Never managed to make a straight guy fool.
I mean, I think there's a lot of, like, people out there who
still feel really trapped in like, social expectations.
And it's really a shame because like, there's a big world.
What would you have to say to people that maybe are in that
scenario that are DL married but are actually gay?
I will say that I think a lot of a lot of folks who are DL view
it as like they have to be this version of themselves that like
everybody else expects them to be.
If you are that version of yourself, you are not yourself
at all. What's your sexuality?
I'm kind of discovering a little bit about my sexuality as like
as I get older, sexuality for me is just so much more fluid than
what I've kind of like been conditioned to think that it
was. So would you say you're a Dom
top or a power bottle? It depends on the day, baby.
How do you feeling? Today I'm feeling Dom top dude.
I'm feeling pretty dommy. So you're douched right now?
I'm douched and dangerous. Baby douched.
And dangerous. Wait, so how do you douche?
Can you tell us? Your process Give me 5 minutes
and a water bottle and like I'll blow your mind, right?
It's crazy. I'll blow your.
I. Like, I'm a little thick.
I'm not going to lie to you, OK? People argue with me online.
Like I'll be like, I really like fat boys and they're like,
they're like, no, you don't. I'm like.
Welcome to the Wild podcast. I'm Brandon Cardoso.
I'm Dijulen Barboza. And I'm Parker.
Reed, we're here at a really special guest today.
You know someone that had a really good conversation with up
the elevator on the way to the room.
Guys, please welcome Hodgkins. That's me, baby.
What's up? What's going on?
Hoskins Correct? Hoskins.
Yes, Sir Hoskins. What a what an interesting last.
Name. Is that your real name?
Yeah, it's it's my, my government name, legal name,
which is crazy. You don't.
Have a stage name. Hell no dude.
It's. Why hell no.
I don't know, I guess I got started in social media, OK.
And then as soon as I realized that I was like, in it, I said
we can't turn back now, Dude, it's all or nothing.
Balls out, bro. There it is.
Yeah, Yeah. Balls in the court?
Is this your first podcast? My first one.
Oh, Congrats. Thanks.
You're not Virginia. And I like what a good podcast
to be the first. Yeah.
I love taking podcast virginity. Podcast.
I love it. Yeah, yeah, I'll always remember
this. But real.
Quick off the top, what's your sexuality?
So I'm I think I'm kind of discovering a little bit about
my sexuality as like as I get older.
So I just turned 28 a few days ago and like, oh, Congrats,
happy. Thank you, dude.
Thank you Did. You get some birthday.
Bro, no birthday Dome, dude, no birthday Dome.
That's crazy. No, actually I've I've filmed
like a collapse since I've been here.
So yeah. So technically I guess I did get
some birthday Dome. OK, yeah, yeah.
But but no, it was cool. As I get older, though, I
realize that, like, sexuality for me is just so much more
fluid than what I've kind of like been conditioned to think
that it was right. Like, you know, I've worked with
trans models, I've worked with men.
I've not worked with any women yet, you know, and and that's
something that I want to try to do this year.
But yeah, I think I think I could have, you know, with a
with a girl and enjoy it. And I would I would say maybe
bisexual is like. So would you say you're a Dom
top or a power bottom? It depends on the day, baby.
It depends on the day, so. Today.
Wait.
What's today's date? January 22nd January.
How are you feeling today? I'm feeling, I'm feeling Dom top
dude. I'm feeling pretty dommy.
Pretty dommy. All right, it's the tank top.
It's the tank top dude. You have to take the guns are
out, baby. You know, pits out.
It's it's good. It's good.
Can you tell us a little bit more about you in case the
viewers don't know who you are, You're a little bit about your
come. Up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. So howdy, I'm Theta Hoskins.
Nice to meet you. It's it's been really cool.
I've been on the social media now for, God, five years, little
over five years. January 2nd, 2021 was my big
video. It was the first one that I
posted that got good traction. What was it was me and I'm OK.
So like back I grew up in Kentucky, Eastern Kentucky.
So like apple ashes and explains the howdy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, real country with it, bro.
Right. And so like back home, it's not
like we kind of wear just like very casual clothes.
I've been called a shirt pantser before.
You ever heard that one? A shirt pantser?
No, I've never heard that. Yeah, it's like somebody who
just, like, wears clothes for like, utilitarian, you know,
like you. Just throw it on.
You throw it on and go baby throw it on and go got it.
So, so you know, I was wearing like my normal clothes, just
like it's like, I mean, it wasn't anything.
It was like jeans, boots, like shit kickers and it was
normally. Slow down, you said cheat
kicker. Shit kickers bro, shit kickers
shit. So like we back home, we usually
have a pair of boots that we wear specifically for like
working. Oh, to kick.
Oh yeah. It's like if you work like on a
farm or something, you would wear shit kickers 'cause you
like you're shoveling much and shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, OK. And shit like that.
OK, sorry that's new to me, I'd never heard.
Of that, no, you're good bro, You're good.
You said what part of Kentucky? Eastern, so like the London
area? All OK, I've been.
I've been to Kentucky before. I've been to Lexington.
Yeah, that's that's where I'm in Lexington like quite a lot, but
it's like an hour and a half drive for.
Me, that's like a college kind of like.
Yeah, basketball. Big basketball, Yeah.
Is it lit in Lexington? Bro it doesn't.
Sleep. I'll be honest with you, there's
not a lot of stuff in Lexington to do.
It is not lit. It's it's dim, bro.
It's dim bro. It's dim, but is there a
college? Yeah, it is.
It's a college town, but it's just like Kentucky culture is
just very different, bro. It's like very relaxed.
Nobody's in a hurry back home. Like everybody's just sort of
doing their thing. There's parties.
I mean, there's like, you know, college parties, but I
definitely experiencing it and then experiencing LA and Vegas
and like some of these crazy party scenes is like it's such a
nine day difference. Yeah, I know.
So when I went to Kentucky for the first time, I went with a
group of friends and it was, I think it was Keeneland.
Keeneland. Keeneland yeah, yeah, The horse.
The horse. Yeah, yes, I went there for the
first time and man, what an experience that is a lot of
energy. And, and like I said too, within
the beginning of this podcast, going up the elevator with you,
man, I just felt the energy like, is that, is it like that
Kentucky energy or like? I appreciate it, bro.
Yeah, I think like I always tell people I kind of get a vibe when
I meet people in, you know, out and about that are from Kentucky
or have like lived there for a while or at any point in their
life. Like, I think it's so funny.
There's just this kind of culture that you adopt in the in
Kentucky. I don't know how to describe it.
Maybe it's just like real sees real, you know what I mean?
But it's cool. Yeah.
We have like a it's this hospitality.
It's like a a warm energy. I love my Kentucky friend, you
know, my friends and family. Like, I really, I got a lot, a
lot of love for Kentucky. Right.
But I guess, well, I want, I do want to know the very beginning
of everything, too. You know, I feel like being
within that area, I feel like, well, like you said, everyone
there is very, like, different, a lot of college, you know,
events going on at least within that area alone.
Yeah. How is it that you even wanted
to be a part of the social media game?
I mean, you said your first big video was 2021.
That's pretty recent. Yeah, yeah.
So back to just finish that thought.
So my my first big video was wearing like my normal clothes,
the shit kickers and all that. And then I did the transition.
This was during the height of the maid dress like hype.
So I did this transition video where I like did this little
dance and I. I put on the Madras.
Yeah, yeah. So I, I switched from like the
my normal, like, you know, country boy clothes to the
Madras. And so it actually initially
blew up. And I mean it had so much hate
dude, like every day I would so like for the first 3-4 days of
it I could refresh my feed. And this was back when stitches
were like way bigger and I would have like 1520 new stitches from
people and it would be like the same boring ass fucking jokes.
There was 1 funny one. Can I tell I gotta tell you.
So this one of the one of my favorite jokes that came out of
it was people would say bro went from shooting doze to banging
Bros. I thought that was pretty funny
dude. I thought that was pretty funny
were. You banging Bros back then?
I was definitely banging Bros, just not on camera.
Not on camera, camera. So when was the first time you
ever banged a bro? Like on camera or in?
Your life. Oh, shit.
I was actually in a relationship for seven years.
Damn. Yeah.
So I was with, I was in a monogamous relationship.
So I I. Never cheated.
Towards the end, things got things got difficult.
It was complicated. He was like my dad.
It's a whole thing. Yeah, it's a whole.
It's like a there's a lot of wait.
He was older than you. Yeah, yeah, he.
Was like your daddy. Yeah.
Wait, was he your first body? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's crazy. So like.
That's interesting. He so I, I met him whenever I
was 18 and he was in his in his 50s.
I think he really, he actually works for me now.
We're we're like best friends. We're we separated in actually
right before my social media like popped off?
Is he in his 60s now? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. But he's, he's like, like
sincerely. He's like my dad.
I think from, from my perspective, I think he, he's
such a caring person and like a caregiver that he really, I
think wanted like an actual son. And like people, a lot of people
out there like don't really realize it, but in the world of
like being a gay man, like you're, it's different.
Like it's really different. And we're, we're conditioned
differently. We're, we're, there's just, it's
different. And so I think his avenue of
like fulfilling that, like fatherly, you know, that need
almost like that paternal need. Like teaching?
Yeah, like, I mean, he's literally saved my life.
Like I tell everyone, like I you can think whatever you want to
think. Like if I, if you think that I
was, you know, preyed up, preyed on, or if he's a predator or
whatever because they're of the age gap, I'm like, that's not
how I experienced it. Like he helped me get my first
job, my first vehicle. You know, we built a whole life
together. And unfortunately, the reason
that we separated was because like, it was too paternal, like
it was so it was such like a it was like he was like my dad.
And so it was such a natural transition for us to be be
friends after. And so he's still in my life.
I still, you know, I still talk to him every day.
And yeah, he's like a big, he's a big part of my life.
Yeah, no, he he was shout out to him.
It seems like he really gave you like that that little leverage,
right. The the bit of leverage with an
experiencing of life. But I'm curious to like 18 years
old. You said you met him.
So what does your parents think? Where were your parents and
within the mix of all this? Yeah.
So that's where it gets a little deeper there.
So the reason that I was, I think so young whenever I
committed to such like a a big life, if you want to, you know,
kind of look at it that way. So my mom was in prison.
She did, she did 8 years total over the span of like two
different sentences. And my dad was like is super
toxic, abusive, like really bad addict.
And and so I was emancipated. You guys know what that means.
So emancipated is like where before you're 18, you can
legally exist as an adult. So essentially I live with my
sister when my mom was in prison, my sister was in a, a
bad relationship with God not to air my family out.
Sorry guys, whoopsie. She was in a really bad
relationship and he the guy forced her to move in with him.
And so it was her and I in this little apartment.
And when she moved out, I just stayed behind and I was, I think
15 going on a 16. You were.
Living with the guys? Still no.
No, no, this was before. This was I was 15 here.
So she so she moved out of our place and I stayed by myself.
So I was like 15 living alone in this apartment and, and so I got
emancipated and I spent like 2 years doing like nothing, like
just literally existing, kicking shit, yeah, going, kicking shit,
going to like my friend's house, 'cause I didn't have food.
And like I didn't have a phone. I didn't have, I had a phone, I
had no service. I had a computer, I didn't have
Wi-Fi. So I would like, I would walk
down to the local McDonald's and like download a bunch of fanfic.
Shout out to my AO3 crowd out there, dude.
The the fanfic readers, smart readers, and.
So you always been a freak? I've always been a freak, bro.
Unfortunately, I was on, I was on like Kik and all that shit
back in the day, dude, bro, I was if you're a parent out there
watching this or like you have like young people in your life,
please, please try to get involved with like their lives
and and make sure that you know what they're doing.
Because I was UN completely like unwatched and I just had no
supervision and I was in places and spaces that I should not
have been on as a kid. And like, don't don't let that
happen to like to the the kids in your life.
Like keep an eye out on please at least tell people that.
Like you can't, you know, But yeah.
So whom you met your partner at the time and then how?
When did your video blow up? So so I met, so we we separated
in October of 2020 and then my video blew up in January 2nd
2021. Got it.
And then what did you? How did your life change?
Would you start doing differently?
Yeah, so I was, I, I've always been a huge, like I wasn't in
sports or anything as a kid. Like again, no super, no
parental supervision. So like, I was a really big
consumer of media. So I, I was a YouTube kid.
Like I I was on all the blogs like Tumblr and everything.
Right, you grew up on social. Media, I grew up on social media
and I knew like as soon as that video took off, like when it
hit, I was like, I've got 5 seconds.
Like you when you, if you ever want to be an influencer or do
social media and you have a video that goes viral or
something, you have to like take it and run with it because that
5 seconds goes quick. And so, yeah, I started
immediately like live streaming every day and, and luckily for
me, I reached an audience of people who I like no shades
anybody else out there. I kind of have the best
audience, I think in the world. Like literally my, my people are
so ride or die. And it's such a diverse group of
people. Like I got, I got the, the, the
plus size audience. Like that's my, that's my
people, dude. There we go.
I've got like, you know, my POC, I've got my, my tea girls, like
my, my trans family. Like I'm really about that, like
diversity. And I think that's what keeps my
life so interesting and so full of joy and like, like getting to
experience different people. So that was the audience that I
cultivated. Wait, how did you gain that
audience? By using my voice, bro, like I,
I, I used my platform to speak out against a lot of the, the
craziness that I was seeing, especially growing up in like a
super small redneck town where like everybody, you know, I
think we had like 3 black kids in our school growing up.
So as you can imagine, like I'm surrounded.
Gay kids. Oh, there's like, yeah.
It's like the same thing. It's like a handful of gay kids
and the ones that were gay, like everybody knew they were gay.
Like, I was one of them. I was super feminine.
Like, I wore makeup to school. I used to like, yeah, yeah,
yeah. I'm so glad I did too, because
it gave me such a deep understanding of like, that
expression of self. And, you know, I did.
I, I personally, as I got older, realized that it wasn't, that
really wasn't my identity, but I'm glad that I experienced it
because I, you know, who knows, like.
How do you feel like you wore that makeup or if you felt like
it wasn't your identity as you got older?
I think a big part of it was I was really mad at masculinity
and I really hated it. I rejected it because a lot of
the people in my life would hurt me consistently.
We're masculine, we're men, right?
It's like men the, the, my male teachers would bully me.
My, you know, the, the boys in school, the football team, the
football players, whatever. Like they were awful to me.
My dad was like a toxic, abusive man.
Like it. My experience with men was so
bad that I think I rejected any sense of masculinity.
And it took me, I honestly, it took me meeting my, my partner,
you know, of, of seven years to like, understand that men can be
good, like masculinity can be a good thing.
And like you can be a masculine man and a good man at the same
time. And so now that's a big part of
my platform is like, you know, I try to, I try to tell people
like you can be masculine, you can be feminine, you can be both
it, you know, whatever you feel like on the day, just lead with
like a good heart. And I think that's like the most
important part about it, you know?
I think within this conversation so far, I well, first of all, I
just want to say thank you so much for sharing.
You know your personal life here.
Thank you for asking bro. No, of course, I think, you
know, not a lot of people can not only admit but would want to
share exactly what it is. You had just, you know, growing
up and, you know, having to be in a situation at such a young
age that you were with within your family then being
emancipated. Yeah.
And then you still having to come on here with like such a
crazy big smile and just a great personality.
Where do you think that comes from?
You think it's more so within like you having to you know,
within the the guy that you said that you were currently the age
of 18, right. The one you really took him
under your your wing. You think he really played a
really big part in your life then?
He definitely played a huge part of my life.
I will not give him credit for my personality, though, because
that man, yeah, he, he, he pushes my butt.
He turns me into like, Patricia, right?
Like I like, he knows exactly how to, like, push my buttons
and the perfect way to piss me off.
But no, I mean, yeah, he, he did like, I think he gave me a lot
of perspective of like what a good man can be.
And so in a lot of ways, I think, yeah, maybe I do have to
give him a little, a little bit of credit at least.
But yeah. Yeah.
Can we get into your transition from TikTok right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tick tock to content.
How did that happen? I always knew, I think like
really at a really early age, like I always had a really big
fascination with like the industry and I think.
Wait, the corn industry? Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.
I think I, I think I always kind of had this sort of like pull,
you know, and I spent the seven years, like I said, I was in a
monogamous relationship and like, you know, we weren't like
super active sexually And and so I weren't no, not almost not at
all, which is another reason that I said like, I think he
really wanted to be a dad. It was his choice.
Like he he just really didn't have interesting.
It's really. Great.
How often would you do? It within the like probably like
5 times within the last four years of it, yeah.
That's like one once a year pretty much.
Yeah, if, if even. And it was like it was just
really complicated. And then you would tell me like,
like, I think, you know, like it's hard for me because I just
look at you like my son. And then I'm like, OK, but is
that kind of hot? And he's like, no, not at all.
Actually, it's I'm very uncomfortable having with you.
And I'm like, OK, like we're, we're going to have to do
something about this because I can't be like in my 20s.
And so a little bit like, so that's why when it when it did
end, like I think we were able to walk past that and, and
recognize it like this sex was gone anyways.
Like the, the love was so much deeper than that.
And like the connection was so much far beyond like just a, a,
A and whatnot, so. Wait, so you said you were into
the interest or you were attracted to the industry,
right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So the, the transition from tik toker into into into the corn
industry. So it really, I knew that I
wanted to make money, OK? I knew that I wanted to make
money on social media and I didn't have the heart to like, I
didn't have the heart to like take advantage of my audience in
a way that like felt, you know, and it's definitely, again, no
shade to anybody, no craters out there that like are getting
their bag, whatever they have to do to get the bag, like do your
thing, like, you know, commit to what you're comfortable
committing to. But I was trying really hard to
find a way to monetize myself without feeling like I was
taking advantage of people that, you know, were working 9:00 to
fives and like had minimum wage jobs.
And and so I spent a while trying to like stream like
twitch streaming. And that was just really taxing
mentally in a way that like it like I would log into twitch and
the people would be like, do dropping jacks like that.
I felt very trapped in this weird little cycle where I
wasn't making money, but I was still being, I felt very
exploited. And so I was like, OK, I'm
posting these thirst traps on it on Twitter and I'm doing these
like thirsty tik toks and people are hyping me up and I feels
good, right? It's like validating.
And then it came to a point where I like, literally had a,
you know. Britney moment.
Love her. I had a Britney moment.
I shaved my head, like shaved my head off.
I like, I literally went to a like a military recruiter and I
signed up to like be tested for the Air Force.
And so I took the, I think it's called the ASFAB.
And like I got my paperwork done and I was like ready to go off
to, to meds, which is like the medical like, you know, they
examine you, whatever. And I was like, OK, before I go
to the military and like, sign my life away.
This is such a real story, by the way.
I was so. I was so ready.
Thoughts in your mind? Dude, I was so ready to go
'cause I do really well under structure, like I do really well
in those environments. So I was like, before I do this,
let me like throw 1 little launch, right?
Let me just and I can just delete and make make a little
money, delete it and then walk away and do the military.
Well I posted my first thing and it.
Was on the blue page. Yes, yeah, yeah.
And, and it did good, OK. It did real good.
And I said, oh. Off the military.
Oh, maybe we don't need this on our life away to the military.
Maybe I should do this instead. And and it's been honestly, like
I I'm I do it for the love of the game, like I'm not, you
know, I don't. It is work and there is like
obviously with any job, like you, you've have your moments.
But I really love what I do. I love the craft of it.
I love like connecting to the audience.
I love meeting people in public and then being like, Oh my God,
like I love this video that you made or like, Oh my God, like
thank you for being representation for, you know,
Kentucky or for whatever. And like, it's that to me is
like so fulfilling, right? And so I'm really glad that
things worked out how they did. And like, I would not change
anything about the way that my career is like, gone, I think.
It's one of the most important things right there is not
wanting to change anything. Like everything weird, smoothly
and perfectly, you know? Yeah.
At least whatever it was that, you know, it being your last
resort, it worked out in your favor too, right?
I mean. Yeah, it did.
It did. It really did.
Like I, it's blessed me the job. Like I tell people, you know,
I'm, I'm not one of those people.
Like I don't take this for granted.
I don't like, I don't spend a lot of money on myself in
general. And, you know, it's giving me
the ability like I've never been a big self spender, but I can
like take care of my family and friends now.
And like I, you know, I can, I can pay for people's dinners
when we go out and I can like treat people to, to, to nice
gifts. I've really, it's really enabled
me to, to have a lifestyle that gives back in a way that I would
never have been able to do if I had like continued, you know,
working my job before I did all this right.
True. How did?
How did you transition then from No so then like studio?
Oh, I don't do studio. Oh, you don't at all.
So how come? Are you at Gay VNS?
So I got invited this year, I think I'm nominated for best
independent creator. So I, I, I'm a big believer that
like you should experience as much as possible.
And, and despite me not really being an industry, like in the
industry, I think having a proximity to a lot of the people
who work in the industry and especially, you know, as we've,
we've seen studios be so successful and launch so many
like individual careers, people who have did studio work and do
independent work on their, you know, on their own time, like
it's really cool. And I think getting in this
space and getting to like meet some of the other side because
I've never seen the production, I've never seen like, you know,
the, the, the, the creators, the studios, like I've never seen
it. So it's really cool.
And I was like, really adamant. I was like, I really want to
experience this and, and whoever I need to like talk to, to, to
be able to show up and help out and, you know, and lend a hand
or whatever I can do right. It was really like an honour.
So I was, I'm very lucky in that regard, you know.
No for sure. Did you ever do studio work?
I think so, yeah, I think so. I think I've I've spent, I'm a
big believer, like do do everything once, try everything
once. I think it'd have to be like the
right studio though. Like I want, if it's, if I ever
do studio work, like I want it to be like I want it to be
something cool, dude. I don't want to just do like a,
you know, a normal scene. I want it to be something kind
of lit, you know, crazy scene. Yeah, yeah, something, something
wild. I'm a big like, I like
creativity in the industry. I think we get caught up in a
lot of cycles. Like we do a lot of the same
things and it's it's the default, it's the formula.
It works. But anytime someone approaches
me and is like, hey, I have this idea, this different thing.
Like I've worked with so many like creative people over the
last like 2 years, two or three years and like getting to see
how many cool things you can do. Yeah, I'm like, no, you got to,
we got to step our cookies up a little bit.
We got to keep them guessing, dude.
Just, you know, keep them guessing.
Yeah, I, you know, I, I, I do learn a lot within the well,
when it comes to studio work a lot where like I never knew how
much of A creative control that's most of the creators do
have. I always thought that was more
so like a role that you just assigned to, but the role's
already been there. Is it more so like if you had
your own control, like creative control over it, you wouldn't be
opposed of doing? Yeah, I, I mean, the good thing
about I used I'm, I am a kind of a control freak in general.
Like I've really did a lot of like inner work, shadow work,
all that BS where I'm like trying to let go of that feeling
of needing control and everything.
But I think more than the control aspect of it, like I
could, I would be happy to give up control, but I need like, it
has to be a good concept. It has to be a good, it has to
be something that like, if I'm going to be a part of it, I want
to like walk away and feel really proud to have been a part
of it because I want to always be putting like my best, my best
foot forward. It's like that's important to
me. And I think that's what will
hopefully give me a, a longevity in this industry is like never
cutting corners and like, you know, taking the easy way out.
Like if I have to work a little bit and I'll work a little bit,
you know, you gotta, you gotta do a little something, something
crazy. Right, but something in your
favor, of course. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure,
for sure. What a Well going back to the
the blue page. Now when it comes to the
content, what is it mainly of content that you post on there?
Is it just the you solo? I mean you do you say you do
collabs. You did a collabs.
Actually you did a collabs. Yeah, I did a collabs are.
You douche right now. I'm douched and dangerous baby
douche. Wait so how do you douche?
Can you tell us your? Process.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm actually getting better at it.
Also my my friend Jory, she gave me that.
I can't take credit for that one.
Doucheed and dangerous. She's so funny, so.
Wait, she taught you how to douche?
No, she taught. Taught him how to be dangerous.
She teaches, that's it. Yeah.
She see how to be dangerous. So, so yeah, so I I'm not like I
said, for seven years I was in a monogamous relationship.
I barely had sex. So like, it's crazy going into
this industry where like there's so many pros.
I mean, these people are like, some of them are like 5 give me
5 minutes and a water bottle and like, I'll blow your mind,
right? It's crazy.
He's 10 inches. Yo DM me bro, DM me bro, DM me
bro. Because he's also a virgin too,
and he's packing 10. He's a virgin.
Yo, that's crazy. Hey, that's that's sick, though.
What? What do you?
I just I'm waiting for the right
person. You have to, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would encourage anybody that's like.
And I haven't I feel like it's also I haven't collab on my blue
page. So it's like just wait for the
right person. I.
Call you got to you got to find the right person and honestly,
like I tell everybody you know, just like such an is sexuality
in general is such a individual journey like you have to.
Like, well, you said you had, you've done it with men and
trans girls. So so trans men, so female to
male trans men. I've.
Are you going to do it with girls?
I would love to, I really want to work with a girl this year.
I want to work with whether whether trans girl, you know,
CIS girl, whatever. I I want to work with with some
girls. And I think that's like healthy
like I think you. I would tell straight men to do
the same thing. Like if you've never.
I know that's crazy. But how, how did you go about
doing it with the trans men? Like how did that happen?
Yeah. So one of my best actually, I
would say like 1 of my best friends.
No away babes. He's so funny.
He's like literally speaks in riddles.
I love him so much. He reached out to me really
early on when I started doing collabs and he was like, hey,
like if we, if you would be down to film, I'd love to.
And at this point, I'd never, you know, I'd never even seen
like a in person, right? And it was really fascinating
because I had no idea what I was doing, but he was super helpful
and like, he helped me kind of like he guided me around and
like showed me how to like, not make things weird.
So so it was a good experience. It was a great experience, super
good. And then since, since Noah, I
filmed with I think two other trans men and both all of my
experiences have been like really good.
But yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm hopefully I'll, I'll work with
with some more women this year. I'm I'm excited.
The new year, you know, what a what a great way to start.
Yeah, absolutely. Something new, dude.
Something new? Well, then I'm just curious more
so within now, these 8 collabs you did so far, I mean like,
well, what's the craziest out of these 8 collabs that you've
done? What do I actually know?
Could you list down all the eights that you did?
Yeah. So I think that by far, Raheem,
I I worked the Raheem. Yeah.
So you bought them? I did Yo, I did, but.
You're smiling ear to ear. Not too much, not too much.
Let's not blow this man's ego up any bigger than it is.
No, he, Raheem is genuinely like one of the coolest people that
I've ever met in the industry. He is.
So I, I actually texted him last night and I was like, something
somewhere like sent you in my life to so that I could see like
how a man like you walks around this industry and like he has
just this air about him that's so confident and so lovely and
mature and respectful. And he just the best person.
And, and so I, I actually got here at midnight on the 12th and
he was like, OK, let me, let me fly you to LA for the day.
I turn around the next morning, got on a plane, flew to LA, took
it and then flew back that same night.
And that was by far one of the most, like, taxing experiences
that I've had just because of like, flying the day before
getting here, trying to get ready.
My, my hotel didn't have water. By the way, Palms, you owe me a
night's stay. We got beef, me and the Palms.
But yeah, I had no running water.
So, like, I landed, I couldn't shower.
I couldn't douche. Like, I couldn't do anything.
And I was stressed out, bro. So how'd you do it?
Well, the next morning I woke up at like 6:30, so, like, I went
to bed at like 130, woke up at 6:30, got ready, got prepped,
flew to to LA got there. We filmed.
We knocked it out. It was amazing.
He was so gentle and so courteous.
Such a gentleman. Such a gentleman.
And. And let me tell you, it was big.
Yeah, so ringing was great. I got to work with Christian
Wilde. He was so sweet, such a cool
guy. And then who else is like been
like a crazy Jacobi. Jacobi Did you know Jacobi The.
One with the crown. The one with the crown.
OK, OK. You see the crown?
Yeah. You know, it's going down, baby.
Yeah, yeah. He's so cool, so funny.
But yeah, I've. Everyone I've worked with out
here has been. They've just been so perfect.
Wait, did he put the crown on your head?
He did crown me. Yeah, is it posted?
I don't think he's posted it yet.
I think he's gonna wait until we get everything like launched.
But he he did crown me and that was a great experience meeting
people in the industry is really cool.
Like you kind of start feeling isolated in this industry.
You, you kind of feel like you're the only person in the
world that exists because back home, nobody does this, You
know, nobody, nobody does any of this.
So it's like getting to meet your coworkers.
It's like going to, you know, it's like going into office and
seeing people that you work with.
It's like very it makes you feel normal.
Yeah, it's true. You know, you just be around
yourself with or you just surround yourself with people
who do the same thing that you do, you know, I mean.
Like it's just basically what it is people that, that improve
you, my friend Davey WAVY. If you guys shout out to Davey
WAVY Frog Meadow, it's like a they'll know.
He, he's, he's awesome though. But he, he told me last night he
was like, you know, surround yourself with people who lift
you up. And that's like what I'm really
intentional about this this year is like people who lift me up
only if you bring me down, get out of my life.
Like I I have no time for it anymore.
Yeah, I think, I think like I was telling you earlier too,
before the the cameras were turned on, I was telling you I
was like, yeah, you know, who you surround yourself with is
really who you become. And luckily for us, you know, we
surround ourselves with each other.
So, you know, I feel like that's a really important thing.
You know, whatever you wanna do in life, whoever you're, whoever
you surround yourself with is a, you know, a really big factor in
what it is you're gonna become. It's double you, dude.
That's sick. That's crazy.
That's good. And yeah, and you guys, I mean,
you're, you're, you're young, you're beautiful.
Like, thank you. You're you're literally living
the dream. Like you're successful, that
that shit's crazy. Like you genuinely should be so
proud of what you guys have accomplished and like the, the
networking that you've done and the just the success you've had
is it's amazing. So genuinely hats off to you
guys for for what you're doing. It's it's awesome.
It's really cool. Thank you man, way thanks.
We appreciate that. You know the acknowledgement.
Thank you very much. I mean man, you said you're 28
and you look young too bro. I would never guess but even
with the stash on bro, like you look young.
Take it with pride. I'm 20.
I'm about to be 26 in like 2 months Dang.
Bro yeah, dude, you're doing better than me, bro.
You got you got that glow, do you guys?
Everyone's, everyone's laughing in this room. 26.
But I'm like the oldest. One.
So you're young bro. I know man.
Yeah, yeah, young status. I mean like honestly at this
point it's like 30s is the new 20s. 30s is the new 20s is he
real? I like that I.
Mean especially, you know, lifespan going up, you know, 30s
is the new 20s. 30s is the new 20s dude.
I will say the hottest, I think the hottest people I've ever met
in my life have been in their 30s hands down.
Like consistently top five hottest people in their 30s.
Hey, dude. What's your type?
We're not there yet or you said. I got you bro.
I got you. I got you.
Wait, what's your type? My type, Oh man, I'm a I'm a
pretty diverse guy. I'm a I'm a big energy guy too.
I know that's like so cliche but.
No energy physically. Physically, I like, I'm a little
thick. I'm not going to lie to you.
I people argue with me online, like they'll literally gaslight
me in my own comments. I'll be like, I'll be like, hey,
I really like fat boys. And they're like, they're like,
no, you don't. I'm like they think they're
being. Performative.
What's that? They think it's performative?
Yeah. And and like, you know, I
understand. I I will say this, like the plus
size community does get like they kind of get shitted on like
pretty bad, you know, do. You know Santana I.
Worked with Santana? Yeah, I just worked with
Santana. You shout, you shout, you collab
with him. Yeah, dude, no one is a
sweetheart, bro. I did a top.
Yeah, we, I topped them. It was great.
I do love Santana, but I I like, I like the guys I like.
I like dads. I'm a big, I'm a big.
I'm a big dad guy, daddy guy. So like hairy old, like Gray
hair big. Like what does that dad mean?
Yeah, I think like, OK, I want you to close your eyes, OK,
Everybody close your eyes. close them, close your eyes.
OK, You're you're at you're at the grocery store, OK, You're at
the grocery store. You see, there's a man at the
he's in the he's in the, the meat, the meat aisle.
He's looking. He's trying to find some food to
grill. OK.
Are we? Are you all with me?
Understood. He's about to throw down on the
grill. OK.
He's wearing cargo shorts. He's wearing those Skechers.
You know the ones? Yeah.
He's got like a button down short sleeve.
K. You with me?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see him.
He turns around. He looks you dead in the eyes.
That's. Is that is that?
Is that his beeper? That's his yeah, bro.
That's his beeper, bro. He he looks at you, he's got a
mustache. He's got, you know, hairy arms,
hairy forearms on a dad. Oh, my God, bro.
Oh, my God. Yeah.
That's it. That's it.
That's the that's the vision. You just wreck it Ralph.
I would, let me tell you this right now.
I would let Wreck it Ralph punch me in the face so hard that my
head popped off my body. That's.
And I would let him. Never mind.
Let him wreck you. Yeah, Let him wreck me, dude.
I let him wreck me. Oh, yeah, Yeah.
Wreck it. Ralph is so hot.
You know who my goat is though. This is like goated.
Like if I could one cartoon character Stan Smith from
American Dad. Bro I'm I for that man.
Dude really so dead ass. He's doing that wears like the
suit, the main. Character The main character Bro
Stan Smith is like dude, I would be I would bottom for that man.
Oh my God bro. I never really thought.
About what's appealing about Stan Smith.
Dude, it's just something about his he's like a little gay.
I love a little gay dad like, you know, he's like he's like
the father phase, like the perfect father figure, like he
hates his family but loves them, you know, need he's got like
that, that masculine energy, But he he definitely has
experimented in college. You know, that's Canon for sure.
It's just something about him, dude.
It's something about his energy that he brings to the function,
the vibe I need. Decided to settle down.
I need him bad. I just want to touch more so on
the the daddy topic one more time.
So could I OK, So what I visualize you're still there.
I know, I know, but I literally I.
Know the same guy? But real quick, real quick,
'cause I was visualizing cargo shorts, you know, buttoned up
and, and what came to my head. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm just going to say the name if you're not familiar.
I also got a photo all right, But what I visualized was a a
hairy daddy, and it was, are you familiar with Cole Connor?
No. OK, so this is what came to my
mind and I'm going to show you this photo and you let me know
he's a close friend of ours. Let me know what you think of
his daddy, right? Here 10 out of 10 Smash I need.
I want him to cosplay as Stan Smith and then I want him to.
This is a good hey. This is a good Stan Smith.
He's a great Stan Smith. Put him in a zoo.
If he wants to do a couple's Halloween costume, hit me up.
I think he's here, right? Now, yeah, I think.
He's actually here right now. I'll be Roger.
OK. Is that alien?
Yes, the alien, bro. Alien.
Yeah, yeah, that's the alien, bro.
No, he's he's so hot, bro. That's crazy.
He gives like a nice like gym sesh workout, you know like he
just is all around. And I don't think he is here.
I would be like in shambles if I saw him at the gym.
I'd be like shake. I'd be like trying to do like,
like, you know, lifting be like quaking.
That that that's just what is what came to my head when you
were started describing that. Was it because we can, we can
move on. I just wanted.
So like you're, you're really into dads and all that, right?
Yeah. So like, do you have any sugar
daddies? Be honest with us now come on,
that's. Good, That's good.
That's good. You know what's really funny is
that so I've never, I've never had the closest thing I ever had
was this guy that would send me like $20 on Cash App.
This is before I even did social media, which is crazy, but he
was like $20 on Cash App and and it was like just randomly and
that was the closest thing. But I always tell people like, I
don't think I could have a sugar daddy.
I'm way too like nice. I think I would like end up
paying him. I'd be, he'd be like, you know,
paying him. Yeah bro, I'd be like so.
You'll be a sugar daddy. Dude, I literally I, I think I
like, you know, situationally, right, like we go out to dinner
or something, I'd be like, oh, that's fine, I'll get it.
And it's it's all good. Like I'll pay.
You don't have to pay for it. I'll take care of it and like
that type of shit, dude, I just can't like I can't take
advantage of you. I feel like the weirdest thing
about it. Got it.
And not that, you know, you can have a healthy relationship with
a sugar daddy. Like they want something, they
give you something in return. Like it's do your thing, you
know, get your bag, sister. But for me, like I think if I
ever like did escorting or anything like that I it would
genuinely ruin my life. So you think that people who do
go and take the sugar daddy route, you, you, you consider
those people like taking advantage or is it more so like,
because I think initially when you go about having a sugar
daddy, I'm pretty sure the sugar daddy initiates it first, no?
Yeah, no, no, no, for sure, for sure.
And that please, definitely like don't let me misquote myself
there because I, I have a lot of friends who like, do I have like
sugar daddies and stuff. And I don't think that it's
like, I don't have much. I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, I don't think that it's like taking advantage of.
I think that there's a give and there's a take.
And I think the problem is it's a me problem.
I don't know how to take. Like I, I will give and give and
give people like he's the sugar daddy.
Like literally like I, I, I just have a really hard time
accepting things from people. And like, you know, if it's like
a genuine gift or like someone like, hey, let me cover your
meal or let me cover this like, yeah, you can accept it.
But like the the idea of me like, like finding someone with
the sole purpose of like let me utilize this person for their
money. It's just really hard for me to
like. Yeah, and I think you said it
earlier, like when you were doing social media that you
couldn't, you didn't want to take people's money.
Yeah, like it's just, it's just something about like, and
that's, again, I cannot express this enough.
No shade to people out there have sugar daddies because I've
got a lot of friends that do and like, get your, like get your
bag sister. But it's just for me, I have AI
and I understand it and I just think that it's like just
something that I, I don't think that I could do and also like to
having conversations. That's another reason that I
respect you guys so much is like, I think we live in a world
where everything's so taboo and everything's so like off limits.
And it's so crazy because you can't use like words on TikTok
now. Like you have to blur your blur.
You have to, to bleep yourself while talking to get words out.
And it's like, bro, it's just words.
We're human beings, we're animals, We have, we have
fetishes, we have kings. Like, why is it so crazy for us
to acknowledge it and talk about it?
And so, like, one of the reasons that I respect this so much is
because it's like putting, I don't know, it's like giving a
voice out there to some, you know, some important things that
people are afraid to talk about, of course.
Yeah, man, thank you. You know, and you know, I guess
within that being said, you know, I just feel like that's
exactly what we're here to do. You know, in the very beginning,
like I told you, you know, just Bros being Bros.
And then I just had came to this because even in the very
beginning, when it was just us, before we had started to
introduce guests, we were just, you know, goofy guys just being
Bros, you know what I mean? Just hanging out with the
homies. And we would just really say
whatever it is that we really wanted, you know?
And that's really where it stems from.
And then and then. Yeah, so.
Have you ever gone with a straight guy?
Like in real life. Yeah, no, no, straight guy
never, never managed to make a straight guy fold.
But I don't. Again, I don't.
So I don't do like a lot. Of off camera no kids so it's.
A kit well, The thing is like any, any situation where you're
going to be with a straight guy, you're going to like there's no
it's not going to be just a kiss because they're not going to be
at the bars, you know, you're not like.
I see they're. Not going to be at the club,
like if you're with a straight guy, you're with a straight guy,
you got like 10 minutes, you got to get that shit going.
But no, I don't know. I, I think it's, it's a shame
though. I think a lot of a lot of
straight men and with families, like my heart goes out to them.
I mean, I think there's a lot of, like, people out there who
still feel really trapped in like, social expectations.
And it's really a shame because like, there's a big world like,
you know? So like what?
What would you have to say to people that maybe are in that
scenario that are DL married but are actually gay?
I will say that I think a lot of a lot of folks who are DL view
it as like they have to be. They have to be this version of
themselves that like everybody else expects them to be and
society expects them to be and like their family expects them
to be. And at the end of the day, if
you are that version of yourself, you are not yourself
at all, at all. And you will never know yourself
until you like, let that shit go.
And honestly, dude, like you're just wasting your life.
I mean, I hate to say it that way.
Like, it's not a waste. You're going to have your
family. You're going to have like people
that you love and care about. But like, do they really know
you? Like do they know the real you
or are you just like sneaking around using dating apps?
Like trying to find 10 minutes so that you can go hook up with
some like random person in the most dangerous way like.
Just just. Come to terms with it, come out
like it's it's 2026. When did you come out?
I've always been out. Yeah, remember he was wearing
makeup in high. School technically though, my my
real big outing story. I was 13 and I told my school
counselor. I knew that I was I knew that I
was gay like my whole life, but I, I told my counselor, she was
the first adult. I told her, but I was like, you
can't tell my mom like she's super, super religious.
My mom was out of prison at this point and I was like, I was
like, she's super religious. Like she'll kick me out.
Like I don't know. She's like, no, you're good,
you're good. So I told her I was bisexual.
Well, I get home from school, I'm feeling great, dude.
I'm like feeling like on top of the world.
I'm like, I finally told an adult like I feel good.
I get home, my mom's making spaghetti.
I walk and I'm like, I'm about to have spaghetti, bro.
This is the best day ever, bro. She's like staying in the
kitchen. She's she.
I can just tell by her body language that she, like, knew
something was up. She just turns around and she
looks at me and she's like, get your stuff and get in the car.
We're going to church. So she takes me to church.
Really. Yeah, Brother Jeff, hope you rot
in hell. He's the pastor of our of our
church back home. And he, yeah, he like sits me
down and talks to me about how I'm an abomination for like 45
minutes and how I'm going to like, you know, I'm destroying
my mom's life and I'm, you know, I'm hurting my family and all
these things. And then he like starts fucking
putting like holy oil on me and speaking in tongues and doing
the whole 9 yards. And I just remember walking out
of there and being like, I will, I told my mom I was like, I will
never forgive you for this. And I have since then.
We're she's like, we're really close now.
But yeah, that was like my, that was my coming out experience.
And then ever since then I've been like, it can't get any
worse. Right.
She already knew. And yeah.
Damn man. I mean, I just.
What about the counsellor? That's pretty.
Active. I don't know.
I'm assuming she like. Did you ever see or speak to?
Her never went back to her office no after that because she
was like the school counsellor. So I was like, I was like, well,
I'm never going to trust her again.
Like actually, I'm pretty sure really shortly after that,
because it would have it happened on a Friday.
So it was the weekend after that.
And I'm pretty sure really shortly after that, I told my
mom that I either I'm doing home schooling or it's going to get
real bad. And she, she, I guess she just
didn't care enough. Like at that point she was like
defeated with it all and she let me do it.
OK, now does she get to see this version of yourself?
How does she truly feel about you right now?
Bro she loves me so much. Dude, I actually had a video go
really do really well recently where she raided my collabs.
So like I showed her the guys that I clubbed with and she like
rated them on a Skype from 1:00 to 10:00.
And it got a lot of attention from people that are like, you
know, maybe you know, this is too woke for me.
But I'm like, dude, my mom, like my mom is a real one, bro.
She went to prison for eight years.
You think she's fazed by the fact that I do porn?
No, dude, like she's, she's such a, she's such a, a good mom now.
Like I, I'm really happy that she was able to overcome like
her addiction and everything to, to be there for me now, like
versus, you know, if I would have never gotten to experience
that relationship with her. There we go.
I think that's the most important part.
Yeah, dude, I love. Your family support.
Love your family bro. Like if they love you, love them
back. Like it's family is such A and
whether it's your chosen family, biological family, whatever.
Like if you have a family, dude, you, you have more than you have
more than you need. Like that's really everything
bro. True that.
Well said. Absolutely, dude, absolutely.
Damn man over here preaching and all man look at you man doing
hey. Hey, somebody's got to, bro,
somebody's got to. No, it's true, man.
It's true. I want to get more so within
like the financial part of your life a little bit.
You know, when you started making real money.
Yeah. It was like one of the craziest
things you bought yourself. I know you said you don't really
buy things for yourself, right? You said you don't necessarily
spend money like that from what you said earlier, but you you
never spoiled yourself with just like something you know.
I've gotten a lot better over the years, like, you know,
spending on myself because it's, it is something that like
growing up really poor, you don't have money to spend
whether you want to or not. I think the biggest thing that
I've kind of splurged on myself with is probably like my
cosmetic sort of like routine, like my face, skin care and
stuff. I had a really bad cystic acting
growing up. I'll shoot you guys a picture of
it later. It's crazy.
I like the craziest cystic acne, bad scarring.
So I had a, a surgery done. It was like a CO2 laser like
resurfacing thing that was like one of my biggest first
purchases. And they like basically lasered
off like an entire layer of skin and like helps with with
scarring and everything. And I've done a few things like
I had my lower back, like a skin tightening thing because I've
had like, you know, really bad, like stretch Marks and things
like that. Just little things that I think
are like make me feel more confident in my skin.
You know, that's been my biggest splurge.
I would say that's like the one thing that I will, I will spend
money on because it a, it's my career, but also like it makes
me feel better. It makes me feel good about
myself, you know, and like, I can feel like the work that I'm
doing is being enhanced, you know?
So that's my, that's my splurge. I'm not a big brands guy.
I don't buy like a lot of clothes and stuff for myself.
Got it. Yeah.
I mean, hey, you know, you got to invest yourself some way
somehow, You know, I think the skin care is doing you well,
man. I mean, 28, you know, I mean,
you're looking good. Like I said earlier, I think
we're all looking young at this age.
So fucking man, it's got to take care of yourself.
That's all it is. I love skin care bro.
Yeah, man, you got to maintain and take care and that's it.
I just put, I just put just face moisturizer on my face every
morning just to kind of wake me up more, but I don't do anything
else but that. I bet, I bet you're one of those
like Dove soap guys. You just put Dove soap on and
go. I.
The most beautiful skins usually are I.
Don't wash my face. Of course you don't.
You're like in a you're like in
a gas station bathroom, like splashing, like the little pink
soap that they give you. Yeah.
And you're like, perfect. And then your skin's just
gorgeous. Yeah.
I'm. Just Oh well, I appreciate the.
Compliment. No, it's crazy.
That's literally how it is though.
Like I feel like the people who do like, the least have the most
beautiful skin. Yeah.
Interesting. I mean, I guess so, yeah.
But I mean, for you, how do you grow?
How long does it take for you to grow stash like that though?
Bro not too much on the stash bro now this is like my people
it's still growing in dude my family isn't I don't have like
good mustache genetics. So this is this is like months.
This is like months growing in. Really.
Yeah, okay, yeah, I just, it's a, it's a cute look.
As I get older, I'm like, you know, I gotta ditch the twink.
The twink look at some point. Got it.
Yeah. I mean, someones gotta, someones
gotta do it, you know? I mean, I mean you trying to
grow bearder? You ditching your twink look?
Bro unfortunately I can man. I mean the facial hair just
wasn't for me. I just think the facial hair
really. I did laser like on my face.
I did laser procedures to get rid of.
All you're so you have such a beautiful face structure.
You thank you. You wear your bare skin so well.
Thank you. Definitely, definitely see why
you you went with that. Yeah.
Yeah, I, I, yeah. I mean, from what you see now,
it was not like that when I before the laser.
It was like very, it was pretty bad, more so because even if I
were to go about taking care of it, it was a lot of like
ingrowns, a lot of pimples, especially from like the razor
burns. It was it was a really bad
cycle. I was going through with that
and and yeah, I just really wanted to kind of get away from
all that. So I just.
Yeah, you did a procedure that makes you feel like more
comfortable in your skin. That's like, it's exactly, I
preach it. I'm a big, I'm a big advocate
for that. I think anybody that that has
anything done, whether it's like lip filler or whatever, or laser
hair removal, do whatever you want to do to make yourself feel
better in your skin. Yeah, it's it's just like a less
of a process, like having to shave every like three.
Well, for me it was every two days.
Damn, bro. Yeah, like I I would like grow a
big one. It was crazy.
If you guys could get any one procedure, what would you get
BBL. I would get, you know, bimax.
No. What's that?
Double jaw surgery. Wait, really?
What is that? Double jaw surgery so I'm not
sure. So his jaw would be lower and
out more so he can have a nice big jaw in.
And the upper jaw. Everything.
Double jaw surgery. The implants.
Like Stan Smith. Like Stan Smith?
Yeah, Stan Smith. Yeah, I see.
I'll get the Stan Stan Smith effect.
DM me, I got you. Yeah, we'll get this.
We'll. Get the surgery scheduled
tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, it's 50K.
I got 50K. I'll make sure to.
Reach out, Brent. What would Brent?
Yeah, what about? You guys, I kind of already got
the one that I wanted. I don't know what else I would
do. Probably laser on my back.
I mean, other than that, probably the same thing but
somewhere else. But other than that, I feel like
I did what needed to be done and I don't know you.
Said somewhere else where? Oh, my back like laser on my
back question. I want to ask you, you know, I
think right now from this conversation here, you're doing
very well for yourself and I'm really glad to see that you
know, you're doing very well, doing what you love.
You got supportive people behind you.
Where is take going to be in the next five years or at least
where do you plan to be in the next five years?
Yeah, dude, honestly that's a great question.
I'm a big five year plan guy. I actually have a podcast studio
back home that I'm putting together, OK.
And so this is like really cool getting to see like the
professionals do it first. I really want to start a podcast
and and similar vein. I want to talk about a lot of
the things that I think a lot of people are afraid to.
So that's that's on my roster for this year.
I want to write a book. I know it's cliche, but like
that's cool. I think we talked a little bit
about masculinity and I think as a gay man, you do kind of get
conditioned to reject masculinity for a lot of these
reasons. And I think in the book, I want
to talk about, you know, my relationship with masculinity
and how it's not something that's exclusively for straight
people. And, you know, and, and so a
book, a podcast and yeah, dude, I want to travel more.
I've, I've, I've only gone to 1 country other than this in
England and I want to see the world a little bit.
So yeah, five years from now maybe I'll be like, I'll be
kicking it in some other country and doing some crazy stuff,
yeah. Five years is a long time.
Hopefully I get to come back on
in five years. Hell yeah.
And and we can catch. Up or maybe in five years your
podcast is we go in yours. Yeah.
Hey you. Know.
Y'all come on my podcast whenever I get it set up.
That would be awesome. It would be so such an honor.
It would be like, hey. Do you have a name for it?
I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, you're not gonna leak it. Damn, like should I do it?
Is this you want? Is this the official?
I mean, look, however you want to kick start the podcast?
Yeah, a little soft launch, you know.
All right, you ready for this? Let's hear it.
The the podcast is called Everybody Sucks, OK, And it's
about how everybody has a relationship with intimacy.
And whether you're like a mom of five kids or you're like raised
on the streets, you were in, you know, Christian private school,
you're going to have a relationship.
And I think having more people like talk about it, just normal
people talk about it is like so fascinating to me.
So it'll be fun. I'm excited.
I get to, I get to see like some cool stories.
Fire. When do you plan on launching
it? 2026, baby.
We're getting it hopefully by by spring, hopefully I'll be
shooting the first for the first episode.
So yeah, I got to get, I got to get everything going.
On You still live in Kentucky. I do, yeah.
Yeah, I'm going to. It's cool going back there.
It's a small town. Not a lot's happening.
So when I come out to places like this, everything feels a
lot bigger and and more grand, so it makes everything special.
I mean, with the meeting of Raheem, I can imagine everything
felt bigger. Everything feels bigger, like 12
inches bigger. Yeah, it's crazy.
There we go, Tame. Hey man, thank you so much for
coming on the podcast tape. Really appreciate it, man.
It's for real. This is this is a really, really
good episode with you, man. I love the conversations we've
had here. You guys honestly are the
sweetest. This is so cool.
I really do. I'm glad that this was my
podcast Virginity I they couldn't have been a better one.
Honestly, it couldn't have. You guys are great and I'm glad
I got to see you. So hey.
Anytime man, just you know, let us know whenever you want to see
it again. Yeah, yeah, I'll, I'll just
Venmo you guys what, like 20 bucks each and then we'll.
We'll reveal the. Yeah, tip me on my.
Stream, I got you. I got you.
Tip on the stream. Tip on the stream.
Yeah, yeah. There you go.
But if they want to find you, where can they find you?
Follow the journey. So if you Google Tate Hoskins, I
should pop up my Twitter and Instagram is real, REAL Tate
Hoskins, my first and last name, government legal name, you know.
And yeah, you can, you can find me on there and follow me and
keep up with me and see all the crazy bullshit that I get into.
It's fun. Check out to you guys.
Come on now, check. Them out if you guys want to
find me you can go to wild things dot VIP slash Julian for
all my links go ahead and message me.
And mine is wild things dot VIP slash Brandon for all my socials
and the link. So the baby, come on now.
And for all my links you could go to theparkerreed.com and you
can send me a message there. If you guys want to see the
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will be linked down below. Super super good insightful
episode. You definitely want to say this
one. You definitely want to say this
one Uncensored, Yeah. The next time, we'll see you
guys later. Peace, Peace.