1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,160 What got you ready to then? Having to be open and 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,840 comfortable to show the world who Dre truly. 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,200 Is I just woke up one day and I was like, I don't want to be 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,720 dealing anymore. I just want to like, you know, 5 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,800 be open. How common do you say DL men 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,840 are? It's a lot of DL men, but since 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,200 they don't have safe spaces, they don't want to come out. 8 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,920 They rather go to the grave because they're scared of the 9 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,040 reputation what might happen. I mean being DL this is in these 10 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,280 times and age is really like crazy. 11 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,400 Is it possible to be straight for like 20 years and then 12 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,960 realize that you're into guys? Yeah, you could be straight for 13 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,320 20 years because it's like, you'll get nervous like you want 14 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:33,880 to do with a guy, but you get nervous. 15 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,680 You're not DL anymore though. No, no, I'm not DL anymore, no. 16 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,240 Is it really DL if you say you're DL to the public? 17 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,400 No, it's like you're out. Most DL men today, they usually 18 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,080 have wife and kids. Really. 19 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,760 A lot of people think we're DL. Do you feel like you DL? 20 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,720 DL or not Kyle Jacobs he overly gone but. 21 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,320 Julian Barboza DL or not DL, what do you think? 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,920 Welcome to the Wild Podcast. I'm Brandon Cardoso. 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,720 I'm D Julian Barboza. Bro. 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,640 Why You're not Julian, bro? Brian, Julian. 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,400 Bro Oh. Well, I've forgotten I'm Parker, 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,520 but it is Julian's birthday. It it is Julian's birthday, 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,400 guys, as we're filming this episode, it is Mr. Barboza's 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,120 birthday. It's 25th birthday. 20 bro 25 Do 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,080 you Remember Me? I remember being 25 man. 30 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,560 Yeah, it's 10 years ago, right? This fucking guy. 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,280 Look, I'm just going to say this as you know what, Let's call it 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,640 Julian. Actually, it was just FaceTime. 33 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,560 I, you know, I did text him and I texted him last night at 34 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,160 midnight wishing him a nice happy birthday. 35 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,000 Send him a nice, pretty, pretty nice paragraph. 36 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,520 But we'll see if oh Julian. Happy birthday to you. 37 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:54,160 Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, Dear Julian, 38 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,720 happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. 39 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,400 To you. We're in the podcast right now. 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,680 I want to wish you a happy birthday. 41 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,000 Hope everything's, you know, treating you right so far. 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,920 How was your morning? Or is it still morning for you? 43 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,520 Yeah, it's morning. Oh, you slept great. 44 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:11,600 You know, I got some tacos. I'm on the way headed to the 45 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:14,560 pool party right now. Wow, so you already said it. 46 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,920 You're already starting your birthday early. 47 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,120 Yeah. The festivities. 48 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,640 Yes, the festivities are starting earlier in the day. 49 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,920 There we go, man. There you go, beautiful. 50 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:26,520 I want to. Say thank you, fella. 51 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,000 I appreciate, you know, from across the globe, you know, a 52 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,040 birthday. I really do. 53 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:34,560 Of course, man. And just want to say that Parker 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,840 and I both have a really big gift for you when you come home. 55 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:40,520 Yeah, we have something very big. 56 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,160 OK, man. Well, I know you guys are the 57 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,520 big boys, so, you know, look, I don't. 58 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,880 I don't doubt it. Look, we doesn't want to ruin 59 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,120 any surprises. Hey man, Hey, you enjoy the rest 60 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,480 of your birthday man. Today is your day you know, and 61 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,520 I really hope you continue to enjoy as you should. 62 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,200 And 25 looks good on you my man. I'm telling you, it looks good. 63 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,840 Thank you man, I appreciate it of course. 64 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,760 Just 25 years of Julia not being a father yet, you know. 65 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,760 Hey, man, that's the big, big important one. 66 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,480 Hey, look, 25, I'm not going to say nothing. 67 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,240 I'm not going to manifest it, but I just want to say this, 68 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,200 man, you are 1/4 of a century away to 100 years old, hey. 69 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,160 Sounds great man. I'm I'm, I'm happy. 70 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,720 More alive to live, but all right, man, well, look, have a 71 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,480 great rest of your day. We don't want to interrupt, you 72 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,120 know the joy and Barbosa day, but just know today's your day. 73 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,120 Enjoy how you always will. Lee, you. 74 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,040 Guys you have fun. Good luck and see you guys. 75 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,040 I hope there's some videos. I'll take some videos for your. 76 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,560 Partner. Yeah, you need to sell them you 77 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,240 know I need to pay my bills. I. 78 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,200 Got you man. I'll show you some videos and. 79 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,400 Stuff. All right bro, I'm trying to 80 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,480 take notes. He wants to. 81 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,200 He wants to learn, man. He wants to learn. 82 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,200 But I got you. Yeah. 83 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,800 All right, man. Well, look, we don't want to 84 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,200 take much over your your day. So you go about having an 85 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,480 amazing day and we'll see you home all. 86 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,920 Right I'll. See you guys. 87 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:00,840 I'll see you. Well, happy birthday, Jillian. 88 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,280 Happy birthday to the man 25. Holy shit. 89 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,400 As we are here in Miami, OK, we have an amazing guest. 90 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,400 I would say this is probably one of the first DL guests. 91 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,120 We've been talking about DLS for a long time, but I think this is 92 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,800 the first real DL we've had on the podcast. 93 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:19,800 No, it is true, man. That is true. 94 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,240 I think this guest is really going to go about telling his 95 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,520 side of the story, you know, getting to know him a bit, you 96 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,600 know, getting to really dig a nice deep hole, You know what I 97 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,440 mean with his guest. I don't know what that means, 98 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,320 but. Oh, I didn't mean it. 99 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:33,920 I I meant like we're going to get to know him. 100 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,160 OK, Yeah. OK, well, can you? 101 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,240 Do the honors of introducing him. 102 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,080 Yeah, but I mean before. Hold on. 103 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,840 I'm intimidated. Well, no, OK, my bad. 104 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:43,960 I didn't mean to. OK, so I'm going to say this. 105 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,920 So I got introduced right to this amazing guest that we have 106 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,600 on today because, well, first of all, you, you found him on on 107 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,680 your feed. Yeah, I I saw him on my feed. 108 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,760 He had like ADL series talking about DL, like just a bunch of 109 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,920 crazy stories. And I just, I feel like I had to 110 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:04,040 like find out more, like find out more of genuine DL stories. 111 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,320 Right. Yeah, well, that's why today we 112 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,520 have the amazing guest, Dre. How? 113 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,680 Y'all doing how y'all doing? How y'all doing? 114 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,640 What's going on, Dre? How you doing man? 115 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,200 I'm doing good looking all blinged out and all shiny. 116 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,840 Man, I like your fit today for real. 117 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:21,000 Appreciate it. I appreciate. 118 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:21,960 It stands out. It's good to. 119 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,320 Be here. It's good to thank God for 120 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,000 inviting me here today and everything. 121 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,520 Of course, man, for someone that's DL, man, you seem very 122 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,280 out there with the with the fit man. 123 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:32,480 Yeah, yeah. Well, actually, how to bring it. 124 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,000 Or or you're not DL anymore though. 125 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,440 No, no, I'm not DL anymore. No that. 126 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,640 Was that was going to be my first question because I was 127 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,600 going to say, is it really DL if you say you're DL to the public? 128 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,520 No, it's like you're out. Yeah, you're out, you know. 129 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,640 But it's like, it's like people still thought I was DL when I 130 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:53,240 was posting when I was posting. Like you still DL but you're 131 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,080 posting up. Like no I'm not DL. 132 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,800 Anymore, No, for real, and just for the audience, we're just 133 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,480 trying to get to know you who don't know you. 134 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,160 If you were to go about giving a nice little like summary, you 135 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,000 know, synopsis of who Dre really is, man. 136 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,480 I mean, yes, we said you're DL and all this, but like, like, 137 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,320 who are you, man? Like like what you be doing? 138 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:18,440 Like what's your life like? Well, before Dre became Dre, I 139 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,520 was really working and then like, I was working on like a a 140 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,080 gay bar doing security. And then when I got like and I 141 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,760 was still making videos, but when I got fired, I really 142 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,760 tapped in. I started doing social media 143 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,960 but. Why'd you get fired? 144 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,600 All the boys they they like were into me, so that like the. 145 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,800 The. Owners, yeah, the owners, they 146 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,320 didn't like it. So they said, hey, you got to 147 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,480 like, you got to, you got to go. We, we, we could find someone 148 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,680 else. You know, it's not going to 149 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,160 work. And it was just too much. 150 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,840 So I started doing social media and then I dated like a famous 151 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:56,440 social media person like who who's do mug beans and stuff and 152 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,000 then after that. Female or male? 153 00:06:59,040 --> 00:06:59,960 Male. Male. 154 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,920 Yeah. And then after that we separated 155 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,680 off a misunderstanding and then I just started doing like the DO 156 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Chronicles, as they say. And yeah, it just blew up from 157 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,280 there. Like one day I just posted a 158 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,720 video and then I was like, you feel me? 159 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,400 And it just went up from there. But I'm I'm I'll be chilling. 160 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,120 I'll be chilling for real. And my own stuff hosting. 161 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,680 We got a party tonight at Cloud 9 in Fort Lauderdale, so make 162 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,720 sure y'all do come. Other than that, I just be 163 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,160 chilling, you know? There we go. 164 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,680 My own thing. Before you were security at gay 165 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,680 clubs, did you already know that you started liking guys? 166 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,360 Or was it like like when was like you would say you're? 167 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,040 I mean DL Awakening if that's the thing. 168 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,640 I didn't really, I want to say I really started liking guys. 169 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,040 I think I just started dibbling dabbling, like I started 170 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,720 watching, like, you know, you know, like gay. 171 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,280 Yeah. How old would you say you 172 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,040 started watching the gay? When I got older, like 1918, 173 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,720 stuff like that, I never did know I. 174 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,600 Still, like throughout high school, middle school, whatever, 175 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,200 you weren't. Really in high school, in high 176 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,440 school, I wasn't like really into boys like that thing. 177 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,400 When I drifted out of high school, that's when I started 178 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,040 like getting really into it, like just really deep, you know, 179 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,880 COVID came around and I just said I just wanted to like, you 180 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,520 know, experience on different on the yeah. 181 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,640 No, I mean like honestly, it's like, I mean, have you ever had 182 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,120 a female experience? Yeah, I always had a female. 183 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,080 Experience always, oh really always. 184 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,920 And you just not for you. I mean, it was for me, but I 185 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,640 guess when I started trying with guys, it was like, OK, I felt 186 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,760 with it more so. Got it. 187 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,039 Damn, man, that's so interesting of a story you got. 188 00:08:38,039 --> 00:08:40,799 You know, I think a lot of people, as you, as you said too, 189 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:42,760 you started making videos and a lot and a lot of people could 190 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,480 relate to you and get a lot of views on your, on your at least 191 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,000 the reels that I've seen. I mean, even before we even 192 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,920 started this podcast, he was going live on TikTok. 193 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,880 You know what I mean? Like this man's over here, like 194 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,320 really grinding through. But there's a lot of people that 195 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,040 watch you and relate to you. And I think that's a really good 196 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,680 thing because not everyone is comfortable of coming out now, 197 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:03,120 although you do claim DL at least prior. 198 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,240 It's like you felt comfortable in a way where you were like, 199 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,680 now, now it's time to be open. Now it's time to let the world 200 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:13,120 know like who I really am. What got you starting from being 201 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,160 DL to then now being open? What got you ready to then now 202 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,000 having to be open and comfortable to show the world 203 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,920 who Dre truly is. I think you just got to be like 204 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,560 comfortable with yourself. I just woke up one day and I was 205 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:28,560 like, I don't want to be dealing anymore. 206 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:30,840 I just want to like, you know, be open. 207 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,080 So, you know, even though I still like girls and boys, I, I 208 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,720 came out as bisexual and what motive me is like, I thought it 209 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,520 like people will be like, you know, Nah, 'cause you got to get 210 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,520 away from me or anything. But my mom was fine with it. 211 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,040 The people around me, they was fine with it. 212 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,640 So it really motivated me to like, you know, just keep going 213 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,040 and and, you know, express myself more. 214 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,120 So that's really why I really just came out, you know? 215 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,040 But so when did you come out? Like what year? 216 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:03,240 I came out, this is 2026. I came around like 2024. 217 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,960 Damn, it's like 2 years ago. A year and a half ago. 218 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,240 Damn man. OK, so like what's your type? 219 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,440 My type. Butch Queens, you said? 220 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,520 What Butch Queens? Buzz Queens Butch. 221 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,240 Queens, Butch. Queens. 222 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,520 What's a Butch Queens? I heard that term, but I don't 223 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,000 know. Like before there was, you know, 224 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,240 it was feminine, then it was like if you act like a dude but 225 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,920 also act like a like and you got feminine ways, they call you a 226 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:29,560 Bush queen. I've. 227 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,440 Not you heard of that? Well, I heard the term but I 228 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,800 don't know what it means. Yeah, like that's, that's my 229 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,120 term of it. I feel like you, you, you act 230 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,080 like a dude, but you also act like a you got some feminine 231 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,040 ways to you so. Like a homie huh? 232 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,120 Like a homie vibe. Nah, it's. 233 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,240 We're like feminine guy. It's like you still feminine, 234 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,720 but you, you, you present like a man. 235 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,600 OK, so. Which one of us is more your 236 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,000 type, if at all? If at all like if I was into 237 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,840 y'all, I mean both of y'all, y'all y'all look good bro. 238 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which one of us would say? 239 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,680 Like, would you say that we're at any part? 240 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:10,680 But what is it, Butch Queens? Like I say, like you, you could 241 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:13,240 give off like feminine, he could give off shit, OK? 242 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:14,640 No, you'd be real? I asked. 243 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,160 He he could get off, you could give off like Bush Queen. 244 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,000 I'm Bush Queen, yeah. Yeah, No, no, no, but that's 245 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,320 fine. I, I think, I think it's valid 246 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,320 because like I've, well, I've never, I'm hearing this term for 247 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,200 the first time now. So I think it's lit that like, 248 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,760 like you can like within your own eyes can determine who would 249 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,200 be within the best fitting of that part. 250 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,000 And I think that's really interesting because you know 251 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,640 Julian, right? Oh, he's the other coach on his 252 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:40,400 podcast. Today's his birthday. 253 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,440 Amazing guy. What would would you classify 254 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,560 him as the Butch queen? I don't know. 255 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:48,480 I don't. Even know I don't I don't I 256 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,160 don't. Does he give off like feminine 257 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,440 or like anything? Not at all. 258 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:53,520 He got curly hair though. He got curly hair. 259 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,120 I mean, no, I don't. No, no, OK, it's fine. 260 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,320 It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. 261 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,480 But anyways, OK, cool. So I want to kind of go back a 262 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,840 little bit, a little bit of history. 263 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,120 So like, how was like your childhood, you know, like how 264 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,200 was it growing up? Did you always live in Florida? 265 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,800 No, I lived in New Jersey. New Jersey, right? 266 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,000 So how was it growing up in New Jersey? 267 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,440 It was amazing. When my grandma was alive, she 268 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,720 loved me like dearly. So it was like everything was 269 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,280 good. I never had like no bad 270 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,120 experience. I never like experienced nothing 271 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,280 bad. I always like New Jersey was 272 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,960 amazing. My mom spoiled me. 273 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,200 Yeah, people, my uncle and my aunties just spoiled me. 274 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,200 So it was, it was always good. New Jersey was a a great time to 275 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,680 to live in at the time. So it wasn't really bad at 276 00:12:38,680 --> 00:12:39,840 growing up. I was just chill. 277 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,320 I used to listen to music, you know, really a lot. 278 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,960 And that's how I got into playing drums. 279 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,280 I don't play drums no more, but I was really just. 280 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,640 Yeah, in different ways, yeah. Yeah, I'm. 281 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,160 I'm just fucking. I was fucking with you. 282 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,440 But yeah, and that's, that's what I really like. 283 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,400 Grew up off church and everything like that. 284 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,040 So. OK. 285 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,600 Yeah, cool. Richard, have you ever gotten 286 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,320 with a New Jersey man? No, I wasn't into like, man at 287 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,200 that time. But so it was only once you came 288 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,440 to Florida. Once I left Pennsylvania and I 289 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,840 came to Florida, yeah, that's that's one state. 290 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,560 So you wait. You you're from New Jersey, then 291 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:17,360 Pennsylvania. And then Florida. 292 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:22,040 So when did you move to Florida? Florida, 2015. 293 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:23,200 OK. Yeah, yeah. 294 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:23,960 Yeah. OK. 295 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,960 So years ago, yeah, I got you. How? 296 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,200 How do you right now, if you don't mind me? 297 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,000 Asking I'm 26. 26 so we're the same age. 298 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:31,920 Yeah, yeah. Damn. 299 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,800 Interesting man Holy shit. OK cool. 300 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,640 So you, so you lived here when you were like what? 301 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,080 Like 7/16/17. Yeah, yeah. 302 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,520 Around there. Damn bro. 303 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,680 OK, so you moved here and in like your life you'd say like it 304 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:48,040 changed, but for the better. I'll say, yeah. 305 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,480 I mean, we had some ups and downs and rough times. 306 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,760 But. I'll say my life just switched. 307 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,600 I wouldn't think I'll be doing like I wouldn't think I'll be a 308 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,560 social media influencer. But before that, my life was, it 309 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:04,800 was good, you know, up and downs, but it still was good. 310 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,600 So the only thing in my life, my life changed like you feel like 311 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,400 2 years ago. Like right now I'm dealing with 312 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,800 some stuff through like government stuff, but you be in 313 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:15,920 the wrong place at the wrong time. 314 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,240 But other than that, everything else was was really pleasant now 315 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,400 so. So have you ever like just to go 316 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,400 back to the whole DL topic because I'm really just curious, 317 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,320 since you stopped being DL two years ago, in that time frame, 318 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,000 have you ever exposed anybody that is DL or do you think do 319 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,480 you not believe in exposing D OS? 320 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,920 I still don't believe in exposing D OS. 321 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,640 I mean, when I when I did this topic, I I was just like telling 322 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,400 my stories, you feel me? I don't believe in exposing DLS 323 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,720 because no one exposed me at the time. 324 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,160 I didn't experience like no one ever exposing. 325 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,520 Nobody ever put me out there. No one ever said, oh, like 326 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,560 drain, I'm mad at you. I'm finished so. 327 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,160 Why do you think some people will be exposing DLS though? 328 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,920 I think some people just feel like if they can't have you, 329 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,480 they rather just put you out there or if they they do without 330 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,840 a like pettiness they do. Without. 331 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,320 Yeah, that's crazy. You feel me? 332 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,240 They. Do no, that's fucked up. 333 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,640 Hurt or they do without a like a joke and they don't realize like 334 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,320 some people really be crazy. But me, I didn't, I was not a 335 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,120 crazy person. So if someone did, I wouldn't be 336 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,920 mad. But of course, I'll probably 337 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,480 feel hurt about it because, you know, a lot of people be hiding 338 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,440 from their families. A lot of people really can't 339 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,360 come out. I didn't have like, people on 340 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,280 TikTok comments, you know, like, hey, I wish to like, talk to a 341 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,400 dude, but I can't because if my family knew, they would kick me 342 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:37,800 out. So it was a lot of stuff. 343 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,120 I mean, it could really ruin somebody's life, yeah. 344 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,800 It could really bad, like real bad. 345 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,680 Someone could get beat up or the woman could, you know, expose 346 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,760 them and now they want to just like UN alive or the woman. 347 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,800 And that's how my friend died like her dude, God rest her 348 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,240 peace, you know, make she rest her girl a la That's how she 349 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,080 died. Like he still felt like even 350 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,840 though since he came out or whatever the case may be, he 351 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,360 thought like the world was like against him, against him, like 352 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,560 the girls was oh, you can't be with nobody else by the end of 353 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,640 the day. You choose your own life and you 354 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,640 choose your own way. You feeling she'll fucking? 355 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,560 Die because of that. Yeah, like it was so crazy what 356 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,960 he did. And God rest her soul, she was 357 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,240 really taking over TikTok. She was really taking over 358 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,440 TikTok. A beautiful a beautiful woman, a 359 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,720 beautiful boy, actually a beautiful fanboy that was 360 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,200 transitioning, but really beautiful, really talented and 361 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,520 everything. So when I first made that video, 362 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,160 I really was speaking about like her and other other, you know, 363 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:44,880 trans woman out. There. 364 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,800 So the guy killed her. Yeah. 365 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,760 That's that must be the video we're saying is not worth to 366 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,680 unalive somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he you 367 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,760 know, I guess if no one can have if if I can have you, no one can 368 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,560 have you. So it was really like one of 369 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,600 those things like, wow, that was crazy. 370 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,080 A really close friend and dearly miss and yeah. 371 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,280 So I really made that video dedicated to her, but also 372 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,079 dedicated to a lot of trans women out there because they get 373 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:13,400 an unalive just for just the smallest things and it like a 374 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,440 guy know what he's doing before he do it. 375 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,240 So you choose your your choices in life, no one could make you 376 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,599 choose them. So I feel like in the gay 377 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:25,119 community, there's a lot that goes on that just be swept under 378 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,400 the rug. Oh yeah, man, no, actually rest 379 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,640 in peace. And, and, and and that's fucking 380 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,160 crazy how shit like that be going on even till this day and 381 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,160 age, you know? Like I just feel like it's so 382 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,280 crazy too that like people in 2026 are still like going after 383 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,720 others and not just that, but like others lives, you know what 384 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,480 I mean? It's so crazy. 385 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,640 Like we'll never get over that hump. 386 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,000 It seems like it's crazy. Yeah, it's real crazy. 387 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,680 Love. Love is crazy. 388 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,680 Love is love is a real, it's love is really addictive. 389 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:56,680 That's you know, they say, they say drinking, but love is really 390 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,120 addictive. Social media, social media love 391 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:02,360 is really addictive too. Like once you get in a social 392 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:05,720 relationship, it's hard because now it's like everybody see you, 393 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,480 everybody know you. It's like you're attached to 394 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,320 that person or it's like if y'all break up with each other, 395 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,720 I don't want to leave each other because y'all connected with 396 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,920 each other. But it's really the love part is 397 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,080 really addictive because once you try to like, you know, pull 398 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,520 away from it, it's like you can't get away from it. 399 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:27,400 So it's so hard to like, you know, you know, like it's just 400 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,680 so hard. Right. 401 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:29,960 No, it is, man. It is. 402 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,280 And that's with anyone, man. It's so hard to pull away from. 403 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,480 That it's hard. It's hard like. 404 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,520 I do want to ask you a very specific question. 405 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,240 It's going to be very specific, but I want to ask you a question 406 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,280 like if you were to look at yourself from a third person, 407 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,240 right? Like let's say like you sitting 408 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,480 where I'm sitting looking at you, would you say that I could 409 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,680 already notice from your whole physique attire that I can know 410 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,920 that you're gay? I say no, no, no, it wouldn't be 411 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,320 possible still to this day unless I told someone they don't 412 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,240 know. OK, so would you consider 413 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:04,400 yourself gay? I'll consider myself, I consider 414 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,360 myself like a openly free spirit person. 415 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:10,160 Do I say I'm gay? Like do you only get with men? 416 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,440 If I choose to, but I can still get a woman if I want to. 417 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,000 OK, OK, that's my question. So if you were to go about 418 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,480 getting with, let's just say in this example, like let's say you 419 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,320 want to get with the guy, you know, whoever, whoever you just 420 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,000 want to get with, but let's just say it's within like a male, Do 421 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,480 you make the first approach or do they make an approach to you? 422 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,720 Because I'm looking at you, man. I'm just like, bro, you like, 423 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,560 you know what I'm saying? Like you're cool, like you know 424 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,520 what I'm saying? But it's just like in a way 425 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,400 where, you know, many people I feel like would go about saying 426 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,120 that like most gay men are on the more feminine side where 427 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:48,360 they where they more most stand out as as gay, right? 428 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,040 I mean, that's just the truth. But I'm just asking you, like 429 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,400 you just said too, that you just don't really see yourself as 430 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,960 that kind of guy. Are you making the first move? 431 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,640 Like how does that work? No, I don't really. 432 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,920 I don't make the first move. People make the. 433 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,400 I feel like to me, based off your look, like if you walk into 434 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,880 a gay club, like every gay guy is going to be on you, no. 435 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,640 Right, No, right based off no, that's true all. 436 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,160 The interviews like, Oh yeah, I love a masculine guy. 437 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,880 You can't. Even tell that's true though, 438 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,040 that's a good thing, but I'm saying that's true. 439 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:19,320 So that's like more so within also to a part of my question, 440 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,320 question where it's like are you getting more most of the 441 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,280 approach or are you doing the approaching? 442 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,400 I get mostly of the approach I really do like I deal with 443 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,000 social anxiety so unless I'm drunk I don't really approach. 444 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,720 Hell yeah, there you go. But I get approach more and they 445 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,920 asked me like are you are you gay or you this or you that? 446 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,640 And I say, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm openly bisexual or I'm gay And, 447 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,440 and you feel me? I'm, I'm preaching, I'm 448 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,440 preaching to mostly the masculine people because a lot 449 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,560 of people think there's only feminine, but it's really a lot 450 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,080 of masculine people. They, they, they still like, 451 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,440 they still, you know, they still have interest in women. 452 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,560 They still have interest in guys. 453 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,280 But there is masculine dudes out there, you feel me? 454 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,760 And I think everybody in the gay community think it's just one, 455 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,320 it's a look. It's not really a look 456 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,640 everybody, I mean. I suspect for me. 457 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,800 It is, but it's like also too, like it's kind of a guessing 458 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,720 game, you know what I mean? I think it depends on what area 459 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,360 you're at, right, 'cause like like I think like there's a lot 460 00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:17,920 of people like, I mean, obviously if you're going to a 461 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,080 gay bar, I mean like, maybe you know what I'm saying? 462 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,160 Like probably paint a bigger picture for you, but you're 463 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,480 walking around the mall, it's like. 464 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,160 Yeah, it's not like you would never tell. 465 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,720 Like you would never know. Right. 466 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:27,760 No, Yeah. It's like it's one of those 467 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,600 things, you know, it's, it's actually like very, very, very 468 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,480 crazy of a spectrum if you really think about it. 469 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,840 But I do want to ask you too. So man, you look built. 470 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,200 Do you work out? I don't work out that much. 471 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,280 I need I need to get back into it, but I really just I think it 472 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,840 it's mostly like natural, but it's real not true. 473 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,400 It's not, it's not like. Genetics. 474 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,040 Yeah, yeah, like, yeah, you know, stuff like that. 475 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,200 It's really, you feel me? It's like just in there. 476 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,200 But yeah, that's, that's really what it is. 477 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,800 I I might do push ups here and there, but it's really like I I 478 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,560 really do need to get back into working out. 479 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,920 But yeah, it's it's really not true. 480 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,920 Visual, but working out. I saw a story. 481 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,680 It's going to make sense why I brought up working out that you 482 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,440 had. You went to jail. 483 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,840 Yeah. Is it OK if I ask you the 484 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:18,960 question as to why you went to jail? 485 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,760 Yeah. Two years ago, Allegedly. 486 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,720 Well, you are allegedly. Well, yeah, that's right. 487 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,280 Allegedly. So two years ago I was with this 488 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,680 girl. She she was like real cool. 489 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,760 And then I don't know what happened. 490 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,040 She started like changing, but I didn't know she was from like 491 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,760 the hood know that I know she came from a like crazy 492 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,560 background. So I was chilling with her. 493 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,240 I was going through stuff at home, a lot of stuff at home. 494 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,280 Like it was just so much, you know, getting kicked out. 495 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,920 You know, my mom was going through her own thing. 496 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,800 So I said OK let me just go and chill with this girl and I 497 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,280 started going and chilling with her. 498 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,000 But throughout the times like what the girl was doing was 499 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,280 crazy and if I had a knew better than not be in that time and 500 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:11,000 place I would change it. But one day she, she I guess, 501 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,560 you know, Blase Blase and the cops came and then I guess they 502 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,680 saw her, both of us. And then she admitted to doing 503 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,840 something that she did not really do. 504 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,440 And then I got caught up in it. So I was at the wrong place at 505 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,080 the wrong time. And then like months, months 506 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,360 away, me and my mom got into it. And then, you know, cops came 507 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:32,840 involved and they did they, you know, I gave them my name and 508 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,000 they just took me and I was in jail for like a week maybe. 509 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,200 Yeah. You know, I was in like a what 510 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,880 was it when I got in there? I think I was in like a a 511 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,320 spiritual pod and everybody was chill. 512 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,760 You know, everybody prayed everyday. 513 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,400 They read a verse from the Bible. 514 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,280 And then once they called my name, I just I was out of there. 515 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,200 I didn't really turn back. So but the recently, I recently 516 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,240 went to jail because I went out of town to make sure my grandma 517 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,880 was OK and yeah. And then they said, you feel me? 518 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,800 He turned it into the court. And then, yeah, so that that 519 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,480 whole, that whole picture went viral. 520 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,200 Everybody's like, that's the dude from Instagram. 521 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,320 He'd be talking about what he like. 522 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,480 And it was just, you know, good, good balls. 523 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,320 Good. Well, they're, they're saying 524 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,920 he'd be talking about what he like. 525 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,080 They're saying you were in heaven. 526 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,240 They were saying you were in heaven, in jail. 527 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,320 Oh, when I would know. People say. 528 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:26,600 Yeah. No, no, they wasn't really 529 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,760 saying I was doing on the jail, but it was mostly saying like he 530 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,920 was the dude that was doing the DL Chronicles. 531 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,520 The DL videos, it wasn't viral. I got you, man. 532 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:35,760 Yeah. Yeah. 533 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,400 Shit. Well, sorry to happen. 534 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,640 I mean, obviously, you know, you hear it today and I'm. 535 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,600 I'm glad that you, you know. I appreciate it. 536 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,480 That was a pretty wild double life though. 537 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,440 He had a wife and kids. Yeah, I was like, and he was DL. 538 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,320 Yeah. Most, most, most, most DL man, 539 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,680 today they usually have wife and kids. 540 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,680 Really. No, like I remember a time and 541 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,880 I, you know, I'm saying this now because I can say it, me and my 542 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,640 being was going through it, but we was never really together 543 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,800 like that. And I remember one time there 544 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,400 was this dude, like I used to get nervous when I go around him 545 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,600 because I saw I was DL and like this is my first time doing with 546 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,680 a guy. But the third time we do it, I 547 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,800 said, I'm going to go to the gym, I'm going to go to the gym 548 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,440 workout. Well, I didn't go to the gym 549 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,120 workout. I wanted to meet up with the 550 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:23,720 dude. So most, most DL man you know, 551 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:28,080 if you know like if they go passed out a certain time, they 552 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,320 usually doing something. But most of the time a lot of 553 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:35,240 deals have like BMSA, lot of deals have wives and the wife 554 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,040 could be good, the girl could be good, but they just want to play 555 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:44,400 around and that's what it usually comes from about. 556 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,200 Being DL is like having fun and secret. 557 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,360 Oh yeah, no, 100%. I mean, I, I, I think, I think 558 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,200 when I, when I do think of the term DLI, do think it's more so 559 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,760 within good fun of it being a secret again to whoever it is 560 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,440 that's do. You think they get a rush from 561 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,280 the secret? I feel like they do because like 562 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,680 your girl will never know, your wife will never. 563 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,080 I mean, that's. Fucking. 564 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,200 Crazy, your wife, your woman, they're they're they're never 565 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,960 going to check your your back end. 566 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,160 They're never finna check down here. 567 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,960 They're never finna you're feeling like you finna go back 568 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,200 to do the same thing. You finna bust down your girl 569 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,280 and then maybe you want to bust down a dude, or maybe you want 570 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,320 to get bust down something your girl can't do another man might 571 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,280 want to do. That's a good point, yeah, Yeah. 572 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,800 Yeah. So are you a top or a bottom? 573 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:33,280 I'm a top. Like only top ever. 574 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,800 Yeah, I love you. Never bought them. 575 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,880 No, I love doing. Guys, would you ever bought 576 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,240 them? No, I love doing guys. 577 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,080 OK, Yeah, yeah, bottom was, I mean, bottom was not for me. 578 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,040 Have you tried bottoming? No. 579 00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:46,120 OK. You just you just automatically 580 00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:47,640 know it's not. Yeah, this is not for me. 581 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,920 I don't want to sniff you feel me? 582 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,960 Got you. And even if it was a time where 583 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,720 I did try, it still wasn't for me. 584 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,720 Got you. Yeah, Yeah. 585 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,680 Makes sense. Yeah, all. 586 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,960 Right. But Mr. Dre. 587 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:01,920 Yes. So, OK, so you said you, you 588 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,240 never bought them before. Do you think there will ever be 589 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,760 a point in time, and I'm even talking about five years, 10 590 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,800 years from now, which obviously we can never guess, but from 591 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,320 where your standpoint is now, do you think you would ever bought 592 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:18,240 them or at least try it out? If I get old and I get limp, 593 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,120 hell Nah. Even that. 594 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:21,680 Nah, Nah. OK. 595 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,600 It's not your, you know, it's just not your thing. 596 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,040 Nah. Got you, man. 597 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,400 Got you, I think. You never put a finger. 598 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,760 Not a thing, Hey, not a finger. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a man for 599 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,640 real. I'm not there. 600 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,920 You get what I'm saying? Gotcha. 601 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,600 Well, I mean, that's why you like what you like. 602 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,760 You know what I mean? That makes sense. 603 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,560 I guess we should get to the segment of DL or not. 604 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,080 So you we're going to show you a picture of somebody, you're 605 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,600 going to say whether they're DL or not, just based off their 606 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,800 vibe. And it's doing that we 607 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,120 personally know they don't. Claim to be gay or anything but 608 00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:54,200 do you think they might be secretly DL and. 609 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,840 We we know them. So it's, it's, it doesn't 610 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,560 matter, girl. It's it's what you think. 611 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,000 I want you to use your radar. There are homies so it don't 612 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,120 fucking matter what your answer is, it's just be honest. 613 00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:05,880 If you look at them by their looks, are they DL or are they 614 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,240 not? That's it. 615 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,000 I got you. I just want to make it known 616 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,800 that we know them. We're. 617 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,520 Cool with this. OK, OK, cool. 618 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,160 All right. I think you should go. 619 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:19,320 First, OK, so DL or not Alan Cruz, Mr. Exclusive Cruz, 620 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,080 honest, honest answer. I mean he. 621 00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:29,120 He looked like he could, he could play a little, but he 622 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:32,360 looked like, you know, he might get a little shy. 623 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:34,280 So Nah, I don't know. I don't know. 624 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,280 No, but that's a good answer though. 625 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,240 But he he looked, he looked good, though. 626 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,960 But he. Yeah, you know, but like if he 627 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,520 was on some like, hey, yo Dre slide. 628 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,760 Not that's not my my type. You want to say he's your type? 629 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,920 He's not my type. OK, but he but he, he, he. 630 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,640 He he he look like, you know, he could play. 631 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,560 He look like he probably bought him a little if he. 632 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,160 I like that. OK, cool. 633 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,200 Sure, sure, sure, sure. This is Dre's answer. 634 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,240 I like that. No pun intended. 635 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,560 Alright, but so next one Justin Laid, do you think he's DL? 636 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,520 We have did videos together. He interviewed you. 637 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,200 Interviewed you? Yeah. 638 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,680 Yeah. Based off those videos. 639 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,600 And your interactions, do you think he's DLI? 640 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,000 Feel like he might be. He might be. 641 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,560 DL He. Might he, might be. 642 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,840 I don't know. Justin. 643 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,440 You know, he might be putting. On like a little facade and he 644 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,320 might gives off the vibe he. Might be DLI feel like I feel 645 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,160 like. You know, he's mad chill with 646 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,640 it, like he say he you know, he might not offend me, but I feel 647 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,680 like he might like dibble and dabble just a little, maybe on 648 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,680 the side. He might not have told him 1. 649 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,600 He look like he'll be he'd be topping a little, you know, like 650 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,480 top bobs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dre, you're 651 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,000 giving some good. Ass fucking answers, man. 652 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,920 Yeah, yeah, he, he's. Like you answer questions for a 653 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,320 living. Man, you know how to do this 654 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,520 shit, Yeah. It's, it's normal. 655 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,360 It's right there all right. Well, today's his birthday. 656 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,040 We got Mr. Julian Barboza. DL or not DL? 657 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,360 What do you think? Just by looks, just by your 658 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,120 right now interaction with him through this phone. 659 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,320 What do you think? Honest man. 660 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,440 Honest. I want to say like. 661 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,920 He could, he could be like ADL gay stripper or something if he 662 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,800 could a gay stripper, OK. He could he could get on like. 663 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,120 He'd be in like Boardwalk Johnson's or something, but OK. 664 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,320 Alright, like ADL. Top he could. 665 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,360 He could give off like a pretty boy DL Top if he wanted to. 666 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,520 Understood. Understood. 667 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,080 Yeah, he would like to do it. Yeah, he give. 668 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,920 Off that like, you know, that vibe, like, you know, if I 669 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,680 could, I would you know, OK. Dude, you ain't nobody he's 670 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,920 talking about, man. Shit. 671 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,240 A little song Song. Show this one all right? 672 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,360 Last DL or not, DL or not Kyle Jacobs. 673 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,720 Yeah, he, he, he. Overly gone. 674 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,880 You think you think he's overly DL Yeah, You know he got the 675 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,560 perked up lips, the muscles going on Yeah, he look like he 676 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,000 probably do lose something on a little, but do you think he's a. 677 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,160 Top or a bottom? If he was, he could be like a 678 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,040 verse. Maybe a verse so it. 679 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,520 Plays both roles. Yeah, you were like. 680 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,680 Damn yo, he knows. His shit, man. 681 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,840 Yeah, he's tapped. He's tapped in bro. 682 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,960 Damn, just just a little. All right. 683 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,880 Well, that was a segment, DL or not, with Mr. Dre over here. 684 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,040 It was, it was amazing that. Was great by the way, that. 685 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,640 Was actually that was actually fucking amazing. 686 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,720 Not do you think we're DL? Oh yeah. 687 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:33,920 What's your? Yeah, what's? 688 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,680 Your a. Lot of people think we're DL. 689 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,680 For Do you feel like you? DL. 690 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,160 No, I don't. Feel deal I. 691 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,880 Don't feel deal. I don't feel deal either. 692 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,920 I mean, I, I think we, I mean, well, speaking for myself, I 693 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,280 like just based on like if. You saw us walking on the street 694 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,840 like this, interaction aside, like if you just saw us walk in. 695 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,120 I wouldn't. Think I would be like DL? 696 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,240 No, I think I would be like gay. I think I would look like some 697 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:08,240 college students who party with. White white girls and. 698 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,560 But the snow bunnies, Snow bunnies, yeah, we drink a lot of 699 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:18,160 liquor and yeah, yeah, yeah, I. Think that's a, that's a great 700 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,600 answer. I mean, we're not DL, but it's 701 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,800 just like, I just think a lot of people have their own like 702 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,680 perception of how we all are, mainly because I guess of what 703 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,000 we do and that's fine. I mean, that's that's completely 704 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,040 fine. And for example. 705 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,280 He ate Julian's. Is that is he? 706 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,240 DL. OK, look, let me. 707 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,800 Ask you this question and it is going to be a part of this. 708 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,080 You do something on camera. Is that gay? 709 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,440 If you say that again. If it if you do, if you do it 710 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,080 on. Camera. 711 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,920 If you do it on camera, is that considered gay or off camera? 712 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,400 Is it considered considered well off camera? 713 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,160 For sure. But well, no, no, I'm asking I. 714 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,440 Don't know his thoughts. This fucking guy. 715 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,560 If you do it on. Camera. 716 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,640 Is it gay? I'm asking Yeah, if you. 717 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,160 Do it on cameras. I mean, well, I'm, I was asking 718 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,360 like. If you do it on camera, is it? 719 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,640 Is it like a? Is it like a? 720 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,440 But on camera? Is that like? 721 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,640 Is that like? Is that like a like for? 722 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,840 For for only. Yeah, that's what I mean on. 723 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,120 Camera. I mean if you if. 724 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,160 You, I don't, I don't feel like it's gay if you're trying to get 725 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,440 your money, you know? Sure, OK, sure. 726 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,920 Sure, but when it's off camera you think different because like 727 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,320 yo you're doing it off off camera it's your. 728 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,360 Everyday life. OK, OK. 729 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,200 I I just want to know your thoughts, that's all. 730 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,960 I'm just I think. You should clarify. 731 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,560 Have you done that off camera? Dude, no. 732 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,760 There's. One thing God, did you do that 733 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,760 off? Camera No I've. 734 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,640 Never done this shit off camera. Whatever dude. 735 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,480 I've never done this shit on camera. 736 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,760 Trust. But it's fine though it's. 737 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,600 Cool. Because it's not. 738 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,760 It's not for. It's not for everyone. 739 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,800 It's not for everyone. That's fine, but I don't want to 740 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,840 ask you a different question though this is more so maybe, 741 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,560 maybe this could be a little personal too, but I want to know 742 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,480 life behind social media when the cameras aren't on for you. 743 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,880 No live stream, no Instagram. What is your life like when you 744 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,520 woke up this morning? Like what were you doing? 745 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,520 Like what do you do every day besides the social media? 746 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,320 Life behind. Social media. 747 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,880 I usually take time to think about my life and everything I 748 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,360 did the past, the going forward, the mess ups, the good, the the 749 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,080 ups and downs. So I take time to do that. 750 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,120 And usually when I'm not doing that, I'm trying to look for 751 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,239 more ways to, to reach the people on social media. 752 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,080 And if I'm not doing that, I'm usually partying. 753 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,280 When I woke up today, I was drunk. 754 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,320 I didn't go to sleep. So but I sit down in time to 755 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,360 reflect because even when you're on social media, a lot of people 756 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,199 get lost in the sauce. You feel me? 757 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,480 A lot of people don't take time to reflect and when they get to 758 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,800 the fame, it's like. You got the fame, but do you? 759 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,000 Got time for yourself to reflect on the things you doing with the 760 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,280 money You will always come but you got to take time to reflect 761 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,960 like social media. Social media could be a toll on 762 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,000 you because is this going to be your everyday life? 763 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,800 You got to switch from a person to person. 764 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,400 But me, I'm one person, so I don't have to switch. 765 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,840 But a lot of people don't take time, you feel me? 766 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,480 You're still a person out there today even though you do social 767 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,400 media content, family. So yeah, 100% man, I. 768 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,040 Think and and and just relating to you. 769 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,760 I know you and I are within the same age. 770 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,000 I would just say that you have more life experience than me 771 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000 because of all the shit you've been through. 772 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,480 Which is I would. Say good for you in a way 773 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,680 because you probably have learned more things than I have 774 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,960 because of the shit you fucking went through to get you to 775 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,600 wanting to learn more about yourself and more within how to 776 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,760 deal with life on its own. What do you think? 777 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,560 And this could be a very like putting you on the spot, but 778 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,240 like, what would you say? Like the biggest turn point of 779 00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:52,720 your life was like, what was like the most memorable point of 780 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,600 your life? My the most. 781 00:35:54,600 --> 00:36:00,200 Memorable point of my life, it's probably, I say when I was with 782 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,000 the girl, I remember like we was in the park, I was trying to 783 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,000 save her from someone and I was trying to save her from the boys 784 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,160 out there because like they want her to do stuff for her while 785 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,440 she was drunk. And I was like, Nah, like would 786 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,680 your friends be fine with it? And we just started tussling, 787 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,520 tussling. I lost my phone and I'll never 788 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,440 forget to say I lost my phone and when I lost my phone, like 789 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:27,760 my mom was trying to call me. People was trying to call me, 790 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,880 but me I'm just saying that we fighting. 791 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,760 I'm she fighting me. I'm not hitting her 'cause she's 792 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,000 a girl. But we going back and forth, 793 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,720 back and forth, back and forth and I lost my phone. 794 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,880 We went back to the place that you find me are saying that was 795 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,320 going on where I got caught for she got caught for and I 796 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,840 remember I got a call out of nowhere and my mom was like 797 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,720 where you been at? Oh da da da, you feel me? 798 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:53,360 Oh, this is what you doing. Come, come get this. 799 00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:56,760 But where you been at my my BM? Well, my BM called me first. 800 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,800 She was like, well, your mom been trying to reach you. 801 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,000 Your grandma died. And wait a minute. 802 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,920 I'm sorry, I had to. Interrupt so BM baby Mama Baby 803 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,520 Mama so. You have a kid. 804 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,240 Yes, I have a kid. Yeah, So I yeah. 805 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,080 So my baby Mama called me and she's like, yo, your Mama trying 806 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,120 to reach your grandma died. And that's probably the most 807 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,440 memorable moment because it's like, I would have never thought 808 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,400 my grandma was dying. So you like, life turned from 809 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,920 there. My mind switched and I just 810 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,920 started like doing things I normally want to do if my 811 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,960 grandma was alive till today. You feel me? 812 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,480 She was really like a passion for me, someone who kept me 813 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,360 going every day. So that was like a real turning 814 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,840 point, a real crazy thing to experience. 815 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,600 And that's when I just, you know, I think blanked out and 816 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,200 just started doing things I wouldn't do. 817 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,000 And if, you know, I could change that, I would. 818 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,240 So that's that's the most memorable moment I could ever 819 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:51,840 think of. I think it's cool how. 820 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,080 Open you are about that because it seems very personal and I 821 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,000 think it's really cool that you're able to speak about it. 822 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,360 You know, I think that's really cool. 823 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:01,200 That's because not many people are willing to speak about they 824 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,600 keep it to themselves. So I think it's cool that you're 825 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,720 able to really voice and and speak about your personal life 826 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:09,480 and, and things you've gone through and people who you 827 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,680 appreciate the most, because not many people would outright say 828 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,160 that, you know, yeah, that's true. 829 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,600 But it's so. Your baby Mama called you. 830 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,840 How long have you had a kid for? I had a kid. 831 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,360 For a long time like. You only have one. 832 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,480 I only have one kid. Boy or girl? 833 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,440 It's a boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 834 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,720 I feel like he's going to grow up to be a great, you know, a 835 00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:37,800 great man, a great. Wait, so how old is your son? 836 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,320 He's 5 now. He's with his mom. 837 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,120 We have an off and on relationship. 838 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,040 But once I get clear, once we get our understanding, it would 839 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,360 be better. But I know he's going to be, 840 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,440 he's going to grow up to be great and and I know he's going 841 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,680 to be able to make some good choices and go far in life. 842 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,400 There you go, man. I know you're a great father, 843 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,280 man, I already know that shit, but you didn't got to tell me. 844 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,720 I already like to know man, you know what I'm saying? 845 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:05,200 You easy to get along with, you cool as fuck, you know I mean 846 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,400 shit. I don't think there's anyone 847 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,440 that could ever disagree with that, you know what I'm saying? 848 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,760 Good vibes and good vibes only bro. 849 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,720 That's just what I'm getting at, by the way, you know what I'm 850 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:12,480 saying. That's all it is. 851 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,320 But I do got a question though, and this is going back to the, 852 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,920 to the whole DL because I'm, I'm, I'm learning these new 853 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,400 terms. By the way, you know, I think I 854 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,480 learn every single day. I think we all as human beings 855 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,640 do learn every day. And obviously, you know, I know 856 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,280 we're getting more of a touchy subject, but just I want to 857 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,520 bring this up because 1 is in my head right now. 858 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,240 I don't want to forget about it. What, what does DL trade mean? 859 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,600 ADL. Trade is a straight man 860 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,640 presenting but they are still not comfortable with coming out 861 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,880 like what did like where. Did trade come from? 862 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,400 Yeah, I've been here. Trade, trade. 863 00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:55,240 From what they told me and my knowledge of trade is I guess it 864 00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:59,720 came from like straight, a straight looking man who who you 865 00:39:59,720 --> 00:40:02,440 want to be able to clock and that is real masculine. 866 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,080 So I think that's what I could say. 867 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,760 That's where trade came from. Like you're a boy. 868 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,520 Are you a DL? Trade you're A like a D. 869 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,800 DL or or you're just like a man looking like no one can really 870 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,480 clock you like that right? Feel me? 871 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,520 So yeah. So so a difference. 872 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,560 From a DL to a DL trade, is there a difference? 873 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,280 I don't really think there's a. Difference. 874 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,360 OK, I think they all stem from the same thing I guess. 875 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,320 Maybe DL? You could kind of tell trade is 876 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,800 what, Like you can't tell at all. 877 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,640 Yeah. Trade, yeah. 878 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,040 Trade, Yeah, trade is you can't tell. 879 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,480 But when it's like DL and trade, it means like, OK, he's trade, 880 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,640 but he might be doing some DL stuff. 881 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,920 So you you wouldn't really know. But in today's world, I guess 882 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,840 that's where it stems from, from the back of the day or 883 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,200 something. So now all the terms is coming 884 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,000 together and so do you wait? In your time talking about DLS 885 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,600 on the Internet, do you know any like DL celebrities? 886 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,640 I don't DO athletes I don't know no D. 887 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,080 O celebrity, you know, DO see the way 'cause he. 888 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,400 Knew he doesn't want to say he's Yeah, that's fine, he's guilty. 889 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:05,640 No, don't. Hey, but look. 890 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,400 Man, that's I'm, we're just trying to have you out in. 891 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,720 Yeah, yeah, I don't. Have you had anyone in your way? 892 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,440 But if you do though. You could say you do. 893 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,360 You didn't get. You didn't get. 894 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,560 Tell us. No, I don't know. 895 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,480 No. DO No, he's on the. 896 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,280 Contract he signed a contract bro. 897 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,600 You fucking signed it and are we fucking and we, we're just 898 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,080 fucking with you, man. Nah, look, we just look, I just 899 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,840 think it's like so interesting how there's so many DLS that 900 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,200 like even if you let's just say per SE, let's just say an 901 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,960 example, you knew like it's just so great. 902 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,120 Like like that's like they're like DLDLS like D L * 5 Some 903 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,400 some people just got. A reputation to keep and I feel 904 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,240 like if it was someone else, they would go out there and 905 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,680 probably tell but me, I just like to keep people's 906 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,680 reputations because I know at the end of the day if they have 907 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,000 a big mantle, if they have a big platform, if they have whatever, 908 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,920 I don't think it would probably mess up the reputation. 909 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,080 So like I feel like you should, if they fought with you heavy 910 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,760 and they, you know, feel like they could keep you around, you 911 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,000 should just keep that private 100% and I. 912 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,440 Think that that right there is what I think if you going to 913 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,200 claim DLDL trade, it should stay DL or DL trade, you know what I 914 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,160 mean? Anything else out of that it's 915 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,720 just disrespectful. Yes, yes. 916 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,480 I I I understand. For sure, and unfortunately many 917 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,360 people who will be calling them out don't. 918 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,920 So yeah, but so when was? The last time you got with the 919 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,880 DLI. Personally have never been with 920 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,480 the DL because never. Not even for one night. 921 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,600 Well, it's not your type, right? You don't. 922 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,640 Want. Yeah, I don't like a. 923 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,280 Man, I don't. I can't see a man like me with 924 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,280 me. You get what I'm saying? 925 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,680 So you don't like both? No, I mean it's not. 926 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,520 Even about the buffness, it's just about I can't because 927 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:50,160 buffness you got feminine buff people that you got real hope, 928 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,080 you want them to be feminine. Internally. 929 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,560 Yeah, I want. To be specific because. 930 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,760 It's like feminine meaning, like makeup, feminine meaning acting 931 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,280 like when you say the word feminine, like what does that 932 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,800 really entertain? Because. 933 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,400 Feminine buff. It's like when I when I look at 934 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,120 that, it's like someone that does go about, you know, being 935 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,160 feminine, but then also like having like that obviously what 936 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:18,360 you said too, that male aspect to them, but having the feminine 937 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,840 look like, you know, like make up. 938 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,520 I'm I'm trying to like understand your type. 939 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,800 So like if you were to describe it, it's like more so of like 940 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,440 the feminine aspect of it, but then having like, yeah, so you 941 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,600 can have the. Feminine aspect. 942 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,200 You could be big, you could be small, you could be athletic, 943 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,400 average, but the aspect of you is feminine, which you what you 944 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,760 present, your personality, the way you move, the way you walk 945 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,600 you you don't have to wear like a pocket wool. 946 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,320 You don't have to be in a dress, you don't have to wear makeup. 947 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:51,960 But it's what you present and how you move and your aura. 948 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:53,920 Got it. So yeah, understood. 949 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,720 OK, now I. Got it. 950 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,600 How common do you say DL men are in this world? 951 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,600 It's a lot of. DL men but since they don't have 952 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,440 safe spaces it's like. They don't want to come out. 953 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,240 They rather, they rather go to their grave because they're 954 00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:12,840 scared of the reputation, what might happen, their jobs they 955 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,560 might lose, the people who they might lose and. 956 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,760 Probably like their. Families and so it's like a lot 957 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,360 of DLS out here, but you want to know everybody's scared because 958 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,240 what would happen but in this world it's 2026 no one's really 959 00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:31,560 going to do nothing to you no one's really going to say 960 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,520 nothing to you but if you don't got the heart to come out it's 961 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,200 like. I mean being DL this. 962 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,760 Is in these times and age is really like crazy because it's 963 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,960 like, what are you hiding from? It's 2026, right? 964 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,120 True. What do you think is the most? 965 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:51,080 DL city in America the most DL city or you said sat inner city 966 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:56,440 city Florida for real, Yeah. Florida has the. 967 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,320 Most. Well then, what did? 968 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,440 What? What specific city do you think? 969 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,760 Miami. Yeah. 970 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,400 Miami, Really. Damn, Broward County is. 971 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,440 Like it's there, it's like more half and. 972 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,320 Half but. Miami is Fort Lauderdale, too. 973 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,800 No Fort Lauderdale. Is a mixture, you have gay 974 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,640 people and you might have DL people but the DL people are not 975 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,880 that scared as oh OK. Small, but Miami is. 976 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,160 More like you, feel me, damn you. 977 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,600 Got real *** That dibble and dabble? 978 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,800 Hell yeah. I do want to ask this question 979 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,800 too, where it's like, well, I mean from the amount of time 980 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:40,040 that you were in jail for, have you experienced a lot of like, 981 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,880 maybe not personally, but if so, please tell us a story. 982 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,360 But any DL moments or anyone that you know there that's 983 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,680 considered quote UN quote, DL or openly gay, like anyone in jail 984 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,760 specifically? Like is it a true thing that 985 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,760 majority of guys in jail are? Yell are gay. 986 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,880 I mean if they. Was or if they they was or were, 987 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,120 I wouldn't really know because it's like hard to tell because 988 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,200 it's *** that look like me, right? 989 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,960 OK. And it's kind of hard to. 990 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,080 Tell you from me, it's kind of Have you ever dropped the? 991 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,720 Soap I never. Got to that point, and if I did 992 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,480 ever got to that point, I'll fight back. 993 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,520 Have you ever seen anyone? Drop the soap. 994 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,840 No, OK. OK, so do you think the? 995 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,920 Dropping the soap is a myth. Dropping the soap is a. 996 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,840 Myth, but in jail you. Shower with everyone? 997 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,040 No, you shower by yourself. Oh, OK. 998 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,840 It's prison where you shower with prison. 999 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,440 You. You. 1000 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,760 But I feel like in prison it might be a myth. 1001 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,520 I I mean you feel me, but as a dude, you should still fight 1002 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,240 back. Don't let no. 1003 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:40,240 So I've been scared of picking up the. 1004 00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:41,920 SOAP all this time, man, for no reason. 1005 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,800 Yeah, I mean, don't be. Don't be afraid. 1006 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,960 I mean, you should fight back. You shouldn't just let someone 1007 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:47,840 just. I mean, I'm going to share it 1008 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,200 by. Myself, I don't want you to get 1009 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,800 out, I mean. If I let it there you in the 1010 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,560 shower by yourself, That's that's crazy. 1011 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,800 Don't let nobody take. You. 1012 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,160 I don't know but. I'm just saying I I just like 1013 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:57,360 shit bro. Like I gotta. 1014 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,480 You're trying to like. Prepare your mind to get ready 1015 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,160 for it or something. No, no, no, no, no. 1016 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,280 No, no, I mean, I'm just, I think that's the type. 1017 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,920 Of mind framework, I'd rather be prepared than. 1018 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,760 Not I'm just saying like bro so like when you drop this. 1019 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,400 Soap you pick it up fast or slow. 1020 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,480 I don't pick it up at. All I just don't wash it no 1021 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,000 more. Oh, you get a new. 1022 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,920 Soap, yeah, buy new ones, but I don't pick. 1023 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,040 That up bro, I have like a whole pile of soap so you just be. 1024 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,200 Scared like I'm not picking that up but like. 1025 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,720 For example, I was in but no awesome. 1026 00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:23,120 Real shit though. Like everything aside, you don't 1027 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,320 know how to fight. Back. 1028 00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:29,400 It's like it's fucking real. When we went to We Ho you got. 1029 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,800 Kissed, and you leaned in. Oh, you leaned in. 1030 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,600 Then I get kissed you. Can it's a debate. 1031 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,160 It wasn't on my lips. It was on my chin. 1032 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,520 But but in all serious, like for real, all seriousness, OK, maybe 1033 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,320 I was a little tipsy, I was a little drunk, but this I was 1034 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,520 interviewing this guy. We, we, we go into in 1035 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,920 California, what's called the Wee Ho, which is the gay clubs, 1036 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,800 and we do interviews at Wee Ho, the gay clubs. 1037 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,160 Yes, I was a little drunk. Whatever, he's having a good 1038 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,800 time. OK, I'm doing interviews and 1039 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,040 shit. I asked this one guy, I mean, 1040 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,200 how old is just 50s? Maybe he was in his 50s or 1041 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,880 something, 40s or 50s, right? I asked him, hey, like, you 1042 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,240 know, whatever, interviewing him, he goes, he answers all my 1043 00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:08,720 questions. He goes, can I ask you a 1044 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:09,680 question? I go, sure. 1045 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,720 What is it? I get closer because he's trying 1046 00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:14,520 to get to my ear but I noticed that he wasn't trying to whisper 1047 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,360 in my ear like asking me a question. 1048 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,240 He was grabbing me on my neck and he went in for try to go in 1049 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:23,120 for a kiss, but he kissed my chin because I looked up when 1050 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:28,440 you weren't like this. Bro if look. 1051 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,280 OK, bro, if we're going to actually bring this shit up, 1052 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,240 bro, we got to show Dre, dude, because like I'm, I'm being 1053 00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:36,400 honest bro, like you can hear it in the fucking mic, but bro, 1054 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,240 we're going to be on some dumb ass shit. 1055 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:39,440 Bro. I'm actually I'm actually being. 1056 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,400 I want to find this video. Right, it sounds like some 1057 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:41,880 brains. Wild. 1058 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,840 Then I'm gonna find it. Oh no, I think it's on TikTok. 1059 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,160 Hold on. Give me a SEC. 1060 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,440 So you now I'm going. To show it to you, I want to. 1061 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,720 Know your take on it, but I want you to but I'm actually be 1062 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:49,800 serious. Like that's actually how it 1063 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,120 went. But like this is the scenario it 1064 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,680 I mean, it's just the fucking truth. 1065 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,960 But like feel free to watch it over and over again. 1066 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,560 I can give you my phone, but it's like, but it's just because 1067 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,200 it's the clip, right? Like it's ludicrat when it 1068 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,760 happens. I was like. 1069 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,920 Fuck I was drunk but look at the first clip bro, you saw he like. 1070 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,600 Closed his eyes. I didn't. 1071 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,880 Know God damn it bro. So he's so like. 1072 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:17,320 Bro he just did that. Shit. 1073 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,000 But bro, I didn't. He said he wanted to tell me a 1074 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,040 secret. I was like, what is it? 1075 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,040 But bro, I wasn't even looking at it like that, I say. 1076 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,320 When I when I was in Lai say one thing about it and this is when 1077 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,480 I was with my man, one thing about it, the people out in wee 1078 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,120 ho y'all? Y'all do be real like no? 1079 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,160 Don't don't. Oh, not y'all, but I mean. 1080 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,480 The people. The people. 1081 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,800 Out there in wee ho y'all look? Most of you look like look, we 1082 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:38,920 were just doing. Interviews. 1083 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,000 And he told me he wanted to ask me could I ask him have a 1084 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,080 question? He was doing great. 1085 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,760 The guy was doing great. He was answering all my 1086 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,240 questions. And I asked him a question. 1087 00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:46,800 Oh no, he was trying to ask me a question. 1088 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,600 Like, all right, what is it, dude? 1089 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,040 He just fucking grabbed me. But yo, they're closing the 1090 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,080 eyes. That's bullshit, bro. 1091 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,920 Maybe like maybe next. Time you probably like probably 1092 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,400 need to like yo don't touch me or some or but I. 1093 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,400 Wasn't expect. I was not expecting any of that. 1094 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,400 You know what I mean? I mean, no, now moving forward, 1095 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,680 moving forward, like like in the future, you didn't know what to 1096 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:06,600 do. Yeah, you might need a bodyguard 1097 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,320 next time or so. Yeah, I'm just crazy. 1098 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:09,720 We. Had security, you have 5 1099 00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:11,680 securities banding. Well, look, this is the guy that 1100 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:12,360 walked up. Look. 1101 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,200 Look, if you watch it one more time, yeah. 1102 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,800 See, I was him grabbing him. Look, that was our security. 1103 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,880 See? Look, with the hat you probably 1104 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,200 got to. Get another security, he ain't 1105 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,120 doing too good. I didn't close my eye. 1106 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,840 Bro, I looked at. Him. 1107 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:29,440 Look. No, I did. 1108 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,040 Not I was hoping you're like looking him directly. 1109 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:37,920 In his eyes, too. He's trying to clip motherfucker 1110 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,280 you probably got. To have like a meeting to do. 1111 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,480 So y'all get? Better security and I just think 1112 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,560 people just. Got to be faster. 1113 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,480 And that's. And that's fine. 1114 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:47,640 That's fine. You know what I mean? 1115 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,880 But I think the day shit happens, OK, Shit fucking 1116 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:52,560 happens. Whatever. 1117 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,320 Yeah, I do. It's life I do it's life. 1118 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,320 But that's crazy. Right, right. 1119 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:04,520 What would you say when it comes like to the the DL community? 1120 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,040 Like if you were to because I would say that you within the 1121 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,600 audience that you garnished and the amount of you know, the 1122 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,960 content that you provide claiming to be DL, which 1123 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,560 obviously you know, now you're out. 1124 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,280 What advice would you give people that are now till this 1125 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,600 day still DL? What advice would you give them 1126 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,000 to didn't come out if you had any? 1127 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,120 I'll say come. Out and don't be scared because. 1128 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,640 Life is different today. I mean, no one is really 1129 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,560 advocating for the gay people today. 1130 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,840 No one's really advocating for anybody. 1131 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,360 But whether or not you come out, you still want to get backlash. 1132 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,880 When you get exposed, you going to be mad. 1133 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,680 So why not just come out by like on your own, you feel me? 1134 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,440 Because it's like, now that you get exposed, now you want to 1135 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,640 unlock on a lot of people. Now you feel afraid. 1136 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,120 Now you feel me. It's like just come out because 1137 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,040 if it's not for you, it's not for you. 1138 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,440 But if it is, you don't know. And if you got a choice, no 1139 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,320 one's going like there's girls out there who still like man, 1140 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,000 that's bisexual, still like dudes when they come out, who 1141 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,200 still like gay dudes out there. So it's not, it's not really 1142 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:14,120 like a bad thing today, maybe way back, but we're not 1143 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,360 overturning time. So why you got to be DL, you 1144 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,720 feel me? Just be yourself, just be you. 1145 00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:22,080 That's all you got to do. I think that's what life. 1146 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,040 Really is about is being yourself because that's where 1147 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,680 you want to go about living a really happy life. 1148 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,440 You know, I think it's really, really important that a lot of 1149 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,560 people do realize what you just said, you know, because I don't 1150 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,440 think a lot of people understand that because it seems like they 1151 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,200 want to live a secret, whether it's for the thrill. 1152 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,600 But I feel like you would say majority of those guys who live 1153 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,360 for the thrill, although they're doing it for it itself. 1154 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,160 But I think would you say most of those and obviously not 1155 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,440 speaking for them, but would you say majority of those guys who 1156 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,120 do live for the thrill and want to be a secret, do you think 1157 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,080 they live happy lives? I don't think they live happy. 1158 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:58,760 Lives because it's like you you can't be with that guy who you 1159 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,400 really like after you do it in them. 1160 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:07,360 Yeah, you can't fully go out to I mean, they not every DL person 1161 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,720 want to go to a a a gay place. They you know, you can't you 1162 00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:14,120 can't go out with certain people with that you do it with because 1163 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,680 it's like people going to look at you different people going to 1164 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,480 look at you like what like you would have Oh, so that you feel 1165 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,880 me. So it's like I don't think 1166 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,000 they're living a happy life. Some of them are because some of 1167 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,440 them are like OK, I can still be DL and I can still have my 1168 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:36,080 girlfriend or I can still be DL and still be 1 myself and still 1169 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,320 have my family and not you feel me? 1170 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:44,440 So it's like one, you know, iffy about it 100%. 1171 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,520 You feel me? That's all I'm. 1172 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:46,680 Curious, I don't think we ever asked. 1173 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:51,520 What was your first ever like guy experience or when was it my 1174 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,960 first ever? Guy and like how to go down. 1175 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,560 Well, I'm actually. Curious. 1176 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,520 When I was coming out or when? I was DL like. 1177 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,840 DL Whenever. Like first. 1178 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,720 My first person with XY chromosome. 1179 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,880 Ever. My first. 1180 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,040 Person was when I DL and then I got another one when I came out, 1181 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,960 but the first person I tried it with when I was DL it was. 1182 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,960 Why him? Hey, why'd you start it with 1183 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,920 him? Why'd you start with? 1184 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,400 I just wanted to try I mean. He was a fat dude, OK? 1185 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,640 He said. I'd come over like, but when I 1186 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:28,520 came out, which it was like 2024 going to 2025, the dude I did it 1187 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,640 with like it was amazing. Like his was amazing. 1188 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,360 What year was it that you tried? It with the first guy again that 1189 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,360 was in. Around COVID which is like 1190 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,480 20/21/2020 so OK. So so you got it with this guy 1191 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,240 That was what then what you said play him Chubb thick, you know, 1192 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:49,120 thick guy wasn't into it. When was your second run after 1193 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,760 that guy? When was your run after that? 1194 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,600 Because I'm trying to, I'm, I'm trying to really piece to piece 1195 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,200 here because OK, so like 20, OK, Ron, COVID, you did it with this 1196 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,600 guy. You didn't feel it wasn't for 1197 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,200 you, but you tried it. The guy after that when was. 1198 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,320 That one the the second. One like he was good, it was 1199 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,160 just I was nervous. But the third time it was good. 1200 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,400 But so do you think is it? Possible then to be straight for 1201 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,720 like, what is it then? You were like 20. 1202 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,400 Is it possible to be straight for like 20 years and then 1203 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,800 realize that you're into guys? Yeah, you could be. 1204 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,880 Straight for 20 years because it's like you'll get nervous 1205 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,440 like you want to do with a guy, but you get nervous like you get 1206 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,400 like you start. Maybe I don't, I don't know. 1207 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,400 You just get nervous like if someone's like you feel me, but 1208 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,560 throughout them years you Start learning about yourself and then 1209 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,720 when do you like really start? Like, because I didn't start 1210 00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:39,680 liking guys since 2024. Really I didn't. 1211 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,120 End to going to 20. 25 and I realized like, OK I'm not 1212 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,480 nervous this shit feel good but throughout them years is like 1213 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,880 you're nervous so let me just fuck with a girl until like you 1214 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,880 feel like you want to. You feel me. 1215 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,840 And it's like throughout the years I became comfortable. 1216 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,840 Yeah, but you. Can still be straight. 1217 00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,920 Some *** still be straight, still be doing it. 1218 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,440 Oh yeah. Because they just don't feel 1219 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,120 right, just feel weird. But do you think? 1220 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,840 You were Born This Way. No, you don't. 1221 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,680 Know you were born. I don't think I was born this. 1222 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,360 Way. But I think we don't know what 1223 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:16,160 we're really destined for until we really get into that that 1224 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:21,280 that element. Do you think within your life 1225 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,000 moving forward as you do get older, do you think you can see 1226 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,600 yourself marrying a guy I. Could see myself. 1227 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,880 Think about your type. Think about. 1228 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,560 Someone that you really want to be with, Can you could you 1229 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,280 consider yourself marrying them? The person. 1230 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,080 Who I really want to be with that. 1231 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,800 Yeah. I can see myself marrying him, 1232 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,520 going back to him or being with him. 1233 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,840 I mean, he was probably the greatest one I ever had. 1234 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,000 Nothing really happened. We just had a misunderstanding. 1235 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,320 But to this day, yeah, I told him. 1236 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,000 I said like, when I got out of jail, I said, or when I was in 1237 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,000 jail, I said I could see myself marrying you, you know, you 1238 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,680 cool? He was like, he's really one of 1239 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,040 those people that's really impacting the people lives and 1240 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,480 this world. So he really has a good heart 1241 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,720 and like he, you know, I could see myself marrying him for a 1242 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,960 good personality. And he'll probably be like. 1243 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,360 But you guys are still on communication? 1244 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,680 Yeah, yeah. Damn man. 1245 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,120 Let's lid off and on, but. You think he still feels? 1246 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,440 The same way as you, of course. The love. 1247 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,640 Will never run dry. Damn man. 1248 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,520 Hell yeah. And and. 1249 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:30,480 I don't know why I was I don't know why I was thinking when I 1250 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,160 first, when I first got with him throughout the day, throughout 1251 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,040 that time and it's all over on social media, I got my I got his 1252 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,760 name tatted on my face for real do. 1253 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:40,840 You still have. It. 1254 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:41,600 Huh. Do you still have it? 1255 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:42,560 This is on this side or this side? 1256 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,680 One of those bro you got his name tatted on. 1257 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,640 Your face so so when it comes to that, I will say the word 1258 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:53,240 commitment. Commitment is something that 1259 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,440 you. Show that's a whole different 1260 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,440 type of commitment yeah when I. 1st when I first did it, like I 1261 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,800 really loved him. I think everybody's like you 1262 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,960 doing this for clout, you doing this because he has a big 1263 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:09,320 platform, you doing this because you feel me just just to get 1264 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,560 something from me and I and it wasn't that I really like the 1265 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,240 guy, you feel me. He did a lot of stuff for me and 1266 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:20,080 like just in ways it wasn't like money, it wasn't it was just his 1267 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,360 personality and everything. So it was like when I got it, I 1268 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,840 meant it. So who do you think is more? 1269 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,120 Romantic gay people or straight people? 1270 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,560 Gay people. How come? 1271 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:36,880 More emotion. More, more understanding, more 1272 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,960 of connections when it comes to straight people, I don't really 1273 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,720 like straight people really, really understand what true 1274 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,880 emotion you feel me. What true understanding of being 1275 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,560 with each other. Gay people, they give that it is 1276 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,720 the only time a gay person don't give that is when they just want 1277 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:55,760 to be free. But when you. 1278 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,240 Yeah, you get together with a boy on a boy, you really 1279 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,400 understand the emotions that both of y'all give, the emotions 1280 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,960 that y'all have. And if y'all, let's say if y'all 1281 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,520 really into each other and y'all breaking with each other, those 1282 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,440 emotions are still going to be there. 1283 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,280 Hell yeah. You don't want to see you and 1284 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,640 another person fucking with each other because y'all still with 1285 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,600 each other. So boys are more emotional, more 1286 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,680 affectionate and more understanding, more loving. 1287 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,360 And I feel like when a love. Where the love come from? 1288 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,560 An addiction part, when I said love is addictive, it's more 1289 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,560 real deep, real addictive. And when when it come to boys, 1290 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,520 you feel me? Oh yeah, so. 1291 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,680 Yeah, it's. More on the gay side. 1292 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,560 Yeah, man. Do you think there is something 1293 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,760 else that you personally are still hiding from or do you 1294 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,960 think that you've been fairly open from everything that you've 1295 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:53,360 been, I guess like associating yourself with who you're 1296 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,720 associating yourself with and also to like what you yourself 1297 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,080 personally have become as a as a as a man. 1298 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,680 Yeah, I don't think I'm. Hiding nothing. 1299 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:05,840 Everything has been open for me. I'm this is not a facade. 1300 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,240 This is not no gay baiting. This is not me just being with 1301 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,120 gay people because what they have to offer when they throw 1302 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,960 yourself at me or what they have to give. 1303 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,400 I didn't think I was going to come to the gay side, nor that I 1304 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:22,200 think I would be a social media influencer to the gay people or 1305 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,000 to just anybody. But it was just something that 1306 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,960 really just it'd be. It'd be. 1307 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,840 It became my. It became me. 1308 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,080 Hell yeah. You feel me? 1309 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,360 It's just me. This is real. 1310 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,560 Like real me. No different personality, no 1311 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,160 different nobody. It's just me. 1312 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,960 So you feel me. I I feel like I was destined to 1313 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,800 be what I am now. No. 1314 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,520 Hell yeah, man. No, I think I think it's very 1315 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,440 touching because it's like a lot of people can definitely relate 1316 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:51,640 to you, man. People that are watching this 1317 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,600 right now, they can definitely relate to you and they don't 1318 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,440 even know how to go about it. I think every answer you've 1319 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,640 given so far, man, can give a lot of people a lot of like 1320 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:00,800 their awakening, you know what I mean? 1321 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,960 Like, like you could definitely start a whole lot of people's 1322 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,720 like opening out, coming out of the DL. 1323 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,000 Movement coming out of the DL. Movement and then you going 1324 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,400 about really inspiring a lot of people to feel comfortable to 1325 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,760 come out. I mean, let alone like you have 1326 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,600 a family of your own, man. And there are people out there 1327 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,840 that have families that aren't till this day comfortable with 1328 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,400 coming out, you know, and you are here telling your side of 1329 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,440 the story and, and, and your upbringing and there's a lot of 1330 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,600 people that can relate to you, man. 1331 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,120 So that's cool that you're still willing to come here on this 1332 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,520 podcast and Share your story, man. 1333 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,800 Of course, of course. Yeah, it's amazing. 1334 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,040 It's amazing to share this story to get it out to the people for 1335 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,600 the to the the people to understand that you don't got to 1336 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,000 hide. You can come out and and just be 1337 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,200 yourself. You know exactly for. 1338 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,560 Me. And that's that's that's really 1339 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,160 what I'm getting a message and preaching to the people out 1340 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,440 there, you know, and again, man, from your. 1341 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,880 Pages, they can definitely relate to you, man, you know you 1342 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,160 know this year yourself too, man yeah, yeah, they could they. 1343 01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,440 They they be really like relating people be texting me 1344 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,880 people saying I love your videos, you don't help me or 1345 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,120 some I remember a guy said I could be myself now I don't have 1346 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,400 to hide and this and that and it was just amazing. 1347 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,520 One guy said I'm he's happy, you know, right. 1348 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,480 I'm bisexual now and this and that. 1349 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:19,000 So it was really a good. It's really good to see a lot of 1350 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,840 people and help a lot of people and for people to understand 1351 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,560 that it is OK to be yourself and you don't got to hide, you know, 1352 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,840 just be yourself. That's it, You know, just be 1353 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,640 yourself, that's all. Just be you and that's it. 1354 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,720 So what do you think? Is next for you. 1355 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:41,960 I think you know. Going forward, more videos, 1356 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:47,000 probably, Hopefully more podcasts and probably dropping 1357 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,280 the clothing brand soon. Hopefully I could do that 1358 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,080 because we're working on that right now. 1359 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,480 You feel me? Just of course, one of the brand 1360 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,560 names is just Be you or be yourself. 1361 01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,800 The other one I I got published on the game magazine for making 1362 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,280 a joke. I was like Stay Deuce and 1363 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,720 dangerous. So we're coming out with, are 1364 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,520 you douche right now? Yeah, he's at a bottom. 1365 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,400 Hey, by the way, I don't know if, you know, he's a virgin. 1366 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:13,720 He's 20 years old. He's a virgin. 1367 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,120 That's amazing. Yeah. 1368 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,560 He never had no experience. So all this right here that 1369 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,000 that, you know what I'm saying? Hypothetical. 1370 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,080 He don't even know what he likes yet. 1371 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,360 Wow. Yeah. 1372 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,400 But so it's just something that he's really trying to read and 1373 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,640 all experience and shit. Yeah. 1374 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,800 That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying. 1375 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,040 To work on it. Yeah, you know, he's he's he's. 1376 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,800 Not in play, it's. Not wrong with that. 1377 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,560 There's some action I'm. Waiting till I'm 2121. 1378 01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,080 Because then I'm gonna. I'm gonna be able to drink 1379 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,120 things, gonna be able to drink. And then enjoy it. 1380 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,160 But for real. He for like she is a virgin 1381 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,520 though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. 1382 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,280 So it's kind of like, you know, playing the both parts, you 1383 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,480 know, I mean, I think like, you know, me, Julian, if if he were 1384 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,560 to be here, you know, we go about playing that role of, you 1385 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,880 know, really having that wild side and he's over here being a 1386 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,040 virgin and shit. So it kind of, you know, like it 1387 01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:00,440 does like it balances out. Yeah, you. 1388 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:01,560 Know what I'm saying? It does the part. 1389 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,960 But I actually can't wait for you to tell the story of the 1390 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,160 first time you do have. I can't wait for you to share 1391 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:07,560 that. That's going to be amazing. 1392 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:08,960 Yeah, you want to hear the story? 1393 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:10,600 This looking guy. Yeah. 1394 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,080 Oh yeah, the podcast. The first time you do it, 1395 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:14,680 actually. I'll let you know. 1396 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,720 I'll make. Sure to I'll make sure to take a 1397 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,480 video. Nah, I not true. 1398 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,720 Hey. But real quick. 1399 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,320 Though Dre, what would you say was the craziest DM you've ever 1400 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,320 received on Instagram? You have like a crazy memory of 1401 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,640 Adm from anyone. Maybe it's already you're like a 1402 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,800 athlete or like a the craziest DMI got. 1403 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,680 Musician or like? Anyone like the craziest DMI 1404 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:33,680 got? Someone said. 1405 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,560 Oh shit, someone said. You can't even say. 1406 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:45,800 It someone said would you? Would you disgrade me and laugh 1407 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,400 at me for 10 to 15 and I and make me go broke and I'll give 1408 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,520 you my money? Damn, wait. 1409 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:54,600 No. You don't. 1410 01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:00,760 Would you ever start one? If if if I was like, not 1411 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,920 committed to someone, I probably would. 1412 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,120 OK, so it's the relationship. That's holding you back well. 1413 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,600 I still love the person and they still 100%. 1414 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,080 So it's like, I don't think I can really do that. 1415 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,520 So, so so what's? Stopping you from doing or 1416 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,760 making a page is by you having this relationship with someone 1417 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,680 or at least like a this bond and. 1418 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,680 Bond, Bond, bond. Yeah, pretty much pretty. 1419 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,320 Much OK. Got it. 1420 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,800 You don't think that person that you have a bond with with except 1421 01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,680 you wanted to make one? They're not into the. 1422 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,280 Content got it got it got it got. 1423 01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,720 It OK, cool interesting I just thought I'd ask I mean it's 1424 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,320 yeah, that's interesting so so you guys so you obviously enjoy 1425 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,560 just more so than the aspect of just doing things behind the 1426 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,040 camera versus on camera like like I mean, yes, you're a 1427 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,120 social media influencer you go about posting on IG on TikTok, 1428 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,520 but like you don't really care about going about posting your 1429 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,680 personal like endeavours, but on a platform like you don't really 1430 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,760 care about that interesting self pleasure slip. 1431 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,760 I think that's the. The pinnacle of the. 1432 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:07,080 Question would you start an OF? But you said Nah, I mean. 1433 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,640 Probably down the line, but I don't know hypothetically. 1434 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,120 Let's just say tomorrow you start one. 1435 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,200 What are you posting on there? Hypothetical if you if if you 1436 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:17,480 did, what are you posting on there? 1437 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,520 I'll probably. Post myself, just you, just. 1438 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:25,440 Me, I'll probably post. Like some teas and I feel like 1439 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,200 it would go good just hypothetically but. 1440 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,280 You hypothetically, your page starts. 1441 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,160 Have you ever thought about making one? 1442 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:37,960 Yeah. OK. 1443 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,480 I was down and out. When you were down and out, you 1444 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,480 were. Thinking about, yeah, you know, 1445 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:42,840 fuck this shit, man, I'm going to do this. 1446 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,680 What I heard you make a. Lot of money, but I mean I'm 1447 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,600 just curious, you know, I'm saying I just thought because 1448 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,800 I'm over here thinking like damn bro, like I think that should be 1449 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,240 lit If you did, you know, but as fuck man probably would. 1450 01:06:55,240 --> 01:07:00,200 Probably, probably, you know, pop out, pump off, you know, 1451 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,360 hell yeah, man, fuck. Yeah, look man, although you and 1452 01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,560 I are in the same age, like I said earlier, we can relate. 1453 01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,000 If there was a younger version of yourself saying in front of 1454 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,200 you, and this could be a very on the spot question, but what 1455 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,600 would you tell the younger Dre in front of you right now? 1456 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,320 What advice would you give him some of that you've experienced 1457 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,440 throughout your years? I. 1458 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,800 Was told my younger self to love. 1459 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,240 Yourself. Do better, make better 1460 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:29,840 decisions, you know, go far as you can, as you could and be 1461 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,040 able to live your life to the fullest and not get in trouble 1462 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:43,040 and just just just flourish in life and, you know, have the 1463 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,760 best energy and the best you just could be. 1464 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,800 That's it, Dre. I love that shit, man. 1465 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,920 Hell yeah, fuck yeah, man. Shout out Dre guys. 1466 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,960 Huge shout to Dre for the audience watching who are just 1467 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,400 getting to know you here for the first time. 1468 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,440 Where can they find you? All your socials, everything, 1469 01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,400 Where can they find you? You can find me on Instagram. 1470 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,860 Drain under score 1K you can find me on TikTok Dre under 1471 01:08:01,860 --> 01:08:05,800 score 1K you'll see me like probably like gold teeth in a 1472 01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,440 hat. There you go man, shout out. 1473 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:08,480 Dre, one thing for coming on man. 1474 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,040 Thank you once again. Go check them out if you guys 1475 01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,040 have not already. What are you doing? 1476 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,160 Check Dre out. Yes Sir. 1477 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,439 You guys want to check me out the Brandon cardoso.com for my 1478 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,920 socials and that link. Let's have a nice conversation. 1479 01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,000 Come on tap that link. I'm going to show you something 1480 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,479 good and if you want to find me. You can go to theparkerreed.com 1481 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,520 and press that link right there and send me a message. 1482 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:29,080 There you go baby. And if you. 1483 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,399 Guys, do want to see the full uncensored version of our 1484 01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:34,000 podcast? Go check it out in our Patreon, 1485 01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,960 the link down below. Other than that, Dre, once 1486 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,520 again, thank you for coming on and we'll see you guys in the 1487 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:40,399 next one. Peace.