1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,760 Never managed to make a straight guy fool. 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,680 I mean, I think there's a lot of, like, people out there who 3 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,680 still feel really trapped in like, social expectations. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,160 And it's really a shame because like, there's a big world. 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,400 What would you have to say to people that maybe are in that 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,200 scenario that are DL married but are actually gay? 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,720 I will say that I think a lot of a lot of folks who are DL view 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,240 it as like they have to be this version of themselves that like 9 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:23,880 everybody else expects them to be. 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,440 If you are that version of yourself, you are not yourself 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,600 at all. What's your sexuality? 12 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,720 I'm kind of discovering a little bit about my sexuality as like 13 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,280 as I get older, sexuality for me is just so much more fluid than 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,280 what I've kind of like been conditioned to think that it 15 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,120 was. So would you say you're a Dom 16 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,680 top or a power bottle? It depends on the day, baby. 17 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,480 How do you feeling? Today I'm feeling Dom top dude. 18 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:47,600 I'm feeling pretty dommy. So you're douched right now? 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,320 I'm douched and dangerous. Baby douched. 20 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,720 And dangerous. Wait, so how do you douche? 21 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,760 Can you tell us? Your process Give me 5 minutes 22 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,160 and a water bottle and like I'll blow your mind, right? 23 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,200 It's crazy. I'll blow your. 24 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,400 I. Like, I'm a little thick. 25 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,480 I'm not going to lie to you, OK? People argue with me online. 26 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,239 Like I'll be like, I really like fat boys and they're like, 27 00:01:05,239 --> 00:01:06,400 they're like, no, you don't. I'm like. 28 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,520 Welcome to the Wild podcast. I'm Brandon Cardoso. 29 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,440 I'm Dijulen Barboza. And I'm Parker. 30 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,760 Reed, we're here at a really special guest today. 31 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,240 You know someone that had a really good conversation with up 32 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,520 the elevator on the way to the room. 33 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,800 Guys, please welcome Hodgkins. That's me, baby. 34 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,160 What's up? What's going on? 35 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,640 Hoskins Correct? Hoskins. 36 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,600 Yes, Sir Hoskins. What a what an interesting last. 37 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,600 Name. Is that your real name? 38 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,640 Yeah, it's it's my, my government name, legal name, 39 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:36,920 which is crazy. You don't. 40 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:38,960 Have a stage name. Hell no dude. 41 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,200 It's. Why hell no. 42 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,880 I don't know, I guess I got started in social media, OK. 43 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,240 And then as soon as I realized that I was like, in it, I said 44 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,520 we can't turn back now, Dude, it's all or nothing. 45 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,080 Balls out, bro. There it is. 46 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,200 Yeah, Yeah. Balls in the court? 47 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,880 Is this your first podcast? My first one. 48 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,320 Oh, Congrats. Thanks. 49 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,480 You're not Virginia. And I like what a good podcast 50 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,800 to be the first. Yeah. 51 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,720 I love taking podcast virginity. Podcast. 52 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,800 I love it. Yeah, yeah, I'll always remember 53 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:05,680 this. But real. 54 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,240 Quick off the top, what's your sexuality? 55 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,760 So I'm I think I'm kind of discovering a little bit about 56 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,120 my sexuality as like as I get older. 57 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,680 So I just turned 28 a few days ago and like, oh, Congrats, 58 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,560 happy. Thank you, dude. 59 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,200 Thank you Did. You get some birthday. 60 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,680 Bro, no birthday Dome, dude, no birthday Dome. 61 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,880 That's crazy. No, actually I've I've filmed 62 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,520 like a collapse since I've been here. 63 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,120 So yeah. So technically I guess I did get 64 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,800 some birthday Dome. OK, yeah, yeah. 65 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,680 But but no, it was cool. As I get older, though, I 66 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,280 realize that, like, sexuality for me is just so much more 67 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,920 fluid than what I've kind of like been conditioned to think 68 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:45,640 that it was right. Like, you know, I've worked with 69 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,880 trans models, I've worked with men. 70 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,400 I've not worked with any women yet, you know, and and that's 71 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,960 something that I want to try to do this year. 72 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,560 But yeah, I think I think I could have, you know, with a 73 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:59,400 with a girl and enjoy it. And I would I would say maybe 74 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,760 bisexual is like. So would you say you're a Dom 75 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,800 top or a power bottom? It depends on the day, baby. 76 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,280 It depends on the day, so. Today. 77 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,040 Today. Wait. 78 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,240 What's today's date? January 22nd January. 79 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,360 How are you feeling today? I'm feeling, I'm feeling Dom top 80 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:14,760 dude. I'm feeling pretty dommy. 81 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,520 Pretty dommy. All right, it's the tank top. 82 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,640 It's the tank top dude. You have to take the guns are 83 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:21,480 out, baby. You know, pits out. 84 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:22,840 It's it's good. It's good. 85 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,520 Can you tell us a little bit more about you in case the 86 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,560 viewers don't know who you are, You're a little bit about your 87 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:27,880 come. Up. 88 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. So howdy, I'm Theta Hoskins. 89 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,040 Nice to meet you. It's it's been really cool. 90 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,000 I've been on the social media now for, God, five years, little 91 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,760 over five years. January 2nd, 2021 was my big 92 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,040 video. It was the first one that I 93 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,480 posted that got good traction. What was it was me and I'm OK. 94 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,040 So like back I grew up in Kentucky, Eastern Kentucky. 95 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,560 So like apple ashes and explains the howdy. 96 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, real country with it, bro. 97 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,720 Right. And so like back home, it's not 98 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,000 like we kind of wear just like very casual clothes. 99 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,040 I've been called a shirt pantser before. 100 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,920 You ever heard that one? A shirt pantser? 101 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,600 No, I've never heard that. Yeah, it's like somebody who 102 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,320 just, like, wears clothes for like, utilitarian, you know, 103 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,840 like you. Just throw it on. 104 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,720 You throw it on and go baby throw it on and go got it. 105 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,839 So, so you know, I was wearing like my normal clothes, just 106 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,800 like it's like, I mean, it wasn't anything. 107 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,600 It was like jeans, boots, like shit kickers and it was 108 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,600 normally. Slow down, you said cheat 109 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,760 kicker. Shit kickers bro, shit kickers 110 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,040 shit. So like we back home, we usually 111 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,840 have a pair of boots that we wear specifically for like 112 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:36,960 working. Oh, to kick. 113 00:04:37,280 --> 00:04:38,600 Oh yeah. It's like if you work like on a 114 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,400 farm or something, you would wear shit kickers 'cause you 115 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,120 like you're shoveling much and shit. 116 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, OK. And shit like that. 117 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,520 OK, sorry that's new to me, I'd never heard. 118 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,000 Of that, no, you're good bro, You're good. 119 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,160 You said what part of Kentucky? Eastern, so like the London 120 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,640 area? All OK, I've been. 121 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,440 I've been to Kentucky before. I've been to Lexington. 122 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,080 Yeah, that's that's where I'm in Lexington like quite a lot, but 123 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,120 it's like an hour and a half drive for. 124 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,800 Me, that's like a college kind of like. 125 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,440 Yeah, basketball. Big basketball, Yeah. 126 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,160 Is it lit in Lexington? Bro it doesn't. 127 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,560 Sleep. I'll be honest with you, there's 128 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,520 not a lot of stuff in Lexington to do. 129 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,000 It is not lit. It's it's dim, bro. 130 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,800 It's dim bro. It's dim, but is there a 131 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,240 college? Yeah, it is. 132 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,600 It's a college town, but it's just like Kentucky culture is 133 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,880 just very different, bro. It's like very relaxed. 134 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,880 Nobody's in a hurry back home. Like everybody's just sort of 135 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,320 doing their thing. There's parties. 136 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,120 I mean, there's like, you know, college parties, but I 137 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,280 definitely experiencing it and then experiencing LA and Vegas 138 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:35,120 and like some of these crazy party scenes is like it's such a 139 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:36,560 nine day difference. Yeah, I know. 140 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,080 So when I went to Kentucky for the first time, I went with a 141 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,760 group of friends and it was, I think it was Keeneland. 142 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,440 Keeneland. Keeneland yeah, yeah, The horse. 143 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,080 The horse. Yeah, yes, I went there for the 144 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,240 first time and man, what an experience that is a lot of 145 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,480 energy. And, and like I said too, within 146 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,360 the beginning of this podcast, going up the elevator with you, 147 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,160 man, I just felt the energy like, is that, is it like that 148 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,360 Kentucky energy or like? I appreciate it, bro. 149 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,760 Yeah, I think like I always tell people I kind of get a vibe when 150 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,480 I meet people in, you know, out and about that are from Kentucky 151 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,400 or have like lived there for a while or at any point in their 152 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,160 life. Like, I think it's so funny. 153 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,600 There's just this kind of culture that you adopt in the in 154 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Kentucky. I don't know how to describe it. 155 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,520 Maybe it's just like real sees real, you know what I mean? 156 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:18,720 But it's cool. Yeah. 157 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,440 We have like a it's this hospitality. 158 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,960 It's like a a warm energy. I love my Kentucky friend, you 159 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,240 know, my friends and family. Like, I really, I got a lot, a 160 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,040 lot of love for Kentucky. Right. 161 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,000 But I guess, well, I want, I do want to know the very beginning 162 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,320 of everything, too. You know, I feel like being 163 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,840 within that area, I feel like, well, like you said, everyone 164 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:39,760 there is very, like, different, a lot of college, you know, 165 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,680 events going on at least within that area alone. 166 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,000 Yeah. How is it that you even wanted 167 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,520 to be a part of the social media game? 168 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,560 I mean, you said your first big video was 2021. 169 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,080 That's pretty recent. Yeah, yeah. 170 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,080 So back to just finish that thought. 171 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,040 So my my first big video was wearing like my normal clothes, 172 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,600 the shit kickers and all that. And then I did the transition. 173 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,360 This was during the height of the maid dress like hype. 174 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,280 So I did this transition video where I like did this little 175 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:06,960 dance and I. I put on the Madras. 176 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,520 Yeah, yeah. So I, I switched from like the 177 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,960 my normal, like, you know, country boy clothes to the 178 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,160 Madras. And so it actually initially 179 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,440 blew up. And I mean it had so much hate 180 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,640 dude, like every day I would so like for the first 3-4 days of 181 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,280 it I could refresh my feed. And this was back when stitches 182 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,520 were like way bigger and I would have like 1520 new stitches from 183 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,480 people and it would be like the same boring ass fucking jokes. 184 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,120 There was 1 funny one. Can I tell I gotta tell you. 185 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,920 So this one of the one of my favorite jokes that came out of 186 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,240 it was people would say bro went from shooting doze to banging 187 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,200 Bros. I thought that was pretty funny 188 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,280 dude. I thought that was pretty funny 189 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,600 were. You banging Bros back then? 190 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,280 I was definitely banging Bros, just not on camera. 191 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,560 Not on camera, camera. So when was the first time you 192 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,680 ever banged a bro? Like on camera or in? 193 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,160 Your life. Oh, shit. 194 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,360 I was actually in a relationship for seven years. 195 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,240 Damn. Yeah. 196 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,520 So I was with, I was in a monogamous relationship. 197 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,160 So I I. Never cheated. 198 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,840 Towards the end, things got things got difficult. 199 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,560 It was complicated. He was like my dad. 200 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,640 It's a whole thing. Yeah, it's a whole. 201 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:13,720 It's like a there's a lot of wait. 202 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,680 He was older than you. Yeah, yeah, he. 203 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Was like your daddy. Yeah. 204 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,320 Wait, was he your first body? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 205 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,440 It's crazy. So like. 206 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,440 That's interesting. He so I, I met him whenever I 207 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,960 was 18 and he was in his in his 50s. 208 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,720 I think he really, he actually works for me now. 209 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,760 We're we're like best friends. We're we separated in actually 210 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:38,159 right before my social media like popped off? 211 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:39,480 Is he in his 60s now? Yeah. 212 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,120 Yeah, yeah. But he's, he's like, like 213 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,559 sincerely. He's like my dad. 214 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,400 I think from, from my perspective, I think he, he's 215 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,600 such a caring person and like a caregiver that he really, I 216 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:56,120 think wanted like an actual son. And like people, a lot of people 217 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,680 out there like don't really realize it, but in the world of 218 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:02,400 like being a gay man, like you're, it's different. 219 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,080 Like it's really different. And we're, we're conditioned 220 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,640 differently. We're, we're, there's just, it's 221 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,280 different. And so I think his avenue of 222 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,800 like fulfilling that, like fatherly, you know, that need 223 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,720 almost like that paternal need. Like teaching? 224 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,840 Yeah, like, I mean, he's literally saved my life. 225 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,400 Like I tell everyone, like I you can think whatever you want to 226 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,840 think. Like if I, if you think that I 227 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,640 was, you know, preyed up, preyed on, or if he's a predator or 228 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,640 whatever because they're of the age gap, I'm like, that's not 229 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,080 how I experienced it. Like he helped me get my first 230 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,840 job, my first vehicle. You know, we built a whole life 231 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,560 together. And unfortunately, the reason 232 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:42,000 that we separated was because like, it was too paternal, like 233 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,080 it was so it was such like a it was like he was like my dad. 234 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,560 And so it was such a natural transition for us to be be 235 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:50,080 friends after. And so he's still in my life. 236 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,720 I still, you know, I still talk to him every day. 237 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,360 And yeah, he's like a big, he's a big part of my life. 238 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,160 Yeah, no, he he was shout out to him. 239 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,440 It seems like he really gave you like that that little leverage, 240 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,720 right. The the bit of leverage with an 241 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,560 experiencing of life. But I'm curious to like 18 years 242 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:03,560 old. You said you met him. 243 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:05,840 So what does your parents think? Where were your parents and 244 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,400 within the mix of all this? Yeah. 245 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,200 So that's where it gets a little deeper there. 246 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,640 So the reason that I was, I think so young whenever I 247 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,880 committed to such like a a big life, if you want to, you know, 248 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,720 kind of look at it that way. So my mom was in prison. 249 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,040 She did, she did 8 years total over the span of like two 250 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,120 different sentences. And my dad was like is super 251 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,320 toxic, abusive, like really bad addict. 252 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,920 And and so I was emancipated. You guys know what that means. 253 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,800 So emancipated is like where before you're 18, you can 254 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,280 legally exist as an adult. So essentially I live with my 255 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,560 sister when my mom was in prison, my sister was in a, a 256 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:47,640 bad relationship with God not to air my family out. 257 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,000 Sorry guys, whoopsie. She was in a really bad 258 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,760 relationship and he the guy forced her to move in with him. 259 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,480 And so it was her and I in this little apartment. 260 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,480 And when she moved out, I just stayed behind and I was, I think 261 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,680 15 going on a 16. You were. 262 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:03,840 Living with the guys? Still no. 263 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,360 No, no, this was before. This was I was 15 here. 264 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,920 So she so she moved out of our place and I stayed by myself. 265 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,920 So I was like 15 living alone in this apartment and, and so I got 266 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,680 emancipated and I spent like 2 years doing like nothing, like 267 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:23,240 just literally existing, kicking shit, yeah, going, kicking shit, 268 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,920 going to like my friend's house, 'cause I didn't have food. 269 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,120 And like I didn't have a phone. I didn't have, I had a phone, I 270 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,920 had no service. I had a computer, I didn't have 271 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,120 Wi-Fi. So I would like, I would walk 272 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,880 down to the local McDonald's and like download a bunch of fanfic. 273 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,480 Shout out to my AO3 crowd out there, dude. 274 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,480 The the fanfic readers, smart readers, and. 275 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,440 So you always been a freak? I've always been a freak, bro. 276 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,640 Unfortunately, I was on, I was on like Kik and all that shit 277 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,000 back in the day, dude, bro, I was if you're a parent out there 278 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,160 watching this or like you have like young people in your life, 279 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:59,360 please, please try to get involved with like their lives 280 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,520 and and make sure that you know what they're doing. 281 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:07,240 Because I was UN completely like unwatched and I just had no 282 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,800 supervision and I was in places and spaces that I should not 283 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,920 have been on as a kid. And like, don't don't let that 284 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,000 happen to like to the the kids in your life. 285 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,120 Like keep an eye out on please at least tell people that. 286 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,240 Like you can't, you know, But yeah. 287 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:28,920 So whom you met your partner at the time and then how? 288 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,600 When did your video blow up? So so I met, so we we separated 289 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,960 in October of 2020 and then my video blew up in January 2nd 290 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,480 2021. Got it. 291 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,680 And then what did you? How did your life change? 292 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:42,800 Would you start doing differently? 293 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,880 Yeah, so I was, I, I've always been a huge, like I wasn't in 294 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,520 sports or anything as a kid. Like again, no super, no 295 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,400 parental supervision. So like, I was a really big 296 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,320 consumer of media. So I, I was a YouTube kid. 297 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,360 Like I I was on all the blogs like Tumblr and everything. 298 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,480 Right, you grew up on social. Media, I grew up on social media 299 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,240 and I knew like as soon as that video took off, like when it 300 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,160 hit, I was like, I've got 5 seconds. 301 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,360 Like you when you, if you ever want to be an influencer or do 302 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,840 social media and you have a video that goes viral or 303 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,720 something, you have to like take it and run with it because that 304 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,320 5 seconds goes quick. And so, yeah, I started 305 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,480 immediately like live streaming every day and, and luckily for 306 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:29,120 me, I reached an audience of people who I like no shades 307 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,400 anybody else out there. I kind of have the best 308 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,600 audience, I think in the world. Like literally my, my people are 309 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,360 so ride or die. And it's such a diverse group of 310 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,040 people. Like I got, I got the, the, the 311 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,720 plus size audience. Like that's my, that's my 312 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,080 people, dude. There we go. 313 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,400 I've got like, you know, my POC, I've got my, my tea girls, like 314 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,280 my, my trans family. Like I'm really about that, like 315 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,640 diversity. And I think that's what keeps my 316 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:59,160 life so interesting and so full of joy and like, like getting to 317 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,800 experience different people. So that was the audience that I 318 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,000 cultivated. Wait, how did you gain that 319 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,120 audience? By using my voice, bro, like I, 320 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:12,040 I, I used my platform to speak out against a lot of the, the 321 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,640 craziness that I was seeing, especially growing up in like a 322 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,880 super small redneck town where like everybody, you know, I 323 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,880 think we had like 3 black kids in our school growing up. 324 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,080 So as you can imagine, like I'm surrounded. 325 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,840 Gay kids. Oh, there's like, yeah. 326 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,960 It's like the same thing. It's like a handful of gay kids 327 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,640 and the ones that were gay, like everybody knew they were gay. 328 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,360 Like, I was one of them. I was super feminine. 329 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,960 Like, I wore makeup to school. I used to like, yeah, yeah, 330 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,600 yeah. I'm so glad I did too, because 331 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,520 it gave me such a deep understanding of like, that 332 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,640 expression of self. And, you know, I did. 333 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,760 I, I personally, as I got older, realized that it wasn't, that 334 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,920 really wasn't my identity, but I'm glad that I experienced it 335 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,760 because I, you know, who knows, like. 336 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,800 How do you feel like you wore that makeup or if you felt like 337 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,800 it wasn't your identity as you got older? 338 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,520 I think a big part of it was I was really mad at masculinity 339 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,000 and I really hated it. I rejected it because a lot of 340 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,720 the people in my life would hurt me consistently. 341 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,880 We're masculine, we're men, right? 342 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,640 It's like men the, the, my male teachers would bully me. 343 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,120 My, you know, the, the boys in school, the football team, the 344 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,080 football players, whatever. Like they were awful to me. 345 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,640 My dad was like a toxic, abusive man. 346 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,040 Like it. My experience with men was so 347 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,400 bad that I think I rejected any sense of masculinity. 348 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,000 And it took me, I honestly, it took me meeting my, my partner, 349 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,280 you know, of, of seven years to like, understand that men can be 350 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,720 good, like masculinity can be a good thing. 351 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,280 And like you can be a masculine man and a good man at the same 352 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,160 time. And so now that's a big part of 353 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,680 my platform is like, you know, I try to, I try to tell people 354 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,800 like you can be masculine, you can be feminine, you can be both 355 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,280 it, you know, whatever you feel like on the day, just lead with 356 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,520 like a good heart. And I think that's like the most 357 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,720 important part about it, you know? 358 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,800 I think within this conversation so far, I well, first of all, I 359 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,480 just want to say thank you so much for sharing. 360 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,720 You know your personal life here. 361 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,120 Thank you for asking bro. No, of course, I think, you 362 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,840 know, not a lot of people can not only admit but would want to 363 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,520 share exactly what it is. You had just, you know, growing 364 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,040 up and, you know, having to be in a situation at such a young 365 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,120 age that you were with within your family then being 366 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,280 emancipated. Yeah. 367 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,200 And then you still having to come on here with like such a 368 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,480 crazy big smile and just a great personality. 369 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,840 Where do you think that comes from? 370 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,360 You think it's more so within like you having to you know, 371 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,200 within the the guy that you said that you were currently the age 372 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,960 of 18, right. The one you really took him 373 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,760 under your your wing. You think he really played a 374 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:37,800 really big part in your life then? 375 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,360 He definitely played a huge part of my life. 376 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,360 I will not give him credit for my personality, though, because 377 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,040 that man, yeah, he, he, he pushes my butt. 378 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,360 He turns me into like, Patricia, right? 379 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,040 Like I like, he knows exactly how to, like, push my buttons 380 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,680 and the perfect way to piss me off. 381 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,240 But no, I mean, yeah, he, he did like, I think he gave me a lot 382 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,320 of perspective of like what a good man can be. 383 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,600 And so in a lot of ways, I think, yeah, maybe I do have to 384 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,319 give him a little, a little bit of credit at least. 385 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:05,160 But yeah. Yeah. 386 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,640 Can we get into your transition from TikTok right? 387 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tick tock to content. 388 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,280 How did that happen? I always knew, I think like 389 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,520 really at a really early age, like I always had a really big 390 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,640 fascination with like the industry and I think. 391 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,079 Wait, the corn industry? Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. 392 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:27,560 I think I, I think I always kind of had this sort of like pull, 393 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,200 you know, and I spent the seven years, like I said, I was in a 394 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,920 monogamous relationship and like, you know, we weren't like 395 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:39,440 super active sexually And and so I weren't no, not almost not at 396 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,080 all, which is another reason that I said like, I think he 397 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,760 really wanted to be a dad. It was his choice. 398 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,680 Like he he just really didn't have interesting. 399 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:46,600 It's really. Great. 400 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,600 How often would you do? It within the like probably like 401 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,800 5 times within the last four years of it, yeah. 402 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,760 That's like one once a year pretty much. 403 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,360 Yeah, if, if even. And it was like it was just 404 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:01,200 really complicated. And then you would tell me like, 405 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,440 like, I think, you know, like it's hard for me because I just 406 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,000 look at you like my son. And then I'm like, OK, but is 407 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,400 that kind of hot? And he's like, no, not at all. 408 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,000 Actually, it's I'm very uncomfortable having with you. 409 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,960 And I'm like, OK, like we're, we're going to have to do 410 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,040 something about this because I can't be like in my 20s. 411 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,920 And so a little bit like, so that's why when it when it did 412 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,360 end, like I think we were able to walk past that and, and 413 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:29,160 recognize it like this sex was gone anyways. 414 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,640 Like the, the love was so much deeper than that. 415 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,960 And like the connection was so much far beyond like just a, a, 416 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:40,520 A and whatnot, so. Wait, so you said you were into 417 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,600 the interest or you were attracted to the industry, 418 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:44,840 right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 419 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,960 So the, the transition from tik toker into into into the corn 420 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,720 industry. So it really, I knew that I 421 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,400 wanted to make money, OK? I knew that I wanted to make 422 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:03,120 money on social media and I didn't have the heart to like, I 423 00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:06,200 didn't have the heart to like take advantage of my audience in 424 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,120 a way that like felt, you know, and it's definitely, again, no 425 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:12,640 shade to anybody, no craters out there that like are getting 426 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,800 their bag, whatever they have to do to get the bag, like do your 427 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,320 thing, like, you know, commit to what you're comfortable 428 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,960 committing to. But I was trying really hard to 429 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,960 find a way to monetize myself without feeling like I was 430 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,680 taking advantage of people that, you know, were working 9:00 to 431 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,240 fives and like had minimum wage jobs. 432 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,160 And and so I spent a while trying to like stream like 433 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,200 twitch streaming. And that was just really taxing 434 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,480 mentally in a way that like it like I would log into twitch and 435 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,120 the people would be like, do dropping jacks like that. 436 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:48,120 I felt very trapped in this weird little cycle where I 437 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:50,600 wasn't making money, but I was still being, I felt very 438 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,240 exploited. And so I was like, OK, I'm 439 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,640 posting these thirst traps on it on Twitter and I'm doing these 440 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,240 like thirsty tik toks and people are hyping me up and I feels 441 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:00,680 good, right? It's like validating. 442 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,320 And then it came to a point where I like, literally had a, 443 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,480 you know. Britney moment. 444 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,760 Love her. I had a Britney moment. 445 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,760 I shaved my head, like shaved my head off. 446 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,200 I like, I literally went to a like a military recruiter and I 447 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,400 signed up to like be tested for the Air Force. 448 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,920 And so I took the, I think it's called the ASFAB. 449 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,240 And like I got my paperwork done and I was like ready to go off 450 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,840 to, to meds, which is like the medical like, you know, they 451 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,320 examine you, whatever. And I was like, OK, before I go 452 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,600 to the military and like, sign my life away. 453 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,200 This is such a real story, by the way. 454 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,960 I was so. I was so ready. 455 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,240 Thoughts in your mind? Dude, I was so ready to go 456 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,560 'cause I do really well under structure, like I do really well 457 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,120 in those environments. So I was like, before I do this, 458 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,400 let me like throw 1 little launch, right? 459 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,320 Let me just and I can just delete and make make a little 460 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,800 money, delete it and then walk away and do the military. 461 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,000 Well I posted my first thing and it. 462 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,240 Was on the blue page. Yes, yeah, yeah. 463 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,080 And, and it did good, OK. It did real good. 464 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,160 And I said, oh. Off the military. 465 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,840 Oh, maybe we don't need this on our life away to the military. 466 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,800 Maybe I should do this instead. And and it's been honestly, like 467 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,600 I I'm I do it for the love of the game, like I'm not, you 468 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,560 know, I don't. It is work and there is like 469 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,280 obviously with any job, like you, you've have your moments. 470 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,480 But I really love what I do. I love the craft of it. 471 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,160 I love like connecting to the audience. 472 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,840 I love meeting people in public and then being like, Oh my God, 473 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,560 like I love this video that you made or like, Oh my God, like 474 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,040 thank you for being representation for, you know, 475 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,600 Kentucky or for whatever. And like, it's that to me is 476 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,240 like so fulfilling, right? And so I'm really glad that 477 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,640 things worked out how they did. And like, I would not change 478 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,720 anything about the way that my career is like, gone, I think. 479 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,600 It's one of the most important things right there is not 480 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,840 wanting to change anything. Like everything weird, smoothly 481 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:53,880 and perfectly, you know? Yeah. 482 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,400 At least whatever it was that, you know, it being your last 483 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,960 resort, it worked out in your favor too, right? 484 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,360 I mean. Yeah, it did. 485 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:00,280 It did. It really did. 486 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,160 Like I, it's blessed me the job. Like I tell people, you know, 487 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,560 I'm, I'm not one of those people. 488 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:05,880 Like I don't take this for granted. 489 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,720 I don't like, I don't spend a lot of money on myself in 490 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,160 general. And, you know, it's giving me 491 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,600 the ability like I've never been a big self spender, but I can 492 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,440 like take care of my family and friends now. 493 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,040 And like I, you know, I can, I can pay for people's dinners 494 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,120 when we go out and I can like treat people to, to, to nice 495 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:25,320 gifts. I've really, it's really enabled 496 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,760 me to, to have a lifestyle that gives back in a way that I would 497 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,400 never have been able to do if I had like continued, you know, 498 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,240 working my job before I did all this right. 499 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,440 True. How did? 500 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,760 How did you transition then from No so then like studio? 501 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,000 Oh, I don't do studio. Oh, you don't at all. 502 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,680 So how come? Are you at Gay VNS? 503 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:49,680 So I got invited this year, I think I'm nominated for best 504 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,200 independent creator. So I, I, I'm a big believer that 505 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,360 like you should experience as much as possible. 506 00:22:56,360 --> 00:23:00,120 And, and despite me not really being an industry, like in the 507 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:03,880 industry, I think having a proximity to a lot of the people 508 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,520 who work in the industry and especially, you know, as we've, 509 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,400 we've seen studios be so successful and launch so many 510 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,480 like individual careers, people who have did studio work and do 511 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,240 independent work on their, you know, on their own time, like 512 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,280 it's really cool. And I think getting in this 513 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,000 space and getting to like meet some of the other side because 514 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,880 I've never seen the production, I've never seen like, you know, 515 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,120 the, the, the, the creators, the studios, like I've never seen 516 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:30,680 it. So it's really cool. 517 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,720 And I was like, really adamant. I was like, I really want to 518 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,360 experience this and, and whoever I need to like talk to, to, to 519 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,440 be able to show up and help out and, you know, and lend a hand 520 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,080 or whatever I can do right. It was really like an honour. 521 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,480 So I was, I'm very lucky in that regard, you know. 522 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,560 No for sure. Did you ever do studio work? 523 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,040 I think so, yeah, I think so. I think I've I've spent, I'm a 524 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,360 big believer, like do do everything once, try everything 525 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,200 once. I think it'd have to be like the 526 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,160 right studio though. Like I want, if it's, if I ever 527 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,960 do studio work, like I want it to be like I want it to be 528 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,080 something cool, dude. I don't want to just do like a, 529 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,240 you know, a normal scene. I want it to be something kind 530 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,920 of lit, you know, crazy scene. Yeah, yeah, something, something 531 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,680 wild. I'm a big like, I like 532 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,000 creativity in the industry. I think we get caught up in a 533 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,600 lot of cycles. Like we do a lot of the same 534 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,680 things and it's it's the default, it's the formula. 535 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,840 It works. But anytime someone approaches 536 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,320 me and is like, hey, I have this idea, this different thing. 537 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,720 Like I've worked with so many like creative people over the 538 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,040 last like 2 years, two or three years and like getting to see 539 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,120 how many cool things you can do. Yeah, I'm like, no, you got to, 540 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,920 we got to step our cookies up a little bit. 541 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,440 We got to keep them guessing, dude. 542 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,400 Just, you know, keep them guessing. 543 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,440 Yeah, I, you know, I, I, I do learn a lot within the well, 544 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,560 when it comes to studio work a lot where like I never knew how 545 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,520 much of A creative control that's most of the creators do 546 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,880 have. I always thought that was more 547 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,280 so like a role that you just assigned to, but the role's 548 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,120 already been there. Is it more so like if you had 549 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:58,360 your own control, like creative control over it, you wouldn't be 550 00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:02,800 opposed of doing? Yeah, I, I mean, the good thing 551 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,560 about I used I'm, I am a kind of a control freak in general. 552 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,400 Like I've really did a lot of like inner work, shadow work, 553 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,680 all that BS where I'm like trying to let go of that feeling 554 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,920 of needing control and everything. 555 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,960 But I think more than the control aspect of it, like I 556 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,520 could, I would be happy to give up control, but I need like, it 557 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,040 has to be a good concept. It has to be a good, it has to 558 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,000 be something that like, if I'm going to be a part of it, I want 559 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,280 to like walk away and feel really proud to have been a part 560 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,280 of it because I want to always be putting like my best, my best 561 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,800 foot forward. It's like that's important to 562 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,560 me. And I think that's what will 563 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,640 hopefully give me a, a longevity in this industry is like never 564 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,160 cutting corners and like, you know, taking the easy way out. 565 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,640 Like if I have to work a little bit and I'll work a little bit, 566 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,320 you know, you gotta, you gotta do a little something, something 567 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,960 crazy. Right, but something in your 568 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,040 favor, of course. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, 569 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,440 for sure. What a Well going back to the 570 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,760 the blue page. Now when it comes to the 571 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,840 content, what is it mainly of content that you post on there? 572 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,040 Is it just the you solo? I mean you do you say you do 573 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,080 collabs. You did a collabs. 574 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,920 Actually you did a collabs. Yeah, I did a collabs are. 575 00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:06,000 You douche right now. I'm douched and dangerous baby 576 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,680 douche. Wait so how do you douche? 577 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,080 Can you tell us your? Process. 578 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm actually getting better at it. 579 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,560 Also my my friend Jory, she gave me that. 580 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,720 I can't take credit for that one. 581 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,040 Doucheed and dangerous. She's so funny, so. 582 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,400 Wait, she taught you how to douche? 583 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:24,360 No, she taught. Taught him how to be dangerous. 584 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:25,800 She teaches, that's it. Yeah. 585 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,600 She see how to be dangerous. So, so yeah, so I I'm not like I 586 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,720 said, for seven years I was in a monogamous relationship. 587 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,360 I barely had sex. So like, it's crazy going into 588 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,280 this industry where like there's so many pros. 589 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,680 I mean, these people are like, some of them are like 5 give me 590 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,360 5 minutes and a water bottle and like, I'll blow your mind, 591 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:44,240 right? It's crazy. 592 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,080 He's 10 inches. Yo DM me bro, DM me bro, DM me 593 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,480 bro. Because he's also a virgin too, 594 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:51,760 and he's packing 10. He's a virgin. 595 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,800 Yo, that's crazy. Hey, that's that's sick, though. 596 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,480 What? What do you? 597 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,720 What do you? I just I'm waiting for the right 598 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,320 person. You have to, yeah, yeah, yeah. 599 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,920 I would encourage anybody that's like. 600 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,800 And I haven't I feel like it's also I haven't collab on my blue 601 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,360 page. So it's like just wait for the 602 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:05,880 right person. I. 603 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,800 Call you got to you got to find the right person and honestly, 604 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,160 like I tell everybody you know, just like such an is sexuality 605 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,480 in general is such a individual journey like you have to. 606 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,360 Like, well, you said you had, you've done it with men and 607 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:23,480 trans girls. So so trans men, so female to 608 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:24,320 male trans men. I've. 609 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,800 Are you going to do it with girls? 610 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,120 I would love to, I really want to work with a girl this year. 611 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:31,520 I want to work with whether whether trans girl, you know, 612 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,320 CIS girl, whatever. I I want to work with with some 613 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,080 girls. And I think that's like healthy 614 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,840 like I think you. I would tell straight men to do 615 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,440 the same thing. Like if you've never. 616 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,760 I know that's crazy. But how, how did you go about 617 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,520 doing it with the trans men? Like how did that happen? 618 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,680 Yeah. So one of my best actually, I 619 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,000 would say like 1 of my best friends. 620 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:52,800 No away babes. He's so funny. 621 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,800 He's like literally speaks in riddles. 622 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,480 I love him so much. He reached out to me really 623 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,400 early on when I started doing collabs and he was like, hey, 624 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,760 like if we, if you would be down to film, I'd love to. 625 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,160 And at this point, I'd never, you know, I'd never even seen 626 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:12,680 like a in person, right? And it was really fascinating 627 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,880 because I had no idea what I was doing, but he was super helpful 628 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,080 and like, he helped me kind of like he guided me around and 629 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,720 like showed me how to like, not make things weird. 630 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,920 So so it was a good experience. It was a great experience, super 631 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,360 good. And then since, since Noah, I 632 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:33,440 filmed with I think two other trans men and both all of my 633 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,680 experiences have been like really good. 634 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,960 But yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm hopefully I'll, I'll work with 635 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,080 with some more women this year. I'm I'm excited. 636 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,880 The new year, you know, what a what a great way to start. 637 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,840 Yeah, absolutely. Something new, dude. 638 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,920 Something new? Well, then I'm just curious more 639 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,920 so within now, these 8 collabs you did so far, I mean like, 640 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,640 well, what's the craziest out of these 8 collabs that you've 641 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,360 done? What do I actually know? 642 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,400 Could you list down all the eights that you did? 643 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,520 Yeah. So I think that by far, Raheem, 644 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,520 I I worked the Raheem. Yeah. 645 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,800 So you bought them? I did Yo, I did, but. 646 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,360 You're smiling ear to ear. Not too much, not too much. 647 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,640 Let's not blow this man's ego up any bigger than it is. 648 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,600 No, he, Raheem is genuinely like one of the coolest people that 649 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,400 I've ever met in the industry. He is. 650 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,840 So I, I actually texted him last night and I was like, something 651 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,560 somewhere like sent you in my life to so that I could see like 652 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,400 how a man like you walks around this industry and like he has 653 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,240 just this air about him that's so confident and so lovely and 654 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,720 mature and respectful. And he just the best person. 655 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,880 And, and so I, I actually got here at midnight on the 12th and 656 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,560 he was like, OK, let me, let me fly you to LA for the day. 657 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,840 I turn around the next morning, got on a plane, flew to LA, took 658 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,480 it and then flew back that same night. 659 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:59,400 And that was by far one of the most, like, taxing experiences 660 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,200 that I've had just because of like, flying the day before 661 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,600 getting here, trying to get ready. 662 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,480 My, my hotel didn't have water. By the way, Palms, you owe me a 663 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,880 night's stay. We got beef, me and the Palms. 664 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,360 But yeah, I had no running water. 665 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,120 So, like, I landed, I couldn't shower. 666 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,160 I couldn't douche. Like, I couldn't do anything. 667 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,040 And I was stressed out, bro. So how'd you do it? 668 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,000 Well, the next morning I woke up at like 6:30, so, like, I went 669 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,280 to bed at like 130, woke up at 6:30, got ready, got prepped, 670 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,960 flew to to LA got there. We filmed. 671 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,680 We knocked it out. It was amazing. 672 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,360 He was so gentle and so courteous. 673 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,600 Such a gentleman. Such a gentleman. 674 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,960 And. And let me tell you, it was big. 675 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,160 Yeah, so ringing was great. I got to work with Christian 676 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,400 Wilde. He was so sweet, such a cool 677 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,640 guy. And then who else is like been 678 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,520 like a crazy Jacobi. Jacobi Did you know Jacobi The. 679 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,240 One with the crown. The one with the crown. 680 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,880 OK, OK. You see the crown? 681 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,320 Yeah. You know, it's going down, baby. 682 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,720 Yeah, yeah. He's so cool, so funny. 683 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,400 But yeah, I've. Everyone I've worked with out 684 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,000 here has been. They've just been so perfect. 685 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,320 Wait, did he put the crown on your head? 686 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,840 He did crown me. Yeah, is it posted? 687 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,440 I don't think he's posted it yet. 688 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,400 I think he's gonna wait until we get everything like launched. 689 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,120 But he he did crown me and that was a great experience meeting 690 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,280 people in the industry is really cool. 691 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,160 Like you kind of start feeling isolated in this industry. 692 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,920 You, you kind of feel like you're the only person in the 693 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,240 world that exists because back home, nobody does this, You 694 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,400 know, nobody, nobody does any of this. 695 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,200 So it's like getting to meet your coworkers. 696 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,360 It's like going to, you know, it's like going into office and 697 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,440 seeing people that you work with. 698 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,320 It's like very it makes you feel normal. 699 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,000 Yeah, it's true. You know, you just be around 700 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,760 yourself with or you just surround yourself with people 701 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,360 who do the same thing that you do, you know, I mean. 702 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,680 Like it's just basically what it is people that, that improve 703 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,840 you, my friend Davey WAVY. If you guys shout out to Davey 704 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,400 WAVY Frog Meadow, it's like a they'll know. 705 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,480 He, he's, he's awesome though. But he, he told me last night he 706 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,080 was like, you know, surround yourself with people who lift 707 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,200 you up. And that's like what I'm really 708 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,920 intentional about this this year is like people who lift me up 709 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,080 only if you bring me down, get out of my life. 710 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,800 Like I I have no time for it anymore. 711 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,960 Yeah, I think, I think like I was telling you earlier too, 712 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,800 before the the cameras were turned on, I was telling you I 713 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,120 was like, yeah, you know, who you surround yourself with is 714 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,240 really who you become. And luckily for us, you know, we 715 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,160 surround ourselves with each other. 716 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,240 So, you know, I feel like that's a really important thing. 717 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,320 You know, whatever you wanna do in life, whoever you're, whoever 718 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,840 you surround yourself with is a, you know, a really big factor in 719 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,800 what it is you're gonna become. It's double you, dude. 720 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,000 That's sick. That's crazy. 721 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,960 That's good. And yeah, and you guys, I mean, 722 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,920 you're, you're, you're young, you're beautiful. 723 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,360 Like, thank you. You're you're literally living 724 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,000 the dream. Like you're successful, that 725 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,040 that shit's crazy. Like you genuinely should be so 726 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,040 proud of what you guys have accomplished and like the, the 727 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,040 networking that you've done and the just the success you've had 728 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,080 is it's amazing. So genuinely hats off to you 729 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,320 guys for for what you're doing. It's it's awesome. 730 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,160 It's really cool. Thank you man, way thanks. 731 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,720 We appreciate that. You know the acknowledgement. 732 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,520 Thank you very much. I mean man, you said you're 28 733 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,440 and you look young too bro. I would never guess but even 734 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,160 with the stash on bro, like you look young. 735 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:02,600 Take it with pride. I'm 20. 736 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,000 I'm about to be 26 in like 2 months Dang. 737 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,920 Bro yeah, dude, you're doing better than me, bro. 738 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,800 You got you got that glow, do you guys? 739 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,080 Everyone's, everyone's laughing in this room. 26. 740 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,760 But I'm like the oldest. One. 741 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,680 So you're young bro. I know man. 742 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,520 Yeah, yeah, young status. I mean like honestly at this 743 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,400 point it's like 30s is the new 20s. 30s is the new 20s is he 744 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,800 real? I like that I. 745 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,800 Mean especially, you know, lifespan going up, you know, 30s 746 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,040 is the new 20s. 30s is the new 20s dude. 747 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,600 I will say the hottest, I think the hottest people I've ever met 748 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,680 in my life have been in their 30s hands down. 749 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,800 Like consistently top five hottest people in their 30s. 750 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,800 Hey, dude. What's your type? 751 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,480 We're not there yet or you said. I got you bro. 752 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,400 I got you. I got you. 753 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,400 Wait, what's your type? My type, Oh man, I'm a I'm a 754 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,320 pretty diverse guy. I'm a I'm a big energy guy too. 755 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,600 I know that's like so cliche but. 756 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,680 No energy physically. Physically, I like, I'm a little 757 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,600 thick. I'm not going to lie to you. 758 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,160 I people argue with me online, like they'll literally gaslight 759 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,200 me in my own comments. I'll be like, I'll be like, hey, 760 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,920 I really like fat boys. And they're like, they're like, 761 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,360 no, you don't. I'm like they think they're 762 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,320 being. Performative. 763 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,120 What's that? They think it's performative? 764 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,239 Yeah. And and like, you know, I 765 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,000 understand. I I will say this, like the plus 766 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,199 size community does get like they kind of get shitted on like 767 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,800 pretty bad, you know, do. You know Santana I. 768 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,239 Worked with Santana? Yeah, I just worked with 769 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,840 Santana. You shout, you shout, you collab 770 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,480 with him. Yeah, dude, no one is a 771 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,840 sweetheart, bro. I did a top. 772 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,280 Yeah, we, I topped them. It was great. 773 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,080 I do love Santana, but I I like, I like the guys I like. 774 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,400 I like dads. I'm a big, I'm a big. 775 00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:37,199 I'm a big dad guy, daddy guy. So like hairy old, like Gray 776 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:39,320 hair big. Like what does that dad mean? 777 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,239 Yeah, I think like, OK, I want you to close your eyes, OK, 778 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,080 Everybody close your eyes. close them, close your eyes. 779 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,719 OK, You're you're at you're at the grocery store, OK, You're at 780 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,080 the grocery store. You see, there's a man at the 781 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,520 he's in the he's in the, the meat, the meat aisle. 782 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:53,679 He's looking. He's trying to find some food to 783 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:54,520 grill. OK. 784 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,639 Are we? Are you all with me? 785 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,600 Understood. He's about to throw down on the 786 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,120 grill. OK. 787 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,840 He's wearing cargo shorts. He's wearing those Skechers. 788 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,880 You know the ones? Yeah. 789 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,280 He's got like a button down short sleeve. 790 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,920 K. You with me? 791 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,640 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see him. 792 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,800 He turns around. He looks you dead in the eyes. 793 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,920 That's. Is that is that? 794 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,200 Is that his beeper? That's his yeah, bro. 795 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,760 That's his beeper, bro. He he looks at you, he's got a 796 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,000 mustache. He's got, you know, hairy arms, 797 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,600 hairy forearms on a dad. Oh, my God, bro. 798 00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:25,760 Oh, my God. Yeah. 799 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,520 That's it. That's it. 800 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,720 That's the that's the vision. You just wreck it Ralph. 801 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,600 I would, let me tell you this right now. 802 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,680 I would let Wreck it Ralph punch me in the face so hard that my 803 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,880 head popped off my body. That's. 804 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,280 And I would let him. Never mind. 805 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,720 Let him wreck you. Yeah, Let him wreck me, dude. 806 00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:44,840 I let him wreck me. Oh, yeah, Yeah. 807 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,960 Wreck it. Ralph is so hot. 808 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,800 You know who my goat is though. This is like goated. 809 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,040 Like if I could one cartoon character Stan Smith from 810 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,640 American Dad. Bro I'm I for that man. 811 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,040 Dude really so dead ass. He's doing that wears like the 812 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,200 suit, the main. Character The main character Bro 813 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:07,800 Stan Smith is like dude, I would be I would bottom for that man. 814 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,720 Oh my God bro. I never really thought. 815 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,320 About what's appealing about Stan Smith. 816 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,920 Dude, it's just something about his he's like a little gay. 817 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,160 I love a little gay dad like, you know, he's like he's like 818 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,000 the father phase, like the perfect father figure, like he 819 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,960 hates his family but loves them, you know, need he's got like 820 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,480 that, that masculine energy, But he he definitely has 821 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,480 experimented in college. You know, that's Canon for sure. 822 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:34,960 It's just something about him, dude. 823 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,000 It's something about his energy that he brings to the function, 824 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,760 the vibe I need. Decided to settle down. 825 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,000 I need him bad. I just want to touch more so on 826 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,160 the the daddy topic one more time. 827 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,000 So could I OK, So what I visualize you're still there. 828 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,280 I know, I know, but I literally I. 829 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,480 Know the same guy? But real quick, real quick, 830 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,480 'cause I was visualizing cargo shorts, you know, buttoned up 831 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,760 and, and what came to my head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 832 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,320 I'm just going to say the name if you're not familiar. 833 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,680 I also got a photo all right, But what I visualized was a a 834 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,920 hairy daddy, and it was, are you familiar with Cole Connor? 835 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,800 No. OK, so this is what came to my 836 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,640 mind and I'm going to show you this photo and you let me know 837 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,720 he's a close friend of ours. Let me know what you think of 838 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:17,240 his daddy, right? Here 10 out of 10 Smash I need. 839 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,200 I want him to cosplay as Stan Smith and then I want him to. 840 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,160 This is a good hey. This is a good Stan Smith. 841 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,200 He's a great Stan Smith. Put him in a zoo. 842 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,680 If he wants to do a couple's Halloween costume, hit me up. 843 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,120 I think he's here, right? Now, yeah, I think. 844 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,720 He's actually here right now. I'll be Roger. 845 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,680 OK. Is that alien? 846 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,160 Yes, the alien, bro. Alien. 847 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,800 Yeah, yeah, that's the alien, bro. 848 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,960 No, he's he's so hot, bro. That's crazy. 849 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,000 He gives like a nice like gym sesh workout, you know like he 850 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,040 just is all around. And I don't think he is here. 851 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,480 I would be like in shambles if I saw him at the gym. 852 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,200 I'd be like shake. I'd be like trying to do like, 853 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,960 like, you know, lifting be like quaking. 854 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,160 That that that's just what is what came to my head when you 855 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,520 were started describing that. Was it because we can, we can 856 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,320 move on. I just wanted. 857 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,200 So like you're, you're really into dads and all that, right? 858 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,920 Yeah. So like, do you have any sugar 859 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,400 daddies? Be honest with us now come on, 860 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,120 that's. Good, That's good. 861 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,440 That's good. You know what's really funny is 862 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,160 that so I've never, I've never had the closest thing I ever had 863 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,480 was this guy that would send me like $20 on Cash App. 864 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,880 This is before I even did social media, which is crazy, but he 865 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:22,360 was like $20 on Cash App and and it was like just randomly and 866 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,640 that was the closest thing. But I always tell people like, I 867 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:25,800 don't think I could have a sugar daddy. 868 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,840 I'm way too like nice. I think I would like end up 869 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,920 paying him. I'd be, he'd be like, you know, 870 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,680 paying him. Yeah bro, I'd be like so. 871 00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:37,000 You'll be a sugar daddy. Dude, I literally I, I think I 872 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,200 like, you know, situationally, right, like we go out to dinner 873 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,240 or something, I'd be like, oh, that's fine, I'll get it. 874 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,920 And it's it's all good. Like I'll pay. 875 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,000 You don't have to pay for it. I'll take care of it and like 876 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,520 that type of shit, dude, I just can't like I can't take 877 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,040 advantage of you. I feel like the weirdest thing 878 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,320 about it. Got it. 879 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,520 And not that, you know, you can have a healthy relationship with 880 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,000 a sugar daddy. Like they want something, they 881 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,360 give you something in return. Like it's do your thing, you 882 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,400 know, get your bag, sister. But for me, like I think if I 883 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,600 ever like did escorting or anything like that I it would 884 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,000 genuinely ruin my life. So you think that people who do 885 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,840 go and take the sugar daddy route, you, you, you consider 886 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,880 those people like taking advantage or is it more so like, 887 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,440 because I think initially when you go about having a sugar 888 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,440 daddy, I'm pretty sure the sugar daddy initiates it first, no? 889 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,520 Yeah, no, no, no, for sure, for sure. 890 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,480 And that please, definitely like don't let me misquote myself 891 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,560 there because I, I have a lot of friends who like, do I have like 892 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,120 sugar daddies and stuff. And I don't think that it's 893 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,400 like, I don't have much. I don't know. 894 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,640 Yeah, yeah, I don't think that it's like taking advantage of. 895 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,480 I think that there's a give and there's a take. 896 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,880 And I think the problem is it's a me problem. 897 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,960 I don't know how to take. Like I, I will give and give and 898 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,280 give people like he's the sugar daddy. 899 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,560 Like literally like I, I, I just have a really hard time 900 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,320 accepting things from people. And like, you know, if it's like 901 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,400 a genuine gift or like someone like, hey, let me cover your 902 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,520 meal or let me cover this like, yeah, you can accept it. 903 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,920 But like the the idea of me like, like finding someone with 904 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,840 the sole purpose of like let me utilize this person for their 905 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,960 money. It's just really hard for me to 906 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,280 like. Yeah, and I think you said it 907 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,640 earlier, like when you were doing social media that you 908 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,560 couldn't, you didn't want to take people's money. 909 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,560 Yeah, like it's just, it's just something about like, and 910 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,400 that's, again, I cannot express this enough. 911 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,880 No shade to people out there have sugar daddies because I've 912 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,120 got a lot of friends that do and like, get your, like get your 913 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,760 bag sister. But it's just for me, I have AI 914 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,960 and I understand it and I just think that it's like just 915 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,760 something that I, I don't think that I could do and also like to 916 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,280 having conversations. That's another reason that I 917 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,840 respect you guys so much is like, I think we live in a world 918 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,800 where everything's so taboo and everything's so like off limits. 919 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,880 And it's so crazy because you can't use like words on TikTok 920 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,720 now. Like you have to blur your blur. 921 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,480 You have to, to bleep yourself while talking to get words out. 922 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,800 And it's like, bro, it's just words. 923 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,400 We're human beings, we're animals, We have, we have 924 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,040 fetishes, we have kings. Like, why is it so crazy for us 925 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,560 to acknowledge it and talk about it? 926 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,400 And so, like, one of the reasons that I respect this so much is 927 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,840 because it's like putting, I don't know, it's like giving a 928 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,640 voice out there to some, you know, some important things that 929 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,960 people are afraid to talk about, of course. 930 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,680 Yeah, man, thank you. You know, and you know, I guess 931 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,800 within that being said, you know, I just feel like that's 932 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,440 exactly what we're here to do. You know, in the very beginning, 933 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,520 like I told you, you know, just Bros being Bros. 934 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,320 And then I just had came to this because even in the very 935 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,480 beginning, when it was just us, before we had started to 936 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,840 introduce guests, we were just, you know, goofy guys just being 937 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,320 Bros, you know what I mean? Just hanging out with the 938 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,320 homies. And we would just really say 939 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,720 whatever it is that we really wanted, you know? 940 00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:31,360 And that's really where it stems from. 941 00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:32,840 And then and then. Yeah, so. 942 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,160 Have you ever gone with a straight guy? 943 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,000 Like in real life. Yeah, no, no, straight guy 944 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,200 never, never managed to make a straight guy fold. 945 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,520 But I don't. Again, I don't. 946 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,080 So I don't do like a lot. Of off camera no kids so it's. 947 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,000 A kit well, The thing is like any, any situation where you're 948 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,240 going to be with a straight guy, you're going to like there's no 949 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,040 it's not going to be just a kiss because they're not going to be 950 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,560 at the bars, you know, you're not like. 951 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,320 I see they're. Not going to be at the club, 952 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,760 like if you're with a straight guy, you're with a straight guy, 953 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,320 you got like 10 minutes, you got to get that shit going. 954 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,200 But no, I don't know. I, I think it's, it's a shame 955 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,520 though. I think a lot of a lot of 956 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,960 straight men and with families, like my heart goes out to them. 957 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,360 I mean, I think there's a lot of, like, people out there who 958 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:19,160 still feel really trapped in like, social expectations. 959 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,960 And it's really a shame because like, there's a big world like, 960 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,920 you know? So like what? 961 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,360 What would you have to say to people that maybe are in that 962 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,200 scenario that are DL married but are actually gay? 963 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,440 I will say that I think a lot of a lot of folks who are DL view 964 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:38,680 it as like they have to be. They have to be this version of 965 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,040 themselves that like everybody else expects them to be and 966 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,640 society expects them to be and like their family expects them 967 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,240 to be. And at the end of the day, if 968 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:49,200 you are that version of yourself, you are not yourself 969 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,320 at all, at all. And you will never know yourself 970 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,040 until you like, let that shit go. 971 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,680 And honestly, dude, like you're just wasting your life. 972 00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,640 I mean, I hate to say it that way. 973 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,960 Like, it's not a waste. You're going to have your 974 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,520 family. You're going to have like people 975 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,080 that you love and care about. But like, do they really know 976 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,760 you? Like do they know the real you 977 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,080 or are you just like sneaking around using dating apps? 978 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,440 Like trying to find 10 minutes so that you can go hook up with 979 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,920 some like random person in the most dangerous way like. 980 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,280 Just just. Come to terms with it, come out 981 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,400 like it's it's 2026. When did you come out? 982 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,640 I've always been out. Yeah, remember he was wearing 983 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,320 makeup in high. School technically though, my my 984 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,640 real big outing story. I was 13 and I told my school 985 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,000 counselor. I knew that I was I knew that I 986 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,400 was gay like my whole life, but I, I told my counselor, she was 987 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,040 the first adult. I told her, but I was like, you 988 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,080 can't tell my mom like she's super, super religious. 989 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,920 My mom was out of prison at this point and I was like, I was 990 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,840 like, she's super religious. Like she'll kick me out. 991 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,040 Like I don't know. She's like, no, you're good, 992 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,520 you're good. So I told her I was bisexual. 993 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,080 Well, I get home from school, I'm feeling great, dude. 994 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:54,640 I'm like feeling like on top of the world. 995 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,280 I'm like, I finally told an adult like I feel good. 996 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,520 I get home, my mom's making spaghetti. 997 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,280 I walk and I'm like, I'm about to have spaghetti, bro. 998 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,560 This is the best day ever, bro. She's like staying in the 999 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,000 kitchen. She's she. 1000 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,400 I can just tell by her body language that she, like, knew 1001 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,520 something was up. She just turns around and she 1002 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,960 looks at me and she's like, get your stuff and get in the car. 1003 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,760 We're going to church. So she takes me to church. 1004 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,720 Really. Yeah, Brother Jeff, hope you rot 1005 00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:22,080 in hell. He's the pastor of our of our 1006 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,920 church back home. And he, yeah, he like sits me 1007 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,760 down and talks to me about how I'm an abomination for like 45 1008 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,720 minutes and how I'm going to like, you know, I'm destroying 1009 00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:35,480 my mom's life and I'm, you know, I'm hurting my family and all 1010 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,240 these things. And then he like starts fucking 1011 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,520 putting like holy oil on me and speaking in tongues and doing 1012 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,400 the whole 9 yards. And I just remember walking out 1013 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,240 of there and being like, I will, I told my mom I was like, I will 1014 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,200 never forgive you for this. And I have since then. 1015 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,000 We're she's like, we're really close now. 1016 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,360 But yeah, that was like my, that was my coming out experience. 1017 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,520 And then ever since then I've been like, it can't get any 1018 00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,120 worse. Right. 1019 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,480 She already knew. And yeah. 1020 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,280 Damn man. I mean, I just. 1021 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,840 What about the counsellor? That's pretty. 1022 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:04,760 Active. I don't know. 1023 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,040 I'm assuming she like. Did you ever see or speak to? 1024 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,360 Her never went back to her office no after that because she 1025 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,760 was like the school counsellor. So I was like, I was like, well, 1026 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,200 I'm never going to trust her again. 1027 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,120 Like actually, I'm pretty sure really shortly after that, 1028 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,840 because it would have it happened on a Friday. 1029 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,080 So it was the weekend after that. 1030 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,360 And I'm pretty sure really shortly after that, I told my 1031 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,320 mom that I either I'm doing home schooling or it's going to get 1032 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,080 real bad. And she, she, I guess she just 1033 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,040 didn't care enough. Like at that point she was like 1034 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,960 defeated with it all and she let me do it. 1035 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,160 OK, now does she get to see this version of yourself? 1036 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,400 How does she truly feel about you right now? 1037 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,800 Bro she loves me so much. Dude, I actually had a video go 1038 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,480 really do really well recently where she raided my collabs. 1039 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,000 So like I showed her the guys that I clubbed with and she like 1040 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,800 rated them on a Skype from 1:00 to 10:00. 1041 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,720 And it got a lot of attention from people that are like, you 1042 00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:54,400 know, maybe you know, this is too woke for me. 1043 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,280 But I'm like, dude, my mom, like my mom is a real one, bro. 1044 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,160 She went to prison for eight years. 1045 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,120 You think she's fazed by the fact that I do porn? 1046 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,520 No, dude, like she's, she's such a, she's such a, a good mom now. 1047 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,600 Like I, I'm really happy that she was able to overcome like 1048 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,880 her addiction and everything to, to be there for me now, like 1049 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,560 versus, you know, if I would have never gotten to experience 1050 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,240 that relationship with her. There we go. 1051 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,520 I think that's the most important part. 1052 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:21,160 Yeah, dude, I love. Your family support. 1053 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,480 Love your family bro. Like if they love you, love them 1054 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,200 back. Like it's family is such A and 1055 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,280 whether it's your chosen family, biological family, whatever. 1056 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,560 Like if you have a family, dude, you, you have more than you have 1057 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,480 more than you need. Like that's really everything 1058 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,320 bro. True that. 1059 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,320 Well said. Absolutely, dude, absolutely. 1060 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,120 Damn man over here preaching and all man look at you man doing 1061 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,160 hey. Hey, somebody's got to, bro, 1062 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,480 somebody's got to. No, it's true, man. 1063 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,240 It's true. I want to get more so within 1064 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:51,640 like the financial part of your life a little bit. 1065 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,400 You know, when you started making real money. 1066 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,520 Yeah. It was like one of the craziest 1067 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,120 things you bought yourself. I know you said you don't really 1068 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,000 buy things for yourself, right? You said you don't necessarily 1069 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,120 spend money like that from what you said earlier, but you you 1070 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,760 never spoiled yourself with just like something you know. 1071 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,560 I've gotten a lot better over the years, like, you know, 1072 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,680 spending on myself because it's, it is something that like 1073 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,040 growing up really poor, you don't have money to spend 1074 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,880 whether you want to or not. I think the biggest thing that 1075 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:20,400 I've kind of splurged on myself with is probably like my 1076 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,360 cosmetic sort of like routine, like my face, skin care and 1077 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,760 stuff. I had a really bad cystic acting 1078 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,960 growing up. I'll shoot you guys a picture of 1079 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,640 it later. It's crazy. 1080 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,640 I like the craziest cystic acne, bad scarring. 1081 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,960 So I had a, a surgery done. It was like a CO2 laser like 1082 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,400 resurfacing thing that was like one of my biggest first 1083 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,880 purchases. And they like basically lasered 1084 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,200 off like an entire layer of skin and like helps with with 1085 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,440 scarring and everything. And I've done a few things like 1086 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,000 I had my lower back, like a skin tightening thing because I've 1087 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,680 had like, you know, really bad, like stretch Marks and things 1088 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,720 like that. Just little things that I think 1089 00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:59,280 are like make me feel more confident in my skin. 1090 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,800 You know, that's been my biggest splurge. 1091 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,600 I would say that's like the one thing that I will, I will spend 1092 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,280 money on because it a, it's my career, but also like it makes 1093 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,560 me feel better. It makes me feel good about 1094 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,320 myself, you know, and like, I can feel like the work that I'm 1095 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,840 doing is being enhanced, you know? 1096 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,440 So that's my, that's my splurge. I'm not a big brands guy. 1097 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,160 I don't buy like a lot of clothes and stuff for myself. 1098 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:22,800 Got it. Yeah. 1099 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,760 I mean, hey, you know, you got to invest yourself some way 1100 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,000 somehow, You know, I think the skin care is doing you well, 1101 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,720 man. I mean, 28, you know, I mean, 1102 00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:30,080 you're looking good. Like I said earlier, I think 1103 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,080 we're all looking young at this age. 1104 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,040 So fucking man, it's got to take care of yourself. 1105 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,880 That's all it is. I love skin care bro. 1106 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,800 Yeah, man, you got to maintain and take care and that's it. 1107 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,680 I just put, I just put just face moisturizer on my face every 1108 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,760 morning just to kind of wake me up more, but I don't do anything 1109 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,880 else but that. I bet, I bet you're one of those 1110 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,280 like Dove soap guys. You just put Dove soap on and 1111 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,440 go. I. 1112 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,400 The most beautiful skins usually are I. 1113 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,320 Don't wash my face. Of course you don't. 1114 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,720 Of course you don't. You're like in a you're like in 1115 00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:56,640 a gas station bathroom, like splashing, like the little pink 1116 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,080 soap that they give you. Yeah. 1117 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,440 And you're like, perfect. And then your skin's just 1118 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,320 gorgeous. Yeah. 1119 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,560 I'm. Just Oh well, I appreciate the. 1120 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,600 Compliment. No, it's crazy. 1121 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:04,640 That's literally how it is though. 1122 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,480 Like I feel like the people who do like, the least have the most 1123 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,080 beautiful skin. Yeah. 1124 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,920 Interesting. I mean, I guess so, yeah. 1125 00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:12,760 But I mean, for you, how do you grow? 1126 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,680 How long does it take for you to grow stash like that though? 1127 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,880 Bro not too much on the stash bro now this is like my people 1128 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,800 it's still growing in dude my family isn't I don't have like 1129 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,320 good mustache genetics. So this is this is like months. 1130 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,880 This is like months growing in. Really. 1131 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,880 Yeah, okay, yeah, I just, it's a, it's a cute look. 1132 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,680 As I get older, I'm like, you know, I gotta ditch the twink. 1133 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,160 The twink look at some point. Got it. 1134 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,720 Yeah. I mean, someones gotta, someones 1135 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:41,040 gotta do it, you know? I mean, I mean you trying to 1136 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,840 grow bearder? You ditching your twink look? 1137 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,800 Bro unfortunately I can man. I mean the facial hair just 1138 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,480 wasn't for me. I just think the facial hair 1139 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,000 really. I did laser like on my face. 1140 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,680 I did laser procedures to get rid of. 1141 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,000 All you're so you have such a beautiful face structure. 1142 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,160 You thank you. You wear your bare skin so well. 1143 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,280 Thank you. Definitely, definitely see why 1144 00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,760 you you went with that. Yeah. 1145 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,080 Yeah, I, I, yeah. I mean, from what you see now, 1146 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,760 it was not like that when I before the laser. 1147 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,680 It was like very, it was pretty bad, more so because even if I 1148 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,480 were to go about taking care of it, it was a lot of like 1149 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,800 ingrowns, a lot of pimples, especially from like the razor 1150 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,240 burns. It was it was a really bad 1151 00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:14,360 cycle. I was going through with that 1152 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,200 and and yeah, I just really wanted to kind of get away from 1153 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,200 all that. So I just. 1154 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,160 Yeah, you did a procedure that makes you feel like more 1155 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,200 comfortable in your skin. That's like, it's exactly, I 1156 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,880 preach it. I'm a big, I'm a big advocate 1157 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,080 for that. I think anybody that that has 1158 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,680 anything done, whether it's like lip filler or whatever, or laser 1159 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,840 hair removal, do whatever you want to do to make yourself feel 1160 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,560 better in your skin. Yeah, it's it's just like a less 1161 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,360 of a process, like having to shave every like three. 1162 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,680 Well, for me it was every two days. 1163 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:40,800 Damn, bro. Yeah, like I I would like grow a 1164 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,800 big one. It was crazy. 1165 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,400 If you guys could get any one procedure, what would you get 1166 00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:50,720 BBL. I would get, you know, bimax. 1167 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:51,760 No. What's that? 1168 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,800 Double jaw surgery. Wait, really? 1169 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,480 What is that? Double jaw surgery so I'm not 1170 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,720 sure. So his jaw would be lower and 1171 00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:03,080 out more so he can have a nice big jaw in. 1172 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:04,800 And the upper jaw. Everything. 1173 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,320 Double jaw surgery. The implants. 1174 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,240 Like Stan Smith. Like Stan Smith? 1175 00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:10,000 Yeah, Stan Smith. Yeah, I see. 1176 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,200 I'll get the Stan Stan Smith effect. 1177 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,360 DM me, I got you. Yeah, we'll get this. 1178 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:15,400 We'll. Get the surgery scheduled 1179 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,760 tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, it's 50K. 1180 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,480 I got 50K. I'll make sure to. 1181 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,800 Reach out, Brent. What would Brent? 1182 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,360 Yeah, what about? You guys, I kind of already got 1183 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,920 the one that I wanted. I don't know what else I would 1184 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,280 do. Probably laser on my back. 1185 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,320 I mean, other than that, probably the same thing but 1186 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,440 somewhere else. But other than that, I feel like 1187 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,600 I did what needed to be done and I don't know you. 1188 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,840 Said somewhere else where? Oh, my back like laser on my 1189 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,560 back question. I want to ask you, you know, I 1190 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,840 think right now from this conversation here, you're doing 1191 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,600 very well for yourself and I'm really glad to see that you 1192 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,520 know, you're doing very well, doing what you love. 1193 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:44,800 You got supportive people behind you. 1194 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,160 Where is take going to be in the next five years or at least 1195 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,960 where do you plan to be in the next five years? 1196 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,640 Yeah, dude, honestly that's a great question. 1197 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,840 I'm a big five year plan guy. I actually have a podcast studio 1198 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,840 back home that I'm putting together, OK. 1199 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,440 And so this is like really cool getting to see like the 1200 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,320 professionals do it first. I really want to start a podcast 1201 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,160 and and similar vein. I want to talk about a lot of 1202 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,080 the things that I think a lot of people are afraid to. 1203 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,760 So that's that's on my roster for this year. 1204 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,560 I want to write a book. I know it's cliche, but like 1205 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,400 that's cool. I think we talked a little bit 1206 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,280 about masculinity and I think as a gay man, you do kind of get 1207 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,240 conditioned to reject masculinity for a lot of these 1208 00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:27,760 reasons. And I think in the book, I want 1209 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,640 to talk about, you know, my relationship with masculinity 1210 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,640 and how it's not something that's exclusively for straight 1211 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,960 people. And, you know, and, and so a 1212 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,800 book, a podcast and yeah, dude, I want to travel more. 1213 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,080 I've, I've, I've only gone to 1 country other than this in 1214 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,080 England and I want to see the world a little bit. 1215 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,400 So yeah, five years from now maybe I'll be like, I'll be 1216 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,280 kicking it in some other country and doing some crazy stuff, 1217 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:52,800 yeah. Five years is a long time. 1218 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,480 Five years is a long time. Hopefully I get to come back on 1219 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,000 in five years. Hell yeah. 1220 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,960 And and we can catch. Up or maybe in five years your 1221 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,120 podcast is we go in yours. Yeah. 1222 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,320 Hey you. Know. 1223 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,200 Y'all come on my podcast whenever I get it set up. 1224 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,440 That would be awesome. It would be so such an honor. 1225 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,240 It would be like, hey. Do you have a name for it? 1226 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,640 I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1227 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,960 Oh, you're not gonna leak it. Damn, like should I do it? 1228 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,480 Is this you want? Is this the official? 1229 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,600 I mean, look, however you want to kick start the podcast? 1230 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,240 Yeah, a little soft launch, you know. 1231 00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:20,800 All right, you ready for this? Let's hear it. 1232 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,520 The the podcast is called Everybody Sucks, OK, And it's 1233 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,960 about how everybody has a relationship with intimacy. 1234 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,480 And whether you're like a mom of five kids or you're like raised 1235 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,720 on the streets, you were in, you know, Christian private school, 1236 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,160 you're going to have a relationship. 1237 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,960 And I think having more people like talk about it, just normal 1238 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,480 people talk about it is like so fascinating to me. 1239 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,160 So it'll be fun. I'm excited. 1240 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,760 I get to, I get to see like some cool stories. 1241 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,160 Fire. When do you plan on launching 1242 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,680 it? 2026, baby. 1243 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,600 We're getting it hopefully by by spring, hopefully I'll be 1244 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,400 shooting the first for the first episode. 1245 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,080 So yeah, I got to get, I got to get everything going. 1246 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,160 On You still live in Kentucky. I do, yeah. 1247 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,640 Yeah, I'm going to. It's cool going back there. 1248 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,040 It's a small town. Not a lot's happening. 1249 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,080 So when I come out to places like this, everything feels a 1250 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,840 lot bigger and and more grand, so it makes everything special. 1251 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,880 I mean, with the meeting of Raheem, I can imagine everything 1252 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,200 felt bigger. Everything feels bigger, like 12 1253 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,080 inches bigger. Yeah, it's crazy. 1254 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,520 There we go, Tame. Hey man, thank you so much for 1255 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,880 coming on the podcast tape. Really appreciate it, man. 1256 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,720 It's for real. This is this is a really, really 1257 00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:33,560 good episode with you, man. I love the conversations we've 1258 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,160 had here. You guys honestly are the 1259 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,800 sweetest. This is so cool. 1260 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,840 I really do. I'm glad that this was my 1261 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,600 podcast Virginity I they couldn't have been a better one. 1262 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,120 Honestly, it couldn't have. You guys are great and I'm glad 1263 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:45,440 I got to see you. So hey. 1264 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,320 Anytime man, just you know, let us know whenever you want to see 1265 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,600 it again. Yeah, yeah, I'll, I'll just 1266 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,040 Venmo you guys what, like 20 bucks each and then we'll. 1267 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,120 We'll reveal the. Yeah, tip me on my. 1268 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,240 Stream, I got you. I got you. 1269 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:56,520 Tip on the stream. Tip on the stream. 1270 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,120 Yeah, yeah. There you go. 1271 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,000 But if they want to find you, where can they find you? 1272 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,520 Follow the journey. So if you Google Tate Hoskins, I 1273 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:06,320 should pop up my Twitter and Instagram is real, REAL Tate 1274 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,400 Hoskins, my first and last name, government legal name, you know. 1275 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,080 And yeah, you can, you can find me on there and follow me and 1276 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,160 keep up with me and see all the crazy bullshit that I get into. 1277 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,640 It's fun. Check out to you guys. 1278 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,880 Come on now, check. Them out if you guys want to 1279 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,400 find me you can go to wild things dot VIP slash Julian for 1280 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,000 all my links go ahead and message me. 1281 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,000 And mine is wild things dot VIP slash Brandon for all my socials 1282 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,600 and the link. So the baby, come on now. 1283 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,240 And for all my links you could go to theparkerreed.com and you 1284 00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,560 can send me a message there. If you guys want to see the 1285 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,600 uncensored version of this podcast, we talked about a lot 1286 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,680 of wild things and stories. We definitely had a censor this 1287 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,080 one. Go check out our Patreon, it 1288 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:49,680 will be linked down below. Super super good insightful 1289 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,720 episode. You definitely want to say this 1290 00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:53,360 one. You definitely want to say this 1291 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,720 one Uncensored, Yeah. The next time, we'll see you 1292 00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:57,200 guys later. Peace, Peace.