1 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,640 Hey everybody, and welcome to the latest episode of The Ball 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,040 Boys. We are the tennis podcast that 3 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:15,480 puts the Vava voom in Vava story. 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,320 I'm your host, Paul Monkholm, bringing you the insights, 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,320 outbursts, giggles and wiggles of the ATP and WTA tours. 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,480 It's late summer, which means the movie theaters are full of 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,440 body horror, and the tours decide to follow suit. 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,320 We had a Cincinnati tournament where the players were stuck 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,000 together. Between the heat and the 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,440 humidity, it felt like they were melting into the courts. 11 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:39,640 And we had blood curdling screams, dangerous plays, fire 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,600 alarms, storms, twists and turns, and worst of all, a 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,920 crying child. We'll unpack the revamped since 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,960 he opened to see what 260 million really buys you in 2025. 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,720 And then before the since he final even finished, the players 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,640 flew up to New York like weapons under a witch's spell with loads 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,560 of top singles players ready to show off their double skills. 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,480 The problem? A lot of them forgot to bring 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,400 their double skills. I was there for day one and 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,160 while there were some positives, quite frankly this did not feel 21 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,800 like a slam in the slightest. But what is a slam is the main 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,800 draws kicking off on Sunday. Because yes, every day on the 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,960 tour counts. And Sunday is now the new Monday 24 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:22,040 for the US Open, which is not to be mistaken for the Cincinnati 25 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,000 final. Where Monday was. 26 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,880 The new Sunday confused us too, but we're going to be previewing 27 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,760 all of the action. And we also have a new Bay TP 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,600 that includes both Cincinnati and Canada results. 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,920 And you can see that over on our Instagram at TBB Tennis. 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,240 Again, that's at TBB Tennis. And breaking down all of this 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,040 with me is my favorite body horror ball boy. 32 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,040 He's the after to my before. He's the ball boy that always 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,800 bounces back. It's Matthew Coleman. 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,440 Hey, Matthew, how are you? What's up, Paul? 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,960 Are you saying that I'm your the substance? 36 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,880 You are the You are the Sioux to my whatever Demi Moore's 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,480 character's name was and. I don't. 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,440 I don't think we're that far apart in age. 39 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,880 But like, I'll roll with it. Why not look after a certain age 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,960 in your late to early mid 30s or 40s, aging starts to hit you 41 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,960 like a on the bricks. But and. 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,200 It is true we all revert to the mean eventually. 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,240 Yeah, but it's great to see you. You are debuting an entirely new 44 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,360 look for us, which I'm excited to show people on our reels. 45 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,280 You've got I, I mean, I don't want to be so base as to say a 46 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,480 Wolverine look going on, but I've never seen you in a beard. 47 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,640 And it is it is doing a lot for me. 48 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,080 So Congrats. I I've decided it's time to let 49 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:44,000 my aging twink look go and embrace my daddy roots. 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,720 Crap, we're going to have to find you an after now. 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,880 So I'm going to be like the before before. 52 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,240 OK, great. The sequel to Substance being 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,880 written right now. It's like the substance meets 54 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,440 the human centipede somehow. It's like there's always someone 55 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,320 before and always someone after. I mean this, this also sounds 56 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,080 very much like what's going on in WHA Tour. 57 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,840 Is it because it's just endless cycling through? 58 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,680 It's like, well, who won? We don't even have time to 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,160 celebrate because we're on to the next tournament. 60 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,480 We're on the next thing. We are now post Cincinnati as of 61 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,400 a few days ago. U.S. 62 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,640 Open is starting, even though we've already crowned the Grand 63 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:21,880 Slam champions for the mixed double S Winston Salem is also 64 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,880 happening right now. I mean, it is just, it is a 65 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,640 foster clock on the tours and time no longer means anything 66 00:03:29,640 --> 00:03:31,200 but catch yourself. How's your summer been? 67 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:32,920 What else you've been doing besides growing this gorgeous 68 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:36,520 beard? You know, I feel like like the 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,400 state of the tour, my summer's been a little bit of a grind. 70 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,320 Oh no, it's been hard. But like, punctuated with some 71 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,240 really fun trips. So that wasn't the grind like 72 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,040 Eric Knees, that was the grind like late stage capitalism. 73 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,400 And how has tennis been for you this summer? 74 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,520 You know, I always am waving the flag that I just think that the 75 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:01,000 tour is too long. Like, I don't like seeing the 76 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,080 players having to put their bodies through this, this 77 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,720 gauntlet when it's already such an extremely physical sport. 78 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,560 And hello, climate change. It ain't getting any cooler 79 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,240 people. I feel like I've heard a lot of 80 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,240 chatter on the tour lately too, of just people banging that drum 81 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,800 again, saying like, guys, we got to figure out something more 82 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,760 sustainable. It's we're going to need a 83 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,960 bigger boat. I mean, this is this is out of 84 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,560 control. I mean, Cincinnati, which we're 85 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,960 going to talk about in a little bit, was literally a horror 86 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,040 show. There were so many perilous 87 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,240 horror movie tropes that came into play, and a lot of it had 88 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,880 to do with the weather. And I thought about going to 89 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,720 Cincinnati this year. I wanted to see the new stadium. 90 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,640 I wanted to smell what $260 million would do for for me and 91 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,360 some concrete. Smell that Navarro money, baby. 92 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,480 I know, I mean, Emma's Emma Navarro's dad is just going to 93 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,720 buy every tournament until she wins a Grand Slam. 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:54,400 I. Mean. 95 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,200 That's what I would do if I was a billionaire, I think. 96 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,080 Daddy, I won a Grand Slam. Now. 97 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:06,200 Veruca Navarro Yes, daddy. Well, I am so pumped to have you 98 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:07,920 back. We're going to jump on in. 99 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,000 But as a reminder, hey, listeners, there is a ball boy 100 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,200 in all of us. And like Terence Atmain and his 101 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,920 Pokemons, I want to catch them all. 102 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:18,920 So if you are a lippy homosexual, if you've got some 103 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,600 hot tennis takes, reach out to me over on Instagram and let me 104 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,320 know. We've got we've got a fresh set 105 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,680 of balls coming up on a show from this plea for ball boys. 106 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,800 So hey, if you want to be a ball boy, let's talk. 107 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,360 Come on the show. I want to hear your take. 108 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,920 So reach out to us over on Instagram. 109 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,600 That's at TBB tennis. Again, that's at TBB tennis. 110 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,800 But OK, let's jump in with both feet. 111 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,360 As always, we're going to start with our lobs beings. 112 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,160 The lobs being is the thing that just made us a little gayer for 113 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,360 tennis since the last show. There's there's a few lobs 114 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,480 beings, but they are all related and they all are under the 115 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,240 umbrella of qualies at the US Open. 116 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,680 I feel like the qualis got a lot more attention this year for a 117 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,000 number of reasons, but also I so when I was at the US open from 118 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:11,160 the mixed double S exhibition Grand Slam, I also had a moment 119 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,360 to go out and watch some qualis and it was like night N gay like 120 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,440 the the action over on the outside courts was really great. 121 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,680 I mean these players who are in the two hundreds, three 122 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,320 hundreds, they are smacking that ball and and so much is on the 123 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,560 line for even just a small paycheck. 124 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:33,320 But then in the qualis, we had Joao Lucas Reyes, Thermopolis de 125 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,640 Silva, who qualified for the qualis, which again is sort of a 126 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:43,040 little mental gymnastics, but he is the openly gay player who is 127 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,240 ranked in the top 250. He's from Brazil. 128 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,040 I maybe don't hype him up enough on this show, partially because 129 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,440 I don't want to have just a gay player. 130 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:52,960 I want to have a great gay player. 131 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,200 I want a gay player in the top 10. 132 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,680 I want a gay player vying for slams. 133 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,040 But you know what, maybe I need to chill out a little bit and I 134 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,720 I need to take what I can get. And just for visibility. 135 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,600 It was amazing. He did lose in the first round 136 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,320 of qualies, but he was there. And, you know, that's pretty 137 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,880 freaking awesome. Matthew Coleman, what's your 138 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,000 take on Joao? I love it. 139 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:22,080 I mean, it's a little bit of a reality check that you have to 140 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,800 go so low in the rankings. You know, not to say that 250 is 141 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,680 is so low, but it's like a lot of averages here. 142 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,480 Like you're like, there really is not a a player, you know, in 143 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,480 the 250 above him that feels comfortable enough with their 144 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,680 sexuality to come out. Because I guarantee you that 145 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,480 there are multiple gay players in the mix. 146 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,320 But that's why, yeah, I mean, the visibility is incredibly 147 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,040 important, especially in this moment, which is like we're in 148 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,920 that conservative shift to have a player who's like, Nope, I'm 149 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,480 fully authentically myself. I love, love to see it. 150 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,000 But yeah, now let's like, let's, let's train. 151 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,960 Let's let's make the make the main draw baby. 152 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,720 Come on, work on that forehand, Sir. 153 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,840 Yeah. Yeah, well, and you're down in 154 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,040 Florida where they're painting over all of the rainbow Pride 155 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,200 sidewalks. Not even not even just rainbow 156 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,000 Pride sidewalks, but the the Pulse Nightclub shooting 157 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,920 memorial. Sidewalk, I know. 158 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,960 Me I'm. Just I'm just going to jaywalk. 159 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,960 Anytime I go to Florida, I'm just going to look. 160 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,040 I don't, I don't acknowledge your sidewalks anymore. 161 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,760 I don't acknowledge jaywalks. Swish those hips so hard that 162 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,520 you that you knock over an old lady. 163 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,000 And I'll do it diagonally because I am not going to do 164 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,559 anything straight when I go down to Florida. 165 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,960 But yeah I love Joao but also just in terms of a Lobbs being 166 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,159 and something that made me gayer. 167 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,640 I didn't actually get to see him because on his court before him 168 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,960 was IO Ito. I love her. 169 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,680 Just makes me gayer than I've ever been in my life. 170 00:08:56,680 --> 00:08:58,960 Watching her play. People are losing their shit 171 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,360 over her. A lot of people are seeing her 172 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:06,280 for the first time. She plays so nonchalantly and so 173 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,240 tricky, especially with her weird slice forehand. 174 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:13,600 Her game is wild and she was driving everyone insane. 175 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,840 Or her opponents. Her opponents hate. 176 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,560 They don't want to see her on their draw. 177 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,160 She did lose in the final round of qualifying though, so she's 178 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,240 not going to be. I know. 179 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,760 People say that that Ito is sort of the singles spiritual 180 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,920 successor to Sue Wei Shay. And like, I love me some Sue Wei 181 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,200 Shay. Yeah, I've I've missed her on 182 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,320 the singles court for the past few years whenever a player 183 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,160 comes up with a totally different game style. 184 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,560 And like, I think her game is more interesting than a than a, 185 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,240 you know, Tatana Maria, there's more variety to her game. 186 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,000 And they're and they're she kind of like very daintily, like hops 187 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,960 around court. It's kind of what she literally 188 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,040 will just walk to the ball between points. 189 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,400 Like she is so Zen and unbothered out there and she'll 190 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,520 she'll smile when she loses a point. 191 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,840 It's like there's just a very her her mentality is so 192 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,760 different than anything else you see with any of the other 193 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:06,800 players. And I love it. 194 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,240 I absolutely agree. She's obviously an amazing 195 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,680 athlete, but she does not carry herself or, like, act like an 196 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:14,640 athlete. She doesn't act like a. 197 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:16,400 She acts like she's walking to the library. 198 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,960 She's got this. Yeah, Zen is a great word. 199 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,800 Very casual. She also reminds me a little bit 200 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:27,480 of your boy, Mattia Bellucci. Just like, kind of beguiling and 201 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,440 like, that's a queering of the sport, which is also why it 202 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,240 feels like my love is being like, I am so gay for Ito's 203 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,640 game. Yeah, Yeah, yeah. 204 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,680 It's it's, it's taken a little bit of that like toxic red 205 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:43,000 bloodedness out and being like you can be, you can be a dancer 206 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,080 out there. You can be, you can, you can be 207 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,240 twirling your ribbon and have your magic wand and sprinkling 208 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,360 fairy dust and you know what? It works and and it wins. 209 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,760 Yeah, and I do love that we saw such sort of variety and 210 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,080 versatility in the qualies. It just sort of opened up an 211 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,280 entirely new world, which is why it's my lobs being it just like 212 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,280 it made me more excited. I think going forward I'm going 213 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,320 to try and go to qualies for the majors. 214 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,440 Coach BTV, he goes to every qualies and and now I get it. 215 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,480 Coach B was on to something. So yeah, amazing. 216 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,800 OK, well shall we get into some of the action with Twit? 217 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,120 Let's do it. So Twit is this week in tennis. 218 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,080 We're just covering the news, the dudes, the feuds of the 219 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,320 tour. Today we are straddling Ohio and 220 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,440 New York, basically taking Pennsylvania from both ends. 221 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,200 Just as a reminder, we can't possibly cover every match. 222 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,160 So if you're coming to us for the scores, you're going to be 223 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,120 more disappointed than the TV sponsors for the men's final of 224 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,200 Cincinnati, which as you probably know, ended after 225 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,000 Yannick Sinner retired 5 Love. But we've got a lot to get 226 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,920 through. And because Cincinnati is well 227 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:03,840 into the rearview mirror it it ended an an ungodly 5 days ago. 228 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,600 We're not going to spend too much time because we want to 229 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:06,920 look forward. We're not looking back. 230 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,440 We're looking forward on this show. 231 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,760 But we're going to have a brief review of Cincinnati. 232 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,760 It's known as Queen City, which I didn't know until this year. 233 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,720 And I felt like I should have felt more at home with 234 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,400 Cincinnati because of that, but I didn't because just like the 235 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,560 South Park movie, this year's tournament was bigger, longer, 236 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,760 and I'm pretty sure uncut. And in what what might be news 237 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,520 to some of us that there is such a thing as too big. 238 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,280 Everyone has talked about the scheduling woes. 239 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,000 We had those finals on a Monday after Canada had finals on their 240 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,640 Thursday. It literally is just insanity. 241 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,800 Sorry, I had to say insanity. I just thought of it and I just 242 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,000 had to, you know, thank you for that. 243 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,720 But also though, since the last show, there was that spate of of 244 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,680 kind of not random but an eclectic mix of celebrities 245 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:58,400 passed away unfortunately. And one of them is Lonnie 246 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,920 Anderson. For anyone who doesn't know her, 247 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:05,000 she was one of the OG blonde bombshells in the late 70s and 248 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,720 80s. Honestly, she walked so Pam 249 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,720 Anderson could vamp. She starred in a hit show called 250 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,280 WKRP in Cincinnati. And so I thought as an homage to 251 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:19,080 Lonnie Anderson, who is also clearly a gay icon, as a tribute 252 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,560 to her, and because we're already knee deep in the US 253 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:25,600 Open, we're going to do a quick recap of Cincinnati with what 254 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,440 we're calling WKRP we. And so we're going to do 255 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,280 something that starts with a WAK, an R and AP. 256 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:37,280 So W stands for where? Where does Cincinnati rank in 257 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,520 the other Masters? Look, as a gay man, I'm always 258 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,440 ranking things. And so we've been ranking all of 259 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,920 the Masters this year just for the ATP, and right now the 260 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:51,720 standings are Monte Carlo, Rome, Indian Wells, Canada, Madrid and 261 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,840 Miami. So, Matthew Coleman, where would 262 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,920 you place Cincinnati amongst its Masters, brethren? 263 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,720 God, I always struggle with these rankings so much because 264 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:11,120 there is the history and, like, the prestige that it brings in, 265 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,120 and then there is the experience we just had. 266 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,280 Right. Yeah, historically people have 267 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,880 said Cincinnati is actually one of the best Masters. 268 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,800 Like it's it's a great experience, It's relatively 269 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,760 affordable. The tournament organizers are 270 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,880 are friendly. Like there's a lot of good 271 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,640 vibes, but the vibes were rotten this year at the tournament 272 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,040 itself. I feel like so and, and when I 273 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,760 look at the list of the other masters, it's sort of like, OK, 274 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,360 well, would I rather be in like Monte Carlo or Mason? 275 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,200 OH, which is it puts it in a little perspective. 276 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,200 OK, I'm going to say, oh, this is, this is tough. 277 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,880 You're going to disagree with me here, but I'm going to never, 278 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,600 I'm going to put it smack in the middle. 279 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,120 I was thinking about putting it below Canada, but I think it's 280 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,600 got to be above Canada because Canada splits the tour into two 281 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,960 cities and it's like that's kind of a knock. 282 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,360 I want to see. I want to see my ladies and my 283 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,160 men. I contain multitudes, so I would 284 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,960 say Monte Carlo, Rome, Indian Wells, Cincinnati, Canada, 285 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,520 Madrid, Miami, but I wouldn't be surprised if you put it in last 286 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,640 place, which which is fair after the tournament we just had. 287 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,840 Wow, I, I, I, I don't know how to take that. 288 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,200 I, I guess I'll take it as a compliment because I'm 289 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,440 discerning and, and you, you appreciate that about me, but I 290 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,760 put it in the exact same place. Oh, wow. 291 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,480 OK, smack in the middle. First and foremost, because of 292 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:40,000 the insane schedule, it is always and forever going to be 293 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,160 directly tied to Canada. You have to go from one to the 294 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,120 next immediately if you're going to play. 295 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,120 So it's very much like that movie together. 296 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,480 Have you seen that movie yet, by the way? 297 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,960 No. One has seen it. 298 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,520 It's disgusting. I saw it. 299 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,640 I fucking loved it. Allison Brie, Dave Franco, who 300 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,440 are real life married, which is kind of like an interesting kind 301 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,680 of hot couple together. I mean, we've seen in the 302 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,360 previews, I'm not going to do any spoilers, but basically 303 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,400 their bodies start melding. Canada and Cincinnati have 304 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,280 melded. They are one sort of super 305 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:13,080 masters 24 day gauntlet. And so I feel like they always 306 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,920 have to be together. I wanted to actually even rank 307 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,520 it higher because of the renovations and some of it 308 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,280 looked good. But the thing I dislike the most 309 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,800 about this renovation was the blue on blue courts. 310 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,280 So it was a light blue outline with a darker blue in sort of 311 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,400 like main court. Just aesthetically, it felt very 312 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Midwestern. I felt like I was at like, like 313 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,600 an aquarium that was built in Ohio. 314 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:40,840 It's like this feels a little odd. 315 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,360 Why is it ocean vibes? Like, I don't know, it just I 316 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,400 feel like it could have been a little more dynamically 317 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,800 designed. But then this year, yeah. 318 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,000 To your point, I mean, it is one of the most prestigious long 319 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,200 term. I think it's been around since 320 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,120 the 1800s maybe, or maybe making it up. 321 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,440 But it's it's been around for a long ass time before I was born 322 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,160 in the 1800s, but this year was a disaster. 323 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,160 And we're going to get to that in a second. 324 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,480 But now we're going to move on to K, which is kudos. 325 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,440 So WKRPK is kudos. And the story the the the bright 326 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,000 shining star that came out of this one, the guy who got the 327 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:24,319 most attention was Terence Atman at Main, the Frenchman who made 328 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:27,800 it all the way to the semis. He beat Kaboli, he beat Fonseca, 329 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,640 he beat Fritz Runa. I mean, I kind of love him. 330 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,120 Definitely some Bay TP material. He, you know, spoiler alert, he 331 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:38,240 did make the Bay TP for this round. 332 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,640 I don't know how long he's going to be up in the standings, but 333 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,520 there's something about a Frenchman with a really big IQ 334 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,200 that does it for me. And he was really smart with how 335 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,520 he wore the Cincinnati Reds T-shirt after a win one day and 336 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,240 and he's like, I'm excited to learn baseball. 337 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,480 I was like, how can you be that smart but not no baseball? 338 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,240 I don't know. His story was one of the few 339 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,600 highlights of the tournament. Yeah, I feel like he went on an 340 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,440 accidental charm offensive, like at the same time as when he was 341 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,640 just absolutely like surging through the tournament. 342 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,120 But it reminded me of like Ava Lease at the Australian Open. 343 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,840 The guy's got personality, you know he's a. 344 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,840 Character. He's like, so French. 345 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,720 Yeah. And it's he's got like a little 346 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,080 bit of that, of that like kind of toxic aggression that like I 347 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:30,240 like about someone like Amoute also French or like a a Benoit 348 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,880 pair, also French, also French, but like, but like a sweetie, 349 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,040 you know, he gave Sinner that Pokémon card on his birthday, 350 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,640 which like what a what a cute weird thing to do in the tunnel, 351 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,960 like right before the start of the match. 352 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,560 So. Yeah, he's in. 353 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,520 He's endearing. I think he captured a lot of 354 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,840 hearts and his and his tennis is fucking lights out. 355 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,440 It's insane. Yeah, I'm a I'm a fan. 356 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,520 I did see this other thing, though that kind of gave me an 357 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,400 ick. So he has a history of, he has a 358 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,520 history of violence, not violence, but he has a history 359 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,320 of breaking rackets. He breaks a lot of rackets on 360 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,360 court. He gets very mad. 361 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:05,720 He's very passionate, very French. 362 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:11,880 But he also says that he does that because he is so smart. 363 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,400 He has more thoughts in his head than the average person. 364 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:22,400 Which is like pretentious as fuck and also just like total, 365 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,280 total BS. It's like new version of the 366 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,680 Twinkie defense, you know, like oh sorry officers like like I 367 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,760 ate too many Twinkies today. It made me crazy. 368 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,360 I'm too smart. I can't do I, I mean, I kind of, 369 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:36,480 I mean part of me loves it. I'm like, wow. 370 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,920 Diva. Yes, yeah, yeah. 371 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:39,480 Diva. Yeah. 372 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,280 Hey, Diva. I have to go. 373 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,520 I'm. I'm visiting my mother up in 374 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,280 Massachusetts. Maybe I'll be late and be like, 375 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,560 sorry, I just had too many thoughts. 376 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,400 I'm just too smart. I mean, I don't know if anyone 377 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,800 would believe that from my angle, but maybe you could pull 378 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,720 it off, Matthew. I don't. 379 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,400 Think so this you're like Nah, this empty noggin like. 380 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:00,520 All vibes over there all bearded vibes you know your teeth look 381 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,400 great with a beard too by the way, not to go too and as you 382 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,560 close your. No, but I'm actually like, I 383 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,560 have this. I have a very yellow light from 384 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,280 my computer on me and I feel like it makes everything look 385 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,960 yellow but like that. Maybe that's the compliment I 386 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,400 needed to hear right now. No, fuck that. 387 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,360 You know, also, I'm tired of not to go on too much of A, of a 388 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:22,840 tangent, but you know, back in the day, you look at the teeth 389 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,400 from the 80s, you look at Melanie Griffith in the 80s, you 390 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,320 look at, you know, Tom Cruise, like people used to have crooked 391 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,760 yellow teeth. So we got a it's. 392 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,960 Kind of hot, honestly. Like bad teeth can be, can be 393 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,640 hot. Like now it it depends on the 394 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,800 ways in which they're bad and to to what degree they're bad. 395 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,280 Here's the spectrum. If I'm real like nothing, 396 00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:47,720 nothing is hotter to me than just a proper Snackle tooth. 397 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,360 Yeah, you know, I mean like, yes, a mouthful of Chiclets. 398 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:51,120 Great. I'm not. 399 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,040 I'm, I love that. You know, I'm just going to say 400 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,680 I love all teeth. He's a teeth man. 401 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,840 Yeah, I'm a I'm a I'm teething over here. 402 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:06,480 OK, the next one for WKRP is the results so quickly the winners. 403 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,920 I mean, hey, if you saw the final for the men's, 404 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,200 congratulations. If you didn't, you didn't miss a 405 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,040 goddamn thing. We did get the final we wanted 406 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,400 the final. We expected we were going to get 407 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,640 another Sinner and Alcaraz showdown. 408 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,440 But then it turned out to be the final that nobody wanted to see 409 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,920 because Carlos wins after Jana cast to retire 5 love down in 410 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,240 the first set because he's sick. I heard a rumor in this minor 411 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,320 true, but so it was his birthday, as you mentioned. 412 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,280 And on air, he was given a cake like a strawberry cake. 413 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,600 Maybe it was an homage either to his redness or to his Wimbledon 414 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,800 victory. And he ate the strawberry off 415 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,000 the top of the cake and he made such a face because I, I, I'm 416 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,680 pretty sure what we do to both cakes and strawberries in this 417 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,840 country is not what they do in Italy or Europe or anywhere 418 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,760 where they don't have GM OS. It was, it did not go down well. 419 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,000 And then he had like a tummy ache. 420 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,200 Wow, you're really, you're really reading the Midwest at 421 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,280 this point. No, I love them. 422 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:09,760 I've been Oh. Those Mason, OH, strawberries, 423 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,920 oh, they're garbage. Well he made a face. 424 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,880 I'm just I'm trying to figure out why he was so sick that he 425 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,760 couldn't play and he lost 5 love. 426 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,240 And did you hear any rumors? Am I? 427 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,120 Give me a better excuse? I think I saw that he. 428 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:26,400 In the Midwest. That he got a virus, which is 429 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,400 like actually a little concerning because I mean, a 430 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,960 virus is going to take a little while to fully clear up. 431 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:36,160 What I always think about is so Carlos Alcaraz is such a 432 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,200 friendly guy, a nice guy. When Yannick retired, Carlos is 433 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,040 like hugging him, you know, maybe like touching him if he's 434 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,600 got a virus. I I know. 435 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,080 No bro, go the other way. Like like he, he has, he has no 436 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,920 self protection instincts. You know, he's like, he's like, 437 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,200 he's like colder. Retriever. 438 00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:58,320 A panda at the zoo. He's just like, like, just wants 439 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,240 to like, go explore everything. Yeah, and then he's going to do 440 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,200 a somersault away. Yeah. 441 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,360 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's very cute, but it's 442 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:07,200 like, it's like, dude, protect, protect yourself. 443 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,000 Like, come on, you got like a huge tournament on the line 444 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:10,560 here. Yeah. 445 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,680 By huge tournament you mean in the mixed double s? 446 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,680 Obviously, he's his day with Emma. 447 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,600 Yeah, I know we're going to have a second, but the real quick, 448 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,800 the women on the women's side, Ego won. 449 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,680 She won without dropping a set. She beats Jasmine Paolini in the 450 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,840 final. After a year of kind of not 451 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,240 being locked in, she's decided, oh, I'm just going to win 452 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,680 everything. Spoiler alert, she is my pick to 453 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,600 win the open. Ego. 454 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,800 Shvantec. I've loved seeing her kind of 455 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,880 lock back in. I mean, she was never that bad 456 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,960 in the last couple years, but just didn't always have that 457 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,800 consistency and didn't always make it to the finals. 458 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,720 And I feel like she's she's back baby and she's looking good. 459 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,440 And I loved seeing Jasmine go deep. 460 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,960 You know, it feels like she's had a little trouble maintaining 461 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,240 that momentum from last year and like she deserved it. 462 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,960 I would have loved to see Krichikova actually have a deep 463 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,920 run at the tournament and it would have been at Jazz you. 464 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,960 You want to see Krichikova win every tournament. 465 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,240 I know I do. I do. 466 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,320 Listen, you know I'm going to come on here and hype up my 467 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,360 faves. Yeah, every time. 468 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,640 Love Krichikova. And she's got a rough draw in 469 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,080 the open, which we. Talked about in Boko the. 470 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:25,640 First round match rough with the last letter for our tribute to 471 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,920 Lonnie Anderson is P. So WKRP. 472 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,800 The P is for Perilous because yes, the new facility was nice 473 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,000 and pretty over there, but the P is not for pretty. 474 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,040 It's for perilous because what the fuck was going on in 475 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,080 Cincinnati? It was literally feeling like a 476 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,760 horror show. We had blood curdling screams 477 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,760 from Danielle Collins as she's dealing with a herniated disc. 478 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,200 We had Holger Runa taking a ball to the face in his match. 479 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,800 I mean, normally I'm OK with taking a ball to the face, but 480 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,440 that it looked pretty rough. We had an actual death with an 481 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,040 intern who fell off of a motorized car and sustained a 482 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,440 head injury Monday night at Cincinnati. 483 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,640 We had Rinder Connect passing out. 484 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,160 We had Medvedev looking like he was on death's door. 485 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,760 Zverev got sick and basically had to give up. 486 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,200 And we also had just some real form issues, like the hottest 487 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,880 players on tour are no longer the hottest players on tour. 488 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,080 And I mean that in all the senses of hotness. 489 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,600 Coco and her serve. She is actively retooling that 490 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,240 day and night, hopefully in time for the Open, but it's a mess. 491 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,320 Mousetti has been on the skids. Tommy Paul, I'm not even sure 492 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,040 how much he plays tennis anymore. 493 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,240 He skipped everything until Cincinnati won a match, then 494 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,720 went fishing. And then worst of all, there 495 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,280 were things like fire alarms, crying babies. 496 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,320 I mean, it's just the whole thing was a horror show. 497 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,080 Matthew, what was the most horrifying part of Cincinnati? 498 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,000 Was it the crying baby? Like I like what I even start. 499 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,880 It's all. It's all horrible. 500 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,240 It's like, yeah, the, well, the Danielle Collins blood curdling 501 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,960 scream, I mean the scream heard round the world. 502 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,720 It's like, I don't how do you, how do you get worse with that? 503 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,320 The last thing that Queen Danielle needs is like another 504 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,360 injury to be dogging her and bringing her down. 505 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,840 Honestly I didn't know she was suffering with a hernia. 506 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,520 I have hernia discs up and down. Even where I don't have discs in 507 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,960 my body, it's hernia, and it's horrible. 508 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,600 I had no idea what was going on. But then the scream, the scream 509 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,120 immediately took me back to Monica Sela's. 510 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,760 When she got stabbed, I was just like, oh, my God, she's getting 511 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,120 attacked. If it was like Nancy Kerrigan 512 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:34,480 going, why, after getting clumped in the knee, it was just 513 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,480 like, what just happened and she had to leave the court. 514 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,960 Taylor Townsend, the sweetheart she is, took her bag for her. 515 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:45,120 That was like a really unsettling moment. 516 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,040 Yeah. I'm glad that she got a little 517 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,800 bit of a bounce back with the mixed double S semi finals at 518 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,200 the US Open because I mean, like you, you want to, you want to be 519 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,840 coming into the the tournament like on a on a high note, not 520 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,520 feeling like your body has just absolutely pooped the bed. 521 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,760 Yeah, yeah, no poop in the bed. Yeah, no, I think that that was 522 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,600 the roughest part. But there there wasn't a lot of 523 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,160 great news coming out of Mason, OH, other than Terence Ackmane 524 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,560 and Pokémon. So yeah, better luck next year. 525 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,680 Cincinnati. And also I know that we have 526 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,240 introduced and rolled out these new schedules, longer 527 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,440 tournaments, 12 days instead of a week. 528 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,080 Maybe like, guys, can we just kind of like reverse it? 529 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,440 Can we just pretend we didn't do this? 530 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,080 Well, did you see Djokovic's latest comments? 531 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,160 Well, he's just like, look, I'm I'm only going to play the Grand 532 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,120 Slams like, but what? Yeah. 533 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,600 He well, he says, he says, yeah, it sucks. 534 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,480 And he's like, I wasn't happy about it when they were planning 535 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,160 it and I'm not happy about it now. 536 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,040 But he's like, nobody spoke up. He said the players, the players 537 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,520 did not intervene and, and raise their hands and, and make a 538 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,280 stink when the decisions were being made. 539 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,600 And now they're they're upset after the fact, but there's not 540 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,320 much they can do about it. Now He's like, now that it's now 541 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,520 that there's precedent and that the organization knows that it 542 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,000 works and they're making money, He's like, it's really hard to 543 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,560 unring the bell, but he's like, if you want, if you, he's like, 544 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,520 people have got to pay more attention and use their voice in 545 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,200 the moments when it's actually going to, you know, influence 546 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,720 one way or the other. Maybe. 547 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,080 Maybe he was right. Maybe we're going to learn Novak 548 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,480 was right all along. I mean, you'd like, you know, 549 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,280 you never know, but at the same time, you never know that you 550 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,320 just feel like the organization should be looking out for the 551 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,240 best interest of the player without having to be policed to 552 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,320 such a large degree. And it's like, yeah, we get it 553 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,520 that tennis, the tennis player community is not always as 554 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,440 organized in the best way as they could to, like, have their 555 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,920 voice heard. But I think systemically, it's 556 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,920 not really designed for them to have much of A voice. 557 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:53,200 So it does feel a little not great to blame the players. 558 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,600 It's like, I'm sure if they felt like they could have more than 559 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,760 impact than they would blame the victim. 560 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,240 I don't know. Yeah. 561 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,600 Yeah. Novak. 562 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,040 But it was, you know, it's interesting though, because also 563 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,960 even just looking at because every day counts, I was like, 564 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,400 well, why did Cincinnati have a Monday final when their semis 565 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,960 were all on Saturday? They didn't need that Sunday 566 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,560 off. Why did the mixed double S start 567 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,120 on a Tuesday instead of a Wednesday? 568 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,480 Like it didn't have to start on the like totally to to have a 569 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,800 final end. And Eaga, again, props for Eaga 570 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,960 'cause she played the later final in Cincinnati, gets on the 571 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:34,440 that she's got APJ with with with Carlos and gets to gets to 572 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,200 the US Open to play the next day midday. 573 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,800 Admirable. But then at the same time, sort 574 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,680 of what you were saying earlier to play like a couple of Fast 575 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,240 forward sets, like, yeah, she's an elite athlete. 576 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,000 I think she can handle it. Yeah, yeah, and by and let's 577 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,280 let's even say the word play loosely. 578 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,680 Let's jump into the US Open a little bit real quick. 579 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,240 Not only can you go to Instagram to check in about being our next 580 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:12,240 ball boy, America's next top ball, you can also see our 581 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,160 latest Bay TP rankings. And what does all this mean? 582 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,600 The action from Canada, the action from Cincinnati, the 583 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,720 action from mixed double S. And we can see who's rising to 584 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,560 the top. And I am so excited to. 585 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,920 I'll just let you all know that we've got Andrea Vavasori 586 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,400 holding it down for the double specialist in the number one 587 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,840 slot for the Bay TP rankings. He's been on the ranks before. 588 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:39,040 He's about to join us live from. Ladies and gentlemen, we are now 589 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,880 coming to live from the locker room where Vavasori is getting 590 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,680 rubbed down with Yonic Sinner's massage oils. 591 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,360 That's how we're. Going to test him danger. 592 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,680 No, but he like, look, we're let's just jump into the mixed 593 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,280 double S. You know, Andrea Vavasori, mixed 594 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,720 double specialist. I am so freaking happy that he 595 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:09,920 and Sarah Arani won the title. I think that, I mean, I know 596 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,840 that we all have Sarah Arani is a very polarizing figure. 597 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,840 Her 62 mile an hour first serve and and not the underhand, the 598 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,160 actual overhead serve that's in the low 60s is hard to watch. 599 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,440 But I'm glad that the double specialist won because the mixed 600 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,880 double S, I'm feeling mixed about it. 601 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,000 And I know that this is starting to feel like a mixed double S 602 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,800 podcast, but that's only because we've been talking about mixed 603 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,000 double S for the last three episodes straight. 604 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,600 But I promise after today that will end. 605 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,280 But we have the Champions, we've got Sarah Ronnie, we've got 606 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,160 Andrea Vavasori. Take it to the stars of the 607 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,400 Singles tour. And to remind, the only reason 608 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,960 that they were in the draw is because they won the mixed 609 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,360 double S of the US Open last year. 610 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:01,880 And so it was optically would have been so pernicious to not 611 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,800 include them that they were thrown a bone. 612 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,040 And you know, even though, even though I'm sure the organizers 613 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,960 had no confidence they were going to be a draw in and of 614 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,680 themselves for for fans, they, they were, they were graciously 615 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,400 allowed to participate. Not only that, I bet the 616 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,240 organizers was like we're going to show these fucking double S 617 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,360 losers they're going to lose in the first round. 618 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,800 I think you're. Right way they can possibly beat 619 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,080 the stars of the tour and. They burn. 620 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,200 Yeah, burnt. Yeah, basic. 621 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,120 I mean they they ran the board. They they took out Fritz and 622 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,480 Rabacana, which on the last show we talked about like what the 623 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,160 hell do Fritz and Rabacana have they ever even played together? 624 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,320 Or how is that they they? Actually had buzz about they're 625 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,520 like people were convinced they were actually going to be a good 626 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,720 team together and then it was kind of a blowout. 627 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,520 Right. Well, yeah, they were. 628 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,760 They were the second seeds, but yeah, they lost in straight 629 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,400 quote, UN quote sets. And then Vavasori and Irani took 630 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,280 out Mukava and Rublev and then they took out Collins and 631 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,720 Harrison and then Ego Shvantek and Rude. 632 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,520 And again, more props for Ego. I mean, maybe Ego needs to be on 633 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,960 the Bay TP because I'm obviously obsessed with her on this 634 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,080 episode. But she was one of the few 635 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,800 singles players that really wanted to win. 636 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,760 Like you could tell she was. She was not there to get a 637 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,600 participation trophy. She wasn't there to entertain 638 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,120 the crowd. She was there to fucking win. 639 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,320 And the way she kind of like Dom topped Casper Rude. 640 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,320 He was her little sub. And I like. 641 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,880 I like. Seeing him just slip into his 642 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,000 little beta mode and it's like he's like, I'm just, I'm just 643 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,120 here to support you guys like, like the the Phoenix on court. 644 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,520 Yeah, OK. So the the pluses of this new 645 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,680 format are obvious. The stands were packed. 646 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,880 So I went there on day one. We were on Ash Stadium. 647 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,840 Half the matches were on Armstrong. 648 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,040 The Armstrong Stadium was free to get into. 649 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,120 So I mean, in New York, any free event is overwhelmed. 650 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,760 But yes, there were a ton of there were a ton of people 651 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,040 there. I've never seen that level of 652 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,200 crowd for any mixed match in my life. 653 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,440 So that's that's. Or probably any or any any event 654 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,239 or Invitational or programming the week before the actual SLAM 655 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,080 starts either. 100%, these were the biggest names in tennis. 656 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,880 I saw the Carlos Alcaraz and Emma Radicano versus Jack Draper 657 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,000 and Jess Pagula, and it was like, OK, the spectacle of this, 658 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,320 it's pretty cool. And the matches were incredibly 659 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,679 short. We saw six matches in about 4 660 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:34,080 1/2 hours. Bing Bang Boom goes there with 661 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,960 Tim Chow and Fabio Salas. Hey guys, if you're listening, 662 00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,440 super fun day. But the way we kind of described 663 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,040 it, by the end, it was like a charcuterie board of matches. 664 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,280 It was an amuse bouche or an amuse deuce, as I like to say. 665 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,960 It's just like it was a nibble. It was like a taste like an. 666 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,120 Amuse and a booze deuce is what what happens after I have too 667 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,440 many amuse. After after your charcuterie 668 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,000 because I've seen you attack a meat board. 669 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,160 You and some meat. Oof, honey. 670 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,360 Balamis, yeah. That's salami. 671 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,200 It runs right through you, is what they say. 672 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,280 But you know, it. Was it like these matches? 673 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,400 Like the matches didn't really feel like matches. 674 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,680 They didn't sink in. I mean, they didn't have time 675 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,280 to. There wasn't, there wasn't, 676 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,760 there wasn't enough. Like they literally just weren't 677 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,240 long enough or intense enough for there to be huge momentum 678 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:25,960 swings and like, you know, narratives to the match. 679 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,120 Like, they just, they came and went and they were fun like, but 680 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,960 they were like caught cotton candy confections. 681 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,440 For the most part, Yeah. The quality of the match, the 682 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,600 actual action, I'm just going to say it was was pretty mid. 683 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:41,000 Yes, it was cool to see these stars, but a lot of them were 684 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,480 not very good Double S players. There were some surprises. 685 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,920 Like I thought, I thought Mukava Rublev like, worked weirdly well 686 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,640 together. Yeah, yeah. 687 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,400 And Ika had more of a net game than I expected from her. 688 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,800 Like, that was a pleasant surprise. 689 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,760 And you kind of wonder then, is that actually going to factor in 690 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,760 a little bit in singles too, like seeing her complete her all 691 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,000 court game a little more. Well, and and that's one of the 692 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,920 questions that I want to get to in a second is just sort of who, 693 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,000 who did participating in this help and who did it hurt? 694 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,440 Because I think someone who it hurt was Naomi Osaka. 695 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,960 I mean, I love the resurgence of Naomi. 696 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,040 I love her Osaga. She is really coming back and 697 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,120 and her form is great. Dude, she doesn't have a net 698 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,360 game. But also it's it's not just can 699 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,560 you play at the net or not? Double S is so much more than 700 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,400 that. Double S is how do we as a team 701 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,080 cover this court? How do we strategize? 702 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,440 How do we create opportunities and angles? 703 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,960 A lot of these matches felt like 4 good singles players trying to 704 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,760 win a point. It was not. 705 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,160 There was not a lot of teamwork. There was a lot of cases where 706 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,640 the guys would kind of run in from the girl and hit the ball, 707 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,880 which was disgusting. Like Carlos Alcaraz, I think 708 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,080 he's trying to be chivalrous, but he kept like hogging the 709 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,000 ball. I was like, bro, stay on your 710 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,360 side. Come on man. 711 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,760 And The thing is, if I look at a player like Carlos or look at a 712 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,480 player like Fritz, I feel like what makes them good singles 713 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:15,280 players is they don't overthink. They run on pure instincts. 714 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,480 Like for Fritz, like I'm being a little shady. 715 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,920 It's like I sometimes I'm like, I don't think you have a thought 716 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,880 in your head and like, and I think that helps you because 717 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,960 you're not, you're not calculating, you're just doing. 718 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,960 It's like, it's like you're letting you're trusting your 719 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,800 body to make the shot. But that but but, but double S, 720 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,200 like you said, it's a totally different ball game. 721 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,600 Your instincts are going to betray you. 722 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,600 If you, if your instincts sort of play like you would play 723 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,000 singles, you, you're very likely not going to win the match and 724 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,200 you're very likely not going to be a good partner to who's on 725 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,360 the court with you. Well, yeah, because not only 726 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,880 were these not Double S players, these were also Double S teams 727 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,480 that I'm not sure if they'd ever played together in any type of a 728 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,400 match setting. Maybe they practice. 729 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,360 I'm sure they all had a hit together, but the experience 730 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,440 level as Double S players was really, really low. 731 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,360 So it felt, I felt like we were getting, like you said before, 732 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,480 it was like a cotton candy virgin virgin, a version of 733 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,240 these. And, and that's great. 734 00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:12,080 But I also, I was like, wait, we've got this massive audience 735 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,920 and they are getting the wrong idea of what double S should 736 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,720 look and feel and taste like. It's like, no, it's so much 737 00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:23,160 smarter than what we saw. Just to talk about a few other 738 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,240 cons real quick, Like, I also hated how the draw was changing 739 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:29,240 up to the very end. I mean, obviously Yannick 740 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:31,880 Sinner, who got sick from all that horrible food that they 741 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,440 produce in the Midwest. You know, he pulls out and then 742 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,040 for some weird reason Sinyakova had to pull out too. 743 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,080 I'm, well, I'm so pissed about what happened to Sinyakova 744 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,880 because she got majorly screwed on a number of levels. 745 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:48,920 It's like, first of all, put some respect on Katarina 746 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,800 Siniakova's name. One, the Olympics. 747 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,560 Yeah, one the Olympics. Mixed double s, Former world 748 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,640 number one. It's like Sinner, I was Sinner 749 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,120 already her second partner. I don't, I don't remember, but 750 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,320 it's like. She wasn't in. 751 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,600 She wasn't. That's right, She. 752 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,520 Wasn't in and people were thinking it's like, oh, it makes 753 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,840 sense. Put her in with with Mahash 754 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,560 because it's like they're they're cute. 755 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,080 They have a narrative. They're gonna do it, yeah. 756 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,800 Yeah, but then it's like, oh, OK, good. 757 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,160 At least she's in with Sinner and and you kind of in your 758 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,560 mind, you're like, damn, well that's like a powerhouse team. 759 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,720 And then and then when, yeah, when Sinner withdrew, you're 760 00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:21,240 convinced. It's like, I mean, she has an 761 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:24,120 asset to this tournament. It's like, yeah, somebody's got 762 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,080 to want to pair with her. She got screwed. 763 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,960 And I and that again, it's like it's the lack of consideration 764 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,360 for the double specialist that I feel like feeds the the 765 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:38,200 narrative of of why this is kind of like bad vibes. 766 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:43,440 But again, it's sort of like to replace Sinner and Senyakova 767 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,080 with Collins and and Harrison It, it just felt a little odd. 768 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,200 I mean, honestly, I was like, there's so many partner changes. 769 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,480 It's like the backroom of the eagle. 770 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,200 Like what is going on? Then Draper ends up with Pagula. 771 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,080 We get Dragula, which I I dressed as Dragula for 772 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,200 Halloween, but I mean it's. Just like someone on Twitter 773 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,000 said that their their anti chemistry actually worked 774 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,800 surprisingly well. It's like they're such an odd 775 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,880 couple and yet like they kind of, they kind of clicked. 776 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,640 Yeah, I did love the clip of him in the interview after the first 777 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,600 round. Calling it an exhibition. 778 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:21,360 Exhibition she's like, we're not saying that like, you know, 779 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,520 sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. 780 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:29,360 I loved Sarah, Ronnie and Andrea above stories the way that they 781 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,080 like played rough with each other. 782 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,520 Like when they won a point and they were like yelling at each. 783 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,200 They were just like, and that's that was Sarah. 784 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,760 Like it was just like they were so into it. 785 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,880 But the other teams, they felt like it was almost like 786 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,520 embarrassing to care or something. 787 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,280 Like Medvedev was barely engaged when he played. 788 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,000 Well, what's new? I know fucking fucking Medvedev 789 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:53,640 bro. Where? 790 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:54,880 Where is he? Where he at? 791 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,920 But yeah, so, OK, so back to that question though. 792 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,720 So who is who's going to benefit from having participated in this 793 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:09,240 and who is not? I feel like the tournament 794 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:13,120 organizers benefit, the fans benefit, but I feel like with a 795 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,040 little retooling, everybody could benefit. 796 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:21,240 I'm going to maybe slightly go in a different direction than 797 00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:24,520 you and say I actually thought that this was a very successful 798 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,760 experiment and it was almost more successful. 799 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,240 It was successful in spite of the fact that they had all of 800 00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:33,240 this last minute chaos, but it still worked. 801 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,520 Everybody was talking about it. It was extremely well attended. 802 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,040 It was kind of fun. Do I feel like they should just 803 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,320 call it an Invitational? Yes. 804 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,880 I mean, they, they like literally after the mixed double 805 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,520 S, they have the Legends Invitational events. 806 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,360 Maybe this is like a little bit of a middle ground, but I think 807 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,120 that they should treat this as a way to generate a lot of revenue 808 00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:01,000 for the tournament and increase the the winnings pool for the 809 00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:04,360 double S players. Obviously have the big fat cash 810 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,320 prize for the mixed double S winners, but I think that you 811 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,800 can juice up the checks of the double S players that don't have 812 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,800 the chance to play mixed double S now. 813 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,400 I mean, mixed double S has always been a little bit of an 814 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,600 outlier. You're not getting points for 815 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,600 mixed double S, you know, like it's not it's not increasing 816 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,480 your double S ranking. So like it's I it's if there is 817 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,320 room to play in any of these modalities, I think it's mixed. 818 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,480 So I'm not fully against it in principle. 819 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,160 Is it taking away a little bit of the mixed double S players 820 00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:39,400 like exposure to fans and like sure, but like, OK, where has 821 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,320 they've had they've had decades, you know, I mean, like I I I 822 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,880 think we like we got to be realistic. 823 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,880 Like it was a lot of fun. It was a lot of it was very 824 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,160 successful. I think they probably like like 825 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,960 television revenue is probably way up, you know, or like. 826 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,280 ESP ESPN got a lot of fun. What made it fun? 827 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,880 Because the matches were not the matches. 828 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,200 OK, well I watched. I didn't watch The Who did you? 829 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,440 Who did you love? What match did you love? 830 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:09,640 I watched the semi finals and I watched the final and I mean, 831 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,120 God, that semi final between Draper Pagula and Rude Chiantek 832 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,960 was amazing. Yeah, that was an that was an 833 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,840 awesome match. And the the the. 834 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,560 Collins The final was great. Yeah, and the match I watched 835 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,560 with Collins and Harrison was good too. 836 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:29,160 But but I think that this experiment needs, they need to 837 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,200 make some tweaks. I don't, I don't know about the 838 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,800 Fast 4. I don't know if it all needs to 839 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:38,040 be so condensed, but yeah, sorry to say I liked it OK. 840 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,280 No, no, that's fine. And a lot of people like it and 841 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,520 and and they are touting it as a massive success just by crowd 842 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,840 size. And I just, I wonder, is size 843 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,280 the only thing that matters to, well, a boy like you? 844 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,840 I mean, you know, size matters. Not the only thing. 845 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,000 It's not the only thing. And I just I, I also I, I care 846 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,760 about girth and depth and I just don't know if we had either of 847 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,360 those in this tournament. And my fear is, so here's my 848 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,760 prediction. If they keep it the way it is, 849 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,680 it's going to be just like the Laver Cup, which used to be 850 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,600 literally the top ten top 12 players facing off. 851 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,360 And now they just announced they got freaking mensick going to 852 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,640 San Francisco and Caboli's going and like, great. 853 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,160 I love them, but I think that I don't think that Carlos Alcaraz 854 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,560 is going to play this next year because it did feel like an 855 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,880 exhibition. I think we're going to end up 856 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,480 getting Imboko and freaking like Kachanov as a team, and it's 857 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,200 like, why? I think that we're not going to 858 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,920 have the star power at this level going forward. 859 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,640 I'm interested to see. I mean, you might be right, but 860 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,920 at the same time, it's like like a check's a check and like these 861 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,880 were juicy checks. I really think that that's what 862 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,560 drew people is that is that even even like why? 863 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,080 The first round was kind of like, yeah, but like, make it, 864 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,640 make it to the quarters and like, you're you're pocketing 865 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,960 some fat money. I mean, to win. 866 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,760 But like, I mean, Irani Vavasori won $1,000,000. 867 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,000 Split a million, the finalists split 400,000. 868 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,560 I think the finalists split 200,000 and like yes. 869 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,320 I was like, pretty good. I don't know. 870 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,680 No, no, your perspective on on economics here. 871 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,840 But like I'd be happy with it. Oh, I, I, I use $100,000 as 872 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,680 toilet paper, but no, but $100,000, that's what you get 873 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,760 for the first round of singles. It's not nothing, but it's not 874 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,480 like Daniel Collins life did not change because she got a check 875 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,680 for. That there's structural barriers 876 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,000 for why it wouldn't work nearly as well at other Slams, too. 877 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,600 It's like the Wimbledon organizers don't want them 878 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,680 tearing up the lawn with mixed double s. 879 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:44,000 Like, so like there's, there's considerations. 880 00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,600 I don't know if it makes sense to just have one random 881 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,560 different mixed double s structure for a tournament 882 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,440 during the year, but like, it's not up to me. 883 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,800 So we'll see where it goes. OK, an upcoming game folks, is 884 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,040 going to be how are each of the grand slams going to change 885 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,240 mixed double S like is Australia going to have all right, this 886 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:06,040 one, it's going to be out in the in the Outback and the French 1. 887 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,200 You have to smoke a cigarette. I don't know, because you're 888 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,560 right. We now are going to have 889 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,160 different formats and that's that's also weird. 890 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,000 It's weird, it is weird, but it's but it's also it's just a 891 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,040 referendum on like what's the future of mixed double S? 892 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,560 Maybe it was. Maybe it was time to ask the 893 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,600 question. Yeah, no, you're right. 894 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,440 Because they have had a few decades to get an audience and 895 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,480 they haven't. And so it's like, OK, what's, 896 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:40,120 what's the daily? And just like that, the US Open 897 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,440 is starting. We've got everyone in New York 898 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:47,520 again with Carrie and Miranda and Charlotte, and we've got the 899 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,840 first round starting tomorrow. Again. 900 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,960 Every day counts. So now the US Open starts on a 901 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,760 Sunday because why the hell not? So let's talk about the previews 902 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,640 of what's coming up, the matches we're excited about and make 903 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,160 some of our always spot on predictions. 904 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:10,320 So looking at the draws, they really are giving us some 905 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,680 popcorn matches this first round. 906 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,960 I mean, on the men's side, we've got Booblick versus Chilich, 907 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,120 former U.S. Open champion Chilich, my player 908 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,000 of the year, Sasha Bublek, who has just been on a tear, 909 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,640 although I don't know if he's actually played on hard courts 910 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,920 this summer because he went off and played a bunch of clay 911 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,880 courts after Wimbledon. Well, neither, neither has 912 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,960 chillage either really. So that's true. 913 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,720 But I but I cannot wait to see it. 914 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,560 Then we've got Lorenzo Moussetti, who has really been 915 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,840 on the skids since basically the clay court season going up 916 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,400 against Mpeshi Pericard. And Peshi Pericard was just 917 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,640 breaking sound barriers in the Winston Salem Open, served in 918 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,600 one match, the five fastest serves ever served at Winston 919 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,280 Salem, All of them. He's got all the records and you 920 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,960 know, they're all well over 140 miles an hour. 921 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,920 So that guy, I, I don't want to face him in the in an early 922 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,080 round. So that's going to be a, a 923 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,200 tricky one for Mousetti. And also, by the way, what the 924 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,520 Hell's going on with Mousetti? He's growing his hair out again. 925 00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:18,320 He's no longer being a fashion icon and he's playing like shit. 926 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,240 Well, I don't know. I don't think hardcourts have 927 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:24,360 ever really been his surface. But no, he's going through a 928 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,120 dip. Whenever I see a player who just 929 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,640 seems to lose momentum out of nowhere, I assume it's something 930 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,200 physical. I, I just, and I think so many 931 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,520 players are carrying injuries that they're being a bit quiet 932 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,800 about. Yeah, there's probably something 933 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,720 physical going on. I think he's been wearing a like 934 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:48,440 an arm sleeve for a while now. Part of me has a theory that he 935 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,400 exploded into the zeitgeist with that APC kit. 936 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:58,680 Everyone was just oozing and gooing and gawing over him and 937 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,600 he just shut it all down. He is wearing the ugliest 938 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,600 fucking kits. He looks like a regular 939 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,960 schmegular boring fucking headband. 940 00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:09,720 Because I think maybe just like when everyone's looking at you, 941 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,320 I'm sure you like look with you in that beard. 942 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,880 When everyone's looking at you, like you feel, you feel all eyes 943 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,840 on you. And it's like so. 944 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,040 And I'm. Like hey, hey baby, I. 945 00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:22,200 Mean like I am Wolverine. OK, then we also have Novak and 946 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,600 Lerner TN TN loves playing a top TN player. 947 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,560 He definitely doesn't shrink from the spotlight. 948 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,000 That's that's going to be a tough match for Novak. 949 00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:33,680 He'll have this and yeah, TN will have the support of the 950 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:38,040 crowd and Novak takes it. He takes a little time lately to 951 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,400 work his way into tournaments, like, he's not always bringing 952 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,400 out his best game, you know? Who'll also say that's true of 953 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:49,000 is Carlitos, who is facing Opelka in the opening round, 954 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,160 which is like, talk about a player that's not going to let 955 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:56,520 you get any rhythm in your game And like, to be honest with you. 956 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,080 Like, I have absolutely no idea how that one's going to turn 957 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,320 out. Yeah, no, it's funny. 958 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,400 Like Opelka is kind of like the opposite of Ito. 959 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,600 They're like opposite ends of the same spectrum where it's 960 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,560 impossible to get a rhythm against either of them. 961 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,160 From the women's side, some other great first rounders, 962 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,000 we've got your girl Pavlio Chenkova against Yastramska. 963 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,920 It's, it's funny because Pavs has had a great, I'd say a year 964 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,520 and a half, but like the last couple months have not been too 965 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,000 hot for her. And I think Yastramska has 966 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,840 actually carried some injury issues too. 967 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,480 Like it might be a like. Who? 968 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,360 Which one, which one doesn't wilt first, you know, and it's a 969 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,960 Ukrainian versus Russian match too. 970 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,360 So it's just like extra, extra emotional stakes. 971 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,360 They, they always are. I swear to God, these 972 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,560 tournaments are they have a sick, sick tendency to like they 973 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,720 always stick those, those contrasting players in the draw 974 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:50,960 together. And it's like, it's like, are 975 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,040 you trying to like create some drama here? 976 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,720 I kind of think so. What other matches on the WTA 977 00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:57,680 side are you excited about? Well, come on, Kurji. 978 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,240 We talked about Kurjikova and Boko. 979 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:04,960 And Boko, OK, I'm not. I don't know that's I'm scared. 980 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,640 But you know, it's one of those matches where I will be happy 981 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,920 either way because I love in Boko as a rising star. 982 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,320 I think she's got a big game, bright future. 983 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,960 She seems like a total sweetie. And I, I love Krichikova, but I 984 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,040 also acknowledge, like, at this point, I'm used to the fact that 985 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,360 it's like my girl's always fighting something. 986 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,400 We don't, we don't know who's going to show up, and that's OK. 987 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,320 I've, I've made peace. A sleeper match I'm very 988 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:33,880 interested in is Zheng Shui versus Benchich, because yeah, 989 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,800 my girl Auntie Auntie Zhang has been looking real good, has 990 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,280 clawed her way back from that, that losing streak and is like 991 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,840 sitting just outside that, the top 100. 992 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,880 And bench is like, bench technically can be so good, but 993 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,360 then some, sometimes she just doesn't show up, you know, and 994 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,760 it feels like the energy is not there, so I don't. 995 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,640 Know her energy levels been low the last few few times I've seen 996 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,760 her play like ever since it was at the semi final at Wimbledon 997 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,520 where I mean she lost a toenail which is just like. 998 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,280 Oh God, I know. I, just like you, hate. 999 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,520 Since then, she hasn't really done much. 1000 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:18,040 We know that every Grand Slam, there's always going to be a 1001 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:24,600 surprise exit early. So on the count of three, I want 1002 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,000 us to each name the top men's player. 1003 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,840 Let's say top 15 men's player, who's going to crap out early. 1004 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:39,560 Are you ready? Top 16 top top 1516 yeah OK yeah 1005 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:49,200 yeah fine. OK OK ready yeah 321 Medvedev. 1006 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:54,160 Yeah, yeah. Daniel, Daniel, Daniel. 1007 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,560 I love you. I I will always be a fan of 1008 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,720 Daniel Medvedev. I will, I will watch him play, 1009 00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:04,720 but he's just, he is lost right now and I don't think he even 1010 00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:07,320 knows how to find his way back. Yeah. 1011 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,720 Why? Why are you picking Daniel? 1012 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:15,200 If you just look at the the numbers, his serve speeds down, 1013 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,200 his game has collapsed a little bit in the ways that were the 1014 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,560 difference maker for him winning a tough match. 1015 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,240 He's a confidence player. He plays well when he has belief 1016 00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:31,560 and when he doesn't, he like, like some of these men's players 1017 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,080 like they just when they don't, when they're not feeling it, 1018 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,080 they just are checked out. They're checked out. 1019 00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:41,280 There's a resignation to just being like it's not going to 1020 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,920 happen and like you don't want to, you don't want to show 1021 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,400 yourself fighting for it and then coming up short. 1022 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,800 And he used to have, I think that's a great point because he 1023 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,000 used to have a fighting spirit where like he didn't care if the 1024 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,200 entire crowd was against him. Like when he first first on, he 1025 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,080 loved overcoming the odds. He loved being the guy who was 1026 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,440 your foil. Isn't that fighting spirit right 1027 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,160 now? So. 1028 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,240 No, but I think some of it is just the context of where you're 1029 00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:06,320 at in your career. It's like, yeah. 1030 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,960 You know we exist in the. Context, Yeah, exactly why is 1031 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:17,040 poet philosopher once said like, you know, he's he's won a slam. 1032 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,200 And I'm sure, I'm sure for the first couple years after that he 1033 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,480 was like, I'm going to get another one, I'm going to get 1034 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,360 another one. But then when, when the belief 1035 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:30,160 goes, you start to say, well, if this is it, I've done more than 1036 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:34,160 most, you know. I don't think he ever recovered 1037 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:38,280 from losing that final in 2024 Australian Open when he was up 1038 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,840 two sets to love over Yonic Center. 1039 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,960 That was his to win and it was going to be a second one. 1040 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,040 And then he kind of would have been like ready to bow out. 1041 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,120 And but it's just sort of like he's never he's never been in 1042 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:54,000 the top conversation since. OK, on the ladies side, which 1043 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,160 top woman is going to crap out early on the count of three? 1044 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,160 To have someone in mind, consult your crystal balls. 1045 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,440 Ready. Yeah. 321. 1046 00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:13,520 Oh, OK. I mean, we we both went pretty 1047 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,000 brave with that actually, to be honest with you. 1048 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,840 There's there's so many names like I could have said could. 1049 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,080 Have been Andreva. It could have been an Emma. 1050 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:22,640 Navarro. Yeah. 1051 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:24,640 It could have been Navarro. Exactly. 1052 00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:26,280 Yeah. Who else? 1053 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,120 Who else was that? Yeah. 1054 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,560 Andreva. Exactly. 1055 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,160 It's like, where has she been lately? 1056 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,040 Where she been? Yeah. 1057 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,120 I mean even like a Maddie Keys, it's like she could either win 1058 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,560 it all or she could go out first round. 1059 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,000 You never know. Maddie Keys like, come on, she 1060 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,880 is, she's killing me lately. Her losses are not good losses. 1061 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,320 I don't know what's going on. I mean, do you remember back 1062 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,200 when she won the slam, the energy round? 1063 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,040 Like, oh, she got a new racket And like it's like, wow. 1064 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,760 Like like just all it took was an equipment change and it's 1065 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,600 like all the pieces have fallen into place. 1066 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,560 And like, I mean, she's, it's not like she's had a bad season, 1067 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:59,400 but it's just hasn't been like the season you'd want after 1068 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,320 winning a slam probably. It's like been a lot of very mid 1069 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,160 performances, third rounds, quarters. 1070 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,000 I'm just looking at it like, come on, girl. 1071 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,680 That first week is going to be really exciting. 1072 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,200 Who can make it to round three? Who can make it to round four 1073 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,120 out of nowhere? And I do think, I think the tour 1074 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,600 is cooked right now. I think people are fried in a 1075 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,160 way that they haven't been in a while. 1076 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,040 And I I think it opens the door to players who may be a little 1077 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,320 bit younger, fresher. Their game is rawr, but rawr 1078 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,840 rawr. Wait, OK, so real, real quick. 1079 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,240 Who's your dark horse to make a run? 1080 00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:35,240 Not necessarily to win it all, but who's going to make a run? 1081 00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:36,720 Who are we going to be like? Whoa. 1082 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,880 Shelton, I think I like his draw. 1083 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,560 I like the way he's been playing lately. 1084 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:49,040 I feel like he his game is so much more complete than it was a 1085 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,840 couple years ago. I could see La Hatch, La Hatcha 1086 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,400 making a run. Can I make an insane prediction? 1087 00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,520 Yeah. So I believe that in the fourth 1088 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,160 round, Davidovich Fukina takes out Alcaraz. 1089 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,800 That's that's assuming Alcaraz makes it to the fourth round. 1090 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,200 Well, OK, OK, well, yes, this is true. 1091 00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:14,640 He might lose to a Palka or I. Really think he might lose to a 1092 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,080 Palka. It's I mean, I hope I'm wrong 1093 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,240 and I'm not. I don't know if I'm confident 1094 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,880 enough to say that. I'd like put money on it, but I 1095 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,400 just think that's a tough. I think it's a little bit of 1096 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,560 wishful thinking too, though, because like Bellucci is playing 1097 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,240 Jerry, Jerry Shang, who I love. I love Jerry Shang, but he's 1098 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,720 coming back from injury. So it's, I feel like Bellucci 1099 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,600 has a shot and I, I don't know, I kind of like who who would I 1100 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,760 want Bellucci to face? Would I want him to face a Pelka 1101 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,760 or or Carlito's? And actually, I don't even know 1102 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:42,480 the answer to that. Yeah. 1103 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,440 Yeah. I mean, Bellucci's in my 1104 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,480 bracket. I, I learned my lesson last time 1105 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,080 where it's like I, I was thought I was being a realist and not 1106 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,720 including him. And then he actually did really 1107 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,440 well at Wimbledon, so. Yeah, for anyone who doesn't 1108 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,520 know Coleman, he runs a bracket that I'm a part of, and 1109 00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,640 basically I just get him to tell me his predictions on this show, 1110 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,680 and then I take those predictions and put them into my 1111 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,520 bracket. I haven't won yet, but I keep, 1112 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,760 I'll keep trying. OK, prediction time. 1113 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,320 Who's winning it all on the men's side? 1114 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:17,440 Who's taking it? Yannick, which, yeah, I mean 1115 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,680 Sinner, but it's but yeah, but it's tough because assuming he's 1116 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,960 back to full health, yeah, I mean, that's it. 1117 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,160 Even a compromised Sinner is is heads and tails ahead of the 1118 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,960 rest of the tour. So maybe Pop maybe Poppering 1119 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,720 could cause him some trouble, but like, I doubt it. 1120 00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,120 Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. I have Sinner taking it over 1121 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,240 either Fritz or Shelton. And then the women's side, I do 1122 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,320 have Sabalenka and Sviantek in the final. 1123 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:44,440 I think. I think we're actually going to 1124 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:49,160 have an in form final for the top 2 and I think Sviantek takes 1125 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,240 it. Yeah, wouldn't surprise me at 1126 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,760 all. I mean, Sabalenka has a really 1127 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,800 good draw. And so I like there have been 1128 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,800 question marks about her lately. Like, matches have been pretty 1129 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,960 close and like, lower ranked players have taken it to her in 1130 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,280 a way that they haven't usually in the past. 1131 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,560 But I think her, I think her draw is easy enough in the first 1132 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,000 few rounds that she can play her way into it. 1133 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,360 Yeah. And fiance. 1134 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,320 Yeah, Fiance is just just red hot. 1135 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,240 Red hot and I don't think Sablink is going to win a Grand 1136 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,040 Slam this year, even though she's number one, I don't think 1137 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:25,600 she's taking one so. So Maria Zachary versus Maria 1138 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,800 who's who's taking that first round match? 1139 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,160 Zachary versus Maria. Yeah. 1140 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,800 Oh, definitely, Zachary. OK, She's gets one win and then 1141 00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:35,720 she's out. Yeah. 1142 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,640 I remember when it was semi final Zachary. 1143 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:39,840 They don't. They don't even say that 1144 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,520 anymore. I know, poor thing. 1145 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:46,200 I know she's she's cooked. I actually adore her though, 1146 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,800 like I adore her personality. She's so sweet in interviews, 1147 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,440 like I I I'm rooting for her. But we're all rooting for her. 1148 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,400 Yeah, and you got? To make it happen. 1149 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,640 Yeah, sorry. Real, real quick. 1150 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,160 What time is it? 137. 1151 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,400 No, it's it's time for cross court. 1152 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,640 Oh shit. It's back, I've got my little 1153 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:16,600 gavel and my RGB. I mean, did did RTV have the 1154 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,520 have the deck color Taj showing quite like that? 1155 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,240 Like tits out showing off my cleavage. 1156 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,640 My cleavage. It's out for the court. 1157 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,000 Yeah. And we are going to have some 1158 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,760 order in the court because we're going to end our show with cross 1159 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,000 court. It's our segment talking about 1160 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,400 all the things that are pissing us off in tennis and how to fix 1161 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,480 them. It's called cross court. 1162 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,400 And yes, Matthew and I are the line judge and jury. 1163 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,880 So this is the third case that we are trying in cross court. 1164 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,120 And this is the case of double S indemnity. 1165 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,160 So good people of the court today we have the case of double 1166 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,480 S indemnity. For far too long, Double S has 1167 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,240 lurked in the shadows of singles, starved for attention 1168 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,200 like a twink at the Eagle, lacking funds like a twink at 1169 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,600 the Eagle, and being met with both derision and pity like a 1170 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:15,640 twink at the Eagle. But I ask you, wherefore, when 1171 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,000 we've been lucky enough to watch great double s, it's some of the 1172 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,720 greatest tennis talent around. It's rarely dominated by serve 1173 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:27,720 bots, or just a passing shot, or just a one hit wonder. 1174 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,600 It's about angles. It's about craft. 1175 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:36,560 It's about exceptional teamwork. And so the case today of cross 1176 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,720 court, the question in front of us all is who is guilty for 1177 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,880 keeping Double S from being a singular sensation. 1178 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,920 And so we've got a couple of potential parties to place the 1179 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:54,320 blame on. So is it the tournaments for not 1180 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:58,240 providing enough prize money to entice top talent to hone their 1181 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,760 Double S pedigree? Not just to enter one time a 1182 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,120 year to play Double S because we saw what happened there. 1183 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,600 Yeah, maybe it'll be a decent match, but we need top talent 1184 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,240 coming in all the time, so let's get them more money. 1185 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,960 Or is it the tours themselves for scheduling such impossible 1186 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,800 calendars that there's just no time for a player to play both 1187 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,560 singles and double S? Like a lot of tops used to come 1188 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,880 on back in the day in the 80s and the 90s, early aughts, the 1189 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,520 number one players in the world were also playing double S. 1190 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,960 The Christie Everts, the Martina Navratilova, the Leighton 1191 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,400 Hewitt's, you know, Andre Agassi, they were all playing 1192 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,440 both of them. They don't do it anymore because 1193 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:41,000 the tours are too challenging. Is it the media, the evil media 1194 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,600 for rarely showing any double S matches on TV, making it really 1195 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,240 hard for anyone not at the tournaments to give a crap? 1196 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,880 Is it the players themselves for choosing a more solitary life? 1197 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,760 Have we all become too addicted to our smartphones and social 1198 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,760 media that we don't know how to have teamwork and community 1199 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,640 anymore? Or is it the fans, the fans 1200 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:09,440 themselves, us selves? I consider us fans and media for 1201 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,840 not having a connection to Double S team that we have to 1202 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,360 singles players. I mean, Matthew, you and I, 1203 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,360 we've just spent three hours talking about how much we love 1204 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,280 Daniel Medvedev and you've been talking about how much you love 1205 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,640 Maria Zachary. Wherefore is the love for the 1206 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,080 double S specialist? You know, other than Sarah, 1207 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,160 Ronnie and Andrea Vasafouri, it's hard to know which one of 1208 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:35,680 the specialists out there. So between those six potential 1209 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:41,240 defendants, Matthew Coleman in this cross court, who is the 1210 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,720 most guilty? It's a hung. 1211 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:48,480 Jury for me, it's a hung jury because I feel I feel two of 1212 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:54,640 these are most at fault and I would say on the one hand it's 1213 01:03:54,640 --> 01:04:00,800 it's the tours yeah, I think that that top players don't 1214 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,800 invest in their double S careers because they're it's out of self 1215 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,600 protection. They're like I they're like I 1216 01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,880 don't I literally don't know if I'm going to have to play two 1217 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,040 matches in a day in a week where I'm playing a match every single 1218 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,840 day and then have to throw a double S on top of that. 1219 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,960 You know, I just think they, they know that it's not 1220 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:25,000 sustainable and so they don't. But you know, what I just said 1221 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,560 is that I'm talking about top singles players investing in 1222 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,120 their double s career. Ultimately, if we're talking 1223 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,720 about double S specialist, which is a whole different 1224 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,480 conversation, there really is no one to blame except for 1225 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,120 ourselves. I mean, it is a it is, it is a 1226 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,400 marketplace and we are not showing up with the goods. 1227 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,960 They're selling us their product and we're not buying it. 1228 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:49,600 And I think that like, you know, yeah, we I, there's so much that 1229 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,200 I love about double all the things you said, the the court 1230 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,600 craft, all this. And I think double S, playing 1231 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,760 double S is good for a single player's career in terms of 1232 01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,480 getting comfortable with certain shots and strategies. 1233 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,440 But like, kind of can't blame anyone except for the the people 1234 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,480 who are creating the demand. And that's us. 1235 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:09,560 Yeah, yeah. I fear that it is me. 1236 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:14,160 Hi, I am the problem. It is me, to quote the Bard 1237 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,400 Swift. Yes, I love Double S too, but I 1238 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,960 just don't seek it out. I have I have TC Plus, which 1239 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,360 shows literally every tennis match that is possibly to be 1240 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,640 aired on a television screen and I don't pick the Double S 1241 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,200 matches. I only have so many hours in the 1242 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,640 day and so many eyeballs and have one eye looking that way, 1243 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,000 one eye looking the other way, a brown one looking down below, 1244 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,520 and I can't possibly see much more tennis than I do. 1245 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:46,760 But I do think that it is on us, the fans, to start watching the 1246 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:51,320 double s and appreciating it. And so my punishment, the 1247 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,000 verdict is in the punishment is to watch more Double S matches 1248 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,840 for every Masters and Grand Slam tournament. 1249 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,160 I don't know if it's good for our, if for our case that we're 1250 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:05,840 calling this a punishment. Well, the, the penance, the the, 1251 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,440 the way to make it right. OK, yes, correct. 1252 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:14,800 My punishment would be having to watch Daniel Medvedev and the 1253 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,320 Andreva play Double S again. That would be punishment. 1254 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,360 That would be pure torture, you know? 1255 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,880 Remind us what a what a good thing that we actually have that 1256 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:24,880 we're not paying nearly. Enough. 1257 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,280 Exactly, Exactly. And so, and anyone out there who 1258 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,120 hasn't been to a Double S match in a while, I want you to 1259 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,440 download Sniffies right now. Just kidding. 1260 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,640 But let's give these Double S players and these draws the love 1261 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,520 that they deserve. Let's get out there, let's watch 1262 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:43,720 it. Just give it a try. 1263 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,120 It's sweet, you'll like it. And maybe we can actually just 1264 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,680 have great Double S players playing in the best Double S 1265 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,600 tournaments in the world. And we'll fucking love it. 1266 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,480 And they'll love it. And the TV and the media will 1267 01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,240 all come on board and be like, OK, yeah, great, great tennis is 1268 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,480 great tennis. Let's get it so. 1269 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,480 I mean, who doesn't love a good foursome at the end of the day? 1270 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,200 Honestly. Like we shouldn't have to sell 1271 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:14,680 this like it sells itself. It's 2025 people. 1272 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,120 I know what y'all are doing out there. 1273 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,560 We love a group. We love a group. 1274 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,160 OK, that's cross court. I feel better already. 1275 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,560 I feel in some ways I just went to confession, even though I'm 1276 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,320 not Catholic, I'm a Buddhist, but I just confessed my sins and 1277 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:33,920 I am now going to do some Hail Marys on my knees as I watch 1278 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:38,840 Andrea Vavasori highlights. So that is our show. 1279 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,640 Matthew Coleman, it is so great to see you. 1280 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,040 I love it when you get your mouth on my mic. 1281 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,520 Did you have fun? I did. 1282 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:50,760 I always love airing my grievances with you. 1283 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,280 Love it. Air your dirty laundry, get a 1284 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:55,760 thong, whatever. Stinks. 1285 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,240 Yeah, thanks. I cannot wait to have you on 1286 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,000 again, which is going to be in just a few weeks when we are 1287 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,480 going to recap the open. We're going to look at all of 1288 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:09,560 our predictions and see how correct we are because I am sure 1289 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,080 we are spot on as always. Until then, this court has 1290 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,920 adjourned. Everybody enjoy the open, watch 1291 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,640 some double s and we'll be back with you in just a few weeks. 1292 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,000 Thanks, everybody. Bye.