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Have a listen. Make some norms with the ball
boys. Hey everybody, and welcome to
the latest episode of The Ball Boys.
We are the tennis podcast that puts the tops and top US.
I'm your host, Paul Monkle. I'm bringing you the insights,
outbursts, giggles and wiggles of the ATP and WTA tours.
It's been about 3 weeks since the last show.
Because no matter how much I make a fuss, the tours won't
adhere to the ball boys recording schedule of every
other week. And sure, we could have done a
show last week, but at the time the entire tour had food
poisoning. And I'm not going to spend a
whole show just scatting with you.
I'm not going to do it. I would never do that to you.
But Speaking of skid marks, we are deep in the clay season.
On both tours. We just wrapped up a
surprisingly entertaining Madrid.
It was a magical time at Kaha Mahika.
There were some dark mahika starting with those tacos, a few
mahika men making deep runs, a lot of mahika touch.
And of course, today we brought our Mahika balls to help make
some predictions about what's going to happen for the rest of
the clay season. Now since the last show, some
rumors we mentioned have turned into stone cold facts.
And we also had some terrible news for Bay TP mainstays who
are out for the rest of the clay season at least.
But slotting right in, we have Yonic Sinner just absolutely
dominating everyone. He just won a record-breaking
5th Masters 1000 in a row. And so this episode is called
Red for 5th. And yes, that's an homage to
Alaska from Season 5 of Drag Race because for me at least,
that is one culture peaked. So red for fifth.
We'll be covering all of that. Plus we have a brand spanking
noob ATP. Head on over to our Instagram to
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and listeners. I'm still casting for new sports
because there are ball boys in every sport.
Should we do football, basketball, hockey?
I mean, that puck is a ball, right?
And yes, maybe I'm biting off more balls and I can chew, but
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Now to get down and dirty with me on today's show.
I'm very, very, very excited for today's ball Boy.
He was actually my first guest in the new era of the ball boys.
And since then I've actually learned how to both edit and
balance sound. So we are in for a treat, folks.
He's the incredibly talented writer and performer.
He's the manager of OUT Loud Tennis here in Los Angeles.
It's Nathan Frizzell. Hi, Nathan.
Thanks for coming back on the pod.
Hi Paul, thank you for having me.
It is a joy, a treat and yes, a delight to be back.
Oh, stop it. You don't have to bottom me up.
You already, you got the gig, you know.
I'm already on, so I'll tell you exactly what I think of you.
Screw you, we played the Getting to Know You games when you first
came on, but that was like 2 years ago.
But I just want to sort of catch up with you a little bit.
First of all, did you and Adam LaRoche ever finished that match
at Poinsettia, or did they already start dragging the
mattresses back in? No, we have not.
We are officially the Isner and the hoot of Socal amateur
tennis. That match will probably never
end. Who's who is there, of course.
Oh no. Oh, raw.
Incorrect. Because I'm going to win.
Oh, I thought you meant because of the politics.
OK. Oh my God, oh God, don't even
swell. We also don't know a whole lot
about Mahout, so there might not be a an answer to take.
There, well, he's French, you know, Could mean anything but.
It really could, you know, is he from?
Is she from rural France? Because they can be crazy.
Well, I, I think my only reference point is Ratatouille.
That's all I know about that culture.
So, all right, so I just want to get to know you a little bit
more again. And you are the manager of Out
Loud Tennis here in LA, right? Is that your title?
Yes, league manager, it means absolutely nothing, but I did, I
did start the league. So I guess that's the title you
get when you when you start something.
You started the league. Oh yeah, yeah.
How long? How long has it been around?
Oh my God, Thirteen years. This.
This summer it'll be thirteen years.
Wow. Oh God, the team.
It's a it's a terrible team. It's a terrible team.
And you know, Will Hackner started out loud sports in
general in 2008, I think, And he'd been bugging me for five
years to start a tennis league. And I was like, girl, don't take
something I love and make me work on it.
And he eventually wore me down. And here we are 13 years later
and everyone's driving me crazy. But we're having fun, so I guess
that's what matters. Yeah, I mean, look, in 2026,
that's what matters. That's right.
OK, so I want you to describe out loud tennis just in five
words, and two of them have to be naughty.
Oh OK. Well messy and cute are the most
appropriate terms. I mean like the most fitting
germs, hands down. Hands down where?
That's for you to find out when you sign up and come play with
us. That's for poinsettia after
dark. That's right.
Oh my God, we don't speak of poinsettia after dark.
I guess so for the third non naughty word, I'd say it's very
social and in terms of naughtiness can't be too naughty
because I'm people are always trying to find a cancel, a
reason to cancel the league manager.
So double fault league managers fault, you know.
Why would you do that to them all?
If I had to do it to myself, everybody else has to supper
with me. That's fair, you know.
That's equanimity. I learned that in Buddhism
today. It should be a Buddhist.
I'm trying give me give me two more words to describe out loud.
Let's describe and say flirty. Flirty.
Our very first season it was double S the 2 two of the
finalists that were playing against each other started
dating and are now married with children.
So the love connections do happen.
Now did they start dating like mid match?
Oh my God, the first set, if I'm not mistaken, I think one of
them hit another one with a volley and I think that was
love. That was love.
That's very sipsy pass coded this week in double S.
He had to hit. He just loves to hit anyone at
the net. There's so many reasons that
City Pass needs help, and that's one of them, yeah.
Never mind his tweets, but yes, yeah, I think.
For the final, I don't think it's a word.
Let me use a term if I may, and you'll appreciate this.
The library is always open because we're friendly, but
reading is still fundamental. Yeah, no, you guys had a great
social hour at High Tops last weekend that you were nice
enough to invite me to, and it was a nice mix of some
camaraderie and fellowship and just a little bit of sass.
No one kissed me though, so I don't know if I'm going to come
up. You know, some of those Sunday
fun days that we have will go 3-4 hours and it's by hours
three that people have had enough cocktails.
Where? Oh my God, those two are making
out in the corner or those two snuck off really early.
Where did they go? We know that that whole song and
dance, and I'm going to not take that as you saying people need
to be drunk to make out with a ball boy, the host of all boys.
No, no, no, no. Probably with me, but not with
you, no. Let's all make out to listeners.
If you're sitting next to someone, kiss them.
So if if people want to join out loud tennis, what would they do?
Head on over to outloudsports.com and you'll see
that Out Loud Sports is in a bunch of different cities across
the United States and in Los Angeles we have a bunch of
different leagues. Drop down and you'll find tennis
and that's where you sign up. All right, awesome.
Well, folks, if you're looking for a fun, flirty, messy, sassy
libraries open League, head on over.
So let's get into some of the tennis.
And I want to talk just about like your state of mind for
tennis right now for 2026. Do you have a highlight of the
tours, men's or women's? Something that you've been like,
oh, that was great. Yeah, I think it's it's been a
fun year so far. I I've my highlight would be
Carlos completing the career slam.
He's so great for tennis. As the last five Masters has
reminded us, we need Carlos. We love Carlos.
Yeah. Oh my God, today was such a
snooze pass. We're getting into that.
But oh, I miss Carlos more and more every every match and just
yeah, his. Presence, he's just such a joy,
you know, it's the tennis is fantastic.
He adds drama to the Syncraz rivalry but he's just so happy.
It's just nice to see that. Yeah, no, he's he's he's a great
guy. I mean, even watching him
applaud for his brother in the stands in Madrid.
I tried to make a meme, but I'm terrible at social media, but
I'm trying. But like, you remember that
Nicole Kidman clapping like she wouldn't touch her hands
together because of all of her jewelry.
He was clapping the same clap. It was it was cute.
And yeah, he's he's such a great guy.
I hope this is not like a Dominic Team Del Potro wrist
moment starting. But I'm not going to speak that
into the universe, even though I actually just did.
Yeah, no, I didn't even. I forgot that that with the
wrist was what did those two end.
Oh my. Oh, please, no.
I got to do something. No, no, no, no, we're doing some
some dark magic, some dark mahika today.
OK, so moving on though, who is your ATP crush right now?
I mean, does it have to be just one?
Well, I mean, if you want a greedy, but actually, yes, it's
got to be 1. Ouch.
OK, well, if I have to take one, and this might shock you because
he's he's still out there and yet we haven't seen him in a
while. My number one in my heart, Borna
Chorich. I knew you were going to say
that as soon as you said he wasn't out there, but he's still
out there. I know, I know, Borna.
The, the love connection that he and I have had.
And I'm, I listen. I know I sound a little like
Kathy Bates of Misery right now, but we made eye contact two
years in a row at Indian Wells in the practice courts.
And I'm telling you, I don't think that was coincidental.
Eye contact two years in a row. He's when he is at that
tournament, he is my priority to go see him.
I agree. Look, locking eyes once, that's
an accident. But we all speak, gay speak.
When you lock Isaac for a second time, we know what's the dance.
The dance has begun. And the next time you see him,
that'll be the third time, which makes a trend, which makes it
time for you to. To jump over the fence and slip
a ring on his finger. Slip a ring somewhere.
Yes, Yes. I've got your permission.
Yeah, my blessing the ball boys, yes, 'cause I, I agree with him,
but he is not someone that I'm currently in negotiations with
for a end cup of marriage. So we're we're good, you and I,
we're good. Yeah, no, just as heated though.
Who is your WTA crush right now? Well, my my newest is it going
to be my lobs VMS, so I'll save that.
But I'm I'm a big Jasmine Paolini.
Fan Oh give me like a quick reason why.
First of all, she's feisty and I love her game and she's fun to
watch. I made eye contact.
It's an eye contacted with me, I guess, with her during the
Wimbledon final because I was sitting.
I mentioned this to you before, but for the listeners, I got
lucky with the Wimbledon draw two years ago and I got to sit
on the 1st row like I could reach over and touch the grass.
And it was Paulini and Krjikova, I think.
And Paulini's team was sitting right above me.
So she would always look over in our direction.
And at one point she had hit. She won this really great point.
And I kind of gave her the fist and said Forza, because, you
know, I'm Italian, I guess. And she looked right at me and,
you know, I don't think she was fist pumping for me, but she did
give a fist pump, so. Wow.
Wait, was Sarah Ronnie right behind you then too?
She must have been. She was, she was.
Yeah. She's a tiny little thing.
She's so yitty bit. Oh, they're both little.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I was just going to say
like, if you're having pasta, like watch out for Sarah, Ronnie
sprinkling something on your pasta sauce 'cause that's why I
took her out. All right, good calls.
Last question, then, before we get to our Lopsians, because we
are in a three-way, a throuple of masters, one thousands, I
just want you to pick Monte Carlo, Madrid or Rome.
You want me to rank them or just pick one?
Pick one, you greedy bastard. Because I have opinions on all
of them. I do love Rome, but it's Monte
Carlo for me. Correct.
You, you, you win. Ding, Ding, Ding.
Yeah. You know, Madrid and the Kaha
Magica, it's got its own charm. But I will never forgive them
for the blue clay. But I also miss it, I know.
I feel the same way about it now where it's like, I don't know if
it's Stockholm syndrome or fever dream or what, but like, it was
so weird. I like that they make choices.
But yeah, so. So are you saying your ranking
is Monte Carlo, Rome, Madrid? Yes.
OK fair I I agree. I love Rome because of the
Colosseum and those statues and just like I love everything but
Italy. Like if I could move to a
country, which I guess we all can, we can, you know, we have
free will, but like Italy is just but we.
Might have to move to We might have to move to a new country
soon. Hey, you know, if they would
want to get rid of all of the homosexuals, I'll be the first
in line at Spirit Airlines and. Oh no.
Too soon, yeah. Let them have a moment, Paul.
Well, great catching up with you.
And that's our show. Just kidding.
We're now going to get into some of the tennis and we're going to
start with our lobs beans. As always, the lobs bean is the
thing that just made us gayer for tennis since the last show.
And I've got a few lobs beans. You already said you have at
least one. I'll jump in first.
I've got to start with the model ball boys and ball girls, the
Madrid Open, so on center court only.
So if you are a ball boy or a ball girl, not on center court,
I'm sorry, you are not going to be America's Next Top Model or
even Madrid's next Top ball boy. But on center court it is just
like it's so campy, it's ridiculous.
It's like these 6 foot statuesque giraffes scrambling
around the court. But they do a great job.
They do a really good job and I just love the campiness of it.
But I do have one fear that I feel like they're kind of
phoning it in a little bit this year because the I think the
outfits might even have been the same outfits as they were last
year. And like, look, this is such a
moment. Why not have a runway?
Why not have the latest Wilson kits?
Why not have something avant-garde?
And on the weekend of the release of Devil Wears Prada 2,
this is the fashion you're going to bring.
So I know I just had a ton, but what do you think of models the?
Crime of it all. You're absolutely right.
Like it's very have you been to Spain?
I've been to Barcelona. Yes, at which is one of my
favorite cities on the planet. I also did really love Madrid.
It's there's something very Spanish about the weird choices.
It's like they've got this fun like playfulness about their
whole country, but they're also they're just not afraid to take
big swings. So sure why the hell out have
models on the court. I don't care.
Yeah, and like, I might get cancelled for this, but I like
attractive people. I think it's fun to have like
hot bald people and like both boys and girls like I, I think
it's it's great. When it was just the women, I
was like, that's a little weird. But now that it's men and women
as the models, great. It's like Goldie Hawn said in in
First Wives Club, Youth and beauty man, you know, and that's
it, that's all she said. But it, it, it applies here.
That's the whole lie. So wait, what's what is one of
your Loftians? Haley Baptiste.
Oh. That's Cinderella run was was so
much fun. Like what she did to Belinda
Benchich was very shocking. And then and then Samuel Anka.
Yeah. Oh yeah, I am a big Baptiste
fan. What a jock.
And I almost put her down as a lesbian too, specifically for
how she smashed that racket against Benchich like a fucking
boss. Oh, I got a tingle.
If you're going to smash a racket, smash it full out, You
know what I mean? Like, don't.
Don't just do it once, because then you look like you're not
committed to it. Well, and also it's kind of
embarrassing, like if you try to smash a racket, it only gets
like slightly dented, like, no time of death right now.
Like that racket is done. Yeah, right, 100%.
She's got some biciness to her and you know, I, I, I like some
attitude. I like some swag.
You know, Oh yeah, she's bringing a really interesting
element to the game. But yeah, exactly.
Some swag, a different game style, almost a little bit of
retro game style, not chip and charge, but like more sort of
moving forward and yeah, love. Those are the players in general
right now that I am loving because you know, Carlos and
Yannick, they have got the baseline locked down.
So I want to see a player, you know, if you're, if you're going
to hit the the line, the baseline with your forehand, I
want you to follow that into the net.
Maybe they don't get it back, but at least you're giving us
something different, you know? Yeah, that that's such a good
point. I mean, honestly, I don't think
that anyone's going to out hit Carlos or Yannick now.
Like you better come up with a new strategy and if that's like
Casper Roots 30 Rally Moon ball, then you know that's what it's
going to be. But you got to do something so I
also I. My only issue with Haley
Baptiste though is that necklace.
A little much, but you know, we've seen weird fashion
choices, especially this year. I was not a Naomi Osaka dress
fan, but you know what? A necklace in in retrospect, is
not such a bad thing. Oh yeah, I know the the
existence of a necklace, yes, that one in particular.
But you know, that's the beauty of the world.
Not everyone has to have the same opinions on neck jewelry.
So gay men. So my last lob to be in was
inspired by yesterday's women's final.
But also thinking back to the Hamburg final for women is just
the WTA championship celebrations.
I'm obsessed because we have such a spectrum of absurdity
from Rabacana's Hamburg win, where it didn't even look like
she realized she won a tournament, much less a match.
It was like, maybe she maybe she'd won a set, but she wins
the final and just kept her casual walk up and she's like,
all right, thanks, goodbye. And then balanced with Marta
Kostiak's backflip straight out of Bring It On.
You know, she was Eliza Dushku, like double backflip, double
handspring, whatever. After winning her inaugural 1000
title. I just I loved both of those
celebrations. Nathan, if you had to pick one
of the celebrations, which are you going to pick?
I'm 1000% a backhand spring fan. That's the sort of thing,
though, that if she starts winning lots of titles and she
does it after everyone, it's going to be tired very quickly.
But I love the the genuine, the strangeness of it.
And we need some good celebrations because Rebecca and
Sinner, I'm sorry, boring with their celebrations?
No, thank you. But Rebecca is is so boring that
it kind of comes to the other side of like, Oh my God, the
spectacle of how like psychotic it is.
I I. Appreciate it.
I think the moment if she if she were to complete the slam, the
career slam and celebrates it with a fist pump, then it
becomes camp and now I'm on board.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. I agree also with the backflip.
It was like when or Mira Andreva, who is destined to not
win a tournament right now. Maybe last year when she won a
few tournaments in a row and each time she thanked herself in
her winter speech, the first time cute 'cause it was like, Oh
my God, you're hilarious. And then she did it again and it
was like, oh wait, no, this is yeah, not as good.
It is as the kids would say. Cringe.
Yes, that is what it was, Mira.
Can I also say something else about celebrations and throw on
the subject? No can we make?
Can we make? Oh no.
OK Bo, have a good day. What?
Am I going to say no? Yes, please.
Please. Can we can we make a rule or can
we write a letter to somebody about people going to hug their
team after winning any title? But can we stop?
Like, can you just get the trophy and get the hell out of
there? Pat Josh started the stupidest
tradition and not everybody has to do it after every title that
they win. I completely agree.
I think we need some sort of new behavior, like maybe the team
comes down and rushes you, you know, you win and everyone comes
onto the court and celebrates going up.
I agree. Cause like half the time they
don't know how to get up there. The other half it's like a weird
hug or a bad high 5 and it's like, it's just, yeah, I, I
agree. Yeah, down with fun fun.
Fun police, we've had enough. Yeah, we've had enough of that.
Now it is time for twit and that is this week in tennis.
As always, there is so much tennis going on all over the
place. We can't possibly cover every
match. So listeners, if you were here
for every score, you're going to be more disappointed than I was
when I found out the shrimp Taco station was shut down before I
could even fill my plate up. Which by the way, I mean, I'm
sure you heard all about that, right?
The that was, that's what that was the shrimp tacos that that
did it. There's so much controversy
around tournament food these days, like maybe they're going
to stop serving food at some point.
Well, I'm just wondering, like, who is sending it over there?
Like, is it American GMO or Campbell's soup or something
like like shrimp in Madrid should be fantastic, you know?
I think it's Novak. I think Novak is trying to
whittle everybody down so he has a chance to win another title, I
mean. We're not going to do many
predictions about French Open right now, but he is my dark
horse. I'm just saying it right now.
He's kind of the only hope, really.
You can see this. Vera is not going to do it.
This Vera is not going to do it. No, no, no, no.
But OK, well, let's talk about Madrid, though first.
So the biggest tournament since the last show was Madrid just
wrapped up today in the Kaha Kaha Mahika.
And look, you can call me a matador because I'm generally
not very bullish on this tournament, but I did kind of
love this year because we had a lot of new faces, a lot of new
narratives. The next Gen. from last year was
just like, oh, this is our time. A lot of unpredictability the
the WTA, like no top seeds made it to the semis.
Like I enjoy a chaotic moment when we've been in kind of like
a a bit of a boring phase overall for the tours where it's
like, yeah, we've got the top, the top 2 on the men and the top
4 on the women are kind of like all that have been doing much.
So I was into this one overall. Nathaniel, can I call you
Nathaniel? Sure, my sister does and it's
not on my birth certificate, but you go for it.
Oh, oh, is it not your? What's your legal name?
Beth? It's.
Beth Beth Nathan. Beth Nathan.
It's actually Thomas Nathan Brazell.
Really. Oh, yeah.
See. Whenever someone tells me that
they're actually going by their middle name, something is just
always very unsettling. Why do you not go by your first
name? It's because I have secrets that
you didn't know that. It's because I'm a junior and my
dad is Tommy. And he is, I was born in a small
town and he was very pop is very popular.
So it was sort of like, to kind of avoid the confusion, I've
just always gone by some variation of my middle name.
Just the most exciting story on the planet.
Well, I'm, I still think it's because you're a spy, but, you
know, sure, your dad's popular. OK, we'll go with that.
If I am, I wouldn't tell you. Well anyway, Nathan, how many
balls would you give the Madrid Open overall?
I'm going to go ahead and give it three out of five.
I am not a fan of this 12 day master schedule.
I feel like I've been watching this tournament since like Obama
was in office. It's just so long.
My God. Also, you brought up Obama and
I'm just going to be sad for a minute, but OK, yeah, keep
going. Sorry to bring it down, but also
is to borrow from the endlessly annoying Brad Gilbert.
I got to give the tournament a red card where they're seating
around the court, like the seats near the court.
The most of the tournament, it looked like they were playing to
an empty stadium because those must be super expensive and
nobody was sitting in them. And so only when they would pull
back would you be like, Oh yeah, they're actually people at this
match. Every freaking tournament that
does this and it happens so often, and I don't know if it's
because it's corporate sponsors or yeah, people buy tickets on
go or that's just so expensive. But yeah, I agree.
I I hate seeing a partially empty stadium.
It's like, where's the atmosphere, you know?
I mean, yeah, I think you brought this up before on the
podcast. It is the insitification of
America. It's thanks private equity.
You know, I could go on a ramp and I vote this is about tennis.
No private equity is about to ruin tennis.
Well, it's between that and Saudi Arabia, but well, you
know, oh that girl. But OK, so getting into some of
the action. So we just had the men's final
and we had a Sinner 5 peat demolition Derby.
He wins his fifth Masters 1000 in a row.
This has never been done before and that's amazing.
It was the most boring final that I've seen.
I guess Zverev was maybe a little injured, I don't know,
but he wins 6162. Never in doubt from the first
game. I don't know, I was bored.
Yeah, it was the the definition of mechanical.
We we like I said earlier, we realize how much we need Carlos
because sooner. I mean, look, I have all the
respect in the world for him. He's he's a machine, but I also
don't love the machine of it all.
Like Carlos, just like, you know, just like Roger, just like
Rafa. They, they they felt like arts.
They felt like they were they were creating something magical.
Novak to me and Sinner to me are the same breed of like Yvonne
Lendl robots on the court. And I just don't and I just
don't care. I I don't that doesn't impress.
I mean, that doesn't inspire me as a fan.
Yeah, I thought you're going to start singing Shania Twain.
That don't impress me much. Don't.
Just like her. Thank you.
I was also thinking about have you seen that meme of Melania
and the robots? The robots are coming.
The robots are here. And that is yeah, I agree.
I I enjoy Yonics in her in every interview.
I think he's really charming and nice on the court.
He's not that artistic. It's it's interesting though,
because commentators, the entire Madrid Open, we're talking about
how he was almost using this tournament as practice to bring
in some of that artistry and like do some drop shots and do
some things that are a little less expected.
But it felt kind of like watching a robot learn how to
paint or like AI learn how to like write a song.
The thing about Carlos and Rafa and Rogers, they are natural
born artists and creatures. Yannick is a killer who is
learning how to like paint a beautiful picture that will end
up being beautiful but it doesn't feel as natural.
And I don't mean to crap on him because I'm also like so
impressed with what he's doing. No one.
I mean, I was surprised that no one had done this before, but no
one's ever won 5 masters in a row.
You know it, that's crazy to me too.
I I guess when you think about it like the big three, you know,
they always had each other to deal with and Thinner has kind
of done this during a stretch where Carlos is not really a
factor. So, you know, will we see this
again from him? Who knows?
I don't know, maybe we'll see a six next week.
Yeah, I don't want us to pull out our mahika balls just yet,
but I, I, I think the only way he loses, actually, I'm not
going to. Say it good.
Listeners, our balls are staying in the can until the end of the
show and then it's balls out. But yeah, so he beats Zverev.
I don't love talking about Zverev too much.
Zverev took out an exciting next gener though.
Alexander Blocks. Unfortunately, Zverev knocked
his blocks off in the sammies. Pretty straightforward.
And then we had Sinner and Fees. A sexy match up in theory, but
not a great match. I love Arthur Fees entire
comeback story. He is asserting himself.
He's definitely not at his peak yet, but I mean, he's playing
top ten, top five tennis right now.
But what I don't like is his losses are not great.
So his loss here, terrible. His loss in Miami to Leska,
terrible. His loss, I think it was in Doha
to Carlos in like a 20 minute final.
He goes all out, he empties the tank, and he has nothing left
for the next round. I am curious to see what his
ceiling is because is he on this like hot streak or is he
genuinely going to reach and stay at the top of the game?
You know, we see so many of these players kind of come and
they make a lot of noise and then they fade away.
You know, we'll see. I mean, fees seems to be the
real deal and but I think he's also had some good draws.
But he's for many reasons, very exciting to watch.
He knows what he's doing in those ABS.
I mean, that's what a tennis player should look like.
I mean, come on. You know, you're not wrong.
I I'm with you there. All right, glad we're not
fighting. Finally.
I want to talk about the Next Geners, though, real quick, the
Kris Geners and the Next Geners. They made some big splashes in
this tournament. So I got to start with Rafael
Rafa. There's a new Rafa Rafa Hodar
Hodor. Hold the door.
Hold. Your door.
Oh very dare you. He Spanish 19 year old.
He won Marrakech and he made a run all the way to the quarters.
There were a few noteworthy things about him in this
tournament. First was just how he absolute
dismantled Diminhauer. It was like 6163.
It was a lion flicking a flea off of its back.
I was shocked. I mean, I we don't spend too
much time on it, but what the heck is going on with Dimanauer?
Like he's just fallen off. Like he's he's in the top 10.
Yeah, it's he's giving David Ferrer.
David Ferrer, excuse me, who I always enjoyed, but you know
what, like against these big players, against these these all
time greats, you're, you just don't have anything kind of
really but your wheels. And that's not enough against
these big guys, you know? Yeah, Speaking of ceilings, he
reached his ceiling and it's great what he's done.
But yeah, yeah. David Ferrer.
I mean, I so you know how the Nothing Major podcast does all
these hottie brackets, which is stealing our bag and we should
be doing it. I want to do a tournament
director hottie bracket and David Ferrer in Barcelona
because he's looking better than ever.
So good for you. David Ferrer.
Come on, the pod. If you put Davi Ferreira and
Feliciano Lopez together, it's like I'm watching this video.
Yeah, even if even if it's in front of Garbina Mugarutha's
salad because she's now the Co director of Madrid.
But yes. She's beautiful too.
She she makes me have. Thoughts.
Yeah, yeah. Hodar though.
Just going back to him real quick.
The match of the tournament for me was Hodar versus Fonseca,
Next Gen. on Next Gen., 19 year olds and the crowd, it was the
first time I'd ever seen the very strong Brazilian crowd,
which follows Fonseca everywhere matched by another crowd and
which was the home turf of Hodar in Spain.
The crowd was great. It was electric.
There were no empty seats on that stadium and it was a
pretty, I mean, the first two sets are great.
The last set was not great but I'm excited about oh I can see
Hodar Hodor coming and like I could see him tripping up
Sinner. I think he gave Sinner the
toughest test of the tournament. I think, you know, that first
step was a eye breaker, if I'm not mistaken, against Sinner and
I, I love his aggression like I love the clocks of Oz Big Boy
tennis. He does follow into the net, you
know, like I'm like, this is this, this is what we want to
see, you know? Yes, yeah.
And then you know, he had his his next Gen. brother Alexander
blocks all the way to the semis like we talked about.
I do love his last name because it sounds like a cryptocurrency
fucked APE firm. It sounds like block.
X like, OK, but you know, I, I've been wondering in recent
years, is the Next Gen. tournament even not necessary
anymore? Because I kind of felt like they
brought it in because the big three made it impossible for
guys coming up to get any attention.
But looking at what has happened and like even like other ones
like Landa Luce and Lerner Tien, who won Next Gen. last year,
like I love this class of the Next Geners.
I have a confession to make. I haven't watched a single
minute of the next Gen. finals. It is always felt a little
gimmicky to me. But if you say that I should
watch, I will watch. And I think if we're going to
have a men's next Gen. we should have a women's.
Why the hell not? It's 2026, for God's sake.
Right. Part of me wondered like, oh,
because often on the WTA they peak earlier in their career.
Like, you know, you can be an 18 year old in the top five, but
still, I would love to see, you know, these up and comers play.
So here's the thing about next Gen. the finals.
It is kind of nice because it's totally different format.
It's games to four. I think it's no ad scoring.
So the matches are like 40 minutes long.
It's really fast. So it's like a taste of tennis,
which sometimes I'm like, well, you don't really see like how
good they're going to get. But it's more that these Next
Gen. tournaments have just they they've been really good at
identifying who's going to who's going to be that.
I mean, the first time I ever saw Yannick Sinner was at the
Next Gen. finals. He was given a wild card in it
because Italy was hosting it. And I think he won that year.
And it was like, and it was the first time I heard that Sinner
boom on his forehead. And I was like, what was that?
But it's great that we have all that good news because we've got
some rough news. So like we've said, Alcarez is
out with a wrist injury. You know, with great wrist comes
great reward. Is that what they say?
Yeah, sure, sure. Yeah.
It was great to see him win the Laureus Award along with
Sabalenka. I don't know if I really care
that much about the Laureus Awards.
Do you care about the Laureus Awards?
Not really. No, I like that they were all in
tuxedos. Like he and Yanuk look great
that night and the the guy who looked the best that night.
And y'all. This might be the photo I put on
for the BATP list, but Lorenzo Mousetti, he he can wear a
tuxedo. Makes everyone look like they
were. They're in trash bags.
Trash. I mean, when, when they do the,
the year and finals and they always have the, the guys
dressed up in like suits, whatever for like the photo
shoots. A suit makes a tennis player
look amazing. Even the ones that I'm not
attracted to, like Sasha, like I'll be like, oh, he, he, he
looks good in a suit, you know, go figure.
Right. Yeah.
I don't know if my disdain for him can be overcome by a suit,
but Amen. But yes, they all, I mean, Alex
gave an hour when he was in a suit.
Rublev. Yes, they had a suit.
I love a suit. Should we bring back suits?
You mean on the tennis court? No, you and I just like, I don't
know, in life. Yeah.
Next time we get lunch, we're gonna do it in suits.
Down, down. I've got a suit just for you.
Yes, and also some terrible news for you, Draper out with a knee
injury after last year's, like arm and leg and whatever injury,
he just can't catch a goddamn break.
So he's out until at least Wimbledon.
Nathan, are you OK 'cause I know that he is high on your list.
Yeah, no, I'm not going to be OK.
Just plain assembly. I'm not.
It's not fair. Why do we have to watch
Medvedev's ugly tentacle swings every single tournament?
But a specimen of a of a man like Jack Draper, who also
happens to play really good tennis.
He's just out. Yeah, You know, we get to watch
Rubelev, you know, miss every third shot and.
Yeah, but. But Jack Draper is out.
Not only does Rubelev miss every third shot, he then attacks his
leg with the ferocity of Haley Baptiste, breaking her racket.
Why is his leg not injured? He's like, and then he just
walks it up bleeding. But Jack Draper, our porcelain
doll from the UK, injured and. Poor Jack.
Poor poor Jack. Maybe I should find a way to
comfort, you know, him. I I I could come up with some
ideas. Yeah, like a care package or
like. I'll deliver it in person and
and you know, it'll just be between US and nobody has to
know. That's what I have in mind.
And that is when Nathan will change his name yet again.
Nathan Draper. Fine, do it.
Nathan Draper. Oh, that actually sounds really
good. Nathan Draper.
It's like a like a spy. There we go with the spy again.
Again, I know you're a terrible spy.
You're like everything is a tell.
She's giving all my secrets away.
Sounds like I'm a spy. Oh shit, I'm a spy.
I'm. Not going to say that.
But yeah, I mean, you know, the Bay TP is getting decimated
between Carlos and and Draper and and look, I I say this also
all the time on this freaking show, it's the equipment.
It's just like when the Olympics went to the full body suits and
everyone's breaking every world record left and right.
Like, look, the equipment is great, but it is causing so much
torque and pressure on shoulders and wrists and knees and
everything. Like we're just going to destroy
our players bodies before they can have their like, real
potential. And it's kind of sad, you know?
Maybe the solution is for a couple of tournaments a year we
have to go back to wood rockets. I would love that.
I'd like to see that, you know? Because, you know, then we're
going to have the tacticians, the skilled artists winning like
Jasmine Paulini will clean up. Oh my God.
And you know what? One of my favorite things to do,
and to all you tennis fans out there who I'm assuming is
everybody that's listening to this podcast, one of my favorite
things to do is to get on YouTube and watch like Stefan
Edberg and especially like Edberg Becker, Edberg Sampras.
It's just a style you just don't see anymore.
And it's it's foreign to me because I wasn't playing tennis
back then. I wasn't watching tennis back
then. And I was just like, man, that's
So what? That's so cool.
It's such a cool style of playing.
It really is a different sport. I totally agree and also fun
fact Stefan Edberg was one of my gay sexual awakenings.
I. Mean, I get it, those little
booty shorts that he was wearing.
Tiny white shorts and like, you know, one other highlight from
the men's eye. Or it's just like a funny moment
of Hugo Umber and Terence Atmain.
You know, it's kind of like Fashion Rd.
Kill from Sex and the City. But Atmain was so cramped up
during their deciding set tie break that he could not get off
the ground and it was time to change ends.
And so Hugo Umber just went to the other side and was standing
against the fence. It led to some of the funniest
photos and memes of just like one guy leaning against the
wall, the other guy writhing in pain.
And it was just like, what are we?
What are we doing to these players?
It it's almost begs the the question of is it time to change
the rules? Because I don't think it was
fair. It was definitely not fair to
admin, but it was also not fair to medical.
Personal bait TP Hugo Umber because as soon as he started
like screaming on the reference, got down out of the chair, Hugo
kind of had to go over there and do something like just give
support because he was going to get savaged if he didn't.
But it also took away his mojo. And like, he got, he got in his
head and he shit the bed. Pardon me?
Sure, maybe the solution is you lose that game if you get
cramps, but you're allowed to get treatment for them.
I don't know. Something's got to change.
Something and it's just like it happened so often and it's like
these guys are killing themselves and I can't think of
another sport that is so punitive towards its players
where it's like, no, sorry, suck it up.
Yeah, it's it's like the head of the HP is just sitting in his
office smoking a cigarette. No, no, you get a cramp.
You shouldn't finish the match. Well, on the ladies side, we
also had a ton of stories. We've covered some of them with
Hailey Baptiste, but of course we're going to start with the
final. Another geopolitical heavyweight
clash. I don't know what it is on the
WTA versus ATP. The ATP, it's like I'm from
Italy and I'm Spanish and I'm from Norway.
And on the women's side, it's I'm Bella Russian, I'm Russian,
I'm Ukrainian. These people who like really are
at war, like literally at war. So we we end up with a Russian
who has expressed prudent support versus the Ukrainian who
literally won't shake hands with a Russian and cries during her
own national anthem playing each other.
Mira Andreva is the Russian and Marta Kostiak is the Ukrainian.
So just like wild tension, it's like, what's going to happen?
Yeah, I, I forgot that they don't shake hands.
So I realized she didn't shake her hand.
I was like, what the hell is that about?
But I also felt I kind of felt bad from Mira Andreva, like she
was crying so hard at losing that I'm like, is she going to
get beaten when she goes back to Russia?
Like what is happening? I felt a little bad for her.
I mean Mira, she's on my list right now Like I don't love her.
I I find it entertaining like when she cussed out the entire
stadium in Indian Wells. Oh my God, just like fuck you,
fuck you, fuck you like it was like whoa, like crazy.
But it's also like girl. She needs to do some some inner
child work, I think and some re parenting maybe.
But it was sad like how much she cried.
But I also love that she wants it so much because I am tired of
these people losing finals and be like, good job.
I couldn't do anything. I'll see you next time.
And it's like no, no, no, no, no, no.
I want you to be like like. And and she was in the double S
finals, the women's double S finals too.
Yeah, she lost. She lost to Taylor Townsend and
Signakova. But good for her, you know, she
is she the female Medvedev, Because when she was in the
early round and she started screaming about it smells like
bullshit over here. I'm like, what?
What that What are you ranting about now?
I want to know exactly what she was talking about, but I also
don't want to know because, you know, why was she smelling
something? Or was she referring to her
gameplay? Like she was clearly upset about
something. Or was it the Taco station was
right next to the court? I don't know.
She was like smells like or is like everyone's crapping their
pants. And I do appreciate that Moxie.
I think it's just about she's a kid and she needs to grow up and
do some some some self reflection, like I said.
And also like, maybe stop supporting Putin and.
You know what, If you're going to do it, keep it to yourself.
We don't want to hear it. Yeah, yeah.
But Marta takes it into it was not a great match.
It was really windy, so that kind of got in the way.
So it was like a kind of sloppy 2 setter.
Shout out, though, to Marta's Wilson kit.
Wilson is the only tennis entity killing the the fashion game
right now. Nike is turning out things that
look like a four year old drew them in in arts and crafts, and
meanwhile Wilson is classy and it's stylish.
Spare me all your overpriced Lululemon and your soulless aloe
beige nonsense. Give me Wilson, give it to me.
Yeah, it, it flowed so well. The back was beautiful.
Like if the colors were right. And hot tip y'all, the outlets
at Morongo have an amazing Wilson store that I hit up every
time I come back from Palm Springs.
So because Wilson got the cheapest.
But anyway. But you know what?
But worth it because neither is Nike and and Nike again, it the
it's loud. It's it's not creative at all.
It's like they're like, oh shit, the Australian Open's coming up.
We got to line something, get Eddie from accounting to Draw
Something. You know, exactly.
Yeah, Like you mentioned, there was no handshake at the end.
There was also no handshake between Marta Kostik and put a
POVA in the semis, even though she's Austrian now.
I'm calling it TSA Kostchek. You can tell someone's
geopolitical affiliations based on whether or not Marta Kostik
will shake her hand. Like, it's like she's got tabs
on everybody. And someone who's actually
saying this, another chat that I'm in, he was like, I wonder if
she would shake Anna Samova's hand.
You know, like, I don't know. Yeah, it's a good question.
It's it's so funny to me that that I guess, I guess maybe
Kostick is still mad about World War 2.
Is that why she's not shaking in Austria, Adopova's hand?
She's Austrian? Or is it because she's born in
Russia? No, it's because she, yeah, she
just, she's mad about Sound of Music.
And Patapova is like about as Austrian as I am.
I was like, what's that song? Edel Vice?
I was like Edel Slice Slice because she's like not Austrian
at all. And they just had the Lintz
tournament and they're like, she's going further than any
Austrian woman is gone. It's like girl, her passports
not even dry. Oh, here's the thing.
Kostyuk will shake hands with Kazukina because Kazukina Daria
Dasha has publicly said how bad the war is and has really
renounced it and she's Australian now and so she.
Got the hell out of Dodge. Yeah, she's like, no.
On the ladies side also, though, not to go too deep in this, but
we also had some old Broads kind of making some news.
We had Pliskova coming back. Carolina Pliskova had a couple
of great wins. I think she's been out with some
injuries. I love a Czech.
Gurley, as I've said many times in the show, I love her game.
Big Babe tennis. I know we can't say Big Babe
tennis anymore. Nathan, say it.
Big babe tennis and I'm not going to stop.
Just go ahead and go ahead and cancel me now.
Yeah. That's all it takes.
But another woman of a certain
age, not just me, Venus Williams, we had yet another
wild card, yet another loss. I think this is 9 losses in a
row maybe or or 10 breaking a record, I think of the most
losses in a row for any former #1 And I don't think she's going
to Rome because she's the Co host of the Met Gala tomorrow
night in New York. But she did say like, oh, I'd
love to play Rome because my husband is Italian and I'd love
to play Roland Garros. And it's like Nate Nathaniel.
When is enough enough for these wild cards keep going?
Never, you know, the Duchess decides when it's time.
And yes, I have decided that she's a Duchess because look,
she's Venus Williams. And I will say this, definitely,
definitely stay in double s because she's still making
having some results in double s. If she's going to stay, girl,
you got to get a little bit more aggressive.
You're trying to rally with people.
And I'm like, honey, I, I, it hurts me to watch you rally.
Kills me. Can you follow that big serving
of the net? Can you serve plus one?
You know, just for your life, like it depends on it?
You got to do something. Exactly.
I loved last summer, she got like a great win, I think over
Peyton Stearns in Cincinnati or DC or something like that.
And her form was good. She seemed locked in.
Now it's just like every match is the same where it's just like
a let down. It feels bad.
And I'm just like, like, yes, the Duchess can stay as long as
the Duchess wants, but is it tarnishing the Duchess's Sheen
to be on the longest losing streak of any former #1?
She's she's Rita's Williams and she's got her title, she's got
her records, medals, everything. She's got it all and she always
will. I think there's something
inspiring about her being out there.
The second-half of her career was kind of taken from her with
the Sjogren's syndrome and I think she's like, look, I love
the game and I'm going to be out there trying until I can't do it
anymore. Good for her.
Go for it, baby. Here's what I think she needs to
do. She needs to find a Bob Bryan
type to play mixed double S with and get that one last double
Slam. And maybe that's what she's
doing with Serena on this comeback.
Honestly, I'm still waiting for Serena to come back.
My my odds have gone down to like a 40% chance that Serena's
going to come back and play double s, but it's still alive.
I think. I love that I am going to check
in with you in six months when Venus has now lost 24 matches in
a row and he is still. Feels right.
It's going to be like you're back in a fist pumping.
You know, if she gets the career slam, at a certain point it's
going to become camp that she's staying and I'm here for that.
I want. It give.
Me, that Venus Williams camp. Give me the Duchess all in my
face. OK, the 2042 French Open wild
card goes to yeah, Venus Williams.
Exactly. I mean, look, Novak says he
wants to stay till 2028. You know, we got a little bit of
a senior tour on the regular tour.
Like I love that. Well, this has come up on the
pod before too. I would love a senior tour.
I want to see Sabatini play against Graf right now.
I would, I would go to that. I would travel to go see that
match. So I think there's an appetite
for Venus. I'm also going to just make a
modest proposal that maybe should play a challenger or two,
get a match under her belt, get some some wins.
This, this wild card thing. I think that's what's bothering.
It's just like you're showing up and losing and leaving.
It's like that's not the strategy.
So. I I think she could take a, a
lesson from Stan Babrinka, who I think has done it right.
You know, he has not had the ego.
He has gone to play these and look what he did in the
Australian Open. What was the third or fourth
round? Third round.
Yeah, incredible. Yeah, no, he's, he's playing
qualifiers for Rome right now. Yeah.
Because he knows this is his last year and he's like.
Which I'm still very sad about I.
Know he's the one that he's the one I'm going to miss.
I'm going to miss him a lot. Yeah.
Well, he and monkeys, but yeah.
Yeah. Lamar.
I didn't even know. I know that Keeney Shikori is
retiring and I didn't even know he was still on the tour.
Yeah. Well, so that actually leads us
to our our next little segment. So last episode the the theme
was rumors, because all these rumors are flying around about
Morgan Riddle breaking up with Taylor Fritz and that Kanish
Jacory had retired. So starting with K, it was
actually weird. This post on Instagram was just
like, this challenger is going to be Kanish Jacory's last
event. And he actually had to come out
and be like, no, I'm not retiring.
But I think he more meant I'm not retiring at that tournament
because then he has since come out and said, yeah, this is his
last year. Another one who is just cut
short by injuries now. I think I read somewhere he was
the most successful Asian male player of all time, making a
final at the US Open. I think he lost to Chilich.
Really good game, but the bigger rumor that was confirmed is that
Morgan Riddle and Taylor Fritz have stopped seeing each other.
I love Morgan Riddle, I'm a wag hag and I'm going to be.
I'm so sad not to see her in a box.
Well, here's the thing, I I'm not the biggest Taylor Fritz
fan. I don't really have anything
against him. I just don't find him to be kind
of boring. Sorry, sorry.
That's our little secret as I tell it to the whole world.
And I didn't pay attention to who he was dating in the 1st
place. So it's not doesn't it doesn't
stab me in the same place that it stabs you.
But I'm here for you if you need anything.
Thank you. Well, so I proselytize the last
ball boy about the Church of Morgan Riddle and I'm going to
proselytize you. You need to look at her social
media. She is correct politically.
She is not afraid to like post about fuck ice Donald Trump.
She is very third wave feminist, funny as hell and smart.
I think she was anchoring Taylor away from anything more right
wing. I don't know what's gonna happen
to him without her, which she was really freaking cool.
And then when I started looking at what she was wearing in these
stands, like camp meets style meets Devil Wears Prada.
So. You and the year of our Lord
2026 are recommending I take in more social media, so I've noted
that I'm going to go check her out.
And thank you for sucking me right back into the electronic
nipple. I appreciate.
Thank you. The electronic nipple.
I love that. Well, I mean, she'll probably be
less problematic than some of the other things that you follow
on that phone of yours. And right on the tail of that
hot gossip, them breaking up, there might be some new hot
couple alerts on tour. Just to cover real quick.
So we talked about Anastasia Patapova.
She is dating Talon Greekspore which is an interesting pairing
and honestly I loved him in her box.
I loved everything he was doing in her box.
What are you watching? I loved how he treated her in
her box because when she was in her, no, but for real in her
matches, he was in her box being so supportive and smart as a
partner and like really being like, you've got to believe in
yourself. No, you've got to you can do
this. It was beautiful.
And now suddenly I'm jealous of Podipova.
I was like, I want that love. Oh, you know, it's like when,
when Maurice and Selena, I love the way that they support one
another. Like, that's so much fun.
You know how to help. So help give that support.
Alan, to me looks like a guy who was trying to decide between
accounting and the priesthood. Like, I don't, I don't look at
his face and think tennis. Player No, a little Friar Tuck
in there. Yeah, he got some BAT people.
He didn't make the BATP list this time, but he got some
points for the way he spoke to his girlfriend in a loving but
firm way that was just like, oh, like this is this is what love
is. I was very happy for them.
That's what I'm missing. I know I need somebody to yell
at me. Firm but loving.
Nathan, after this call, will you just come over and yell at
me? At least 3045 minutes get it
together. Paul, well, the other hot couple
is just rumors, I think at this point, but Arthur Fees and
Zeynep Somnes, the Turkish goddess, she is stunning.
Apparently he's been in her box watching her matches.
I'm worried that she's going to get a lot of backlash for
stealing our collective boyfriend 'cause he he belongs
to all of us. Speaking of all these hotties,
we do have a noob A teepee. It's over on our Instagram.
Like I said, at TBB Tennis, we've got a triumphant return to
the top for Arthur Fees, His pool celebration alone in
Barcelona after winning that title, and just everything that
was shown all across social media just hoists him into the
annals of the Bay TV listing. So makes sense, enough sense.
But yeah, head on over to our Instagram and check that out.
Before we go off the ATP, the Bay TV, excuse me, I have one
thing to contribute. I was having to look up a couple
of these because I like, I didn't know who Adolfo Danielle
Vannejo was, but he's very cute and you're right to put him on
the list. Camilo Hugo, I didn't know he
was. I looked him up.
And do I have a picture for you and potentially to share with
with everybody? It's PG.
It's PG13, but forget Syncherize, this picture is our
heated rivalry. And you will.
You will know what I'm talking about when I send it to you.
OK, OK folks. So I will be sharing that on the
stories for sure because I'm not going to gatekeep whatever this
heated rivalry is. So thank you.
I always like to have like a one or two new people in the Bay TP
that, you know, are making some moves.
We have some wins, and they just so happen to be really freaking
hot. So equal opportunity.
Yeah, yeah. No, we got to, we got to keep it
fresh because otherwise I'm just going to be saying, yes, Tommy
Paul's handsome every freaking week.
And you know what he is. But like, he didn't even make
the list this time because you know what?
When you lose, you don't get Bay TP points.
No, sorry bro. That's why Jack Draper is out
there every week. Exactly, we are tough but firm
over here at the Bay TP and the Ball Boys.
I love that. OK, so real quick though,
Nathan, will you whip out your mica balls because we have Rome
coming up and I have some rapid fire questions of what's going
to happen. A is anyone going to stop Ionic
Sinner from winning? No, no, no.
I, I look, I just don't see it. I think, I think honestly, it's
it's, it's maybe Novak and I would have said maybe Sarah, but
after today, there's no chance. No chance from Sarah.
Yeah, I agree. My only thought is, and I don't
think this will happen because it is his home tournament, but I
think there is an argument for him to skip it in preparation
for Roland Garros and just to be fully rested for two weeks.
I That sounds very wise. However, I also learned today
that if he wins Rome, he will have won all of the bastards.
Yeah, so. Doing that on home soil, it's
like it's he ain't going to skip.
No, no, I agree. I agree.
And yes, I agree. No one's going to stop him.
Which WTA Darling is going to get their groove back in Rome,
Jasmine Eaga or Jess Pagula? Jasmine, I mean, that's maybe a
sentimental pick more than anything, but I don't think Jess
is much of A clay beast, I mean. She won Charleston, but any all
the American clay tournaments are just for the Americans to
play. Honey, I won Charleston, you
know what I mean? It's not like, true.
It's not like there was, you know, ego there.
Yeah, yeah. So, OK, Jasmine, I feel that
sentimentality as well. I think she's actually the
defending champion. She, I think she won last year.
I think it's Ego's time to get her shit together.
She's going to peek and I think that she's going to, I think
she's going to go far. I don't know she's going to win
it, but she's going to go far. Girl, how?
How is Rafa Nadal teaching you how to hit top spin on clay and
you lose? And you lose right away.
Yeah, no. It's, I know the I know the
shrimp tacos had something to do with it, but come on, get it
together. OK, which American man is going
to go the furthest at Rome? This is a little yeah, none, but
like if we're talking about all in and out by the second or
third round and maybe somebody makes it to the 4th, I'm going
to say I'd like to see Korda because I think when he is
injury free, he's maybe the best all around American male.
So I would love to see that. I'm going to go ahead and make
it make that call. That's your Yeah, Lock it in.
I think that's a great call he had.
He had that great win over Carlos.
Was it in Miami or Indian Wells? I forget where?
Miami, I think, looked great. And then he's not really done
anything since. I think that's interesting.
I think it is going to be one of the more sort of highly ranked
Americans and I don't know why. Oh, wait, no, I do know why.
I'm going to say Ben Shelton because he did just win that
tournament over Kaboli. I think that he is he is injury
free. He did not do very much in
Madrid. I think that I think that he's
got something in the tank for for Rome.
So OK, Corda or Shelton, we'll see folks.
Last one next Geners. Who is going to be the next Gen.
darling of Rome blocks Hodar, Fonseca or Tien?
It's to me it's between Hodor or Fonseca and so I'm going to
choose Hodor. Hodor, I am going to say the
same. No, just to be disagreeable, I'm
going to say Fonseca. I think Fonseca is mad that he
is no longer the darling, the Princess, the Snow White, the
Cinderella. And he's like no, no, no, no,
no, no. He's he's kind of back.
I would like to see a little bit of urgency from him.
I would like to see him to to be like, OK, it's not enough for
everybody to be talking about me.
Like I want to back it up and that's what I want to see from
him. He's going to throw it back.
Yeah, yeah. All right, folks.
Well, that's our mahika balls and we will see what happens in
Rome because it's starting in two days.
And so we're all going to know real quick.
And that is our show. Nathan, you survived your round
two ball boys experience. How do you feel?
I feel violated. That is the best answer I could
have gotten, but OK. Will you come back for around
5:00? Absolutely.
Come on. I love being violated.
OK, OK, now we know his king, folks and everybody.
We're going to be back right after Rome with a recap and a
preview of Roland Garros as the clay season reaches its climax.
I for 1:00 AM titillated. And until then, our balls are
going back into the can. Thanks y'all, bye.