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Hey everybody. 
Welcome to the latest episode of

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ball, boys. 
We are the gayest tennis 

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podcast, and Spain legalized gay
marriage. 

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I'm Paul monk home. 
One of your hosts. 

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On today's episode, we have 
loads to talk about. 

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Hmm, you know how we're always 
making fun of Brad Gilbert for 

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how he pronounces names. 
Well, we're putting our money 

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where our mouths are with our 
own spelling bee that were 

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calling spells Like Teen Spirit 
and we're also going digging for

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Spanish gold since it's that 
time of year where everyone's 

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Flocking to Spain. 
Well, besides the circuit 

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parties in stitches and as 
always, I'm here with my 

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co-host, Billy Hanson. 
The best wingman for any foam 

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party that you go to. 
Hey, Billy. 

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How's it going? 
I don't know Paul. 

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It's been a lot these past 
couple weeks. 

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Yeah. 
What's going on? 

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Well, first of all, you 
critiqued my massage skills on 

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Friday night which honestly, I'm
still reeling from that. 

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I think I give good massages and
you claim that minor their 

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Pinchy and they're put Pointy. 
It's like what's the saying? 

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It's like all hand and no fist 
or all finger and no, no tongue.

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Like it was just I have long 
thought that I was good at 

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giving massages and so 
listeners, I'm open to your DMs.

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If you want a massage, I need I 
need to prove to Paul that he's 

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the exception to the rule, okay?
But I don't think just give 

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these massages away with 
listeners, you will get a 

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massage. 
If you subscribe to the ball 

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boys and he goes five stars, 
even if Billy gives you a 

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two-star massage, which honestly
is what you're going to get. 

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The podcast is going to get five
stars, okay? 

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People? 
Yes, yes, it is a condition. 

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Yeah, well, let's just jump 
right in, right? 

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Let's see. 
I'm a little, your haircut is 

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looking amazing. 
It is the perfect. 

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T' sort of surfer, Boy, Meets, 
and Haitian 2002. 

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Like, yeah, well, I wanted to do
something for Pride. 

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Yeah, no. 
And you're doing a lot for 

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Pride. 
So keep up. 

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Keep up the good work. 
You're doing the work as they 

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say in it to win it. 
Yeah. 

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All right. 
So let's just jump right in 

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because like you said there's 
been a lot going on the last few

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weeks and so as always we're 
gonna start off with the 

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shrieking meter or basically to 
sum up this state. 

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Of the tour with our shrieks. 
So Billy I'm going to ask you 

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first. 
Hmm. 

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What's your shrieking M for the 
last couple weeks since we saw 

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each other? 
Well, you ready? 

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Yep. 
What's that about? 

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I mean I was trying to give you 
like a real guttural, clay red 

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clay grunt hmm because I love 
the clay season. 

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Yeah, why do you like it? 
Well, sorry. 

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Why do you love it? 
Getting dirty, getting down into

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the nitty-gritty. 
Getting into the trenches. 

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There are also so many beautiful
venues during the clay season. 

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We get to bounce from Monte 
Carlo to Stuttgart beautiful 

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venue to Madrid Barcelona. 
Now, are we allowed to objectify

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then use in 2023? 
I feel like you're just putting 

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a lot of emphasis on looks. 
I think we can still objectify 

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venues. 
Yes. 

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Okay, fine. 
Because I agree, that's really 

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gonna are they trying to? 
I mean, if the venue is trying 

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to sell, it's pathetic, I think 
it's asking to be objectified so

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they were asking for it based on
what they're wearing. 

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Yeah. 
Wow. 

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Okay, folks, we're going back in
time, apparently. 

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Yeah. 
No, I totally agree. 

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I love it. 
Also, I noticed how quickly use 

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the word love. 
You can't say you love certain 

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things to me Billy, but you can 
say, you love clay court. 

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So I'm just going to, I'm going 
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counselor next week. 
Well, so my shrieking M, it's 

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very similar. 
I was trying to practice it 

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earlier in the bedroom. 
You might have heard me. 

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But I was, it's the, it's a and 
that's the closest I can get. 

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Were you practicing? 
Because you were ill with like, 

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did you have the flu or 
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Well, you have given me a cold 
like let's just, let's just be 

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honest. 
As folks like there's okay, 

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there's there was a conduit, it 
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I there was someone in between 
us who haven't worn a conduit 

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since the 90s. 
I found a condom in my hair. 

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You found it in your hair. 
I wish it weren't true Paul. 

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But yeah, I found a conduit in 
my hair last used. 

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Conduit is that? 
Why you got a haircut? 

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No, not I kid you not. 
I I don't even wish. 

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I wish I were kidding. 
But back to tennis, okay? 

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Folks. 
Sorry about that. 

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I also love the clay season, 
it's just, it's so weird. 

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And so funny, and there's a 
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There's a gracefulness to it and
I just can't help but think 

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about like, this is one of the 
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interesting. 
Could you imagine if a third of 

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the way through the basketball 
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They're like, okay, now you guys
are going to play on dirt, okay?

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Okay, go play on grass now, it's
just, it's sad, it's a different

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beast and And it's pretty 
amazing to watch people. 

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Go just go from surface to 
surface and it's like, well, now

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I know how to slide like. 
I'm an ice skater. 

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But have you ever played tennis 
on like would like on like a 

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basketball court type surface? 
Now there are courts on that 

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surface. 
Yeah, that's really fun. 

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The ball moves real fast, like 
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And it's always, of course, 
indoors Echoes are great. 

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I love an echo because it makes 
you feel like you're hitting it 

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twice as hard. 
Oh my. 

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Oh my God. 
Yes, know, growing up. 

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There's this one. 
Place I played where the echoes.

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Great. 
And I was like, am I Jennifer 

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Capriati? 
I was hitting it. 

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So no. 
No. 

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Honestly, every other month. 
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Am I Jennifer Capriati? 
So that's par for the course. 

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But yeah. 
Now that's a tree. 

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I've never played, but have you 
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Yes. 
But never, I've never been good 

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on it. 
Like I've never gotten anywhere 

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close to Sliding successfully. 
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tiptoe. 
It's it can be hard to stop and 

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I might my socks have gotten Red
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because of the clay, but I've 
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learned to slide now, I never 
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I would run around as if it was 
a hard court. 

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You know, I only played on it a 
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I think I played in one 
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teens in New England that was 
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And again I was like am I a 
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Because I think oh I'm a clay 
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I'm a clay specialist now. 
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semi is because it was, you 
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But yeah it Barcelona Bumblebee.
That's what they called me. 

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Yeah because I ate all the tuna.
They're like, What's that fish? 

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So yeah, well anyway, so the big
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we last met. 
We're gonna talk about all of 

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them, but biggest was Madrid, 
Masters. 

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They just wrapped up today and, 
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lot about the Masters 
Tournaments and, you know, we 

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loved Indian Wells. 
Miami, mmm. 

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And that's curious what Is your 
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Where does it stack up with with
all the rest of the Masters? 

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Well, I might not be objective 
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have been there and it was part 
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That was a magical trip. 
A kaha mihika trip. 

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And so my so start. 
Now what is it? 

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It may be either magic. 
It's Mike, right? 

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Oh, I didn't. 
Okay, I didn't, I wasn't 

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catching your accent. 
No, that's what the the venue in

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Madrid is called. 
It's that's what that big box is

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called, The Magic House, the 
caja, mágica the magic house 

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that was my nickname in Scouts. 
Well. 

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Okay, well I did not know that 
because I I've never been to the

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Madrid Open. 
I absolutely would love to go if

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not even, they didn't hire you 
as a model back in the day. 

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No, I was too. 
So, during your male model, do 

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you were already getting paid 
too much, like you can bother 

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well that. 
So there's different types of 

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models. 
There's there's High fashion and

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Runway or they call them 
editorial and there's commercial

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catalog. 
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I think that Billy you might 
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Courtside model, but my agency, 
we didn't even, we didn't even 

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go out for those types of cast 
its lucrative because the tennis

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tour does not stop. 
So you're always getting Booked 

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because this tournaments need. 
You were you were the most. 

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You were like the Linda 
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2002. 
You changed her hair color, 

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every other tournament. 
You didn't get out of bed for 

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less than 10,000. 
Wait, this is actually a great 

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idea because like, we could 
follow like the ball models as 

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like a subcategory of fandom, 
like, we could be like, oh, did 

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you see what? 
Like You know, Lydia was wearing

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like or how like her new 
hairstyle like and she says, you

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know, Lydia we used to follow. 
Well, I did Linda Lydia like I 

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did like a there's no models 
named. 

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Lydia lesbiana this. 
Remember how we used to follow 

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lines people and now there are 
no more lines people but like of

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course like the lines woman who 
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Like I remember like spotting 
her like every tournament. 

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That was like a fun sub fandom 
like yeah I'm excited and you 

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sent her all of those. 
Like very constricting callers. 

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I don't know if there was a 
fandom or a restraining order, 

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but yeah, yeah. 
Well, I and I feel the same way 

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the I like, the Aesthetics of 
Madrid just watching on TV it 

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was very sort of brutalist 
architecture. 

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Yeah, their trophy also is very 
its kind of unmarked and 

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celebratory. 
Yeah. 

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It's like what does that Lord of
the Rings likes a little 

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dystopian. 
Yeah. 

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Like oh you just won the the AI 
dystopian future. 

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Open great select, quick recap 
of quick Winner's Circle of who 

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won. 
What? 

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Yeah, but we're going to do a 
speed round which it is the 

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opposite of a quaalude round, 
but it's going to be just sort 

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of rapid-fire. 
Our top, take away from each. 

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I've never had a quaalude. 
What? 

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I've never had one. 
I want to, I want one. 

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Have you seen your hair cut? 
That that haircut screens 

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Quaaludes, it's a loot. 
It's a loody loody z area. 

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Well, I feel like you've been 
arrested for lewdness Quaaludes,

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not far away. 
So, should we start? 

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Why don't you start us with 
Barcelona, Paul Barcelona 

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barthelona? 
Yes, I have been to Barcelona 

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not about alone open, but I've 
been to the Buffalo NE other 

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things and no real surprises at 
Barcelona. 

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Alcaraz stadium is pretty 
rickety looking. 

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I will say, in terms of like 
Aesthetics, that stadium looks 

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like it's a about to fall over. 
Yeah, one strong. 

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Like you know, history has just 
been a doll. 

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Is that what they call piston at
all? 

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Or something like that? 
Or it's like something about the

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doll cork. 
Yeah. 

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It's, it's not, it's not going 
to win any awards once, you 

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know, you think for something 
named after an adult like why? 

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I know he's more sort of 
Mediterranean but I'm surprised 

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at the Madrid. 
Open is not more named after 

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their doll then barthelona, but 
I know there's also politics 

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there. 
Big takeaway alcaraz defended 

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his title for the first time so 
that Barcelona was the first 

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time he's defended a title, 
which I was at least 12 he's 12.

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Hey, they're gonna be a lot of 
Firsts for him. 

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Yeah. 
No. 

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Well, because any followed up 
and he did it again with Madrid.

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But yeah, I was surprised just 
because even though, yeah, he 

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just, it's a reminder of his 
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you know, at Indian Wells, last 
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That was when we first really, 
got some, some alcohol. 

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Les on the radar has been a real
injection of excitement into the

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men's game so Chic. 
And so that was that was fine. 

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Interesting, although we looked 
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Instagram. 
Oh wow. 

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Yeah, we're he's rearranging his
water bottles. 

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Just like an adult like that was
that was a little bit jarring 

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because that's such a specific 
tick, you know what I mean? 

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Yeah, well that's the thing. 
Like we know that he's modeling 

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is game after the doll. 
I feel like He's an adult 

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Federer hybrid, honestly, he's 
because he's such a shot-maker. 

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Hmm, he's fettle. 
Yeah. 

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Or is the Rivalry all wrapped 
into one body? 

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Only rivalry has is with himself
1, CK underwear? 

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Yeah. 
But I didn't answer and with 

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those water bottles because it's
just like, okay, if you're gonna

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start doing that, what's next, 
are you gonna start doing like 

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the wedgie pick? 
Are you going to start? 

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It's like, girl, I was never, I 
never will be and I was never 

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mad at the wedgie pick. 
I wasn't mad at it but I, it 

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gets a little old. 
I'm fine, like I love caviar, 

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but am I going to have it for 
every meal? 

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Probably. 
But eventually I'm gonna get 

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tired of it. 
Are you? 

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That will be an experiment. 
We'll see. 

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We'll see listeners next episode
of Paul will have been on and 

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all Caviar diet and you will 
hear whether he's sick of it or 

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not and maybe it's maybe it's 
finally going to get me into my 

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summer body because Summer is 
almost here. 

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I know my tan lines Stuttgart. 
Yeah, I'm always a fan of 

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Stuttgart. 
I love like the random indoor 

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red clay. 
I love talk about brutalist 

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architecture. 
Like I like the Glam shots of 

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the players up on the screens, I
like the Porsche has on display.

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It feels like a very expensive 
tournament who I thought it was 

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a lot of fun. 
I thought you go looked great. 

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I thought the way she manhandled
that Porsche that she won, like 

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she drove it around. 
She Think was trying to scare 

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the ball kids like because she 
got really close to she almost 

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loud them over, but I think she 
was just so confident in her 

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driving agility that. 
I don't know. 

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She that was a real great 
advertisement for Porsha. 

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Okay. 
Yeah. 

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On Clay. 
We won't kill any children when 

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you do donuts, that's, that's an
old German saying, yeah. 

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The, the hood is like, when 
they're talking about 

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advertising, they always go back
to that, like, well, we could 

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always go with this. 
We won't kill children while 

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doing go nuts on Clay. 
Yeah, it rolls off the tongue in

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German, but I don't remember the
exact phrasing and she beat us a

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blank. 
All right, yes, which was a, you

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know. 
Obviously we haven't had this. 

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I think since like the early 
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playing each other in 
consecutive tournaments. 

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So yeah, it's gonna be going to 
win Madrid spoil. 

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Spoiler alert listeners Eagle, 
One Madrid. 

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I mean saw Blanco one Madrid. 
Sorry Real spoiler alert cooler 

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or Bill. 
He's drunk. 

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I I wish all. 
I'm not listeners, I'm not. 

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So it was, I do think that Sabha
Lanka winning Madrid created a 

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little bit more Intrigue to the 
story even though I wanted to go

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to win. 
Yeah, I agree. 

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I mean ego is someone that I'm 
always rooting for and I don't 

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know why. 
Because I don't actually like 

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her that much. 
I'm not that charm. 

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By her yet, but I really want 
her to win. 

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Maybe it's because of who she's 
playing against or just the 

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strong desire for like another 
dominant. 

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Serena type to come in and take 
over. 

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I think I appreciate that. 
She's kind of unapologetically 

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quirky like she kind of is who 
she is and she's not really 

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trying to be anyone else. 
I think that's kind of cool. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Well it took me unlike you she's

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afraid to try new hairstyle 
because that Ponytail in that 

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hat. 
I don't know who her stylist is,

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but he's not gay. 
I think let's let's try a short.

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Do he go? 
Let's try something short. 

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Yeah, or long or anything, 
besides the point hat? 

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Okay. 
Moving on eunuch. 

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So Munich Holger una one, Munich
against both Tech been designed 

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schloop, no, big surprise there,
no big highlights. 

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Although honestly, the player 
baby continues on he's the 

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little pleasure baby. 
Who always put little Co bit. 

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Yeah. 
But the The baby hog Arun. 

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So this time he sent his racket 
off in the final to get re-taped

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and it took a little longer than
he wanted it to. 

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And so he complained to the 
tournament director complain to 

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the Umpire, he had the racket 
brought back out, and then he 

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had his mother re-tape it, which
was just, it was okay. 

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She was sitting with coaches, 
she was sitting with his physio,

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she was sitting with all these 
people and she's retaping it. 

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If there were selling just like,
I think Runa is a mama's boy, 

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but not in like the big guy. 
Kid tradition, like in the like 

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an edible wild bratty, little 
polar bear. 

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Like his, his mom hasn't said 
he's never wrong. 

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He's never done anything wrong. 
He can't make he's, you know, 

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the gold only. 
He's Veruca Salt. 

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He wants him. 
I want an open loop and now, 

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daddy. 
Like he's not exactly Wonka and 

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it's like, well, spoiled little 
little Club. 

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A be there was the tournament 
Bosnia where Novak loss, which 

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is always a highlight. 
Light and we're happy for liya 

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vich. 
He beat rublev in the final. 

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Paul thinks he's a babe. 
Oh, he's such a babe, I'm doing 

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the research on this. 
He's got those eyes. 

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He's got the record of Slavic 
blue eyes that are just so 

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mesmerizing, like I'm believing 
car. 

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Looks like I think I might be 
crazy but he kind of looks like.

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Yes, I'm crazy. 
Aiden from Sex in the City, John

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Corp. 
No, no, it's coming back. 

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I can just like that. 
I can't wait. 

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Can you I know? 
I mean I can wait can't that's 

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the haircut? 
You got you got the che Diaz 

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that's exactly and that's what 
ego needs to be talked about 

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Madrid, right? 
Hold everyone. 

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What happened? 
Me Madrid was. 

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Yeah, as everyone predicted, it 
was a matchup between alcaraz 

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and stuff and in the final and I
had mixed feelings about Ian 

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Leonard stuff because he lost in
the qualities to Korat Civ and 

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it just feels weird to Be in a 
tournament where you lose and 

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you come back and it was funny 
because I actually played 

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corrosiveness Emmys because he 
was the lucky loser and then he 

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goes into the finals and he 
actually I gotta say he showed 

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up, he really had some great 
wins. 

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He he's got game that I didn't 
really realize and and I was 

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like, oh oh you've got the right
stuff and it's like you kids and

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I was like, oh uh oh uh oh uh oh
uh oh the right stuff. 

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That was that was going on in my
head, the entire tournament and 

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like I'm a fan of his gameplay 
and he took it to alcaraz, you 

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know, he got the three sets and 
he presented his matches where 

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you felt like like okay we the 
outcome is never in question 

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like never even when it's truth 
was winning the second set. 

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I was like okay so this is just 
going on like maybe maybe I'll 

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crash was like doing a favor to 
the I don't know, like the TV 

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people to, like, make the match 
a little longer. 

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I don't know. 
I just not about the outcome 

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wasn't out, but, you know, good 
first roof. 

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No in honestly. 
And this actually bothered me 

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about chakras, was that the 
first two games of the match? 

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He broke stuff right away, and 
he was up to love. 

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And so Strife had like a few 
good points and alcaraz kind of 

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like did like the heads up like 
yeah they're like kind of a 

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little too chivalrous like 
cheering on your opponent for 

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good shot because I think he 
thought he wasn't going to be 

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much of a match up and then 
Broken right back and I'll cars 

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like, oh crap. 
I actually have to beat this 

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guy. 
And it was, it was alcaraz was 

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not Untouchable today although 
his drop shot and this is the, I

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think that I'll crash as I love 
his game. 

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He relies on that, drop shot so 
much that if someone just works 

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on their wind Sprints a little 
bit. 

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No, no, no one's friends. 
Well, I think that because he 

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pushes players back and you 
never know. 

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Is going to drop shot, no matter
how fast you are. 

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It's really hard to get up to 
those. 

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And I mean, in some people, some
people might think it's a cheap 

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play, but it wins and points 
again and again, and again, 

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absolutely those. 
But he goes to that a lot like 

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it. 
I love it. 

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It's, I mean, it's kind of the 
way I play, so I shouldn't hate 

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it. 
I mean, I go for the cheap 

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shots. 
Like the number of times, I've 

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tied your shoe laces together, 
when we're changing ends, like 

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the way I've broken your racket.
Before allowing you to serve, 

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like look, I go for cheap shots 
but you grunt when I'm hitting 

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the ball. 
Yeah. 

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The number times have made fun 
of your haircut tonight. 

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Even though eautiful and I'm so 
honored that you let me cut your

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hair. 
Also, you know how I feel about 

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long hair? 
I think, you don't like long 

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hair, is that correct? 
I-i've tried to give you some 

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subtle hints over our 
relationship, last decade and a 

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half. 
But yeah, it's not, it's not for

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me. 
I okay, I'm just going to ask 

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Now, so there are some player, 
there's some people, can they 

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have long hair and you can still
be attracted to them? 

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Paul are there? 
There are some exceptions, of 

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course, but they are few and far
behind. 

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Am I one of those exceptions you
are far behind? 

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Now, you look, if you had a 
topknot, if you had a ponytail, 

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I would struggle. 
If it's if the hair is down and 

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laid nicely, not to jump ahead 
to the the Spanish gold, but 

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Feliciano López He so he's the 
term director of Madrid now and 

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he is just, I mean, I know he 
doesn't want to be called a 

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model, but he is a model. 
And I believe that models 

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deserve more representation than
what they get. 

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We don't get nearly enough 
attention as models and so he 

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and I as models, he is just 
stunning. 

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Like I said, I'm a model and 
he's a model and we're both 

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models, he's got longer hair 
than the normal guy, that I 

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would be attracted to two 
models. 

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If you're a model you can pull 
off the long hair, basically is 

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what you're saying. 
Models can do it, but no one 

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else. 
Yeah, it's kind of a model 

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saying you wouldn't really get 
it, but it's a models thing. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Okay. 

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That's good to know. 
Yeah, I definitely won't grow my

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hair long then should we get 
into our flops and Bops? 

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Because I feel like we're right 
on the cusp of our first Bob. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So so we've been talking a 

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little bit about models and if 
anybody tuned in to Madrid Open 

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and if you didn't, will tell you
about it now. 

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But they've got this really 
funny casting policy for their 

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ball girls and also apparently 
their ball boys. 

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But we'll talk about that. 
So question will, but they, I 

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mean, speaking of models and 
models represent representation,

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they cast models to be the ball 
girls at Madrid. 

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Open not for every match, but 
for certain matches because I 

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was watching and I was like, oh 
girl, here they are again. 

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They're in crop tops and bearing
the costs wearing the cost but 

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the clothing sponsor. 
Yeah. 

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Link sponsor. 
Yes but it's it's not the 

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regular ball girl outfit and 
it's like, no, that's a crop top

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showing like a lots of mid-drift
and a short skirt and mid-drift.

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Midriff mid-drift. 
Yeah, the my drift open. 

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That's where it comes from. 
There were Model ball boys, as 

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well for the women's matches. 
Yeah, you told me this and were,

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I know, you looked took a look 
at them and weren't sure that 

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they were models were in. 
Sure that they could pull off 

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long hair, but as I don't recall
seeing them on any catwalks, I 

447
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,900
was on right in the 90s. 
Oh my God, they weren't even 

448
00:24:20,900 --> 00:24:26,900
born then. 
So they so they did have there 

449
00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:29,600
were female models and male 
models. 

450
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,500
So people can't get really mad 
about the fact that they can't 

451
00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:38,000
say. 
Oh well they only had female 

452
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,400
model, you know models for the 
men's matches, right? 

453
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,100
But they Maybe get mad that the 
women were wearing crop tops in 

454
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:48,700
the men were wearing just a polo
and shorts like they weren't 

455
00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:51,500
wearing crop tops. 
Yeah it was like this. 

456
00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:54,900
There was a regular outfit. 
Yeah it's like give me a crop 

457
00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:56,200
top. 
Give me a short short. 

458
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,100
Give me a shirtless shirtless. 
You know canceling the top like 

459
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:04,100
let them get the tennis tan 
lines that you were job. 

460
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,100
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

461
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,300
Like that's that's beyond 
reproach. 

462
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:12,400
I mean it's sort of like it's 
kind of similar to maybe a few 

463
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,800
Years ago when they allowed 
coaching. 

464
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,800
But just for women it's just 
like, wait. 

465
00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:19,700
It's very like wait why is it 
different for the women in the 

466
00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:21,400
men? 
Like it just, it doesn't make 

467
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,900
any sense. 
Like especially we're talking 

468
00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:25,800
about Madrid which is such a 
progressive City. 

469
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,500
You know, like a big gay town. 
They would not be upset about. 

470
00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:32,300
Okay, I'll show off my muscles 
fine. 

471
00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:35,600
Yeah, they'd wear a little 
Lacoste harness. 

472
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:39,700
They would have you seen the 
Lacoste harnesses? 

473
00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:42,500
They are almost bought one hour,
strike agree. 

474
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,100
A grand on a low-cost harness. 
Yeah, worth it. 

475
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,800
Well to be dragged out of that 
store, you have to make up for 

476
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,400
all the low-cost polos that used
to wear at beige in New York 

477
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,500
City. 
When you had the double collars 

478
00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:57,300
popped, it was it was I did not 
have the double collars popped 

479
00:25:57,300 --> 00:25:59,800
now, dare you, I wore the 
Lacoste Polo but I did not have 

480
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,800
the double collars popped. 
Wow but you know what do you 

481
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,700
think my biggest beef with the 
models is I can't think of one. 

482
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:11,000
What is it? 
It's the heteronormativity Paul.

483
00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:15,600
So what do you like? 
Weren't there female models for 

484
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,500
the women's matches, why weren't
there male models for the men's 

485
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:21,600
matches? 
I what would Doric has it Kina? 

486
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,600
Have to say about this? 
What would janicoo Gabe? 

487
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,200
How would that have made him? 
Feel back in the day? 

488
00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:28,800
You know what a Tailor's for 
it's our favorite. 

489
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,800
Al I have to say about this or 
done, Daniel Taylor Swift denim,

490
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,800
a bit of should have not played 
his match. 

491
00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:38,000
If there weren't going to be 
some male models as ball people,

492
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,600
yeah, he should have drawn that 
line in the sand. 

493
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:46,100
That's the, the oppression. 
Is is is palpable. 

494
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:48,300
I personally don't have an issue
with it. 

495
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,600
I kind of I love the spectacle 
of it. 

496
00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:55,900
My thing is issue though, with 
the gendered element. 

497
00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:58,700
Like you wouldn't like a couple 
male models for the men's 

498
00:26:58,700 --> 00:26:59,700
matches. 
Come on. 

499
00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:01,900
No, it'll be sort of tracking, 
they'd be hitting on me. 

500
00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:04,300
It would be really annoying with
the women. 

501
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:06,400
It's like, come on. 
You don't have any girlfriends, 

502
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,400
like, I would if there's like 
some beautiful like statuesque 

503
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,300
woman like throwing the ball. 
I'd be like, this is fucking 

504
00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:13,000
amazing. 
Amazing. 

505
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,300
I love this and it's more just 
like I just think that if 

506
00:27:17,300 --> 00:27:19,200
they're going to have a 
spectacle make it a spectacle 

507
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,000
like give the guys sparkly like 
cut-offs. 

508
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000
Give yeah like that's what I 
want. 

509
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,700
But like who's throwing the 
ball? 

510
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:27,500
To me? 
Like I would love it. 

511
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:29,800
If it was a hot girl, a hot guy.
I know. 

512
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,600
That's what I'm saying. 
As long as their top to mix it 

513
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,000
up, lets lets, you know, show 
the straight kids, the gay, two 

514
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,700
kids, the queer kids, the 
everyone, every you know, 

515
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,900
non-binary kids, let's show 
them. 

516
00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:43,700
Let's get them all. 
While some examples. 

517
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,300
Yeah of hotness. 
Like we need more role models. 

518
00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:50,500
Who are hot that I think what 
they could there's a world where

519
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,500
because these are models and 
their modeling the clothing 

520
00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:59,000
sponsor for the tournament. 
There's a world where those 

521
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,000
model, those ball models, who 
are around and we see them at 

522
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,700
all the tournaments and they 
showcase The fashion weren't you

523
00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:14,100
a ball model. 
I was hmm, which one the right 

524
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:18,800
Bob? 
Oh yeah, those two, good luck. 

525
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,900
Yeah. 
Well I also have to say, I'm 

526
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,400
just happy that models are also 
getting slightly better 

527
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,800
representation in the media than
they were before. 

528
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,600
Because it used to be, like they
all had like Hollow bone disease

529
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,600
and like, they were like birds 
who could, you know, if they 

530
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,000
lifted a tennis ball, their arm 
would break. 

531
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,100
These girls and I guess, boys, 
train hard. 

532
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,000
They were really good. 
Yeah, they did it. 

533
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,700
They took it seriously. 
They were like, I mean it was 

534
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:47,200
wild. 
So you know how I'm changeovers.

535
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,500
You have to hold the umbrella 
over the player Hardin was like 

536
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:54,900
oh man these poor models must 
have been like wait, bitch, what

537
00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:57,400
you want me to like serve 
someone much? 

538
00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:59,200
How much do you think they got 
paid? 

539
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:06,100
I'm curious 100 euros. 
But the day I, I mean, 100 euros

540
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:08,500
for a master's in a while. 
But I mean, and that's like 

541
00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:11,900
before their agent and their 
mother agency and their own 

542
00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:16,600
sister agency takes their Cuts. 
So I would be, I would be 

543
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,000
surprised if they if they broke.
Even on the day they probably to

544
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,800
bring a bag lunch. 
All I have to say back to the 

545
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,000
outfits real quick. 
What the fuck happened in the 

546
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,800
final? 
Like suddenly these girls go 

547
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,500
from wearing crop tops and like 
Chic little skirts to like 

548
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:34,500
culottes or Gauchos or whatever 
still had crop tops. 

549
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:37,700
But they were wearing like 
culottes with like a built-in 

550
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:40,900
diaper and suitable. 
A so were the male models for 

551
00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:44,200
the women's final. 
They also were weirdly now in 

552
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,200
culottes. 
Yeah. 

553
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,800
Wait, what's the difference 
being a culotte in a gaucho? 

554
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,600
I don't know. 
I'll Google it after the show. 

555
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,300
Well, because I did Google it. 
They look exactly the same to me

556
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,600
and I just like wait which 
because they've all just fun 

557
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,200
words. 
I love the words. 

558
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:01,900
Oh couch or a lot Gaucho, who 
looks great. 

559
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:05,000
Oh my God, they called me Gaucho
marks and theater School. 

560
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,600
Dude, we have it do so that's 
one of our Bops is the models. 

561
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:12,100
What's G of a flop for us? 
Paul. 

562
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,000
Yeah, for me. 
Big flop. 

563
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,400
And we don't like, so we spend a
lot of time talking about 

564
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,700
models, which is the correct 
amount of time to spend real 

565
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:23,500
quick, though. 
Just Casper, rude. 

566
00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:26,500
There's been a rude awakening 
for him. 

567
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,700
Like I don't know if he's just 
waiting for the majors to come 

568
00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:31,000
around because he made two 
finals of the majors last year, 

569
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,000
but no, I don't think so either.
He had seen real nice drawers 

570
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,900
last year and made The finals. 
But hey, let's give a compliment

571
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,800
to Casper for being 
opportunistic, right? 

572
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,700
Oh, I've got a nice. 
I've got a nice. 

573
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:49,900
Well, if you got a cakey draw, 
let's let's take advantage of 

574
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:51,200
it. 
That's, that's a skill, 

575
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,100
especially for a tennis player, 
right to beat can the players 

576
00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:59,900
ranked below you, right? 
And he, he did that, and also 

577
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:02,200
he's kind of overachieving 
right? 

578
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,800
His game is not spectacular, but
he is really solid. 

579
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:08,100
It and that's also may be 
respectable. 

580
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:11,200
So II felt this. 
I felt like maybe he peaked last

581
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,300
year. 
I don't know how much more rude.

582
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:15,000
Might be a cell. 
Yeah. 

583
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,000
Oh, big salad because like, he's
so he only wins 250 tournaments,

584
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:22,400
he's never won a five hundred or
above and it's like that episode

585
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,300
of South Park from a couple 
years ago where I know this is 

586
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:27,600
very Niche reference but like 
they were playing World of 

587
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,000
Warcraft and they needed to get 
as meant. 

588
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,500
They need to level up to beat 
this one guy who was killing 

589
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:34,600
them all and so Cartman just 
went out and killed boars 

590
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:38,500
non-stop me killed. 
Millions of Bohr's to like lowly

591
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:40,400
get one point here. 
One point there. 

592
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,700
One point there. 
Did you do and that's what route

593
00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:44,400
as he goes out. 
He collects all these bore 

594
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,100
points because he goes out and 
he slays like oh the 19th ranked

595
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,400
player in the world like big 
fucking deal and he gets these 

596
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,400
points. 
But he is not like it makes me 

597
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,100
think that we need to question 
the ranking system a little bit 

598
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:58,300
just a little bit. 
I understand that slumps happen 

599
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:02,400
and this and that but he is not 
the third ranked player in the 

600
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,600
world right now but he is ranked
3rd at something like Madrid in 

601
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,200
its Screws up to draw because 
then suddenly like, oh wow, the 

602
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,000
draw opened up, and then we get 
some random. 

603
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,200
Like we had a, we had a freaking
semi-final of carazo versus 

604
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,000
stuff because rude, is ranked 
third? 

605
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,400
Well, maybe, what could happen 
is because I do think, you know,

606
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:22,900
players, go through little mini 
slumps in the doesn't mean that 

607
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:26,000
their achievements from a year 
ago, should just be ignored, 

608
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,300
right, from a ranking 
standpoint. 

609
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:29,200
Because that doesn't mean that 
they recently accomplished 

610
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,400
something years, a relative, the
recent, you know, a relatively 

611
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,500
short amount of time but maybe 
More recent points are like 

612
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,400
doubled or something like that. 
So like you know the points 

613
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,800
you've got us two three months 
somehow get Dumbledore or the 

614
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:47,900
points that you had before they 
get have something like that. 

615
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,600
Yeah, if I was being judged 
today based on what I did, a 

616
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:57,100
year ago being jail, in fact, my
court dates coming up but yes, 

617
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,900
it's just it's ridiculous. 
Like in college basketball, you 

618
00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:02,300
change your ranking every week 
based on, you know, if you've 

619
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:04,600
won or lost a few games, it's 
just it's just how it's done. 

620
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,400
It, it feels He's too long of a 
window and we just I love that 

621
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,400
idea of like, maybe your points 
degrade a little bit. 

622
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,100
I know you love being degraded 
and to do. 

623
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:17,000
Yeah. 
And I also, yeah, maybe that's 

624
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,200
an idea, but people also love to
dramatize. 

625
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,700
The fact that a player's ranking
can be totally tied to like one 

626
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:27,500
event. 
Like I remember when Roddick on 

627
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:28,900
Oahu. 
I know you wanted to talk about 

628
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:31,400
on this episode. 
Who's won the US? 

629
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,700
Open back in 2021, everyone was 
counting down. 

630
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,500
The days to, you know, the end 
of the US Open 2222 and she 

631
00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:44,300
would lose all those points and 
go from like ranked 10th to 77th

632
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:46,100
and that can be, I guess kind of
fun. 

633
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:50,100
Yeah, see I don't I think that 
that kind of sucks because then 

634
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:52,000
it's sudden because that's too 
dramatic. 

635
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,200
It's like wait, you're telling 
me last week? 

636
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,500
I was like the 10th best bitch 
in the world and now let me 

637
00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:58,800
seventh like that's that's also 
in take, it should be it's a 

638
00:33:58,808 --> 00:34:00,300
mile is a bit of a mind. 
Fuck. 

639
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:01,000
Yeah. 
Players. 

640
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,900
The way it's drugs are observe 
after Madrid is out of the top 

641
00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:08,000
20 for the first time in years, 
Because of, you know, the the 

642
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,600
point system because he was 
injured, it's just like these 

643
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,699
ranking systems don't make 
sense, they don't work. 

644
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,100
Any other flops are bobs for 
you. 

645
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:19,000
Okay, I got one other little 
flop. 

646
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:24,300
So we had that week where we had
the turnip, turnip the turnip, 

647
00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:26,400
you know, that root vegetable 
week. 

648
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:30,600
We have the the week, where we 
had the tournaments in Munich in

649
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,300
Barcelona in Bosnia and in 
Stuttgart, you know, all the 

650
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:37,600
same week and In a way. 
It felt like, oh my gosh, I 

651
00:34:37,607 --> 00:34:41,900
don't keep up with all this but 
much, you know, the each 

652
00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:45,000
tournament managed to boast a 
really solid field. 

653
00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:47,699
And so, we were getting great 
matchups all the way through to 

654
00:34:47,699 --> 00:34:50,199
the final. 
So, you have four finals in one 

655
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:55,000
day and you would think that the
tumors and the tournaments could

656
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,800
at least coordinate so that you 
weren't watching three of those 

657
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,700
four finals at the exact same 
time. 

658
00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:02,400
I mean, just think about the 
television viewer. 

659
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,700
That's a lot of money, right? 
Give them a product. 48 hours, 

660
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:10,900
straight versus like having to 
jump from match to match over. 

661
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,600
Two hours. 
I just felt like why are the 

662
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,100
finals happened in the same 
time? 

663
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,700
Let's, let's do a little bit 
better. 

664
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:20,200
Especially we've got somewhat 
different time zones so we can 

665
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,000
play with that, right? 
Yeah. 

666
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,300
I thought it was a marketing 
fail. 

667
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,500
So that's a flop for me. 
Yeah, well, and I agree, and I 

668
00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:30,900
think, I think this may be 
smaller is tournaments, didn't 

669
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,900
used to have such great Fields, 
like, it's kind of crazy that I 

670
00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:38,500
think the polite Clay, they're 
excited for to get all the clay,

671
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,800
they do, but Bosnia and 
Herzegovina had Djokovic, Andrew

672
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,100
blob. 
Like those are. 

673
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:46,400
Those are not folks who 
generally play. 

674
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,200
I love her to go this game. 
Daniela. 

675
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,500
How are you doing my favorite? 
She was in my favorite players. 

676
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,200
Yeah, no exactly. 
Bosnia's backhand as a joke, but

677
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,700
they've got really solid solid 
drawers, and that's not how it 

678
00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:04,500
always was. 
I think it used to be like, God,

679
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,200
who cares when it's like 50 
versus 100 like, right? 

680
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,000
But yeah, you're right, you're 
right. 

681
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,900
So those were our flops and Bops
and I think the main lesson that

682
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:17,400
we've learned today is how 
important models are to the 

683
00:36:17,408 --> 00:36:21,200
future of tennis and I hope that
they continue to lead us into 

684
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,900
the future and we'll be right 
back with our next segments. 

685
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,000
All right, we're back everybody.
We just had a nice little 

686
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,300
massage break. 
I can't think of anything better

687
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:38,700
to segue into our next segment 
of outfits and outbursts. 

688
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,800
It's yes. 
Favorite time of the podcast to 

689
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,600
really get into what's 
important, which is what people 

690
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,600
are wearing and when they're 
acting like little babies. 

691
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:52,800
So we've got a few to go through
because there's been so much 

692
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,400
going on in the tennis world. 
So first, we've got our good 

693
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,900
friend daniil Medvedev. 
Who again has really, really 

694
00:37:00,900 --> 00:37:03,200
embraced his quirky side this 
year. 

695
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,600
He's really come back into 
himself, which is hard to do. 

696
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,000
It's hard to come back into 
yourself. 

697
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:12,600
Mmm. 
Oh could, but he was playing, 

698
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,200
Aslan corrective who decided to 
come out of nowhere again this 

699
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:22,300
year and actually be a player 
and he lost to him and he sat 

700
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:25,700
down during the tiebreak because
the Spanish crowd was being too 

701
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:29,300
loud and booing him too much and
he would not play again until 

702
00:37:29,300 --> 00:37:33,400
the the Umpire got them to quiet
down that never works. 

703
00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:39,300
Are you sure that I feel like 
people known Medvedev likes to 

704
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:43,100
be Ubud that like, it actually 
makes him feel good and so 

705
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:46,700
they're booing him and kind of a
massaging, kind of way. 

706
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:49,600
Like, they're kind of booing 
him, but it's their way of 

707
00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:55,100
giving energizing him and making
him feel relaxed and really stop

708
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:58,100
trying to make the massage 
happen. 

709
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:01,800
It's just, I don't know. 
I think it's like, love booing 

710
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,400
with love doing of love and, and
it's, there's nothing wrong with

711
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,600
that. 
It's like that Simpsons episodes

712
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,200
when mr. 
Burns was like, are they saying,

713
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,300
boo, Or boo. 
Who earns? 

714
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:17,000
Boo Edvard AB Medvedev. 
That's what. 

715
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:22,400
Exactly, exactly. 
So of course, we had an outburst

716
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,200
from Genie Bouchard. 
Hey, Jeanie, welcome back, she's

717
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,700
29. 
Now, I'm a Genie in a Bottle, 

718
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:34,500
baby. 
She's qualified for Madrid and 

719
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,400
she beat Diana is dream School 
in the first round. 

720
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,800
And she tweeted something like 
there's Something about beating 

721
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,300
dopers in Madrid and she was 
referencing, not only just 

722
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:47,600
beating his Transco but also 
having beaten Maria Sharapova in

723
00:38:47,607 --> 00:38:50,200
2017. 
After sharapova's ban, it was a 

724
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:55,200
very close match and kind of a 
dramatic match and Bouchard had 

725
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,500
some Choice words for Maria in 
the press conference afterward. 

726
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:02,100
I don't know. 
I kind of like Bouchard. 

727
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:05,100
Well, first of all, I find out. 
You do you strum strum the 

728
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:08,800
Yastrzemski story a little bit 
Peculiar. 

729
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,600
Because the way she got out of 
her doping violation, was by 

730
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:22,000
saying that she ingested, the 
banned substance that she 

731
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,900
ingested it, because there was 
something that her boyfriend 

732
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:29,800
really spit it out. 
Or don't spit her boyfriends, 

733
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,700
come had, the prohibited 
substance in it and she ingested

734
00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:39,700
it so much that she so much. 
Yeah, that's that's why she, 

735
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,800
that's why she tested positive. 
So I mean it's an interesting 

736
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,400
doping case and I didn't mind 
Bouchard's. 

737
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:54,600
Kind of petty caddy tweet, but 
she issued an apology rights. 

738
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,700
Take it back though because it 
went against the code of 

739
00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:57,900
conduct. 
Yeah. 

740
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,100
Yeah. 
You know, outfits are outbursts.

741
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:06,300
So the last last outfit now 
purse, I think we would not be 

742
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:11,500
ballboys if we Didn't at least 
talk about the Met Gala for a 

743
00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:13,600
quick second because there was a
fair amount of tennis 

744
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,300
representation, well, as long as
it's going to be run by Anna 

745
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:19,400
Wintour, there's going to be 
tennis representation because 

746
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,400
she loves her tennis. 
She is a notorious ball boy. 

747
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:26,200
Yeah, so we had Beretania showed
up looking as gorgeous as ever. 

748
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:31,100
I mean, talk about a snack, talk
about an Italian Stallion talk 

749
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:33,500
about get behind those calves. 
I'm sorry. 

750
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:36,600
I hate to get so specific. 
If those calves came up to you 

751
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,500
in the bedroom, You would you be
like, okay I'm behind you, you 

752
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:42,700
get behind them so fast. 
I would. 

753
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,600
I mean we would see you because 
their caps are so thin, but you 

754
00:40:45,607 --> 00:40:49,200
would get behind them. 
They're really good hiding spot 

755
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,600
for hide-and-seek. 
It is the worst hide and seek is

756
00:40:51,607 --> 00:40:53,300
here. 
Scoffs can't hide behind those 

757
00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:56,400
caps thinking things. 
You can hide behind though, is a

758
00:40:56,408 --> 00:41:00,800
baby bump and yeah, Serena, she 
is going to have a doubles team 

759
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,900
soon. 
So she is now pregnant with her 

760
00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:05,200
second baby. 
So all those teasing about her 

761
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Court in the backyard. 
Well, She's not that back 

762
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,600
anytime soon, everybody probably
never. 

763
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,300
So that's fine. 
Honestly, it's 41. 

764
00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:19,900
I like okay. 
So you know, given given the 

765
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,800
advances we've had an aging, I 
could see a world where someone 

766
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,500
like Serena comes back at 45 and
he's just like, you know what? 

767
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,300
I feel like playing a couple of 
tournaments, and with every 

768
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:33,400
Tournament of like, yes, ma'am, 
please, I could see it 

769
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,900
happening. 
Oh, I could see it happening and

770
00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:39,600
I could you see her coming back 
of 45 and winning. 

771
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,800
You really think that could 
happen like winning more than a 

772
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,700
match or two more than a match 
for to, I don't know. 

773
00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:50,400
But I think she could have some,
some good matches and I would, I

774
00:41:50,408 --> 00:41:51,900
would like to see just it was 
like, one. 

775
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:54,500
Martina Navratilova was like, 
no, I'm going to keep playing. 

776
00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:58,900
I'm 50. 
I like to kick and scratch and 

777
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:02,700
kick. 
I think we can go on to our next

778
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:06,400
segment. 
Now Spanish gold, all these 

779
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,800
tournaments are in Spain right 
now. 

780
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,800
It is the clay Court capital of 
the world and considering the 

781
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:17,000
number of points and the amount 
of high-profile players that 

782
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,000
have come out of there. 
We just thought, hey, let's talk

783
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:26,000
about Spain and what makes them 
so dominant in this one part of 

784
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,500
the of the sport because Spain 
doesn't really We do a ton 

785
00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:35,200
outside of the clay but they 
are, they are always Fielding a 

786
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,200
great team. 
I mean, alcaraz won the US Open 

787
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,400
last year and Roth has won 
several non clay majors and I 

788
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,100
mean, can you boost for rare? 
I'll be, I'm just saying, OK, 

789
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:49,400
after those first two names, 
your list of free flowing, 

790
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,600
reaching severely fell off, 
they'd at least no one grass. 

791
00:42:54,700 --> 00:43:00,400
Verdasco on hard. 
I mean, David feau Cana on on 

792
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,500
bow hair buns. 
Yeah, there's no there's a lot 

793
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:09,100
of talent but that Talent when 
it goes off the Clay is diluted.

794
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:13,000
By is a lot of other countries. 
The telling me really flourishes

795
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,000
on the clay. 
I'll give you that. 

796
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,900
They're just like, oh Leigh and 
they just get it and I was just 

797
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:19,500
curious like why why do you 
think it is? 

798
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:21,200
Like why are they so good at 
clay? 

799
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,100
Well, I think There are a lot of
clay courts in Spain so they 

800
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:31,800
that's the that's the surface. 
There's a lot of clay there. 

801
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,000
Yeah. 
So when they grow up playing 

802
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,300
tennis, they're playing on Clay,
whereas say, in the United 

803
00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:44,200
States there's more hard courts 
in the UK, there's more rain in 

804
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,500
Canada, there's more indoor, 
basketball courts. 

805
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:52,200
Well, I mean, I think we do need
to talk a little bit about the 

806
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,000
most famous play. 
Layer Rafa. 

807
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,400
Yeah, I'm case you didn't know. 
So Rafa he's pulled out of Rome 

808
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:03,400
and I don't know, is he going to
play Roland Garros? 

809
00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:08,100
I have no idea, that would be a 
real move, and that's not 

810
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:09,700
typical of rafah to kind of come
at. 

811
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:12,400
That's a Serena move, right? 
Is like to come out from like, 

812
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,500
of no, we're not having played 
for a few months or six months 

813
00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:19,200
and win a tournament for Rocket.
If he comes in wins Roland 

814
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,900
Garros, Like that would be an 
absolute, like, Mike drop, but I

815
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:31,700
don't that 7 match, three, out 
of five matches on clay with no 

816
00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:35,100
warm-up tournaments. 
That's unheard of but hey, what 

817
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:36,200
didn't? 
He doesn't think? 

818
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,100
They got something in the water 
and Spain. 

819
00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:41,000
Didn't you do something really 
similar last year for Australia.

820
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:44,000
He hadn't played for like three 
or four months and then he came 

821
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,000
in one, Australia. 
He was not knowing that he's 

822
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,900
going to do it and it was like, 
you're still, you still go here.

823
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,400
Ah and then he like went on his 
35 game for 35 match. 

824
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,200
Win streak? 
Yeah, could do it. 

825
00:44:59,207 --> 00:45:03,200
So I'm not going to put it past 
him but we'll see if he plays 

826
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:05,800
I'm worried. 
He's never going to play again. 

827
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:08,500
I'm worried that this is it and 
he's just actually. 

828
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:11,500
Oh it's like a soft like a quiet
quitting. 

829
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:17,100
I think he quite quit. 
I'm really I'm so Scared and 

830
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:19,300
sad. 
And like, I don't know what you 

831
00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:22,000
don't, so you're a fan of his, 
but you don't find them hot. 

832
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,300
I thought you only were fans of 
players you thought were hot 

833
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:29,000
now, because that would mean, I 
don't watch any of the women's 

834
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,600
tennis and I'm a huge fan. 
You know what, one of my 

835
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:38,300
favorite things about Spanish 
tennis has what they figure out.

836
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,000
Well, first of all, they're 
aging really well. 

837
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:46,000
Feliciano Juan, Carlos Ferrero. 
David Ferrer, verdasco. 

838
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,800
They are Being real well and you
know what Spanish tennis, the 

839
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,900
Federation does they figure out 
a way to keep our eyeballs on 

840
00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:55,200
these guys as even after they 
retire. 

841
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,100
So Juan Carlos is an Alcatraz is
box look great. 

842
00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:02,100
And Feliciano is in the Madrid 
like he's the tournament 

843
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:06,800
director and he's just like you 
know he's look some model and 

844
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,000
David Ferrer got finally has his
haircut working for him and oh 

845
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,900
man I suffer are in the stands. 
And I was like wait that's David

846
00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:16,300
Ferrer because he was never you 
know what? 

847
00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:17,700
Because you He's Teflon here on 
tour. 

848
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:22,800
He he's always a little frumpy, 
he was a little frumpy and I 

849
00:46:22,808 --> 00:46:26,700
think it was a lotto or Diadora 
some brand really did him dirty 

850
00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:29,100
doing him any favors and he 
looks good. 

851
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:32,200
Like I was like oh okay work. 
Yeah. 

852
00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:34,300
It's a while he got a few 
highlights. 

853
00:46:34,300 --> 00:46:36,800
I think like a subtle 
highlights. 

854
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,400
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

855
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:40,700
Yeah I think he went to your 
Barber. 

856
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,100
Yeah. 
It's a Sheikh. 

857
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:45,900
He for Pride. 
Yeah. 

858
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,100
I am Juan Carlos, so it's when I
saw, I remember how when I 

859
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:53,900
forgot this, like, I had such a 
little crush on one Carlos when 

860
00:46:53,900 --> 00:46:56,100
he was, when he was number one 
in the world, and was playing in

861
00:46:56,107 --> 00:46:59,700
the US Open, I saw him playing 
and I wouldn't stop yelling. 

862
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:02,900
Come on one Carlos, come on one 
close the point, where this guy,

863
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:04,300
who's sitting printer, just 
like, turn on. 

864
00:47:04,300 --> 00:47:07,900
Just looked at me because I was 
just like I was a big Juan. 

865
00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:10,100
Carlos van. 
Oh yeah. 

866
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:13,000
It was. 
Was it a look of like just 

867
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,400
you're being too loud or you're 
being too gay being? 

868
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:19,800
Too desperate. 
He's like girl, you gotta play 

869
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:24,300
hard to get. 
Shall we move on to our game? 

870
00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:26,800
Are we ready to play? 
Yeah, that's enough about. 

871
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,900
Thank you, Spain. 
Let's play our game. 

872
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:34,200
So we are going to play spells, 
Like Teen Spirit. 

873
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:38,300
In this game. 
We are spelling the names of 

874
00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:42,600
tennis players, which used to be
easy to spell in the days of, 

875
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,700
you know, Jimmy Connors and 
Billie Jean, King and Tracy 

876
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:49,600
Austin. 
But now, you know, tennis gotten

877
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,000
more, what the hell happened. 
Have to learn how to spell 

878
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,800
you're going to give me that. 
Chinese players name, aren't 

879
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,500
you? 
Oh no, I please don't Lena. 

880
00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:12,700
So we are going to be spelling, 
tennis players names and Paul is

881
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:16,600
going to have me spell the names
of men's players and I'm going 

882
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,100
to have Paul spell the name of 
women's names of women's players

883
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:22,600
and all these players have been 
into the quarterfinals of Recent

884
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:23,800
tournaments by recent 
tournaments. 

885
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,800
We mean we mean Stuttgart 
Barcelona Munich. 

886
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:32,200
Bosnia Madrid note that Paul has
or tournaments to choose from 

887
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,200
and Billy has only two. 
So poor because make this game a

888
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:43,400
little bit unfair, who's 
starting all, you know, because 

889
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,300
of your handicap. 
I'm going to give you a name 

890
00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:49,500
first so you can build an 
intimidating lead. 

891
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,400
Let me just look up the quicks, 
the spelling of that Chinese 

892
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,500
players name. 
Don't you get? 

893
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:58,000
No. 
No, but hands down hands down. 

894
00:48:58,500 --> 00:48:59,600
I see Billy. 
I didn't see it. 

895
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,800
I didn't see it. 
I didn't see it. 

896
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,500
I didn't see it. 
Wow I think I can do it. 

897
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:07,100
I think I got it but I think 
it's is it Zhang with an e and G

898
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:09,500
or nay sir sir. 
I haven't even asked you the 

899
00:49:09,508 --> 00:49:13,100
names yet. 
Okay, I didn't I didn't prepare 

900
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:15,700
for this at all. 
Okay, sure. 

901
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,300
Are you ready? 
Your first name? 

902
00:49:19,700 --> 00:49:24,300
Is Zhang jie Zheng? 
All right. 

903
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:27,600
Do I just have to spell the last
name or the whole we're just 

904
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:34,500
doing last names, just for so 
the last name is zhi zhi. 

905
00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:36,200
Lan. 
Yes. 

906
00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:40,400
Are you ready? 
Yes. 

907
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:47,400
Maria soccery last name, 
spelling Maria soccery and you 

908
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:55,300
use it in a sentence. 
Maria stalkery has not yet won a

909
00:49:55,308 --> 00:50:01,600
grand slam and we'll never win a
grant. 

910
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,300
What do you think? 
Do you think she'll win a grand 

911
00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:05,600
slam? 
No no she won't. 

912
00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:07,300
Okay and we'll never win a grand
slam. 

913
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,300
Oh so that's aakhri. 
Okay. 

914
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:14,800
So that is sa hey Kar. 
I correct. 

915
00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:18,700
Okay point for you, Paul. 
I knew you thought I was not 

916
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:22,600
going to do that. 
Well, honestly, what's 

917
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,800
interesting is, women are 
showing some consistency. 

918
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,600
So a lot of the same women who 
got to the quarters in 

919
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,800
Stuttgart, go to the quarters in
Madrid. 

920
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,600
Yeah. 
Now it's a nice change for them 

921
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:38,100
for those ladies, okay? 
The next name, stop, licking 

922
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:40,700
your phone. 
I see you looking at Women's 

923
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,000
stuff. 
No yours. 

924
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:49,000
Well like Maxim magazine. 
Next one is doosan. 

925
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:57,500
Levitch. 
Laj 0 V, IC o----, easy peasy 

926
00:50:57,500 --> 00:51:01,100
for you to pretend Paul. 
Can you ready? 

927
00:51:01,300 --> 00:51:05,200
Yes. 
Ons, djebbour, hmm. 

928
00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:08,200
My favorite clothing line is 
ons. 

929
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:10,900
I've always wondered like, why 
is she called ons? 

930
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:14,200
And not just on. 
There's only one of her but it's

931
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:19,400
it's just that's comedy gold, 
folks jib or J A B&E you are 

932
00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:25,200
Correct, three point. 
So we're tied honestly, the 

933
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,000
women who got to the quarters of
the determinant. 

934
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,200
They don't have hard to spell 
names. 

935
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,500
I feel like my spelling is more 
impressive. 

936
00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:36,500
Well that and a nickel will get 
you a shitty massage from Billy 

937
00:51:36,500 --> 00:51:39,400
Hanson's. 
All right, what's my third one? 

938
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,000
Paul. 
Next one is both tag then design

939
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,200
scallop. 
All right, and I assume vanda's 

940
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:59,300
and Shope is the last name. 
Hmm, be andevs81 Andy schul P. 

941
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:02,200
Yeah. 
All right. 

942
00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:07,800
Oh my gosh, I I think you're 
going to get this. 

943
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:13,200
In fact, I know you're going to 
get it, you're gonna get it, but

944
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:17,000
we're going to go with Hooter 
matoba. 

945
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:22,800
When you say that name again, 
Cooter matoba herder matoba? 

946
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:28,300
Hmm, Carter matoba, can I have 
the language of origin? 

947
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:36,000
Russian. 
Can I have the figure of speech?

948
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,400
Name, I haven't been in a 
spelling bee in a while, you 

949
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,100
know, Middle School. 
My the word that got me out of 

950
00:52:44,107 --> 00:52:48,900
the spelling bee was bikini, Oh,
really you spell it now it's all

951
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:52,200
I wear. 
I was like I think I spelled it 

952
00:52:52,207 --> 00:52:58,000
like Rebecca within why there 
was a y in there there was like 

953
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,400
a a there was a like Bucky knee.
I don't know. 

954
00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:05,600
It was a mess. 
When was that like how old were 

955
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,800
you? 
This was sixth grade. 

956
00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:10,700
Okay? 
And was that the end of your 

957
00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:12,800
spelling bee career? 
Yeah. 

958
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,500
And the beginning of my bikini 
modeling career, okay, it was 

959
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:18,900
like okay me and Pam Anderson 
were the only ones left? 

960
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:29,000
Okay, Carter muratova. 
Hey, you are what Yeah, I know. 

961
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,600
Yeah. 
D. 

962
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:41,200
ER, M ET OVA you said K you are 
as the beginning of it's not 

963
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,600
kurtter matoba it. 
Scooter matoba. 

964
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:46,100
I Got There was an r in there. 
No! 

965
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:48,200
Oh my God, Paul! 
Wow! 

966
00:53:49,300 --> 00:53:51,000
Wow! 
Wow! 

967
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,100
Are you did you, did you really 
think there was an are there, 

968
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:58,700
dude? 
Amitabha Amitabha. 

969
00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:01,100
That's in my mind. 
I hear kerger mottola. 

970
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:03,900
Hold on the table. 
It's like when I I think about 

971
00:54:03,900 --> 00:54:06,500
like you saying, the name is 100
current home. 

972
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,700
My other option was Haddad Maya.
What did you have gotten that, 

973
00:54:09,700 --> 00:54:12,000
right? 
Yeah, GG Haddad Maya. 

974
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,800
Yeah. 
Okay. 

975
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,400
Hadd a.d. 
Ma IA. 

976
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,400
Yeah, I'm glad I went with 
Kermit Ava. 

977
00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:24,900
Alright, so that was our 
spelling bee and Billy you 1. 

978
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,400
What do I get? 
What's my price? 

979
00:54:27,500 --> 00:54:30,200
You get one more chance to give 
me the proper massage. 

980
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:35,600
All right. 
Wow, I love it when I win. 

981
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:40,200
Okay, it's on yeah, great now. 
Yeah, you, you get to make me 

982
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,800
dinner. 
You know, that I like the more 

983
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,500
you tell me, I'm bad at 
something. 

984
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:46,800
The more I'm going to prove try 
and prove you wrong. 

985
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:49,400
So, keep telling me I'm bad at 
this. 

986
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,200
I'm going to keep massaging you 
So bad until you need money. 

987
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,200
You're so bad at driving me to 
the Piggly. 

988
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,400
Wiggly. 
Okay well so that's pretty much 

989
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,800
the end of our show. 
Folks, this has been episode 4, 

990
00:55:05,900 --> 00:55:08,100
we're going to close out real 
quick with some predictions 

991
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:13,300
Billy Roma's coming up next 
week, critical prediction who's 

992
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:14,900
going to eat the most pasta in 
Rome. 

993
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:24,500
I think it's going to be. 
I think Nadal is going to, he's 

994
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:27,500
not going to play and Rome, but 
he's going to eat a bunch of 

995
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:30,100
pasta. 
I love it, I love it. 

996
00:55:30,700 --> 00:55:33,800
I love it. 
Yeah, and for me it's it's 

997
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,600
Kermit Ava. 
Oh yeah. 

998
00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:41,400
I'm excited about that. 
I am really pumped about that. 

999
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,000
I would do anything for some 
pasta in Rome right now like 

1000
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,600
literally anything. 
Makes You Suffer one more of 

1001
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:52,700
your massages. 
If I give you a massage, does 

1002
00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:55,500
that mean that we get to go to 
Rome and have some pasta? 

1003
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,700
Deal. 
Do I get to go to? 

1004
00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:02,400
Yes, because I will need you to 
get me the pasta in Rome. 

1005
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,700
Let's you're so bad at it. 
You're so bad at. 

1006
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:08,000
Getting me pasta and Rome. 
No, I'm going to prove some 

1007
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,900
guidance, the best pasta know, 
you're the worst pasta boil over

1008
00:56:10,900 --> 00:56:13,200
man. 
I fetch pasta like no one like 

1009
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,300
no one. 
All right, well, that's been our

1010
00:56:16,300 --> 00:56:19,300
show. 
This has been episode 4 of the 

1011
00:56:19,300 --> 00:56:21,100
ball boys. 
Thanks for tuning in. 

1012
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,500
Remember subscribe. 
Like, share, tell everybody that

1013
00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:29,200
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1014
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:34,100
that you never needed, but are 
so glad you have Yes. 

1015
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:37,900
So I'm Paul monk home. 
Say good night Billy I'm Billy 

1016
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:39,300
Hanson. 
Good night Billy.