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Hey everybody, and welcome to 
the latest episode of Ball Boys.

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We are the tennis podcast you 
always needed and the podcast 

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you never knew you wanted. 
It's time for another riveting 

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romp around the tennis tours 
with me, Paul Monkhom. 

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And as always, I'm joined by my 
favorite ball boy, Billy Hanson.

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Hi, Billy. 
Paul, how are you? 

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So good to see you. 
So good to see you. 

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Even though your your background
is blurred. 

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So you're you're hiding 
something, but it's great to see

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you too. 
Well, I am in your condo, so I'm

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hiding something in in plain 
sight, let's be honest. 

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Usually people, they'll blur 
their background on a zoom when 

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they don't feel to see their 
home. 

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But you're literally in my home 
blurring the background like and

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it's that's suss as the kids 
say, that's that's high suss. 

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See, I just leave it all out 
there. 

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I'm never going to blur my 
background. 

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I've never once blurred my 
background. 

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Although recently I was on a 
call and I've got this little 

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hand statue that is of fingers 
crossed and it's on the Mantel 

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piece of my little fireplace 
that's in the zoom background. 

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That's sweet. 
A friend of mine, he was like, 

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yeah, I love your I love your. 
He's a straight guy. 

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He's like, yeah, that's cool 
statue dude. 

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It's like a flipping us all off 
and he's like, oh I was like, 

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wait, what? 
And he's like, yeah, it's a 

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middle finger. 
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So apparently I've had zoom 
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with some clients where it looks
like I have a statue saying you 

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know FU, which is not incorrect.
No. 

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And there, there's that one 
malleable statue. 

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It's like a like a. 
The thing you'd get in the 

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museum store, I have one myself 
and you can alter the fingers so

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you can make it a piece sign, 
you can make it a like hang 10 

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sign, You can make it an FU kind
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mind. 
So you just got to check what 

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the fingers are doing before you
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Wait, is, is that the thing that
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little needles that you can kind
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and take the mold of your face? 
Or do you know what I'm talking 

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about? 
I do know what you're talking 

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about, but I don't think that's 
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That's not what you're talking 
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I support. 
That in the back of your Zoom 

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meetings? 
No, I used to be obsessed. 

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I mean, this is the first time 
I've thought about those little 

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toys since my probably high 
school years, but I used to love

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making impressions of every part
of my body with that. 

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Yeah, I was going to ask like, 
which like your you said your 

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face, but I immediately thought 
like, OK, come on. 

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Come on, who am I kidding? 
And was there room is my 

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question. 
I feel like you needed an Excel 

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version of that toy in order to 
get all the imprints you wanted.

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I you know, who knows? 
Well, it's been a few weeks, so 

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we haven't had a show since 
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I'm still lizing myself from 
from Wimbledon and coming down. 

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Lizing yourself, do you not 
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So half my quotes on here are 
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though that show's been 
cancelled. 

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But she Liz lemons like lizing 
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And I just, you know, I Liz all 
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I couldn't have been happier 
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side, at least the women's side,
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Name quickly Who won the women's
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Yeah, Marketa, Von Drew, Stova. 
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Or Von Drew Stova or yeah, you 
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A hero can't wait to never see 
her win another title. 

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Oh, come on. 
She's not going to do it. 

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She's done. 
She's one and done. 

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You know, I'm going to agree 
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I think she's not going to win 
another Slam. 

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Yeah, good for her. 
Have a nice life, but have you? 

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Have you come down? 
What have you been up to the 

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last few weeks? 
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just the energy in the air in 
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fight. 
I'm a little worried because 

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I've seen a lot of people 
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A lot of, like, coughing and 
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then like, one person I was with
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last night was like, Oh yeah, my
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But. 
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And I was like, therefore I was 
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little bit more carefully. 
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at all with handling balls. 
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And I also know that you fit to 
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I will say that wastewater tests
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Yeah, yeah, we. 
That's exciting. 

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Summer surge Y'all no people 
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I mean, look, I I flew all I 
flew around the world and I I I,

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I I can't kick this, COVID was. 
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reference. 
Is that her name? 

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I, I, I, I been around the world
and oh, we don't have the rights

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to that. 
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know, I love a a Berry's class. 
She loves berries. 

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I do. 
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Abs Day, you know? 
I got there. 

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I feel like every class at 
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abs. 
Like do they have any other 

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classes? 
It's that's it's there's always 

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Paul, and it's mostly women. 
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So over those two groups, which 
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I'm an. 
Outlier, I feel again. 

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I feel like I did. 
You're the luckiest girl in 

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school. 
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Barry's on Las Standing and 
Holloway. 

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Cuz I know you wanna situate 
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It's a CVS and I was like, you 
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for once in my life. 
So I'm going to pop over CVS and

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get some stuff I need like some 
contact solution, some FLOSS 

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picks, FLOSS and yeah like is 
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You know, whole picks. 
Let's let's say, say that for 

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the end of the episode, because,
oh, like, little floss picks. 

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Gotcha. 
Gotcha. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
Anyway, sorry you were at CVS. 

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I was at CVS and I noticed there
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laxatives and I was like, OK 
work, but in the front of the 

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aisle was a, I'm not kidding, a 
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It was like we're not just going
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shelf in the middle of the 
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We are going to have a full 
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It was like compare the 
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to the CVS, you know, name, 
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And by the way, what are there 
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There was this whole wall of 
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A wall? 
Holes or a hole? 

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What do you mean a whole wall, 
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There was a glory hole in the 
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All these enemas, flashing 
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signed me out. 
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spillover from, you know, you 
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an enema and spillover, but I 
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just jubilation after Wimbledon.
I mean, yeah And or it's people 

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prepping for ASS and ABS class, 
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going to go to ASS and ABS class
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So get a quick fleet and there 
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So how many did you so so did 
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you had to buy all the enemas? 
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Celsius, you know, like one of 
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Red Bull. 
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healthy, like good for like 
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Brock was my instructor. 
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I can't have a Celsius because I
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I can do. 
I can do the math. 

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I can do convert for you if you 
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to convert for me for years. 
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Love Brock. 
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Not a Brock. 
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Hollywood at Barry's. 
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iconic 68 times during the 
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He was like, yes, that's iconic.
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iconic. 
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we were doing 1 legged 
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So like you, you're focusing on 
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is just barely supporting you. 
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bike, right? 
And he was like, so like your 

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right leg, that's like Margot 
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Barbie, and your left leg is 
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supporting character. 
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times, but I didn't. 
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mention. 
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I'm surprised he didn't fight 
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congratulations on that, Brock. 
Let's just say that that fleet 

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wall is cleared. 
It needs to be restocked. 

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Well, you have to use it until 
it goes clear, is what they say.

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So I'm glad it was cleared. 
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that we're back to talk about 
some tennis, you know? 

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It's been because the tennis 
over the past couple weeks has 

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been a real, you know, a little 
forgettable. 

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Yeah. 
Well, that's why there's not 

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even a shriek meter this week 
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so, so we are definitely in the 
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It's not even the Michelle era 
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We are in the era of those two 
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Destiny's Child after no, no, 
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No, no, no, no. 
We are at the bottoms bottom 

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portion of the tour of the both 
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I mean, honestly, who really 
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after Wimbledon? 
Or like, oh Congrats Michaelson,

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you got to the final of Newport.
Or like look at the winners of 

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the WTA recently, like 
Kochiereto beats Burrell and 

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Lucan or Ruse beats Noha Akugu 
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I mean, it's literally a 
veritable like who's who, You 

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know? 
It's like who. 

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It's absolutely Jackson Pollock 
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Like there are tournaments on 
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continent. 
I mean, it's just a points grab 

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shit show. 
And yeah, it's it's really hard 

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for me to care. 
Yeah, same. 

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No. 
And that. 

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And that's why today, listen, 
dear listeners, we are not going

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to make you suffer through a 
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recap of Umagh. 
You know, just know that it was 

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in Croatia, it was incredibly 
humid and Stanford Brinker cried

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at the end of it. 
But it's just, it's not give me 

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the focus of our show today. 
In honor of the bottom of the 

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season, we are going to be 
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and the top bottoms of the year 
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Now, Billy, I know that this is 
a foreign concept to you. 

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Really. 
Sure, what a bottom is or what 

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they do or you know, how they 
act or any of that. 

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And so we're going to break it 
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Well, as you know, I'm an 
intellectually curious person. 

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And so if there's something I 
don't understand or don't know 

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about, I'm open to learning. 
And so this might be an 

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opportunity for me to understand
what bottoming is, what being a 

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bottom is and what bottoming 
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You are a regular Nick. 
Curious cuz you're just your 

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curiosity is just I admire it so
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Oh, but Nick, that tweet. 
Come on, I mean. 

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Yeah, Daria, Kazakina said. 
Hey, I'm not sure we should 

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like, have a tour funded by 
Saudi Arabia because, like, I 

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don't know how comfortable a lot
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there. 
And Nick? 

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Curious was like my girlfriend 
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there. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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And it's like you both Is your 
girlfriend a Russian lesbian? 

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It it's always so funny when 
when someone expresses, rightly 

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so, an opinion about something 
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uncomfortable and and people 
don't know how to react to other

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people's experiences of the 
world, like, Oh well, that's not

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my experience. 
So I'm just going to say to you,

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I'm going to invalidate your 
feelings and say to you, well, I

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think it's fine like, dude, 
yeah, I mean it's interesting 

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because like the, so the DC open
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this year where they are, they 
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It's no longer just the city 
open, you know, a nice homegrown

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American bank, but it's also now
the Mubadala Investment Company,

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which is an Emirates stateowned 
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sovereign wealth fund. 
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basically it's it's it's not 
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open and diverse lifestyle and 
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the the headline sponsor of the 
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The the Mubadala city open. 
Anyway, back to bottoms, the 

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importance. 
Yeah, bottoms and bottoming, so.

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Let's let's focus, yeah. 
And and look, we are famously 

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versatile here at the ball boys.
You know we we're going to take 

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a broad look at, we're going to 
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We're going to look at, you 
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this. 
And so, you know, there's a 

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difference between being a 
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And the Tour, both on the 
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it's full of both. 
It's full of just straight up 

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bottoms and people who just act 
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And so. 
And I would say being a bottom 

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can be a wonderful, beautiful, 
powerful thing. 

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Being a bottom can also be a 
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And being bottom me similarly 
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definitions exactly we're going 
to. 

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Explore the range and honestly, 
we're going to celebrate all 

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them. 
Like look, there's no bottom 

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shaming here. 
Look, if someone, if someone on 

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this zoom just loves to be 
bottoming, like raise your hand.

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Oh Oh my God, Billy. 
Paul, you just raised your legs.

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Paul Well, after my visit to CVS
in my Barry's class, there was 

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some new product. 
I don't know, I pulled it out of

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the package. 
I was like, what's what's this? 

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I I wound up in a. 
Handstand for about 30 minutes 

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and I feel, I feel ready to 
rumble tonight. 

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Well, no, I mean, you actually 
came into my apartment walking 

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on your hands like you are. 
You are committed to the gig and

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and that's that's part of being 
a bottom, you know? 

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Yeah, hard work. 
It is lots of prep. 

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Yeah, it is meal prep. 
It is being on a restrictive 

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diet. 
It is making sacrifices to 

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perform. 
Yeah, that is straight up 

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bottoming. 
But then there are other types 

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of bottoms. 
There's more reluctant bottoms 

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because of the person who is 
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It's like okay, fine. 
And then there's lazy bottoms 

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who just don't put in the 
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There's power bottoms who will 
just overpower anyone that they 

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are facing. 
You know, they're those muscle 

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bottoms who are just, you know, 
they have the glamour muscles. 

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I I I don't know Brock, but I'm 
gonna put him in that category. 

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Yeah, yeah, I mean he, he can 
wear a lot of hats. 

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Yeah. 
And I mean that Brock in the 

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best way. 
Brock or Barack? 

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Barack. 
And you know, there was this 

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woman named Michelle in in 
classrooms. 

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Like, why does she look so For 
work, famously bottoms. 

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August Barako bottom He's Irish.
He's an Irish bottom. 

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Baraka's. 
Gonna catch on Baraka Bottom 

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Yeah, yeah, I do think August is
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Because. 
Because it's like, we've got 

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like one more month of summer. 
Like let's write it out, let's 

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milk it, let's milk that month 
for all it's worth. 

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You know what I mean like. 
We've got padam, padam, we've 

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got Rushed by Troy Sevonne songs
of the summer that are really 

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trying to keep keep us messy and
you know just confused and. 

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Unconfused and open minded look,
the only the only song, the only

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rush song that I love is is 
Paula Abdul. 

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Rush, Rush. 
I mean that's that's my song in 

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the summer. 
I do love a Paula Abdul moment. 

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Like straight up anytime 
vibology. 

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Oh, Paul, No. 
Come on straight. 

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Straight up, cold, hard for your
girl. 

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Opposites attract. 
I mean, I know them all. 

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I was a big Paula fan, I mean. 
Well, there's nothing like an 

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animated cat. 
Adult non animated woman 

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romance. 
Yeah. 

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You're in love. 
Yeah. 

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No. 
Have you ever listened to like 

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the vibology lyrics though? 
It's just. 

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Have not. 
I'm in a funky way. 

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I'm in a funky way. 
Like, it's just it's so and it's

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so bad and so good. 
Like and I just honestly, I 

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minored in Vibology at Cornell. 
What have been like? 

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So the we've talked about this 
is just, it's been a bottomy few

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weeks. 
Bottomy few weeks, yeah. 

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Can you give me some examples, 
Paul? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
And maybe this will help people 

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understand what we mean by like 
bottoms and bottomy and tennis. 

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Yeah. 
Because we have such a clear 

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idea. 
Clear. 

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It's crystal clear. 
Well, I mean, so we've talked a 

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lot about and just before we get
into some of the examples like 

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we've talked about how like gays
love tennis. 

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One of the things that we've 
sort of noticed is the the 

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outfits that the players are are
wearing have kind of evolved 

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lately and it's been a little 
more risque, if you will, on the

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men's side, you know, more, more
tank tops and crop tops and 

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short shorts and you mean you 
were talking about about our our

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buddy Ben Shelton, right? 
Oh, Ben Shelton's outfit was 

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almost like if those shorts were
any shorter, we would be seeing 

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scrotum and if that tank top was
any sneaker, we would be seeing 

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nipple. 
It was like that and that was 

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like are we are we gay baiting? 
Are we teasing? 

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You know, but but in innocent 
way, cuz I feel like Ben 

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Shelton's lovely but I feel like
he's maybe of a generation where

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it's like. 
Oh, yeah, yeah. 

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Every. 
Everybody can lust after me. 

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And I'm not going to be worried 
about. 

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I'm going to embrace all of the 
affection. 

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These kids today, like, I feel 
like they all just kind of like 

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make it. 
I mean, all the American men on 

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socials are like fully gay, 
baiting each other and like hey,

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you go should Coos and like, you
know, Riley and Fritz and my 

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husband and Tiafo. 
Like they all are very your 

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husband Tommy Paul, aka Paul 
Paul. 

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Paul. 
Paul, yes, he's telling me. 

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Paul, you're Paul Moncombe. 
You both took each other's 

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names. 
You're both Paul, Paul just I 

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know listeners you've heard 
this, but I just in case you 

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need to refresher. 
Well, my legal name now is Paul.

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Paul. 
So yeah, send send all the 

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wedding gifts to Paul Paul. 
And yeah, no, I mean his shorts.

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I'm not even gonna say it the 
other way, but like, yeah, if 

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his shorts were any shorter, 
like you would have seen nipple.

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Like it was just like that 
short. 

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And honestly, I love it. 
Like look, people are like, oh, 

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like, no, no, no, Like, don't 
gay bait. 

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Like, no, please continue. 
Like ATP continue to gay bait 

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and WTA also continue to gay 
bait. 

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Like I I'm, you know call me a 
carp because I am here to eat 

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all of that bait back to the 
bottom part of the season. 

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So yeah, we are, we are. 
It's just been bottom central on

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the tour lately. 
So like. 

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Biggest One of the one of the 
bigger bottoms on the men's 

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side, Casper Rude has been bagel
back-to-back losses he lost in 

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the final to what's his name 
Rublev. 

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You know respectable first set 
second set. 

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Blown out six love. 
Then he lost in the quarters of 

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Hamburg again bagels. 
It's like dude, like that is 

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just that's some real bottom 
behavior like to get to be in 

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the top five and get bagels. 
Especially in 250 events that 

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are your bread and butter, 
especially to people who are 

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ranked well below you. 
I mean, Rubelev's great, but 

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like, you know, yeah, Rubelev I 
would say is ranked pretty much 

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equivalent. 
Yeah, it's kind of parody, but 

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it's just like, come on, who 
gets big? 

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Like, that's just bottom me. 
That is just like, you know, 

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kids. 
Like, I get it like we're all a 

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little tired, all crabby. 
It's like been a long season and

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so like maybe like maybe it's 
just like bottom me or like. 

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Okay another tournament Hugo 
guest on who's just kind of 

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always been like a questionable 
sport. 

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His sportsmanship has been a 
little lacking. 

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He actually retired on match 
point so he was down in the 

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third set 5225 and he was down 
love 40 and or sorry 40 love 

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because he was returning and 
instead of returning instead of 

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just finishing the match he 
retired with triple, triple 

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match point. 
That is big bottom energy. 

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That is like, I don't care. 
I'm kind of selfish. 

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I'm going to do what I want. 
It's just it's it's bottom me 

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and like the whole the whole 
like sort of like you said, you 

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know, after Wimbledon, OK, now 
it's going to be a clay court 

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over here and now it's going to 
be a hard court over there and 

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now it's grass over there. 
It's just like wait, get get. 

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It's like chaotic. 
It's it's chaotic energy. 

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I mean, Gaston, First of all, I 
feel like it was like, Oh my 

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gosh, like, like this has been 
like we've been going at it for 

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so long and then it gets to 
right where the match is about 

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to climax, right where he's 
about to lose and he's like, it 

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hurts. 
Yeah. 

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No, stop. 
Yeah, come on. 

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And I agree. 
I mean, I also wonder a little 

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bit. 
OK, most of you didn't make it 

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to the final or the semis of 
Wimbledon, right? 

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So you lost are. 
You talking about me middle of 

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the week? 
Yeah, you lost. 

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Middle of the week, you and 
Tommy and double s and what an 

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opportunity. 
You go back to your training 

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base, you take a 3-4 week block 
between whenever you lose in 

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Wimbledon and the start of the 
hardcourt season and you work on

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something that maybe is lacking 
in your game. 

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For example, I saw Andre Eva, 
you know, she was playing on 

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clay last week. 
This is Mira Andre Eva, She's 

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that 16 year old phenom. 
She she really is a phenom. 

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She's really good. 
But I mean when you're 16, come 

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on, you obviously have 
opportunities to improve in your

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game and maybe don't play her, 
maybe don't play a tournament 

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that week, maybe beef up that 
serve, maybe work on your 

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movement, maybe work on some 
some strength training. 

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I just kind of wonder about 
players choices who are playing 

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these these tournaments, who are
that are spread all over the 

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globe. 
Well, people do love to play 

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their home country. 
Like, you know, EGA had to play.

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Or saw like it was like, of 
course she's going to play 

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again, total bottom results 
where she just demolished 

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everybody. 
But like, whatever. 

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She's a, she's a she's a big 
top, Iga. 

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Big, Yeah. 
I agree. 

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And it's like there is not 
really an offseason in tennis 

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except for basically the the end
of December and that's it. 

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So this is a mini offseason. 
So yeah, like, let's let's all 

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take a collective break a beat 
and like. 

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Not like kind of pushing your 
way through and just like no, no

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more, more, more Again, big 
bottom energy. 

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It's like just give me, give me 
that, I'm going to like oink up,

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you know, a couple points here 
and there. 

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Well, let's let's talk a little 
bit more about like any other 

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bottomy stuff we want to talk 
about that's happening in the 

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last couple weeks. 
I just want to give a quick 

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shout out to Spitalina, Elena, 
Spitalina because I feel like 

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her game was pretty bottomy pre 
baby and she has come back and 

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she is topping everybody. 
So she's like, so she's a bottom

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who became a top? 
Yes. 

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You don't see that too often. 
You kind of see usually. 

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Yeah, I know. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Do you think it's it's it's 

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being married to Malfeast? 
Do you think it's being 

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motherhood? 
Do you think it's the ravages of

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war? 
What do you think has? 

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Yeah, I mean I you know topping 
requires a level of perspective,

445
00:26:47,050 --> 00:26:55,890
a certain amount of patience, a 
a leadership quality a a drive 

446
00:26:55,890 --> 00:27:00,890
and determination and ability to
rally the troops ability to. 

447
00:27:01,350 --> 00:27:03,750
Put up with a lot of like, 
screaming babies. 

448
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:07,910
I mean, so I think that just 
like, yeah, all of those things.

449
00:27:07,910 --> 00:27:08,950
I think it's all of those 
things. 

450
00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:12,390
I think it's the ravages of war 
and the ravages of motherhood 

451
00:27:12,670 --> 00:27:16,510
have turned her into, you know, 
a pretty solid top because yeah,

452
00:27:16,510 --> 00:27:18,550
she is. 
She's topping her way through 

453
00:27:18,550 --> 00:27:21,510
the tour and and I'm I'm 
impressed because she was a 

454
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:24,870
bottom, yeah. 
And that doesn't mean that being

455
00:27:25,150 --> 00:27:27,590
a top is better than being a 
bottom. 

456
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:31,430
It's just for Spitalina right 
now that's impressive. 

457
00:27:31,790 --> 00:27:33,790
Yeah, yeah. 
No, look, we're not shaming 

458
00:27:33,790 --> 00:27:35,750
bottoms or tops. 
We're actually shaming 

459
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:37,150
everybody. 
Like look, that's what we do on 

460
00:27:37,150 --> 00:27:38,110
this show. 
We're going to make fun of 

461
00:27:38,110 --> 00:27:39,670
everybody. 
We're going to make fun of tops,

462
00:27:39,670 --> 00:27:43,310
bottoms and Billy and that's 
just, that's what we do here. 

463
00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:46,070
So yeah. 
And yeah, and I think also you 

464
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:48,670
know you're bringing up. 
So Spitalina is playing really 

465
00:27:48,670 --> 00:27:51,790
well, FTC at the Muvidella Open 
or whatever it's called. 

466
00:27:52,270 --> 00:27:55,710
And I I do think that we are 
emerging out of the bottom era 

467
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:59,630
of of this sort of mini break, 
which is great. 

468
00:28:00,710 --> 00:28:04,190
And and and we're about to hit 
like the real hardcourt swaying 

469
00:28:04,190 --> 00:28:08,230
where it's just the the exotic 
worlds of Cincinnati and 

470
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:10,910
Toronto. 
It's just, I mean, I can't 

471
00:28:10,910 --> 00:28:13,950
imagine anywhere I'd like to go 
more than Cincinnati in August. 

472
00:28:15,310 --> 00:28:18,590
Roller coasters, though. 
Do they have roller coasters? 

473
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:22,230
Yeah, There's this big amusement
park right near the tournament 

474
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:25,670
site and that's one of like the 
the selling points. 

475
00:28:25,670 --> 00:28:29,610
It's like the players come and 
you know after they they play 

476
00:28:29,610 --> 00:28:31,850
their match they go over to 
whatever it's called. 

477
00:28:31,850 --> 00:28:36,770
It's like a Six Flags and they 
you know spin around in 18 loops

478
00:28:36,770 --> 00:28:41,050
and and and wow, defy gravity 
And some of them love it. 

479
00:28:41,050 --> 00:28:44,290
Some of them don't. 
I'm gonna tell you the last time

480
00:28:44,290 --> 00:28:49,410
I rode 11OK, so I don't love 
Vegas. 

481
00:28:49,410 --> 00:28:51,890
And is this a euphemism? 
It's a euphemism. 

482
00:28:51,890 --> 00:28:57,250
What's the last time you rode 1?
Yeah, well, aside from Ask class

483
00:28:57,250 --> 00:29:03,770
with Brock, I was in Vegas. 
New York, NY has a roller 

484
00:29:03,770 --> 00:29:07,050
coaster. 
It's probably not the most, you 

485
00:29:07,050 --> 00:29:08,810
know, frightening roller coaster
of all time. 

486
00:29:08,850 --> 00:29:16,930
But when you take it and you're 
up looking down on Trump Tower 

487
00:29:16,930 --> 00:29:23,010
and Luxor and Circus Circus and 
the Bellagio and everything else

488
00:29:23,010 --> 00:29:27,850
Las Vegas has to offer and also.
So romantic hearing for your 

489
00:29:27,850 --> 00:29:30,970
life. 
That's bottoming. 

490
00:29:32,890 --> 00:29:35,850
I'm just going to say I 
recommend if you like roller 

491
00:29:35,850 --> 00:29:38,330
coasters at all, I recommend 
that roller coaster. 

492
00:29:40,410 --> 00:29:42,330
All right. 
Well, and that was not 

493
00:29:42,330 --> 00:29:46,090
sponsored. 
So that's just the last roller 

494
00:29:46,090 --> 00:29:48,650
coaster. 
We do have a sponsor for this 

495
00:29:48,650 --> 00:29:51,650
episode, right? 
We do have a sponsor, yes. 

496
00:29:51,930 --> 00:29:54,370
Yeah, we're going to take a 
quick break and be back in a 

497
00:29:54,370 --> 00:29:56,970
little bit, but. 
Before we do, we just have a 

498
00:29:56,970 --> 00:30:00,690
word from our latest sponsor, 
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499
00:30:01,490 --> 00:30:06,450
So this is not what Billy saw at
CVS, but this is Fritz's fleets.

500
00:30:06,810 --> 00:30:10,370
Take it to the limit, with 
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501
00:30:10,370 --> 00:30:14,290
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502
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503
00:30:17,890 --> 00:30:21,090
done. 
That's Fritz's fleets. 

504
00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:26,300
And we'll be right back to probe
deeper in the topic of bottoms 

505
00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:29,260
and bottomy and the world of 
tennis. 

506
00:30:30,380 --> 00:30:32,900
Now, Billy, I want that water to
run clear when we're back. 

507
00:30:40,260 --> 00:30:41,940
All right, welcome back 
everybody. 

508
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:44,860
We are ready to go on to the 
next segment. 

509
00:30:44,860 --> 00:30:49,020
Billy has successfully cleared 
the water. 

510
00:30:49,420 --> 00:30:52,930
Congratulations, Billy. 
And now we can finally play the 

511
00:30:52,930 --> 00:30:55,410
game. 
Pin the tail on the bottom. 

512
00:30:56,210 --> 00:30:58,330
Sorry Paul, that that took a few
hours. 

513
00:30:59,730 --> 00:31:02,970
Yeah, we we speed up. 
This was a this was a time lapse

514
00:31:03,010 --> 00:31:05,890
and it is now well past 
midnight. 

515
00:31:05,890 --> 00:31:07,290
But we're ready to play the 
game. 

516
00:31:07,730 --> 00:31:10,610
The water's clear. 
The water was what you wanted. 

517
00:31:10,890 --> 00:31:12,810
The water's great. 
Come on in. 

518
00:31:12,810 --> 00:31:15,290
Is that, is that, is that what 
they say? 

519
00:31:15,610 --> 00:31:21,150
I think that's what Jaws said. 
Notoriously not a bottom. 

520
00:31:22,270 --> 00:31:27,670
Jaws was a top. 
Jaws definitely was a like kind 

521
00:31:27,670 --> 00:31:29,350
of the top you don't want to 
meet. 

522
00:31:29,670 --> 00:31:33,870
Like, oh, Toxic Top, Yeah. 
Shark Week? 

523
00:31:33,870 --> 00:31:34,990
No thanks. 
I'm good. 

524
00:31:35,230 --> 00:31:35,750
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

525
00:31:35,790 --> 00:31:39,070
No toxic toxic shark syndrome. 
I've had that. 

526
00:31:39,230 --> 00:31:41,710
And it's just like, girl don't 
date him. 

527
00:31:42,190 --> 00:31:46,360
No, no. 
I think we were talking earlier 

528
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,680
about my friend Willie Bamson. 
He's like a good friend of mine.

529
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,600
Oh, yeah. 
Oh, Willie. 

530
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,080
Willie Bamson. 
Yeah, yeah, he's been the I I I 

531
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,400
consulted with him a lot before 
recording this episode because I

532
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,480
just wanted to understand his 
experience as he's a he's a he's

533
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,000
a bottom. 
I mean he he is a confident 

534
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,880
bottom and so. 
Billy Hanson's best friend, 

535
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,880
Willie Bamson. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so. 

536
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,240
You guys look so much alike. 
No, I mean, honestly, yeah, 

537
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,160
we're we're twinning. 
He's told me about some of his 

538
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,200
experiences as a as a bottom, so
I'm just trying to relay them. 

539
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,440
Thank God the water is finally 
clear cuz now we can play pin 

540
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,400
the tail on the bottom. 
But waiting to play this all 

541
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,320
night it's it's just like your 
favorite night at the eagle. 

542
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,120
So pin the tail on the bottom. 
What we're going to do is we're 

543
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,860
basically going to. 
Talk about a topic, a sort of 

544
00:32:45,860 --> 00:32:50,860
bottomy or bottoms topic and we 
are going to decide who fits 

545
00:32:50,860 --> 00:32:52,540
that. 
You know what is, what is the 

546
00:32:52,540 --> 00:32:54,500
right answer. 
And Billy and I have to agree on

547
00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:57,500
that. 
And Billy and I if nothing 

548
00:32:57,940 --> 00:33:01,140
agree. 
And so Paul, I thought this was 

549
00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:04,100
going to be a short episode. 
We have to agree on these. 

550
00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:09,660
Yeah, it's only been hours. 
So how much longer do I have to 

551
00:33:09,660 --> 00:33:12,060
be here? 
Well look, I've got sweet green 

552
00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:14,300
coming. 
I ordered a bottom friendly meal

553
00:33:15,380 --> 00:33:17,700
that neither one of us is going 
to eat so we can then go out 

554
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:19,700
after this. 
Yeah, we're meeting up with 

555
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:22,300
Willie Bamson and 30 minutes at 
the Eagle. 

556
00:33:22,420 --> 00:33:27,540
And and and mall shunk home. 
You know my good girlfriend. 

557
00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:31,700
Mall. 
Mall Flanders Yeah, he's a real 

558
00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:34,220
good time. 
She's a hoot. 

559
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:37,700
She's what we call a tornado. 
What a bottom. 

560
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:41,420
Okay. 
So the first category that we're

561
00:33:41,420 --> 00:33:43,540
going to talk about is bottom 
shots. 

562
00:33:44,620 --> 00:33:47,580
And really the question just is 
what's the most bottomy shot out

563
00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:49,500
there? 
And so I've got a couple of 

564
00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:54,460
nominees and so we've got the 
one handed backhand, which is 

565
00:33:54,460 --> 00:33:57,700
just like, it's kind of like 
that thing that like, you know, 

566
00:33:57,700 --> 00:34:00,300
say you're at a club and someone
says something kind of rude to 

567
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:01,580
you. 
You're like, how dare you And 

568
00:34:01,580 --> 00:34:04,020
you smack them across the face 
with the back of your hand. 

569
00:34:04,020 --> 00:34:05,900
It's like that one handed 
backhand motion. 

570
00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:09,820
Or is it like the drop shot 
where it's just like the middle 

571
00:34:09,820 --> 00:34:11,980
of the game and you're just 
like, I'm just going to drop you

572
00:34:11,980 --> 00:34:14,820
and like, you know, make you run
to the net and look, like, 

573
00:34:14,940 --> 00:34:16,100
terrible? 
Or. 

574
00:34:16,739 --> 00:34:20,340
Or is it the underhand serve 
where it's just like, OK, wait, 

575
00:34:20,340 --> 00:34:23,860
what? 
Like Bublic Bublic Big top 

576
00:34:23,860 --> 00:34:26,300
energy. 
But he does this underhand serve

577
00:34:27,219 --> 00:34:30,139
or underarm serve, and it's just
like, wait, what? 

578
00:34:31,409 --> 00:34:33,010
And it's just, it's giving 
bottom energy. 

579
00:34:33,010 --> 00:34:36,889
And so I was just curious, you 
know, what is the, what is the, 

580
00:34:36,889 --> 00:34:40,730
the bottomy shot in tennis? 
Well, I want to fundamentally 

581
00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:44,370
disagree with you that a touch 
shot is bottomy. 

582
00:34:44,969 --> 00:34:48,170
I feel like a touch shot is 
toppy, especially if it's 

583
00:34:48,210 --> 00:34:52,330
executed well because that's 
like peak toppiness because it's

584
00:34:52,330 --> 00:34:56,780
like okay, I've been pounding 
you and now I'm going to finish 

585
00:34:56,900 --> 00:35:01,140
off with something that's so 
delicate and gentle and sweet 

586
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:05,020
and. 
You know what a top is. 

587
00:35:05,260 --> 00:35:08,540
You're not just I'm. 
So delicate and gent, like 

588
00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:13,140
that's how you finish off a 
bottom, you know that's how you 

589
00:35:13,140 --> 00:35:15,820
maybe like, take a like an 
intermission, right? 

590
00:35:15,820 --> 00:35:22,140
Like you have some levels in in 
the interaction, right? 

591
00:35:22,140 --> 00:35:28,300
Like it's like #### then ooh. 
And if it's executed flawlessly,

592
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:33,860
like Alcaraz executes his 
flawlessly, Booblick executes it

593
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:39,500
pretty messily. 
He's a sloppy, sloppy underarm. 

594
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:43,550
Serve right there, Sir. 
I mean and and the one handed 

595
00:35:43,550 --> 00:35:48,350
backhand, it requires so much 
strength, so much upper body 

596
00:35:48,350 --> 00:35:50,390
strength. 
And I feel like, I mean, I don't

597
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:52,830
want to imply the Bottoms don't 
have a lot of upper body 

598
00:35:52,830 --> 00:35:55,150
strength or that bottomy tennis 
isn't. 

599
00:35:55,630 --> 00:35:59,990
Weak arms. 
Yeah, those tiny little arms. 

600
00:36:01,190 --> 00:36:03,790
I'm going to do a write in vote.
I think it's a two handed 

601
00:36:03,790 --> 00:36:05,670
backhand. 
Wow. 

602
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:10,990
Because you're you're holding on
to the big, that big stick with 

603
00:36:10,990 --> 00:36:15,510
both hands because it's so heavy
and all you can do is swing it 

604
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:19,430
through the air with all your 
might and grunt and try and 

605
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:23,030
smack that ball back. 
That's my vote. 

606
00:36:23,310 --> 00:36:26,550
That's my writein vote. 
Yeah, but see, and this is where

607
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:28,710
this is. 
I mean, this is where I love the

608
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:31,990
discourse on this show because 
we get to the bottom of these 

609
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:34,990
really important issues. 
You know, I'm thinking of like, 

610
00:36:34,990 --> 00:36:37,870
bottom me as like almost like 
flair. 

611
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:40,430
You know, like. 
The one handed backhand or the 

612
00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:43,430
drop shot or that. 
It's like if there's just like a

613
00:36:44,110 --> 00:36:47,030
I think they call it panache. 
Like it's just like, it's kind 

614
00:36:47,110 --> 00:36:52,030
of like ooh ooh that style. 
Or like like it's just like, oh 

615
00:36:52,030 --> 00:36:57,110
wow, like girl, you better work.
See, I feel like a bottoming 

616
00:36:57,110 --> 00:37:03,030
shot is more like desperate and 
like reactive and you're on your

617
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:06,990
back foot and you're feeling a 
little bit, but you're using all

618
00:37:06,990 --> 00:37:10,430
your might to try and take it 
and and and give it back. 

619
00:37:11,870 --> 00:37:13,710
See, and this is, this is 
America. 

620
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:15,670
You know, like this is the way 
we see bottoms. 

621
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:18,470
Like I see them as a beautiful 
thing and you see them as just 

622
00:37:18,830 --> 00:37:22,550
desperate. 
I just got a text from Samson. 

623
00:37:24,030 --> 00:37:26,710
Does he have a right in? 
He's weighing in and he is 

624
00:37:26,830 --> 00:37:29,820
actually agreeing with you, 
Paul, he says. 

625
00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:33,740
Shut up. 
He says that the underhanded 

626
00:37:33,740 --> 00:37:38,020
surf is the most bottoming shot.
I agree too, because the 

627
00:37:38,060 --> 00:37:40,820
underhanded surf, there's 
something just like a little bit

628
00:37:40,820 --> 00:37:44,100
of like it's top, bottom, top, 
bottom. 

629
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:46,540
It's top bottom, but it's also 
demon twink energy. 

630
00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:49,020
Like, I don't know if you all 
remember the Demon Twink meme 

631
00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:50,580
from a couple years ago, but it 
was. 

632
00:37:51,180 --> 00:37:54,100
There's a Britney Spears themed 
party boat that went around New 

633
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:57,690
York City and some sometimes I 
might have been there. 

634
00:37:58,050 --> 00:38:02,970
Yeah, I might even be. 
Some twink named Willie Bamson 

635
00:38:02,970 --> 00:38:08,210
was there and apparently got a 
little messy and did not give a 

636
00:38:08,690 --> 00:38:12,530
you know you know what and just 
was like terrorizing the boat 

637
00:38:12,650 --> 00:38:15,650
and end up having sex like on 
the dance floor in front of 

638
00:38:15,650 --> 00:38:18,890
everybody and like didn't care. 
It was just like a nightmare and

639
00:38:18,890 --> 00:38:23,730
and hence the demon Twink meme 
was was born and the underhanded

640
00:38:23,730 --> 00:38:29,320
service kind of demon Twinkie. 
It's just like, whoa, okay, 

641
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,360
Well, okay, Most bought me shot.
Underhanded serve. 

642
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,680
We agree. 
Amazing. 

643
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,760
Check. 
You know what would be a real 

644
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,600
move though, Paul? 
Like, I kind of want to play a 

645
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,400
match where every single one of 
my serves is underhand, where 

646
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:55,010
it's like, Oh no, this is how I 
serve and just just keep doing 

647
00:38:55,010 --> 00:38:57,970
it. 
So you're saying you want to 

648
00:38:57,970 --> 00:39:02,810
improve your current serve, I 
mean. 

649
00:39:04,010 --> 00:39:12,410
Not true. 
I will attempt this over the 

650
00:39:12,410 --> 00:39:16,690
next week or two, and we'll 
report back to you on our next 

651
00:39:16,690 --> 00:39:20,370
episode how it went with me 
underhand serving an entire 

652
00:39:20,370 --> 00:39:22,690
match. 
An entire I mean, it might not 

653
00:39:22,690 --> 00:39:26,090
all be sliced underhand serves. 
I might top a few of them, top 

654
00:39:26,330 --> 00:39:30,010
spin a few of them, but they're 
all going to be underhand feeds.

655
00:39:30,250 --> 00:39:34,370
They're all going to be complete
disasters and I can't wait to 

656
00:39:34,650 --> 00:39:38,330
buy a ticket to that match. 
I will cheer you on. 

657
00:39:38,690 --> 00:39:43,130
They're selling out. 
I think that was part of the UTS

658
00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:47,950
or the, yeah. 
The the UTF urinary tract 

659
00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:49,030
infection, I don't know 
whatever. 

660
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:55,070
But yeah, UTI okay next category
is our bottom bottomy strategy. 

661
00:39:55,270 --> 00:40:00,790
So we've got two options here. 
One is playing mostly and 

662
00:40:00,790 --> 00:40:06,590
winning mostly two 50s to get in
the top 10 or just playing slams

663
00:40:06,590 --> 00:40:11,390
because you're chasing a record 
and you know there's pros and 

664
00:40:11,390 --> 00:40:14,680
cons to both, like look. 
Vulturing around, I think is 

665
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,920
what you called it, where it's 
like okay. 

666
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,440
You pick up points. 
You pick up points like it's 

667
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,080
smart, but it's just like it's a
little piggy. 

668
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:26,320
It's a little you know, and and 
I'm thinking of my favorite 

669
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,160
bottom in the top 10 is Casper 
Rude, where he just wins two 

670
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,040
50s. 
He just think that's all he 

671
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,400
does. 
He gets these points and sure 

672
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:38,080
he's up there with the big boys,
but like I don't know or the 

673
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,720
well, so the option, the other, 
the other alternative there is 

674
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:43,640
like, you know, so just playing,
you know, kind of like a, you 

675
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,800
know a Novak style where it's 
like look, I don't care about 

676
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,160
playing anywhere except for the 
Slams because I'm just chasing 

677
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,400
this record. 
I'm just I'm like hell bent on 

678
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,080
getting as many Slams as 
possible. 

679
00:40:54,080 --> 00:41:00,120
I don't really care about the 
tour or about showing up week in

680
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,080
week out. 
I just want to have this one 

681
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,600
goal in mind, like I don't know 
which one thought of me. 

682
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,880
I hate to. 
Give Novak credit. 

683
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,440
But, like, it'd be one thing if 
he was just playing the Slams 

684
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,720
and then losing, but he's mostly
playing the Slams and getting to

685
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:23,880
the finals and mostly winning. 
Oh yeah, both these strategies 

686
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,920
work, but it's just which one's 
more, which one's more of like a

687
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,720
bottom vibe, you know? 
The vulturing the two 50s for 

688
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:33,080
for sure. 
Thank you. 

689
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:39,020
Agreed. 
It's so it it's that. 

690
00:41:39,020 --> 00:41:41,020
So again, there's a lot of 
different definitions of 

691
00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:43,140
bottoming. 
And this is the more of like the

692
00:41:43,140 --> 00:41:47,180
unseemly side of the bottoming 
or it's just like like the 

693
00:41:47,180 --> 00:41:50,020
person who like you put your 
drink down and then they like 

694
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:51,300
take it. 
Like it's that they'll they'll 

695
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:53,660
steal your drink, they'll steal 
your man, they'll just like 

696
00:41:53,660 --> 00:41:56,620
they'll do anything for points. 
It's just real real. 

697
00:41:56,620 --> 00:41:59,260
You don't trust that bottom? 
No, no. 

698
00:41:59,940 --> 00:42:05,220
Yeah. 
Okay next, next category is our 

699
00:42:05,220 --> 00:42:09,590
top bottoms. 
And so these are these are the 

700
00:42:09,590 --> 00:42:13,310
bottoms who are kind of like at 
the top of the game, but they're

701
00:42:13,310 --> 00:42:15,870
still bottoms. 
You know it's like OK, so we are

702
00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:17,790
rude is already one of them. 
We don't talk with him anymore 

703
00:42:17,790 --> 00:42:20,950
he's he's he's forever Hall of 
Fame top bottom. 

704
00:42:22,030 --> 00:42:25,790
But I'm curious, you know, are 
there any any players on the 

705
00:42:25,790 --> 00:42:29,110
women's or men's tour who are 
also kind of these top bottoms? 

706
00:42:31,950 --> 00:42:35,430
Well, the first person who comes
to mind is Maria Sakary and you 

707
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:37,450
know. 
I'm a fan. 

708
00:42:37,450 --> 00:42:40,650
We saw her live in Indian Wells 
and she really impressed us. 

709
00:42:40,650 --> 00:42:46,290
She'd be plisk of a she's got a 
game and she really, you know, 

710
00:42:46,290 --> 00:42:49,730
struts around the court with 
total top energy. 

711
00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:53,250
But there's some Peacocks. 
Yeah, there's something about 

712
00:42:53,250 --> 00:42:59,130
kind of the way her matches 
ultimately pan out, the way her 

713
00:42:59,130 --> 00:43:02,890
tournaments ultimately falter. 
No, I totally agree. 

714
00:43:02,890 --> 00:43:06,780
Like she like she's she's got 
like big top energy and like, 

715
00:43:06,780 --> 00:43:08,460
she's definitely a top. 
Like, she's actually not really 

716
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:10,780
bottom, she's a top. 
But yeah, she's not really 

717
00:43:10,780 --> 00:43:14,420
packing. 
Like she's she's that top who 

718
00:43:14,420 --> 00:43:16,620
gets blocked on grinder after 
sending a Dick pic where she's 

719
00:43:16,620 --> 00:43:18,980
like, ohh Nope. 
Next, like she's just like. 

720
00:43:20,580 --> 00:43:22,900
And that's hard to do because 
according to my friend Willie 

721
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:28,620
Bamson, like you're if unless 
the photos are real disaster, 

722
00:43:28,620 --> 00:43:32,940
you're like, ohh, OK well, you 
know for a for a Friday morning,

723
00:43:32,940 --> 00:43:35,400
like, I'll take it. 
I mean honestly, like a 

724
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,080
discerning bottom as if like 
it's like, I'll take it. 

725
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:39,960
It's fine. 
Yeah. 

726
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,320
What? 
It's Thursday at 3:00 PM Let's 

727
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,400
do this. 
Yeah. 

728
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,560
That's when we started 
recording. 

729
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,040
Welcome to our five hour show 
Okay. 

730
00:43:53,040 --> 00:44:00,000
So our next category or topic of
the Bottomy bottoms is the 

731
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,750
biggest bottom. 
And honestly, I think we both 

732
00:44:03,750 --> 00:44:08,310
know there's there's only one 
person who gets this award. 

733
00:44:08,750 --> 00:44:11,070
There's a consensus here. 
There's a consensus. 

734
00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:15,390
Sure, Yeah. 
And we're really pimpson. 

735
00:44:15,590 --> 00:44:18,950
Oh, sorry, no, for the 
professional tour it is. 

736
00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:24,190
Who is it? 
Rafael Rafa Nadal. 

737
00:44:24,590 --> 00:44:27,350
Yeah, I mean, biggest bottom 
there. 

738
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,200
Well, so. 
So the thing about Rafa, it's 

739
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,880
like this. 
So this is the type of bottom 

740
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,480
that is insatiable. 
Yeah. 

741
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,120
He takes a pounding. 
He picks his butt, he picks 

742
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,400
himself back up, then he takes 
him to pounding. 

743
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,120
He never wants to stop, right. 
He's never given up. 

744
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,960
He is. 
He is hungry. 

745
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,160
Isn't he, I feel like. 
I mean, I feel like Federer has 

746
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,320
almost never retired from a 
match, but. 

747
00:44:57,750 --> 00:45:01,830
Nadal has rarely retired either.
He's like, I'll take it, I'll 

748
00:45:01,830 --> 00:45:05,710
take it, I'll take it. 
I'm not going to tap out. 

749
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:09,510
No, you're going to tap out. 
And I mean, he has spent the 

750
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:11,830
last 20 years like breaking his 
body. 

751
00:45:11,830 --> 00:45:14,750
Like breaking. 
Like it's like, you know, he is 

752
00:45:14,750 --> 00:45:18,390
like, I can take that. 
I will take it and give me more,

753
00:45:18,830 --> 00:45:20,750
please. 
Like he will do whatever it 

754
00:45:20,750 --> 00:45:23,550
takes. 
He is there for the crowd. 

755
00:45:23,550 --> 00:45:27,190
He loves an audience. 
He is verbal. 

756
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:33,480
He grunts. 
Yeah, and I mean, I know it's a 

757
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:39,680
bit of a of the elephant in the 
room, but that ass that I mean 

758
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,800
our biggest bottom can't not 
have a stellar ass and that 

759
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,040
Nidal ass is almost inhuman. 
It is. 

760
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,760
It is sculpted. 
It is like the David, but also 

761
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,310
like do you know why he picks it
so much? 

762
00:45:59,750 --> 00:46:03,590
Well, I think part of it is 
because his ass is so ample that

763
00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:09,990
actually even generously sized 
underwear rides up and he 

764
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:15,590
literally has to pull the fabric
from his sweaty crack. 

765
00:46:17,390 --> 00:46:23,030
They made him play lefty. 
Oh, I know they really they they

766
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:26,870
knew that his. 
Bottom Hood could go in a lot of

767
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:29,470
directions. 
They knew that it could bottom 

768
00:46:29,470 --> 00:46:33,470
out or that he could become one 
of the greatest players of all 

769
00:46:33,470 --> 00:46:38,870
time. 
And they managed him in a 

770
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:42,590
somewhat strict way, I will say,
which which seems like Rafa 

771
00:46:42,590 --> 00:46:44,070
responded to. 
So are you talking? 

772
00:46:44,110 --> 00:46:47,150
Are so, are you kind of 
inferring there's a superiority 

773
00:46:47,150 --> 00:46:52,430
to being left-handed? 
No, no, because I was going to 

774
00:46:52,430 --> 00:46:54,030
say raise your hand if. 
You're a lefty. 

775
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:59,350
Oh, Paul's hand is raised. 
I'm and it's my left hand. 

776
00:46:59,630 --> 00:47:02,750
I do. 
I do believe that there's 

777
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:05,270
there's something to embrace 
about leftiness. 

778
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:08,030
And I love being a lefty. 
I love it. 

779
00:47:08,110 --> 00:47:11,990
I I would not be a righty even 
if even if Uncle Tony tried to 

780
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:13,390
force me into being 
right-handed. 

781
00:47:13,390 --> 00:47:17,710
I love being left-handed. 
You know what it's like to to go

782
00:47:17,710 --> 00:47:20,630
through a righty's world as a 
lefty? 

783
00:47:21,590 --> 00:47:23,550
I'm basically doing everything 
that you're doing. 

784
00:47:23,550 --> 00:47:25,910
But like backwards and in heels 
it is. 

785
00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:28,670
But don't they have, like, 
mouses? 

786
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:34,390
Like, you know, computer mouses 
for lefties and like and and you

787
00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:36,590
know, cigarette holders for 
lefties. 

788
00:47:38,030 --> 00:47:40,870
No, that's the thing. 
Like I I could never smoke 

789
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:42,590
cigarettes because. 
They're flesh lights for 

790
00:47:42,590 --> 00:47:46,070
lefties. 
And you know, right, because 

791
00:47:46,070 --> 00:47:49,550
they zig and I zag. 
I mean, the whole thing is a 

792
00:47:49,550 --> 00:47:53,360
racket against. 
Lefties, I I do want to. 

793
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaking of zagging, as we 
speak, your husband Paul Paul is

794
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:04,800
playing against Alex Demonar. 
And I'm just saying, if your 

795
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,320
husband wins, we are booking a 
flight and we're going down 

796
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,240
there, we we gotta go. 
Tomorrow morning and go Tommy 

797
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:14,040
and but you know he's playing 
against you know formidable Alex

798
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:19,520
de Manure who is really isn't 
that how you say it. 

799
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,200
Sure. 
Yeah, I love him. 

800
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,000
I actually do love him. 
His mustache journey is one that

801
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,400
I very much identify with. 
Harry was. 

802
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,760
A great player. 
He really maximizes his. 

803
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:37,120
His Yeah, he's like he's he's 
he's like the Jess Pagula of the

804
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,720
ATP Navy. 
But we saw him take off his 

805
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:43,960
shirt and we saw a tattoo on 
his, I believe it was left 

806
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:49,280
pectoral and it was a number and
the number was 109 and. 

807
00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:52,630
I feel like you knew just off 
the top of your head what that 

808
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:57,350
stood for. 
He has the tattoo of 109 because

809
00:48:57,350 --> 00:49:03,070
he's the 109th Australian to 
play, to represent Australia and

810
00:49:03,070 --> 00:49:08,430
Davis Cup, which is like like, 
that's real commitment, that's 

811
00:49:08,430 --> 00:49:12,030
real. 
But it's also like 100. 

812
00:49:12,030 --> 00:49:14,470
If I was the 109th to do 
anything, I wouldn't be like, 

813
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:16,310
well, I've got to remember that 
one. 

814
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:20,410
Like 109th. 
My suspicion is that that's what

815
00:49:20,410 --> 00:49:24,970
he's telling the media. 
But there are some other records

816
00:49:24,970 --> 00:49:31,530
that he's aspiring toward, and 
right now he's at like 8586, the

817
00:49:31,530 --> 00:49:36,370
body count and 109. 
Yeah, 109 is the goal and he's 

818
00:49:37,210 --> 00:49:41,730
Yeah, I I do love it also though
because he, you know, he's like,

819
00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:44,490
oh, you guys are fighting over 
2324. 

820
00:49:44,490 --> 00:49:48,180
I'm at 109, bitch. 
Yeah, that Novak, take that, 

821
00:49:48,260 --> 00:49:50,780
Margaret Court. 
Good day. 

822
00:49:52,140 --> 00:49:54,660
He's like, I'm 109. 
Like you'll never catch that. 

823
00:49:54,940 --> 00:49:57,700
How would Margaret Court say 
Alex Diminar though? 

824
00:49:58,940 --> 00:50:02,740
Alex Diminura. 
Good day. 

825
00:50:03,340 --> 00:50:05,140
Hello. 
It's Diminure. 

826
00:50:07,060 --> 00:50:08,780
Isn't that how I don't know how 
you say I? 

827
00:50:08,980 --> 00:50:09,660
Don't know. 
Poor. 

828
00:50:09,660 --> 00:50:12,420
I don't poor. 
I lived in Australia. 

829
00:50:12,580 --> 00:50:15,390
I modeled there. 
They didn't like it when we 

830
00:50:15,390 --> 00:50:16,870
spoke. 
I don't know. 

831
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:19,030
Okay. 
All right. 

832
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:22,750
Well, what's our next category? 
So just you know just about the 

833
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:25,710
the the biggest bottom, you know
as a follow up, you know Novak 

834
00:50:25,710 --> 00:50:27,990
of course wants all the records,
he wants to be the biggest 

835
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:33,790
bottom, but he is not, he is. 
So if if if Rafa is like that 

836
00:50:33,790 --> 00:50:35,510
bottom, who's just never going 
to give up? 

837
00:50:36,030 --> 00:50:40,510
Novak, honestly he's like that. 
He's like that kind of gross 

838
00:50:40,510 --> 00:50:44,270
bottom who's like so well oiled 
and well tuned that like he'll 

839
00:50:44,270 --> 00:50:47,790
like walk around and being like 
I'm a self cleaning oven, which 

840
00:50:47,870 --> 00:50:50,710
if you ever meet a bottom and 
they say that run because it's 

841
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:54,830
just like, OK girl, we get it. 
I mean what what's so bad about 

842
00:50:54,830 --> 00:50:58,430
that, Paul, like that that means
that basically it's like as 

843
00:50:58,430 --> 00:51:03,790
Janet Jackson would say anytime,
any place. 

844
00:51:05,230 --> 00:51:11,550
What key was that in anytime? 
The key of E minor slash major 

845
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:16,350
key of B Autumn. 
Yeah, no, it's just like, look, 

846
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:20,870
look, the problem with that 
whole mindset and and Novak, 

847
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:25,470
it's like, you know, like, yeah,
he's great at bottoming, but 

848
00:51:25,470 --> 00:51:27,790
it's like robotic, like they 
don't actually like they're not 

849
00:51:27,790 --> 00:51:31,030
present, they're not there. 
Like there's no joy in that 

850
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:33,230
bottom and they're like, no, I 
can just give me more, give me 

851
00:51:33,230 --> 00:51:35,830
more, give me more. 
He may not even be aware that 

852
00:51:35,830 --> 00:51:38,460
it's happening. 
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

853
00:51:38,460 --> 00:51:40,380
Like, he doesn't savor it. 
And there's like, and we've 

854
00:51:40,380 --> 00:51:43,460
talked about this like, there's 
no joy in Djokovic's game. 

855
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:47,620
The only joy he gets is is. 
Antagonizing the crowd. 

856
00:51:47,860 --> 00:51:51,420
Yeah like that's the most he's 
alive is when he's yelling at 

857
00:51:51,420 --> 00:51:54,580
the crowd for booing him and 
like that kind of like robotic 

858
00:51:54,580 --> 00:51:55,940
self cleaning oven. 
Like it it. 

859
00:51:56,580 --> 00:51:58,700
I'm worried that that's what 
we're backing is going to turn 

860
00:51:58,700 --> 00:52:00,740
into. 
We're just like I will take this

861
00:52:00,740 --> 00:52:02,900
trophy and I will take this 
Dick. 

862
00:52:02,900 --> 00:52:06,200
It's just like just like take, 
take, take, doesn't matter. 

863
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,760
It's like hot dog down a 
hallway. 

864
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:13,800
It's just like it is not, it's 
not the romance of the game that

865
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,400
I love, it's that it's the 
bottom energy that I don't love.

866
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:18,920
What's our next category? 
Baby? 

867
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,120
So our next category is. 
These are a little more 

868
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,400
subjective because so far 
heretofore it's been pure 

869
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,280
science based, Pure for men, 
science based. 

870
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,210
So now the next one is pass 
around party bottom. 

871
00:52:35,530 --> 00:52:41,170
So who is the pass around party 
bottom of the WTA and the ATP, 

872
00:52:41,170 --> 00:52:44,690
the gay TP, the whatever. 
And you know just for a little 

873
00:52:44,690 --> 00:52:47,050
context, you know, it's the it's
that player who's at every 

874
00:52:47,050 --> 00:52:50,170
tournament they will, they will 
play double s with anybody 

875
00:52:50,170 --> 00:52:52,130
because they just want to play 
play, play like they're just 

876
00:52:52,130 --> 00:52:57,170
sort of like they're around. 
They will not say I've had it. 

877
00:52:58,130 --> 00:53:00,450
I mean. 
Immediately, you know, Yelena 

878
00:53:00,450 --> 00:53:06,570
Yankovic comes to mind on WTA 
Gaskey on the ATP. 

879
00:53:07,530 --> 00:53:12,690
Currently I'm going to have to 
say Dominic team yeah I I would 

880
00:53:12,690 --> 00:53:15,050
agree with that. 
I mean he's definitely put in 

881
00:53:15,050 --> 00:53:18,250
the miles as as some of those 
past around party bottoms do. 

882
00:53:18,970 --> 00:53:22,770
I, you know, for me it's it's 
more like the Feliciano Lopez's 

883
00:53:22,770 --> 00:53:23,970
and like I agree with the 
Gaskeys. 

884
00:53:23,970 --> 00:53:27,090
It's like the guys who just 
aren't going away. 

885
00:53:27,130 --> 00:53:30,990
It's it's, you know, it's it's 
all of these sort of slow burn, 

886
00:53:30,990 --> 00:53:34,630
long tail retirements that we're
like watching in real time. 

887
00:53:35,150 --> 00:53:37,790
Like the piece of their body 
falls off. 

888
00:53:37,790 --> 00:53:39,950
They keep going, they get, you 
know, injured. 

889
00:53:39,950 --> 00:53:41,990
They keep going. 
They can't walk. 

890
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:48,670
They keep going. 
Next category Next category is 

891
00:53:48,830 --> 00:53:53,950
straight up sloppiest bottom, so
this is the piggiest and this is

892
00:53:53,950 --> 00:53:58,170
open to interpretation. 
This is not and except for we 

893
00:53:58,170 --> 00:54:00,330
will never body shame. 
And we are absolutely not 

894
00:54:00,330 --> 00:54:02,530
talking about, like, body types 
or anything like that. 

895
00:54:03,090 --> 00:54:08,170
But the piggiest, the sloppiest,
botomiest players out there, and

896
00:54:08,170 --> 00:54:11,770
I'll go first because I just got
to say it goes to my man JJ 

897
00:54:11,770 --> 00:54:15,290
Wolf. 
He is just and he is. 

898
00:54:15,970 --> 00:54:23,240
His level of piggy mullet action
has reached new heights and new 

899
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:27,680
lows at the same time at the 
City Open it is great. 

900
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,000
Have you seen him? 
His hair. 

901
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,560
It's like it's Melanie Griffith 
and working girl. 

902
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,640
It is crazy what he is doing 
with his hair. 

903
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,400
I love it, but it's crazy if. 
You're saying he's rolling 

904
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,800
around in the mud? 
Paul, show me that mud pit 

905
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,190
because I want to get right in. 
Dive on in. 

906
00:54:44,190 --> 00:54:46,350
Yeah. 
Oh, he is just like he is just 

907
00:54:46,350 --> 00:54:52,830
there he is 3 slops in a bucket 
and one sty away from, you know,

908
00:54:52,830 --> 00:54:57,190
the County Fair. 
Next category next. 

909
00:54:57,790 --> 00:54:59,070
All right. 
Our final one. 

910
00:54:59,590 --> 00:55:03,470
Bossy is bottom. 
You know control free the 

911
00:55:03,710 --> 00:55:06,550
they're the ones you know like 
they want to be totally in 

912
00:55:06,550 --> 00:55:07,950
charge but they still want to 
bottom. 

913
00:55:07,950 --> 00:55:10,620
Like they they want to win like 
a top but they're a total 

914
00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:12,300
bottom. 
They're like no, stop. 

915
00:55:12,740 --> 00:55:14,340
You're doing it wrong. 
No, do it this way. 

916
00:55:14,420 --> 00:55:16,820
Ouch. 
They they complain a lot. 

917
00:55:17,060 --> 00:55:19,420
They cause a lot of drama on the
court. 

918
00:55:19,620 --> 00:55:24,100
Yeah, it's true. 
I also feel like they are expert

919
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:28,420
bottoms and so far as they, I 
feel like you're just trying to 

920
00:55:28,420 --> 00:55:32,780
stand up for Willie Mamson. 
Willie, Mamson, Willie, I are 

921
00:55:32,780 --> 00:55:36,020
close friends and I am his 
advocate. 

922
00:55:36,180 --> 00:55:37,940
We've talked about that. 
We've talked about those types 

923
00:55:37,940 --> 00:55:40,130
of bottoms. 
What you're describing is not 

924
00:55:40,130 --> 00:55:42,330
the bossy bottom. 
The bossy bottom is the control 

925
00:55:42,330 --> 00:55:45,770
freak who just wants to complain
and tell you that you're doing 

926
00:55:45,770 --> 00:55:48,730
it wrong. 
But they they tend to win. 

927
00:55:49,130 --> 00:55:52,210
It tends to work for them, Yeah,
of course. 

928
00:55:52,450 --> 00:55:56,850
Yeah, but it's still annoying. 
I do. 

929
00:55:56,850 --> 00:56:00,090
People get that way. 
Look, as you know, as you know, 

930
00:56:00,090 --> 00:56:04,290
bossy people get their way. 
Your good friend Mom Blunkholm 

931
00:56:04,890 --> 00:56:08,680
is a little bit bossy. 
Then Maul Blonde calls. 

932
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:09,720
Husband Tommy. 
Paul. 

933
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:17,440
Anyway, Bossiest bottoms. 
I'm going to give you 3, and 

934
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:18,800
you're going to have to choose 
the one. 

935
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,080
All right. 
We've got Holger Rune big old 

936
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,040
bossy bottom, We've got Jessica 
Pagula big old bossy bottom. 

937
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,560
And then we got Martina Hingis, 
who I think is the queen of all 

938
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,720
bossy bottoms, who was just. 
Like I'm I'm with you. 

939
00:56:37,110 --> 00:56:38,470
Hingis. 
Yeah. 

940
00:56:38,550 --> 00:56:40,670
Yeah. 
Oh well, what? 

941
00:56:40,870 --> 00:56:43,590
I don't think so. 
Why are you so quick to be into 

942
00:56:43,590 --> 00:56:44,230
that? 
Why? 

943
00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:46,390
Why? 
Why were you like Yes, her. 

944
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:56,790
Well. 
Because she never pretended to 

945
00:56:56,790 --> 00:57:01,390
be anything other than a bottom,
She was always bottoming. 

946
00:57:01,910 --> 00:57:07,250
And she was. 
Bottoming openly and she said, 

947
00:57:07,250 --> 00:57:11,690
she basically said at press 
conferences, I'm a bottom and 

948
00:57:11,730 --> 00:57:18,450
I'm being topped relentlessly. 
By Venus, by Serena by Lindsay 

949
00:57:18,810 --> 00:57:23,130
Big Babe tennis. 
But I'm still going to win 

950
00:57:24,050 --> 00:57:29,090
because I'm sneaky. 
I'm smart. 

951
00:57:29,930 --> 00:57:34,900
I'm bossy, yeah. 
I'm bossy, yeah. 

952
00:57:34,980 --> 00:57:42,540
And I'm also on cocaine. 
Famous trait of a bossy bottom. 

953
00:57:44,260 --> 00:57:46,420
All right, well, that's that's 
all the bottoms. 

954
00:57:46,420 --> 00:57:53,860
And you know, I got to say for 
an episode about Bottoms, I feel

955
00:57:53,860 --> 00:57:57,820
not at all smarter, but I had a 
great time talking about this 

956
00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:02,950
Billy. 
I I feel, I feel personally like

957
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:08,510
at least my my dear friend 
Willie Bamson who is is going to

958
00:58:08,510 --> 00:58:11,990
listen to this and feel 
empowered and that's all I want 

959
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:13,950
for him. 
Will you give me his number? 

960
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:17,150
Absolutely. 
I've got a I've got a fleet for 

961
00:58:17,150 --> 00:58:23,830
him, a Fritz's fleet. 
All right, well, that's our 

962
00:58:23,830 --> 00:58:26,750
show. 
We'll be back in less than two 

963
00:58:26,750 --> 00:58:28,430
weeks. 
We're going to get into some 

964
00:58:28,890 --> 00:58:35,050
hardcore court action. 
I am on the edge of my bottomy 

965
00:58:35,050 --> 00:58:37,730
seat. 
I'm on the edge of my fleet. 

966
00:58:38,290 --> 00:58:40,610
All right, folks. 
Well, thanks so much for joining

967
00:58:40,610 --> 00:58:42,130
in. 
Hope you enjoyed it and we will 

968
00:58:42,130 --> 00:58:45,050
see you or at least talk at you 
real soon.