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Hey everybody, and welcome to 
the latest episode of The Ball 

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Boys. 
We are the tennis podcast that 

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puts the tourney in maternity. 
I'm your host, Paul Monk home 

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and today we're bringing you a 
special episode just in time for

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Mother's Day. 
These days, the WTA is inundated

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with moms on tour. 
Honestly, you can't enter a 

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tournament on the WTA without 
tripping over a stroller. 

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And no, I'm not talking about 
the latest Walker from Mateo 

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Barotini. 
It's like everyone and their 

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mother is having a kid. 
Maybe they should flip the W and

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the WTA to be an M. 
And so today we are talking all 

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things Milfs. 
We have every type of mom on the

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show. 
We've got moms I'd like to fact,

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moms I'd like to fun, moms I'd 
like to face, and more. 

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We're talking our favorite moms 
on tour. 

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We're talking about players 
moms. 

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We've got some mom trivia and 
we're going to find out who the 

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next mom will be on tour with 
our always 100% accurate 

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predictions. 
Now, listeners, did you remember

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to get mom something? 
If not, send her this episode or

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better yet, listen to it 
together on the way to brunch 

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that you're going to take her 
to. 

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Look, she gave up her dreams of 
winning a Grand Slam for you. 

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The least you can do is take her
for a Grand Slam breakfast. 

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And the only ball boy I could 
possibly do this with is my 

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favorite ball mom. 
You know her from previous 

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episodes. 
She's always serving mother. 

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It's Ivy Pakoda. 
Hey Ivy, how's it going? 

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Good, Paul, thanks for having me
on this extra special Mother's 

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Day episode. 
Of course, of course, I 

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literally there's no one else 
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And I'm so happy that you could 
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Catch us up a little bit though.
So it's been a minute since 

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you've been on the show. 
How's life? 

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You know, it's a weird week for 
me. 

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My own mother passed away this 
week, and people might think 

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it's weird that I'm recording 
this podcast so close to her 

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death, but I wanted to do 
something lighthearted and she 

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was always in my corner for my 
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And I know that she would really
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our lives. 
I miss her like hell. 

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She was irreverent and humorous,
and I feel like this is an odd 

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but fitting tribute. 
So yeah, it's been a, it's been 

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a weird couple of months for me,
but actually being on the 

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podcast has been one of the 
highlights of it. 

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It's like a total departure from
all the other things I was 

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dealing with. 
Oh, that's great. 

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Well, and and we love you and I 
know everyone out there sending 

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you some love. 
It was from ALS, right? 

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Yeah, she died of ALS. 
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I mean, from someone who was 
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serious cyclist, very fit, you 
know, it's the worst disease you

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could possibly imagine. 
And now she's in the light of 

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it, and I'm grateful. 
Yeah, well, thank you again. 

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We're going to have a great show
and keep it light. 

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So I'm going to start with a 5 
minute set of jokes about ALS. 

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Just kidding, that'd be so 
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Could you imagine? 
Here's a bunch of puns around 

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ALS and you are a mother. 
Of course. 

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You've got a gorgeous daughter, 
Loretta. 

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Is she old enough to spoil you 
on Mother's Day and give you a 

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proper Mother's Day yet? 
She's sort of at that, like, I 

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want to start buying stuff age 
but doesn't quite know how to do

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it. 
So, you know, she asked me for 

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the money to buy me a gift. 
And then, you know, I'm 

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divorced. 
So, you know, it's always a 

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little tricky. 
Like, I buy her gifts to give 

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her dad and he does the same. 
But yeah, soon she'll spoil me. 

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Then I'll probably have to clean
up the mess. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
Well, let's jump into the show 

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and we're going to start. 
We normally start off with our 

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Lobsbians, but of course for 
Mother's Day we have to have a 

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Moms VN. 
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moms on tour that has excited 
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has made us just kind of feel a 
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And there are a few things that 
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I'm just so happy that Naomi 
Osaka has won her first 

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tournament back as a mother. 
She just won last week in 

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France. 
I don't know how to say Saint 

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Malo, however you say that. 
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So Congrats to the mother. 
The mother has returned. 

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And I always find that for 
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that first tournament final win 
that can be a big hill to get 

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over. 
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sometimes slowly. 
I think it's big for. 

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Her sometimes you win lose 6 
Grand Slam finals when you were 

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returning mother. 
We're going to get to that one 

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real quick. 
Another moms be in that I had 

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this week. 
This is not a humble brag or 

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brag at all because our social 
media following is not gigantic.

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That's fine because we're more 
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But hey, please, if you're out 
there, feel free to follow us 

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over at TBB Tennis. 
That's at TBB Tennis on 

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Instagram, where we have things 
like our BTP and other roundups 

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and clips from the shows. 
But last week on our Bay TP we 

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had Hulgaruna featured and I 
tagged him in it and I tagged 

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all the players in it and his 
mom liked the post. 

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Amazing. 
He followed you. 

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Oh. 
No she didn't follow me. 

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She liked the post where I said 
her her boy is hot. 

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Which is. 
Like that? 

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Like that? 
She's like, Oh yeah, he's, he's 

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the 6th hottest player this 
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niche gay podcast. 
I like that. 

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I like that she's like looking 
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Instagram. 
Yeah, she's like, how many times

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has he mentioned? 
Oh, this one. 

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Oh, this one, Yeah. 
Oh yeah, yeah. 

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That's a great that's good 
momming. 

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I'm 100% that that's the good 
moms band you mentioned 

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thousands of times a day on 
Instagram. 

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Oh I know, and some of them 
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Well, I mean, so that's why she 
liked this one. 

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Yeah, it's actually exactly it's
cover. 

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I am really happy for Naomi. 
She's a mom, but I don't feel 

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like she's a tour mom. 
But she doesn't bring the kid 

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with her a lot of the time. 
I've thoughts about that. 

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It's weird to me, you know? 
I mean I can't travel with her 

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now but I find it odd. 
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didn't travel with her, that is.
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She might travel with her now, 
but her first tour back, Naomi 

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talked about how much she missed
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I think she went to Australia 
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She talked about how much she 
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I said that kid is 8 months old.
It's really weird to me. 

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Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, being a
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freaking tough. 
So so that's our moms being 

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before we get into all the moms 
and fawning all over the moms of

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the game, I want to play a quick
game with you Ivy called Moms 

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I'd like to fact. 
So look, I know look, I know the

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names are rough. 
There's not a lot of great F 

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words out there. 
I really tried to do this. 

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There's one great F word, but 
we're obviously not going to use

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that on the show today for MILF.
But we're doing moms I'd like to

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fact. 
So in this game, I'm going to 

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try and get you to guess the mom
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And the clues are going to start
off pretty vague and then get 

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increasingly helpful. 
So let's fact that Mom, I've 

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never seen it, but I think it's 
kind of like Blue's Clues. 

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It's kind of like Paul's balls. 
OK, Ivy, Are you ready for the 

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first one? 
Yes, I am. 

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OK, the first mom, she's an 
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Oh, by the way, you get one 
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Oh, she's an active player, OK. 
Oh, I was gonna say Belinda 

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Bench. 
Nope. 

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OK, she peaked. 
She has peaked at world #3. 

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We'll see. 
Azarenko was one. 

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Wozniacki was one. 
Snit, Alina. 

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You got it. 
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Boom. 
Nailed it. 

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The next three clues are going 
to be no Grand Slams, Strasbourg

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title and thigh tattoo. 
It's Strasbourg title, you 

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should have started with that. 
Doesn't everybody wait? 

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What? 
How would I? 

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Know that? 
Oh, she just won it. 

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That's right. 
Well, she she, that was her 

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first win back as a mom. 
For some reason I was like, 

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everyone knows that. 
But OK, this is also through the

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filter of my my brain so. 
Rosberg. 

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It's Michael. 
Strasburg OK, OK, Next one 

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active player. 
Victoria Azarenka. 

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Nope. 
OK, former #1. 

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Carolyn Woziacki Yep, see this 
is. 

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Too OK this is way too easy. 
The next ones were going to be 

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U.S. 
Open blue spandex kit that year 

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that she wore like it was after 
her her she came back from oh. 

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Yeah, Oh. 
Yeah, it was the I. 

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Think the ranking is giving it 
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OK. 
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, that's too 

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easy. 
OK, Good, good, good. 

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Good to know. 
OK. 

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Was that blue? 
This is real time feedback. 

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You could have sent marathon 
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For her, well, I had married a 
golfer. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
One Grand Slam OK, the next one 

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retired player. 
Serena Williams. 

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No. 
OK, married a basketball player.

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Oh shit, who is that? 
I'll keep going. 

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Just launched a podcast the 
competition. 

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How dare she? 
She's. 

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Not the podcast. 
I don't know. 

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Four time Grand Slam champ 
listeners at home? 

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If you're guessing it, yes. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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I thought I forgot it was 
basketball. 

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I thought it was baseball. 
That's why I got confused. 

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She's one of my favorite. 
She for me is the OG tennis mom.

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I fucking love her and her mom 
journey and I'm like one of the 

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worst parts of COVID and there 
were many bad parts was that it 

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derailed her third comeback. 
I mean, I feel like she's the 

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person who proved to people that
they could be great after being 

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giving birth, and she was much 
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And she got out of that big 
shadow of that annoying Justin 

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Pennon, like that sour girl. 
That weird rivalry and she was 

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always kind of linked to her 
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And like, she was better, but 
then Pennon always outperformed 

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her. 
But yeah, then Kim Kleiser came 

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storming back. 
Yeah, she won three of her grand

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slams after her first kid. 
She'd always been that. 

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That player who was so freaking 
athletic and talented, but she 

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kind of lost her nerve towards 
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finals, especially against 
Serena or Justine. 

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Motherhood changes you for many 
things. 

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As I know, as I've been through.
And, you know, it's like some of

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these moms, they come back and 
they I think they have like a 

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different perspective where 
they're like, no, I'm not going 

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to freak out over a break point 
because I got a freaking kid. 

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Like, you know what I mean? 
It's not like the pressure is 

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different. 
It's no longer the one thing in 

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your life. 
And so I think it can kind of be

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like a really interesting thing 
for someone's game. 

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So I agree. 
Yeah. 

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You know, as an expert in 
momology. 

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All right, so that's game. 
That's that's mom's. 

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I'd like to fact you went three 
for three. 

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Congratulations, IV. 
What do? 

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I win a Bed, Bath and Beyond 
gift certificate for Mother's 

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Day. 
Oh, OK. 

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I think next Mother's Day we're 
going to have prizes. 

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Yeah, it's. 
Going to be a Father's Day. 

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Well, Father's Day is coming up.
Exactly. 

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Father's Day is coming up. 
You're getting a gift 

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certificate till like you know 
what's the sock? 

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Factory. 
Yeah, to the sock factory or 

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like one of those like online 
sports betting things. 

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Oh yeah, FanDuel or something, 
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Yeah, yeah. 
Which by the way, I don't want 

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to sidebar us too much, but all 
of the advertisements for 

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betting on tennis matches while 
these players are facing these 

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trolls online who are yelling at
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Like it's just, there's the 
dissonance there. 

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It's too much. 
But we'll, we'll talk about that

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for daddies. 
And I, by the way, I'm wearing 

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my father figure shirt for 
daddy's day. 

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I'll probably wearing some sort 
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Just, well, I got to get a shirt
for Father's Day. 

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It's a big picture of Juan 
Martin del Potro. 

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I'm going to put that on my 
face. 

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OK, so now we're just going to 
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discussion calling moms I'd like
to fan. 

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We're just going to talk about 
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You know, it used to be pretty 
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professional tennis. 
Players would just retire much 

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earlier sometimes to have a kid.
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just seen more and more moms 
come back on the tour after 

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having a baby. 
So I just wanted to highlight 

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some of our favorite moms from 
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I've got some. 
I want to hear yours. 

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I'm starting out with the mother
of mothers, Serena Williams. 

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She won her final Grand Slam in 
Australia 2017 while about 8 

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weeks pregnant. 
Now I couldn't help but wonder, 

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like, should she have? 
Technically shouldn't? 

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Isn't that a double S team? 
I don't know, like that just 

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feels like, I guess that's OK. 
She made several more finals 

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after giving birth, which was 
yeah, yeah, 6, which was 

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incredible. 
And like, wow. 

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Like I think many players, if 
they ever made one grandson 

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final, that'd be amazing. 
But I think our expectations 

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were different. 
And it just, it was so painful 

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to watch. 
I think it is odd like you know 

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your body changes what after you
have a kid and no way you mean 

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to fat shame Serena but she 
didn't get back in shape after 

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having that kid after having 
Olympia and in a meaningful way 

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she was not in fighting for him 
for those 6 finals. 

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I'm like #1 Serena fan of all 
time. 

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I love her so much like but the 
post the motherhood comeback was

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not my favorite motherhood 
comeback of women on tour. 

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It was hard to watch. 
I mean, I'm and then people just

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say she wasn't good anymore. 
It's just not the truth. 

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She she was amazing, but she 
wasn't herself and that was hard

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to see. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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And and you just know that the 
world collectively wanted her to

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win one more because she 
finished with 23, one short of 

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Margaret Court, who is another 
mother who is not a a beloved 

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figure on this show just because
of her really right wing 

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political and religious stances 
against homosexuality and you. 

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Know yeah, we'll put her on the 
Pride Week show. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah. 

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Good day. 
This is my impersonation of Mark

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Hort. 
Good day. 

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Yeah. 
So I think there was this extra 

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global pressure because we all 
wanted to see one more win. 

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We just wanted it. 
We didn't get it, but by the 

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way, she looks freaking amazing 
these days. 

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I know. 
Where was that? 

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No, I mean, I know what it is. 
We all we you know, she looks 

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amazing. 
She looks incredible. 

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You know, I think, I think the 
recovery from her pregnancies 

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was really hard compared to 
other people. 

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And I think which is really hard
for her to get back in shape and

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that that happened and that's 
not her bulk at all. 

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Well, and it, yeah, I mean, it 
wasn't an easy birth. 

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She had like the the blood clot 
issue and she needed like the 

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the sort of skin tight suits and
all like there's a lot going on.

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You know who's back? 
Osaka looks fit as hell 

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suddenly. 
Yeah, she put in the water. 

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Has Yeah, she looks clean and, 
you know, she's lost sort of a 

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baby. 
She always had a baby face to 

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me. 
And now even after she had a 

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baby like, and now she looks 
like, like she looks ready to 

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go. 
Another mother and we, we, we 

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talked about her briefly. 
It was just Victoria Azarenka. 

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She wins the award for longevity
of mothers on tour. 

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I mean, she had that kid. 
That kid is so old. 

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I think they're going to be like
our first like mother, son mixed

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double S team, like like 
literally like so he's almost 9 

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and she has, she has not talked 
about retirement. 

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She is just like, Nah, I just, I
play tennis. 

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There's no quitting her. 
I've seen them together. 

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I was at a tennis charity 
tournament in Palm Springs 

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during the Indian Wells and she 
was playing it and she brought 

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him and it was really small 
event. 

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So I saw her hanging out with 
them. 

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Like she's, she's like a great 
mom and a tennis mom. 

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Like she's just all about him. 
She had him courtside. 

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They're chatting. 
I mean, she had no one helping 

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her. 
She was just brought him, you 

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know, just like I might take my 
daughter to the squash club. 

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She was just like really hands 
on, super relaxed, you know, not

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no handlers. 
No, 'cause he's an adult. 

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Yeah, well, this is 2 years ago.
He was seven. 

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Yeah, he's an. 
Adult but still like. 

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Now he's an adult. 
Yeah, he he, he drives around. 

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He's 0 ball boy. 
She got a built in helper but we

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have to admit it killed her 
career. 

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Yeah, I mean it. 
Was world #1. 

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Yeah, no, it's true. 
And well, 'cause there were a 

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few years, though, where it was 
a kind of a contentious split 

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with the father and there was 
like, talk about like the kid 

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had to go back to Belarus or. 
Whatever other way around, he 

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wasn't take him out of the 
country and what happened, but 

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her husband was this like like 
golf caddy from some Country 

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Club where she was training and 
her his family sued her and 

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that's how it killed her career 
was she wasn't allowed to leave 

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the country. 
Right. 

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During this custody battle. 
So she like, just couldn't play 

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it for two years. 
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

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Since then, it's just she's had 
some runs, she's made some 

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finals. 
She might have won a Masters a 

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couple years ago, but but yeah, 
she's she's kind of just 

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perennially in the top 30, top 
20. 

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I don't really see her making it
back to top 10 even. 

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And I don't, I don't know if 
she's going to win a Grand Slam.

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I don't think that's Yeah, yeah.
Sometimes I look at her career 

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earnings to see what she was 
walking away from. 

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And like, as of when she got 
pregnant, she was like, we're 

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like 19 to $20 million. 
So I see it both ways. 

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I'm like, you could have kept 
going here. 

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Or maybe that's just enough. 
She still is taking home 

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paychecks and and she Leo is 
going to be able to afford 

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college like it's going to be OK
I. 

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Think so. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So the last mom I just kind of 
wanted to highlight for this 

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moms that I like to fan, to fan 
out on is just the bench, 

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Belinda bench. 
Now this is someone who maybe 

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could be our next Grand Slam mom
winner because she has come 

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back. 
She gave birth just over a year 

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ago. 
Her kid just turned 1. 

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She stormed back earlier this 
year by winning in Abu Dhabi in 

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February in Indian Wells. 
She had a great ranch, took out 

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three seeds including Coco, 
which you know, on any given day

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is maybe. 
Actually, on any given day, you 

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can take out Sweet Altac. 
I think Sweet Altac's the new 

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Coco Oh. 
Oh well, she is #4 in the world 

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now, does up today. 
But the thing I love about Bench

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itches, Bench itches, Bench 
itches. 

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That's fun to say. 
Bench's come back after 

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maternity is that she came back 
really smartly. 

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Matthew Coleman, another ball 
boy, pointed this out in a show 

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earlier. 
Her first 3 tournaments were 

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challengers. 
She got match fit, match ready, 

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match smart. 
And then she stormed back in 

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like the bench, like I fucking 
love the bench. 

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She's stalling out her come back
a little bit right now, but 

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she's. 
I mean, you couldn't be more 

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correct. 
There's just match fitness and 

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match toughness is the thing 
that you lose. 

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You can be as fit as you fucking
want, but like match readiness 

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is the what you get from playing
matches back-to-back. 

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Like when I wouldn't play squash
for a while, I can be in great 

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shape and I'm like, wait, I 
haven't played a match. 

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Like I haven't been in this 
position. 

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And like you fly to the French 
Open or Roland Garris or Roland 

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Garris or Wimbledon or Abu 
Dhabi, whatever you lose, it's a

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huge trip. 
You lose in the first round. 

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It's usually burning energy and 
fuel like, you know, emotional 

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cool. 
You're right. 

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You play the local tournaments, 
you play, you play these 

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challengers, you play 10 matches
and then you remember how to do 

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it. 
You also see if you still like 

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it is the other thing, you know,
like I feel like it's a good 

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testing on see whether I like 
this, you know. 

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Yeah, like, yeah. 
Do you have the drive? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, Like is this, is 

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this still it? 
And and also, I think just 

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getting used to playing in front
of people, like the nerve, like 

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your practice session is one 
thing when it's just you and 

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your coach or you and your 
hitting partner. 

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But if you've taken the year off
and your first match back is in 

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front of 10,000 people, bro, I 
don't, I don't. 

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And. 
Also and also you're figuring 

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out how to do it. 
Like, I don't know what their 

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situation is with their kid. 
My kid sure as hell wasn't 

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sleeping at 8 months. 
So like, you know, I just like a

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smaller tournament. 
You're like, how do I play a 

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bathroom? 
Two hours of sleep, you know, 

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like I, I think that I, I think 
these women probably have a 

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little more support in financial
help that I did, you know, like 

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from like people, but you know, 
but they night nurses. 

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I don't know. 
You know what that's really what

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I want to know is like no one 
will ever talk about like how 

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how hands on are they? 
Yeah, yeah, no, I love it. 

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It's like the baby has their own
physio. 

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The baby has like a mental, a 
stretching coach, you know, it's

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got like a whole team. 
Yeah. 

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But I do want to save a little 
time for us, though, because 

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we've got to talk about some 
players, moms, so dad's on tour 

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and we're going to get to that 
in the daddy show. 

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Problematic as hell, but there 
are some moms they're they're 

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either just incredible coaches 
or just completely destroying 

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the style game in the box. 
I just wanted to talk through a 

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few of them with you. 
So Bebe Bianca Andrescu's mom. 

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Mama Andrescu. 
Mama Andre Momdrescu like she 

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is. 
Oh my God, Momdrescu. 

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There we go. 
There's this. 

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That's the name of the show. 
Momdrescu. 

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Mom Dressku is just like Bianca 
stormed onto the scene. 

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So did Maria because suddenly 
we've got this box and this this

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lady is just in head to toe 
something something couture like

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it's it's like AB fab where like
she's got every label on yeah. 

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Did she have a dog in the box 
like a? 

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Little dog. 
That's Coco. 

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OK, Coco. 
BB and Coco. 

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Mom Drescue Mom Drescue looks 
like every Bravo reality star 

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take it and put into one human 
being. 

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Yes, yes, like every single 
person. 

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And I would like I I'm not a 
huge Bravo watcher, but I would 

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watch that show. 
Oh my God, like the real house, 

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The Real Housewives of Mom 
Drescue and it's just her. 

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Yeah, and it's not even like 
about the tennis. 

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It's about I want to watch her, 
like go and eat something. 

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I want to watch her pick out an 
outfit I like. 

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She is just, she is just fun. 
Like have you seen her talk and 

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do you know what she's like? 
Yeah, she's really smart. 

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Like she's like a financial 
advisor or something. 

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I think Bebe's their only child 
and they love each other. 

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Like, like they're super close. 
They're so extra. 

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By the way, Bebe's looking so 
fit these days. 

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She's super fit looking. 
Look what I love about Bebe, and

449
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,360
I'm just going to say is she's 
not extra on the court. 

450
00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:14,320
She's super pared out on the 
court, just like very kind of 

451
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,600
jockey and like bike shorts and 
a bra top, like camisole top, 

452
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,400
cami bra. 
And but off court she's like a 

453
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:27,040
junior mom dress coup, yo-yo. 
And I've seen on Instagram, I 

454
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,000
watched a video of them doing 
their makeup together in the 

455
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,640
morning. 
That's cute. 

456
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,480
That is cute, Andres, who? 
She is looking great. 

457
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,080
And yeah, another friend of the 
pod, David Kane. 

458
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,280
Hey, David. 
He works in tennis journalism at

459
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,400
the Tennis Channel. 
He did an article about her. 

460
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,280
It just came out today or 
yesterday. 

461
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,160
About how. 
Yeah. 

462
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,040
About Bebe, about how she's 
like. 

463
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,600
I think she finally realized, 
like, she had a huge opportunity

464
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,440
and she's kind of lost a few 
years. 

465
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,600
The clock is ticking. 
And I think she's I think she's 

466
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,480
back, but I think she's like 
2425. 

467
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,720
Like, it's 23. 
Oh, she's only 23. 

468
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,720
Yeah. 
Oh, she got tons of time. 

469
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,240
Never mind. 
She's unless she had a birthday,

470
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,760
I'm fairly sure she's 23. 
OK, well, either way, it's kind 

471
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,880
of like Tommy Paul had a 
realization like that a few 

472
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,280
years ago. 
Like, hey, yeah, talent. 

473
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,240
She just turned 24. 
OK, yeah. 

474
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,320
It's like, hey, I'm talented, 
but like if I want to get to 

475
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,720
that next level or get back to 
winning slams, like I got to 

476
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,280
like stepping up a little bit. 
And so she's committed BD. 

477
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,760
She's really injured though, 
like those weren't, she wasn't 

478
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,440
like fucking off to like go like
party. 

479
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,920
She she like worked her body and
she seems to look physically. 

480
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,040
I, I feel like I'm always 
commenting on women's bodies, 

481
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,440
but I feel like I get to do this
because like, you know, not 

482
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,920
because. 
I sure can't. 

483
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,840
Well, she was like not 
overweight in the slaves, but 

484
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,440
she was meteor. 
She was chunkier. 

485
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,800
She was stronger. 
Now she's deep down. 

486
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,400
Yeah, she's she was beefy in 
like a really good way. 

487
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,120
Like I feel like I look to like 
I was like what? 

488
00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:00,080
That's like my kind of body 
type, you know, like basically 

489
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,000
not that I'm attracted to that. 
I look like. 

490
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,880
But now she's way slimmer way. 
So I think she's like sort of 

491
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,840
and I think maybe that's gonna 
have like whatever she's done. 

492
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,720
It's not like she's skinny or 
lost muscle, but she's leaner. 

493
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,160
It maybe this is going to help 
with the injuries. 

494
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,440
Whatever she's rebuilt. 
She's been at the Morota Glue 

495
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,000
Academy. 
She looks amazing. 

496
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,920
She should do top five players. 
She's a top five player. 

497
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,760
I I hope so, I love her game. 
And then more mom dress goo. 

498
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,880
More mom dress goo. 
And I like I so AB fab, you are 

499
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,800
so right, like sitting there in 
the bottle and Bebe won the US 

500
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,800
opening at Serena. 
They kept cutting to this 

501
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,160
person. 
I was like, who is that? 

502
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,640
Iconic. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

503
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,240
It's just sunglasses a lot of 
like a like that hair and like 

504
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,320
it was like some like swap meet 
Gucci like or Poochie or swap 

505
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,320
meet Versace like print blouse 
with like chains of like. 

506
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:56,880
Did you go to a mall in Dubai 
and buy that at the like the 

507
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,840
nail rack? 
Duty free. 

508
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,120
It was like duty free at the 
airport. 

509
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:04,920
Yeah, it's fucking amazing. 
And then on the other end of the

510
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,880
sort of like mom box spectrum, 
we've got Candy Goth, who I also

511
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,560
love. 
She is a coach of Coco's. 

512
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,840
I mean, Coco Goff has had 
several coaches, but Mom Goff 

513
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:21,600
has always been part of the 
team, travels with her, is such 

514
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,040
an emotional support, such a 
rock that she's a former 

515
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,680
athlete. 
She was a college athlete, I 

516
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,080
think in track. 
And there's a lot of problematic

517
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,280
dads on tour. 
But like these moms who go on 

518
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,600
tour, who are strategic coaches,
emotional support, know the 

519
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,720
game. 
Candy Goff, that is like a great

520
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,200
tennis mom to have in your box. 
Like that's going to help you 

521
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,440
win. 
Like Mom Drezcu might not help 

522
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,200
you win. 
She's just fucking fierce. 

523
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,080
Candy Goff going to help you win
and. 

524
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,600
Like Mom Drezcu was in my box. 
I'd fucking win. 

525
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,400
She's like, we need more. 
We need more money to buy more 

526
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,520
like alcohol for mez scarves. 
She's got her Birkin. 

527
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,600
She's just like putting money 
into the Birkin. 

528
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,720
Yeah, 100%. 
OK, fair. 

529
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,080
I want to see light beer with 
candy golf. 

530
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:16,480
Why a lot? 
What do you mean? 

531
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,840
You know, she looks like a lady 
who drinks a lot of light beer. 

532
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,440
I, I remember reading a Coco 
Brooke on to the scene that her 

533
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,120
parents owned a sports bar in 
Delray Beach. 

534
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:24,840
And I'm like, I just want to go 
there and drink beer with her 

535
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,240
parents and watch tennis. 
Oh my God, that would be so 

536
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,400
freaking fun and then Coco comes
in and we're just like all hang 

537
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,480
out yes, that that would be 
great. 

538
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:35,800
I like candy. 
She's. 

539
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,160
Serious. 
Yeah. 

540
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,200
You know, it's a, it's a 
different type of thing. 

541
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,000
Like not every athletes gonna 
have an athletic mother. 

542
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,560
But if you do, it should be 
someone you can look up to and 

543
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,800
emulate and like, you know, take
a page out of their book. 

544
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,280
And I think, you know, I hope to
do that for my daughter. 

545
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,120
I think she's becoming a better 
version of me on court. 

546
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:53,600
Like, I was kind of a neurotic 
mess. 

547
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,560
I think it's kind of cool for 
Coco to be able to look over 

548
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,080
there and see these pretty, you 
know, low key people. 

549
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,640
Dad gets nervous he has to 
leave. 

550
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,480
But Mom. 
Is yeah, that's it exactly. 

551
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,320
I love that when it whenever the
camera goes on to to candy, she 

552
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,000
doesn't look nervous. 
She's just like calm. 

553
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,680
She's like a really like 
positive influence in force and 

554
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,880
energy like 100% yeah. 
And I think that she got that in

555
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,840
the the last mom box that I want
to last mom's box that I want to

556
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,360
call out. 
I don't know, you know, I don't 

557
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:29,720
know the language moms, I don't 
know. 

558
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,240
But like the blueprint of that 
or maybe maybe a slight 

559
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,080
inspiration for that was Oracine
Price Serena the. 

560
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:47,000
Godmother of all tennis moms. 
Unbothered, sitting in the box 

561
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,800
no matter what's going on on the
court. 

562
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,600
Nothing stoic, just watching, 
you know she would enjoy. 

563
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,840
Like she would clap and cheer 
when it was going well. 

564
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,440
Watching. 
Sometimes I thought she might 

565
00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,800
not be watching. 
She was just there. 

566
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,280
Oh, there were times behind 
those sunglasses, I was sure her

567
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,640
eyes were closed. 
She was taking a nap. 

568
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,840
Like, she was just like, perched
up, just showing up on the tour.

569
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,520
And then for a while, though, I 
mean, after the divorce with her

570
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,000
and Richard, you know, she was 
the coach of Serena for a while.

571
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,600
So she was actively involved 
and. 

572
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,400
Also an athlete. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

573
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,120
And I think that she was just, 
again, like this calm. 

574
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,760
Like, I'm not a parent. 
I'm definitely not a mom, but I 

575
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,280
could imagine, like, watching 
your kid play, you get like, 

576
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,920
really into it and like, oh, my 
God. 

577
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,360
Like it's like, oh, oh, oh, you 
care so much. 

578
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,480
And that's probably not helpful 
versus, like, these parents who 

579
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,680
are steady. 
Also, Orsin had some nice drips.

580
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,640
She, like, was wearing, like, 
the looks and like, really kind 

581
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,320
of like, yeah, the hair, 
everything just gorgeous. 

582
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,680
Yeah. 
And we already talked a little 

583
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,680
bit about Holger's mom, Annika. 
I think we got a shout out Judy 

584
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,240
Murray here. 
Oh my God, yes. 

585
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,520
Yeah, we cannot overlook Judy 
Murray. 

586
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,760
Tell me, tell me more about your
Yeah, tell me more about her. 

587
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,920
He'd break. 
I love her too. 

588
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,840
Like, I don't know whether Andy 
Murray had a dad or anything. 

589
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:18,920
I never even heard of him. 
Who? 

590
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,520
Knows. 
And who knows? 

591
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,440
Judy Murray was just like 
throughout his career in his 

592
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,960
box, she was a staunch 
supporter. 

593
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,960
Like tough as shit. 
Like I wouldn't want to see Judy

594
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,960
Murray to barf, but like. 
No, no. 

595
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,480
But I think I, I can't remember 
any of her jokes now, but I 

596
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,880
think that because Andy Murray 
has a great sense of humor and I

597
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,560
think he got it from her. 
Like she was like always kind of

598
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,000
taking a piss. 
And she raised him right, like, 

599
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,840
you know, he is AI say, Andy 
Murray, tennis feminist, and you

600
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,360
get that from your mother. 
And so whatever he taught, she 

601
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,920
taught him. 
And he really respects her and 

602
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,480
she respects him and like she 
did something amazing for that 

603
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,360
kid. 
And I, I think, you know, even 

604
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,040
as a much older player, if he 
wanted his mother in his box for

605
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,240
a reason that she's like strong 
and forceful and you know, she 

606
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,120
didn't attracted from the she's 
like shut down the haters, but 

607
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,960
in a calm way. 
She's not hysterical. 

608
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,200
That woman's cool. 
Yeah, she is so cool. 

609
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,360
That's a good call out. 
Judy Murray, fucking love you. 

610
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,920
Now, just a real quick segue 
into moms. 

611
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,960
I'd like to Futog. 
So Futog, that sounds way dirty 

612
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,240
than it is. 
Futog is just a town in Serbia. 

613
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,280
Look, there's not a lot of great
F words except for the 1 great F

614
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,360
word. 
So hey Ivy, you want to hear a 

615
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,640
joke? 
Yes. 

616
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,600
So Novak has recovered from his 
stye, but I sure haven't. 

617
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,840
So I have prepared yet more 
jokes and this time it's about 

618
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,680
how he celebrates his wife on 
Mother's Day. 

619
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,160
His wife, Yelena, I almost said 
Yelena Yankovic. 

620
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,920
Yelena Djokovic. 
They've been together forever. 

621
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,440
They've got like 4 kids now, 
three kids, I don't know, but 

622
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,040
very happy family. 
He loves her. 

623
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:10,560
So what flowers does Novak buy 
his wife for Mother's Day? 

624
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,720
I don't know tulips. 
No styruses. 

625
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,160
Oh, OK. 
I'm not over the sty. 

626
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:26,280
Yeah, sorry. 
What cuisine does Novak take 

627
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:33,000
Yelena out to for Mother's Day? 
Italian. 

628
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,480
Sty Italian. 
Yes, yes, yes. 

629
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,520
OK, you got it. 
You're getting it, you're 

630
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,200
getting it. 
And what does Novak Djokovic 

631
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:44,600
make? 
Sure? 

632
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,920
He says to Yelena on Mother's 
Day. 

633
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,000
Sty, love you. 
Boom, got it. 

634
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,800
Sty love you. 
So there's three more sty jokes.

635
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,720
I know every. 
So we're up to 16 sty jokes and 

636
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,760
I will not end. 
I'm going to keep up with the 

637
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,800
sty jokes until I can't possibly
think of anything else that 

638
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,360
rhymes with stye. 
And there's a lot that rhymes 

639
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,520
with stye. 
So OK, that was mom's I'd like 

640
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,560
to futog and now we're going to 
play another game. 

641
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,240
You ready for another game? 
We're going to play mom's I'd 

642
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,200
like to face. 
And so look, we've talked about 

643
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,760
this already. 
Motherhood changes you. 

644
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,080
I speak from experience and 
that's definitely true when it 

645
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,160
comes to tennis. 
Some of these moms come back and

646
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,680
they are boss ass bitches with 
real top energy. 

647
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,720
And so I want to I want to play 
a game where we get to who is 

648
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,760
the top mom. 
And so Ivy, what I'm going to do

649
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,280
is I'm just going to give you 2 
names at a time and you have to 

650
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,880
pick one and then. 
I've seen this on the Internet. 

651
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Yeah, exactly. 
The kids are all doing it. 

652
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,480
We're going to make a TikTok out
of it, so we're going to dance. 

653
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,280
And so these are all players who
have played tennis after giving 

654
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,760
birth. 
So it's not just like any mom. 

655
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,080
So it's like, OK, they they came
back as moms. 

656
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,840
And so we're just going to go 
until we end up with the 

657
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,080
ultimate tennis mom. 
It's the mom I'd like to face. 

658
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,960
I guess maybe the mom I wouldn't
like to face. 

659
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,080
But again, it's an F word. 
So Are you ready, Ivy? 

660
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,080
I can't wait. 
OK. 

661
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:21,880
Patrick Kavidova or Angelique 
Kerber Kevidova, Patrick 

662
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,920
Kavidova or Victoria Azarenka. 
Azarenka. 

663
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,880
Victoria Azarenka or Taylor 
Townsend. 

664
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:33,080
Azarenka. 
Victoria Azarenka or Belinda 

665
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,080
Bench. 
Azarenka. 

666
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,120
Victoria Azarenka or Sloan 
Stephens, who's a step mom? 

667
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,960
Azarenka. 
Victoria Azarenka or Caroline 

668
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,360
Wozniacki. 
Azarenka. 

669
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,600
Wow, you are riding hard for 
Azarenka. 

670
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,400
OK, Victoria Azarenka or Naomi 
Osaka. 

671
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,280
Azarenka. 
Victoria Azarenka or Serena 

672
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:01,480
Williams, Serena Williams, 
Serena Williams or Kim Closters.

673
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,640
Tricky one. 
Yeah, you got to pick Kim 

674
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,320
Closters. 
Kim Closters or Elena Svidelina.

675
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,120
Oh, that's a tough one, Kim 
Kleisers. 

676
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:23,000
All right, that's it. 
So the top mom that and I 

677
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,760
completely agree with almost 
everything you said. 

678
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,560
I think you wrote for Victoria 
maybe a little too hard, but I I

679
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,680
get it. 
I get it. 

680
00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:35,400
But yeah, Kim Kleisers. 
You can't compare Azureka and 

681
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,880
benches. 
His bench is only in bad for 

682
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,760
like 3 months you know, So we 
don't know, you might just like 

683
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,240
lose everything from now on. 
And like then we put her 

684
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:43,840
forward. 
We wouldn't put her forward in 

685
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,200
this really important game and 
we what would we do? 

686
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,160
I know, I know people would come
back. 

687
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:48,320
We. 
We. 

688
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:54,080
Need to rerecord this episode. 
I know because people are going 

689
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:59,600
to be pissed, but OK, I agree. 
We've got the yeah, so we've got

690
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,920
the ultimate tennis Mom is Kim 
Kleisters, and I am. 

691
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,760
I am fully agree with that. 
I fuck God, if I could, if I 

692
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,840
could somehow find a way to get 
Kim Kleisters to come back one 

693
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,800
more time. 
It's definitely not going to 

694
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,280
happen. 
But she I think she invented the

695
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,160
like, she was like the first 
one, not the first, but her 

696
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,720
splits on the court. 
She was just a jock. 

697
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:28,480
It was amazing. 
OK, well, so we are about to 

698
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,520
kind of wrap up the show. 
It's just a short little mom 

699
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,240
show because hey, mom's got a 
lot of things to do today, but 

700
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,120
the last thing that we're going 
to do is moms. 

701
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,160
I'd like to fruit. 
It's just, I don't know, you 

702
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,080
know, whatever. 
I have two questions. 

703
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,400
Who is the next player who's 
somewhere in like the top 100 or

704
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,640
top 80? 
Who's going to become a mom? 

705
00:36:54,520 --> 00:37:00,840
It's prediction time. 
Oh boy, it can't be top 100 

706
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,520
because no one cares. 
We have to be top 30, right? 

707
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,600
Well, yeah, but you know, I 
mean, look like Naomi or some 

708
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,120
people are not, some people have
not made it back to the top 30 

709
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,960
who are names. 
Danielle Collins. 

710
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,080
Even though she just crushed 
Fiantech, she's going to. 

711
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,720
Yeah, because she has that 
endometriosis and she's talked a

712
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:25,080
lot about how she wants to the 
kids sooner rather than later. 

713
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:29,400
Yeah. 
I would not be surprised if not 

714
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,800
immediately, but Sabalenka has a
kid in the next couple of years.

715
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,920
Oh, interesting. 
Oh, that's not on my radar. 

716
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,120
But yeah, I mean, she because 
yeah, she's like 2728. 

717
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,960
In a few years, she'll want to 
have a kid. 

718
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,640
Yeah, is she that old? 
Yeah, she was born in 98 so. 

719
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,120
How do you know that? 
The must have said it on TV 

720
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,880
recently. 
I have a tennis podcast. 

721
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,440
This is what I do. 
I read Wikipedia at night when I

722
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,800
can't sleep of like tennis 
players. 

723
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,840
She has this boyfriend that 
she's obsessed with and she 

724
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,320
loves. 
Yeah, very cute relationship and

725
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,360
she's talking about it. 
She is my dark horse and 

726
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,920
Danielle Collins is mine, though
I don't know if Danielle Collins

727
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,960
has a partner. 
Danielle Collins and the other 

728
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,520
Madison Keys. 
Oh, another I love. 

729
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:18,080
Yeah, I'm. 
Going with keys over Collins and

730
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,880
then Sabalinka as the dark 
horse, Who are you picking? 

731
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,080
OK, so my picks are are 
different. 

732
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,880
My first one is and this one is 
maybe like a little bit of a 

733
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,760
trick question or trick answer. 
What? 

734
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,080
Because of the man. 
Yeah, exactly. 

735
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:41,880
You're we can have babies too. 
No Pala bodosa because I think 

736
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,040
she's honestly about to retire. 
Like her back is fucked. 

737
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,600
She pulled out again, She's 
she's ranked #10 right now, but 

738
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,480
she can barely play and she's in
so much pain. 

739
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,960
I feel bad for her. 
And I think that she and Sissy 

740
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,040
Pass just got engaged. 
I think that I think they're 

741
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,080
going to have a kid. 
That's an absolutely good call, 

742
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,360
but I think Madison Keys, who 
just got married, is a better 

743
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,400
call. 
I think, I think, I think that's

744
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,080
close. 
I, I, I agree. 

745
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,040
No, Maddie. 
Maddie is a really good call. 

746
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,560
But then I think she's going to 
retire. 

747
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,680
I don't think she's going to 
come back. 

748
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,160
No, Maddie ain't coming back. 
No, no, no, no. 

749
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,040
I also, I think that like 
unplanned pregnancies are much 

750
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,800
rarer obviously than, you know, 
100 years ago, but like. 

751
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,760
Don't. 
Don't just Naomi Osaka. 

752
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,160
Well, exactly. 
You know what, It does happen. 

753
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,640
I get a weird vibe and maybe 
this is just because of like the

754
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,160
whole like ickiness around it, 
but like Robakana and her coach,

755
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,760
like that coach crazy guy. 
I could see her getting knocked 

756
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,120
up. 
I don't know, and like and and 

757
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,600
and just being so like gaslit 
into hit by the coach that she's

758
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,560
just like going to take off time
and have a baby. 

759
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,440
I don't know. 
I could see it as part of his 

760
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,520
Machiavellian way of controlling
her. 

761
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,200
You know, these are not love 
stories. 

762
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,920
I'm not like like a. 
A beautiful A beautiful Mother's

763
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:01,240
Day tale of later Robacana being
knocked up by her abusive coach 

764
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,040
and being forced to keep the 
baby for his Machiavellian 

765
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,400
fascination. 
A heart warming Hallmark card. 

766
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,800
I love you as much as Robacana's
husband loves her and Coach 

767
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,840
loves her. 
Yeah. 

768
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,640
Yeah. 
Wow. 

769
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,080
And I'm not leaving you folks. 
Yeah, Good night. 

770
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,400
Yeah. 
So those. 

771
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,320
Well, so. 
OK, so those were the 2 that I 

772
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,240
had on my radar. 
I'm trying to think about if I 

773
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:28,640
have 1/3. 
No, I think. 

774
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,520
I think it's a good thing. 
You've got a pretty standard 

775
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,280
pick, a good pick, but Doe says 
logical and then I have A and 

776
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,320
then you've got a dark horse. 
Weird one. 

777
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,880
I have a lot very logical one. 
Yours a dark. 

778
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:49,080
Mine is dark, yeah. 
But honestly I think that all 

779
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,520
all of them are viable. 
All of the pregnancies are 

780
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,200
viable. 
So folks, tune back in in like 

781
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,240
12 months when we update yeah, 
predictions. 

782
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,520
Yeah, we'll, we'll just, we'll 
be in the 4th trimester by then 

783
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,360
and we'll see what, what, what 
has happened. 

784
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:12,840
And last question, who is going 
to be the next mom to win a 

785
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,840
Grand Slam? 
So we had Cloisters win 3 who 

786
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,280
like is and and she might not be
a mom yet. 

787
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,680
I mean, the people, the person 
is going to come the closest 

788
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,000
right now is Fidelina, you know,
but I don't think she'll win 1. 

789
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,880
I don't think, I don't think 
Benchester is going to win a 

790
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,400
Grand Slam. 
If you want to know the truth, 

791
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,720
yeah, Fidelina's got a better 
shot. 

792
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:42,600
I would say I fuck it, Osaka. 
I completely agree. 

793
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,080
I think it's going to be Naomi. 
I think that she is, she is back

794
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:52,440
in in form and hopefully getting
there mentally and hopefully, 

795
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,240
you know, keeps that fire 
building. 

796
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,680
It's just tough though because 
Sabalinka is so dominant on hard

797
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,640
courts now, but. 
When she gets pregnant, it's 

798
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,880
not. 
When she's out, exactly when 

799
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,760
tiger, when the tiger becomes 
Tiger mom, then we will have 

800
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,360
yeah, Osaka can have a window 
and yeah, take the Australian, 

801
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,840
maybe next year. 
You know who might have a kid? 

802
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,280
Pagula. 
She got married. 

803
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,240
Oh, right. 
Yeah. 

804
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,360
She got, like, secret, not 
secret married, but like, it 

805
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,640
wasn't like, as big of a story. 
Yeah, No, that's a good one. 

806
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,080
That's Pagula. 
Could definitely have a kid. 

807
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,920
OK, Well, hey, that's our show, 
our celebration of moms. 

808
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,120
Ivy, you are the mother of all 
ball boys. 

809
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,280
Thank you so much so much. 
Fun. 

810
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,000
Always love having you on here. 
Are you gonna come back real 

811
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,280
soon? 
I'm coming back for the Dads and

812
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,520
Daddies episode. 
It's gonna be real dirty and 

813
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,640
real paternal. 
Oh my God, all the dad jokes. 

814
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,720
So folks, get ready for that. 
And also get ready. 

815
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:55,600
We're going to be back in a few 
weeks to preview Roland Garros, 

816
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,000
unpack all the rest of the 
action on the tour. 

817
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,560
Sinner's going to be back. 
Is he going to be on a tear? 

818
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,760
I don't. 
Know if he. 

819
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,440
Wins today. 
He literally it's on the 

820
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,840
background right now. 
He just started his match, so 

821
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,680
I'm going to tune into that now 
and everyone else should as 

822
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,960
well. 
I'm sure you're all going to be 

823
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,920
watching and all I can say is 
Mamma Mia to that. 

824
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,400
So thanks everybody and we'll 
see you real soon. 

825
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,360
Happy Mother's Day, mom Sty. 
Love you.

