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It's top spin. 
That's LGBT. 

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Have a listen. 
Make signals with the ball boys.

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Hey everybody, and welcome to 
the latest episode of The Ball 

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Boys. 
We are the tennis podcast that 

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puts the Valentin Vashiro and 
Teresa Valentova in Valentine's 

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Day. 
I'm your host, Paul Monkle and 

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bringing you the insights, 
outbursts, giggles and wiggles 

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of the ATP and WTA tours. 
And on today's show, we are 

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talking all things love. 
Happy Valentine's Day, 

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everybody. 
If you have a Double S partner 

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or if you're just focusing on 
your singles game, we have a big

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shot of love just for you. 
And we're talking about love in 

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all of its forms. 
The love of the game, Love 

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bites. 
Love means nothing. 

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Yeah, love is blind. 
And I think there's something in

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the air. 
We're still in the afterglow of 

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the Bad Bunny performance at the
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I'm not sure, but I think Bad 
Bunny might have invented the 

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halftime show because Oh my God,
that got me speaking in tongues.

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And we are smack in the middle 
of the Winter Olympics where 

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every four years I fall head 
over heels for double S, luge 

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and short track speed skating 
and biathlons where of course 

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they combine cross country 
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And I'll just say it, I think we
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indictments of the current 
administration. 

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Look, I'm almost thinking of 
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the Sunshine Double. 
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It's all happening. 
And Speaking of the Sunshine 

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Double, I have a big 
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out to Indian Wells on March 
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The ball boys are throwing a 
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Hills Country Club from 3:00 to 
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We're joined by the fabulous 
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and we're going to be serving up
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balls. 
We've got drink specials like 

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the Ball Drop, and we've got 
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from some tennis drag Queens. 
You do not want to miss these 

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Go check it out. 
And now back to the tennis. 

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We are in the part of the season
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every which way you look is a 
different draw, a different 

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story, a different winner. 
No, I don't have commitment 

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issues. 
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that. 
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And I've said it before, I love 
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And we've got some big hitters 
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dominance at the 500 levels and 
not a word from anyone in the 

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top four since Australia to 
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Guys, I'm a little nervous 
because this almost feels like a

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first date because we've got a 
brand spanking new ball boy on 

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and a case of new balls. 
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I am so excited to have this 
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He's the senior producer of 
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and he goes around the world 
literally living my dream life. 

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It's Charles Connolly. 
Charles, it's so great to have 

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you on the show. 
How are you? 

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I'm great. 
Thank you for having me. 

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I'm very excited about this 
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I've heard about it for a while 
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long time too, so. 
Oh yeah, I've been wanting to 

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get you on the show for a while.
I am obsessed with your 

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background and your story. 
We're going to get into all of 

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that, but just introduce 
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How's your tennis season been 
for 2026? 

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You were in Australia, right? 
Yeah, it's been good. 

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And this season I feel like it's
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still long already. 
There's so much tennis. 

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But yeah, I was on Australia. 
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it was beautiful. 
Like Melbourne's such a great 

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city and the S and Open, I mean,
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to the S and Open kind of says 
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It feels like a music festival. 
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for people who like, maybe 
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You can just go and like hang 
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But I was there for two weeks. 
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tournament and then the first 
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of 10. 
It was really hot too. 

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It was like 2 days where it was 
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There were some days where it 
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Wait, were you there for the one
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Yeah, I was in the turtle pet. 
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OK, I was kind of confused. 
This like the structure of the 

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one point slam. 
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one night, tournaments where it 
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round. 
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Grounds it was one point slam 
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Oh, no kidding. 
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like, you know, Liza West. 
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she played, I think she posted 
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right. 
I know she played the girl who 

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made the final for like first 
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She lost the point. 
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qualifying and then the the one 
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those matches. 
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Interesting. 
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confused about what the rules 
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I was like, Murat Saffin was in 
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like, these are not amateurs. 
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someone who's just showing up 
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I mean, you know, it was a 
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It just felt very campy. 
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in hand. 
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that happened for the two weeks 
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Give me your Rosen Thorn. 
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tournament. 
I always love media day that the

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players all coming through and 
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them all. 
I still kind of get starstruck 

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seeing them in person and 
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So that is never a normal 
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I'd say that that was the Rose 
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tournament in general and then 
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I don't know, two weeks is kind 
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I mean, I would do it all over 
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But by the end, you know, you 
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ready to, like, be in your own 
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And some days it was kind of 
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too bad. 
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I mean Tennis Australia did such
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the tour and promoting opening 
week of the the qualities in the

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one point slam. 
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It looked a little bit like 
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Yeah, it was. 
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I mean, it was a long one. 
There were a lot of people 

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there. 
I think it was just a testament 

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how easy it is to go to that 
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There's live music, there's 
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site which was cool. 
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It's very easy to get to. 
It's not like Queens or 

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anything. 
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Right, it's a good location. 
You mentioned the media day and 

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getting still a little star 
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Who gets you starstruck still? 
Who gets me starstruck still? 

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Honestly, I would say Novak 
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It's like when he walks into the
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media terrace, it just kind of 
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But I feel like I still get 
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Carlos Alcaraz, He's like very 
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intimidating at all. 
Super nice. 

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You know, that's interesting 
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double S format at the US Open 
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They're they're sort of 
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I I'm almost going to call it a 
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kind of like that. 
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and the crowd went from very 
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to rapt attention. 
Like, yeah, he's got that aura. 

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It's just like, oh, Novak's 
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attention. 
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
That's crazy. 

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Are you a fan of the Olympics? 
Yes, yeah, I am. 

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I am too, but I feel like am I 
crazy or is did this year's kind

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of sneak up on us? 
Like I used to know every figure

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skater I couldn't. 
Like is Michelle Kwan still out 

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there? 
I don't even. 

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Know Oh my God, Michelle Kwan, I
think I had a poster of her in 

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my childhood bedroom in Texas. 
I didn't even know anything 

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about figure skating. 
I had never even like figure 

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skated but. 
It's just like I need it. 

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Right. 
You're right. 

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It did kind of sneak up on us. 
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happening later. 
It just kind of like started, 

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yeah. 
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ago we saw the state of some of 
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It's like, well, that's not 
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So maybe I was expecting it to 
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it's been a great game so far. 
I'm locked in. 

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And did you see Ilia Mellon in 
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I didn't see his program, but I 
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Not good. 
Yeah, everyone was saying it was

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a foregone conclusion. 
Sorry, Nick. 

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MC Carville. 
Carville. 

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Super into ice skating. 
Yeah, and well, and he posted 

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like, Oh well, we all know who's
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And I was like, do we? 
Because yeah, I watched it and 

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it was, it was brutal. 
I feel really bad for him. 

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Hopefully. 
Is a privilege, he said. 

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It was like the pressure, right?
The expectation. 

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It's the Olympic pressure. 
It's not like anything else. 

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And because he's he's our 
Michelle Kwan, you know, I 

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don't, I couldn't really name 
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for him. 
So it's like, OK, like that's a 

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lot of pressure do. 
You remember Johnny Weir? 

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Yeah, I'm watching the traders 
right now. 

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I'm upset. 
Me too. 

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Yeah. 
Johnny Weir. 

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And then Adam Ripon. 
Do you remember him, too? 

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Oh yeah, yeah, those are the 
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can I can list. 
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Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan
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Those are the only three, but. 
Well, and Tara Lipinski, she's 

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also on the trailers. 
Yeah, Tara, Johnny, it's it's a 

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good season. 
No spoilers y'all, but it's it's

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a good season. 
It's so good. 

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Yeah, yeah, I want to go on. 
That's so bad. 

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We need the ball boys to get. 
Bigger so I can be a celebrity. 

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They're taking applications for 
like, plebeians now. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
You can apply as like a normal 

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person. 
They're like bring me back to 

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Season 1 format. 
I think they're running out of 

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celebrities to get on the show. 
Well, you know, it's funny 

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though, because it's so big, 
it's getting bigger and bigger 

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that I would imagine they'd be 
getting more. 

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But I guess, I mean, there's 
only so many Survivor players 

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and Housewives out there. 
Well, anyway, we got we can talk

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reality TV all day long, but we 
got to get some tennis and we're

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going to start off with our 
segment. 

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Whenever we have a new ball, 
boy, it's called new balls 

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Please, where we get deep, we 
probe you on just how gay you 

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are for tennis. 
So I got a couple of questions 

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for you, Charles. 
Are you gay TP or WT gay? 

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And WT Gay. 
Really. 

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Yeah, I mean, why? 
Well, the outfits, really. 

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The looks. 
Did you like Naomi's look at 

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Australia? 
I didn't and the opinions that I

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share are my own. 
They're not Tennis Channels 

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opinions. 
These are. 

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I'm not representing Tennis 
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They're all my own. 
But I did not. 

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I wasn't a fan to be honest. 
It was, it was a tough look. 

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I was glad she did it, but it 
was tough. 

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Exactly, I'm not saying like she
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taking a risk. 
Love that. 

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Someone's doing it. 
But it wasn't my personal taste.

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Like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't 
wear it. 

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I could oh, come on, a drapey 
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to court. 
I think that would look fabulous

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on you. 
I did like the pleated, like the

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white pleated pants, those were 
cool. 

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I liked how they moved when she 
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like it underneath the dress. 
It was just it was every grandma

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in South Florida walking in the 
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pant. 
But anyway, OK, so you love. 

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So you're more WTA these days 
then. 

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Have you always been more about 
the Ladies tour? 

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Yeah. 
I mean, I think that that's like

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what introduced me to pro tennis
in general. 

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I think if you ask any gay male 
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25 to 50, they'll say Venus and 
Serena as their foe Ray into the

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sport. 
I mean, maybe, you know, you 

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have like the Divas like Monica 
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Jennifer Capriotti and those, 
but Venus and Serena really 

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introduced me to the sport. 
So I've been like the WTA loyal.

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But recently though, with 
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I'm converting. 
I'm watching more ATP and I'm 

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like appreciating the men's game
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Yeah, I'm glad you said Jennifer
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on this show, she was my Britney
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I was like, that is my diva. 
And I still love I love 

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everything about Jennifer 
Capriotti. 

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I know she's said some 
polarizing things. 

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I know it, but I the heart wants
what it wants. 

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But I agree. 
I mean, I was very much gay TP 

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but the women's tour right now, 
and we're going to talk about it

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with some of the matchups in the
Middle East. 

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We keep sending these poor girls
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has been some. 
Just the depth of the tours is 

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so good right now and I'm here 
for it. 

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Tell me more about your tennis 
background. 

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Like what makes you a ball boy? 
How'd you get into tennis? 

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I grew up in a small town called
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the whole town was so focused on
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I was not trying to play 
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I was from a big football 
family, but I knew I wanted to, 

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like, play a sport and get a 
ball. 

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So my parents sent me to like a 
little weekend tennis camp that 

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was happening in my hometown. 
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And then, of course, Venus and 
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seriously. 
And then I went to college, and 

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that's where I first met people 
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And I was like, oh, there are 
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tennis. 
And that's when I really started

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getting into it and watching it 
and following the sport. 

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And I just loved the individual 
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And I loved how it was kind of 
like, what's that fighter game, 

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Mortal Kombat or something where
you can like choose your your 

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fighter. 
Say more. 

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I feel like with tennis you can 
have somebody who kind of 

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represents you and you can 
follow them on the tour. 

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And I feel like with a lot of 
gay men, they like are looking 

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for representation anywhere they
can find it. 

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So you see this like little 
avatar tennis player and you're 

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like, oh, like that is me. 
So you kind of latch on. 

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And so I think that's kind of 
why I liked watching tennis in 

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Bracketville is because it was 
an escape from like the the like

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Friday Night Lights of the small
town. 

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But then I just kept following 
the tour. 

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And then I worked in production 
after College in Austin and then

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I moved to LA and sought out 
Tennis Channel was like, I would

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love to work there. 
And so, Long story short, I 

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reached out and asked for an 
interview and was hired in 2017 

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to be like a social media 
coordinator. 

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And here I am, seven years 
later. 

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You're talking about what 
appealed to you about the sport 

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as a young gay boy, but I want 
you to speak for everybody. 

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Why do gay people love tennis? 
The outfits. 

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Is it the outfits? 
No, not just the outfits, but 

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maybe kind of. 
I feel like tennis is a sport 

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where there's a lot of 
self-expression. 

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I feel like that's why a lot of 
gay men gravitate towards like 

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figure skating too. 
Also figure skating is just very

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gay inherently. 
Even if they had to wear like 

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uniforms, it would be gay. 
Don't tell Ilya Mellen in that. 

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Oh my God, he does not like 
that. 

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So I heard about that, but I 
didn't actually dive into like 

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any remarks that he made. 
But I heard yeah, different 

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podcast moving on. 
But but yeah, truly, like, I 

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think self-expression is a huge 
thing in tennis. 

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And for me, I also liked tennis 
because team sports as a young 

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boy intimidated me because I was
surrounded by other boys. 

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And maybe I'm speaking for me, 
just me. 

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But I think for some young gay 
men, there's a little bit of a 

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fear of other straight boys when
you're in adolescence, fear of 

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being found out, fear of being 
like called out as different or 

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being too feminine. 
So like with basketball or 

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football or baseball, you're 
like surrounded by these 

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straight boys who are kind of 
auditing your character and 

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auditing how you're operating. 
Whereas in tennis, it's just 

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you. 
So you can like maybe relax a 

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little bit more. 
If you make a mistake, nobody's 

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watching you. 
We're looking you or why you 

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made the mistake. 
It's all on you. 

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So it's very individual. 
It was a way, at least for me, 

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to create some space between me 
and the other straight boys 

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while also satisfying my 
athletic needs. 

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I love all that. 
It is a really expressive sport.

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I mean, there's a tennis 
personality and who you are and 

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how you carry yourself can 
really translate to the court. 

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I mean, being aggressive, being 
tricky, being kind of quiet, all

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of those personality types can 
win. 

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Whereas I feel like in other 
sports like basketball, you kind

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of have one personality that 
wins. 

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And just watching the the final 
today between Mukova and Imboko,

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I mean, their their styles were 
actually pretty complementary of

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each other, but it was a 
different way of playing them 

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like a Sabalenka or a Paolini. 
And there's not one way to win 

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and get self-expression is, is 
really that that that's very 

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interesting. 
I love that. 

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And yeah, absolutely every team 
sport that I was on through high

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school, it was, OK, let's get 
through this. 

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And then you'd get to the tennis
court and it's like, oh, you can

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breathe. 
You know, it's like, oh, OK, 

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yeah, yeah. 
There's something, there's 

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something in the water, the the 
tennis water where gay, 

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especially gay men just love 
tennis. 

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So I'm going to keep asking 
every ball boy who comes on here

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and folks at home. 
By the way, if you want to be on

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this show and join us for new 
balls, please feel free to reach

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out to me over on Instagram. 
Love getting people on the show.

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I want to get every ball boy on 
this show. 

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But back to you, Charles. 
Speed round Yannick or Carlos? 

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Carlos. 
Give me 3 words why? 

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Charisma, uniqueness. 
Uniqueness. 

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Urban talent, Charisma, 
showmanship and energy. 

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That I that's a perfect answer. 
Miami or Indian Wells? 

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Indian Wells. 
Why? 

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It just feels like more 
esteemed. 

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I don't know, it just feels like
more steeped in tennis history. 

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Miami's, like exciting and cool 
for its own reasons, but Indian 

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Wells, that's called tennis 
paradise. 

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The palm trees, the desert, it's
kind of like the first big 

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tournament back in the states of
the seasons. 

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And it's California and like, 
the grounds are so beautiful and

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everybody's always there, 
celebrities and stuff, so. 

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Yeah, it's funny, I have mixed 
feelings about it. 

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Similar to what you're talking 
about the crowds of Melbourne, 

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like the last few times I've 
gone to any Wells, it's just the

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crowds. 
It's it's too much. 

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I don't know. 
There needs to be like a podcast

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section, like just let me, let 
me sit and have my $20 raw 

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pizza. 
But yeah, it's it is great and 

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I'm very excited to be out there
for the tennis and T dance, 

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which Charles, I'm going to make
you come to. 

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I would love to see you there. 
You are going to be on the dance

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floor. 
You know the drag Queens. 

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Yes, Charles, welcome to the 
stage. 

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Charles Charlie Drag name is 
Charles. 

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What is your favorite surface? 
My favorite surface. 

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I mean I've I've played mostly 
on hardcore. 

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I've never played on grass but 
favorite first to watch? 

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I would say probably hardcore 
and to play hardcore as well. 

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Yeah, I love the hardcore. 
It's it's the least tricky to 

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me. 
It's like a fluency thing where 

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other services I do love to 
watch. 

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I love to watch on clay and 
grass though. 

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Like I went to Wimbledon a few 
years ago. 

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Watching Wimbledon live, that 
ball is so fast. 

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Holy crap. 
I can imagine. 

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I think they like designed the 
ball to like skid even faster 

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off the court. 
So it's like glass. 

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Like, yeah, it's crazy. 
It's funny, there was a a thing 

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on social media about what the 
Winter Olympics in tennis and 

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they were playing on ice and it 
looked very much like that. 

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I was like, yeah, that feels 
like Wimbledon. 

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And the funniest part about 
Wimbledon was also all of the 

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ball kids, you know, my people, 
the number of times they fell, 

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you don't see it on TV, but 
they're they're sprinting all 

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out and they stop on a dime on 
grass. 

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Then you go into the wall, you 
fall. 

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Every match. 
There were multiple falls. 

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I was like, guys. 
You don't have to go with that. 

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Like chill but. 
Like you're like the ball kid. 

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Training program at Wimbledon is
very rigorous. 

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Oh yeah. 
Yeah, did have you, because 

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bring up Eliza W again. 
She was a ball girl at 

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Wimbledon. 
Oh yeah. 

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And I was looking into like the 
process of applying the All 

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England Tennis Club selects from
certain schools around London 

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and they will only get ball kids
from these schools. 

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Like I guess they're like 
fancier schools or whatever. 

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It's technically open to the 
public. 

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It's like if you go to these 
schools, we'll we'll accept 

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applications and then we'll only
choose 10% to come into training

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or something less than 10%. 
That feels very Wimbledon. 

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I don't know if I love that, but
it feels very Wimbledon. 

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Yeah, I was like, oh, that 
sucks. 

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Like it's not open, It's just 
only available to the school. 

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Yeah. 
Oh well, it's. 

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Like I've got to get my kid into
the school for the Wimbledon 

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ball boy feeder program. 
Like, OK, like this. 

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Let's calm down. 
What's your favorite tournament?

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Favorite tournament? 
That's a tough one. 

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You know, recently I really 
found like a love for 

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Cincinnati. 
Really. 

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Yeah, but I feel like all the 
players are there. 

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It's leading up to the US Open. 
We're in the States. 

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The time zone is like the same 
kind of as the American viewers 

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and it just got like a huge 
upgrade. 

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So the courts are brand new. 
But to watch, I mean, there's 

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really nothing like Wimbledon. 
Like I feel like just generally 

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watching Wimbledon, I feel like 
everybody can give that same 

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answer. 
Yeah. 

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It just feels special so. 
Yeah, I mean, yeah, Wimbledon is

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is definitely my favorite Slam. 
I would say that it's not my 

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favorite tournament overall, but
it's definitely my favorite 

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Slam. 
Cincinnati, though, that's an 

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interesting answer. 
I was like, do you like Six 

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Flags and funnel cake? 
But. 

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It's and going there like 
because it's not even really in 

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Cincinnati. 
It's in Mason, which is like 20 

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minutes north and it's like a 
weird location. 

450
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,520
I've gone twice now, but I like 
it. 

451
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,080
If you get a chance to go to 
Cincinnati, they have a great 

452
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,920
Applebee's down the road. 
Well, that was the thing I was 

453
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,680
looking at going and I was like,
wait, this isn't even in since I

454
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,880
do love like a second tier city.
I love a second tier city gay 

455
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,880
bar. 
I love a second degree city like

456
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,400
shopping district. 
This is like, yeah, this is 

457
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,520
Mason. 
It's just a Best Buy and a 

458
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,080
Outback Steakhouse. 
I don't even even know. 

459
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:53,520
But no, literally, yeah. 
What's your favorite stroke? 

460
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,760
The serve. 
Serve, yeah. 

461
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,360
It was like the only shot that I
could consistently practice 

462
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:02,640
because nobody in my hometown 
plays tennis, so I just serve on

463
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,400
the tennis court. 
That's so sad. 

464
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,160
And then the 4th give me a good 
serve. 

465
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,480
Serving just a wall alone all. 
Childhood. 

466
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,280
Literally. 
Are you tall? 

467
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,720
You seem tall, but we're on 
Zoom. 

468
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,760
I'm like 6/2 and 1/2. 6/2 and 
1/2. 

469
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,360
Yeah, I could say 6-3, but I'm 
not 63. 

470
00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:23,440
So everyone's like, you're not 
6, but yeah, 63. 

471
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,360
Yeah, well, look, a lot of 
people who are like 5-7 and a 

472
00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:27,800
half, they lie and they're like,
I'm 59. 

473
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,080
So I mean, let's, you know, 
looking at you Matthew Paluch, 

474
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,520
it's going to call people out. 
I'm the same height and I love 

475
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,960
my serve and I'm a lefty so. 
OK, that's tough. 

476
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,960
That's that's how I get a lot of
free points because sometimes 

477
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,520
the rest of my game is shite. 
Are you single? 

478
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,320
I am single. 
Oh, what are you looking for in 

479
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,160
a tennis partner or a life 
partner? 

480
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,520
And a tennis partner, like 
double S, whatever, double S 

481
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,400
partner, a good backhand and a 
good volley to take the backhand

482
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,280
side. 
And then like good sense of 

483
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,920
humor. 
Like I don't like take it too 

484
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,680
seriously on the court. 
I like to like laugh and have a 

485
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,560
good time. 
So yeah, I think those two 

486
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,240
qualities and then in a life 
partner I'm looking for. 

487
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,240
The same thing. 
Kind of the same thing. 

488
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,720
Had good backhand and good sense
of humor. 

489
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,640
You know a good backhand and a 
life partner can can go either 

490
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,680
way, but sometimes it really 
hits the spot. 

491
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,280
Yeah, good backhand can take you
a long way. 

492
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,480
In this life, sure can. 
Well, folks out there, Charles 

493
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,000
Connolly will be tagged in this 
show. 

494
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,000
So again, come to our Instagram 
and you will see Mr. Connolly 

495
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,280
there. 
What's your Instagram handle? 

496
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,560
The Instagram of the ball boys. 
What's the handle? 

497
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:50,040
It is at TBB tennis, the ball 
boys tennis doesn't quite roll 

498
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,480
off the tongue, but just you 
wait until we start the ball 

499
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,800
boys football, the ball boys 
soccer. 

500
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,600
All that is coming out soon, 
folks. 

501
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,080
We're doing the ball boys media 
tour. 

502
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,600
So just you wait. 
Do. 

503
00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:06,720
You all have a pit crew. 
Oh, that's a good idea. 

504
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,240
The Ball boys pit crew. 
Well, some people will be 

505
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,960
dressing up for Not in drag for 
the the tennis and tea dance, so

506
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,400
some short shorts will be 
present. 

507
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,440
I've been promised so. 
Oh, pit crew. 

508
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,640
I love a poom poom short. 
If you work in the Tennis 

509
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,720
Channel, you've been there for 
8/8 and 1/2 years, but what 

510
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,560
exactly does the senior producer
of content do? 

511
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,560
I'm sure people are curious. 
Yeah, producers kind of a job 

512
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,320
where a lot of people don't 
really know exactly what they 

513
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,560
do, but basically no idea. 
It's determining the creative 

514
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,400
for like a feature, coming up 
with ideas to ask questions to 

515
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,560
the players at tournaments, just
like figuring out what video 

516
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,840
content needs to go out and then
like making it happen. 

517
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,160
It kind of like varies week to 
week based on the tournaments. 

518
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,640
Some events I'll be going to the
tournament like Australia and 

519
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,480
I'll come up with a plan for 
media day. 

520
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,040
So I'll determine which 
questions to ask, which players 

521
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,680
and then I'll reach out to the 
representative who requests the 

522
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,600
players through their agents. 
I'll determine who and how this 

523
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,880
is being filmed, which crew 
we're using, if we're using like

524
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:22,720
an in house crew or somebody 
local, like hiring that crew and

525
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,480
then ingesting the footage and 
then working with the editor on 

526
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,080
choosing the right shots and 
coming up with like a video and 

527
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,920
then delivering it to wherever 
it needs to go. 

528
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,520
So it's like from concepts to 
like on your TV or computer 

529
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,320
screen. 
That's kind of what the producer

530
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,440
does, like follows the video all
the way through. 

531
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,080
You make it, you make it happen.
So you weren't the guy asking 

532
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,560
all the Americans in Australia 
about the current 

533
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,760
administration? 
Or was that you? 

534
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,080
No, no, that was not me. 
But I saw that those series of 

535
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,280
questions. 
It was over and over again. 

536
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,200
I feel like it could have 
worked, but I don't think he was

537
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,080
asking it in the right way per 
SE. 

538
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:03,840
Like he wasn't framing it very 
well. 

539
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,240
It felt like kind of like a a 
gotcha moment versus the 

540
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,600
beginning of a potentially good 
conversation. 

541
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,880
Yeah, I think because it's OK to
ask about national pride and 

542
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,960
like, do you feel patriotic 
still and make it kind of 

543
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,360
general? 
You can still use the sound 

544
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,480
bites in a piece. 
But he was like literally asking

545
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,120
about the administration, which 
is such a hard question to 

546
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,360
answer and a huge 
responsibility. 

547
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,160
It's like, speak the whole 
country. 

548
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,600
Yeah, especially right after a 
match where maybe you lost like 

549
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,080
not in the best mood. 
So yeah, it was, it was it kept,

550
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,880
it was, it was a it was quite a 
sight. 

551
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,120
And but I was thinking about it 
and, you know, there's the 

552
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:48,960
definitely like a a good 
argument for asking those types 

553
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,160
of questions right now. 
You know, I hold the Russians 

554
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,600
and Belarusians very responsible
for what they say about the war.

555
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,240
So yeah, I mean, we've got, 
we've got to get the message out

556
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,560
there. 
But it's just, it was, it was a 

557
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,680
very uncomfortable series of 
questions to watch, I think for.

558
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,600
Everyone so it was awkward and 
like I agree that's a fair 

559
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,200
question to ask. 
It's also completely fair for 

560
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,800
the player to like not want to 
answer. 

561
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,440
So yeah, in my opinion I'm of 
the camp you can ask whatever 

562
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,160
you want, impress, but don't 
expect the response you want 

563
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,240
from the player. 
Like the, the player reserves 

564
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,360
the right to answer however they
want or not answer. 

565
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,280
Yeah, exactly. 
And then that's what I was kind 

566
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,600
of trying to say in the 
beginning, which I think you 

567
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,400
said much better. 
I feel like the guy was looking 

568
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,160
for an answer that he wanted to 
get versus a dialogue so. 

569
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,760
Exactly. 
Have you done anything crazy for

570
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,520
a story like, Oh my God, we've 
got to like, go get a butterfly 

571
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,840
net for Naomi? 
Well, my and immediately I think

572
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,560
of Trixie Mattel. 
Of course, when I worked with 

573
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:56,080
Trixie Mattel in 2022, we did 
like a shoot with her and we did

574
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,920
like. 
Wait, wait, wait, wait for what?

575
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:04,080
What for tennis? 
It was for Pride Month and we 

576
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,600
shot a bag check with her. 
We shot an Australian Open 

577
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,400
fashion segment with her. 
She is so amazing and so 

578
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,280
professional and that like is in
my memory is like a standout 

579
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,040
moment at Tennis Channel working
with Trixie Mattel. 

580
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,040
And then the other moment that I
was just talking to Kyle, one of

581
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:29,320
my Co workers about yesterday. 
We went to Alaska in 2019, right

582
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,960
before, right before the 
pandemic, December 2019, because

583
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,080
we were doing a story on this 
Alaskan tennis player who is 

584
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,840
trying to make it on the pro 
tour. 

585
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,360
But obviously, like in Alaska, 
you can't play tennis year round

586
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,240
because it's frozen like half 
the year and it's also dark half

587
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,200
the year. 
So we went up there in December 

588
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,760
2019 and we only had like 4 
hours of light in a day. 

589
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,400
And we were there for like maybe
four or five days doing this 

590
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,960
story on this tennis player. 
If one of the side jobs was 

591
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,520
delivering Donuts for Krispy 
Kreme. 

592
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,720
So we would take Donuts to the 
airport, like the local airport 

593
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,440
for the Krispy Kreme location in
the airport. 

594
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,320
So we woke up at 4:00 AM to like
follow him to the airport to 

595
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,280
that was crazy like and. 
And where is that guy today? 

596
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,120
I don't know. 
I mean and. 

597
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,720
That's a young Yonic Sinner. 
Yeah, and that was Naomi Osaka, 

598
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,360
right? 
Right. 

599
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,400
No, no, no, I don't know. 
I mean, I don't know if he's 

600
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,680
still playing. 
Maybe, but he would. 

601
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,560
He played in college and it was 
just like a human interest 

602
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,240
story. 
I love that. 

603
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,680
I love that. 
Like you literally do have like 

604
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,440
my dream job. 
I mean, I'm not, I'm not gunning

605
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,720
for your gig. 
I'm not going to show girls you,

606
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,880
but if you if you were going 
down the stairs in front of me, 

607
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,800
but. 
Watch out. 

608
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:55,720
Watch your back any any like 
little tidbits of player gossip 

609
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,200
or anything that you've seen or 
like, Oh my God, this one like 

610
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,120
won't stop eating Krispy Kreme. 
Won't be Krispy Kreme. 

611
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,160
Give us the Goss well. 
That'd be me. 

612
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,600
That would be me. 
I won't stop eating Krispy 

613
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,720
Kreme. 
But in terms of the players? 

614
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,320
Like there's been a lot of 
drama. 

615
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,320
Like we're like, OK, everyone 
hates, can win. 

616
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,400
Everyone's like yelling at ego, 
like, like, I don't know, like, 

617
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,200
do you see that? 
No, I don't. 

618
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,000
Honestly I think the the biggest
piece of gossip which is might 

619
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,200
may be boring as the players are
just like more normal and kind 

620
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,040
and just cool. 
Then they appear on screen when 

621
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,520
they're on the tennis court we 
see them in like 1 of their most

622
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,440
high stress, high pressure 
environments. 

623
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,960
So like they're at least I can 
say there are versions of myself

624
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,160
on the tennis court that are 
truly like the worst versions of

625
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,040
myself. 
Monster. 

626
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,440
And if that's the only version 
people saw of me, holy, I can't 

627
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,800
imagine. 
But I will say I don't know why 

628
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,280
this hopped in my head. 
Jessica the Gula is like the 

629
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,440
coolest, most chill person 
outside, which you probably 

630
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,400
picked up on that as she's been 
more in the spotlight. 

631
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,640
Media day she comes in, She's so
chill, so cool. 

632
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,600
Her energy is so like. 
I just want to give a big shout 

633
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,760
out to Jessica if you like your 
fellow podcaster. 

634
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,880
I know. 
She is, she's become one of my 

635
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,920
favorites to work with the media
day because she's like just so 

636
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,280
cool and relaxed. 
Yeah, no, I, I, I appreciate the

637
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,880
call out and yes, she is a 
fellow podcaster. 

638
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,520
It's a very competitive space 
and I'm very sad that in 

639
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,000
Australia when she played Maddie
Keys, they then became the first

640
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,800
ever podcast partners to play 
each other in a Grand Slam. 

641
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,960
So I no longer have opportunity 
to get that that Guinness 

642
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,920
record. 
So this will be the first male 

643
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,120
podcaster. 
This is true. 

644
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,320
This is true. 
OK, well I also need to find a 

645
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,600
permanent Co host. 
But Charles. 

646
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,840
I'll play you at Wimbledon. 
OK guys, you heard it. 

647
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,920
You heard it here first. 
That is a legally binding 

648
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:01,320
contract. 
Charles and I are playing at 

649
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:08,920
Wimbledon for the 1 LB Slam. 
Jesus, jeez, Jesus, I bet you 

650
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,600
Madison Keys or or Jessica 
Pegula would like be on your 

651
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,800
podcast or come to Tea dance. 
Madison's like a like an ally. 

652
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,520
Oh yeah, no. 
I'm. 

653
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,440
I mean, they all are, but. 
I'm trying to get them. 

654
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,920
I'm trying to get morgues out 
here. 

655
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,640
I'm trying to get them all. 
Gosh, I'm obsessed with morgues.

656
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,680
She's so good. 
She's so good. 

657
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,840
She's so correct. 
Well, that actually leads us to 

658
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,320
our our next segment to quote 
Celine Dion's 15th studio album,

659
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,520
Let's Talk About Love. 
So famously, there have been a 

660
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,280
lot of player romances. 
I'm just curious, do you have 

661
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:45,680
any like favorite professional 
player couples like whether it's

662
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,920
Alex Demenauer and Kenny Bolter 
Spitty? 

663
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,120
Monkeys. 
I love Taylor and Morgan, I 

664
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,640
think they're so funny together.
Taylor's also really cool and 

665
00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,080
chill in person, but I love 
swiddling them on Feast. 

666
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,440
They're really cute. 
Alex Demonnar. 

667
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,320
I feel like he's going to be the
world's best husband. 

668
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,160
He seems so like thoughtful and 
considerate. 

669
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,000
Yeah, yeah. 
So it was very cute in Australia

670
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,679
when they had that whole like 
you're the 49% owner of a very 

671
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:15,440
valuable company. 
And that whole moment was was 

672
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,760
adorable. 
I will say I miss Citidosa, 

673
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:23,880
Citipas and Palabidosa. 
Like they were, they were, they 

674
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,560
were chaotic. 
All these other couples you 

675
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,760
mentioned were like, they're so 
cute. 

676
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,120
I was, I never looked at them as
like, oh, they're so cute, but 

677
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,480
they fit. 
It was toxic, but I loved it. 

678
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,920
Like that weird moment when they
were driving through Monte Carlo

679
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,080
in that quarter $1,000,000 car 
and just looking like stoned out

680
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,719
of their mind is just over at 
all like miserable. 

681
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,080
That was a very chaotic 
relationship, but I enjoyed, 

682
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,760
like, watching it kind of 
unfold. 

683
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,639
Yeah. 
Oh, no, I loved it. 

684
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,679
It's kind of like you were what 
you were talking about earlier 

685
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:56,880
with Naomi and self-expression. 
Like that couple gave me a lot 

686
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,320
more than like a Dimenauer and 
Bolter who I love and they're 

687
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,840
very cute, but I don't get much 
beyond that. 

688
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,840
I'm just like, OK, cool, great. 
Go have your life together. 

689
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,120
Very, very Prince Charming and 
Snow White. 

690
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:09,800
Great. 
Whatever. 

691
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,960
But like I want something messy.
Yeah, Steph and Paula were 

692
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,840
feeding the children for sure. 
They were posting about each 

693
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,520
other. 
We were watching our stories. 

694
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,360
Yeah, it was a fun relationship.
Yeah, and like the the following

695
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,720
and unfollowing and the the 
updates and the sadness and the 

696
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:29,040
weird coded messages, it was, it
was a delight. 

697
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,440
It it warmed my heart so. 
And like the one Bettencourt 

698
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,480
factor, Paula's Paula's 
ex-boyfriend, who's like the 

699
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,160
most gorgeous man. 
Wait, I don't know about this 

700
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,280
person. 
Tell us. 

701
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,400
Girl, look up Juan Bettencourt, 
look him up right now. 

702
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,920
I want to see her reaction. 
Really. 

703
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,840
Juan Betta. 
It says model as this. 

704
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,000
Holy shit. 
Oh my God. 

705
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,400
Post him on the Instagram. 
Current, current or previous 

706
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,560
boyfriend? 
That was before, before Steph 

707
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,480
she was looking for. 
Steph is no slouch. 

708
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,840
Steph is. 
Beautiful. 

709
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,760
Yeah, wow, wow. 
See his photo. 

710
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,280
On the Instagram now. 
Yeah. 

711
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,200
He's holding. 
A pickleball racket in one of 

712
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,920
them. 
So he's really coming for stuff.

713
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,360
He's in chaps in another one. 
Who is this gay baiting? 

714
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,880
What? 
Looks he looks AI generated. 

715
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,480
Seriously. 
Wow, OK, beautiful. 

716
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,720
But I actually think Steph can 
hold his own against this guy. 

717
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,160
I'm just going to say it, but 
you know, that's, hey, the, the 

718
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,600
other beautiful thing is that we
can all have personal tastes. 

719
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,800
And I think Steph in his 
messiness is like, I really, I 

720
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,800
love Sipsy Pasta's tweets. 
Like I know we're not supposed 

721
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,040
to be on Twitter anymore, but I,
I'm only on there for tennis 

722
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:55,800
research And he does the most 
esoteric, like poetic, lovesick 

723
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,520
existential crisis random 
tweets. 

724
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,920
And then he just walks away and 
it's just like he's a, he's a 

725
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,200
kook. 
I love him. 

726
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,440
That's how you're supposed to 
treat Twitter and social media 

727
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,160
in general. 
Just put out whatever you want. 

728
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:09,160
Yeah. 
And then move on. 

729
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,600
Yeah, exactly. 
OK, finally in our Little Love 

730
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,360
segment, I want to play a game 
as an homage to Steven Bauer, 

731
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,480
who is a comedian who does all 
these things of like these are 

732
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,040
all the fruit and if I would 
date them. 

733
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,000
So I am going to just list some 
tournaments and I'm going to ask

734
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,960
you if you would date them and I
want to hear if you would date 

735
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,240
them and why or why not. 
So Are you ready? 

736
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,680
Yes. 
OK, Charles Connolly And again, 

737
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,320
you're single, so maybe your 
boyfriend is one of these 

738
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,840
tournaments. 
Monte Carlo, Would you date it? 

739
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,000
Yeah. 
Yeah, why? 

740
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,400
I've I've always wanted a rich 
husband. 

741
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,200
They'd provide for me for life. 
OK, wow. 

742
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:59,480
OK, let's showing the colors 
there. 

743
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,360
I feel like there would be a 
prenup for sure because there's 

744
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,400
people like move to Monte Carlo 
for as a tax haven, so. 

745
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,360
That's generational wealth. 
They're not. 

746
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,200
Yeah, going to let you in. 
They're not going to let a 

747
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,520
little boy from Bracketville, 
Texas, come and get that money. 

748
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,760
Absolutely not. 
I love that your hometown is 

749
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,240
called Bracketville. 
And it's like, isn't there? 

750
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:20,360
Isn't that like a whole campaign
on ESPN? 

751
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,320
Like welcome to Bracketville. 
Yes, a long time ago for March 

752
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,800
Madness, yeah. 
But it's like no relation to 

753
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,960
your town. 
No, but I think that, I mean, 

754
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,520
they came up with a concept 
before they I think knew of the 

755
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,440
town. 
So I think they, I think they 

756
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,360
actually like went to 
Bracketville to film like a 

757
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,400
segment or something. 
OK. 

758
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,880
But yeah, it was on ESPN years 
ago, like 20 years ago. 

759
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,640
OK. 
Yeah, exactly. 

760
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,960
OK, OK. 
So you would date Monte Carlo 

761
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,440
Australian Open? 
Yes. 

762
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,920
Yes, Why? 
I feel like Australian Open 

763
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,560
would be like a happy go lucky 
fun sunshiny boyfriend. 

764
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,840
They'd be fun and upbeat. 
OK, Labor Cup. 

765
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,480
No, I wouldn't date Labor Cup. 
Why not? 

766
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:19,840
Labor Cup. 
I feel like they are all like 

767
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:26,680
surface level and no substance. 
OK, boom. 

768
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,120
This is just like this isn't 
like a statement on the like I 

769
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,840
like labor cop as an event but 
like as a boyfriend I would not.

770
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:35,960
Oh yeah, no, this is clear. 
No, absolutely. 

771
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,840
This is only these tournaments 
as boyfriends, if you would take

772
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,480
them. 
This segment is crazy. 

773
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,360
I love it. 
OK. 

774
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,760
The Canadian Open when it's in 
Toronto. 

775
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,840
No. 
OK, the Canadian Open when it's 

776
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,600
in Montreal. 
Yes. 

777
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,680
KY. 
I feel like Montreal is more 

778
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,400
French right? 
Though they speak French in 

779
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,840
Montreal. 
They do, which would be cool. 

780
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,280
Like I've never dated somebody 
whose primary language is 

781
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,920
French, so and I feel like they 
have a better day scene there, 

782
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,680
right? 
Oh, they do. 

783
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,240
I mean both cities are pretty 
pretty progressive, but I mean 

784
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:16,600
Montreal has those bars where 
like anything goes. 

785
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,200
So. 
I hear, Mom. 

786
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,840
I've never been, but I hear. 
But The thing is, the thing 

787
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,160
about the Montreal French, it's 
like that Kwabakis or whatever 

788
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,000
it's it's. 
Right. 

789
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,800
It's like if French had a 
southern accent like a like a 

790
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,240
from Alabama. 
Yeah, so if that's your vibe, 

791
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:35,960
yeah, I but you're right, I 
think Montreal is just a more 

792
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,800
romantic city for sure. 
Finally, the Six Kings Cup. 

793
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,400
No. 
Why not? 

794
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:54,960
Lots of reasons I might not be 
super welcome in Saudi Arabia, 

795
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,280
so. 
Correct. 

796
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,640
That might be the last choice 
you make, yeah. 

797
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:06,520
Yeah, although the field for 6 
Kings slam or 6 Kings cup is 

798
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,960
always super stacked. 
So I would watch, but I would 

799
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:15,400
not date. 
Enough said. 

800
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,880
Well, you got those all correct.
And so listeners, if you are a 

801
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,480
tournament or just a single 
person out there, Charles is 

802
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:34,050
looking. 
I do want to just list off a few

803
00:41:34,050 --> 00:41:36,410
lobs beans that happened since 
the last show. 

804
00:41:36,970 --> 00:41:39,890
Again, a lobs be in is anything 
that made us gayer for tennis. 

805
00:41:40,770 --> 00:41:44,210
I just got to do a quick call 
out for the Ositani Open is how 

806
00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:47,770
you say Ositani Open used to be 
called Leon, I think, or 

807
00:41:47,770 --> 00:41:50,840
Montpelier. 
The courts there are so sexy. 

808
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,960
It's those pink and Blues 
together. 

809
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,280
I love that they are having fun 
with her court color. 

810
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,400
And I think that other 
tournaments could have a little 

811
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,240
more fun with the colors of the 
courts. 

812
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,040
Maybe it would make it a little 
more interesting, maybe like an 

813
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,080
all black court or maybe pinks 
and I don't know, I feel like it

814
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,640
could be a fun thing so. 
I agree. 

815
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:13,440
Like a black court could be 
really cool and I feel like you 

816
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,080
see a lot of like darker colors 
indoors because I feel like 

817
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,160
there's like 2 factors. 
There's like broadcast. 

818
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,920
Can you see the ball on TV and 
is it going to boil the player 

819
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,480
if it's hot? 
Like playing on a black court in

820
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,920
Australia? 
Intense. 

821
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,200
But yeah, I love the pink 
colors. 

822
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,160
And in that tournament that you 
said for coming today. 

823
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,520
Yeah, Ositani, or however you 
say it. 

824
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,840
Yeah, it's like that skin care 
brand, Ositani. 

825
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,800
I never know how to say it. 
I'm just like the oh. 

826
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,240
Yeah, the O brand. 
The O for Oprah or you know, 

827
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:43,880
also there's technology out 
there. 

828
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,160
We we see these other courts 
turn over and like change 

829
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,800
colors. 
Like I don't know, like it's 

830
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,680
like one day it could be pink, 
one day it could be blue. 

831
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,960
I think we could just have a lot
more fun with court colors. 

832
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,880
So just putting it out there, 
organizers, if you want me to do

833
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,360
some color schemes, I am a 
schemer. 

834
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,760
Got to do a shout out. 
This guy's polarizing. 

835
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,600
But Jack Draper's cold plunge in
Norway ahead of his return to 

836
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:13,160
tennis, where the UK played 
Norway and Davis Cup qualifying 

837
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,560
and he scored his first win back
in five months. 

838
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,560
So that's great. 
But that cold plunge, did you 

839
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,640
see this cold plunge? 
It's just him and compatriot. 

840
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,600
I did see that. 
Yeah. 

841
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,120
Lobster. 
I would be nervous to, like, 

842
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,800
jump in cold water like that 
before an event. 

843
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,880
I'd get sick. 
But. 

844
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,720
And I'm sure it was like ice. 
Oh, yeah. 

845
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,440
But I guess I don't know, maybe 
the British immune system is 

846
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,440
stronger than mine. 
Well, it's supposed to be good 

847
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,280
for you like a cold plunge. 
It's supposed to be very like 

848
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,360
invigorating. 
And you know, like I'm sure 

849
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,680
you've been to Century Spa. 
I haven't, no. 

850
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,320
Oh, I haven't either. 
But I've been to We Spa and 

851
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,000
they've got a cold plunge and 
it's wonderful. 

852
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:51,160
Oh, I love that. 
Yeah, have you ever been to We 

853
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,360
Spa? 
No, I don't think about it. 

854
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,840
Though I don't know if the idea 
of a Korean spa is appealing to 

855
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,440
you, but it's wonderful. 
It's very chill and it's just 

856
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,680
like plunges and whatnot. 
And they've got an amazing 

857
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,920
Korean restaurant upstairs with 
like $16.00 giant Pokey Bowl. 

858
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,040
It's great. 
OK, so catch me at we spa. 

859
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,640
Yeah, yeah. 
OK, listeners, Charles will be 

860
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,400
at WE Spa if you want to date 
him. 

861
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,080
If you're a tournament, we've 
got a bunch of other Lobstians 

862
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,560
real quick. 
We've got the Dallas 

863
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,840
cheerleaders at the Dallas Open.
I just love that between matches

864
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,080
they would come out and do some 
routines. 

865
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,480
Your home states. 
Obviously the the Dallas Cowboy 

866
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,720
cheerleaders are iconic. 
It's very campy and it also 

867
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:39,240
makes me just think like, what 
can we be doing between matches 

868
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,080
that is a little funnier and 
weirder. 

869
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,240
And so I love that Dallas went 
for that. 

870
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,000
Do you like the Dallas Cowboy 
cheerleaders? 

871
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,880
Yes, I mean, you have. 
I do. 

872
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,320
I'm a big fan. 
I love their show on Netflix 

873
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,880
too. 
America's Sweethearts. 

874
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,160
And finally, Pammy is back on 
TV. 

875
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,120
She barely left us. 
She was part of that shake up 

876
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,200
over at ESPN and no longer being
part of the Australian Open 

877
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,200
coverage, which I was very sad 
about. 

878
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,080
I love Pam Shriver, but I was 
watching Tennis Channel the 

879
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,840
other day and Pammy is right 
there at the desk hosting at 

880
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,960
least one of the hours with a 
couple of people. 

881
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,440
I just love her. 
And so you see her now on. 

882
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,280
Occasion, I mean, I I wouldn't 
say I see her very frequently, 

883
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,200
but like at the tournaments like
she worked Roland Garris for us 

884
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:28,920
a few years ago and she is such 
a personality. 

885
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,680
Like Pam Shriver really is a 
gem. 

886
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,240
And I want to see more of her on
TV. 

887
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:38,400
Like she just makes watching 
tennis more interesting and 

888
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,640
she's a kooky, goofy personality
and she's so funny on Instagram.

889
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:42,880
Follow her on Instagram too. 
Oh. 

890
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,440
I don't follow her. 
Is she? 

891
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:46,560
What did she do? 
Did she like? 

892
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,480
She just posts her life like 
she's not too fussy with what 

893
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,040
she posts. 
Like the other day there was 

894
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,000
like a snake in her house. 
So she had like catch this snake

895
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,560
or something. 
But her Instagram is Pam Shriver

896
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,800
under SCORE official and she's 
great. 

897
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,320
Under score if it not the don't 
don't follow the unofficial. 

898
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,440
That one is not Pam. 
That's me. 

899
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,000
That's me pretending to Pam. 
Amazing. 

900
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,400
We're going to wrap up the show 
with a few more things. 

901
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,920
First, we got to start out with 
Twit, which is this week in 

902
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,640
tennis 'cause there has, like I 
said, been a lot of action. 

903
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,080
Just as a reminder, though, we 
cannot possibly cover every 

904
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,480
match on this show. 
If you're coming here for the 

905
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,360
latest scores, you're going to 
be more disappointed than I was 

906
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,640
after paying all of that money 
to that matchmaker and still 

907
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,680
spending Valentine's Day all 
alone. 

908
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,840
Although I guess I'm not 
spending it alone because I'm 

909
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,200
here with Charles. 
It's our big first date. 

910
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,920
This is Valentine's Day and I. 
Know that, Charles. 

911
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,480
Happy Valentine's Day. 
Thank you. 

912
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,040
Happy together. 
Lovely. 

913
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,640
Yeah, just some big headlines 
though from around the tour. 

914
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,440
So we've got some major 
Montpelier mojo. 

915
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:58,240
First off, Arthur Fees is back. 
Another stalwart of the Bay TP 

916
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:01,480
rankings. 
Arthur Fees was gone since the 

917
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,320
Rogers Cup last year with an 
injury. 

918
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,240
He comes back in France and 
makes it all the way the 

919
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:12,360
quarters, but then he comes up 
against that juggernaut Felix OJ

920
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,840
Ali Yassim, who was so locked 
in. 

921
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,160
And look, we know when someone 
is locked. 

922
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,200
They are more focused. 
In his match against Arthur 

923
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,840
Fees, FAA in the second set, won
16 of 16 service points, bro, 

924
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,920
like what a performance. 
Then he goes on and he wins the 

925
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,600
title. 
He beats Mannarino in the final.

926
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,320
FAA man he is. 
He's. 

927
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:41,760
He's on a role, Yeah. 
Yeah, he plays Demon R in the 

928
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,440
final and Rotterdam like 
tomorrow morning. 

929
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,840
So he's like. 
Did he already beat Bublik? 

930
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,240
He did in straight size 1 and 2.
Whoa. 

931
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:52,200
I was like, oh, I'm going to 
watch after this. 

932
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:55,240
OK, wow. 
Wow, I need Felix to make a deep

933
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:57,440
run out of Major. 
But yeah, he's he's been killing

934
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,040
it. 
He finds his groove in these 

935
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,840
kind of like lower level events.
I tell you, man, it's the five 

936
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,680
hundreds. 
I love a 500. 

937
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,280
You get all these narratives and
you get all these people and 

938
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,360
like, I like, I'm excited for 
that final tomorrow. 

939
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,000
I mean, the what? 
And I don't know who's going to 

940
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,040
win. 
I mean, but that is scary that 

941
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,680
Felix beat Booblick one and two 
because Booblick serve. 

942
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,560
Booblick must have just had one 
of his ridiculous mental farts 

943
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,720
where he's like, I don't care 
anymore. 

944
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:27,640
Fuck it. 
We had some chaotic moments in 

945
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:33,000
the Middle East with the women, 
really exciting semis and both 

946
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,160
Abu Dhabi and Doha. 
Abu Dhabi again, another perfect

947
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,240
500 level tournament. 
We've got people getting the 

948
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:44,640
spot like Haley Baptiste, 
Alexandrova, Clara Towson, all 

949
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,840
in the semis. 
But then we got a surprise 

950
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,840
winner of a Next Gen. 
Czech Gurley, Sarah Balick. 

951
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:57,080
I think it's how you say it. 
She is a young up and Comer. 

952
00:48:57,240 --> 00:48:59,520
She's only 5 foot two. 
She wins the whole tournament. 

953
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,400
I really want to see her play 
against Jasmine Palini. 

954
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,720
I feel like that would just be 
like a a fun match, but in pure 

955
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:08,200
Czech faction. 
She's already walking around 

956
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,200
with a knee brace on because 
those Czech girlies are just 

957
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:16,840
they're they're brittle bone 
baby bird arms and legs. 

958
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,400
It's just something's always 
wrong. 

959
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,080
But then we have Doha, where 
Mukova said hold my brace. 

960
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,560
And she goes on and wins her 
first thousand level tournament,

961
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,520
her only second tour level 
title, taking on in Boko. 

962
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,080
And again, we said it a little 
bit, what I loved watching 

963
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,680
Imboko and Mukova play really 
high quality first set. 

964
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,000
I love both of their games so 
much. 

965
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,240
They both have style, they have 
flair. 

966
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,800
They were there. 
They became the nanny, whatever 

967
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,840
that song is. 
They really had like some 

968
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,280
players I watch and I'm not 
going to pile on who I always 

969
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,480
pile on, but some players I 
watch who are a little less 

970
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,320
consistent and it's like, who's 
going to show up today? 

971
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,800
But with both Vicki and 
Carolina, Carolina, I'm like, I,

972
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,600
I feel confident and I can just 
watch you play your match. 

973
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,120
And I love when I don't have to 
stress about who's going to show

974
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,600
up. 
You know what I mean? 

975
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,840
I feel that way sometimes about 
Coco Golf. 

976
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,880
I wasn't going to say her name, 
but OK. 

977
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,240
Yes, Coco. 
Like I what? 

978
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:21,960
Has happened to Coco lately. 
She's my all time favorite 

979
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,640
player, like all time, and I 
will always be suited for her 

980
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,680
matches. 
But I feel like her game, it can

981
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,120
be one or one way or the other. 
You never know who who's going 

982
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,040
to show up. 
Like she could beat Ego and 

983
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,480
Arena or she could go down to a 
lower ranked player. 

984
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,040
I mean, the depth of the field 
is crazy, but yeah, who knows. 

985
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,120
But it's the thing with Coco, 
it's not a depth thing. 

986
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:54,080
Like she lost to Cochiaretto at 
the first round of Doha. 

987
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,600
Who's like, who's not someone 
who should be beating Coco? 

988
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,880
And yeah, she made it to the 
quarters in Australia and then 

989
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,880
was just trounced by Svitolina. 
Like, it's more, there are just 

990
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,440
days where Coco doesn't show up.
And it's like, I'm getting a 

991
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,840
little kind of, it's like my 
Coco golf ulcer. 

992
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:14,280
But even just thinking about the
US Open last year when her serve

993
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:19,600
was just really on the Fritz and
like, there was that changeover 

994
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,240
where she was like shaking and 
kind of crying, 'cause it was 

995
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:26,880
just so it was I, I, that's the 
time of tennis where I like need

996
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,720
to look away because it's, it's 
hard to watch that I. 

997
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,760
Mean it is because I think you 
under you understand how that 

998
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,440
feels like you want nothing more
than just to be off the court 

999
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,600
like you want the match to be 
over the court feels like hell. 

1000
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,080
You feel like you're trapped in 
this like alternate universe 

1001
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,000
where everything's going wrong 
and you just want to be off the 

1002
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,880
court and not only off the 
court, but like cameras are on 

1003
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,040
you, people are watching you. 
They're watching you at like 

1004
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,880
your most stressed lowest 
moment. 

1005
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,840
I can't imagine. 
Yeah. 

1006
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,120
And like. 
Or the rash where there's 28,000

1007
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:03,400
people. 100% when you're under 
that stress the worst version of

1008
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,000
Of You comes out and I feel like
the worst version of Coco is 

1009
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,520
still better than the best 
version of me. 

1010
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,280
But you hit your breaking point 
at the changeover like and I 

1011
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,440
just feel bad. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1012
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,560
I've got to say, Coco, the grace
that she carries herself with 

1013
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,040
is. 
Yeah, I mean, I am. 

1014
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,600
I'm nearly twice her age, and 
she's more of an adult than I 

1015
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:25,600
ever will be. 
I. 

1016
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,560
Think. 
Yeah, it's amazing. 

1017
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,360
Yeah, one more quick shout out, 
though. 

1018
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,240
Just a 40, love. 
So we've got some aging icons 

1019
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:37,800
continuing to make news. 
Stan the man is just on the best

1020
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,400
farewell tour ever. 
He's back into the top 100 as a 

1021
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,760
40 year old. 
Disgusting 40 with that epic 

1022
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,080
backhand that is just a 
highlight reel. 

1023
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,560
If I could date one thing in the
tennis world, it would be Stan 

1024
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,360
Vaverinka's backhand. 
Damn, he's so strong and I feel 

1025
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,640
like he's like he's like a tank.
It's crazy. 

1026
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,480
And just the wind up, like I'm 
sorry, it makes everyone else's 

1027
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,960
one handed backhand look like 
just a turd. 

1028
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,600
I love it, I love it. 
Also, I don't know if you saw 

1029
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,520
Serena on the Today show, but 
she's getting less and less 

1030
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,080
convincing that she's not coming
back. 

1031
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,200
She. 
Was they were like, so you did 

1032
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,160
this thing and she's like, I'm 
not talking about that. 

1033
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,880
And it's like. 
I know. 

1034
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:26,120
Serena's coming back. 
She is, and you know, they were 

1035
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,240
saying the first tournament 
she's eligible for is Austin, 

1036
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,400
and Venus has entered into 
Austin in the double S. 

1037
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:37,040
Can you imagine? 
I mean, flights to Austin are 

1038
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,360
about to get booked. 
Maybe we're going to Texas. 

1039
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,280
I I don't know if she is coming 
back. 

1040
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,440
I think that's going to be like 
a big, huge announcement, like a

1041
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,800
Vogue release or something 
announcing her comeback. 

1042
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,400
Yeah. 
But yeah, it's hard. 

1043
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,200
I mean, when you're the biggest 
athlete, like one of the biggest

1044
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,400
athletes on the planet, it's 
hard to keep it a secret, 

1045
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,720
especially when you have these 
tennis journalists who know 

1046
00:53:57,720 --> 00:54:00,440
everything about the sport, so. 
Well, have you heard anything? 

1047
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,520
I have the Tennis Channel. 
I have not heard anything truly.

1048
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,880
What you've heard in the media 
is what we've heard and. 

1049
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,520
Blink twice if she's coming 
back. 

1050
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,280
Well, I don't know. 
I really can't. 

1051
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,560
I wish. 
But I feel like if she's coming 

1052
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,040
back, she's probably going to 
Vogue. 

1053
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,960
She's going global with this 
release, not an American outlet.

1054
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,960
It's going to, it's going to 
stop the presses. 

1055
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:29,160
Absolutely. 
Yeah. 

1056
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:33,160
Yeah. 
And also slightly less large 

1057
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,640
news for people over 40, But 
Lana Kazanetsava is now saying 

1058
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,240
she might come back. 
That's wild. 

1059
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,160
I did not hear. 
I mean, I heard that in your 

1060
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,400
name. 
Yeah, she just, she posted. 

1061
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,040
She's like, well, maybe I'll 
come back and I don't know how 

1062
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,800
serious she is, but I loved her 
game and she was a character and

1063
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,280
the crazy tattoos and her. 2 new
major champion. 

1064
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,360
Yeah, yeah. 
Who did not get elected to the 

1065
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,880
Hall of Fame, which I found 
offensive. 

1066
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,480
Yeah. 
Come on, she's she's a no 

1067
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,600
brainer, but. 
She did won one of her majors on

1068
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,800
a double fault thanks to Nara 
Safina, right? 

1069
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,920
Was it her? 
Was that a double fall? 

1070
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,200
I don't remember if I don't 
remember the match point, but 

1071
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,080
wow. 2009 I don't know. 
The US Open, Yeah. 

1072
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,240
She won the French in the US, 
Yeah. 

1073
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,440
Yeah, 2 game, major champion. 
Yeah, Spetti. 

1074
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,000
Well, folks, we're about to wrap
up. 

1075
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,000
We've got a new Bay TP Head on 
over to Instagram to see that 

1076
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,000
Bay TP again. 
It's not just who's hot, it is 

1077
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,680
who is hot and playing well 
because it's hot to be a winner,

1078
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,160
baby. 
We are going to wrap up though 

1079
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,800
with one more game, Charles. 
And it's called It's a Match. 

1080
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,360
So it's kind of like some of 
those things that maybe you've 

1081
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,040
seen on TikTok or Instagram 
where it's a blind ranking and I

1082
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,560
have 6 names for you. 
And you have to decide do you 

1083
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,520
want to play against them, play 
double S with them or date them.

1084
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:56,160
And it's 2 per category. 
So choose wisely. 

1085
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,720
So the first one, although he 
did just shit the bed. 

1086
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,280
Sasha Bublick. 
Oh, I'd like to play double S 

1087
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,880
with him. 
Play double S with him. 

1088
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,320
Yeah, he'd be a fun double S 
partner. 

1089
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Yeah, I actually, that's a great
call. 

1090
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:20,840
Yeah, Tommy Paul. 
He's the heartthrob of the ATP 

1091
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,640
and he would be fun to date. 
I feel like he'd take you 

1092
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,600
fishing. 
Oh yeah, I'm going to take him 

1093
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,120
catfishing. 
Well, just as a as a reminder, 

1094
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,840
everybody, that is my husband. 
I took his last name, He took my

1095
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,640
first name. 
We are the Paul Pauls. 

1096
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,720
But I will. 
Allow it, Paul. 

1097
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,560
Yes. 
Oh my God, that's great. 

1098
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:44,120
OK, Felix, OJ, Al Yassim. 
I would like to play against him

1099
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,040
because he's he's nice enough to
give me a few free games. 

1100
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,240
Oh. 
Cute. 

1101
00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:51,480
He's so nice. 
He is a sweetie. 

1102
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,200
Carlos Alkhorov. 
Dating here, would it be fun? 

1103
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,480
Yeah. 
Dating OK, two more Lorenzo 

1104
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,600
Moussetti. 
Oh my gosh. 

1105
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,360
It's either double s or playing 
against. 

1106
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,680
I would play double s with him. 
OK, Yeah. 

1107
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,840
You'll you might be happy with 
this last one, Adrian Mannarino.

1108
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,520
The lowest string tension on the
tour? 

1109
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,480
Yeah. 
Play against Andrian Mannarino. 

1110
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,480
Great. 
Although I feel like he, I feel 

1111
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,240
like he would be the one that we
both have the best chance of 

1112
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,560
getting any games off of, but 
also the most frustrating to 

1113
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,840
play. 
His game is insane. 

1114
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,280
It would test my limits for 
sure. 

1115
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,640
I'd be. 
I'd be crashing out on the 

1116
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,960
changeover, yeah. 
Yeah, I would be Coco in the on 

1117
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,680
the Jumbotron crying in my 
towel. 

1118
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:44,520
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1119
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,920
OK, well, well played. 
I'm very happy for you and 

1120
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,080
Tommy, Paul and Carlos Alkarav. 
Thank you. 

1121
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,120
We're very happy. 
Oh, already? 

1122
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:01,120
Well, look, that was that was, 
it's a match and that's our 

1123
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,840
show, everybody. 
Charles, thank you so much for 

1124
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,040
coming on the show. 
Did you have fun? 

1125
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,040
I had a great time. 
This was really fun. 

1126
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,040
Thank you for having me. 
It's everything I expected and 

1127
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,880
more from the Ball Boys podcast.
Amazing. 

1128
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,560
Well you are officially a ball 
boy and I will be asking you 

1129
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,880
back because it was so great to 
have you on and I feel like we 

1130
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,320
just scratched the surface. 
Will you come back? 

1131
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,200
Yes. 
Second date, everybody. 

1132
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,440
It's a match. 
Oh my God. 

1133
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,360
Amazing. 
Well, we are going to be back in

1134
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,960
a few weeks with a new show as 
the tours start coming back to 

1135
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,760
the States for the Sunshine 
Double. 

1136
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,640
And on the next show, we've got 
another case of new balls 

1137
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,280
please, where I'm going to be 
joined by the author of the new 

1138
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:47,520
queer tennis romance 30 Love. 
Tom Velner is going to be my 

1139
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,040
guest on the show. 
I'm very excited for that. 

1140
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,080
He's got a big shoes to fill 
after Charles though, so we'll 

1141
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,760
see. 
Until then, I am sending 

1142
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,520
everyone a big ball of love on 
Valentine's Day. 

1143
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,640
I love you all. 
Bye y'all.

