1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,160 It's time for let's get some ground strokes Baseline. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,240 It's top spin. That's LGBT. 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:15,000 Have a listen. Make signals with the ball boys. 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,160 Hey everybody, and welcome to the latest episode of The Ball 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,640 Boys. We are the tennis podcast that 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,400 puts the kit in etiquette and the tour in Taurus. 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,280 I'm your host, Paul Monkholm, bringing you the insights, 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,480 outbursts, giggles and wiggles of the ATP and WTA tours. 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,360 And you just heard our new theme song written by yours truly. 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:46,520 And in case you missed it, we spell out LGBT with Let's ground 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,960 strokes, bass lines and top spin. 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,000 Because if you ask me, there just aren't enough songs in the 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,480 queer tennis genre. A huge shout out to Blake 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,120 Drummond and his husband Dan, who produced and performed it. 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,040 And if you're interested, you can go check it out on our 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,520 Instagram page and play it at the gym for a nice 22 second 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,960 pump. Of course, our Instagram is at 18 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:09,200 TBB Tennis. That's at TBB Tennis. 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,040 And while you're there, let me know. 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,480 Can you name the grunt he used at the beginning of the song? 21 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,840 She's pretty iconic. Now, before we get into the 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,960 show, I want to address something that happened at the 23 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:22,840 men's final. As you know, Donald Trump's eye 24 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,160 to attend the Open. And word came out that the USTA 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,240 told networks not to air any bad reactions to him. 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,240 Look, I don't want him anywhere near the open, but he has a 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,160 right to go. This is America, but he should 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,720 also reap what he sows. And if he wants to go to New 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,560 York City right now, well, that's a choice that he's going 30 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,280 to make. But for the USTA to preemptively 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,160 decide that they are not going to show what's happening in ASH 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,920 is a level of complicity and normalization that is just 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,040 unacceptable. I mean, what's next? 34 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Are we going to rename Court 17 to be Donald Trump Arena, or 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,560 hell, maybe even one of the younger ones? 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,840 Look, I know we're just a silly tennis show and there's a 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,960 million things going on in the world that we can't fix. 38 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,280 But what we can do is call bullshit when it's in our court. 39 00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:11,160 So USTA, come on, you got to do better. 40 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:16,080 OK, that's my little soapbox. And let's get back to the show. 41 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,040 Have some fun, people. It's the end of the summer. 42 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,120 It's time to pack up the Speedos, which honestly might be 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,280 pretty good for me because over the last two weeks of watching 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,160 as much tennis as possible, my body has fully atrophied. 45 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,880 I think another disc degenerated just out of sheer boredom, and 46 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,120 things felt a little Great Gatsby ish this year, taking us 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,280 back to the roaring 20s with vulgar prices, ostentatious 48 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,840 behavior, $100 chicken Nuggets. Though to be honest, I'm not 49 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,480 sure what else I would expect from the roaring Twenty 20s 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,960 except for vulgar prices, ostentatious behavior, and $100 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,800 chicken Nuggets. Except now we have influencers 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,560 filling the stands and rage baiting all the real fans at 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,040 home. But Speaking of roaring, the 54 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,760 women were making the most noise this year. 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,680 And I, for one, fucking loved it. 56 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,800 The women delivered the tension, the drama, the star power. 57 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,520 I might have actually turned WT gay. 58 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,120 Because also, when we look at the men's side, we all sort of 59 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,240 knew where we'd end up on final Sunday. 60 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:21,480 So a lot of the matches had less tension than the lacrosse 61 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,880 unboxing videos on TikTok. And so on today's episode, we're 62 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,160 unboxing all of the action out of Flushing. 63 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,520 I'm putting my head together with one of our favorite ball 64 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,920 boys. He no longer puts the beard in 65 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:35,840 Thomas Bearditch because he's back to his fresh faced boyish 66 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,720 charms. It's Matthew Coleman. 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,720 Hey, Matthew, how are you? I'm great, Paul, I'm feeling 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,320 like $100 chicken nugget. Yeah, just a just a little 69 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,520 caviar little Creme fresh. Yeah, that actually was my that 70 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,320 was my my nickname on the street. 71 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,960 A Creme Fresh. $100 chicken nugget. 72 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,800 It's a long nickname. So you shaved. 73 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,480 I feel like you're pulling like a bit of an Alcaraz how he just 74 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,640 shocked the world when he came out shaved. 75 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,680 I mean, you shocked the world last episode with a with a Paul 76 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,480 Bunyan beard, a Wolverine full face of of beautiful beardedness 77 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,840 and now you've shaved. What happened? 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,079 Why did you shave? I mean, nothing good can last 79 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:19,279 forever. You've got to. 80 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,720 You've got to keep people on their toes. 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,440 But I don't know, I feel unburdened somehow. 82 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,400 Like I feel like I've been reset to my factory settings. 83 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,720 Just in time for the new iPhone launch. 84 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:35,520 Well, I shaved as well in honor of this 'cause I just thought, 85 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,200 OK, we're going to do. I really look in honor of Carlos 86 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,960 Alcaraz. Everyone go out there and shave 87 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,320 something right now. I don't care what it is, but it 88 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,680 it works apparently. You shave something up top or 89 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,560 down bottom. Look, it's it's dealer's choice. 90 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,080 If you're, if you're serving up top, if you're returning down 91 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,840 there, how are you recovering from the US Open? 92 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:59,080 It was a long, it was a long couple of weeks, you. 93 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,320 Know I guess, but to be honest with you, this one felt breezy 94 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,360 to me. I think not having a 5 hour 95 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,120 final like on either side made a big difference. 96 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,120 Like lightly competitive that that's kind of the vibe that I 97 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,400 want by the end of the week. Like I I just don't have the 98 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,440 energy for an absolute barn stomper. 99 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,400 Yeah, it is true. I was, I was going to, and I'm 100 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,720 going to talk about it in a second, but I, I, I helped host 101 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,160 a little viewing party at high tops with out loud sports and 102 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,800 Out loud tennis. And I was worried. 103 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,520 I was like, am I going to be able to last 5 1/2 hours 104 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:42,400 standing watching on a screen? I was like, I need to book a 105 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,760 massage afterwards. I need to be ready. 106 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,680 But yeah, we didn't have that. It was, yeah, it was easy, 107 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,960 breezy, beautiful cover girl. Just a few bits of housekeeping 108 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,720 from the last episode. So someone pointed out rightly 109 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:02,520 that when it comes to cross court it's RBG, not RGB, which I 110 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,760 kept saying, and I think you might have said it too, 'cause 111 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,880 it's just, I think we don't. Pin your mistakes on me. 112 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Paul, I'm not blaming you. I'm just I think it's a 113 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,080 teachable moment. But yes, it is Ruth Bader 114 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,800 Ginsburg, not Ruth Gator Binsburg. 115 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,680 But I kind of love that. If I was going to be like a drag 116 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,760 queen judge, I would definitely be Ruth Gator Binsburg. 117 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,640 What's that, Goonsburg? Well, I mean, I should have 118 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,680 known that someone would catch it because at least a few people 119 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,400 out there are familiar with the Baders. 120 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,400 So it's Ruth Bader Ginsburg. But if I mess it up again, you 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,760 know, sue me, I'll see you in court. 122 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,960 And Matthew, Congrats on winning one of our brackets. 123 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,880 You killed it. What's your secret? 124 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:48,240 You keep zigging when I zag and zagging when I zig. 125 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,240 And I got I I was horrible in this bracket this year. 126 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,400 I think I came in last except for chat. 127 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,960 GBTI still beat the robot. This year my vibe has been I 128 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,800 just want to go with my favorites and, and I want to 129 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,880 choose chaos and, and I think secretly I'm hoping that the 130 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,640 people that I've chosen lose early so that I can just stop 131 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,600 feeling so emotionally invested in the outcome of the matches. 132 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,160 I agree. I mean, so I, I thought I was 133 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,720 like AI thought I was. I made the perfect bracket after 134 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,320 one round. I was doing really, really well 135 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,960 and then I just completely crapped out. 136 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,320 And you're right, I felt so much better afterwards. 137 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,680 I was like, OK, now I can just watch for the tennis. 138 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,680 It's an unburdening. It really is. 139 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,920 Yeah, I don't have to then send death threats to the players 140 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,600 like those people who bet on the matches and then lose. 141 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,240 So yeah, shoot your shot, just like Hogaruna shoots a shot with 142 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,240 any Russian player apparently, which just came out. 143 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:49,280 Did you watch any double S like cross court sentence to us too 144 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,560 in the last episode? Matthew Coleman. 145 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:57,240 I'm. Thinking. 146 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,880 I'm trying to think if I watched like. 147 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,400 Are you in contempt? Townsend Siniakova I don't think 148 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,120 I did. I'm trying to think if I watched 149 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,680 Paolini and Irani I. Don't think I did. 150 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,840 And Siniakova play Venus and Fernandez. 151 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,440 I think I saw some cliffs. Wow, I. 152 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,560 Don't know. I got, I got, I got places to be 153 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,520 and people to see. Like what do you want from it? 154 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,560 I I want you to serve your term so the court is finding you in 155 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,760 contempt. I'm not picking a fight with 156 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,320 double s. I love double s. 157 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,640 But like, yeah, don't, don't police my viewing habits. 158 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,799 Look, I'm just saying that we had a deal, that this is what 159 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:40,559 the the court had ordered. And I mean, come on, we cannot 160 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,720 not talk about just the star power of Venus Williams mixed 161 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,600 with the incredible tale of Taylor Townsend colliding in the 162 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,240 double SI mean. They packed that that Louis 163 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,160 Armstrong like I was so happy for them. 164 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,320 And again, the women carried the US Open. 165 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,320 It was the storylines and double S the storylines and singles. 166 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,640 It was all about the women 'cause there was really just one 167 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,080 storyline for the men. And and we're going to get into 168 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,320 all of that in a second. But first, we are going to start 169 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:13,120 with our lobs beans. And as a reminder, the Lobsvian 170 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,000 is that thing that makes you a little gayer for tennis since 171 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,480 the last show. And honestly, we could have an 172 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,160 entire show of Lobsvians. I, I made a post of sort of the 173 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,760 week 1 Lobsvians and it was everything from Naomi's little 174 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,320 Boo boos to the men's little black kits, like the little 175 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,440 black dress that they were wearing at nights. 176 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,320 There was just an extra level of camp of drama of just crazy 177 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,480 looks this this entire time. But I've got 3 or 4 lobs beings 178 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,480 and I'm just going to quickly review them. 179 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,120 Lobs being #1 the women's semi final night. 180 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,200 That night was the best night of tennis I've had all year, men 181 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,280 and women. It had every archetype, it had 182 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,160 every narrative. The performances just left me 183 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,920 with my mouth wide open. I, I ate it up. 184 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,320 Loved it. Second one, the pre match puppy 185 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,920 cams of Yannick Sinner and Carlos Alcaraz. 186 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,000 So the network's kept showing clips of them, what they were 187 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,400 doing for the match and these really adorable ways that they 188 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,480 were warming up. Like you never knew, Like maybe 189 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,360 they're taking a nap, maybe they're playing with their 190 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,640 coaches or roughhousing. They're playing games. 191 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,120 Like I was like, this is literally like the puppy bowl. 192 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,120 I was ready to go down to a kennel and adopt one of them 193 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,680 today. The next one is the wags. 194 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,400 I I know it's a little inconsistent with some of the 195 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,360 things I'm going to say on the show today, but I was really 196 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,520 into the wags is open, specifically morgues. 197 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,960 Morgues has won me over. I'm turning into a wag hag. 198 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,480 I love everything that morgue is doing. 199 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,960 Also because her politics are correct and and that's really 200 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,360 important. And she's not afraid to talk 201 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,480 about what a piece of utter garbage Trump is. 202 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,560 And then the last one just today, Holger Rune being called 203 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:53,160 out by Anna Kalinskaya and having a little Twitter war 204 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,280 where she says that he's been sliding into her DMS something 205 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,280 like 10 times and he's saying he's just commenting on her post 206 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,800 and you'll know if he's asking you out. 207 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,280 I love this sort of post big tournament lols where it just 208 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,600 gets back to the the less important fuzziness around the 209 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,200 ball. So those are the lobs beings, 210 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,400 every single one of them. I loved Matthew Coleman. 211 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,480 What's your lobs being? 1st, I just want to say I feel 212 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,920 like everybody always piles on to Taruna. 213 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,520 I know and I think he likes it. I think he might have a little 214 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,480 bit of a humiliation kink you. Feel like a beta cock? 215 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,320 I don't know, like maybe No, I actually like I feel like he he 216 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,320 rolls with it as well as can be expected, which I give him props 217 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,840 for. Russian women. 218 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,960 I mean, we know his type. Yeah, I feel like I have two 219 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:46,120 lobster fans. One is the that moment from the 220 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:51,760 Sabalenka Fernandez match when that created that GIF of arena 221 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,560 arena like her face kind of going through like the five 222 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:59,960 stages of grief because like as a as a gay man, we know I love 223 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:02,960 to speak in meme. And that gave just gave me more 224 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,800 fuel for the fire. And then I would say my second 225 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,040 lob's being you know, I'm just like you might expect this from 226 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,800 me, but the the Townsend Krichik of a match, because what is what 227 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,240 is gayer than than coming from behind? 228 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,600 Well, Sir, you, you couldn't have said it better. 229 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,160 Yeah, that match that was. That was that was high drama. 230 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,600 Like I'm not saying it was the at all times the highest quality 231 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,880 tennis match, but matches like that are why I watch tennis and 232 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,920 like specifically slams. Like like the energy in that 233 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,040 stadium. Oh my God, it was electric from 234 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,560 the couch. I felt it. 235 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,320 The players in the warm up area were watching on monitors like 236 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,160 during that that second set tie break, like they were wrapped. 237 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:52,600 It was insane. And honestly, Krajikova's got 238 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,640 ice in her veins. I don't think a lot of people 239 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,800 would have been able to keep compose for eight match points 240 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,120 the way she did. I was like, oh, this is your 241 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,320 secret weapon? And I feel like all the Czech 242 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,160 girls are kind of like that. Like they don't get fazed 243 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,800 because it wasn't that Taylor lost those match points. 244 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:17,000 Barb's won those match points. She was hitting winners she was 245 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,120 going for. She wasn't like she wasn't going 246 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,920 to get cautious and just like play scared. 247 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,400 OK, so your answer is none of my Lobstians. 248 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,760 Great, great, great, great. So we've got 6 Lobstians. 249 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,320 Those are all the things that made us a little gayer for 250 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,360 tennis. And hey, listeners, you don't 251 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,080 have to be gay to listen to the ball boys. 252 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,920 You don't have to be a boy, but you got to be gay for tennis. 253 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,240 So what made you a little gayer for tennis from the US Open? 254 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,760 Let us know. Hit us up. 255 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:47,040 Now it is time for twit and that is this week in tennis, covering 256 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,080 the news, the dudes, the feuds of tour. 257 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,960 And just a reminder, we can't possibly cover every match. 258 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,640 I mean we would have needed to do a show a day. 259 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,560 There were so many goddamn stories. 260 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,920 And so if you're coming to us for the latest scores, you're 261 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:04,680 going to be as disappointed or more disappointed then I was in 262 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:07,200 Rolex for inviting Trump to their box. 263 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,560 Because in case you were wondering, that's who invited 264 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:11,920 Donald Trump. It was Rolex, by the way, at 265 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,000 high tops when we were talking. When we found that out, we all 266 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,520 collectively took our Rolexes off, put them on the ground and 267 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,960 rolled over them like they did with the Dixie Chick albums 268 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,720 after, after what they said about President Bush back in the 269 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,000 2000s. So no more Rolexes. 270 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,440 I want you all to take your Rolexes off. 271 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,040 It's only fair, OK. That is, you're really a man of 272 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,640 the people, Paul. Yeah, look, sorry, I will no 273 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,880 longer be sponsored by them. I will no longer be going to 274 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,960 their Rolex lounges or, you know, eating off of their 275 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,040 silverware. I'm just kidding. 276 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,320 I can't even spell Rolex. I'm more like Alaska Talks. 277 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,880 But OK, the final Slam, yes, it's ended finally. 278 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,040 And for me, and I think that we have a different opinion on 279 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,360 this, Matthew. But for me, even just adding one 280 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,760 more day to it, plus the whole mixed double S thing made it 281 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,320 feel like the longest Slam ever. I mean, remember like when 282 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,840 Medvedev crashed out or when Novak's toe was on the big 283 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,560 screen or when Venus played singles and Ash? 284 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,520 That was this tournament. And in my mind, that feels like 285 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,560 so long ago. That feels like earlier in the 286 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,000 summer. And but somehow that was this 287 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,680 tournament. And also some things that 288 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,640 happened in this tournament might be better left forgotten. 289 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,640 Maybe we need to just forget about Stefan Ositsipas and his 290 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,760 campaign in 2025. Or Maria Zachary's magician 291 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,320 assistant kit. Did you see her outfit? 292 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,400 Yeah. What the hell was that? 293 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,280 Wait. Remind me, is she Adidas or Y-3? 294 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,000 Oh, it's Y three. Yeah, yeah, it's Y-3. 295 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,920 Yeah. I mean, Y-3, those Y-3 kits, 296 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,000 like there were some interesting choices made, Let's just say 297 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,440 that. But I feel like some of them, 298 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,400 like, like Lukova got the cute Y threes and then they're like 299 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,240 here, here, Maria, this is what we have for you now because 300 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,440 you're ranked 68th in the world. I mean, the one that Felix was 301 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,800 wearing and some of the other players looked like it had a big 302 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:07,800 oop stain on the side, like it was like the the brown BLOB for 303 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,760 our listeners contacts. So I I am not someone who has 304 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,200 been into tennis all my life. I actually got into tennis in 305 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,760 2020, like during the COVID USO. You're a COVID baby. 306 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:23,000 Yeah, I'm a COVID baby. And I was my eyes were blessed 307 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:29,760 by the sight of these fantastic Andre Agassi inspired like retro 308 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,760 Nike kits that year. Do you remember? 309 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,480 It's like, like Vika was wearing that, like the, like, he looked 310 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,960 like swirly. It's like they were, they were 311 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,880 beautiful, They were fashionable, They were iconic. 312 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,960 And it's like, I feel like throughout my the heights of my 313 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,320 tennis fandom, it has been a slow decline. 314 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,200 Not Wilson. Give Wilson props. 315 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,280 Wilson is killing it. Killing it Marta Kostiak and 316 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:59,560 Wilson stunning she. She rocks that kit too. 317 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,360 Yeah. I mean, like, not to not to we, 318 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,480 we don't objectify women on this podcast, but like she is 319 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,040 slamming in that kit. See what I did there? 320 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,960 Yeah, you objectified, woman. Good job. 321 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,000 Now we're going to get cancelled. 322 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,400 Oh my God, We got to throw in Nike for people who are kind of 323 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,280 hauling off of the mark because they had all four finalists 324 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,640 wearing Nike and they were the least interesting things to look 325 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,160 at. I mean, the colors were 326 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,160 interesting on the men. Like, I like the colors, 327 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,760 particularly Carlos. I mean, you know. 328 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:35,600 I like the I like the beat. I like the beat. 329 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,880 I like the, I liked his muscles, but it was really, yeah, it was 330 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,640 really underwhelming. It was kind of like an it was. 331 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,000 I feel like their design team is not focused on tennis anymore, 332 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,760 or at least not right now. So Matthew, we did make some 333 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,840 predictions in the last episode. We got them all totally correct, 334 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,680 right? Might have been a mixed bag. 335 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,800 I think we got the important ones right. 336 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,520 I think we we knew that that Medvedev was going to crash out, 337 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,240 crash out. Like I thought that Pagula was 338 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,600 going to crash out early, which proved to be about as wrong as 339 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,440 you can get. She amazed me the 1st 4:00 or so 340 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,360 rounds even into the quarters. Where's that girl been? 341 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:18,960 He's had some high highs this year, like when she beat Eaga, 342 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,640 but it's like, yeah, this year has been a little bit iffy for 343 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,360 her when you really look at all the results. 344 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,560 Oh, yeah, no, she didn't have a great summer. 345 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,720 She didn't really do much. And so I was not expecting 346 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,720 anything. I was I, I, I agreed because, 347 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,760 yeah, I mean you. Said you said Coco, which was 348 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,960 which was more more on the money. 349 00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:44,240 She was able to to win ugly as as like she can, but she, you 350 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,040 know, ran out of she ran out of chances at a certain point. 351 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Yeah, I mean, she, she got further than than I thought she 352 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,840 was going to get for sure. Yeah, but we also both wouldn't 353 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,160 have been surprised if Carlos had been upset by O Palka. 354 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,680 Yeah, that. Oh, that's true. 355 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,680 And that was that was really. I take credit for that, too. 356 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,400 Like that. I, I was being bold. 357 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,760 I thought, I thought O Palka was going to break his rhythm. 358 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:13,640 And it's like Carlos showed me something this year Like he I I 359 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,960 kind of forget that he had won five slams before this. 360 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,400 You know, I, I got to put some respect on this man's name, but 361 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:26,000 I just I keep thinking that he's this player who is like the 362 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,280 highlight reel player. He's he's not always kind of 363 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,920 fully committed to the win. He kind of will just he wants to 364 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,200 play the way he wants to play. But like, dude is locked in like 365 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,160 he is. He is on a whole another plane 366 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,800 at this point. Yeah, well, and we're going to 367 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,000 get to to the the actual finals in a second. 368 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,920 But I I also think that it was unfair for any of our 369 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,720 predictions to to be held to any standard because we made them 370 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,840 before that buzz cut. And when that was revealed, that 371 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,480 changed everything because I never would have called for an 372 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,000 upset after seeing that prison yard rough boy. 373 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,560 I loved the the mix of like, he looked rough, but then he was 374 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,440 wearing pink. He was like a pink lady in his 375 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,000 little satin jacket. But then he was like shaved head 376 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,920 tough boy. What did you think of the buzz 377 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,280 cut? I thought it looked real weird 378 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,240 the first couple days where he there was kind of this like 379 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,800 division line on his head where it's like it kind of, well, kind 380 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,880 of looked like it looked like it was like a mistake in the I 381 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,640 think his scalp just has a certain anatomy. 382 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,560 His hair looked better and better as the week went on and 383 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,280 just as his tennis, I feel like frankly, got better and better 384 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,480 as the week went on. Yeah, I, I, I loved it so much. 385 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,000 I was like, he needs to keep doing that. 386 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,960 And it's funny because like literally as we're speaking 387 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,960 right now, they are live blogging what he's doing to his 388 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,760 hair because he's now, the last I saw, he has a white blonde. 389 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,920 He had a picture he posted with a a platinum blonde like ladies 390 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,760 wig, which I think he was. I think he was giving a little 391 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,720 wink to his audience, like just wait. 392 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,520 Yeah, I hope it's not a tennis ball caller though. 393 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,640 I don't want him to walk around with a tennis ball on his head. 394 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,480 I want just a platinum. Ball done too much lately. 395 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,600 It's like Diallo did it like I feel like like born a Gojo did 396 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,600 it. I just I've seen it a couple 397 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,560 different places like Carlos, you're an iconoclast March to 398 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:21,800 the beat your own drum a. 100% OK, let's get to the results a 399 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,920 little bit. The US Open was definitely a 400 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,760 return to big Babe tennis for the men and the women. 401 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,840 Alcaraz really overpowered Sinner with his serve. 402 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,880 He moved Sinner around the court like he was on a string. 403 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,520 We saw Sabalenka with standing in a Somovus power, which is not 404 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,680 a small feat, and then really asserting herself in the end. 405 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:45,000 And, and I think as we all have found out in the last few days 406 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,880 thanks to social media, Carlos and Arena have the same 407 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,480 birthday. They're both born on May 5th, 5 408 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,400 years apart. He's younger by five years, and 409 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,160 that makes them both Tauruses, which sounds about right. 410 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,840 You know, they're stubborn. They're relentless. 411 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,040 They're really good at social media. 412 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,080 Did you know that they had the same birthday, Matthew, Was that 413 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,760 news to you or? You know what? 414 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,440 You know everything. No, no, no. 415 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,640 But but I I had a ghost of a memory of it because there was 416 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,080 that one tournament, I think it was Madrid, where there was 417 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,600 controversy because Carlos got this gigantic cake on court. 418 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,400 It was like an encore birthday ceremony. 419 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,680 And then the next day, like, Sabalenka got like a like a tiny 420 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,840 little cake in her. Yeah, in her for hotel room and 421 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,320 people are like the hypocrisy and then but I mean so they're 422 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,200 credit it's like OK, well this is his like home tournament. 423 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,880 So I like there might be a little bit more energy around 424 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,000 that, but. It was the Belarusian Open. 425 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,880 It would be different, yeah. Yeah, but I did. 426 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,240 I don't think I knew. Like their birthday is literally 427 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,080 the same day. 55 Yeah. And they do seem like Tauruses, 428 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,840 like I So I'm a Scorpio and so famously, I don't really follow 429 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,520 anyone else's star signs because that's what Scorpios do. 430 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,760 But I think a tourist like, yeah, they're they're bull. 431 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,760 Like they're stubborn, right? They're like they push you 432 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,240 around. They're relentless. 433 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,720 Like I see that in their game style. 434 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,160 What are you? What's what's dash sign are you? 435 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,520 I'm an Aries, but I'm a terrible Aries. 436 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:13,000 I'm I'm such so incompatible in terms of my traits with what 437 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,240 areas are supposed to be. It makes me question the the 438 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,440 entire integrity. Entire universe. 439 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Yeah. What? 440 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,240 What's an area supposed to be and what are you? 441 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,920 Aries is like, very, very headstrong. 442 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,880 The impulsive takes charge. I don't. 443 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,840 Know, I don't know about that. I feel like I feel like a water 444 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,360 sign. I'm more of a Pisces. 445 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:36,240 I'm kind of go with the flow. I just want a vibe. 446 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,960 All vibes over there. I love that. 447 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,520 So I was rooting for for Sinner and Anna Somova most of the 448 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:48,160 finals I'll be honest. But the the post win coverage of 449 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,960 Carlos and Arena really won me over. 450 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,040 Seeing them together and also separately on different like 451 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,520 media events, it's been so fun, so entertaining. 452 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,440 Like they were on the Today show together where she accidentally 453 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,120 called him Yannick for a split second. 454 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he laughed it off. 455 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:08,000 I mean, they like they, they're, they're bringing the same 456 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,600 energy, you know, they're matching each other's freak and 457 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,480 and they're, they're giggly, like they're a fun pairing. 458 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,600 It works as kind of representatives of the the peak 459 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,520 of the sport. I couldn't imagine if it had 460 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,840 been Amanda and Sinner, whoever, I love them both, but if they 461 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,920 were filming Tik Toks together, If they were on The Tonight Show 462 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,120 together, I don't know if it would have been nearly as 463 00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:35,360 entertaining. Carlos and and Arena are the 464 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:41,160 stars and I think that following the extreme media attention on 465 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,720 this year's Open for a number of reasons, they were the ones to 466 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,040 carry on as the Champions of the US Open. 467 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,200 So totally agree. Well, I think they make it fun 468 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:57,040 and and tennis like slams can be a bit of a grind. 469 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,000 Like we were saying they're long, especially like this one, 470 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,800 it's towards the end of the season, everybody's tired. 471 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,240 Like players are retiring. I mean, there were some on court 472 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,600 spats. It's like, it's like tennis, 473 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,200 it's the best sport, but it's tough sometimes. 474 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,000 And I feel like when you have players who are fun and weird 475 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,480 and bring a lot of joy, like on and off court it it's sort of 476 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,240 like lightens the mood a little bit. 477 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,320 And I think if it had been like a repeat of, you know, an ego 478 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,440 and Yannick, like Wimbledon, I just don't, I think the energy 479 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,960 would have kind of evaporated a little bit. 480 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,240 And that's not a knock on them. I love both of those players. 481 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,000 But like, I needed, these are the players I needed to win. 482 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,240 I'm going to say that I I I was pulling for both of them in the 483 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,880 in both their respective matches. 484 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,240 Overall, this tournament was definitely carried by the women 485 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,400 in terms of the match quality, the action, the stories. 486 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,840 I mean, just listing them off. We had Naomi's resurgence, Naomi 487 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,800 Osaka had a great run, we had Taylor's run, Taylor Townsend, 488 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,600 we had Venus Williams just kind of everywhere on every court. 489 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:12,920 Coco's breakdown. I mean I didn't love watching it 490 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:19,440 but seeing her on Ash crying during changeover shaking was 491 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,360 really hard to watch. Are you talking about the Vekic 492 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,520 match? Yeah. 493 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,120 Her hands were shaking into her towel. 494 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:26,040 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 495 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:28,800 I was like, I don't, I don't like, I don't know what to do 496 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,040 here. And, and I give her such props 497 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,200 for her media afterwards. She was like, yeah, I'm a human 498 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,000 being and I was having a human experience. 499 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,640 Like I, I would not have loved to have had that type of 500 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,480 emotional output in front of 25,000 people. 501 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,360 And she just like, she's a fucking bad ass. 502 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:51,080 She needs to fix a lot on her bio mechanics, but but she's a 503 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,600 badass mentally. And we also had the Czech girls, 504 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,880 the critique of us, the Von Rusevas, the milk of us, the ice 505 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,520 in their veins. And honestly, it was kind of 506 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,160 interesting because I felt like for most of the two weeks of the 507 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,480 tournament, we didn't hear much about Arena. 508 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,960 Like there wasn't, I mean, she missed her quarterfinal because 509 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,720 Von Ruseva pulled out, but I felt like the attention of the 510 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,640 media just wasn't really on her. Like did I miss something or was 511 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,320 she kind of under the radar the whole time? 512 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,600 No, I think she was. She was largely cruising through 513 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,240 matches as she should. There were moments of, of her 514 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,080 match with, with Layla that were a bit of a battle. 515 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,800 There were like individual little pockets. 516 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,440 But sometimes I feel like that happens with the the top seeds. 517 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,760 But I will say that the undercurrent of this tournament 518 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,200 that I, that in retrospect, I really enjoyed is it felt like 519 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,760 some of the some of the people who had energy around them in 520 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:49,920 like 2021-2022, 2023, they were coming and saying we're not done 521 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,760 yet. You know, they're like, they're, 522 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,040 they're who. Who are you talking about? 523 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,160 I'm talking about Krachikova. I'm talking I'm talking about 524 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,640 Naomi. I'm talking about even like a 525 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,400 von Druseva. I'm talking about FAA, who, you 526 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,720 know, hadn't made a semi final in what, at the US Open three 527 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,880 years. Everybody's ready to pass the 528 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,840 baton to this next generation. And, you know, on the women's 529 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,040 side, you know, the Mira Andreva and Clara Towson and some of 530 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,440 those. Passing Andy Mclara Towson. 531 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,800 Okay, give her a little bit of credit. 532 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,400 But it's like, you know, the the players who were coming in, they 533 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,920 had great, had great seasons, great couple seasons, a lot of 534 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,400 buzz around them. And like, I don't like, I don't 535 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,880 like players getting left behind. 536 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,520 I don't like, I don't like, I like players who are saying, no, 537 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,000 I'm rallying. I'm taking my chances when I 538 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,800 can. Like, like, don't forget about 539 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,400 me. And so it felt like there were 540 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,640 resurgences this tournament that were a bit unexpected. 541 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,040 Did you expect von Druseva to go as deep as she did? 542 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,640 Did you expect Krichikova, who's played like like 1 1/2 543 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,320 tournaments this year, to go as deep as she did? 544 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,920 No. I agree. 545 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,080 And I, I think we've talked about this on shows that you've 546 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,560 been on where it's just it's hard to invest in players when 547 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,680 they have like a big run because you might never hear from them 548 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,080 again. And it's like, well, I'm going 549 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,360 to learn your name and then you're never going to see them 550 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,240 again. But then these are all players 551 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,560 that you mentioned who there's been a level of investment of 552 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,120 like, OK, they won a Grand Slam or they've had, they've been in 553 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,200 the top ten. It's like seeing an old friend. 554 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,880 It's like, oh, yeah. And and to answer your question, 555 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,680 like any time that von Druseva, Kratikova or Mukova is healthy, 556 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,000 I do expect them to make a run. It's just you never know if 557 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,240 their back is going to be broken and or you know the wrist or the 558 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,040 ankle or the whatever. And I think that's the root of 559 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,960 it. That's the root of why I love, I 560 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,600 love to see them thrive is because I don't like thinking of 561 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,920 tennis as a sport in which talent is so heavily 562 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,880 bottlenecked by physicality and injury. 563 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,600 And I just, I feel like they're been, that has been the the 564 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,760 landscape, like the feeling of tennis the last couple years is 565 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,840 like talent has not been able to to thrive on tour just because 566 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,520 people are too broken. Their. 567 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,520 Body, their bodies are broken and and it's kind of depressing. 568 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,320 Yeah, and we did have a ton of withdrawals, retirements, pull 569 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,360 outs on the men's side, as always, The the man just they've 570 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,600 got the constitution of Victorian children. 571 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,760 Everything just hurts. OK, to be fair, they're the ones 572 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,680 playing five sets of tennis, you know, Which I do think makes a. 573 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,720 Difference 4 * a year. I mean, it's not like they're 574 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,680 playing five sets in and out every week. 575 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,640 I mean, and this was like the second round retirements, third 576 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,440 round retirements. I mean, you know, and I'm not 577 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,120 saying, I'm not saying it's because they're, they're 578 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,280 necessarily at fault for that, but it's, I mean something needs 579 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,360 to change. And I do believe that what needs 580 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,200 to change is the equipment. It's just like the Olympics when 581 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,920 they used to have those swimsuits where you were head to 582 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,480 toe in spandex breaking world records left and right. 583 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:55,960 They were like, now we're not going to do that anymore. 584 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,160 They've got these rackets in these strings that, you know, 585 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,920 honestly caused the ball to go so much faster than it used to. 586 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,160 It's breaking everybody's wrists, elbows, shoulders, 587 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,960 necks, backs. I mean, that's that's the 588 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,200 solution in my mind. But you know. 589 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,840 Sing it Kia. We'll get to that. 590 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,520 My back, my wrist is under attack. 591 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,920 That's the new theme song. Done, done. 592 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,440 But real quick, I just want to talk about the women's final of 593 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,640 Amanda versus Arena and just get your overall take on it. 594 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,440 I mean, it's funny, it only happened three days ago. 595 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,000 It feels like so long ago, in the past, so much has happened 596 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,040 since. It was a good match. 597 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,960 It was a 2 setter arena wins. I was team Amanda just for that 598 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,440 full redemption arc. I was so relieved when she got 599 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,040 on the board like, OK, she won a game because I think she was 600 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,960 broken the first, her first service game. 601 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,160 And that's like, Oh no, the, the, the, the curse is 602 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,920 continuing. But then she really had a shot, 603 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,560 her backhand that she hits faster than the men. 604 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,160 Stunning give give her her 10s on the back end. 605 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,680 I mean, that's a lot. That's my like all time laws 606 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,800 being just like watching that like smack like an an inside out 607 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,520 or an outside in backhand like. I still prefer a a Victoria 608 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,000 Golovich backhand, but like, whatever, that's just me. 609 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,040 Of course I'm the one. I'm the one who always has to 610 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,880 bring Gola Bitch into the. Conversation every. 611 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,480 I feel like you have like a deal with her. 612 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,840 Like I'll mention your name every show. 613 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,920 Yeah. Yeah, she's you. 614 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,360 Lose the best. Slipping me 50s every time I I 615 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,680 say her name. What did you take in the final? 616 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,760 I I thought it was a really, really good match. 617 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,320 I thought it I thought it was a great few sets of tennis. 618 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,160 Was is it an all time classic for the books? 619 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,920 No Were were the two of them playing at their peak or were 620 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,000 they even incredibly consistent throughout the match? 621 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,480 No, but what I but that's fine. I don't think it needed any of 622 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,000 that. I feel like it was an incredibly 623 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,440 competitive match and I feel like they were pushing each 624 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,400 other like there was in the final set, there was there was a 625 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,240 whole stretch where I felt like they kept breaking and breaking 626 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,280 each other back. And like, I love seeing that. 627 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,440 So I thought the narrative of the match was great. 628 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,400 And like I said, I I, I would have loved if Amanda had won. 629 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,360 That is the subtext of all these matches is I had my preferences, 630 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,040 but I thought, I thought it was really exciting people in the 631 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,760 finals and people who really deserve to be there. 632 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,120 So I would have been thrilled to everyone. 633 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,880 But yeah, I I feel like Amanda got her redemption in this 634 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,480 tournament. She beat Eaga in straight sets. 635 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,720 She played a really competitive match against Sablanca and she 636 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,200 she showed she can make two major finals in a row. 637 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,200 Like, I mean, well, granted, like Paolini did that last year, 638 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,000 but but still like that's it's objectively impressive. 639 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,840 Jazzy, Miss Paolini. She's a generational talent, 640 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,120 Sir. I, I, it would have been an 641 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:03,480 absolute insane shame if if Sabalinka did not take home a a 642 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,760 slam trophy this year. Like it would have been 643 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,800 senseless. Like how do you explain that? 644 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,560 I mean, she's had an incredible season, but that was her last 645 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,719 dragon to slay. Yeah, she needed to win. 646 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,000 She really, she needed it more than Amanda, to be honest, to 647 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,320 just to legitimize and to solidify her number one ranking. 648 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,000 I mean, there were times where over the course of the 649 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,560 tournament I was getting a little annoyed, like her grunt 650 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,560 was gruntier than ever. There were times when, 651 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,800 especially in the semi final against Pagula, I was like, why 652 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,159 is she not being called for hindrance? 653 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,120 When she is she'll she'll serve a second serve, an 80 mile an 654 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,600 hour second serve and continue her grunt as Pagula is returning 655 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,840 it. It's a little like, come on 656 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,840 girl, it's too much. But let her. 657 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,199 Let her live her truth. Paul no, that is not a truth. 658 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:53,840 That is a bullshit. That is a hindrance. 659 00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:56,360 Women's not trying. To silence. 660 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,000 I'm not trying to let her. Speak. 661 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,680 Let her speak. Look, she's she, she already 662 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,080 done spoken. We've heard. 663 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,520 We've heard this. Growl. 664 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,880 She starts this whole podcast with a with a whole spiel about 665 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,960 censorship and here he comes. Women getting women getting too 666 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,280 loud again. Am I as bad as the USTA? 667 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,760 No. No. 668 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,000 But I will admit, like she handled the pressure better. 669 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,480 She here's the thing about arena She loves an audience. 670 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,560 She loves to be watched. She's an exhibitionist, she 671 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,480 would have loved it if there were 50,000 people there. 672 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,600 She does not get rattled and in fact like I think she performs 673 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,160 better when people are watching. My only caveat with arena is 674 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,960 like yes she is very good. There are other players whose 675 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,720 game I think is better, including Amanda. 676 00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:48,240 Like Amanda's strokes are better than arenas. 677 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,120 Like she can overpower Arena. Ego's variety is better than 678 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,120 Sabalenka is. Like I'm not sure why Sabalenka 679 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:59,000 is so good, what is her weapon other than her mentality? 680 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,200 Her secret weapon like within the past couple years has been 681 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,360 is she's playing with a lot more margin like she is. 682 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,000 She's done what top players need to do, which is take the the 683 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,200 least comfortable, least instinctive direction of their 684 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,160 game like that is that is counter intuitive to all that 685 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,720 they know about what makes their game strong. 686 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,560 You know, for arena, it's like I hit hard, you know, I, I serve 687 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,600 fast like that. And she said that's great. 688 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,320 She's like, what's going to take me to the next level and make me 689 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,360 consistent is if I dial it back a little bit and hit with 690 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,520 margin. And I feel like that is growth 691 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,200 that not every player is able to achieve. 692 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:44,320 Yeah, it is it, it is. I find it a little underwhelming 693 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,880 that someone's strategy is I'm just going to not hit it out as 694 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,760 much. Especially with the automatic 695 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,600 line calls, I feel like people are actually not only aiming for 696 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,800 the line more, they're aiming for the outside of the line. 697 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,920 They're aiming for the just barely in because they don't 698 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,560 have someone who's going to miss that call. 699 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:01,960 And so for her to be like, well, I'll hit it like with better 700 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,480 margins, like, I don't know, like, yes, it's true, it's 701 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,680 helping and she's winning and she's #1 but I don't love that 702 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,200 as like a sexy strategy for winning. 703 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,720 Yes, but but you can't tell me that she's not a big babe tennis 704 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:18,280 like like, Oh yeah, Basher. I mean like she hits hard. 705 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,520 So but it's just it's she's still hitting harder than 95% of 706 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,160 the rest of the tour. She's just hitting with a little 707 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,280 bit more control and shape for herself, which is what, which is 708 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,720 what is winning her these matches. 709 00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:35,520 I mean, if she was going to not do that, she would be committing 710 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,200 more errors and maybe have more winners but have more errors and 711 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,160 she would lose type matches. Yeah, no, she's, yeah. 712 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,520 She's like a little less Wreck It Ralph than she used to be. 713 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,360 Like she used to just go. I know which. 714 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,840 Wreck it. But like I'm I'm with you. 715 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,080 It's fun. Like that's what you love about 716 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,640 like an Ostapenko sometimes, right? 717 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,800 It's just like when she freaking whacks it. 718 00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,440 But I but like these players have got to grow and and I think 719 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,280 got to learn lessons that are going to carry their careers, 720 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,200 you know, for a decade. Yeah, yeah, real quick, just 721 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,360 talking about the semis, which was just like the the ultimate 722 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,880 night of tennis in my opinion, when we had Sibalenka and 723 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,680 Pagula, a rematch of last year's final, we had Naomi and Amanda. 724 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:25,240 2 incredible redemption stories. I loved Naomi's redemption arc 725 00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:30,040 getting to the semifinals and that she she had some really 726 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,400 great wins. Her personality came back out 727 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,920 and she seemed happy and at peace. 728 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,480 She was at the men's semi final the next night watching. 729 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,080 She wasn't upset, she wasn't writing on Twitter or threads. 730 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,240 Her sort of emo angsty lost girl poetry. 731 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:51,040 What are your thoughts? Naomi comes out with her outfits 732 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,960 and her la Boo boos and like she brings a big presence to the 733 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,640 court. And I feel like it gets it 734 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,040 doesn't quite have the same impact when she doesn't make it 735 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,640 far within a tournament because you can kind of spin this 736 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,800 narrative up. She's so focused on the, the, 737 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,120 the trappings and kind of the, the, you know, bringing her 738 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,000 personality, the court that that she's not focusing on her game, 739 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,520 which is frankly BS. But it's like, but you can't it, 740 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,280 it, it's a lot more fun when she's winning. 741 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,520 And, you know, also also bringing the personality she 742 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,360 needed to reach a threshold where she felt like she was at 743 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,440 the top of the game again, you know, where she she might not 744 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,600 win this time, but she had the the energy and the momentum in 745 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,320 the drive to end the game to to, you know, win it in the next 746 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,920 couple seasons. And I feel like she reached 747 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,440 that. 100% and especially coming off of the the final in Canada, 748 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:53,680 she's back in the top 20 and she beat Mukova in the 749 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,880 quarterfinals, she beat Kazukina in the third round, she beat. 750 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,400 And she was moving. She was moving fantastically. 751 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,840 It's it's like she looked like a very complete player. 752 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,680 Yeah. What did you think of that 753 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:11,760 purple kit? The the skirt part like was a 754 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,000 little, I don't know, like there's kind of like a Victorian 755 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,600 like petticoat quality to it. Like, but you know what, that's 756 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,720 Naomi. She likes to, she's throwing 757 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:25,280 back to to like to the 2000 slams where these players would 758 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,240 come out in like weird shit. They come out in Leopard. 759 00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,760 Print and like throwing back to the 1800s. 760 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:36,640 Like, it's fun, like sports should intersect with fashion 761 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,880 and and be experimental and and it should like, it creates a 762 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,640 conversation. And I think that's only good for 763 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,040 the sport. And I feel like that's what she 764 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,600 wants to wear. So like, more power to her. 765 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,960 Yeah, I love a risk taker for sure. 766 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,920 I just didn't love the the puffiness at the bottom. 767 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,040 It didn't feel very aerodynamic. I just wasn't a huge, huge fan. 768 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,560 I mean, look, when you take fashion, a fashion risk is 769 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,760 nothing that's beloved by all. I wasn't obsessed with it. 770 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,320 And you know, that's OK. She because she's not playing 771 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,040 for me yet. But one of these days, one of 772 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,160 these days. Well, maybe if you if you sell 773 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,440 your Rolex collection, you. Could. 774 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,040 Yeah. Well, I you could I. 775 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,840 You could hire her for your own the exhibition in your backyard. 776 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,280 I smashed all my Rolexes. I can't, I can't. 777 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,720 I can't find them anywhere. We're going to have we're going 778 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,680 to have an online auction for the the ball boys community for 779 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,240 all Paul's Smash Rolexes. Yes, yes, I love that. 780 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:33,160 I love that for us the royal we a couple other roses on the WTA. 781 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,200 Just real quick, Taylor Townsend's run. 782 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,200 Love seeing that. I mean, look, I don't need to 783 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,520 get into the was it the second round match or first run match 784 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,760 with Ostapenko? Horrible scene. 785 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,480 Ostapenko really embarrassed herself, made a fool of herself 786 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,920 and is reaping the rewards of that on social media. 787 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,720 I don't know if you've gone her any of her posts lately, but 788 00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:58,880 she's just getting roasted in the comments. 789 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,240 And hey, you know, you, you, you, you make your bed, you lay 790 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:04,440 in it. But what I love about Taylor 791 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,800 Townsend was just her game was so fun to watch. 792 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,520 Like everything about her game is unique. 793 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,680 Her stance on her return, she has a split step that's like 1 794 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,080 foot in front of the other. She plays really old school 795 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,440 tennis. Her volleys are slices. 796 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:23,600 She's not hitting over the ball like a lot of sort of the newer 797 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:28,800 players, but to her kit. I mean, I know what the story 798 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,360 was. The phoenix rising from the 799 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,880 ashes. It was giving me full on flavor 800 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,440 Town. I was not here for Guy Fieri's. 801 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:42,560 It, it was, it was a little bit, yeah, of, of, of diners driving. 802 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:48,280 Drivers, drives, whatever yeah like bro but but again. 803 00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:53,200 Better better an ugly but interesting kit than like a Nike 804 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,640 polo. I'm sorry, Like I like any day. 805 00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:00,480 No, Taylor Taylor's amazing. I I I love seeing her have this, 806 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,320 this breakthrough in a slam. I mean very much deserved. 807 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,120 I I agree. Her game is super fun. 808 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:11,080 Like she is someone who is able to bring the double S experience 809 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,600 and apply it in a way that actually like like is productive 810 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,040 in singles. She has a lot of court craft, 811 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,960 but she is she's powerful. You know she can. 812 00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:23,840 She can hit big too. Yeah, I'm excited to see what 813 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,960 what happens next. Look, we could talk about the 814 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,280 ladies for another hour. I mean, we had the Czech 815 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,600 huntress girls of Krjikova, Mukova, Vondrasova all playing 816 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,320 great. Unfortunately, they all suffer 817 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,120 from the same avian bone disease as Jack Donaghy's girlfriend in 818 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,920 30 Rock. Venus was just a delight to see 819 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,440 everywhere. But we got to switch over to the 820 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,840 men to the Menzies. I know who want Boo Boo, but we 821 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,960 got to give men a little bit of airtime on the show. 822 00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:03,400 We got the final that we expected, but I don't know if we 823 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,400 got the final that we wanted. We got Yannick and Carlos coming 824 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,720 in. The number one ranking is on the 825 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:11,320 line. Yannick is now the youngest 826 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,360 player to make all four Grand Slam finals in one year. 827 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,640 That's pretty amazing. But then Carlos wins in four 828 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,680 pretty straightforward sets and he's kind of owning Sinner. 829 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,000 Since 2024, they've played nine times, he's won eight of them. 830 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,120 And then I was actually just reading earlier today. 831 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,880 By reading, I mean scrolling Instagram. 832 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,720 But there there was a post about how after the loss at Wimbledon, 833 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:39,680 Carlos took 15 days off and focused solely for those 15 days 834 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,360 on how to beat ionic Sinner, didn't It wasn't about improving 835 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,560 a skill or a fitness. It was about what can I do to 836 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,760 beat Ionic Sinner? And that's a little terrifying. 837 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,360 Is he like a witch? And he like got a lock of 838 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,360 Yannick's hair. I don't know what he did those 839 00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,560 15 days, but it fucking worked. So at the outside of the 840 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,840 tournament, when we were building our our fantasy 841 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,520 brackets, I picked Yannick as the as kind of the the head 842 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,240 honcho in my bracket. I thought he was going to he had 843 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:11,840 the best chance of making it all the way through. 844 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,920 But by the time of the final, if anybody asked me who was going 845 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,320 to come out of that match victorious, I I would have said 846 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,240 Carlos. I mean, obviously not with 100% 847 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:24,600 confidence, but I was like, I felt like Carlos had the 848 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,240 momentum. I mean, Sinner had like 849 00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:30,360 potentially a little bit of kind of a stomach or an AB issue from 850 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,600 the match before. Like didn't like his his trainer 851 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,560 said he was fine. But you just kind of, I know 852 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,680 it's like it's like the serve I feel like was a little bit 853 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,520 compromised. But I just think I don't really 854 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,840 think Sinner lost the match. I think that Carlos won it. 855 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,400 I I. I don't, yes. 856 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,560 I don't think Sinner ever got to his like top form in the match. 857 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,040 Like he had a few moments. Yeah, but but Carlitos did not 858 00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:02,280 give him an opening. I mean, I say that he did. 859 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:08,280 Yannick did win a set but he he is locked in and he gave he gave 860 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:15,800 Sinner no time, just quick as quick as the dead and really 861 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,320 like just wasn't missing. Yeah, but I do love this 862 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,400 rivalry. But I feel like the the French 863 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,320 Open final for me really spoiled me because now I'm expecting 864 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,520 that every final. I just want that narrative. 865 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,520 I want to see that. But that's not what rivalries 866 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,400 are. Rivalries aren't always going to 867 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,200 be 5 hour iconic. I mean when Federer and Nadal 868 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,240 played at the French Open a couple times it was not a a very 869 00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,560 entertaining match. You know Nadal would just cream 870 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,720 him. There is going to be a natural 871 00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:49,320 imbalance because it's just it's too humans. 872 00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:55,280 But it is amazing that they've split the last 8 grand slams now 873 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,040 it is. It feels like a new era. 874 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,920 It feels officially like we're in a new era. 875 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,400 You. Know. 876 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,920 Yeah, yeah. We have we have a big two. 877 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,240 I think that that that grows the sport. 878 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,760 People can tell when there is, when there's an energy and, and 879 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,280 they kind of don't want to come late to the party, you know. 880 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,640 So when they they feel like it's, it's kind of these young 881 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,800 players who at the top of the game, you just don't want, you 882 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:25,160 don't want them to be so much above the rest of the tour that 883 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,120 it saps the drama out of some of those matches. 884 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,640 It's like, do we always want to see the same two people reaching 885 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,720 the final every time? Let's get into that for a 886 00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:39,000 second, because I think that the problem is, is that most of the 887 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:43,640 tournament, most of the men's matches, lacks tension. 888 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:48,000 When it was Sinner or Alcaraz playing someone else, there was 889 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,000 no doubt really who was going to win. 890 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,440 I mean, Carlos didn't drop a set until the final. 891 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,000 I don't. Know, I mean, Carlitos and 892 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,960 Bellucci really, really had me on the edge of my. 893 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,200 Seat. I know, I know, I know. 894 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,160 Your your boy Mataya really brought it to him on Ash. 895 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,240 Yeah, I really, it was a real tight one. 896 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:09,280 Yeah, but I mean, so because I think that for fans, what when 897 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,040 tennis is really compelling is when there's tension, you don't 898 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,800 know what's going to happen. You're stressed out watching it. 899 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,240 And there was no tension for most matches then when it wasn't 900 00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:21,880 Sinner or Alcaraz playing. And I'm thinking specifically of 901 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,920 the quarterfinal between FAA and DE Manure. 902 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,560 Both great players. And I'm really happy about 903 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,240 Felix's run to the semi final. Great. 904 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:34,200 That quarterfinal looked like a different sport than what Sinner 905 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,280 and Alcaraz are doing. It was riddled with errors. 906 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,040 It was loopier. It was slower. 907 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,200 Yeah, it's a good match. It's kind of close. 908 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,360 It didn't matter because whoever was going to go on to the semi 909 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,160 was going to lose. I think that why the big three 910 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,040 was more successful was that. And this is where again, I, I 911 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,640 just turned to the gay community and, and looking at us and it's 912 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,640 like, look, when it's just a pair that gets stale, when it's 913 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,800 just two together, that's stale. It's not even that fun to watch 914 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,680 after a while. We need to spice things up. 915 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,760 We need to open it up and have a third. 916 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,840 That's why when Novak came in as the third, things got really fun 917 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,320 because then if two of them are going to meet in a semi final, 918 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,920 we need someone who's going to come in and spice things up 919 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,000 before the final. Do we have anyone who is going 920 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,640 to be that third yet? I don't really see like a 921 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,360 Shelton or a Draper actually being that third. 922 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,080 But what do you think those are? Those are the names along with 923 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,200 Fritz that I, that I hear. And you know what? 924 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,000 I've someone one of the ESPN commentators threw in Menschek 925 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,480 actually as a dark horse. I think just because he's he's 926 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,720 so young and his game has has upside still anyone mind? 927 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,960 I share your feelings on it. But I also I'm very optimistic 928 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,560 that in this extremely competitive environment that 929 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,680 these guys who are in the top 20 are going to push themselves to 930 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,720 their limit and be motivated by the challenge of beating Sinner. 931 00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:06,440 Now crass. Do I think that that it's going 932 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,960 to be Demon who is the one who steps up to that mantle? 933 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,640 No Do I think it's going to be like even even Rublev? 934 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:19,440 Like probably not. But but I think there is there's 935 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,320 a short list and it's going to be fun to watch their careers 936 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,960 grow. I mean, I think Shelton's made a 937 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,680 lot of strides in the last year. Draper to Obviously, I'm a 938 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:34,280 little less convinced than than most people about Draper's game. 939 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,040 I just remember him being in his early in his early years, having 940 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,320 a lot of like physical issues. Well, and now he's out for the 941 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,040 rest of the year. I mean, he's he's playing 942 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,280 anything for the rest of the year. 943 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,000 And that's the that's the problem is like the sport is now 944 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,640 at this level where these guys in the top 20, yeah, they're 945 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,160 going to try and get there. But if they keep getting injured 946 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,880 and they keep hurting themselves, and then I do worry 947 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,960 that because for a while, Carlos, he would have these 948 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,480 little tiny injuries here and there and now Yannick always has 949 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,160 a tummy ache. We're going to end up with sort 950 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,120 of like an injured reserve list in 2026. 951 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,760 OK, here's the question and and also a statement. 952 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,880 I could not believe that they delayed the start of the match 953 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:22,440 for. I think it end up being like 45 954 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,880 minutes later. Yeah, yeah. 955 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,600 The the stadium was half full when it started. 956 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,040 First of all, if I paid thousands of dollars for a 957 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,320 ticket and I was stuck in that line because of God damn Trump, 958 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,240 it would have been Stonewall all over again. 959 00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:36,880 I would have thrown the first tennis ball. 960 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,040 I would have rioted. But do you think that that 961 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,000 impacted the match at all? Do you think that impacted the 962 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,280 energy? Did it impact like, 'cause these 963 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,800 players were probably ready to go on the court at a certain 964 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,240 time and then they had to wait? Does that matter? 965 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,640 I think that in theory it definitely matters. 966 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,600 I think that they time their hydration and their warm up like 967 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,000 to down to the minute. I think they're very scientific 968 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,680 about it. Did I did I feel like it 969 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,240 impacted it as I watched. Not really, to be honest with 970 00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:10,080 you. I mean, I mean, I, I was 971 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,560 fascinated by everything that was happening when I was 972 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,320 watching it on TV. And I think, I think there was 1 973 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,880 moment where it was like, I think it was after the match had 974 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,880 started that Michael Douglas was still outside being like like 975 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,640 patted down by security. It's it's like if Michael 976 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,920 Douglas can't get into this match on time and like, like cut 977 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,000 to the front of the like, God knows, the rest of the peons of 978 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,320 the audience are absolutely effed. 979 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,120 But no, it was like it was just, it was kind of a stain on the 980 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,480 whole day. But I don't think that it in any 981 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,160 way impacted the outcome of the match. 982 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,120 Real quick, what do you think about Novak? 983 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,640 I thought he was another interesting story. 984 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,200 I'm glad that he made it to the semis. 985 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,720 Yeah, me too. I, you know, there was some 986 00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:52,400 tension, like is he going to beat Fritz? 987 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,520 Is he going to have anything for Carlos? 988 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,520 I'm just wondering though because he was very gracious 989 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,040 after his loss and I don't think he's going to be happy going to 990 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,920 the semis and continuing to miss Tara's birthdays. 991 00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:06,440 Is he retiring after Australia this year? 992 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,600 I don't. Think he's going to retire this 993 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,240 year. I don't think he's going to 994 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,440 retire after this season, but I mean, he has a pretty minimal 995 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,640 schedule. He basically just plays the 996 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:26,640 slams and like and the Olympics. If it's an Olympic year, which I 997 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,480 don't think he's still going to be on tour by the next one. 998 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:34,000 I kind of think part of the reason why is in the back of 999 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,640 your mind you're thinking, what else am I going to do? 1000 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,120 You know, you're like, this is this is my life. 1001 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,400 It's like if I fully remove myself from the environment 1002 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:48,800 where I where like I get all my joy and validation, what else am 1003 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,040 I going to do? Am I going to be a stay at home 1004 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,320 dad? He's the GOAT. 1005 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,440 He's Novak. Like he's he's tennis. 1006 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,960 He's the tennis celebrity. Yeah. 1007 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,440 But OK, so then he's going to become the president of Serbia 1008 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,600 or he's going to become a politician or he's going to lead 1009 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,080 all this charity, I mean. No, no, I I know he's got, he's 1010 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,200 got pots on the stove. But is he going to be happy 1011 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,000 losing every tournament going forward? 1012 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:15,320 I, I, I don't think it's, I know he has a winner's mentality. 1013 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:20,560 I don't think it's as painful losing the semi finals of slams 1014 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,400 as it would be losing consistently the third round of. 1015 00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:25,840 I feel like that's when we're going to see him. 1016 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,720 Yeah, make his exit. But I think I mean all it would 1017 00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:36,000 take is, you know, a Sinner or an Alcraz like injury, an 1018 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,680 injury, an illness like a like a kind of late tournament. 1019 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,080 Withdrawal. This is really dark. 1020 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:45,240 It's like he no I, but like he, he could poach. 1021 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,920 He could poach that next slam. Yeah, yeah. 1022 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,880 He, I think he, he still wants one more and I think he's going 1023 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,720 to give himself next year. But then I think if he doesn't 1024 00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:59,800 retire next year, I think he's going to retire at an Australian 1025 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,880 Open where he's had the most success. 1026 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,720 So if it's not, if it's not 2026 Australia, I bet it's 2027 1027 00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:07,680 Australia. I I cosigned that I do, yeah. 1028 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,120 But did you see his amazing shot that went down the line? 1029 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,040 Did I? I don't know. 1030 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,400 Do you not remember it? No. 1031 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,360 Oh, that's because it was cross court. 1032 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:30,160 Damn it, Paul got me again. That's right. 1033 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,960 That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time 1034 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,760 for cross courts. We're going to end our show with 1035 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,800 cross court where the ball boys are the line judge and jury of 1036 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,800 tennis crimes. I've got my little gavel, I've 1037 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:47,560 got my RBG lace collar on, and we are going to try the fourth 1038 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,240 case of cross court. And this is the case of public 1039 00:55:51,240 --> 00:55:55,080 indecency. Look, from the mixed double S 1040 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,640 formats to Trump being there, to that weird dating show, the US 1041 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,680 Open has kind of given up all pretenses of dignity. 1042 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,560 But it's been most noticeable in the crowds, which has always 1043 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,360 pushed the limits of decency. But have we gone too far? 1044 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,680 Look at this year's U.S. Open. 1045 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,280 We had people just getting up and moving seats, leaving mid 1046 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,720 game. I could hear the commentators 1047 00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:22,160 biting their tongues, wanting to scold these people. 1048 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,720 We had those fans who were chanting at the behest of 1049 00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:28,840 Medvedev and that embarrassment of a first round. 1050 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,120 There was table service mid game to courtside seats where people 1051 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,840 were being delivered honey deuces when the actual game is 1052 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,520 at deuce. There was that one fan who tried 1053 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,360 to steal something out of sinner's bag. 1054 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,280 We had a proposal during Sabalinka's match. 1055 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,040 What next? A bris? 1056 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,880 And I was a victim, too. During mixed double S, There was 1057 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,440 a family behind me who was just talking the entire goddamn time. 1058 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,880 And it'd be one thing if they were talking about the tennis. 1059 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,040 They were talking about barbecues that they were going 1060 00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,240 to go to. They were talking about an 1061 00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:00,800 illness that their cousin had. They're talking about their new 1062 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,440 workouts, gossip, anything except about the tennis. 1063 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,040 And I say enough is enough. And that this public indecency 1064 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:13,720 has gone too far. And so Matthew Coleman in the 1065 00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:19,000 charge of public indecency against the crowds of the US 1066 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,200 Open. How do you find the defendants? 1067 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,360 It's so funny because if any of my friends are listening like 1068 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:31,080 they know me as the as like the rules czar, there is nothing I 1069 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,480 love more than than enforcing the rules and like maintaining 1070 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,680 decorum. But honestly, the sport, like 1071 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:44,800 the sport of tennis has to be a little less up its own ass about 1072 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,000 silence and not letting people literally move throughout the 1073 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,320 stands. They got to get over it. 1074 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,720 And I think that, and I think that if players just get used to 1075 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,160 it, it's going to be fine. A popular sport in the modern 1076 00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,600 age, Like you got to be able to get out of your seat to go get 1077 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,680 concessions. You got to go to the bathroom 1078 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:07,880 like, like people just don't want to sit still and be silent 1079 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,200 for that long. I'm sorry. 1080 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,560 We've all been raised on smartphones and and Game Boys 1081 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,920 like it's, it's just not happening. 1082 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,720 So I hate to see it become less of a gentleman's and 1083 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,560 gentlewoman's sport in that sense. 1084 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,800 But it's got to happen. That's that's my ruling. 1085 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:30,880 So I agree that there's got to be a loosening of the decorum, 1086 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,880 but where is the line? Where is the where, what, what 1087 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,280 is allowed and what isn't? Because I also find that because 1088 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,400 of this sort of lifestyle of tennis and the influencers and 1089 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:47,160 the popularity of non tennis fans going to the US Open for 1090 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,680 basically content and there's this attitude of, well, we 1091 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,920 should just be allowed to do what we would do at a basketball 1092 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,640 game. I think that there's got to be a 1093 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,920 level of I'm going into a new environment, let me learn what 1094 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,160 are the social cues, what are the rules, what are the things 1095 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,840 and maybe evolve it together. It is, it is a different sport 1096 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,960 than basketball, than baseball, than football, where the ball is 1097 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,120 so much smaller, it is moving so much faster around this dynamic 1098 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:18,120 sort of 4 dimensional court that if things are moving around, if 1099 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,240 things are flashing, if things are happening like those 1100 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,840 distractions do matter, but also for the fans who are there who 1101 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,240 are really into the tennis. So I guess I'm going to bring it 1102 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,360 back to me. They fucking hated it when this 1103 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,000 goddamn family behind me, we just would not shut the fuck up. 1104 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,240 And I was with Fabio and Tim and we were all listening. 1105 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,760 Like what the. Hell, I guess, but like, have 1106 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,400 you ever been to a baseball game? 1107 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,720 It's like people in the stands talk about whatever they want. 1108 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,680 I mean, that's, that's part of like live sports, like, like, 1109 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,720 but I hear you listen. And I'm, I'm with you. 1110 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,320 I'm like, I love tennis so much. I'm putting, I'm trying to put 1111 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,800 aside my personal feelings on the matter and look at like, 1112 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,400 what is actually going to be good for the sport. 1113 00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,360 But like, here's where I think, did I did I say that? 1114 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:07,800 Probably it's it's getting away. I think, I think when the ball 1115 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,320 is in play, everybody's got the shut the F up. 1116 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,320 Yes. I think like that's that's a no 1117 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,320 brainer. I think that that before the 1118 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,160 second serve, everybody, nobody better make a damn sound. 1119 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,280 Which like, I'm not, but I'm not convinced that in 10 years, if 1120 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,360 we're still having this conversation, that the second 1121 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,520 serve will actually exist as a function of the match. 1122 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,840 I know, but like, I don't know. We'll see. 1123 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,120 We'll see what's coming. Fresh hell is this. 1124 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,520 But I think, I think that like generally like silence during 1125 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,840 play to me is something that we can not hang our hat on now, but 1126 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,280 like I think. Well, that's all I want. 1127 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,960 But people. Cannot be like, I don't like 1128 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,320 people being blocked from entering the stadium during the 1129 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,680 first three sets or the three games of a set, you know, 1130 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:56,600 because it's like you have to wait. 1131 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,360 You have to wait until the first true changeover. 1132 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,560 It's like that is not, that's not a growth mindset for the 1133 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:02,760 sport. People are going to be like, I'm 1134 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:03,920 never going to a tennis match again. 1135 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,000 OK I totally agree with that but what needs to happen is they 1136 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,920 need to be told rush to your seat. 1137 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,640 The problem that what pissed me off was like these people 1138 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,160 slowly, languidly walking down the aisle. 1139 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,360 And just like. Excuse me? 1140 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,920 Like moving in like a molasses to their seat. 1141 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,720 Like bitch, sit, get to the seat and sit your ass down. 1142 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,080 OK, so I do have two solutions, 2 modest proposals that I want 1143 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:31,480 to swing by you. So one is I think the chair 1144 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,800 umpires role needs to evolve. So because the chair umpires, 1145 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,560 they are still talking like it's the 1800s seats quickly please, 1146 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,520 you know, silence, please. Like they're these very proper, 1147 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,520 well spoken, polite people up there. 1148 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,480 It is true. They feel like they feel like a 1149 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,800 like a Victorian schoolmarm in a theater. 1150 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,440 Who's going? No one's listening to that like. 1151 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,200 Like ladies, ladies and gentlemen, do you declare, 1152 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,000 please? But also, you think about it, 1153 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,600 what the hell are they doing anymore? 1154 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,840 They're they are not calling lines anymore. 1155 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,000 They're not over ruling anything. 1156 01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,600 So what are they doing up there? I think that their job needs to 1157 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,640 change. They should be less about 1158 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,800 calling anything on the court. I mean, yes, of course they're, 1159 01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,120 I think they still call let's, which is just a weird thing. 1160 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,160 But they should be less about making calls and more about 1161 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,720 managing the space and the stadium, you know, the crowds, 1162 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,040 the players. Kind of like, I was thinking 1163 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,440 about this. It's kind of like how flight 1164 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,120 attendants, their role has changed. 1165 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,800 Yes, flight attendants have always been about safety first, 1166 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,000 but they used to be about hospitality in this big way and 1167 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,600 about service and all that. And yes, they still give you a 1168 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,040 Coca-Cola for $10, but they're more about safety these days. 1169 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,280 They're more about sort of managing the people on the 1170 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,480 plane. I think that that the chair 1171 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,880 empires need to act differently. I think chair empires, they need 1172 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,600 to own the court. Like like that fucking, I'm 1173 01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,440 blanking on his name now, but the umpire that let Medvedev 1174 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,240 start that chanting of like second serve, second serve, he 1175 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,560 should have shut that shit down immediately. 1176 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,560 Yeah, I fucking hate him. He sucks anyway. 1177 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,120 But like, next time that Medvedev gets out of hand like 1178 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,400 that, he needs to be removed from the court, put to the 1179 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,840 locker room, get in his face like a like the home based 1180 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,400 umpire on a baseball game. He doesn't take shit from the 1181 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:20,760 players. He's like, you're out of here, 1182 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,440 you know, like give the penalty. Which people hate by the way. 1183 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,000 People hate when when an umpire in baseball goes on a power 1184 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:27,720 trip. But. 1185 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:32,440 But no, I totally agree, some umpires right now are better 1186 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,680 than others about a really into the their role as a 1187 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:39,560 disciplinarian and and crowd control and it needs to be more 1188 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,640 of a universal standard and it needs to happen quickly. 1189 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,600 I totally agree with you. Yeah, because also like I'm 1190 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,640 thinking about the Ostapenko Townsend interaction after the 1191 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,960 match, which was terrible. Like look, in pro boxing at the 1192 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,480 end of a match, the the teams are in there keeping them 1193 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,640 separated. Like I think of the chair Empire 1194 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,200 should have gotten down off their goddamn chair immediately 1195 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,120 and broken them up. It's hard to intervene when 1196 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,120 you're literally 10 feet up in the air and it's the underground 1197 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,920 you, you can't really hear what they're saying. 1198 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,000 You can tell you can be like ladies or gentlemen, but it's 1199 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,440 like you don't know what the nature of it. 1200 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,800 But even like the even the, the, the handshake between Sissy Pass 1201 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,360 and Altmire, that got a little contentious. 1202 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,560 Like, I think that the chair Empire should actually get down 1203 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,120 from the chair and shake hands with each player so they're on 1204 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,760 the same level and just making sure, OK, nothing's going to 1205 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,520 happen. Whether it's the fans being too 1206 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,000 loud, the players fighting. I think the chair empire, I 1207 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,400 think that that's one place to look. 1208 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,560 OK, Can they can they act differently? 1209 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,320 Like, that's one modest proposal here. 1210 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:42,280 Second modest proposal. Just like every time I ride the 1211 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,800 Acela Amtrak from New York to Boston, I go to the goddamn 1212 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,680 quiet car because I don't want to hear your freaking iPad. 1213 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,560 I think that there should be a quiet section in stadiums. 1214 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,720 So like, fine, you families, you want to talk about Uncle Joe's 1215 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:57,760 glitter? Great. 1216 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,320 You sit in the loud section, but there should be a quiet section 1217 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,920 because then it is OK. This is where people who want to 1218 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:08,440 watch the match, watch the match and you can shush at will. 1219 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:13,440 So am I correct that your your positions during this episode 1220 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:18,880 have been women need to stop yapping as much and we are pro 1221 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,920 segregation in terms of tennis seating? 1222 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,120 Between quiet and loud, absolutely that is a yes. 1223 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,440 Wow, Paul. Wow. 1224 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,760 I want a quiet line your. Truth. 1225 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,040 Diva I want a quiet line at the hot dog stand. 1226 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:36,720 I want a quiet line at the urinal. 1227 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,920 A quiet. Line at the Hot Dog Stand sounds 1228 01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,880 like the title of a Lana Del Rey album. 1229 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:45,000 Exactly my my new single. My single is dropping exactly 1230 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,760 your earlier thesis you like. Yes, the the sport is changing, 1231 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,840 the vibe is changing, the crowds are changing and we can't stop 1232 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,800 progress. This is not Muriel's wedding, 1233 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,200 but right now that Chair Empire is not doing anything except 1234 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:04,040 watching from a perch, and the crowds are doing whatever they 1235 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:05,400 want. We've got to help them 1236 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,840 understand a better way to experience this so that everyone 1237 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:10,920 because it does. It does suck for those of us who 1238 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:18,400 just want to watch the match. So as as as as Ostapenko said to 1239 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,320 Taylor Townsend, you're basically telling the world you 1240 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:25,480 need a better education. I am most certainly not doing 1241 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:29,160 anything like what Austin Panko said to miss. 1242 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,840 Taylor, I think I heard you just say you need to like people need 1243 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,560 to be educated. We need to bring them into the 1244 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,960 fold and help them understand. Like a missionary. 1245 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:42,640 I never. I don't prefer. 1246 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,040 I don't like missionary. No, I don't. 1247 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:51,240 I don't like eye contact. Well, anyway, I do think that in 1248 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:55,280 the case of public indecency, the crowds at the US Open have 1249 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,360 been found guilty, but it is not their fault. 1250 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,960 It is like manslaughter versus premeditated murder, and that 1251 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:07,400 the US Open and the USTA can do a better job of crowd control, 1252 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,920 crowd management and crowd hypnosis. 1253 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,800 And I'm standing by it. I like the way you think 1254 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,480 creative. Solutions standing by it. 1255 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,320 Yeah, and I will be signing up. I'll be the first customer in 1256 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,200 the quiet section of every tournament. 1257 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,440 I will pay double for a quiet section so. 1258 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,560 That does sound like heaven, although I want to. 1259 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,120 I kind of want to be like the critique of a gay that was like 1260 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,720 shouting his ass off from the stands. 1261 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,600 He was the most hated homosexual in all of gay tennis. 1262 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,560 Everyone. Icon legend. 1263 01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:46,400 The moment was that in my opinion, was that I don't know 1264 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:49,760 he was in, right? No, he wasn't. 1265 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:50,960 But I mean, he's, he should have. 1266 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,240 He should have been the next round. 1267 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,480 Because I did, I, I was looking for him the next round. 1268 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,800 But no, no, no such luck. But that was in. 1269 01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,480 That was insane. She, I mean, she had an entire 1270 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,520 stadium of people who were not rooting for her. 1271 01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,400 Like she needed one powerful, loud voice. 1272 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,680 Amazing. It should have been you. 1273 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:12,960 It could have, could have, would have, should have. 1274 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:17,279 Well, Matthew, that's our show. A pleasure as always. 1275 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,920 Did you have fun? Had a blast. 1276 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,439 I always, I always love going on a ride with you. 1277 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,279 What are you going to shave for our next show? 1278 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,680 I don't know, but it's definitely not going to be on 1279 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,120 air, OK. Like if I'm going to do it on 1280 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,560 camera, I'm going to make sure I'm charging good money. 1281 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,840 For it monetize, we're going to shave, we're going to get 1282 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:39,240 something I don't know, maybe you're. 1283 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,200 Turn that. Turn that razor on yourself. 1284 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,000 Paul. Wait. 1285 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,680 That sounded. That sounded. 1286 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,840 Dark, dark. You're going dark today, Matt. 1287 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,920 I don't know if I like this. Well anyway, Matthew is going to 1288 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,319 be back with us for the Bali Awards at the end of the year. 1289 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,160 Very excited for the second annual Bali Awards coming up in 1290 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,000 December. And it's a programming note. 1291 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,240 We are going to be moving to a new show every three weeks for 1292 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:04,279 the remainder of this year, so we can also start prepping some 1293 01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:08,200 fun for the new things happening in 2026. 1294 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,040 As we all know, the first tournament of 2026 is starting 1295 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,399 any day now, but in the meantime, stay in touch with us 1296 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,640 over on Instagram, that's at TBB Tennis. 1297 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,479 You can also check out our latest Bay TP rankings that are 1298 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,279 up over there. And until then, court is 1299 01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:25,560 adjourned. Thanks so much everybody and we 1300 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,840 will see you real soon. Bye.