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You said that a lot of the 
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Boys, a lot of guys do like big 
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want to like say it out public 
because they don't want their 

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friends to know that they be 
with a big boy behind closed 

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doors. 
Even big girls go through, they 

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like BBWS and stuff. 
They don't want everybody to 

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know. 
They like to keep it on a 

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download. 
Are you douche right now? 

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Yes, it's taking me a long time 
for. 

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Can you like a good three? 
Hours Can you walk us through 

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that How do you do that I. 
Get a douche machine. 

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But why does it take 3 hours? 
Because. 

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Sometimes you can get a false 
positive famous guys on my being

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like you'll be shocked, like who
hit me up, like the people that 

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hit me. 
Up have we know. 

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Them Have you done rappers? 
Oh my God, I had them the most. 

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What rapper has the best? 
I'm not going there. 

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Not hit me with that. 
Welcome to the wild. 

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Podcast, I'm Brandon Cardoso. 
I'm Diego and Barbosa. 

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And I'm Parker Reed. 
And guys, what a guest that we 

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have. 
Today, your favorite. 

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The favorites, you know, the 
fans been asking for it and he's

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finally here with us. 
We got Santana XXL. 

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Hi. 
Hello Santana. 

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Hey, I heard you just finished 
two collabs. 2 bottoming scenes 

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right before this. 
I did like I got busted down 

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like like literally like 1/2 an 
hour ago. 

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Half an hour. 
So are are you douche right now?

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Yes. 
Oh, wait. 

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Deuce and dangerous. 
How do you feel after doing 

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those two collapse I'm. 
Exhausted. 

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I'm tired. 
Of shit, I'm tired. 

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You look great for someone who 
bought them twice. 

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Oh my God, God. 
Like it's crazy. 

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The prep time. 
It's taking me a long time to 

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prep. 
Really like it take me a really 

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long time to prep. 
Can you like a good three hours?

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How? 
How can you walk us through 

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that? 
How do you do that? 

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I get a douche machine. 
But why does it take 3 hours? 

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Because sometimes you can get a 
false positive. 

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I'd be getting false positive 
sometimes. 

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You know what that. 
Means no I. 

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Don't know you're pregnant? 
No, it's like when you douche 

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and then the water come out. 
You think it's clear one minute 

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and then you go and douche again
and then it's brown, real brown.

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That's the false positive 
because you think you cleaned 

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out and water is not clear like 
you thought it was the first 

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time you got to do. 
It so you got to make sure you 

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got to make sure. 
Yes, I got to keep doing. 

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That's called a false positive. 
I see now. 

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Santana that's insane. 
So like we don't be trusting the

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machine then I. 
Don't know. 

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You got to keep doing it. 
Like some people they can just 

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douche one time and it'll be 
over. 

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But then some people they got it
takes them a little bit longer 

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and I'm one of them people that 
take a little bit longer. 

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So I like the hair. 
By the way. 

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Thank you, it looks real good. 
Take care. 

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Did you do it just for the 
award? 

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This is what I normally do have 
like my hair be blondest but 

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sometimes I like put some curly 
shit in there and make it curly 

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or whatever but I just started 
to rock. 

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The first Would you ever get 
dreads? 

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Hedge rays at one point, like 
years ago, I hedge rays, blonde 

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rays and everything. 
Oh, that's that's right, I. 

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Had the rest. 
Of years. 

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How come you don't? 
You don't match it with the the 

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beard. 
I think it's doing too much. 

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It's doing too much I. 
Think it's doing too much. 

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I like it to have it keep it 
black. 

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Got it, got it. 
I mean, it looks good 

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regardless, you know. 
So how is this AVS compared to 

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last year's? 
I mean, I've been, I got in 

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yesterday, so I got in last 
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So I really didn't have a chance
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So this is my first time coming 
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Hotel OK. 
So soon as I, the guy here like 

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fans was rushing to come take 
pictures with me and stuff like 

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that because you know, I'm on 
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So I'm on the screen and 
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stuff like that. 
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everybody just kept on coming up
to me and wanted to take 

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pictures and trying to stop me 
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And I was trying to get here, 
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the hotel. 
I had to run on this side to get

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to the the lobby and stuff. 
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run nowhere. 
So I'm like, Oh my God, let me 

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hear you. 
Because I didn't want to be late

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because I thought I was going to
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And then I got to race back my 
hotel. 

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I'm getting ready for the red 
carpet. 

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So like, I'm like Russian. 
Well, I want to say thank you 

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for making it and all the. 
Thank you for having. 

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Me. 
Yes. 

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Yes, thank you. 
No. 

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Seriously, we've been waiting 
for you all day. 

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All day. 
Not like waiting, but like I've 

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been waiting. 
For this one. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
You have no idea. 

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You know, it's very anticipated.
You know, everyone that is 

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watching who had watched the 
previous interview that we did 

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within last year wanted another 
one and here we are today. 

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Thank you for having me. 
I have one question for you, 

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Santana. 
Do you recognize my face? 

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I remember seeing you before 
last time I was here. 

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Do you recognize my face from 
LA? 

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Out in the room. 
Oh my God, bro, why are you 

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going to bring this up? 
No. 

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No, I was just wondering if you 
remember who was filming that 

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act. 
OK. 

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Yeah, because yeah, he used to 
be our cameraman and like now 

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he's actually on the podcast and
everything. 

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He he finally made a page and 
he's doing it. 

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Oh, you doing? 
Oh yeah, and I was afraid last 

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year. 
Yeah, I guess full time. 

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You convinced him after, you 
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I guess what I saw convinced me 
to do it. 

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Our clan made you want to do so.
You want to be my next plan? 

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According to Brandon you. 
Want to be my next player. 

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I played the first. 
He's better. 

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I don't know if he's ready 
because he's like. 

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I'm just going to say this, you 
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we're definitely going to get 
straight to all that for sure. 

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But do you have any nominations 
for? 

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I'm nominated for four awards 
this year, Best Bear, Best 

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Bottom, Best Independent 
Creator, and I'm missing another

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one. 
Yeah, but I won independent last

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year. 
I won two awards last year, so 

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we'll see if I win again. 
So within those, those awards 

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that you're nominated for, what 
one out of out of all those that

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you think you best categorize 
yourself in? 

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I'm independent creator and best
bear. 

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Really. 
Yeah, what about best? 

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I'm like in the category and 
best bear. 

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I'm like the only one that's 
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Real bear, a real big boy. 
So who were the other bears? 

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They're like many. 
They like muscle, like muscle. 

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They call themselves muscle 
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But in the bear community, a 
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me. 
But because there's not so many 

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guys that look like me, and 
that's why it makes me like the 

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real bear, because if you go on 
any bear events, all the boys 

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look like me. 
So the guys in the category, 

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they don't really look like me, 
you know what I mean? 

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So. 
Got. 

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It it'll just be like buff guys.
Yeah, yeah. 

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OK. 
Yeah. 

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And to anyone here you know who 
are meeting you within this 

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podcast for the first time, 
would you care to describe 

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yourself and tell the audience 
exactly who you are and what you

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do? 
I am Santana XXLI, am a star, a 

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content creator. 
I've been doing content for like

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a good eleven years now. 
Way before wasn't even a thing. 

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I've had 30 / 32 award 
nominations. 

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I've won four awards. 
And what are your plans for like

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2026? 
I want to do more shed like I 

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want do more studio. 
I want to, I want to pump out a 

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lot more content and this do 
shit that I always been doing, 

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but you know, I'm having fun 
with it too. 

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So still kicking it with the the
car scenes. 

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I still do the car scenes, I 
just I do different things now 

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than what I did before. 
Who's somebody that you want to 

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get busted down by? 
It don't matter. 

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It don't matter to me. 
I mean, like whoever, for me, 

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when it comes to like working 
with people, I want to work with

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a person that's the most 
confident and comfortable 

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working with me and that's 
comfortable working with a big 

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boy, you know? 
I think, I think it's easier 

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that way, you know, I feel like 
why? 

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Why work with someone that's 
like not all that you know what?

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I mean because sometimes some of
the performers that y'all see 

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like they don't say nothing out 
loud about big boy in public but

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behind closed doors they being 
your DMS. Can I do a video with 

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you and stuff and you'll be 
shocked on? 

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Who they want to. 
Yeah, like. 

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What they don't? 
Want it like you'll be shocked. 

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Like who? 
Who hit me up? 

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Like the people that hit me up. 
Like we know them. 

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure. 
I know I've had famous guys on 

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my DMS. And everything something
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Remember playing football? 
Players, do you partake in 

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those? 
Yeah. 

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You. 
Do, but you keep it 

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confidential. 
People don't know when people 

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don't know about me. 
I was before artists, so a 

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little bit before I got into 
like doing this. 

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A lot of people don't know that 
I could pay for what I do. 

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I don't do free. 
And, and, and you'd say within 

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the beginning of you doing well,
the content and being a part of 

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the industry was within the 
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It I mean, it was fun. 
I mean, I made a lot of money, 

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but doing doing concert was fun,
easier and everything else. 

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So that's what I like. 
Morris Oh, yeah. 

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You know, something I remember 
you saying in the podcast last 

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year, but was you said that a 
lot of the straight guys like 

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big boys. 
A lot of a lot of okay, so a lot

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of guys do like big boys, but 
there's, they don't want to like

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say it out public because they 
kind of like they don't want 

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their friends to know that 
they'd be fucking with a big boy

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behind closed doors. 
Even big girls go through that 

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like BBWS and stuff. 
Guys be in ADM's, guys be in our

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DMS and stuff like that. 
People be in our DMS, but they 

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don't want everybody to know 
like it's like they, they, they,

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they'll, they like to keep it on
a down low and like they'll hit 

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us up and like, oh, can we, I 
want to do this, this, that 

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third with you. 
Do you like DLS? 

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Do you like DLS? 
Yeah, it's cool. 

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I don't tell all my business. 
So it's like for me, if I fuck 

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with you, everybody don't have 
to know. 

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It's just what we do, what we 
do. 

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So you a secret keeper? 
Yeah, let's keep a secret. 

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OK, All right, Well, you never 
folded for nobody. 

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You never went on something 
like. 

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Hey by the way. 
Keep a secret, like if I fuck 

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with somebody, nobody don't got 
to know. 

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Even when it comes to basketball
players, boxers, celebrities. 

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Got it. 
OK, Wow. 

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Yeah. 
Well, when you're in this type 

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of business, like, well, you're 
in the this is an accountant, 

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This is it's it's always like a 
famous person in your DM 

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somewhere. 
True. 

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So, yeah. 
So it's fine. 

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Who's like your favorite type of
profession to be doing? 

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Like what you mean? 
Like do you prefer basketball 

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players than boxers or? 
Actors, Rappers, I. 

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Don't have a preference, it's 
it's all depends on who swing 

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the best. 
But have you done rappers? 

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Oh my God, I had them the most. 
Rappers are going crazy. 

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Musicians. 
Musicians, period, though. 

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For real. 
I've had boxers, I've had 

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football players. 
But nobody give out out the best

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like you can't say a category. 
Well, for me it's it's all 

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business for me. 
So I don't take, I don't take 

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none of this person or anything.
It's all business for. 

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Me, But do you enjoy it though? 
Like if you were to be real 

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though, right? 
Besides the busiest aspect. 

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Of it, of course I enjoyed it if
I didn't know when we doing. 

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It What rapper has the best? 
I'm not going there. 

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You're not. 
Hit me with that. 

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OK, so so that's work, but like 
personal, what do you like? 

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Like far is way. 
Like you said, you're talking to

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a couple of people like what's 
your type physically and. 

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Oh, for me, I would like people.
I like guys that are just 

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comfortable and confident. 
That's it. 

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Like for me, it's not so much on
a look or anything. 

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It's like can I like what you or
have? 

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I can deal with all sizes. 
You don't have to be a monster. 

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You don't have to have a monster
be. 

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Talking about that, have you 
ever went about collabing or 

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doing any type of content with 
another bear? 

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Oh yeah, I've filmed with other 
big boys before. 

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The only thing is though, when 
it comes, it's hard to find 

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other big boy creators sometimes
because there's not a lot, 

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there's not a lot of big boys 
that's comfortable with being on

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camera like that. 
And some people don't want to go

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through like the, the, the 
trolling because when you're a 

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bigger person, you in this 
business, you do get attacked a 

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lot, but from different people. 
That's true. 

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And some people don't want to go
through that. 

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They don't want to feel like I 
don't want to go through getting

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attacked or being trolled and 
stuff like that. 

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So that's some of the things you
have to deal with. 

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So, yeah. 
But I have worked with bigger 

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guys before, yeah. 
Interesting. 

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Yeah, I was just curious. 
I wasn't sure, you know, but I 

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mean, look, I was going to say 
this. 

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So, yeah. 
So Parker here had joined within

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under our wing here. 
He was our cameraman and editor.

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This man here is a virgin and 
got 10 inches. 

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You a virgin, but you doing? 
Yeah, he just does solo, solo. 

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Oh solo? 
How you like the solo style? 

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I like it. 
I like, I think it's just being 

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authentic, you know, true to 
myself. 

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But a lot of people want me to 
collab. 

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Do you want to collab? 
I don't think so. 

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What time? 
I don't think so. 

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No collabs for me. 
Oh, OK, he's still fresh and. 

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Brandon is trying to take the 
collab virginity. 

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I I still haven't even seen what
this man looks like with his 

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shirt off type shit. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like he's he's still brand new 
to all of us. 

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So it's kind of like, you know, 
but you know, I think, you know,

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he's doing good. 
You know, I, you know, 

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everything he got going on is 
he's. 

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Doing well, Brandon said. 
If you're down for Round 2. 

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OK, alright. 
Look, so, so yeah, I guess since

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OK, so we can we can bring that 
up. 

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So yeah, last time we had met, 
we did the podcast, but then of 

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course we ended up meeting in LA
back. 

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Yeah, we ended up meeting up 
again after our podcast to LA at

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your hotel room. 
And then we did a collab. 

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You know he hasn't done any we. 
Gotta change. 

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That how many months you been 
doing it or a year? 

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Has it been here nine months? 
Nine months. 

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We gotta change. 
That we gotta change that you. 

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Come to my hotel. 
There we go, recreate this time 

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I recorded you. 
Know what I mean? 

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You can sneak off after the 
awards and come over to my 

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hotel. 
I'll be ready. 

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With the awards. 
After the, After the. 

302
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I thought you were going to show
me an award like I'm going. 

303
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To go gamble guys, I'll be back 
and. 

304
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I'm not to antennas. 
You going to LA? 

305
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No, I'm going home. 
After this I'm going home. 

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I have 3 collabs tomorrow I'm 
collab. 

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What you got lined up for 
tomorrow? 

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I have 3 collabs, then the day 
after that I think I have 3 

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collabs. 
Wait, like all bottoming? 

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All bottoming some is just oral 
and then I'm here till like 

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Wednesday. 
Can we can you say any of the 

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names that you're doing? 
No, I don't want to. 

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I don't want to say right. 
Also, it's like that kind of 

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like a little C OK, but man, but
how do you like up keep all the 

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bottoming? 
Like there are some people that 

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wouldn't even do it. 
How do you just continue to do 

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it like four or five times a 
day? 

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Well, shit, normally I don't, 
but I wanted to get as much as I

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can in while I'm here. 
That's true. 

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But like, you know, I gotta do. 
I do what? 

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I gotta do this. 
This is work for me. 

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So, you know, yeah. 
I mean, gotta do what you gotta 

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do, you know? 
I'm saying you gotta take it. 

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You gotta take it, right? 
Shit. 

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And you over here now being 
awarded, Well, at least being 

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nominated. 
My bad. 4/4 to five awards, it 

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seems like it's always going up.
Do you think within now of of 

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this year you're making more now
than before or or is it still? 

329
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Been the same or I mean the 
opportunities are are way better

330
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than when they were like I would
say like 3 years ago like I'm 

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getting more offers and things 
like that and I enjoy it. 

332
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Like everything is going as good
as like the way I like it. 

333
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So yeah. 
So that matters. 

334
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And what made you choose over 
all the other studios? 

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Well, men, I was the only studio
that reached out to me like I 

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said before, in a gay world, 
like they don't really cast a 

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lot of bigger boys in in gay 
because they always they always 

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pick the popular choice and the 
popular choice a lot of times 

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are muscle guys or twins and 
stuff like that. 

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But they didn't. 
So they never really casted big 

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men and gay. 
But if you see straight, you see

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a lot of BBWS and studios and 
stuff like that. 

343
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But is the only studio right now
that's continually having bigger

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boys than. 
So, so shut up. 

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Man, so it's changing it in the 
way, but COM is the only studio 

346
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right now that's like moving to 
that direction. 

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And and when it comes to that, 
as you want to say, like the big

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boy category, is there anyone 
that you're currently competing 

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with, anyone that you're like? 
I don't compete with. 

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Santana XXL This is me. 
This person is not going to. 

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Get with. 
For me, for me, I don't see 

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competition. 
And my whole thing is if it's 

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other big boys and stuff, I'm 
happy for it because I want to 

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see something different than 
what I'm used to seeing. 

355
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And that's another thing, like 
you don't see a lot of big boys 

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and you don't even see a lot of 
big boy creators like that. 

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And to see it in the mainstream 
way, it's a beautiful thing 

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because it's something different
and people like different things

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and doesn't have to be the same 
type of people you see all the 

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time. 
Some people get bored with that,

361
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you know? 
So that's why it's a shift 

362
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happening now. 
So yeah. 

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Yeah, I mean, I guess that makes
sense. 

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I feel like once, you know, if 
you stamp yourself within the 

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way of like being like very. 
Because I would say that you 

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right now from me, my, my, you 
know, being on Twitter and 

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everything and seeing everyone, 
especially here, I would say you

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definitely like on top when it 
comes to the the creators 

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within, especially with like the
whole big boy scene for sure, 

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you know. 
Thank you. 

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I don't. 
I don't look at anything like a 

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competition. 
I'm just going to do what the 

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fuck I'm going to do. 
Like, I don't care what anybody 

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else do. 
I know what I'm going to do. 

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I know how I'm going to move. 
And that's just what it's going 

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to be. 
And if the people love me, 

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that's great. 
If they don't, oh, well, you 

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know, that's how I think about 
it. 

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Period. 
Yeah, that's. 

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How we do it? 
I like that. 

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How long do you think you're 
going to be doing a work? 

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Until I can't get make no money 
off of it no more, I'm going to 

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do it as long as I can make. 
My Oh, that's good to hear, 

384
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Yeah. 
That's good to hear Longevity. 

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And. 
Yeah, I see that. 

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I can see that. 
Yeah, somebody. 

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Else asked me that. 
I'm like, I'm not going nowhere.

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I'm going to keep doing it as 
long as I keep making. 

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My, I think at this point, 
right, I feel like you've 

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already given in to yourself and
everyone already knows who you 

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are and you know, Santana. 
So for tonight, the gay vans, 

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what is? 
But it's something you're 

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looking forward to tonight. 
Anything special? 

394
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What is drunk OK? 
What do you drink? 

395
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Crack. 
I'm I'm cranberry and vodka. 

396
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That's my drink. 
Vodka. 

397
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Got it. 
It's. 

398
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You said you're doing. 
I didn't. 

399
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I thought you were drunk. 
Oh no, he is trying to. 

400
00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,400
No, I said I was going to. 
Get drunk, not her. 

401
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Drink vom cranberry and vodka. 
Yeah, cranberry. 

402
00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,720
It's yeah, it's like a, it's 
like a balanced, like cranberry 

403
00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,280
and then like the vodka. 
Cranberry vodka. 

404
00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,440
Yeah. 
So you know it's. 

405
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Is it? 
Is it open bar tonight? 

406
00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:09,680
Yeah, I think it is open for 
real. 

407
00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,119
Hey, hey, so like if we you 
know, it's going to be a lot of 

408
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people if we somehow cross paths
down to take a shot at me, it's 

409
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on me. 
Then it comes open bar. 

410
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Well, I had a. 
Lot a lot of fun. 

411
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I'm glad you came pulled 
through. 

412
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I think this is the most fun, 
entertaining, funny podcast we 

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had today. 
It's over already. 

414
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Oh, I. 
Don't know. 

415
00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,120
I don't know if because I, I 
remember you said you got to run

416
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over to Yeah, I. 
Got to get the rest for the 

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record. 
I don't I know you're are you? 

418
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Going to put on. 
Time crunch. 

419
00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,880
No, I don't do suits. 
What, you put on a dress? 

420
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I'm just going to wear a nice 
fat or whatever and something 

421
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comfortable. 
I don't do suits I don't like. 

422
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I got big ass shoulders so I 
can't really have that. 

423
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Nice suits, yeah. 
Got it, Got it. 

424
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Suits don't feel good on us. 
We feel restricted, man. 

425
00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,120
Yeah, fuck suits, you know what 
I'm saying? 

426
00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,280
Yeah, fuck that. 
Shit fuck suits but do you still

427
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got some time or? 
I got a little bit. 

428
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Of fun, OK, just let us know 
when you got to go and shit. 

429
00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,480
I don't want to because, you 
know. 

430
00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,200
Take too much of your time, 
yeah. 

431
00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,840
But, but OK, so you're looking 
forward to the drinks tonight, 

432
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Anything else you're looking 
forward to tonight? 

433
00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:14,080
Anything, anything else, just I 
mean, you're nominated. 

434
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,160
You're not trying to win 
anything or. 

435
00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,280
What I mean, if I win, I'll win 
if I know and it's fine. 

436
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I went to last year, so I mean. 
I mean, imagine this third time 

437
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in a row, you know what I'm 
saying? 

438
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Stay on top of the table. 
Like shut up. 

439
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,040
Or you wait, so you're going to 
be in like, like, you know when 

440
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they're showing the the teams, 
you're going to be there in the 

441
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crowd or. 
I think. 

442
00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,160
So where are you going to be 
seated? 

443
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Either at timetable, I'll 
probably be sitting with Raheem 

444
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and all the rest of them. 
Have you ever collab with 

445
00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,080
Raheem? 
No, we've talked about collabing

446
00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,840
years ago. 
Never like years. 

447
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,800
A few years ago, yeah, a few 
years ago we talked about it. 

448
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We just never got around to it 
or anything like that. 

449
00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,840
But why do you? 
Think that. 

450
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Do you think he's scared of A? 
Big boy, I just no Raheem. 

451
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,880
I think Raheem was he, he's 
filmed with a big boy before. 

452
00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,200
I wasn't the only like, you 
know, he's filmed with another 

453
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,560
big boy in the past. 
We just our schedules like I. 

454
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,600
Think I figured it out. 
It's not of Raheem. 

455
00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,560
I think Santana scared of 
Raheem. 

456
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,520
I'm not scared. 
I know. 

457
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:11,880
Yeah. 
You're. 

458
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:13,800
I'm. 
I like a challenge. 

459
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,080
No, that's fine. 
I just. 

460
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,800
We just, we just never, we just 
never. 

461
00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,880
Our schedules never aligns. 
Yeah, maybe in the future. 

462
00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:22,840
He asked if I was out here. 
So hey. 

463
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,760
Hold on, but this is like the 
moment and the time to shine. 

464
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,160
You know what I mean? 
Now, would you count collabing 

465
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,600
with Raheem to be like a four 
collab in one night or what? 

466
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,040
Because that's kind of like, 
well, from what I. 

467
00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:33,920
Can't do that. 
That has to be a one day. 

468
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,720
That's what I'm saying. 
Because that's like a four 

469
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,080
collab. 
In one, yeah, it'll be a one day

470
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,920
thing. 
You said you were in a 

471
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,640
relationship within your 
previous relationship. 

472
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,480
How long were you in one for? 
I was in a relationship probably

473
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,080
for like a good five years, 
yeah. 

474
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,520
And I had dated a star in the 
past and stuff like. 

475
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,960
That. 
It's hard, but it's hard dating.

476
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,080
When you're in this business, 
though, like anybody that's 

477
00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:00,320
outside of the business, it's 
easier to date somebody that's 

478
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,360
inside the business, yeah. 
Because somebody said earlier 

479
00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:07,360
that they just wouldn't do 
relationships while they're 

480
00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,320
working just because they feel 
like it wouldn't work and. 

481
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,520
Yeah. 
It's, it's hard to have a 

482
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,320
relationship with you in this 
business, what anyone that's 

483
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,200
outside of this business anyway.
But if you're dating somebody in

484
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,360
this business, it's kind of 
easier 'cause they understand, 

485
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,600
yeah. 
That made. 

486
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:20,720
Yeah, that makes sense, 
actually. 

487
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,760
You know, in 2014, he was eight 
years old. 

488
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,320
Really. 
Well, I was. 

489
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:26,200
How old are? 
You. 

490
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,560
How do you? 
I'm 24, he's 25 and he's. 25-O 

491
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,840
y'all the same age as my 
brother. 

492
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,480
Pharrell, shout out, shout out, 
it's your brother. 

493
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,720
My brother's the same. 
Age we're really close shout out

494
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,800
he doesn't do this the so now. 
You're 10 years older. 

495
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,760
He play football. 
Yeah, damn. 

496
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,400
Like I have a sister too. 
They they're athletic though. 

497
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,560
They're really athletic. 
Shout out, but you're 10 years 

498
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,320
older than your brother. 
Well, something I think about is

499
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,200
I have a sister that's 10 years 
younger than me. 

500
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:51,760
How? 
How do you become? 

501
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,200
I feel like she's so young. 
She's like 10. 

502
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,480
You talking about from my 
brother? 

503
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,440
Yeah, like he's 10 years younger
than you. 

504
00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,760
So I. 
Mean he's the same age as them. 

505
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,560
But we, we, we grew up together.
We've been close on everything. 

506
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,560
So we just, we're just close. 
I guess just with. 

507
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,480
Time what? 
What is your current 

508
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,560
relationship right now with your
family? 

509
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,000
If you want me asking, it's a 
deep question. 

510
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,560
But it's good. 
My family loves me. 

511
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,760
I love, I'm really in love. 
And you know. 

512
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,480
They don't care that you are 
gay. 

513
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,640
They don't. 
Go fuck. 

514
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,360
They don't care. 
Like it's not a big thing. 

515
00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:22,160
I'm, I, there's gay people in my
family, so it's like it's not a 

516
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:22,520
big. 
Deal. 

517
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,800
OK, yeah, and I'm assuming it's 
not the brother. 

518
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,120
No, my brother is straight. 
OK, straight. 

519
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,040
OK, OK. 
Who in your family is gay? 

520
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,760
More so in my cousins than 
anything else. 

521
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:33,680
Oh shit. 
OK. 

522
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,960
So do you relate more to your 
cousins more so because of the 

523
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,360
fact or is it just like all 
around? 

524
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,520
I mean, we all get along, we do 
everything together and stuff 

525
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,800
like that. 
The hell yeah yeah, I know I 

526
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,080
think family and having that 
love and support from them is 

527
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,600
really important. 
You know, although for you it's 

528
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,080
like a whatever, I think it's a 
whatever for I mean most of us, 

529
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,040
I think it's like it's a very 
obvious support system yeah but 

530
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,160
a lot of people who are within 
the industry, I feel like a lot 

531
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,160
of their parents don't support. 
So I feel like that's where, you

532
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,600
know, it kind of stems from 
where it's like, OK, so I'm in 

533
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,160
the industry, I love doing what 
I do, but it's like my family 

534
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,800
don't support me. 
So it's kind of wishy washy 

535
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,640
there. 
So yeah, my. 

536
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,200
Parents, my parents support me, 
my dad support my dad, say I 

537
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,040
don't know what you're doing, so
whatever you're doing, keep on 

538
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,760
doing it. 
Shout out to my dad, say. 

539
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,040
Shout out man. 
Shout out you got that kind of 

540
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,440
support from your family, your 
parents or whatever. 

541
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,720
You can do anything in this 
world. 

542
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:18,320
I agree. 
That's true. 

543
00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:23,000
That's true. 
You're you're still gay, gay, 

544
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,520
gay. 
Not like, OK. 

545
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,040
So gay. 
I'm not buying it like. 

546
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,560
That OK, you never thought to 
dab in dabble in with like the 

547
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,000
makeup of everything Like it's 
more so just like a. 

548
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,720
What you mean? 
So like makeup with face makeup?

549
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,440
I was never seen without your 
sunglasses. 

550
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,840
I do do makeup. 
I do makeup here and there, but 

551
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,760
not all the time. 
Tonight. 

552
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,760
I might, I don't know, I 
haven't, I haven't made in my 

553
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,200
mind like it's one of them 
things, where do I want to wear 

554
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,080
makeup today or not? 
And you're because? 

555
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,080
I sweat a lot too so like I 
don't want that shit running 

556
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,360
down. 
And if you wearing white, white,

557
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,720
all that brown makeup coming in 
now. 

558
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000
And you're walking the red 
carpet tonight, right? 

559
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,720
Yeah. 
I got to get ready to get. 

560
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,760
Back yeah, because we're going 
to be doing interviews so we'll 

561
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,400
be looking out for you and. 
We'll. 

562
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:09,960
Do some more questions and all 
that. 

563
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,440
All right guys. 
Well, I hope you guys enjoyed 

564
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,640
that juicy, juicy episode with 
Santana juice. 

565
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,680
Like I said, make sure I check 
out the Patreon. 

566
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,280
Where can they find you one more
time? 

567
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:26,440
You can find me on Twitter, 
Santana XXLL LL3L's and I just 

568
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,480
hit a million followers. 
So hey, Congrats. 

569
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,240
Thank you so you can find me on 
those platforms and all my links

570
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,640
is there. 
My link is wild things dot VIP 

571
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,400
slash Julian for all my links. 
Mine is wild things dot VIP 

572
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,640
Brandon for all the socials and 
that link sub up baby see you 

573
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,920
there. 
And you can find my links at the

574
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,080
Parker read.com. 
Find everything there. 

575
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,360
And until next time, guys, peace
out.

