1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:18,100 Stories from Super Touring. Hello and welcome to this week's 2 00:00:18,100 --> 00:00:20,820 episode of Stories from Super Touring. 3 00:00:21,420 --> 00:00:25,020 Now in this week's episode, it's a little special that came from 4 00:00:25,020 --> 00:00:29,380 Goodwood at the recent members meeting, which featured a very, 5 00:00:29,380 --> 00:00:33,260 very special field of over 40 Super Tours. 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,760 Now, despite it being a packed weekend, we did manage to get a 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,840 few interviews in and here are a few of the best of them. 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:47,000 We hope you enjoy. John Clellon, I'm at Goodwood 9 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,920 Members meeting with you. It's quite a special occasion 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,440 this especially for fans of Super Touring like ourselves and 11 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,120 all our watch our listeners. Yeah, I mean, I don't exactly 12 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,880 know how many, but there must be 40 odd Super Tours here and a 13 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:07,720 good mix across from Vauxhall's, Alfa Romeos, Peugeots, the whole 14 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,080 lot. They're all here. 15 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,600 Not all are running. There's probably about 12 that 16 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,080 are running. And the trouble with that is 17 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,360 that these cars are now getting on about, they're getting on. 18 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:25,600 They're 2528 years old and they take about a looking after. 19 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:28,600 So if you go out and blow something up. 20 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:32,560 But if you like Anthony Reed drive it, then it'll break. 21 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,000 So talking about that, you obviously own your own super 22 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,040 tour here. How did that first come about? 23 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:49,560 My youngest son Jamie found it on Facebook and he said that's 24 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:55,720 her car, it's your car, it's chassis #1 and we should buy it. 25 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,400 Well, I'm not sure why we should buy it. 26 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,680 What do we do? Well, they're, they're running a 27 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,680 series for these super Tours again. 28 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,480 All right, OK, fine. So we went down and looked at 29 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:12,280 it, but it was a bit more to the story because this car went out 30 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,000 when batters fell out with each other and there were no V 31 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,440 eights. There were two litre cars for 32 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,320 like 2 years. This car went out. 33 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,680 Derek Warwick drove it with the Grand Prix, the Australian Grand 34 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,760 Prix deckaling along with a guy called Peter Brock. 35 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,520 Brockie and I had shared the car in 1992 or something later, but 36 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,640 I can't remember when it was. Now he drove this car in 37 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:46,040 qualifying. He rolled it coming through down 38 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:52,280 the hangers, down the the the long straight up batter and he 39 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,480 rolled it into the chase, rolled over, put a dent in the roof, 40 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,320 got the car back together, did the race, but there's still a 41 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,920 dent inside that roof. Oh wow. 42 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,840 And the guy I bought it from had no idea what that was about. 43 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,480 So that guaranteed to me, because you can put a chassis 44 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,960 plate on anything. I knew this car. 45 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,960 I knew certain little bits about it, but I definitely knew about 46 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,200 the kink inside the the roof skin. 47 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:26,080 So it's my car that's 197. And this is the first time 48 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,560 you've been out in it for a while, isn't it? 49 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,800 Four years. How was it getting back into it? 50 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,560 Was it like wearing an old shoe again? 51 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,120 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I, I haven't sat 52 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,000 in a car of any sort for the last four years. 53 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,160 We've just been too busy at work. 54 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:46,440 And it was literally fired up, pulled the crash arm on and went 55 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,320 out and it just felt like it's always done. 56 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,480 It's really, really nice. Yeah. 57 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,320 And we saw you out there in practise, and it didn't take 58 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,040 long for you and Steve to become acquainted with each other 59 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:58,520 again. Now. 60 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,320 We all know you're all great friends again now, but that must 61 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,040 have been a hell of a feeling for you to suddenly be back 62 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,920 wheel to wheel with one of your old sparring partners from from 63 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:10,720 the from. The hero. 64 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,240 We're not. We're not trying to win a world 65 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,960 championship. Yeah, we're just demoing cars. 66 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,200 And to be fair, Steve's never driven that Peugeot either. 67 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,000 No, my car, I know it. You're right. 68 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,080 It's like a glove. You just, it just fits 69 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:30,520 perfectly. But four years away and I'm four 70 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,080 years older. Me. 71 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,080 You just got to work a bit harder at it. 72 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,160 So what are you hoping for from the weekend in this car? 73 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,440 Is it just a bit of fun? It's. 74 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:41,960 Just fun. Yeah, it's absolutely a bit of 75 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,040 fun and I think it's great that Goodwood have have brought this 76 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,040 together and brought as many cars out of the woodwork. 77 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:51,640 There's a lot on static display, I get that. 78 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,040 But the number of people that have come up to me in the last 79 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,960 two days and said fantastic to see these cars. 80 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:02,960 I remember it. I was a massive touring car fan 81 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,320 in in the period I think people know here. 82 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,360 At Goodwood. There may be more than looking 83 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,480 at old E types and some of them all things. 84 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:20,600 I think what we're looking at now is the likes of that becomes 85 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,120 people recognise it, it will mean more to them. 86 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,960 So I, I think that's, that's the good part. 87 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,240 Must give you a buzz as well with all these people coming up 88 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,880 to you still recognising you. Rubbish my ego up really nicely. 89 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,840 But no, it's it's great. And I mean, you were fantastic 90 00:05:40,840 --> 00:05:41,800 times. They were. 91 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,760 We're talking about an era where there were more of us being paid 92 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,160 to drive touring cars. The Formula One drivers were 93 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,680 being paid to drive Formula One cars. 94 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:58,200 And you know, we probably didn't appreciate just what we had, how 95 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,800 good it was. And the budgets were absolutely 96 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,760 enormous. And we would life every 97 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,600 component on the car. I mean, some components would do 98 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,880 a practise session, then qualifying session, and you 99 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,760 would change your engines and gearboxes. 100 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,760 And that's why though, you've got to be really careful how 101 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,920 long you run them now and how often you run them. 102 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,920 Because if they need replacement parts or if we break a part, 103 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,120 you've got to really re, you've got to reverse engineer it 104 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,360 because you can't go down and buy one off the shelf somewhere. 105 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,280 No, we, we've spoken to owners and they've said you want to go 106 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:40,200 and buy a part and they say OK, we'll do you 20. 107 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,600 And he's like, I only want one and you can't afford it, you 108 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,960 know, and there's no way you're going to go through 20 so. 109 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,640 I, I was lucky. I had a, I had a really good guy 110 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,440 who was, we give him some components and he milled. 111 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:57,280 Them out of. Cabin cabin just for us to check 112 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:00,160 them and Yep, that's fine. That bolts on great right. 113 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,840 Can we now make it properly? And he was. 114 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:04,880 Brilliant. And he made us quite a lot of 115 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,720 suspension parts. But then Jamie found a guy in 116 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,760 Sweden that had an old cinema completely full of Vectra 117 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:19,680 components from 96979899. And we walked into this 118 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,680 Aladdin's cave of bits and we bought an engine of them, we 119 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,720 bought a gearbox of them, bought suspension parts, all manner 120 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,520 thing. And we're walking through it and 121 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,560 he said do you want any doors? And Jamie said no, no, we've got 122 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,000 lots of doors. We make our own now. 123 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,640 Why? He says, oh, come and see this. 124 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,400 So we went out of back of the workshop and there was three 125 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:47,200 floors high of Vectra doors from all over and Jamie spied one 126 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:53,080 that was about 3 floors up and he said that's your Donington 98 127 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,680 door up there. I said you know that. 128 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:01,040 And up the the pillar on the side when we want to race there 129 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,920 was a Laurel went on it. So I said to the guy, I'll tell 130 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,160 you what we'll do. We need to agree the price of 131 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,720 the slot that's lying on the floor here. 132 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,400 If I climb up there and sign that door for you, I want some 133 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,240 discount off of a slot here which we agreed on. 134 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,960 Nice. So signing his door was worth a 135 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,440 significant number of Swedish SEC. 136 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,160 Ever the businessman. Correct. 137 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,960 Talking of 98 in Donnington, we've we've watched Donnington 138 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:34,159 98 with you very recently actually that for me, the zenith 139 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:37,200 of Super Reedy talks about Brands Hatch 98 where him and 140 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,679 Rydell came to blows as a zenith. 141 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,360 But for me, that race with Nigel and you and you winning and 142 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,040 coming out on top, that for me is peak Super Touring. 143 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:47,720 I'm I'm sure you'd probably. Agree. 144 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,680 It was. And you know Nigel, God bless 145 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:53,560 him, he drove that card really well. 146 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:56,680 Yeah, he drove it really well. In fact, we would discuss this 147 00:08:56,680 --> 00:08:59,360 at dinner last night. I was sitting at a table with 148 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,680 State Parish and Michael Rutter and a few others and Anthony was 149 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:08,240 there and Michael Rutter said something about what was Mansell 150 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,000 like when he came in and drove the four. 151 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,040 So actually he was, he was pretty good. 152 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,560 And Anthony said yeah, I beat him in that race at Donnington. 153 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,520 I said no, you didn't. You fell off, you ran out of 154 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:25,400 skill and fell off on your own and you blamed Nigel for it. 155 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,280 I said that was not to do, Nigel. 156 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,760 So that was the oldest, yes. Yeah, yeah. 157 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,000 Yeah, anyway, Nigel had the team been on the phone to me, it was 158 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,200 a wet race drying. And what you do is you play with 159 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,080 the bars, you play with the brake balance most importantly. 160 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,840 And the team went on the phone to Nigel saying change the brake 161 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,200 balance bit more to the front, bit more to the front and so on. 162 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,960 And he wouldn't know because he wasn't in a touring car every 163 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,880 every other week. And I could see when I was 164 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,000 catching him, it was just getting a bit more and a bit 165 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,720 more and a bit, and then he just outbreaked himself. 166 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,960 Yeah, and one final thing. We've had enough time with you 167 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,120 already taking enough of your time. 168 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,200 One other 4 driver that year that actually did go on a winner 169 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,400 race was your very good friend Will Hoy. 170 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,560 He would have loved an event like this, wouldn't? 171 00:10:15,560 --> 00:10:17,320 He, ah, Will would have been right up for this. 172 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:22,160 Will would have been, He'd have loved it and everything about 173 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,960 it. And, you know, he's just got 174 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:32,480 that that whole he was a party guy and Good was a party. 175 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:34,160 You know it's. It's it's about. 176 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,560 Enjoying your weekend, and there's a bit of recent thrown 177 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:41,560 in as well, by the way, but it's a party and that's how it works. 178 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,240 So Will would have just, you know, loved this place you. 179 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,120 Know John, as ever, thanks for all the time you give us and 180 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:49,920 thanks for bringing down the car. 181 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,840 I know it's a heck of a trip for you coming down all this way, 182 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,440 but it's great to see the Vectra in the flesh and great to see 183 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,800 you out on track with this. So thank you from all of. 184 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:58,800 Us. It's a pleasure. 185 00:10:59,120 --> 00:10:59,720 Thank. You. 186 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:05,400 Thank you. Hi there, Andrew, thanks for 187 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,920 joining us. Sparing some time out, your 188 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,960 probably very busy day running this beautiful BMW 3 Series. 189 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,520 Now we we spoke a bit back in brand sachet Supertorium power 190 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,240 three last year when you brought the car along. 191 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,760 So it's brilliant to have you back at Goodwood because we it's 192 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,320 kind of past you getting the car prepped, I presume for, for 193 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,240 qualifying later on. What goes into prepping a car of 194 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,040 this kind of quality and age for a weekend like this where it's 195 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,360 really being driven in anger in the shootout? 196 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,760 If I'm on it's not a huge amount. 197 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,720 This car does very little anyway so it's only really ever done 198 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,800 demonstrations and stuff. So when the owner brought the 199 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,200 car, we, we did a lot crack tested like key components, had 200 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,040 the engine rebuilt after that it really hasn't done much. 201 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,880 So for for this weekend, it was obviously a good check over. 202 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,200 But in terms of setup, we haven't done anything since we 203 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,520 initially set it up to a a works BMW setup sheet and and we've 204 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,240 just driven it from from that point. 205 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,760 So it's obviously great to have the car here. 206 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,160 You know, I believe it's the best history car here with the 207 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,240 garlands here, it's one Nurburgringer 95, Spa and Spa 24 208 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,960 hour 96 and Spa 24 hour 97. So I don't think they'll really 209 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,120 get any better than that. So. 210 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,000 It it doesn't, no. And as you say to to win those 211 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,640 illustrious races makes it a car with, as you say, probably great 212 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,760 history in some of the cars out here which you look around and 213 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,680 some of them have some pretty good history as well. 214 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:31,200 Don't. They yeah, there's some some 215 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,560 fantastic cars here. You know, obviously I, I can 216 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:36,960 look at the Rapid Fit Mondeos and and stuff like that. 217 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,240 I can relate and remember those. But for me, when we unloaded 218 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,120 this car and brought it here, this is like, this is the car 219 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,120 here. You just wouldn't see it these 220 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,320 days. The same car, the same chassis 221 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,840 winning all those races, you know, they're chopped and 222 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,040 changed different shells or complete new cars all the time 223 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,200 in, in, in this day and age. But back then they, they made 224 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,720 them work. And, and yeah, this is, I was 225 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,320 saying to, to one of our guys, this is probably the, one of the 226 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,680 favourite cars we've got in our workshop. 227 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,720 I, I could own this and not actually drive it and just 228 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,960 uncover it occasionally in the garage and go, yeah, that's 229 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,080 cool. And cover it back up. 230 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,400 You know, it's, it's one of those cars. 231 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,920 So really driving it, you know, I'm not driving it this weekend, 232 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,760 but I've driven it before. It needs more horsepower, feels 233 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,760 quite underpowered in in terms of moderate or current day race 234 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,000 cars, but it would be silly to start putting A2 and half litre 235 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,040 engine and stuff like that and just just run it as it is. 236 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,680 Yeah, absolutely. And and I guess it as you say, 237 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:32,840 you know, you're very experienced with running 238 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,240 historic cars and car store generations. 239 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,320 What what she makes this car such a success, especially in in 240 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,800 a category where everyone was spending so much money getting 241 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,200 their cars to a high level of preparation. 242 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,360 You can really see the money that's spent on these cars when 243 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,080 we when we stripped it, just all the carbon duct in and stuff, 244 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,200 you can tell it was manufacturer budget. 245 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,240 You know, every, every little bit there's some really quite 246 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,400 simple things, you know, like the, the door lights are about 247 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,040 as simple as you'll get, but it's almost as high as I feel 248 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,400 that it's simple in areas, but purposeful. 249 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,520 And then there's other areas like the suspension and all the 250 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,480 suspension arms and the, the machining on stuff like that and 251 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,840 all the carbon work under the front shows you, it's 252 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,160 manufacturer funded in the day. So it's quite interesting 253 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,480 really. You know, when you look back and 254 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,120 it was touring cars during the endurance racing as well, again, 255 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,280 you'll never ever see that again. 256 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,600 They ran a slightly detuned engine and stuff. 257 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,720 But I was showing some of our guys yesterday, some of the 258 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,760 footage from those races, and you just look at the scale and 259 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,600 how many people are there. As I say, to have it with us is 260 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:35,680 something I'm I'm really proud of. 261 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,160 Andrew, thank you very much for sparing some of your time this 262 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,120 afternoon. Wish you every success for the 263 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,360 week and then the sheet out as well. 264 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:49,840 Thank you. Anthony, we're back here at 265 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,280 Goodwood. You're at Goodwood, you're at, 266 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,920 you're a mega star at Goodwood. You've worked here for many, 267 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,760 many years. This time you've got your Ford 268 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:02,960 Mondeo out from 2000, and we're being moved along here to get 269 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,640 away the we are. What an excellent way to be 270 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,560 moved. But this is a car that has been 271 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,640 well known to have a lot of issues running because they're 272 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,720 so trick and so sophisticated. How's it run today? 273 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,920 Well, it's the best I've experienced because, I mean, I 274 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,320 came to Goodwood, yeah, two or three years ago to drive it on 275 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,160 the hill. It never even made it out of the 276 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:24,840 paddock. Right. 277 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,680 So I did do a couple of laps testing at Lambda in Wales. 278 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,560 Yeah. And it seemed to go quite well 279 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,320 there, but I haven't driven it since. 280 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,040 And then we had problems this morning with the fueling, but 281 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,920 they've traced it to a faulty ignition switch. 282 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,360 So we'll we'll put on a decent show tomorrow. 283 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,720 Yeah, but I don't think we're going to win it, no. 284 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,520 Goodwood have put a special event on specifically for Super 285 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,920 Tours this weekend. Celebrate. 286 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,480 We've got a grid, but not a grid, but we've got a paddock of 287 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,080 about 4045 different Super Tours, some static, some 288 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,600 running. It's just brilliant for any fan 289 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,960 of the period of touring cars, isn't it? 290 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,640 I. Haven't seen a field like that 291 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,600 since the World Cup of pull. We can't. 292 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,720 And they must have had maybe 50 cars there. 293 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,800 Everything BMWs, Audi's, the lot, Fords and of course the 294 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,360 Vauxhall Vectra. Yeah, yes. 295 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:25,680 And I was on Team GB with John Clevers and but I've never seen 296 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,880 a field like today in 35 years, no. 297 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,280 No, it's wonderful, isn't it? And why do you think Super 298 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,760 Touring still has that pull even now, 30 years on? 299 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,800 Maybe for some of the years. Well, it, it was the cars, the 300 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,040 level of manufacturer involvement and of course big 301 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,960 names from touring cars plus the F1 drivers, you know, Paul 302 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,200 Ricard, we have Hans Stoop, for example. 303 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,520 I don't think Nigel Mansell was there on that occasion. 304 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,120 But other big names that have race in Formula One like 305 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,760 Emmanuelle Piro, the the exposure. 306 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,440 Yeah, Bernie was getting so annoyed with the success of 307 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,640 Super Touring he cancelled the TV coverage for Paul Ricard. 308 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:19,440 And if you speak to Barry, Barry Nutley who commentates here, he 309 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,400 was involved on the TV productions in period and he 310 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,280 said they used to check the numbers and British cheering 311 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,120 cars had more viewing viewership than F1. 312 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,440 Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's incredible, isn't it, the 313 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,480 uniqueness of the period. We normally see you out in your 314 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,040 Nissan in the last few years, maybe a Brands Hatch. 315 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,040 You're you're in the Mondeo today. 316 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,520 What what are the differences between between the two cars? 317 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,200 The, the Mondea is the quickest Supertur I've driven, 318 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,800 state-of-the-art, a Formula One car with mud guards. 319 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:56,480 It, it, you know, it was, had the most power. 320 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:01,000 It was the, the, the chassis dynamics was superb, but it 321 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,840 didn't quite suit my driving style. 322 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,160 It was edgy at the rear end, whereas the Nissan Primera 323 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,920 suited my driving style. It was, you know, had my DNA in 324 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,360 it and so that was my favourite car and I got the most success. 325 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,560 Eight wins and 11 pole positions, although one of the 326 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,600 wins was taken away for Ricard pumping into. 327 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,960 It yes, and one final we've we've taken enough of your time 328 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,400 already, Andy, but one final question is you've you've spent 329 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,840 the day on the track with many of your contemporaries. 330 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,720 John Cleland, Matt Neil, Steve Super. 331 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,320 It must be a real thrill to be out on track with with such 332 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,640 great names once again. Yeah. 333 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,080 Brings the memories flooding back. 334 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,680 Yeah. It's a real privilege. 335 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,040 Yeah. Because you're not likely to get 336 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,360 many of those scribers together again in the future all at the 337 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:50,760 same event. No. 338 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,600 I mean, the one notable absentee is probably Alan Menya. 339 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,920 I haven't seen him this weekend. No, he's not here. 340 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,040 No, sadly not. But yeah, that would be a great 341 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,760 addition. Lauren Tayano, I don't think. 342 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,680 He's here. No, not seeing Laurent, but but 343 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,760 no, Anthony, just thank you for keeping us entertained over all 344 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,680 these years and and, you know, keeping these cars going because 345 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,720 fans, our listeners, our watchers, they love it. 346 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,760 Thank you. I mean, if it weren't for people 347 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,120 like Alvin Powell, Yeah, or Richard Wheeler, a lot of these 348 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:22,920 cars wouldn't be here. Oh. 349 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:23,920 Exactly. Yeah, you're right. 350 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,320 You're right. But no, Anthony, good luck 351 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,280 tomorrow. Thank you for your time. 352 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,680 Thank you. Top man Durant. 353 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,920 Arphine, John, thank you for joining us on what is, I'm sure 354 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,560 a very busy weekend for you here at Goodwood. 355 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,080 Just I guess, first of all, you look after a large number of the 356 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,000 Super tours that we see running at different events and you run 357 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,680 them very competitively. Generally, what goes into the 358 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,880 level of preparation needed to run those cars at such a high 359 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,200 level? What's good is that they're very 360 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,240 well developed cars. From back in period when they 361 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,320 were, when they were built. So we have for some of them 362 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,000 quite a large stock of spares. The problems come is when you 363 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,160 don't have the parts and you're having to recreate parts and and 364 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,760 recreate some of the knowledge that goes with that. 365 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,160 They're complicated cars, you know, there's a lot that went 366 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,960 into them and thus there's now quite a lot that goes into them 367 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,520 now in order to keep them running. 368 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:25,840 And so getting a bit more into what you're mainly here for this 369 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,960 weekend on the sea of touring side, the car behind you, the 96 370 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,120 Honda Accords, but you're running in the sea touring sheet 371 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:36,960 out with Matt Neil. What is, are there any quirks 372 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,800 with this Honda that are different in terms of the 373 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,720 preparation and how it runs compared to some of the other 374 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,360 sea tours that you run? No, to be honest, out of out of 375 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:50,200 all of the cars we run, the Honda is one of the, I don't 376 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,400 want to say simplest, but it but it's one of the more basic cars 377 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,840 we have. The engine is through Neil Brown 378 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,560 is a very well trodden path, you know, so getting parts for that 379 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,040 is relatively easy and maintaining that relatively 380 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,080 easy. It's an extract gearbox like a 381 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,120 lot of the cars run and again parts for that is relatively 382 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:10,640 straightforward. So so keeping this car running 383 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,520 is is one of the easier cars. Lovely. 384 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,480 And in terms of the sheet out itself being a bit more of a 385 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,840 competitive event than maybe some of your demo runs that we 386 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:27,440 we see, what level do you think this Honda can compared to some 387 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,800 of the later cars in period Run 2? 388 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,040 I think the cars are are more evenly matched than perhaps you 389 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,360 think that period from 96 to 2000, yes, the later cars are 390 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:43,840 faster, but because there's so limited track running here, I 391 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,760 think it's much more to do with the driver and how quickly they 392 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,520 can get comfortable in the car to get down to the to get down 393 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,360 to a good lap time. And just finally, in terms of 394 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:56,040 the the weekend set up, we've had practise on the Saturday 395 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,400 morning, we're leading up on Saturday afternoon into 396 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,920 qualifying and then there's a practise session before the 397 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,520 final tomorrow. Naturally these are quite 398 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,720 delicate machines. What's the level of running and 399 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,640 I guess the level of anger that can be put into running these 400 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,200 cars whilst also making sure we're keeping them in one bit in 401 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,640 the lead up to the finals tomorrow? 402 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,360 Certainly in the, in the two demo runs that we've run one 403 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:24,240 this morning and run tomorrow, they're, they're, they're fast, 404 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,600 you know, so, so they, they, they're exercising the cars 405 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,520 properly, but they're not, they're not running them super 406 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,960 aggressive, super aggressively. Yeah. 407 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,160 But in the shootout, well, we're going to be telling Matt to, you 408 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,360 know, push because we want to do well. 409 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:38,920 So we'll get him to push as hard as we can. 410 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,840 John, thanks very much for your time this afternoon. 411 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,400 Good luck in the show over the weekend. 412 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,320 Anytime. Thank you very much. 413 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:50,440 Thank you. Alvin, we're here at Goodwood 414 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,920 and you've got a car that you own behind you. 415 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,680 That must be quite exciting. Yeah, well, I don't know whether 416 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,360 you know, but in 2002 I bought the whole team. 417 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,560 Yes, they built. Four cars, yeah, the winning car 418 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,000 is the menu car behind me. This one finished second in the 419 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:16,600 championship and I've also got chassis 3 #4 is in New Zealand. 420 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,280 Right. So I've been told by Anthony 421 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,760 Reed to ask how you came about owning all these cars. 422 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,480 And we'll go again. And I've been asked by Reedy. 423 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,200 He told me, Alex, make sure you ask Alvin how he came about 424 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,240 owning these cars. Well, in a word, I stole them. 425 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,000 I can't see how much it pays for them, but I did have probably 426 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,280 the best deal. What a good deal. 427 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,040 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But. 428 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,920 My negotiating skills were pretty good at the time. 429 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,680 Really. I had, you know, the big 430 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:05,120 business and I was used to dealing with managing directors 431 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,160 who used to come to see me to do a deal, right. 432 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Not the salesman. Yeah, I got being funny, but he 433 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:09,800 was a hard. Deal. 434 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,360 Yeah, no. So in periods 60 people would 435 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:16,600 work on these cars over a race weekend for Prodrive. 436 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,440 So how on earth do you keep it going as basically a one man 437 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:20,800 band? Oh. 438 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,880 My wife hasn't seen me for three weeks ago. 439 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,640 And how does she feel about that I. 440 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,720 Retired from motor racing? Four years ago. 441 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:33,400 Every year I'm selling them on Deos, right? 442 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,080 The end of the year comes, you know, I still haven't sold them. 443 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,080 I'm selling them next year. This has gone on for about 5 or 444 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,920 6 years. But I got to be honest, I get 445 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:51,000 into the stage zone it is and my team that used to work with me, 446 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,320 the both guys have finished. They don't want to do it again 447 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:02,000 and it's left me like on my own trying to do things, which is 448 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,840 very, very difficult because they're very high beaten. 449 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,960 Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean, you just have to look at the engine 450 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,200 Bay is is is open now. You just have to look at how far 451 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,480 back and how tricky, yeah, that car is. 452 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,560 Anthony has told us how you know the the things go through things 453 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,480 and. You want to see, you want to see 454 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,280 the insider that. Yeah, the. 455 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,680 Moment the ignition switches. Fair enough. 456 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,160 Right, so it's sorting. Out that. 457 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,760 Way. Starting sometimes. 458 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,120 Stopping, you know so. Whether we'll be out in the next 459 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:38,440 the next race, yeah, well. Who knows? 460 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,160 5:00 Yeah. But the shootout tomorrow. 461 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,040 Is that's right, Yeah. It's just qualifying. 462 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,920 We get it going for that. Yeah, that'll be OK, as long as 463 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,360 Anthony can give it a run. Yeah. 464 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,840 And he was really over the moon with the car this. 465 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:51,720 Morning. Brilliant. 466 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,360 And he did a couple of laps, came in and he said bloody hell, 467 00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,080 what's the matter? He said nothing. 468 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,160 It felt good, so I came in. Fab. 469 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,320 So, you know, I was over the moon. 470 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,880 Yeah. And but we've, we've had this 471 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,800 starting problem all day. Yeah. 472 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:14,560 So. Hopefully we we Can you believe 473 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,360 a cigarette lighter saved the day. 474 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:22,080 Really. Because our little gas gas 475 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,960 soldering iron needs a lighter to fire it up. 476 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,560 So to get this on the grid tomorrow we can find some guy 477 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,720 who smokes himself to death. Talking about getting on the 478 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,200 grid, the one final question I've got for you, it must be, it 479 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,080 must be exciting having somebody with the, you know, the presence 480 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,920 and the the reputation of Anthony Reid to come and race 481 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,400 your car. Oh. 482 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,000 Yeah, I've I've, well, this is one of my cars as well, that 483 00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:51,760 Paul Ryan. Yes, yes, and. 484 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,840 Crystal Paul has driven this at Goodwood. 485 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,000 Andy Roush has driven it at Goodwood. 486 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,920 Oh, wow. Yes, yeah, You know, and Anthony 487 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,960 Reed has driven that. Yeah, three times at Goodwood. 488 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,680 So, you know, I know Anthony quite well. 489 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,760 I trust him in. The car, yes, so. 490 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,480 That's the important thing, you know what I mean? 491 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,840 Yeah, no, absolutely yes. You've got such a such a rare 492 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,040 piece of touring car history there. 493 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,680 You don't want to. Don't just entrust it to 494 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,640 anybody. Do you know so? 495 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,120 Yeah, I'm, I'm the amount of people that have come up to me 496 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:30,040 this weekend and thanked me for bringing it you. 497 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,120 Yeah, it's it's been amazing. Yeah. 498 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,960 Because this God, look at it now. 499 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,600 It's the only one that's got a huge crowd around it. 500 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,760 There's there's, there's, there's a level of mystique 501 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,320 around. It was one of my favourite super 502 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,440 tours in period. It was the colours. 503 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,520 It was just the fact that Alan and Anthony drove them. 504 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,480 It was just, it was a perfect mix of and yeah, you're right. 505 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,680 Look at, look at the crowds around it now. 506 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,200 It's wonderful all the time. But no. 507 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,040 So to add to that, Alan, thank you so much for bringing it 508 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,960 along and sharing it with us and letting Redie loose with it. 509 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,960 My pleasure, I love showing it. All I don't blame you. 510 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:11,160 I don't blame you. And that's it from our driver 511 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,200 and personality interviews from Goodwood. 512 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,000 We'll shortly be sharing our video footage that we took over 513 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,000 the weekend with you all on our Patreon channels and through our 514 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,320 social media feeds. Make sure you join us again next 515 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,000 week on Stories from Super Touring, where we'll be looking 516 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,680 at the final win of a very popular BTCC driver. 517 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:33,080 In fact, he was mentioned in today's episode. 518 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,440 It's Will Hoy and we look back at his final BTCC reign at 519 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,280 Silverstone for Ford in 1998. Until then, we'll see you next 520 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,320 week. Goodbye.