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Hey everyone. 
Welcome to the latest episode of

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ballboys. 
We are the queer podcast, you've

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been looking for. 
We're like if Michelangelo made 

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a podcast instead of sculpting 
David, where iconic where we 

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find and we are all about butts 
on this episode, we are bloated 

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and we both need naps because 
the Italian Open just wrapped up

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and boy, are our mouths tired. 
We are breaking down all the top

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stories for you. 
And we're bringing you a new 

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game. 
Rude. 

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Rune, rublev or RuPaul. 
You'll see more about that later

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in the show. 
And as always, my name is Paul 

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monk home and I'm here with the 
best ball boy in the business 

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after Michelle Visage. 
Billy Hanson. 

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Hey Billy. 
How's it going? 

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Hey Paul it's going it's going 
really well. 

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Yeah. 
What's going on? 

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Have you been ill? 
I was down. 

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I was down for a week a couple 
weeks and I was like what is it?

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Is it the warn you Praying the 
war on trans rights, the writers

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strike and then I realized it 
was that haircut. 

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You look so much better. 
I wish everyone could see you, 

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but even I bet you even sound 
better on the podcast. 

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You use the hair is great. 
I went I cheated on my my barber

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and went to a different Barber 
ichiran, vibora yes, but was 

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actually lost the Italian. 
Open both Barbara krejci Cuba 

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and Barbara Street Sable Yeah, 
all of them, the Barbara's of 

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Seville. 
But it's interesting though, 

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once I made the choice to 
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people had been like, oh, it's 
ya know like I think is kind of 

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cool like you got this but once 
I made the choice to correct. 

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Everyone was like oh thank God. 
Yeah. 

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Like everyone was like. 
Yeah. 

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That's the move. 
Yes. 

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But you wonder what people 
aren't telling you? 

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Well, it's true. 
Well, I love that this. 

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God, cast is turning into a 
journey of self-discovery for 

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you. 
Like you're figuring out your 

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hairstyles, you are dedicated to
practicing the massage arts and,

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you know, listeners. 
We have we have sort of gone 

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back to square one with massages
over here at ball, boys, and 

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Billy is focusing. 
Just on the feet. 

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That's the only place that he's 
allowed right now and honestly 

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has not gotten better yet, but 
I'm I'm really happy that the 

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haircut was fixed and now, maybe
we can go down the line to 

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massaging. 
Come on. 

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On I thought you said that I did
pretty well with the foot 

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massage. 
No, whenever you get mad, you 

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squeeze my foot. 
Like, you're trying to tell me 

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that you're mad. 
I'm gonna let you massage me 

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this entire podcast, if you want
to, but I'm going to give you 

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Frank feedback because that's 
what I do. 

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My first name should have been 
Frank. 

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We are going to focus most of 
this show on the Italian Open 

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and one of my favorite cities in
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Roma, roma, roma roma such a 
Beautiful city, amazing culture,

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honestly. 
I don't know how they make 

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pasta. 
Taste that good. 

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I play those are nudes like I've
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Have you been to Rome? 
I have, it's been a, it's been a

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minute. 
I haven't been, you know, since 

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I realized certain things about 
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So I haven't been since I could 
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really be truthful to my, I 
can't imagine what you're 

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talking about. 
What do you mean? 

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I'm just saying, I haven't been,
I'm going to be honest. 

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I know I'm barely in. 
Adult. 

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But apparently I have not been 
to Rome as an adult. 

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You understand what I'm saying? 
I've only been to Rome. 

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I've only been once and it was, 
I was a teenager. 

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Yeah, but it's great. 
Well, it's it is, the pasta is 

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great there as a teen and it's 
great there as an adult. 

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Yeah, I can tell you haven't 
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you don't eat carbs. 
I on the other hand, I'm a 

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Fearless Eater of nudes and so 
if you put some noodles in front

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of me we go again. 
I'm out. 

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Let's talk about Rome. 
Let's do it. 

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I mean let's let's just start 
with the SRI computer. 

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Billy. 
Yeah. 

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What's your shreeka meter for 
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really just been Rome and it may
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have to there. 
There are some props involved, 

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okay? 
Yeah, you know, I just feel like

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I've been waiting around, you 
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weeks, it's been, I've been 
drenched and I haven't really 

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enjoyed it to be honest. 
Yeah, you know why? 

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I've never heard you gargle like
that, like usually just swallow 

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it? 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So you're fighting it. 
Yeah. 

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What so tell me what? 
Well, it cut it. 

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Kept coming and coming and 
coming and coming every day 

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every day. 
You know, every much. 

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Yeah, yeah, every sing, I was 
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affected by rain for the entire 
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tournament. 
I watched every day and I never 

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once didn't see people look like
they were absolutely miserable 

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in the stands covered in 
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Freezing. 
Yeah, I hear you. 

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Yeah, I guess it was tough. 
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little bit of sunshine at the 
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bit of like a just because 
Medvedev was pretty Charming. 

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His dance. 
His dance was great. 

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I loved everything that he's 
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he is won the tournament, but 
I'm so happy that he did, it's 

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who would have thought. 
Who would have thunk it? 

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What's your shrieking M? 
So much for your mother? 

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It's very similar. 
I was not going to go. 

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What are you also going to 
gurgle? 

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Well, how do mine was just gonna
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I think your microphone has a 
setting that cancels out that 

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particular noise flatulence. 
Yeah. 

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Wow. 
Okay completely. 

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Yeah. 
Didn't come across their? 

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Do you hear about to try it one 
more time? 

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Do you hear Hmm, you have to 
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mic. 
No. 

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Oh, so interesting. 
There's an anti flatulence 

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setting I think on, on our, 
which is not on-brand for the 

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ball boys. 
Well, in also feel very 

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unamerican, where's my right to 
flatulate? 

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Yeah, well so so I will describe
my shriek, which was an 

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exhausted. 
Well, actual Aunt, XU dragging 

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through the mud, it's funny. 
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Walk by these courts and I've 
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go there. 
And this, this instance of the 

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Italian Open just was really 
rough mostly because of the 

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weather honestly makes me 
wonder, like, have like all the 

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tournaments that I've been 
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freezing, you know, Madrid with 
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Germany. 
People were fully like in parkas

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still even in Monte Carlo, 
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Do they not have global warming 
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I thought, that, that was 
Global, you know, it's always 

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been a little dicey, this clay 
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season. 
It's always moved by sea. 

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But this year, it's been, 
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And the Italian Open was 
relentless wetness. 

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Yeah. 
Now, which is also your screen 

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name on Grindr. 
I think they had a character 

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limit so it's just Relentless 
wet like that. 

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There were no, he's no movie 
Witness, but it's wetness and 

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vowels are people think it's 
different like oh I want to see 

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that old movie from the 80s, 
about a woman who hides in the 

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Amish community called witness 
and instead they get Billy's, 

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Grindr profile WT and SSS. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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There's also a great movie by 
the way. 

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Yeah, anyone has not see it. 
Harrison Ford. 

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Mmm. 
He plays a lawyer. 

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Who dresses as an Amish person 
to protect this witness and 

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honestly Harrison Ford in the 
80s, That was my Tommy, Paul 

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like he is just babe town. 
I hope they reboot it as a, as a

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limited series just like they 
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which is my other, my more 
risque grinder, user, you know, 

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screen name which is what is the
TF TL TT, ER, whatever the will 

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see, one is telling me last time
but like don't get cocky, okay, 

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okay fine. 
But the good thing, so the good 

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thing at the very least they do 
have a roof coming in 2026. 

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I mean, I think most tournaments
just need to realize they need 

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roofs, which I don't know if 
that's very provocative to say 

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but I a roof, a roof is 
expensive, a roof is an 

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architectural feat. 
A roof request requires planning

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again. 
Historically these tournaments 

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are used to one two, maybe three
really moist days. 

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Yeah but not a moist two weeks. 
Stop. 

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A third of your screen name some
ways, two weeks. 

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Mmm, it's funny overall Rome. 
It really felt like a bit of a 

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Time. 
Warp. 

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Like, we're going back to the 
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electronic lines, calling for 
some reason, they still have 

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linesman and blatant gender 
inequality. 

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Spoiler alert anyone who doesn't
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Open is one of the few big 
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women play and they do not have 
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And it's not equal paid by a 
little, its unequal pay by more 

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than 50%. 
So the winner of the women's 

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tournament gets less than half 
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tournament gets and it is it is 
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it's something that everyone's 
talking about. 

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I don't think that there's 
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that's pretty ridiculous and And
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you choose to be on that side of
this argument at in 2023? 

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Well, you've have a limited 
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the roof or pay the woman more. 
You're making me choose between 

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a roof and a woman. 
What's the difference? 

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One keeps you dry. 
And the other is a roof. 

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No, it's absolutely. 
It is unacceptable. 

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Yeah, and it makes me miss the 
models. 

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Honestly, at least in Madrid, it
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were made. 
And also not to not to harp on 

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the models too much because they
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last episode. 
But like these ball kids after 

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those models the bulkheads in 
Roma's, like, girl, no. 

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I missed the models. 
I want to bring the models back.

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Yeah. 
Well as you know, I think the 

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model should should be on tour. 
Absolutely. 

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Well, I mean, so, should we talk
about the damn tournament? 

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Like who won our duel? 
Should we do our Winner's Circle

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segment I guess so, yeah, we're 
here. 

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Why not right? 
Well, why don't you lead us with

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the with the men's draw until 
them with the Menzies? 

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It was it was an interesting, 
weird tournament and it was it 

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was a tournament where so 
obviously, A lot of these 

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Masters 1000 tournaments leading
up to the French Open and Roland

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Garros which so apparently they 
like to be called Roland Garros,

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not the French Open. 
So I'm going to try and say just

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Roland Garros from now on. 
So that's it. 

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It's a great sort of Harbinger 
for what's to come. 

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But you look at these three 
tournaments and especially the 

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room, the Italian Open. 
So thinking about the Siamese, 

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no alcaraz, no joke of it. 
Which they both lose, and it's 

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not like, oh, they pulled out, 
or are they just lost? 

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It was a noteworthy result also 
for the finals because the first

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time in 18 years, we didn't have
Nadal or joke, eviction, the 

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final which I mean, 18 years, 
that is that's unheard of. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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And then you think what? 
The winners? 

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So Medvedev who. 
Yeah. 

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What you were saying? 
Before his cute little dance 

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love him. 
His beard is kind of adorable. 

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He's looks like Rasputin and but
Wild. 

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This was his first clay title so
he won the Italian Open first 

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title. 
Only his second title match 

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ever. 
He lost one like a 500 

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tournament for five years ago. 
Also this is the first year he's

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ever had any wins in the Italian
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the Italian Open and so now I'm 
kind of like does he have a shot

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at the French? 
You know. 

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I think he has a shot. 
I don't think he has a great 

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shot but I think he has a shot. 
I mean Mean, while get into our 

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predictions later, but I don't 
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he's even in the top three, I 
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that but the way he dismantled 
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runet had had some some 
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and he's, he had a great time 
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He lost in the qualities of the 
Italian Open last year. 

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Like that's who ruin was a year 
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He is I think he's now ranked 6 
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are kind of the same age, and 
they've both like, they haven't 

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been like, oh, we need some time
to adjust to the men's jewelry. 

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Like, oh, they T think the ATP? 
They're like, mmm. 

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Yeah, this is what we were 
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already in the top five again, 
Runa. 

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I sorry, six, whatever caused 
it. 

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No, but you're right and I love 
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Generations that have come 
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asking, hey, Hey, do you mind if
we win some tournaments and I'll

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present Rooney like oh, those 
are mine. 

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Yeah, that's mine. 
I'm going to take it and we have

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complete games. 
Yeah, both of us and I know you 

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love it when people take it and 
they just take it to the Limit. 

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That's our, that's our 
anniversary song is Take it a 

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little bit by The Eagles, but we
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So that's why we sang off-key. 
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And yeah, I mean the semi finals
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So like you said, Medvedev had 
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of taunt CityPASS who danced 
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year. 
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or Miami. 
It was one of those and 

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Cincinnati. 
Yeah. 

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Like I said, it was at 
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love how Petty it is. - not 
going to like, let that go. 

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He's like, he's like, oh, I'm 
gonna file that away. 

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Way, for the next Time Warner, I
see you in Rome motherfucker and

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I'm Gonna Dance, The Chicken 
Dance from a wedding. 

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He's just like Bono and just did
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and, like, fucking loved it. 
I feel like I in some ways trust

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medvedev's Judgment of 
character. 

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I don't know why. 
I don't know why I trust his his

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Judgment of character. 
But the fact that he likes to 

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kind of taunt, both sissy pass 
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like they're just as, you know, 
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well, I mean, and not to get too
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stopped fighting at least on 
social media. 

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So it is ver of and Medvedev 
famously had that's packed over 

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social media. 
They did. 

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So they play it again here in 
the round of 16. 

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And, and they both said, oh no, 
no no. 

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It's all, it's all in the past. 
All in the past. 

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I do believe that for one second
but they are all like I love how

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because they used to say. 
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been sort of shaded as though 
the girls they don't like each 

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other too. 
It's Cutthroat. 

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No. 
The caddy tour is the ATP like 

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between medvedev's Vera of and 
since he passed they are, I'm 

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just waiting for someone to show
Girls someone and just like drop

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some pearls, you know, like 
plays in the clay, I don't know 

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like kill the grass like they're
they're just they are out for 

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each other. 
It's mean girls and I I'm 

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excited for Cady Heron. 
Oh sorry. 

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Katie. 
The women's tournament was 

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honestly, I felt like like a 
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international politics. 
We had Cooter matoba versus 

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County Nina in one semi Callen 
unit did not Shake could Hammer 

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tova's hand Hakuna Matata 
seemed. 

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Can you spell? 
By the way, could have matobo 

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please. 
Hey, you are are well, we go so 

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and and because one of them is 
Ukrainian one of those Russia 

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and just so everyone is clear. 
Yes, Cooter muratova is Russian.

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Kalinin is Ukrainian. 
And Callie Nina, what? 

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A run for her? 
What a tournament lot of 

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three-set wins. 
And she came up against Rebecca 

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and the final who everyone was 
thinking, you know, we're back 

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in a great game, but can't put 
it together on Clay, probably. 

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But apparently, she's ready. 
A for all surfaces although she 

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does have to finish a couple of 
her matches. 

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I mean, the the semi against 
Austin panko was a bit of a dud 

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and yeah, the final it started 
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Saturday, Well, but also, in the
quarter-final should be on Tech,

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pulled out, but, you know, that 
was factored in the third set. 

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You know, I think we're back and
I can claim that as a win. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, it was to all in the 

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third set but I find it 
interesting. 

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Is it a tactic of? 
Well you're not going to pay us 

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as much. 
So we're not going to finish the

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match. 
No, I wish I wish it were but 

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but no, I mean I it's an it was 
a choice. 

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For the tournament organizers 
to. 

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You know, put Kelly Nina and 
Rebecca on at literally 11 p.m. 

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on Saturday night. 
California has no Saturday Night

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Live. 
She couldn't finish the match 

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Kellen, you know? 
Partially I think. 

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Yes. 
She was injured and physically. 

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Absolutely beat up. 
I think there might have been an

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emotional component though too. 
And I'm not trying to, you know,

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imply the women are more 
emotional than men or anything 

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like that. 
I'm just Saying that hey, the 

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number of times you've cried on 
my shoulder watching Free Willy.

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Well, it's partially because 
you're performing the song to 

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your singing, the song live well
and you also thought it was a 

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different movie Free Willy. 
Yeah. 

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Have you seen my childhood 
right? 

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Isn't that the song that love to
perform? 

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I have seen your childhood 
because I slept in your sister's

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bed once That's where so much of
my childhood to place. 

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All the dolls were named. 
Bill, it was cute. 

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Yes, Ocala Nina can't finish the
match. 

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People are pissed, they were 
booing the tournament organizers

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during the trophy ceremony even 
though they had Valentina, the 

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hotel manager from White Lotus, 
putting on the trophy ceremony, 

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I you'd think that that would 
have kind of assuaged any 

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complaints but know that 
presenter was she was so chic. 

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I loved her but even she didn't 
know what to do because they 

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were like, oh, let's have Reebok
another winner. 

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Speak first, let's have Calla 
Nina. 

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Who's bawling in the bathroom? 
Just like, you know, whenever 

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she comes out, she comes out. 
Let's be booed. 

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It was a mess and this is one of
the top, I would say, seven 

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eight tournaments on the tour 
for the year. 

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Like, we're talking one of the 
biggest finals of the year, and 

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What a dud. 
What a soggy dud of a final. 

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Why do you think Paul that they 
didn't have the women play on 

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Sunday? 
Well, I think there's a lot of 

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factors that go into that. 
So people might have bought 

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tickets on Saturday, explicitly 
with the intention of watching 

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them, as final, and maybe they 
couldn't come back on Sunday. 

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Maybe those tickets are already 
sold out the, the players 

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themselves might have proved you
think that was you think that's 

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the that's your leading 
hypothesis. 

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It's you know I've got I've got 
many many okay. 

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Any? 
Okay? 

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Because I was also players like 
they were ready to go on 

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Saturday and so, okay. 
It's not like it was supposed to

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start at noon. 
It was supposed to start at 7 

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p.m. and it started out so it's 
not it's not there waiting all 

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day, so it was a little later 
than expected. 

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Yes. 
Absolutely. 

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And I don't think it was it was 
it was a situation that sucked 

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for everyone involved but maybe 
the players are like no we're 

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here, we're warmed up, you know,
we're psychologically prepared. 

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Well, maybe they were sounds 
like code. 

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Kalina was not and Catalina get 
rid of one of those police. 

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He's come on really see ya. 
And so maybe would have been 

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more of a hassle from to move to
Sunday II. 

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Don't know, I wasn't involved in
any of that, but I will tell you

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the entire ceremony did. 
Leave me speechless which also 

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felt very much like the women's 
double final from Madrid which 

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had no speeches and Moving the 
final to Sunday, you know, it 

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would have meant was Runa and 
Medvedev waiting around to 

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start, possibly waiting through 
some rain delays. 

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Possibly starting later. 
In the day, maybe being a little

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inconvenience. 
Was that a factor? 

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It's just amazing how the 
Italian Open managed to 

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absolutely botched. 
The women's draw. 

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Even after the Madrid 
controversy. 

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I mean, he say managed like, 
man. 

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I mean, it's just, it's in the 
language, its systemic. 

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I don't think that it was a 
statement about gender Equity or

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anything like that. 
I don't think they're like, oh, 

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we can't upset ruin and 
Medvedev. 

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I think that particularly met 
with that method of is such a 

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cool customer. 
He wouldn't give a fuck. 

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He's like, yeah, I'll play at 
midnight, I don't care. 

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Like, Watch Me dance, like it's 
fine. 

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I think that it I think that 
they probably saw Oh the 

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forecast for Sunday me like 
crap. 

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We might not even get the men's 
final done if it gets if it's as

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bad as you can because the the 
men's doubles final they had to 

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end the trophy ceremony early 
because they were literally 

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getting poured on and the guy 
the guy had the trophy and he 

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was being celebrated while they 
were pulling the the tarps out 

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and he almost got trapped under 
the tarps with his trophy, like,

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what a way to go. 
So I think that they knew that 

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wasn't gonna be great and they 
chose the what they thought was 

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the lesser of two evils. 
Evils but it sucked, it 

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absolutely is. 
But but let's pull the curtains 

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back a little bit and look at 
it, you know, let's ask the 

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fundamental question, I know 
you've always wondered, you've 

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always thought, let's put the 
women's Final on Sunday and the 

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men's on Saturday, like what the
fuck that's inherently sexist, 

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inherently sexist, and that is 
pretty much all what's called 

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Sunday. 
Right? 

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Not daughter day so we go. 
So are you saying that they 

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should switch it? 
And so when there's a men's and 

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women's tournament together, the
women should be on Sunday in the

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men should be on Saturday. 
Sure. 

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Absolutely. 
But does it really matter? 

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It's kind of like when you're 
given a towel bin and it's like,

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you get one and you get number 
two, like I'm not going back. 

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No, I don't want to, I want 
number one. 

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Like does it really matter? 
Well, the fact that the, the 

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men's final is always considered
to be sort of the culminate 

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event, right? 
Because it's the final match, 

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basically. 
I mean, that is a message that 

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is a societal systemic events. 
Problem. 

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Well, between the two finals at 
World, which one would you 

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rather end with the, the 
obviously kalinin up retiring? 

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You know, with no clothing 
sponsor maybe she has one. 

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Now, there is a with no clothing
on. 

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She she tried to pull out as 
well as she know. 

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She kept taking off various 
articles of clothing. 

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She played her ass off me. 
Yeah, her coach. 

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Her coach was like, hey, just 
take off. 

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Take off something else. 
Take off your top, take off your

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shirt and she still couldn't 
really manage things. 

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Gotta Give. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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Now she has no clothing sponsor 
which again, Callie Nina. 

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I summon our. 
How do you say her name? 

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Is Helena Helena. 
And I think Helena Kyle Indian 

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colony. 
No, okay. 

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Colin, you know. 
Okay, I'm just gonna say so not 

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exactly a household name because
I can't even say her name and 

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she's not exactly like she just 
broke into the top 30 for the 

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first. 
First time and she's in her late

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twenties. 
It's not like, oh, like there's 

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not a lot of sponsorship out 
there. 

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You know, people, people don't 
all have sponsorships, I think 

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her game is pretty remarkable 
she's ever shot and Is she in 

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her late 20s Paul? 
Well, she's 26. 

448
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:32,300
Like those boys. 
Those boys when grinder your 

449
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,000
think. 
They're like, 25 and you're 

450
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,300
like, I'm not into guys in early
2016. 

451
00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:44,500
If you are not going to be an 
up-and-comer, which is what my 

452
00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:52,000
Grinder says, right. 
And Kalina kalinina is 26, and 

453
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,400
she's in the pegula school. 
She's in the Pascagoula where? 

454
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:57,800
Yeah, she's going to peek in her
late twenties, which is great. 

455
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,200
She is a great player but is she
the most marketable player for a

456
00:27:02,208 --> 00:27:04,100
sponsor? 
I don't know. 

457
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,600
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463
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464
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,700
That make you hungry. 
No. 

465
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:56,100
So now it's time for the flops 
and the Bops where we talk about

466
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,900
the big winds and big mrs. 
Of the Italian Open which we've 

467
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:02,900
already talked about a little 
bit. 

468
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:06,000
But there's a few more specific 
stories that we want to 

469
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,500
highlight. 
So first, we'll start off with a

470
00:28:07,508 --> 00:28:10,600
Bop. 
So Billy what was a Bop? 

471
00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:14,100
It's kind of a bob flop flop, 
Bob, right. 

472
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:18,500
Hmm. 
But I I know you've been keeping

473
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:21,400
up with the new season of 
RuPaul's Drag Race. 

474
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,600
All Allstars J'adore model 
coconuts. 

475
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,800
You can put them in your mouth 
right now. 

476
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,300
Right now, right now. 
Right now. 

477
00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:33,700
We're dancing suit. 
Yes. 

478
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:40,000
If you have an All-Star season 
every year, eventually those 

479
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,400
All-Stars are going to feel 
maybe a little bit more like all

480
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,600
surrounds. 
Hmm. 

481
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,400
You know, like there are only so
many, oh, she should have want 

482
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,700
or oh, she had this. 
Amazing moment. 

483
00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:56,900
She made it to the finale, you 
know, this year, it does feel a 

484
00:28:56,900 --> 00:29:02,600
little bit like a RuPaul's 
scraps RuPaul's Drag Race 

485
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,500
RuPaul's Drag Race. 
Wait, the Italian Open felt like

486
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:10,000
that or this year on All Stars 
or both. 

487
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:13,300
Both. 
This is, this is my point. 

488
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,200
So, I do feel like, if the wga 
were like, oh, shoot. 

489
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,300
We've got to, like, put on a an 
All-Star tournament, but they do

490
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:24,400
it like, All the time and 
they're really searching in 

491
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,900
there reaching they could be 
like oh they're like who's left,

492
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,400
who's left? 
Oh we've got popular chain 

493
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,400
cover. 
She made the final randomly in 

494
00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:37,100
Roland Garros in 2019. 
We've got streets of oh she made

495
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:39,400
a grand slam semi we got split 
Alina. 

496
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:43,600
We've got a Ronnie, we've got 
Sophia Cannon, we got Taylor 

497
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,600
Townsend, it was and here's why 
it's a bop, it was fun to see 

498
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,200
those women back. 
It was fun to see them winning 

499
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,700
some Matches. 
It was fun to see them. 

500
00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:56,100
So in the conversation I mean we
can talk about each one 

501
00:29:56,100 --> 00:30:00,600
individually of course. 
But I personally preferred the 

502
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:06,200
wta's version of RuPaul's Drag 
's is over the current season of

503
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,500
RuPaul's Drag Race. 
Well, which one of them is mrs. 

504
00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:12,800
Kasha Davis. 
So I would say that probably the

505
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:18,500
pavlyuchenkova is mrs. 
Kasha Davis, I would say that 

506
00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:20,800
Sophia Kenan is Monica Beverly 
hillz. 

507
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:24,800
And I was really happy that 
Monica Beverly hillz came back 

508
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,000
and had a moment again Gone Too 
Soon. 

509
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:31,900
Just like Sophia Cannon was 
although there was that one day 

510
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,900
where Hannon took out Saba Lanka
and Townsend. 

511
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:41,700
Took out Aguila suddenly two of 
the top seeds out on the same 

512
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:45,700
day and I was like work. 
Like because I'm a Townsend fan 

513
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:48,600
and I like my gosh, I love her 
game. 

514
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,400
I don't know why she, why has 
she not had A breakthrough. 

515
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,200
Why is she not on All Stars? 
Free instead of All Stars 8. 

516
00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:58,900
Well why why? 
No your question is why hasn't 

517
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:04,300
she why didn't she win RuPaul? 
The Seas WTA, all of season 11. 

518
00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:07,500
Now she's back from stars like 
she's like a jinkx monsoon to 

519
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:13,100
know. 
She is unbelievably talented but

520
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,500
sometimes and I know you don't 
believe in luck but sometimes 

521
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:20,200
people just have a little bit of
a believe in luck. 

522
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:24,000
I thought maybe my own you're 
telling me when I was giving you

523
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,700
a massage earlier I was like, 
I'm lucky if I get out of here 

524
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:33,500
with a broken femur, guys. 
Gals, it's bizarre. 

525
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,400
I don't know. 
He's gonna if you subscribe. 

526
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,000
And once again, our promotion is
still running. 

527
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,900
If you like And subscribe the 
ball, boys, you get a free 

528
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:44,600
massage from billion. 
We're not talking about five or 

529
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,900
ten minutes. 
You get a 90 minute massage. 

530
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:51,500
And I Minutes in Heaven, which I
played once in high school, it 

531
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:54,500
was great. 
Hey Shauna, that's my daughter. 

532
00:31:57,100 --> 00:31:59,000
Another nap. 
Oh, baby, uh-huh. 

533
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,600
So, that's, that's my boss flop 
or do you have any boxer flops 

534
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,400
ball? 
Yeah, and I know that we're in 

535
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,900
complete agreement about this, 
so we don't need to argue. 

536
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,700
This is not a couples therapy 
but for me. 

537
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:17,900
Big flop, is that? 
So this is the first year that 

538
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:22,800
both Madrid and Rome have 
expanded their fields from 

539
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,900
think. 
It was 56. 296, adding Around 

540
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:32,500
and making what was a very 
challenging back-to-back of one 

541
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:34,700
week? 
In Madrid one we can roam into 

542
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:39,600
for week-long tournaments. 
Where if you are not ranked or 

543
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,600
seated, you've got to play for 
four weeks straight and if you 

544
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,200
are ranked, you still have to 
stay in that competitive mindset

545
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,700
for four weeks. 
Total. 

546
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,800
You're not really relaxing, 
you're not just training, you're

547
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,300
not just preparing. 
You are in that and it's like we

548
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:57,100
talked about the the sunshine 
double All of Indian Wells and 

549
00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:00,900
Miami and how Miami kind of 
suffered It suffers every year 

550
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:03,900
because it's like, fuck. 
I just one Indian Wells. 

551
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:06,900
Not gonna go to Miami to that 
swamp and like playing a 

552
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:09,300
football stadium. 
I feel like Rome was 

553
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:13,400
particularly unsatisfying for a 
lot of the top players this 

554
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,600
year. 
So we think what? 

555
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,900
All the tops, who lost, mmm. 
And I hate want to topple is 

556
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,900
because that's the bottoms job, 
but roll them. 

557
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Everyone is kind of taken out 
early because they're playing 

558
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,500
like this new But I got the 
sunshine double. 

559
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:32,200
I don't know if it's like, it's 
like this Battalion double or 

560
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,300
like, I don't know, like, the, 
the, the mud double because if 

561
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:39,400
it's apparently rains only in 
Europe but it was just, it 

562
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,400
wasn't the greatest tournament 
for Rome because it's so much 

563
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,900
longer now. 
Yeah. 

564
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:50,500
You know, again, I understand if
the the tournament organizers 

565
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:54,300
were like, hey like why does 
Indian Wells get 10 days? 

566
00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:56,800
Why does Miami get 10 days? 
Why don't we? 

567
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,600
You know, and then if Madrid 
gets it, obviously Rome has to 

568
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,600
get it right? 
Because because rum believes in 

569
00:34:01,608 --> 00:34:11,199
equality, right? 
And so I kind of and You know, 

570
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,500
normally with these tournaments 
even though the top 32 seeds 

571
00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:18,400
have first-round byes, they're 
normally some real exciting 

572
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,199
first round matches right from 
the players who happen to be 

573
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,199
unseated, like the teams and the
Murrays in the wild Broncos and 

574
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,600
the Sloane Stephens and the 
yeah. 

575
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:32,300
And ins, but there weren't 
there, weren't a whole lot of 

576
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:38,000
those like exciting first round 
matches and in the stands were 

577
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:41,500
woefully empty. 
I don't know. 

578
00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:45,199
I'm not sure the Italian people 
got the memo that this 

579
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,400
tournament started three days 
earlier than usual. 

580
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:50,000
Those tickets should have been 
20 euros. 

581
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000
They should be like come, come 
one, come. 

582
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,600
All. 
Let's make me to stick a pasta 

583
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,200
bar. 
Monde, Mamma Mia. 

584
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,800
Yeah, and coming to the Roma 
open. 

585
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:03,800
Yeah. 
What would you eat, too? 

586
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,800
You preferred last year when it 
was back to back. 

587
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,400
Yes, it's I will. 
It's been a tough double. 

588
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,800
It's always tough. 
It's a tough double and like, 

589
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,200
yes, we've been spoiled by Nadal
but it's just this turret like 

590
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,800
this. 
This this calendar is just so 

591
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,400
relentless by always like, when 
do these players have to go home

592
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,500
and just chill out for a weekend
like, you know, put on some 

593
00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:31,600
Enya, get a great massage, call 
up Billy for a massage. 

594
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,900
Like they don't get any of that.
It's just like, go, go, go, go. 

595
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:38,400
Go. 
Well, it's called money money. 

596
00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:43,700
No, I Yes and maybe if they keep
doing that they'll have enough 

597
00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:46,000
money to pay the men and women 
the same amount. 

598
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,100
But it's just like I mean there 
weren't like you said, there 

599
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:52,600
weren't a lot of great matches 
and there it was not full. 

600
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:57,500
And if there was a way, if they 
could make, I feel like the 

601
00:35:57,500 --> 00:36:00,300
beginning of the tournaments, a 
little flashier, a little 

602
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:02,400
splash, you're a little more 
exciting. 

603
00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:06,200
And really, you know, like you 
know, the US Open, someone sings

604
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:13,100
the The Anthem they get. 
You know, we just had 

605
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:15,600
Eurovision. 
And so where's the Italian 

606
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,300
Eurovision participant? 
Who can then go and be like 

607
00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:20,900
work. 
I'm going to put on a show. 

608
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,700
Exactly. 
Yeah I just think that they they

609
00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:28,200
got these extra days and they 
didn't treat them with the care 

610
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:30,900
and the enthusiasm that they 
should have. 

611
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,000
But I do have to say one thing 
that really did stand out in 

612
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,000
both Madrid and Rome was just 
the hardcore. 

613
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Nationalism, if you were Italian
at the Italian Open Open you 

614
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,200
played to a packed house and 
they were they were like hey Mom

615
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,000
they were there. 
They were like not I mean when 

616
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,000
Murray played Fabio fognini and 
he got a bad call that cost him 

617
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,900
a game. 
The Italian fans like they were 

618
00:36:55,900 --> 00:36:59,100
like throwing Tomatoes at him. 
It was like Marie was in 

619
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:02,200
trouble, the rest of the match 
and he was right but the 

620
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,700
Italians do not mess with an 
Italian on Italian soil know and

621
00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:10,900
and frankly the Spanish don't 
mess with a Spaniard on. 

622
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:13,300
Spanish soil. 
Yeah. 

623
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,600
Alright, so now let's talk about
our outfits and Outburst. 

624
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,700
So now we're getting to the real
important stuff about any 

625
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:36,400
tournament. 
The Tiff's, the spats we talked 

626
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,400
a little bit about Medvedev 
already giving it giving the 

627
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,000
business to CityPASS, but there 
was more, there was more drama. 

628
00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:47,600
There was a lot of on cordon 
off. 

629
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,100
Cork Shenanigans going on at the
Italian Open and the first one 

630
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,700
is, Is Cam Nori gunning down 
Djokovic. 

631
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,500
Net to net you know Djokovic 
tossed up a lob. 

632
00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:05,900
They're both at the net 
basically and Nori had the 

633
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:09,000
entire court open granted. 
He was looking up and also we 

634
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,100
know Nori's form, his form is 
unconventional to say, the very 

635
00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:15,300
least. 
It's one of those situations 

636
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:20,300
where it's like, oh, you can 
have this technique and make it 

637
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:22,700
into the top 10, it's kind of a 
star. 

638
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:25,900
Shang, it really is and I'm a 
big fan. 

639
00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:30,700
Just wanted to get that goddamn 
overhead into the court true and

640
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:34,400
he became is aiming for Novak 
well, so he got into the court 

641
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:37,400
by hitting, no Back Square on 
the leg with it. 

642
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:45,000
And Novak gave him a look. 
It was a, he was pissed and so I

643
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,700
know I've really kept my 
feelings about Novak kind of 

644
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:50,200
close to the chest as they say, 
piece of shit. 

645
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,900
But I'm not a big fan. 
I'm not a big fan of the joker. 

646
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:57,900
I'm you know it's just it's how 
it is and I'm sorry that's just 

647
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,400
like I'm not a huge fan of 
Holger and then when he beat 

648
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,800
Djokovic I was like I really 
found my Danish roots and I was 

649
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,900
so excited but even that was a 
cheap shot and I find Nori 

650
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,700
charming and so many situations 
but I found I thought it was a 

651
00:39:13,707 --> 00:39:16,900
cheap shot joke about like if 
anything is going to make joke 

652
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:19,200
of it's more of a sympathetic 
character and I don't want 

653
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,800
people loving him. 
So Don't hit him with the ball. 

654
00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:27,300
I honestly think first of all 
it's an absolutely legit play 

655
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:31,800
and oh yeah you know an overhead
you don't need to aim for the 

656
00:39:31,808 --> 00:39:35,300
lines you know get it down the 
middle of the Court like Nori 

657
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:38,300
played that point fully 
legitimately. 

658
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:41,500
I really don't think he was like
oh yeah and I want to like you 

659
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:46,900
know rile up Novak Novak made a 
dramatic because no but Novak 

660
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:54,000
was he was Howdy he was easily. 
Set off this entire tournament 

661
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,200
and I feel like that's his 
that's his Mo for the rest of 

662
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,400
his career because he feels like
he's never gotten as much love 

663
00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:05,800
as Nadal and Federer and so he's
pissed. 

664
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:10,400
And he's going, you know, going 
to make it known, he was yeah 

665
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,800
and and getting hit with like 
that sharp object, probably 

666
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:15,800
reminded him of a vaccine 
needle. 

667
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:22,700
And he's just like, no, no, um, 
a few other quick outfits and 

668
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:25,600
Outburst. 
It was adorable again, we're 

669
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,600
talking about the Italian fans, 
love the Italian. 

670
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,400
So apparently, the gingers of 
the gingers, actually, I don't 

671
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,500
know if this is, if this is 
politically politically, correct

672
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:37,600
or even allowed. 
But for Yannick Center, who is 

673
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,300
an Italian. 
But very fair complexed talion 

674
00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:44,400
with red hair, he had fans show 
up. 

675
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,200
Dressed is as carrots. 
And it was funny and cute and 

676
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,900
weird. 
But there's also, you know, 

677
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:54,400
running of Anne of Green Gables.
As I'm sure we all grew up as a 

678
00:40:54,408 --> 00:40:57,200
little gay boys watching. 
Anna Green Gables on PBS in the 

679
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,400
80s. 
But Gilbert Blythe called her 

680
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,700
carrots and pulled her hair and 
she smashed her chalkboard over 

681
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:05,600
his head. 
And that's how they first fell 

682
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,900
in love. 
I don't know if you can wear 

683
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:10,100
carrot costume to a gingers 
game. 

684
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,400
I don't know if I'm allowed to 
say ginger but it was, it was 

685
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,200
cute. 
Yeah, yeah. 

686
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,200
Shall we get into our game? 
Yes. 

687
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:22,200
Oh my God, I have been wanting 
to play this with you for so 

688
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:29,100
long and in honor of what is in 
arguably, the greatest All Stars

689
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:35,000
season ever in Drag Race 
history, Allstars 8, which just 

690
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,400
started last week. 
We are going to play rublev. 

691
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,500
Rude Runa or RuPaul because 
right now. 

692
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,500
Oh, in the top seven. 
We've got rublev at number 7, 

693
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:54,000
we've got Rune at number 6. 
We've got rude at number 4. 

694
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,400
Somehow, we're probably not a 
few weeks, and then we've got 

695
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,500
the mother of them all. 
He got to the same. 

696
00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:03,900
He's at the Italian. 
Open rublev one Monte Carlo 

697
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,700
Monte Carlo, right? 
Yeah, I'll get around. 

698
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:08,500
I mean, these are some relevant 
players. 

699
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:10,600
This is no time to play this 
game. 

700
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:13,800
Yeah, and they've got the same 
name is RuPaul. 

701
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:19,000
I'm going to quiz Billy with 
either a quote or a fact or 

702
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,700
something. 
And you've got to tell me, was 

703
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:28,500
it rublev, rude, Runa or RuPaul 
of those for which uses the word

704
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:30,600
pussy? 
To describe their peers. 

705
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:40,600
Oh okay, I'm going to say Lev 
final answer. 

706
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:44,200
RuPaul. 
Is that your final answer? 

707
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:49,200
Yes, you are. 
Ruined. 

708
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:55,200
It's Holger Rune. 
Who did, who did he 

709
00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:59,400
characterized as a post a few 
years ago. 

710
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:08,000
He also was using the F slur. 
Yeah, on the court speaking. 

711
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,400
Fame whore. 
Fame whore, yes, fettuccine. 

712
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:19,500
The fettuccine word fettuccine 
show and he was hurrying ringing

713
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:24,000
his opponent and And also called
him a pussy. 

714
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,500
He said, oh, that's pussy. 
That's a pussy shot. 

715
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,000
And and then he, and then he 
apologized later and said, oh 

716
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,400
no, I was talking about myself 
to myself for my, you know, 

717
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,800
Bunch of bull, which I mean, 
three years later, four years 

718
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,700
later. 
He's still kind of acts like 

719
00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:43,700
that. 
But he doesn't say, I don't, he 

720
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:48,600
is not recently called, are you 
saying that RuPaul has not said,

721
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,600
she's taken a pussy shot at 
someone. 

722
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:53,700
She has said, you better step 
your pussy up, right? 

723
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:56,100
Which is not called them a 
pussy, okay? 

724
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,400
So that is 111 wrong. 
But you know what, how do I win 

725
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,700
this game? 
You've got to get out of five. 

726
00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:08,100
You've got to go Three correct. 
Jesus. 

727
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,100
Okay, okay, I'm ready. 
All right. 

728
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:18,500
Who said, mmm, I have a 
mentality that says everything 

729
00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:21,600
will work out in the end and if 
it's not working out, it's not 

730
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,500
the end. 
RuPaul. 

731
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:27,400
Yes. 
Yeah. 

732
00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:33,300
We all know that that Fame whore
is always spouting self-help 

733
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:36,600
that she read and on the 
bathroom stall when she and 

734
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:42,300
Michelle Visage were at the 
Limelight in you know, 1849 when

735
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:46,800
they first moved here but yeah 
she she is very much what 

736
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,600
positivity and everybody say 
love. 

737
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:54,500
So listeners everybody say love?
Love which also means zero. 

738
00:44:55,100 --> 00:45:00,000
So when she's saying that she's 
talking about tennis, okay, you 

739
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,300
have one out of two which among 
those four has won a 

740
00:45:04,308 --> 00:45:07,000
Congeniality award from their 
peers. 

741
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,500
I'm vacillating between rude and
rublev. 

742
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,000
And I think I'm going to go 
with. 

743
00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:20,500
Just because it's a little less 
expected. 

744
00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:24,700
I'm going to go with rublev mmm.
You're so close. 

745
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,600
That was rude. 
Best hair on tour. 

746
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,600
But are you sure? 
If I don't know he won this 

747
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,300
Stefan edberg, sportsmanship 
Award of the year. 

748
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:42,700
So he was and this is this is 
after Federer basically won it 

749
00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:46,500
for 300 years in a row. 
And he retired in there like 

750
00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:47,900
they almost thought about 
changing Aging the rules or 

751
00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:51,200
maybe Federer can still win it, 
but they decided no and so 

752
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,300
Casper. 
Rude, want it? 

753
00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:56,100
Because he is such a nice guy. 
Do I get half a point because I 

754
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:59,500
almost said rublev, I mean he 
said Rue. 

755
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:03,900
Yes you have a point okay you 
have one point five out of three

756
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:06,900
correct so you can still win 
this. 

757
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,900
Yes I believe in you next 
question. 

758
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:17,200
Next question. 
Which of these four icons? 

759
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,200
It's lips people off when they 
mistake them for someone else. 

760
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,200
Oh, so one rublev. 
Rude. 

761
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,300
Runa or RuPaul? 
Flip someone off. 

762
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:30,000
When they mistake them for 
someone else. 

763
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,200
Yes. 
We're going to go with roubloff.

764
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:39,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Yes. 

765
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,900
He gets mistaken for shapovalov.
He gets mistaken. 

766
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,000
Basically, for anyone who looks 
kind of like a 1970s pop star, 

767
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,400
who wears a lot of jewelry has 
that shaggy hair. 

768
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:53,500
You're saying rublev. 
Rude loves hair's. 

769
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:57,400
Not too long for you. 
Now it's perfect really. 

770
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,900
If that length. 
Yeah, but more importantly you 

771
00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:06,400
now have two and a half out of 
four stars so you need half or 

772
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,700
more to win the game. 
Okay. 

773
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,300
Okay. 
The last one their mother has 

774
00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:19,400
one mother of the year. 
Their mother has one mother of 

775
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:24,800
the year, okay? 
Like a drag mom, I mean, if it's

776
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,200
not Runa, it should be. 
Now imagine it's more in the 

777
00:47:29,207 --> 00:47:33,900
context of like mother. 
And so like, I have a drag mom 

778
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:38,200
who kind of acts as my coach 
RuPaul. 

779
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,000
Has a drag mom, they all have 
dragged mom's even RuPaul. 

780
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,200
You think RuPaul was like even 
just popped out of the Garden of

781
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,400
Eden. 
We like Polly was RuPaul's Drag 

782
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,000
mom, you know, I looked for it 
and I'm not going to tell you 

783
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,100
that until you answer this 
question, but RuPaul Is your 

784
00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:57,400
answer? 
Yes. 

785
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,800
Is it Runa? 
No, it's is rublev. 

786
00:48:04,700 --> 00:48:09,600
Yes. 
But we're being your third out 

787
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:16,000
of four possible answers. 
You only get .25 of a point 

788
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:19,800
which leaves you with two point 
seven, five points out of five 

789
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:24,200
which means you are point to 
Five Points. 

790
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,800
Shy of being able to give me 
another foot massage. 

791
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:33,100
No one is more upset about this 
than holger's Mom, but I'm 

792
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:35,200
actually still kind of. 
I understand, I know the answer 

793
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,100
to the question. 
That I missed. 

794
00:48:37,300 --> 00:48:42,000
So Andrei rublev his mother, one
mother of the year really 

795
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,600
leaning his coach, one coach of 
the year in 2020. 

796
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,700
He's coached by his mom rublev. 
Now has drag mother. 

797
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,600
I don't know why you're not 
understanding this. 

798
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,600
Rube loves mother mother one a 
mother of the year won this 

799
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,700
game. 
I think I won this game in your 

800
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:04,400
you're twisting things around 
because you don't want to Crown 

801
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,200
a winner. 
Okay, I'll give you one last 

802
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,500
shot. 
Okay. 

803
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,600
Who said you're so full of shit.
The toilets jealous. 

804
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,900
Oh, I'm going to say RuPaul. 
Fuck. 

805
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:20,800
Yes, we're going to massage 
town, baby. 

806
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:26,000
Yeah, I mean, Like she's not 
spouting self-help. 

807
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,700
She's a plumber. 
Sounds a lot like something rude

808
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:34,100
would say, but I could tell you 
were, you know, trying to get me

809
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:38,000
to To go there. 
Because when I put on the RuPaul

810
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,400
wig and lipstick, just now to 
give you that subtle hint. 

811
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,800
Hmm. 
I am mother, I love saying 

812
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,300
mother. 
I was at a concert last night. 

813
00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:50,900
I kept yelling mother everyone. 
If everyone is Mother now. 

814
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:55,000
So in gay lingo like a gay icon 
mother. 

815
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,000
I'm seeing Carly Rae Jepsen for 
Pride mother Jessica, where's 

816
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,600
gonna be their mother? 
Alright, so now we're going to 

817
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,800
close out the show with our 
final segment where we want to 

818
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,600
give a quick preview of Roland 
Garros. 

819
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:15,300
So the tear Buck to of Paris is 
coming up in just a week's time 

820
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,700
on the women's side. 
Let's talk with the woman first.

821
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:20,300
You know K it's pretty clear. 
We've got a big three. 

822
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,400
We've got SRI on Tech ribbeck, 
Inna Szabo Lenka. 

823
00:50:24,900 --> 00:50:26,900
Do we end do we want that big 
three? 

824
00:50:26,900 --> 00:50:30,300
Is that the big three we want? 
I don't know if we have any 

825
00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:33,500
control over that. 
I mean it's Is it a vote as a 

826
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:40,200
huge fan of tennis as a huge fan
of women's tennis, I can get 

827
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,500
excited about a lot and I 
respect the games of all through

828
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:47,500
those women. 
I don't know if I necessarily 

829
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:51,500
want to see a decade of those 
three specifically battling it 

830
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:59,800
out, but When you said a decade,
I got a chill and I, I can't 

831
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,000
know. 
You'll be in your 30s. 

832
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:08,100
You, I know you're gross. 
Yeah, I know. 

833
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:10,800
I completely agree. 
It's, it is nice. 

834
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,200
That they are consistently 
pretty consistently separating 

835
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,400
themselves from the pack. 
It's always gonna like the big 

836
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,600
tournaments. 
It's pretty much been one of 

837
00:51:20,607 --> 00:51:22,900
them winning it and usually 
another one of them in the 

838
00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:24,600
final. 
Yeah. 

839
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:31,700
And you know, Rebecca I know, I 
like oh, she's Maybe I can get 

840
00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:34,700
behind her because she's, you 
know, my emotionless kind of 

841
00:51:34,900 --> 00:51:39,200
robotic Queen, right? 
And then, I, now I'm seeing her 

842
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,800
week to week to week and 
wondering if it gets old. 

843
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,500
Yeah, but I also, I love that. 
Like, as she's being booed, 

844
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:48,400
she's still just like, she's 
perky. 

845
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,100
She's ready to go. 
She's ready to give her a word 

846
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:54,100
speed, like, You know, she does 
keep a great attitude. 

847
00:51:54,500 --> 00:51:56,000
No matter what's going on 
mobile. 

848
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:59,400
Yeah. 
As yeah. 

849
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:01,800
You know, motions. 
She don't love flap. 

850
00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:03,400
Yeah. 
Do you think he's gonna be 

851
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:04,800
ready, though? 
I'm a little worried that he's 

852
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,300
going to be injured and not 
really gonna be able to defend 

853
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:10,400
her her title. 
I think she's going to going to 

854
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,100
be ready ready? 
You think she's like hungry 

855
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:17,600
those three she's the best, clay
player, come on, oh, for sure. 

856
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:23,100
But She pulled out here, she 
lost two sub alenka at Madrid, 

857
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:28,100
more than of the three. 
She's the one who does things on

858
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:31,400
core, where my she leaves my 
jaw. 

859
00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:35,800
A gape. 
Hmm, it kind of in the same way.

860
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,700
Alcaraz least, leave me with 
mine. 

861
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,300
Even God. 
Okay. 

862
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:42,000
Yes. 
Yeah. 

863
00:52:42,700 --> 00:52:46,200
Well, on the men's side, you 
know, it's sad. 

864
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,200
Sad, sad news Nadal's out for 
the first time in 19 years. 

865
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,000
He's not playing and hit me 
hard. 

866
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,200
Yeah, we talked about last time,
like, I'm so scared, he's quiet 

867
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,000
quitting. 
Well, I don't know if he's gonna

868
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,200
make it. 
He talked about 2024. 

869
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:08,100
His last year it's strange 
though because like he can't be 

870
00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:12,700
that confident in 2024, if he 
can't play in 2023, aging 

871
00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:16,500
doesn't work in Reverse like it 
if he can't do it now, like 

872
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:19,400
trust me as someone who has aged
once or twice in his life. 

873
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,700
Like I'm not going to if I can't
do it this year. 

874
00:53:21,700 --> 00:53:23,300
I don't really think I'm gonna 
do it next year. 

875
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:26,800
Like a friend of mine went to a 
rave this weekend and he's like 

876
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,800
do you want to go to a rave? 
And I was like, I don't know how

877
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,300
to start answering that 
question. 

878
00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:33,600
I don't to go now Now I 
definitely don't want to go a 

879
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:38,900
year from now so Rafa I hope I 
hope he's coming back but yeah. 

880
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,500
It's frozen. 
Let's do some predictions. 

881
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,600
Okay? 
Dark Horse isn't some winners. 

882
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:50,400
So my pick to win is still 
alcaraz, you know, it really 

883
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,800
comes down to his health but I 
think alcaraz there's just, 

884
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,300
there's no denying him. 
Who's your pick to win on the 

885
00:53:57,300 --> 00:53:59,800
men's side? 
How crazy is my pick to win, 

886
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,500
two? 
I feel like even Novak at his 

887
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:06,900
best right now on Clay is still 
not quite at. 

888
00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:10,900
Alcatraz is level at his best on
clay and Everyone is kind of 

889
00:54:10,900 --> 00:54:14,000
circling around Medvedev 
surprisingly, as in the 

890
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,300
conversation, but I'll Krabs is 
my pick. 

891
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:21,200
Yeah, I mean, depends on the 
draw, but those for as like a 

892
00:54:21,207 --> 00:54:25,500
semi, I would be very excited 
about that and what a dark 

893
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:27,000
horses, whose your dark horse 
for the men. 

894
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,200
Um, it's got to be somewhat long
hair. 

895
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,300
Just to, you know, make a run 
and run in the tournament and it

896
00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:41,400
to, you know, annoy you. 
I'm going to say George George 

897
00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:45,800
interesting. 
Okay, I look, I love his game 

898
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:49,500
alone on hard court. 
My dark horse is davidovich, 

899
00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:51,900
Vicki, Jeana. 
I'm a big fan of his game. 

900
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,100
He has what it takes. 
He hasn't build a string it 

901
00:54:56,107 --> 00:54:59,200
together yet. 
It's clearly because of the 

902
00:54:59,207 --> 00:55:01,600
hair. 
And if he just, if he cuts that 

903
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,800
topknot, which you can call a 
top, not anymore, it's a high 

904
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,800
pony. 
He has like an Ariana Grande. 

905
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,500
It is so long on top that he 
could do like the Sasha Colby 

906
00:55:10,700 --> 00:55:13,900
hair whipping routine without a 
wig. 

907
00:55:14,300 --> 00:55:17,500
Well, let's switch to the women,
who's your pick for the women. 

908
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:20,200
As I said, all right, the 
ladies. 

909
00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:25,100
Yeah, I think eager is the best 
player on clay. 

910
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,500
Rebecca, De subasta Blanca, they
have a chance. 

911
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:35,300
Peugeot has a chance. 
I mean, let's not get a chance. 

912
00:55:35,300 --> 00:55:37,400
Let's not get ahead of art. 
Well, no, here's what I'm 

913
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,000
saying. 
Paul is, we can't have everyone 

914
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,600
say my name. 
We can't have a we can't have a 

915
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,500
short memory. 
We can't pretend like the WTA. 

916
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:51,200
Is this you know stable place 
that it's this place with the 

917
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,900
horses W taste like I went to 
Stables. 

918
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:56,700
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

919
00:55:56,900 --> 00:55:59,100
Wow. 
And wow, horse girl. 

920
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:05,800
Okay, I mean it was just the 
other day that Radu kanu was 

921
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,700
winning the US Open out of 
nowhere. 

922
00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:10,600
That crate, chica was winning 
the French Open out of nowhere. 

923
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:15,300
That austere, panko even was I 
mean we've had some concerns 

924
00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:18,800
more consistency but that's we 
can't go so far as to say that's

925
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,200
the new normal I hear you, I 
hear you. 

926
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,300
Yeah, I mean well, any any Dark 
Horses? 

927
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,100
Mine honestly is Taylor 
Townsend. 

928
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,100
Or doubles or not talking about 
it earlier. 

929
00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:34,900
She should be maybe even top ten
but definitely top 20. 

930
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,100
Like she has a top-20 game 
honestly. 

931
00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:40,100
Yeah. 
And she's starting to put it all

932
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:43,900
together. 
Mentally, and game-wise. 

933
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:47,300
And that went over pakula was 
was great. 

934
00:56:47,300 --> 00:56:50,600
She should have frankly, so good
gone deeper in the tournament, 

935
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,800
and I think this might be her 
moment just these next couple of

936
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,500
years. 
I think she's gonna she's going 

937
00:56:57,500 --> 00:57:01,500
to break into the top. 30 top 
20, have some real runs. 

938
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,400
I would love that. 
I honestly, I think it's the 

939
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,900
French Open is so unpredictable 
strictly for women. 

940
00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:12,200
I mean, it's been so predictable
for men. 

941
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:16,500
So for this year for women, 
honestly, it could be, I could 

942
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:17,900
see. 
Could you cover? 

943
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:20,800
I could see us to panco. 
I could see one of them coming 

944
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,600
Augusta panko. 
She is impressive in a lot of 

945
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,300
ways. 
Not just her fashion sense, 

946
00:57:27,300 --> 00:57:31,900
these days and I'm kind of 
excited to see her back on on 

947
00:57:31,900 --> 00:57:36,700
the Roland Garros clay. 
Yeah, you know I mean talk about

948
00:57:36,700 --> 00:57:41,600
them not having a plan B. 
No like like you know there's 

949
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:42,800
not going to the pharmacy for 
Plan B. 

950
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,600
I was She's possibly peaking at 
the right time. 

951
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,300
She's back in the conversation 
at the right time so we'll say 

952
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:51,800
can't wait to see what she 
wears. 

953
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,800
I know she's got she is a stunt 
Queen is like a laganja 

954
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,800
estranja. 
She is going to have a lurk and 

955
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,100
she's gonna be sickening. 
Is she going to do a reveal like

956
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,200
at the head of the second set? 
Like she's going to have her 

957
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,800
Reign and not not ahead of the 
sets like midpoint yeah he is. 

958
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,900
You can do a spin and it's gonna
be like rose petals. 

959
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:19,900
It's going to fucking wig under 
a wig. 

960
00:58:19,900 --> 00:58:22,400
She is going to be like, oh, 
this for the last five years has

961
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,100
been a wig idiots. 
Folks, that's our latest 

962
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:29,300
episode. 
It has been such a pleasure as 

963
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:32,000
always Billy, you've never 
looked better. 

964
00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:35,000
Thank you Paul. 
And that's really all that 

965
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,900
matters at the end of this. 
You've made it through podcast 

966
00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:38,400
and you look better than when we
started. 

967
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,700
So cheers to me. 
Yeah. 

968
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,400
But thank you so much everybody 
for For tuning in again. 

969
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,400
And this has been the latest 
episode of ball, boys, will be 

970
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,400
back early in the French Open 
and I can't wait to do it. 

971
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:53,700
Can't wait. 
Bye. 

972
00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:54,200
Y'all.