1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,120 It's time for let's get some ground strokes baseline. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,200 It's top spin. That's LGBT. 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,720 Have a listen. Make some noise with the ball 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:23,200 boys. Hey everybody, and welcome to 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,800 the latest episode of The Ball Boys. 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,160 We are the tennis podcast that puts the slice and sliced and 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,000 diced and the drop shot in Drop dead. 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,440 I'm your host Paul Monkle and bringing the guts and gore of 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,480 the ATP and WTA tours for this special Halloween edition of The 10 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:42,640 Ball Boys. I'm so excited for this show. 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,680 Halloween is often called Gay Christmas and if I haven't 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,800 mentioned it, I actually grew up in Salem, MA. 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Yes, the which city where it's Halloween every day of the year. 14 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,920 And on top of that, I'm a Scorpio and I celebrated my 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,840 birthday last night at Cenespia at the Hollywood Forever 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,960 Cemetery where we were serving Gordeuvres. 17 00:01:04,519 --> 00:01:08,440 So yeah, it's in my blood. Hey listeners, are you dressing 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,000 up for Halloween? Do you need some inspiration? 19 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,720 If so, head on over to our Instagram page for some gay 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,400 tennis Halloween ideas. Maybe you can be Naomi Osaka's 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,160 La Booboo from the US Open or even more niche and show up as 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,920 Taylor Fritz's upside down Hugo Boss headband. 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,840 And it also feels a little fitting to have a spooky show 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,000 right now. Frankly, it's been an utter 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,520 nightmare on tour lately and the only thing scarier is the 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,360 constant barrage of news. Yes, we are still in a 27 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,960 government shutdown that is now the second longest ever. 28 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,480 I haven't felt a huge impact yet personally, but if this keeps 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,760 up, I might have to start selling old ball pics on only 30 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,520 cans. But back to the tennis. 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,320 Since the last show, the tour has continued pulling from every 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,560 horror movie trope. We've had twists and turns that 33 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,400 literally no one could have predicted. 34 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,720 We've had tournaments in ghost towns and places that just 35 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,920 scream get out. We've had players falling to the 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,759 ground in pain and players falling down the rankings. 37 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,040 And we've wound up with final girls who had the guts to win it 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,440 all. There's been some good news on 39 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,800 Tour 2, of course. Novak Djokovic has qualified for 40 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,760 yet another year in finals for a total of 18. 41 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,520 Our mercurial Russian Medi Kruger has finally won another 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,920 tournament. Granted, it's a small one in 43 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:33,000 Kazakhstan, but Christ, Almadi, it was time for Medvedev to get 44 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,000 that win. So on today's show, we'll be 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:40,200 talking about all of that and a segment about tennis curses and 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,040 cursed players. And we're calling that segment. 47 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,360 She already done had curses. And if you don't get that 48 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,040 reference, you need to start watching Drag Race again. 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,680 Or don't, I don't know, watch the old seasons. 50 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,840 Anyway to do all this? I'm so excited for today's ball 51 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,720 boy. When I said new balls, please a 52 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,880 few shows back, I meant it. So we've got another ball boy 53 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,080 virgin, which probably means he'll at least survive to the 54 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,520 end of the show. He's one of the managers of the 55 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,640 Out Loud Sports Tennis league here in LA. 56 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,880 He's a lifelong tennis fanatic. And he's a fellow Masshole. 57 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,400 He literally puts the Adam and Adam's family. 58 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,880 It's Adam La Roche. Hi, Adam, How are you? 59 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,120 How are you? I'm very happy to be here, 60 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,960 excited. This is popping my podcast 61 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,400 Cherry you. Know it's a. 62 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,520 Little something fun for the weekend before Halloween. 63 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,160 We know in in in all the scary movies, the virgin survives, so 64 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,760 you're safe for now. But by the end of this taping. 65 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,920 Fingers crossed I make it to the end. 66 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:47,920 Yeah, I met you at the viewing party at high tops that we had 67 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,160 for the men's final. And I'm always looking for a 68 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:57,240 fun, lippy homosexual with legs. And I saw you and I was like, 69 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,360 he's the next one because you just had a great sort of vibe. 70 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,440 And I'm really excited to spend this hour with you talking the 71 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,720 tennis, talking the trash. I want to get to know you a 72 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,960 little bit more. Are you a big Halloween guy? 73 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,079 Halloween was never a huge thing to me other than like another 74 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:17,839 night to go out drinking with your friends. 75 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,880 But then I moved to LA and especially West Hollywood. 76 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,320 Halloween is a thing. You know, the street shuts down, 77 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,200 there's a parade. That's when you know, I was 78 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,560 like, OK, this is this is a a big to do. 79 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:31,880 What's your best costume that you ever had? 80 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,440 I would say probably the most thought I've ever put into a 81 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,840 costume, or at least the most work I put into it. 82 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:46,440 In 2018, I did Serena's French Open cat suit, which I I I'll 83 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,040 send you a picture of it. It was a oh please. 84 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,160 Yeah, we're putting it. On Instagram. 85 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was, I mean, the thing with 86 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,880 cat suits as a male, which I learned the hard way, is you 87 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,160 have to remember to have a zipper sewn in or else you're 88 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,120 you're you're in big trouble. You know, when it's when it's 89 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,600 time to, you know, I can't quite picture. 90 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:07,760 It tell. Tell us more. 91 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,040 Don't listen. Slowly. 92 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,160 Oh God, yeah, yeah. I remember Coco Goff's New 93 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,000 Balance kid at the beginning of of this year at Australia. 94 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,200 She had to, she felt the need to do a demo on social media of how 95 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,160 she was going to pee because it was like a one piece. 96 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,120 You kind of have to take the whole thing off and put the 97 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,440 whole thing on and it's. All, Yeah. 98 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,440 OK, so that was you that year. OK, amazing. 99 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,920 I want to, I want to definitely want to see that. 100 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:35,480 I'm a Scream super fan. So I got to ask, what's your 101 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,200 favorite scary movie? I think my favorite scary movie, 102 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,880 definitely the one I've seen the most, is the others. 103 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,480 I love the others. Yeah. 104 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,040 I like those psychological movies more, more than like 105 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,040 gore, because I also really liked like the Village, like 106 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,480 those kind of movies. I, you know, I'm down for. 107 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,320 Well, that's perfect for tennis because I think that tennis has 108 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,040 been pretty much psychological torture for the last month or so 109 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,880 with with players just tapping out, losing their minds, 110 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,200 cramping, getting sick. And we're going to talk about 111 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,560 all that. But before we do, we are going 112 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:19,880 to play new balls, please, which is just whenever there's a new 113 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,440 ball boy on the show, we want to get to know them. 114 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,280 We want to go deep. We want to probe them on just 115 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:28,360 how gay for tennis they are. It used to be called getting 116 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,160 ballsy, but we're we're rebranding it to new balls, 117 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,400 please. I think we're going to stay with 118 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,120 that. So I don't know, we'll see. 119 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,400 But Adam, Are you ready to play new balls, please? 120 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,760 I'm I'm ready. Hold, let me let me get a sip of 121 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:40,400 wine. Here. 122 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:43,680 Oh yeah, please. All right. 123 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,720 Are you gay? TP or WT gay? 124 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:55,400 I would say I'm WT gay with some gay TP tendencies. 125 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,760 Tell me more. I dip in and out of of ATP. 126 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,560 Well, first of all, I don't have the attention span for five step 127 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,320 matches. So when it comes time to the 128 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,240 Grand Slams, I'm I'm really checked out. 129 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,000 I'll watch highlights, you know, I follow along, but I'm not 130 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,880 watching a five step match. I, you know, I'm the type of 131 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,080 person where even a movie that I love or like ATV show that I 132 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,840 love, I need to hit that pause button and, you know, break it 133 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,440 up into increments so that I, I can't stick around that long for 134 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,440 an ATP match. So that's predominantly why I 135 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,200 follow WTA more. Interesting. 136 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,920 I know that makes sense. It's, it's funny. 137 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,600 When we were at that high Tops viewing party, I was texting our 138 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,120 mutual friend Nathan Frizzell and just saying, like, I was a 139 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,880 little worried because I don't know if I can stand around for 5 140 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,400 1/2 hours. I can sit and watch A5 setter. 141 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,360 But like standing like, yeah, you're right. 142 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,920 It's a it's a long ass time. OK, so you so you're you are WT 143 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,400 gay and what makes you a ball boy? 144 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,320 Like what's your tennis history? Growing up, I grew up in a 145 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,240 football family and I was never into football. 146 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,880 When I, when I got into high school, I felt the pressure to 147 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,600 play a sport and I was like, all right, let me try tennis. 148 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,880 And I really liked it. But I, you know, I wasn't that 149 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,400 great. And so, you know, I never really 150 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,680 got to play any real matches. I was kind of a bench warmer, 151 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,160 kind of checked out of tennis until I moved to LA and that's 152 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,960 when I was like, I need to make some friends. 153 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,400 So I joined Gay Tennis League, made a ton of friends, and then 154 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,400 that's when like subscribe to Tennis Channel. 155 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,159 I was watching every single match. 156 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,400 I think we shared our love for live rankings. 157 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,200 I was constantly checking the rankings and you know what, what 158 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,560 scenarios are going to put people in the top ten and that 159 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:46,200 kind of stuff. You know, I was going crazy for 160 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,680 it and I started playing so much with Out Loud Sports Tennis 161 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:54,200 League that eventually our friend Nate was like, do you 162 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,080 just want to start helping out and running the league? 163 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,200 And I was like, all right. And so I became a manager and 10 164 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,320 years later still doing it. So yeah, it wasn't really until 165 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:09,840 the 2015 that I I really, I really dove in and fell in love 166 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,320 with the sport. That was a great time to do it 167 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,360 because that was Serena's last great year. 168 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,680 So it was really fun following her career in that way too, 169 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,880 because I've missed so much of Serena by not following tennis 170 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,400 for for so long. So I'm happy that I got to see, 171 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,800 you know, at least the tail end of it. 172 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,320 Yeah, well, and there were, you know, those, those 3 or 4 scrubs 173 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,520 over on the men's tour of Murray, Djokovic, Nadal and 174 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,560 Federer. But I mean, who cares about 175 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:38,400 that? Yeah, you have to see. 176 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,160 You have to see Serena. No, I love that because I, I, I 177 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,880 often say, hey, the gay community is one thing. 178 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,320 The tennis community is another. But the gay tennis community is 179 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,320 one of the things that I love the most because there is just, 180 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,920 there's something shared between those two things. 181 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,840 And one of the things that I, I also like to ask people on this 182 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,760 show is just why do we think that gay people love tennis so 183 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,680 much? Because it really is seen 184 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:06,240 differently than most other sports, just in my experience. 185 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:14,320 For me, I think growing up gay, you're kind of forced to 186 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:19,160 navigate, you know, with family, with friends, with school, and 187 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,680 then, you know, once you get a job, it's how do I fit in being 188 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:25,960 gay? And you're forced to navigate 189 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,600 those challenges on your own. And tennis is a solo sport. 190 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,280 And so I think that's one reason why so many people identify with 191 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:38,920 tennis is because of the solo aspect of it, which I think I'm 192 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,360 for a lot of gay people, doing things on your own and figuring 193 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,000 out life on your own is that's just that's everyday life. 194 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,440 And and then that's life on the tennis court too. 195 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,040 Is, is navigating challenges. It's like a puzzle. 196 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,280 You know what, how do I put the pieces together to beat this 197 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,480 opponent? It's, it's, it's really mentally 198 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,280 challenging. And I think gay people really 199 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,560 have that skill set just because of what it's like to grow up 200 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:08,120 gay. So I'm not going to make a 201 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,320 blanket statement, but I'm going to make a blanket statement. 202 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,920 So are we thinking being gay makes you better at tennis? 203 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,600 Because it's already second nature to figure things out? 204 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,200 Go it alone. Well, first of all, being gay 205 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:25,640 makes you better at anything so. You know, facts. 206 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:28,280 I mean, I naturally no lies detected. 207 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,480 OK, yes. So for anyone listening who 208 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,320 wanted to get involved with Out Loud Sports. 209 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,160 So Out loud Sports is not just in LA, right? 210 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,240 It's it's all over. No, I think it's more than 25 211 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,240 cities now. There's like 75,000 registered 212 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,720 players in the country who play with some out loud sports. 213 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,800 It was the first queer plus recreational league in the 214 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,520 country. So it's not just LA and it's 215 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,520 obviously not just tennis. There's volleyball, dodgeball, 216 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,320 bowling. Some cities have cornhole 217 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,880 pickleball. I'm going to. 218 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,160 Cut that out, Jane. Yeah, feel free. 219 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,960 Feel free to to edit that out. Yeah. 220 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,160 So so I I. We have to get along with our 221 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,960 pickleball brethren. It's fine. 222 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:17,040 It's fine. Listen, I, I, I have a, it's, 223 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,240 it's a sore subject for me, 'cause there I, some of my, my 224 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,880 closest tennis friends that I really enjoyed playing with all 225 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,360 the time I've lost to pickleball. 226 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:30,760 So, you know, fuck those guys. Well, you know what? 227 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,240 They're not on this show because this is not the Pickleball Boys. 228 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,280 They're not. They're not. 229 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,840 Suck it. All right, Amazing. 230 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,880 Let's do a quick speed round and then we'll get into what's been 231 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,240 going on with tennis. But speed round, Yannick? 232 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,800 Or Carlos, even though I know you're more WT gay. 233 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:50,480 This is not a speedy answer for me on on. 234 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,840 I'd rather watch Yannick play tennis. 235 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,560 I'm more interested in Carlos off the court. 236 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,160 That's a speedy. Answer. 237 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,520 I agree, yeah. Yeah, Yannick's not giving 238 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,000 anything off the court and Carlos is, but I I love 239 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,560 Yannick's tennis. Yeah, I've talked about this. 240 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:09,880 I mean, look, I'm a I'm a most squeaky wheel, but I still don't 241 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,800 understand why Yannick, for a moment was such a cultural 242 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,240 phenomenon with everyone wearing wigs and the Karata boys. 243 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:20,720 I'm like, he's giving us very little to grab onto to be so 244 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,400 culturally relevant all of a sudden. 245 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:32,320 But OK, favorite stroke? For for me to play, it's cross 246 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,880 court forehand, although I will say I played today and my drop 247 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:41,840 shots were on fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 248 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,080 And I, I, I mean, obviously drop shots are super exciting to see 249 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,120 in pro tennis too. So, so I love, I love that like, 250 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,880 I, I like Shay SUA all the way and like, love that love that 251 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,640 you've read Wanska. Like, I love those. 252 00:13:54,640 --> 00:14:00,880 Like, you know, tennis ninjas. Oh wow, yeah, I like. 253 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,160 Yeah, I like crafty tennis. That's really cool to me. 254 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,720 Yeah. I know that she's not what 255 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,200 beloved in some circles, but like, that's kind of why I like 256 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,040 Laura Seigman's game. Oh, I love her. 257 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,760 She's cool to me. Yeah, I I would never, if I was 258 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,120 a pro, I would never want to play her. 259 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,480 And I understand. Yeah, I understand why people 260 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,640 find her to be so annoying. But it's like, hey if, if that's 261 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,640 what her skill set is, then use it. 262 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,760 And you know, I don't know why you're gagging. 263 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,480 She brings it every time. OK, who's your boy tennis crush? 264 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,240 I mean, I feel like it's so basic to say Tommy Paul. 265 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:46,760 Hey, it's it's, it's Tommy Paul. Obviously Gregor, Gregor's, he's 266 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,200 been up there for a while, you know, it's. 267 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,360 Oh yeah, and he's back. He's back for. 268 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,600 Paris Yeah. Thanks, Tommy. 269 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,640 Paul I I feel the same way because it's me and every 13 270 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,400 year old girl squealing over Tommy Paul, which feels a little 271 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,760 like, but like, I mean, he and I got married. 272 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,800 I took his last name. He took my first name. 273 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,600 We're the Paul Pauls. And that's how it's going down 274 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,800 people. I like that. 275 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:14,400 And who is your girl crush? Just because I find her so 276 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,160 interesting on and off court is Sabalenka. 277 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:23,120 I'm I'm obsessed with Sabalenka. Just to see her unabashedly 278 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,000 living her best life, getting drunk, partying it up. 279 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,000 Like, I love that. That's if I was heard. 280 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,400 That's a padosa. Yes. 281 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,680 I mean, that's what I want to be doing too. 282 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,800 So yeah, I'm, I'm obsessed with Sapling. 283 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,160 I love her. Here's here's my thong and we 284 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,320 are white line wasted somewhere on a beach. 285 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:41,960 It was. Amazing. 286 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,760 Doing terrible TikTok dances. The worst. 287 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,640 Although, OK, I mean, I, we, we were going to talk about it in a 288 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,000 second, but at Wuhan, OK, I don't think she's getting enough 289 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,880 crap about when she threw that racket. 290 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,960 And it's it's unclear if she hit the ball kid or not. 291 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,800 It was very, very, very close. If someone else had done it, I'm 292 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,200 like if Ego had done it, if Coco had done it. 293 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,600 How did she get away with it? I First of all, I don't know how 294 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,320 it hasn't happened already with Sabalenka because she is so 295 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,480 expressive and has so many outbursts on court. 296 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,760 I've always kind of felt like she's going to throw a racket 297 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,680 someday and, you know, it happened, which sucks, but I 298 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,960 mean, yeah, she almost hit the ball, kid. 299 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,840 It's crazy. Yeah, she's had a a number of 300 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,560 gaffes over the years, like what happened after the French Open 301 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,360 when she wasn't the most gracious to Coco. 302 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,480 But this was something that felt a little it. 303 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,920 It felt like it if it didn't cross the line, it definitely 304 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,120 towed it. And I was just like, I don't, I 305 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,040 don't like this Sabalenka, which I know who gives a crap what I 306 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,360 like, but it just felt like it was too far. 307 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,760 Throwing a racket is completely different. 308 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,880 You know, that's, that's wild. That's wild. 309 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,720 It's like spiking a football. You don't know exactly where 310 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,560 it's going to go. So you hit, you throw a rack to 311 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,640 the ground, it's going to bounce somewhere we don't know where. 312 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,800 So yeah. Yeah. 313 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,680 Amazing. Well, that was new balls, 314 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,280 please. And now we are going to move 315 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,319 over to our lobs beans. And just as a reminder, the lobs 316 00:17:13,319 --> 00:17:16,319 be in is that thing that made us gayer for tennis since the last 317 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:19,200 show. There's quite a few. 318 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,800 We're going to post some of these to our Instagram and you 319 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,720 can check them out on our Instagram at TBB tennis. 320 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:29,560 That's at TBB as in the ball boys tennis. 321 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,800 But some highlights. I think this might have been my 322 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,120 lobby in last year, but I'm going to keep it there. 323 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:40,040 It's just the net rackets that the ball crew uses at the ersta 324 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,640 Open. So the ball kids they are 325 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,960 running around picking up the balls with it looks like a 326 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,400 butterfly net. The only thing that would make 327 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,320 it gay or is if they were skipping between like from line 328 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,040 to line to catch the balls. Like what? 329 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,960 What are they doing? I feel like it's completely 330 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,080 unnecessary. It doesn't gain you any 331 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,600 efficiencies if anything it makes it worse. 332 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,680 And I was looking it up I can't find a reason why it didn't 333 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,440 start during COVID. It started like 10 years ago. 334 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:14,800 My theory is that a tournament director at some point ordered 335 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:19,320 like lacrosse equipment and couldn't figure out a way to 336 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,720 return it. And so they're like, let how how 337 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,400 can we utilize these Nets and like, all right, give them to 338 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,720 the ball kids so they can use them. 339 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,240 I mean literally there is no other possible reason to use 340 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,280 them. Like why? 341 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,320 I think they just had them and they were like we must use 342 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,360 these. It's like the most archaic, the 343 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:40,480 rest of tennis is going towards AI and electronic line calling 344 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,320 and they're using just like a, a net to catch a like it just if 345 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,480 anything, give them a baseball glove. 346 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,240 But like a like, are you practicing your forehand by 347 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,680 catching it in a net? Like 'cause that's when I first, 348 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,240 when I was young, young, young, taking lessons, like we would 349 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,760 get a net and you would hit, you know, to, to catch the balls. 350 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,680 Also, just like, I mean, ersta is just like the the immature 351 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,160 mind that I sometimes have. I love that it was played in in 352 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,240 Wiener Stadium. And whenever anyone hit an ace, 353 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,240 ace in German is ASS. So on big letters it'd be like 354 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,680 ASAS. AS Wiener. 355 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,520 Yeah, that tickled my gay heart, made me a little. 356 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,240 Gay that's that's gay TP right there. 357 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Gay TP There you go. What about you? 358 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,600 Did you have a lobspin? So I think my loves being of the 359 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:39,960 week was probably Morgan Riddle. I think it was cool that she was 360 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,240 so vocal on No Kings Day. She was out there protesting the 361 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,840 T-shirt that said immigrants make this country great. 362 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:48,680 Oh, I was really happy to see that. 363 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,680 Love, love, love. Yeah. 364 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,200 But I'm bummed though to hear her talk about her tennis 365 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,680 content though when why she stopped posting it. 366 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,760 Tell me more. She said she stopped posting 367 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,400 tennis content and all the behind the scenes stuff because 368 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,240 she kept getting docked for copyright infringement. 369 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,920 They weren't letting her post her content. 370 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,320 Wait, who? Like the tennis, The like the. 371 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,640 Like the WTA, the the tournaments? 372 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,680 Yeah, they're they're so yeah. If are you on tennis Twitter? 373 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,240 I don't know what I'm on Twitter that has tennis. 374 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,360 Is that the same as tennis Twitter? 375 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,800 Yeah. So, yeah, so like the, the, the 376 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,080 tennis Twitter environment, like all, you know, the people who 377 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,080 contribute, but that's like one of the biggest complaints is 378 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:36,480 that they are so quick to take down people's footage for a 379 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,320 copyright violation. They want only their video to be 380 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,040 used, only their content to be used or licensed. 381 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:44,920 So, yeah, Morgan Riddle was like that. 382 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,320 Sorry. That's why I stopped posting. 383 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,240 It's ridiculous. But yeah, I kept getting flagged 384 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,520 for a copyright violation. Wow. 385 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,680 OK, yeah, no, but I do. I do love to see her at the No 386 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:58,040 Kings Rally because like tennis is one of the least political 387 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,720 sports as far as people using their voice so. 388 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,560 I mean, well, it should be, but it's not. 389 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,720 I mean, the the irony was not lost on me that the final of the 390 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,440 6th King slam was on the day of the No Kings March. 391 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,720 Like it's like, OK, like there's just a an indifference towards 392 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,520 some things. I want to throw in one more lobs 393 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,640 be in. I feel like it's my duty as a 394 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:24,120 gay man to talk about Andrea Pellegrini's underwear campaign. 395 00:21:24,120 --> 00:21:29,040 He finally gets one after years of posting some pretty thirsty 396 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,000 Instagram shots. And he is just the most stunning 397 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,400 guy. He plays most on the Challenger 398 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,200 tour. He's made the Bay TP on my show. 399 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Like I'm guilty I I'm powerless over some Italian gods 400 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,920 sometimes. But I got to say I was a little 401 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,920 underwhelmed by the campaign. As far as underwear campaigns 402 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,720 go, it's giving like, you know how like if you go to an outlet 403 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,280 mall, there's like the Haines store. 404 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,200 Yeah. That's, that's what it's it's 405 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,280 giving. And like the the awkward photo 406 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,760 of him and Fanini and their underwear in locker room. 407 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,280 Just like staring directly into each other's eyes and and. 408 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,080 It felt very it felt very photoshopped AI, very 409 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,120 artificial, didn't feel natural at all. 410 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,880 And maybe this is just the world we live in, but they kind of can 411 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,960 dolled him a little bit where it's just like, we're not going 412 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:22,000 to give any any essence of what's down there. 413 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,120 Versus if anybody needs to know what a real campaign looks like, 414 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:31,240 go check out Carlos Moya's campaign for to Exist. 415 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,000 It was around the turn of the century, you know, almost in the 416 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,240 1900s. And that they were just like, 417 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,680 yeah, this is what he looks like in these underwear. 418 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,880 And that's that's a real campaign real quick. 419 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,920 I think there was something about Lily Allen as a Lobs fan. 420 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,720 Are you following this crazy Lily Allen story? 421 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,320 This She just came out with her new album, which is a scathing 422 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,760 like breakup divorce album with David Harbour from Stranger 423 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,920 Things and she is not holding back. 424 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,960 I mean, she's talking about butt plugs and like the most specific 425 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,000 details ever. This album is intense. 426 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,760 It's an intense listen. But there's a song called Tennis 427 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,400 on it. And she, she talks about how, 428 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,760 you know, she first started to raise suspicions about him, like 429 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,920 violating the terms of whatever arrangement they had in their, 430 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,520 their open marriage where, you know, she, for whatever reason, 431 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,040 she had his phone and he took it away too quickly. 432 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,320 So she was suspicious and she went through his text and she 433 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,840 found out he was playing tennis with some girl named Madeline. 434 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,240 So the song is called tennis. And she's like, when, when the 435 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,840 fuck did you start playing tennis? 436 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,440 AB Why aren't you playing with me? 437 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,120 And see who the fuck is Madeline? 438 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,480 Wow. Yeah, so I was like, wow, tennis 439 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,400 even worked his way into this, this crazy Lily Allen, David 440 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,640 Harbour drama. I love, I love that I know I, I 441 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,200 think playing tennis is going to become my, my new code for like 442 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,160 when I don't want to tell someone I'm playing tennis 443 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,560 tennis. Tennis has gotten me out of a 444 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,800 few social engagements I did not want to be a part of, so it's oh 445 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,480 sorry, I had a tennis match that day. 446 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,280 Now it's time for Twitch, which is this week in tennis, covering 447 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,840 the news, the dudes, the feuds of the tour. 448 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,280 And just as a reminder, we can't possibly cover every match. 449 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,200 So if you're coming to us for the scores, you're going to be 450 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,080 more disappointed than I was that no player said anything 451 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,920 about playing in Saudi Arabia. And because it's Halloween and 452 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,320 we're doing a Halloween show, we're going to do twit based on 453 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,840 different horror movies. So the stories, the tournaments, 454 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,840 we're going to be comparing them to different horror movies and 455 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,680 genres. I want to start out with what 456 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,480 I'm calling the Long Walk. So the Long Walk was that movie 457 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,080 that just came out based on a really great Stephen King story 458 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,240 about teens who must just walk and walk and walk and walk. 459 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,080 And if they stop, they are quote UN quote eliminated. 460 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,960 And this season, this tennis season of 2025 can only be 461 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,360 described as the Long Walk. Since the last show, we've had 462 00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:21,640 more and more people joining the 2025 Tap Out Club, which was a 463 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,440 term I think coined by Dasha Kazakhina. 464 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,800 And they've decided to just eliminate the rest of their 465 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,600 season. So Kazakhina called it quits. 466 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,400 Emerado Kanu tapped out. Svidolina has tapped out on the 467 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,480 men's side. Tiafo has tapped out. 468 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,200 He's he's tapped out and he's gotten rid of his whole team. 469 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,160 He's coming back in 26, a whole new man 60 passes done. 470 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,880 Draper's out feasts was about to come back for Paris. 471 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,800 Decided no, not ready and we've got some other people like poor 472 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:58,520 Holger Rune just with a horrible injury and has to get his 473 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,600 Achilles tendon basically reattached and he's going to be 474 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:08,000 out for a pretty much probably the entire 2026 season again, 475 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,240 it's I'm a broken record and a squeaky wheel and a, you know 476 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,120 whatever bossy bottom. I'm not a bossy bottom, it's 477 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,280 where is the adult in the room who is going to step up and say 478 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,040 stop the insanity? But does someone need to get 479 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,840 even worse injured? Is someone going to die on 480 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,760 court? Heaven forbid? 481 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,520 I mean, what the hell. Like these players, they're just 482 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,120 like, I can't take it anymore. I've never understood why the 483 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:35,960 tennis season needs to be 11 months long. 484 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,520 No, no, it's, it's, it's too much for the players. 485 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,200 It's too much for spectators, for the fans. 486 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,480 Oh my God. Well, and then I was watching 487 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,840 part of Ningbo the last week and there were again, 12 people in 488 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,480 the stands. Nobody is going to these 489 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,120 tournaments to watch. We're just going to burn players 490 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:54,920 out. We're going to lose some 491 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,040 generational talents. But I just don't understand why 492 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,560 the tours can't see that and do something. 493 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,240 Yeah, I mean, it's just all about money. 494 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:11,000 Like they that's that's what they care about is making money. 495 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:17,280 But yeah, I mean, physically, mentally it's it's so taxing on 496 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,120 the players. And like I said, for the fans, 497 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:22,920 it's tough. I mean, I'm, I'm like Serena 498 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Williams after the US Open, I check out. 499 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,320 So I, I will follow religiously tennis from the Australian Open 500 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,560 to the US Open. And then after that, like the 501 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,600 rest of September, October, November, like I follow along. 502 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,760 But it's, I'm, I'm not invested like I am the rest of the year. 503 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,840 It it's just, it's too much. Yeah, the focus for the rest of 504 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,600 the year is no longer about the prestige of winning any specific 505 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,320 event. It's about trying to qualify for 506 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,840 the finals, which we saw with Rabachana. 507 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,200 As soon as she qualified for the finals, she tapped out of Tokyo. 508 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,240 She's like, OK, oh, sorry, I'm injured. 509 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,640 I don't believe she was injured for a second. 510 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,480 She's like, no, I made it, I'm done. 511 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:07,520 But it or it's about getting some points to get your ranking 512 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,280 up for the next year. I mean, it's it's it's much more 513 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,480 strategy LED than actually wanting to play to win. 514 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,960 And I hate watching tennis that is not about winning. 515 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,120 That's why I didn't love the six King Slam. 516 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:23,400 I mean, yeah, they made a butt load of money if you won the 517 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,160 whole thing, but if you didn't win the whole thing, you made 518 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,560 the same amount. It didn't matter. 519 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,480 They didn't care. Zverb didn't care. 520 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,240 Sitzipas didn't care. They made $1.5 million in under 521 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,320 2 hours and they were out. Carlos cannot care when it when 522 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,800 there's no points online. Yonic Center destroyed him in 523 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,760 the Six King Slam and it was just like, I don't like that 524 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,760 tennis. Yeah, I mean, I think there are 525 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:53,080 probably players who see it as an opportunity of like, oh, the 526 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,400 the top, the top players are are either not showing up or they're 527 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,240 dropping out. And it's an opportunity maybe 528 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:06,440 for someone like Vasher into when Masters 1000, you know, so, 529 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,520 so other players do get the opportunity to, you know, kind 530 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,760 of pounce and and seize that moment. 531 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,360 I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth because I loved the 532 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,840 Vashero story. I'm so happy that that happened. 533 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,600 Like that's amazing. And when the twist was revealed 534 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,120 that they were cousins, I mean that that is horror movie trope 535 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,560 one O 1 like Oh my God they're cousins. 536 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,680 And then they still made it to the final. 537 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,840 What amazing that was. That was probably like the 538 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,480 coolest story of the year. Yeah, absolutely amazing. 539 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,760 Well, in response to all these players tapping out and everyone 540 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,640 being tired, we're going to go on to our next horror movie of 541 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,160 Twitch, which is Get Out. The tours have magnanimously 542 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,440 decided to add another Masters 1000. 543 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,040 And this time it is in Saudi Arabia. 544 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,960 And I'm calling this get out because if I was over in Saudi 545 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,480 Arabia, that's what I'd be trying to do. 546 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,200 Because that is not a place for me. 547 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,120 That is a place where human rights are constantly at risk, 548 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,080 if not violated. It's tough for women. 549 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,720 It's tough for gays. It's tough for for sort of 550 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,880 Western society. And look, I know we are not 551 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,000 perfect. I am not in a perfect society 552 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,920 over here in America, but honestly, what the actual fuck 553 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,440 that now these players are going to be playing in a Masters when 554 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,600 there is no room in the season, so they're going to have to take 555 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,000 away something somewhere. But also that it's set there. 556 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,240 It's just reeking of sport washing. 557 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,640 And what really pisses me off is no one is addressing the human 558 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,120 rights issues. No one is saying a thing about 559 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,200 it. If anything, the ATP is 560 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,240 celebrating it like it's this great milestone. 561 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,600 And if anyone doesn't know, sport washing is basically using 562 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,280 sports to improve the PR of a nation. 563 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,680 It's often talked about with Saudi Arabia explicitly when 564 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,800 they tried to do the Liv Tour, which is the competitor to the 565 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,400 PGA. They've been trying to get 566 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,920 Formula One there forever. A lot of major sports 567 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,040 organizations don't go there because of this, because they're 568 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,640 human rights issues. But also I was talking to my 569 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,120 friend Ivy about this and yes it sucks that the ATP is going 570 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,640 there but what's the actually even worse is that the WTA 571 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,400 finals are already there which I think that sending the women 572 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,800 there, it's not a good look. It's just oil money. 573 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,080 I don't like it. They they know where their bread 574 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,280 is buttered. They're not going to bite the 575 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,160 hand that feeds them. They're not going to say, oh, 576 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,600 you know, I kind of did experience some weird vibes, you 577 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,440 know, while we were playing here. 578 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,360 Of course they're going to say, I felt, I felt great. 579 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,240 I felt fine. I felt respected. 580 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,480 Well, first of all, of course you were being respected. 581 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,240 It's, you know, the tournament who wants to, you know, save 582 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,280 face. So they're going to do 583 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,760 everything they can to make you happy. 584 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,520 That's no representation at all of what real life is for a woman 585 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,000 in Saudi Arabia. It's just such a bad look for 586 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,480 tennis. But tennis is so desperate to 587 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,400 enhance itself, especially in the US, popularity wise, 588 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,480 financially, you know, so they're like they're seizing on 589 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,800 that opportunity. I agree that that they are 590 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,720 trying to to grow the sport, but also tennis is on such an 591 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,480 upswing the Morgan riddles and with the the sort of Instagram 592 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,840 lifestyle at. I mean, I'll be honest, I don't 593 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,120 actually love going to many tournaments live right now 594 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,240 because of the crowds of people who don't know how to watch 595 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,560 tennis match because they'll talk the entire goddamn time. 596 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,280 There's no need for this. Tennis isn't suffering. 597 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,840 And but OK, if if they were going to take the funds created 598 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,800 at this new Saudi Arabia blood money Masters 1000, whatever the 599 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,600 title's going to be, we'll call it blood money. 600 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,800 I think, I think it's going to be the blood money open. 601 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:03,360 That's the. Bo the BMO the So OK, if they 602 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,240 were going to take that money and OK, we're going to we're 603 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,560 going to dedicate a certain amount to anyone who's ranked 604 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,640 under 150 because they're the ones struggling on tour. 605 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,400 OK, we're going to do something about human rights. 606 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,120 OK, this is not the equivalent, but the 6th King Slam. 607 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:24,080 I got the major X when Yannick Sinner won $6 million for 608 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,120 winning three non, not really exciting matches. 609 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,680 There's just something a little vulgar about that. 610 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,520 And I'm vulgar. You should see me at the Eagle. 611 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:37,960 I'm disgusted. But that that was just like, I 612 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,680 don't know it just I get the X all around. 613 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,200 It's, it's so egregious. I mean, and it's like they, it 614 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,200 would be one thing if they they were doing this and being like, 615 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,920 hey, we recognize there are some issues in this country. 616 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,480 This is how we're trying to improve. 617 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,120 We would love for you to come over here and, you know, 618 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,880 experience the change. But it's like what, what is the 619 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,960 change that you're making? You're not doing anything there. 620 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:10,600 You're you're just paying big names to come and play a big 621 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,880 sport and, you know, be flashy about it. 622 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,679 It's, it's all, it's all sport watching. 623 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,480 It's it's just a cover up. Yeah, yeah. 624 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,480 The last thing I'm going to say about 6 Kings is they better 625 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,040 work on that security because there was that moment when that 626 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,840 kid ran on the court and wanted Yanuk Sinner's jacket and was 627 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,480 just like touching him, poking at him, being like me, me, give 628 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560 me that, give me that. And Yanuk was like, I need my 629 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,800 jacket. Have they not heard of Monica 630 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,520 Selas? You can't just allow anyone to 631 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,000 run on court, even if they're like the son of a Sheik or 632 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,719 whatever. I thought maybe it was the 633 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,840 graphic designer who did those promo posters using. 634 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,719 AII thought he was. I thought he was coming out to 635 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,159 apologize to everyone, but you know that that wasn't the case. 636 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,639 Those those Harry Potter looking. 637 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:56,600 Yeah. Posters were something else for 638 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,440 sure. When they had to put Taylor 639 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,280 Fritz on the poster and someone just googled white man and the 640 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,920 first the 1st result they're like oh this must be Taylor. 641 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,840 Fritz was that who was. Fritz. 642 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,560 That was not Taylor Fritz, that was that was Blaylor Blitz. 643 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,440 That was like an AI. What do they call AI? 644 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,840 No slop. That was just. 645 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,840 Some, yeah. Question for you though, I do 646 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,080 love the idea of of switching up the Masters a little bit. 647 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,920 Where should a Masters 1000 show up next if it was going to go 648 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,800 somewhere? I say let's go to Hawaii, let's 649 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,320 have a fun Hawaiian tournament. I would like to go to Hawaii and 650 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,440 watch some tennis, make a little vacation out of it. 651 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,600 That is a great idea. The lava. 652 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,520 The lava Open. The lava open. 653 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,760 Sponsored by King's Hawaiian Rolls. 654 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,560 And Hawaiian Tropic suntan lotion. 655 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,760 Yeah, for sure. I'd love that. 656 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,960 I've never been. Have you been to Hawaii? 657 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,960 I've never been. Yeah, Maui. 658 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,280 Maui is my jam. We went, we went the summer 659 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,960 before the fires there. So I'm, I'm glad I got to 660 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:10,640 experience that area where, you know, it was it was so cool. 661 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,960 It was so cool. Like Lahaina, like, yeah, I 662 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,160 can't believe what happened there. 663 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,960 But yeah, let's let's, let's bring tennis to Hawaii. 664 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,520 Oh, I love that. I thought you were going to be 665 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,040 like, it should be a grass tournament or it should be in 666 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,680 South America, like everyone's saying. 667 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,000 There's no grass 1000 tournament. 668 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,000 Let's let's do that too. Yeah, or grass. 669 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,960 On Hawaii they got great grass. Perfect. 670 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,600 A Hawaii. Grass tournament. 671 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:47,840 Oh, instead of the Yeah, hey. Let's make it happen. 672 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,680 Yeah. Oh, my God. 673 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,000 A cause also. Yeah. 674 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,440 Like, why is grass only? I mean, there's Newport, but I 675 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,160 mean, there's grass is only over in Europe. 676 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,480 But we got grass. I love our grass. 677 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,760 American Grass. Is, I mean, is it, is it because 678 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,280 it's so it creates such a risk for injury that the grass season 679 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,040 is so short? I don't. 680 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,120 I think it's more that they are catering to people's backgrounds 681 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,720 and most people don't grow up on grass. 682 00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:18,080 I mean, grass used to be grass, used to be the US open, it used 683 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,200 to be the Australian Open, it used to be everywhere. 684 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,880 People just stopped playing on it. 685 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,960 My contention is it's hard to transition onto grass and to 686 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,320 transition onto clay from hard 'cause it is just so slippery, 687 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,320 so different, and it's also just expensive. 688 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,120 There's a drought. There's it's. 689 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,600 Hard. It's hard to upkeep. 690 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,920 I mean, Wimbledon by Week 2 is kind of fugly. 691 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,480 Nasty, Yeah. Doesn't photograph well. 692 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,040 No, she she's, she's getting a little busted at Why don't they 693 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:53,000 have green spray paint just to cover the like just make it 694 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,440 green, even if it's not grass. Give us an illusion. 695 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,440 Have you not seen a drag queen? We can do it. 696 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,200 Beat that mug. Beat the mug of center. 697 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,880 Quote Wimbledon Hello and then have a grass reveal. 698 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:12,960 Yes, yes, get Gotnik out there to spruce up the core by by that 699 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,160 second week. Yes, get them all out there. 700 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,680 Have like an entire like ball crew of drag Queens. 701 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,480 See, between this and the Hawaiian Open, we should we 702 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,560 should be working. This is innovation. 703 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,480 This is where we go. I mean, come on, I want, I want 704 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,280 Willow Pill to be throwing me the ball. 705 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,760 I want her to be catching it in a net, falling over. 706 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,000 It'll be great. The next horror movie trope is 707 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:41,000 just The Purge. So the Purge is a movie based 708 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,960 around one day of the year. Anything is allowed. 709 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,960 And apparently that one day of the year is going to be the week 710 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,320 before the Australian Open going forward. 711 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,600 Because the tours again their their their innovation idea is 712 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,160 different than ours. They are introducing the 713 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:02,400 $1,000,000 one point slam where an amateur, if you win a point 714 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,400 you will win $1 million. It's more you have to win 715 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,640 basically like 3 to 4 different one point matches. 716 00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:13,040 But it's going to be a mix of amateurs and professional 717 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,720 players including Carlos Alcaraz. 718 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,640 Like Carlos sit this one out like girl. 719 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,720 Also, if Carlos wins the $1,000,000 ick, you don't need 720 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:25,520 the money and just let. Does he get he gets the money if 721 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,760 he wins? I'm not 1000% sure if the pros 722 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,880 if the pro wins if they get the $1,000,000. 723 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,880 They should be forcing the pros to be playing for a charity. 724 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,720 Like don't give them the money. That's come on. 725 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,880 It's take a charity. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 726 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,040 The ball, boys, we need it. I mean, come on. 727 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,840 But also, it's just blurring the line. 728 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,120 It feels a little bit like when Bill Ackman was playing this 729 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,920 summer with Jack Sock in that professional Double S 730 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,640 tournament. And you know, for one day you 731 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,320 can play. It's like, do you buy your way 732 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,120 in? And I, it's just, I don't know. 733 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,760 But then I was thinking like, OK, can you pick who you play 734 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,640 against 'cause if double faults count, then I want to play 735 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,280 against Coco Goff. Smart, smart. 736 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,080 Play your cards right. One of those cards, right? 737 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:16,040 Who do you think you could take a point off of? 738 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:21,800 So I'm, I'm, I'm pretty confident I could return Sarah 739 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:28,800 Arani's serf. Maybe it's the maybe it's 740 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,400 delusion, but I, I think no, that is a beautiful call. 741 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,320 I have to put my money there. That's, that's, that's what I'm 742 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,960 going with Sarah Arani. I actually think that if you 743 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,400 can't return her serve, there's got to be. 744 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,840 More out punishment. You should have to pay 745 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,920 $1,000,000, yeah. Yeah, it's not just that you 746 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,920 didn't win $1,000,000, but like the shame woman from Game of 747 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,160 Thrones. Will come out. 748 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,280 Name. I like how we both based our 749 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,440 answers on serve. Yeah, exactly. 750 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,480 Against women. I mean, look at us. 751 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:07,960 Look at us gentlemen over here. So the biggest tournament on the 752 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,520 on the men's side since the last show, what's the Shanghai Open? 753 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,320 It ended like a week and a half ago. 754 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,320 So in the tennis world, that's already old news. 755 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,200 There was so much that went on at Shanghai. 756 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,080 I'm calling it the Labour Cup, like the Labour Cup, but just 757 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,480 everyone was laboring all over that goddamn court. 758 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,920 It was so hot in Shanghai. How hot was it? 759 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,320 No, I don't have a joke lined up for that, like Jay Leno, but it 760 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,760 was so fucking hot. Everyone is passing out. 761 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,240 It was like The Walking Dead. Players literally couldn't 762 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:41,760 breathe. During one of his matches, Novak 763 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,400 had to clean up his own vomit twice, Twice. 764 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,080 I mean, which also like, hey, that man has made almost $200 765 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,720 million, and he's going to he's going to wipe up his own slop. 766 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,040 There was this one really horrible moment where I think it 767 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:02,200 was Martin Fuksevich who was just passed out and no one was 768 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,760 really helping him. They're waiting for the medical 769 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,760 team to get out. And you could just see, like a 770 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,360 cameraman standing over him, like filming it. 771 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,000 And it's like, dude, put the camera down. 772 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,560 Maybe help or get Water Chair Empire do something. 773 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,920 It was just kind of like horrifying. 774 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,560 But then we got that twist that no one saw coming. 775 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,880 The cousins, you know, they come out of nowhere. 776 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,680 You could not write that. I was like, what in the West 777 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,000 Craven is going on that they both make they both become the 778 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,840 final girl. They they Vanquish all 779 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,400 opponents, they defy all the odds. 780 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,720 No one would have thought that this would have been have A 781 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,920 twist. It's like, it's like the others 782 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,760 your favorite horror movie. Like, Oh my God, the others won 783 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,680 like they were ghosts all along. Like how did they get to that 784 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,520 final? It was amazing. 785 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,320 Yeah. And I like that. 786 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,680 It's actually like a family rivalry that is playing out 787 00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:04,360 because we don't really get to see that. 788 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,720 I mean, the Andreva sisters are are they don't have that. 789 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,960 The Pushkuba sisters never had that. 790 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,360 So it's cool that it's it could actually be happening. 791 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,080 It has happened. And, you know, hopefully that 792 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,840 they can continue to to play that level in the future so that 793 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,240 that family drama, you know, keeps happening. 794 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,680 It was such an amazing sort of run of fate though, that they 795 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,400 weren't going to meet earlier. Rinder Tech had to beat Djokovic 796 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:37,280 in the semi and Medvedev was playing against Vesheroi and his 797 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,440 semi. Like there was no one was 798 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,680 predicting that they were going to make it to that final. 799 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,120 And it was quality. It was a quality match. 800 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,080 I thought they were both going to maybe choke because it was 801 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,160 such a big stage. I. 802 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,840 Think they brought they brought the best out of each other. 803 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,000 Yeah, yeah. And, and just I've been, I've 804 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,320 been really loving this trend of really emotional trophy 805 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,720 ceremonies the second-half of this year, guys openly crying. 806 00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:09,640 I love when a man shows emotion. And there's been a lot of tears. 807 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,760 Even just today when Joao Fonseca beat divided Shukina. 808 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,480 His parents had flown in. He was crying. 809 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,680 Just talk. He's like, I can't look at you, 810 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,720 but I will say this. Like, I'm so happy to be your 811 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,840 son. Like, it was just tears. 812 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,880 Tears. Yeah. 813 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,360 I mean. Nothing is worse than sitting 814 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,280 through like a Yannick Sinner acceptance speech. 815 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:35,120 So, you know, I it's, it's, and we see so many of them because 816 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,960 he wins so much. So it's, it's good. 817 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,440 It's good to actually see emotion. 818 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,520 You know, The funny thing about Sinner is that he's he seems 819 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,880 much more emotive in other languages. 820 00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:46,520 It's really. English. 821 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:52,160 Where he's the least and and it's funny because over the 822 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,520 summer when he put out that weird musical single with Andrea 823 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,480 Bocelli, his lines were in English and they sounded so 824 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,960 flat. I was like, why aren't you just 825 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,720 speaking in Italian or any of the other languages? 826 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,160 So Shanghai, though, question for you 'cause there were so 827 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,600 many different horror movie tropes and twists and whatever, 828 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,680 I couldn't figure out which horror movie was it. 829 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,880 I was thinking like, is it Happy Death Day? 830 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,160 Have you seen Happy Death Day? I haven't known, but it's you're 831 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,800 not the first person to recommend it. 832 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,920 It's so good, it's so queer. It's this girl. 833 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,040 She gets killed every day over and over again, and then she 834 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,000 wakes up again the same day only to get killed again. 835 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:34,600 It was kind of like Groundhog Day, but with murder. 836 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,440 I loved it. Or is it like Final Destination, 837 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,720 where you survive this one round, but then fate and death 838 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:44,160 will get you the next round? Is it Krampus? 839 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,920 I mean, it's not about Christmas, but everyone's just 840 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,320 cramping, Is it the others? Could the the others won? 841 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,400 I mean, if you were to sum up, what was the horror movie? 842 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,200 I, I think it's final destination and I'm, I think I 843 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:03,560 say that because when it is that hot and that humid, I question 844 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,120 any player who wears white shorts. 845 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,080 What are you thinking wearing white shorts in that 846 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,160 environment? First of all, I don't get white 847 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,720 shorts in general because you're really putting yourself in the 848 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:23,720 position for a public sharding incident and on a national 849 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:25,240 stage. Everybody is watching. 850 00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:27,800 I is. That what you. 851 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,400 Worry about I I always think about what would happen if one 852 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,840 of these players sharded and they're wearing white shorts. 853 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,240 I don't get it. You know you're going to be 854 00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:38,640 completely see through by the end of the mass. 855 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,200 I'm not complaining. But I'm not waiting for like the 856 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,440 the the con yes, it's like it's on me it. 857 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,280 Sounds great. The sharding is the only 858 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,880 negative possible scenario in this. 859 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,480 In this, Yeah, but but other than that, like, I guess they 860 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,600 really just don't care that they're showing everyone 861 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,400 everything. Good for them, good for her. 862 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,400 Atta girl OK and so because of the the white sharding, its 863 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,280 final destination. OK, yes, yes, they they survived 864 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,280 another round of wearing white white shorts without incident. 865 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,600 Yeah, well, and and and also cause only one survived. 866 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,760 Everyone else is dead by the end of the tournament. 867 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,800 So yeah, its final destination baby. 868 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,240 The real quick a few other movies. 869 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:21,120 I know we're going a little long, but hey, that's what she 870 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,120 said. The so we also just had the 871 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,320 Human Centipede, which I'm just calling the mash up, the 872 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,440 stitching up of 25 hundreds of Vienna and Basel. 873 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,080 They both just ended today. I love 500 level tournaments. 874 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,280 I'm I'm putting together my calendar for next year and I'm 875 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,400 going to try and travel to at least two or three 500 level 876 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,320 tournaments because the draws are amazing. 877 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,880 So we had the 2 finals today in Human Centipede terms. 878 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:55,320 We had Joao Fonziner took down Alejandro Dosvarovic, Volcina in 879 00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:00,560 both matches and mashed them up. So we had Joel Fonseca taking on 880 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,400 Alejandro de Vitochina in Basel and he won. 881 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:09,400 And then in Vienna, Sinner took down Zverev in Basel. 882 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,640 We had a bit of a Swiss miss in the quarters. 883 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,800 Three out of the four quarters were retirements. 884 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:21,320 And this is where, as a fan, if I did fly all the way over to 885 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,840 Switzerland to go to this tournament, I'm going to get 4 886 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,640 popcorn matches and I get a drizzle. 887 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,800 I would be so pissed. It's like, come on, there's I 888 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,240 feel like there are a lot more walkovers and retirements than 889 00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:37,880 ever before and, and, and that, that's got to stop. 890 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,960 But poor ADF, Alejandro de Vidich Fukina. 891 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,760 This is his fourth final of the year, his 5th overall. 892 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:51,440 He's the highest ranked player by far without a title in his 893 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,800 career. I feel like he's a little 894 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,240 cursed. What can he do to reverse his 895 00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:59,440 curse in 2026? I don't know, stop wearing that 896 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:04,240 stupid arm sleeve. I hate that arm sleeve. 897 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,040 He's another one who like maybe a little bit of Nick curious 898 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,960 vibes where, I don't know. I just feel like, is he ever 899 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,880 really going to get there or is he going to waver in the middle 900 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,800 forever? I feel like that's probably 901 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,320 what's going to happen to him. Yeah, I agree. 902 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,720 I I had the same thought fashion wise because he he also has a 903 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:27,280 superstition of wearing one black and 1 white sock. 904 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,640 He's been doing that for a decade. 905 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,640 And OK, that's dumb. He needs to stop doing that and 906 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,640 I hope he loses every match until he changes that. 907 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,960 Well, I was going to say, I don't think that that's working 908 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:40,520 if that's. Just. 909 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,280 Superstition bro maybe. Pick a new one. 910 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:49,840 Next final like because it's not helping right now yeah it's I 911 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,080 just feel so bad for him because he's got a lot of talent he's 912 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:59,240 got a lot of power but he just comes up short and today I got 913 00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:03,480 to say Fonseca really impressed me I was sort of in the he's a 914 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,600 little over hyped camp for most of this year but today his serve 915 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,080 he was hitting serves over 140 miles an hour at his cross court 916 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,360 forehand you as a cross court forehand. 917 00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:18,080 I would love to see you and he match cross core 4 hands it'd 918 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,640 be. Yeah, I don't, he's not ready 919 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,320 for this. He's not ready for this. 920 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,960 Yeah, Yeah, but no, he's yeah, just a little bit longer. 921 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,040 But I, I think the, the crowds that he brings to his matches, 922 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,480 it would be very cool to experience in person. 923 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,040 So I I would like to see hit one of his matches sometime. 924 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,680 Yeah, the Brazilian audience like like no other. 925 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,160 We haven't had a ton of top, top Brazilians. 926 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,640 Last one I can really remember is Quertin, and that was 20 927 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,960 years ago. Google, but I'm not sure who 928 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,120 else has been top. Top from Brazil. 929 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,200 And yeah, they make every match of his a home match. 930 00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,240 It's wild. Yeah. 931 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,240 Yeah, I want to experience this. Yeah, I mean, at the same time I 932 00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:05,880 get so annoyed when idiots behind me are talking about 933 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,000 Uncle Charlie's hernia operation, but they seem to be 934 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,160 doing it right, where they'll chant and cheer at the right 935 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,440 times. Yeah, yeah, like I'm not going 936 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,000 to sit there and have the Corona boys behind me. 937 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,240 I'd be way too annoyed with that. 938 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,480 But give me some like loud, fun Brazilians who are making the 939 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,040 match better. That's what I want. 940 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,880 I don't want, I don't want loud, annoying people. 941 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,480 I want loud and motivating people. 942 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,720 Yes, 100% over to the ladies. What's been going on in the WTA? 943 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:36,960 We had Wuhan where Coco Goff just went to town on the entire 944 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,720 field. She blitzed everyone. 945 00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:43,320 She won all of her matches in straight sets, her serve, her 946 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,960 forehand. So I'm calling this one the 947 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,360 Invasion of the Body Snatchers, 'cause she switched places with 948 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,480 somebody. I don't know who, I don't know 949 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,920 how she did it, but since the US Open to this, that's basically 3 950 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,840 tournaments, she just hit everyone off the court and she 951 00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,320 looks great again. I mean, amazing. 952 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,200 She's won her first nine hard court finals now, the first time 953 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,640 anyone's done it since Serena. So look at that. 954 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,280 I I've always said it must be really tough if Coco is your 955 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:19,880 fave because she will have a string of really poor 956 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,440 performances and poor tournaments and then she'll have 957 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,680 one like this where she completely dominates and you're 958 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,440 so excited all over again. It's such a roller coaster to be 959 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,240 a Coco fan. Absolutely. 960 00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:32,640 And we've said on the show also, she's kind of like the queen of 961 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,000 winning ugly. And I don't love ugly tennis. 962 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,840 I think it's great to have that. Like mentally she is so strong, 963 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,720 but it's not that much fun to watch two players hit with over 964 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:45,680 50 unforced errors. And that's not the she did. 965 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,040 That was not what happened this time. 966 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,720 She did not win ugly. She won drop dead gorgeous and 967 00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:54,720 that was that was that doesn't. Happen doesn't happen that often 968 00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:56,760 for her so. Yeah. 969 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,440 Yeah, that was hopefully she can seep that momentum. 970 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:09,240 Yeah, we'll ride. It into Saudi Arabia, yeah, we 971 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:13,560 also had the Japan Open that also just ended late last night 972 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:20,160 where the bench Belinda bench beat Linda Nuskova and I'm 973 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,400 calling this one the Invisible Man because none of Linda 974 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,480 Nuskova's opponents showed up so she had to win a grand total of 975 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,480 1 match to make it to the final because everyone either retired 976 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,600 or withdrew and she doesn't win. I know that was going to say and 977 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,960 she and she didn't always. Yeah, I guess she was from not 978 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,880 playing. I like her. 979 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,240 First of all, I like that her name is Linda. 980 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,360 It's very unassuming name like Linda. 981 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,720 Like that's all right. We'll, we'll roll with that 982 00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:51,760 Linda. But I, I mean, I think she is 983 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:57,480 kind of doing what people think Mira Andreva is doing, but like 984 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,760 actual executing just more on like a slow burn. 985 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,160 Nosova had that amazing Australian Open 2024 where she 986 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,360 beat Shiontech. I think she'll be a force to be 987 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,240 reckoned with. I just think she's having a lot 988 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,000 more of a slow burn to get there. 989 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,600 Yeah, I, I, I agree Linda's a good name. 990 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,120 I think Belinda is a good name too. 991 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:23,600 I love a Belinda, Belinda Mitch, but I do I love a Czech Gurley. 992 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:30,240 And I got to say I was intrigued and excited, titillated, 993 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,840 bemused, bewildered at the first round matchup between von 994 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,240 Druseva and Mukova, 'cause I love, I love these Czech 995 00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:39,000 girlies. And then, of course, one of them 996 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,480 retired. I don't even know which one at 997 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:41,640 this point. I don't even care. 998 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,120 It's always going to be one of them. 999 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,520 They don't know which one retired. 1000 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,400 They don't know which one. There is a curse on these Czech 1001 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,480 women, like somebody needs to check for a witch's spell 1002 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,800 because one of them is always injured, if not all of them. 1003 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,000 It's like the Macbeth witches, those two and Krajikova. 1004 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,160 They've got brittle bone disease, They've got avian bird 1005 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,400 bones. Whatever it is, they are just, 1006 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,760 they are. They are so delicate, which is 1007 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,960 so frustrating because they're so fucking good. 1008 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:14,040 They are so good. Them at their peak, they can 1009 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,320 beat anybody. It just it. 1010 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,280 It breaks my poor gay heart watching them. 1011 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,040 Yeah, the the Czech women need to have like a they need to 1012 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,160 regroup. They need to have a team 1013 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,280 meeting, figure their shit out, figure out what vitamins they 1014 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,800 need to start taking to be healthier. 1015 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,360 Yeah. Is it something in the water? 1016 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,000 What is it? Because it's just or did they 1017 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,240 like? Yeah, it's training something. 1018 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,040 Kavitiva was their their fearless leader, and now that 1019 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,680 she's bowing out there, they don't know what to do. 1020 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,080 Yeah. Oh, and cute news. 1021 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,280 Kavitiva announced she's having her second child, so that's 1022 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,080 exciting. Congratulations, Petra. 1023 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,800 I know you're listening. So come on the show. 1024 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,000 Bring the kids. Well, that was our our horror 1025 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,840 movie themed roundup of Twit and just a few more things. 1026 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,320 So we've got a new BAE TP Look, we're always going to be rating 1027 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,680 and ranking the men because that's what we do. 1028 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,680 You know, you talked about the live ratings earlier. 1029 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:16,840 Like I love any ranking. And so the BAE TP it's based on 1030 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,680 performance on and off the court. 1031 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,880 If you win a tournament, if you're in vogue, if you beat 1032 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:26,320 Sverrev, you get BAE TP points. So go over to our Instagram, see 1033 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,080 the full list. It's at TBB tennis. 1034 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,160 That's at TBB as in the ball boys tennis and you will see. 1035 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,880 And no surprise, the cousins calling them cousin hit after 1036 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,200 cousin hit. They are at the top of the 1037 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,360 leaderboards of the Bay. TP Vashiro and Rindra connect, 1038 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,360 but see who else is there and let us know if we missed 1039 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,480 anybody. We are going to end the show 1040 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,680 with a segment called She Already Done Had Curses, which 1041 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:58,720 is based on Ru Paul's saying Sheridan had herses because 1042 00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:02,160 sometimes the only thing harder to break than Sasha Booblick 1043 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,960 serve is a curse. And we have seen some real 1044 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,240 haunted happenings on the tour. And so we're going to talk about 1045 00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:11,480 some of those curses in this segment. 1046 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,480 First up, we've got the Scream franchise, both the original and 1047 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,880 the reboot. And this was surprising because 1048 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:24,280 I played a game of name that grunt maybe a year ago where I 1049 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,360 asked people, hey, who is this player based on this grunt? 1050 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:34,120 And people got the Rublevs, they got the Sabalenkas, They did not 1051 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:39,000 get the Monica Sela's because they don't know the herstory. 1052 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,880 There's a gap. There's a gaping hole that I am 1053 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,400 going to fill. And and so starting with the 1054 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:50,960 curse of Monica Sela, she was stabbed April 30th, 1993 while 1055 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,600 playing a match in Hamburg, Germany. 1056 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:58,240 An obsessed fan of her rival Steffi Graf during a changeover. 1057 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,640 Got to the the side of the court and at that time the seats were 1058 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,240 close enough that you could just reach over and touch them. 1059 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,400 Stabs her in the back and she is out for two years. 1060 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,520 It wasn't the worst injury ever, but psychologically it was. 1061 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,160 I mean, she was 19 at the time. She never fully recovered from 1062 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,640 that trauma. She did win one more Grand Slam, 1063 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,800 which was great. I fucking loved her so much. 1064 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,400 I still love her to this day. So that was the original Scream 1065 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,080 Scream reboot. Patrick Kavitova, who we were 1066 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:31,680 just talking about, victim of a home intrusion in 2016 where a 1067 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,120 knife wielding intruder attacked her, end up stabbing her in the 1068 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,920 hand she got. She's a lefty. 1069 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,880 She was stabbed in the hand. And she did return maybe 5 or 6 1070 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,200 months later, had some good performances. 1071 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,880 But the Scream franchise is alive and kicking. 1072 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,560 I hope there are no more sequels. 1073 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,560 I hope this is the the end of it. 1074 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,320 I do love Scream movies. I do not love Scream in tennis, 1075 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,800 but that's a curse. The next one is the Netflix 1076 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,000 curse. People like Bedosa, Ayla, Tom 1077 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,240 Yanovich, Nick Curios, all featured on that show, and 1078 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,400 particularly after the first season, their performances 1079 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,560 sucked. At the 2023 Australian Open, all 1080 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,720 10 of the players featured in the first episodes were 1081 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,240 eliminated early in the tournament. 1082 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,000 And everyone's like, that's the Netflix curse, the break Point 1083 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,400 curse. Did you watch that show Break 1084 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,880 Point? I I kind of knew what it was 1085 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,320 going to be and I was, I was not interested. 1086 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:34,160 I think it's really hard to do a tennis show because I definitely 1087 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,280 don't want to watch ATV show that is new about what happened 1088 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,760 last year because production and interviews and editing and all 1089 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:45,600 that, like it wasn't real time. I I guess I'll relive the 2022 1090 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,440 U.S. Open third round. 1091 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:52,240 Yeah, yeah, I've, I've had that same problem with the 400 1092 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,440 different documentaries that Serena Williams has put out 1093 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,080 where, Yeah, first of all, sometimes it's I'm like, did you 1094 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,840 not remember this correctly? Because this is not in the order 1095 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,920 that it happened. Yeah, there, there. 1096 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,680 There's not. A lot of fact checking going on 1097 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:12,160 in some of these documentaries, but yeah, I, I, it's hard to 1098 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,240 like, go back and see documentary about last year's 1099 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,760 headlines. The next curse is the one slam 1100 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,440 wonders. So the Juan Martin del Potro's 1101 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,520 Devon Drusova, who we just talked about Bianca Andrescu, 1102 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,760 Dominic team, who by the way, he's on our BTP this week 1103 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,600 because he looked great in the stands and at at Basel. 1104 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,000 But they all win one slam and then plagued by injuries for the 1105 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,600 rest of their career and sometimes reaching the pinnacle 1106 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,840 of the sport is all that it takes to unleash a curse. 1107 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,600 And so they've all got the curse of the One Slam wonder. 1108 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:48,880 It's. Rough. 1109 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,920 And it's it's funny because Bianca not only just got that 1110 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,720 one slam, she had a great year that year. 1111 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,360 That whole year was amazing for her. 1112 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,760 She's one where I think I've struggled the most to understand 1113 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,400 like how why can't you get that form back? 1114 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,920 She won so young that I she even said after winning she wasn't as 1115 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,000 motivated. Like she kind of, she needed a 1116 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,960 moment, she needed like a an Ash party reset, which she got, but 1117 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,680 then her body just didn't cooperate. 1118 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,400 Yeah, yeah, and I think she's a two hit wonder, but I don't see 1119 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:24,440 Krichika winning another slam. Yeah, I mean, she she will sneak 1120 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,000 in if if the door opens, but I don't think she's going to push 1121 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,080 the door open herself. Yeah, I would. 1122 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,360 Agree. I would agree, yeah. 1123 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,000 I would rather see Marqueta win another one, yeah. 1124 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,880 Yeah. Just based on what she did to 1125 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,640 Rebeccahna at the US Open just now in in the quarterfinals that 1126 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:46,080 match, she was so good. I was like, there's my girl. 1127 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,080 There is that. Yeah. 1128 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,360 Yeah, and the final curse of Sheridan had curses. 1129 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,560 I'm just calling the Gremlins, which is just anyone and 1130 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,160 everyone who is in that next Gen. who tried to breakthrough 1131 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,240 but ultimately could not because they were going up against 1132 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:06,080 Roger, Rafa and Novak, Anne Marie and Vavrinka. 1133 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,440 I'm going to throw Vavrinka in there just because he's the man. 1134 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,360 But that's all of them. That's this Vera's, that's the 1135 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:17,520 city passes the Nishikori's, but just a cursed generation of, of 1136 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,280 Grand Slam champions who will never be Grand Slam champions. 1137 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,480 The Baratinis, they all could have won one or two, but they 1138 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:29,000 just they were cursed to be born when they were born 'cause I 1139 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:34,120 think that the peak peaks at Tsipas could have won a a Grand 1140 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,640 Slam in in a different generation. 1141 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,360 So that's a. Curse. 1142 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,160 Yeah. And I wonder if if years from 1143 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,560 now there's going to be a new set of gremlins, which are the 1144 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,640 men's players today who are never able to breakthrough Ionic 1145 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,880 and Carlos. Oh, that door is being slammed 1146 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,760 shut. It's tough because it's just the 1147 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,880 top 2. So those two are going to be on 1148 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,600 either side of the draw at all times. 1149 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,800 When it's three sometimes like, you know, the two of them off to 1150 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,400 eat each other. So yeah, it with. 1151 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,400 Just the two it's, it's going to get boring, I think. 1152 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,680 And I think people are going to get, I think people are going to 1153 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,840 get sick of it real fast. I'm a broken record, but every 1154 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,400 day, every show, I'm like look, look to the gay community. 1155 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,160 Open up your relationship. When it's 2, it gets stale. 1156 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,720 They need a third. We got to find a third in 2026. 1157 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:23,520 So everybody get on Grinder, find that third for them. 1158 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:29,800 I I would I have one more curse. I I thought of a few minutes ago 1159 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,560 and I'm I think it's going to be final destination vibes, just 1160 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,680 like like the really bad misfortune of it all in like 1161 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:43,080 wrong place, wrong time. And that is Naomi Osaka's draws 1162 01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,480 in these tournaments since coming back from maternity 1163 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:52,360 leave, I think she had a a really tough string of, of 1164 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,680 really bad draws and and then of course, being completely stifled 1165 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,200 by working with Patrick Murata group. 1166 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,480 Thankfully the curse is broken I think. 1167 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,520 But yeah. Was really unlucky for like a 1168 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:09,560 year and a half. I I totally agree her her return 1169 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,520 was a lot longer than needed to be. 1170 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,400 I'm so glad you met. But yeah. 1171 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:18,120 Yeah, I, I don't know how, if any, if any part of it was like, 1172 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,240 oh, I was amazing, I'm still going to be amazing. 1173 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:26,200 And then that kind of never sunk in after like a year. 1174 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,440 If that was just like a bitter pill for her to swallow. 1175 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:34,400 I I think a big part of it was just her completely stifled by 1176 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,720 Patrick. I know that guy. 1177 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:41,160 I swear to God. But yeah, that's sure you don't 1178 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,360 have curses. And that's our show. 1179 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,160 Adam, thank you so, so much. This was really, really fun. 1180 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,000 Did you have fun? I did. 1181 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,720 Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. 1182 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,320 Did you get scared? I know it's a Halloween episode. 1183 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,200 I think the wine helped. OK, good, good. 1184 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,800 Yeah, because I'm going to need you to come back. 1185 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,360 I need for the sequel. I need you to be the final girl 1186 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,560 of this franchise. So. 1187 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,720 I'm happy to come back any any time you call I'll answer. 1188 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,920 I love that 3:00 AM booty call done. 1189 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,200 All right, well, we have a new show coming up in about 3 weeks 1190 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,320 with yet another new ball boy. We got new balls coming at us 1191 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,000 left and right. We're going to be talking the 1192 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,400 real final girls 'cause we're going to have the last Masters 1193 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,600 of the season in Paris. We're going to have the year end 1194 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,800 champions for both the men and the women. 1195 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,120 In the meantime, stay in touch with us over on Instagram at at 1196 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,800 TBB Tennis. Until then, our balls are going 1197 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,040 back in the can. Thanks so much everybody. 1198 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,480 Thanks Adam. Have a great couple of weeks.