You said that a lot of the straight guys like big.
Boys, a lot of guys do like big boys, but there's they don't
want to like say it out public because they don't want their
friends to know that they be with a big boy behind closed
doors. Even big girls go through, they
like BBWS and stuff. They don't want everybody to
know. They like to keep it on a
download. Are you douche right now?
Yes, it's taking me a long time for.
Can you like a good three? Hours Can you walk us through
that How do you do that I. Get a douche machine.
But why does it take 3 hours? Because.
Sometimes you can get a false positive famous guys on my being
like you'll be shocked, like who hit me up, like the people that
hit me. Up have we know.
Them Have you done rappers? Oh my God, I had them the most.
What rapper has the best? I'm not going there.
Not hit me with that. Welcome to the wild.
Podcast, I'm Brandon Cardoso. I'm Diego and Barbosa.
And I'm Parker Reed. And guys, what a guest that we
have. Today, your favorite.
The favorites, you know, the fans been asking for it and he's
finally here with us. We got Santana XXL.
Hi. Hello Santana.
Hey, I heard you just finished two collabs. 2 bottoming scenes
right before this. I did like I got busted down
like like literally like 1/2 an hour ago.
Half an hour. So are are you douche right now?
Yes. Oh, wait.
Deuce and dangerous. How do you feel after doing
those two collapse I'm. Exhausted.
I'm tired. Of shit, I'm tired.
You look great for someone who bought them twice.
Oh my God, God. Like it's crazy.
The prep time. It's taking me a long time to
prep. Really like it take me a really
long time to prep. Can you like a good three hours?
How? How can you walk us through
that? How do you do that?
I get a douche machine. But why does it take 3 hours?
Because sometimes you can get a false positive.
I'd be getting false positive sometimes.
You know what that. Means no I.
Don't know you're pregnant? No, it's like when you douche
and then the water come out. You think it's clear one minute
and then you go and douche again and then it's brown, real brown.
That's the false positive because you think you cleaned
out and water is not clear like you thought it was the first
time you got to do. It so you got to make sure you
got to make sure. Yes, I got to keep doing.
That's called a false positive. I see now.
Santana that's insane. So like we don't be trusting the
machine then I. Don't know.
You got to keep doing it. Like some people they can just
douche one time and it'll be over.
But then some people they got it takes them a little bit longer
and I'm one of them people that take a little bit longer.
So I like the hair. By the way.
Thank you, it looks real good. Take care.
Did you do it just for the award?
This is what I normally do have like my hair be blondest but
sometimes I like put some curly shit in there and make it curly
or whatever but I just started to rock.
The first Would you ever get dreads?
Hedge rays at one point, like years ago, I hedge rays, blonde
rays and everything. Oh, that's that's right, I.
Had the rest. Of years.
How come you don't? You don't match it with the the
beard. I think it's doing too much.
It's doing too much I. Think it's doing too much.
I like it to have it keep it black.
Got it, got it. I mean, it looks good
regardless, you know. So how is this AVS compared to
last year's? I mean, I've been, I got in
yesterday, so I got in last night.
So I really didn't have a chance to do anything.
So this is my first time coming to the to the Hotel Virgin.
Hotel OK. So soon as I, the guy here like
fans was rushing to come take pictures with me and stuff like
that because you know, I'm on the promo board.
So I'm on the screen and everything for the promo and
stuff like that. So as soon as I got here, like
everybody just kept on coming up to me and wanted to take
pictures and trying to stop me and stuff like that.
And I was trying to get here, but I was on the other side of
the hotel. I had to run on this side to get
to the the lobby and stuff. And you know, I don't like to
run nowhere. So I'm like, Oh my God, let me
hear you. Because I didn't want to be late
because I thought I was going to be late.
And then I got to race back my hotel.
I'm getting ready for the red carpet.
So like, I'm like Russian. Well, I want to say thank you
for making it and all the. Thank you for having.
Me. Yes.
Yes, thank you. No.
Seriously, we've been waiting for you all day.
All day. Not like waiting, but like I've
been waiting. For this one.
Yeah, yeah. You have no idea.
You know, it's very anticipated. You know, everyone that is
watching who had watched the previous interview that we did
within last year wanted another one and here we are today.
Thank you for having me. I have one question for you,
Santana. Do you recognize my face?
I remember seeing you before last time I was here.
Do you recognize my face from LA?
Out in the room. Oh my God, bro, why are you
going to bring this up? No.
No, I was just wondering if you remember who was filming that
act. OK.
Yeah, because yeah, he used to be our cameraman and like now
he's actually on the podcast and everything.
He he finally made a page and he's doing it.
Oh, you doing? Oh yeah, and I was afraid last
year. Yeah, I guess full time.
You convinced him after, you know.
I guess what I saw convinced me to do it.
Our clan made you want to do so. You want to be my next plan?
According to Brandon you. Want to be my next player.
I played the first. He's better.
I don't know if he's ready because he's like.
I'm just going to say this, you know, within this episode here,
we're definitely going to get straight to all that for sure.
But do you have any nominations for?
I'm nominated for four awards this year, Best Bear, Best
Bottom, Best Independent Creator, and I'm missing another
one. Yeah, but I won independent last
year. I won two awards last year, so
we'll see if I win again. So within those, those awards
that you're nominated for, what one out of out of all those that
you think you best categorize yourself in?
I'm independent creator and best bear.
Really. Yeah, what about best?
I'm like in the category and best bear.
I'm like the only one that's like, really a bear.
Real bear, a real big boy. So who were the other bears?
They're like many. They like muscle, like muscle.
They call themselves muscle bears.
But in the bear community, a bear is somebody that look like
me. But because there's not so many
guys that look like me, and that's why it makes me like the
real bear, because if you go on any bear events, all the boys
look like me. So the guys in the category,
they don't really look like me, you know what I mean?
So. Got.
It it'll just be like buff guys. Yeah, yeah.
OK. Yeah.
And to anyone here you know who are meeting you within this
podcast for the first time, would you care to describe
yourself and tell the audience exactly who you are and what you
do? I am Santana XXLI, am a star, a
content creator. I've been doing content for like
a good eleven years now. Way before wasn't even a thing.
I've had 30 / 32 award nominations.
I've won four awards. And what are your plans for like
2026? I want to do more shed like I
want do more studio. I want to, I want to pump out a
lot more content and this do shit that I always been doing,
but you know, I'm having fun with it too.
So still kicking it with the the car scenes.
I still do the car scenes, I just I do different things now
than what I did before. Who's somebody that you want to
get busted down by? It don't matter.
It don't matter to me. I mean, like whoever, for me,
when it comes to like working with people, I want to work with
a person that's the most confident and comfortable
working with me and that's comfortable working with a big
boy, you know? I think, I think it's easier
that way, you know, I feel like why?
Why work with someone that's like not all that you know what?
I mean because sometimes some of the performers that y'all see
like they don't say nothing out loud about big boy in public but
behind closed doors they being your DMS. Can I do a video with
you and stuff and you'll be shocked on?
Who they want to. Yeah, like.
What they don't? Want it like you'll be shocked.
Like who? Who hit me up?
Like the people that hit me up. Like we know them.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I know I've had famous guys on
my DMS. And everything something I.
Remember playing football? Players, do you partake in
those? Yeah.
You. Do, but you keep it
confidential. People don't know when people
don't know about me. I was before artists, so a
little bit before I got into like doing this.
A lot of people don't know that I could pay for what I do.
I don't do free. And, and, and you'd say within
the beginning of you doing well, the content and being a part of
the industry was within the aspect of.
It I mean, it was fun. I mean, I made a lot of money,
but doing doing concert was fun, easier and everything else.
So that's what I like. Morris Oh, yeah.
You know, something I remember you saying in the podcast last
year, but was you said that a lot of the straight guys like
big boys. A lot of a lot of okay, so a lot
of guys do like big boys, but there's, they don't want to like
say it out public because they kind of like they don't want
their friends to know that they'd be fucking with a big boy
behind closed doors. Even big girls go through that
like BBWS and stuff. Guys be in ADM's, guys be in our
DMS and stuff like that. People be in our DMS, but they
don't want everybody to know like it's like they, they, they,
they'll, they like to keep it on a down low and like they'll hit
us up and like, oh, can we, I want to do this, this, that
third with you. Do you like DLS?
Yeah, it's cool.
I don't tell all my business. So it's like for me, if I fuck
with you, everybody don't have to know.
It's just what we do, what we do.
So you a secret keeper? Yeah, let's keep a secret.
OK, All right, Well, you never folded for nobody.
You never went on something like.
Hey by the way. Keep a secret, like if I fuck
with somebody, nobody don't got to know.
Even when it comes to basketball players, boxers, celebrities.
Got it. OK, Wow.
Yeah. Well, when you're in this type
of business, like, well, you're in the this is an accountant,
This is it's it's always like a famous person in your DM
somewhere. True.
So, yeah. So it's fine.
Who's like your favorite type of profession to be doing?
Like what you mean? Like do you prefer basketball
players than boxers or? Actors, Rappers, I.
Don't have a preference, it's it's all depends on who swing
the best. But have you done rappers?
Oh my God, I had them the most. Rappers are going crazy.
Musicians. Musicians, period, though.
For real. I've had boxers, I've had
football players. But nobody give out out the best
like you can't say a category. Well, for me it's it's all
business for me. So I don't take, I don't take
none of this person or anything. It's all business for.
Me, But do you enjoy it though? Like if you were to be real
though, right? Besides the busiest aspect.
Of it, of course I enjoyed it if I didn't know when we doing.
It What rapper has the best? I'm not going there.
You're not. Hit me with that.
OK, so so that's work, but like personal, what do you like?
Like far is way. Like you said, you're talking to
a couple of people like what's your type physically and.
Oh, for me, I would like people. I like guys that are just
comfortable and confident. That's it.
Like for me, it's not so much on a look or anything.
It's like can I like what you or have?
I can deal with all sizes. You don't have to be a monster.
You don't have to have a monster be.
Talking about that, have you ever went about collabing or
doing any type of content with another bear?
Oh yeah, I've filmed with other big boys before.
The only thing is though, when it comes, it's hard to find
other big boy creators sometimes because there's not a lot,
there's not a lot of big boys that's comfortable with being on
camera like that. And some people don't want to go
through like the, the, the trolling because when you're a
bigger person, you in this business, you do get attacked a
lot, but from different people. That's true.
And some people don't want to go through that.
They don't want to feel like I don't want to go through getting
attacked or being trolled and stuff like that.
So that's some of the things you have to deal with.
So, yeah. But I have worked with bigger
guys before, yeah. Interesting.
Yeah, I was just curious. I wasn't sure, you know, but I
mean, look, I was going to say this.
So, yeah. So Parker here had joined within
under our wing here. He was our cameraman and editor.
This man here is a virgin and got 10 inches.
You a virgin, but you doing? Yeah, he just does solo, solo.
Oh solo? How you like the solo style?
I like it. I like, I think it's just being
authentic, you know, true to myself.
But a lot of people want me to collab.
Do you want to collab? I don't think so.
What time? I don't think so.
No collabs for me. Oh, OK, he's still fresh and.
Brandon is trying to take the collab virginity.
I I still haven't even seen what this man looks like with his
shirt off type shit. You know what I mean?
Like he's he's still brand new to all of us.
So it's kind of like, you know, but you know, I think, you know,
he's doing good. You know, I, you know,
everything he got going on is he's.
Doing well, Brandon said. If you're down for Round 2.
OK, alright. Look, so, so yeah, I guess since
OK, so we can we can bring that up.
So yeah, last time we had met, we did the podcast, but then of
course we ended up meeting in LA back.
Yeah, we ended up meeting up again after our podcast to LA at
your hotel room. And then we did a collab.
You know he hasn't done any we. Gotta change.
That how many months you been doing it or a year?
Has it been here nine months? Nine months.
We gotta change. That we gotta change that you.
Come to my hotel. There we go, recreate this time
I recorded you. Know what I mean?
You can sneak off after the awards and come over to my
hotel. I'll be ready.
With the awards. After the, After the.
I thought you were going to show me an award like I'm going.
To go gamble guys, I'll be back and.
I'm not to antennas. You going to LA?
No, I'm going home. After this I'm going home.
I have 3 collabs tomorrow I'm collab.
What you got lined up for tomorrow?
I have 3 collabs, then the day after that I think I have 3
collabs. Wait, like all bottoming?
All bottoming some is just oral and then I'm here till like
Wednesday. Can we can you say any of the
names that you're doing? No, I don't want to.
I don't want to say right. Also, it's like that kind of
like a little C OK, but man, but how do you like up keep all the
bottoming? Like there are some people that
wouldn't even do it. How do you just continue to do
it like four or five times a day?
Well, shit, normally I don't, but I wanted to get as much as I
can in while I'm here. That's true.
But like, you know, I gotta do. I do what?
I gotta do this. This is work for me.
So, you know, yeah. I mean, gotta do what you gotta
do, you know? I'm saying you gotta take it.
You gotta take it, right? Shit.
And you over here now being awarded, Well, at least being
nominated. My bad. 4/4 to five awards, it
seems like it's always going up. Do you think within now of of
this year you're making more now than before or or is it still?
Been the same or I mean the opportunities are are way better
than when they were like I would say like 3 years ago like I'm
getting more offers and things like that and I enjoy it.
Like everything is going as good as like the way I like it.
So yeah. So that matters.
And what made you choose over all the other studios?
Well, men, I was the only studio that reached out to me like I
said before, in a gay world, like they don't really cast a
lot of bigger boys in in gay because they always they always
pick the popular choice and the popular choice a lot of times
are muscle guys or twins and stuff like that.
But they didn't. So they never really casted big
men and gay. But if you see straight, you see
a lot of BBWS and studios and stuff like that.
But is the only studio right now that's continually having bigger
boys than. So, so shut up.
Man, so it's changing it in the way, but COM is the only studio
right now that's like moving to that direction.
And and when it comes to that, as you want to say, like the big
boy category, is there anyone that you're currently competing
with, anyone that you're like? I don't compete with.
Santana XXL This is me. This person is not going to.
Get with. For me, for me, I don't see
competition. And my whole thing is if it's
other big boys and stuff, I'm happy for it because I want to
see something different than what I'm used to seeing.
And that's another thing, like you don't see a lot of big boys
and you don't even see a lot of big boy creators like that.
And to see it in the mainstream way, it's a beautiful thing
because it's something different and people like different things
and doesn't have to be the same type of people you see all the
time. Some people get bored with that,
you know? So that's why it's a shift
happening now. So yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I guess that makes sense.
I feel like once, you know, if you stamp yourself within the
way of like being like very. Because I would say that you
right now from me, my, my, you know, being on Twitter and
everything and seeing everyone, especially here, I would say you
definitely like on top when it comes to the the creators
within, especially with like the whole big boy scene for sure,
you know. Thank you.
I don't. I don't look at anything like a
competition. I'm just going to do what the
fuck I'm going to do. Like, I don't care what anybody
else do. I know what I'm going to do.
I know how I'm going to move. And that's just what it's going
to be. And if the people love me,
that's great. If they don't, oh, well, you
know, that's how I think about it.
Period. Yeah, that's.
How we do it? I like that.
How long do you think you're going to be doing a work?
Until I can't get make no money off of it no more, I'm going to
do it as long as I can make. My Oh, that's good to hear,
Yeah. That's good to hear Longevity.
And. Yeah, I see that.
I can see that. Yeah, somebody.
Else asked me that. I'm like, I'm not going nowhere.
I'm going to keep doing it as long as I keep making.
My, I think at this point, right, I feel like you've
already given in to yourself and everyone already knows who you
are and you know, Santana. So for tonight, the gay vans,
what is? But it's something you're
looking forward to tonight. Anything special?
What is drunk OK? What do you drink?
Crack. I'm I'm cranberry and vodka.
That's my drink. Vodka.
Got it. It's.
You said you're doing. I didn't.
I thought you were drunk. Oh no, he is trying to.
No, I said I was going to. Get drunk, not her.
Drink vom cranberry and vodka. Yeah, cranberry.
It's yeah, it's like a, it's like a balanced, like cranberry
and then like the vodka. Cranberry vodka.
Yeah. So you know it's.
Is it? Is it open bar tonight?
Yeah, I think it is open for real.
Hey, hey, so like if we you know, it's going to be a lot of
people if we somehow cross paths down to take a shot at me, it's
on me. Then it comes open bar.
Well, I had a. Lot a lot of fun.
I'm glad you came pulled through.
I think this is the most fun, entertaining, funny podcast we
had today. It's over already.
Oh, I. Don't know.
I don't know if because I, I remember you said you got to run
over to Yeah, I. Got to get the rest for the
record. I don't I know you're are you?
Going to put on. Time crunch.
No, I don't do suits. What, you put on a dress?
I'm just going to wear a nice fat or whatever and something
comfortable. I don't do suits I don't like.
I got big ass shoulders so I can't really have that.
Nice suits, yeah. Got it, Got it.
Suits don't feel good on us. We feel restricted, man.
Yeah, fuck suits, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, fuck that. Shit fuck suits but do you still
got some time or? I got a little bit.
Of fun, OK, just let us know when you got to go and shit.
I don't want to because, you know.
Take too much of your time, yeah.
But, but OK, so you're looking forward to the drinks tonight,
Anything else you're looking forward to tonight?
Anything, anything else, just I mean, you're nominated.
You're not trying to win anything or.
What I mean, if I win, I'll win if I know and it's fine.
I went to last year, so I mean. I mean, imagine this third time
in a row, you know what I'm saying?
Stay on top of the table. Like shut up.
Or you wait, so you're going to be in like, like, you know when
they're showing the the teams, you're going to be there in the
crowd or. I think.
So where are you going to be seated?
Either at timetable, I'll probably be sitting with Raheem
and all the rest of them. Have you ever collab with
Raheem? No, we've talked about collabing
years ago. Never like years.
A few years ago, yeah, a few years ago we talked about it.
We just never got around to it or anything like that.
But why do you? Think that.
Do you think he's scared of A? Big boy, I just no Raheem.
I think Raheem was he, he's filmed with a big boy before.
I wasn't the only like, you know, he's filmed with another
big boy in the past. We just our schedules like I.
Think I figured it out. It's not of Raheem.
I think Santana scared of Raheem.
I'm not scared. I know.
Yeah. You're.
I'm. I like a challenge.
No, that's fine. I just.
We just, we just never, we just never.
Our schedules never aligns. Yeah, maybe in the future.
He asked if I was out here. So hey.
Hold on, but this is like the moment and the time to shine.
You know what I mean? Now, would you count collabing
with Raheem to be like a four collab in one night or what?
Because that's kind of like, well, from what I.
Can't do that. That has to be a one day.
That's what I'm saying. Because that's like a four
collab. In one, yeah, it'll be a one day
thing. You said you were in a
relationship within your previous relationship.
How long were you in one for? I was in a relationship probably
for like a good five years, yeah.
And I had dated a star in the past and stuff like.
That. It's hard, but it's hard dating.
When you're in this business, though, like anybody that's
outside of the business, it's easier to date somebody that's
inside the business, yeah. Because somebody said earlier
that they just wouldn't do relationships while they're
working just because they feel like it wouldn't work and.
Yeah. It's, it's hard to have a
relationship with you in this business, what anyone that's
outside of this business anyway. But if you're dating somebody in
this business, it's kind of easier 'cause they understand,
yeah. That made.
Yeah, that makes sense, actually.
You know, in 2014, he was eight years old.
Really. Well, I was.
How old are? You.
How do you? I'm 24, he's 25 and he's. 25-O
y'all the same age as my brother.
Pharrell, shout out, shout out, it's your brother.
My brother's the same. Age we're really close shout out
he doesn't do this the so now. You're 10 years older.
He play football. Yeah, damn.
Like I have a sister too. They they're athletic though.
They're really athletic. Shout out, but you're 10 years
older than your brother. Well, something I think about is
I have a sister that's 10 years younger than me.
How? How do you become?
I feel like she's so young. She's like 10.
You talking about from my brother?
Yeah, like he's 10 years younger than you.
So I. Mean he's the same age as them.
But we, we, we grew up together. We've been close on everything.
So we just, we're just close. I guess just with.
Time what? What is your current
relationship right now with your family?
If you want me asking, it's a deep question.
But it's good. My family loves me.
I love, I'm really in love. And you know.
They don't care that you are gay.
They don't. Go fuck.
They don't care. Like it's not a big thing.
I'm, I, there's gay people in my family, so it's like it's not a
big. Deal.
OK, yeah, and I'm assuming it's not the brother.
No, my brother is straight. OK, straight.
OK, OK. Who in your family is gay?
More so in my cousins than anything else.
Oh shit. OK.
So do you relate more to your cousins more so because of the
fact or is it just like all around?
I mean, we all get along, we do everything together and stuff
like that. The hell yeah yeah, I know I
think family and having that love and support from them is
really important. You know, although for you it's
like a whatever, I think it's a whatever for I mean most of us,
I think it's like it's a very obvious support system yeah but
a lot of people who are within the industry, I feel like a lot
of their parents don't support. So I feel like that's where, you
know, it kind of stems from where it's like, OK, so I'm in
the industry, I love doing what I do, but it's like my family
don't support me. So it's kind of wishy washy
there. So yeah, my.
Parents, my parents support me, my dad support my dad, say I
don't know what you're doing, so whatever you're doing, keep on
doing it. Shout out to my dad, say.
Shout out man. Shout out you got that kind of
support from your family, your parents or whatever.
You can do anything in this world.
I agree. That's true.
You're you're still gay, gay,
gay. Not like, OK.
So gay. I'm not buying it like.
That OK, you never thought to dab in dabble in with like the
makeup of everything Like it's more so just like a.
What you mean? So like makeup with face makeup?
I was never seen without your sunglasses.
I do do makeup. I do makeup here and there, but
not all the time. Tonight.
I might, I don't know, I haven't, I haven't made in my
mind like it's one of them things, where do I want to wear
makeup today or not? And you're because?
I sweat a lot too so like I don't want that shit running
down. And if you wearing white, white,
all that brown makeup coming in now.
And you're walking the red carpet tonight, right?
Yeah. I got to get ready to get.
Back yeah, because we're going to be doing interviews so we'll
be looking out for you and. We'll.
Do some more questions and all that.
All right guys. Well, I hope you guys enjoyed
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