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It's time for let's get some 
ground strokes baseline. 

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It's top spin. 
That's LGBT. 

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Have a listen. 
Make some noise with the ball 

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boys. 
Hey everybody, and welcome to 

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the latest episode of The Ball 
Boys. 

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We are the tennis podcast that 
puts the butt in rebuttal and 

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the hind in hindrance. 
I'm your host, Paul Monkle. 

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I'm bringing you the insights, 
outbursts, giggles and wiggles 

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of the ATP and WTA tours. 
And we are coming to you on the 

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day of the Gay tennis Super 
Bowl. 

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Yes, I mean the Indian Wells 
final Sunday. 

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Oh, yeah, and it happens to be 
the Oscars. 

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We don't know all of the results
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took home some hardware today. 
And in some sadder entertainment

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news, we are mourning the loss 
of Sunnydale as it was just 

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announced that Buffy the Vampire
Slayer reboot was cancelled by 

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Hulu. 
And I'm sure you're all 

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thinking, wait, isn't this a 
tennis show? 

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Yes, yes it is. 
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big portion of people who are 
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extremely gay for Buffy Summers.
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wrapped up. 
We are halfway through the 

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Sunshine Double. 
And maybe some of you in the 

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desert are seeing Double from 
their signature drink, the Drop 

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Shot. 
And now Miami's come out saying,

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hey, we're not going to be 
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announced the love all froze. 
So hey, hot trend alert. 

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Every tournament is going to 
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And yes, it's going to cost $10 
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Now, Indian Wells is known as 
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And she was slammed all right, 
with parking and entrance and 

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crowds that were nearly 
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But then they wrapped things up 
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we just have one of the best 
final Sundays ever? 

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We're going to be breaking down 
all of that and more on today's 

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show. 
The desert was also the location

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of the first ever tennis and tea
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completely blew me away. 
I couldn't be more grateful for 

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everyone who was involved. 
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It was a great sense of 
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me think of the theme of today's
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to be butts. 
Yes, we are talking all things 

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butts today on the show. 
Butt double S rebuttals. 

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No ifs, ands or buts about it. 
And to get us through this pile 

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of butts, I've got the perfect 
ball boy for you. 

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He is the official model of the 
latest ball boys merch. 

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He is a rising star in the Latta
ranks and he puts the butt in. 

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But Paul, you can't say that 
it's Benjamin. 

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Kirsten. 
Hi, Ben. 

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Thanks so much for coming back 
on the show. 

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Hey Paul, thanks for having me 
back. 

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I, I was very excited to have 
you come back after your 

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incredible debut in the fall 
where I think we solved racism 

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and came up with the the the 
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hair. 
There was a lot on our 

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shoulders. 
A win. 

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Win. 
Yeah, well, you have very broad 

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statue our shoulders now. 
This is your second time on the 

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show. 
You wanted to come back for 

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more. 
You can't get enough. 

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Yeah, I did want to come back 
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I also had some things to add to
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on the show, of course. 
Sent the episode around to my 

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family and my mother's first 
response was that she couldn't 

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believe that I didn't mention 
that she got to hit with Nick 

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Bullet Terry. 
So I'm I'm here to rectify that 

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if nothing else. 
Wait, you got to hit or she got 

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to hit? 
She got to hit when she was when

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she was young. 
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tennis phenom? 
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Sure, yeah. 
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got she got to do a clinic with 
Nick Bollateri. 

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Oh wow, he was the first 
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actually going to be talking. 
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be addressing the somewhat 
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bracket. 
Do we think Nick Bollateri would

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have made it onto that bracket? 
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that one. 
A resounding well, this was. 

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Before, but he's very 
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This was before SPF was really a
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So really, tennis is in your 
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It's in the bloodlines, as they 
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Yeah. 
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you know, Ben is very difficult 
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those people with those piercing
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literally staring into my soul 
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I'm just worried he's going to 
look at my soul. 

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All he's going to find is 
pictures of Jennifer Capriati, a

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few of Serena Williams, and then
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everyone in the top 100 of the 
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So Ben, I'm just going to be 
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instead. 
Is that OK with you? 

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It is just fine. 
Great, because honestly, brown 

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eyes don't have the same effect 
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we'll be safer with that. 
Ben, you have been the source of

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some really important butts for 
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But Paul, don't make that joke 
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And you know, the jury's still 
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But I also want to give you some
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pushed me to do the tennis and 
tea dance last weekend. 

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Honestly, it could have gone 
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I don't know if it was going to 
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If it was going to be a failure,
I was going to give you a big 

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spanking. 
If it was going to be a success,

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I was going to give you a big 
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Did it work out? 
Who can never be sure, but all I

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know is I'm so glad that we did 
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It was fabulous. 
It was, it was an excellent 

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event. 
I'll, I'll wait my spanking 

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eagerly. 
You pulled out a great crowd. 

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I mean, thanks to you and the 
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the arrangements. 
Coach B ran in a wonderful live 

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ball session. 
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had such a loud cheering 
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Association or LATA and there 
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folks there. 
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mill about. 
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blessed with, you know, drag and
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Yeah, and that that was the 
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It's like, look, yes, we love 
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So, yeah, we had a couple of 
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We had Anya Body and CC Russell,
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tennis ball, Cece's number, 
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grunt into a Beyoncé song. 
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So girls, thank you. 
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a range of people there. 
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people in their mid to late 
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Hi John, loved meeting you. 
I cannot wait for you to come on

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the show. 
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gotten away from me and Ben. 
I got to say also you've got 

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some good game. 
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you're solid strokes. 
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athlete and he's played a lot of
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natural way of winding up and 
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He'll, he'll go very far with 

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that. 
He's got he's got a future, 

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although he did just start a new
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He. 
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but he's at the Oscars right 
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He's he is at the venue for the 
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Oh. 
That bitch. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Is he in a look like? 

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Is he like? 
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tux. 
I, I think in his role, you show

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up, you know, in this sort of 
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with a, a silver bow tie, a 
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It looks great. 
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that you said no, I will not go 
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I have to do the ball boys 
recording. 

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I know I. 
Believe that's what happened. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
I have these, You know, I have a

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lot of commitments and my 
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Yeah, your your heart belongs in
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Just real quick about the tennis
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Also a quick shout out to my 
fellow LGBT podcast, The Body 

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Serve and gay tennis podcast. 
They were promoting it. 

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What do you call a group of gay 
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A pod. 
So thanks guys and thanks to the

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LVBL folks who were spreading 
the word, but also you mentioned

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them gigantic shout out to out 
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crime for the event. 
There's no way it would have 

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happened without them and I am 
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do it again. 
So we will be doing it again 

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next year, folks. 
So if you weren't one of the 

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like 70 or so people that got 
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going to be bigger. 
It's going to be badder, it's 

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going to be ballsier. 
The Queens are ready and we are 

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going to throw down. 
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the action, you can also go to 
our Instagram, which is at TBB 

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tennis. 
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The TBB stands for the ball 
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So at TBB tennis and you can see
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the coverage from there. 
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And stay tuned for more tennis 
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But now it's time to get into 
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going to start off our show like
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And again, a lobsbian is just 
anything that made you gayer for

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tennis since the last show. 
I'm going to jump in with the 

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first one. 
And my lobsbian is just 

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middle-aged women reacting. 
So there are two in particular 

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that I'm thinking of, which 
we're making the rounds on on 

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social media. 
When Mira Andreva lost to 

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Sanyakova, Look, she's she's 
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ability to lose gracefully. 
And she was just shouting, you 

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know, the F word to the 
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Fuck you. 
Like it was like a, a, a guest 

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on the Maury Povich show. 
Like it was just like, yeah, I 

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don't care, Fuck you. 
And there was this amazing shot 

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of this woman whose just mouth 
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Like she was, she was what, 
clutching your pearls? 

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Looks like she could not believe
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boy's mind. 
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Draper hindrance debacle, you 
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there, there was just this 
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lean back and everyone was upset
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And she's just like Boo Boo. 
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for that one moment in time. 
It was excellent. 

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I was, I was sitting, I had my 
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or during over dinner watching 
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though my phone was muted. 
Exactly. 

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We all knew, we all know exactly
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And you know, times like these, 
we need people like that to 

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bring us together. 
So thank you. 

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Thank you. middle-aged women. 
What did? 

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Did you have a Lovian? 
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talking about this as well, but 
definitely have to give a shout 

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out to the draw of the Arizona 
Classic. 

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You know, one of the the things 
that happens is, is once players

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get are eliminated from a 
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they hop over to a challenger 
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incredible draw there. 
Ethan Quinn did get the win over

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Marcos Sharon this afternoon and
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What a great finals match. 
I mean, both solid players. 

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It's funny. 
Challengers used to be really 

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for people outside the 100, 
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in particular, I mean, last year
Fonseca beat Bublick in the 

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final. 
Like, bro, what? 

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And yeah, I mean, I was watching
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Like, it's great draws. 
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tournaments. 
I do too. 

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I got to go to the Challenger at
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balancing act because it was 
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Open. 
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won that tournament and then by 
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100 player. 
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big moves, Sebastian Korda 
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Jen Brady played it. 
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fun stories. 
Like, this player made it big 

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moves, that player made it big 
moves and Jen Brady played it. 

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I am very happy for her to be 
back on tour. 

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Very, very happy. 
I want her. 

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I want her back up in the 
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I do love her game. 
Jen Brady, it's really good to 

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see you back. 
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being real quick is just butts. 
I mean, look, the theme of the 

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episode is butts, but the butts 
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I mean, even the baggiest shorts
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you know, Fees his shorts baggy 
is all get out. 

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I mean, so the short short phase
is over, it's done. 

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But the tennis butt is bigger 
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was struggling to contain it. 
The wind against Carlos's 

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silhouette in that sort of meme 
that I know a lot of people saw,

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even Yannick Sinner. 
Yannick Sinner BBL. 

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It's true. 
And listeners, stay tuned. 

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The next Ball Boy product, it's 
going to be an at home workout 

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that we're calling the BBL. 
It's called the Ball Boy's lift,

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where you too can get a tennis 
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doing something and I want a 
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Same. 
Literally, figuratively, 

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emotionally. 
So those are our lesbians. 

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There's so many more. 
I mean, God, there's so much 

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camp and so much amazingness 
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Indian Wells. 
But we have got to move on 

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'cause there's so much action to
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So we're going to move on to 
twit. 

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And again, we cannot possibly 
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So if you're coming here for all
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more disappointed than I was 
when the ATP tried to charge 

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players and teams 5800 doll 
hairs per person for the charter

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flight out of a frickin war zone
to leave Dubai. 

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Girl, could you believe that 
they did that? 

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No, that's that's outrageous. 
Like, how insane are you? 

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Oh, yeah, please. 
We're going to help you escape a

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a city being bombed, an area 
that is endangered, but you've 

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got to pay $5800 even though we 
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tour. 
I think one player said that's 

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that's more than I would have 
won had I won the tournament. 

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Yeah, yeah, 'cause it wasn't 
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stuck, which was wild. 
He was stuck in Dubai and still 

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had his run to the final of 
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But anyway, in the name of 
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splitting twit into butt 
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So butt insurance are the things
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The butt outs, not so much. 
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overall, Mr. Benjamin. 
Was it a butt in or a butt out? 

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You know, overall it's going to 
be a butt in for me. 

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But like most things in life, 
there's a more nuanced picture 

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here. 
Listen, getting to be at a 

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tennis tournament for me is a 
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And I, I know we'll get into 
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Indian Wells, they're sort of 
one big butt out. 

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The major caveat of Larry 
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getting thanked in the speeches?
They're very much not people 

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whose pockets I want to be 
padding. 

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It felt different this year. 
More people mentioned their 

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their distaste for being 
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just in going to Indian Wells, 
than I've ever heard before. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So like, we're on to it, but is 

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it too late? 
I don't know. 

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Yeah, I mean, and it's hard. 
It's like what's, you know, a a 

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tennis lover, what's? 
A tennis lover to do. 

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Supposed to do, yeah, except 
shell out, you know, enormous 

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amounts of money for mediocre 
poke and. 

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And and bathrooms that don't 
have water. 

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Yeah, I was there, yeah. 
That was crazy. 

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So you were there. 
You told me about it and I was 

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like, Oh my God, that's wild. 
So there was no water to like, 

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wash your hands. 
Then I went. 

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Must have been hours after you 
went. 

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I didn't even know if it was the
same bathroom, but like, I also 

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could not wash my hands. 
I think they're using all the 

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water to cool data centers now. 
But like, I don't know what's 

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going on. 
But there was no water in the 

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men's room. 
What the heck? 

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Larry Ellison, 5th slam, no 
water. 

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Bonkers. 
And don't get me started on 

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Venus Williams not getting water
on on on at her match. 

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Did you see that? 
I did. 

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Where's the water? 
It's all going to data centers, 

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that's all So. 
Give me that bottle. 

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Yeah, they're like, cool. 
They're just pouring it on 

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computers now. 
That's what data centers do, 

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right? 
They just pour water on 

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computers. 
I think that's exactly how it 

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works, yeah. 
Yeah, I'm not a scientist, but I

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think that's what it is. 
Yeah. 

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And OK, so they do call Indian 
Wells the 5th slam. 

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Do we think it's still garners 
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I think so I think to to me it 
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its its place in the tennis 
calendar. 

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Certainly being one of the mixed
men's and women's thousand level

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tournaments really upsets 
profile for me. 

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I'm curious as to your thoughts 
on this too. 

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But there's a part of me that's 
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the longer format thousand level
tournaments, which I know has 

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been a big contentious subject. 
A lot of players really don't 

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like it, I know, and in a lot of
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But I will say there's something
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event, a 96 player draw that 
kind of UPS UPS the stakes. 

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So curious what you think about 
that? 

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Yeah, well, I mean, look, I just
my default answer is they are 

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not inventing any more days. 
So you if you take from 1, you 

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have to give to another and 
they're already talking about 

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the changing the schedule for 
the upcoming Saudi Arabia 

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Masters 1000. 
I think they might get to. 

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Your point that would take away 
from South America. 

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Yeah, they're going to get rid 
of Acapulco. 

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They're going to get rid of 
maybe like a one of the clay 

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courts. 
And as everyone knows, I'm a 

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softy and I'm very nostalgic. 
And so I I get attached to 

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tournaments. 
And so when they just kind of 

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get swooped away, I mean, I 
still miss calling it the 

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Virginia Slims, Not that I was 
alive then, but you know, or 

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like the the Sony Ericsson Open.
I just, you know, like there's 

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a, we get used to things and 
change is hard for, for tennis 

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players, but I mean, they're 
just the, the, the, the reality 

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is the reality. 
And so yes, I, I agree the 

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grandeur of a big tournament, 
it's like, OK, there are stakes 

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here, there is tension here. 
There's a lot, there's a lot 

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going on. 
Great, love it. 

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I just don't feel like the the 
facility of Indian Wells is that

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much better than other thousand 
level tournaments at this point.

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You know, it was like, all 
right, I got a $40 burger that 

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tasted like a brick. 
You know, the bathrooms don't 

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work and like the crowd control.
I mean you were and I were 

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texting driving in. 
I was, it was, it was hellish 

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trying to drive in that first 
Friday that I went. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
And it's just like, is this and 

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and while, yes, we were able to 
sit kind of where we wanted to 

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in in Stadium 2, which we'll get
to in a second. 

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As soon as you left, just the 
crowds and everywhere you look, 

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there's a line in a crowd. 
Where's the where's the romance?

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You know, where's the cruising 
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I just, I none of that was 
there. 

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But, and that's what makes it a 
fist slam for me, is when you 

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can cruise. 
I will say with all of that, I 

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had a very fun run in that 
Friday. 

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I wanted to see Zeynep Sonem as 
the Turkish player, her match 

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against Colin Skye which was out
on Court 9. 

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Ended up running into a friend 
of mine from college who I 

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haven't seen since 2015. 
That's cool. 

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Yeah, yeah, it's pretty fun. 
It it, it is great, you know, if

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you've been a couple times, like
it is fun to kind of run into 

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people and what not. 
I mean, I tried to run into my 

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good friend morgues, but she 
just, she wasn't returning my my

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texts, which is weird. 
I hope she's OK. 

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I do want to talk a little bit 
about just live tennis in 

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general, though. 
So look, here's where I am with 

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these tournaments, you know, 
especially these really, really 

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big ones. 
I'm not sure how necessary or 

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enjoyable it is to go to live 
tennis right now unless you have

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incredible seats, which thanks 
to the resellers, that ain't 

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happening. 
Like I'm not paying $800.00 for,

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you know, not even courtside 
like a, you know, a lower tier 

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seat. 
So you're up in the, so you and 

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I, we were up in the upper tier 
of Stadium 2 fine, lovely seats.

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But here's the problem. 
We say this a lot. 

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Tennis, it's an individual 
sport, you know, it's like all 

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about them and the court and 
figuring it out. 

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Viewing tennis live is now a 
communal experience. 

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You are at the whims, whoever 
the fuck is around you. 

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And we had to move once because 
these women behind us just were 

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really they needed. 
What were they talking about? 

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Like their caffeine addiction. 
They. 

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Loudly. 
Yeah. 

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What did she say? 
She's like, I'm just like, I'm 

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one of those people that I need 
coffee when I get up. 

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And she was like, really burying
her soul. 

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Like what a dumbass 
conversation. 

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Like just shut up, just shut up.
Like no one cares watch the 

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tennis and then we move and 
again we're still great seats. 

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But then we somehow landed in 
the kids section where every kid

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was so excited to watch Thiafo 
which I mean I also wanted to 

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mentor them of like maybe pick a
better player to started. 

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Yelling back go Brooksby at 
every thiafo cheer, Yes. 

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I was so annoyed and the only so
I was like, all right, they're 

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like go Thiafo. 
I was like, all right, go 

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Jensen. 
And you know what? 

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And I was rooting for Jensen. 
I do love Jensen Brooksby, but 

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he got trounced by Thiafo and 
honestly, Thiafo, he had a good 

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run. 
I'm I'm happy for him. 

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He's making his debut on the Bay
TP, so look at that. 

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But again, you're just you're 
surrounded by these people. 

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The seats aren't great. 
Like watching 10, like just now 

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watching the finals on TVI 
watched it. 

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I got into the match. 
I could see it when you're a, 

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you know, a couple 100 feet in 
the air. 

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It's just I don't know if I 
don't know if live tennis is 

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working right now. 
Am I wrong? 

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No, you're you're not wrong. 
I think one of the biggest 

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problems here is how hard it is 
to get up close. 

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For me, there are real 
intangibles. 

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I think things I get from seeing
tennis in person that I don't 

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get from seeing it on TV. 
And some of that is just like 

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the speed of the ball, the power
that they're able to hit with. 

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But I also, especially as I 
like, try to figure out what I'm

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doing with competitive tennis, 
looking at how players are 

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dealing with tense moments I 
find really fascinating. 

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And then I like getting these 
fun little details like 

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Shapavalov when he's bouncing 
the ball before he starts, he 

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bounces it backwards to fours 
through his legs. 

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Or, you know, you get little 
moments of player interaction 

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with the crowd. 
At the the match with Son Mez 

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and Colin Skye. 
There's quite a bit of support 

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for Son Mez, you know, very 
exciting. 

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And at one point Kalin Skya 
turns, you know, and this is an 

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outer court, so there's only a 
few rows of seating and she 

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turns and she just goes, well, 
she's preparing to serve, you 

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know. 
So, so that being said, it's 

445
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,160
like, yes, I think it's 
definitely better the closer you

446
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,480
can get, which is a real 
challenge if you're trying to 

447
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:11,680
see Alcaraz Sinner Pegula on the
bigger sodiums. 

448
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,320
And and that's where, yeah, it 
does feel like the experience 

449
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,920
drops off a little bit. 
Although I will say even from 

450
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,560
the way high up seats of Stadium
1, Donna Vekich was wearing this

451
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,560
massive diamond necklace that 
was just like sparkling to the 

452
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,680
to the skies. 
He. 

453
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,840
Was. 
Oh yeah, Oh yeah. 

454
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:33,720
It was like blinged out for her 
match. 

455
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,440
She was like Sabalenka and your 
ring. 

456
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,160
Suck it. 
I get that. 

457
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,480
And also the the the energy that
comes when you're watching a 

458
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,400
live match can be really 
intoxicating. 

459
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,120
You can get really swept up into
it. 

460
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,160
The challenge is like, you don't
know who's going to play on your

461
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,840
court to afford you buy your 
ticket and then you see the 

462
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,040
draw. 
So it's kind of like, I don't 

463
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,200
like, but if you were able, I 
mean, thinking about the Ayala 

464
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,680
and the Fonseca fans, I would 
love to go to one of those 

465
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,400
matches. 
Because then you then your 

466
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,840
expectations and what you're 
walking into you, you change. 

467
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:11,480
I'm not going to be sitting here
like a ratchet old homosexual. 

468
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,720
I'm going to chill out and have 
fun and yell and dance. 

469
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,640
And, you know, it's like, OK, 
getting into it. 

470
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,920
One thing, just another little 
note about Ayala. 

471
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:25,320
This is old hat by now, but what
she's doing for a tennis fandom 

472
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,960
is really something. 
On your recommendation, Max and 

473
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,360
I made a little visit to the the
Agua Caliente Casino in 

474
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:36,640
Cathedral City. 
We did not find your famous slot

475
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,400
machine, but we had a Filipina 
blackjack dealer who you know 

476
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,480
nothing else. 
She was pumped about Ayala. 

477
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,680
Yeah, Oh, no, it's yeah, yeah. 
Darv, who was at Tennessee 

478
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,280
dance, it's such a point of 
national pride and she had a 

479
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,960
decent run. 
Tough loss to was it was Niskova

480
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,240
who kind of, I think trounced 
her. 

481
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,640
So much pressure on her. 
I just, I worry about her a 

482
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,880
little bit. 
But she's handled it great. 

483
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,160
She seems like such a great 
person. 

484
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,440
Very excited for her and what 
she's doing and like kind of 

485
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,880
really galvanizing. 
Yeah, but that's that's a good 

486
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,040
point. 
It was always sort of my like 

487
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,880
concern around like Anschibor or
even, you know, Tiafo who just 

488
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,200
has the most incredible back 
story. 

489
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,920
It's a lot. 
It's a lot of pressure that 

490
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,120
around. 
Yeah. 

491
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,640
But Speaking of national pride, 
I will say we do need some of 

492
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,800
the US fans to get it together. 
And I'm not talking about, you 

493
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,560
know, in the way Coco said where
she really wants them showing 

494
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,760
up. 
I'm saying you gotta figure out 

495
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,600
when. 
To show up last. 

496
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,720
Well, just like you're in the 
right moments. 

497
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,840
I was one night watching a a 
double S match between Cash and 

498
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,800
Tracy and Cabral and Meadler. 
First of all, the lights went 

499
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,280
out during that match, which was
kind of crazy. 

500
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,680
It was the last match going on 
that day. 

501
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,040
They had to feed the data center
the. 

502
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:05,800
Lights went out, they had bugs, 
but Cabral took a ball like it 

503
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,240
got him right in the ear. 
And as soon as it happened, 

504
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,160
there were tears from the crowd.
Like USAUSA, it's like maybe 

505
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:19,040
they were trying to. 
Do like an auditory test to see 

506
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,720
his, to test his hearing like 
you over here an S over there 

507
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,480
maybe. 
But yeah, no, that that's funny.

508
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,600
It, it, I, I went to the French 
Open maybe almost 10 years ago 

509
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,440
now. 
I mean, 2017 and there was this 

510
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,080
one woman and it was, it was an 
Izner match and Izner on clay. 

511
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,680
I think it was like the second 
round and he was getting 

512
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,040
trounced. 
Every changeover she would just 

513
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,960
chant USAUSA and by the and 
everyone was like kind of like 

514
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,840
head down, like gross. 
But then by the end of it, it 

515
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,560
was like the third set he would 
down 2 sets to love down a break

516
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,680
or two. 
People started chanting with her

517
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,640
just 'cause it was hilarious, 
'cause it was like bless your 

518
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,520
heart miss thing. 
So anyway, I don't know live 

519
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,760
tennis right now. 
I'm excited to I want to go to 

520
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,440
the Arizona classic. 
I want to go to the US clay 

521
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,800
court championships in Houston. 
I want to go to two 50s and five

522
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,400
hundreds, 1000 levels. 
I will probably be sitting it 

523
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,640
out unless, you know, there's a 
ball boy suite with all the 

524
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,240
balls that I can fit in my 
hands. 

525
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,800
But also 11 quick tip listeners.
I was telling people this at the

526
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,680
Tennis and T Dance. 
When you are buying a ticket to 

527
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,240
one of these big stadiums, buy 
the cheapest, absolute cheapest 

528
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,400
ticket that you can find. 
Because you know what? 

529
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,440
Because of the resellers, half 
that stadium is going to be 

530
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,440
empty. 
So you just get in and you sit 

531
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,480
as close as you want. 
I bought the worst ticket in 

532
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,440
stadium 2. 
I was in the front row of the 

533
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,760
upper tier of stadium 2. 
Tickets that would have cost me 

534
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,920
400 I got for $80.00. 
So you know what? 

535
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,080
While these resellers and 
capitalists don't give a crap 

536
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,200
about you, let's not give a crap
about them. 

537
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,320
And so get the cheapest ticket 
possible and just move on down. 

538
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:11,280
But let's talk some results. 
So we've had a busy, busy time 

539
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,680
the last few days. 
We had the semis and the finals 

540
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,240
for both the ATP and WTA. 
Like I said, we're gonna talk 

541
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,520
about some of the other matches,
but just recapping the ends of 

542
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,160
these tournaments. 
So the semi finals for the men, 

543
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,000
interesting matchups. 
We had Carlitos, Carlos Alcaraz 

544
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,680
against Daniel Medvedev and we 
had Jonak Sinner against some 

545
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:39,640
German guy Zverev and Carlos had
not lost a match in 2026, but he

546
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,880
finally lost one in a pretty 
convincing fashion against good 

547
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,520
old Daniel Medvedev. 
I loved it. 

548
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,400
I mean, it's interesting. 
I love the rise of Daniel 

549
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,120
Medvedev. 
I know he's got some issues 

550
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,520
politically. 
I love his personality. 

551
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,160
I love his game. 
I love his game. 

552
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,160
He did to Carlos what he did to 
FAA in Dubai when he wore Felix 

553
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,400
Ojalia. 
See him down in that semi final.

554
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,480
I've never seen Carlos Alcaraz 
gasp before. 

555
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,320
He was gassed. 
He went so far as to take a 

556
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,400
violation because he's like, I'm
just I. 

557
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,280
He needed more time because 
Medvedev, he had him on a 

558
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,800
string. 
It was mild to watch. 

559
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,040
Yeah, it seems like some of the 
the the pressure of trying to 

560
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,480
figure out what to do against a 
human backboard who's just gonna

561
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,840
get every ball back. 
And so Carlos started like so we

562
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,080
saw a lot more errors than we're
used to seeing from him. 

563
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,000
So many more errors and I don't 
know if this is like a chip in 

564
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,400
the armor, but I, I was saying 
at the beginning of the year, 

565
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,240
like I, I do not think the move 
away from Juan Carlos Ferrero 

566
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,680
was a good move. 
And I don't know, I've never 

567
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,000
seen him gasp before. 
I've never seen him more make 

568
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,600
more mistakes. 
Is he training the way he used 

569
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,520
to train? 
Does he have the mindset? 

570
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,760
Does he have the people telling 
him the things that he needs to 

571
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,560
hear? 
I don't know. 

572
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,680
But it was a convincing win by 
Medvedev and and also thank God 

573
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,480
I needed to shake up. 
Not that Carlos and Yannick have

574
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,920
met a ton of times this year, 
but it was like, it gets boring 

575
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,120
when it's the same old, same 
old. 

576
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,640
Like I, we need at least four or
five guys in the mix. 

577
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,520
I said it every time I go to the
Eagle and I said it every time 

578
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,680
we go to the Masters. 1004 or 
Five Guys minimum. 

579
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,960
Yeah, I don't. 
It helps combat the sense of 

580
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,120
inevitability, and I think 
that's crucial here. 

581
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,760
Again at the Eagle. 
Sense of inevitability. 

582
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,640
Yeah. 
And then Sinner cruises through 

583
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,080
Zverev, which was, you know, 
just a delight as always. 

584
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,520
And then we had a a final 
between Sinner and Medvedev 

585
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,400
where neither one had lost a set
coming into the final. 

586
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,040
Very rare. 
I was pulling for Mehdi once 

587
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,360
again. 
Like, I don't know what Mehdi. 

588
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,040
He's just, he had Carlos on a 
string and he has my heart on a 

589
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,280
string. 
I don't know what it is, but I 

590
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,680
love Danielle Medvedev. 
I said it, I said it. 

591
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,800
Sorry, Tommy Paul, but Janek 
wins in a couple tie breaks that

592
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,400
match. 
What'd you think? 

593
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,400
The margins were so slim, which 
made it a real nail biter, I 

594
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,160
think. 
Yeah, I think watching them, you

595
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,600
know, really kind of battle each
other from the baseline was very

596
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,800
exciting. 
It really could have gone either

597
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,240
way. 
Oh, yeah, Mehdi was up in the 

598
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,760
second set tie break. 
And then he just kind of I, I 

599
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,360
don't know what happened, but he
just shut down. 

600
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,840
And because I think if they got 
to 1/3 set, although Medvedev 

601
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,520
was starting to look a little 
gassed, but famously Yannick 

602
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,560
Sinner, he Wilts like a desert 
flower. 

603
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,800
So if they went to 1/3 set, who 
knows what would have happened. 

604
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,720
I guess I'm happy for him. 
I do like Yannick Sinner a lot. 

605
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,840
I just love. 
I don't know if I haven't made 

606
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,960
it clear how I feel about Daniel
Medvedev. 

607
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,440
There's still a little question 
mark for me. 

608
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:03,480
I love Daniel Medvedev. 
It seems like Sinner went out to

609
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:08,120
the desert early, and so he got 
to, you know, maybe acclimate to

610
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,600
that, the heat. 
A little more out in the middle 

611
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,640
of Joshua Tree. 
To find your way back. 

612
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:22,800
Like half a cup of water. 
Medvedev, his net game, I feel 

613
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,440
like it's not, you know, it's, 
it's clearly not where he's he's

614
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,040
comfortable so. 
More like a more like a Niat 

615
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,880
game. 
There we go. 

616
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,440
You know, between this and even 
even there was like a moment in 

617
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:40,360
his semi final with Carlitos 
where he finds himself up at the

618
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,000
net and he's just like oh please
don't please just like don't hit

619
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,800
me. 
It's like, OK, it's funny 

620
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,840
because like you would think 
with his wingspan and his 

621
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,440
tentacles he would be great. 
But yeah, the closer he gets to 

622
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,640
the net, the the less he's magic
he's able to somehow. 

623
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,680
Perform, you know, so once 
Sinner was able to find that 

624
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,640
pass and felt like it really. 
Oh, yeah, yeah. 

625
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,080
No, there it really. 
You're right. 

626
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,000
It was a match of points. 
I mean, it really could have 

627
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,159
gone either way. 
And, you know, I'm excited. 

628
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,480
I'm excited for Miami. 
Now Novak has pulled out, which 

629
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,280
is unfortunate. 
Like, look, the older Novak 

630
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,040
gets, the more I love him and I 
just love that kid. 

631
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,800
I feel like Mary Carrillo. 
But I think it's I think again, 

632
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,360
it's going to be wide open. 
I don't know. 

633
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,360
Is Carlos going to come back and
be pissed or we also know he 

634
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,639
loves to party in Miami? 
True, true. 

635
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:32,400
Well, maybe that'll help his 
conditioning, you know? 

636
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,639
Been dancing all night. 
Exactly endurance. 

637
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,679
Yeah. 
Do you have a do you have a pick

638
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:43,480
for Miami? 
I could see it going to Alcaraz.

639
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,000
I mean it's hard to you know, I 
know that's is kind of like the 

640
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,960
Derek were like boring pick, but
it feels like after dropping 

641
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,639
this, he's not going to let that
happen again. 

642
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,880
But who knows? 
Miami last year he went out to 

643
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,680
go fan like very early yeah, 
yeah, I. 

644
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,480
Don't think it's his favorite 
place. 

645
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:10,120
I'm gonna give a a some good 
odds to my boy, my boys, Arthur 

646
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:17,520
Fees looking so good or the guy 
he beat, Felix Ojay Alesim. 

647
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,200
I think neither one of them has 
had a great run at 1000 levels 

648
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:24,920
and I think they're due and I 
think they're both in form, so 

649
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,320
depends on the draw. 
We'll see. 

650
00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:29,120
We'll see. 
You know, I also feel like 

651
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,520
Fonseca made real strides here 
and to. 

652
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,960
See him back winning some 'cause
he was out of shape. 

653
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,080
Yeah. 
He did not look good in 

654
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,520
Australia. 
But you didn't like the shaved 

655
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,640
head? 
No, I love the shaved head, but 

656
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,440
like, well, I mean, come on. 
Also, like all the shade that 

657
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,280
Jack Draper got for that shaved 
head. 

658
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,000
You know what? 
He threw shaded himself. 

659
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,120
Didn't he say something like I 
thought I had a better hairline 

660
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,760
than this? 
Oh, did he? 

661
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,200
Oh. 
That's funny, something like 

662
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,960
that. 
Look, I, I love a baldy, so you 

663
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,240
know, that's, that's where I'm 
at. 

664
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:08,040
But anyway, the women Speaking 
of non bald people, the women. 

665
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,080
So the semis we had the semi 
finals. 

666
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,720
Honestly, I was not impressed by
either of these matches. 

667
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:18,600
We had Sobolinka beating 
Nosekava, Rebecca beating 

668
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,800
Svidolina. 
They were quality, but there was

669
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,440
no real tension. 
I don't know. 

670
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,560
I, I, I just wasn't loud. 
But I will say I finally get 

671
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,920
Noskova a little bit. 
She's never been my Czech girly.

672
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,160
I mean, you know who I love? 
Daniel Medvedev and the Czech 

673
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,680
girlies. 
Give me a Krajikova, give me von

674
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:47,120
Druseva, give me a Mukova. 
Noskova, not so much, but she is

675
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,800
a big babe. 
Tennis and I like I finally like

676
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,760
really watched her and I was 
like oh wow, impressive so. 

677
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,040
Yeah, I, I, I agree. 
I think it upped my, my kind of 

678
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,840
understanding of her a little 
bit. 

679
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,960
I thought, you know, at one 
point maybe she was kind of 

680
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,960
like, you know, a flash at the 
pan having like big wins over 

681
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,960
Ego at Grand Slams. 
But now, yeah, maybe I get a 

682
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,880
little more. 
Yeah, I thought she was like an 

683
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,680
Anna Czech vedazzi, but maybe 
she's more of like a Meskina. 

684
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,560
We'll see. 
But then we get the final. 

685
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,720
We get this final between 
Sablinka and Rabaka that just 

686
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,280
happened a few hours ago. 
What a match. 

687
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,560
Yeah, that was very gripping, 
kind of beginning to. 

688
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,080
I mean, it was very topsy turvy.
It felt like it was going to go 

689
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,600
one way and then it swung back 
the other way and then I mean it

690
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,160
was in a real nail biter right 
up until the last, the last 

691
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,160
ball. 
And quality, it wasn't somebody 

692
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,160
lost it. 
Somebody stepped up and won it. 

693
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,840
I mean, and it could have been 
either of them. 

694
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,480
Yeah. 
I mean, Rabacana was up in that 

695
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,280
third set tie break. 
It really could have gone her 

696
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,880
way. 
And Sabalenka impressed me with 

697
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,640
her ability to kind of right the
ship at the very end. 

698
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:03,400
And it was again, big babe 
tennis, amazing power, but not 

699
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,080
just sort of serve body. 
No, there were, there were some 

700
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,920
moments where they would be 
tussling and then, you know, I'm

701
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,480
thinking about a couple of shots
from Rebekina, but she could 

702
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,720
just switch the pattern and take
a forehand down the line. 

703
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:20,600
That was, you know, it was 
masterful. 

704
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,640
Yeah, yeah. 
There was a lot of guile and 

705
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,960
strategy and really, I mean, is 
this the match of the year on 

706
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,040
the women's side so far? 
Yes, I think it probably is so 

707
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,320
far I. 
Think so too. 

708
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:42,280
This solidified them kind of as 
the Carlos Sonjanic like head 

709
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,160
and shoulders, not just because 
they're tall, but head and 

710
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,400
shoulders above the rest. 
And I'm excited about this 

711
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,840
rivalry. 
It's funny, I don't I don't 

712
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,520
really love either player. 
I'm not like, Oh my God, that's 

713
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,440
my girl. 
But I'm excited for them because

714
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,320
I want tension in matches, I 
want tension in finals. 

715
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:09,840
I don't want 6162 score lines. 
And the next time they meet 

716
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,960
again, it's going to be, who 
knows? 

717
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,720
It's going to be pick em. 
And I'm glad that Rebecca has 

718
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,440
really kind of pulled herself 
back up. 

719
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,160
And again, I mean, her whole 
thing with her coach and Lukov 

720
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,120
and all that, not ideal, not 
ideal. 

721
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,800
And yet she is playing the way 
she's playing. 

722
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,320
Absolutely. 
And I kind of love that she 

723
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,040
like, doesn't really give a fuck
what you think. 

724
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,720
Like she's just kind of like, 
Nah, I'm doing it this way. 

725
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,600
And it's. 
Like she doesn't need me to 

726
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,640
agree with her decision, but I 
kind of think it's badass that 

727
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,080
she's doing what she wants to 
do. 

728
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,520
I mean, in a way she is looking 
out for for herself and what 

729
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,800
she's got to do. 
And yeah, it's also very 

730
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,880
patronizing to be like, Oh my 
God, she's a victim. 

731
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:55,800
She's like, no, I'm not a 
victim. 

732
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,760
I'm just doing what I want to 
do. 

733
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,760
Screw you. 
So yeah, OK, great. 

734
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,240
We've solved sexism in this 
episode. 

735
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,480
First episode, racism, this one,
sexism. 

736
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,520
What do we do next? 
Capitalism. 

737
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,400
But real quick, let's talk about
just some of our favorite butt 

738
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,160
insurance of the tournament. 
So the things that we loved, 

739
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,440
there were some great matches on
the men's side until this final 

740
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,080
between Mehdi and Sinner. 
The match of the tournament was 

741
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:25,120
for me, Novak and Draper. 
That match, Oh my God, great 

742
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,680
quality. 
Leaving it all out in the line. 

743
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,120
I mean, some of those rallies 
were so insane. 

744
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,760
Again, I I have a history of 
being a little indifferent 

745
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,120
towards both of these men 
because of their politics and 

746
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,560
just, you know, various 
legitimate reasons. 

747
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,040
But I was into it. 
It's it was pretty hard to deny.

748
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,640
I mean, the the level that they 
each produced was incredible. 

749
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,840
And, and of course, I mean, 
there was the point scene around

750
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,360
the world where, you know, I 
think Djokovic had to run up to 

751
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,000
the net two times, retrieve a 
far lob and then still, you 

752
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,160
know, managed to eat the point 
out over Draper. 

753
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,720
It was really something else. 
I mean, yeah. 

754
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:06,400
And those are the points that 
people used to just kind of give

755
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,480
up on and be like, OK, they won.
Now it's like, oh, no, I can 

756
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,120
defy physics and I can get to 
this ball before it drops. 

757
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,680
Like, whoa. 
You know, we talk a lot about 

758
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,640
how the tennis racket has 
changed. 

759
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,400
I feel like the tennis shoe has 
changed too. 

760
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,080
There's more grip. 
It's easier to get stop and 

761
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,200
start and slide. 
And it's like we didn't do that 

762
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,880
before. 
I it's impressive. 

763
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,960
Also a quick shout out. 
I got to say to Lerner Tien, his

764
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,920
match with Davidic Fukina was 
fantastic. 

765
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,520
I feel really bad for Davidic 
Fukina just because I really 

766
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,640
want him to get he wasn't going 
to win this tournament. 

767
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,200
I want him to win a freaking 
tournament, but he has such a 

768
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,960
history of tough losses. 
Yeah. 

769
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,080
It makes me sad. 
Yeah, I mean, I'll never forget 

770
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:56,880
Demon or like, comforting him in
tears at the DC Open, but yeah. 

771
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,720
My heart, my Shayla. 
Yeah, yeah, we can hopefully one

772
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:02,640
day see Davidovich, Vikina get 
one. 

773
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,520
But major, major shout out to 
Lerner TN. 

774
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,800
That was that was where Max 
Knight beelined as soon as we 

775
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,440
showed up to the tournament, to 
his, his first match out there 

776
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,440
on in Round 2. 
He's he's incredible to watch. 

777
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,120
I mean his his, his spot 
surveying, his sort of ability 

778
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,000
to find the angles. 
Going back to the live tennis 

779
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,960
debate, I think that someone 
like Lerner, TN is much more 

780
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,160
impressive live than on TV. 
On TV, the serve's not a ton of 

781
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,320
pop, and it's like, yeah, it's a
good, solid game. 

782
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,880
But I, I, I feel like seeing 
that live, you see the mechanics

783
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,400
much more closely. 
And. 

784
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,840
Yeah, yeah. 
All right, I'll give you that 

785
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,160
one. 
Just this one time. 

786
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,800
We also had some great runs. 
We've mentioned these a little 

787
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,640
bit, but Fonseca, great to see 
him get some wins under his 

788
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,240
belt. 
I got to say though, his first 

789
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:58,240
round match, I forget who he 
played the first round, but 

790
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,320
Stadium was half full. 
I've never seen a Fonseca match 

791
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,720
not filled to the gills and 
again I think it's because the 

792
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:11,320
resellers so Boo but but great 
to see him back. 

793
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,560
Yeah, his wins then over also 
Kachanov and Tommy Paul. 

794
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,560
They were great matches. 
Yeah, I know. 

795
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,680
And like, look, my husband Tommy
Paul, I can never root against 

796
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:29,000
him, but he got, he got pretty 
handily taken to the woodshed by

797
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,400
to the to the chipper by 
Fonseca. 

798
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,880
So yeah, yeah. 
And we talked about him a little

799
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,720
bit about Thiafo. 
Great Ron. 

800
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:41,360
He destroyed Kaboli after Kaboli
just beat him at that Acapulco 

801
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,080
final. 
I'm still not a fan of his game.

802
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,360
His serve motion drives me 
insane. 

803
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,760
You don't serve like that, do. 
You absolutely not. 

804
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,720
But maybe I maybe I should. 
It might improve whatever I'm 

805
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:56,760
doing. 
You know one thing about Tiafo, 

806
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,560
though, his the the speed of his
racket head, the way he just 

807
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,120
like, whips it around. 
It's it's impressive. 

808
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,560
He whips that thing around like,
yeah, nobody's business. 

809
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,200
The run of the tournament though
was definitely Talia Gibson on 

810
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,480
the women's side. 
Qualifier from Australia makes 

811
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,000
it to the quarterfinals. 
She beats 3 seeds. 

812
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,080
Grant said. 
It was, I think it was Paulini 

813
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,160
and Towson and, and she actually
had a, a tough out against no 

814
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,360
scuba. 
I think they went three sets. 

815
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,680
I mean, it is fun. 
Like I, I need these people to 

816
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,240
change up the narratives. 
Every tournament there's one and

817
00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:33,440
it's one of my favorite things. 
It's like, who's going to who's 

818
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,160
going to be the story of this 
tournament? 

819
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,720
And Talia Gibson? 
Who the hell would have thought 

820
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:41,040
that at the beginning of this? 
Yeah, yeah, no, that was 

821
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,040
definitely a fun story. 
I know she's at the belle of the

822
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,240
ball currently, but Boko also 
played great. 

823
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:53,440
And one, one thing I really 
loved was watching her, seeing 

824
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,760
how much better she did this 
time against Sabalanka than at 

825
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,120
the Australian Open. 
So I I love a sort of Arc like 

826
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,000
that as well. 
And then cartel, you know, is 

827
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,720
nice to see after that run at 
Wimbledon last year, but a a 

828
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:11,000
shame it ended with with an 
injury. 

829
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,760
But I also like to see someone 
who's like, yeah, they made a 

830
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,080
deep run. 
Will you will you see them 

831
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,040
again? 
And we did. 

832
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,600
On the women's side, it was kind
of plagued by these. 

833
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,480
Not only sort of one hit wonders
where they'd win a title, but 

834
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,920
even just someone who'd make a 
deep run. 

835
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,760
And then it's like, I never 
heard the name Svetlana 

836
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,680
Peronkova again. 
It's just like, and it's hard to

837
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,280
get invested in that when it's 
like, Oh my God, it's just so 

838
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,440
chaotic. 
Yeah, I love that in Boko is 

839
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,320
really established. 
I mean, she's a top ten player 

840
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,440
now. 
She's not just a flash in the 

841
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,320
pan. 
And and you know, I hope Talia 

842
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,360
is the same Cartel. 
Absolutely. 

843
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:56,000
Cartels are having a moment and 
the last butt in is butt double 

844
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:01,440
S, So there was a lot of great 
superstar double S teams on the 

845
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,440
men's side. 
I've never seen a stacked draw 

846
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,440
like this, so I'm going to list 
off these freaking teams. 

847
00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:13,880
Novak and Sitsipas, those crazy 
cousins Rinder, Connect and 

848
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,760
Vashiro. 
Medvedev and TN, which I think 

849
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,240
there's a buddy movie there. 
Medvedev and TN like they played

850
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:22,600
each other a lot and I was I 
love that they like paired. 

851
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,200
It's like what an odd couple. 
Love it. 

852
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,800
Totally. 
Khachinov and Rublov, Sarundolo 

853
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,920
and Dardari like woof my my clay
court kings Opalka and Sinner. 

854
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,120
I'm sorry, Opalka, who famously 
said that Double S is for failed

855
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,520
singles players, is like, I'm 
gonna play with Sinner. 

856
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:42,520
I just, I love that Double S is 
getting some love. 

857
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,480
Was that the ball boy effect? 
I mean, so several episodes last

858
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,200
year, the ball boys were talking
about the importance of Double 

859
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,240
S, the enjoyment of Double S 
Suddenly you're all gonna be in 

860
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:57,800
Double S for the wells. 
I don't know. 

861
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,240
Thanks, guys. 
I'm glad you listen. 

862
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,320
Call in. 
Come on the show anytime but. 

863
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,560
Even in the mixed we had Kaboli 
and Benchich. 

864
00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:08,360
Oh yeah, when they. 
Yeah. 

865
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,080
And they won the whole title. 
They did, with the tiny little 

866
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,560
trophies. 
Girl just don't give a trophy 

867
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,520
that mixed double S trophy. 
They're gonna. 

868
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,440
They couldn't lose that. 
Oh, honey. 

869
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,680
But the good thing is I don't 
think they need to check that 

870
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,760
they, they, they can put that in
their purse and walk through TSA

871
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,680
with no worries. 
A listener was Dming me and she 

872
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,320
was like, the only thing worse 
would have been if they like had

873
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,000
to share one 'cause it was just 
like, like the tiniest little 

874
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,960
baccarat. 
Put a finger on it. 

875
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,720
Yeah, just like Boop. 
I saw that movie Hoppers last 

876
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:41,600
night. 
Have you heard? 

877
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,000
And there are many different 
animal kings with like little 

878
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,400
crowns. 
And I was like, oh, that's a 

879
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,960
little crown for the Ant. 
It's just like a tiny little 

880
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,400
little trophy, but. 
It needs to be at least 3 1/2 

881
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,520
times bigger than this. 
It needs to What is the school 

882
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,200
for ants? 
But then it was also funny to 

883
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,320
watch a lot of these superstar 
teams bottomed out early because

884
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,000
look, Double S is not just two 
singles players. 

885
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,280
I didn't see the whole match of 
Sinner playing Double S, but the

886
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,560
highlights of Sinner playing 
Double S, he did not know where 

887
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,600
to go, what to do, how to 
communicate. 

888
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:21,000
It was crazy town and I did love
the cousins making a deep run. 

889
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,840
I just I love the Rinder Connect
Vashiro family, those crazy 

890
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,720
cousins. 
It's so cute. 

891
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,600
They made the final. 
They didn't win, but they made 

892
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:38,600
the final. 
So those are all the buttons. 

893
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,440
But now it's time for some of 
the butt outs. 

894
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:46,920
The things that just kind of 
pissed us off and you know, 

895
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,040
surprise, there's quite a few, 
but we're gonna get through them

896
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,000
as much as we can. 
The first. 

897
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,560
But is that behind in hindrance?
That hindrance call against 

898
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,960
Draper late in the second set 
against Medvedev? 

899
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,080
Everyone saw it. 
Everyone has opinions. 

900
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,640
Ben, how do we feel about that 
hindrance? 

901
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:07,880
Yeah, that's definitely a butt 
out for me, very much an 

902
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,440
instance. 
I know you love him, but of, you

903
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,720
know, Medvedev finding ways to, 
you know, game his way and and 

904
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:15,960
you know, I can't knock him for 
that. 

905
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,400
That's that's it's part of the 
game. 

906
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,120
But that was pretty ridiculous. 
It was rough. 

907
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,280
It was terrible. 
I mean, no it and and he got the

908
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,640
brunt of it from the crowd. 
He got booed for anyone who did 

909
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,600
miss it. 
It was deep in the second set, 

910
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,280
and Draper had nothing in the 
tank for the first set, but he 

911
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,640
was pretty even. 
And Medvedev hit a ball that 

912
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,800
looked like it might have been 
going out, but it's electronic 

913
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,960
line calling, so there's no in 
or out. 

914
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,800
And Draper kind of raised his 
hands a little bit, but it was 

915
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,440
very subtle. 
It was I've seen a lot worse. 

916
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,880
And three, three strokes later, 
Medvedev is like, no, was that a

917
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,600
hindrance? 
Like, bro, if it didn't hinder 

918
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,840
you, it's not a hindrance. 
You're still playing a freaking 

919
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,720
point. 
And then the chair umpire, she 

920
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:02,360
looked at, she's like, yeah, 
that's a hindrance. 

921
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,880
It's the same as like when 
you're if your opponent's at the

922
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,440
net and you hit the ball at 
them, that's a fair play. 

923
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,880
I think it's fair that maybe 
that was like, well, she said it

924
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,800
was a hindrance. 
So I'm going to take the point. 

925
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,800
Yeah, yeah. 
I mean, it's like once, you 

926
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,760
know, it's at that point, you 
know, it's, it's on the umph. 

927
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:24,160
But like, she made the call that
she probably had to make, you 

928
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,520
know, at which point it's, you 
know, Medvedev gets to say, you 

929
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,400
know, it's not my fault. 
Yeah, I think other players like

930
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,680
a Carlos, like a Yannick, like a
like a many, many other play 

931
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,440
like a like a Alex Diminow or 
they would've been like no, no, 

932
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,200
no, no, that's your point or or 
or replay the point or 

933
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,760
something. 
But like, yeah, it didn't. 

934
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,640
It made me love Danielle a 
little less for that one moment 

935
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:49,920
in time. 
But we're back together so it's 

936
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,880
fine. 
The next butt out is butt those 

937
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,640
retirements. 
So I don't remember this many 

938
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,680
WTA players having retirements. 
There's been a lot of like male 

939
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,040
retirements over the years where
it's like, Oh my God, half the 

940
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,600
tours just decided now I can't 
do it. 

941
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,520
But there were some high profile
retirements. 

942
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,600
You talk about Cartel went out 
with an injury, Coco went out 

943
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,720
with an injury and then 
Senyakova. 

944
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,040
So I got a bone to pick about 
this one, Sir. 

945
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,840
So tell me if I'm if I'm crazy. 
But Senyakova, she has a great 

946
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,720
win against Andreva where 
Andreva is losing her shit. 

947
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,560
Then she goes on and she's 
playing Svitalina and she's down

948
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,880
611 love and she retires with a 
quote UN quote injury. 

949
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,000
OK, fine, whatever. 
Great You're you're you're 

950
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,920
injured. 
I hope you're OK. 

951
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,560
See you in Miami. 
She plays double S the next day 

952
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,720
with Taylor Townsend. 
They're a great double S team. 

953
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:48,480
I'm very happy for them. 
What in the Santa Maria 

954
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,360
Guadalupe like angels come down 
and heal. 

955
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,120
You happened that one day you're
better to play. 

956
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,280
Do you think she should have 
been allowed to play? 

957
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,800
I do. 
I mean, to me, I guess this 

958
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,400
feels like a question about 
players who are in the draw for 

959
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,880
both disciplines. 
I don't love a retirement. 

960
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,120
I don't love an injury. 
You know, in some cases, if 

961
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:16,280
you're like Sinyakova, who you 
know was the best, like women's 

962
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,160
double player we've got, she 
knows what side of the bread of 

963
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:25,600
bread, her butter. 
What she about your butter, her 

964
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,320
bread is buttered on. 
She knows what she's going to 

965
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,400
prioritize. 
She's probably like, I know I 

966
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,920
can win this Double S trophy. 
Yeah. 

967
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:39,200
Maybe I'll prioritize that. 
Well, then don't enter singles. 

968
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:41,720
I mean, I'm sorry, I think she 
retired because she was losing 

969
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:44,160
badly. 
And I don't think that that's 

970
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,720
very sports. 
Sportswomen like to, to just be 

971
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:50,040
like, well, I'm going to, I'm 
going to retire because there's 

972
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,200
lots of matches where people 
come back. 

973
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,760
There's lots of matches where 
people find a way. 

974
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,480
Sure. 
If we can just retire because of

975
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,120
injury and then play the next 
day, it doesn't feel right to 

976
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,280
me. 
And I love a rule. 

977
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:08,960
So for me that's a butt out. 
Diva Miss Ramen Hair, as they 

978
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,680
call her in China. 
The next butt is butt that 

979
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,360
soundtrack. 
So this is minor. 

980
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,560
I might even be like reading 
into it a little bit. 

981
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,440
But so on the Tennis Channel 
app, they don't cut away for 

982
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,640
commercials. 
You see the the changeover and 

983
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,880
there's no announcers speaking 
or commentators. 

984
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,760
You're just watching the vibes. 
And they have a DJ, not DJ John,

985
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,440
John Battles, who did the tennis
and T dance. 

986
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,960
But then this DJ and during 
women's matches, they're playing

987
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,680
very gendered music. 
And I just was like, wait, what?

988
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,880
So during the Pagula and Bensch 
match, they're playing. 

989
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,400
Girls just want to have fun and 
during Rabacana and Kostiak they

990
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,240
were playing Express yourself. 
Like come on girls, do you 

991
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:52,720
believe in love? 
Maybe because I thought I was 

992
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:54,480
watching. 
They're like, OK, we need to 

993
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,360
play this Divas of Madonna, 
which I love. 

994
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,320
But then the men put our on 
their changeovers. 

995
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,000
It's like Bruno Mars and just 
different stuff. 

996
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,880
Am I hallucinating and 
delusional or is it gender DJ 

997
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,760
music? 
Yeah, I don't think you're 

998
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,640
hallucinating because I've 
noticed this before as well. 

999
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,160
I think it stuck out in my mind 
last year even. 

1000
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,320
Obviously, right. 
These tournaments have their 

1001
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,080
playlists for various 
situations. 

1002
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,800
When I was at Cincinnati last 
time, I remember like there are 

1003
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,040
rain delays. 
They had the clearly the rain 

1004
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,440
playlist and then they had the 
playlist for after it rains. 

1005
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,080
I was like, here comes this. 
It's pretty easy to imagine that

1006
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:38,080
they have some different 
playlists for for these matches.

1007
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,200
And it's. 
Yeah. 

1008
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:42,520
It's just a it's an interesting 
choice that I've never noticed 

1009
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,160
before. 
And is it good or bad? 

1010
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,120
I don't know, But it was just 
interesting. 

1011
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,560
Yeah, I mean, I I'm here as 
someone who loves some like, 

1012
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,120
girl power pop. 
Oh. 

1013
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,520
Yeah, yeah. 
It's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, we've

1014
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,440
got a ladies match, get the 
Spice Girls out there. 

1015
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,800
And it's like, if you want to be
my love, it's like it's very, 

1016
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,880
it's a little, it felt a little 
weird. 

1017
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,160
Our last butt out is butt those 
outbursts. 

1018
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,160
So we already talked about Mira 
Andreva's complete meltdown 

1019
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,040
after losing her match. 
But there were so many smashed 

1020
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:18,120
rackets this tournament. 
Ega after her loss, Fritz. 

1021
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:22,720
Just the way Fritz breaks his 
racket after a loss is so sexy. 

1022
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,880
He just nonchalantly breaks it 
in two over his knee like it's a

1023
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,600
twig. 
And it's just like, oh diva, 

1024
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,480
Rublev completely bloodied 
himself, hitting himself. 

1025
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,760
Rublev dude, what is going on 
with him? 

1026
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,320
Yeah, I thought he was kind of 
over some of that, but I guess 

1027
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,320
not. 
Yeah, like Murat is it. 

1028
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:45,560
He's still working with Murat, 
right? 

1029
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,480
I believe so, yeah. 
I think he needs to only go to a

1030
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,320
sports psychologist. 
He doesn't need to do anything 

1031
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,440
on court. 
It's all between the ears and 

1032
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,160
it's rough. 
And then we had Arthur Fees. 

1033
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,080
The way Arthur Fees smashes A 
racket, does something to me. 

1034
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,240
It floods my basement. 
I don't know, like he it is sexy

1035
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:03,880
the way he just. 
Brought I thought this was a 

1036
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,400
butt out section. 
It seems like a butt in section 

1037
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,720
for you well. 
You know, sometimes a butt out 

1038
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:11,280
can be a butt in. 
A wise man once said. 

1039
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,520
Yes, exactly, tennis 
philosophers say. 

1040
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,240
But yes, there are lots of Butts
insurance and Butts outs. 

1041
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,600
Look, was this the greatest 
Indian Wells ever? 

1042
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,880
Maybe not. 
Was this the greatest Indian 

1043
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,640
Wells final day ever? 
Possibly, so I'll take what I 

1044
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,040
can get out in the desert. 
We have a new Bay TP that is 

1045
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,240
reflecting all of the action out
in the desert and that is going 

1046
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:39,480
to be posted over on our 
Instagram. 

1047
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:45,040
That is at TBB Tennis. 
Again, that's at TBB Tennis and 

1048
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,200
like I said, there's some new 
entries like Francis Tiafoe is 

1049
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,000
making his debut. 
Congratulations, Francis. 

1050
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,680
I know you've been working hard 
towards this, so keep up the 

1051
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,840
good work. 
Big foe and wait. 

1052
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:56,920
What time is it? 
Real quick. 

1053
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,960
I think it's about 6:15. 
No, it's time for cross court. 

1054
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,120
The cross court is back guys. 
We are back in session. 

1055
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:12,520
The court has been on recess 
because people were acting 

1056
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:17,760
appropriately, but we've got a 
new case in cross court and we 

1057
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,960
are opening an official inquiry 
now. 

1058
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,240
Like I said in my last show I 
moved and so I could not find my

1059
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:30,400
gavel but I have my sound bowl 
so this is this is my new gavel 

1060
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,560
for. 
This is the most LA thing I've 

1061
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,800
ever seen. 
I couldn't find my gavel but 

1062
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:41,760
here's my sound bowl. 
And so this case we are opening 

1063
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:46,840
a new query. 
This is a query into querying 

1064
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,000
Sam queries Hottie Coach 
Quandary. 

1065
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:56,360
Yes, in case you missed it, Sam 
query over at the Nothing Major 

1066
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:01,720
pod introduced yet another 
freaking bracket on the heels of

1067
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,880
last year's player bracket where
they ranked all the hotties and 

1068
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:09,120
they missed so many and we 
graciously corrected it for 

1069
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,600
them. 
They come out with a Hottie 

1070
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:16,200
coach bracket for this year and 
I'm sorry, just like the last 

1071
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,520
year. 
Why are we letting these men 

1072
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,720
take our jobs? 
This is our wheelhouse, Ben. 

1073
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,040
Do they even know how to 
objectify men? 

1074
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:28,600
Clearly not. 
No, clearly not, considering 

1075
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:33,160
Alvaro Alcaraz wins the entire 
bracket. 

1076
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,800
Alcaraz. 
The coach who let Carlos Alcaraz

1077
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,520
get out of shape. 
The coach who pushed out Juan 

1078
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:44,680
Carlos Ferrero to literally give
the throne to the usurper of the

1079
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,680
crown of Juan Carlos for it was 
like there were more subtle 

1080
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,760
power grabs in Game of Thrones 
than what happened in that camp.

1081
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,840
Like I'm sorry but here are my 
questions. 

1082
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,800
How are they even defining 
hottie? 

1083
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,760
Is it a body of work or is it a 
hot body? 

1084
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,440
Do we have any idea? 
We, we don't have any idea. 

1085
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,160
First of all, I, I actually 
don't know how they choose the 

1086
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,360
brackets. 
Do they do like open voting or 

1087
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,160
are they deciding? 
So they laid out the bracket, 

1088
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,680
but then it was voting via 
stories to proceed through. 

1089
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:24,040
Which again, it's like, OK, get 
a couple of like crazy Carlito 

1090
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,680
stands. 
Well, that's what I was going to

1091
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,160
say, is that, you know, it 
clearly feels like an instance 

1092
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:33,040
of everyone's love for Carlitos,
whose hotness is undeniable. 

1093
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,560
Undeniable. 
Kind of tipping the scales here.

1094
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:42,960
Your thumb is on the butt. 
OK, so First off, in opening our

1095
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,560
query to make this right, we 
don't know how you're defining 

1096
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,400
hotness. 
Like I said before, I like rule.

1097
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,680
We have to have some sort of 
rules here. 

1098
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,760
So how do you define hotness? 
I just don't know 'cause also, 

1099
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,720
what the hell has Alvaro Alcaraz
really accomplished as a coach? 

1100
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,360
Like if he's taking credit for 
Carlos winning Australia, bitch,

1101
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,240
I don't think so. 
So there's that. 

1102
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,280
Then we got to look. 
Next issue. 

1103
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:16,440
All the people that are missing,
how on earth like first of all, 

1104
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,360
how did Juan Carlos Ferrero not 
make the list? 

1105
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,560
Yeah, that man's face is 
gorgeous. 

1106
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:29,400
Stunning and best coaching 
outcome in the last decade what 

1107
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,640
he did with Carlos. 
Like yes Carlos is very talented

1108
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,720
but without Juan Carlos he would
not have gotten to where he got 

1109
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,120
to. 
Carlos Moya might not be 

1110
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,560
actively coaching people right 
now. 

1111
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,360
Stunning. 
Have you seen Laura Siegman's 

1112
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,440
coach? 
Just Google him. 

1113
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,360
Just do yourself a little favor 
and listeners at home, take this

1114
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:50,320
moment. 
Google him. 

1115
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:56,080
Antonio Zuka, I mean. 
Oh, high beard. 

1116
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,440
Like, come on, come on. 
Like if we're talking about 

1117
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,960
hottie coach, like, what is it? 
Like, how are they not there? 

1118
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,200
We've got Magnus Norman, 
Vavrinka's coach, who coached 

1119
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,280
him 23 grand slams and is now 
coaching him again on his final 

1120
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,360
year. 
And just as offensive as 

1121
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,080
Vavrinka not getting a wild card
to Indian Wells, Magnus Norman 

1122
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,920
not getting a seated ranking in 
the hottie coach bracket. 

1123
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,280
It's just it's crazy. 
And then there's like the Gorian

1124
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,280
Ivanisovich's and the avid 
Nabandian. 

1125
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:31,480
So this is not so much a a case 
that we are trying, but we're 

1126
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,960
opening an inquiry. 
We're gonna create a committee 

1127
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,560
and we're going to look at, OK, 
how are you defining A hottie 

1128
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,320
coach? 
And where the hell is Simone 

1129
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,720
Vagnosi? 
Where the hell is he? 

1130
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,040
That's all I'm saying. 
I don't know. 

1131
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,320
What's your take on the hottie 
coach debacle? 

1132
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,480
The quandary. 
Yeah, You know, I I think you 

1133
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,680
said it best when you open. 
Do they even know how to 

1134
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,840
objectify men? 
I think we. 

1135
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,920
It's a simple question. 
Ladies and gentlemen of the 

1136
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,200
jury, do you know how to 
objectify men or not? 

1137
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,360
If you don't, then do not create
a hottie bracket. 

1138
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,840
We'll need to probe deeper. 
How much cheaper? 

1139
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:14,480
I did have a salad earlier. 
Well, and then it just makes me 

1140
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,640
wonder what's next, because I 
feel like Sam Query now he's 

1141
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,720
like in the zone with a hottie 
bracket. 

1142
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:25,200
And so I'm going to steal this 
idea before they muck it up with

1143
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,240
whoever the hell they're going 
to rank. 

1144
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:29,520
Because this time of year, I 
also get reminded what a 

1145
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,840
stranglehold Tommy Haas had at 
me 10 years ago, and he is the 

1146
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,720
tournament director of Indian 
Wells. 

1147
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,080
I think the next bracket that 
they're going to do, and maybe 

1148
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,280
we do it before them, should be 
the tournament director hottie 

1149
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:46,920
bracket. 
OK, so James Blake, is he Miami 

1150
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,320
or DC? 
Miami. 

1151
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:53,520
Miami, I mean, there are some. 
Ferrer is Barcelona. 

1152
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,640
Barcelona, I mean, there are 
some. 

1153
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,640
There are some hottie tournament
directors. 

1154
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,440
So I think that we've got to do 
that bracket before these 

1155
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,200
straight men continue to steal 
our jobs. 

1156
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,600
Now that you mention it, though,
we'll have to do tournament 

1157
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,040
directors. 
Maybe we do umpires after that. 

1158
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,320
Oh fuck yes. 
Oh my goodness. 

1159
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,240
The one with the really deep 
voice. 

1160
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,160
Better win. 
The woman. 

1161
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,720
There's there, there is, there's
some, no one in particular. 

1162
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,080
And I got to say, this is one of
the things that I miss because 

1163
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:28,040
of electronic line calling. 
But the French Open linesman, 

1164
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,680
they had a stacked roster of 
hotties with bleached blonde 

1165
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,480
hair and beards. 
They all looked like Benoit 

1166
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,840
hair. 
So let let's we're going to 

1167
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:41,320
brainstorm and and listeners, if
you've got a hottie bracket that

1168
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:45,040
you think we should be doing, 
let us know and and we will. 

1169
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:46,680
I will rank. 
And rate. 

1170
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,560
Anyone fair game. 
So yeah, let us know what you 

1171
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:56,360
think, but for now we are 
opening a query into querying 

1172
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,680
Sam queries Hottie coach bracket
quandary. 

1173
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:05,040
So thank you folks. 
And that is our show. 

1174
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,840
Ben, thank you so much for 
coming back. 

1175
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,200
You're now a two time ball boy. 
How does it feel? 

1176
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,440
Feels wonderful. 
You're like, you're like the 

1177
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,120
Sally Field of ball boys. 
Two time winner. 

1178
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,760
We like you, we really like you.
Did you have fun? 

1179
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:25,040
I had a great time. 
I would love to stamp your punch

1180
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,640
card for 1/3 time. 
Would it do I get a reward if I 

1181
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,880
make it to 10? 
A spanking. 

1182
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:32,840
Beautiful. 
Then I'll be back. 

1183
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:35,840
I'll be back for the next 8 
shows in a row. 

1184
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,960
And folks, we are going to be 
back in just a few weeks with a 

1185
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,240
new show that's going to recap 
the second-half of the Sunshine 

1186
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:49,200
Double in the land of class and 
sophistication that is Miami. 

1187
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,080
Until then, our balls are going 
back into the can. 

1188
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,120
Thanks y'all, Bye.
