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Hey everybody and welcome to the
latest episode of The Ball Boys.

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We are the tennis podcast that 
puts the passing in passing 

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shots. 
I'm your host, Paul Monkle and 

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bringing you the insights, 
outbursts, giggles and wiggles 

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of the ATP and WTA tours. 
We are wrapping up the clay 

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season, just like half the ATP 
is wrapping their shoulders and 

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knees and everything in between.
What's that song? 

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My neck, my back, my something, 
my racket. 

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We have lots to cover today as 
we're gearing up to tear that 

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back to yes, we have Roland 
Garrow starting this week and 

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we're going to talk about who 
looks good to take home the 

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title this year. 
Honestly, in a year where anus 

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thing is possible, it's wide 
open except for Sasha Zarib 

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making a deep run, to which I 
say BA Hamburg as he just lost 

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in Hamburg. 
All right, and we're going to be

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talking highlights from Rome and
the lessons we learned there. 

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Hey, we got a new Pope faster 
than poor Baratini picks up 

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another injury. 
And all signs are pointing to a 

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cool one because the Pope came 
out immediately. 

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As a tennis fan, I didn't even 
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court in the Vatican. 
Like, should I become the Pope 

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so I can play on that court? 
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events, he made the oh so 
interesting and novel statement 

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that marriage is just for a man 
and a woman. 

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So I personally am no longer 
interested in anything he stands

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for or his forehand. 
May you miss all your first 

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serves, Leo. 
We're also seeing a lots of 

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streaks come to an end with 
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rivals, coaching splits and of 
course we have the return of the

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Italian superstar himself, Mr. 
Yannick Sinner. 

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We'll be looking at his 
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three matches of his run in Rome
that honestly left us scratching

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our heads more than the people 
in the stands wearing those 

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cheap red wigs for the last two 
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And of course, we've got the Bay
TP rankings plus a new section 

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called Going Deep with Matthew 
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And so who the hell else am I 
going to have as my Co host for 

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the show? 
But the guy who both slices and 

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shreds so much? 
I think he might be a Ginsu 

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knife. 
It's a Matthew Coleman. 

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Hi, Matthew. 
How are you? 

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Great, Paul, just just hanging 
loose and. 

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Hanging loose? 
Well, is that all the lingo that

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you picked up at surf camp? 
You were just at a gay surf 

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camp, right? 
Yeah, yeah, I was. 

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Yeah, give me, give me just some
highlights. 

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Wasn't everyone in a Speedo and 
like were the boards long or 

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short? 
Oh yeah. 

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Oh yeah, that was some nice 
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A girthy boards. 
Boards which would make no 

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sense, which would have zero 
sense. 

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Girthy board. 
No listen, here are the facts. 

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A lot of speedos, but like not 
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surfing because that's a chase 
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Like those boards, they'll, 
they'll rub you up if you like, 

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go shirtless. 
They'll make your tits real 

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sore. 
They get you like the ocean is a

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cruel mistress, or Mr. in our 
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That cruel mistress, Mistress 
Isabella. 

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Well, you posted one photo that 
honestly might be like one of 

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the sexiest photos I've ever 
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And I think it was just to your 
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I don't know. 
Did you post that to me? 

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You looked like a professional 
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Are you that good? 
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You looked amazing. 
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Definitely not literally. 
I think the whole point in this 

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trip is for like a bunch of 
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basically you just want to get 
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photo. 
If you get the one photo, you're

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golden. 
It doesn't really matter if you 

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like fall over 25 times after 
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Like you got you got the pic. 
You got the pic? 

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Yeah, give me a give me a 
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Hang 10 shred the gnar like I I 
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don't think people actually. 
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Yeah, you like texted something 
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like it was. 
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shred the gnar. 
But that's like such a dumb 

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cliche thing just for me and 
upset anyways. 

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But I mean, honestly, you do 
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the Shaka up there, not the 
shocker. 

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Oh. 
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The little one. 
Is that 3 in the pink one in the

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sniffer? 
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when you make the hand symbol, 
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Actually I mean. 
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it would be like one in one in 
one in the back and it's like. 

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A bowling ball on up the crack. 
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We're really going to have to 
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YouTube so people can see this 
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Got Yeah, there's there. 
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signing semaphores over here. 
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Sorry, listener, you're 
listening. 

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I am really glad to have you 
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It's been a minute since we've 
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It's the end of clay season. 
How are you feeling after all 

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this goddamn clay? 
Oh God, you know. 

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All I've done is is I always 
talk up clay. 

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Oh, it's such a great surface. 
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the the strategists and players.
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I feel like I just like wax 
poetic about why clay is 

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amazing. 
I don't know. 

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It's fine. 
It's fine. 

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My experience of this clay 
season has been like, not abject

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horror, but also not like like 
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either. 
It's been OK. 

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There have been some fun 
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shitty narratives. 
Most of my faves never go as 

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deep as I want them to. 
Like it's just, it's been a 

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little bit of a of a tease. 
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after the last season of White 
Lotus, Mike, what was like? 

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I'm just edging you all Like I 
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for like the last two months and
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Been cool. 
It's been all right. 

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Our last show together was Monte
Carlo and I was like, Oh my God,

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it's the greatest thing ever. 
I'm so I'm obsessed and I still 

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feel that way, but I'm like, I'm
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I'm ready for grass. 
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coming up starting on Saturday 
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And I'm really, really freaking 
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But it's been, it's been a 
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You almost feel like we're owed 
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We're owed like a breakthrough. 
We're owed another Maddie Keys 

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moment from Australian Open. 
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you know, we've, we've been 
watching the filler episodes, 

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you know? 
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It's like, oh like that 45 
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happened, but clearly it's 
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Everyone's going to die. 
It's time. 

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OK, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 
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This is like this is, you know, 
what are like the Battle of the 

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Bastards or something. 
It's like we got to like we got 

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to have some drama. 
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and we're going to, we're going 
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show talking about Roland Garros
just because it is so wide open 

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And it is going to be it or it's
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It could be a battle because 
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that could win. 
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and show that they're hungry, 
it's going to be bloody, that 

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red clay. 
It's going to be like the Red 

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Wedding. 
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more fun in theory when we have 
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then like what ends up happening
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underwhelming wins. 
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Chenkova. 
It feels pretty even. 

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How dare you? 
All the people you're going to 

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knock paths like the old the. 
Ultimate grinder. 

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I don't. 
I don't know why I'm beating. 

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The fact she's still she's, 
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You don't beat up on pavs. 
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and you don't beat up on Pavs, 
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French Open 2021 or whatever 
when they were in the final 

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together, like infrinted on my 
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mother's and and there is no 
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Oh wow. 
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Chenkova is facing Zheng can win
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Pavs. 
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Miracles do happen. 
As long ago. 

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So you know, this year for sure,
but before we get into all that,

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like always, we're going to 
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And for anyone new, that is just
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little gayer or a little gayer 
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And there's been a few things 
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First, I'm just going to bring 
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headline. 
So we've talked a lot about his 

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kit. 
Everyone in the Pope is going 

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crazy about Musetti's kit, which
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Really sexy. 
APC showing off the guns and the

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runner style shorts with the 
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That just goes in all the right 
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Hey, we love it when something 
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But there was this article that 
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anyone and everyone who thought 
of me sent it to me. 

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I got this article from 
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with Lorenzo Mousetti's new kit.
Tennis finally gets horny again.

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And my answer to every single 
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like, who wrote that headline? 
Austin Powers? 

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It was like, yeah, baby, it gets
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Like what a beautiful headline. 
It was like for GQ or something.

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And so I just love it where it's
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catching on to the humorous but 
sexy side of tennis this year 

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and actually the last few years.
Did you see the headline? 

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I'm sure you saw it. 
Yeah, baby. 

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Yeah, no, I I did see it. 
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I don't know if it was excellent
journalism, but it was, it was 

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good click bait, let's all put 
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The only thing that rubs me a 
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again, like, I mean, you and I 
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before the show. 
It's like nobody, it feels like 

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nobody acknowledges how sexy 
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achieve the most meteoric 
success in the sport. 

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It's like he had like Mousetti 
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Greek, I mean. 
He's a Greek God. 

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He's like, he's an Italian. 
He's an Italian statue. 

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Like he's gorgeous like that 
face, like chiseled from the 

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gods, but OK, it's like we it 
has to break the top 10 to like 

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for everyone to be start really 
thirsting over him. 

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It's weird to me. 
It's like he's been there for 

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for a few years and anybody 
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that we said he is, is a 
beautiful, beautiful man. 

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But I guess for the wider world,
yeah, you can have your fun pity

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headline your click bait or 
whatever. 

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Like we were already there. 
Look. 

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He's been there. 
But look, we all know what what 

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held him back from from haughty 
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Say it with me. 
The ponytail, the hair, the hair

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he had that top knot, that long 
hair. 

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And look, you know, the same 
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Chorich. 
These guys, they go on these 

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hair journeys. 
I'm sitting here with the full 

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on swoopy mullet so like I'm 
going to keep my. 

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Mouth I'm trying to. 
See how far back your hair feels

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for our for our listening 
audience. 

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Like like my hair is kind of a 
thing. 

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OK, so all the things that we're
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right now, it's the haircut that
I have, but it's cool. 

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It's you're not because it's not
the truth. 

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Is. 
You're not. 

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You're not. 
Wrong, Paul. 

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Yeah, and some people pull it 
off. 

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I've done. 
I've done a ponies young. 

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With this current length. 
But not but not but not a 

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professional tennis player. 
And like, come on. 

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Like literally when you're out 
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day of your life, like, how does
it make sense to have this big 

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chunk of hair that you're trying
to deal with? 

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I know that the the women do it 
like every single one of them. 

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But like, we're men. 
But we're men. 

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We don't do that. 
Yeah, we will be posting some 

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reels. 
So if you do want to see 

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Matthew's gorgeous locks, I'm 
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really stylized Carol Brady, but
that's that's that's what I'm 

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seeing. 
What's really annoying about 

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that is like you're absolutely 
not wrong. 

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Just like a little you're 
absolutely not wrong. 

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Yeah, no. 
It's great I. 

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Love it. 
Yeah, there is. 

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I do have that little, that 
little perky Carol Brady. 

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Little with like more to the 
end. 

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Oomph. 
Yeah. 

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No, it's great. 
Yeah, very 70s it's. 

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True, the other lobs be in is is
just the entire little mini saga

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of Tommy Paul's truck getting 
repossessed because he missed 

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payments, which every word of 
that sentence like makes 

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absolutely no sense. 
But then what I loved was that 

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he had no shame if that happened
to me. 

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And this is probably just like 
my gay trauma or whatever, but 

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if my car was repossessed, I 
would not be posting that on 

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Instagram. 
Then he's like going on other 

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podcasts. 
He hasn't been on this podcast 

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yet, but he's going on other 
podcasts just explaining what 

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happened. 
It's like not a big deal. 

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And it was just this thing. 
And, you know, he just ignored 

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all of it. 
He like got like 20 calls and he

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just ignored them all, which 
also is very of our time. 

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Like I don't know why these 
places call us, but I just love 

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the way he didn't care. 
He's like, whatever, I'm going 

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to go fish. 
It's just like he exists on a 

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plane that I aspire to exist on 
And and there's something really

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sexy about that. 
But also that guy, I mean, come 

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on, he can do whatever he wants 
and it's I'll be like, that's so

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hot. 
But that's my we really are 

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rewarding mediocrity here. 
But but can't pay your bills 

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Sexy. 
I mean. 

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But how does that happen? 
Love a bad boy, Love a. 

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How do you How do you not pay? 
Enough to get. 

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Repossessed like 'cause that's 
not missing one payment, right? 

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Like you've got to miss. 
I've never had that happen, but 

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like, you know. 
And I'm sure it's a really nice 

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truck. 
So we're talking, you know, 10s 

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of thousands of dollars worth of
property. 

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I mean like the whole not 
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actually super relatable because
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remember the last time I 
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number. 
But like what if this is all 

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like one big kind of funny 
sponsorship activation? 

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What if he shows up with like a 
corona hatch on his on his kit 

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next? 
To wow, yeah, Oh yeah, buy now, 

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pay later like as his like his 
new like acronym on his chest. 

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Like you're like, that's good. 
It was all one big. 

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It was all one big stunt. 
That goes all the way to the 

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top. 
Secure that sponsorship, Yeah, 

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he's like he's a. 
Credit King. 

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Wow, you I OK, so you just 
revealed yourself as a marketing

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professional because that is 
like actually a really good 

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campaign idea. 
And I feel like one of our 

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clients because I'm also in 
marketing is going to have that.

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It's like a campaign in 2026. 
So good. 

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Good. 
Being being a pod, a gay tennis 

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podcast guest Co host is 
definitely my first job. 

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But yeah, yeah, I do. 
I do marketing too. 

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Well, the gate tennis podcast 
pipeline to marketing, I think 

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is like a, is a, is a short, 
short journey. 

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So, you know, welcome to all the
other fellow queer marketers 

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because that's, that's all there
are. 

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All right, well, that was our 
Lobstians. 

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OK, well, let's move on to 
Twitch, which is this week in 

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tennis as always. 
And we're just going to cover 

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the insurance and outs going on 
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And the main thing that we're 
going to talk about since the 

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last show is Rome. 
Rome was kind of interesting. 

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Obviously one of the big 
headlines is Italians do it 

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better. 
I do love what a dominant year 

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and a half or so it's been for 
Italy cause they've come out of 

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almost nowhere. 
Like, you know, 5-10 years ago 

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it was like Sarah, Ronnie and 
like Funnini holding it down. 

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And now they've got so much 
talent and it's a deep bench. 

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They win Fed Cup last year, they
win Davis Cup last year. 

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Sinner is just like topping a 
long, long list of Italian 

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baddies. 
He's topped them all. 

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Where's the footage? 
Release the tapes? 

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Go ahead. 
No, no, please. 

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Then we got the effer 
effervescent Jasmine Paolini. 

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Like, honestly, if a bottle of 
Sprite could play tennis, that's

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Jasmine Paolini. 
I love everything she's doing. 

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I love everything about her. 
She is my like, Roman Empire now

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where I'm just like, I think 
about her and I'm like, fuck 

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yeah, Jasmine Paolini. 
I don't think she's going to win

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the French. 
But like, I'm so on the Paolini 

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train. 
Have I made that clear yet? 

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Yeah, I think, yeah, we we get 
it. 

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You. 
Do you get it, everybody? 

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Femaling, Jasmine Paolini, I. 
Would I? 

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I'm going to dress up as Sarah 
Ronnie and I'm going to be in 

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her box and I'm going to be like
I'm your double S partner now 

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let's go, let's go. 
Forza. 

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Well, I mean, I actually, no, I 
actually like, now that you say 

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it, I see the resemblance. 
Yeah. 

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I don't even think you need to 
dress up that much. 

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No, and like, you know, I I had 
to have dope. 

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And just have a just have a big 
bowl, a big bowl of pasta with 

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like some, some nice sprinkles 
of medication. 

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Who knows? 
It's it's in the I. 

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Wouldn't be able to tell the 
difference. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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We've talked about how Serra 
Ronnie kind of is facially A 

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doppelganger for Archer Rinder 
Nash, right? 

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We have not talked about that. 
You you should definitely Google

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it. 
They're they're kind of twinsies

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in a very interesting. 
They have kind of like the same 

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eyes. 
They have sort of that same 

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like, OK, I'm saying this in a 
nice way, but they have that 

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same kind of like rodent like 
attractiveness, you know, I 

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mean, it is like it's like it 
was Rat Boy summer last year. 

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So it's like this is the thing. 
I was just going to ask, like, 

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is Rat Boy Summer coming back do
we think? 

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I mean, I, I hope it's never 
gone away because that's the 

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only chance I'm going to ever 
like. 

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Oh no, Carol Brady, shut your 
mouth. 

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You stop right now. 
Misses. 

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Brady, I'm just, I'm just 
Ratatouille in a Carol Brady 

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wig. 
That's that's all I. 

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You're like 3 raccoons and a 
trench coat. 

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I am curious. 
I haven't heard anything about 

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rat boy summer though. 
Like what boy summer is it going

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to be? 
It's a middle age podcast 

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summer. 
It always is Paul in in. 

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Singapore at least is hate 
everybody's number one in 

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Singapore. 
We are we're we are rocketing 

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out to our Singaporean friends. 
We love you, Matthew. 

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All I'm saying is you get seated
in Singapore. 

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OK, but back to Rome real quick.
So that's our fifth Masters and 

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like everything I've got to rank
everything. 

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This is just like my thing that 
I do. 

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And so we have the live standing
and I'm talking just for the the

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ATP because I'm a Dick, but it's
going to be so we've got Monte 

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Carlo, Indian Wells, Miami and 
Madrid. 

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Just buy a hair under Miami. 
Matthew, where do you think the 

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Italian Open sits with the other
Masters so far? 

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This feels like a soapy's choice
it. 

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Is. 
I. 

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And I'll tell you when you're 
wrong. 

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I would say Rome is definitely 
above Miami and I would, I mean,

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first it was a weird Indian 
Wells this year, but I, but I 

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think like, if we're going for 
like batting average, I, I would

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say Monte Carlo, Indian Wells, 
Rome, Miami, Madrid. 

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You got it correct, there was 
only one right answer and you 

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win. 
I'm getting you a Bath and Body 

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Works coupon, so 
congratulations. 

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Yeah, no, I totally agree. 
I stink. 

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I need soap. 
I can smell you through this 

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video chat. 
And that's just. 

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Oh, wow, look at that bicep. 
OK, everybody, I'm so sorry this

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is just audio, but I will post a
screenshot just of him flexing 

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and kissing his bicep so you all
will. 

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Oh, you surf with that bro? 
Yeah, right. 

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But I agree, it's Monte Carlo in
Wells, Rome, Miami, and Madrid. 

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But hey, listeners, if you don't
agree, I want to hear it 

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because, you know, we're just 
too lippy homosexuals. 

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But I know some of you out there
are just as lippy. 

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Maybe Lippier, I want to hear 
from you. 

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So go over to our Instagram and 
that's at TBB Tennis. 

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Again, that's at TBB Tennis, 
it's where we post some 

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highlights of the show. 
It's where we post the full BTP 

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rankings and you know any other 
stories that come up? 

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But let me know if you think 
Rome has fallen or Rome is is 

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rising. 
All loads, all all loads lead to

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Rome is literally what I just 
said the accident. 

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So wow, wow, Paul getting a fine
for that one. 

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You need to. 
Get off the get off the Twitter 

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porn and like get your mind out 
of the gutter. 

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I look, I deleted my Twitter 
months ago and that's it's I've 

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I've, I've missed it clearly 
with what's on my mind, but just

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need the sticks. 
Yeah, seriously, somebody send 

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me an only fans 8 minute 
preview. 

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Anyway, let's talk about the 
WTAA little bit. 

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So we had the women's final, 
Coco Goff and Jasmine, Paulini. 

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Coco and Jasmine, I mean. 
Is this a final between my two 

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favorite scents? 
Like I was like, oh, it's like 

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I'm going to Bath and Body Works
again. 

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It was like kind of like a call 
back to the Mother's Day episode

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where we talked about sending 
people a Bath and Body Works 

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gift certificate for Mother's 
Day. 

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They were both wearing head to 
toe looks. 

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Coco was in her mew mew fit and 
Jasmine. 

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It's like Jasmine took Lorenzo 
Mousetti's shirt and made a 

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dress out of it. 
It was the APC kit, but it was 

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just like a one piece. 
It was like a tunic almost. 

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And so they were like giving 
like cool looks. 

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And you know, I was excited 
about the smells, but then it 

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just kind of stank. 
The result was never really in 

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doubt. 
Jasmine wins in two sets, 6462. 

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And again, I love everything 
about Jasmine, but it wasn't 

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like a great final. 
And Coco, she's now #2 in the 

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world, Miss, Miss Goff, and I 
love her. 

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I love a lot of stuff that's 
just, she's an amazing athlete, 

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but her score lines and her stat
sheets are rough with errors and

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double faults. 
What needs to happen for Coco to

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kind of like get through this? 
Because I don't think the number

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two player in the world can have
that type of stat in these 

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finals. 
No. 

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And, you know, I know that the 
the commentator world in the 

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world at large loves to dissect 
Coco's game. 

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And there's so much chatter 
about the forehand and how, you 

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know, she has this extreme 
Western grip, which like makes 

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it like she can generate a lot 
of top spin, but it's kind of a 

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very clunky, complex move. 
But I didn't want to talk about 

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that. 
The problem is her serve. 

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Coco has had 193 double faults 
year to date. 

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Girl, by far the number one, 
The, the, the, the number one 

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ranking in double faults on the 
WTA Tour, which is insane for a 

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player in the top about five. 
Yeah, So, and if you like, it's 

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really it's her second serve. 
That's probably her first serve.

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Like she wins. 
She's #10 she's ranked #10 in 

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terms of first serve points one 
on tour. 

448
00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:24,480
She's ranked 143 in second serve
points one. 

449
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,240
What? 
The second serve is a disaster. 

450
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,120
And then it went with her second
serve because it's so slow. 

451
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,920
Like when she even makes it 
that, you know, again, then when

452
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,920
like they hit it, it gets hit 
back really fast. 

453
00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:37,840
She has this, you know, this 
very. 

454
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,720
She has to do a lot of take back
to get that whippy forehand in 

455
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,080
play. 
And she doesn't have time. 

456
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,200
But it's all about the serve. 
I mean, the forehand, yeah. 

457
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,400
It's like, whatever, we'll get 
there. 

458
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,320
But like, yeah girl, you got to 
figure out that second serve. 

459
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,520
I I love that and I really 
agree. 

460
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,160
And so like, what is the deal? 
Is it nerves? 

461
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,000
Is it like like because it is 
the second serve and I'm like, I

462
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,480
am not even surprised when 
there's a double fault. 

463
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,240
I'm just like, yeah, of course. 
Like what is like what is going 

464
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,320
on there? 
Any any insights there? 

465
00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:10,080
With any player, a serve is very
mental. 

466
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,120
A serve is just an opportunity 
for all the rhythm that you have

467
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:16,560
built up to that point to fall 
apart because you, you just, you

468
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,160
feel like you've lost it. 
Coco just gets so in her head 

469
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,560
and like the confidence drops, 
but she's got the team, she's 

470
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,360
got the funds. 
So like, examine it and figure 

471
00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:28,840
it the hell out because the time
is now. 

472
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,200
Yeah, but like I said, I am a 
fan. 

473
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,960
But like I just it it it makes 
me a little sad that the number 

474
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:41,200
two player in the world has that
type of game right now and it 

475
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,160
and it is fixable. 
Like yes, it's mental, Of course

476
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,280
it's mental, But I think that 
someone just needs to take her 

477
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,000
off the tour for like a week and
just be like, OK, this is this 

478
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,400
is the new serve. 
This is like the toss is either 

479
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,600
too high or something and just. 
Because it sucks. 

480
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,240
I mean, that's what Arena did. 
And it worked out. 

481
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,320
Yeah. 
It was gangbusters for her. 

482
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,880
Yeah. 
But like, I am about to talk a 

483
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,560
little bit about both sides of 
my mouth, too. 

484
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:09,880
Because like, I do think in some
ways, like it actually benefits 

485
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,320
her to have one part of her game
that is just a little bit stuck 

486
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,720
because, because it is something
to stay focused on. 

487
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,600
You know, I feel like when you 
look at what's happened to Eaga 

488
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:25,640
lately, it's like I just she was
so dominant for so long that I 

489
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,160
think she kind of like in this, 
she could have lost that ability

490
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,880
to to like, figure out a Plan B 
and a plan C, You know, it's 

491
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,880
because she just like when she 
when she falls out of the match,

492
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,720
she just looks flummoxed. 
She's done Coco. 

493
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,720
It's like Coco is used to 
winning ugly at this point. 

494
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,480
Yeah. 
And like is pretty damn good at 

495
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,000
it. 
And like, that is a muscle in 

496
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,880
and of itself that I feel like 
it's good to have. 

497
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,600
Now, obviously it'd be better if
her game was just fixed, but 

498
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,880
it's like mentally like she's 
she she knows that she's got to 

499
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,200
kind of stay present in every 
point in order to win the match.

500
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,840
And like I think in pressure 
points that actually is a big 

501
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,480
advantage for. 
Her yeah, no, totally. 

502
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,960
I mean, and that's like that 
semi final was Jane can win. 

503
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,840
It was three sets and it was the
kind of an ugly three sets. 

504
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,800
And you're right. 
No, Coco's great at winning 

505
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,880
ugly. 
I just don't love watching it. 

506
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:24,440
And it's, you know, it's it's 
been my struggle with both tours

507
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,920
the last few years where it's 
really hard to get invested. 

508
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,680
It's really hard to root where 
it's like, it's one thing if you

509
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,120
lose based on skill, It's 
another if you lose because you 

510
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:36,600
just didn't show up that day or,
you know, like, oh, you're just 

511
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,080
like, oh, today my server was 
off. 

512
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,520
It's like, that's me. 
Like there are days where my 

513
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,800
server is off and I lose great 
because I'm, you know, a 

514
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,280
schmuck, but like the number two
player in the world, like I 

515
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,520
shouldn't be worried about that.
And it's just kind of like, I 

516
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,880
mean, I and again, I'm really 
happy that Jasmine won. 

517
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,240
Jasmine also won the double s. 
So like, really just like, I 

518
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,880
mean, come on, give a give a 
little. 

519
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:02,840
Are you a Jasmine fan? 
Is that your favorite scent? 

520
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,000
Yeah. 
I feel like you would smell 

521
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,840
really good, like a little 
Jasmine Patchouli. 

522
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,600
A little, a little, yeah. 
Note to Jasmine maybe, yeah. 

523
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,080
Maybe kind of mixed into some 
sandalwood and maybe. 

524
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,200
Yeah, maybe something a little 
smoky. 

525
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,480
Yeah. 
I see the vision. 

526
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,400
No, I love Jasmine. 
Jasmine's great. 

527
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,600
Like she's so effortless and 
effortless and like he like the 

528
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,120
minute that that her profile 
rose, she just immediately like 

529
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:31,080
was very open and authentic with
the media. 

530
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,720
You know what it's like she just
like was she was made for it. 

531
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,480
And I just listen. 
I love that she won this 

532
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,040
tournament. 
Like cuz I, I just, I think it's

533
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,360
fun to root for the hometown 
girl. 

534
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:42,840
I love it when and it, yeah, 
like I love it when a hometown 

535
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,320
player wins their tournament 
because it's just like, you know

536
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,800
how fun it is for all the people
in the audience. 

537
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,000
You know how you know how 
special it is for the player? 

538
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,400
So like, it's cool. 
I was. 

539
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,320
I wasn't mad at that at all. 
Yeah, well, and then on the 

540
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,760
men's side, we had another 
hometown girl going for the 

541
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,480
final, which was Yannick Sinner 
against Carlos Alcaraz, which 

542
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,920
was, you know, the dream match 
up. 

543
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,960
Everyone was like, OK, Yannick 
is back after his three month 

544
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,480
suspension. 
And this is this is who we 

545
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,240
wanted to see in the final. 
So we got the final that we 

546
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,160
wanted. 
But then Carlos wins pretty 

547
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,760
handily. 
You know, the first set, very 

548
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,520
close 76, but the tie break was 
not close at all. 

549
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,880
And then he takes him in 661 in 
the second set. 

550
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,280
Kind of real bummer. 
And I was just like, what what 

551
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,760
do we think happened there for 
Yannick? 

552
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,360
Like is he is he just not match 
fit? 

553
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,040
Was it kind of overwhelming 
mentally? 

554
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,640
Like it it does take a minute to
get back into the the mindset of

555
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,960
playing week in and week out. 
Yeah, well, and you can, you 

556
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,120
know, you can look back to what 
happened in the the match before

557
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,880
too with with Tom and he just 
got demolished in in that first 

558
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,120
set and then came back and 
turned it around very handily. 

559
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:58,600
But it's it's a really good 
question. 

560
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,080
I don't know if I really have 
the answer. 

561
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,560
I think he's, you know, sure 
he's not technically match fit, 

562
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,360
but I think he's actually very 
fit fit like he was not out with

563
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:10,160
an injury. 
He didn't have anything to 

564
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,120
recover from. 
But I don't have the feeling it 

565
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:15,520
was just a little bit of 
everything, a little bit of 

566
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,560
rust, a little bit of nerves and
and you know, I don't want to 

567
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,960
shortchange Carlos. 
I, I think, you know, Carlos can

568
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,640
be streaky. 
It's not even fair to say he's 

569
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,560
streaky. 
He's not, he's not, he's not 

570
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,520
streaky. 
He has some surprising dips in. 

571
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,160
Consequence. 
He'll lose his focus in a match 

572
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,080
in the occasional match. 
Yeah, but like, but, but I think

573
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,240
he's also so good at locking in 
and raising his level. 

574
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,680
And, like, Yannick has always 
just kind of been traditionally,

575
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,640
like, always operating at this 
higher frequency. 

576
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,800
And he doesn't really seem to 
dip or come back. 

577
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,280
But it's like, you know, I think
maybe that didn't serve him well

578
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,680
this time because he needed to 
find something extra. 

579
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,240
And I don't think he's really 
used to doing that. 

580
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,440
Interesting. 
And maybe he just kind of burned

581
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,160
that gasoline up in the last 
match. 

582
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,360
But yeah, I just think Carlos 
was like, he saw it, He wanted 

583
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,480
it. 
He locked in. 

584
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,240
And frankly, there's just no 
stopping him at that point. 

585
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,440
Yeah. 
Well, yeah. 

586
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,400
I mean, Carlos now has a 7 to 4 
edge in head to head, including 

587
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,800
winning the last four matches, 
including the three matches 

588
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,160
during Sinners really dominant 
2024. 

589
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,960
Like who does that? 
Nobody. 

590
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,800
You know what I mean? 
I think for me the the biggest 

591
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:32,760
factor in that match up is who's
healthy and who's not because I 

592
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,520
feel like a lot of a lot of 
Carlos's like periods of 

593
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,240
underperformance. 
I feel like you've been related 

594
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,720
to injury, which is which is not
something to discount because 

595
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,720
he's had a few significant 
injuries in his relatively short

596
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,560
career to date. 
And I feel like it's going to be

597
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,880
interesting in the next few 
years to see with Carlitos, 

598
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,480
like, how does his body hold up?
Because yeah, you can absolutely

599
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,920
stay at #1 or #2 but it's like 
it's totally dependent on him 

600
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,440
not pulling something, not 
straightening something. 

601
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,200
I don't know if we have enough 
data on that matchup outside of 

602
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,440
it to know like really kind of 
long term who's going to who's 

603
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,240
going to come out ahead. 
That's true. 

604
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,320
That's true. 
I mean, yeah, they're still so 

605
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,000
young. 
You know, I mean, Novak and 

606
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,880
Federer, like they kind of 
really like came into themselves

607
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,480
around 2728. 
But these guys are still 2324. 

608
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,440
Their brains aren't even done 
forming yet. 

609
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,800
You know that that that keeps 
going until you're 26 or in my 

610
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,720
case, like well into your early 
to late mid 30s and 40s. 

611
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,280
One of the things that was 
noticeable for Sinner's return, 

612
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,040
like he's kind of even more 
jacked than ever, which again, 

613
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,560
like I'm kind of like, does that
really help? 

614
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,720
Like with any allegations about 
doping, Like, I don't think he 

615
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,040
doped, but it's just like, well,
OK, now he's even bigger. 

616
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,640
Jesus fucking Christ. 
Like we're in trouble. 

617
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,120
But. 
That's what all these guys do 

618
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,680
when when they're off the tour. 
And honestly, that's what a lot 

619
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,680
of guys do more so even when 
they're injured because like 

620
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,360
they actually can't get out on 
court and play. 

621
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,760
And so like their answer is like
I'm just going to spend 3. 

622
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,880
Hours at the gym. 
I remember when Schorich came 

623
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,760
back after his injury for that 
audible, he was like, dude was 

624
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,880
the Terminator and it was it was
crazy. 

625
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,200
And he actually then I think 
that's the year he won the that 

626
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,920
Masters 1000. 
Out of nowhere. 

627
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,560
But yeah, it's like, it's like 
when these guys are not on a 

628
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,360
tennis court, it's just like 
typical male response to any 

629
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,960
sort of stress situation. 
It's like I'm going to, I'm 

630
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,440
going to head to gym and like 
leave it all on the on the gym 

631
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,720
floor. 
Well, Carlos did the same thing 

632
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,320
a couple years ago. 
I mean, his first year on the 

633
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,720
tour, he was like a boy. 
And then like there was the the 

634
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,640
month off when they used to have
a month off on the tour and he 

635
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,560
came back. 
People were like, who is that? 

636
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,320
A little more about Sinner, 
though. 

637
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,120
I mean, so he's come back and he
is just this gigantic star. 

638
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,160
Of course, in Italy for the 
Italian Open, the reception was 

639
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,840
was just massive. 
I still don't totally get it. 

640
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,440
Every match there were several 
dozens of people wearing red 

641
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,440
wigs, you know, dressed up as 
carrots. 

642
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,120
And I don't know how active you 
are on TikTok, but there was 

643
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,400
this crazy trend like a week 
ago. 

644
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,840
And anyone out there who's on 
TikTok, there's no way you 

645
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,440
didn't see this on your For You 
page. 

646
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,680
It's all about redheads and you 
know, gingers. 

647
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,480
And there was a, a black woman 
on there who said all gingers 

648
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,960
with red hair are actually black
people. 

649
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,400
And people at first were like, 
wait, what? 

650
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,640
I don't get it. 
And then the app just exploded 

651
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,840
with gingers or redheaded 
Americans, like I'm not even 

652
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,040
sure what the term is anymore, 
telling their stories, really 

653
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,200
touching and horrible stories 
about how they were treated 

654
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,480
growing up as a redhead, you 
know, objectified, bullied, like

655
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:42,160
ostracized, all these horrible 
things and that they hate being 

656
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,160
called carrots and they hate 
being called, you know, this and

657
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,600
that. 
And so then I like now I'm 

658
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,600
looking at all these people in 
wigs in the stands and I'm like,

659
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,680
is, is that offensive? 
Should they be doing that? 

660
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,080
Because those wigs, like they 
were not flattering red wigs. 

661
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,800
They were like raggedy and 
raggedy Andy Gross ass shake and

662
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,040
go red wigs. 
I know this is the condition is 

663
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,240
going to do nothing for you, but
you're reminding me of on when 

664
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,840
on The Real Housewives of New 
York like Countess Luann dressed

665
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,560
up as Diana Ross, complete with 
the giant Afro and and 

666
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,040
definitely have gotten a spray 
tan right before except for 

667
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,600
Halloween like it's very it's 
this. 

668
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,760
This whole conversation is very.
Luann coded, yeah. 

669
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,840
It was insane, like for the 
entire week. 

670
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,560
And it wasn't that they were 
saying they're black, it's that 

671
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,440
black people were telling them 
we love you, you're coming to us

672
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,480
now and we got your back because
of all the crap that you've been

673
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,080
through. 
It wasn't like, oh, I'm like a 

674
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,960
black person now. 
That's a that's a beautiful 

675
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,520
moment of solidarity. 
People are affordable, people 

676
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,800
are cruel. 
Any, anything that makes you 

677
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,360
different, like you're going to 
be, you know, about, especially 

678
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,800
when you're a kid, it's sports. 
Like I think there's a little 

679
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,800
bit more permissiveness in the 
culture personally, unless 

680
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,480
Sinner comes out and says like, 
like, I really don't like that. 

681
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,200
Listen, I know he wants this 
whole thing to be the fox and 

682
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,640
not the carrot, but like he's, 
he's embraced the lost the 

683
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,240
Kuroda boys. 
So you know, if, if he's, if 

684
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,840
he's good with the whole thing, 
then I'm good with it. 

685
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,920
I yeah sure. 
I just wonder like. 

686
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,480
That's all that matters was what
I think. 

687
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,480
Was he ever bullied for being a 
redhead? 

688
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,120
Is it like, I just wonder, I 
don't know if that happens over 

689
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,760
in Italy. 
I don't think redheads are that 

690
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,880
common in Italy. 
So like, I don't know, I could 

691
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,360
see a world where he was like, 
you know, made fun of and like, 

692
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,880
I don't know, just I'm just 
throwing. 

693
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,920
It was just. 
You think someone was like was 

694
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,199
like, hey fire crotch. 
Oh, 100%. 

695
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,639
I mean, look, the stories on 
TikTok again, like you got to 

696
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,360
go, you got to that's where 
that's where everything is. 

697
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,760
That's where I get all my news 
now. 

698
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,360
And. 
I'm not, I'm not doing them. 

699
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,040
All but it was just but like. 
Listen, I'm sure that I'm sure 

700
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,840
that young like bougie Onic 
center in his like evil super 

701
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,440
villain, you know, childhood ski
outfit with his like, you know, 

702
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,199
22 little Italian greyhounds, 
like ski, ski villain dogs. 

703
00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:00,200
Like he was, he was like he was 
a young pro skier. 

704
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,360
He was fine. 
I'm sure that that you know, I, 

705
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,360
I don't think that he, if he got
bullied, he's like, he's like, I

706
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,960
already like make more money and
I'm like more athletically 

707
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,160
gifted than you'll ever be like 
bullies. 

708
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,600
So like, he's like, he's fine. 
OK. 

709
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,800
And, and listeners, that was 
today's lesson on empathy from 

710
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,800
Matthew Coleman. 
He's fine. 

711
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,360
He had money, OK. 
Well, it's been a long. 

712
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,840
Day. 
Listen, suck it, ginger. 

713
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:37,920
OK, moving on. 2 episodes ago it
was Clay JA vu. 

714
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,680
It was like everything was 
happening over and over again. 

715
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,960
The same thing is happening and 
it is all confusing. 

716
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,960
But then we had the bunch of 
streaks end. 

717
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,160
Finally in Rome, Sabalenka 
doesn't make it to the final. 

718
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,680
Finally Jenkin win gets her 
first win over Sabalenka ever. 

719
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,440
It was after I think six in a 
row. 

720
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,960
Tommy Paul gets his first win 
over Alex Demeneur after losing 

721
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,640
6 times in a row. 
Eega out of the top 2 for the 

722
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,200
first time in years. 
She's going to be the fifth seed

723
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,080
at Roland Garros, which is 
really noteworthy because she's 

724
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,320
had so much success at Roland 
Garros. 

725
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,320
And of course, Novak and Andy, 
Andy Murray, they ended, they 

726
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,800
are coaching relationships. 
So Andy Murray was his coach 

727
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,840
since the end of last year. 
I honestly never understood the 

728
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,600
point of that coaching 
relationship. 

729
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,680
Novak spent his career beating 
the crap out of Andy. 

730
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,760
Like Andy had some moments in 
2016. 

731
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,760
Andy Murray was peak was 
fantastic. 

732
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,160
But I mean, Novak had him 
figured out. 

733
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:38,240
So why are you going to pick 
somebody who you just dominated 

734
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,120
as your coach? 
Like it never made sense to me. 

735
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,400
And I honestly was like, is this
APR stunt to like, get some 

736
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,280
goodwill or like, what do we 
think Andy was bringing to 

737
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,960
Novak's game? 
I know I'm asking all the hard 

738
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,160
questions because I don't know 
the answers to anything. 

739
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,880
I don't think you brought. 
I don't think you brought 

740
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,000
anything. 
He didn't get any results. 

741
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,360
Yeah. 
It felt, it felt like a stunt. 

742
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,280
Yeah. 
It felt like a stunt to me. 

743
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,880
Yeah. 
Which, yeah, maybe maybe it was 

744
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,800
as simple as like Novak knowing 
that he was in a bit of a slump 

745
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,840
and just going look over there 
like, here's something else for 

746
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,560
you to talk about. 
Yeah. 

747
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,800
I don't know. 
Yeah. 

748
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,720
Well, and now Novak is over in 
Geneva trying to win his 100th 

749
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,920
tournament. 
He's got 99 titles, but a bitch 

750
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,480
ain't one. 
And he is going for #100 and I 

751
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,880
don't know, like, I don't know 
if I'm going to count A 

752
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,320
tournament where you start at 
the round of 16 'cause you got 

753
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,440
to buy in the first round, 
'cause there were like 28 people

754
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,960
in the draw. 
Yeah, I know. 

755
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,040
But that's like every 250. 
Like, I, you got to count a 

756
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,240
ball. 
I, I don't know, I, I feel like 

757
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,800
you have to at least win five 
matches. 

758
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,520
I feel like a Grand Slam is 7 
matches 1000 and a 500 is 6/2/50

759
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,480
is 5. 
Like, you get 4 matches. 

760
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,080
I could win four. 
Man, I don't know. 

761
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,800
I don't know. 
I'm not buying it. 

762
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,200
It's going to be a big asterisk 
to me anyway. 

763
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaking of Novak, Matthew, do 
you want to hear a joke? 

764
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,000
Yeah. 
So Novak Djokovic has recovered 

765
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,320
from his sty, but I sure haven't
Matthew. 

766
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,040
What is Novak Djokovic's 
favorite Parisian landmark? 

767
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,560
The men's restroom at the 
Chateau. 

768
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,600
I don't. 
Know this Eiffel Tower? 

769
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,960
Oh, that's good. 
How does Novak Djokovic like to 

770
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,880
get around Paris? 
He rides his Sticycle. 

771
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,400
Oh, that's good. 
You know, I'm going to get, I'm 

772
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:31,880
going to keep these up as long 
as I can go. 

773
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:37,760
What is Novak Djokovic's 
favorite piece of art at the 

774
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,720
Louvre? 
No, I actually know this one. 

775
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,720
I actually know this one. 
It's it's it's Gustav. 

776
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,000
No, it's Gustav Matrix 1892 
painting. 

777
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,440
Wow. 
I don't know. 

778
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Flowers. 
Flowers on the flowers are the 

779
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,640
stars of the Earth. 
Yeah. 

780
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,960
None of that rhymes with sty. 
It's it's Venus Dis Stylo. 

781
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,600
These are you know what? 
You know what, folks? 

782
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,120
This is, this is going to go on 
for as long as I can. 

783
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,840
And honestly, today in his 
match, he kind of injured his 

784
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,240
thigh. 
So instead of rhyming things 

785
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:14,680
with thigh, I might start 
rhyming things with thigh. 

786
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,600
It's a whole new world is 
opening up, which is literally 

787
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,480
the same, the same. 
I don't know what you're talking

788
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,400
about. 
Just recycled. 

789
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,720
There's no. 
Yeah, a thigh cycle the thigh. 

790
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,560
Oh, the Eiffel Tower. 
It's like I've got a lift. 

791
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,520
Have you ever seen, have you 
ever seen Who Framed Roger 

792
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,480
Rabbit? 
Of course, yeah. 

793
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,200
Yeah, OK. 
You know the whole thing where 

794
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,680
it's like where you somebody 
says like shave in a haircut 

795
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,360
like and he goes stupid. 
He just can't resist. 

796
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,960
I feel like that's you and a dad
joke. 

797
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,680
Like you literally you have to 
you have to tell at least three 

798
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,360
a day or like you will implode 
like a super. 

799
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,480
I, yeah, I, I, I will die. 
Well, so, and it's OK. 

800
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,520
So I have a fourth one. 
It's a bonus one. 

801
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,080
This is not related to Novak 
though. 

802
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,400
I don't even know if this is 
going to make the cut. 

803
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:07,520
What does the Pope call a LOB? 
I I have a zero idea please tell

804
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,560
me. 
A Christian Passover. 

805
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,640
That one I think is the best 
one. 

806
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,520
Thank you. 
Thank you. 

807
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,080
Well, that's good. 
At first I was, at first I was 

808
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,240
like, oh, it's just Passover. 
But then I was like, wait, 

809
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:25,640
that's not Christian. 
So had to, yeah, 'cause I, you 

810
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,680
know, I'm, I'm a Buddhist. 
Buddhism we love, we love, we 

811
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,720
love religious, religious 
commentary on the on the spot. 

812
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,720
That's definitely that's our, 
that's our like 5th or 6th tag 

813
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,760
that we put on Spotify to, to 
tag our content. 

814
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,600
We are the number six religious 
podcast in Singapore. 

815
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:54,320
OK, So we are going to move on. 
And this is a new segment, it's 

816
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,160
called Going Deep with Matthew 
Coleman. 

817
00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:01,080
And this is just something for 
Matthew to take us a little more

818
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,680
technical, a little more 
analytical. 

819
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,400
So, Matthew, how are we going 
deep this show? 

820
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,800
So I would like to direct our 
attention to one of my favorite,

821
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:15,720
slightly more underrated 
characters on the WTA tour, and 

822
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:23,960
that is Miss Ludmila Simpsonova,
who at her best is a absolute 

823
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,680
big babe tennis ball striker in 
the vein of Sabalenka. 

824
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,480
But at her worst, she's losing 
the a bunch of these three set 

825
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,720
matches that she should be 
winning. 

826
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,360
And I and I, I find myself 
asking why. 

827
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,720
And I was looking into it. 
OK, so we talked about how Coco 

828
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:44,840
is the #143 in terms of second 
serve points, one on the women's

829
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:51,080
tour. 
OK, Samsanova is #147 he wins 

830
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:57,760
41.8% of her second serve 
points, which is atrocious. 

831
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,560
So like her, her second serve is
a is a mess. 

832
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:07,200
And if you ever watch her play a
match, she does this really 

833
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,440
bizarre thing between her first 
serve and her second serve, 

834
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,320
which she will just stand there 
for about 20 seconds and just 

835
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,680
bounce the ball. 
She just bounces it like she's 

836
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,400
playing basketball. 
Like she's like waiting for the 

837
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:23,720
bus, you know, or like like 
she's like her Spotify is like 

838
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:25,320
loading and she's got a bad 
connection. 

839
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,960
Like she just for an 
interminable amount of time. 

840
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,600
And I think it is just so long 
that she loses all of her 

841
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,200
rhythm. 
And by the time she actually 

842
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,840
throws it up and hits it like 
she just she's not she's not her

843
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,040
head isn't in the game anymore. 
And so if I were her coach, I 

844
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,680
would say Liuda or nickname. 
We're going to we're going to 

845
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,280
stop doing the bouncing. 
I just want to, for the next 

846
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,360
like two weeks, all we're going 
to do is like, after you miss a 

847
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,480
first serve, you're going to not
hesitate at all and you're just 

848
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,240
going to throw it up and hit it.
And we're going to train you to 

849
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:00,520
not sit there bouncing your ball
for 20 seconds. 

850
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,480
And I, I think that that 
actually would get her second 

851
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,520
serve numbers up. 
And I think that all these 

852
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,520
matches that she would be 
winning, she will actually win 

853
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,320
now. 
All right, my friends, we have, 

854
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,520
we've gone deep. 
So, TuneIn for the next 

855
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,040
installment of Going Deep with 
Matthew. 

856
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,480
Coleman I love that only. 
On the ball, boys. 

857
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,800
On the ball, boys, I love that. 
So Lude Miller, Sam, son of a 

858
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,800
bitch. 
I want you to listen to Matthew 

859
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,400
Coleman because he's always 
right. 

860
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,360
And every time I do a show with 
it's really annoying. 

861
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:32,600
Isn't it? 
It's very annoying. 

862
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,880
It's really fucking. 
It annoys me. 

863
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,280
Yeah, no, like I, I hate it, 
Like I absolutely despise it. 

864
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,960
But you'll always make the right
call about, you know, various 

865
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,320
coaching things. 
And honestly, I feel like you've

866
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:51,560
got a future and, and, and being
some sort of a mentor, like 

867
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:57,400
hybrid, like like mental coach 
doula for like the, the WTA and 

868
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,240
you just like, you're like a 
witch. 

869
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,160
And I think that there's 
something there for you. 

870
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,800
So I I'm excited. 
I'm a witch and a doula. 

871
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,480
Thank you. 
Thank you so much. 

872
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,040
Isn't that kind of this they're.
Definitely on my on my vision 

873
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,600
board, it's like. 
The same thing, right? 

874
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,200
All doula. 
Doula is like, is a midwife. 

875
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,840
Yeah. 
You. 

876
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,680
Oh, so so you're, you're telling
the midwife community you think 

877
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,000
that they're all Pagan. 
Oh, they're all like burning 

878
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,320
incense and like, yeah, like 
Jasmine and like, you know, Coco

879
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,640
here, like it's all, it's all 
connected. 

880
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,880
Yeah, yeah. 
I'm I wasn't kidding about the 

881
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,600
religious commentary like I'm. 
Serious. 

882
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,960
I know we're going there. 
It is our, it is our number, it 

883
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,160
is our number six content tag on
Spotify. 

884
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,400
We're really trying to like, 
like increase our numbers on 

885
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,240
religious commentary. 
Yeah #7 was midwives, but I 

886
00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:46,960
think we're going to have to 
change that now. 

887
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:52,720
So yeah, sorry midwives, we 
lost, we lost a very small sub 

888
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:54,240
segment. 
Of our audience, my favorite 

889
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:56,560
show, The real Midwives of New 
York City. 

890
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,120
Why is it wait, why isn't that a
oh, the real midwives? 

891
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,040
Come on, Andy Cohen, get on it. 
OK, OK, Calm down, Andy Cohen. 

892
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,840
So excited. 
All right, so now we're going to

893
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,760
get into our preview of Roland 
Garros. 

894
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,880
But before we do that, just a 
quick touching our bases on the 

895
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,400
Bait TP, because what does all 
this mean coming out of Rome? 

896
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,840
Well, it means how hot are the 
guys after that tournament? 

897
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,360
And to answer that, we've got 
our Bait TP rankings. 

898
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,240
And so we just posted the top 
eight of the Bay TP to our 

899
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:31,640
Instagram. 
And you can see all that at TBB 

900
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,760
Tennis. 
Again, our handle is at TBB 

901
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,240
Tennis heading over there. 
Check it out. 

902
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,680
And for the first time ever in 
the long, illustrious history of

903
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:48,280
the Bay TP, we have got a 
returning #1 and that is Lorenzo

904
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,080
Mousetti. 
The entire world's gone Gaga for

905
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,680
Mousetti. 
And Speaking of Gaga, he's also 

906
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,680
just announced that he is going 
to have his second baby. 

907
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:04,280
He is a dad already. 
He is 22 or 23 years old and 

908
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,360
he's having his second baby, 
which again, more BATP points. 

909
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,240
I'm sorry. 
So if you're going to have a 

910
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:12,400
black kit, you're going to look 
that good. 

911
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,440
You're going to snag headlines. 
You are going to make the 

912
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,440
semifinals. 
I'm sorry, you're still number 

913
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,120
one in the BATP. 
And so Lorenzo, well done. 

914
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,680
So Roland Garros is starting, 
AKA the French Open. 

915
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,280
It's the second slam of the year
on the gorgeous, gorgeous red 

916
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:39,640
clay of Paris. 
I went there in 2017 and it was 

917
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,160
fantastic. 
It was. 

918
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,680
You could still smoke cigarettes
on the grounds. 

919
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,640
I smoked back then. 
I just sipped espresso smoked 

920
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,520
while watching fucking Rafael 
Nadal on Suzanne Langlon. 

921
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,800
I was in the 2nd row of Suzanne 
Langlon and it was not that 

922
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,680
expensive and it was just in 
Crayabla. 

923
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:01,240
I will be speaking French for 
the rest of the episode. 

924
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,040
I'm Crayabla. 
Just like we ranked the masters 

925
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,840
one thousands. 
Matthew Coleman. 

926
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,560
Where does Roland Garros fall 
for you in terms of the other 

927
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,400
grand slams? 
Is it a we or a non? 

928
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:22,240
I mean, what, what kind of like 
absolute tennis neophyte would 

929
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:26,480
would give Roland Garros unknown
like it is, it's such a wee. 

930
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,520
Are you kidding me? 
It is one of the IT is one of 

931
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,000
the most iconic tournaments in 
tennis. 

932
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:36,360
I would say it is a solid #2 and
I do not mean that in the 

933
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,080
defecatory sense. 
I mean, it is. 

934
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,320
In the Coco golf sense. 
Wimbledon, Wimbledon, which is 

935
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,560
like the world's classiest 
tournament on the world's oldest

936
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:52,560
surface, Roland Garros, which is
which is it's it's style, it's 

937
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,480
substance, city of love, Rafa 
magic, it's clay, clay court, 

938
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,400
you know, tennis wizard romance.
And then frankly, I feel, I feel

939
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,840
like it's like U.S. 
Open and and Australian Open 

940
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,640
kind of pulling up the rear. 
Like, I know it's, you know, I 

941
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,400
mean, hardcore tennis is really 
the the backbone of the tour, 

942
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,840
but like, I just don't feel like
it's given us anything new, you 

943
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,400
know? 
No, those are great answers. 

944
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,120
You're wrong, but those are 
great answers. 

945
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,600
You're correct on Wimbledon. 
Wimbledon is number one. 

946
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,240
I am going to say though, 
Australia, and this may be a 

947
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,880
recency bias because I, I was 
very fortunate and I went to 

948
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,400
Australia last year for the 
Australian Open. 

949
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,200
It blew my mind out of the 
water. 

950
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,640
So the US Open for me is a 
distant fourth. 

951
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,840
And they just announced all 
these things they're going to do

952
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,720
to make the US Open even bigger 
and better, and they're going to

953
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:44,520
like add 2000 seats to our 
threat. 

954
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,040
No, don't add seats to that 
monstrosity. 

955
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,000
Take seats away. 
That stadium is way too big. 

956
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,520
Yeah, it's not a, it's not a 
full bum match. 

957
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,800
It's tennis. 
It's like intimacy is core to 

958
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,560
the enjoyment of the. 
Yeah, yeah. 

959
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,920
So I mean, for me, Australia and
and and Roland Garros are like 

960
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,680
neck and neck. 
There may be tied for a second. 

961
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,120
So here's what I'd have to say 
about the Australian Open. 

962
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,160
You know that that the figure in
New York politics, I forget his 

963
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,320
name, but he's like, the rent is
too damn high. 

964
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,760
Oh yeah, yeah, like. 
The Rent. 

965
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,440
The Rent. 
Is too damn high, yeah. 

966
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:21,800
OK, I for I, I want to take that
energy and apply it to the 

967
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:26,320
Australian Open, but it's but it
becomes the court is too damn 

968
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,680
hot. 
The court is too damn hot. 

969
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,720
Those players are dying out 
there. 

970
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:35,240
I, I do not want my precious 
baby fragile tennis players to 

971
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:38,760
have to go through extreme heat 
season after season in the, in 

972
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,040
the era of global warming when 
every year is going to be hotter

973
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,680
than the one before it. 
This is true. 

974
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,480
I do not, I do not like this, my
friends. 

975
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,000
I do not like it. 
So for that reason, Australian 

976
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,800
Open, I don't know why I'm going
full Susie Orman, you are 

977
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,480
denied. 
Girlfriend. 

978
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,520
Wow. 
Back to 3rd place, you know. 

979
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,200
Well, so I it, it is a great 
point, actually. 

980
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,560
It's something that I think 
about a lot because I feel like 

981
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,080
more and more I'm watching 
tennis tournaments where the 

982
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,720
weather is terrible. 
It's either too hot or too cold.

983
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:09,120
Like in Europe right now, 
they're all in parkas and 

984
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,920
freezing and like, and, and I do
think that at some point, and 

985
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,880
this is another horrible outcome
of global warming, we're going 

986
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,280
to have to reshuffle the 
tournaments. 

987
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,720
So it's going to have to be like
different times of the year 

988
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:22,280
because, like, yeah, I mean, the
same can be said for Cincinnati 

989
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,640
and DC. 
Like, I really want to go to DC 

990
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,160
this year for the the DC Open. 
Too much, too hot. 

991
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,320
Damn, I've heard you're in like 
an easy bake oven in that in 

992
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,520
that old ass rickety stadium. 
And it's I'm I'm. 

993
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,040
Still with. 
You yeah, the draws. 

994
00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:41,680
So the draws came out today and 
I've got to talk a little bit 

995
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,600
about seeding because, you know,
I have a lot of thoughts about 

996
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:50,120
how we seed the men. 
And I just got to ask on what 

997
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:55,600
God's green earth is Taylor 
Fritz doing as the number four 

998
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,720
seed on clay at Roland Garros? 
He just lost today in Geneva. 

999
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:02,480
I get that Fritz is a top four 
hardcore player. 

1000
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:07,160
I believe that fine, great. 
But on clay, that he is a fourth

1001
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,720
seed, when Someone Like, You 
know, Novak, someone like a 

1002
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:14,880
Rude, Someone Like You know, 
even Lucetti who's had such 

1003
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,600
great runs is not the foresee. 
I feel like back in the day they

1004
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,600
used to have more discretion, 
especially at Wimbledon. 

1005
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,800
Yeah. 
Where it wasn't just based on I 

1006
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,160
was wondering if. 
You're going to bring that up? 

1007
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,480
Yeah, You know, I bring up 
discretion a lot. 

1008
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,360
I'm not discreet. 
No, you just like to. 

1009
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,240
You just like to bring up things
that are old, old, the distant 

1010
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:36,800
past. 
I'm going to mute your mic right

1011
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,400
now. 
This this Sam son of a bitch. 

1012
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,520
But I'm that's your that's your 
5th dad joke. 

1013
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,440
What I do here. 
Yeah, you're really on a roll. 

1014
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,720
Come to Daddy. 
Yeah, no. 

1015
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:53,800
You know who there is to blame? 
It's the other members of the 

1016
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,000
top 10 because no one can be 
consistent to save their lives. 

1017
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,320
You know, it's like Rublev is 
mentally cooked, Casper is in 

1018
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,920
and out. 
You know, Runa's body is 

1019
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,560
constantly failing him. 
Like like Dimitrov is like our 

1020
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:16,480
our gorgeous balding birexual. 
So like, yeah, Bulgarian balding

1021
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,440
bisexual. 
I mean, God, Medvedev sis the 

1022
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,840
past. 
I'm leaving off the obvious ones

1023
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,800
here. 
But like we're used to having a 

1024
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,520
very locked top of the field. 
You know, it's like it's like 

1025
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,680
their their dominance is 
established, but it's like just 

1026
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:31,920
everybody's been kind of 
slipping and sliding and trying 

1027
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,440
to find their groove this year. 
So I mean, I'm not shocked that 

1028
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,600
Fritz just bite process of 
elimination, you know, has held 

1029
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,800
on to that #4 seeding. 
Because I mean, you're right, 

1030
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,560
like his season hasn't exactly 
justified it, but like nobody 

1031
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:45,760
else's has either. 
Yeah. 

1032
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:51,480
But I mean, if you're in his 
quarter, which I think it's 

1033
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:57,440
Moussetti and Runa, yeah, you're
like it could be way worse. 

1034
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,840
Although also, like, I mean, you
could say the same thing about 

1035
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:05,440
Zverev right now, Zverev's 
number three seed and Zverev, as

1036
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,880
I said at the top of the show, 
just lost in Hamburg. 

1037
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,040
So yeah, I mean, it is, you're 
right, there's a lack of 

1038
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,160
consistency. 
But I just feel like there could

1039
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:21,040
be a little more variation of 
the seeding of players versus 

1040
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,360
the ranking of players, 
especially surface by surface, 

1041
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:26,960
you know? 
Yeah. 

1042
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,400
It's just, it's, I feel like if 
you look at the macro trends of 

1043
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,760
the sport, I feel like they're 
taking discretion out of it. 

1044
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,800
Oh yeah. 
And I, and I think that that's 

1045
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,400
kind of a, that's a universal 
thing. 

1046
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,440
Everything's automatic. 
You know, it's like you, you 

1047
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,280
can't argue with the line calls 
and and frankly, frankly, I 

1048
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:53,280
just, I feel like as a as a 
world's like we, we love to 

1049
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,960
argue too much. 
You know what I mean? 

1050
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,080
It's it's. 
Like I do not. 

1051
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:00,320
How dare you? 
20 or 30 years ago, yeah, maybe 

1052
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,880
if you had if you had seating 
that was fully at the discretion

1053
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,440
of the tournament, the world 
would just accept it because, 

1054
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,400
like, no one is like jumping on 
their Twitter and like, these 

1055
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,080
echo chambers aren't amplifying 
the anger. 

1056
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,400
And Can you imagine? 
Just like the nationalism that 

1057
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,560
gets involved, like, like that 
xenophobic. 

1058
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,800
And it's like you like, you 
know, just because my players 

1059
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,080
from you know, Kazak, like, like
you wouldn't let them be in 

1060
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,160
their their proper earned 
seating. 

1061
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,320
It's like it's just so it's. 
Too fractious? 

1062
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,000
Yeah, No, that's exactly, 
exactly, exactly. 

1063
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,760
So it's like, they're just like,
we're gonna, we're gonna take 

1064
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,600
all the, all, all the possible 
vulnerabilities out of it and 

1065
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,320
we're just gonna, it's gonna be 
pure math. 

1066
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,240
And that's when it's gonna be 
which like, listen, I, I think 

1067
00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:47,040
you totally have an argument. 
Like I think it'd be way more 

1068
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,920
fun. 
Exactly, exactly. 

1069
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,320
But humans, we take the fun out 
of everything. 

1070
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,040
There are some really cool first
round matches though. 

1071
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,440
This is what I love. 
There's so much depth on both 

1072
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,840
sides of the tour where it's 
like like right out of the gate 

1073
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,000
and there's not as many Guineas 
as there used to be. 

1074
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,360
So I mean, some of the jump out 
are Herkash versus Fonseca. 

1075
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,440
I forget. 
Are you like a big Fonseca stand

1076
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,280
yet or are you kind of waiting 
for him to get his driver's 

1077
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,720
license? 
I would not say that I'm a Stan.

1078
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,800
I definitely see him as this 
extremely nascent talent. 

1079
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:29,440
I remember when on running, you 
know, picked up him and what it 

1080
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,520
was, who are there, who are 
there. 

1081
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,280
It was IGA. 
It was. 

1082
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,560
Shelton. 
I guess like Shelton. 

1083
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:41,480
Yeah, Kaboli and Fonseca, and 
this was a few years ago and it 

1084
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,720
was like you could tell that 
they were making bets. 

1085
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:46,120
But I'm like, if Roger Federer 
is like making bets on these 

1086
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,440
players, and I bet that there's 
something to watch and like, 

1087
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,280
honestly, those seats have 
sprouted. 

1088
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:56,200
But like, he's, he's young. 
Like I, I don't. 

1089
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:57,720
We'll, we'll see. 
We'll see. 

1090
00:55:57,720 --> 00:55:59,560
I think he's definitely going to
be in the upper echelons. 

1091
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,920
But like his results, the last 
couple months haven't actually 

1092
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,320
been all that great. 
So we'll see. 

1093
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,720
Yeah, Yeah. 
But I think it's, I mean, there 

1094
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:10,040
could be a good, good test for 
either one of them, though. 

1095
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,520
Whoever takes that, it's gonna 
be a meaningful victory. 

1096
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,560
Yeah, and and her catch just 
just beat Fritz. 

1097
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,320
Yeah, exactly today, yeah. 
Which nobody, nobody expected to

1098
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,760
happen. 
So it's like her catch is hot, 

1099
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,240
he's on a roll, so let's see. 
What happens? 

1100
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:24,480
Yeah. 
No one expects anyone to beat 

1101
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:30,720
Fritz on clay, Sir. 
The women's side, we've got a 

1102
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:35,560
couple of really cool matches. 
Osaka Badosa kind of a pick em I

1103
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,680
mean. 
But if Padosa's back is not 

1104
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,200
broken or blown out. 
That's the thing, I feel like 

1105
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,000
you're catching me on some sort 
of cynical day or something, cuz

1106
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,040
I just feel like I've got 
nothing nice to say when it's 

1107
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,720
like, I want to be in my mind, 
this ray of light and 

1108
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,280
positivity, but it's like no 
Osaka padosa. 

1109
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,640
Yeah, it feels like which player
is going to beat themselves and 

1110
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,040
like for on Badosa side, it's 
like, is her body, is her body 

1111
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,000
going to hold up? 
I love both these players. 

1112
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,440
I would love to see either of 
them when I love what they 

1113
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,920
brought to the sport. 
But it's like, yeah, I just, I 

1114
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:14,120
feel like it's going to be like 
not, not which player is is 

1115
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,600
better at winning, but which 
player is, you know, snatching 

1116
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,720
defeat from the jaws of victory.
I think I think that could 

1117
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,560
happen, but I think who could 
also just be a top tier match 

1118
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,440
where it's like, oh shit, like 
we don't know, like really, like

1119
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,520
they they both have. 
The game I I hope so. 

1120
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,680
Yeah, yeah. 
I mean it's. 

1121
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,080
It's exciting. 
They do. 

1122
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:36,400
And yeah, and we know, you know,
as as we've talked about, we 

1123
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,080
know that Osaka has tripped back
down to the 125. 

1124
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,920
So there's actually been a huge 
confidence booster for her, her 

1125
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,320
game, especially on clay. 
So it's like she's coming into 

1126
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,480
it with some momentum. 
It's like I'd love to see her 

1127
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,840
capitalize. 
On that, yeah, Before we wrap 

1128
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,880
up, I got to know who's going to
win the tournament, so I've got 

1129
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:56,880
my picks. 
Do you want to? 

1130
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,840
Do you want me to say my pick, 
or do you want to give me your 

1131
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,680
pick? 
You give me yours first. 

1132
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,520
OK, So for the men, it's going 
to be Onyx Center and I think 

1133
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,200
then we're going to have to 
start having a conversation 

1134
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,640
about the calendar Grand Slam 
because I think he's going to be

1135
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,280
more focused, stronger, less 
stressed. 

1136
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,520
It's not his home crowd after 
Rome. 

1137
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,520
And I think that he and his draw
is not bad. 

1138
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:28,080
And like what he did to Casper 
Rude in the quarterfinals of 

1139
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:32,520
Rome was such a spanking. 
You don't see that on the men's 

1140
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,480
tour. 6 love 61. 
And like that was just the to 

1141
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,880
another top tender who had just 
won 1000 level tournament. 

1142
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,800
So I've got he slapped him down.
I've got him. 

1143
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,000
Yeah, I've got him taking that. 
And then for the women, it's 

1144
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,160
it's going to be Mira. 
I know I should say Sabalenka, 

1145
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,040
but I actually think it's going 
to be a Catch Fire girl. 

1146
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:56,120
It could be an Ostapenko, it 
could even be an A Somova, but I

1147
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,000
think it's going to be Mira. 
She made the semis last year. 

1148
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,880
She beat Sabalinka in the 
quarters last year, crapped out 

1149
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,400
in the semis because of like, I 
think a little bit of like 

1150
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,520
nerves. 
But now she's won some big 

1151
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,400
stuff. 
I think Mira is going to take 

1152
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,560
it. 
So those are my picks. 

1153
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,120
What do you got? 
Those are good picks. 

1154
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,080
I'm into it. 
OK, I'm going to be, I'm going 

1155
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,920
to be even a little bit more out
there just because I feel like 

1156
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,640
it so. 
On the. 

1157
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:27,240
Men's side, I'm going to say the
winner is going to be Yakov 

1158
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,680
Menchik. 
I actually had. 

1159
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,480
I had picked Menchik to win a 
slam last year. 

1160
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,640
And then how did? 
That go then he he withdrew 

1161
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,720
before the tournament started. 
So I was like my picker wasn't 

1162
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,840
firing on that one. 
But but you're what you're like.

1163
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,000
My oh what? 
No, my pickle. 

1164
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,640
Oh, your Oh, sorry. 
My pickle. 

1165
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,160
Your accent. 
Yeah. 

1166
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,120
Wait. 
Sorry, but I, I feel like he's 

1167
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,520
been, he's been loading in the 
background and I feel like, I 

1168
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,400
feel like he's going to be the 
catch fire player on this on the

1169
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,880
men's side and then on the 
women's side, I'm going to go 

1170
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,920
with Svidalita. 
I think I don't, I don't think 

1171
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,360
she's ever been better. 
I don't think she's ever been 

1172
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,800
better and I think it's her time
for a slam. 

1173
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,960
And again, I just the narrative 
of this year to me has been it's

1174
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,920
never the people you think it's 
going to be. 

1175
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,520
And so those are the people who 
I'm picking. 

1176
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,000
I think I, you know, I don't 
even, I don't even really think 

1177
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,200
she has an, an outside chance. 
I think it's a very inside 

1178
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,800
chance. 
But I just feel like she just 

1179
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,240
isn't. 
Hasn't quite been in that 

1180
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,360
conversation, but I'm putting 
her in. 

1181
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:42,240
I I would be so happy. 
I would cry. 

1182
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,880
I would feel as good as when 
Maddie Keys won. 

1183
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:50,600
If Svidelina won like that, that
would feel amazing for I could 

1184
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,880
dozens of reasons. 
I'm worried though. 

1185
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:58,880
She always gets to the semis and
she always loses the semi. 

1186
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,600
Like I just I'm I'm worried she 
keeps running into Sabalinka in 

1187
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,080
the court like I if she just 
gets on the right. 

1188
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,320
Side teen Wynn just beats 
Sabalinka. 

1189
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,760
You know, it's like, it's like 
they're these these Titans. 

1190
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,960
They're not infallible. 
No, they, they can be slaves. 

1191
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,000
Yeah. 
And I feel like, and that's the 

1192
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,080
thing. 
And and, and when Sidolina 

1193
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,880
smells blood in the water, he 
will win that match. 

1194
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,560
Like she when she senses an 
opening, she will dig down. 

1195
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,960
To her core. 
And like, come on. 

1196
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,160
Especially if it's a Russian or 
Belorussian player. 

1197
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,800
Yeah, yeah. 
Like she's, oh, she's taking it.

1198
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,720
She's taking. 
It What if she smells Coco or 

1199
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:37,160
Jasmine in the water? 
Is that then she's going to be 

1200
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,080
like she's like take a bath. 
She's going to be like, can we 

1201
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,120
can we actually postpone my 
match of the night session? 

1202
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,040
I need to go buy bath and. 
Body works immediately. 

1203
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,800
I got this gift card. 
OK, who is going to be the 

1204
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,560
Italian hottie? 
Who's going to make the best 

1205
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,400
run? 
Because there's just so many 

1206
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,120
Italian hotties. 
Yes, there are. 

1207
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,640
Well, it's I think Baratini 
withdrew. 

1208
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,920
Yeah, that guy. 
Poor guy. 

1209
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,840
I I don't think Sinner is really
a hottie so I'm not going to 

1210
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,640
include him in the conversation 
and it makes him more 

1211
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,760
interesting to take him out. 
Yeah, he's one enough. 

1212
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:19,120
And he's a ginger. 
Like Kaboli, I don't really feel

1213
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,160
like is like is in his moment 
right now. 

1214
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,600
I don't feel like he's in his 
rhythm. 

1215
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:29,080
I'm going to go with Dardari. 
I feel like Dardari has had a 

1216
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:33,720
really good last couple months. 
I mean, very much like this is 

1217
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,880
he's he's a real long shot 
because like he's not that 

1218
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,480
highly ranked, but you know, 
these young, he's young enough 

1219
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,120
that I feel like maybe maybe 
this is his breakthrough moment.

1220
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,240
Luciano Dardari, I'm watching 
you. 

1221
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,440
All right, well. 
Well, my pick is actually is 

1222
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:51,120
Caboli, not to win, but just to 
have a good run. 

1223
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:52,560
Yeah, I think he's going to take
out Sverb. 

1224
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,000
I think he's going to make it to
the fourth round. 

1225
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,400
I think. 
I think that that's he's going 

1226
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,680
to be the Zverev Slayer because 
I think, I think we can all 

1227
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,520
agree that Zverev is going to 
lose, but I think he's going to 

1228
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,440
lose before the quarters. 
Yeah. 

1229
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,120
What other dark horses do you 
have? 

1230
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,440
So who else is going to just 
make a great run? 

1231
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,120
Who's the storyline that you're 
curious about? 

1232
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,720
I'd love it. 
I'd love it if Ava lease went 

1233
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,600
deep again. 
It's like this was her new 

1234
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,680
narrative. 
If if, if if she was like the 

1235
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,640
anti pagula where it's like she 
she peeks at slams versus like 

1236
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,600
crashes out at slams, Yeah, then
then I would love it. 

1237
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,240
Well, you know who she's playing
in the first round? 

1238
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:29,840
She. 
Think. 

1239
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,840
Peyton Sterns, who just made the
semis. 

1240
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,480
Oh, that's kind of a that's a 
fun match. 

1241
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,240
I mean, I would give that one to
Peyton, but like, yeah, but but 

1242
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,080
yeah, either one, like I, I 
love. 

1243
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:43,680
It that's a I'm excited for that
too. 

1244
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:48,760
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, on the men's side, you 

1245
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,760
know who I'd love to see go deep
and I don't think it's going to 

1246
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,400
happen, but. 
Oh, I bet. 

1247
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,120
Brainia Busta, he was he was the
last person to sneak into the 

1248
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,120
draw. 
Like he was like literally, I 

1249
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,120
think he's ranked 100. 
He's up against another. 

1250
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,440
He's up against Comasana. 
Coman Sanya. 

1251
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,240
Coman Sanya. 
You know what? 

1252
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,160
Yeah, Coman Sanya. 
Actually, I feel like he's a 

1253
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:09,920
player who could win that 
quarter. 

1254
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,560
But Karina Busta, just for 
nostalgia. 

1255
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,880
And like, I love AI, love a 
player who's come back from a 

1256
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,440
long injury. 
Like I would love to see him go 

1257
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:17,760
deep. 
Well, that's a really. 

1258
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,640
Honestly, he won't. 
I mean, he's not, he's not even,

1259
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,400
he's not even much of A clay 
core player. 

1260
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:22,800
Yeah, especially for being 
Spanish. 

1261
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,360
Well, I like Karina Busta's 
history of fighting with 

1262
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,440
Djokovic, but that's like a 
really interesting many. 

1263
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,680
It's not a quarter, it's like an
eighth of the draw, but it's 

1264
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:35,400
like it's with Tiafo, Karina, 
Busta, Kamasana Brooksby, your 

1265
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,120
man, Dardari and Korda. 
Interesting. 

1266
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,640
Do you have any more? 
Do you have any more dark 

1267
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,000
horses, Paul? 
Yeah, I do. 

1268
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,200
I'm always forever going to be 
like Tommy Paul can make a run. 

1269
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,560
I think he's got a good draw. 
He's going to face Casper Rude 

1270
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,920
in the fourth round, which I 
think he can take, you know, on 

1271
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,320
any given day. 
And Tommy's had some good 

1272
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,680
results on. 
As long as he doesn't get, you 

1273
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,080
know, his rackets repossessed 
or, you know, anything on the 

1274
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,160
way, he should, you know, he 
could do it. 

1275
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,680
He's also he's picked up a 
little just a little bit more 

1276
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,960
punch on his forehand. 
I think he's he's a little more 

1277
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,600
dangerous than he used to be. 
So. 

1278
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,600
And I still think Sarundolo, 
like, I don't know, he didn't 

1279
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:19,440
have the greatest roam, but I 
think Sarundolo is such a great 

1280
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,560
clay quarter And I I could see 
him really like locking in. 

1281
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,360
And then on the women, I'm just 
really excited about two Czech 

1282
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,240
players who have been gone with 
injuries. 

1283
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,960
And we don't know what's gonna 
happen, but we got your girl 

1284
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:40,480
Krajikova back finally, you 
know, Barbora Barbora. 

1285
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:45,480
And then my Barbora, my girl 
Mukova is Mookie Mooks. 

1286
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,040
The Mooks is back. 
They're both seated because 

1287
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,920
again, yeah, they had great runs
last year before crazy injuries.

1288
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,080
And so there's, I think Barbora 
is 15 and Mukova is 10. 

1289
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,440
So I don't know what's going to 
happen, but I'm going to be 

1290
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,960
watching that because, like, 
they could either one of them 

1291
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,640
could win it all or they're 
going to lose right away. 

1292
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,920
Who knows? 
Can I just say something if 

1293
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,760
there literally was like a 
nuclear war and every planet 

1294
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,680
except for Czech, Slovakia, 
Czech Slovakia, pardon me, 

1295
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:19,200
every, every country except for 
the Czech Republic got Chechia, 

1296
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,520
got got bombed off the face of 
the planet and that was all that

1297
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,360
left and somehow I was able to 
survive. 

1298
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,720
So I would watch an all Czech 
tennis tour. 

1299
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,360
I love the Czech players there, 
and there's so many of them. 

1300
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:34,480
Yeah. 
That roster is just like the 

1301
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:35,960
Italian, yeah. 
It runs so deep. 

1302
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,800
But like, like, I mean really 
more on the women's side than 

1303
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,160
the men's, but like. 
I mean, hey, what Mensa? 

1304
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,440
WTA You're Mensa. 
WTA Yeah. 

1305
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,000
And I think I, I think I told 
you I'm WT gay and I'm gay. 

1306
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,680
TV. 
So honey, we know. 

1307
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,040
So it's fine at this point. 
Well, like. 

1308
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,640
Yeah, anyways, I just like 
moment of moment of love. 

1309
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,400
Yeah, I'm making my little heart
hands at my check girlies 

1310
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:01,040
because. 
I love that if all the other 

1311
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:05,000
planets were destroyed except 
for Chechi, it was beautiful. 

1312
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:07,840
She's so pretty. 
Paul, we've been recording for 

1313
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,040
an hour. 
She's so pretty. 

1314
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,920
My brain is starting. 
To circuit. 

1315
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,280
No, no, I agree. 
And and what would you call that

1316
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,960
tour? 
Like maybe like check Hunter? 

1317
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,600
Yeah, I've never, I've never 
seen that in those movies. 

1318
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,560
I'm not sure what you're talking
about. 

1319
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,320
OK. 
And that's our show, everybody. 

1320
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,440
Thank you so much, Matthew 
Coleman. 

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What a delight to bask in your 
glory. 

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And we're going to be back with 
Matthew Coleman right after the 

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end of Roland Garros to see what
the hell happened. 

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We've made a lot of predictions 
on this show. 

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We're going to report back on 
just how correct we were on 

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every single thing that we said.
And we'll be continuing to 

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practice our Frenching in 
between now and then. 

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Matthew, Orvoir Manamis, enjoy 
Roland Garros and we will be 

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back real soon. 
Thanks everybody.