1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:19,640 Stories from Super Touring. Bourd's 200th victory in the 2 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,600 British Touring Car Championship was also the maiden victory for 3 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,120 New Zealand's Paul Radasich, who had already impressed everyone 4 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,200 in his previous five appearances in the brand new Ford Mondeo. 5 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:35,280 Welcome to the latest episode of Stories from Super Touring. 6 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,760 I'm Levi Riley and to help us look back at the 1993 August 7 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,800 Bank Holiday meeting at Brands Hatch is most sports 8 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,480 photographer Greg Denton. Greg, welcome to your first 9 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:48,280 appearance of Series 5 at the Pod. 10 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,000 How are you? Yeah, very good. 11 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,080 Thank you. And yeah, thank you for 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,840 welcoming me, inviting me back again for Series 5. 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,960 It's a real, real pleasure. So as ever, we'll come to our 14 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,400 guest for our usual opening question first. 15 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,280 So, Greg, what comes to mind for you when you think about this 16 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,400 memorable meeting on the August Bank Holiday at Brands in 1993? 17 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,560 Yeah, I think clearly Ford's 200th win in in touring cars, 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,640 that's a major milestone, the first Mondeo win. 19 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,880 But also haven't just watched back the the highlights. 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,960 It was an absolutely cracking race. 21 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,920 You know, I forgot how good the race actually was. 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,960 Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's something 23 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,800 before we started recording, we've all mentioned how good the 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,560 race was and we'll we'll come to that, I'm sure throughout the 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,640 podcast. Adam coming to you next. 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,080 What jumps into your mind when you think about this race? 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,560 Always, Greg, I'll be. I mean, you can't avoid the fact 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,120 that obviously Mondeo got their 200 victory in the Touring Car 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,200 champion, which was an absolute milestone beyond belief. 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,880 But I think just generally it was just just your absolute 31 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,600 classic touring car race where it was just action going off 32 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,720 everywhere. And also David Leslie on Paul. 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,480 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And it was a great qualifying 34 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,000 performance, one of a couple that he had at Brands Hatch that 35 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,080 season. And finally coming to you, what 36 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,600 are your memories about this lovely hot and then not so hot 37 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,000 weekend in August that year? Yeah, the weather was funny this 38 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,320 this weekend. It was torrential one minute and 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,440 then dry the next. But my one abiding memory is the 40 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:31,960 very venerable Ford Sierra Sapphire of Bob Berridge, which 41 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:38,600 looked archaic compared to when it was being lapped by by Paul 42 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,720 Radisich and the brand new Mondeo. 43 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,600 It looked genuinely archaic. Next. 44 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,680 It looked like it was lost on like a historic race. 45 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,720 It did look like it took a wrong turn, didn't they? 46 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,080 It just looks so old compared to that one there. 47 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,560 And it was only a couple of years old. 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,920 It wasn't, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't that old, but just 49 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,120 that's that's I guess how quick the, the, the formula was 50 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,120 evolving at that point. But it used to always just make 51 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,720 me laugh. It's just like, look how old 52 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,400 that thing looks. Yeah, it looked dated, didn't 53 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,160 it? Really dated. 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,760 Compared to that, not brand new Monday, absolutely, yeah. 55 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,560 I always think it's quite interesting with that car. 56 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,560 I think Jim Wheels first appeared in it in Snetterton. 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,320 I think he blew the engine up, so hardly any photographs of it. 58 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,320 And then I think he sold it to Bob Berridge. 59 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,680 And yeah, then he bought it out. But you're right, it was so old. 60 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,080 It wasn't particularly competitive in 91. 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,920 And to be fair, Bob peddled it pretty hard. 62 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He he became quite decisive in 63 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,520 this race actually, didn't he? As always, we've asked our 64 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,640 faithful listeners what they also thought of about this race 65 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,560 meeting and that we'll glisten to some of what they've come up 66 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,800 with now getting in touch on Facebook. 67 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,840 Dougie Dowson, who was the brother of Roger Dowson, who was 68 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,160 overseeing the master team in the early 90s, and he got in 69 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,720 touch to say that he just remembers the brilliant race in 70 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,200 that weekend and also the Pat grandstands. 71 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,080 And I think the Pat grandstands really became a key feature of 72 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,520 this August brands meeting throughout the rest of the 90s. 73 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,880 Definitely some of the most monumental crowds, as we've 74 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,200 discussed on the podcast before. Yes, absolutely. 75 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,960 Daniel Parker got in touch to add that it was a brilliant 76 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,920 race. Tim Davies remembers Steve 77 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,840 Sofa's rough pass on Rob Gravitt, which I'm sure we'll 78 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:33,760 we'll talk about as a very big conversation topic, especially 79 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,800 with with championship implications at that stage where 80 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,160 Shepherd got in touch. So it's the race where, as Alex 81 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,200 mentioned, Bob Beveridge in his Ford Sierra made his only 82 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,200 appearance in the season review video. 83 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,680 And what an appearance it was, one that I don't think many 84 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,960 people have forgotten either. And Jon Corley finally got in 85 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,160 touch remember Rob Gravet's second place finish for Peugeot 86 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,000 and said that he'd always been a big fan of Gravet and this sort 87 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,520 of result showed just how good he was when the machinery was 88 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:10,480 working for him. Heading into the weekend it was 89 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,880 announced that Chris Goodman would be making his debut in the 90 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,280 championship. At this meeting he would be 91 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:19,240 racing 1/3 Acura across Vauxhall in the car that was built for 92 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,200 the Spa 24 hour race. It's a turning point, Goodwin 93 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,240 said before the race. The idea is to set me up for a 94 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:31,040 full season in 1994. Greg Christie get his full 95 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,960 season in 1994, but after that we never saw him on a BTCC grid 96 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,320 again. Was he a Miss Hammond on the 97 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,640 grid only being around for one and a bit seasons? 98 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,280 Yeah, I think Chris was another example of a really talented 99 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:47,240 racer that didn't quite get his chance in touring cars. 100 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,320 I think if he had it done, it would have gone on to really 101 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,920 good things. You know, fantastic racer, 102 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,360 carried on in GTS, made great success. 103 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,640 But I guess it just showed how difficult it was even in those 104 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,200 days to get the budget together to to get full seasons together 105 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,720 and also be snapped up for works at work still. 106 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,840 You know, when we look at some of the drivers that ended up in 107 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:10,920 Super Touring, you think, would you have done a better job than 108 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,760 some of them? Morbidly Boolean. 109 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,040 Yeah, yeah. I don't think it's done much, 110 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:22,080 much worse than them. Tiftadel returned to the grid in 111 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,800 a third Nissan Primera, whilst his teammate Keith Odorf spoke 112 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,800 to Auto Sport before the race and claimed that any one of 12 113 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,400 drivers could win the upcoming race. 114 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,760 Alex with Keith Rey. The field closed up that much 115 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,960 from the start of the season where the BMWs were much more on 116 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,760 top and dominant. Yeah, absolutely. 117 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:47,560 I mean, you just have to look at this race to see, you know, 118 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,000 you're about about 30 laps in. The top five are all separated 119 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,880 by just over a second. They're all different 120 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,360 manufacturers. Yeah, they're all different 121 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,440 cars. You've got a Ford, Peugeot, BMW, 122 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,320 Toyota, Keith himself in the Nissan, Patrick Watson. 123 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,920 The Mazda was competitive. You had David Leslie in the 124 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,480 Kiriakos, RML Vauxhall that was getting pole positions 125 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,200 everywhere. The field, the field had closed 126 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,760 up considerably. And then, of course, you've got 127 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,400 the addition of the four Mondeos, which didn't race at 128 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,280 the first race of Brands Hatch. They had come in from from 129 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,840 Pembrey. And as the races went on, they 130 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,320 were getting more and more competitive. 131 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,600 And yeah, you know, Paul stuck it on the the front row of the 132 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,480 grid here as a as a prime example. 133 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,080 They ran 1-2 in the race for a lot of this race. 134 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,640 So yes, the the field had closed up dramatically compared to the 135 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,920 start of the season where it pretty much was a BMW 136 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,120 demonstration at most tracks. The 1994 calendar was also 137 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,240 announced over this weekend, with the vast majority of 138 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,120 meetings for the new season now having two races per meeting. 139 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,480 Adam Especially in this modern age of three races a day, the 140 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,840 BTCCC events, it's mad to think, looking back, isn't it, that you 141 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,840 had some meetings that only had one race, isn't it? 142 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,560 It is, but back then it was the norm, wasn't it? 143 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,360 You know, it was just the norm. You were all geared up to watch 144 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,520 one race or as a driver. They were all geared up to do 145 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,280 one race and everything, everything counted, everything 146 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,720 mattered. But then I remember being it 147 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,200 was, it was big news and he said, well, how's that going to 148 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,400 go? Or don't know if that's going to 149 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,680 work. And obviously you don't, you 150 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,240 have your doubts about how to, don't you? 151 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,280 But it was a big announcement. But from a team's perspective 152 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,320 and a driver's perspective, there's a lot more to think 153 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,880 about. You can't necessarily go 154 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,720 completely gung ho or they wouldn't necessarily see that in 155 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,880 any BTCC race that people are backing off. 156 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,800 But you can't afford to have a lot of damage in the first race 157 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,440 knowing that you've got to then get it ready for the second 158 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,920 race. So the teams would have felt a 159 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,080 bit of pressure there on from the drivers thinking, look, 160 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,640 bring this thing home. But so it's a case of we need to 161 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,680 score maximum points but at the same time don't do anything 162 00:08:56,680 --> 00:08:59,440 stupid. But now I think you just added 163 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,240 to the complete excitement for a fan, knowing that you're going 164 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,760 to witness these twice in a day, which was absolutely brilliant. 165 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:12,840 As Adam said, there were the double race meetings up to 1995. 166 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,120 There were 10 minutes between the races. 167 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,480 Yeah. You know what I was going to 168 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,640 say? Which was which that was bonkers 169 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,080 in itself. You know, you couldn't, you 170 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,320 know, you try spinning the car around. 171 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,400 It's a case of just, you know, oil levels or dumping the oil, 172 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:27,960 fresh oil if they were doing that. 173 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,720 But it's fuel and tires and any minor adjustments like you have 174 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,760 no time to really do anything. Yeah, if you had damage to the 175 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,360 car, body work damage, you couldn't stick a new wing on it. 176 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,880 You couldn't stick a new bumper on it. 177 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:45,680 It was just keeps back on because you had 10 minutes, you 178 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:49,240 had to be back out there when that they had, they had a board, 179 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,400 a timing board with 10 minutes on the clock and you you could 180 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:57,080 watch it countdown and it's mad to think of it now, isn't it? 181 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,000 I think some drivers is probably just enough to get a comfort 182 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,080 break before the next race. Exactly, Yeah. 183 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,840 Yeah, yeah. Jump, jump out, maybe a banana 184 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,320 or something, quick snack just to get your energy levels back 185 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,840 up because it's hard fought racing, isn't it? 186 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,920 Especially around a tight twisted circuit like brand and 187 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,560 especially on the some of the summer days around there can be 188 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:17,720 really, really hot and intense. So yeah, it wasn't really a 189 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,680 break for a driver because you're still sat in the, you 190 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:22,080 know, you're like you said, a quick comfort break back in the 191 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,560 heat of the car. That's that wasn't penetrating 192 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:27,560 through there that, you know, you've got to get back in your 193 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:29,800 sweaty race suit. You might go and change your 194 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,960 underwear top, you know, you know, mixed top underneath your 195 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,560 suit. Maybe just try and freshen up a 196 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:35,440 little bit. But that probably wouldn't. 197 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,440 To be honest though, you know, imagine just smoking. 198 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,200 Joe just sat there having a cigarette and a biscuit canoe 199 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,360 with his open face helmet on. Just, you know. 200 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,520 I reckon he probably got through a packet in that 10 minutes 201 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,240 like. Yeah. 202 00:10:49,040 --> 00:11:00,950 Yeah, yeah. Saturday it was sunny and hot 203 00:11:00,950 --> 00:11:04,230 for qualifying, which probably slowed the track by a couple 204 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:07,720 attempts, but that didn't stop the Touring Carboys rivaling the 205 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,880 time setting qualifying in cooler conditions during the 206 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,200 June meeting. David Leslie took pole at that 207 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,880 brand's meeting in June and was one of the favourites for the 208 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,840 top slot again. The Scott, however, was faced 209 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,600 with the same dilemma as the rest. 210 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,400 I went out on the first set of Donmap tyres and set a 211 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,400 reasonable timing came into the pits. 212 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,800 Then I couldn't decide whether to wait for the second session 213 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,880 in the hope that it would get cooler or to use the other two 214 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,160 tyres when I slipped from 1st to 5th in the times I went out 215 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,280 again and it was a good lap, everything worked, he said after 216 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,880 the session. As in June, Leslie proved that 217 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,800 the Dunlop tyres had a significant advantage over the 218 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,560 Yokohama's on that all important hot lap. 219 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,680 This time, however, we had a new element in the shape of Michelin 220 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,640 which the new four team was running. 221 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,240 Ranasicha put the Mondeo into second slot on the grid and was 222 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,000 now confident of a good result, while teammate Andy Rouse was 223 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,280 ruining a potential pole lap which had been spoiled when one 224 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:13,040 of the Nissans got in his way. Greg a real sign there with the 225 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,680 pace and qualifier that these falls were now up to speed and 226 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:19,800 finally competitive after delayed star entry into the 227 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,720 season and then slowly finding their feet in the first few 228 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,520 meetings after their debut at Pembrey. 229 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,000 Hey guys, it's Matt Clawson, your host of the All Automotive 230 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,080 podcast. I've been in the automotive 231 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,320 industry for over 30 years. I've owned my own repair shop 232 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,720 for the last 15 years. I was going to write a book, but 233 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,520 I started this podcast instead. So come join me for my take on 234 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,360 vehicle extended service contracts or what to look for 235 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,840 when purchasing used vehicle. Like and subscribe to the All 236 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,880 Automotive Podcast. We're on Apple Podcasts, 237 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,000 Spotify, or wherever you're listening now. 238 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,760 Yeah, I think as you said, considering the start of the 239 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,320 year, you know, the whole just is it front wheel drive, is it 240 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,360 rear wheel drive turning up at race meetings, being totally 241 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,280 uncompetitive. Like last series, we talked 242 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,240 about Donnington 93 for the European Grand Prix round where 243 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,880 they tested and then withdrew because it would have not been 244 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,920 the right thing to do. The fact that they were now 245 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,400 really setting the pace I think showed how amazing the job that 246 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,640 Andy Rouse and the team did to turn that car into a really 247 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,480 competitive proposition. Splitting the two fours was 248 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,760 Vinkelhock, He too reckoned that he'd been blocked on his best 249 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,880 lap, but he had kept 2 brand new tyres for the race and was super 250 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,960 confident. His teammate Steve Soper was 251 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:52,440 fifth fastest, just 100th of a second slower than rounds Adam. 252 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,280 It's Brands Hatch in the indie circuit, so the gaps are always 253 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,960 going to be close on that time. But 100th of a second between 254 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:02,080 drivers is is just incredible, isn't? 255 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,400 It is, you know, it takes you longer to blink and that sort of 256 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,040 puts things into perspective a little bit from a fan from a fan 257 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,000 to try and understand what that means. 258 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,200 But even you know, we it's not uncommon and you're seeing for 259 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,600 even in Formula One, you will attack and all the everything 260 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,640 they have touring cars, you've always been hundreds of a 261 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,560 second, a 10th of a second, 2/10 per second like is literally the 262 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,040 blink of an eye. And and it's always been close. 263 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,440 And that's what made the championship as good as the ease 264 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,240 because it's competitive. And that's what people want to 265 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,720 see close racing. No one wants to see a car that 266 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,680 is a second lap faster than anybody else. 267 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,280 But brands is a particularly hard circuit to overtake on and 268 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:45,360 even the default GP circuit. So it means even more to be, you 269 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,240 know, a row ahead or a car ahead in qualifying. 270 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,360 So, you know, to to, to qualify the front there. 271 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,160 I was never fortunate to be on the front row around there. 272 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,040 But I've had reverse grades where I've been closer to the 273 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,520 front. But yeah, it's such a hotly 274 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,240 contested race because if you're in the middle of the pack, you 275 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,080 know, you've got to have your wits about you on it from all 276 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,440 angles because you just, you can just easily get mugged around 277 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,680 there. You know, you if someone has the 278 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,880 inside of you and then you, you've had to give a bit of room 279 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,760 for them and another one quickly follows through. 280 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,280 It's that type of OK. So yeah, it's difficult. 281 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,600 But yeah, you are talking hundreds, thousands of a second 282 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:23,520 sometimes. Yeah. 283 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,400 So it would have been frustrating for him to miss out 284 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,520 by that. But, you know, he tried his 285 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:29,440 hardest to get it back. Didn't. 286 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,120 Rob Gravett was an excellent 6th in his Peugeot Four O 5. 287 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,640 For the first time this year, the car was looking genuinely 288 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,800 competitive. I'm very happy, said Robert. 289 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,120 The point is we've improved again since Alton and it was 290 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,680 better than it ever been before there. 291 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,080 Alex. Is it good to see Peugeot 292 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,800 finally putting together a competitive package here at 293 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,640 Brands? Absolutely. 294 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:59,000 It's Peugeot was steadily and slowly improving throughout the 295 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:04,400 second-half of 1993. If you remember in our episode 296 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:10,520 with Ian Flux he told us in at at Not killed in 93 the two 297 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:15,720 works Peugeots had brand new engine designs and his Peugeot 298 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,600 was not allowed that new engine. And if you remember, he 299 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,480 described his engine as one that had come out of a Leeds taxi. 300 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:31,080 Standard Ian flux then. Yeah, so that did push Peugeot 301 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,680 more towards the front of the grid, but this was another step 302 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,200 forward again. And the team were a bit sort of 303 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,080 illicit. They didn't really want to say 304 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,480 what they'd done, but apparently there were major chassis 305 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,640 changes. The front subframe had had been 306 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,400 altered and redesigned and and apparently that was a real 307 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,920 breakthrough on, on the competitiveness of this four and 308 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,920 five sadly didn't really follow through and the competitiveness 309 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,760 didn't move on and on. And you know, this was one of 310 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:07,880 well, it was, it was the joint best result that Peugeot ever 311 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,079 got in the BTCC. We've talked long and long and 312 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:16,040 hard about their their issues in in this podcast, haven't we, 313 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,119 that that Peugeot had during the era. 314 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,200 So it's a real shame that they didn't bounce, bounce forward 315 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,400 from this momentum and and, and get that elusive win that never 316 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,560 quite got got to them. So it's a shame. 317 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,640 But yeah, great to see the 405 up there because I always 318 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,160 thought it was a nice looking touring car. 319 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,080 I think it was a bit of a Gravity special circuit as well 320 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,760 because if you remember 91 in the track * Sierra, that was 321 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,800 actually his best race in that one where I think he finished 322 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,800 second. So it was clearly one of 323 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,160 Gravity's favorite tracks as well. 324 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,240 The most confused and depressed drivers on the grid were found 325 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:59,600 in 17th and 21st position. The men, who occupied 3rd and 326 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,920 6th in the championship standings before the race, could 327 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,240 not understand why their Vauxhall Sport Cavaliers were so 328 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,200 slow. It feels good, but it's just not 329 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,600 doing the times we want, explained John Cleland. 330 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,200 If you're going on the wine tonight, I'm going on the 331 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,160 whiskey, teammate Jeff Allen joked to Cleland after the 332 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,320 session. Even the use of the revised 333 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,960 engine with a reverse cylinder head wasn't enough to help Jeff. 334 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,640 It was just three hundredths of a second faster than Ian Khan's 335 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,400 ex Acuria cost Cavalier, which was the fastest of the 336 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,320 privateers. Greg really not a happy time at 337 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,640 the factory Vauxhall team, especially considering there's a 338 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,720 Cavalier on pole and it's not theirs. 339 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,560 Yeah, I think it was really not a good race at all. 340 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,200 You know, they were really off the pace. 341 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,920 And I think what was surprising, watching the coverage again, to 342 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,920 not really hear John Cleland mentioned very often or not seen 343 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,040 at all, just showed you how far off the pace they were. 344 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,040 I think the 93 voxel Cavalier really wasn't a particularly 345 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,200 great car. Yeah, they were high in the 346 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,800 championship, but it didn't seem to be a very consistent car. 347 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,920 And clearly that was probably the final nail in the coffin for 348 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,800 Dave Cook because obviously they then swapped to 94 to Ray Malik. 349 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,000 So yeah, you could clearly see the team was was struggling. 350 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,000 Andy Rouser was quietly confident that today would be 351 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,280 the day that Ford would take its 200th tour in car victory. 352 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,240 Well, it's, it's a good chance, yes. 353 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,160 We're both starting fall of ourselves, starting at the front 354 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,960 of the field and it's a, it's a long race, so anything can 355 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,600 happen. Hopefully we can work our way to 356 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,000 the front. It's always going to be 357 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,200 difficult, but certainly we're in with a very good chance of 358 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,360 that 200th win today. Heavy rain overnight looked set 359 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:44,720 to change everything for the race though, and a 10 minute 360 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,800 familiarisation session was quickly arranged. 361 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,360 A couple of hours before the start of the race, Rob Gravett 362 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:55,200 told BBC Grandstand just how much work was required with the 363 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,960 change of conditions. If you have to come in and pit, 364 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,640 then basically the race is over. So we've got to make the 365 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,160 decision. It's very, very difficult today 366 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,480 because the weather here could be wet, could be dry. 367 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,680 The weather forecast is that it is going to be wet. 368 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,160 But if we had to run right now then I'd run as a dry setup and 369 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,640 that means changing the gear ratios, changing the front and 370 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:13,920 the rear roll bars and the spring. 371 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,640 So we've got a lot to do to the car and I have to give at least 372 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,800 25 minutes for them to be able to change. 373 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,040 The teams are able to change those parts on the car. 374 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,880 By the time they were out, however, the track was drying. 375 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,480 Slicks was soon the order of the day and little was learned. 376 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:32,600 Adam, a quick question to you. From a driver's point of view, 377 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,360 these familiarization sessions when the weather changes over 378 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:39,680 the weekend, how important are they for the drivers and can 379 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,560 sometimes actually they end up being a little bit counter 380 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,720 intuitive, especially in a situation where as we've seen on 381 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,360 race day, it started wet and then dried for the race. 382 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:53,120 Yeah, so, so did they make this session available? 383 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,960 Like literally no notice, just looking all the time. 384 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,320 That's right, yeah. I've got things out of order. 385 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,360 I absolutely don't agree with it at all. 386 00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:03,440 I think for anyone that's not confident to go out there yet, 387 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,600 they're going to be all over it. But I'd love to know whether the 388 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,400 manufacturers have been instigated that or as a couple 389 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,560 of drivers got together and made that happen and and swayed 390 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,560 because I can't see Alan Gal wanting them to do it either to 391 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,080 be honest. But it's part of racing. 392 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,040 It's the same for everybody. I thought I've done stuff like 393 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,280 that. All of a sudden if he pees down 394 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,880 with rain and you're on slicks and you've got time to act the 395 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,360 way it's on, get out there, get it done. 396 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,520 That's part of the fun. That's part of who's going to 397 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,640 find the grip the most, who's going to, you know, get the best 398 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,240 and take the advantage and and, you know, rise above it all. 399 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,840 You know, conditions like that just sort something out from the 400 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,360 boys. So absolutely not. 401 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,400 The start is always creature at Brands Hatch, so let's say what 402 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,360 David Leslie had to say to BBCTV before the race start. 403 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,480 I've made some absolutely diabolical starts this year. 404 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,240 We've done some work on that to try and help my start both my 405 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,960 practicing and some work. With the car. 406 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,840 So therefore I'm hoping that I will make some better start 407 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,000 today than I have done in the past. 408 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,200 As the lights went out, Randositch jumped Leslie from 409 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,080 the start to lead into Paddock 36. 410 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,600 Laps of action all the way coming up. 411 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,360 So watch Winklehawk in the white BMW row, two Radish each moves 412 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:19,040 to the right to box him in and he passes David Leslie into the 413 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,840 lead. Can it bend? 414 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,320 It's Radish each leading Leslie second, Winklehawk third, Steve 415 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,440 Sofa running wide. I've been working on that all 416 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,760 night, said Paul at about 4:00 AM. 417 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,360 It was good too. More seriously, the team had 418 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:35,960 been working hard to get the engine mapping right for the 419 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,880 race starts and it had appeared to have paid off. 420 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,800 Alex, that's a pretty demon start from Raddatz. 421 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,120 I don't think it's quite on the level of Pembrey for me. 422 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:45,720 Another. Year. 423 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,160 But it was a very good start, wasn't it? 424 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,680 It was a brilliant start. And yeah, I felt for David 425 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,080 Leslie saying before the race that, you know, he'd made some 426 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,440 terrible starts throughout the year and that he was determined 427 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,920 to make a better start this time. 428 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:02,400 And same thing really happened, didn't it? 429 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,600 But yeah, whatever Paul Radisich was doing at Foy and in the 430 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,960 hotel, it worked because it was a brilliant start. 431 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,680 And and and he led, yes, jumped straight into the lead from from 432 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,440 Paddock. So yeah, excellent start 433 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,960 considering as well. He had a couple of BMWs behind 434 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,800 him, you know. Yeah, excellent to take the lead 435 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,160 in the in the Ford. Brilliant start. 436 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,640 Because that easily could have gone the other way with the BMWs 437 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,720 because like Sober and Wilcock weren't that there are only a 438 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,760 couple of rows behind. And that's doable with BMWs. 439 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,040 We've seen it in through my era. Yes, yeah, yeah. 440 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:37,400 Wayne Pat, that house. So when I watched the race 441 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,640 again, I looked at it and I thought, well, I fancied one of 442 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,240 the BMW used to at least be first or second into that. 443 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,200 Very Paddock Runnersitch kept his lead ahead of Leslie whilst 444 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,120 Rouse, Winkle, Hop and Super were free abreast down the hill 445 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:54,240 and up into Struid's Round Druids and down into Graham Hill 446 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,200 Bend. Winklehok and Leslie then made 447 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,360 contact. Greg. 448 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,280 There seemed to be a lot of incidents of Leslie and 449 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,520 Winklehok throughout 1993, didn't there? 450 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,680 Yeah, I think they were. They seemed to be quite 451 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,920 attracted to each other. And what what I was thinking is 452 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,320 actually how the discussions after those incidents would have 453 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,320 gone. So David Leslie with his broad 454 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,680 Scottish accent, Winkle Hock with his limited understanding 455 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,240 of of English. I dread to think what was being 456 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,320 discussed and what was being understood from those 457 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:28,040 conversations. With a cigarette break every 3 458 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,880 minutes as well. Sadly for David Leslie, he 459 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,560 normally came off worst. Yeah. 460 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,640 I guess that's expected. Two really hard races at the 461 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,000 front of the grid. That's true. 462 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,000 It's going to happen. That's true, yeah. 463 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,280 Although Leslie held the slide free, contact Vinkelhock, SOPA 464 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,240 and rounds for free up at Clearways, it was the BMWs that 465 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,840 got in a tangle, resulting in Super going wide and dropping to 466 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,640 6th behind Gravett Adam. Deep breath. 467 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,520 That's quite an exciting first lap, isn't it there? 468 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,240 Yeah, it's exactly as a fan, it's exactly what you want to 469 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,920 see and it's what you sort of got to expect from the touring 470 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,000 car Championship. But it was so much that was 471 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,240 going on, like let obviously Lily had a poor start. 472 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:20,000 Then he's he's he's collided with the BMW, I think sober 473 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,680 throat. Was it Winkle off at the front, 474 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,960 at the inside of him at Graham Hill and him sideways. 475 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,160 Who's come out at the bottom of Graham Hill? 476 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,920 The old Graham Hill. Yeah, fast Graham Hill, 477 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,720 completely sideways. Like look like he's going to 478 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,840 have a big tank slapper at some point because that could have 479 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,280 gone really bad. But he did well to save that 480 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,160 one. But you can't afford for any 481 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,160 incident, if you'd like. I said before you just go 482 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,800 tumbling down the order. And obviously the BMW sort of 483 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,760 got tangled up into clear ways. Didn't know where. 484 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,920 I think Sobrist tried to cut back on Wink a lot, but he 485 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,720 couldn't. And then he's gone wide on all 486 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,960 the dirt and the crap on the outside, and then he's lost it 487 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,480 with momentum coming onto the stride. 488 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,520 So there's lots going on, lots going on. 489 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,560 But it's, yeah, completely great as a driver if you're part of 490 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,800 it, but you're benefiting from all of that absolute nightmare 491 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,120 of a first lap if you're not benefited from that because you 492 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:11,200 just plumbing down the order. But yeah, as a fan, it was it 493 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,920 was great to watch it back, to be honest. 494 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,200 It's just mega. With similar battles happening 495 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,800 all the way down the field, Radicich LED Vinkelhok, Rouse, 496 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:26,680 Leslie Gravitt, Super Nidel O'dell, Eugene O'Brien and Will 497 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,120 Hoy over the line for lap one. It didn't take long, however, 498 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,720 for Vinkelhok to close the gap to Radicich. 499 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,840 The Kiwis healthy first lap lead of 1.09 seconds quickly dwindled 500 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,000 and Vinkelhok was only 6 temps adrift at the end of lap 2. 501 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,080 It was on lap 4, but the drama all started. 502 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:52,240 Peter Panic, and that is David Leslie, third in the Acura 503 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,560 across Vauxhall, well ahead of Cleland and alum in the works 504 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,040 cars in fact, up into druids and Leslie's attacking for second, 505 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,560 attacking Winklehog and he's hit Winklehog and they're all 506 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:09,240 pouring past the German and David Leslie, well, Leslie 507 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,200 rejoins. Winklehock is looking for a 508 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,800 weigh in. He's having trouble in finding 509 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,840 it. He rejoins with Jeff Allen's 510 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,680 battered Vauxhall and Jeff is down in 18th place. 511 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,160 Leslie was the fastest man on the track, coming within 100th 512 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,760 of a second of the lap record at Druids. 513 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,320 Leslie made his move and he and Vinglehop touched again, 514 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,560 smoking. Joey spun twice and David was 515 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,520 stuck behind him as the traffic streamed past. 516 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,800 They eventually both resumed down the field, Leslie in 14th 517 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:46,240 and Vinkelhock in 19th. Alex, thoughts on this one? 518 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,520 Racing incident, 5050 Yeah. Leslie, go wide. 519 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,640 Finkelhock tired. And what? 520 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,480 What do you think? No, no, no, for me, 5050 Leslie 521 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,440 had enough of a of a gap at the inside. 522 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:06,160 He was enough at the inside to justify being there and it's I 523 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,200 think it's just a typical Brands Hatch style incident. 524 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:16,280 It's just too as, as Greg said not long ago, 2 hard fast races 525 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,600 fighting for the same bit of tarmac and yeah, for me, just a 526 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,800 racing incident. Really unfortunate that they 527 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,920 both were Winklehox spun and and and David was sort of stuck 528 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,880 behind him and they really dropped down the order. 529 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,880 You know, half the time they probably would have just rubbed 530 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,360 panels and both got away with it. 531 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:35,560 But yeah, just a really unlucky racing incident. 532 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,000 I don't think there's any blame to be had here in the sense of 533 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,200 one is more to blame than the other. 534 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:47,520 I think it was just a a typical 5050 style race incident that 535 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,880 that happens. Yeah, from my point of view, I 536 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,640 think it is definitely a 5050 that the rumours there for 537 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Leslie to make the move, he's made the most of it. 538 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,760 He's probably slightly missed the apex as you see them 539 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,520 initially looks to hit it and then as they start coming round, 540 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,440 Drew, as you can see, he's just coming away from it and and 541 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,160 that's where he's drifted. But it's nothing that really 542 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,360 equally probably Joe should have seen that one a little bit as 543 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,040 well and it's turned in a little. 544 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,480 So on both ways you can see this this a little bit of fault there 545 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,520 something they both could have done to avoid it and neither of 546 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,320 them have. So that to me is a textbook 547 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,480 5050. If the cars were in opposite 548 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,000 positions and it was smoking, Joe got up the inside of Leslie, 549 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,920 it would have been fine because Les is in a front wheel drive 550 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,680 car. He just kept his foot in it and 551 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,720 he just stayed in it. The problem you have with the 552 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,840 BMWs in any championship is their rear wheel drive and once 553 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,880 they get so far they're a passenger, it will spin. 554 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,120 That can only get, So you look at him, he's gone full lock, he 555 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,720 can't give it anymore. If he nails the throttle, it's 556 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,160 just going to help the spin. He's going to spin him around. 557 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,280 If he backs off, he won't even. It just gets to that certain 558 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,840 point where pivots round and once it goes a degree beyond 559 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,760 that you've gone. But front wheel drive, that's 560 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,520 the benefit. You can just nail it and you'd 561 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,600 stay in it and that and that's the difference. 562 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,840 So Winkle Hawk maybe could give me a little bit more room. 563 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,400 And I think he probably just looked worse on Leslie's part 564 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,680 because it was a BMW and he ended up spinning. 565 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,040 If that had to be in another front wheel draft car that both 566 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,240 would come out the end of that kind of a bit wide that the one 567 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,760 on the outside had carried on. He's just that characteristic of 568 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,520 a BMW. All this left Ruddersitch 569 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:44,400 leading Rouse, Gravit, Super Nidal, O'dor, Hoy, O'Brien and 570 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,440 Allan Menu all streaming through virtually nose the tail. 571 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,960 The first gap of more than one second between cars was between 572 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,960 Dave Pinckney and Alex Portman who were fighting for 25th and 573 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,680 26th position. Greg, this must be one of the 574 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,960 closest touring car races there's ever been, not just in 575 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,200 Super Tour, but throughout history. 576 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,080 Yeah, I think so. You know, it was competitive all 577 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,680 the way through the field. You know, at the front we had 578 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,160 Ford, Peugeot, BMW, Nissan, Toyota, different time 579 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,720 manufacturers as well. But to have it so close through 580 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,480 the whole field with the privateers as well, I think it 581 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,080 was a, you know, a real great example of that. 582 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,840 And I think the other question as well, I always ask myself, 583 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,160 was this really great, a great example to say why pre aero 584 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,160 Super Touring was better than post aero Super Touring. 585 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,360 And on the view of the the highlights of this race, you'd 586 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,000 say, well pre aero Super Touring was pretty damn good. 587 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,080 Yeah, absolutely. With different time 588 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,760 manufacturers as well, then for them to get so close, you know, 589 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,920 it's, it's, you know, testament to them really. 590 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,680 The fact that you've got such, well, I say such different 591 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,760 times, there must have been very, very close. 592 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,360 But to have two different time manufacturers, but to still put 593 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,920 the car so competitive, you know, against each other, you 594 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,680 know, testament to them. But I think that's the beauty of 595 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,560 brands as well. The indie circuit and and Gal 596 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,760 would have known that with the indie circuit that you don't get 597 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,520 spread out so much. Yeah, and I think it's the way 598 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,320 the cars evolved as well during the race. 599 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,600 You know the Mondo's were fast at the start. 600 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,440 They will Hoy in the Toyota at one point 10, but he was really 601 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,480 coming through the field. The Nissan's as well. 602 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,680 I think the cars were evolving as the race progressed as well, 603 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,720 which was also made a really exciting. 604 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,040 Yeah, and that's another good reason for wanting to be at the 605 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,080 front because at least you could just defend like crazy and still 606 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,080 potentially hold the cars, you know, in any any category that 607 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,720 you see around that circuit really. 608 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,840 You can keep the cars behind you for for pretty much the whole 609 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,320 race if you if you're struggling. 610 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,200 But you know, with the circuits like Silverstone or, you know, 611 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,080 it's a lot more spread out, you wouldn't get away with that. 612 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,680 So that's why being at the front of brands is so important. 613 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,760 And I said even Bob Beverage was hanging in there and he sits 614 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:58,240 Sierra. On lap 6, Keefe Dor moved up 615 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,440 into fifth place. It was a planned move, explained 616 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,440 teammate Nadel after the race, who dropped dutifully back to 617 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,360 6th. Tiff wasn't going to be involved 618 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,480 in the race for much longer though, as on lap 12 he was 619 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,680 involved in a collision with Will Hoy. 620 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,040 In car with Will Hoy up to Druids 4 and he hits than his 621 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,120 hand pushes pushes Tiffany Dell out of his way. 622 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,360 Will goes on ahead of a brown and menu, but poor Tiff's got to 623 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,200 wait and rejoin and he'll be practically last when he does 624 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,880 so. Oh, and Will's not going to be 625 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,200 very popular for that. I was visited by the Archangel 626 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,880 Hoi, said Tiff after the race. I'm afraid I was the offender 627 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,320 this time, said Will. Tiff soon pitted and called it a 628 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,120 day. Adam Wilho is being very honest 629 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,200 and upfront about his role in this one. 630 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,120 Can you blame him? I felt like he had no other 631 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:52,880 option. Probably. 632 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,320 Looking at, yeah, as of all the excuses and of all the things 633 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,520 that we've heard from all the drivers, even the ones that try 634 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,560 and blame it on a racing incident, it was such an I'll 635 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,960 timed manoeuvre that even he couldn't say it was a racing 636 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,400 incident, you know, and he's super experienced as well. 637 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,679 You just feel like a disappointed parent, don't you? 638 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,320 Look back at the punches, you're thinking, well, what was you 639 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,480 doing? I mean, I'm not angry, I'm just 640 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,199 disappointed. It's just one of those. 641 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,440 But he got his nose at the inside. 642 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,560 And again, you have to be, you have to have your nose sort of 643 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,159 at the inside of the the rear quarter panel as you're going 644 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:30,280 down the dip and up the hill before you then lunge because 645 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,760 the other car knows that you're there. 646 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,280 They can't really turn in now at this point. 647 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,400 So the laughing around the middle of Druids to sort of give 648 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,120 you the space. But he's tried the manoeuvre 649 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,400 from from way back and you can just see that the time they 650 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,120 actually turn into the corner, he's then just, he's then also 651 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,600 locked up because he's realized and panicked, like I'm not going 652 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,000 to slow this down enough. And as you get to the top of 653 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,920 Druids, it sort of flattens out. So you've got all that 654 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,520 compression, it's so steep. So you can brake so late. 655 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,520 That's what people don't realize. 656 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,120 You brake so late today, like you're barely breaking really 657 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,680 down a couple of gears. So you don't have that braking 658 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,160 distance to launch it at the inside of someone and, and have 659 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,400 the space to do it. And that's where you have to be 660 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,960 partially and nose at the inside of them as you're coming out of 661 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,920 the first corner down the dip. But you can just say that he's 662 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,960 just, he's just quite completely wrong. 663 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,520 And then he locked up and hit him as well. 664 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,360 And it was just a disaster. But yeah, he couldn't, you know, 665 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,000 he had to hold his hands if he couldn't do any more. 666 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,360 You can't start saying that's a racing incident because he was 667 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,840 so blatant that I don't think he was. 668 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,200 He wasn't deliberate. He was just so blatantly a bad, 669 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,480 bad call. He just made a bad call. 670 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,360 I don't know what Will had for breakfast, but he was a 671 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,240 different beast on race status this race meeting because it was 672 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:45,360 quick in a. Straight line as well. 673 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,240 There was a few people that, yeah, but there was a few people 674 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:51,840 he had run insurance with and he sort of had bits of contact 675 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,800 with. It was a very Will Hoy like 676 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,320 performance. Yeah, he was. 677 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,000 And that's what I mean, it was like such a gentleman and but he 678 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,440 was a tough racer. But he sort of he was just one 679 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,160 of those days where he must have just drove home and just thought 680 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,440 I've had an absolute. You don't want to forget about 681 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,320 it because it's just uncharacteristic of him. 682 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,880 But but when he watched the footage, I mean, the car was 683 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,320 quick, you know, he was quick. He was good down the down the 684 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,080 straights as well. Had a strong engine in it. 685 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,880 And but yeah, you just desperate, desperate measures 686 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,040 really to try and get past. But it's tough. 687 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,880 But I guess some of it was with one race per weekend as well, 688 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,640 you didn't have the chance to be a little bit reserved. 689 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,000 You had to go for. It that's. 690 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,280 True, it's not like you. Oh, I've gained 10 places. 691 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,440 I'll settle for this or reverse grid or yeah you know, I've got 692 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,680 bagged a load of points. I'm now, you know, I'm now sick 693 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,720 for whatever and then I can then start the second race in that 694 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:43,760 position and then I'll just try and do the same again. 695 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,440 You one race, you've done all that practice, all that 696 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,720 qualifying for over 3 days for that one race. 697 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:53,720 So you know, you, you, you don't get the chances that you get now 698 00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:57,120 we've reversed grades three races in the day. 699 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,880 You know, we spoke about two races, but obviously then we've 700 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,600 increased it to three. So you have to remember that 701 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,320 that time back then wasn't like it is now. 702 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,680 Completely different era. Rather, such continued on his 703 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,040 relentless pace at the front, chased by Rouse and the 704 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,560 seemingly attached Gravit and Sopa. 705 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,240 Greg. It's only fair to know at this 706 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,640 point that this is a really strong performance from the 707 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,720 Peugeot in the hands of Rob Gravit, isn't it? 708 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,200 Yeah, I think we've already mentioned this was was this the 709 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,840 breakthrough moment for Peugeot? You really we all hoped it was. 710 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,800 Again, it was another one of those folks false dawns. 711 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,440 Even sitting watching the highlights again, I was sort of 712 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,640 sitting there willing gravity to get on and win. 713 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,040 Yeah, please. Come on, Rob, let's get a 714 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,360 Peugeot win in that. But it's like another one of 715 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,680 those moments where it's just flattered to deceive because we 716 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,240 it didn't happen again. So yeah, frustrating, but it was 717 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,720 really good to see them up front. 718 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,680 Leslie and Vinkelhock were both charging and by lap 13 were back 719 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,840 up into 11th and 15th places. Leslie's progress ended there, 720 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,840 however, as more contact put him off the track at Clearways and 721 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,920 teammate Harry Nussell collected him. 722 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,840 Out of Clark Kerb at 90 miles an hour into the top straight and 723 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,040 two Vauxhall go up and their teammates, the Akuri accost 724 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,520 team, David Leslie, Harry Nuttall. 725 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,320 Well, Nuttall stops. Leslie goes on and Harry Nuttall 726 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,960 seems to be a bit put out about that. 727 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,280 Not surprising really. And he stomps off behind the ARM 728 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,920 code of safety. Leslie dropped down to 19th and 729 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,840 Nuttall was out, his car heavily damaged. 730 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,600 I was on the pace again and I'm sure I would have got a points 731 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,040 finish again, Nuttall told Auto Sport after the race. 732 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,840 The Curia cost misery was complete on the next lap when 733 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,320 Goodwin, who ran an excellent 10th, made a move down the 734 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,480 inside of menu into Druids. It didn't work, the pair touched 735 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,080 and Goodwin was left with a flat tyre and a broken track rod. 736 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,080 Alex, Another weekend for lots of promise for a Curia cost. 737 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,680 And much like a lot of these weekends that they had promise 738 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,360 on in 1993, it ended in disappointment for them, didn't 739 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,480 it? Yeah, it did. 740 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,600 I think this was David's third or fourth pole position of the 741 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:19,000 season, and he had yet to convert any of those into a win. 742 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,720 Closest he got was at Pembrey when he was leading comfortably 743 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,600 and then a car failure put him out again. 744 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,440 Yeah, it's just incidents in this race, as we've already 745 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,000 discussed with Winkle Hawk, and then it was another incident 746 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,760 that put him wide and he's come back on track and he's been 747 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,880 collected by Harry Nuttall, who is his teammate of all people. 748 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,840 For him to sort of run into. Harry was doing well. 749 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,680 I found his reaction quite funny. 750 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,080 Just I was in the air. When he got out of the car and 751 00:39:55,080 --> 00:40:00,160 he just started waving his arms and then, yeah, as you say, 752 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,320 Chris Goodwin, who was in the third car. 753 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:09,400 For the weekend was running 10th instantly menu yeah OK it didn't 754 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:15,440 come off the shame but yeah the a curia cost the car clearly had 755 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,560 pace and was clearly one of the front runners, but they just 756 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,440 weren't getting enough out of it through one reason or another so 757 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,240 but better to be that way than than slow and not being able to 758 00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:31,360 get anything at all I guess but. And all started from a bad 759 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,400 start. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 760 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,720 Or from a bad start. Yeah, if if Leslie had LED into 761 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:39,240 the first corner, as you say, Adam, that probably would have 762 00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:40,240 been it. Yeah. 763 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,720 It was hotting up at the front too as Gravett continued his 764 00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:48,000 strong showing and took second place from Andy Rouse. 765 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,240 Gravett made his move up to Druids and emerged in second. 766 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,040 Super also took advantage and pulled alongside Rouse through 767 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,520 Graham Hill and secured third position at Cersei's. 768 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,320 Peugeot must be delighted with their work because Rob's staying 769 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,000 ahead of the BMW. In fact, he's trying for 2nd 770 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,800 place. He's not only trying, he's 771 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,240 taking it. Cast Andy Rouse and no contact. 772 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,680 Brilliant. Meanwhile, through all of this, 773 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,640 Odor and Hoy latched onto the back of the leading group. 774 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,560 Adam, Is this one of the closest touring car races you've ever 775 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,440 seen? Completely there's been so many, 776 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,920 obviously, that we've discussed and we've witnessed and we've 777 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,720 been there and the and This is why we love it. 778 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,200 You know, This is why we love it because it, it's just real race, 779 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,840 isn't it? And the cars are so competitive 780 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,800 and the racing is close. And, and again, This is why 781 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,240 brands will always be on the calendar for me, because and on 782 00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:47,160 the indie circuit, you know, such a small circuit, it just 783 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,000 creates that type of atmosphere where you just know it's going 784 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,320 to be close racing. And you'd, like I said before, 785 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,800 you'd sometimes you, you, you can, some people can do a 786 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,920 desperate move because they're just trying to everything to get 787 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,200 past. And you get so little chances to 788 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,520 do that around there. And that's why it's always a 789 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,520 spectacle of brands. And I think that's why you get 790 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,440 the big crowds in all weathers. You know, everybody wants to see 791 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,400 touring cars around brands because it is so competitive. 792 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,880 But yeah, it doesn't get much closer than that race. 793 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,280 And, you know, when I watch the footage back, it just reminds 794 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:26,400 you just, again, another great bit of touring car racing that 795 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,720 we used to witness there. And it just reminds you why we 796 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,920 do this, because it was just bloody brilliant. 797 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,120 Yeah, yeah. That, that clip of Murray 798 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,840 commentating and he lists off the names one after the other 799 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,320 and they are literally right behind each other. 800 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,600 It is a six car snake and they're all, and I think the the 801 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,880 extra thing to add is they're all different manufacturers. 802 00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:51,200 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's incredible. 803 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:58,040 You've got Ford, Peugeot, BMW, Nissan, And who's the Toyota 804 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,000 with Will Hoy? Yes, the battering ram. 805 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,040 Can you imagine how how great that was as a commentator? 806 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,040 Yeah, exactly. It's brilliant because. 807 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,560 It's almost like, you know, every race it's going to kick 808 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,800 off, you know it's going to be a spectacle. 809 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,600 It's not. They haven't got to think of 810 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,440 anything to say because it's all, there's so much happening 811 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,200 at one time. It's like, oh, he's done this 812 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,920 and he's done that all. He's gone off there. 813 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,680 Oh my God. Sometimes you see Murray just 814 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,520 having a bit of a meltdown at time because you don't know 815 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,680 where to look. Yeah, but compared to like, 816 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:29,480 obviously Formula One, where they're longer races and they're 817 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,080 not that close to each other like touring cars, it's absolute 818 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,760 chalk and cheese. So he must have absolutely loved 819 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,960 it. Yeah, Murray probably came in on 820 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,080 the Tuesday or Wednesday, whenever they were recorded at 821 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,920 the HP and watched the race and fought. 822 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,720 Oh, yeah. OK, This this one's bad. 823 00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:46,600 This one's good. This'll. 824 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,440 Do Yeah, yeah, I'll do this one. This will be a blinder, yeah. 825 00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:52,760 He did have this down as one of his favorite touring car races 826 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,200 actually on. But he did. 827 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,640 On Murray's Motorsport Spectacular, I don't know if 828 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,960 anyone remembers that VHS. I'm sure lots of people. 829 00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:04,280 Oh yes, and he had this race down as one of his favorite 830 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,600 editorian car races and, and we can see why. 831 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,480 Yes, he can't help but love the whole Spectacle Canyon from a 832 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,840 from a commentator to a fan to a driver, it's just got 833 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,600 everything. Yeah, and Murray was the right. 834 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,080 The rest was He's just a fan, wasn't he? 835 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,720 Yeah. As the 6th battled up from 836 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,680 Vinkel, Hock was making a miracle recovery and was closing 837 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,080 in on them in 7th position, setting lap records in the 838 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,280 process. Greg, he was up and down the 839 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,400 road, sort of like a yo-yo, but this was some drive from Smoke 840 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,880 and Joe, wasn't it? Yeah, I think Smoking Joe was 841 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,200 one nickname. Yo-yo Joe was another, you know, 842 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,120 96. Yes. 843 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,080 Yeah, it was a prelude to what we were going to see. 844 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,520 And I think this was Joe through and through some, you know, 845 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,200 super blindingly quick, sometimes erratic. 846 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,720 You never knew what you were quite going to get from Joe. 847 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,680 I think probably the the car was quite grateful there was only 848 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,560 one race that that day, because I'm sure he got one hell of a 849 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,040 thrashing. He was absolutely on the ragged 850 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,320 edge a lot to really make those gaps up. 851 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,200 On lap 25, Ador and Hoy both pushed themselves past Andy 852 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,680 Rouse and dropped them on day down the order, Rouse explained 853 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,200 after the race. I locked up a rear tyre at 854 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,760 Paddock which slowed me. Keith got past and will manage 855 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,080 to follow him through. It was now all up for gravs as 856 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,960 gravit and sopa were right on Radissitch's tail. 857 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,920 And at 30s look at this first, second, third, 4th, 5th as fast 858 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,160 as I can say it in five different makes Port Peugeot, 859 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,880 BMW, Nissan, Toyota where win the Toyota Wilhoi 5th place 860 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,240 Keith O'door ahead in the black Nissan is 4th. 861 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,280 That's the end of another lap and they are nose to. 862 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,920 Tail five different makes in the top five. 863 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,760 It's all covered by just over a second. 864 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,040 Alex, this race is absolutely bonkers, isn't it? 865 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,200 We've touched on it before, but I think it's hard for us to put 866 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,920 into words how close and competitive this race was. 867 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,360 Yeah, anyone who hasn't seen this race before or needs a 868 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,440 reminder of this race, get on to the 1993 season review and watch 869 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,920 it because they do show a lot of this race and it's brilliant. 870 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,320 As I said just a couple of minutes ago, you know, five 871 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,440 different manufacturers in the top five, all covered by two 872 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,720 seconds Max. It's just brilliant. 873 00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:33,760 And they're all top touring car drivers as well. 874 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,920 They're all at the top of this sport. 875 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:41,600 It's it's a brilliant watch and it's pretty clean as well. 876 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,520 In fairness, I have to say that I know we've had the odds 877 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,480 incident here and there, but generally it was a clean race as 878 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,320 well. You know, we we'll, we've not 879 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,760 got on to that yet. But Sopas, move on Rouse, Sorry, 880 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,240 Gravitz, move on Rouse. We'll talk about it in a bit. 881 00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:07,960 I'm sure was superb, absolutely superb. 882 00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:11,280 And as Murray said in the commentary, and no contact, 883 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,560 Brilliant. But but if you used to meet 884 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,480 somebody tomorrow who knew nothing about motorsport 885 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,320 whatsoever and you're trying to describe touring car races into 886 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,000 them, you'd say right? Watch Brands 93. 887 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,440 Yeah, this would be one of the races you'd. 888 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,400 Show you'd say nothing. You just say watch Brands 93 and 889 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,680 that will tell you what touring car is. 890 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,600 Yeah, bit like the M25 on a rush hour. 891 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,440 Yeah, it was. Yeah, there's always someone in 892 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:43,880 a Sierra holding you. On lap 30, Vinkelhock dived 893 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,880 inside Rouse at Paddock for 6th, but Rouse wasn't giving up. 894 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,000 He was faster out of clearways and grabbed the place back up. 895 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,640 The straight. Smokin Joe was right on his tail 896 00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:57,760 but suddenly he was out of contention. 897 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,080 The BMW went straight on at Graham Hill with a front tyre 898 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,600 flat after he sworn it right through by locking up under 899 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,760 breaking. He pitted and rejoined but 900 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:14,480 finished only 21st. Adam ultimately a disappointing 901 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,240 and Joe's roller coaster of a race there. 902 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,240 It is, and this is what we said before, that you can have a 903 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:24,040 really joyous race if you're at the front and it's all clean and 904 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,760 you're not involved in anything. But if you're all of a sudden, 905 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,320 you know, 1/4 of the way down the grid or halfway down the 906 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,960 grid, you can get into such drama and bother where it's 907 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,040 kicking off in front of you, it's kicking off next to you, 908 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,520 it's kicking off behind you. And then he just had one of 909 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,840 those races where he was involved in a bit of everything, 910 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,280 really. And it just sort of just 911 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,120 somebody's race up, to be honest. 912 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,280 And again, I think you'd be one of them. 913 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,240 We'll just be glad to drive home and just think I've had them 914 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,640 there. That's a nightmare of a day. 915 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,400 And I'm glad to get home because it can go. 916 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,520 It can go like that very, very easily. 917 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,680 You know, he's one of the fastest cars out there, one of 918 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,880 the fastest drivers out there. But it just shows you how things 919 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,760 can change. The hole he put in the tire was 920 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,480 the Crucible. Yeah. 921 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,400 No, it's bizarre, isn't it? The actual hole he put in the 922 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,640 tire was. It must have been one hell of a 923 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:15,640 lock up. Yeah. 924 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,600 Yeah, he's looking to get it back to the pits because. 925 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,560 Yeah, yeah, that. Would have destroyed the front 926 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,440 wing, the whale and everything. But yeah, bizarre 1. 927 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,720 Drama at the front, meanwhile, was getting complicated as the 928 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:31,840 leaders came up to lap Bob Berridge and Dave Pinckney. 929 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,480 And the leaders now are coming up to lap. 930 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,200 Bob Berridge is Sierra and David Pinckney BMW. 931 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,920 Ready Siege is flashing his lights because the lead could 932 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,400 change here. He's got Rob Gravit on his boot 933 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,280 lid and he's got Sofa on his boot lid. 934 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,320 Now. If Barrage and Pinckney don't 935 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,400 move over and let the leaders through, we can certainly get a 936 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,520 change because Rob Gravit can see his opportunity to get past 937 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,200 Ready Siege. Sofa can see his opportunity to 938 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,680 get past Rob Gravit. Anything could happen up to 30s. 939 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,480 On to clear ways. Randisich got through cleanly 940 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,200 while Super grabbed his chance and muscled by into second. 941 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,560 It wasn't the cleanest of moves on. 942 00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:16,040 Cram it there. Greg, What do you think about 943 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,680 this incident? Yeah, I think the term muscled 944 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,200 is probably the right one. It was, I think we've seen him 945 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,280 given before, but I think he was a little bit too, too robust and 946 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,800 probably the right result in the end with the with the penalty 947 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,400 that he got. But yeah, I think as a racing 948 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,800 driver, you, you see a chance, you see a gap, you go for it. 949 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,800 He made a gap there that didn't he? 950 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:45,280 Yes, like as drivers go, I mean they don't come much tougher 951 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,160 than what Steve Soap was made out of, like some manoeuvres and 952 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,520 hard race and he was super quick. 953 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:56,800 Like he didn't care like he was, he was as tough as it gets. 954 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,040 But yeah, you look at that, he that was like a can opener 955 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,000 maneuver that yeah, that was worse than Mr. Reed, wasn't it? 956 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,600 I was about to say the can opener that's. 957 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:13,720 Yeah, that manoeuvre there completely was, how Mr. Reed 958 00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:17,960 describes it, Anthony himself. That was a can opener maneuver 959 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,920 like that. Gap was not even there. 960 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,080 Bulbs blocking got him excluded for careless driving, although 961 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,280 it was good to see that the venerable Sierra Sapphire was 962 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,600 much closer to the pace. Adam, the right call for bearish 963 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,880 there on the exclusion. Yeah, you know, you, it's a 964 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,400 tough one. When you come across Batmark is 965 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,240 because your heart sinks. You know, when you when you're 966 00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:43,760 at the front and you come across a Batmark, you're thinking you 967 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,600 best have seen me, you best have seen me. 968 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,320 Because sometimes they can be in their own race, you know, 969 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,920 they're having their own rice. And I've I've had this in all 970 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,280 categories where they're having their own rice. 971 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,720 Yeah, if you look back, you can see that Beverage is actually in 972 00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:02,920 a battle with Pinckney as well. So they're battling it out, too. 973 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,920 So have they seen us? Have they seen the leaders? 974 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:06,960 You just don't. No deal. 975 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,520 I think the irony of the whole thing was the beverage car was 976 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:15,960 actually a Andy Rouse built car. Back in. 1990 See the fact one 977 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,320 of his cars ended up being quite influential in making sure they 978 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,320 got their 200th win in the first of the Monday was probably 979 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,640 probably not in the script at the start of the day. 980 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,120 Yeah. And who'd have known when he 981 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,160 built the car what it was going to do exactly? 982 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,040 The stewards also decided to penalize Super for his move on 983 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,480 Gravett, switching the result so Gravett finished second ahead of 984 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,800 Super and 3rd Alex. Do you think that was a fair 985 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,640 decision on that one there from the stewards? 986 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:52,040 Yeah, as we, as we alluded to just now, umm, it was a bit too 987 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,640 robust. There wasn't really, I mean, 988 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,400 Steve didn't really have a nose at the inside at all. 989 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:02,600 It was, it was umm, he sort of bludgeoned his way past umm, uh, 990 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,880 and if you look at uh, later on after the incident, you look at 991 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,720 the door of the Persia and it's, it's proper caved in like it 992 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,800 was. Yeah, it was, it was a really 993 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,600 hard wallop He gave, he gave the, the 405. 994 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,920 Yeah. I did think it was a bit of a 995 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:26,800 can open a moment, but but a bit too extreme as you say, throwing 996 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,160 the can at the wall rather than, you know, gently opening the 997 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,360 can. I think it was a it was a cango 998 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,200 hammer moment. I. 999 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,200 Think. But with clear waves, because 1000 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,720 there's no massive curb on the inside, it invites you to put 1001 00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:42,000 two wheels on the grass if you need to. 1002 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,120 So it gives you the space to do that. 1003 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,240 So even if you're defending and you're literally nearly on the 1004 00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:50,920 white line, you're always never going to be as far over. 1005 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,280 So it's almost like you need to get your own car onto the onto 1006 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,680 the grass a little bit to stop the likes of that happening. 1007 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,800 But he would never have expected Steve to do that. 1008 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,160 Well, it was such a big hit because the BMW stepped out and 1009 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,440 then the back end of it gave him a, gave him, gave him A and he. 1010 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,920 But Steve kept his foot in there. 1011 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,440 He wasn't. Going to speed because. 1012 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,720 He had, he had Rob's car to lean on all the way through, hence 1013 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,440 hence the amount, the damage down the side of it. 1014 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,680 But yeah, that was too tough a manoeuvre to get away with that 1015 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,160 one. Paul Ratasich, meanwhile, took 1016 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,880 Ford's 200th BTCC win after wrapping up the victory. 1017 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,000 I just had enough on the straights to Ford powers, just 1018 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,880 enough to keep the future and the BMW at Bay. 1019 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,320 And they gave me a bit of breather and it was concentrated 1020 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,040 through the corners and just sort of instead of trying to 1021 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,200 pull away, I just kept it in front of them and drive a ski 1022 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,880 race. Words just can't say how I feel. 1023 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,400 It's terrific for Ford, thanks to Andy Rouse. 1024 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,200 I mean, one day I was here to stay. 1025 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,120 Ford's definitely back and I'm looking forward to the next win. 1026 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,760 Greg The Blue Oval very famous for its touring car success over 1027 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,640 the years, but this is quite an achievement at the time for 1028 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,720 them, especially with a brand new car, wasn't it? 1029 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,240 Yeah, I think, you know, a stalwart of the championship, 1030 00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:09,480 you know, food, food, many eras, Lotus Cortinas, Galaxies, than 1031 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,640 the glory days of the RS5 hundreds. 1032 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,640 Where was the dominant winning car? 1033 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,440 They went through that period of a little bit of a doldrum, and 1034 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,520 then the Mondeo came along and they really made a big thing of 1035 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,200 it. I remember they did a fantastic 1036 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,480 poster where they had a picture of every single car and the 1037 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,400 obviously the Mondeo number #200 I think I've probably still got 1038 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,440 a copy of it somewhere, but it was a a real walk through 1039 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:34,920 history. But yeah, they really made a 1040 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,240 big, big thing of it with their world car and so forth. 1041 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:40,760 So yeah, I think a major milestone for them. 1042 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,880 Yeah, the Ford Mondeo was the first global car, wasn't it, 1043 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,520 that they produced that had been released literally worldwide. 1044 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:52,480 And that was the big part of the the BTCC program was to because 1045 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,480 the Sierra, the the the motorsport program transformed 1046 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,440 the image of the Sierra. And I'm sure they were hoping 1047 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,080 that they would do same with the Mondeo. 1048 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:06,400 So, yeah, to to come in and be successful in only a sixth race 1049 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,800 against the might of Schnitzer and BMW is it is extremely 1050 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,080 impressive from, from Ralph Sport. 1051 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:13,800 Yeah. Fair play. 1052 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,080 I think it still amazes me as well when you look at the 93 1053 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,280 Championship table and all the races they missed and he still 1054 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,760 finished third in the championship. 1055 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,680 Yes, very. Important. 1056 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,800 It was like it was such a run at the end of the season, it was 1057 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:40,160 quite unbelievable. Just settled on one of the best 1058 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,080 touring car races ever at the time and certainly the most 1059 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:49,520 exciting race of 1993. The BTCC had found a new hero, 1060 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,000 with Paul Radisich taking his first ever BTCC victory. 1061 00:56:54,280 --> 00:57:00,200 Isn't it a shame that Paul didn't do more because as as you 1062 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,440 say, the BTCC had found a new hero? 1063 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:07,240 This guy was blindingly quick come over, raced a front wheel 1064 00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:10,280 drive car for the first time and after six races had won a race. 1065 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,880 And if you were to say at this point that he was only ever 1066 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,320 going to win five more races in the series, you wouldn't you 1067 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,280 wouldn't believe it. I know he was world champion in 1068 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:26,440 the Ford as well, but you've just, you would look back and 1069 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,240 think, I so wish you'd done more because you're such a likable 1070 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,840 chap as well. Yeah, I mean, imagine saying at 1071 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,480 the start of 94 he's not going to win a championship and he's 1072 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,000 he's going to win a handful of races. 1073 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,520 He probably would have made. I mean, August 93 probably would 1074 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,320 have gone. OK, that sounds a bit weird, but 1075 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,880 especially by the start of 94, not that world championship, 1076 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,640 World Cup win. Yeah, he was a star at the time, 1077 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,360 wasn't he? Yeah, it's, it's a real, real 1078 00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:57,440 what if scenario for me that if, if Paul had found himself in in 1079 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,840 good cars, I think he would have definitely won, won, won a 1080 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,200 championship. Yeah, I think his loyalty to 1081 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,000 Ford is very honourable, but some of the absolute dogs that 1082 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,120 he got to drive the 90. 6. Car. 1083 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,320 And went on to Peugeot and yeah, it was just such a waste of a 1084 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,400 talent. Absolutely, Yeah. 1085 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,400 Yeah. Devastating actually. 1086 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,560 You think, oh, I just wish I'd like to have seen him in like a 1087 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,960 97 Laguna or 99 and Nissan just to see what he would have been 1088 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,680 like. And I no doubt he'd have been 1089 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,600 right up the front fighting for the championship. 1090 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,840 I'd like to thank Greg Denton for joining us once again to 1091 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,000 look back at this race and we hope that we'll see you on Story 1092 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,720 Some Super Touring again soon, Greg. 1093 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,520 Yeah, again, thank you for having me this time. 1094 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,160 What I really love is that we keep on unearthing these gems of 1095 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,080 races. It wasn't on my list of top 1096 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,640 races, but now God what a brilliant race this was. 1097 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,880 That's exactly it, isn't it? Because everyone talks about the 1098 00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:01,760 the obvious ones, Donnington 98, Donnington 99, Silverstone 92, 1099 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:07,480 but there are some real hidden gems amongst and a lot of them 1100 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,840 are Brands Hatch. Actually one of my favorites is 1101 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,680 brands 98. One of my favorite toy car races 1102 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,840 that isn't so well known. And this is a absolutely Corkin 1103 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,400 race. And our thanks, as ever go to 1104 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,040 you guys for listening to the show. 1105 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,360 And if you enjoyed today's episode, please make sure to 1106 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,120 give us the review five star rating and subscribe to the 1107 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,720 podcast feed on your podcast app of choice. 1108 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,680 In the meantime, we'll see you next week. 1109 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:34,640 Goodbye.