1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,760 It's time for let's get some ground strokes, baseline, get 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:10,720 some top spin that's LGBT. Have a listen. 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,000 Make some noise with the ball boys. 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,520 Hey everybody, and welcome to the latest episode of The Ball 5 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,960 Boys. We are the tennis podcast that 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,960 puts the meddling in Mediterranean. 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,880 I'm your host, Paul Monkle. I'm bringing you the insights, 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,600 outbursts, giggles and wiggles of the ATP and WTA tours. 9 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:38,160 And welcome to clay season, everyone. 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,560 Things are getting messy and dirty and caked up. 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,840 And that's just the action off the court. 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,480 Maybe it's because we're in that oh so slight lull that happens 13 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:51,080 in the tours just after the Sunshine Double. 14 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:54,440 But the players are feeling that time by opening up the rumor 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,040 mill. Did so and so break up? 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,320 Who called who ugly and who stole whose coach? 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:08,200 The drama starring Zendaya. Anyway, all this gossip fits 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,960 perfectly into the clay season. The shoes are muddy and the mud 19 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:14,880 is slinging. The balls are flying about as 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,560 fast as the rumors and serves are breaking about as often as 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,240 the news is about the latest breakups or scandals. 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,400 So today we are dishing the dirt. 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,480 But we are not dissing the dirt Ballers. 24 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,840 Because I, for one, love the clay. 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,600 We got a little taste of the clay mates earlier in the season 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,360 down in South America, but now things are in full swing. 27 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:39,840 And since the last show, it's been nothing but clay all day. 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,440 But it's also sort of in the US versus the world, not just 29 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,920 politically, but also because we had our two clay tournaments in 30 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,520 the US with a couple of Americans taking home the 31 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,440 titles, and then literally everyone else turned their 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,640 attention to Europe, highlighted by the Masters 1000 in Monte 33 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,600 Carlo. I said it last year and I will 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,840 say it again, this is my tennis paradise. 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,360 It is so romantic, historic, sexy. 36 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,000 I want to live at the club in Monte Carlo or even in the 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,720 grotto underneath it. And so today we are rolling 38 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,440 around in the dirt and talking all the Goss hips and the top 39 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,720 hits from the last two weeks. We have a brand spanking noob 40 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,320 ATP featuring this tournament's Arthur Fees. 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,840 Heading over to our Instagram and see those full rankings and 42 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,440 let us know who we missed and also listeners, if you or anyone 43 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,880 you know is gay for football or basketball or any other sport 44 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,360 and you want to be involved in the next ball boys series, let 45 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,960 us know. Heading over to our Instagram, 46 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:45,880 that's at TBB tennis. Again, that's at TBB. 47 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,680 The letters as in the ball boys tennis at TBB tennis because we 48 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,040 are growing and we are for anyone who is gay for any sport. 49 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,240 So with all that said, to get through everything, I've got a 50 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,480 brand spanking new ball boy with me today. 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,920 Just in time for a Houston recap, we have a cowboy from the 52 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:12,000 Lone Star State. He's a full time publicist as 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,600 well as a writer for local LGBTQ plus institutions like Outsmart 54 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,920 Magazine and My Gay Houston, and an avid tennis player and member 55 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:23,960 of Houston's gay tennis league, the Houston Tennis Club. 56 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,160 He's the birthday, he's the baddie. 57 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:33,000 It's Zach McKenzie. Oh my God, hello I'm so excited. 58 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,160 Hi Zach, I am so excited to have you here. 59 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,000 You know, we've been talking for a little while now and I've been 60 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,800 wanting to get you on the show forever. 61 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,320 You are a fellow Scorpio. I still think we need to do a 62 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,760 spooky episode together just cause it's in our blood. 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,800 I think so too and I have a friend who does astrology 64 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,640 readings who really keeps me in check so I think that she could 65 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,800 give us some pre show topics to talk and insights. 66 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,680 Well, OK, side note, not to like tip my cards, but I do believe 67 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,240 that there is like a tennis astrology connection where it's 68 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,880 like you play like such a Scorpio, oh your service, such a 69 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,240 Capricorn. I don't know what it is yet 70 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,960 'cause I don't really know much about the astrology, but there's 71 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,880 something. OK. 72 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,080 You were talking about doing like a coffee table book in the 73 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,839 last episode I think, and that could be a chapter at least. 74 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:22,400 I mean, we got a lot of projects and products we got to get out 75 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,680 there, folks. I need an intern, I need a crew. 76 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,040 But yeah, I'm very excited to have you on here. 77 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,480 So you're a writer as well as a publicist. 78 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,200 I don't really know what a publicist does, so I'm going to 79 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,840 ignore that. But as a writer, what kind of 80 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:43,360 things do you write about? Yeah, so I started writing back 81 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,080 in 2018, I think, and it was right around the year that I was 82 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,680 coming out of the closet, honestly. 83 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,080 And, or maybe I was, it was a few years before that I was 84 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,280 writing for another magazine. And then I parlayed that work 85 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:55,520 into writing for Outsmart. And it's been really cool 86 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,760 because I like I interview local Houstonians in the LGBTQ plus 87 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,280 community and it's Houston is huge. 88 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,160 We're the 4th largest city in the nation and the most diverse. 89 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,080 So it's really cool to be able to interview and tell the 90 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:14,440 stories of business owners, chefs, actors, singers, 91 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,200 performers around town. Drag Queens. 92 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,560 Like throw a Rock. I've probably interviewed that 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:19,560 drag queen, you know what I mean? 94 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,560 Like it's been so not. A rock. 95 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,360 Well, OK, go to the fall or a brick. 96 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,320 Yeah, Oh my God. And so, yeah, it's been really 97 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,200 cool. And within that, I've been able 98 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,880 to use that portfolio of interviewing local Houstonians 99 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,360 to interview celebrities. So I've gotten to interview like 100 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,360 Isaac Bizraki and Chelsea Handler and Orville Peck, you 101 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,440 know, so it's been really cool and writing for My Gay Houston, 102 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:49,440 it's kind of a guide to just show people outside of Houston 103 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,600 that we're a welcoming city. We have an amazing neighborhood. 104 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:59,080 We have affirming spaces and perfect like restaurants to go 105 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,960 to. I manage the social media as 106 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,720 well. And we have a drag queen named 107 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,240 Queen Persephone who we send out on these different assignments 108 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,480 to go and try out restaurants. And she's in full drag, you 109 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:14,520 know, and so she's going into these spaces in wig, makeup, 110 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,200 dress, and nobody cares, you know what I mean? 111 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,600 And if they care, it's because they want a picture with her or 112 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,280 something, you know? So it's it's been a really cool 113 00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:26,520 way to share the story of Houston with readers and 114 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,040 visitors from outside of the city, but as well as sharing 115 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,120 stories of Houstonians within the city for people who may not 116 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,280 know who they are. Oh, that's so great. 117 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,440 I mean, I guess I am embarrassed to admit I've never been to 118 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,000 Houston. In fact, I lived in New York for 119 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,760 so long I keep almost calling it Houston. 120 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,760 But it's Houston. Right. 121 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,960 Well, and The thing is, is like in Texas, and I'm not going to 122 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,280 be one of these people that craps on other cities, I went to 123 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,200 UT in Austin and I lived there for five years. 124 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,400 And whenever I moved to Houston, it was an immediate culture 125 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,000 shock because it was huge, sprawling. 126 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,320 There's so many different skylines versus Austin's one. 127 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,680 You know, it's the way I've always described it is that 128 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,000 Austin's kind of the younger brother who tells you why it's 129 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,440 so cool. And then Houston's kind of the 130 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,400 cooler older sister who's like, smoking a cigarette in the 131 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:17,640 corner. And she's like, I'm cool too, 132 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:18,680 but I'm not going to tell you why. 133 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,480 You know, Like, you're going to come and you're going to figure 134 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,480 out which part of the city you like, what food you like. 135 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,280 It's I love Houston. I've fallen in love with it. 136 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:31,840 I've been here since 2014. OK, OK, I, I've been to Dallas 137 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,680 then, you know, I guess we won't name her, but I actually did. 138 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,560 I did a I so I'm in, I'm a market researcher. 139 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,520 I work in marketing and I do ethnographies and all that. 140 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,000 And so I went to Dallas to learn about the gay scene there. 141 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,160 And like the biggest take away I had was the phrase dalitude, 142 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,440 which is the attitude that the gay people in Dallas have. 143 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,920 Or maybe even just it's just like the overarching like, yeah, 144 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,200 you've got Dalitude, which is like, wow, that's. 145 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,480 I I've lived in Texas my whole life. 146 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:58,640 That's my first time hearing that. 147 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,280 Oh, really? Yeah. 148 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,280 Oh, wow. Oh well. 149 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,840 Well, you're welcome. We need one in Houston. 150 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,680 I guess we'll have to figure that one out too. 151 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,440 Yeah, before we get off your writing, you also have a sub 152 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,920 stack, right? Yeah, thanks for mentioning 153 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,880 that. I whenever I found out about Sub 154 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,680 Stack, I was like, you know what, this is basically like 155 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,800 back in the day whenever people had Zangas or like, Oh yeah, 156 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,680 Blogspot, whatever it is, you know. 157 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,120 And so being able to write my own personal essays on that I'm 158 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,760 able to share things that I would share with in my friends 159 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,160 circles or just ideas that I want to get out there and see if 160 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,480 other people relate to them, you know? 161 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,320 And I write one a month and it's totally free. 162 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,640 And I love the act of publishing. 163 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,880 There's a quote and I forget who said it, but nobody likes to 164 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,240 write. It's the being done with writing 165 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,640 and being able to share it with people and seeing the response 166 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,080 has been the cool fart. So yeah, I really enjoy it. 167 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,880 It's been fun. And just so people can find it, 168 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,080 what's the name of it? He's just my under score. 169 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,680 Zach McKenzie Yeah. And I can double check that 170 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,880 because it's funny because, like, I spend so much time on it 171 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,600 that I don't actually look at mine. 172 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,000 Right. Oh, it's just at Zachary 173 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,040 McKenzie, Zach. OK, so folks, don't listen to 174 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,680 him. He was lying about his name a 175 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:17,480 minute ago, but now it's Zachary McKenzie at Zachary McKenzie on 176 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,520 Slipstack. Amazing. 177 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,640 Yeah. Oh, by the way, was everyone in 178 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,880 Houston just like a total maniac about Artemis? 179 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,760 It's so crazy that you say that because, yes, the really, like, 180 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,440 every single person I talked to. And it's funny because, like, 181 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,120 people who I didn't even know were into space, particularly a 182 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,680 lot of my girlfriends that were watching. 183 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:39,880 And specifically whenever that astronaut that wanted to name 184 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:45,000 one of the craters after his late wife, I think, oh, my God, 185 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,880 yeah, that way. That way, double platinum on my 186 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,400 Instagram feed like I that's all anybody was talking about. 187 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,120 I will say it, anything that gives hope core these days, I 188 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,800 think we're latching onto with a death grip because people, like 189 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,560 I said, people who weren't even into it were very into it. 190 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,760 And I'll roll my eyes and stuff that's kind of like popping off 191 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,400 in culture or whatever, but I wasn't going to yuck anybody's 192 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,080 Yum. And it was really inspiring. 193 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,800 It's cool. I'm yeah, I was here for it. 194 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,920 Well, you can leave the yucking of people's Yum to me because 195 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,600 that is kind of my my Forte. I don't even know if I believe 196 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,360 in the moon landing. I'm just kidding. 197 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,000 I love your take of Hope Core, because we're going to need 198 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,520 another planet soon. So let's like, get going. 199 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,840 That Project Hail Mary is closer than we think. 200 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:33,880 So yeah. Well, I'll write our Teslas up 201 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,880 to the to Mars. Oh, how dare you. 202 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:41,520 I will crash into the moon. Let's go a little deeper into 203 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,080 your tennis background with our segment that we call new balls, 204 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,360 please. So we play this with every new 205 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,000 ball boy where I just want to go a little deeper. 206 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,560 I want to probe on just how gay you are for tennis. 207 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:58,680 So, Zach McKenzie, Are you ready for some rapid fire questions? 208 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,480 I'm so ready. All right. 209 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,640 And by the way, well, first question, do you like Zach or 210 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,480 Zachary? I go by Zach but but on sub 211 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,240 stack apparently Zachary. Yeah, apparently. 212 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,280 And when I get mad at you, it's Zachary. 213 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,840 Zachary Banks. A famous nickname from college. 214 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,240 Yeah. Oh, God, I bet. 215 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,120 And have you been in? Have you been in Texas your 216 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,600 whole life? I grew up in a small town an 217 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,440 hour north of Austin. What's the name of the town? 218 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,960 It's called lampasses. What is it? 219 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,440 It's called lampasses. Lampasses. 220 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,720 All right, shout out lampasses. Hey y'all giddy up, OK? 221 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,640 Are you gay TP or WT gay? Do you like the ATP or Women's 222 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,480 store more? Thank you for explaining. 223 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:49,000 I I really I I waffle, but lately it's been very gay. 224 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,360 TP Yeah. I think it's just a because it's 225 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,080 like what's been on my TV lately and Monte Carlo wrapping up and 226 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,400 watching that happen in Houston. It's also just kind of like the 227 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:05,440 real obviously the eye candy, not not horrible, but also just 228 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,120 I just and I know we're going to get into Monte Carlo soon, but 229 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,360 like just a video of Carlos and Yannick, like him recording him 230 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,520 jumping off of the diving board. I talk about hope corps, like 231 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,880 heated rivalry. Sit down. 232 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,320 We've got we've got heated rivalry at home. 233 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,640 So yeah, I've been very gay TP lately. 234 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,640 Yeah, I mean, it's funny. I think that the tour absolutely 235 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,200 has caught on to the very large population that objectifies the 236 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,800 male players. And not just gay men, but also I 237 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,400 talk to women as much as gay men on my Instagram, where it's just 238 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,800 like, did you see Vassaro? I mean, they're just, they're 239 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,000 showing it off. They're like, here is this hot 240 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,960 guy, that hot guy? Well, and to your point on your 241 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,600 last episode talking about Tommy Paul Schwartz being the correct 242 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,160 height, I think there's something, there's a spectrum 243 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,920 happening, yeah, that people bind themselves on whenever 244 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:58,640 they're watching. Yeah. 245 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,160 Exactly, I've been waffling too though because I'm worried about 246 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,960 getting a little bored of Syncraz. 247 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,720 It's like girls, we need, we need 1/3. 248 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,160 It's a little predictable at this point and the heartfelt 249 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,160 speeches that they give to each other at the winner's podium. 250 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,640 I'm just kind of like, y'all are going to have to start getting 251 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,160 creative because we've heard it. Yeah, Oh my God, that would be a 252 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,520 fun game to play. Maybe we'll think about that for 253 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,880 the next time I have you on. But like, we should rewrite 254 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,440 their speeches going forward. What should they what they want 255 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,920 to say? What what they or like the coded 256 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,440 like we'll do like a coded like oh, this like whenever I talk 257 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,680 about your team, I mean you're taint, you know, I. 258 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,680 Was I was literally just thinking team yeah, yeah. 259 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,440 And So what makes you a ball boy? 260 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,080 Like what's your background in tennis? 261 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,840 So you mentioned that I'm part of Houston Tennis Club. 262 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,280 I actually was invited to write an essay about it for our 263 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,880 program for our annual tournament that we host. 264 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,240 And I got to revisit this kind of like part of my life where I, 265 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,320 I was like when what was my origin with tennis? 266 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,600 And I realized it was whenever I was watching back in the day, I 267 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,760 was watching the Nickelodeon kids Choice Awards and Serena 268 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,720 was nominated for like female athlete or just like general 269 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,920 athlete of the year. And growing up in my small 270 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,520 Central Texas town, football is king. 271 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,880 Everybody plays football or a few people stick with 272 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,360 basketball. And, and whenever I say people, 273 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,400 I mean like males, you know. Yeah, straight, straight boys. 274 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,640 Yeah. Yeah, they're, they're brought 275 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,800 up to be like, you're going to play football, you're going to 276 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,080 get your leather jacket, all that. 277 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,000 I always grew up just like not wanting to play football. 278 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,640 I it never interested me. I was always kind of bored by it 279 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,880 and then. So it's scary. 280 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,400 I don't want to get tackled. I, I did not know about 281 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,200 traumatic brain injury at the time, but looking back, I'm 282 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,920 glad. But then I'm watching the 283 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,520 supercut of Serena and I'm just like, who is this? 284 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,520 You know, like she was not in my forefront at that point. 285 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,080 I don't remember if she won or not. 286 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,480 But that moment I on the next commercial break, I went into my 287 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,400 parents living room and I was like, I think I want to try 288 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,720 tennis, you know. And so then the next day I had a 289 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,400 tennis racket and we were out there just like hitting balls. 290 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:14,000 And after that just got into camp, like did summer camp and 291 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,400 it was really easy to get into summer camp because not a lot of 292 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:21,320 people in my town play tennis. And so we from there, it just 293 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,960 like took off and I played in middle school and then in high 294 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,640 school I was varsity for 3 1/2 years and then got really burnt 295 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,240 out. Honestly, like that's kind of 296 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,200 like the thing that I was kind of ashamed to share with people 297 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,400 for a while was that after high school, I just like didn't want 298 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,240 to pick up my racket. In fact, I put it in my closet 299 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,320 and I said, you keep it mom, I'm going to college, never to play 300 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,480 the sport again. But then as I got, I graduated 301 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,880 college and moved to Houston. I came back here and I was like, 302 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,000 I miss it. I went back home, got my racket, 303 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,520 brought it back and the rest is history. 304 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,520 OK. And so maybe related to that, 305 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,680 but I'd like you to now speak for the entire gay community. 306 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,320 Why do gay people, especially gay men, love tennis so much? 307 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,160 I think there's a kind of the surface level reasons and then 308 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,920 there's a little deeper reasons. I, I think that whenever you 309 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,280 think about growing up and you're playing these team 310 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,240 sports, these hyper masculine team sports, which I'm not just, 311 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,240 I'm not homogenizing the gay community. 312 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,400 I know some gay people love football, you know what I mean? 313 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,040 But for me and where I was in my life, I being in those like 314 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,920 really intense, like football locker rooms was just really 315 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,680 intimidating to me and I did not want to be there. 316 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,400 You know, I didn't feel say, if I didn't feel seen, I didn't 317 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,640 feel like I had a space in there and I just felt judged even 318 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,200 though nobody knew I was gay. So then finding out about this 319 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,680 sport, I could be competitive, I could let out aggression and 320 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,880 anger and all the emotions that come along with tennis. 321 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,240 But it's like a one-on-one and it's just me on the court or at 322 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,960 most another person next to me, you know, I think that's the 323 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,920 appealing part is that like we seek these safe spaces as gay 324 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,480 community. And for me, the tennis court was 325 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,520 a safe space whenever I lived in this town. 326 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:07,599 You know, now the more surface level, I think the fashion 327 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:10,839 really draws an eye to the court, you know, on and off 328 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:13,040 court. And the men and the women. 329 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,440 Oh, 100%. And yeah, I mean, it's so easy 330 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,680 to point to Serena and Venus for what they've done and now like 331 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:23,560 Naomi and etcetera, but seeing the men coming out in their full 332 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,800 on suits, like track suits or whatever, then they're dead to 333 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:27,680 them, you know? But then also like the 334 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:30,640 specifically thinking about singles, I took step back and I 335 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,200 was like, this is basically a lip sync for your life. 336 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,680 Like it's one versus 1. You get to choose your favorite, 337 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,440 whether you're picking because of stats or looks or whatever. 338 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,040 You know, it's kind of like that intensity and the drama of it. 339 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,640 And just like the tennis is a dramatic sport, and I think it 340 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,680 pulls like theater Queens. It pulls like people who just 341 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,360 love. It's like for people who love 342 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:56,040 bitchiness, we've got those players. 343 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,960 For people who love like show offs, we've got that. 344 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,760 For just like jocks, we've got jocks. 345 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,160 I mean, it's really like the cool thing about tennis, just 346 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,360 building off that it's like any one of those can win. 347 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,640 You. Know like we've had errors where 348 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,640 it's like the diva wins, we've had errors where the grinder 349 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,320 wins. You know, it's like the Justine 350 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,040 Ennons versus the Sharapova. There's different personalities, 351 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:15,920 so. Yeah. 352 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,560 And again, I don't mean to generalize. 353 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,760 I'm just saying like kind of stereotypically, those are 354 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:20,960 things. That's what. 355 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,000 We do here. Yeah, you're not you're not 356 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,160 recording yet, are you? No. 357 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,080 But all that to say, I think that to your point, there's a 358 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,560 little bit of something for every type of gay stereotype out 359 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,120 there. But I think for players in 360 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,240 particular playing tennis, where I grew up, it was kind of seen 361 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,960 as like, you're doing what, you know? 362 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,360 Like I thought, girl, I thought girls played tennis, you know 363 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:45,880 what I mean? It was just like, now I'm 364 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,760 painting an even bigger target on my back, you know? 365 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,080 But I didn't care 'cause I loved it. 366 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:50,320 Interesting. Yeah. 367 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,080 So listeners, I'm curious, like, what kind of tennis gay are you? 368 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,360 Are you the the theater tennis gay? 369 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:57,080 Are you the kind of bitch you on? 370 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:03,720 I know which one I am 'cause I'm a bitch but OK, so speed. 371 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,280 Round I will be fast, I promise. No, no, I mean, you know, I'll 372 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,040 just cut it all out, Yannick or Carlos. 373 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:18,600 Carlos I think just for me, more fun to watch, funnier just in 374 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,280 personality. I never skip a Carlos video. 375 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,480 I know why. Well, yeah, he's always 376 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,200 stretching or just doing something, but. 377 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,080 Yeah, yeah. And also, sometimes he looks a 378 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,200 little lost out there, even though he's not, and it's just 379 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,160 fun to watch. I don't know him doing the 380 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,320 little :) on the camera, like using every single brain cell he 381 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,240 has to make that happen. You think of that? 382 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,960 Yeah. So fun, love him. 383 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,200 Coco or Arena? This was tough. 384 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,160 I'm going to go Coco. Why? 385 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,680 American girlie. She deals with a lot. 386 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,760 Like maybe I'm the theater gay, tennis gay. 387 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,440 Because as much as Arena is very dramatic on the court, Coco 388 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:00,200 deals with so much this week in particular, like he deals with 389 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,880 so much crap for being a person of color in this sport, a woman 390 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,920 of color in this sport that I just love how she handles 391 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,880 herself in press conferences and on social media. 392 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,040 And yeah, she's a fabulous person for people to look up to, 393 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,800 men and women. Oh, she is my role model for how 394 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:22,000 to handle things with grace. I I get cut off in traffic and I 395 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,720 lose it. OK, who is your ATP crush? 396 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:30,960 OK, it's a tie. It's either Mateo Baronzini or 397 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,840 Lorenzo Mazzetti. OK, so he likes Italians, he has 398 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,400 a straight sensibility. OK, I have those are both great 399 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,320 picks. Classic. 400 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,560 I mean Lorenzo Lucetti talk when you talk about fashion earlier, 401 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,880 I couldn't help but think about his like Pope kit last year 402 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,560 where it was like white and flowy, the APC sleeveless. 403 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,040 I mean, he made the entire world horny so. 404 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,200 Yeah, I also just like, love following these guys on social 405 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,240 media because they're having fun. 406 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,120 Like a lot of them are having a lot of fun. 407 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:02,600 You know, like Mark I, he didn't make my list. 408 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,840 But Marcos. You're on. 409 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:07,280 You're on. Yeah, He's where? 410 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,120 You follow heavy heavy recommend that follow. 411 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:14,120 And he knows what he's doing, he knows his assets and he's 412 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:15,480 putting them out there for us. So. 413 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,400 And his leg sets. Yeah, and his thigh sets. 414 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,920 Thank you, Marcos. Come on, the pod. 415 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Who is your WTA crush? WTA Oh, so I all roads lead back 416 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,680 to the tennis league on part of, I'm going to say Madison Keys. 417 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,760 Her Kindness Winds Foundation donated $1000 to our tournament 418 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,880 a couple years ago and that just makes me really keen on her, you 419 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,840 know? Yeah. 420 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,280 Yeah, that's a good. I enjoy watching her. 421 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,640 I love her personality. I mean her, her win last year at 422 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,080 the Australian Open was my favorite, I think tournament win 423 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,160 for on the women's side. OK, this next question, I don't 424 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,800 even know if the microphones are going to pick it up, but we're 425 00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:01,200 going to try. Are you Ole Ole, Ole, Ole, Ole 426 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:11,040 Ole or are you Ole the performer? 427 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,640 The former is the first one, yes. 428 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,120 The first one, yes, yes, OK. Because we are in the clay 429 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:21,640 season and especially in France, everybody and Monte Carlo is 430 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,400 right next to France, in case you didn't know. 431 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,480 I don't really know where anything is, but the the cheers 432 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,240 and the chants are back. And it is one of my lesser 433 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,040 favorite things that the crowd does because they don't do it 434 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,240 once, especially the the latter one up, up, up, up, up, up, up, 435 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,080 up, up. They do it non-stop during the 436 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,640 changeovers. And I'm like, guys, just chill 437 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,440 out. I was in New York and we watched 438 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,120 the French Open finals last year at a, at a tennis themed bar. 439 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,800 I I think it's called, I have a coaster for it somewhere, but I 440 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,880 think it's called like Dirty Love and fully tennis themed. 441 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,960 Yeah, it's amazing. And two stories, amazing food, 442 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,240 amazing drinks. The bartender was really cool. 443 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,200 We talked tennis and they had screens up and it was the 444 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,160 coolest thing watching the finals, the men's finals and 445 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,960 like the guy sitting next to us, we're sitting in the Ole, Ole 446 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,160 Ole and people from the street were like stopping and like 447 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,680 sticking their heads in to watch with. 448 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,320 It was the coolest afternoon like of watching tennis I've 449 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,400 ever had. I loved it that. 450 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,000 Sounds amazing. That sounds cool. 451 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,040 I'm going to be in New York for the open, but with ticket prices 452 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,840 the way they are, I don't know forward to go into it, but I'll 453 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,240 go to that bar. You should. 454 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:37,840 It's it's great. I want to hear a little bit more 455 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,600 about Houston and the gay tennis scene in Houston. 456 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,400 So you're a member of, it's just called the Houston Tennis Club. 457 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,000 Tell me about that club. How long you been part of it? 458 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,240 Are you the best player in Houston? 459 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,960 No Oh my God, I literally oh God that just sent a chill. 460 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,480 That's why I. Figured that no one can Fact 461 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,080 Check it. You can say it right now and 462 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,840 everything. They will Fact Check it. 463 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,680 We have it is the coolest group of guys. 464 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,960 So it's it's an inclusive group, but it's LGBTQ focused. 465 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,360 We have a few folks in there that are allies, but for the 466 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:13,240 most part it's gay male presenting guys. 467 00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:16,840 And it's just the best. We meet on three days a week and 468 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,800 we have courts all around the city, but we stick to two main 469 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,040 ones. And it's like guys that have 470 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,600 been there since I first started going back in 2016 probably. 471 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,280 And it's the coolest snapshot of the Houston tennis scene. 472 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,920 We have guys that play in open, We have guys that play in D, you 473 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,800 know, D level and they're just like having a blast out there, 474 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,360 getting better, getting competitive. 475 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:43,840 And then we host our own annual GLTA tournament called the 476 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,360 Sutex. And it's people from all across 477 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:49,720 the country come in, It's a weekend long tournament and we 478 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,760 have a banquet. Last year they had silky nutmeg 479 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,720 ganache from RuPaul's Drag Race performed. 480 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,360 But yeah, so we go all out. That tournament is in in 481 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:00,800 November. Typically, yeah. 482 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:02,440 OK, cool. Yeah. 483 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,680 You should and like it's so fun and like you start to see the 484 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:12,040 same people coming every year to compete and like some they get 485 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,360 better. They're playing with different 486 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,960 double S partners and the like drama just like boils out. 487 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,000 Yeah, that's. Great, now OK, like any gay 488 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,160 club? Like do people just end up 489 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,280 sleeping together? I love that you asked that 490 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:27,120 because I don't know. Oh, come on, You know, you know 491 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:29,040 the T Come on. There's a couple guys in there 492 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,400 that have gotten together that met through the club and they're 493 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,400 in actual relationships, you know what I mean? 494 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,680 And like, oh, yeah, yeah. And this is a group that like 495 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,640 comes together and we Kiki, you know, like we are. 496 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,400 It is sisters vibes, you know, and it's it's all different 497 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,600 ages. This is what I was kind of 498 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,160 saying about it being a good snapshot of Houston in general, 499 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:51,680 but also the Houston tennis scene in that diversity in age, 500 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,200 race, and everybody has such like, different jobs and it's 501 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,560 like people that you would never meet otherwise you'd see weekly, 502 00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,720 you know? And it's the coolest. 503 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,440 So there might be. I'm not pretty to it. 504 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,360 OK, yeah, well, I want you to find out and let us all know. 505 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,000 I want to know all the secrets. You have to come to Hutex and 506 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,320 find out. You know what? 507 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,080 I'm girls. Daddy's coming. 508 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,160 Well, let's stay in Houston a little bit longer because we 509 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,320 just had the US clay championships. 510 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,480 At first I was a little alarmed because the clay in Texas has 511 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,760 been turned more red than it used to be. 512 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,000 Listen, people, we've got to stop turning things red in this 513 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,600 country. If anything in Texas got to turn 514 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,520 a purple, blue even. But it it did also look really 515 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,680 good because I got to say like the red matched the red in 516 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,200 Europe. And I was like, OK, they're 517 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,840 they're at least it's weird. American clay tennis in a is in 518 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,040 a really weird state because literally these two tournaments, 519 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,960 Charleston and Houston, half the field as Americans and there's 520 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,480 some Argentinians and all that involved. 521 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,720 But then everyone else is over in Europe. 522 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,800 None of the Americans went over to play Monte Carlo after 523 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,320 Houston. Not a single one. 524 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,600 You know, the only American in Monte Carlo was Ethan Quinn, God 525 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,080 bless his heart. But it's like weird. 526 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,120 It's like we're like we're like now we suck at clay. 527 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:09,120 We're just going to play in America, but you know, it was 528 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,240 kind of fun to see. So Tommy Paul wins. 529 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,640 So fun. You know, we love that. 530 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,680 Let's stay on Tommy a little bit longer. 531 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,480 This was his first clay title, so he's now got a title on all 532 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,760 three surfaces. I mean, look, Tommy Paul, I mean 533 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,120 that, not that you asked, but that is my tennis crush, which 534 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:30,040 is embarrassing at this point because like every 14 year old 535 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,480 girl will say Tommy Paul, but you know, we're doubt the parts 536 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,360 we're doubt having. Having gone to this tournament, 537 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:40,120 I it's funny the the energy shift of all the women whenever 538 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,960 he walks out that they straighten up because they want 539 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,520 to see him. It's pretty intense. 540 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,880 Oh, I bet. Well, and like people were 541 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:52,840 dressed in those stands. It is not the casual athleisure 542 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,560 Lululemon attire. Like people were dressed to 543 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,400 watch tennis, which I thought was kind of a nice change of 544 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,440 pace. Well, and it's in, it takes 545 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,720 place at a Country Club here, so there is an expectation of 546 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,760 decorum. So you've been tell me about it. 547 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,240 Like, how's the food? What's the vibe? 548 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,400 The vibes are great. I went last year my friends 549 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,320 family happens to donate through some certain channel to be able 550 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,240 to get a box seat for a certain time period yeah so I got to go 551 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,480 to the Lexus like VIP lounge, which was amazing and it was 552 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,880 very chic and yeah the food was amazing. 553 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,200 I was just looking through old pictures today to refresh my 554 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:39,400 memory and like open bar salmon tacos, pulled pork sandwiches 555 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,320 and. I remember your photos and I was 556 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,520 like drooling. Look, I was like, you messaged 557 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,560 me immediately and you're like, is this what they're serving? 558 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:51,080 I said in the VIP lounge. But all that to say is the 559 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,040 people who like the ticket holders that aren't VIP, which 560 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,360 is where I typically belong, they also have amazing options 561 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,960 on the grounds because there's a good company. 562 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,360 BBQ is set up out there in the tent and it's amazing BBQ. 563 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,480 You know you can't go wrong. Well, and I feel like Houston is 564 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,640 not going to fuck around with food. 565 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,600 Like it's going to be good food. One thing about Houston is we, 566 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,600 like you, go anywhere else in Texas, it pales in comparison to 567 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,680 Houston when it comes to food, trust. 568 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,600 There's that dalatude. OK, no, it does look great. 569 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,440 And and also I love A250I mean all of these tournaments, at 570 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,840 least in the States and you know, ticket pricing is crazy in 571 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,600 the States and it's it's even bleeding over to like Australia 572 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,400 had the most expensive tickets ever in the final this year. 573 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,200 It's like it's just the prices are getting crazy. 574 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,240 But these smaller more intimate events like I would love to have 575 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,800 seen that semi final between Tiafo and Tommy Paul. 576 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,560 Like I mean granted it poured so it was like a deluge this year. 577 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,840 And poor Francis Tiafo, he got 2 horrendous bounces post 578 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,720 rainstorm that like basically lost in the third set and like 579 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,400 that was rough because he was he could have won the title easily 580 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,200 but. Yeah, I mean, we were watching 581 00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,720 in. So I was actually at another 582 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,560 GLTA tournament in Austin with some of the guys from the Tennis 583 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,640 Club and we happened to catch that game and it was, it was a 584 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,120 pretty dismal feeling. Watching, yeah, yeah, poor 585 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,600 Thiafo. But I'm very happy Thiafo's back 586 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,600 in, in the conversation 'cause he went away for a minute. 587 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,520 So. But we did have Tommy Paul win 588 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,120 against Burachaga. I don't know if I'm saying that 589 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,560 right. Roman Burachaga, what a story of 590 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,240 him. He'd won a challenger down in 591 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,600 South America and flew like a red eye overnight and then makes 592 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,720 it all into the final. And like the Argentinians, like 593 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,000 last weekend, there were 3 or 4 finals and the Argentinians were 594 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,840 either in the finals or winning the tournament or you know, it's 595 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,760 like they're, they know what they're doing down there. 596 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,640 So God bless. Well, whoever is doing the 597 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,480 social media stuff for this tournament is really doing a 598 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,080 great job because they're the challenges that they're having 599 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,800 them do like on camera or whatever. 600 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,360 And then like taking them around the city, like being able to see 601 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,920 Tommy Paul go and buy some a pair of boots in the Heights, 602 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,040 which is a neighborhood here. Just cool to see them like out 603 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,280 and about in the city, you know what I mean? 604 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,360 Like they're not just like holed up at their hotel or like 605 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,000 training non-stop. They're having fun. 606 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,800 And not to make any assumptions about your mobile activities, 607 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,120 but how's Grinder there at that tournament? 608 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:20,480 OK so I hate to disappoint, wasn't on it, but I know plenty 609 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,200 of gay guys that go to the tournament. 610 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,960 The vibes are great. It's a lot of the Country Club 611 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,920 scene, you know, but there are plenty of games that go, a lot 612 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,200 of guys from our club that actually got tickets to go this 613 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,840 year. Well, cuz every time I go to any 614 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,480 tennis tournament or tennis event of any kind, like you turn 615 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,360 on grinder and it's just a grid of tennis balls. 616 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,560 You know like that the screen name of the tennis ball. 617 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,400 We build community where we can and you know, I do my most viral 618 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,520 marketing there so well. Wrapping up the US clay swing. 619 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,760 So we also had Charleston where Jessica Palula, she defended her 620 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,560 title shout out to her. I love JPEG right now. 621 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,600 She's the most consistent player on the women's tour. 622 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,080 Great personality. I think she's so cool and 623 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,320 Charleston is another one. The courts look that stadium is 624 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,520 gorgeous and I do love that it actually isn't the red clay. 625 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,360 It's like the only like blue clay or Gray clay. 626 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,360 It's a different color and it's it's sexy, but we're going to 627 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,120 move on and we're going to start talking about the European swing 628 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,720 and just what's been going on. We got to start with our lobs 629 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,520 being though. I know, I know, we're like 30 630 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,200 minutes into this show, but we're going to start with our 631 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,120 lobs beings. I know I was like, I was like I. 632 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,760 Yeah, yeah, I know. Oh honey. 633 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,000 So again, a lobs being is anything that made us gayer for 634 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,720 tennis since the last show. And the only correct answer and 635 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,520 usually we have many lobstians and like look, it's not hard to 636 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,400 find one. Like 1 lobstian could have been 637 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,880 Yelena Ostapenko yelling at a fan because that's just like I 638 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,880 just love that. I love that for her and for us. 639 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,120 But the only correct answer this time around is the maroon and 640 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:57,280 tan Lotto kit look. It was already making waves when 641 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,240 half of the Argentinian team was wearing it. 642 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:04,080 So Barachago wore them on his crazy run of the final. 643 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,320 And it's just a, it's a great clay court color combination. 644 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,520 But then we had Fetty Gomez also in Houston doing the splits. 645 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,640 So this is all over all of our timelines. 646 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,480 And like, he's not a petite boy and he's just thick thighs doing 647 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,440 splits on the clay. Are you kidding me? 648 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,280 Like if that doesn't make you gay for tennis, I don't know 649 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,440 what does. I'm like, where are the content 650 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,880 creators that are going to make that into like a like a RuPaul's 651 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,920 Drag, Like put that on the back on the mainstage of the RuPaul's 652 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,360 Drag Race. Show yeah, yeah. 653 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,680 Or like do like the edit of Juicy Love, Dion jumping into a 654 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,440 split and turns into Fetti Gomez. 655 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,440 Like yes, show us that on social. 656 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,800 I need that content. I need that. 657 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,720 Yeah, yeah. But then they all got, they all 658 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,960 got, I hate saying trumped, but they all got overshadowed. 659 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,480 They were in the shadow of Valentin Basharo. 660 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,640 He said hold my cannoli. And he sported that look all the 661 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,640 way to the Monte Carlo semis. And it's funny because those 662 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,480 shorts on everyone else looked kind of like 7 inch shorts, a 663 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,920 little, a little longer than I would love on him. 664 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,440 He's like the Naomi Smalls of tennis where his legs are so 665 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,320 long. The shorts were like short 666 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,760 shorts on him and he looked so good. 667 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,159 And look again, we talked about this like the ATP, they know 668 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:20,120 what they're doing. And there were many photos that 669 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,560 left very little to the imagination that were posted on 670 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,000 like tennischannel.com. Because every time he would 671 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,960 celebrate, Bro was. Bro was very happy and we could 672 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,800 tell so. I get. 673 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,440 I just I'm stuck on Naomi Smalls of tennis. 674 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,159 Right. No, I agree. 675 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:38,000 I love it. I love it. 676 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:44,040 Well, and like, I guess whatever the opposite of a Lozvian is in 677 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,239 Houston, Ben Shelton winning double s with his partner, whose 678 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,120 name escapes me. The tradition at the tournament 679 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,120 to jump into the pool at the Country Club, and Ben Shelton 680 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,960 just dove right in with his socks on. 681 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,240 And I was like, Buddy. It's not the socks. 682 00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:00,520 Coco Chanel said remove one thing. 683 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,920 Look. In the mirror, yeah. 684 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,120 I was like, maybe it's the socks. 685 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,880 Yeah, honey. Or maybe he's got like a toe 686 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,160 fungus. Maybe. 687 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,200 Which I don't mean to be, you know. 688 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,520 Yeah, his his partner was Andres Andrade. 689 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,400 What a name. I don't know, it's pretty easy 690 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,840 and I couldn't even remember it. But it it's like a, it's like a 691 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,400 tongue twister like to twist that. 692 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,800 No, no. There it is. 693 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,720 But anyway, the Lotto kit, like I've never even thought I need 694 00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:30,640 to own a Lotto kit. I need that Lotto kit now, but 695 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,480 I'm worried that I'm going to look more Burr chaga and less 696 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:36,320 Macharo just in terms of like the leg size. 697 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,040 But you know what? I'm just. 698 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,960 You pull it off. Thank you. 699 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,840 Oh, my God. Zachary. 700 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:47,080 Zachary. OK, Well, now it's time for 701 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,320 twit. And that is this week in tennis 702 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,400 where we're just talking about some of the the news, the dudes, 703 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,440 the feuds, the results of the tour. 704 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,480 And yes, we are officially in clay season. 705 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,560 Zach, are you a clay mate? How do you feel? 706 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,000 About that, I like the fact that it's like so different and I 707 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,520 honestly love a longer rally. It just adds to the suspense. 708 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,280 So the fact that the ball is moving so freaking slow and and 709 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,840 so it's just different. I appreciate it. 710 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,040 I don't know if it's necessarily my favorite surface, but I like 711 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,640 watching it. What's your favorite? 712 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:27,920 I think just like as what is it? No, just like, what is it? 713 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,400 I mean, black hardcore. Hardcore. 714 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,600 Yeah. I'm such an idiot. 715 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,760 Cement. Asphalt. 716 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,760 Yeah, yeah, I'm the same. I mean, I I really enjoy this 717 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,040 time of year because it's a nice palate cleanser because like we 718 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,920 had the sunshine double and the, you know, Australian swing. 719 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,040 But like now it's like we get this new take on everything and 720 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,720 like we got to like mix it up. And the ball was so slow in 721 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:53,600 Monte Carlo because of the weather and it was like colder 722 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,080 and misty and all that. So I mean, Alexander, Sasha 723 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,240 Bublik gets bageled like that doesn't happen with his serve, 724 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,680 but he gets bageled because the conditions were so slow. 725 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,160 So it's kind of fun that like serve bots, sorry, this this 726 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,160 ain't your time. You know, this is Diego 727 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,680 Schwartzman's time. So Monte Carlo just wrapped up. 728 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,040 And again, we got to take a moment, give her her flowers for 729 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,320 the most beautiful setting in the world, in my humble opinion, 730 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,680 for tennis is this court. It overlooks the Riviera. 731 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,760 It is just like built into the side of these cliffs. 732 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,760 It is old, like, you know that people have died there. 733 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,480 You know, there's been some drama there. 734 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,800 There's definitely like a cat burglar in the audience. 735 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,400 Like, it's like a James Bond set. 736 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,960 And I love it so much. I remember listening to your 737 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,520 episode about Monte Carlo last year and I didn't think you 738 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,720 could be more of like intensely obsessed with it, but this might 739 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:49,240 have topped it. Like I just because I remember 740 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:51,280 listening because I was like all excited to hear what he had to 741 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,120 say about Houston. And then you'd like, you're 742 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,160 like, Houston happened. Now on to this place that I want 743 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,440 to move to. You are selling Houston. 744 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,120 I'm definitely going to visit, but Monte Carlo I want to be 745 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,320 buried in although, but also because the the political 746 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,000 climate's a little different. You know, there was that one 747 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,160 cutaway. I don't know if you saw this, it 748 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,840 was like on some socials, but there was like a giant mega 749 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,240 yacht with a paddle court and like, just like these four girls 750 00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:18,400 playing and I don't even know if they're playing paddle or 751 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,360 racquetball or it was a court. It definitely wasn't pickleball, 752 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,400 thank God, but it wasn't tennis. And I was just like, that's 753 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,720 giving me the X right now. I don't need to see a 754 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:31,520 billionaire's boat but you. Know, got it, yeah, yeah, I 755 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,360 feel. Bad, I don't know, but I'm going 756 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,560 to go sometime because also the ticker prices again, the ticker 757 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,840 prices in Europe are so much better. 758 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,800 I I just bought all of my tickets for the LA Olympics and. 759 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,680 So you're feeling a little little. 760 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,520 Cash poor, yeah. And I got AI got a good day. 761 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,040 I I got a decent day. I splurged on the tennis tickets 762 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,120 cause all the cheap ones are gone. 763 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,000 I did get like $28.00 badminton tickets though, which I'm pumped 764 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,160 for. Got $20 men's volleyball prelim 765 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,440 like that. I mean that yeah. 766 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,240 I mean, indoor men's volleyball is some of the most fast-paced, 767 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,400 sexy action you're going to find, so at least outside of the 768 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,800 Eagle. But we got to find your. 769 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,680 We got to find your volleyball ball, boy. 770 00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:22,400 Seriously, Like, yeah, guy listeners, if you are a 771 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,440 volleyball ball boy, let's talk because. 772 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,480 Volleyball boy. Volleyball boy, yeah, I would 773 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,400 love. He's a writer. 774 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,080 So we had the final today. We get our first tour clash 775 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,640 between Yannick Sinner and Carlos Alcarez. 776 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,640 This year they haven't met since last year, I think at the tour 777 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,960 Finals. I think they met in the final. 778 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,600 Yeah. Yannick takes it in two sets. 779 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,800 7663, It was a good match. I wasn't obsessed with it. 780 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,320 Did you know that this is only his second title on clay, 781 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,800 Yannick Sinner. Any guesses to what the first 782 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,400 one was? You'll never guess. 783 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,920 You know, 'cause I was like, oh, I was like thinking about, oh, 784 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,000 what, what, what big title on clay has he won? 785 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:11,160 He won Croatia a 250 event in 2022, but do you know who he 786 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,440 beat in that final? Carlos Alcaraz. 787 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,840 Oh, there you go. So that was a good match up for 788 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,600 the for back then, but this is his biggest tournament win on 789 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,560 clay. He looked good. 790 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,120 The conditions were rough. It was very windy, little colder 791 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,360 than they like, but he's he is back his his. 792 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,600 I was talking to a friend last night. 793 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:37,040 Like his wrist snapping is just like the way he like just gets 794 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,040 it around on his backhand. It's just insane so. 795 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,520 Yeah, I saw that he had that incredible volley at the net 796 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,880 that was like their play of the game on the Monte Carlo social 797 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,200 media. Oh. 798 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,760 Yeah, no, there were definitely some good highlights, you know, 799 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,040 from both of them. It wasn't the cleanest match. 800 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,040 Again, I think the conditions were rough, Like the first serve 801 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,440 percentages were much lower than they they normally are. 802 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,560 But it was when you're watching them play, you're like, oh, 803 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:08,920 that's what the best tennis looks like versus, you know, 804 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,760 some other matchups where it's like, look, you're really good, 805 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,120 but you're 1/4 finalist, you know, like, you're not, you 806 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,400 know, yeah. But to your point, it's like I'm 807 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,360 kind of anxiously awaiting the day where somebody pops up and 808 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,560 it's just it's not the classic matchup again, you know? 809 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,080 Yeah, yeah, I mean, and even though this is only the this is 810 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,680 the first time they've met all year, so it's not like they've 811 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:30,920 been dominating every tournament. 812 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,640 The thing is one of them is always winning the tournament. 813 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,680 You know, like Yannick gets the Sunshine double, Carlos gets 814 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,640 Australia. But yeah, we we we need to mix 815 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,560 it up. And I don't think anyone who is 816 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,560 currently in the top 10 is going to be mixing it up with them. 817 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:54,120 There's some hope for the Arthur fees, the Fonsecas, maybe a men 818 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,400 sick, but he's kind of falling off. 819 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,360 But also like maybe like maybe the next person to challenge 820 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,400 them hasn't even been born yet. Like, I don't know, like they're 821 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,720 going to have to wait until they're 40 and then some 20 year 822 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:06,160 olds are going to take them out. Right. 823 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:11,120 But also, this was like a pretty big win for Yannick in terms of 824 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,840 some career stats. He's won his fourth major in a 825 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,080 row. I think he's only the second 826 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,800 person to do that behind Djokovic. 827 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:23,120 He's on a 17 match win streak. I'm happy that because the tide 828 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,640 had turned so much in Carlos's favor last year. 829 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,760 I'm just happy that it's like, we look, we're already bored 830 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,840 with the big two. If it's the big one, just check, 831 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,680 please. Like, I'll just be watching 832 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,640 padel. So, yeah. 833 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:43,080 But I'm curious. Like, so I also, I have a 834 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,240 penchant for the dramatic flair. And so I've been ringing the 835 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:50,200 alarms about Carlos and his coaching decision of, like, 836 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,720 leaving Juan Carlos Ferrero, you know, basically his second dad, 837 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,440 who coached him from the age of 15 until he's 22, and then he 838 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,400 just dumps him for his brother. And now Carlos is kind of like, 839 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,560 skidding out. I mean, I don't know. 840 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,280 I'm a little worried about his focus. 841 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,560 I'm a little worried about his family. 842 00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:13,400 But just as worrying as Carlos's, you know, lack of 843 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,320 tournament wins or titles in the last few months. 844 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:22,960 Was that hair? I am sorry, but what in the set 845 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:28,360 of golden girls accidentally glued on backwards Evie oddly 846 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,280 wig was that that he's because he had like a it was like AI 847 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,080 guess technically a mullet because there's a little bit 848 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,280 shade on each side, but then it was like this weird swooping 849 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,560 motion. It looked like it was literally 850 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:44,160 backwards and I was like, what? Like Carlos, you're you're a 851 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,560 multi $1,000,000 brand get that's a stylist. 852 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,520 That's the part where I'm like, whatever. 853 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,080 He came out where like the next day his head was shaved. 854 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,080 At the US Open. Yeah, yeah, I did too. 855 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,680 I was like, that's kind of cool. Like that's Rock'n'roll, but 856 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,480 that I was Golden Girls is crazy but. 857 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,360 Because he looked, he looked so tough at the US Open and 858 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,040 everything seemed right. And it actually was really 859 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,640 flattering on him. Like he's got really thick hair, 860 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,080 but sometimes it's a little too much. 861 00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:17,600 He also just kind of gives like, I don't care, Like, of all the 862 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,840 things that he's thinking about, it ain't that, you know? 863 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,800 And there's something to be respected about that, you know, 864 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,520 Like, I feel like we can talk about certain like, fashion 865 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,920 players that it's like we're excited to see what they come 866 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,520 wearing out, you know, but. He's not. 867 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,880 No, he's like, I'm just here to win titles, you know? 868 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,280 Yeah, no, it's funny, like last year when he was like, you guys 869 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,960 are gonna be, you're gonna minds are gonna be blown when I see 870 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,920 what I do next. And all he did was dye a blonde 871 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,120 like any queen in wee ho. Like OK girl, you shave your 872 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,160 head and dye a blonde. Yeah, we're checking in on you. 873 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,400 We're doing mental health checks now. 874 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,000 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, like, at least do the 875 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:49,680 eyebrows. Oh. 876 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,720 My God, go full Gaga. Right. 877 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,160 That would be actually, I, I want him to bleach his eyebrows 878 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,000 and shave his head and go bleach that cue ball again. 879 00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:03,200 That would be a look. Then he would win the French 880 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,920 Open. If he doesn't do that, I don't 881 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,320 think his odds are very, very good. 882 00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:08,320 He could be the Dennis Rodman of tennis, yes. 883 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,920 There we go. Which we desperately need. 884 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,520 We do need that. We need someone who's got that 885 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,800 flair. Like, I don't know, has anyone 886 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,600 ever walked out on court in a dress? 887 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:28,690 He's a boy. Well, the other big highlight 888 00:45:28,930 --> 00:45:31,930 and I mean big, we got to talk about his Valentine Basharo's 889 00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:35,080 run to the semis. First of all, he loves a Bay TP 890 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,920 clash. So he takes out Musetti in the 891 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,200 second round. Your crush takes out Herkash a 892 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,880 couple of rounds later. He was this tournaments Arthur 893 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,080 fees, so Arthur fees what he did in Miami where he was just like 894 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,520 beating all the hotties, including he beat Basharo. 895 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:59,680 Basharo like what a story his hometown masters, just the the 896 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,400 crowd was so into it, but they were like respectful, like they 897 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,800 were cheering for Carlos. They were cheering for 898 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,440 everybody. But those shorts, you know, 899 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,600 sometimes I wonder, like, is he really a a top, top tier talent? 900 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,760 But he's been consistent. He's got some really good 901 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,480 results and I'm just I'm, I'm extremely happy he's here. 902 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,560 Just pulling up the pictures of him in that in the shorts that 903 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,000 you're referring to. I'm I'm going to make this my 904 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,960 phone background real quick. And also, I got to say, it's 905 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,080 funny, I'm a wag hag. I love all of the wives and 906 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,960 girlfriends. But like, I feel like his 907 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,000 girlfriend is the victim of a lot of jealousy right now 908 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,000 because everybody wants Valentin and they're like, Can you 909 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,760 believe that she gets that? Because like they post a lot on 910 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,320 social. She posts a lot on socials and 911 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,240 it's like they're very cute. But we're all like, oh, I'm so 912 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:51,000 happy for you. You. 913 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,920 Do you see Valentin Vashiro sticking around? 914 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,360 Is he going to be a threat? Yeah. 915 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,240 I mean, I think so, especially after this Monte Carlo, I mean, 916 00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:04,800 going, what was it, 4646 with Carlos? 917 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,160 Yeah, I mean, I say why not? I think so. 918 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,280 Yeah, I was surprised at how well he did against Carlos. 919 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,000 I thought it was going to be I, I, I mean, Sinner destroyed 920 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,000 Zverev way faster and easier than than Carlos. 921 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:21,080 Took down Vasharo for sure. And also Vasharo is doing really 922 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,360 well with a lot of pressure because he's this time last year 923 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,600 he was ranked in the two hundreds. 924 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,000 And doing that in front of your hometown, like, I don't know, 925 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,360 like what was the name of your hometown again? 926 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,640 Lily Pass. Lamp passes. 927 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,760 Lamp passes, like, you know, if you were at the lamp passes 928 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,280 open, like that's a lot of pressure. 929 00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:39,000 Yeah, yeah. Oh. 930 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,880 Yeah. I mean, I mean, I'm looking at 931 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,600 like Lorenzo Machete beat him in two sets, went to three, and all 932 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,960 the others except for with Alcaraz, I mean, got the 933 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,400 stamina, he's got the staying power. 934 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,760 I think so. Stamina for sure because yeah, 935 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,400 he played all his matches super late. 936 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,920 They end because they were three setters. 937 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,800 They were it was like dark out freezing and come back the next 938 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,000 day and do it because this is not one of the masters one 939 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,280 thousands that is 10 days or even 2 weeks. 940 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,000 It's just it's a week and it got it in. 941 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,760 So yeah, I'm very happy that he's here. 942 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,160 I hope he stays and I hope he continues just being like a 943 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,120 short trailblazer and we'll see what he let's see what he comes 944 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,600 up with next. That crazy guy you mentioned the 945 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,320 study, though, Speaking of, I am a little worried about what's 946 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,320 going on with him. So he withdrew in Australia, he 947 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,640 was up two sets to love against Novak Djokovic in the 948 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,760 quarterfinals and got injured. Terrible injury. 949 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,200 It was like an abdominal strain. He hasn't. 950 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,240 He hasn't won a match since. He lost both of his matches in 951 00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:43,280 the Sunshine Double. Loses to Vashiro here, like you 952 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,760 said. I'm worried about Moussati. 953 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,560 What's going on? Is he fading away? 954 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,280 I don't think he's fading away. I think I mean, an injury is an 955 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,120 injury. He'll he'll bounce back. 956 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,160 Kind of to your point about like cracking past the top 10 or 957 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,160 whatever it is. You know, I think that like he's 958 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,080 just waiting for his one big moment and hasn't had it yet. 959 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,120 But he's like I said, he's like fun to follow. 960 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,760 He's fun to watch. He's fun to watch play. 961 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:13,000 He pretty to look at, you know, but he to your point, it's like 962 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:18,600 we talk about the same big players every kind of Masters or 963 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,440 tournament or whatever it is, you know, and I feel like he 964 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:25,080 just kind of like starts and then kind of goes away, you 965 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,280 know, which is a bummer. But I think he's got the ability 966 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,560 to come back. Yeah, I just hope that he's not 967 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,840 falling into like a bit of like a slump. 968 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,480 Last year was his big coming out year. 969 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,360 I mean, he'd been around, but last year he really reached new 970 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,800 heights. And maybe this is a sophomore 971 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,720 slump mixed with the injury. I also think this is my theory. 972 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:48,760 I think that he crumbled under the pressure of literally 973 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,120 everyone in the world wanting to have sex with him. 974 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,240 You know, there was a there was an article, I think it was in 975 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:56,560 the UK. The title was this tennis player 976 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,280 is making the entire world horny for tennis. 977 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,320 And it was like literally just a profile of him. 978 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,320 And like, you know, he's got that Bottega Veneta contract. 979 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,320 So he comes out like stylish and he's so sexy. 980 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,320 He's walked back on his on court style. 981 00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:13,720 He's very like regular Smegular. He's not trying to be like, you 982 00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:17,480 know, the Flying Nun Pope kit. There's none of that going on 983 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,160 because I think maybe it was like distracting, you know? 984 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,680 I think there's something to be said about that. 985 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,400 What it evokes for me is like whenever, like coaches in high 986 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,920 school make their teams wear the same, like you have to wear a 987 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,040 suit and tie and that's it. And you wear it to school. 988 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:33,640 And before you go, I don't know why I keep like referencing like 989 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,560 high school or whatever, you know? 990 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,040 But like, colleges do it too. And it's like whenever you start 991 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,680 seeing like the NFL players that are walking off the bus to the 992 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,480 stadium and they're wearing like something super flashy, it's 993 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,600 like that's the, I guess to put on my PR hat, which you don't 994 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,840 know what that means. You don't even know what I mean. 995 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,800 You don't want the story to be what you wore like you wanted to 996 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,240 be how you won the tournament. You know what I mean? 997 00:50:57,240 --> 00:51:00,720 And so I feel like whatever a player gets too big for their 998 00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:04,560 britches or too fashionable for their sport, the coaches are 999 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,600 kind of like, hey, what are we focusing on here? 1000 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,680 You know, it's like because to your point, the the Flying Nun 1001 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,960 pub kit, it's like that's what we're talking about right now, 1002 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,720 you know what I mean? And it's like, that's the 1003 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:18,760 headline, that's the pull quote. That's what everybody's talking 1004 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,760 about. You don't want that to be the 1005 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,800 story. You want your skill in the sport 1006 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,480 you're trying to stay in for as long as your knees work to be 1007 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,400 the story. Yeah, yeah, I'm just looking up 1008 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,600 his his stats and he has lost his last 7 finals. 1009 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,240 So, you know, his story was distracting. 1010 00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:38,880 Like he he needs to just lock in and I think he needs to play a 1011 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,120 few more two 50s and win those. He needs a little bit of like a 1012 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,960 jump start and I'm worried that right now he had such a big clay 1013 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,720 season last year. I don't know if he's going to be 1014 00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:51,280 treading water in Madrid and and Rome. 1015 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,440 And then, you know, I don't know, like he he could, he could 1016 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,760 take a tumble. I hope it's not a 60 pass tumble 1017 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,760 where he's like down in the 40s. But he's he's in danger. 1018 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,280 So, Molly, you're in danger, girl. 1019 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:06,160 He could be in the Kia asylum. OK, I've been hearing, I've been 1020 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,960 hearing that term. What the hell does that mean? 1021 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,640 Kia Asylum is a term that I actually had to learn from a 1022 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,000 friend and I want to make sure. I'm pretty sure I think it's 1023 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,440 actually Kia, but everybody just says Kia Asylum. 1024 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,040 It's like. Khia. 1025 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,160 Yeah, it's pop girl purgatory, you know, like, yes, Who talked 1026 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,480 about it recently? Oh, like Charlie XCX was in the 1027 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,120 Kia asylum until BRAT. It's just like these girls who, 1028 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,920 you know, their names, you know, kind of some of their hits, you 1029 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,840 know, But then they never break into, like, full superstardom, 1030 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,120 OK. So yeah, that's OK. 1031 00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:45,240 Lucetti is in the Kia asylum. I yes, yeah, he needs a hit. 1032 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,080 Yeah, exactly. Wow, Kia Asylum mentioned on 1033 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,960 POD. Check, check, check, check. 1034 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:57,200 We're going to end the show talking about the rumor mail. 1035 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,720 So like I said at the top, the rumors are flying left and right 1036 00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:02,600 on the Tors. Did they break up? 1037 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,560 Did he retire? Does she have a new coach? 1038 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:06,840 And I just want to cover some of them. 1039 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,440 I want to address some of them. Not that I necessarily have any 1040 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,920 insider information, but it just felt crazy, like the amount of 1041 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:18,320 rumors that we're going around. So Kaina Shakuri, amazing 1042 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,200 player, has had a lot of injuries, really stumbled coming 1043 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,080 back. But he's a finalist at the US 1044 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,240 Open. He lost a chillage. 1045 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,600 There was all these notices that he was retiring at a Challenger 1046 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,480 tournament. That was his last time. 1047 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,240 I was like, well, that's a weird place to retire. 1048 00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:34,040 And he had to come out onto socials and be like, guys, no, 1049 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,160 I'm not retiring. I go, I'll let you know when I'm 1050 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,080 retiring. And then I think on the same 1051 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,360 day, Craig Shapiro drops the bombshell that Taylor Fritz and 1052 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,560 Morgan Riddle have broken up. He said he's got very, like, 1053 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,880 credible sources and that like, they're over. 1054 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,000 You can't just drop that. And then we see Morgan Riddle 1055 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,520 commenting on a post saying, Taylor, did you know, we broke 1056 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,000 up? Which again, OK, maybe that's 1057 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,120 what a publicist does. Because I was like, is that APR 1058 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,320 move? Is she trying to cover? 1059 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,520 I think Miss Girl Guide, her Twitter or her text thumbs a 1060 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,000 little too free because if it's not true, that makes sense. 1061 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,920 That's kind of funny. It's cheeky, it's whatever, you 1062 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,400 know, And but if it's her trying to just distract and like get 1063 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,000 the story buried or whatever, it's kind of like, well, now 1064 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,040 you're lying, you know, which is just golden rule, never great. 1065 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,000 I'm just, I like AI, love Morgan Riddle. 1066 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,320 Do you? Do you follow her much? 1067 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,560 I don't follow her, but like I, I have girlfriends who do and 1068 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,560 they will evangelize the good word of Morgan. 1069 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,640 She is. She is a great Instagram follow 1070 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,000 folks. She's not afraid to talk 1071 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,000 politics. She has very correct politics 1072 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:42,880 and takes. It. 1073 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,800 I had no idea, yeah. No, takes it. 1074 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,920 I would not expect like she's like fuck ice. 1075 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,880 I mean, she's like full on like calling out. 1076 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,760 I officially Stan no. No, when I started seeing, I was 1077 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,520 like, oh, you're a goddess. Yeah, no, she's amazing. 1078 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,120 Well, and also like because didn't the speculation happen 1079 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,160 because she was absent from his player box for a few? 1080 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,400 She, she hasn't really been around. 1081 00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:08,920 I mean, not that Taylor's really showing up in any significant 1082 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,280 way himself, but maybe it's because of the breakup. 1083 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,960 I mean, I don't know, they were such a embedded and and meshed 1084 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,080 couple that it was just shocking to hear. 1085 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,680 Like, oh, like, I felt sad. I felt sad because I also worry 1086 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,080 that she's the only thing keeping Taylor on this side of 1087 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,480 politics. So I'm just like, oh, like, you 1088 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,520 know. That's The thing is like, I 1089 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:34,440 would love a chart that just tells me where, yeah, every 1090 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,640 player falls. You know, like Tommy, Paul seems 1091 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,080 to come up a lot whenever people are talking about politics. 1092 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,400 Tennis players, I don't know if they have, like, the most woke 1093 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,520 politics in the world. Where I have landed on all of 1094 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,160 that, though, I have now accepted that it is actually 1095 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:53,600 kind of punk rock to objectify straight men who may not like my 1096 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,720 politics. Like, you know, fuck that, You 1097 00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:57,680 know, A great equalizer. Yeah. 1098 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,120 Yeah. I mean, like, look, I mean all 1099 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,960 of them like Draper and there's just people who have like a lot 1100 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,640 of potentially problematic politics and it's not it's not 1101 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,000 great. I mean, our sport is not again, 1102 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,320 there's there's many different types of people that get into 1103 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,040 tennis, but like there's also problematic ones. 1104 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:19,520 And yeah, Tommy, Paul, Ben Shelton, you know, all of them 1105 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,960 might have some some right word leaning predilections, but you 1106 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,320 know, they all need a Morgan Riddle in in their box. 1107 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,040 So, you know, I don't know, maybe she'll show up in another 1108 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,120 player's box. Yeah, but also just like to her 1109 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,280 point or like to put a pin in it, like I'm glad that she at 1110 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,680 least addressed it to put my feminist cap on. 1111 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,640 It's like she wasn't going to let this guy either scoop her 1112 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,760 being able to share her own breakup with the world whenever 1113 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,640 she wants to or like whatever, you know? 1114 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,120 So I'm I'm firmly on the side of hers handling it however she 1115 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,000 wants to, as long as she and Taylor are aligned. 1116 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,680 Yeah, you know what I love? I think that in the last five 1117 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,720 minutes I've turned you into Morgan, Riddlestand and I. 1118 00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:02,080 Am She's amazing immediately. She's amazing. 1119 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:02,760 Yeah. Yeah. 1120 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,320 And she's really funny. Like it's. 1121 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,360 I'm not. I was surprised. 1122 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,240 I was like this one. No, but yes. 1123 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,000 Yeah, I'm so down. Get her on Dancing With the 1124 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,240 Stars. Get her on the ball, boys. 1125 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,000 One of the ball boys first, yet on her way. 1126 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,920 It's a pipeline. Yeah, well we're not done with 1127 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,240 the rumors though folks 'cause then we had some coaching drama. 1128 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,600 So there were the rumor meal was going on over in coaching world 1129 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,320 where first of all, Medvedev's former coach breaks up with his 1130 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,840 new protege and honestly future Bay TP member Nishesh Bazov 1131 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,680 already. But Medvedev had a long term 1132 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,920 coach and this guy just over Instagram is just like, this 1133 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:46,480 ain't working by Nishesh. But the bigger feud and a feud 1134 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,040 that I did not see coming, I didn't think I'd ever talk about 1135 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,720 these two players in the same breath. 1136 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,000 We have Giovanni and Pesci Pericard versus Igas Fiantec. 1137 00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,560 The girls are fighting because Igas has picked up a new coach 1138 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:06,240 from the Nadal Academy, Francisco Roy, who was for a 1139 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,640 brief moment in Pesci Pericard's coach. 1140 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,960 And he's like, no, you don't call, you don't write, you don't 1141 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,280 tell me. So again, the drama. 1142 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,400 And it's good for ego because ego needs to get her shit 1143 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,520 together because she really needs to get back into being a a 1144 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,440 part of the conversation. But again, the the the drama, I 1145 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,000 think people are just loving the drama because also over on 1146 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,160 socials we had Stefanos sits past being interviewed about who 1147 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,880 you should date and not, which is just a terrible question to 1148 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,120 ask somebody with his track record. 1149 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,080 And the first thing out of his mouth is you should never date a 1150 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:45,000 tennis player. And then Paula Bedosa comments 1151 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,280 on that post with just a bunch of laughing emojis. 1152 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,840 Now, is she laughing at him or with him? 1153 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,960 We don't know. But it's just a It's a messy 1154 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,160 time. Was he saying it like in jest or 1155 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,600 was he serious? He was, he was like, that was 1156 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,360 his answer. He's an odd duck though. 1157 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:05,080 His whole life on social is very mercurial and and mysterious, 1158 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,560 but he's just got like a different take on things, which 1159 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,360 I appreciate. Can you stand 10 toes down? 1160 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,640 I I can respect that. And then the last drama was poor 1161 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:15,800 Coco Goff. We talked about this. 1162 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,520 Poor Coco Goff was fighting for her life after her mew mew 1163 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,560 campaign that I thought was really cute. 1164 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,040 I thought she looked really pretty. 1165 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,560 But people are like these photos aren't beautiful and she was not 1166 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,440 feeling great after those critiques. 1167 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:35,400 And she, she had a great post on Instagram talking about it 1168 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,120 really in depth, maybe a little too in depth. 1169 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,920 To be honest, I don't even know if I got to the end of the video 1170 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,600 but. That's what I was going to say. 1171 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:45,320 I I had her TikTok pulled up and I was watching it and was doing 1172 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,760 stuff around like the kitchen or whatever and was just listening 1173 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,520 to it. And I thought I was like, has 1174 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,400 this looped back around? Did I miss the ending of it? 1175 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,680 And she was she was still got, which I'm like, you know what, 1176 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,400 stand your ground. Speak, speak, girl, speak. 1177 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,560 But I did appreciate how she was like, these were not 1178 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,400 professional photos. This was my assistant with an 1179 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:09,320 iPhone like I was going to. This was the brief, Yeah, yeah. 1180 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:14,480 And also though, I think for me, I was like, that's a really cool 1181 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,880 artistic choice. Even if it was like, oh, it was 1182 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,480 just a simple hair and a makeup. I was like, that's really cool. 1183 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:24,000 Because in this era of everything being so polished and 1184 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,880 perfect and AI and like overdone and filled and filtered and 1185 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,720 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I was like, I think that's a 1186 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,400 really cool aesthetic that they got to me too. 1187 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,120 And. It and it's different because 1188 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,320 like we see the same professional shots with these 1189 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,560 tennis players all the time and just keep scrolling, honestly. 1190 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,320 So something that stops you in your tracks and you're just 1191 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:44,600 like, what is this? Why is this? 1192 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,320 You know? And she I just love that she was 1193 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,600 like so down to she loved the bag so much that she was like, I 1194 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,320 just wanted to show it off and do what I need to do. 1195 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,120 And she was grateful to Mew Mew. I thought she handled it 1196 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,800 beautifully. And didn't she in the video or 1197 01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,480 like sat in the couch and something she was like, girls 1198 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,600 with natural hair, if you get it, you get it or something like 1199 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:01,800 that. If, you know, you know, and I 1200 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,600 was like, and shut up, everybody, you know what I mean? 1201 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,000 Like that tells you enough. Like you're speaking on things 1202 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,400 that you know nothing about. So. 1203 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,320 Yeah. Yeah, I, I'm, I'm glad you 1204 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,360 reminded me that. I love that she was like, if you 1205 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,320 have natural hair, you are beautiful like. 1206 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,520 Queen. I like chills. 1207 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,040 Like, yeah, I love. Saying she's she's somebody who 1208 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:25,200 like kids coming up in the sport now, they have so many people to 1209 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,640 look up to and she's definitely one of them. 1210 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,840 Yeah, she's definitely one of my WTA crushes. 1211 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,160 I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say that. 1212 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:35,400 But moving on to our Bay TP, so we've got a new Bay TP out 1213 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,160 folks, which is again, the hottest players on and off the 1214 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,120 court. The people who are making moves, 1215 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,840 going for deep runs, but are also just really freaking hot or 1216 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,280 they're doing something cool. It is not just who is the 1217 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:50,160 hottest player because we cannot have Tummy Paul at the top of 1218 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,400 the list every single week. You and Tommy Paul, my God. 1219 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,840 You know what? Look, the heart wants what it 1220 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,840 wants. But we've got a new list out. 1221 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,920 And yes, topped by the Naomi Smalls of the ATP, Valatin 1222 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,960 Vashiro, plus many others we've talked about, at least one of 1223 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:09,240 your crushes is on there, maybe some surprises or two. 1224 01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,400 So gone over to Instagram, check it out again, our Instagram is 1225 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:18,400 at TBB Tennis. That's at TBB Tennis, but we're 1226 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,800 going to wrap up real quick. And I just want to get your look 1227 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:26,000 ahead, Mr. McKenzie. So Zachary, we have Madrid 1228 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,280 starting in a week. We've got Barcelona coming up. 1229 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,400 Madrid. I kind of love it because it's 1230 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,960 this weird, like brutalist stadium. 1231 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,960 The men and women are back together. 1232 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,520 There are models on the court as ball boys and ball girls living 1233 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,960 for it all. I want to get your hot takes, 1234 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,000 though. So Venus Williams gets a wild 1235 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,320 card to Madrid. She's on an eighth match losing 1236 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,040 streak. How do we feel about her getting 1237 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,800 a wild card? I think with Venus, it's like 1238 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,400 whatever she was coming back, everybody was excited, you know, 1239 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,840 but also apprehensive because she was gone for so long. 1240 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,520 And I love Venus down like and Serena, obviously, like those 1241 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,760 are my girls. They're why I'm here, but they 1242 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,160 they're my mother's they but it's kind of that thing where 1243 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,040 it's like we want it's like push her over the edge and get that 1244 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,920 win, you know, because it's like not Kia asylum. 1245 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:17,280 She's not in her flop era, but it is kind of just like, give us 1246 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,440 something, you know? Yeah. 1247 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,160 Is it more like the Kia retirement home that she's in? 1248 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:23,800 Like, I'm not saying that well, it's. 1249 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,280 Just like girls. I had friends that were very 1250 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,320 excited about her coming back in general, you know, like, and who 1251 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,280 wouldn't be? It's kind of a return to this 1252 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,280 golden era of all of us growing up and this was our girl, you 1253 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,920 know, or one of them. But it's also just kind of like, 1254 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,760 it's kind of like whenever singer goes on their farewell 1255 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,400 tour and then they're touring five years later, it's just kind 1256 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,880 of like, we had this big party for you and like, you were gone 1257 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,040 and we were celebrating how amazing you were, you know? 1258 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,560 So I don't know, I, I love Venus. 1259 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,520 I'll watch her till she finally hangs up her racket. 1260 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:03,560 But it's always kind of tough to see her not rise above. 1261 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,680 Yeah, that's the thing. She will pack the stadium. 1262 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,800 So it's like, OK, she's going to sell the tickets, she's going to 1263 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,960 get the butts in the seats. And also, as I've railed on over 1264 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,440 and over again on the show, I'm so sick of watching matches 1265 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,200 where there's like 20 people in the stands. 1266 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,360 Like, no, we need to fill the stands. 1267 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,680 Like, you know, and if that means busting the kids in, 1268 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,760 great. If that means Venus trotting her 1269 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,160 out when she's 70, whatever. But like, fill these stands. 1270 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,680 Now. Do we think Yannick is going to 1271 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,000 go into completely uncharted territory just like the Artemis 1272 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:39,240 and when the 5th Masters winning in Madrid? 1273 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,720 I'm going to say no. I think it's, I think it's not 1274 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,440 his best shot. What's that? 1275 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,720 He's never done well there. He's never even made the final, 1276 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,840 I don't think. He's never like gone really, 1277 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,080 really far there. But he's never had a great clay 1278 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,960 season in general because he kind of missed. 1279 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,680 Well, he didn't kind of missed the last clay season because we 1280 01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,640 know why. And then he was just a baby. 1281 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,560 But I go into like math mode where I'm like, mathematically, 1282 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,160 is he really just going to keep winning everything? 1283 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:10,120 I mean, he could, but I do think that Carlos is going to not 1284 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:15,040 enjoy the taste of the runner up trophy and I think he's going to 1285 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,560 really assert himself, not out of discipline, but out of maybe 1286 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:23,000 a little bit of bruised ego so. Yeah, I mean, he's definitely 1287 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,880 got more to lose, right? There's something to be said 1288 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,960 about being in a losing streak and that motivating you and with 1289 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,480 center, like y'all talked about it on the last episode I 1290 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,560 believe. But just like how he's kind of 1291 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:36,600 come back and his legs are like jacked, he's fast dump truck. 1292 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,680 Like it's a different, different whole body type that's going to 1293 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,040 be on that court. So I don't know. 1294 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,240 But I I could see Alcaraz, like getting back into the workshop 1295 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,960 and being like, what do we got to do, you know? 1296 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,600 So I mean, would it be, would it be cool if Senator took it? 1297 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,200 Yeah. Like, I think it'd be fun to 1298 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,760 watch, even though I'm rooting for Carlos, you know? 1299 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,600 Yeah. I'm rooting for Carlos to show 1300 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,600 us something new on the court and on his head and, you know, a 1301 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,240 new wig, a new stylist. And it's definitely just a 2 1302 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,000 horse race. And on the women's side, I think 1303 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,640 it's it's, you know, Sabalenka's kind of owned Madrid the last 1304 01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,840 few years. She seems to be pretty 1305 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,560 unstoppable. I can't really imagine anyone 1306 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,240 kind of on clay really, except for maybe Eaga. 1307 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,840 But Eaga is a big question mark right now. 1308 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:28,320 So yeah. But in the exciting news, Holger 1309 01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:33,240 Rune is coming back. So that crazy Mother Effer was 1310 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,440 supposed to be out for a year because he had a horrible 1311 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,800 Achilles tear and, like, had to have complete reconstructive 1312 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:44,040 surgery. And he was posting videos like a 1313 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,400 week after the surgery, you know, with his leg propped up, 1314 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,280 smacking tennis balls. I don't know. 1315 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,440 I'm worried that he's pushing it too fast because he's playing. 1316 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,040 He was supposed to be out, I think all of 2026. 1317 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,080 It's May, and he's going to be playing Hamburg before the 1318 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,120 French Open. He's like, ready. 1319 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,400 He's also a child so I feel like he is recovering a lot faster 1320 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,320 than. He he's got those, he's got 1321 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:08,880 those stem cells and that collagen. 1322 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:09,880 That we don't. He's doing fine. 1323 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:10,680 I think he's good. Yeah. 1324 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,680 Yeah. Kind of astonishing to see how 1325 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,960 young he is. I know I he's literally a a 1326 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,800 child and like. His birthday His birth year 1327 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,680 starts with A2. Oh yeah, well, and that's not 1328 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,920 even young anymore. And that's what's so depressing, 1329 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:29,120 'cause he can be 26 and have A2 and it's like, OK, I don't even 1330 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,200 know this. Is the time we spiral. 1331 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:32,320 Yeah, exactly. I need to. 1332 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,000 I need a cigarette. But I am excited to him back 1333 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,240 because like Holger, if he cooks a little longer, he could be 1334 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,920 someone that pushes Yannick and Carlos. 1335 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,720 I don't think he's going to be the big three. 1336 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,360 People were very excited to call him like the third member of the 1337 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,120 the new big three. He's not there yet, but he could 1338 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:54,440 be and we need somebody. Well, that is our show. 1339 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,920 Zach, you are officially a ball boy. 1340 01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,000 How do you feel? I I enjoyed my time. 1341 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,160 I hope I did a good job. You were fantastic and listeners 1342 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,920 out there programming note we're going to be back in three weeks. 1343 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,120 We're usually every two weeks, but it's going to be 3 weeks 1344 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,320 because we've got Barcelona and then Madrid and I'm not going to 1345 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:14,800 do a show halfway through Madrid. 1346 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:19,240 So we'll be packing and unpacking everyone who is 1347 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,240 keeping it classy and sassy on the clay with that show. 1348 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,760 So we'll see you then in three weeks. 1349 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,680 Until then, our balls are going back into the can. 1350 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:29,479 Thanks y'all, bye.