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boys. Hey everybody, and welcome to
the latest episode of The Ball Boys.
We are the tennis podcast that puts the slice and sliced and
diced and the drop shot in Drop dead.
I'm your host Paul Monkle and bringing the guts and gore of
the ATP and WTA tours for this special Halloween edition of The
Ball Boys. I'm so excited for this show.
Halloween is often called Gay Christmas and if I haven't
mentioned it, I actually grew up in Salem, MA.
Yes, the which city where it's Halloween every day of the year.
And on top of that, I'm a Scorpio and I celebrated my
birthday last night at Cenespia at the Hollywood Forever
Cemetery where we were serving Gordeuvres.
So yeah, it's in my blood. Hey listeners, are you dressing
up for Halloween? Do you need some inspiration?
If so, head on over to our Instagram page for some gay
tennis Halloween ideas. Maybe you can be Naomi Osaka's
La Booboo from the US Open or even more niche and show up as
Taylor Fritz's upside down Hugo Boss headband.
And it also feels a little fitting to have a spooky show
right now. Frankly, it's been an utter
nightmare on tour lately and the only thing scarier is the
constant barrage of news. Yes, we are still in a
government shutdown that is now the second longest ever.
I haven't felt a huge impact yet personally, but if this keeps
up, I might have to start selling old ball pics on only
cans. But back to the tennis.
Since the last show, the tour has continued pulling from every
horror movie trope. We've had twists and turns that
literally no one could have predicted.
We've had tournaments in ghost towns and places that just
scream get out. We've had players falling to the
ground in pain and players falling down the rankings.
And we've wound up with final girls who had the guts to win it
all. There's been some good news on
Tour 2, of course. Novak Djokovic has qualified for
yet another year in finals for a total of 18.
Our mercurial Russian Medi Kruger has finally won another
tournament. Granted, it's a small one in
Kazakhstan, but Christ, Almadi, it was time for Medvedev to get
that win. So on today's show, we'll be
talking about all of that and a segment about tennis curses and
cursed players. And we're calling that segment.
She already done had curses. And if you don't get that
reference, you need to start watching Drag Race again.
Or don't, I don't know, watch the old seasons.
Anyway to do all this? I'm so excited for today's ball
boy. When I said new balls, please a
few shows back, I meant it. So we've got another ball boy
virgin, which probably means he'll at least survive to the
end of the show. He's one of the managers of the
Out Loud Sports Tennis league here in LA.
He's a lifelong tennis fanatic. And he's a fellow Masshole.
He literally puts the Adam and Adam's family.
It's Adam La Roche. Hi, Adam, How are you?
How are you? I'm very happy to be here,
excited. This is popping my podcast
Cherry you. Know it's a.
Little something fun for the weekend before Halloween.
We know in in in all the scary movies, the virgin survives, so
you're safe for now. But by the end of this taping.
Fingers crossed I make it to the end.
Yeah, I met you at the viewing party at high tops that we had
for the men's final. And I'm always looking for a
fun, lippy homosexual with legs. And I saw you and I was like,
he's the next one because you just had a great sort of vibe.
And I'm really excited to spend this hour with you talking the
tennis, talking the trash. I want to get to know you a
little bit more. Are you a big Halloween guy?
Halloween was never a huge thing to me other than like another
night to go out drinking with your friends.
But then I moved to LA and especially West Hollywood.
Halloween is a thing. You know, the street shuts down,
there's a parade. That's when you know, I was
like, OK, this is this is a a big to do.
What's your best costume that you ever had?
I would say probably the most thought I've ever put into a
costume, or at least the most work I put into it.
In 2018, I did Serena's French Open cat suit, which I I I'll
send you a picture of it. It was a oh please.
Yeah, we're putting it. On Instagram.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was, I mean, the thing with
cat suits as a male, which I learned the hard way, is you
have to remember to have a zipper sewn in or else you're
you're you're in big trouble. You know, when it's when it's
time to, you know, I can't quite picture.
It tell. Tell us more.
Don't listen. Slowly.
Oh God, yeah, yeah. I remember Coco Goff's New
Balance kid at the beginning of of this year at Australia.
She had to, she felt the need to do a demo on social media of how
she was going to pee because it was like a one piece.
You kind of have to take the whole thing off and put the
whole thing on and it's. All, Yeah.
OK, so that was you that year. OK, amazing.
I want to, I want to definitely want to see that.
I'm a Scream super fan. So I got to ask, what's your
favorite scary movie? I think my favorite scary movie,
definitely the one I've seen the most, is the others.
I love the others. Yeah.
I like those psychological movies more, more than like
gore, because I also really liked like the Village, like
those kind of movies. I, you know, I'm down for.
Well, that's perfect for tennis because I think that tennis has
been pretty much psychological torture for the last month or so
with with players just tapping out, losing their minds,
cramping, getting sick. And we're going to talk about
all that. But before we do, we are going
to play new balls, please, which is just whenever there's a new
ball boy on the show, we want to get to know them.
We want to go deep. We want to probe them on just
how gay for tennis they are. It used to be called getting
ballsy, but we're we're rebranding it to new balls,
please. I think we're going to stay with
that. So I don't know, we'll see.
But Adam, Are you ready to play new balls, please?
I'm I'm ready. Hold, let me let me get a sip of
wine. Here.
Oh yeah, please. All right.
Are you gay? TP or WT gay?
I would say I'm WT gay with some gay TP tendencies.
Tell me more. I dip in and out of of ATP.
Well, first of all, I don't have the attention span for five step
matches. So when it comes time to the
Grand Slams, I'm I'm really checked out.
I'll watch highlights, you know, I follow along, but I'm not
watching a five step match. I, you know, I'm the type of
person where even a movie that I love or like ATV show that I
love, I need to hit that pause button and, you know, break it
up into increments so that I, I can't stick around that long for
an ATP match. So that's predominantly why I
follow WTA more. Interesting.
I know that makes sense. It's, it's funny.
When we were at that high Tops viewing party, I was texting our
mutual friend Nathan Frizzell and just saying, like, I was a
little worried because I don't know if I can stand around for 5
1/2 hours. I can sit and watch A5 setter.
But like standing like, yeah, you're right.
It's a it's a long ass time. OK, so you so you're you are WT
gay and what makes you a ball boy?
Like what's your tennis history? Growing up, I grew up in a
football family and I was never into football.
When I, when I got into high school, I felt the pressure to
play a sport and I was like, all right, let me try tennis.
And I really liked it. But I, you know, I wasn't that
great. And so, you know, I never really
got to play any real matches. I was kind of a bench warmer,
kind of checked out of tennis until I moved to LA and that's
when I was like, I need to make some friends.
So I joined Gay Tennis League, made a ton of friends, and then
that's when like subscribe to Tennis Channel.
I was watching every single match.
I think we shared our love for live rankings.
I was constantly checking the rankings and you know what, what
scenarios are going to put people in the top ten and that
kind of stuff. You know, I was going crazy for
it and I started playing so much with Out Loud Sports Tennis
League that eventually our friend Nate was like, do you
just want to start helping out and running the league?
And I was like, all right. And so I became a manager and 10
years later still doing it. So yeah, it wasn't really until
the 2015 that I I really, I really dove in and fell in love
with the sport. That was a great time to do it
because that was Serena's last great year.
So it was really fun following her career in that way too,
because I've missed so much of Serena by not following tennis
for for so long. So I'm happy that I got to see,
you know, at least the tail end of it.
Yeah, well, and there were, you know, those, those 3 or 4 scrubs
over on the men's tour of Murray, Djokovic, Nadal and
Federer. But I mean, who cares about
that? Yeah, you have to see.
You have to see Serena. No, I love that because I, I, I
often say, hey, the gay community is one thing.
The tennis community is another. But the gay tennis community is
one of the things that I love the most because there is just,
there's something shared between those two things.
And one of the things that I, I also like to ask people on this
show is just why do we think that gay people love tennis so
much? Because it really is seen
differently than most other sports, just in my experience.
For me, I think growing up gay, you're kind of forced to
navigate, you know, with family, with friends, with school, and
then, you know, once you get a job, it's how do I fit in being
gay? And you're forced to navigate
those challenges on your own. And tennis is a solo sport.
And so I think that's one reason why so many people identify with
tennis is because of the solo aspect of it, which I think I'm
for a lot of gay people, doing things on your own and figuring
out life on your own is that's just that's everyday life.
And and then that's life on the tennis court too.
Is, is navigating challenges. It's like a puzzle.
You know what, how do I put the pieces together to beat this
opponent? It's, it's, it's really mentally
challenging. And I think gay people really
have that skill set just because of what it's like to grow up
gay. So I'm not going to make a
blanket statement, but I'm going to make a blanket statement.
So are we thinking being gay makes you better at tennis?
Because it's already second nature to figure things out?
Go it alone. Well, first of all, being gay
makes you better at anything so. You know, facts.
I mean, I naturally no lies detected.
OK, yes. So for anyone listening who
wanted to get involved with Out Loud Sports.
So Out loud Sports is not just in LA, right?
It's it's all over. No, I think it's more than 25
cities now. There's like 75,000 registered
players in the country who play with some out loud sports.
It was the first queer plus recreational league in the
country. So it's not just LA and it's
obviously not just tennis. There's volleyball, dodgeball,
bowling. Some cities have cornhole
pickleball. I'm going to.
Cut that out, Jane. Yeah, feel free.
Feel free to to edit that out. Yeah.
So so I I. We have to get along with our
pickleball brethren. It's fine.
Listen, I, I, I have a, it's,
it's a sore subject for me, 'cause there I, some of my, my
closest tennis friends that I really enjoyed playing with all
the time I've lost to pickleball.
So, you know, fuck those guys. Well, you know what?
They're not on this show because this is not the Pickleball Boys.
They're not. They're not.
Suck it. All right, Amazing.
Let's do a quick speed round and then we'll get into what's been
going on with tennis. But speed round, Yannick?
Or Carlos, even though I know you're more WT gay.
This is not a speedy answer for me on on.
I'd rather watch Yannick play tennis.
I'm more interested in Carlos off the court.
That's a speedy. Answer.
I agree, yeah. Yeah, Yannick's not giving
anything off the court and Carlos is, but I I love
Yannick's tennis. Yeah, I've talked about this.
I mean, look, I'm a I'm a most squeaky wheel, but I still don't
understand why Yannick, for a moment was such a cultural
phenomenon with everyone wearing wigs and the Karata boys.
I'm like, he's giving us very little to grab onto to be so
culturally relevant all of a sudden.
But OK, favorite stroke? For for me to play, it's cross
court forehand, although I will say I played today and my drop
shots were on fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I, I, I mean, obviously drop shots are super exciting to see
in pro tennis too. So, so I love, I love that like,
I, I like Shay SUA all the way and like, love that love that
you've read Wanska. Like, I love those.
Like, you know, tennis ninjas. Oh wow, yeah, I like.
Yeah, I like crafty tennis. That's really cool to me.
Yeah. I know that she's not what
beloved in some circles, but like, that's kind of why I like
Laura Seigman's game. Oh, I love her.
She's cool to me. Yeah, I I would never, if I was
a pro, I would never want to play her.
And I understand. Yeah, I understand why people
find her to be so annoying. But it's like, hey if, if that's
what her skill set is, then use it.
And you know, I don't know why you're gagging.
She brings it every time. OK, who's your boy tennis crush?
I mean, I feel like it's so basic to say Tommy Paul.
Hey, it's it's, it's Tommy Paul. Obviously Gregor, Gregor's, he's
been up there for a while, you know, it's.
Oh yeah, and he's back. He's back for.
Paris Yeah. Thanks, Tommy.
Paul I I feel the same way because it's me and every 13
year old girl squealing over Tommy Paul, which feels a little
like, but like, I mean, he and I got married.
I took his last name. He took my first name.
We're the Paul Pauls. And that's how it's going down
people. I like that.
And who is your girl crush? Just because I find her so
interesting on and off court is Sabalenka.
I'm I'm obsessed with Sabalenka. Just to see her unabashedly
living her best life, getting drunk, partying it up.
Like, I love that. That's if I was heard.
That's a padosa. Yes.
I mean, that's what I want to be doing too.
So yeah, I'm, I'm obsessed with Sapling.
I love her. Here's here's my thong and we
are white line wasted somewhere on a beach.
It was. Amazing.
Doing terrible TikTok dances. The worst.
Although, OK, I mean, I, we, we were going to talk about it in a
second, but at Wuhan, OK, I don't think she's getting enough
crap about when she threw that racket.
And it's it's unclear if she hit the ball kid or not.
It was very, very, very close. If someone else had done it, I'm
like if Ego had done it, if Coco had done it.
How did she get away with it? I First of all, I don't know how
it hasn't happened already with Sabalenka because she is so
expressive and has so many outbursts on court.
I've always kind of felt like she's going to throw a racket
someday and, you know, it happened, which sucks, but I
mean, yeah, she almost hit the ball, kid.
It's crazy. Yeah, she's had a a number of
gaffes over the years, like what happened after the French Open
when she wasn't the most gracious to Coco.
But this was something that felt a little it.
It felt like it if it didn't cross the line, it definitely
towed it. And I was just like, I don't, I
don't like this Sabalenka, which I know who gives a crap what I
like, but it just felt like it was too far.
Throwing a racket is completely different.
You know, that's, that's wild. That's wild.
It's like spiking a football. You don't know exactly where
it's going to go. So you hit, you throw a rack to
the ground, it's going to bounce somewhere we don't know where.
So yeah. Yeah.
Amazing. Well, that was new balls,
please. And now we are going to move
over to our lobs beans. And just as a reminder, the lobs
be in is that thing that made us gayer for tennis since the last
show. There's quite a few.
We're going to post some of these to our Instagram and you
can check them out on our Instagram at TBB tennis.
That's at TBB as in the ball boys tennis.
But some highlights. I think this might have been my
lobby in last year, but I'm going to keep it there.
It's just the net rackets that the ball crew uses at the ersta
Open. So the ball kids they are
running around picking up the balls with it looks like a
butterfly net. The only thing that would make
it gay or is if they were skipping between like from line
to line to catch the balls. Like what?
What are they doing? I feel like it's completely
unnecessary. It doesn't gain you any
efficiencies if anything it makes it worse.
And I was looking it up I can't find a reason why it didn't
start during COVID. It started like 10 years ago.
My theory is that a tournament director at some point ordered
like lacrosse equipment and couldn't figure out a way to
return it. And so they're like, let how how
can we utilize these Nets and like, all right, give them to
the ball kids so they can use them.
I mean literally there is no other possible reason to use
them. Like why?
I think they just had them and they were like we must use
these. It's like the most archaic, the
rest of tennis is going towards AI and electronic line calling
and they're using just like a, a net to catch a like it just if
anything, give them a baseball glove.
But like a like, are you practicing your forehand by
catching it in a net? Like 'cause that's when I first,
when I was young, young, young, taking lessons, like we would
get a net and you would hit, you know, to, to catch the balls.
Also, just like, I mean, ersta is just like the the immature
mind that I sometimes have. I love that it was played in in
Wiener Stadium. And whenever anyone hit an ace,
ace in German is ASS. So on big letters it'd be like
ASAS. AS Wiener.
Yeah, that tickled my gay heart, made me a little.
Gay that's that's gay TP right there.
Gay TP There you go. What about you?
Did you have a lobspin? So I think my loves being of the
week was probably Morgan Riddle. I think it was cool that she was
so vocal on No Kings Day. She was out there protesting the
T-shirt that said immigrants make this country great.
Oh, I was really happy to see that.
Love, love, love. Yeah.
But I'm bummed though to hear her talk about her tennis
content though when why she stopped posting it.
Tell me more. She said she stopped posting
tennis content and all the behind the scenes stuff because
she kept getting docked for copyright infringement.
They weren't letting her post her content.
Wait, who? Like the tennis, The like the.
Like the WTA, the the tournaments?
Yeah, they're they're so yeah. If are you on tennis Twitter?
I don't know what I'm on Twitter that has tennis.
Is that the same as tennis Twitter?
Yeah. So, yeah, so like the, the, the
tennis Twitter environment, like all, you know, the people who
contribute, but that's like one of the biggest complaints is
that they are so quick to take down people's footage for a
copyright violation. They want only their video to be
used, only their content to be used or licensed.
So, yeah, Morgan Riddle was like that.
Sorry. That's why I stopped posting.
It's ridiculous. But yeah, I kept getting flagged
for a copyright violation. Wow.
OK, yeah, no, but I do. I do love to see her at the No
Kings Rally because like tennis is one of the least political
sports as far as people using their voice so.
I mean, well, it should be, but it's not.
I mean, the the irony was not lost on me that the final of the
6th King slam was on the day of the No Kings March.
Like it's like, OK, like there's just a an indifference towards
some things. I want to throw in one more lobs
be in. I feel like it's my duty as a
gay man to talk about Andrea Pellegrini's underwear campaign.
He finally gets one after years of posting some pretty thirsty
Instagram shots. And he is just the most stunning
guy. He plays most on the Challenger
tour. He's made the Bay TP on my show.
Like I'm guilty I I'm powerless over some Italian gods
sometimes. But I got to say I was a little
underwhelmed by the campaign. As far as underwear campaigns
go, it's giving like, you know how like if you go to an outlet
mall, there's like the Haines store.
Yeah. That's, that's what it's it's
giving. And like the the awkward photo
of him and Fanini and their underwear in locker room.
Just like staring directly into each other's eyes and and.
It felt very it felt very photoshopped AI, very
artificial, didn't feel natural at all.
And maybe this is just the world we live in, but they kind of can
dolled him a little bit where it's just like, we're not going
to give any any essence of what's down there.
Versus if anybody needs to know what a real campaign looks like,
go check out Carlos Moya's campaign for to Exist.
It was around the turn of the century, you know, almost in the
1900s. And that they were just like,
yeah, this is what he looks like in these underwear.
And that's that's a real campaign real quick.
I think there was something about Lily Allen as a Lobs fan.
Are you following this crazy Lily Allen story?
This She just came out with her new album, which is a scathing
like breakup divorce album with David Harbour from Stranger
Things and she is not holding back.
I mean, she's talking about butt plugs and like the most specific
details ever. This album is intense.
It's an intense listen. But there's a song called Tennis
on it. And she, she talks about how,
you know, she first started to raise suspicions about him, like
violating the terms of whatever arrangement they had in their,
their open marriage where, you know, she, for whatever reason,
she had his phone and he took it away too quickly.
So she was suspicious and she went through his text and she
found out he was playing tennis with some girl named Madeline.
So the song is called tennis. And she's like, when, when the
fuck did you start playing tennis?
AB Why aren't you playing with me?
And see who the fuck is Madeline?
Wow. Yeah, so I was like, wow, tennis
even worked his way into this, this crazy Lily Allen, David
Harbour drama. I love, I love that I know I, I
think playing tennis is going to become my, my new code for like
when I don't want to tell someone I'm playing tennis
tennis. Tennis has gotten me out of a
few social engagements I did not want to be a part of, so it's oh
sorry, I had a tennis match that day.
Now it's time for Twitch, which is this week in tennis, covering
the news, the dudes, the feuds of the tour.
And just as a reminder, we can't possibly cover every match.
So if you're coming to us for the scores, you're going to be
more disappointed than I was that no player said anything
about playing in Saudi Arabia. And because it's Halloween and
we're doing a Halloween show, we're going to do twit based on
different horror movies. So the stories, the tournaments,
we're going to be comparing them to different horror movies and
genres. I want to start out with what
I'm calling the Long Walk. So the Long Walk was that movie
that just came out based on a really great Stephen King story
about teens who must just walk and walk and walk and walk.
And if they stop, they are quote UN quote eliminated.
And this season, this tennis season of 2025 can only be
described as the Long Walk. Since the last show, we've had
more and more people joining the 2025 Tap Out Club, which was a
term I think coined by Dasha Kazakhina.
And they've decided to just eliminate the rest of their
season. So Kazakhina called it quits.
Emerado Kanu tapped out. Svidolina has tapped out on the
men's side. Tiafo has tapped out.
He's he's tapped out and he's gotten rid of his whole team.
He's coming back in 26, a whole new man 60 passes done.
Draper's out feasts was about to come back for Paris.
Decided no, not ready and we've got some other people like poor
Holger Rune just with a horrible injury and has to get his
Achilles tendon basically reattached and he's going to be
out for a pretty much probably the entire 2026 season again,
it's I'm a broken record and a squeaky wheel and a, you know
whatever bossy bottom. I'm not a bossy bottom, it's
where is the adult in the room who is going to step up and say
stop the insanity? But does someone need to get
even worse injured? Is someone going to die on
court? Heaven forbid?
I mean, what the hell. Like these players, they're just
like, I can't take it anymore. I've never understood why the
tennis season needs to be 11 months long.
No, no, it's, it's, it's too much for the players.
It's too much for spectators, for the fans.
Oh my God. Well, and then I was watching
part of Ningbo the last week and there were again, 12 people in
the stands. Nobody is going to these
tournaments to watch. We're just going to burn players
out. We're going to lose some
generational talents. But I just don't understand why
the tours can't see that and do something.
Yeah, I mean, it's just all about money.
Like they that's that's what they care about is making money.
But yeah, I mean, physically, mentally it's it's so taxing on
the players. And like I said, for the fans,
it's tough. I mean, I'm, I'm like Serena
Williams after the US Open, I check out.
So I, I will follow religiously tennis from the Australian Open
to the US Open. And then after that, like the
rest of September, October, November, like I follow along.
But it's, I'm, I'm not invested like I am the rest of the year.
It it's just, it's too much. Yeah, the focus for the rest of
the year is no longer about the prestige of winning any specific
event. It's about trying to qualify for
the finals, which we saw with Rabachana.
As soon as she qualified for the finals, she tapped out of Tokyo.
She's like, OK, oh, sorry, I'm injured.
I don't believe she was injured for a second.
She's like, no, I made it, I'm done.
But it or it's about getting some points to get your ranking
up for the next year. I mean, it's it's it's much more
strategy LED than actually wanting to play to win.
And I hate watching tennis that is not about winning.
That's why I didn't love the six King Slam.
I mean, yeah, they made a butt load of money if you won the
whole thing, but if you didn't win the whole thing, you made
the same amount. It didn't matter.
They didn't care. Zverb didn't care.
Sitzipas didn't care. They made $1.5 million in under
2 hours and they were out. Carlos cannot care when it when
there's no points online. Yonic Center destroyed him in
the Six King Slam and it was just like, I don't like that
tennis. Yeah, I mean, I think there are
probably players who see it as an opportunity of like, oh, the
the top, the top players are are either not showing up or they're
dropping out. And it's an opportunity maybe
for someone like Vasher into when Masters 1000, you know, so,
so other players do get the opportunity to, you know, kind
of pounce and and seize that moment.
I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth because I loved the
Vashero story. I'm so happy that that happened.
Like that's amazing. And when the twist was revealed
that they were cousins, I mean that that is horror movie trope
one O 1 like Oh my God they're cousins.
And then they still made it to the final.
What amazing that was. That was probably like the
coolest story of the year. Yeah, absolutely amazing.
Well, in response to all these players tapping out and everyone
being tired, we're going to go on to our next horror movie of
Twitch, which is Get Out. The tours have magnanimously
decided to add another Masters 1000.
And this time it is in Saudi Arabia.
And I'm calling this get out because if I was over in Saudi
Arabia, that's what I'd be trying to do.
Because that is not a place for me.
That is a place where human rights are constantly at risk,
if not violated. It's tough for women.
It's tough for gays. It's tough for for sort of
Western society. And look, I know we are not
perfect. I am not in a perfect society
over here in America, but honestly, what the actual fuck
that now these players are going to be playing in a Masters when
there is no room in the season, so they're going to have to take
away something somewhere. But also that it's set there.
It's just reeking of sport washing.
And what really pisses me off is no one is addressing the human
rights issues. No one is saying a thing about
it. If anything, the ATP is
celebrating it like it's this great milestone.
And if anyone doesn't know, sport washing is basically using
sports to improve the PR of a nation.
It's often talked about with Saudi Arabia explicitly when
they tried to do the Liv Tour, which is the competitor to the
PGA. They've been trying to get
Formula One there forever. A lot of major sports
organizations don't go there because of this, because they're
human rights issues. But also I was talking to my
friend Ivy about this and yes it sucks that the ATP is going
there but what's the actually even worse is that the WTA
finals are already there which I think that sending the women
there, it's not a good look. It's just oil money.
I don't like it. They they know where their bread
is buttered. They're not going to bite the
hand that feeds them. They're not going to say, oh,
you know, I kind of did experience some weird vibes, you
know, while we were playing here.
Of course they're going to say, I felt, I felt great.
I felt fine. I felt respected.
Well, first of all, of course you were being respected.
It's, you know, the tournament who wants to, you know, save
face. So they're going to do
everything they can to make you happy.
That's no representation at all of what real life is for a woman
in Saudi Arabia. It's just such a bad look for
tennis. But tennis is so desperate to
enhance itself, especially in the US, popularity wise,
financially, you know, so they're like they're seizing on
that opportunity. I agree that that they are
trying to to grow the sport, but also tennis is on such an
upswing the Morgan riddles and with the the sort of Instagram
lifestyle at. I mean, I'll be honest, I don't
actually love going to many tournaments live right now
because of the crowds of people who don't know how to watch
tennis match because they'll talk the entire goddamn time.
There's no need for this. Tennis isn't suffering.
And but OK, if if they were going to take the funds created
at this new Saudi Arabia blood money Masters 1000, whatever the
title's going to be, we'll call it blood money.
I think, I think it's going to be the blood money open.
That's the. Bo the BMO the So OK, if they
were going to take that money and OK, we're going to we're
going to dedicate a certain amount to anyone who's ranked
under 150 because they're the ones struggling on tour.
OK, we're going to do something about human rights.
OK, this is not the equivalent, but the 6th King Slam.
I got the major X when Yannick Sinner won $6 million for
winning three non, not really exciting matches.
There's just something a little vulgar about that.
And I'm vulgar. You should see me at the Eagle.
I'm disgusted. But that that was just like, I
don't know it just I get the X all around.
It's, it's so egregious. I mean, and it's like they, it
would be one thing if they they were doing this and being like,
hey, we recognize there are some issues in this country.
This is how we're trying to improve.
We would love for you to come over here and, you know,
experience the change. But it's like what, what is the
change that you're making? You're not doing anything there.
You're you're just paying big names to come and play a big
sport and, you know, be flashy about it.
It's, it's all, it's all sport watching.
It's it's just a cover up. Yeah, yeah.
The last thing I'm going to say about 6 Kings is they better
work on that security because there was that moment when that
kid ran on the court and wanted Yanuk Sinner's jacket and was
just like touching him, poking at him, being like me, me, give
me that, give me that. And Yanuk was like, I need my
jacket. Have they not heard of Monica
Selas? You can't just allow anyone to
run on court, even if they're like the son of a Sheik or
whatever. I thought maybe it was the
graphic designer who did those promo posters using.
AII thought he was. I thought he was coming out to
apologize to everyone, but you know that that wasn't the case.
Those those Harry Potter looking.
Yeah. Posters were something else for
sure. When they had to put Taylor
Fritz on the poster and someone just googled white man and the
first the 1st result they're like oh this must be Taylor.
Fritz was that who was. Fritz.
That was not Taylor Fritz, that was that was Blaylor Blitz.
That was like an AI. What do they call AI?
No slop. That was just.
Some, yeah. Question for you though, I do
love the idea of of switching up the Masters a little bit.
Where should a Masters 1000 show up next if it was going to go
somewhere? I say let's go to Hawaii, let's
have a fun Hawaiian tournament. I would like to go to Hawaii and
watch some tennis, make a little vacation out of it.
That is a great idea. The lava.
The lava Open. The lava open.
Sponsored by King's Hawaiian Rolls.
And Hawaiian Tropic suntan lotion.
Yeah, for sure. I'd love that.
I've never been. Have you been to Hawaii?
I've never been. Yeah, Maui.
Maui is my jam. We went, we went the summer
before the fires there. So I'm, I'm glad I got to
experience that area where, you know, it was it was so cool.
It was so cool. Like Lahaina, like, yeah, I
can't believe what happened there.
But yeah, let's let's, let's bring tennis to Hawaii.
Oh, I love that. I thought you were going to be
like, it should be a grass tournament or it should be in
South America, like everyone's saying.
There's no grass 1000 tournament.
Let's let's do that too. Yeah, or grass.
On Hawaii they got great grass. Perfect.
A Hawaii. Grass tournament.
Oh, instead of the Yeah, hey. Let's make it happen.
Yeah. Oh, my God.
A cause also. Yeah.
Like, why is grass only? I mean, there's Newport, but I
mean, there's grass is only over in Europe.
But we got grass. I love our grass.
American Grass. Is, I mean, is it, is it because
it's so it creates such a risk for injury that the grass season
is so short? I don't.
I think it's more that they are catering to people's backgrounds
and most people don't grow up on grass.
I mean, grass used to be grass, used to be the US open, it used
to be the Australian Open, it used to be everywhere.
People just stopped playing on it.
My contention is it's hard to transition onto grass and to
transition onto clay from hard 'cause it is just so slippery,
so different, and it's also just expensive.
There's a drought. There's it's.
Hard. It's hard to upkeep.
I mean, Wimbledon by Week 2 is kind of fugly.
Nasty, Yeah. Doesn't photograph well.
No, she she's, she's getting a little busted at Why don't they
have green spray paint just to cover the like just make it
green, even if it's not grass. Give us an illusion.
Have you not seen a drag queen? We can do it.
Beat that mug. Beat the mug of center.
Quote Wimbledon Hello and then have a grass reveal.
Yes, yes, get Gotnik out there to spruce up the core by by that
second week. Yes, get them all out there.
Have like an entire like ball crew of drag Queens.
See, between this and the Hawaiian Open, we should we
should be working. This is innovation.
This is where we go. I mean, come on, I want, I want
Willow Pill to be throwing me the ball.
I want her to be catching it in a net, falling over.
It'll be great. The next horror movie trope is
just The Purge. So the Purge is a movie based
around one day of the year. Anything is allowed.
And apparently that one day of the year is going to be the week
before the Australian Open going forward.
Because the tours again their their their innovation idea is
different than ours. They are introducing the
$1,000,000 one point slam where an amateur, if you win a point
you will win $1 million. It's more you have to win
basically like 3 to 4 different one point matches.
But it's going to be a mix of amateurs and professional
players including Carlos Alcaraz.
Like Carlos sit this one out like girl.
Also, if Carlos wins the $1,000,000 ick, you don't need
the money and just let. Does he get he gets the money if
he wins? I'm not 1000% sure if the pros
if the pro wins if they get the $1,000,000.
They should be forcing the pros to be playing for a charity.
Like don't give them the money. That's come on.
It's take a charity. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The ball, boys, we need it. I mean, come on.
But also, it's just blurring the line.
It feels a little bit like when Bill Ackman was playing this
summer with Jack Sock in that professional Double S
tournament. And you know, for one day you
can play. It's like, do you buy your way
in? And I, it's just, I don't know.
But then I was thinking like, OK, can you pick who you play
against 'cause if double faults count, then I want to play
against Coco Goff. Smart, smart.
Play your cards right. One of those cards, right?
Who do you think you could take a point off of?
So I'm, I'm, I'm pretty confident I could return Sarah
Arani's serf. Maybe it's the maybe it's
delusion, but I, I think no, that is a beautiful call.
I have to put my money there. That's, that's, that's what I'm
going with Sarah Arani. I actually think that if you
can't return her serve, there's got to be.
More out punishment. You should have to pay
$1,000,000, yeah. Yeah, it's not just that you
didn't win $1,000,000, but like the shame woman from Game of
Thrones. Will come out.
Name. I like how we both based our
answers on serve. Yeah, exactly.
Against women. I mean, look at us.
Look at us gentlemen over here. So the biggest tournament on the
on the men's side since the last show, what's the Shanghai Open?
It ended like a week and a half ago.
So in the tennis world, that's already old news.
There was so much that went on at Shanghai.
I'm calling it the Labour Cup, like the Labour Cup, but just
everyone was laboring all over that goddamn court.
It was so hot in Shanghai. How hot was it?
No, I don't have a joke lined up for that, like Jay Leno, but it
was so fucking hot. Everyone is passing out.
It was like The Walking Dead. Players literally couldn't
breathe. During one of his matches, Novak
had to clean up his own vomit twice, Twice.
I mean, which also like, hey, that man has made almost $200
million, and he's going to he's going to wipe up his own slop.
There was this one really horrible moment where I think it
was Martin Fuksevich who was just passed out and no one was
really helping him. They're waiting for the medical
team to get out. And you could just see, like a
cameraman standing over him, like filming it.
And it's like, dude, put the camera down.
Maybe help or get Water Chair Empire do something.
It was just kind of like horrifying.
But then we got that twist that no one saw coming.
The cousins, you know, they come out of nowhere.
You could not write that. I was like, what in the West
Craven is going on that they both make they both become the
final girl. They they Vanquish all
opponents, they defy all the odds.
No one would have thought that this would have been have A
twist. It's like, it's like the others
your favorite horror movie. Like, Oh my God, the others won
like they were ghosts all along. Like how did they get to that
final? It was amazing.
Yeah. And I like that.
It's actually like a family rivalry that is playing out
because we don't really get to see that.
I mean, the Andreva sisters are are they don't have that.
The Pushkuba sisters never had that.
So it's cool that it's it could actually be happening.
It has happened. And, you know, hopefully that
they can continue to to play that level in the future so that
that family drama, you know, keeps happening.
It was such an amazing sort of run of fate though, that they
weren't going to meet earlier. Rinder Tech had to beat Djokovic
in the semi and Medvedev was playing against Vesheroi and his
semi. Like there was no one was
predicting that they were going to make it to that final.
And it was quality. It was a quality match.
I thought they were both going to maybe choke because it was
such a big stage. I.
Think they brought they brought the best out of each other.
Yeah, yeah. And, and just I've been, I've
been really loving this trend of really emotional trophy
ceremonies the second-half of this year, guys openly crying.
I love when a man shows emotion. And there's been a lot of tears.
Even just today when Joao Fonseca beat divided Shukina.
His parents had flown in. He was crying.
Just talk. He's like, I can't look at you,
but I will say this. Like, I'm so happy to be your
son. Like, it was just tears.
Tears. Yeah.
I mean. Nothing is worse than sitting
through like a Yannick Sinner acceptance speech.
So, you know, I it's, it's, and we see so many of them because
he wins so much. So it's, it's good.
It's good to actually see emotion.
You know, The funny thing about Sinner is that he's he seems
much more emotive in other languages.
It's really. English.
Where he's the least and and it's funny because over the
summer when he put out that weird musical single with Andrea
Bocelli, his lines were in English and they sounded so
flat. I was like, why aren't you just
speaking in Italian or any of the other languages?
So Shanghai, though, question for you 'cause there were so
many different horror movie tropes and twists and whatever,
I couldn't figure out which horror movie was it.
I was thinking like, is it Happy Death Day?
Have you seen Happy Death Day? I haven't known, but it's you're
not the first person to recommend it.
It's so good, it's so queer. It's this girl.
She gets killed every day over and over again, and then she
wakes up again the same day only to get killed again.
It was kind of like Groundhog Day, but with murder.
I loved it. Or is it like Final Destination,
where you survive this one round, but then fate and death
will get you the next round? Is it Krampus?
I mean, it's not about Christmas, but everyone's just
cramping, Is it the others? Could the the others won?
I mean, if you were to sum up, what was the horror movie?
I, I think it's final destination and I'm, I think I
say that because when it is that hot and that humid, I question
any player who wears white shorts.
What are you thinking wearing white shorts in that
environment? First of all, I don't get white
shorts in general because you're really putting yourself in the
position for a public sharding incident and on a national
stage. Everybody is watching.
I is. That what you.
Worry about I I always think about what would happen if one
of these players sharded and they're wearing white shorts.
I don't get it. You know you're going to be
completely see through by the end of the mass.
I'm not complaining. But I'm not waiting for like the
the the con yes, it's like it's on me it.
Sounds great. The sharding is the only
negative possible scenario in this.
In this, Yeah, but but other than that, like, I guess they
really just don't care that they're showing everyone
everything. Good for them, good for her.
Atta girl OK and so because of the the white sharding, its
final destination. OK, yes, yes, they they survived
another round of wearing white white shorts without incident.
Yeah, well, and and and also cause only one survived.
Everyone else is dead by the end of the tournament.
So yeah, its final destination baby.
The real quick a few other movies.
I know we're going a little long, but hey, that's what she
said. The so we also just had the
Human Centipede, which I'm just calling the mash up, the
stitching up of 25 hundreds of Vienna and Basel.
They both just ended today. I love 500 level tournaments.
I'm I'm putting together my calendar for next year and I'm
going to try and travel to at least two or three 500 level
tournaments because the draws are amazing.
So we had the 2 finals today in Human Centipede terms.
We had Joao Fonziner took down Alejandro Dosvarovic, Volcina in
both matches and mashed them up. So we had Joel Fonseca taking on
Alejandro de Vitochina in Basel and he won.
And then in Vienna, Sinner took down Zverev in Basel.
We had a bit of a Swiss miss in the quarters.
Three out of the four quarters were retirements.
And this is where, as a fan, if I did fly all the way over to
Switzerland to go to this tournament, I'm going to get 4
popcorn matches and I get a drizzle.
I would be so pissed. It's like, come on, there's I
feel like there are a lot more walkovers and retirements than
ever before and, and, and that, that's got to stop.
But poor ADF, Alejandro de Vidich Fukina.
This is his fourth final of the year, his 5th overall.
He's the highest ranked player by far without a title in his
career. I feel like he's a little
cursed. What can he do to reverse his
curse in 2026? I don't know, stop wearing that
stupid arm sleeve. I hate that arm sleeve.
He's another one who like maybe a little bit of Nick curious
vibes where, I don't know. I just feel like, is he ever
really going to get there or is he going to waver in the middle
forever? I feel like that's probably
what's going to happen to him. Yeah, I agree.
I I had the same thought fashion wise because he he also has a
superstition of wearing one black and 1 white sock.
He's been doing that for a decade.
And OK, that's dumb. He needs to stop doing that and
I hope he loses every match until he changes that.
Well, I was going to say, I don't think that that's working
if that's. Just.
Superstition bro maybe. Pick a new one.
Next final like because it's not helping right now yeah it's I
just feel so bad for him because he's got a lot of talent he's
got a lot of power but he just comes up short and today I got
to say Fonseca really impressed me I was sort of in the he's a
little over hyped camp for most of this year but today his serve
he was hitting serves over 140 miles an hour at his cross court
forehand you as a cross court forehand.
I would love to see you and he match cross core 4 hands it'd
be. Yeah, I don't, he's not ready
for this. He's not ready for this.
Yeah, Yeah, but no, he's yeah, just a little bit longer.
But I, I think the, the crowds that he brings to his matches,
it would be very cool to experience in person.
So I I would like to see hit one of his matches sometime.
Yeah, the Brazilian audience like like no other.
We haven't had a ton of top, top Brazilians.
Last one I can really remember is Quertin, and that was 20
years ago. Google, but I'm not sure who
else has been top. Top from Brazil.
And yeah, they make every match of his a home match.
It's wild. Yeah.
Yeah, I want to experience this. Yeah, I mean, at the same time I
get so annoyed when idiots behind me are talking about
Uncle Charlie's hernia operation, but they seem to be
doing it right, where they'll chant and cheer at the right
times. Yeah, yeah, like I'm not going
to sit there and have the Corona boys behind me.
I'd be way too annoyed with that.
But give me some like loud, fun Brazilians who are making the
match better. That's what I want.
I don't want, I don't want loud, annoying people.
I want loud and motivating people.
Yes, 100% over to the ladies. What's been going on in the WTA?
We had Wuhan where Coco Goff just went to town on the entire
field. She blitzed everyone.
She won all of her matches in straight sets, her serve, her
forehand. So I'm calling this one the
Invasion of the Body Snatchers, 'cause she switched places with
somebody. I don't know who, I don't know
how she did it, but since the US Open to this, that's basically 3
tournaments, she just hit everyone off the court and she
looks great again. I mean, amazing.
She's won her first nine hard court finals now, the first time
anyone's done it since Serena. So look at that.
I I've always said it must be really tough if Coco is your
fave because she will have a string of really poor
performances and poor tournaments and then she'll have
one like this where she completely dominates and you're
so excited all over again. It's such a roller coaster to be
a Coco fan. Absolutely.
And we've said on the show also, she's kind of like the queen of
winning ugly. And I don't love ugly tennis.
I think it's great to have that. Like mentally she is so strong,
but it's not that much fun to watch two players hit with over
50 unforced errors. And that's not the she did.
That was not what happened this time.
She did not win ugly. She won drop dead gorgeous and
that was that was that doesn't. Happen doesn't happen that often
for her so. Yeah.
Yeah, that was hopefully she can seep that momentum.
Yeah, we'll ride. It into Saudi Arabia, yeah, we
also had the Japan Open that also just ended late last night
where the bench Belinda bench beat Linda Nuskova and I'm
calling this one the Invisible Man because none of Linda
Nuskova's opponents showed up so she had to win a grand total of
1 match to make it to the final because everyone either retired
or withdrew and she doesn't win. I know that was going to say and
she and she didn't always. Yeah, I guess she was from not
playing. I like her.
First of all, I like that her name is Linda.
It's very unassuming name like Linda.
Like that's all right. We'll, we'll roll with that
Linda. But I, I mean, I think she is
kind of doing what people think Mira Andreva is doing, but like
actual executing just more on like a slow burn.
Nosova had that amazing Australian Open 2024 where she
beat Shiontech. I think she'll be a force to be
reckoned with. I just think she's having a lot
more of a slow burn to get there.
Yeah, I, I, I agree Linda's a good name.
I think Belinda is a good name too.
I love a Belinda, Belinda Mitch, but I do I love a Czech Gurley.
And I got to say I was intrigued and excited, titillated,
bemused, bewildered at the first round matchup between von
Druseva and Mukova, 'cause I love, I love these Czech
girlies. And then, of course, one of them
retired. I don't even know which one at
this point. I don't even care.
It's always going to be one of them.
They don't know which one retired.
They don't know which one. There is a curse on these Czech
women, like somebody needs to check for a witch's spell
because one of them is always injured, if not all of them.
It's like the Macbeth witches, those two and Krajikova.
They've got brittle bone disease, They've got avian bird
bones. Whatever it is, they are just,
they are. They are so delicate, which is
so frustrating because they're so fucking good.
They are so good. Them at their peak, they can
beat anybody. It just it.
It breaks my poor gay heart watching them.
Yeah, the the Czech women need to have like a they need to
regroup. They need to have a team
meeting, figure their shit out, figure out what vitamins they
need to start taking to be healthier.
Yeah. Is it something in the water?
What is it? Because it's just or did they
like? Yeah, it's training something.
Kavitiva was their their fearless leader, and now that
she's bowing out there, they don't know what to do.
Yeah. Oh, and cute news.
Kavitiva announced she's having her second child, so that's
exciting. Congratulations, Petra.
I know you're listening. So come on the show.
Bring the kids. Well, that was our our horror
movie themed roundup of Twit and just a few more things.
So we've got a new BAE TP Look, we're always going to be rating
and ranking the men because that's what we do.
You know, you talked about the live ratings earlier.
Like I love any ranking. And so the BAE TP it's based on
performance on and off the court.
If you win a tournament, if you're in vogue, if you beat
Sverrev, you get BAE TP points. So go over to our Instagram, see
the full list. It's at TBB tennis.
That's at TBB as in the ball boys tennis and you will see.
And no surprise, the cousins calling them cousin hit after
cousin hit. They are at the top of the
leaderboards of the Bay. TP Vashiro and Rindra connect,
but see who else is there and let us know if we missed
anybody. We are going to end the show
with a segment called She Already Done Had Curses, which
is based on Ru Paul's saying Sheridan had herses because
sometimes the only thing harder to break than Sasha Booblick
serve is a curse. And we have seen some real
haunted happenings on the tour. And so we're going to talk about
some of those curses in this segment.
First up, we've got the Scream franchise, both the original and
the reboot. And this was surprising because
I played a game of name that grunt maybe a year ago where I
asked people, hey, who is this player based on this grunt?
And people got the Rublevs, they got the Sabalenkas, They did not
get the Monica Sela's because they don't know the herstory.
There's a gap. There's a gaping hole that I am
going to fill. And and so starting with the
curse of Monica Sela, she was stabbed April 30th, 1993 while
playing a match in Hamburg, Germany.
An obsessed fan of her rival Steffi Graf during a changeover.
Got to the the side of the court and at that time the seats were
close enough that you could just reach over and touch them.
Stabs her in the back and she is out for two years.
It wasn't the worst injury ever, but psychologically it was.
I mean, she was 19 at the time. She never fully recovered from
that trauma. She did win one more Grand Slam,
which was great. I fucking loved her so much.
I still love her to this day. So that was the original Scream
Scream reboot. Patrick Kavitova, who we were
just talking about, victim of a home intrusion in 2016 where a
knife wielding intruder attacked her, end up stabbing her in the
hand she got. She's a lefty.
She was stabbed in the hand. And she did return maybe 5 or 6
months later, had some good performances.
But the Scream franchise is alive and kicking.
I hope there are no more sequels.
I hope this is the the end of it.
I do love Scream movies. I do not love Scream in tennis,
but that's a curse. The next one is the Netflix
curse. People like Bedosa, Ayla, Tom
Yanovich, Nick Curios, all featured on that show, and
particularly after the first season, their performances
sucked. At the 2023 Australian Open, all
10 of the players featured in the first episodes were
eliminated early in the tournament.
And everyone's like, that's the Netflix curse, the break Point
curse. Did you watch that show Break
Point? I I kind of knew what it was
going to be and I was, I was not interested.
I think it's really hard to do a tennis show because I definitely
don't want to watch ATV show that is new about what happened
last year because production and interviews and editing and all
that, like it wasn't real time. I I guess I'll relive the 2022
U.S. Open third round.
Yeah, yeah, I've, I've had that same problem with the 400
different documentaries that Serena Williams has put out
where, Yeah, first of all, sometimes it's I'm like, did you
not remember this correctly? Because this is not in the order
that it happened. Yeah, there, there.
There's not. A lot of fact checking going on
in some of these documentaries, but yeah, I, I, it's hard to
like, go back and see documentary about last year's
headlines. The next curse is the one slam
wonders. So the Juan Martin del Potro's
Devon Drusova, who we just talked about Bianca Andrescu,
Dominic team, who by the way, he's on our BTP this week
because he looked great in the stands and at at Basel.
But they all win one slam and then plagued by injuries for the
rest of their career and sometimes reaching the pinnacle
of the sport is all that it takes to unleash a curse.
And so they've all got the curse of the One Slam wonder.
It's. Rough.
And it's it's funny because Bianca not only just got that
one slam, she had a great year that year.
That whole year was amazing for her.
She's one where I think I've struggled the most to understand
like how why can't you get that form back?
She won so young that I she even said after winning she wasn't as
motivated. Like she kind of, she needed a
moment, she needed like a an Ash party reset, which she got, but
then her body just didn't cooperate.
Yeah, yeah, and I think she's a two hit wonder, but I don't see
Krichika winning another slam. Yeah, I mean, she she will sneak
in if if the door opens, but I don't think she's going to push
the door open herself. Yeah, I would.
Agree. I would agree, yeah.
I would rather see Marqueta win another one, yeah.
Yeah. Just based on what she did to
Rebeccahna at the US Open just now in in the quarterfinals that
match, she was so good. I was like, there's my girl.
There is that. Yeah.
Yeah, and the final curse of Sheridan had curses.
I'm just calling the Gremlins, which is just anyone and
everyone who is in that next Gen. who tried to breakthrough
but ultimately could not because they were going up against
Roger, Rafa and Novak, Anne Marie and Vavrinka.
I'm going to throw Vavrinka in there just because he's the man.
But that's all of them. That's this Vera's, that's the
city passes the Nishikori's, but just a cursed generation of, of
Grand Slam champions who will never be Grand Slam champions.
The Baratinis, they all could have won one or two, but they
just they were cursed to be born when they were born 'cause I
think that the peak peaks at Tsipas could have won a a Grand
Slam in in a different generation.
So that's a. Curse.
Yeah. And I wonder if if years from
now there's going to be a new set of gremlins, which are the
men's players today who are never able to breakthrough Ionic
and Carlos. Oh, that door is being slammed
shut. It's tough because it's just the
top 2. So those two are going to be on
either side of the draw at all times.
When it's three sometimes like, you know, the two of them off to
eat each other. So yeah, it with.
Just the two it's, it's going to get boring, I think.
And I think people are going to get, I think people are going to
get sick of it real fast. I'm a broken record, but every
day, every show, I'm like look, look to the gay community.
Open up your relationship. When it's 2, it gets stale.
They need a third. We got to find a third in 2026.
So everybody get on Grinder, find that third for them.
I I would I have one more curse. I I thought of a few minutes ago
and I'm I think it's going to be final destination vibes, just
like like the really bad misfortune of it all in like
wrong place, wrong time. And that is Naomi Osaka's draws
in these tournaments since coming back from maternity
leave, I think she had a a really tough string of, of
really bad draws and and then of course, being completely stifled
by working with Patrick Murata group.
Thankfully the curse is broken I think.
But yeah. Was really unlucky for like a
year and a half. I I totally agree her her return
was a lot longer than needed to be.
I'm so glad you met. But yeah.
Yeah, I, I don't know how, if any, if any part of it was like,
oh, I was amazing, I'm still going to be amazing.
And then that kind of never sunk in after like a year.
If that was just like a bitter pill for her to swallow.
I I think a big part of it was just her completely stifled by
Patrick. I know that guy.
I swear to God. But yeah, that's sure you don't
have curses. And that's our show.
Adam, thank you so, so much. This was really, really fun.
Did you have fun? I did.
Thank you. Thank you so much for having me.
Did you get scared? I know it's a Halloween episode.
I think the wine helped. OK, good, good.
Yeah, because I'm going to need you to come back.
I need for the sequel. I need you to be the final girl
of this franchise. So.
I'm happy to come back any any time you call I'll answer.
I love that 3:00 AM booty call done.
All right, well, we have a new show coming up in about 3 weeks
with yet another new ball boy. We got new balls coming at us
left and right. We're going to be talking the
real final girls 'cause we're going to have the last Masters
of the season in Paris. We're going to have the year end
champions for both the men and the women.
In the meantime, stay in touch with us over on Instagram at at
TBB Tennis. Until then, our balls are going
back in the can. Thanks so much everybody.
Thanks Adam. Have a great couple of weeks.