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It's time for let's get some 
ground strokes. 

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Baseline. 
It's top spin that's LGBT. 

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Have a listen. 
Make some norms with the ball 

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boys. 
Hey everybody, and welcome to 

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the latest episode of The Ball 
Boys. 

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We are the tennis podcast that 
puts the tops and top US. 

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I'm your host, Paul Monkle. 
I'm bringing you the insights, 

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outbursts, giggles and wiggles 
of the ATP and WTA tours. 

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It's been about 3 weeks since 
the last show. 

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Because no matter how much I 
make a fuss, the tours won't 

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adhere to the ball boys 
recording schedule of every 

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other week. 
And sure, we could have done a 

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show last week, but at the time 
the entire tour had food 

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poisoning. 
And I'm not going to spend a 

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whole show just scatting with 
you. 

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I'm not going to do it. 
I would never do that to you. 

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But Speaking of skid marks, we 
are deep in the clay season. 

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On both tours. 
We just wrapped up a 

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surprisingly entertaining 
Madrid. 

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It was a magical time at Kaha 
Mahika. 

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There were some dark mahika 
starting with those tacos, a few

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mahika men making deep runs, a 
lot of mahika touch. 

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And of course, today we brought 
our Mahika balls to help make 

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some predictions about what's 
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the clay season. 
Now since the last show, some 

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rumors we mentioned have turned 
into stone cold facts. 

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And we also had some terrible 
news for Bay TP mainstays who 

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are out for the rest of the clay
season at least. 

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But slotting right in, we have 
Yonic Sinner just absolutely 

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dominating everyone. 
He just won a record-breaking 

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5th Masters 1000 in a row. 
And so this episode is called 

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Red for 5th. 
And yes, that's an homage to 

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Alaska from Season 5 of Drag 
Race because for me at least, 

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that is one culture peaked. 
So red for fifth. 

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We'll be covering all of that. 
Plus we have a brand spanking 

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noob ATP. 
Head on over to our Instagram to

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see the complete list. 
Our handle is at TBB Tennis. 

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That's at TBB tennis. 
The TBB stands for the ball boys

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and listeners. 
I'm still casting for new sports

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because there are ball boys in 
every sport. 

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Should we do football, 
basketball, hockey? 

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I mean, that puck is a ball, 
right? 

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And yes, maybe I'm biting off 
more balls and I can chew, but 

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what I do in my free time is my 
own business. 

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So if you know anyone, hit me up
over on Instagram and let me 

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know and connect me to the ball 
boys in your world. 

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Now to get down and dirty with 
me on today's show. 

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I'm very, very, very excited for
today's ball Boy. 

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He was actually my first guest 
in the new era of the ball boys.

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And since then I've actually 
learned how to both edit and 

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balance sound. 
So we are in for a treat, folks.

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He's the incredibly talented 
writer and performer. 

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He's the manager of OUT Loud 
Tennis here in Los Angeles. 

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It's Nathan Frizzell. 
Hi, Nathan. 

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Thanks for coming back on the 
pod. 

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Hi Paul, thank you for having 
me. 

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It is a joy, a treat and yes, a 
delight to be back. 

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Oh, stop it. 
You don't have to bottom me up. 

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You already, you got the gig, 
you know. 

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I'm already on, so I'll tell you
exactly what I think of you. 

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Screw you, we played the Getting
to Know You games when you first

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came on, but that was like 2 
years ago. 

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But I just want to sort of catch
up with you a little bit. 

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First of all, did you and Adam 
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at Poinsettia, or did they 
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mattresses back in? 
No, we have not. 

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We are officially the Isner and 
the hoot of Socal amateur 

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tennis. 
That match will probably never 

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end. 
Who's who is there, of course. 

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Oh no. 
Oh, raw. 

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Incorrect. 
Because I'm going to win. 

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Oh, I thought you meant because 
of the politics. 

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OK. 
Oh my God, oh God, don't even 

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swell. 
We also don't know a whole lot 

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about Mahout, so there might not
be a an answer to take. 

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There, well, he's French, you 
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It really could, you know, is he
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Is she from rural France? 
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Well, I, I think my only 
reference point is Ratatouille. 

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That's all I know about that 
culture. 

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So, all right, so I just want to
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more again. 
And you are the manager of Out 

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Loud Tennis here in LA, right? 
Is that your title? 

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Yes, league manager, it means 
absolutely nothing, but I did, I

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did start the league. 
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get when you when you start 
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You started the league. 
Oh yeah, yeah. 

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How long? 
How long has it been around? 

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Oh my God, Thirteen years. 
This. 

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This summer it'll be thirteen 
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Wow. 
Oh God, the team. 

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It's a it's a terrible team. 
It's a terrible team. 

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And you know, Will Hackner 
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general in 2008, I think, And 
he'd been bugging me for five 

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years to start a tennis league. 
And I was like, girl, don't take

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something I love and make me 
work on it. 

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And he eventually wore me down. 
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and everyone's driving me crazy.
But we're having fun, so I guess

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that's what matters. 
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that's what matters. 
That's right. 

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OK, so I want you to describe 
out loud tennis just in five 

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words, and two of them have to 
be naughty. 

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Oh OK. 
Well messy and cute are the most

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appropriate terms. 
I mean like the most fitting 

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germs, hands down. 
Hands down where? 

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That's for you to find out when 
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us. 
That's for poinsettia after 

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dark. 
That's right. 

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Oh my God, we don't speak of 
poinsettia after dark. 

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I guess so for the third non 
naughty word, I'd say it's very 

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social and in terms of 
naughtiness can't be too naughty

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because I'm people are always 
trying to find a cancel, a 

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reason to cancel the league 
manager. 

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So double fault league managers 
fault, you know. 

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Why would you do that to them 
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If I had to do it to myself, 
everybody else has to supper 

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with me. 
That's fair, you know. 

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That's equanimity. 
I learned that in Buddhism 

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today. 
It should be a Buddhist. 

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I'm trying give me give me two 
more words to describe out loud.

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Let's describe and say flirty. 
Flirty. 

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Our very first season it was 
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finalists that were playing 
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dating and are now married with 
children. 

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So the love connections do 
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Now did they start dating like 
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Oh my God, the first set, if I'm
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them hit another one with a 
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love. 
That was love. 

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That's very sipsy pass coded 
this week in double S. 

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He had to hit. 
He just loves to hit anyone at 

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the net. 
There's so many reasons that 

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City Pass needs help, and that's
one of them, yeah. 

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Never mind his tweets, but yes, 
yeah, I think. 

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For the final, I don't think 
it's a word. 

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Let me use a term if I may, and 
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The library is always open 
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reading is still fundamental. 
Yeah, no, you guys had a great 

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social hour at High Tops last 
weekend that you were nice 

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enough to invite me to, and it 
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camaraderie and fellowship and 
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No one kissed me though, so I 
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up. 
You know, some of those Sunday 

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fun days that we have will go 
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three that people have had 
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Where? 
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out in the corner or those two 
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Where did they go? 
We know that that whole song and

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dance, and I'm going to not take
that as you saying people need 

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to be drunk to make out with a 
ball boy, the host of all boys. 

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No, no, no, no. 
Probably with me, but not with 

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you, no. 
Let's all make out to listeners.

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If you're sitting next to 
someone, kiss them. 

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So if if people want to join out
loud tennis, what would they do?

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Head on over to 
outloudsports.com and you'll see

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that Out Loud Sports is in a 
bunch of different cities across

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the United States and in Los 
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different leagues. 
Drop down and you'll find tennis

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and that's where you sign up. 
All right, awesome. 

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Well, folks, if you're looking 
for a fun, flirty, messy, sassy 

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libraries open League, head on 
over. 

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So let's get into some of the 
tennis. 

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And I want to talk just about 
like your state of mind for 

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tennis right now for 2026. 
Do you have a highlight of the 

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tours, men's or women's? 
Something that you've been like,

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oh, that was great. 
Yeah, I think it's it's been a 

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fun year so far. 
I I've my highlight would be 

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Carlos completing the career 
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He's so great for tennis. 
As the last five Masters has 

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reminded us, we need Carlos. 
We love Carlos. 

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Yeah. 
Oh my God, today was such a 

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snooze pass. 
We're getting into that. 

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But oh, I miss Carlos more and 
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yeah, his. 
Presence, he's just such a joy, 

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you know, it's the tennis is 
fantastic. 

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He adds drama to the Syncraz 
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It's just nice to see that. 
Yeah, no, he's he's he's a great

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guy. 
I mean, even watching him 

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applaud for his brother in the 
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I tried to make a meme, but I'm 
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I'm trying. 
But like, you remember that 

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Nicole Kidman clapping like she 
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together because of all of her 
jewelry. 

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He was clapping the same clap. 
It was it was cute. 

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And yeah, he's he's such a great
guy. 

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I hope this is not like a 
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moment starting. 
But I'm not going to speak that 

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into the universe, even though I
actually just did. 

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Yeah, no, I didn't even. 
I forgot that that with the 

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wrist was what did those two 
end. 

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Oh my. 
Oh, please, no. 

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I got to do something. 
No, no, no, no, we're doing some

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some dark magic, some dark 
mahika today. 

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OK, so moving on though, who is 
your ATP crush right now? 

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I mean, does it have to be just 
one? 

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Well, I mean, if you want a 
greedy, but actually, yes, it's 

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got to be 1. 
Ouch. 

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OK, well, if I have to take one,
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he's he's still out there and 
yet we haven't seen him in a 

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while. 
My number one in my heart, Borna

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Chorich. 
I knew you were going to say 

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that as soon as you said he 
wasn't out there, but he's still

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out there. 
I know, I know, Borna. 

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The, the love connection that he
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And I'm, I listen. 
I know I sound a little like 

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Kathy Bates of Misery right now,
but we made eye contact two 

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years in a row at Indian Wells 
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And I'm telling you, I don't 
think that was coincidental. 

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Eye contact two years in a row. 
He's when he is at that 

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tournament, he is my priority to
go see him. 

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I agree. 
Look, locking eyes once, that's 

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an accident. 
But we all speak, gay speak. 

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When you lock Isaac for a second
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The dance has begun. 
And the next time you see him, 

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that'll be the third time, which
makes a trend, which makes it 

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time for you to. 
To jump over the fence and slip 

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a ring on his finger. 
Slip a ring somewhere. 

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Yes, Yes. 
I've got your permission. 

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Yeah, my blessing the ball boys,
yes, 'cause I, I agree with him,

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but he is not someone that I'm 
currently in negotiations with 

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for a end cup of marriage. 
So we're we're good, you and I, 

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we're good. 
Yeah, no, just as heated though.

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Who is your WTA crush right now?
Well, my my newest is it going 

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to be my lobs VMS, so I'll save 
that. 

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But I'm I'm a big Jasmine 
Paolini. 

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Fan Oh give me like a quick 
reason why. 

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First of all, she's feisty and I
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watch. 
I made eye contact. 

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It's an eye contacted with me, I
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Wimbledon final because I was 
sitting. 

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I mentioned this to you before, 
but for the listeners, I got 

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lucky with the Wimbledon draw 
two years ago and I got to sit 

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on the 1st row like I could 
reach over and touch the grass. 

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And it was Paulini and Krjikova,
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And Paulini's team was sitting 
right above me. 

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So she would always look over in
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And at one point she had hit. 
She won this really great point.

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And I kind of gave her the fist 
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know, I'm Italian, I guess. 
And she looked right at me and, 

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you know, I don't think she was 
fist pumping for me, but she did

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give a fist pump, so. 
Wow. 

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Wait, was Sarah Ronnie right 
behind you then too? 

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She must have been. 
She was, she was. 

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Yeah. 
She's a tiny little thing. 

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She's so yitty bit. 
Oh, they're both little. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
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like, if you're having pasta, 
like watch out for Sarah, Ronnie

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sprinkling something on your 
pasta sauce 'cause that's why I 

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took her out. 
All right, good calls. 

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Last question, then, before we 
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are in a three-way, a throuple 
of masters, one thousands, I 

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just want you to pick Monte 
Carlo, Madrid or Rome. 

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You want me to rank them or just
pick one? 

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Pick one, you greedy bastard. 
Because I have opinions on all 

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of them. 
I do love Rome, but it's Monte 

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Carlo for me. 
Correct. 

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You, you, you win. 
Ding, Ding, Ding. 

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Yeah. 
You know, Madrid and the Kaha 

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Magica, it's got its own charm. 
But I will never forgive them 

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for the blue clay. 
But I also miss it, I know. 

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I feel the same way about it now
where it's like, I don't know if

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it's Stockholm syndrome or fever
dream or what, but like, it was 

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so weird. 
I like that they make choices. 

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But yeah, so. 
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is Monte Carlo, Rome, Madrid? 
Yes. 

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OK fair I I agree. 
I love Rome because of the 

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Colosseum and those statues and 
just like I love everything but 

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Italy. 
Like if I could move to a 

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country, which I guess we all 
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free will, but like Italy is 
just but we. 

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Might have to move to We might 
have to move to a new country 

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soon. 
Hey, you know, if they would 

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want to get rid of all of the 
homosexuals, I'll be the first 

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in line at Spirit Airlines and. 
Oh no. 

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Too soon, yeah. 
Let them have a moment, Paul. 

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Well, great catching up with 
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And that's our show. 
Just kidding. 

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We're now going to get into some
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start with our lobs beans. 
As always, the lobs bean is the 

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thing that just made us gayer 
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And I've got a few lobs beans. 
You already said you have at 

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least one. 
I'll jump in first. 

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I've got to start with the model
ball boys and ball girls, the 

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Madrid Open, so on center court 
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So if you are a ball boy or a 
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I'm sorry, you are not going to 
be America's Next Top Model or 

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even Madrid's next Top ball boy.
But on center court it is just 

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like it's so campy, it's 
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It's like these 6 foot 
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around the court. 
But they do a great job. 

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They do a really good job and I 
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But I do have one fear that I 
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phoning it in a little bit this 
year because the I think the 

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outfits might even have been the
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year. 
And like, look, this is such a 

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moment. 
Why not have a runway? 

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Why not have the latest Wilson 
kits? 

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Why not have something 
avant-garde? 

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And on the weekend of the 
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this is the fashion you're going
to bring. 

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So I know I just had a ton, but 
what do you think of models the?

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Crime of it all. 
You're absolutely right. 

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Like it's very have you been to 
Spain? 

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I've been to Barcelona. 
Yes, at which is one of my 

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favorite cities on the planet. 
I also did really love Madrid. 

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It's there's something very 
Spanish about the weird choices.

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It's like they've got this fun 
like playfulness about their 

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whole country, but they're also 
they're just not afraid to take 

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big swings. 
So sure why the hell out have 

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models on the court. 
I don't care. 

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Yeah, and like, I might get 
cancelled for this, but I like 

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attractive people. 
I think it's fun to have like 

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hot bald people and like both 
boys and girls like I, I think 

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it's it's great. 
When it was just the women, I 

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was like, that's a little weird.
But now that it's men and women 

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as the models, great. 
It's like Goldie Hawn said in in

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First Wives Club, Youth and 
beauty man, you know, and that's

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it, that's all she said. 
But it, it, it applies here. 

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That's the whole lie. 
So wait, what's what is one of 

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your Loftians? 
Haley Baptiste. 

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Oh. 
That's Cinderella run was was so

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much fun. 
Like what she did to Belinda 

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Benchich was very shocking. 
And then and then Samuel Anka. 

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Yeah. 
Oh yeah, I am a big Baptiste 

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fan. 
What a jock. 

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And I almost put her down as a 
lesbian too, specifically for 

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how she smashed that racket 
against Benchich like a fucking 

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boss. 
Oh, I got a tingle. 

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If you're going to smash a 
racket, smash it full out, You 

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know what I mean? 
Like, don't. 

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Don't just do it once, because 
then you look like you're not 

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committed to it. 
Well, and also it's kind of 

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embarrassing, like if you try to
smash a racket, it only gets 

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like slightly dented, like, no 
time of death right now. 

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Like that racket is done. 
Yeah, right, 100%. 

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She's got some biciness to her 
and you know, I, I, I like some 

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attitude. 
I like some swag. 

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You know, Oh yeah, she's 
bringing a really interesting 

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element to the game. 
But yeah, exactly. 

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Some swag, a different game 
style, almost a little bit of 

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retro game style, not chip and 
charge, but like more sort of 

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moving forward and yeah, love. 
Those are the players in general

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right now that I am loving 
because you know, Carlos and 

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Yannick, they have got the 
baseline locked down. 

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So I want to see a player, you 
know, if you're, if you're going

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to hit the the line, the 
baseline with your forehand, I 

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want you to follow that into the
net. 

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Maybe they don't get it back, 
but at least you're giving us 

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something different, you know? 
Yeah, that that's such a good 

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point. 
I mean, honestly, I don't think 

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that anyone's going to out hit 
Carlos or Yannick now. 

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Like you better come up with a 
new strategy and if that's like 

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Casper Roots 30 Rally Moon ball,
then you know that's what it's 

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going to be. 
But you got to do something so I

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also I. 
My only issue with Haley 

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Baptiste though is that 
necklace. 

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A little much, but you know, 
we've seen weird fashion 

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choices, especially this year. 
I was not a Naomi Osaka dress 

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fan, but you know what? 
A necklace in in retrospect, is 

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not such a bad thing. 
Oh yeah, I know the the 

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existence of a necklace, yes, 
that one in particular. 

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But you know, that's the beauty 
of the world. 

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Not everyone has to have the 
same opinions on neck jewelry. 

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So gay men. 
So my last lob to be in was 

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inspired by yesterday's women's 
final. 

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But also thinking back to the 
Hamburg final for women is just 

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the WTA championship 
celebrations. 

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I'm obsessed because we have 
such a spectrum of absurdity 

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from Rabacana's Hamburg win, 
where it didn't even look like 

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she realized she won a 
tournament, much less a match. 

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It was like, maybe she maybe 
she'd won a set, but she wins 

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the final and just kept her 
casual walk up and she's like, 

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all right, thanks, goodbye. 
And then balanced with Marta 

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Kostiak's backflip straight out 
of Bring It On. 

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You know, she was Eliza Dushku, 
like double backflip, double 

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handspring, whatever. 
After winning her inaugural 1000

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title. 
I just I loved both of those 

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celebrations. 
Nathan, if you had to pick one 

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of the celebrations, which are 
you going to pick? 

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I'm 1000% a backhand spring fan.
That's the sort of thing, 

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though, that if she starts 
winning lots of titles and she 

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does it after everyone, it's 
going to be tired very quickly. 

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But I love the the genuine, the 
strangeness of it. 

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And we need some good 
celebrations because Rebecca and

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Sinner, I'm sorry, boring with 
their celebrations? 

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No, thank you. 
But Rebecca is is so boring that

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it kind of comes to the other 
side of like, Oh my God, the 

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spectacle of how like psychotic 
it is. 

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I I. 
Appreciate it. 

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I think the moment if she if she
were to complete the slam, the 

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career slam and celebrates it 
with a fist pump, then it 

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becomes camp and now I'm on 
board. 

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Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
I agree also with the backflip. 

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It was like when or Mira 
Andreva, who is destined to not 

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win a tournament right now. 
Maybe last year when she won a 

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few tournaments in a row and 
each time she thanked herself in

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her winter speech, the first 
time cute 'cause it was like, Oh

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my God, you're hilarious. 
And then she did it again and it

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was like, oh wait, no, this is 
yeah, not as good. 

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It is as the kids would say. 
Cringe. 

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Cringe. 
Yes, that is what it was, Mira. 

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Can I also say something else 
about celebrations and throw on 

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the subject? 
No can we make? 

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Can we make? 
Oh no. 

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OK Bo, have a good day. 
What? 

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Am I going to say no? 
Yes, please. 

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Please. 
Can we can we make a rule or can

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we write a letter to somebody 
about people going to hug their 

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team after winning any title? 
But can we stop? 

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Like, can you just get the 
trophy and get the hell out of 

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there? 
Pat Josh started the stupidest 

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tradition and not everybody has 
to do it after every title that 

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they win. 
I completely agree. 

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I think we need some sort of new
behavior, like maybe the team 

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comes down and rushes you, you 
know, you win and everyone comes

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onto the court and celebrates 
going up. 

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I agree. 
Cause like half the time they 

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don't know how to get up there. 
The other half it's like a weird

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hug or a bad high 5 and it's 
like, it's just, yeah, I, I 

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agree. 
Yeah, down with fun fun. 

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Fun police, we've had enough. 
Yeah, we've had enough of that. 

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Now it is time for twit and that
is this week in tennis. 

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As always, there is so much 
tennis going on all over the 

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place. 
We can't possibly cover every 

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match. 
So listeners, if you were here 

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for every score, you're going to
be more disappointed than I was 

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when I found out the shrimp Taco
station was shut down before I 

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could even fill my plate up. 
Which by the way, I mean, I'm 

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sure you heard all about that, 
right? 

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The that was, that's what that 
was the shrimp tacos that that 

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did it. 
There's so much controversy 

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around tournament food these 
days, like maybe they're going 

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to stop serving food at some 
point. 

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Well, I'm just wondering, like, 
who is sending it over there? 

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Like, is it American GMO or 
Campbell's soup or something 

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like like shrimp in Madrid 
should be fantastic, you know? 

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I think it's Novak. 
I think Novak is trying to 

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whittle everybody down so he has
a chance to win another title, I

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mean. 
We're not going to do many 

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predictions about French Open 
right now, but he is my dark 

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horse. 
I'm just saying it right now. 

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He's kind of the only hope, 
really. 

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You can see this. 
Vera is not going to do it. 

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This Vera is not going to do it.
No, no, no, no. 

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00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,240
But OK, well, let's talk about 
Madrid, though first. 

446
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,520
So the biggest tournament since 
the last show was Madrid just 

447
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,640
wrapped up today in the Kaha 
Kaha Mahika. 

448
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,160
And look, you can call me a 
matador because I'm generally 

449
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,400
not very bullish on this 
tournament, but I did kind of 

450
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,160
love this year because we had a 
lot of new faces, a lot of new 

451
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,200
narratives. 
The next Gen. from last year was

452
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,600
just like, oh, this is our time.
A lot of unpredictability the 

453
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,040
the WTA, like no top seeds made 
it to the semis. 

454
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,400
Like I enjoy a chaotic moment 
when we've been in kind of like 

455
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,040
a a bit of a boring phase 
overall for the tours where it's

456
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,360
like, yeah, we've got the top, 
the top 2 on the men and the top

457
00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:02,520
4 on the women are kind of like 
all that have been doing much. 

458
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:08,920
So I was into this one overall. 
Nathaniel, can I call you 

459
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,760
Nathaniel? 
Sure, my sister does and it's 

460
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,440
not on my birth certificate, but
you go for it. 

461
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,760
Oh, oh, is it not your? 
What's your legal name? 

462
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,880
Beth? 
It's. 

463
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,720
Beth Beth Nathan. 
Beth Nathan. 

464
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,720
It's actually Thomas Nathan 
Brazell. 

465
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,880
Really. 
Oh, yeah. 

466
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,560
See. 
Whenever someone tells me that 

467
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,320
they're actually going by their 
middle name, something is just 

468
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,120
always very unsettling. 
Why do you not go by your first 

469
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,880
name? 
It's because I have secrets that

470
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,720
you didn't know that. 
It's because I'm a junior and my

471
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,680
dad is Tommy. 
And he is, I was born in a small

472
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,240
town and he was very pop is very
popular. 

473
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,040
So it was sort of like, to kind 
of avoid the confusion, I've 

474
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,680
just always gone by some 
variation of my middle name. 

475
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,240
Just the most exciting story on 
the planet. 

476
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,760
Well, I'm, I still think it's 
because you're a spy, but, you 

477
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,960
know, sure, your dad's popular. 
OK, we'll go with that. 

478
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,840
If I am, I wouldn't tell you. 
Well anyway, Nathan, how many 

479
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,120
balls would you give the Madrid 
Open overall? 

480
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,360
I'm going to go ahead and give 
it three out of five. 

481
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,880
I am not a fan of this 12 day 
master schedule. 

482
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,880
I feel like I've been watching 
this tournament since like Obama

483
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,160
was in office. 
It's just so long. 

484
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,000
My God. 
Also, you brought up Obama and 

485
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,800
I'm just going to be sad for a 
minute, but OK, yeah, keep 

486
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,520
going. 
Sorry to bring it down, but also

487
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,360
is to borrow from the endlessly 
annoying Brad Gilbert. 

488
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:38,440
I got to give the tournament a 
red card where they're seating 

489
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,840
around the court, like the seats
near the court. 

490
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,080
The most of the tournament, it 
looked like they were playing to

491
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:47,960
an empty stadium because those 
must be super expensive and 

492
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,520
nobody was sitting in them. 
And so only when they would pull

493
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,400
back would you be like, Oh yeah,
they're actually people at this 

494
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,280
match. 
Every freaking tournament that 

495
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,040
does this and it happens so 
often, and I don't know if it's 

496
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,160
because it's corporate sponsors 
or yeah, people buy tickets on 

497
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,800
go or that's just so expensive. 
But yeah, I agree. 

498
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,320
I I hate seeing a partially 
empty stadium. 

499
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,200
It's like, where's the 
atmosphere, you know? 

500
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,960
I mean, yeah, I think you 
brought this up before on the 

501
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,840
podcast. 
It is the insitification of 

502
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,920
America. 
It's thanks private equity. 

503
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,080
You know, I could go on a ramp 
and I vote this is about tennis.

504
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,760
No private equity is about to 
ruin tennis. 

505
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,560
Well, it's between that and 
Saudi Arabia, but well, you 

506
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,800
know, oh that girl. 
But OK, so getting into some of 

507
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,600
the action. 
So we just had the men's final 

508
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,520
and we had a Sinner 5 peat 
demolition Derby. 

509
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,280
He wins his fifth Masters 1000 
in a row. 

510
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,560
This has never been done before 
and that's amazing. 

511
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,560
It was the most boring final 
that I've seen. 

512
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,640
I guess Zverev was maybe a 
little injured, I don't know, 

513
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,440
but he wins 6162. 
Never in doubt from the first 

514
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,200
game. 
I don't know, I was bored. 

515
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,120
Yeah, it was the the definition 
of mechanical. 

516
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,720
We we like I said earlier, we 
realize how much we need Carlos 

517
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,360
because sooner. 
I mean, look, I have all the 

518
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:15,000
respect in the world for him. 
He's he's a machine, but I also 

519
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,000
don't love the machine of it 
all. 

520
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,600
Like Carlos, just like, you 
know, just like Roger, just like

521
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,320
Rafa. 
They, they they felt like arts. 

522
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,000
They felt like they were they 
were creating something magical.

523
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:30,960
Novak to me and Sinner to me are
the same breed of like Yvonne 

524
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,880
Lendl robots on the court. 
And I just don't and I just 

525
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,360
don't care. 
I I don't that doesn't impress. 

526
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,120
I mean, that doesn't inspire me 
as a fan. 

527
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,520
Yeah, I thought you're going to 
start singing Shania Twain. 

528
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,240
That don't impress me much. 
Don't. 

529
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,320
Just like her. 
Thank you. 

530
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,400
I was also thinking about have 
you seen that meme of Melania 

531
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,760
and the robots? 
The robots are coming. 

532
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,560
The robots are here. 
And that is yeah, I agree. 

533
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,840
I I enjoy Yonics in her in every
interview. 

534
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,800
I think he's really charming and
nice on the court. 

535
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:10,000
He's not that artistic. 
It's it's interesting though, 

536
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,360
because commentators, the entire
Madrid Open, we're talking about

537
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:19,120
how he was almost using this 
tournament as practice to bring 

538
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:23,680
in some of that artistry and 
like do some drop shots and do 

539
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,120
some things that are a little 
less expected. 

540
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:30,840
But it felt kind of like 
watching a robot learn how to 

541
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,960
paint or like AI learn how to 
like write a song. 

542
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,200
The thing about Carlos and Rafa 
and Rogers, they are natural 

543
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,720
born artists and creatures. 
Yannick is a killer who is 

544
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,400
learning how to like paint a 
beautiful picture that will end 

545
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,960
up being beautiful but it 
doesn't feel as natural. 

546
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,720
And I don't mean to crap on him 
because I'm also like so 

547
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,200
impressed with what he's doing. 
No one. 

548
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,760
I mean, I was surprised that no 
one had done this before, but no

549
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,680
one's ever won 5 masters in a 
row. 

550
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,080
You know it, that's crazy to me 
too. 

551
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,920
I I guess when you think about 
it like the big three, you know,

552
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,040
they always had each other to 
deal with and Thinner has kind 

553
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,880
of done this during a stretch 
where Carlos is not really a 

554
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,520
factor. 
So, you know, will we see this 

555
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,880
again from him? 
Who knows? 

556
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,880
I don't know, maybe we'll see a 
six next week. 

557
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,400
Yeah, I don't want us to pull 
out our mahika balls just yet, 

558
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,000
but I, I, I think the only way 
he loses, actually, I'm not 

559
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,080
going to. 
Say it good. 

560
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,480
Listeners, our balls are staying
in the can until the end of the 

561
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,480
show and then it's balls out. 
But yeah, so he beats Zverev. 

562
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,120
I don't love talking about 
Zverev too much. 

563
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,880
Zverev took out an exciting next
gener though. 

564
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,640
Alexander Blocks. 
Unfortunately, Zverev knocked 

565
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,960
his blocks off in the sammies. 
Pretty straightforward. 

566
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:51,320
And then we had Sinner and Fees.
A sexy match up in theory, but 

567
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:56,080
not a great match. 
I love Arthur Fees entire 

568
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,640
comeback story. 
He is asserting himself. 

569
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,720
He's definitely not at his peak 
yet, but I mean, he's playing 

570
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,320
top ten, top five tennis right 
now. 

571
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,440
But what I don't like is his 
losses are not great. 

572
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,920
So his loss here, terrible. 
His loss in Miami to Leska, 

573
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,440
terrible. 
His loss, I think it was in Doha

574
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,240
to Carlos in like a 20 minute 
final. 

575
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,800
He goes all out, he empties the 
tank, and he has nothing left 

576
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,280
for the next round. 
I am curious to see what his 

577
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,440
ceiling is because is he on this
like hot streak or is he 

578
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,600
genuinely going to reach and 
stay at the top of the game? 

579
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,800
You know, we see so many of 
these players kind of come and 

580
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,680
they make a lot of noise and 
then they fade away. 

581
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,920
You know, we'll see. 
I mean, fees seems to be the 

582
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,560
real deal and but I think he's 
also had some good draws. 

583
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,400
But he's for many reasons, very 
exciting to watch. 

584
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,240
He knows what he's doing in 
those ABS. 

585
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,200
I mean, that's what a tennis 
player should look like. 

586
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,600
I mean, come on. 
You know, you're not wrong. 

587
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,920
I I'm with you there. 
All right, glad we're not 

588
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,600
fighting. 
Finally. 

589
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,040
I want to talk about the Next 
Geners, though, real quick, the 

590
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,840
Kris Geners and the Next Geners.
They made some big splashes in 

591
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,800
this tournament. 
So I got to start with Rafael 

592
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,200
Rafa. 
There's a new Rafa Rafa Hodar 

593
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,720
Hodor. 
Hold the door. 

594
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,480
Hold. 
Your door. 

595
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,760
Oh very dare you. 
He Spanish 19 year old. 

596
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,400
He won Marrakech and he made a 
run all the way to the quarters.

597
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,440
There were a few noteworthy 
things about him in this 

598
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,600
tournament. 
First was just how he absolute 

599
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,400
dismantled Diminhauer. 
It was like 6163. 

600
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,080
It was a lion flicking a flea 
off of its back. 

601
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,600
I was shocked. 
I mean, I we don't spend too 

602
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,680
much time on it, but what the 
heck is going on with Dimanauer?

603
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,400
Like he's just fallen off. 
Like he's he's in the top 10. 

604
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,080
Yeah, it's he's giving David 
Ferrer. 

605
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,600
David Ferrer, excuse me, who I 
always enjoyed, but you know 

606
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,880
what, like against these big 
players, against these these all

607
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,040
time greats, you're, you just 
don't have anything kind of 

608
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,080
really but your wheels. 
And that's not enough against 

609
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,200
these big guys, you know? 
Yeah, Speaking of ceilings, he 

610
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,600
reached his ceiling and it's 
great what he's done. 

611
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,880
But yeah, yeah. 
David Ferrer. 

612
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,160
I mean, I so you know how the 
Nothing Major podcast does all 

613
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,240
these hottie brackets, which is 
stealing our bag and we should 

614
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,240
be doing it. 
I want to do a tournament 

615
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,320
director hottie bracket and 
David Ferrer in Barcelona 

616
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,280
because he's looking better than
ever. 

617
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,880
So good for you. 
David Ferrer. 

618
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,840
Come on, the pod. 
If you put Davi Ferreira and 

619
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,680
Feliciano Lopez together, it's 
like I'm watching this video. 

620
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,680
Yeah, even if even if it's in 
front of Garbina Mugarutha's 

621
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,760
salad because she's now the Co 
director of Madrid. 

622
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,720
But yes. 
She's beautiful too. 

623
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,400
She she makes me have. 
Thoughts. 

624
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,120
Yeah, yeah. 
Hodar though. 

625
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,280
Just going back to him real 
quick. 

626
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,080
The match of the tournament for 
me was Hodar versus Fonseca, 

627
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:17,960
Next Gen. on Next Gen., 19 year 
olds and the crowd, it was the 

628
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,720
first time I'd ever seen the 
very strong Brazilian crowd, 

629
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,960
which follows Fonseca everywhere
matched by another crowd and 

630
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,640
which was the home turf of Hodar
in Spain. 

631
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,200
The crowd was great. 
It was electric. 

632
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,560
There were no empty seats on 
that stadium and it was a 

633
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,000
pretty, I mean, the first two 
sets are great. 

634
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,280
The last set was not great but 
I'm excited about oh I can see 

635
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,600
Hodar Hodor coming and like I 
could see him tripping up 

636
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,880
Sinner. 
I think he gave Sinner the 

637
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,240
toughest test of the tournament.
I think, you know, that first 

638
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,000
step was a eye breaker, if I'm 
not mistaken, against Sinner and

639
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,280
I, I love his aggression like I 
love the clocks of Oz Big Boy 

640
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,320
tennis. 
He does follow into the net, you

641
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,880
know, like I'm like, this is 
this, this is what we want to 

642
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,320
see, you know? 
Yes, yeah. 

643
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,080
And then you know, he had his 
his next Gen. brother Alexander 

644
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,199
blocks all the way to the semis 
like we talked about. 

645
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,280
I do love his last name because 
it sounds like a cryptocurrency 

646
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,120
fucked APE firm. 
It sounds like block. 

647
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:24,320
X like, OK, but you know, I, 
I've been wondering in recent 

648
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,040
years, is the Next Gen. 
tournament even not necessary 

649
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,600
anymore? 
Because I kind of felt like they

650
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,719
brought it in because the big 
three made it impossible for 

651
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,239
guys coming up to get any 
attention. 

652
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,440
But looking at what has happened
and like even like other ones 

653
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,320
like Landa Luce and Lerner Tien,
who won Next Gen. last year, 

654
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,800
like I love this class of the 
Next Geners. 

655
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:51,760
I have a confession to make. 
I haven't watched a single 

656
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,600
minute of the next Gen. finals. 
It is always felt a little 

657
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,240
gimmicky to me. 
But if you say that I should 

658
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:00,360
watch, I will watch. 
And I think if we're going to 

659
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,600
have a men's next Gen. we should
have a women's. 

660
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,760
Why the hell not? 
It's 2026, for God's sake. 

661
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,880
Right. 
Part of me wondered like, oh, 

662
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,320
because often on the WTA they 
peak earlier in their career. 

663
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,560
Like, you know, you can be an 18
year old in the top five, but 

664
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,360
still, I would love to see, you 
know, these up and comers play. 

665
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,720
So here's the thing about next 
Gen. the finals. 

666
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,000
It is kind of nice because it's 
totally different format. 

667
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,800
It's games to four. 
I think it's no ad scoring. 

668
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,280
So the matches are like 40 
minutes long. 

669
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,640
It's really fast. 
So it's like a taste of tennis, 

670
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,520
which sometimes I'm like, well, 
you don't really see like how 

671
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,960
good they're going to get. 
But it's more that these Next 

672
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,480
Gen. tournaments have just they 
they've been really good at 

673
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,400
identifying who's going to who's
going to be that. 

674
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,800
I mean, the first time I ever 
saw Yannick Sinner was at the 

675
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,720
Next Gen. finals. 
He was given a wild card in it 

676
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,560
because Italy was hosting it. 
And I think he won that year. 

677
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,400
And it was like, and it was the 
first time I heard that Sinner 

678
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,160
boom on his forehead. 
And I was like, what was that? 

679
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,080
But it's great that we have all 
that good news because we've got

680
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,880
some rough news. 
So like we've said, Alcarez is 

681
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,000
out with a wrist injury. 
You know, with great wrist comes

682
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,360
great reward. 
Is that what they say? 

683
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,200
Yeah, sure, sure. 
Yeah. 

684
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,840
It was great to see him win the 
Laureus Award along with 

685
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,800
Sabalenka. 
I don't know if I really care 

686
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:27,800
that much about the Laureus 
Awards. 

687
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,240
Do you care about the Laureus 
Awards? 

688
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,000
Not really. 
No, I like that they were all in

689
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,680
tuxedos. 
Like he and Yanuk look great 

690
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,600
that night and the the guy who 
looked the best that night. 

691
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,000
And y'all. 
This might be the photo I put on

692
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,560
for the BATP list, but Lorenzo 
Mousetti, he he can wear a 

693
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,520
tuxedo. 
Makes everyone look like they 

694
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,600
were. 
They're in trash bags. 

695
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,640
Trash. 
I mean, when, when they do the, 

696
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,640
the year and finals and they 
always have the, the guys 

697
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,640
dressed up in like suits, 
whatever for like the photo 

698
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,400
shoots. 
A suit makes a tennis player 

699
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,480
look amazing. 
Even the ones that I'm not 

700
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,560
attracted to, like Sasha, like 
I'll be like, oh, he, he, he 

701
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,000
looks good in a suit, you know, 
go figure. 

702
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,800
Right. 
Yeah. 

703
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,800
I don't know if my disdain for 
him can be overcome by a suit, 

704
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,600
but Amen. 
But yes, they all, I mean, Alex 

705
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,120
gave an hour when he was in a 
suit. 

706
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,880
Rublev. 
Yes, they had a suit. 

707
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,480
I love a suit. 
Should we bring back suits? 

708
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,000
You mean on the tennis court? 
No, you and I just like, I don't

709
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,560
know, in life. 
Yeah. 

710
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,080
Next time we get lunch, we're 
gonna do it in suits. 

711
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,440
Down, down. 
I've got a suit just for you. 

712
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:39,440
Yes, and also some terrible news
for you, Draper out with a knee 

713
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,880
injury after last year's, like 
arm and leg and whatever injury,

714
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,720
he just can't catch a goddamn 
break. 

715
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:47,440
So he's out until at least 
Wimbledon. 

716
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,360
Nathan, are you OK 'cause I know
that he is high on your list. 

717
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,040
Yeah, no, I'm not going to be 
OK. 

718
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,480
Just plain assembly. 
I'm not. 

719
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,840
It's not fair. 
Why do we have to watch 

720
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,400
Medvedev's ugly tentacle swings 
every single tournament? 

721
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,200
But a specimen of a of a man 
like Jack Draper, who also 

722
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,600
happens to play really good 
tennis. 

723
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,320
He's just out. 
Yeah, You know, we get to watch 

724
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,000
Rubelev, you know, miss every 
third shot and. 

725
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,440
Yeah, but. 
But Jack Draper is out. 

726
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,120
Not only does Rubelev miss every
third shot, he then attacks his 

727
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,280
leg with the ferocity of Haley 
Baptiste, breaking her racket. 

728
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,120
Why is his leg not injured? 
He's like, and then he just 

729
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,120
walks it up bleeding. 
But Jack Draper, our porcelain 

730
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,720
doll from the UK, injured and. 
Poor Jack. 

731
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,360
Poor poor Jack. 
Maybe I should find a way to 

732
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,200
comfort, you know, him. 
I I I could come up with some 

733
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,360
ideas. 
Yeah, like a care package or 

734
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,840
like. 
I'll deliver it in person and 

735
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,480
and you know, it'll just be 
between US and nobody has to 

736
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,720
know. 
That's what I have in mind. 

737
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,240
And that is when Nathan will 
change his name yet again. 

738
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,440
Nathan Draper. 
Fine, do it. 

739
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Nathan Draper. 
Oh, that actually sounds really 

740
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,880
good. 
Nathan Draper. 

741
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,240
It's like a like a spy. 
There we go with the spy again. 

742
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,440
Again, I know you're a terrible 
spy. 

743
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,200
You're like everything is a 
tell. 

744
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:09,880
She's giving all my secrets 
away. 

745
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,800
Sounds like I'm a spy. 
Oh shit, I'm a spy. 

746
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,840
I'm. 
Not going to say that. 

747
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,600
But yeah, I mean, you know, the 
Bay TP is getting decimated 

748
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,560
between Carlos and and Draper 
and and look, I I say this also 

749
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,080
all the time on this freaking 
show, it's the equipment. 

750
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,400
It's just like when the Olympics
went to the full body suits and 

751
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,360
everyone's breaking every world 
record left and right. 

752
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,840
Like, look, the equipment is 
great, but it is causing so much

753
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:42,000
torque and pressure on shoulders
and wrists and knees and 

754
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,360
everything. 
Like we're just going to destroy

755
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,800
our players bodies before they 
can have their like, real 

756
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,800
potential. 
And it's kind of sad, you know? 

757
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,600
Maybe the solution is for a 
couple of tournaments a year we 

758
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,520
have to go back to wood rockets.
I would love that. 

759
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,560
I'd like to see that, you know? 
Because, you know, then we're 

760
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,800
going to have the tacticians, 
the skilled artists winning like

761
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,920
Jasmine Paulini will clean up. 
Oh my God. 

762
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,960
And you know what? 
One of my favorite things to do,

763
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,240
and to all you tennis fans out 
there who I'm assuming is 

764
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:17,600
everybody that's listening to 
this podcast, one of my favorite

765
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,720
things to do is to get on 
YouTube and watch like Stefan 

766
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:25,360
Edberg and especially like 
Edberg Becker, Edberg Sampras. 

767
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,600
It's just a style you just don't
see anymore. 

768
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,320
And it's it's foreign to me 
because I wasn't playing tennis 

769
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,760
back then. 
I wasn't watching tennis back 

770
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,560
then. 
And I was just like, man, that's

771
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,040
So what? 
That's so cool. 

772
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:36,880
It's such a cool style of 
playing. 

773
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,000
It really is a different sport. 
I totally agree and also fun 

774
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,040
fact Stefan Edberg was one of my
gay sexual awakenings. 

775
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,720
I. 
Mean, I get it, those little 

776
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,120
booty shorts that he was 
wearing. 

777
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,360
Tiny white shorts and like, you 
know, one other highlight from 

778
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,560
the men's eye. 
Or it's just like a funny moment

779
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,680
of Hugo Umber and Terence 
Atmain. 

780
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,080
You know, it's kind of like 
Fashion Rd. 

781
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,560
Kill from Sex and the City. 
But Atmain was so cramped up 

782
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,040
during their deciding set tie 
break that he could not get off 

783
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,120
the ground and it was time to 
change ends. 

784
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,640
And so Hugo Umber just went to 
the other side and was standing 

785
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,120
against the fence. 
It led to some of the funniest 

786
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:20,080
photos and memes of just like 
one guy leaning against the 

787
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,720
wall, the other guy writhing in 
pain. 

788
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:22,960
And it was just like, what are 
we? 

789
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,400
What are we doing to these 
players? 

790
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,240
It it's almost begs the the 
question of is it time to change

791
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:30,240
the rules? 
Because I don't think it was 

792
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:31,560
fair. 
It was definitely not fair to 

793
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,320
admin, but it was also not fair 
to medical. 

794
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,880
Personal bait TP Hugo Umber 
because as soon as he started 

795
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,560
like screaming on the reference,
got down out of the chair, Hugo 

796
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,640
kind of had to go over there and
do something like just give 

797
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,480
support because he was going to 
get savaged if he didn't. 

798
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,680
But it also took away his mojo. 
And like, he got, he got in his 

799
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,680
head and he shit the bed. 
Pardon me? 

800
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,120
Sure, maybe the solution is you 
lose that game if you get 

801
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,240
cramps, but you're allowed to 
get treatment for them. 

802
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,400
I don't know. 
Something's got to change. 

803
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,960
Something and it's just like it 
happened so often and it's like 

804
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,720
these guys are killing 
themselves and I can't think of 

805
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:15,760
another sport that is so 
punitive towards its players 

806
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,800
where it's like, no, sorry, suck
it up. 

807
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,880
Yeah, it's it's like the head of
the HP is just sitting in his 

808
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,280
office smoking a cigarette. 
No, no, you get a cramp. 

809
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:33,880
You shouldn't finish the match. 
Well, on the ladies side, we 

810
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,320
also had a ton of stories. 
We've covered some of them with 

811
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,840
Hailey Baptiste, but of course 
we're going to start with the 

812
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,240
final. 
Another geopolitical heavyweight

813
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,880
clash. 
I don't know what it is on the 

814
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,840
WTA versus ATP. 
The ATP, it's like I'm from 

815
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,520
Italy and I'm Spanish and I'm 
from Norway. 

816
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,040
And on the women's side, it's 
I'm Bella Russian, I'm Russian, 

817
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,640
I'm Ukrainian. 
These people who like really are

818
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,120
at war, like literally at war. 
So we we end up with a Russian 

819
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,800
who has expressed prudent 
support versus the Ukrainian who

820
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,160
literally won't shake hands with
a Russian and cries during her 

821
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,280
own national anthem playing each
other. 

822
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,880
Mira Andreva is the Russian and 
Marta Kostiak is the Ukrainian. 

823
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,120
So just like wild tension, it's 
like, what's going to happen? 

824
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,560
Yeah, I, I forgot that they 
don't shake hands. 

825
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:22,960
So I realized she didn't shake 
her hand. 

826
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,360
I was like, what the hell is 
that about? 

827
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,520
But I also felt I kind of felt 
bad from Mira Andreva, like she 

828
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,240
was crying so hard at losing 
that I'm like, is she going to 

829
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:32,840
get beaten when she goes back to
Russia? 

830
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,480
Like what is happening? 
I felt a little bad for her. 

831
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,360
I mean Mira, she's on my list 
right now Like I don't love her.

832
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,520
I I find it entertaining like 
when she cussed out the entire 

833
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,560
stadium in Indian Wells. 
Oh my God, just like fuck you, 

834
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,680
fuck you, fuck you like it was 
like whoa, like crazy. 

835
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,800
But it's also like girl. 
She needs to do some some inner 

836
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,160
child work, I think and some re 
parenting maybe. 

837
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,040
But it was sad like how much she
cried. 

838
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,680
But I also love that she wants 
it so much because I am tired of

839
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,920
these people losing finals and 
be like, good job. 

840
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,520
I couldn't do anything. 
I'll see you next time. 

841
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,440
And it's like no, no, no, no, 
no, no. 

842
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:14,240
I want you to be like like. 
And and she was in the double S 

843
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:15,800
finals, the women's double S 
finals too. 

844
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,320
Yeah, she lost. 
She lost to Taylor Townsend and 

845
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,360
Signakova. 
But good for her, you know, she 

846
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,800
is she the female Medvedev, 
Because when she was in the 

847
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,280
early round and she started 
screaming about it smells like 

848
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,160
bullshit over here. 
I'm like, what? 

849
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,280
What that What are you ranting 
about now? 

850
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,920
I want to know exactly what she 
was talking about, but I also 

851
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,120
don't want to know because, you 
know, why was she smelling 

852
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,640
something? 
Or was she referring to her 

853
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,880
gameplay? 
Like she was clearly upset about

854
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,200
something. 
Or was it the Taco station was 

855
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,560
right next to the court? 
I don't know. 

856
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,040
She was like smells like or is 
like everyone's crapping their 

857
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,520
pants. 
And I do appreciate that Moxie. 

858
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:58,840
I think it's just about she's a 
kid and she needs to grow up and

859
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,640
do some some some self 
reflection, like I said. 

860
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,280
And also like, maybe stop 
supporting Putin and. 

861
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,920
You know what, If you're going 
to do it, keep it to yourself. 

862
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,960
We don't want to hear it. 
Yeah, yeah. 

863
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,200
But Marta takes it into it was 
not a great match. 

864
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,120
It was really windy, so that 
kind of got in the way. 

865
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,440
So it was like a kind of sloppy 
2 setter. 

866
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,520
Shout out, though, to Marta's 
Wilson kit. 

867
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,440
Wilson is the only tennis entity
killing the the fashion game 

868
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,440
right now. 
Nike is turning out things that 

869
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,360
look like a four year old drew 
them in in arts and crafts, and 

870
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,080
meanwhile Wilson is classy and 
it's stylish. 

871
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,360
Spare me all your overpriced 
Lululemon and your soulless aloe

872
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,080
beige nonsense. 
Give me Wilson, give it to me. 

873
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,480
Yeah, it, it flowed so well. 
The back was beautiful. 

874
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,600
Like if the colors were right. 
And hot tip y'all, the outlets 

875
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,920
at Morongo have an amazing 
Wilson store that I hit up every

876
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,280
time I come back from Palm 
Springs. 

877
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:02,680
So because Wilson got the 
cheapest. 

878
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,120
But anyway. 
But you know what? 

879
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,640
But worth it because neither is 
Nike and and Nike again, it the 

880
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,800
it's loud. 
It's it's not creative at all. 

881
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,600
It's like they're like, oh shit,
the Australian Open's coming up.

882
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,800
We got to line something, get 
Eddie from accounting to Draw 

883
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,720
Something. 
You know, exactly. 

884
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,280
Yeah, Like you mentioned, there 
was no handshake at the end. 

885
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,400
There was also no handshake 
between Marta Kostik and put a 

886
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,000
POVA in the semis, even though 
she's Austrian now. 

887
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,120
I'm calling it TSA Kostchek. 
You can tell someone's 

888
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,160
geopolitical affiliations based 
on whether or not Marta Kostik 

889
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,240
will shake her hand. 
Like, it's like she's got tabs 

890
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:46,480
on everybody. 
And someone who's actually 

891
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,360
saying this, another chat that 
I'm in, he was like, I wonder if

892
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,920
she would shake Anna Samova's 
hand. 

893
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,960
You know, like, I don't know. 
Yeah, it's a good question. 

894
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,800
It's it's so funny to me that 
that I guess, I guess maybe 

895
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,760
Kostick is still mad about World
War 2. 

896
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,760
Is that why she's not shaking in
Austria, Adopova's hand? 

897
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,560
She's Austrian? 
Or is it because she's born in 

898
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,240
Russia? 
No, it's because she, yeah, she 

899
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:11,720
just, she's mad about Sound of 
Music. 

900
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,000
And Patapova is like about as 
Austrian as I am. 

901
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,400
I was like, what's that song? 
Edel Vice? 

902
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:23,400
I was like Edel Slice Slice 
because she's like not Austrian 

903
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,360
at all. 
And they just had the Lintz 

904
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,520
tournament and they're like, 
she's going further than any 

905
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,120
Austrian woman is gone. 
It's like girl, her passports 

906
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,960
not even dry. 
Oh, here's the thing. 

907
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:40,720
Kostyuk will shake hands with 
Kazukina because Kazukina Daria 

908
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:45,040
Dasha has publicly said how bad 
the war is and has really 

909
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,880
renounced it and she's 
Australian now and so she. 

910
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,160
Got the hell out of Dodge. 
Yeah, she's like, no. 

911
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,160
On the ladies side also, though,
not to go too deep in this, but 

912
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,200
we also had some old Broads kind
of making some news. 

913
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,880
We had Pliskova coming back. 
Carolina Pliskova had a couple 

914
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,840
of great wins. 
I think she's been out with some

915
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,920
injuries. 
I love a Czech. 

916
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,360
Gurley, as I've said many times 
in the show, I love her game. 

917
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,680
Big Babe tennis. 
I know we can't say Big Babe 

918
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,040
tennis anymore. 
Nathan, say it. 

919
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,240
Big babe tennis and I'm not 
going to stop. 

920
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,600
Just go ahead and go ahead and 
cancel me now. 

921
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,600
Yeah. 
That's all it takes. 

922
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,680
That's all it takes. 
But another woman of a certain 

923
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,160
age, not just me, Venus 
Williams, we had yet another 

924
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,200
wild card, yet another loss. 
I think this is 9 losses in a 

925
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,120
row maybe or or 10 breaking a 
record, I think of the most 

926
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:42,080
losses in a row for any former 
#1 And I don't think she's going

927
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,800
to Rome because she's the Co 
host of the Met Gala tomorrow 

928
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,960
night in New York. 
But she did say like, oh, I'd 

929
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,760
love to play Rome because my 
husband is Italian and I'd love 

930
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,280
to play Roland Garros. 
And it's like Nate Nathaniel. 

931
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,280
When is enough enough for these 
wild cards keep going? 

932
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,040
Never, you know, the Duchess 
decides when it's time. 

933
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,400
And yes, I have decided that 
she's a Duchess because look, 

934
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,680
she's Venus Williams. 
And I will say this, definitely,

935
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,600
definitely stay in double s 
because she's still making 

936
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,400
having some results in double s.
If she's going to stay, girl, 

937
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,240
you got to get a little bit more
aggressive. 

938
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,800
You're trying to rally with 
people. 

939
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:26,280
And I'm like, honey, I, I, it 
hurts me to watch you rally. 

940
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,320
Kills me. 
Can you follow that big serving 

941
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,000
of the net? 
Can you serve plus one? 

942
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,600
You know, just for your life, 
like it depends on it? 

943
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,000
You got to do something. 
Exactly. 

944
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,680
I loved last summer, she got 
like a great win, I think over 

945
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,720
Peyton Stearns in Cincinnati or 
DC or something like that. 

946
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:46,640
And her form was good. 
She seemed locked in. 

947
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,360
Now it's just like every match 
is the same where it's just like

948
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,640
a let down. 
It feels bad. 

949
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,480
And I'm just like, like, yes, 
the Duchess can stay as long as 

950
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,520
the Duchess wants, but is it 
tarnishing the Duchess's Sheen 

951
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,240
to be on the longest losing 
streak of any former #1? 

952
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:11,400
She's she's Rita's Williams and 
she's got her title, she's got 

953
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,720
her records, medals, everything.
She's got it all and she always 

954
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:17,960
will. 
I think there's something 

955
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,440
inspiring about her being out 
there. 

956
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,120
The second-half of her career 
was kind of taken from her with 

957
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,320
the Sjogren's syndrome and I 
think she's like, look, I love 

958
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,320
the game and I'm going to be out
there trying until I can't do it

959
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,240
anymore. 
Good for her. 

960
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,840
Go for it, baby. 
Here's what I think she needs to

961
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,240
do. 
She needs to find a Bob Bryan 

962
00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:40,880
type to play mixed double S with
and get that one last double 

963
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,160
Slam. 
And maybe that's what she's 

964
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,080
doing with Serena on this 
comeback. 

965
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,280
Honestly, I'm still waiting for 
Serena to come back. 

966
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,600
My my odds have gone down to 
like a 40% chance that Serena's 

967
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,680
going to come back and play 
double s, but it's still alive. 

968
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,600
I think. 
I love that I am going to check 

969
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,760
in with you in six months when 
Venus has now lost 24 matches in

970
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,440
a row and he is still. 
Feels right. 

971
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,160
It's going to be like you're 
back in a fist pumping. 

972
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,760
You know, if she gets the career
slam, at a certain point it's 

973
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,120
going to become camp that she's 
staying and I'm here for that. 

974
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,760
I want. 
It give. 

975
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,760
Me, that Venus Williams camp. 
Give me the Duchess all in my 

976
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,920
face. 
OK, the 2042 French Open wild 

977
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,840
card goes to yeah, Venus 
Williams. 

978
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,760
Exactly. 
I mean, look, Novak says he 

979
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,320
wants to stay till 2028. 
You know, we got a little bit of

980
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,000
a senior tour on the regular 
tour. 

981
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,360
Like I love that. 
Well, this has come up on the 

982
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,680
pod before too. 
I would love a senior tour. 

983
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:41,320
I want to see Sabatini play 
against Graf right now. 

984
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,400
I would, I would go to that. 
I would travel to go see that 

985
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,440
match. 
So I think there's an appetite 

986
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,440
for Venus. 
I'm also going to just make a 

987
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,880
modest proposal that maybe 
should play a challenger or two,

988
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:59,040
get a match under her belt, get 
some some wins. 

989
00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:01,760
This, this wild card thing. 
I think that's what's bothering.

990
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,280
It's just like you're showing up
and losing and leaving. 

991
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,360
It's like that's not the 
strategy. 

992
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,640
So. 
I I think she could take a, a 

993
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,720
lesson from Stan Babrinka, who I
think has done it right. 

994
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,080
You know, he has not had the 
ego. 

995
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,120
He has gone to play these and 
look what he did in the 

996
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,800
Australian Open. 
What was the third or fourth 

997
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,720
round? 
Third round. 

998
00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:20,440
Yeah, incredible. 
Yeah, no, he's, he's playing 

999
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,640
qualifiers for Rome right now. 
Yeah. 

1000
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,600
Because he knows this is his 
last year and he's like. 

1001
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,040
Which I'm still very sad about 
I. 

1002
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,120
Know he's the one that he's the 
one I'm going to miss. 

1003
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:31,680
I'm going to miss him a lot. 
Yeah. 

1004
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,200
Yeah. 
Well, he and monkeys, but yeah. 

1005
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,560
Yeah. 
Lamar. 

1006
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,200
I didn't even know. 
I know that Keeney Shikori is 

1007
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,480
retiring and I didn't even know 
he was still on the tour. 

1008
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,040
Yeah. 
Well, so that actually leads us 

1009
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,080
to our our next little segment. 
So last episode the the theme 

1010
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,600
was rumors, because all these 
rumors are flying around about 

1011
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,320
Morgan Riddle breaking up with 
Taylor Fritz and that Kanish 

1012
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,720
Jacory had retired. 
So starting with K, it was 

1013
00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:00,840
actually weird. 
This post on Instagram was just 

1014
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,440
like, this challenger is going 
to be Kanish Jacory's last 

1015
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,760
event. 
And he actually had to come out 

1016
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,720
and be like, no, I'm not 
retiring. 

1017
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:10,240
But I think he more meant I'm 
not retiring at that tournament 

1018
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,360
because then he has since come 
out and said, yeah, this is his 

1019
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,560
last year. 
Another one who is just cut 

1020
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,480
short by injuries now. 
I think I read somewhere he was 

1021
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,200
the most successful Asian male 
player of all time, making a 

1022
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,000
final at the US Open. 
I think he lost to Chilich. 

1023
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:32,320
Really good game, but the bigger
rumor that was confirmed is that

1024
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:37,160
Morgan Riddle and Taylor Fritz 
have stopped seeing each other. 

1025
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:42,240
I love Morgan Riddle, I'm a wag 
hag and I'm going to be. 

1026
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:45,520
I'm so sad not to see her in a 
box. 

1027
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,320
Well, here's the thing, I I'm 
not the biggest Taylor Fritz 

1028
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:51,880
fan. 
I don't really have anything 

1029
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,840
against him. 
I just don't find him to be kind

1030
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,600
of boring. 
Sorry, sorry. 

1031
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,360
That's our little secret as I 
tell it to the whole world. 

1032
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,760
And I didn't pay attention to 
who he was dating in the 1st 

1033
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,280
place. 
So it's not doesn't it doesn't 

1034
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,320
stab me in the same place that 
it stabs you. 

1035
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,720
But I'm here for you if you need
anything. 

1036
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:13,040
Thank you. 
Well, so I proselytize the last 

1037
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,640
ball boy about the Church of 
Morgan Riddle and I'm going to 

1038
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,480
proselytize you. 
You need to look at her social 

1039
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,240
media. 
She is correct politically. 

1040
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:28,000
She is not afraid to like post 
about fuck ice Donald Trump. 

1041
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:34,400
She is very third wave feminist,
funny as hell and smart. 

1042
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:39,080
I think she was anchoring Taylor
away from anything more right 

1043
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,880
wing. 
I don't know what's gonna happen

1044
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,720
to him without her, which she 
was really freaking cool. 

1045
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,480
And then when I started looking 
at what she was wearing in these

1046
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:53,040
stands, like camp meets style 
meets Devil Wears Prada. 

1047
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,920
So. 
You and the year of our Lord 

1048
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,360
2026 are recommending I take in 
more social media, so I've noted

1049
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,440
that I'm going to go check her 
out. 

1050
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,200
And thank you for sucking me 
right back into the electronic 

1051
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,120
nipple. 
I appreciate. 

1052
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:08,240
Thank you. 
The electronic nipple. 

1053
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:12,720
I love that. 
Well, I mean, she'll probably be

1054
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:14,880
less problematic than some of 
the other things that you follow

1055
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,360
on that phone of yours. 
And right on the tail of that 

1056
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,440
hot gossip, them breaking up, 
there might be some new hot 

1057
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,440
couple alerts on tour. 
Just to cover real quick. 

1058
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,960
So we talked about Anastasia 
Patapova. 

1059
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:32,440
She is dating Talon Greekspore 
which is an interesting pairing 

1060
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,800
and honestly I loved him in her 
box. 

1061
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,440
I loved everything he was doing 
in her box. 

1062
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,160
What are you watching? 
I loved how he treated her in 

1063
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,680
her box because when she was in 
her, no, but for real in her 

1064
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:55,160
matches, he was in her box being
so supportive and smart as a 

1065
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,960
partner and like really being 
like, you've got to believe in 

1066
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,560
yourself. 
No, you've got to you can do 

1067
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,120
this. 
It was beautiful. 

1068
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,320
And now suddenly I'm jealous of 
Podipova. 

1069
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,040
I was like, I want that love. 
Oh, you know, it's like when, 

1070
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,720
when Maurice and Selena, I love 
the way that they support one 

1071
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:15,240
another. 
Like, that's so much fun. 

1072
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,640
You know how to help. 
So help give that support. 

1073
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,920
Alan, to me looks like a guy who
was trying to decide between 

1074
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,880
accounting and the priesthood. 
Like, I don't, I don't look at 

1075
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,560
his face and think tennis. 
Player No, a little Friar Tuck 

1076
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,720
in there. 
Yeah, he got some BAT people. 

1077
00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:34,680
He didn't make the BATP list 
this time, but he got some 

1078
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,440
points for the way he spoke to 
his girlfriend in a loving but 

1079
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:43,080
firm way that was just like, oh,
like this is this is what love 

1080
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,920
is. 
I was very happy for them. 

1081
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,240
That's what I'm missing. 
I know I need somebody to yell 

1082
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:50,960
at me. 
Firm but loving. 

1083
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,120
Nathan, after this call, will 
you just come over and yell at 

1084
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,000
me? 
At least 3045 minutes get it 

1085
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,800
together. 
Paul, well, the other hot couple

1086
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,480
is just rumors, I think at this 
point, but Arthur Fees and 

1087
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,600
Zeynep Somnes, the Turkish 
goddess, she is stunning. 

1088
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,520
Apparently he's been in her box 
watching her matches. 

1089
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:15,840
I'm worried that she's going to 
get a lot of backlash for 

1090
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,120
stealing our collective 
boyfriend 'cause he he belongs 

1091
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,680
to all of us. 
Speaking of all these hotties, 

1092
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,360
we do have a noob A teepee. 
It's over on our Instagram. 

1093
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,760
Like I said, at TBB Tennis, 
we've got a triumphant return to

1094
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,480
the top for Arthur Fees, His 
pool celebration alone in 

1095
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,560
Barcelona after winning that 
title, and just everything that 

1096
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,920
was shown all across social 
media just hoists him into the 

1097
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:47,960
annals of the Bay TV listing. 
So makes sense, enough sense. 

1098
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,800
But yeah, head on over to our 
Instagram and check that out. 

1099
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,920
Before we go off the ATP, the 
Bay TV, excuse me, I have one 

1100
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,480
thing to contribute. 
I was having to look up a couple

1101
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,880
of these because I like, I 
didn't know who Adolfo Danielle 

1102
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,040
Vannejo was, but he's very cute 
and you're right to put him on 

1103
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,680
the list. 
Camilo Hugo, I didn't know he 

1104
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:08,440
was. 
I looked him up. 

1105
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:13,680
And do I have a picture for you 
and potentially to share with 

1106
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:14,800
with everybody? 
It's PG. 

1107
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:20,480
It's PG13, but forget 
Syncherize, this picture is our 

1108
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,480
heated rivalry. 
And you will. 

1109
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,480
You will know what I'm talking 
about when I send it to you. 

1110
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,560
OK, OK folks. 
So I will be sharing that on the

1111
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:33,000
stories for sure because I'm not
going to gatekeep whatever this 

1112
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,440
heated rivalry is. 
So thank you. 

1113
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,080
I always like to have like a one
or two new people in the Bay TP 

1114
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,920
that, you know, are making some 
moves. 

1115
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,000
We have some wins, and they just
so happen to be really freaking 

1116
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,680
hot. 
So equal opportunity. 

1117
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,880
Yeah, yeah. 
No, we got to, we got to keep it

1118
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,200
fresh because otherwise I'm just
going to be saying, yes, Tommy 

1119
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,800
Paul's handsome every freaking 
week. 

1120
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,120
And you know what he is. 
But like, he didn't even make 

1121
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,560
the list this time because you 
know what? 

1122
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,400
When you lose, you don't get Bay
TP points. 

1123
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,120
No, sorry bro. 
That's why Jack Draper is out 

1124
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,320
there every week. 
Exactly, we are tough but firm 

1125
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,720
over here at the Bay TP and the 
Ball Boys. 

1126
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,080
I love that. 
OK, so real quick though, 

1127
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,440
Nathan, will you whip out your 
mica balls because we have Rome 

1128
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,000
coming up and I have some rapid 
fire questions of what's going 

1129
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,760
to happen. 
A is anyone going to stop Ionic 

1130
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,680
Sinner from winning? 
No, no, no. 

1131
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,880
I, I look, I just don't see it. 
I think, I think honestly, it's 

1132
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,920
it's, it's maybe Novak and I 
would have said maybe Sarah, but

1133
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,680
after today, there's no chance. 
No chance from Sarah. 

1134
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,760
Yeah, I agree. 
My only thought is, and I don't 

1135
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,000
think this will happen because 
it is his home tournament, but I

1136
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,320
think there is an argument for 
him to skip it in preparation 

1137
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,800
for Roland Garros and just to be
fully rested for two weeks. 

1138
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:57,840
I That sounds very wise. 
However, I also learned today 

1139
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,200
that if he wins Rome, he will 
have won all of the bastards. 

1140
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,120
Yeah, so. 
Doing that on home soil, it's 

1141
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,280
like it's he ain't going to 
skip. 

1142
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,320
No, no, I agree. 
I agree. 

1143
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,880
And yes, I agree. 
No one's going to stop him. 

1144
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,600
Which WTA Darling is going to 
get their groove back in Rome, 

1145
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:21,000
Jasmine Eaga or Jess Pagula? 
Jasmine, I mean, that's maybe a 

1146
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,400
sentimental pick more than 
anything, but I don't think Jess

1147
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,720
is much of A clay beast, I mean.
She won Charleston, but any all 

1148
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,200
the American clay tournaments 
are just for the Americans to 

1149
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,280
play. 
Honey, I won Charleston, you 

1150
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,640
know what I mean? 
It's not like, true. 

1151
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,280
It's not like there was, you 
know, ego there. 

1152
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,760
Yeah, yeah. 
So, OK, Jasmine, I feel that 

1153
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,720
sentimentality as well. 
I think she's actually the 

1154
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,960
defending champion. 
She, I think she won last year. 

1155
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,360
I think it's Ego's time to get 
her shit together. 

1156
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,520
She's going to peek and I think 
that she's going to, I think 

1157
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,480
she's going to go far. 
I don't know she's going to win 

1158
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,480
it, but she's going to go far. 
Girl, how? 

1159
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,960
How is Rafa Nadal teaching you 
how to hit top spin on clay and 

1160
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,440
you lose? 
And you lose right away. 

1161
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,040
Yeah, no. 
It's, I know the I know the 

1162
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,160
shrimp tacos had something to do
with it, but come on, get it 

1163
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:15,280
together. 
OK, which American man is going 

1164
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:21,560
to go the furthest at Rome? 
This is a little yeah, none, but

1165
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,680
like if we're talking about all 
in and out by the second or 

1166
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,920
third round and maybe somebody 
makes it to the 4th, I'm going 

1167
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:32,400
to say I'd like to see Korda 
because I think when he is 

1168
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:37,080
injury free, he's maybe the best
all around American male. 

1169
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,280
So I would love to see that. 
I'm going to go ahead and make 

1170
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,880
it make that call. 
That's your Yeah, Lock it in. 

1171
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,880
I think that's a great call he 
had. 

1172
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,920
He had that great win over 
Carlos. 

1173
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,040
Was it in Miami or Indian Wells?
I forget where? 

1174
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,520
Miami, I think, looked great. 
And then he's not really done 

1175
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,040
anything since. 
I think that's interesting. 

1176
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,600
I think it is going to be one of
the more sort of highly ranked 

1177
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:06,200
Americans and I don't know why. 
Oh, wait, no, I do know why. 

1178
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:10,840
I'm going to say Ben Shelton 
because he did just win that 

1179
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,120
tournament over Kaboli. 
I think that he is he is injury 

1180
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,480
free. 
He did not do very much in 

1181
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,200
Madrid. 
I think that I think that he's 

1182
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,680
got something in the tank for 
for Rome. 

1183
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,360
So OK, Corda or Shelton, we'll 
see folks. 

1184
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,720
Last one next Geners. 
Who is going to be the next Gen.

1185
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:34,320
darling of Rome blocks Hodar, 
Fonseca or Tien? 

1186
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,040
It's to me it's between Hodor or
Fonseca and so I'm going to 

1187
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:46,360
choose Hodor. 
Hodor, I am going to say the 

1188
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,800
same. 
No, just to be disagreeable, I'm

1189
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:53,360
going to say Fonseca. 
I think Fonseca is mad that he 

1190
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,960
is no longer the darling, the 
Princess, the Snow White, the 

1191
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,400
Cinderella. 
And he's like no, no, no, no, 

1192
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,440
no, no. 
He's he's kind of back. 

1193
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,920
I would like to see a little bit
of urgency from him. 

1194
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,160
I would like to see him to to be
like, OK, it's not enough for 

1195
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,840
everybody to be talking about 
me. 

1196
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,720
Like I want to back it up and 
that's what I want to see from 

1197
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,120
him. 
He's going to throw it back. 

1198
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,240
Yeah, yeah. 
All right, folks. 

1199
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,600
Well, that's our mahika balls 
and we will see what happens in 

1200
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,200
Rome because it's starting in 
two days. 

1201
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,960
And so we're all going to know 
real quick. 

1202
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,720
And that is our show. 
Nathan, you survived your round 

1203
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,160
two ball boys experience. 
How do you feel? 

1204
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:34,200
I feel violated. 
That is the best answer I could 

1205
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,320
have gotten, but OK. 
Will you come back for around 

1206
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:38,360
5:00? 
Absolutely. 

1207
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,120
Come on. 
I love being violated. 

1208
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:44,720
OK, OK, now we know his king, 
folks and everybody. 

1209
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,040
We're going to be back right 
after Rome with a recap and a 

1210
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:52,680
preview of Roland Garros as the 
clay season reaches its climax. 

1211
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,920
I for 1:00 AM titillated. 
And until then, our balls are 

1212
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,000
going back into the can. 
Thanks y'all, bye.

