What got you ready to then? Having to be open and
comfortable to show the world who Dre truly.
Is I just woke up one day and I was like, I don't want to be
dealing anymore. I just want to like, you know,
be open. How common do you say DL men
are? It's a lot of DL men, but since
they don't have safe spaces, they don't want to come out.
They rather go to the grave because they're scared of the
reputation what might happen. I mean being DL this is in these
times and age is really like crazy.
Is it possible to be straight for like 20 years and then
realize that you're into guys? Yeah, you could be straight for
20 years because it's like, you'll get nervous like you want
to do with a guy, but you get nervous.
You're not DL anymore though. No, no, I'm not DL anymore, no.
Is it really DL if you say you're DL to the public?
No, it's like you're out. Most DL men today, they usually
have wife and kids. Really.
A lot of people think we're DL. Do you feel like you DL?
DL or not Kyle Jacobs he overly gone but.
Julian Barboza DL or not DL, what do you think?
Welcome to the Wild Podcast. I'm Brandon Cardoso.
I'm D Julian Barboza. Bro.
Why You're not Julian, bro? Brian, Julian.
Bro Oh. Well, I've forgotten I'm Parker,
but it is Julian's birthday. It it is Julian's birthday,
guys, as we're filming this episode, it is Mr. Barboza's
birthday. It's 25th birthday. 20 bro 25 Do
you Remember Me? I remember being 25 man.
Yeah, it's 10 years ago, right? This fucking guy.
Look, I'm just going to say this as you know what, Let's call it
Julian. Actually, it was just FaceTime.
I, you know, I did text him and I texted him last night at
midnight wishing him a nice happy birthday.
Send him a nice, pretty, pretty nice paragraph.
But we'll see if oh Julian. Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, Dear Julian,
happy birthday to you. Happy birthday.
To you. We're in the podcast right now.
I want to wish you a happy birthday.
Hope everything's, you know, treating you right so far.
How was your morning? Or is it still morning for you?
Yeah, it's morning. Oh, you slept great.
You know, I got some tacos. I'm on the way headed to the
pool party right now. Wow, so you already said it.
You're already starting your birthday early.
Yeah. The festivities.
Yes, the festivities are starting earlier in the day.
There we go, man. There you go, beautiful.
I want to. Say thank you, fella.
I appreciate, you know, from across the globe, you know, a
birthday. I really do.
Of course, man. And just want to say that Parker
and I both have a really big gift for you when you come home.
Yeah, we have something very big.
OK, man. Well, I know you guys are the
big boys, so, you know, look, I don't.
I don't doubt it. Look, we doesn't want to ruin
any surprises. Hey man, Hey, you enjoy the rest
of your birthday man. Today is your day you know, and
I really hope you continue to enjoy as you should.
And 25 looks good on you my man. I'm telling you, it looks good.
Thank you man, I appreciate it of course.
Just 25 years of Julia not being a father yet, you know.
Hey, man, that's the big, big important one.
Hey, look, 25, I'm not going to say nothing.
I'm not going to manifest it, but I just want to say this,
man, you are 1/4 of a century away to 100 years old, hey.
Sounds great man. I'm I'm, I'm happy.
More alive to live, but all right, man, well, look, have a
great rest of your day. We don't want to interrupt, you
know the joy and Barbosa day, but just know today's your day.
Enjoy how you always will. Lee, you.
Guys you have fun. Good luck and see you guys.
I hope there's some videos. I'll take some videos for your.
Partner. Yeah, you need to sell them you
know I need to pay my bills. I.
Got you man. I'll show you some videos and.
Stuff. All right bro, I'm trying to
take notes. He wants to.
He wants to learn, man. He wants to learn.
But I got you. Yeah.
All right, man. Well, look, we don't want to
take much over your your day. So you go about having an
amazing day and we'll see you home all.
Right I'll. See you guys.
I'll see you. Well, happy birthday, Jillian.
Happy birthday to the man 25. Holy shit.
As we are here in Miami, OK, we have an amazing guest.
I would say this is probably one of the first DL guests.
We've been talking about DLS for a long time, but I think this is
the first real DL we've had on the podcast.
No, it is true, man. That is true.
I think this guest is really going to go about telling his
side of the story, you know, getting to know him a bit, you
know, getting to really dig a nice deep hole, You know what I
mean with his guest. I don't know what that means,
but. Oh, I didn't mean it.
I I meant like we're going to get to know him.
OK, Yeah. OK, well, can you?
Do the honors of introducing him.
Yeah, but I mean before. Hold on.
I'm intimidated. Well, no, OK, my bad.
I didn't mean to. OK, so I'm going to say this.
So I got introduced right to this amazing guest that we have
on today because, well, first of all, you, you found him on on
your feed. Yeah, I I saw him on my feed.
He had like ADL series talking about DL, like just a bunch of
crazy stories. And I just, I feel like I had to
like find out more, like find out more of genuine DL stories.
Right. Yeah, well, that's why today we
have the amazing guest, Dre. How?
Y'all doing how y'all doing? How y'all doing?
What's going on, Dre? How you doing man?
I'm doing good looking all blinged out and all shiny.
Man, I like your fit today for real.
Appreciate it. I appreciate.
It stands out. It's good to.
Be here. It's good to thank God for
inviting me here today and everything.
Of course, man, for someone that's DL, man, you seem very
out there with the with the fit man.
Yeah, yeah. Well, actually, how to bring it.
Or or you're not DL anymore though.
No, no, I'm not DL anymore. No that.
Was that was going to be my first question because I was
going to say, is it really DL if you say you're DL to the public?
No, it's like you're out. Yeah, you're out, you know.
But it's like, it's like people still thought I was DL when I
was posting when I was posting. Like you still DL but you're
posting up. Like no I'm not DL.
Anymore, No, for real, and just for the audience, we're just
trying to get to know you who don't know you.
If you were to go about giving a nice little like summary, you
know, synopsis of who Dre really is, man.
I mean, yes, we said you're DL and all this, but like, like,
who are you, man? Like like what you be doing?
Like what's your life like? Well, before Dre became Dre, I
was really working and then like, I was working on like a a
gay bar doing security. And then when I got like and I
was still making videos, but when I got fired, I really
tapped in. I started doing social media
but. Why'd you get fired?
All the boys they they like were into me, so that like the.
The. Owners, yeah, the owners, they
didn't like it. So they said, hey, you got to
like, you got to, you got to go. We, we, we could find someone
else. You know, it's not going to
work. And it was just too much.
So I started doing social media and then I dated like a famous
social media person like who who's do mug beans and stuff and
then after that. Female or male?
Male. Male.
Yeah. And then after that we separated
off a misunderstanding and then I just started doing like the DO
Chronicles, as they say. And yeah, it just blew up from
there. Like one day I just posted a
video and then I was like, you feel me?
And it just went up from there. But I'm I'm I'll be chilling.
I'll be chilling for real. And my own stuff hosting.
We got a party tonight at Cloud 9 in Fort Lauderdale, so make
sure y'all do come. Other than that, I just be
chilling, you know? There we go.
My own thing. Before you were security at gay
clubs, did you already know that you started liking guys?
Or was it like like when was like you would say you're?
I mean DL Awakening if that's the thing.
I didn't really, I want to say I really started liking guys.
I think I just started dibbling dabbling, like I started
watching, like, you know, you know, like gay.
Yeah. How old would you say you
started watching the gay? When I got older, like 1918,
stuff like that, I never did know I.
Still, like throughout high school, middle school, whatever,
you weren't. Really in high school, in high
school, I wasn't like really into boys like that thing.
When I drifted out of high school, that's when I started
like getting really into it, like just really deep, you know,
COVID came around and I just said I just wanted to like, you
know, experience on different on the yeah.
No, I mean like honestly, it's like, I mean, have you ever had
a female experience? Yeah, I always had a female.
Experience always, oh really always.
And you just not for you. I mean, it was for me, but I
guess when I started trying with guys, it was like, OK, I felt
with it more so. Got it.
Damn, man, that's so interesting of a story you got.
You know, I think a lot of people, as you, as you said too,
you started making videos and a lot and a lot of people could
relate to you and get a lot of views on your, on your at least
the reels that I've seen. I mean, even before we even
started this podcast, he was going live on TikTok.
You know what I mean? Like this man's over here, like
really grinding through. But there's a lot of people that
watch you and relate to you. And I think that's a really good
thing because not everyone is comfortable of coming out now,
although you do claim DL at least prior.
It's like you felt comfortable in a way where you were like,
now, now it's time to be open. Now it's time to let the world
know like who I really am. What got you starting from being
DL to then now being open? What got you ready to then now
having to be open and comfortable to show the world
who Dre truly is. I think you just got to be like
comfortable with yourself. I just woke up one day and I was
like, I don't want to be dealing anymore.
I just want to like, you know, be open.
So, you know, even though I still like girls and boys, I, I
came out as bisexual and what motive me is like, I thought it
like people will be like, you know, Nah, 'cause you got to get
away from me or anything. But my mom was fine with it.
The people around me, they was fine with it.
So it really motivated me to like, you know, just keep going
and and, you know, express myself more.
So that's really why I really just came out, you know?
But so when did you come out? Like what year?
I came out, this is 2026. I came around like 2024.
Damn, it's like 2 years ago. A year and a half ago.
Damn man. OK, so like what's your type?
My type. Butch Queens, you said?
What Butch Queens? Buzz Queens Butch.
Queens, Butch. Queens.
What's a Butch Queens? I heard that term, but I don't
know. Like before there was, you know,
it was feminine, then it was like if you act like a dude but
also act like a like and you got feminine ways, they call you a
Bush queen. I've.
Not you heard of that? Well, I heard the term but I
don't know what it means. Yeah, like that's, that's my
term of it. I feel like you, you, you act
like a dude, but you also act like a you got some feminine
ways to you so. Like a homie huh?
Like a homie vibe. Nah, it's.
We're like feminine guy. It's like you still feminine,
but you, you, you present like a man.
OK, so. Which one of us is more your
type, if at all? If at all like if I was into
y'all, I mean both of y'all, y'all y'all look good bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which one of us would say?
Like, would you say that we're at any part?
But what is it, Butch Queens? Like I say, like you, you could
give off like feminine, he could give off shit, OK?
No, you'd be real? I asked.
He he could get off, you could give off like Bush Queen.
I'm Bush Queen, yeah. Yeah, No, no, no, but that's
fine. I, I think, I think it's valid
because like I've, well, I've never, I'm hearing this term for
the first time now. So I think it's lit that like,
like you can like within your own eyes can determine who would
be within the best fitting of that part.
And I think that's really interesting because you know
Julian, right? Oh, he's the other coach on his
podcast. Today's his birthday.
Amazing guy. What would would you classify
him as the Butch queen? I don't know.
I don't. Even know I don't I don't I
don't. Does he give off like feminine
or like anything? Not at all.
He got curly hair though. He got curly hair.
I mean, no, I don't. No, no, OK, it's fine.
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
But anyways, OK, cool. So I want to kind of go back a
little bit, a little bit of history.
So like, how was like your childhood, you know, like how
was it growing up? Did you always live in Florida?
No, I lived in New Jersey. New Jersey, right?
So how was it growing up in New Jersey?
It was amazing. When my grandma was alive, she
loved me like dearly. So it was like everything was
good. I never had like no bad
experience. I never like experienced nothing
bad. I always like New Jersey was
amazing. My mom spoiled me.
Yeah, people, my uncle and my aunties just spoiled me.
So it was, it was always good. New Jersey was a a great time to
to live in at the time. So it wasn't really bad at
growing up. I was just chill.
I used to listen to music, you know, really a lot.
And that's how I got into playing drums.
I don't play drums no more, but I was really just.
Yeah, in different ways, yeah. Yeah, I'm.
I'm just fucking. I was fucking with you.
But yeah, and that's, that's what I really like.
Grew up off church and everything like that.
So. OK.
Yeah, cool. Richard, have you ever gotten
with a New Jersey man? No, I wasn't into like, man at
that time. But so it was only once you came
to Florida. Once I left Pennsylvania and I
came to Florida, yeah, that's that's one state.
So you wait. You you're from New Jersey, then
Pennsylvania. And then Florida.
So when did you move to Florida? Florida, 2015.
OK. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. OK.
So years ago, yeah, I got you. How?
How do you right now, if you don't mind me?
Asking I'm 26. 26 so we're the same age.
Yeah, yeah. Damn.
Interesting man Holy shit. OK cool.
So you, so you lived here when you were like what?
Like 7/16/17. Yeah, yeah.
Around there. Damn bro.
OK, so you moved here and in like your life you'd say like it
changed, but for the better. I'll say, yeah.
I mean, we had some ups and downs and rough times.
But. I'll say my life just switched.
I wouldn't think I'll be doing like I wouldn't think I'll be a
social media influencer. But before that, my life was, it
was good, you know, up and downs, but it still was good.
So the only thing in my life, my life changed like you feel like
2 years ago. Like right now I'm dealing with
some stuff through like government stuff, but you be in
the wrong place at the wrong time.
But other than that, everything else was was really pleasant now
so. So have you ever like just to go
back to the whole DL topic because I'm really just curious,
since you stopped being DL two years ago, in that time frame,
have you ever exposed anybody that is DL or do you think do
you not believe in exposing D OS?
I still don't believe in exposing D OS.
I mean, when I when I did this topic, I I was just like telling
my stories, you feel me? I don't believe in exposing DLS
because no one exposed me at the time.
I didn't experience like no one ever exposing.
Nobody ever put me out there. No one ever said, oh, like
drain, I'm mad at you. I'm finished so.
Why do you think some people will be exposing DLS though?
I think some people just feel like if they can't have you,
they rather just put you out there or if they they do without
a like pettiness they do. Without.
Yeah, that's crazy. You feel me?
They. Do no, that's fucked up.
Hurt or they do without a like a joke and they don't realize like
some people really be crazy. But me, I didn't, I was not a
crazy person. So if someone did, I wouldn't be
mad. But of course, I'll probably
feel hurt about it because, you know, a lot of people be hiding
from their families. A lot of people really can't
come out. I didn't have like, people on
TikTok comments, you know, like, hey, I wish to like, talk to a
dude, but I can't because if my family knew, they would kick me
out. So it was a lot of stuff.
I mean, it could really ruin somebody's life, yeah.
It could really bad, like real bad.
Someone could get beat up or the woman could, you know, expose
them and now they want to just like UN alive or the woman.
And that's how my friend died like her dude, God rest her
peace, you know, make she rest her girl a la That's how she
died. Like he still felt like even
though since he came out or whatever the case may be, he
thought like the world was like against him, against him, like
the girls was oh, you can't be with nobody else by the end of
the day. You choose your own life and you
choose your own way. You feeling she'll fucking?
Die because of that. Yeah, like it was so crazy what
he did. And God rest her soul, she was
really taking over TikTok. She was really taking over
TikTok. A beautiful a beautiful woman, a
beautiful boy, actually a beautiful fanboy that was
transitioning, but really beautiful, really talented and
everything. So when I first made that video,
I really was speaking about like her and other other, you know,
trans woman out. There.
So the guy killed her. Yeah.
That's that must be the video we're saying is not worth to
unalive somebody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he you
know, I guess if no one can have if if I can have you, no one can
have you. So it was really like one of
those things like, wow, that was crazy.
A really close friend and dearly miss and yeah.
So I really made that video dedicated to her, but also
dedicated to a lot of trans women out there because they get
an unalive just for just the smallest things and it like a
guy know what he's doing before he do it.
So you choose your your choices in life, no one could make you
choose them. So I feel like in the gay
community, there's a lot that goes on that just be swept under
the rug. Oh yeah, man, no, actually rest
in peace. And, and, and and that's fucking
crazy how shit like that be going on even till this day and
age, you know? Like I just feel like it's so
crazy too that like people in 2026 are still like going after
others and not just that, but like others lives, you know what
I mean? It's so crazy.
Like we'll never get over that hump.
It seems like it's crazy. Yeah, it's real crazy.
Love. Love is crazy.
Love is love is a real, it's love is really addictive.
That's you know, they say, they say drinking, but love is really
addictive. Social media, social media love
is really addictive too. Like once you get in a social
relationship, it's hard because now it's like everybody see you,
everybody know you. It's like you're attached to
that person or it's like if y'all break up with each other,
I don't want to leave each other because y'all connected with
each other. But it's really the love part is
really addictive because once you try to like, you know, pull
away from it, it's like you can't get away from it.
So it's so hard to like, you know, you know, like it's just
so hard. Right.
No, it is, man. It is.
And that's with anyone, man. It's so hard to pull away from.
That it's hard. It's hard like.
I do want to ask you a very specific question.
It's going to be very specific, but I want to ask you a question
like if you were to look at yourself from a third person,
right? Like let's say like you sitting
where I'm sitting looking at you, would you say that I could
already notice from your whole physique attire that I can know
that you're gay? I say no, no, no, it wouldn't be
possible still to this day unless I told someone they don't
know. OK, so would you consider
yourself gay? I'll consider myself, I consider
myself like a openly free spirit person.
Do I say I'm gay? Like do you only get with men?
If I choose to, but I can still get a woman if I want to.
OK, OK, that's my question. So if you were to go about
getting with, let's just say in this example, like let's say you
want to get with the guy, you know, whoever, whoever you just
want to get with, but let's just say it's within like a male, Do
you make the first approach or do they make an approach to you?
Because I'm looking at you, man. I'm just like, bro, you like,
you know what I'm saying? Like you're cool, like you know
what I'm saying? But it's just like in a way
where, you know, many people I feel like would go about saying
that like most gay men are on the more feminine side where
they where they more most stand out as as gay, right?
I mean, that's just the truth. But I'm just asking you, like
you just said too, that you just don't really see yourself as
that kind of guy. Are you making the first move?
Like how does that work? No, I don't really.
I don't make the first move. People make the.
I feel like to me, based off your look, like if you walk into
a gay club, like every gay guy is going to be on you, no.
Right, No, right based off no, that's true all.
The interviews like, Oh yeah, I love a masculine guy.
You can't. Even tell that's true though,
that's a good thing, but I'm saying that's true.
So that's like more so within also to a part of my question,
question where it's like are you getting more most of the
approach or are you doing the approaching?
I get mostly of the approach I really do like I deal with
social anxiety so unless I'm drunk I don't really approach.
Hell yeah, there you go. But I get approach more and they
asked me like are you are you gay or you this or you that?
And I say, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm openly bisexual or I'm gay And,
and you feel me? I'm, I'm preaching, I'm
preaching to mostly the masculine people because a lot
of people think there's only feminine, but it's really a lot
of masculine people. They, they, they still like,
they still, you know, they still have interest in women.
They still have interest in guys.
But there is masculine dudes out there, you feel me?
And I think everybody in the gay community think it's just one,
it's a look. It's not really a look
everybody, I mean. I suspect for me.
It is, but it's like also too, like it's kind of a guessing
game, you know what I mean? I think it depends on what area
you're at, right, 'cause like like I think like there's a lot
of people like, I mean, obviously if you're going to a
gay bar, I mean like, maybe you know what I'm saying?
Like probably paint a bigger picture for you, but you're
walking around the mall, it's like.
Yeah, it's not like you would never tell.
Like you would never know. Right.
No, Yeah. It's like it's one of those
things, you know, it's, it's actually like very, very, very
crazy of a spectrum if you really think about it.
But I do want to ask you too. So man, you look built.
Do you work out? I don't work out that much.
I need I need to get back into it, but I really just I think it
it's mostly like natural, but it's real not true.
It's not, it's not like. Genetics.
Yeah, yeah, like, yeah, you know, stuff like that.
It's really, you feel me? It's like just in there.
But yeah, that's, that's really what it is.
I I might do push ups here and there, but it's really like I I
really do need to get back into working out.
But yeah, it's it's really not true.
Visual, but working out. I saw a story.
It's going to make sense why I brought up working out that you
had. You went to jail.
Yeah. Is it OK if I ask you the
question as to why you went to jail?
Yeah. Two years ago, Allegedly.
Well, you are allegedly. Well, yeah, that's right.
Allegedly. So two years ago I was with this
girl. She she was like real cool.
And then I don't know what happened.
She started like changing, but I didn't know she was from like
the hood know that I know she came from a like crazy
background. So I was chilling with her.
I was going through stuff at home, a lot of stuff at home.
Like it was just so much, you know, getting kicked out.
You know, my mom was going through her own thing.
So I said OK let me just go and chill with this girl and I
started going and chilling with her.
But throughout the times like what the girl was doing was
crazy and if I had a knew better than not be in that time and
place I would change it. But one day she, she I guess,
you know, Blase Blase and the cops came and then I guess they
saw her, both of us. And then she admitted to doing
something that she did not really do.
And then I got caught up in it. So I was at the wrong place at
the wrong time. And then like months, months
away, me and my mom got into it. And then, you know, cops came
involved and they did they, you know, I gave them my name and
they just took me and I was in jail for like a week maybe.
Yeah. You know, I was in like a what
was it when I got in there? I think I was in like a a
spiritual pod and everybody was chill.
You know, everybody prayed everyday.
They read a verse from the Bible.
And then once they called my name, I just I was out of there.
I didn't really turn back. So but the recently, I recently
went to jail because I went out of town to make sure my grandma
was OK and yeah. And then they said, you feel me?
He turned it into the court. And then, yeah, so that that
whole, that whole picture went viral.
Everybody's like, that's the dude from Instagram.
He'd be talking about what he like.
And it was just, you know, good, good balls.
Good. Well, they're, they're saying
he'd be talking about what he like.
They're saying you were in heaven.
They were saying you were in heaven, in jail.
Oh, when I would know. People say.
Yeah. No, no, they wasn't really
saying I was doing on the jail, but it was mostly saying like he
was the dude that was doing the DL Chronicles.
The DL videos, it wasn't viral. I got you, man.
Yeah. Yeah.
Shit. Well, sorry to happen.
I mean, obviously, you know, you hear it today and I'm.
I'm glad that you, you know. I appreciate it.
That was a pretty wild double life though.
He had a wife and kids. Yeah, I was like, and he was DL.
Yeah. Most, most, most, most DL man,
today they usually have wife and kids.
Really. No, like I remember a time and
I, you know, I'm saying this now because I can say it, me and my
being was going through it, but we was never really together
like that. And I remember one time there
was this dude, like I used to get nervous when I go around him
because I saw I was DL and like this is my first time doing with
a guy. But the third time we do it, I
said, I'm going to go to the gym, I'm going to go to the gym
workout. Well, I didn't go to the gym
workout. I wanted to meet up with the
dude. So most, most DL man you know,
if you know like if they go passed out a certain time, they
usually doing something. But most of the time a lot of
deals have like BMSA, lot of deals have wives and the wife
could be good, the girl could be good, but they just want to play
around and that's what it usually comes from about.
Being DL is like having fun and secret.
Oh yeah, no, 100%. I mean, I, I, I think, I think
when I, when I do think of the term DLI, do think it's more so
within good fun of it being a secret again to whoever it is
that's do. You think they get a rush from
the secret? I feel like they do because like
your girl will never know, your wife will never.
I mean, that's. Fucking.
Crazy, your wife, your woman, they're they're they're never
going to check your your back end.
They're never finna check down here.
They're never finna you're feeling like you finna go back
to do the same thing. You finna bust down your girl
and then maybe you want to bust down a dude, or maybe you want
to get bust down something your girl can't do another man might
want to do. That's a good point, yeah, Yeah.
Yeah. So are you a top or a bottom?
I'm a top. Like only top ever.
Yeah, I love you. Never bought them.
No, I love doing. Guys, would you ever bought
them? No, I love doing guys.
OK, Yeah, yeah, bottom was, I mean, bottom was not for me.
Have you tried bottoming? No.
OK. You just you just automatically
know it's not. Yeah, this is not for me.
I don't want to sniff you feel me?
Got you. And even if it was a time where
I did try, it still wasn't for me.
Got you. Yeah, Yeah.
Makes sense. Yeah, all.
Right. But Mr. Dre.
Yes. So, OK, so you said you, you
never bought them before. Do you think there will ever be
a point in time, and I'm even talking about five years, 10
years from now, which obviously we can never guess, but from
where your standpoint is now, do you think you would ever bought
them or at least try it out? If I get old and I get limp,
hell Nah. Even that.
Nah, Nah. OK.
It's not your, you know, it's just not your thing.
Nah. Got you, man.
Got you, I think. You never put a finger.
Not a thing, Hey, not a finger. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a man for
real. I'm not there.
You get what I'm saying? Gotcha.
Well, I mean, that's why you like what you like.
You know what I mean? That makes sense.
I guess we should get to the segment of DL or not.
So you we're going to show you a picture of somebody, you're
going to say whether they're DL or not, just based off their
vibe. And it's doing that we
personally know they don't. Claim to be gay or anything but
do you think they might be secretly DL and.
We we know them. So it's, it's, it doesn't
matter, girl. It's it's what you think.
I want you to use your radar. There are homies so it don't
fucking matter what your answer is, it's just be honest.
If you look at them by their looks, are they DL or are they
not? That's it.
I got you. I just want to make it known
that we know them. We're.
Cool with this. OK, OK, cool.
All right. I think you should go.
First, OK, so DL or not Alan Cruz, Mr. Exclusive Cruz,
honest, honest answer. I mean he.
He looked like he could, he could play a little, but he
looked like, you know, he might get a little shy.
So Nah, I don't know. I don't know.
No, but that's a good answer though.
But he he looked, he looked good, though.
But he. Yeah, you know, but like if he
was on some like, hey, yo Dre slide.
Not that's not my my type. You want to say he's your type?
He's not my type. OK, but he but he, he, he.
He he he look like, you know, he could play.
He look like he probably bought him a little if he.
I like that. OK, cool.
Sure, sure, sure, sure. This is Dre's answer.
I like that. No pun intended.
Alright, but so next one Justin Laid, do you think he's DL?
We have did videos together. He interviewed you.
Interviewed you? Yeah.
Based off those videos.
And your interactions, do you think he's DLI?
Feel like he might be. He might be.
DL He. Might he, might be.
I don't know. Justin.
You know, he might be putting. On like a little facade and he
might gives off the vibe he. Might be DLI feel like I feel
like. You know, he's mad chill with
it, like he say he you know, he might not offend me, but I feel
like he might like dibble and dabble just a little, maybe on
the side. He might not have told him 1.
He look like he'll be he'd be topping a little, you know, like
top bobs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dre, you're
giving some good. Ass fucking answers, man.
Yeah, yeah, he, he's. Like you answer questions for a
living. Man, you know how to do this
shit, Yeah. It's, it's normal.
It's right there all right. Well, today's his birthday.
We got Mr. Julian Barboza. DL or not DL?
What do you think? Just by looks, just by your
right now interaction with him through this phone.
What do you think? Honest man.
Honest. I want to say like.
He could, he could be like ADL gay stripper or something if he
could a gay stripper, OK. He could he could get on like.
He'd be in like Boardwalk Johnson's or something, but OK.
Alright, like ADL. Top he could.
He could give off like a pretty boy DL Top if he wanted to.
Understood. Understood.
Yeah, he would like to do it. Yeah, he give.
Off that like, you know, that vibe, like, you know, if I
could, I would you know, OK. Dude, you ain't nobody he's
talking about, man. Shit.
A little song Song. Show this one all right?
Last DL or not, DL or not Kyle Jacobs.
Yeah, he, he, he. Overly gone.
You think you think he's overly DL Yeah, You know he got the
perked up lips, the muscles going on Yeah, he look like he
probably do lose something on a little, but do you think he's a.
Top or a bottom? If he was, he could be like a
verse. Maybe a verse so it.
Plays both roles. Yeah, you were like.
Damn yo, he knows. His shit, man.
Yeah, he's tapped. He's tapped in bro.
Damn, just just a little. All right.
Well, that was a segment, DL or not, with Mr. Dre over here.
It was, it was amazing that. Was great by the way, that.
Was actually that was actually fucking amazing.
Not do you think we're DL? Oh yeah.
What's your? Yeah, what's?
Your a. Lot of people think we're DL.
For Do you feel like you? DL.
No, I don't. Feel deal I.
Don't feel deal. I don't feel deal either.
I mean, I, I think we, I mean, well, speaking for myself, I
like just based on like if. You saw us walking on the street
like this, interaction aside, like if you just saw us walk in.
I wouldn't. Think I would be like DL?
No, I think I would be like gay. I think I would look like some
college students who party with. White white girls and.
But the snow bunnies, Snow bunnies, yeah, we drink a lot of
liquor and yeah, yeah, yeah, I. Think that's a, that's a great
answer. I mean, we're not DL, but it's
just like, I just think a lot of people have their own like
perception of how we all are, mainly because I guess of what
we do and that's fine. I mean, that's that's completely
fine. And for example.
He ate Julian's. Is that is he?
DL. OK, look, let me.
Ask you this question and it is going to be a part of this.
You do something on camera. Is that gay?
If you say that again. If it if you do, if you do it
on. Camera.
If you do it on camera, is that considered gay or off camera?
Is it considered considered well off camera?
For sure. But well, no, no, I'm asking I.
Don't know his thoughts. This fucking guy.
If you do it on. Camera.
Is it gay? I'm asking Yeah, if you.
Do it on cameras. I mean, well, I'm, I was asking
like. If you do it on camera, is it?
Is it like a? Is it like a?
But on camera? Is that like?
Is that like a like for?
For for only. Yeah, that's what I mean on.
Camera. I mean if you if.
You, I don't, I don't feel like it's gay if you're trying to get
your money, you know? Sure, OK, sure.
Sure, but when it's off camera you think different because like
yo you're doing it off off camera it's your.
Everyday life. OK, OK.
I I just want to know your thoughts, that's all.
I'm just I think. You should clarify.
Have you done that off camera? Dude, no.
There's. One thing God, did you do that
off? Camera No I've.
Never done this shit off camera. Whatever dude.
I've never done this shit on camera.
Trust. But it's fine though it's.
Cool. Because it's not.
It's not for. It's not for everyone.
That's fine, but I don't want to
ask you a different question though this is more so maybe,
maybe this could be a little personal too, but I want to know
life behind social media when the cameras aren't on for you.
No live stream, no Instagram. What is your life like when you
woke up this morning? Like what were you doing?
Like what do you do every day besides the social media?
Life behind. Social media.
I usually take time to think about my life and everything I
did the past, the going forward, the mess ups, the good, the the
ups and downs. So I take time to do that.
And usually when I'm not doing that, I'm trying to look for
more ways to, to reach the people on social media.
And if I'm not doing that, I'm usually partying.
When I woke up today, I was drunk.
I didn't go to sleep. So but I sit down in time to
reflect because even when you're on social media, a lot of people
get lost in the sauce. You feel me?
A lot of people don't take time to reflect and when they get to
the fame, it's like. You got the fame, but do you?
Got time for yourself to reflect on the things you doing with the
money You will always come but you got to take time to reflect
like social media. Social media could be a toll on
you because is this going to be your everyday life?
You got to switch from a person to person.
But me, I'm one person, so I don't have to switch.
But a lot of people don't take time, you feel me?
You're still a person out there today even though you do social
media content, family. So yeah, 100% man, I.
Think and and and just relating to you.
I know you and I are within the same age.
I would just say that you have more life experience than me
because of all the shit you've been through.
Which is I would. Say good for you in a way
because you probably have learned more things than I have
because of the shit you fucking went through to get you to
wanting to learn more about yourself and more within how to
deal with life on its own. What do you think?
And this could be a very like putting you on the spot, but
like, what would you say? Like the biggest turn point of
your life was like, what was like the most memorable point of
your life? My the most.
Memorable point of my life, it's probably, I say when I was with
the girl, I remember like we was in the park, I was trying to
save her from someone and I was trying to save her from the boys
out there because like they want her to do stuff for her while
she was drunk. And I was like, Nah, like would
your friends be fine with it? And we just started tussling,
tussling. I lost my phone and I'll never
forget to say I lost my phone and when I lost my phone, like
my mom was trying to call me. People was trying to call me,
but me I'm just saying that we fighting.
I'm she fighting me. I'm not hitting her 'cause she's
a girl. But we going back and forth,
back and forth, back and forth and I lost my phone.
We went back to the place that you find me are saying that was
going on where I got caught for she got caught for and I
remember I got a call out of nowhere and my mom was like
where you been at? Oh da da da, you feel me?
Oh, this is what you doing. Come, come get this.
But where you been at my my BM? Well, my BM called me first.
She was like, well, your mom been trying to reach you.
Your grandma died. And wait a minute.
I'm sorry, I had to. Interrupt so BM baby Mama Baby
Mama so. You have a kid.
Yes, I have a kid. Yeah, So I yeah.
So my baby Mama called me and she's like, yo, your Mama trying
to reach your grandma died. And that's probably the most
memorable moment because it's like, I would have never thought
my grandma was dying. So you like, life turned from
there. My mind switched and I just
started like doing things I normally want to do if my
grandma was alive till today. You feel me?
She was really like a passion for me, someone who kept me
going every day. So that was like a real turning
point, a real crazy thing to experience.
And that's when I just, you know, I think blanked out and
just started doing things I wouldn't do.
And if, you know, I could change that, I would.
So that's that's the most memorable moment I could ever
think of. I think it's cool how.
Open you are about that because it seems very personal and I
think it's really cool that you're able to speak about it.
You know, I think that's really cool.
That's because not many people are willing to speak about they
keep it to themselves. So I think it's cool that you're
able to really voice and and speak about your personal life
and, and things you've gone through and people who you
appreciate the most, because not many people would outright say
that, you know, yeah, that's true.
But it's so. Your baby Mama called you.
How long have you had a kid for? I had a kid.
For a long time like. You only have one.
I only have one kid. Boy or girl?
It's a boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like he's going to grow up to be a great, you know, a
great man, a great. Wait, so how old is your son?
He's 5 now. He's with his mom.
We have an off and on relationship.
But once I get clear, once we get our understanding, it would
be better. But I know he's going to be,
he's going to grow up to be great and and I know he's going
to be able to make some good choices and go far in life.
There you go, man. I know you're a great father,
man, I already know that shit, but you didn't got to tell me.
I already like to know man, you know what I'm saying?
You easy to get along with, you cool as fuck, you know I mean
shit. I don't think there's anyone
that could ever disagree with that, you know what I'm saying?
Good vibes and good vibes only bro.
That's just what I'm getting at, by the way, you know what I'm
saying. That's all it is.
But I do got a question though, and this is going back to the,
to the whole DL because I'm, I'm, I'm learning these new
terms. By the way, you know, I think I
learn every single day. I think we all as human beings
do learn every day. And obviously, you know, I know
we're getting more of a touchy subject, but just I want to
bring this up because 1 is in my head right now.
I don't want to forget about it. What, what does DL trade mean?
ADL. Trade is a straight man
presenting but they are still not comfortable with coming out
like what did like where. Did trade come from?
Yeah, I've been here. Trade, trade.
From what they told me and my knowledge of trade is I guess it
came from like straight, a straight looking man who who you
want to be able to clock and that is real masculine.
So I think that's what I could say.
That's where trade came from. Like you're a boy.
Are you a DL? Trade you're A like a D.
DL or or you're just like a man looking like no one can really
clock you like that right? Feel me?
So yeah. So so a difference.
From a DL to a DL trade, is there a difference?
I don't really think there's a. Difference.
OK, I think they all stem from the same thing I guess.
Maybe DL? You could kind of tell trade is
what, Like you can't tell at all.
Yeah. Trade, yeah.
Trade, Yeah, trade is you can't tell.
But when it's like DL and trade, it means like, OK, he's trade,
but he might be doing some DL stuff.
So you you wouldn't really know. But in today's world, I guess
that's where it stems from, from the back of the day or
something. So now all the terms is coming
together and so do you wait? In your time talking about DLS
on the Internet, do you know any like DL celebrities?
I don't DO athletes I don't know no D.
O celebrity, you know, DO see the way 'cause he.
Knew he doesn't want to say he's Yeah, that's fine, he's guilty.
No, don't. Hey, but look.
Man, that's I'm, we're just trying to have you out in.
Yeah, yeah, I don't. Have you had anyone in your way?
But if you do though. You could say you do.
You didn't get. You didn't get.
Tell us. No, I don't know.
No. DO No, he's on the.
Contract he signed a contract bro.
You fucking signed it and are we fucking and we, we're just
fucking with you, man. Nah, look, we just look, I just
think it's like so interesting how there's so many DLS that
like even if you let's just say per SE, let's just say an
example, you knew like it's just so great.
Like like that's like they're like DLDLS like D L * 5 Some
some people just got. A reputation to keep and I feel
like if it was someone else, they would go out there and
probably tell but me, I just like to keep people's
reputations because I know at the end of the day if they have
a big mantle, if they have a big platform, if they have whatever,
I don't think it would probably mess up the reputation.
So like I feel like you should, if they fought with you heavy
and they, you know, feel like they could keep you around, you
should just keep that private 100% and I.
Think that that right there is what I think if you going to
claim DLDL trade, it should stay DL or DL trade, you know what I
mean? Anything else out of that it's
just disrespectful. Yes, yes.
I I I understand. For sure, and unfortunately many
people who will be calling them out don't.
So yeah, but so when was? The last time you got with the
DLI. Personally have never been with
the DL because never. Not even for one night.
Well, it's not your type, right? You don't.
Want. Yeah, I don't like a.
Man, I don't. I can't see a man like me with
me. You get what I'm saying?
So you don't like both? No, I mean it's not.
Even about the buffness, it's just about I can't because
buffness you got feminine buff people that you got real hope,
you want them to be feminine. Internally.
Yeah, I want. To be specific because.
It's like feminine meaning, like makeup, feminine meaning acting
like when you say the word feminine, like what does that
really entertain? Because.
Feminine buff. It's like when I when I look at
that, it's like someone that does go about, you know, being
feminine, but then also like having like that obviously what
you said too, that male aspect to them, but having the feminine
look like, you know, like make up.
I'm I'm trying to like understand your type.
So like if you were to describe it, it's like more so of like
the feminine aspect of it, but then having like, yeah, so you
can have the. Feminine aspect.
You could be big, you could be small, you could be athletic,
average, but the aspect of you is feminine, which you what you
present, your personality, the way you move, the way you walk
you you don't have to wear like a pocket wool.
You don't have to be in a dress, you don't have to wear makeup.
But it's what you present and how you move and your aura.
Got it. So yeah, understood.
OK, now I. Got it.
How common do you say DL men are in this world?
It's a lot of. DL men but since they don't have
safe spaces it's like. They don't want to come out.
They rather, they rather go to their grave because they're
scared of the reputation, what might happen, their jobs they
might lose, the people who they might lose and.
Probably like their. Families and so it's like a lot
of DLS out here, but you want to know everybody's scared because
what would happen but in this world it's 2026 no one's really
going to do nothing to you no one's really going to say
nothing to you but if you don't got the heart to come out it's
like. I mean being DL this.
Is in these times and age is really like crazy because it's
like, what are you hiding from? It's 2026, right?
True. What do you think is the most?
DL city in America the most DL city or you said sat inner city
city Florida for real, Yeah. Florida has the.
Most. Well then, what did?
What? What specific city do you think?
Miami. Yeah.
Miami, Really. Damn, Broward County is.
Like it's there, it's like more half and.
Half but. Miami is Fort Lauderdale, too.
No Fort Lauderdale. Is a mixture, you have gay
people and you might have DL people but the DL people are not
that scared as oh OK. Small, but Miami is.
More like you, feel me, damn you.
Got real *** That dibble and dabble?
Hell yeah. I do want to ask this question
too, where it's like, well, I mean from the amount of time
that you were in jail for, have you experienced a lot of like,
maybe not personally, but if so, please tell us a story.
But any DL moments or anyone that you know there that's
considered quote UN quote, DL or openly gay, like anyone in jail
specifically? Like is it a true thing that
majority of guys in jail are? Yell are gay.
I mean if they. Was or if they they was or were,
I wouldn't really know because it's like hard to tell because
it's *** that look like me, right?
OK. And it's kind of hard to.
Tell you from me, it's kind of Have you ever dropped the?
Soap I never. Got to that point, and if I did
ever got to that point, I'll fight back.
Have you ever seen anyone? Drop the soap.
No, OK. OK, so do you think the?
Dropping the soap is a myth. Dropping the soap is a.
Myth, but in jail you. Shower with everyone?
No, you shower by yourself. Oh, OK.
It's prison where you shower with prison.
You. You.
But I feel like in prison it might be a myth.
I I mean you feel me, but as a dude, you should still fight
back. Don't let no.
So I've been scared of picking up the.
SOAP all this time, man, for no reason.
Yeah, I mean, don't be. Don't be afraid.
I mean, you should fight back. You shouldn't just let someone
just. I mean, I'm going to share it
by. Myself, I don't want you to get
out, I mean. If I let it there you in the
shower by yourself, That's that's crazy.
Don't let nobody take. You.
I don't know but. I'm just saying I I just like
shit bro. Like I gotta.
You're trying to like. Prepare your mind to get ready
for it or something. No, no, no, no, no.
No, no, I mean, I'm just, I think that's the type.
Of mind framework, I'd rather be prepared than.
Not I'm just saying like bro so like when you drop this.
Soap you pick it up fast or slow.
I don't pick it up at. All I just don't wash it no
more. Oh, you get a new.
Soap, yeah, buy new ones, but I don't pick.
That up bro, I have like a whole pile of soap so you just be.
Scared like I'm not picking that up but like.
For example, I was in but no awesome.
Real shit though. Like everything aside, you don't
know how to fight. Back.
It's like it's fucking real. When we went to We Ho you got.
Kissed, and you leaned in. Oh, you leaned in.
Then I get kissed you. Can it's a debate.
It wasn't on my lips. It was on my chin.
But but in all serious, like for real, all seriousness, OK, maybe
I was a little tipsy, I was a little drunk, but this I was
interviewing this guy. We, we, we go into in
California, what's called the Wee Ho, which is the gay clubs,
and we do interviews at Wee Ho, the gay clubs.
Yes, I was a little drunk. Whatever, he's having a good
time. OK, I'm doing interviews and
shit. I asked this one guy, I mean,
how old is just 50s? Maybe he was in his 50s or
something, 40s or 50s, right? I asked him, hey, like, you
know, whatever, interviewing him, he goes, he answers all my
questions. He goes, can I ask you a
question? I go, sure.
What is it? I get closer because he's trying
to get to my ear but I noticed that he wasn't trying to whisper
in my ear like asking me a question.
He was grabbing me on my neck and he went in for try to go in
for a kiss, but he kissed my chin because I looked up when
you weren't like this. Bro if look.
OK, bro, if we're going to actually bring this shit up,
bro, we got to show Dre, dude, because like I'm, I'm being
honest bro, like you can hear it in the fucking mic, but bro,
we're going to be on some dumb ass shit.
Bro. I'm actually I'm actually being.
I want to find this video. Right, it sounds like some
brains. Wild.
Then I'm gonna find it. Oh no, I think it's on TikTok.
Hold on. Give me a SEC.
So you now I'm going. To show it to you, I want to.
Know your take on it, but I want you to but I'm actually be
serious. Like that's actually how it
went. But like this is the scenario it
I mean, it's just the fucking truth.
But like feel free to watch it over and over again.
I can give you my phone, but it's like, but it's just because
it's the clip, right? Like it's ludicrat when it
happens. I was like.
Fuck I was drunk but look at the first clip bro, you saw he like.
Closed his eyes. I didn't.
Know God damn it bro. So he's so like.
Bro he just did that. Shit.
But bro, I didn't. He said he wanted to tell me a
secret. I was like, what is it?
But bro, I wasn't even looking at it like that, I say.
When I when I was in Lai say one thing about it and this is when
I was with my man, one thing about it, the people out in wee
ho y'all? Y'all do be real like no?
Don't don't. Oh, not y'all, but I mean.
The people. The people.
Out there in wee ho y'all look? Most of you look like look, we
were just doing. Interviews.
And he told me he wanted to ask me could I ask him have a
question? He was doing great.
The guy was doing great. He was answering all my
questions. And I asked him a question.
Oh no, he was trying to ask me a question.
Like, all right, what is it, dude?
He just fucking grabbed me. But yo, they're closing the
eyes. That's bullshit, bro.
Maybe like maybe next. Time you probably like probably
need to like yo don't touch me or some or but I.
Wasn't expect. I was not expecting any of that.
You know what I mean? I mean, no, now moving forward,
moving forward, like like in the future, you didn't know what to
do. Yeah, you might need a bodyguard
next time or so. Yeah, I'm just crazy.
We. Had security, you have 5
securities banding. Well, look, this is the guy that
walked up. Look.
Look, if you watch it one more time, yeah.
See, I was him grabbing him. Look, that was our security.
See? Look, with the hat you probably
got to. Get another security, he ain't
doing too good. I didn't close my eye.
Bro, I looked at. Him.
Look. No, I did.
Not I was hoping you're like looking him directly.
In his eyes, too. He's trying to clip motherfucker
you probably got. To have like a meeting to do.
So y'all get? Better security and I just think
people just. Got to be faster.
And that's. And that's fine.
That's fine. You know what I mean?
But I think the day shit happens, OK, Shit fucking
happens. Whatever.
Yeah, I do. It's life I do it's life.
But that's crazy. Right, right.
What would you say when it comes like to the the DL community?
Like if you were to because I would say that you within the
audience that you garnished and the amount of you know, the
content that you provide claiming to be DL, which
obviously you know, now you're out.
What advice would you give people that are now till this
day still DL? What advice would you give them
to didn't come out if you had any?
I'll say come. Out and don't be scared because.
Life is different today. I mean, no one is really
advocating for the gay people today.
No one's really advocating for anybody.
But whether or not you come out, you still want to get backlash.
When you get exposed, you going to be mad.
So why not just come out by like on your own, you feel me?
Because it's like, now that you get exposed, now you want to
unlock on a lot of people. Now you feel afraid.
Now you feel me. It's like just come out because
if it's not for you, it's not for you.
But if it is, you don't know. And if you got a choice, no
one's going like there's girls out there who still like man,
that's bisexual, still like dudes when they come out, who
still like gay dudes out there. So it's not, it's not really
like a bad thing today, maybe way back, but we're not
overturning time. So why you got to be DL, you
feel me? Just be yourself, just be you.
That's all you got to do. I think that's what life.
Really is about is being yourself because that's where
you want to go about living a really happy life.
You know, I think it's really, really important that a lot of
people do realize what you just said, you know, because I don't
think a lot of people understand that because it seems like they
want to live a secret, whether it's for the thrill.
But I feel like you would say majority of those guys who live
for the thrill, although they're doing it for it itself.
But I think would you say most of those and obviously not
speaking for them, but would you say majority of those guys who
do live for the thrill and want to be a secret, do you think
they live happy lives? I don't think they live happy.
Lives because it's like you you can't be with that guy who you
really like after you do it in them.
Yeah, you can't fully go out to I mean, they not every DL person
want to go to a a a gay place. They you know, you can't you
can't go out with certain people with that you do it with because
it's like people going to look at you different people going to
look at you like what like you would have Oh, so that you feel
me. So it's like I don't think
they're living a happy life. Some of them are because some of
them are like OK, I can still be DL and I can still have my
girlfriend or I can still be DL and still be 1 myself and still
have my family and not you feel me?
So it's like one, you know, iffy about it 100%.
You feel me? That's all I'm.
Curious, I don't think we ever asked.
What was your first ever like guy experience or when was it my
first ever? Guy and like how to go down.
Well, I'm actually. Curious.
When I was coming out or when? I was DL like.
DL Whenever. Like first.
My first person with XY chromosome.
Ever. My first.
Person was when I DL and then I got another one when I came out,
but the first person I tried it with when I was DL it was.
Why him? Hey, why'd you start it with
him? Why'd you start with?
I just wanted to try I mean. He was a fat dude, OK?
He said. I'd come over like, but when I
came out, which it was like 2024 going to 2025, the dude I did it
with like it was amazing. Like his was amazing.
What year was it that you tried? It with the first guy again that
was in. Around COVID which is like
20/21/2020 so OK. So so you got it with this guy
That was what then what you said play him Chubb thick, you know,
thick guy wasn't into it. When was your second run after
that guy? When was your run after that?
Because I'm trying to, I'm, I'm trying to really piece to piece
here because OK, so like 20, OK, Ron, COVID, you did it with this
guy. You didn't feel it wasn't for
you, but you tried it. The guy after that when was.
That one the the second. One like he was good, it was
just I was nervous. But the third time it was good.
But so do you think is it? Possible then to be straight for
like, what is it then? You were like 20.
Is it possible to be straight for like 20 years and then
realize that you're into guys? Yeah, you could be.
Straight for 20 years because it's like you'll get nervous
like you want to do with a guy, but you get nervous like you get
like you start. Maybe I don't, I don't know.
You just get nervous like if someone's like you feel me, but
throughout them years you Start learning about yourself and then
when do you like really start? Like, because I didn't start
liking guys since 2024. Really I didn't.
End to going to 20. 25 and I realized like, OK I'm not
nervous this shit feel good but throughout them years is like
you're nervous so let me just fuck with a girl until like you
feel like you want to. You feel me.
And it's like throughout the years I became comfortable.
Yeah, but you. Can still be straight.
Some *** still be straight, still be doing it.
Oh yeah. Because they just don't feel
right, just feel weird. But do you think?
You were Born This Way. No, you don't.
Know you were born. I don't think I was born this.
Way. But I think we don't know what
we're really destined for until we really get into that that
that element. Do you think within your life
moving forward as you do get older, do you think you can see
yourself marrying a guy I. Could see myself.
Think about your type. Think about.
Someone that you really want to be with, Can you could you
consider yourself marrying them? The person.
Who I really want to be with that.
Yeah. I can see myself marrying him,
going back to him or being with him.
I mean, he was probably the greatest one I ever had.
Nothing really happened. We just had a misunderstanding.
But to this day, yeah, I told him.
I said like, when I got out of jail, I said, or when I was in
jail, I said I could see myself marrying you, you know, you
cool? He was like, he's really one of
those people that's really impacting the people lives and
this world. So he really has a good heart
and like he, you know, I could see myself marrying him for a
good personality. And he'll probably be like.
But you guys are still on communication?
Yeah, yeah. Damn man.
Let's lid off and on, but. You think he still feels?
The same way as you, of course. The love.
Will never run dry. Damn man.
Hell yeah. And and.
I don't know why I was I don't know why I was thinking when I
first, when I first got with him throughout the day, throughout
that time and it's all over on social media, I got my I got his
name tatted on my face for real do.
You still have. It.
Huh. Do you still have it?
This is on this side or this side?
One of those bro you got his name tatted on.
Your face so so when it comes to that, I will say the word
commitment. Commitment is something that
you. Show that's a whole different
type of commitment yeah when I. 1st when I first did it, like I
really loved him. I think everybody's like you
doing this for clout, you doing this because he has a big
platform, you doing this because you feel me just just to get
something from me and I and it wasn't that I really like the
guy, you feel me. He did a lot of stuff for me and
like just in ways it wasn't like money, it wasn't it was just his
personality and everything. So it was like when I got it, I
meant it. So who do you think is more?
Romantic gay people or straight people?
Gay people. How come?
More emotion. More, more understanding, more
of connections when it comes to straight people, I don't really
like straight people really, really understand what true
emotion you feel me. What true understanding of being
with each other. Gay people, they give that it is
the only time a gay person don't give that is when they just want
to be free. But when you.
Yeah, you get together with a boy on a boy, you really
understand the emotions that both of y'all give, the emotions
that y'all have. And if y'all, let's say if y'all
really into each other and y'all breaking with each other, those
emotions are still going to be there.
Hell yeah. You don't want to see you and
another person fucking with each other because y'all still with
each other. So boys are more emotional, more
affectionate and more understanding, more loving.
And I feel like when a love. Where the love come from?
An addiction part, when I said love is addictive, it's more
real deep, real addictive. And when when it come to boys,
you feel me? Oh yeah, so.
Yeah, it's. More on the gay side.
Yeah, man. Do you think there is something
else that you personally are still hiding from or do you
think that you've been fairly open from everything that you've
been, I guess like associating yourself with who you're
associating yourself with and also to like what you yourself
personally have become as a as a as a man.
Yeah, I don't think I'm. Hiding nothing.
Everything has been open for me. I'm this is not a facade.
This is not no gay baiting. This is not me just being with
gay people because what they have to offer when they throw
yourself at me or what they have to give.
I didn't think I was going to come to the gay side, nor that I
think I would be a social media influencer to the gay people or
to just anybody. But it was just something that
really just it'd be. It'd be.
It became my. It became me.
Hell yeah. You feel me?
It's just me. This is real.
Like real me. No different personality, no
different nobody. It's just me.
So you feel me. I I feel like I was destined to
be what I am now. No.
Hell yeah, man. No, I think I think it's very
touching because it's like a lot of people can definitely relate
to you, man. People that are watching this
right now, they can definitely relate to you and they don't
even know how to go about it. I think every answer you've
given so far, man, can give a lot of people a lot of like
their awakening, you know what I mean?
Like, like you could definitely start a whole lot of people's
like opening out, coming out of the DL.
Movement coming out of the DL. Movement and then you going
about really inspiring a lot of people to feel comfortable to
come out. I mean, let alone like you have
a family of your own, man. And there are people out there
that have families that aren't till this day comfortable with
coming out, you know, and you are here telling your side of
the story and, and, and your upbringing and there's a lot of
people that can relate to you, man.
So that's cool that you're still willing to come here on this
podcast and Share your story, man.
Of course, of course. Yeah, it's amazing.
It's amazing to share this story to get it out to the people for
the to the the people to understand that you don't got to
hide. You can come out and and just be
yourself. You know exactly for.
Me. And that's that's that's really
what I'm getting a message and preaching to the people out
there, you know, and again, man, from your.
Pages, they can definitely relate to you, man, you know you
know this year yourself too, man yeah, yeah, they could they.
They they be really like relating people be texting me
people saying I love your videos, you don't help me or
some I remember a guy said I could be myself now I don't have
to hide and this and that and it was just amazing.
One guy said I'm he's happy, you know, right.
I'm bisexual now and this and that.
So it was really a good. It's really good to see a lot of
people and help a lot of people and for people to understand
that it is OK to be yourself and you don't got to hide, you know,
just be yourself. That's it, You know, just be
yourself, that's all. Just be you and that's it.
So what do you think? Is next for you.
I think you know. Going forward, more videos,
probably, Hopefully more podcasts and probably dropping
the clothing brand soon. Hopefully I could do that
because we're working on that right now.
You feel me? Just of course, one of the brand
names is just Be you or be yourself.
The other one I I got published on the game magazine for making
a joke. I was like Stay Deuce and
dangerous. So we're coming out with, are
you douche right now? Yeah, he's at a bottom.
Hey, by the way, I don't know if, you know, he's a virgin.
He's 20 years old. He's a virgin.
That's amazing. Yeah.
He never had no experience. So all this right here that
that, you know what I'm saying? Hypothetical.
He don't even know what he likes yet.
Wow. Yeah.
But so it's just something that he's really trying to read and
all experience and shit. Yeah.
That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying.
To work on it. Yeah, you know, he's he's he's.
Not in play, it's. Not wrong with that.
There's some action I'm. Waiting till I'm 2121.
Because then I'm gonna. I'm gonna be able to drink
things, gonna be able to drink. And then enjoy it.
But for real. He for like she is a virgin
though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.
So it's kind of like, you know, playing the both parts, you
know, I mean, I think like, you know, me, Julian, if if he were
to be here, you know, we go about playing that role of, you
know, really having that wild side and he's over here being a
virgin and shit. So it kind of, you know, like it
does like it balances out. Yeah, you.
Know what I'm saying? It does the part.
But I actually can't wait for you to tell the story of the
first time you do have. I can't wait for you to share
that. That's going to be amazing.
Yeah, you want to hear the story?
This looking guy. Yeah.
Oh yeah, the podcast. The first time you do it,
actually. I'll let you know.
I'll make. Sure to I'll make sure to take a
video. Nah, I not true.
Hey. But real quick.
Though Dre, what would you say was the craziest DM you've ever
received on Instagram? You have like a crazy memory of
Adm from anyone. Maybe it's already you're like a
athlete or like a the craziest DMI got.
Musician or like? Anyone like the craziest DMI
got? Someone said.
Oh shit, someone said. You can't even say.
It someone said would you? Would you disgrade me and laugh
at me for 10 to 15 and I and make me go broke and I'll give
you my money? Damn, wait.
No. You don't.
Would you ever start one? If if if I was like, not
committed to someone, I probably would.
OK, so it's the relationship. That's holding you back well.
I still love the person and they still 100%.
So it's like, I don't think I can really do that.
So, so so what's? Stopping you from doing or
making a page is by you having this relationship with someone
or at least like a this bond and.
Bond, Bond, bond. Yeah, pretty much pretty.
Much OK. Got it.
You don't think that person that you have a bond with with except
you wanted to make one? They're not into the.
Content got it got it got it got.
It OK, cool interesting I just thought I'd ask I mean it's
yeah, that's interesting so so you guys so you obviously enjoy
just more so than the aspect of just doing things behind the
camera versus on camera like like I mean, yes, you're a
social media influencer you go about posting on IG on TikTok,
but like you don't really care about going about posting your
personal like endeavours, but on a platform like you don't really
care about that interesting self pleasure slip.
I think that's the. The pinnacle of the.
Question would you start an OF? But you said Nah, I mean.
Probably down the line, but I don't know hypothetically.
Let's just say tomorrow you start one.
What are you posting on there? Hypothetical if you if if you
did, what are you posting on there?
I'll probably. Post myself, just you, just.
Me, I'll probably post. Like some teas and I feel like
it would go good just hypothetically but.
You hypothetically, your page starts.
Have you ever thought about making one?
Yeah. OK.
I was down and out. When you were down and out, you
were. Thinking about, yeah, you know,
fuck this shit, man, I'm going to do this.
What I heard you make a. Lot of money, but I mean I'm
just curious, you know, I'm saying I just thought because
I'm over here thinking like damn bro, like I think that should be
lit If you did, you know, but as fuck man probably would.
Probably, probably, you know, pop out, pump off, you know,
hell yeah, man, fuck. Yeah, look man, although you and
I are in the same age, like I said earlier, we can relate.
If there was a younger version of yourself saying in front of
you, and this could be a very on the spot question, but what
would you tell the younger Dre in front of you right now?
What advice would you give him some of that you've experienced
throughout your years? I.
Was told my younger self to love.
Yourself. Do better, make better
decisions, you know, go far as you can, as you could and be
able to live your life to the fullest and not get in trouble
and just just just flourish in life and, you know, have the
best energy and the best you just could be.
That's it, Dre. I love that shit, man.
Hell yeah, fuck yeah, man. Shout out Dre guys.
Huge shout to Dre for the audience watching who are just
getting to know you here for the first time.
Where can they find you? All your socials, everything,
Where can they find you? You can find me on Instagram.
Drain under score 1K you can find me on TikTok Dre under
score 1K you'll see me like probably like gold teeth in a
hat. There you go man, shout out.
Dre, one thing for coming on man.
Thank you once again. Go check them out if you guys
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