1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,840 It's time for let's get some ground strokes, baseline, get 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:10,680 some top spin that's LGBT. Have a listen. 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Make some noise with the ball boys. 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,240 Hey everybody, and welcome to a brand new season of The Ball 5 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:27,720 Boys. We are the tennis podcast that 6 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,000 puts the balls in ball drop. I'm your host, Paul Monkle. 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,720 I'm bringing you the insights, outbursts, giggles and wiggles 8 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,920 of the ATP and WTA tours. And happy 2026, everyone. 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,520 We're recording this on January 1st and thank God 2025 is over. 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,760 Listeners, do you have any New Year's resolutions? 11 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:52,360 Are we still making those or are we just happy that we survived 12 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,200 2025 both in the world and on tour? 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,680 If you just made it through the year, congratulations. 14 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,400 If you've spent the last seven days couch rotting like I have, 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,520 kudos. And if you don't ever want to 16 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,400 talk about 2025 again, Amen, sister. 17 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,880 But how are we all feeling about 2026? 18 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,440 I got to say, I'm feeling oddly optimistic. 19 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,400 Dare I say refreshed? Maybe even hopeful. 20 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:27,000 Might I be making 2026 my bitch? Possibly, and this might be the 21 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,000 heated rivalry effect, because that show has done a number on 22 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,440 me. It put me in my fields. 23 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,040 It may believe in love again. I might even get a boyfriend 24 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,880 this year. Seriously, love used to mean 25 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,400 nothing to me. But also, that's tennis folks. 26 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,480 And this is the vibe that we're bringing into the brand new 27 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,400 season. The ball boys, we've got a butt 28 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,960 load in store for you this year. We've got new balls, we've got 29 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,280 new segments, we've got new events, but we've got the same 30 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,640 old snark and a healthy addiction to puns. 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,560 And yes, we are going back to our regularly scheduled 32 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,600 programming of every two weeks as the tours are starting to 33 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,760 pick up steam. And on today's show, we are 34 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,720 breaking down the offseason, the end of year action and some 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,880 predictions and resolutions for the new year. 36 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:14,440 And I suppose at this point it's no surprise, but the offseason 37 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,040 had some pretty big surprises. Carlos Alcaraz has split from 38 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,080 his coach Juan Carlos Ferrero, and we're going to be breaking 39 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,000 down what that means for our very own heated rivalry between 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,240 Yannick and Carlos. Spoiler, it ain't good. 41 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,160 And we also had a battle of the sexes. 42 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,240 Oops, sorry, I mean battle of the sexes. 43 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:34,920 That finally answered the question, how low can an 44 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:38,000 exhibition go? And we're covering off our own 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,560 tennis resolutions. Plus, in classic ball boys 46 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,280 fashion, we're going to play a game where we match different 47 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,880 resolutions to different players. 48 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,960 Now to do all this, there's no one I'd rather kick off the new 49 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,080 year with than today's Co host. She's our very own lady ball 50 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,120 boy. She's the insanely talented 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,960 writer of Amazon's bestseller Erie Basin, a sports writer, a 52 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:02,760 former squash pro. All around Batty. 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,600 It's Ivy Pakoda. Hi Ivy, How are you? 54 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,640 I'm good. Paul, how are you doing? 55 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,240 I'm good. Happy New Year. 56 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,640 Happy New Year. How are you feeling about 2026? 57 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:16,800 Are you optimistic? I mean, it's going to be better 58 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,840 than 2025. So I guess I'm optimistic in 59 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,680 that regard, but you know, that's kind of a low bar. 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,160 Yeah, you know, I'm hopeful that I'm safe and saying it can't get 61 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,080 worse. Or am I just jinxing it all? 62 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,240 I hope. Not, I mean, I don't know. 63 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,360 I think it can't get worse, but who knows. 64 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,240 Yeah, I mean, you the things that we saw last year, I didn't, 65 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,920 I did not see some of them coming, but but I'm going to 66 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,760 hold on to the hope. I'm going to hold on to the 67 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,440 maybe naive optimism. Do you make New Year's 68 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,680 resolutions? I mean, not really. 69 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,360 I just feel like I'm making resolutions all year. 70 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,520 Like I'm going to be sitter, I'm going to eat better, I'm going 71 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,760 to write more, I'm going to drink less, I'm going to spend 72 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,400 less money on food. I'm constantly making 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,840 resolutions. Right. 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,800 I have a little bit of magical thinking though, where I'm like, 75 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,920 you know what? OK, this is that moment I'm 76 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,960 going to make clean break. Like this morning, I deleted 77 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,400 TikTok off my phone. Last night I went to bed early 78 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,920 and I was going to have a great night's sleep, and before I knew 79 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,440 it, I'd spent two hours watching some Clem family play stupid 80 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,240 games at their Indiana compound. Like what am I doing with my 81 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,160 life that might? Be. 82 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,520 Worth it. I mean it's the the dopamine hit 83 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,240 is real, but I don't know I don't have any resolutions right 84 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,480 now. I also feel like I'm kind of 85 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,640 like fully formed, like apex predator. 86 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,800 I'm like the Orca of loose Feliz, like I don't need to do 87 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:38,640 anything else. Yeah. 88 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,440 I mean, I would, I think like at this stage, I am who I am. 89 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,600 It's gonna change that. Big surprise, guys. 90 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,800 Oh yeah, I have a totally new holistic I. 91 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Play piano. Yeah. 92 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:51,000 No. Yeah. 93 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,320 OK, we got to talk heated rivalry right off the bat. 94 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,120 This show, it had a stranglehold on me since episode 3. 95 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,040 The 1st 2 episodes I was like, oh it's just kind of horny, 96 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,000 porny or whatever. I've never had a visceral 97 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,280 reaction in this show and I know you just binged it all. 98 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,120 What is your take? Yeah, you're absolutely right. 99 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,520 Episode 3 to the end, it was like intense and insane. 100 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,840 I can't get it out of my head, like it's some kind of weird 101 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:20,360 drug. Yeah, well, and and it's 102 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,120 everywhere, like you were saying, you were looking at 103 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,240 Instagram and it's like every other. 104 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,080 Oh my God, my entire feed is either I like, I don't know what 105 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,600 happened. I don't think I clicked on 106 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,760 anything, but like they know, they know that I need to see. 107 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,600 It's like he did rivalry live reactions. 108 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,160 He did rivalry live in We ho. He did the rival's lesbian bar 109 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,640 in Portland, you know, and then there's the two actors here. 110 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,440 They are doing this GQ shoot. Have you seen the puppets yet? 111 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,160 The scene where he's in the hospital bed telling Elia he 112 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,480 wants him to come to the cottage, but it's like it's like 113 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,720 a it's a puppy dog puppet and a shark puppet. 114 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:53,440 No, I haven't seen. That I'm sure I will. 115 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,680 It will now that I've said it to the into this mic, it will be on 116 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,200 all of our heat. Yeah, you know, ever. 117 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:00,960 I know a bunch of people who are like, well, I don't really need 118 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,040 to see that show. I get it. 119 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,160 Like, no, you need to see it. Like you don't get it. 120 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,040 It's not what you think. No, that's the whole thing. 121 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,600 It zigs when you think it's just zagging and it's like, oh, I've 122 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,040 never been just cracked open emotionally by a show like this. 123 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,240 Episode 5. Oh my God, Start to finish, 124 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,280 falling, start to finish. There wasn't. 125 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:24,680 I was like, I knew it was going to get me from when it started 126 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,200 that and it just like kept turning and Oh my God. 127 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,840 Episode 6 also. Oh yeah. 128 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,000 Yeah, I was thinking they would do something more tough or 129 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,480 whatever the finale and make it kind of like hard love or tough 130 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,840 love. But they didn't. 131 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:41,720 They landed like a total softball of an ending. 132 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,480 And I was like, wow, that's just what the world needed. 133 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,800 That's what I needed. I don't need some, like, weird 134 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,160 HBO, like, maybe they're not going to see each other ever 135 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,880 again because, you know, the world found out. 136 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,720 And I was like, just sweet. And oh, God, as we talked about 137 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,360 by a text yesterday, like, I actually don't want any more 138 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,480 seasons because that was sort of perfect. 139 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,320 And I know where to get into. Like, one of them wants to be 140 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,280 out in public with the relationship and the other 141 00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:09,320 doesn't. So it's going to be like 142 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,080 relationship drama and like the NHL isn't going to embrace it 143 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,560 and the endorsements and this and that and like a lot of just 144 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,920 like I've worried we're to go into like very cookie cutter 145 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,200 homophobia sports stuff, which the show is heretofore avoided. 146 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,800 Exactly. Like, yeah, we, we survived the 147 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,040 gay tragedy tropes of like, oh, well, someone's going to die, 148 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,440 they're going to break up, they're going to get beaten up 149 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,080 or gay bash. And it's just because, and I saw 150 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,800 this comment somewhere, it's like, because that it's the 151 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,160 romance genre and the romance genre, it works out. 152 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,040 Yeah, what? Who knew? 153 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,320 This is going to be a lesson for both of us. 154 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,240 You got it right. Like we all needed this. 155 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,880 Like, straight women love this show. 156 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,240 Oh my God. OK. 157 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,960 Can you represent all of straight women? 158 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,560 All of them right now? Why? 159 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,440 Like, what is the cause? At first I was like, is it 160 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,920 because is it hot to watch two guys get it on? 161 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,560 But also the emotional side. I mean, they're hot, Like 162 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,000 there's no denying that, especially Scott Hunter 163 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,560 Francois, I know he is so fine. It's it's insane. 164 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,640 Insane. Of that casting of the slightly 165 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,560 older, like, well, it's just it's chef's kiss. 166 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,560 I feel that there's so many cheesy love stories or like 167 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,520 tough love stories for women. And this is sort of what we 168 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,240 want, but we never get to see a show about it. 169 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,560 Like you see shitty Hallmark Christmas movies and like, 170 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,520 that's like what we get. I like, no, I'm an ex 171 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,480 professional athlete. I want, I mean, I'm going to 172 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,320 only speak for ex professional athlete women. 173 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,919 I want this. I want like, my unrequited love 174 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:39,799 sports story to like, come true, true. 175 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,040 I think a lot of women tend, you know, to feel sort of rejected 176 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,800 or ghosted. And right now there's so much 177 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,800 chatter online about like, dating and avoiding. 178 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,800 And I think that women feel that right now. 179 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,600 The dating scene is particularly hard. 180 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,200 So like, the romance of this is really appealing. 181 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,120 I feel like myself, like there's always some kind of barrier to 182 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,800 romance. You're not supposed to want to 183 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,880 be romantic because the minute you suggest that to a guy, he 184 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,480 runs for the hills, you know? And Elia is a little bit anti 185 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,480 romantic at first, but then he turns a fucking corner. 186 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,800 But I think it very much reflects like the female 187 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,200 experience in a certain way, minus the like having to hide 188 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,280 you're a same sex couple or whatever. 189 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:19,280 But I think. There's and all of the anal. 190 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:24,520 And all of the maybe, I mean all of the, I think, I'm sure 191 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,960 there's some anal in many heterosexual couples, just not 192 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,320 quite that much. Yeah, you should ask my Barber. 193 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,480 He's straight and he talks a lot about it. 194 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,960 Your Your Barber likes anal. He likes giving anal yes to 195 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,800 women. Yeah, yeah, I got that part OK. 196 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,960 Spell this out. I'm He's never going to let me 197 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,680 sit in his chair again. Did that come? 198 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,160 Up. I I'm a pretty personable 199 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,480 person. I don't know, it's just. 200 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,680 I mean me too, but like what? This is what guys talk about. 201 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:03,600 They talk about anal OK, but the thing about Heat referee is also 202 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,560 straight men are loving it because I don't know if you know 203 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:09,480 that hockey podcast Empty Netters, which I love as a name. 204 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,880 I love a pun. As we all know, it's three 205 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:12,840 straight guys. I. 206 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,680 Think, oh I watch reactions from that, don't worry. 207 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,800 It's live reactions and they're just like, they're locked in. 208 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,360 One of them is crying, they're cheering. 209 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,680 I think that this story gives universally what everyone has 210 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:30,640 kind of been made to feel too jaded to even say they want. 211 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,880 Yes, exactly. That's what I was saying about 212 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,880 women. Why they we're not allowed to 213 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,480 say that we want like we everyone's like you got to be 214 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,600 tough and you don't take no for an answer and you've got to 215 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,120 like, you know, be a like a stone cold bitch to get a guy 216 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,600 because then he'll run if you show emotion like this is 217 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,160 bullshit, man. We're in this like he's just not 218 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,360 that into you. Let them weird post emotional 219 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,960 post trying post putting yourself out there. 220 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,520 But I we all want. I mean I swear to God I feel 221 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,920 like the Lexapro dosage in West Hollywood has all been lowered. 222 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,800 Like everyone is happy. People are just legitimately 223 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,760 walking around. Like I have hope. 224 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,240 Yeah, and I really feel that if I have to watch a season where 225 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,080 the relationship is tested, well, it might not be because 226 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,120 the all the books are in the romance genre. 227 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,400 They have to stay together. You know, I teach creative 228 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:19,600 writing. A lot of my students are write, 229 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,400 write romance. And I had to learn a bit about 230 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,440 the genre and like, it's, you know, there's no like, hold on 231 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,960 for Book 3 when they get back together. 232 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,080 There's no like Empire Strikes Back in the romance. 233 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,240 Right, there's closure. Dark ending, yeah. 234 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,280 I wouldn't mind and we were talking about this also, I 235 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,720 wouldn't mind maybe two more episodes, but I don't need I 236 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,040 don't need any more narrative like when when they that final 237 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:42,920 scene. I don't know if you did this 238 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,200 too, but on episode 6 when they're just driving off, I 239 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,120 watched to the very end because I I like the song. 240 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,480 I like the way they touched each other. 241 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,360 I like, it was just like, I was like, that's all we need. 242 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,320 They drove. Off, right. 243 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:58,080 I mean, it's like the show is going to have to be very 244 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,200 surprising to me at this point where they're like out in the 245 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,960 NFL or what those challenges are in the NHL. 246 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,240 Those challenges are like, like, I kind of can guess what that 247 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,200 is. It it's going to very easily get 248 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,000 very schmaltzy because like, look, not everyone in the NHL is 249 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,640 extremely accepting. So if they if, if we start 250 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,760 getting fed that narrative, it actually becomes a little 251 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,120 harmful. Yeah, I know. 252 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,880 I can't do that. It's like, no, no, no. 253 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:28,040 And also like I mean they're hot as fuck but we've seen them 254 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,640 fucking for like 6 episodes or whatever so like the surprise of 255 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,480 them fucking is not going to be. I love my kids upstairs 256 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:40,160 listening to this. He's burning all his Barber 257 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,400 likes anal like. She's got to learn. 258 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,760 She's got. To learn his Barb Paul's Barber, 259 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,080 let's be very clear, you know, But like, we've seen them 260 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,800 fucking, we've seen them blowing each other. 261 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,680 We've seen like all jerking off at each other. 262 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,360 Like the surprise element of that is gone. 263 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,560 Also, they've learned about their gay sexuality. 264 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,680 You know, Hollander had a big old eye opening experience about 265 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:06,720 what this shit was. So like, what is the steamy next 266 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,720 step? Well, that's the thing. 267 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,960 It's like, because, you know, every gay relationship ends up 268 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,880 being open. So it's just going to be like, 269 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,840 oh, Elia wants to keep it open, but like that, we don't need 270 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,960 that. I think the second book is about 271 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,840 Elia wanting to go public with a relationship and Shane doesn't. 272 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,480 Well, I mean, I'll watch it. I love it and I'm forever 273 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,240 grateful. And I will be re watching it 274 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,040 probably too often. I also need a little break 275 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:34,840 though. And we were all started. 276 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,160 It's like I'm saturated. Yeah, yeah. 277 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:40,720 OK, I'll tell you. In the height of my mania, my 278 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,040 friend Matt and I, Hey, Matt. We went to Dick's Sporting Goods 279 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,520 the other night just to go to the hockey section. 280 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,040 We were like, should we just go there? 281 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,000 And I have no idea why. I don't know if we were 282 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,960 expecting it to be the next gay bar. 283 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,080 No one was there like hot gay men. 284 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,480 Yeah, I was like, maybe we're all going to be going to the 285 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,240 Dick's Sporting Good Hockey store. 286 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,720 Sadly, there was nothing there. They had the smallest hockey 287 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,960 section, but the clerk that was working there, he's like, but I 288 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,160 feel like it's getting more popular. 289 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:09,760 More people are coming in and asking for it. 290 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,520 And I was like, that's those are my girls. 291 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,400 I am going to the Boy aquarium on January 12th. 292 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,400 Oh, through the Kings. Oh, OK, I'm. 293 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,200 Jealous. That's why I need to get my 294 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,520 Scott Hunter shirt before I go. Oh my God, yeah, It's it's that 295 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,880 is going to be such a party. It's going to be unlike their 296 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,800 last season's attendance. I'll, we'll just. 297 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,680 Say that I'm excited. To wrap this up, we are going to 298 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:41,760 play a game called Heated Rive Rally, which is it's a tennis 299 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,560 based game and no, we're not outing anybody. 300 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,880 We're not going to say who's gay and who's this, but I just have 301 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,640 that. Insider knowledge we're so. 302 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,360 Yeah, I know everyone is gay. I'm just not telling you all No, 303 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,920 I don't know anything and I don't care. 304 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:01,160 Outing people is so stupid. But I am starting to see the 305 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,320 world kind of like 15 years ago when everyone was starting to 306 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,200 see these Sex and the City characters of like, oh, you're 307 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,760 such a Carrie. You're such a Miranda. 308 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,560 You're such a Samantha. I'm starting to see it like, oh, 309 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,560 you're you're such a shame. You're such an Elia. 310 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,680 And so Ivy, I want us to pick out. 311 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,160 We're each going to pick out players that we think on the on 312 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:26,960 the ATP Tour or WTA Tour also like who is who is an Elia, who 313 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,480 is a Shane, who is a Scott and who is a Kip? 314 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,120 OK, so I'll give an example. Like I think that Carlos Alcaraz 315 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,520 is big Shane energy. OK. 316 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,680 And who is his Elia? Well, so we don't need to do the 317 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,400 narrative because I'm not going to be like, oh, these two people 318 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,400 are fucking. But I think obviously his Ilia 319 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,080 is Yannick. They have that that energy, that 320 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,680 dynamic. They've been chasing each other. 321 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,080 It's one of them each other. And they have a love for each 322 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,880 other that is pretty beautiful and authentic. 323 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,280 Because also Yannick Sinner operates a little bit like an 324 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:11,080 Ilia, a little more stoic, a little more like just angular. 325 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,840 So so those would be two picks for a Shane and Anelia. 326 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,280 Who do you Do you have any? Yeah, totally. 327 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:24,320 I I this is a bit retro, but I'm going to go with Nadal as a Elia 328 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,400 and Federer as Shane. Interesting. 329 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:33,000 Same thing, they have this rivalry, they couldn't exist in 330 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,200 the same way without each other. Obviously they're both 331 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,400 incredible tennis players on their own, but without each 332 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,320 other the story isn't actually complete or it's not the same. 333 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,200 I mean also people have been making this joke about Nadal and 334 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,760 Federer for years that they. Were like, oh, forever, yeah. 335 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,720 I was like taking a shower this morning or thinking about taking 336 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,560 a shower maybe, and it's hearsay. 337 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,320 And I was like, is that where she got the idea from? 338 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,520 The like the story, the rumors about Federer and Nadal? 339 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,720 I was like, she must. OK, so who is Djokovic if he was 340 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,520 one of them? Oh God, he's just too weird. 341 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,520 I think he's a Scott Hunter. I think he is like super driven, 342 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,599 a little like aggro, a little American Psycho ish in his 343 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:19,359 lifestyle. He's the but Hunter's so sweet. 344 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,480 Well, but it's underneath, like you got to get to that sweet 345 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,400 center. There's a hard shell on the 346 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,200 outside. Yeah, I guess with like the 347 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:29,440 superstition stuff too. Yes, gotta have that banana 348 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,640 smoothie every morning. Blueberry. 349 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,400 Blueberry with banana. That's the secret, yes. 350 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,360 Like, like what? What a revelation. 351 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:41,320 I know I was like, really girl? Oh, spirulina powder. 352 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:47,640 Yeah, I love arena Spirulina. I so I think that I was 353 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,640 struggling with Kip. I think that someone like a 354 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,560 demon hour is a Kip. Yeah, totally. 355 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,160 Or a rude. Yes, yes, like a little more, 356 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,000 not on the passive, but a little passive. 357 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,640 Innocent. A good boy. 358 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,120 A good boy. Yeah. 359 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,160 Yeah, Rude. Could also be a shame though. 360 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,720 Rude could be a shame. Tell me more. 361 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,360 He has a little bit of that like just cuz he's Nordic and 362 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:16,320 reserved, he sort of has a very reserved, sort of considered way 363 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,240 of talking that seems a little bit shame to me. 364 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,200 And I could see being like totally lovesick like. 365 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,160 Yes, and like, is he a bottom, you know? 366 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:28,600 Oh, for sure. I could see that. 367 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,400 Yeah, let's be honest. OK. 368 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,600 I was also thinking about Tommy Paul and Taylor Fritz. 369 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,520 Tommy Paul's totally a Scott Hunter. 370 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,240 Yes, he's got that all American energy that Scott Hunter has. 371 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,800 Yes, he's like Captain America. Yes, totally. 372 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:50,480 Yeah, but like also all time smoke show, just like the actor 373 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,520 sort. Of kind of the same kind of age, 374 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,360 I think. Yeah, like they're not the young 375 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:58,000 kids on the on the scene anymore, you know, like us. 376 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:02,120 We're we're the twinks. But yeah, I could say. 377 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,880 But then I was thinking Fritz, I was like, Fritz also kind of 378 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,000 gives me in some ways he gives me Ilia. 379 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,840 In some ways, he gives me Kip. I don't think he's fun enough to 380 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,200 be Elia. Yeah, yeah. 381 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,440 So maybe he's just a Kip. Yeah, he's just like, not my 382 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,800 favorite personality, so I don't want to put him in hated 383 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,960 rivalry. But everyone is one of them. 384 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,480 Which one are you? Oh, good question, Paul. 385 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:33,680 I didn't think about that. I think maybe Elia, because I'm 386 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,720 not, I like Shane's not very self confident and I feel like 387 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,440 I'm a little more self confident than that. 388 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,680 You are such an Elia like, OK, good. 389 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,160 Completely. Yeah, yeah. 390 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,800 I'm not a power bottom. No, you're a top and you know, 391 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,000 let's like, let's be. Like my dad's going to love, my 392 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,280 dad's going to love this episode. 393 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,000 Dad raised the top. My dad's a big listener, so. 394 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,960 Your dad's a bottom. No, just. 395 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,320 Oh, my God. Hi, Daddy. 396 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,240 OK, which one am I? I have no idea. 397 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,640 I You're. Totally a Scott hunter. 398 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,280 Am IA Scott Hunter? Oh, for sure. 399 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,160 OK, I'll take that. Yeah, you have that sort of. 400 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,160 You're tall. You've got that sort of all 401 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,920 American energy in a certain way. 402 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,680 You know, you're definitely not a shame. 403 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,360 No, I don't feel like I'm a shame. 404 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,560 I wish I were in some ways because like. 405 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,280 Or maybe I'm just jealous that he's with you if. 406 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,320 You're out and proud, so you've got to be Scott Hunter. 407 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,600 Yeah, OK. And listeners, hey, if you've, 408 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,080 if you've got some insights of which player is which character, 409 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,720 hit us up over on Instagram. Our Instagram, as always, is at 410 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,960 TBB Tennis. That's at TBB Tennis. 411 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,840 Let us know who is who. Let us know who you are, Which 412 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,040 character are you? Because I think this is the new 413 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,240 Sex and the City. And make sure you tag #heated 414 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,200 rivalry so we get extra engagement. 415 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,680 Yeah, yeah, I only want to see hockey pucks in my feed and 416 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,200 women crying. And like ads for T-shirts from 417 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,080 heated rivalry merch. Yeah, exactly. 418 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,120 OK, well if that wasn't gay enough, we're going to move on 419 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:18,520 to our lobs beans, which is as always, the things that just 420 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,960 have made us gayer for tennis since the last show. 421 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,320 There's always so many. We post a lot of these on her 422 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,600 Instagram, so go check us out over there. 423 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,080 But a few big things that have happened. 424 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,800 Venus Williams, she is finally an honest woman. 425 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:36,120 She has gotten married. It was so extremely chic and 426 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:38,680 fun. A whole weekend of festivities. 427 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:43,040 I'm so happy for her and her spread in Vogue. 428 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,280 Oh my God, this put her on the runway. 429 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,880 She is stunning. She had the whole bridal party 430 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,640 in white also, which at first I was like, oh, I don't know about 431 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,640 that, but it looked chic. It looked great. 432 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,360 I mean, it's weird when you see the outtakes of just her and 433 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:01,840 Serena in the white dresses because you're like, why is she? 434 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,320 Why are they both wearing white? But that you see all of them. 435 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:07,080 It makes sense. Yeah, you're totally right. 436 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,320 Because when I first just saw it with Serena, I was like. 437 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,400 They just wearing white dress. Sister's wedding. 438 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,000 Yeah, that's that's like, let her have this day. 439 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,920 Yeah, yeah, she's now going to be the Co chair for the Met 440 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,880 Gala, also with Beyoncé and Nicole Kidman. 441 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:22,080 Hello. But I got to wonder. 442 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,200 So literally just announced she just got a wild card to 443 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,640 Australia, which is great. Yeah, it just happened, which I 444 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,440 was like, wait, doesn't she want to go on her honeymoon or 445 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,800 something? But is this her last year on 446 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:34,120 tour? I. 447 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,240 Mean your guess is as good as mine. 448 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,280 I thought five years ago was her last year. 449 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,880 Also, has she been training real hard since the wedding? 450 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,520 Is she going to be ready for this? 451 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,320 I love that she's doing it. I mean, so how old is Venus? 452 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,640 She's 45. She's 45, I'm 48 and I went and 453 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,960 played squash yesterday. I have a bad knee at the moment 454 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,520 and that wasn't bugging me. My hip was tight and I 455 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,160 immediately pulled my like, tweaked my SI joint somehow like 456 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,960 I was old like. Our bodies can't do this 457 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,200 forever. How does she do that? 458 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,400 It's crazy. Yeah, I don't, I don't have the 459 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,680 highest hopes that she's going to go on a big run. 460 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,680 I mean, she's never won the Australian Open. 461 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,320 Maybe she'll win a match. I'll watch her until until the 462 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,360 next season of heated rivalry. I do think this is her last year 463 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:22,840 though, and I do think Serena's going to come back for a Double 464 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,400 S tournament and that's going to be the. 465 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,960 Big thing. I'm ready for all of that. 466 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,120 Yeah, Yeah, I think it's time, yeah. 467 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,120 But I'm just glad that we get a little more taste of Venus and 468 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:39,720 another lobby and has just been the end of year Bay TP debate. 469 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,840 So I got to respond to this because I posted at the end of 470 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,480 last year our year end Bay Teepee rankings. 471 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,680 And as the kids say, UNK got cooked in the comments. 472 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,560 So there's a lot of feedback. And look, I appreciate the 473 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,720 debate. It's a very important subject of 474 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,640 who's in the top eight of the Bay teepee. 475 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,760 But I just want to give a reminder to everyone that we are 476 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,360 not just a list of hot guys because if we're just that, that 477 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:10,640 that list will get so stale and it'll be the same 8 bimbos week 478 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,160 after week because nothing's going to change. 479 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,800 Like who's so hot this week? So it's also based on on court 480 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,360 performance. It's based on cultural impact. 481 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:23,120 So if you are in vogue like you know when Felix Ojelia seems 482 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:25,760 wedding was in vogue he got bait TP points. 483 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,720 Also she was playing amazing at the end of the season like that 484 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,320 man course corrected in a in the same way he became the player 485 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,600 everyone thought he could be in like last three turnips of the 486 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,800 season. Exactly. 487 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:39,360 And also, you know, throughout the course of the year, if you 488 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:42,680 beat a villain, like if you beat Zverev or if you beat Novak, 489 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,840 when it happens to be a time when I hate Novak, you get extra 490 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,840 Bay TP points. So it's all of those things 491 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,160 combined. So that there's there is 492 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,960 versatility, there's variety. So if you're big Jack Draper 493 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,720 fan, sorry Nathan Frizzell, you better hope that that man gets 494 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,360 back on the court because if you're not playing actively, 495 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:01,600 then you're not going to get the point. 496 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,480 I just want to say that I appreciate the debate and we're 497 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,640 going to continue having it because the debate TP is not 498 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,920 going anywhere. We might have to expand to 10 499 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,520 instead of 8. But I also want to make one more 500 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,480 heated rivalry point. Look, we love Shane and Elia and 501 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,080 Scott Hunter. You know what? 502 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,720 Those boys are not benchwarmers. Those are the three best players 503 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,320 in the entire league and that's what makes them hot. 504 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,840 I'm sorry, but if they were like third string, if they were the 505 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,600 waterboy, we wouldn't care as much. 506 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,160 So we like so the Bay TP. It matters if you're actually 507 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,360 winning tournaments. Like you can't be some male 508 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:38,280 model plays tennis. Yeah, you're not going to make 509 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,040 the cut like, you know, sorry. Like you could. 510 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,600 Maybe you're like, not the best performing player, but you do 511 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,280 something amazing like come out for Black Lives Matter or 512 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,440 something exactly in the sporting world. 513 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,440 Like if any of these guys had spoken out against the USTA 514 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,600 censoring Trump being booed at the US Open, they would have 515 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,200 gotten ATP points. Or like saying you don't want 516 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,320 the women to have to go play in Saudi Arabia. 517 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,920 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Casper Rude is the only player 518 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,160 who speaks out against Saudi Arabia. 519 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,920 He gets points for that. He also gets points for suddenly 520 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,760 being a potential power bottom. Oh my God, yeah. 521 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,440 OK. The last slobs me in, though, 522 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,480 and this is going to get into a meteor discussion, is Carlos 523 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,560 Alcaraz and his thirsty, thirsty social media activity lately. 524 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,480 Like he has graduated from the puppy Cam of him doing stretches 525 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,200 in the weight room to like, I'm calling it only cans. 526 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,640 I I think what's happened is he's gone through this breakup 527 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,760 and this heartache and he's posting these thirst traps. 528 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,480 He's basically in his underwear. He is fully untucked. 529 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,040 Like, his Dick is literally flopping around and half of them 530 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,640 and I'm like, is he trying to show Juan Carlos Ferrero what 531 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,960 he's missing? Like, you know when someone 532 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,320 dumps you, you're going to be like revenge body. 533 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,680 He did that whole year in review carousel slideshow on Instagram 534 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,480 and didn't post a single picture of Juan Carlos. 535 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,400 No, no. Approached him to two majors, 536 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,040 yeah. Oh, who, who was so important 537 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,080 and, and, and meaningful? And, and we're going to talk 538 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,600 about the split in a little more serious manner, but I'm just 539 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,480 sort of like, have you seen some of these? 540 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,200 The new trend is the players are rolling their shorts up into 541 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,320 their underwear. It looks like a diaper. 542 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,160 I mean, it's, it's sexy, but it's it's a little desperate, 543 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,480 it's a little thirsty. And I'm like, OK, are you trying 544 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,840 to show Juan Carlos what you missed? 545 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,240 Is this your is this in a way that you're going to get a new 546 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,600 coach? Like, I don't know if Goran 547 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,800 Ivanisovic is at home being like, wow, this guy is sexy. 548 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,960 And then I was also wondering, Ivy, like, do women even like 549 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,480 it? Or is he just doing it for gay 550 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,000 men? Like why is he doing this? 551 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,360 I don't personally, I'm not like a physique person, you know, I 552 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:44,920 spend a lot of time with athletes in the gym. 553 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,840 Like it doesn't interest me. I even find sometimes like with 554 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,840 the they're like because my of course, my Instagram was all 555 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,360 heated rivalry when they're flexing their muscles and 556 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,080 looking like that. I don't like that as much as 557 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,640 just sort of like casual. Go soft. 558 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,400 When my female friends were really into the doll, posing 559 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,520 shirtless. I'm like, I don't have no 560 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,880 interest in this. This is that but with your Dick 561 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,920 showing. Like he's literally doing slow 562 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,440 MO videos his. Dick. 563 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,440 I do not want to see his Dick. And so, but I'm just wondering 564 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,600 what is his strategy there? Is he just like I'm a badass? 565 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,800 I'm like a partier. I'm so hot. 566 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,120 I mean, no coach is going to be like, I want to coach that. 567 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,800 I mean, yes, they are because he's the best tennis player in 568 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,280 the world. So they could coach, they could 569 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,040 coach him if he just was like full frontal erection on 570 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,080 Instagram. Like it's like, you know, like 571 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:36,120 I'll still coach him. I have some thoughts why he's 572 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:38,120 doing it. Like he's the anti Sinner. 573 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,640 Like Sinner Sinner is not going to do this. 574 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,120 A little fucking tucked in polo shirt. 575 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,880 Like has a girlfriend at all times. 576 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,400 He always has a serious girlfriends and carries a Gucci 577 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,280 purse on court. Alcaraz is a good tennis player 578 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,600 and kind of like a boy who lives in a small apartment is all I 579 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,320 really know about him. He doesn't have an image. 580 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,120 I have gone through some of my contacts in the sporting world 581 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,840 that he's a bit of a party boy and he likes the ladies. 582 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,000 That that's one of the reasons he underperforms in certain 583 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,720 masters is he's like out in the town of Monte Carlo in Miami and 584 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,040 what have you. And, you know, you've never seen 585 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,120 with a girlfriend because probably women throwing 586 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,280 themselves at him. I used to think you'd never saw 587 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,680 him with a girlfriend because he was like a nerd, but I think 588 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,520 he's quite the opposite. So I think these pictures are 589 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,080 like maybe like, I don't know, Juan Carlos was like, don't do 590 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,680 that or, you know. Yeah, I feel like he's acting 591 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,600 out. I I keep comparing him to JoJo 592 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,880 Siwa, but I again, it's reminding me of JoJo. 593 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,800 It's just sort of I think that this is going to be his 594 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,360 rebellious year and he's going to be like, yeah, like I don't 595 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,040 care. And like I'm worried about what 596 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,720 this year is going to look like for him. 597 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,840 Like I don't think that he's has a shot in Australia because Rick 598 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,560 right now his his former secondary coach is going to be 599 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,800 his head coach, Co coached by his brother, his brother who 600 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,320 literally couldn't get the right Clipper on to give him a haircut 601 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,400 to U.S. Open and shaved his head bald by 602 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,960 accident. That's who your coach is now. 603 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,840 Well, I mean that really worked for him because people started 604 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,640 talking about his hair non-stop. I don't know too much about his 605 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,840 brother. I know more about his younger 606 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,120 brother Jaime. Sometimes your family coach is 607 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,720 someone who just keeps you on the straight and narrow or, you 608 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,120 know, keeps you motivated. But I worry that this coach 609 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,320 situation with the family member is also a huge enabler, though I 610 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,680 don't really know. He's probably just kind of 611 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,320 fucking win Australia and surprise us all. 612 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,000 I mean, he he could because he's obviously generational talent. 613 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,000 I just, I think this move is going to hurt him both this year 614 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,400 and potentially in the long run. Like he could end up being a 615 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,640 Bjorn Borg. Like, I forget who was saying 616 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,080 it, but someone's like, you know, this, this he could just 617 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,160 burn himself out by partying and and like, retire at 25. 618 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,040 Well, Borg retired because he just got sick of the spotlight 619 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,080 and the pressure and I guess he was like partying. 620 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,200 I think actually you're right that his chances in Australia 621 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,280 are probably lower than Sinner's because I bet Sinner's been 622 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,880 training the whole holiday season. 623 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,880 Oh, Sinner is like locked in and and Sinner actually did post a 624 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,880 shirtless photo. It was, it was like, yes, that 625 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,560 is also what an athlete's body looks like. 626 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,040 And it was just like skin and bones and a six pack. 627 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,400 And you know what? It's great. 628 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,520 Every. Yeah, yeah. 629 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,480 I mean, that's not really. I don't call that a shirtless 630 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,600 photo. I call it a photo with his shirt 631 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,080 off. Yeah, exactly. 632 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,880 So when this breakup happened, I was shocked. 633 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,760 I was. I was so surprised and I was 634 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,160 going to the comments section as everyone does on Instagram. 635 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,520 And what really annoyed me was like all of these people in the 636 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,600 tennis world just immediately going to congratulations, you 637 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,400 guys had the best run. Oh my God, that was so great. 638 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,000 I'm so happy for you both. Well done guys. 639 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,560 And I was like, wait, this is like watching like mommy and 640 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,880 daddy get a divorce. This is watching dad walk out on 641 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,760 his kid. And we're all like, 642 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,760 congratulations. I was so surprised and kind of 643 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,440 upset when I heard that it happened. 644 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,280 Like were you expecting? It No, not at all. 645 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,120 I've been a huge fan of Juan Carlos since forever and he's 646 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,240 always seemed like a really good guy. 647 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,080 Very mild mannered, very restrained, focused. 648 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,840 I don't believe that he is lying when he says that he was sort of 649 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,120 sideswiped by the whole Alcaraz family. 650 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,280 And I know he's not giving all the details, but it did seem 651 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,480 that they sort of, you know, fucked him and. 652 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,920 Yeah. Yeah, I, I, I guess I'm, I was 653 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,120 surprised that it happened, but when a few small details came 654 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,440 out, it sort of makes sense in a certain way. 655 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,240 And this happens, you're always like, I'm always surprised. 656 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,960 I think Twitter, they're like Radicano, like she wins the US 657 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,600 Open and fires her coats. And, you know, this is just what 658 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,920 happens. This is a weird analogy, but I 659 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,400 used to date a chef and we would watch Top Chef all the time and 660 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,640 we made this joke like if you go on Top Chef, you need to have 661 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,600 tattooed in your arms. Stay focused. 662 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,360 Don't make what you don't know. Like it's always some guy in the 663 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,520 finale of Top Chef Like, well, I've never made this like crazy 664 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,600 thing using this machine ever, but I'm going to do it on live 665 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,680 TV with $100,000 at stake. And then next season somebody 666 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,280 comes in like I'm not very good at making pasta, but I'm going 667 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,320 to do it by hand using scissors, you know? 668 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,680 And there's this same thing. You're like, I won this 669 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,920 tournament and like, I've had this great thing going for me, 670 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,240 but I'm going to fire my it happens quite frequently in 671 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,640 tennis. Yeah, no, that's a great point. 672 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,880 I mean, I can't help but think of Coco Golf after she won the 673 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,600 US Open. She gets rid of Brad Gilbert. 674 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,720 Exactly. Dude, that was that was how you 675 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,120 won that tournament. That was working. 676 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:33,800 Yeah, that was working. Yeah. 677 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,240 And there are different rumors out there about, oh, it's about 678 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,600 money. It's about Juan Carlos didn't 679 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,280 like his lifestyle that Carlos was was leading. 680 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,760 Also, Juan de Carlos didn't want to travel as much. 681 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,480 And also too many exhibitions I think, which I agree with if 682 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:48,880 that's true. Fuck, yeah. 683 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,640 But I think that it was it was interesting because from what 684 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,240 I've read, Juan Carlos and Carlos never actually talked 685 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,320 face to face about it was all through the family. 686 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,880 And I think the family overstepped. 687 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,520 And that's a real beta cuck move from Carlos Alcarez to let his 688 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,080 family. Be here infant. 689 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,800 He didn't want his coach. Like is he not an adult human 690 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,159 being? Yeah, it it's like, wait, you're 691 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:17,000 going to let your family just determine the future of the most 692 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,520 impactful relationship on your tennis career by miles? 693 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,560 You're going to just seed control and be on the sideline 694 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,800 just posting Dick pics. That's why I was like, what are 695 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,920 you doing? Carlos? 696 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,239 You seem so unfazed by the breakup. 697 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,280 You know, what's interesting is I feel like now we're having 698 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,320 this conversation, like, know too much about Alcarass's 699 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,280 personality. I know a lot more about sinners. 700 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,760 I feel like Carlos might be having a little bit of like a 701 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,840 Justin Bieber moment. He was raised in the spotlight, 702 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,600 but he was never allowed to be himself. 703 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,560 And like, maybe, maybe he doesn't know who he is. 704 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,000 Maybe he was tired of that second daddy. 705 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,120 If I had to make my like completely off base prediction, 706 00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:01,280 he's going to win the French with whatever jaggy ass coaching 707 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,240 team he's put together and assume it's all going to be 708 00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:05,680 fine. And then in the summer I think 709 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,160 he'll do fine at the Australian, Not as bad as we think. 710 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,000 He's not going to win it. Then he's going to win the 711 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,200 French. He's definitely the best on play 712 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,880 and then the wheels will come off. 713 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,840 Yeah, I think it's going to take a little longer. 714 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,160 I I agree, but as as one may know, I have a a penchant for 715 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,320 for big talking. So I don't think he's winning a 716 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,840 slam next year. OK, so we'll see. 717 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,840 But yeah, I mean, the the the French is the one that he has 718 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,360 the the best shot at. But I actually kind of I, I can 719 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,400 see a world where Djokovic sneaks in and takes #25 at the 720 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,160 French because of this, like a betting man. 721 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,560 Rises from the dead. Yeah, exactly. 722 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,920 Nadal comes out of retirement, you know you've. 723 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,440 Heard it first since the past is winning the French this year. 724 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,880 OK, if this happens I'm going to make this a real. 725 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,360 Yeah. OK, well we will see what 726 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,480 happens in the ongoing saga or remember the saga is over and 727 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,360 maybe it's just like OK shit happens and they'll all move on. 728 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,320 But I, and again, maybe heated rivalries just made me so 729 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,120 emotional, but like, I was even sad that Diminauer broke up with 730 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,080 ASICS and is now with Wilson. I mean, I'm just like, I just 731 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,240 want everyone to stay together. That's where I'm at. 732 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:20,640 That's where my my 2026 mind is. Oh my God, but the Wilson 733 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,480 clothes are so good. Oh, it's so good. 734 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,400 It's so hot. Clothes is like there's nothing 735 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,400 like them in tennis. They're killing it, yeah. 736 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,720 Unlike some outfits we've seen. Unlike, I mean, another knock 737 00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,240 for Carlos at the Australian Open. 738 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:36,400 His kit is hideous. It's like a giant green and 739 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,560 white and black like hair. It's just weird. 740 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:49,440 Yeah, it's hideous. Yeah, moving on a little bit to 741 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,840 some actual action that took place. 742 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,520 There's been some some promising tennis that's a bit of a 743 00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:00,440 harbinger for things to come. Some just rehash some themes and 744 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,040 we're money grabs. All of it took place in the 745 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,440 Middle East, which as a gay for tennis podcast, just is great. 746 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,760 I love that we just keep giving the Middle East all this money 747 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,400 and attention. But we had the Next Gen. finals. 748 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,160 This is a really interesting tournament in general. 749 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,200 It's when we've gotten early looks at legitimate future 750 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,680 stars. It was the first time we saw 751 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,920 Yannick Sinner. He won it as a wild card in 752 00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:25,640 2019. He was like ranked 93rd in the 753 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,360 world. No one. 754 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,000 That was the first time I ever heard like the Sinner boom. 755 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,720 And my nipples got hard and I was like, that is a forehand. 756 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,920 This year's field. Pretty damn week. 757 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,120 Lerner, TN ranked inside the top 30 and then everyone else is 758 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,800 ranked outside of the top 100. This is the worst ranking field 759 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,080 for the Next Gen. tournament. What's the age cap for next Gen. 760 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,520 20. How old is Fonseca? 761 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,240 Oh he he qualified, he just didn't play. 762 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:55,120 Same with Mensit. Oh, they just didn't play OK. 763 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,080 Yeah, they saved a lot again. So if the guys who who qualified 764 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,160 had all played it, it, it would be more competitive, but more 765 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,080 and more people who are qualifying but just not playing, 766 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,080 They've already got the high profile they've already got. 767 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,680 And also the season's so long they want the break. 768 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,000 So Lerner Tian wins, which is great. 769 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,400 I love Lerner's game. I, I, I, I, I love seeing his 770 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,280 coach Michael Chang around. The tennis was fine, but I think 771 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,400 it would have been way worse if Lerner Tian hadn't won, like 772 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,960 against this really weak field. I do like the fast format. 773 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,840 These matches were over in 40 minutes. 774 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,440 It was sets to four. It was super fast. 775 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,200 Every match was like a nibble because it wasn't the greatest 776 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,040 field. I was like, I I was I was fine 777 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,600 with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 778 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,160 One thing I couldn't stop looking at was even when they're 779 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,000 playing and it's all indoors, obviously because it's 1000° 780 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,680 over there, the the audience is bathed in red light for the 781 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,320 entire match. And I was just like, this is 782 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,320 just looks like the evil empire, the bowels of hell. 783 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,480 Like what, like why? And we're. 784 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,880 Palpatine's chamber. Yes, I was like, OK, is this 785 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,640 like The Shining? Everyone's like covered in blood 786 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,040 and. Blood of infidels. 787 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,280 Yeah, seriously, we will find you. 788 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,680 But to your point earlier though of like, you know these players, 789 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,520 a lot of the ones that qualify don't need it. 790 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,400 Like do we need the Next Gen. Cup? 791 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,720 We need nothing after the end of the season is my feeling. 0 792 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:29,160 things. I mean I try my hardest to get 793 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,240 psyched for the Asia swing and there are some cool stuff that 794 00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:36,960 happens over there. But then by the time the Paris 795 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,080 Masters rolls around I'm like OK are we finishing this shit? 796 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,080 I other people are huge fans of the WTA Finals. 797 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,560 This year was a good one, but like anything post, the end of 798 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,400 the season seems so superfluous that I could just I think we 799 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,000 just need a break. We made this joke last year 800 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,680 because I almost did this with you. 801 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,400 This opening podcast last year was that the season had already 802 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,120 started in 2024 or 2025. But you know, I just think it's 803 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,920 all stupid. I just think there's too much 804 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,840 nonsense at the end of the year. So I had a theory, I think one 805 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,840 of the impetuses impetai for why they would have this was it. 806 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:24,000 It started in 2017 during the tail end but still peak BIG4 807 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,200 where they were still winning. Everything he needed new names. 808 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,000 And, and, and it was. And we'd seen a generation of 809 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,480 the Dimitrovs and and others never breakthrough. 810 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,160 They were like, let's give the next Gen. a platform because 811 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,160 Carlos Alcaraz won next Gen. Sinner won next Gen. 812 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,720 All these guys who are now fixtures in top 20 participated. 813 00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:47,280 So I was like, OK, it's legit. It's not like American Idol 814 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,360 where you win American Idol and then you never heard from again. 815 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,320 You win next Gen. you're probably in the mix going 816 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,840 forward. But now that the big four are 817 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,960 all gone except for for Novak, and it's easier to get exposure, 818 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,440 it's easier to get some wins on tour if the draw is as weak as 819 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,560 what we just had. I'm sorry, I except for learner 820 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,840 Tien. I don't think we're going to be 821 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,360 talking about anyone else who was in the field. 822 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,600 And that's when it's like, if it's going to be like that, they 823 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,920 got to get rid of it. Yeah, and I don't think learner 824 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,680 Tien has to be a top ten player if you want to know the truth. 825 00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:20,360 I think he's got, he's got potential. 826 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:21,960 I don't think it's a lot that he's. 827 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,440 No, no, no, no. But if we don't have at least 828 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,840 three or four people at the level of a Lerner Tien and a 829 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,680 Fonseca and a Sinner emerging and kind of coming out of, you 830 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,400 know, prepubescence, then there's no point in having this 831 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,000 tournament. And then we then I think we 832 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,880 leave it behind. So because otherwise, yeah, let 833 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,520 these kids rest, Let them. Let them go play Xbox. 834 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,760 The other big thing that we had for action since the last show 835 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,400 was Battle of the Sexists, which is Arena Sabalinka versus Nick. 836 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,720 Curious. Battle of the Sexes. 837 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:54,480 I mean, talk about 1 battle after another. 838 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,360 Jesus fucking Christ. So Ivy, you and I were going to 839 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,640 live stream it watching it from your bed. 840 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,640 I come over, we're in bed watching it. 841 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,240 Thank God we decide not to do that, because what a mess. 842 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:11,280 It was the hottest mess I've seen of a sports exhibition in 843 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,720 my life. Like what? 844 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,600 So just to recap, Nick Kirios wins Shocker in straight sets 845 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,800 and I actually think that you picked the score because you 846 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,360 were like, no, they won't let Arena lose 6 love, 6 love 847 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,000 because that will look horrible for women's sport and whatever. 848 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,520 And then, but obviously Nick is going to win and so he wins 849 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,320 6363. He won without trying. 850 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,800 First of all, for those of you who didn't see this nightmare, 851 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,000 the court look hella janky. Oh my God, it was crazy. 852 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,360 They. Could have used a regular court 853 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,200 and blocked it out, but they taped some kind of janky ass 854 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,040 court where which they had the audacity to admit a live 855 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,640 broadcast they'd only erected like 2 hours before. 856 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,160 It was, like, done overnight, yeah. 857 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,040 So his side of the court, at first it was Gray and ugly. 858 00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:00,160 The side that Curious is standing on the side blank is 859 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,160 playing into his full size. And then her side, it looks like 860 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,880 a pickleball court looks like at least a foot and 1/2 or foot in 861 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,080 on. Either side of that. 862 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,440 And a foot back. So when she's serving, as you 863 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,240 notice she's standing way behind that line and she has to hit 864 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,960 into a much smaller target area. So Curious can't actually play 865 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,720 even close to his potential unless he's willing to hit the 866 00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:24,440 ball straight down the middle because everything he's been 867 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,360 trained to do no longer exists on that court. 868 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:33,080 Yeah, I would estimate he was hitting at 50% speed because 869 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,800 every once in a while he'd crank one. 870 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,760 And you're like, oh, that's right. 871 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,600 Absolutely. But I just want to add one 872 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,520 thing. So my daughter plays squash and 873 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,520 she's good for the 11, you know, and I take her to the club and 874 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,000 she, I have a friend named Kareem who she plays with and my 875 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,040 like a couple other guys, they would probably beat her without 876 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:50,560 a point if they were playing full out. 877 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,880 They wind up getting a really good workout because they're 878 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,640 hitting 30-40 shots. He looked like that. 879 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,800 So people are assuming. Oh, and he was puffing and 880 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,600 puffing and like really getting. I was like, yeah, because he's, 881 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,400 he's keeping the ball going. He wants to play short points, 882 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,360 but he can't. Yeah, and you also said this. 883 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,160 The commentators were acting like it was a real match. 884 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,080 I felt like they were lying to us. 885 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,360 Yeah, we were lied to nonstop. The gaslighting of like, oh, 886 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,520 like, oh, he's really trying and and she broke him a few times, 887 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,320 which was just ridiculous. I don't think anyone walked away 888 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,040 from this looking good in the slightest. 889 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,960 I don't think it had anything to do with equality the way Billie 890 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,120 Jean King did when she played Bobby Riggs. 891 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,080 And it just it, it made every everyone look like an asshole 892 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:37,120 walking away from. It and the other thing was it is 893 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,920 not a discredit to a top female athlete to say that the number 894 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,600 one in the world woman will probably lose the number one 895 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,320 college player, the number one junior boy, you know, or anyone 896 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,200 outside the top 500 or 200. That has nothing to do with how 897 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,160 good Sabalenka is. It's just a different metric. 898 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:01,120 He's just physically stronger because he's a man. 899 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,120 An exhibition like that will never settle the story. 900 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,680 What you really needed to do is have someone go out there and 901 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,520 try full on and show. I'm going to work my hardest 902 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:12,760 here. I'm going to get some great 903 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,120 shots in here, but I'm still going to lose and it's going to 904 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,440 be a level playing field. Yeah, it should have been at 905 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,920 least. Yeah, the having the court 906 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,880 dimensions was such a weird gimmick and it it didn't need to 907 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,280 happen. And again, it diminished 908 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,000 everything. It was coddling to women 909 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,640 everywhere. I felt icky. 910 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,760 I felt icky too, and I felt so weird, like watching curious, 911 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,800 like walk up to the net and do those flicks across the net and 912 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,000 then it's so sad, Sad. But like Russia, its speed is 913 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,160 not her thing too. So he's hit it short. 914 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,600 She's like struggling to get it. And then everyone's thought 915 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,760 she'd be able to crank an amazing ball, but he was so had 916 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,160 a position, having sort of fed it to her, that he couldn't get 917 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,480 it. It just felt so dishonest. 918 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,880 Yeah, there was nothing authentic about it. 919 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,120 And also to your point, like about some general differences, 920 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,680 he's 6 foot 4. Like maybe battle of sex, as it 921 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,440 should be at least like people to sit and get Diego Schwartzman 922 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,720 out there. I don't know, like that's the 923 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:05,400 thing where it's just like the height. 924 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,720 Is one more parent. I mean, also, there was really 925 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:11,280 something on the line for Billie Jean King. 926 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,320 It was a huge moment for women's equality back then. 927 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,400 Women's tennis wasn't respected the way it is now and they 928 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,400 weren't paid the way it is now. Semolina had nothing to lose. 929 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,920 She it was a money grab. Yeah, yeah. 930 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,880 I couldn't find online what their appearance fee was, but 931 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,400 yeah, they were just getting paid. 932 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,720 It was, you know, and also their kids were boring, like at least 933 00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:34,800 like make a show out of it. It was just yeah, yeah. 934 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,360 So we might not be leaving the next Gen. in 2025, but we are 935 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,840 definitely leaving Battle the Sexes in 2025. 936 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,160 So we're going to start looking ahead at what's coming up in the 937 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,800 year ahead of us. I want to do a quick speed round 938 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,360 of some predictions with you, IE. 939 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,360 So I've got some questions this year. 940 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,160 Looking ahead in 2026, who will retire, Madison Keys or Elena 941 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,760 Svidolina? Keys. 942 00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:09,640 Keys. OK, Yeah, My theory is they're 943 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,920 both they're both going to get pregnant this year. 944 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,080 I I think like I think that Svitolina and Monfies want a 945 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,920 second baby and I think he's is. I think you want that major. 946 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,000 And then it wasn't so hot for her after that. 947 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,080 Exactly, You know what, I and I'm so happy for her and I will 948 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,360 never forget what she did for all of us. 949 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,040 She was like the heated rivalry for gay fans of tennis at the 950 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,760 Australian Open. We all needed that. 951 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,600 We were all like, OK, next. Which Czech WTA player will have 952 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,880 the healthiest year, Krzikova, Mukova or Vondrosova? 953 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,560 Oath. That's a fucking awesome 954 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,600 question. Will any? 955 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,560 Of them survive. Oh OK. 956 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,360 Honestly it's a pick em for me. Like I feel like they're. 957 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,960 Just wrong with those people. What happened? 958 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,800 Where he had. An amazing question. 959 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,200 They're all just one of them is always broken. 960 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,720 Yeah, it's it's rough. OK. 961 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:07,000 Will Davidovich Fukina finally win a tournament, or are we in 962 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,000 store for more tears? Oh, I really hope so. 963 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,800 Like I'm a huge fan. I love him. 964 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,720 I just love him. I've loved him since day one. 965 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:17,440 He also has an animal rescue, which I'm a big fan of. 966 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,000 He better win a tournament. I mean even if it's like 250. 967 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,240 250 yeah, Oh yeah. Just he needs to break the seal. 968 00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:27,480 He needs to just like, get it done. 969 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,880 And pop that cherry. Go anal. 970 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,640 Yes. Cool. 971 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,760 Well, yeah. And so. 972 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,320 So those are some of our predictions for for the new 973 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,440 year. But I want to talk New Year's 974 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,080 resolutions. We're all making our resolutions 975 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,520 now. I pick up smoking just so I 976 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,520 could quit again. I'm just kidding. 977 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,200 But I want to talk tennis resolutions. 978 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,080 And so if anyone has listened to the show before, they know I've 979 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,920 got some pretty strong opinions about the tour and the state of 980 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,880 things and things that the tour should change. 981 00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:04,320 Of course, we all want to say this year is the year we end 982 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,080 sport Washington, Saudi Arabia, but that's like saying we're 983 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,840 gonna lose weight or we're gonna start flossing. 984 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,600 It's just not gonna happen. I feel we're getting deeper and 985 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,200 deeper into Saudi Arabia. Like, Oh my. 986 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,600 God the Masters is coming in 2028. 987 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,320 And then Gabin Lugarutha is like the spokesman for Saudi Arabia 988 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,040 women's sport. Yeah, well, and, and honestly, 989 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,480 the worst part of Next Gen. was seeing Nadal all over it, just 990 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,000 like sitting next to all like the Sheikhs and Amir's. 991 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,560 I don't like it. And you know, this is not some 992 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,120 xenophobia. No, it's not xenophobia. 993 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,280 It's a culture that oppresses women and homosexuality. 994 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,160 That's not xenophobic, that's cultural. 995 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,240 Yeah. I mean, I've been to Dubai and 996 00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:49,120 Sharjah, which is a dry emirate and much more conservative, and 997 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:50,560 there's some really great things there. 998 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,200 Yeah, I'm not saying the entire Middle East exactly. 999 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,440 Just saying that the women's shed and the gay shed is not 1000 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,480 acceptable. It is not acceptable and I'm 1001 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,640 just going to continue saying that all these other people can 1002 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,560 go around being like, oh, it's so great for the sport. 1003 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:03,920 We're growing it and we're making change. 1004 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,000 They need someone to boycott it. They need Coco Golf to be like 1005 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,200 later motherfuckers. Exactly, and you know Coco Golf 1006 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,480 is the highest paid athlete in the world for women. 1007 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,600 So she doesn't need. That she doesn't need it. 1008 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,280 Although also I don't want to put the weight of this on Coco's 1009 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,920 shoulders. She does so much already. 1010 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,840 But yes, somebody ego, somebody needs to say something. 1011 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,000 But you. Just got good politics. 1012 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,280 You know what, I'm bullish on ego. 1013 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,760 So that gave me two yeah OK, but here are some other resolutions. 1014 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,960 I'll list them out and we'll just say which ones they got to 1015 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,880 do OK, no more gimmicks. This one point slam that is 1016 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,200 coming up in Australia is killing me. 1017 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,600 For anyone who doesn't know, it's a bunch of amateurs playing 1018 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,720 against pros, including Carlos Alcarez for a one point match 1019 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:46,640 and IF. You've done that before. 1020 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,800 Oh really? And if you win the tournament, 1021 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,000 you get $1,000,000. Oh, I'm sorry, they do that on 1022 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,440 the squash tour. That's where I they have this 1023 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,320 tournament and the money is like on court in a suitcase. 1024 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,640 OK, that's kind of chic. I love that. 1025 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,560 But but I love that. The sport has grown in 1026 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:06,760 popularity, but there is a level of taste that is lacking from 1027 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,080 all these gimmicks. So the taste level of tennis 1028 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,520 overall has gone down. Like when you go to the Indian 1029 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,920 Wells or the Open U.S. Open, there's just a level of 1030 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,720 insanity and drunkenness that like, how many melon ball things 1031 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,920 honey deuces drink. It's like 24 honey deuces that 1032 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,480 we stuck. I'm in a big thing. 1033 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,720 Fuck yeah. Oh yeah, you hate. 1034 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:31,360 Tailgating this shit, there's all those are very expensive. 1035 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,280 So from a financial standpoint it's not great, but like, it's 1036 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,120 all gimmicky. I think the fans are doing it 1037 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,960 for the gram. Yeah, one point Slam is doing it 1038 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,440 for the gram. Yeah, I'm not interested at all. 1039 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,240 Next resolution is I think they need to cut a cup. 1040 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:47,920 We've got too many of these cups. 1041 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,280 United, Davis, everything. I mean, it's just too much. 1042 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,680 The one where you have Europe versus the world, which one is 1043 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,000 that? The Labor Cup. 1044 00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:56,960 Yeah, that's the one I can't stand. 1045 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,560 That's Federer's baby, and they're doing it out of respect 1046 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,360 for him. Yeah, no. 1047 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,760 That's a dumb ass game. No, and it and it's just like it 1048 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,040 just like the next Gen. is no longer tracking the top people 1049 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,840 that qualify the next Gen. the Labor Cup, when it first 1050 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,680 started, it was top 20. Only now they're pulling in 1051 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,480 freaking like Sarundalo, who I love, but it's just like it's 1052 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,440 still it's it you we don't need it. 1053 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,560 It's not doing anything. Yeah, totally. 1054 00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:27,720 The next resolution Revert to actual mixed double S at the US 1055 00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:29,160 Open. Oh Lord, please. 1056 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,840 Like we can we can unring this bell. 1057 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,160 It doesn't have to be this weird cult of celebrity tournament 1058 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,600 where the actual tennis is not good. 1059 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,240 We got to change it back. You know you went and you kind 1060 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:44,000 of liked it though, right? Well, I like any sports live and 1061 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,120 the level of the players that were on court, I was like wow, 1062 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,000 it would be amazing if they were actually good at Double S Carlos 1063 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,360 and Emma Radakanu were were a pair and Carlos kept running in 1064 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,120 front of Emma hitting her ball. They weren't actually 1065 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,760 strategists in double s and they weren't playing well. 1066 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,360 The matches sucked to be honest and it was great. 1067 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,720 The team that won was the double specialist. 1068 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,360 Well, that's what I feel is the bigger problem, like is that 1069 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,560 people who make their money playing Double S couldn't play 1070 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,000 mixed Double S. Really interesting. 1071 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,840 I remember my favorite player, Bianca Andreasque, winning a 1072 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,200 slam in Double S. We're getting to the finals and 1073 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,520 she's coming back about like those opportunities are really 1074 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,080 being taken away. Yeah, exactly. 1075 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,640 There's so many things that don't work about it, but they're 1076 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,520 just doing it because they want to get the big spectacle of it. 1077 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:36,520 And it's no longer a legitimate tour title in, in my mind, next 1078 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,400 resolution. No more dating your coaches. 1079 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,920 I'm tired of this look, I I love that Madison Keys hired her 1080 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,120 husband to be her coach. Bjorn friend Angelo great. 1081 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,680 I love that they were very much in love. 1082 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,640 The rabacanas of it all these situations and it really only 1083 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,520 happens. It's never the men dating their 1084 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,800 women coach. It's just the the women players 1085 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,840 end up dating their lothario male coaches. 1086 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,520 I think that's I we got to stop it. 1087 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,000 No more dating your coach. I mean it would be amazing if 1088 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,600 Andy Murray dated, I believe Morezmo. 1089 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,840 Oh my, talk about a heated rivalry. 1090 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,360 Rivalry. Which one is the bottom there? 1091 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,640 Oh no, she's the top. Yeah, no, Murray. 1092 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,160 I don't what I was saying. I'm sorry. 1093 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,120 Yeah. I mean worked out for a buck and 1094 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,920 I should get back together a coach and played some of the 1095 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,960 best tennis of the year. But is it because of the coach 1096 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,640 or in spite of? Who knows? 1097 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,680 But I just the ick factor. Let's move away from that. 1098 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,240 It's a resolution. OK, resolution resolved. 1099 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,800 Yeah, and the last one. Shorter tour, no more playing in 1100 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,720 December. Shut it all down. 1101 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,480 Shut it all down. I. 1102 00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:42,880 Can't think about it. Yeah, do it for me. 1103 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,160 If not for arresting the players. 1104 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,160 I've said this before also, they just need to talk to any 1105 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,560 economist. It's supply and demand. 1106 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,760 If we are constantly being fed new things, the demand will go 1107 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,320 down make us hungry. An NFL fan has to wait five 1108 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,560 months for any action. They are chomping at the bit. 1109 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,380 They are maniacs for that first opening weekend or even pre 1110 00:55:03,380 --> 00:55:05,320 season. We don't, we don't get any build 1111 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:06,640 up. We're just like oh fuck, oh 1112 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:07,760 fuck, we're OK. We're late. 1113 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:12,880 We're already late to Brisbane, you know, so OK last game and 1114 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,560 then we're wrapping up folks. It's about resolutions, and 1115 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,880 we're calling it New Year's resolution because some of these 1116 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,720 players don't know what's good for them. 1117 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,160 And what we're going to do is we're going to match players to 1118 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,360 different resolutions because the only answer is chaos. 1119 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:32,200 So we've got six players and six resolutions, and I've loaded 1120 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,840 them into our patented New Year's resolution randomizer. 1121 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,440 And So what we're going to do is we're going to go one player at 1122 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,040 a time and I'm going to hit the randomizer and we're going to 1123 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,640 find out what their resolution is going to be. 1124 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:48,840 So, so the players that we have are Danielle Collins, Jasmine 1125 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:55,840 Paulini, Coco Goff, Daniel Medvedev, Carlos Alcaraz and 1126 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,360 Jack Draper. Interesting. 1127 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,880 Choices, you know, because they all need, they all need 1128 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,040 something, They all need something. 1129 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,880 So, but I'm not going to tell you what all the resolutions 1130 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,440 are. So I'm going to randomize it and 1131 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,520 I'm going to hit go. Right now it is thinking this 1132 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,960 player will switch nationalities. 1133 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,960 We who are the players? Daniel Collins, Jasmine Palini, 1134 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,320 Coco Goff, Daniel Medvedev, Carlos Alcaraz or Jack Draper. 1135 00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:28,080 I don't know Danielle Collins. Danielle Collins, OK, what's she 1136 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,720 going to become? She'll marry a foreigner or 1137 00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:31,800 something. Yeah. 1138 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,800 Oh, she'll have like her Princess Grace. 1139 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,800 She'll become like a manganese. Yeah, I don't think she's going 1140 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,440 to push nationalities and play tennis. 1141 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,720 I think she's going to marry like a New Zealand rugby player. 1142 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:48,800 Oh, she, she and a New Zealand rugby player that, that tracks. 1143 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,560 OK, the next one, well, very much in line. 1144 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:57,440 This player will get married in 2026, so we're down to Jasmine, 1145 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,320 Coco, Daniel, Carlos or Jack. Daniel Medvedev is married. 1146 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:02,840 So he's. Yeah. 1147 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,760 Shit, that should have been Danielle Collins. 1148 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,280 I mean, they're all so young. Baby's getting married. 1149 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,240 Yeah, well, Daniel got married when he was super. 1150 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,360 Young oh, Jasmine Pellini. She'll get married. 1151 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,680 Is she gay? I I think she might be, doesn't 1152 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:19,600 she? There's. 1153 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,240 I thought she was. Maybe there's a rumor of dating 1154 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,160 her double S. Sarah, Ronnie. 1155 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,160 Yeah, get married. Oh, my God, if they got married. 1156 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,560 Oh, my God. Yeah, we'll have them on the 1157 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:33,800 show. OK? 1158 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,840 This player will gain some muscle this year and we're down 1159 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,240 to Coco, Daniel, Carlos and Jack. 1160 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,040 Daniel. Daniel Levidev, he needs to bulk 1161 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,240 up a little bit. Did you see his haircut though? 1162 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,520 Yes. So cute, so cute. 1163 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,520 His dimples are popping with the shorter hair he looks. 1164 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,480 He gets a muscle though. He he could use, he could use 1165 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:58,520 just a little bit of muscle. OK, the next one, this player 1166 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,840 needs to retire in 20260. No, we're down. 1167 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,760 Yeah, y'all Collins, the answer to all of. 1168 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,320 These I know I that was who I was thinking when I did that 1169 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,720 one. But so we're down to coca. 1170 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,400 Thinking up about switch nationalities. 1171 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,840 Oh, maybe Danielle. OK, but we're down. 1172 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,520 We're down to Coco. Look, this is the game. 1173 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,560 Coco Carlos or Jack Jaaper? Jack Jaaper. 1174 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,000 He's gonna retire this year. OK, OK, OK. 1175 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,200 I mean, honestly, he's so injured, he's not playing. 1176 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,920 I know, and also I don't like him so that's great. 1177 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,800 Yeah, OK. Next one we're down to Carlos 1178 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,880 and Coco. This player needs to get new 1179 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,600 sponsors. Carlos Carlos. 1180 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,120 Australian Open kit. Yeah, that's rough. 1181 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,360 Yeah. The Yankees been doing him dirty 1182 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,800 for a while. Filthy awful. 1183 00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,040 Yeah, well, and the last resolution this player needs to 1184 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:52,800 get a new coach. Well. 1185 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,080 And we're down to Coco Go. So we got there at the end. 1186 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,120 We got and you know what, I see this for all of them. 1187 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,560 I think that that each of these could change their outlook for 1188 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,440 2026. So tuned back in in December 1189 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,280 2020, the 6th, to see how to see what was. 1190 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,080 Correct. Exactly. 1191 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,560 Candle Collins defection to another country. 1192 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,720 To New Zealand, yes. Carlos Alquist canceling his 1193 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,520 lucrative Nike contract. Coco Goff has fired her coach, 1194 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,800 Candy Goff. And yeah, coaches later, that 1195 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,160 one's coming true. And what's Daniel Medvedev 1196 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,440 doing? He's gaining weight. 1197 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,240 You know what? Yes, I think. 1198 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,640 I think we got them all right. I just he was getting muscle, 1199 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,760 not weight. Well, you know, whatever he's 1200 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,720 just going to, he's going. To different things. 1201 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,720 He's going to just big back out. And you know what? 1202 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,520 God bless. Actually, you know what? 1203 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,040 I love a little pudge. I would love to see Daniel 1204 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,160 Medvedev with a potbelly. Just 6 foot 7 and a little 1205 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,280 potbelly. Yeah. 1206 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:56,960 And you know what? If they don't keep these 1207 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,360 resolutions, it's on them because that's resolutions are a 1208 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,040 personal thing. But we're telling them what they 1209 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,920 should be so. We chose them for them. 1210 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,920 They got to do it. We did OK. 1211 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,800 Well, you know what, Ivy? That's our show. 1212 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,360 We did it. Huge, huge pleasure to have you 1213 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:12,800 on. I'm so excited to start the year 1214 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,560 and I can't wait to start getting into the season. 1215 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,160 I know it's going to be a lot and you're coming back. 1216 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,400 We're going to have some fun in store for Indian Wells and the 1217 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,480 Sunshine Double. We'll start talking about that 1218 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,160 soon. And then up next on the pod, we 1219 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,320 are heading down under for all the tennis that can be squeezed 1220 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,480 into two weeks because the Australian Open is starting in 1221 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,120 two freaking weeks. Until then, our balls are going 1222 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,040 back in the can. Thank you everybody. 1223 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,280 Happy New Year and we'll see you real soon. 1224 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:38,400 Bye.