Have you like, kissed a guy? No.
No.
What guys did I kiss? To your left.
Y'all kissed each other. We kissed.
Oh, you want us to kiss, right? Now no.
Are you a Dom? Tough.
I'm a top, a Dom top depending what they want.
So like if they want me to, that's a Dom top.
I'm a top. If you want the extra that comes
with it, it'll come with it. So.
Which of us would be the most of your type?
You probably be the one. Wait, are you gay boy?
The only thing he knows, he hasn't experienced at all.
He doesn't know what he likes. He's a virgin.
I know I'm not gay. OK.
Are you sure? Wait, does size matter?
Some people can have like a big but like don't know how to use
it and then some people can have.
So do you think you were both born gay?
Think so We I knew I was gay since I was 6.
Well, how'd you know it's a long time?
Ago. This Is Us soon.
I don't think we should. Go there.
I mean, it's tell the story, OK? Welcome to the Wild podcast.
I'm Brandon Cardoso. I'm Deidre and Barboza.
And I'm Parker Reed. And we're in bed together.
Well, I'm not. I'm in the corner.
OK so me and Julian decided to, you know, be in the bed together
and for some reason Parker want to be in the corner watching.
How many got two people perpendicular?
Perpendicular, which we are about to intro just want yeah,
so this is the scenario today. But guys today's guest is
amazing. OK, funny someone say comedic.
OK, but very talented twins here that we have with us today.
Everyone, please welcome the Spellman twins.
They just like a real one in the room.
They just like their baddest. Don't press up by isn't just
trouble now? Yeah, look, he already know it's
trouble. Yeah, no, actually, you guys
look fantastic. I said this, you know, when I
first met you guys downstairs in the lobby, we are still in San
Francisco, by the way. We're in the hotel room and met
them downstairs in the lobby. And I was like, whoa, you can't
miss them. Like Blingdow?
Overdressed. Hey.
But I mean, I got one question for both of you.
Is San Francisco actually the gay capital of America?
Based off your experience in all the cities you've been in, all
that stuff, is this actually the gay capital?
I think so. I think so because I think
everyone's bold here. Like, they don't give a, they're
naked out on the streets. They don't give a everything's
gay. If you move to San Francisco and
you're homophobic, that's the issue.
So yeah, that. Makes sense.
Yeah, But real quick for the viewers, if they don't know who
you guys are, how would you guys introduce?
Yourself baddest bitches. Yeah, No, we are the stubborn
twins. We are performers, entertainers.
We actually do a lot. Like, we're in our master's
program, so we're also scholars, so we do a lot.
Yeah, perform everything. So we're I'm Calvin and I'm the
baddest Clinton. OK, I'm the baddest but hey.
So you guys are twins. You guys do like everything
together. Like how does that work?
Do you know each others position?
Oh yeah. Wait are who are you guys both
tops? So I when I'm not dating nobody,
I prefer the top because I'm I feel like we're I don't want to
say we're more popular online. I don't want nobody, just me and
being like, oh, I those twins, like absolutely not.
So I like we're so top while I'm.
Single and versed while I'm if I was in a relationship so yeah,
same here like I like I said, I don't want to know what people
be doing too much, you know yeah, I'm a top are.
You like dominant? Are you a Dom Tub bitches?
Something let me. Teach you bitches something.
So there's different. So I'm a top, a Dom top
depending on what they want. So like if they want me to, then
they want me to clap from the back, slap them.
That's a Dom top. I'm a top.
If you want the extra that comes with it, it'll come with it.
But yeah, there's different, different things.
You could be a Dom bottom where like they control it.
But say as I'm a top, if I'm a relationship, I'm definitely, I
need that. So yeah.
But yeah, So what is your guys's type thing?
I'll go 1st. I'm going to get dragged.
But actually, you know what? No, I'm not.
So I like, I like people a little bit older.
I thought she made a face like that.
I'm 27. OK, so.
Like in the 30s. Yeah, 30s forties like it just
depends. I don't think I could.
Whoa, damn. Hold on.
But they're like 50, but like they like, like they're fit
though they're not like hella like withered away.
OK. Yeah, OK, alright.
But how? I'm not finished though.
So like I like ball guys. I like people with beards.
I like all types though. Like I like all like you can be
super like buff. You could be, you could be
chubby. You just gotta be handsome.
I like a handsome face. Like if you're not handsome,
bitch, leave me alone. So which of us would be the most
of your type? We're not.
Sadly, I don't think any of you guys would be.
But. But if I had to pick out of this
whole room, you'd probably be the one, yeah.
End of. The Earth.
And I have to pick End of the Earth.
I'll probably pick you. Wait, does size matter?
I don't give a about that. I hate when people ask me that.
I don't think size matters. I think honestly some people can
have like a big. But like don't know how to use
it and then some people can have are you?
A virgin? Are you a virgin?
Virgin virginity. Rules.
He's a virgin. Apparently he's a virgin and he
got 10 inches. Do you really?
Yeah, she does. I just never used it so it's
like. You're lying.
You're so monotone it's hard to tell if you're telling the truth
or not. I can't.
I can't take him seriously. He's he's the females.
Wait, are you gay? No, wait.
What are you guys? But are we?
What do you think we are? Well, the only thing he knows,
he hasn't experienced at all. Well, that's the thing.
Like he doesn't know what he likes.
He's a virgin. No, I'm, I'm, I just, I know I'm
not gay. OK.
Are you sure? Yeah, I'm sure.
What? Hold on that pause, though.
You pause. No.
Well. Well, what Parker?
Coming Out podcast. No, no.
It's just, you know. The end of the day is one of
those things where it's like people can speculate, but it's
whatever, yeah. There's nothing wrong with.
Being I like that, I respect that though I I.
Hope you don't think there's anything wrong with being gay,
no? No, absolutely not, and I hope
there's nothing wrong with you being straight.
Oh yeah, there's. Nothing wrong with being
straight. Yeah, we're good.
But yeah. That's yeah, I respect that.
Like, I mean, you're a virgin, but obviously like you'll
experiment one day actually. Yeah, I'm hoping, but no, my
experiment. I mean, like, what a girl,
sorry. What a girl?
Like you'll have like experience, experience,
experience. Sorry, not experiment.
I have a question for you guys. Were you guys like athletes?
Like athletes in school? Yeah, yeah.
What you guys do? Let's start here.
I play basketball and football. OK.
What was your position? Football is tightened and I was,
well, I was like all the ends. OK.
I'm a fast runner. No, OK, not being like when?
You're gay people here. It's just.
Weaker. Yeah, it's not.
It's nothing. It's just.
But but yeah, I'm, I'm just, I was a really fast runner.
Alright, I want a QB, but I guess I'm not a good thrower.
Yeah. So yeah, it's kind of a yeah.
What about small receiver forward?
I guess basketball, you're a good receiver.
You're a good receiver. He's a good.
Receiver, what would you play? I was.
I just wrestled. I can see that.
Yeah, you like that, huh? Yeah, he does.
Yeah, I like that. Well, because the I actually
don't lately because I was wrestling and I injured my elbow
like a few weeks ago and it's still not.
He's getting serious, actually. That's crazy it was getting.
It well, no, actually that was not that hard of a matter.
I was landing Wait, I have a. Question with the wrestling now.
I mean like I feel like. Isn't that the gayest sport?
I feel like don't don't you like, I don't know, the friction
makes you like when you wrestle No, I couldn't wrestle 'cause I
would get Hello, now I. Would that's what my kid is
Speedo like I'm not saying that 'cause you like them, but I feel
like it's just that body contact makes me no OK, just have.
But but no. No, I'm saying I think I've seen
someone get like. Those are some Titans.
Those are. Some.
From you. No, but he was.
No, no, he was wrestling somebody else.
Oh, but sometimes they make you wrestle against like girls.
And then that's when I got scared that I would get.
Did you? No.
Oh. Good, 'cause I never had to
wrestle a girl, but yeah, yeah, girls would be like wrestling
the guys. But I never wanted to do it
'cause I was like afraid that something would happen.
Yeah. Well, there it is.
Oh, you guys are playing these sports?
Yeah, so we, I played baseball growing up and also like
basketball, football and we. Were you guys Dominican?
No, it's we're black, but we're our, our mom says we're black,
Indian and Italian 'cause my mom is really like, she's like your
skin. Are you guys a skin?
She's literally you guys a skin color.
Yeah, so, but I don't know how our dad, like, ate up the jeans.
And then you and then same thing with the sports.
So yeah, I mean kind. I didn't play baseball and they
didn't let me play basketball. I was like more of the
troublemaker and rebellious. Were you guys out in high
school? No, but people knew, though.
They knew. But so I played.
I I played football and I play and I ran track and we got a
scholarship at SAC State to run track too.
So that's. Interesting.
I I do want to have this might be a little bit of a personal
question, but I'm just curious to know.
So OK, twins, you know, obviously you guys go about
having to share similar things sometimes, but you guys would
say there are some things different between you both, but
you guys are obviously the same age, but you guys are both gay.
So like, did you guys like come out to each other?
Like how did that happen? Like who came out first?
And we were like, I am too. Double homicide.
I. Can make it short.
Basically what happened was this is crazy.
So so my dad had his his girlfriend, he's an Asian
girlfriend. She was super straight and so
they used to never have us have technology, but like we
convinced her to let us use our iPod fives.
This is when they have the iPod five generation, yeah.
I have one of those. Two yeah, exactly.
That's it. Yeah, shout out to Apple.
But yeah, we, I for some reason, she also convinced us to like
take the passwords off. So I remember like one night I
was she, we were asleep or whatever and like they had like
cameras in the house to watch us.
It was crazy. I know.
I it was so it was so annoying, but like basically like I was, I
wasn't supposed to do on there. Like I was talking to guys and I
was like 17 at the time. And so she like pretty much went
through it, my iPod and my, she basically told our dad out at me
and our dad came upstairs and got, he was like, which one of
you guys are the, and basically like hit us and stuff for it.
So we ran away from home when we were like 17.
Yeah. Yeah, that's a short story.
Yeah. No, no, I can only, I can only
imagine. What about now?
What? Do you mean is he accepting now?
No I haven't he. It's funny, he was 30 minutes
away from us and haven't talked to him for a decade.
Damn. Still.
Haven't spoken to. Him since I was 17.
I'm 27 now. Well, I think that's really
important to know too, that you guys definitely stay true to
yourselves, you know, of course, you know, I think especially too
when it comes to twins, y'all got to stick together and I
think it's really so you guys ran away together.
He ran. I ran away first.
I was dead. It was like a movie.
So like when he found out he like obviously the girlfriend
out of us that night my dad like kicked me in my neck.
But like first of all he didn't find nothing on my phone.
This everything. Was on his phone, but bitch, why
do I get why do I get my chopped off bitch like kicked like
bitch, I got my he kicked me in my neck and so he's like, I know
you're not the I know. I I have.
Nothing on your phone, but you're still a I'm like, what?
I'm a. Little more feminine than my
brother, though I will say, like I am am asking, but I have
feminine more qualities than he does.
So they he knows. So I think they already suspect
I was gay and that's why they probably didn't put me in like
baseball and stuff like that, because I feel like they always
favored him. It's it's a whole crazy story,
but I feel like they definitely favored him.
But so that night I he kicked me and then he was like, I'm about
to go with my girl back into her room, back to my room with my
girl. Like, OK, she ain't even looking
anyway, but we gonna get. Into that, but he goes into the
room. I grabbed my backpack and I ran
downstairs, open up the garage and my school is like a block
away. I went to the Creek, shout to
Laguna. I went to the Creek and I ran to
there and it was like 6:00 PM And they have like color guard,
you know, the color guard with the yeah, the dancer.
Yeah. So my friend was there and I
called my friend Jace on her phone and I said my dad like
basically hit me and beat me and all that stuff And so I went to
stay with my friend. So that night I ran away 1st and
then the next the next day he came he tried to pack stuff but
our dad wouldn't let him pack. And so ever since then, you know
he closed the garage and we never came back.
That's a short story and. We're like y'all just stayed at
friends houses and stuff. We stayed with our friend like
this is our senior year of high school by the way, like our the
second-half the last semester we never get to finish the school.
But so it was the last semester and we stayed with our friend
Lucius and we stayed for like 3 days.
But then his dad was like, we can't stay there forever.
So we called our mom. We we didn't talk to her for
like 11 years, but I always knew her number and so I told her can
she come pick us up? And then we end up going to
Redding. You know where Redding, CA is?
North Cal. It's in Lauren, California.
Yeah. But we went there and.
Yeah. And ever since then and then we
got like our scholarship to run at sexy.
Yeah, we are. We're close to her now.
Yeah. So yeah, she outdo our guy as
far as time that we spent now like I feel like she we've been.
Talking. For 11 years but then now she's
accepting 2 of your of your guys sexuality.
She's not. I mean.
She's like, she loves us. It's like honestly, she's super
religious. So like she accepts us but it's
like she still has like her but she does.
She does love us though. I respect her.
As long as she talks to us that's fine.
Like as long as she's not like our dad not talking to us so I
ain't tripping. Interesting.
Yeah. Now what would you guys say is
like the difference between you 2?
Oh well, I think the only big difference is like I feel like
I'm more masculine than he is but no listen and ever since
like in the sense like I like more sports and shame.
I got a question. Have.
We tried no. Oh, there you go.
Damn. Well damn well.
Not not that it says, but have you like, kissed a guy?
Have I kissed it now? No.
Are you sure?
No. What was that?
What guy did I kiss? I was just looking at him.
What? What guy did I kiss?
I kissed the guy who the is. That guy did.
I say who the is to your left. Weapon to your left.
You kiss each other. We kiss.
Oh, you want us to kiss, right? Now no.
I'm not. I I never.
I never. Yeah, I never.
Was so crazy that we're gay but when I see other like gay stuff
it's weird. Like I feel uncomfortable.
It's not crazy, is that? I don't know.
I fight 'cause we wait. Wait, what was?
That internal no, it's in a sense like, 'cause that it
exists, huh? It does like in a sense like,
but like I'm not homophobic obviously, but like I'm gay but
it's like we didn't grow up seeing.
That I I get like. So do you think you were both
born gay? Yeah, you're waking it up.
I think so. We I knew I was gay since I was
6. Wait, how'd you know it's a long
time? Ago, This Is Us.
Whoa, I don't think do you go there?
You. Want me to tell the story?
OK, so basically. I was keeping it cute,
basically, you know? Let's just say we were young.
We didn't do nothing with each other obviously, but like we
were, but like we were playing basketball if in football.
And obviously me and my brother found the team attractive, like
some of the people on the team attractive.
They used to come over to our house before the games and we
were all sleeping in the same room and.
What are you saying? What are you saying?
Well. I'm just imagining the scenario.
It was a different type of cat on the back, you know.
What I'm saying, but I always knew we were we were gay.
It was. It's weird, so.
Like. It's just like.
So how did you know though? Like you were six, They all came
to your house. Then what did you kiss?
Someone to say the least. To say the least.
OK, to say the least. I.
Want to go into the crazy detail?
And So what would you guys say? Like a lot of twin talk here,
but I just want to know because like there's got to be pros, of
course, right? But then also there's got to be
some con to having. Twins, yes.
Like I used to look at it growing up having a twin, I used
to always wish so I can call out sick and my brother could film
it for me, you know, like that. Those are the things that I
wished I had a twin for so that I didn't get a 10 certain
things. Duh, some would be iconic.
Or just. Pros and cons would you say with
them being twins? I can definitely answer this
one. I think the pros of being a twin
is that you have a built in best friend.
Obviously we've been friends, siblings for 27 years and we're
very close and our business is Spelman twins.
So we perform together, travel together, entertainers.
So that's really fun. The downside to that is you
sometimes don't have your own identity either or like for me,
it's like if I go travel somewhere out the state, I want
my brother to come because I don't want him to miss the
experience of going to somewhere and experiencing, you know what
I mean? And I feel like that sucks.
And it's like I always want to do stuff with him, not like
that, but you know what I mean? I understand.
I think. I think now I understand.
Yes, good. Now I understand you didn't get
it before. Run me in my fade.
But yeah, I think that is what it is.
Like we're very, I'm not saying attached, but like we are very
close. So we do a lot of things
together, but. I also think now like we're that
we got older, we do our own like we people think like we're just
so hella like close to each other, like we always got to be
by each other. But no, like, like we, we do
what we got to do and then we go to each other, our own rooms or,
you know, go see somebody. How much more masculine are you
than your brother? Since you said you're masculine,
I. Don't know how to describe that.
I don't know. I don't.
Think it's how much it's like what qualities?
What qualities, right, Like I I'll say more so like I just
feel like the things I like and like I'm not.
What do you like that he doesn't like?
Well, I think he's more, it's funny, like I like more like
playing like sports games. Like I actually watch sports.
Like I like going, I like football games, I like watching
basketball games, all that stuff.
He likes watching like music videos, like dancing, pop
culture, stuff like that. I like that too.
But he's more into that than I am.
Like he loves watching music videos.
I like whatever. He don't like watching music
videos like that, but we also balance each other too though.
But it'd be embarrassing. He'd be talking about sports and
all these people. I'm like like when people who he
talks to people, but I think we balance each other.
I think like. He he could be.
Feminine, like he'll twerk like that, but I think is that.
What you're saying? Yeah, we both be twerking.
I mean, y'all dance, right? Yeah, we're.
Going to twerk on Sunday, which we'll.
Definitely get into by the way. Go ahead.
But yeah, we're very. We're we complement each other,
Like I feel like we bring out like I feel like with he's
masking with style. So like I I'm not saying I feed
off of it, but like I could be masking and and feminine like I
can be like far. From to be masculine.
It is hard to like to like if I'm.
Acting. And I'm acting like, yeah, yeah,
I can't do that. He's.
Easier to do that. But.
I just feel like. I'm gay, bitch.
I'm not gonna just sit there and act hella hard.
And also when it come when it comes to sports too, it's like
we grew up playing sports all of our life.
Like I play sports. We're really good at it, but
it's like I feel like my that's all what my dad wanted.
Like he's very like we're like trophy systems to him, like like
play sports and like brag about us.
And I just didn't like doing that all the time.
I wanted to perform like do talent shows.
And so I just don't. I'm just tired of watching
sports. I if I'm not, if I'm in it, I'll
watch it, but if I'm not in it, I'm not watching.
No, if I'm like, say, if I'm playing sports right now and
somebody record me, I'm on TVI will watch it because it's me,
but I don't want to watch other men play sports.
That's. Boring, which is kind of ironic.
It is ironic, right? It is, but if my dad and them
like sports, hella y'all might be gay.
Right. Oh, OK.
Well, yeah, you know what? Like y'all, y'all be glued to
the screen watch. I'm sorry, no, they be watching.
Y'all be glued to that TV y'all. They actually are.
They actually missed our track meet one time.
He always came to our stuff just to watch Mayweather fight.
That weak ass fight. That was years ago.
Like I said, who was he fight? I don't remember.
It was a weak ass fight and he missed it to watch a man who's
gay. Yeah, I mean, shut up.
That is true and. The people who get mad over the
sports teams and stuff, this is another thing.
Let's wake some. Y'all be talking about gay, they
be talking about gay people, but y'all literally pay tickets and
get mad over men. But over fight each other over
sports you're fighting over a man.
Literally, what's the difference?
I know you. Got me thinking now do y'all.
Do that. I mean, I'd rather be the one
fighting. No.
Do you fight over your sports team?
Do y'all fight? It's not.
Ridiculous. I do want to get more into your
guys's talent. I mean, you guys do multiple
different things, right? It's like where I even start.
But of course you guys have this viral TikTok page, always my for
you page, by the way. But then you guys also dance you
you started singing to within recently a couple years ago till
you guys started, right? How did like you guys know you
guys had all that in you, You know, 'cause you guys moved out
right a really young age And then, you know, we kindled with
your mom like you just said. And then now you're over there
trying to figure things out between the both of you guys.
So like how did like the whole dancing, singing and you guys
becoming a talent overall? It it started.
When we were. So we, it was our first year of
college and we were staying with our cousin at the time and her
girlfriend was like, you guys should get on TikTok.
It was musically at the time for a game.
You guys remember musically? Yeah.
So it was only for a day and then it turned to TikTok.
So it was just crazy. So we she's we got on it and we
started making videos and then started going like, it's did get
well, like quickly. I was like, oh, I think we can
do this. So we started doing that.
And then when it did, it wasn't until we started college, we are
one of our friends. We had a group chat with all the
people who were coming, all the freshmen.
She was like, you guys should do YouTube.
And we just got on YouTube. And then we were like, oh,
attraction. And so we just started doing it.
And in 2021, we got into music. We sounded a mess.
I didn't know how to sing. Yeah, I didn't know how to sing.
I took vocal lessons like for like a couple months.
I was like, I learned whatever thing everything I have, I'm
like, I'm not going to doing this problem know how to sing
now like. Hey you.
Bitch, I could do it myself so. You you took lessons.
Yeah. Does does vocal lessons actually
help? It really does.
It does because it teaches you different ways to warm up your
voice. But you have to sing everyday,
too. We sing everyday.
Like, I don't know if you guys heard us singing when we were
here. Like you have to sing all the
time. Gosh, yeah.
That's how you strengthen your voice.
Interesting. So like you guys have like Hello
Songs out right now or like what's going on?
With that, you know what's so funny?
So we have the songs we were doing more experimental I feel
like. So we did like Brazilian, we did
like rock music, yeah. And our newest stuff was like
early 2000s Y2K inspire. It's it's fire like it's fire
like we have, it's like very performative and fire so.
I think that feature guy's personality very well, to be
honest, honest, you know, you guys seem like you guys really
fit that pop well, you know? We're it's our energy.
I can't do boring. Stage.
Yeah, who wants to just sit there and sing?
That I mean I I mean. Would you go to a concert just
to see someone sing? No.
No exactly. I need you to do something.
Yeah, I mean, the whole city one makes sense.
You want someone to come through, outshine, perform and
dance. Yeah.
So who are some artists that inspire you guys?
I think the the person that inspired us the most was like
Lil Nas X. He inspired us to like come out
too. So Lil Nas X, Britney Spears,
Rihanna for she, we grew up when we were our parents didn't let
us do much. Rihanna was like always on this
radio clock we used to listen to and we were like, damn, this
bitch is wrong. So Rihanna's like our spirit
bitch. Hell yeah.
She's also a Pisces too, just like us.
So. But yeah.
Oh yeah. Good Gemini.
Who? You're a Gemini?
Yeah. I'm an Aries.
OK, Aries Cancer. Scorpio.
So oh shit, I'm not. Going to lie, like I don't
really know much about the signs but my own.
So like what does like that mean about us?
Do you think we fit? Our two face Scorpio I just I
had there was a couple that we were friends with, we did
content with and they stole from us.
So I just don't like Scorpios. Damn Aries.
Aries Our best friends are Aries.
Aries We compromise each other really well with Aries.
So I fight. We we get along with a lot of
Aries. Oh hell yeah.
What are your guys's signs? Pisces.
Pisces, yes, but. So Scorpios steal.
Well, apparently. Well, what did?
What got stolen from? Money, they said like. 600.
Dollars. Yeah, damn.
We left them in our house and they stole from us.
We made videos every day. I must have been carrying cash
around you bro for real. That's why I don't carry cash
though, because of that. Well.
I got like Canadian. You got.
Canadian. You're from Canada?
No. No, no.
But I still have. Some Canadian cash left over.
Dude that is great and he went to Canada like last.
Week I got it. Yeah, I just came back, period.
Yeah. What, what would you say like is
your favorite place to travel to?
I mean, I'm seeing like you'd be traveling a.
Lot my favorite place. I do like Austin, TX a lot.
I was actually thinking about moving there, but then I'm like,
and now I was thinking about moving to LA, but I was like I
just really like Sacramento. I just like the it's like very
suburban N from here. Yeah, it's north is.
It still is it cold like this. No.
Freezing out here in San Francisco.
It was hella hot is. When we were, when we before we
left, it was hella. Hot.
And good thing the person we stayed with reminded me to bring
a jacket because I forget that San Francisco is cold.
Always. It's cold.
No, last night. Last night when we went to the
event and break, I actually called it.
Was what? It was break.
What does that mean?
Well. Use what?
Break, break. Means cold, right?
Yeah. No, yeah, I'm just hold.
On. Brick can mean like you go on
break. Brick Dog.
OK, well, there's two meetings for that.
I know, Brick. Dog.
'Cause that's a New York term too.
Brick, like you say, it's real brick out here.
Like like. Yeah, no, I mean, I don't know
if they use it in New York. I think they do.
I use it every. Yeah, no, there's.
No, it comes from New York originally.
That's. A That's a New York.
Term or not 'cause like what? But what exactly does that mean?
Cause like brick obviously bricked up, but like brick could
be like it could be using different, you know, it's
actually crazy. You guys hear something that's
crazy happened yesterday with us.
So we went to this, we went to Badlands.
They have one in Sacramento, but we end up going this, but it's a
gay club. We end going to this event.
You guys should have you guys get some good interviews.
Yeah. Barracuda.
Hold on, what time y'all go? Well, it was a it was a one day
event. It was a party.
But I'll if they have another one, I'll send it to you.
OK, Cool. Yeah.
So it was called Barracuda. It was like bears, like the bear
people. Yeah.
So you know. Yeah.
That's your type, right? Someone say I'm a bear.
That's. My type.
Oh, you little hairy, you know. Damn, we got body too.
I see. Look, I'm.
I'm a swimmer. You're not a bear, you're an
Otter. I mean Otter.
If. If it was the end of the world,
you would be the my type. Wait, why?
What had changed? Girl, he's, he has hair.
I'm Brazil. I'm Brazilian.
That's why. Really.
Yeah. You're really Brazilian.
Yeah, that's how you. Speak to them in Portuguese.
What's that Mundo bonito? I don't know what you said.
I mean, I said you're beautiful. Oh, thank you.
Of course, Tiamo. Yeah, I'm seeing it go up.
Look. Oh.
Please no, not, not, not. No, but yeah.
So he's Mexican and he's Colombian.
Nice. OK, I didn't finish the story.
Though oh, go ahead. So y'all should have went there
'cause like people, so we were. We bear a bear.
It's like a bear. Knight So bear food.
Yeah. Yeah, you're good.
So basically we go there and obviously like we're twins and
people like you. I always don't think about
people will be into us like bears will be into us and stuff
like that, 'cause you just never know, 'cause they're, you think
they're there for other bears. People come up to us and like
they start dancing and then it gets to happy hour, midnight and
everyone, it's weird. Like everyone just starts
looking around and starts like looking the, and these people
are on the floor. I have a video, we have a video.
That's it. Do you have it yo?
You guys actually, no, you guys actually do have.
Dead ass I do. Yo-yo, have you ever shared the
same? Man, no, no, we never shared the
same man. It's just a.
Lie. We haven't shared like the same
man, but we've been with the same person before.
Yeah, but not the same time, and not intentionally either.
You know, it's actually like people will.
They feel like that got to be like a goal if somebody's like
they. Do and, and what they'll do OK,
so basically like people would like pretty much like they'll,
they'll talk to like me or whatever, right?
And that they'll they talk to you like when they know, when
you know you've seen this person before, they act like they don't
know who who the person is. So they're talking like a brand
new person. So like, we won't know that we
hooked up with the same person because they won't say that I've
been with your brother because because when people tell us
like, oh, I've been with your brother, we don't meet with
them. Like we don't meet with the.
Same people love to be in the room to where you guys had both
found out for the first time that you guys actually went
about doing it with the same person without them telling you
because you found out without each other right like yo hey, I
hooked up with you gay No no no, no like you guys no we.
Find out from the person. Oh, they tell you.
Yeah, they'll say like some people.
After the fact. Though so it's like because they
know because like we don't meet the same people.
Like what's the bitches? Pretty fishes, Breathless
brewfish, Yellowfish in the sea? Bitch.
I don't meet the same person like bitch.
So yeah, so they usually, sometimes they'll tell us like,
oh, I met your twin by the way, you going to tell me this after
I hook up with you though? This is why I don't bottom
because so. I just feel.
Like to me, I don't feel safe being a gay and like they people
talk in the community and like I said, I feel like we're popular
and people know who we are and I just don't want I don't like
people talking about me. Oh.
Yeah, I gotta. Keep you private.
Yeah. And I know people obviously
would sexualize us, but it's like I'm we're very classic.
You're too. Attractive to not have.
It's like how yeah, don't. We just need to take advantage.
Do you not care? No.
It's just not that big of a deal.
Robbie trying to hook him up, but he don't want to.
And I was like, all right, bet. I think, I think he's, I think
he's going for the right version.
I think you guys are turning along.
Asexual. You think you're asexual.
You know what's funny? I actually kind of believe you
in a sense because you have the demeanor of those.
Like you're too, you're too neutral.
Like you have like something different about you in a good
way like too. Neutral.
I feel like I'm expressive. No, you, no, you are, but
you're, you're not like. Them you're not like them or
like they're they're like you have like this.
Yeah, yeah. It is not bad though.
Oh, so I can see you being a I can see you sexual.
Yeah, I can see that. Have you ever gotten with a
straight guy? Of course.
Wait a minute, but like, is there other straight though?
So it's recently I met this one. I've really met this guy and I
didn't know he was I didn't know he had a wife.
Like I, I'm at a point in my life where like I like to get to
know people. Like I don't want to just have a
like in like random hook up. Like I want to get to know him.
I go there and he kept saying he said something about partner and
I let it go over my head. I'm like, what does he mean
partner? Like because he said he's coming
to the event. I found out he's and he's a
bottom like. Like married to a woman?
Yes, there's a lot of people like that.
Most guys who who who are married to women want to get by
men. You know, there's a guy, another
guy that text me he's like he lives in LA.
He's like he's he's married. I found he has kids and.
You just ate. So now you just put some in my
mind right now, 'cause I did know about the whole like,
married and, you know, really getting into, you know, the
whole aspect of maybe they're possibly gay.
I didn't think about what position they'd be in 'cause I
always thought like. 1st I'm sure.
Right. I mean.
Tell you why, though, why keep going?
Keep going. I mean, I mean, that's pretty
much it and I'm trying to figure out why.
So I think because like they're used to being dominant and like
even in their work field, like they're dominant, some of them
are like they have to be their provider all the time.
They want something, they want to be dominated.
So I I found out that you guys like you guys look like this is
crazy, No. Like the it's true though, they
want. To find the.
Screws. I feel like being straight.
This is why I'm happy I'm not straight because I feel like.
No, because I feel like you guys always get ridiculed by by
women. Like it's always like, oh, if
they do, we're defending you guys.
I feel like women are always. So hard on straight males
because I'm waking shut up. I feel like they're very hard.
Like you can't do certain things.
If you if you want to hang out with your friends too much,
you're gay. If you want to do this, you're
gay. And like, I feel like you're
gay. I feel like.
That doesn't make any sense. If you're hanging out with your
friends, how does? That.
Girls say. Those.
Girls, something like no, no, I'm saying.
Sometimes girls would be like, if you hang out with your
friends too much, that's giving gay vibes.
Like I've seen interviews where females are like oh that's gay.
You hang out with your friends too much.
And it's like if you only hang out with girls, then you're also
good. Yeah, it's like, but everything.
But the point is I've like. Women are really hard on
straight males and I feel bad for you guys because like I
thought you guys can't just be yourselves.
Like if you express yourself a certain way, you're hella gay.
If you show emotions, you're gay.
But I feel like when men, straight men, they want to be
dominated and want to be a bottom because they feel like
they are too. They always have to provide for
the woman, so they want to feel dominated.
I feel like I think that's the logic and I really truly believe
that. Interesting, So do you like
dominating straight men? I think it's.
Yeah, it's kind of we never talk about like this stuff.
We never talk about. I'm kidding.
I actually. It's so weird.
It's so weird because I feel like, like I said, I'm masculine
and feminine, but when I'm in bed or I'm talking to guys I
just put my masculine side on. Like I I literally.
Be what's so funny? I don't know, this is word
masculine when it comes out of your mouth bro.
I'm just thinking about it. I was like bro.
Bro, I'll be no, I'll be I hang. A lot bro, like hang a lot like.
Yeah. This is.
This is on the bottom right there a tattoo?
How many? You like what you see.
Do I? I mean, I don't hate.
Hold on, we got one let. Me see, we should have the same
tattoo. Wait, for real?
Yeah, there's actually. These right here except for
these are these are like different shirts.
Off. Well, no 'cause I'm looking
'cause it. That's why I asked.
It look like you guys both got it in the same areas.
Oh. Yeah, so this one, we got our
very first tattoo. We.
Call it like the Wolf, the
Spellman pack. So we like.
The Spellman pack, Yeah, because I got this one right here.
Oh, it's. Not it's not.
It's not done yet. But yeah, little clouds like my
mom's birthday, like you said, the beach.
I got seagulls on, you know, and all that.
But I'm trying to get this. But whenever they were filling
up these dogs, that shit. I know, right?
Here oh. No, because I know I only got
the little corners here. But when I felt that, no, no,
no. And you got to show him yours.
Oh, actually, he does. No, he has crazy ones.
Oh, go like this. When it hit right here.
Yeah, and and Parker, show them your back real quick.
Oh my, yeah, my. Let's see.
Hey, it is real quick, real quick.
How tall are you? Look, you got the.
You got the oh, that's hella tight.
Yeah, keep this hair. Off I got the the.
Spider. Do you guys know?
Who heard the guy? Spencer Webb?
The the the the Oregon football player who died.
He fell off the Cliff and ohh. No, I don't.
Know ohh he had. That spider.
That spider remind me, did I have a four on it?
Yeah, as a four. You don't know who that is.
Spencer Web. No.
Ohh, I thought she did. I was like, oh, OK.
Well, he had the same tattoo. He has spider his thing, his,
his fandom was like the spider, but he, he went to University of
Oregon and he wasn't going to the NFL.
He was, he was like, he was like one of our straight friends.
I actually like made us confident being around straight
people 'cause he didn't care we were gay.
So I as real said that cause of the tattoo he had, I think he
weren't #4. Interesting.
Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, it was sad.
It was sad What? No.
No, I was just like curious, like, how did that happen?
Yeah, I don't know. He was going, you know, like
when you're going down like to like a river or whatever, not a
river, but like he was going down something.
You know how you're walking down and he slipped.
When you're drunk, happens. You slipped something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But but I just had a tattoo
that's wanted to bring it up. That one hurt.
I know that one hurt. Now this, this actually don't
hurt. No, this didn't hurt.
Oh yeah, he was sweating. I've never seen him sweat that
much, ever. Can you OK so you guys said
y'all felt comfortable with being around straight people.
Can you tell us that dynamic? Like because I feel like I'm
curious how people, straight guys and gay guys.
I really feel like Neymar Butler, our best friend, is
straight. Shout out to the She also
produces some of our songs too. But what it's interesting, I
feel like Mirabella are very rare in a case when it comes to
like straight people. I feel like we don't we don't we
don't promote like, oh, be gay or like be like a certain way
towards them to make them feel uncomfortable.
They're the ones that be hella gay to us, though.
I'm like, yeah, but I feel like people respect me, Mirabella,
because we don't push like agenda or we don't push like,
oh, be gay, be comfortable around.
Yeah, 'cause we don't, we don't try to flirt with them and let,
I mean they be doing it to us, but like, I don't.
How to flirt? Do we have some like?
Did you saying gay? We'll.
Be saying to each other like. I fight.
It's like AI miss a bromance though.
Poppy, I understand both of y'all.
You thought you ate. My bad, my bad.
Corny, corny, corny. His mom is so bad.
Corny. Whatever.
Like, do you think that's how everybody is or?
Like what? Gay people.
Being friends, gay guys and straight guys being friends, do
you think? That's I think there's a good
dynamic though, like being straight guys and gay guys,
being friends. As long as they set a boundary
like I feel like. As long as they're not like.
So have you ever done too much? No, I feel like my friend.
My friend. That's who my friend came on to
you. What does he like you would.
You know, OK, here's the. Thing my friend.
Like my friend Paris. I feel like he's, he's.
Some something I would look for in a man like I feel it's so
irritating. It's like something.
So it's like edging you because. Straight men treat me like the
way he treats me is like how I want a man to treat me like.
Very basically like he always he's the one that reach out to
us. A lot, a lot of gay people don't
they they'll communicate and then like they'll like ghost
you. He's very consistent.
He'll always be like, I miss you guys, I miss you guys, I miss
you guys. No, like that's, that's a
straight man. It's like weird to see because
like he always constantly misses us.
I'm like, we're gay. How do you why do you miss us so
much? But he always says that he's not
gay, though, But but like he just he's very like he really
wants to be around our space. And it's like, why can't I find
out in a man? He, he.
Why? Why are gay people like this?
And like the well, like what? Do you mean like?
What do you mean? Like you said that they'll like
text and then disappear. Well.
I, I think, I, I think gay men have a lot of mental like things
they go through and they don't, I don't know, like we'll talk to
people and they just go. So like, I don't know, gay
people are just, I don't know. I don't.
I can't tell. So you guys have never both ever
been in like a long term relationship?
I I don't. Even know what you would call
it, I guess I have, yeah. I couldn't feel involved.
I have. I actually ended in like
January. So because very heartbroken.
No. At that point, no.
At that point, no, no. Hell no.
No, I was like I was. In the in the beginnings, like
it was a long process which should have been over, but like
when I was done, done, oh bitch, I was, oh bitch, I got that
U-Haul. Bitch, I was out.
Because usually when we having guests on, you know, we do ask
if they've ever been in a long term relationship and some of
their answers are, well, gay. Gay relationships don't last
past six months. So I feel like mine's only went.
It was good for two years. Oh yes.
And then after that it was like, whatever, 'cause I'm just that
person. Like we're Pisces.
So we're very loyal and we're very like, loving.
I'm loyal too, and loving, and you are.
Yeah. Are you really?
Actually, yeah. OK, stop smiling, 'cause you,
No, it's 'cause I know people don't believe me, but actually I
believe you. But but what I'm saying is like,
I'm loyal and like people aren't like that.
And so like after two years, we stopped having, we went a whole
year without. I'm like, no, thank you.
If you're not interested in me, what am I going to be a
roommate? Am I sleeping in the same bed?
What's the? Point no, actually.
It's not just about but like you want intimacy, but.
No, it's just one year. But how long did that
relationship last? Six years.
So in 2019. 20/18/2018. It's getting fresh on the
market. Not really, no.
But we weren't together while we were while I was living there.
I like pizza. Yeah.
No. Yeah, right.
What was that other question? I really.
Feel like it was a situation ship to me.
I feel like they were dating but they just didn't relationship so
I. Was like, I feel like it.
Was a relationship but it wasn't and he was a lot older too.
How were you? I've never been to in a
relationship, but I've been in a situation ship.
I feel like the person I talked, the guy I talked to, he was a
felon. He like literally went to jail
for killing for attempted murder.
I he was not he was buff. He was buff black really good
looking. I like all types of.
Men I was. To say what do you prefer, black
men or white? Men I prefer.
Black guys to be gotta be black and white.
I can be everybody. I.
Think I saw a clip of one of you guys were saying one of the ones
one of you guys likes white guys or something.
What? No, OK, OK.
I saw. So so so.
Oh, I do too. Yeah, you're saying that so we
like. And I did like a little reaction
when he when I said he like white people.
Was it that one people? That's what.
He said, Oh no, that's that's what I saw.
So we both like, we like all types.
We like white men, black men, Middle Eastern, Japanese.
All ties you like all ties. We don't.
Discriminate. Shout out to everybody.
I do need y'all to clip this because my thing is like we like
all ties but people always. Assume that we just like white
people like we've been getting like a lot of like we hang out
with our white friends. Sometimes they'd be like, oh,
you guys are just why you guys hanging out with white people?
I'm like, we like everybody like I don't discriminate if you so.
Like there'd. Be we'll get messages like
online, like you guys are, what do they call it?
White? No, not whitewash like we're
like. Snow bunnies.
I know they just talk. It's like we're against black
people. They're colorist.
They say we're colorist, color, color.
I think it's colorist. Like they say like we only, we
don't like our race or whatever, but that's not the case.
Also usually like, remember we told you we're tops, right?
Usually the people who the black guys are are into US.
One, we're usually not into 'cause they're like hella
feminine. I'm not into that.
And the other thing is like the black people are usually more
dominant. They can't be.
That's not going to work. I'm not submissive.
So most of the black people that hit us up, I'm not you're not.
That's no. So that's why people probably
don't see us with a lot of like by people, but I do have by
people I I'm with. Interesting.
You like what you like, man. Yeah, every time.
I literally like every type by everyone's free game.
But it's like I've been, I've been with by people, but I mean,
it's like. Son, your type is what?
Masculine bottoms. Yeah, our verse if I'm but from
a relationship or if I'm close to someone.
Like I don't mind bottoming if I'm really close to the person,
but like it's rare. Like if I bottom it'll be like
twice a year. You gotta meet our friend Kyle.
He's actually here. All right, how long are you guys
here? He.
Said Muscular. Why, why why why?
How to be Kyle OH. No, no muscular bottom, he said.
Is he gay? He's bi.
What does he look like? You show me.
Pimp out, Kyle. You guys show me real quick.
Well, I don't know where he's right now, but he's supposed.
To be here, He's Palm. Big bomb people.
No, but no, I would really want you to to like reiterate like I
like we like all types of people and it's just like usually like
the people this. Is him Mr. Jacobs?
Well, he is not. He's definitely.
Not my type, no Sir. It's OK.
He yeah, he's good looking.
That's fine. That's.
Fine, he's looking just definitely my type like I I do
like. I do like.
I I do he is he is a masculine, but I do like like I said, my
type is masculine. I like.
Can you show us a picture of
your type? Yeah, I will give my phone, but
yeah, like I really like my men masculine and it's nothing I
don't want people to think like, oh, oh, you don't like actually,
I like a hint of masculine and feminine.
Like I don't like when you're too masculine either.
Like I like you could be masculine but have a feminine.
Like a. Daddy like.
Yo. That's a daddy let me.
See. Yo, that's Mr. Johnny Sims.
Wait, that's somebody like. No, not yet.
But that's that's how I. Do though, OK.
Yeah, he's team. So what would you do with that
guy? Like, like if you were to just
like right now, be on some like, yo, here's what we're gonna do
tonight. Like you still.
Trying to really get these these people are gonna be on.
They'd be wanting to know this is y'all really like waking shit
up. Oh y'all like daddies and.
Shit, that was his man, Yeah. That was your man, you know.
It's hard to find by people like that.
Though. He like my cousin Carlos.
I'm gonna go. Live how far was it come my way
and. He's actually in there.
Wait. He wants you come my way, but
not like I. He was burst.
Wait, why didn't you guys not work?
Well. Well, I don't know.
I felt like he didn't have much going for himself.
And I wasn't. I was, I was fresh, a freshman
in college and he was like older than me already.
And he just, you know, he's like once people like sell and stuff
like that, just like I feel like I was providing, like I'm young,
like you supposed to be for you. Yeah.
Like I'll like be equal. Like, you know, like it's just I
thought he was. I just felt like he was using
me, even though he didn't say he was.
I just felt like it and. And all seriousness, though, I
think it's good that you guys are both single.
You guys get to go about focusing yourself and talent and
get to do things like this. You know, you guys are about to
perform tomorrow as well. So I think, I'm not saying if
you're in a relationship you can focus on that, but I think, you
know, it's really important to focus on yourself.
Yeah, never a bad thing. And I don't just go around just
like just the whole world, but like obviously I'm not gonna
just sit there and just like all my life either.
Like, and I like to build, like my brother said, we're in like a
situation like I like building connections with people and I
feel like, yeah, building connection isn't like, you know,
hooking up is better than just hooking up.
So and I just like focusing myself too, because I feel like
a lot of men. I just, I like I said, I'm very
loyal to the soil and I feel like a lot of men aren't like
that. So it's hard to find men that
are like for you do. You guys feel like?
You I have a question for you guys.
Do you guys feel like with the stuff like being a I'm?
Just not ready for. It bro.
You guys feel like as being like craters, right?
Like, I don't know everything that you guys do, but in this
field, do you feel like it's hard to like find genuine
connections with people like as like a, I don't know, do you
guys? Yeah, we do, y'all.
Don't we used to? But why?
Just stop. We stop because like, I feel
like don't take offense to this, but I feel like we have a talent
that I know it can go further and it's hard.
Like being a black male is really hard.
If you like try to that and and try to do music, no one's going
to take you serious. Like especially like they only
black people usually like as our core base, like they follow us.
They don't, they just like pull that out.
We don't go. You're going on stage.
So like I feel like it was like one of those things like we were
doing it. People were just like, that's
all they cared about. I don't and I don't.
I feel like I have talent like of.
Course, you know, and I think I think within that too it's.
Like I mean. If you're not now the time to
really achieve this. Yeah, and you?
Don't like in no shade to creators, but it's just like you
can't do that and step into like the entertainment industry.
They're not going to accept it. I feel like some people can get
away with that. I fight.
Females can get away with it more than men can.
But I noticed when when we were doing it, it didn't work in our
favour and we lost like brand deals and stuff for that.
So like I said, the money was. Good though, but I know y'all
know, yeah. We're here for a good time.
Yeah, but it's like I got a sacrifice that and I have to do
the harder route, which is fine, but I like it.
It's OK, The grind is good. Yeah, majority of my friends I
met through, through doing this, you know, I met a lot of friends
about the process. So I've only have positive
things to say, honestly. But I get your guys, 'cause you
guys really want to go about pursuing certain things.
And I feel like if that's what you want to focus on, gotta
focus on that first, you know? I feel like we wouldn't be in
the position we are now if we did it.
Like, I don't think we will be at this this part of it if we
did. So so it's working on.
Your own question now. Yeah.
For y'all, I've never I didn't realize that's what you you guys
done that. Do you guys do like imply and
stuff like what do you got to do?
Is that just exclusive? Like, no, it's cool.
Yeah. So I guess answer your first
question, the whole relationship thing.
I mean, I I don't think that we really care about being in one,
honestly. He's speaking for himself.
You wanna be in one right now? To be.
I could be in one, yeah. You want to, though?
Yeah. Me, I think I could do both.
I'm very good at both, you know, I could be single.
I'm very, very, very good at that.
And I'm also a really good boyfriend, so.
I love that. I think it's the right time, but
is it hard to find genuine? I just think you got to work on
that skill. That's a skill just like
anything else, you know? I feel like you always have that
internal thing, like, does this person really me?
I think that's a lot of reason why relationships don't work
too. Yeah, I just think people don't
vet people enough. Like you just think everybody's
no, you got to ask questions. Like you guys said, you guys
chase the connection so ask questions and you get your data
and your. Do you do?
Do you do we all? You.
No, but he he he only like books and shit.
Only. I don't do anything with other
people. Do you think you get a serious
relationship knowing that you do that though?
Like like all you guys, you guys think you.
Being a hoe is like hard. You gotta entertain all the
hoes. No right do.
You guys look at it like. Even though you guys do what you
do, you could still be in a relationship with like a.
Serious, one should be in a relationship with somebody that
supports you for being you. Why?
Why would you? I do not compromise being with
another person. No, and I love that.
Yeah. So I think no, it's not.
I think nobody should like change who they are like they
should. Whoever that you have to fit
into my life, don't don't enter it and try to sabotage it.
So that's why I feel like. Yeah.
And I think too, like people fall in love with the version
that they met and then once you get in a relationship, they
change. That's that's why they get in a
relationship. So you can't change.
You got to continue being yourself.
Why they get? Comfortable.
They don't get comfortable. Oh yeah, they do get
comfortable. And comfortable in the
relationship. But also too, I think a lot of
men, they don't know how to hold their frame, so they start
turning into a little bitch. So they're.
Just oh, he mad like. No, it's.
Just because it's true. Like I see it like, but it makes
sense because I could get really deep into this, but when you get
in a relationship, your drive and testosterone goes down, so
it makes sense why you. No, that is.
True, because because when you're single, you're on a hunt,
so your testosterone is up. That's why everybody's born.
Here though, when I'm with somebody though, I'm constantly
around the person now. Well.
Yeah, because you have constant stimulation, you could.
Whenever you want, that's true. But I'm talking about the hunt
of Yeah, your hunt is over. Yeah.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
We love doing what we do, and I'm assuming you guys do too.
The celebrity matters, that's true.
What time you guys get on tomorrow?
3:30. 330 damn it, you said how long?
It's actually 15 minutes. Oh, OK.
But what are? You good?
We're singing and dancing. You're bouncing.
No, we're, it's our original songs.
We're gonna be singing and dance like the early 2000s songs we
were talking about. Oh yeah, performing.
So one of our songs are out, it's called and he that one's.
A and he that's a good. Song it's a it's it's gonna be
Fire your name. Check it out.
Yeah, it's gonna be fire and he is out.
The next song is called So Hot and that comes out July 17th.
Did you do acapella? We oh, do A to it.
Yeah. OK, ready.
Wait is this in heat or no? So hot.
No. So hot 321 so high and
dangerous. My body.
Can you handle this? Be a boss and manage it Clock
in, do the work. You know I like that.
Take charge demanding it control.
Can you handle it? This energy.
Let's channel it. close off, get on top.
You know, I like that. Yeah, I.
Felt. It.
Yeah, no, it's gonna be fire. It's like so high and dangerous.
My body. Can you handle it?
Be a boss and man. Yeah.
Clock it and deal it working all I like.
Yeah. No, he's crazy.
And then and he. Everyone's gonna go crazy like
that. Actually, we have really good
crowd control. If you guys go, you'll see.
OK, cool. Awesome.
And then we'll be expecting y'all and a good performance.
Oh you it will. So for the Spelman twins, what
is the future looking like for you both?
Well, right now we're in our masters, we're graduating next
year. So whatever that social works,
we're trying to be licensed clinical social workers.
That's kind of like alternative path though, you know, like
'cause you know, some things don't last forever.
So like, I feel like education is important, but we performing
is our, our, it's funny. We've been performing a lot
more, which is cool. So I want to go on tour.
We want to collab with like Khalid and stuff like that.
And you're open for other artists, you know, So I think we
can do it. I know we can do it.
So I. Mean it stems from somewhere you
guys are performing so that's lit.
So five years from now, what do you guys see the the Spellman?
Twins. Oh, we're going to be on.
We're going to be on tour for sure.
Yeah. We're going to be, I think we'll
be a household name for our community for sure.
I feel like we're taking all the right steps, so.
I don't know if there's many twins out there that's.
We're going to be the mainstream ones because the music we make
is fire. I'm going.
To say what I just heard and saw.
That's be fire chess, yeah. Yeah.
I have a question for y'all. One more question before we
close it out. I'm pretty sure we're going.
To close out y'all can ask nobody ever really asked this
question so OK y'all totally Woody this is not like how we
but you guys are good at asking questions you know so.
That's the therapist in US. Yeah.
What? What do you guys see yourself in
five years? But where you guys see yourself?
Doing well. Damn, I'll be 31.
You be 31. Everyone.
Everyone in the room is laughing, Yeah. 32 No every 32.
Behind the camera, they're laughing.
Look, look, look. OK.
Oh, man. Five years, a long time.
You know, I think I got as far as I got by not thinking about
the future. But if I were to really be
honest. That's.
Crazy not be my man like if that was the case, I like my man to
have their future plan. If you tell me if we're on a
date and you say I just live day by day, blocked like you're done
but continue. Look, five years from now I see
myself being happy, healthy and still being the way that I am
right now and hopefully I'll out this hat.
So yeah, we'll see. We'll see what that takes us.
But but man, I don't know. Five years is kind of a long
time, but not really. I think the years going by it is
but I feel. Like when you I think you guys,
if you guys are making good money off what you do, I feel
like it's good, but I think people come to a burnout say so
my point, my thing is asking is like I feel like it's sounds
like a thing to like build something else.
I. Think, I think you can most
definitely do that. You know, I think, you know, if
you really want to think about like how you would use money,
money as a tool, you do whatever you want to do with it.
I think if you want to choose the investment route, obviously
continue to grow it like for long term.
I mean, what plan else do you need after that besides getting
your own house and getting a? Family, that's what I'm saying,
but that's what I. Think for me, I don't know.
I mean like sure, that could be that.
Do you want a? Do you want a house?
I don't know. I feel like you get rooted down
if you when you do that apparently like if you get a
house like you, you're just like stucked into that house.
So I I thought most is kind of scared to own a house now.
I think the only reason why I prefer living in an apartment is
just more so with. I love it, I love it.
The the maintenance, the amenities, like everything that
comes to it, I feel like it's just kind of like simple and
it's just like cool, I like it. But that's just me personally.
But like, I don't know, I don't have a definite answer yet.
Got you. But who knows?
And you'll be on stage dancing with Y'all Who?
Yeah. Come on, come on, stay.
Come on. Stay Sunday.
We're gonna. Be sweat, sweat, sweat, sweat.
Come on, that'll be late. I'm not.
Too Y'all are irritated I do not have a five year plan a whole
like 5 years to come up with. A dub.
I know, I'm trying to think. I don't know.
It's because it's because like life could change like a lot in
in what we're saying. I feel like it's like I.
Go year by year, OK, Because I think in, in, in LA like 3
months feels like a year. Yeah, that's true.
So five years, that's like not wait, yeah, that's like 15
years. No.
Whatever we're gonna be. So yeah I I take my my life in
like 3 month increments. OK, you know, so it's because
like I plan my life in five like 5 year increments, but like I
feel like it's so. The rest of this year, what is
on your plan? So the rest of the year is
performing and and working keep dropping music and music videos
and also getting ourselves connected, like collaborating
with people travelling in different States and getting our
music out there. But also like we're interning as
well for our school. I think it's going to be good
because. Like we hate working like I'm
going to be keeping a beam like. But we where I'm quitting my job
so we can work like three days a week.
So I can do this and know that we can do it.
I mean, we've been doing it like I don't need to do it, but, you
know, just keep building what we're doing.
Yeah, I don't know. I just think gather as much
experience in life as possible. I think I think that's the most
important thing that I could do. So if that's traveling, if
that's meeting people, if that's getting in a relationship, like
I just want to gain as much experience and then we'll figure
out. You be 25 and five years, by the
way. Right.
You know that's gonna be your prime years.
Old prime years. Yeah, 25 is like you're, you're
a baby. Trust.
Like when you're 25, you're gonna be so different.
Every six months you realize how stupid you were 6.
Months, you know, like I look back, I'm like, what the guy
doing? No, no, that's true.
Do you look at your old like 20 like 21 years ago cringy, I
thought, I don't look at myself now and I'm thinking I'm hella
cool and I'm gonna look back and like, damn, I was cringy like.
Exactly. But I just think everything
stems from where you're right now.
Yeah. You know, it kind of shapes you
on what you became years later, but that's pretty much that.
Where are you going to be in five years?
Or where am I going to be in fuck?
Well, I'll be I have an idea. But yeah, that's fine.
But I'm going to say this, I'm very future oriented person.
Love that you. Can be my man.
All these being around everyone here in this room, on screen,
behind the screen, they all kind of just live in the moments
where it kind of makes me want to be like that because I'm
always, I'm always in my head thinking about what, one year, 2
years, three or five year. But I'm going to be honest, I
feel like you end up getting more farther ahead just by
living the day-to-day. Yeah.
Like the all the mind games and that stuff, eventually it
doesn't actually lead to better results in real time.
I think the, I think the more you put in the work every day,
the better opportunities that can arise too.
So just I think you should have goals though.
Oh definitely. You know how goals definitely
can be like? I got my goals and then it's
like the best way to execute on the goals is to just live in the
day-to-day. Got you.
Love that. So where will I be?
I'm not sure but I just have a certain idea of OK.
I want to have X amount of investments, X amount of.
Blah blah blah blah. Blah that's good as long as you
have a goal. I thought this is a chance for
the the audience or your fans to get to know you guys too.
So I think I was asking questions was kind of helpful.
Do you guys I. Almost still be here.
Y'all can ask you more if you want five years later.
I don't know if you have any, I think you.
Guys will be here five years later, yeah.
That's to say, I mean we already done it for three.
Yeah, damn it. So if you would have asked us
when we started two more years? Oh yo, damn yo, when you think
about it, in two weeks that'll be one year of me.
I'm saying get it this whole time.
So it started with just us 2 and then he came in the mix midway
one year ago. One year ago actually, you said
what? In two weeks or two days?
Well, in July. In July, July. 7th or something?
Oh yeah. July is when I moved to LA, too.
Damn, that's crazy. No, July, like 3 years.
July three. Yeah.
We, we all, all of us moved in together.
Well, I moved in with them and then he kind of stayed with us.
I don't remember at what point, but yeah.
We all probably like I'm tired of them.
He look, he's like this over it, just like this, like I'm over
it. Yeah, no, we had a long night
last night for sure. Oh yeah, you guys were outside.
I went back. I was like, I'm good.
Barracuda this. Barracuda, invite us out next
time for. You I'm gonna send you guys some
stuff that y'all need to go to. I thought there's some there's
like a pink. A party too, like I think party,
yes, like a block party, Yeah, they were all you guys not pink
on. You guys might go get some pink.
Kind of pink, you're asking? Like pink, not your.
All right. Like it's a pink part, but it's
a lot of Vince. I'll send them to you.
You guys should go and like, interview people.
Oh yeah, yeah, I'll. Wear pink for that for sure,
yeah. Yeah, I don't think I have any
questions. I think I I asked an important
question that I wanted to ask that's.
Good. No, this is actually a amazing
podcast. I know, I told.
You energy for the room built up within.
The energy, yeah. Amazing.
OK, Hell yeah. Thank you all.
So much for people. I can't tell if y'all get
excited. Yeah.
So I don't know I. Was like, and yeah let's know
down below in the comments what y'all think.
Hey, it's coming twins. Thank y'all so much for coming
on the podcast field. This is amazing.
You guys obviously, of course, like I said multiple times, if I
haven't enough amazing energy, amazing twin brothers, you guys
are. Thank you and very talented.
Oh, actually I have my last. Question.
What's the question? I guess he has.
Why do you think that other twins are not close or like have
beef? Like I think a lot of twins beef
are they had they're not close because I feel like they feel
like they're always competing with each other.
I feel like they're always compared to each other and
sometimes we're like that too. I feel like people compare us to
lying. We start becoming competitive
with each other and some they despise that I have twins that
sorry. I have twins that were in high
school with us and they hated each other.
They were like I want to kill you.
I hate you. I hate that we get compared.
I'm like they want to kill each other.
So it was crazy. I also think it helps when like
when, you know, like you, this is the thing, we're twins, we're
gay. If you can build something
behind that, like like how we built our brand, like that's
powerful, you know, like why would I fight with someone I
could be have a partnership with?
Use. It to your advantage like don't
hate your twin, but it it has its downsides like we mentioned
in the beginning, but it's fun I I would I couldn't imagine going
my life without him and like I love it there we.
Go. But there's always pros and cons
to everything, you know? As long as the pros outweigh the
cons, that's all that. Matters.
Oh, it does for sure. Like being on stage together is
crazy. Like that's like who?
Like that's the best. What's your brother?
I know, right? Come on, what better partners?
And the crowd, the crowd all together.
Yeah, exactly so. Yeah, I mean, thank you.
I want to say thank you guys for having us on the podcast.
When you guys hit us up, I was really excited.
I was like, I was like, Oh yeah. So anytime you need us, we'll we
can, we'll be there. We ask, comes and I swear.
To God. OK, babe, I.
Swear. Well, that's the bed on the
interview, but yeah, them. All where can they find more of
you guys? So everything's spelled in twins
everywhere. So it's SPELLMANTWINZ not with a
S at the end AZ Spellman twins. So that's yeah.
So that's YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, so everywhere.
Spellman twins, Spotify, Spellman Twins as well.
Check our music out. We make good music.
If you guys are pop girlies, yeah, check out Spellman twins.
We're we got lit. Go check mine out the Brandon
cardoso.com from my socials and the link, you know, to find me.
Let's have a great conversation tonight.
See you there. Oh, if you guys want to message
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Peace.