1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:18,810 Stories from Super Touring. It was a night full of dramatic 2 00:00:18,810 --> 00:00:22,650 highs and lows for Ford teammates Alan Menu, Anthony 3 00:00:22,650 --> 00:00:26,490 Reed and Rickard Rydell, all three of whom had a shot at 4 00:00:26,490 --> 00:00:31,570 winning the 2000 BTCC title in the final year of Super Touring 5 00:00:31,570 --> 00:00:35,160 in the series. Welcome to the latest episode of 6 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:38,480 Stories from Super Touring. I'm Levi Riley, and to help us 7 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:43,040 look back at the 2000 BTCC season finale is Eurosport 8 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,480 commentator Greg Haynes. Greg, welcome to your first 9 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:48,800 appearance on series five of the pods. 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,080 How are you? Thank you very much, Levi, and 11 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:54,120 I'm going to give a wave back for anyone who's watching on 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,160 video. To Alex Clark with a slightly 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,320 strange look on his face. No, I'm fine. 14 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,160 Thank you. This is a special one for me 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,840 because I was actually at 2 meetings in the year 2000 as a 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,400 10 year old boy. So yeah, Donnington 98 was a 17 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,640 special one. The first one I did with you the 18 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,360 previous season, but this one I wasn't at this actual race 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,520 meeting, but I was at the earliest Silverstone meeting 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,640 that year and the first Donnington meeting. 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,000 So yeah, where the hell is 24 years gone? 22 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,120 And we'll, we'll stick with you, Greg, for our usual opening 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,360 question. What first comes to mind 24 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,520 thinking specifically about this finale meeting at Silverstone? 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,280 The Knight Race meeting? The first sight that comes into 26 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,720 my head, Levi, is Tom Christensen in the Honda coming 27 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,800 out of Love Field miles ahead of the rest of the field. 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Obviously he's a nine time Lamont 24 hour winner, but at 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,720 the time he was a two time winner. 30 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,840 He'd won it that year as well. So his night racing experience 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,040 came to the floor, didn't it? And changeable conditions. 32 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,600 So that's what I think of. Obviously it was the end of 33 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,800 Super Touring, the end of this 10 year period that we all love 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,040 so much. And also having watched the 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,320 races back again just this week, how on earth did Anthony Reed 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,880 manage to throw away the title? And that's another thing that I 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,320 think it's a shame that he didn't because he's definitely 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,520 one of the best drivers never to have won the championship. 39 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,560 But on both occasions in which he was in a finale at 40 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,120 Silverstone, I think it's fair to say he cracked under the 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,880 pressure, didn't he? 98 with Nissan, made some silly 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,400 mistakes in the Sprint race and then 2000 with the Ford. 43 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,320 He didn't need to be back in the pack. 44 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,600 He was third early on in the feature race and probably should 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,480 have won the championship. But it was an amazing era and an 46 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,760 amazing end to the era. Ironically, it was Thompson that 47 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,360 was sort of his pain in the ass at both 98 and 2000. 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,920 It was Tomo that the sort of scuppered his 98 title fight at 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,800 at Silverstone. And Tomo got in the way a lot at 50 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,600 not got in the way. That sounds a bit unfair to 51 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,000 Tomo, but yeah, it was Tomo that was his his pest again. 52 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,680 Another thing that's quite sad, I think looking back, is that we 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,920 don't have the Silverstone International Circuit anymore 54 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:06,400 and it was a great circuit for cars and bikes and the National 55 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,080 Circuit's a bit too short really, isn't it? 56 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,960 There's hardly a corner on it, certainly hardly a left hand 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,760 corner on it. Good for that spectator. 58 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,400 I suppose you see them come around more, but the 59 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,520 international circuit was a great layout I think. 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,400 The the last time, the last time was at Silverstone and I see the 61 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,000 travesty that is Bridge Corner now. 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,240 Oh. Yeah, I know. 63 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,360 Such a mega corner. Wonderful bridge, yeah, one of 64 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,120 my favorite corners in in motorsport bridge was and some 65 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,600 magical moments in touring cars happened there in Formula One 66 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,520 and and yeah, to see the state is in now, yeah, it's it's very 67 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,360 sad. Yeah, in a corner that wasn't 68 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,480 really used in motorsport history for that long, was it 69 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,280 really? No, it wasn't. 70 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,920 It was modified. That complex was put in in 91 71 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,120 and then it was changed again in 2910. 72 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,640 So it only got what, not even 2 decades? 73 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:57,640 Yeah. What a shame. 74 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,280 It became such an iconic corner. Yeah, I remember. 75 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,280 We're going totally off topic now, but Barrichello passing 76 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,200 around the outside of Raikkonen there in O3 to win the British 77 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:14,440 Grand Prix, Just epic. Adam coming to you next, What 78 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,240 jumps into your mind when you think about the the 2000 season 79 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,959 finale at Silverstone? I think it was the the, I say 80 00:04:21,959 --> 00:04:23,240 sad. It's sad when you look back at 81 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,960 it now, but the fact that is the end of the Super Taurus, and I 82 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,800 think you would have known what that meant or what that looked 83 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,120 like. I think we all would have been 84 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,320 really sad about it because obviously the cars, the regs, 85 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,960 everything changed massively. And you know, This is why this 86 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,920 podcast exists because we love that era so much and the cars 87 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,240 and the drivers and the engines, the designer that have 88 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,400 everything about it. The engineering side of it was, 89 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,880 you know, it was such a good era. 90 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,960 So it was the end of that and it was a night race. 91 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,600 So there were the two things that really stood out for me. 92 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,000 Finally coming to you, what are your memories of this meeting? 93 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,280 So I've got 2. I remember thinking at the time, 94 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,200 as Adam just said, the end of Super Touring, we knew that that 95 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,560 was coming to an end. Nobody really quite knew what 96 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,880 was going to happen. The new regs had sort of been 97 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:17,800 shown. But yeah, it was manufacturers 98 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:22,760 are pulling out, nobody apart from at the time Vauxhall were 99 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,360 actually confirmed. There was rumors that Peugeot 100 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,520 were coming back, which they did. 101 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,640 There was rumors of Rover and obviously they did. 102 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,560 But yeah, it was just a bit of an unsure sort of this this 103 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,320 championship, this international championship is suddenly 104 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:43,280 possibly come into a demise, which it didn't thankfully. 105 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:47,080 But yeah, at the time thinking what's going to happen in the 106 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,960 future. But another thing on track is 107 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,440 just I don't know what Vincent Rademacher had eaten in the day, 108 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,120 whether it was Smarties M and Ms. or a combination of all 109 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,960 these E numbers, but he was just. 110 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,080 He was on. One, he didn't, he didn't. 111 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,560 Perhaps he already knew there. This is my last race, I might as 112 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,200 well go out with a bang and just piss everyone off. 113 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,320 He seemed to have contact with everyone. 114 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,400 Yeah, including Gabrielli Tarquini, who pulled off not one 115 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,120 but two amazing saves in the Feast race. 116 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:23,840 Yeah, Plato flashing his lights at him through Maggots and 117 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:28,240 Becketts spins off and gets going, and then he gets a tap or 118 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,160 a whack from Rademacher at Priory as. 119 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,040 Well, yeah, yeah. Yeah. 120 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,880 I mean, I think I counted if it was 4 drivers from the factory 121 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,800 teams who were in their last meeting, their last BTCC 122 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,360 meeting. Other menu would later it, but I 123 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,880 think it was Rademacher, Rydell, Tarquini. 124 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,000 And there is one more I'm trying to think who Christensen who we 125 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,040 wouldn't see in the BTCC ever again, sadly, after this last 126 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,000 meeting. Producer Matt are going to hop 127 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,280 over to you now as well. What are your memories when you 128 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:57,480 think about this 2000 season finale? 129 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,600 Well, I actually have slightly different memories because that 130 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,360 year my dad and I had started marshalling and on that event we 131 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,600 were on the inside of Abby Hairpin, which, you know, I'd, 132 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,600 I'd just like to take a moment to say how bloody hard Marshalls 133 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,960 work. They, they have very, very long 134 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:21,080 days, but one of the perks is that you can watch from rather 135 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,560 unique positions. So standing on the inside of 136 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,000 Abbey Hairpin, there was a, it was a great view of Rademacher 137 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,080 and Neil coming together in this, in the Sprint race and a 138 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:36,440 couple of other incidents. But that was, that was the, the 139 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,200 first memory that comes back to me. 140 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,520 Also one of the support races, I think it was AGT, some kind of 141 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:47,040 GT race, one of the cars smacked the barrier right next to next 142 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,840 to where we were. And of course in the darkness 143 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,000 and not sure which direction headlights were coming from. 144 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,360 And it did take us all to surprise. 145 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,880 Your wake, I imagine. It it did it better than the Red 146 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,360 Bulls, yeah. Must have been a great view with 147 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,000 watching the break disclaiming in the the night race as well 148 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,480 there, you know it's the hardest breaking point in the circuit 149 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,480 there, so it was a good. Good view for you. 150 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,520 Absolutely, absolutely phenomenal. 151 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,040 A real a real privilege that, you know, Marshalls get in, in 152 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,840 terms of things like viewing points and things that the 153 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,520 general public can't see. A better example really would be 154 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,720 the sort of back end of the circuit at Craft or Thruxton. 155 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,600 And you know, plenty of people could watch and the Abbey Hare. 156 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,640 But to be stood in the middle of it and literally follow the cars 157 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,039 around 360, it was it was wonderful. 158 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,360 And you know, great payback for all of the work that Marshalls 159 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,000 do is that you do get some of those perks. 160 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,640 As always, we've asked our faithful listeners what they 161 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,840 thought of this race meeting for our social media channels and 162 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,240 they've come up with the following thoughts and maybe you 163 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,880 guys listen will also have some similar memories. 164 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,160 Andy Hopley got in touch to say that he remembers Matt Neil 165 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,560 switching from his 99 spec Nissan Primera to the old 98 car 166 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,040 after he crashed his 99 Primera in free practice. 167 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:05,480 Well, as Chris Lamas remembers Jensen Button being a keen 168 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,680 spectator in the paddock that day, Richard Clubley remembers 169 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:14,120 he couldn't go due to the fuel crisis going on at the time, 170 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,840 which I think also probably nearly put the meeting in in 171 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,200 doubt a little bit as well at this time. 172 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:23,440 Yeah, it did. There were lots of questions 173 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,920 whether the race would go ahead because of the the the shortage 174 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,280 of fuel. So, but yeah, they went ahead. 175 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,040 Dennis Knight said he remembers Reid ultimately bustling it and 176 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,720 Rademacher taking Reid out to finish the championship in menus 177 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,720 favour. Glenn Freeman, the host of Bring 178 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,280 Back V 10s, one of our favorite podcasts, Simply said The End, 179 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:50,040 which was also mentioned by Harry Priest, Ben Lee, Rowland 180 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,960 Hill, Ben Keating, Russell Pryor, Matt Bortlick and Moe 181 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,760 Cawley. Naturally, given the historical 182 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,640 significance, quite a popular comment. 183 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,000 Ashley Sharp remembers Plato flashing his headlights at 184 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,200 Gabrielle Tarquini. I think we've already mentioned 185 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,280 this and then falling off the circuit in response, which might 186 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,080 be the one time that flashing your headlights has ever worked. 187 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,080 Aaron Collins says it seemed that Reid went into himself and 188 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,480 just invited pressure in both the races, which inevitably 189 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,600 costs him the title. Stuart Harriet's memory is him 190 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,320 marshalling his first ever BTCC meeting, whilst finally Adam 191 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,600 Stokes and Dan Mason both remember the feature before the 192 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,640 race on BBC Grandstand with Charlie Cox going all University 193 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,120 Challenge on Reedy Rydell and Menu about the championship 194 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,320 fermutations which was a great watch back that. 195 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,360 You don't really get features like that in any sport coverage 196 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,240 now do you? They were, they were. 197 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,280 They were always really good. I used to love watching the 198 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,120 build UPS because they would always do something a little bit 199 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,360 funny or a little bit bizarre or out there. 200 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:04,360 And yeah, that was that was one of the the funny ones and and 201 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,080 good sports on Reedy Rodel and menu for taking part as well. 202 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,080 Yeah, and another reminder I think as to why the BTCC was so 203 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,080 great as well. The accessibility it had not 204 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,920 just at the track. You can go meet the drivers, 205 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,640 have pictures, not selfies. Because you know, you didn't 206 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,080 really have camera phones then, did you? 207 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,800 Did you talk? Cameras were just starting 208 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,560 amazingly. But you know, that sort of 209 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:28,280 feature you see all the time now, silly stuff like that on 210 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,520 Instagram and social media, TikTok and whatever. 211 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,880 But that was so different then, wasn't it? 212 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,840 And again, it, it made the BTCC, it was never going to be Formula 213 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,040 One, but it made it so different and so likeable. 214 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,080 I mean, that's one of the reasons we're all sat here now, 215 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,680 isn't it? I think it's that that whole 216 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:46,280 thing where it's just relatable. These are tin top cars that you 217 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,000 know, recent win on a Sunday by Monday, like you could you could 218 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,680 relate to it also doing what they could do. 219 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:54,040 They could do that that the freedom to have the crack with 220 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,080 the drivers or tell the drivers they need to do this interview, 221 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,000 that interview with Formula One. It was so strict really, and so 222 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,280 like, you know, regimented and and the kind of issue can't do 223 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,800 that and we don't do this. We don't have any fun factor to 224 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,600 it at all. And again, it's a serious sport, 225 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,120 but so trying to win a touring car championship. 226 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,400 But it's that relationship with that and the fans into the 227 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,040 random garages, the cars, the drivers, the autograph sessions, 228 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,600 they still do to this day before each race on a southern day. 229 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:23,960 And you know, it's that whole relatable. 230 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,760 And that's why the championship's always been so 231 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,240 popular and the. Facts of course the previous 232 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,920 weekend result in park the penultimate round of the year 233 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,640 race meeting because they referred to each race as around 234 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,160 didn't they? But that was live of course 235 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,040 Alton Park on BBC Grandstand, so I'm sure a few more people would 236 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,200 have been on the gate at Silverstone 6 days later for the 237 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,560 Saturday night race, having seen it at Alton on the telly a few 238 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:50,120 days before, Yeah. I remember the grid walk for 239 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,200 Alton, and I'm going totally off topic here. 240 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:57,160 That's Charlie Cox live doing a doing a live grid walk down the 241 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,720 grid at Alton and he bumps into the Michelin Man. 242 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,600 They just got out of the way, fatso. 243 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:07,880 You was. Unique, wasn't it? 244 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,160 And I think. Cox. 245 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,760 'S role in these build, that these, you know, these race 246 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,640 preview pieces was a big part of it as well, I think, you know, 247 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,320 yeah. Yeah, thank you of credit really 248 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,600 for for what job he could do actually from talk about Murray 249 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,800 and Barry and all the the grant commentators. 250 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,520 But like, he didn't really so shamed as a commentator back 251 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,200 then, but you look back now and I think he did a pretty good 252 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,160 job. Yeah, yeah, because he would. 253 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,240 Have had to turn up early, film all that stuff and obviously 254 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,160 then Murray did the same. But Watty and Cox did a piece to 255 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,080 camera, didn't they, between the two races in Silverstone? 256 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,320 Yes, yeah. But obviously. 257 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,440 That commentary was dubbed, as we've talked about before, that 258 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,240 was put on after London. So they were there. 259 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,040 They were there, yeah, but. They would have known by the 260 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,200 time they did the commentary exactly what the outcome was. 261 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,880 But you would never know that, would you, when you heard the 262 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:01,760 commentary back. Heading into the weekend, Ford 263 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,200 dealt the Series A huge blow with the announcement that they 264 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,640 would quit the series at the end of the season. 265 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,840 Ford announced that decision on the Wednesday before the finale, 266 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,000 with team boss David Richards admitting the news was no 267 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,560 surprise. We've known this was going to 268 00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:21,560 happen for the past year. The new BTCC formula just 269 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,920 doesn't suit Ford, he said after the announcement was made. 270 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,280 Alex, naturally, especially given full success in 2000, a 271 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,320 huge bloody for the series, albeit probably one that was 272 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,520 very much expected at this point, wasn't. 273 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,800 It very much expected. I mean the, the, the teams were 274 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,360 spending so much at this point that when they won it, they 275 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,280 pretty much buggered off because it's our well, we've done what 276 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,560 we've needed to do now Volvo, OK, they stayed around for 99, 277 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,880 but they soon disappeared. Nissan won and dominated 99 and 278 00:14:54,880 --> 00:15:02,360 then cleared off and Ford in 2000 and also these new BTCT 279 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:07,840 ugly looking things that had been sort of put forward as the 280 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,680 the new formula for touring cars. 281 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,520 The Monday was too big for that. You know, we saw the four O 6 282 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:19,360 coupe that looked like an absolute tank compared to the 283 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,120 the Astra coupe and the the Honda civics and the the protons 284 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,680 that came along after. So the Mondeo wasn't going to 285 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,520 cut it. They could have raised the 286 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,160 focus, but they've just spent multi £1,000,000 on a program 287 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,080 advertising the focus in rallying with Colin McRae. 288 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,280 You know some carbon ugly looking BTC touring focus is not 289 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,400 going to have the same attraction as so you could tell 290 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,280 I didn't like the BTC time but. I think. 291 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,760 Therefore have clearly blown their budget. 292 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,840 We've rallying at that. Point as well, yeah, and that's 293 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,240 a lot. And only and also spent £12 294 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,200 million on on touring cars. So yeah, it was totally 295 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,920 expected. But yeah, huge blow because the 296 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,440 Blue Oval is touring cars, isn't it? 297 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,600 You know, you look back at all that, you know, the previous 298 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,080 success they've had with, you know, Sierra Cosworth going back 299 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,360 even further than that. But you know, the capris, 300 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,320 obviously the Sierras, the Mondeo. 301 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,040 Yeah, it's, yeah. Ford was touring cars. 302 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:26,840 So, a huge blow, but not unexpected, and not surprisingly 303 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,600 at all, completely. Done it all like you're not 304 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,840 going to commit to do within that sort of money year in year 305 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,040 out in the same championship I and. 306 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,880 Also, they just bought Stewart Grand Prix as well. 307 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,080 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 308 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,920 And turned into Jaguar so you know they they would go in 3 309 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,720 prongs, you know touring cars, rallying and F1 and that's not 310 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,960 sustainable and you. Yeah, you and you thought the 311 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,120 Tory car, but it was a lot. Absolutely nothing Exactly. 312 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,680 Compared to what? They're going to probably spend 313 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,120 in rallying, but also the F1 just absolute different 314 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,000 stratosphere with with money. Yeah, quite. 315 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,120 Interesting actually, that Ford obviously put all that money 316 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,000 into Jaguar and F1. As Alex said, it was here at 317 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,880 Grand Prix Pro Drive went off and worked with BAR. 318 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,160 They had been working with venison. 319 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,920 Yeah. And I think did they not say as 320 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,760 well at the time? I remember reading reports that 321 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,160 these new BTC cars, in theory, were supposed to be attracting a 322 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,839 a new, younger audience, smaller cars and sort of the car you 323 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:23,160 might buy as a hot car. Hot hats, yeah. 324 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,280 Civics Astros. Yeah. 325 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,400 Yeah, there was talk. I, I think Volvo were trying 326 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,920 making a lot of noise at the time as well. 327 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,960 Weren't they about coming back in because they'd withdrawn at 328 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,760 the end of 99 the previous season? 329 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,840 Obviously they didn't come back in in the end, yeah. 330 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,480 Renault was well, there were Renault talks as well that were 331 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,360 coming back, but nothing really came to fruition. 332 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,600 Obviously Rover did with MG in the end. 333 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,320 That was probably the best looking of these tedious things 334 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,440 that it. Must. 335 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,560 Have been a desperate time though behind the scenes wasn't 336 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,560 it you know, and I ended up with Vauxhall doubling up and having 337 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,080 two teams the next year with Egg Sport as well as. 338 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,040 The red. Vauxhalls well. 339 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,080 Goward gone Goward. Gone. 340 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,920 Richard West has run in the series. 341 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,160 Yeah. Yeah, it was looking pretty 342 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,760 grim, I'm not going to lie. It wasn't looking great. 343 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,120 Honda Meanwhile, we're also expected to announce their 344 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:16,840 departure from the series after the season finale, with Dick 345 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,880 Bennett's remaining hopeful that his W Surrey Racing outfit could 346 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,960 remain working with the Japanese mark. 347 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:25,240 We have not been informed of any decision yet, he said before the 348 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,760 meeting. We understand it will not be a 349 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,600 full works programme but we are working on a semi works deal. 350 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,720 Greg, as we now know Honda did leave the BTCC entirely and 351 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,840 continued racing their Super Tours in the European Super 352 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,000 Touring series in 2001. Would it have been a worry for 353 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:50,760 BTCC bosses looking forward to 2001 given Ford had gone and 354 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,360 then Honda essentially then would as well? 355 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:56,480 For that year, yeah. I think without doubts, and I 356 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,920 remember at the start of the 2001 season watching it myself 357 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:03,440 at home on grandstands and thinking, wow, this is it felt 358 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,440 like watching an entirely different championship and not 359 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,440 least the fact that that first meeting, obviously I'm going off 360 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,560 in a bit of a tangent now, but that first meeting of the next 361 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,480 season at Brands Hatch in 2001. They also. 362 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,840 Had two Sprint races if you remember the BTC Taurus and then 363 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,400 the BTC production class. I remember watching that 364 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,000 production race and I didn't know the names of pretty much 365 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,760 any of the drivers. Completely new teams and the the 366 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,200 touring field was tiny. Wasn't it at the start of 2001? 367 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,040 It did improve as the season went on and they had to make a 368 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,600 lot of changes didn't they? To the regs. 369 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,880 But it just shows how quickly things can change isn't it? 370 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,240 For better or for worse, because we talk about the zenith of 371 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,240 Super Touring, as Anthony Reid would say in 98 we lost Peugeot 372 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,640 and Audi at the end of that season. 373 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Then we lost Renault, Nissan and Volvo at the end of 99 and they 374 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,320 had to think quickly, didn't they? 375 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,600 But maybe you could say they shouldn't have thought ahead 376 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,960 before. It's easy with the benefit of 377 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,720 hindsight, but absolutely. The the. 378 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,000 Costs were spiralling out of control, weren't they? 379 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,520 I mean, what was the budget for those? 380 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,120 Mondeo? As we said before, it was the 381 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:05,960 most expensive touring car ever to be run 12/12. 382 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,560 Mil. 12 mil. And that's. 383 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,080 Just Reedy's salary, so. That was. 384 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,800 Just a barbell. Yeah. 385 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,280 It probably was. Different if you listen to 386 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,880 different sources. So I've heard between 12 and 20 387 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,360 which, and, and we're talking 24 years ago as well, not £12 388 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:29,000 million now, three cars. As well, it's a lot of. 389 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,600 Money. Now, I can imagine there were 390 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,880 probably some. I mean, we talked about Ford's 391 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,320 involvement in F1 in 2000 with Janka. 392 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,240 I can imagine there were probably some F1 teams working 393 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:46,960 on similar or yeah yeah, Minardis, Minardi, Frost one 394 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,680 didn't have a lot of money by the 2000, did they? 395 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,280 Arrows, yeah. What is also good though, I 396 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,200 guess, is that those manufacturers that were 397 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,000 involved, Ford 100 Voxel, as they ended up in that order, had 398 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,880 the budget and the capability to field a third car that year. 399 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,440 Because otherwise that thin grid we had in 2001 we would have 400 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,520 already had, wouldn't we? I mean, it already looks small 401 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,360 in 2000. Didn't I remember Steve Ryder 402 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:12,680 saying it was down on on entries and down on numbers but not in 403 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,880 quality? The quality was there though. 404 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:16,120 We still had world. Class. 405 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:18,320 Drivers, didn't we, from all sorts of different countries. 406 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:25,040 Every driver in the in the works field had won a top level motor 407 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,160 race. Yes, of some sort. 408 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,760 Maybe not touring cars, but they'd won something 409 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,760 significant. Honda were the ones that were 410 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:38,000 sort of worrying about running a third car the most and in the 411 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,240 end they ended up having Tarquini come over with Jazz to 412 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,560 to run the third Honda. But I mean, this is how 413 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,560 expensive it was getting the. The independent field was only 414 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,520 two cars and it was 2 Nissans they started falling off at the 415 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,560 end of 99 the likes of Paula Cook, Lee Brooks, Russell 416 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,000 Spence. Yeah, it's you could tell that 417 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,800 these cars were just becoming far too expensive to run. 418 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:11,080 Yeah, it's a shame, but that's what happens when you have 419 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,280 manufacturers wanting to win, I guess. 420 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,960 Board team mates Alan Menu, Anthony Reid and Rickard Rydell 421 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,680 were going into this weekend attempting to be crowned the 422 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,280 final Super Touring Champion of the BTCC. 423 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,400 The title was almost certain to be decided in the final race 424 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,040 with just three points separating Menu and Reid once 425 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,320 drop scores were taken into account. 426 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,600 Menu held a narrow elite and would be ballast free, whilst 427 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,960 Greed would be carrying 40 kilograms going into the weekend 428 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,280 as a result of winning at Alton Park. 429 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,880 Before the race Menu said I will drive to win but I think I've 430 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,520 won enough races. I don't need to win, I just need 431 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,600 to score fairly well. Rydell's championship chances 432 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,880 were a lot less realistic after the collision with Menu at Alton 433 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,640 Park. I've got nothing to lose and 434 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,480 I'll be doing my best to win, he said prior to the event. 435 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,680 Adam, in such a tense title fight, which of the three 436 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,040 positions would you have liked to have been going in to be in 437 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,680 and going into that title decider? 438 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,120 You'd always want to go in as a championship leader completely. 439 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:24,920 I think Ready was in the driving seat. 440 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,160 You know, you look at that footage, the way they're, 441 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,920 they're doing the, you know what, what they each have to do 442 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,680 to win. You know, two of them needed, 443 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,320 you know, another one to have a bad result. 444 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,840 Like they needed really to have a bad, really bad weekend. 445 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,840 And you know, really Rydel had to win 2. 446 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,400 And it was all, you know, really was in a driving seat for me. 447 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,160 I know we made it bloody hard work when you look at the, the 448 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,880 results and how it went for him over the over those two races. 449 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,680 But and he was carrying forward to hear that. 450 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,920 But if you'd have asked Rydel and menu what position would you 451 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,560 rather be in going into the last round, both of those would have 452 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,280 said to you the championship leader. 453 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,000 So you can only want to go in there as a championship leader. 454 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,840 Yes, you've got the ballast, but it's no different to any of the 455 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,920 race going into the ballast. And you accept that your 456 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,360 performance isn't going to be quite as good, but you're still 457 00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:13,200 in the fastest team, the fastest car. 458 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,800 So you still, you know, you're still likely to have a really 459 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,240 good result to finish near the front, which is all you needed 460 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,400 to do. But yeah, we'll go into it in 461 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,320 more depth throughout the rest of this. 462 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,920 But yeah, 100%, I want to be really going into that. 463 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,720 Alex that the deadly drop scores, a dreaded drop scores 464 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,240 really affecting the chances of each drivers as well here 465 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,800 though, and as as we've mentioned, making the 466 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,200 permutations not the easiest to follow either, no. 467 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,360 No, you're right, it's a very hard to work out who needs what 468 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,120 because of the drop scores and and really in particular was 469 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,000 very, very badly affected by the drop scores. 470 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:01,440 He had an issue with an ECU at Croft, which meant he was 471 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,120 disqualified from the feature race at Croft. 472 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,320 So he didn't score any points. But because he was disqualified, 473 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,320 he wasn't also not allowed to use that as a drop score. 474 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:19,720 So going in, yeah, Reed had, Reed had almost unfairly been 475 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,120 penalized for being so consistent and finishing so many 476 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:26,480 races. So yeah. 477 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,280 And that's why I don't like drop scores. 478 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,200 I just think and look how complicated it's making this 479 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,440 championship fight. Yeah, you know the game. 480 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,360 Penalized for your consistency, aren't you? 481 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:37,040 Yeah, when? When when I was trying to work 482 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,400 out the permutations, like last week when I was watching this, I 483 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,800 still don't think I got it right. 484 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,680 I was trying to work out if Reed had finished, whether he would 485 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,400 have so had Rademacher, spoiler alert, shoves him off at the 486 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,880 end. If Reed had finished where he 487 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,800 did, would he have done enough to win the title? 488 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,040 And I don't think he was quite there, but it wouldn't have 489 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,040 taken much because Plato was chasing Menu and but would Menu 490 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,640 have been going quicker if really was? 491 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,760 Do you know what I mean? It's isn't a tricky 1. 492 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,040 He was. Smarter he didn't. 493 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,880 He let Plato past. He did. 494 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,520 When he knew really was out. So it's it's like, yeah, it's a 495 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,240 tricky 1 to I 24 years on, I still couldn't quite work, to be 496 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,040 honest. I'm talking. 497 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,480 Talking about menu being smart, I'm pretty sure earlier in the 498 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,640 season you can maybe help me remember where it was. 499 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,680 I'm pretty sure at one point menu dropped back in a race as 500 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,120 well to try and avoid ballast for the next meeting. 501 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:38,840 I'm trying to think where it was, whereas it might have been 502 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,480 Donnington or brands towards the end of the. 503 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,520 Year because I know which circuits are going to penalize 504 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,280 them more really in terms of carrying that way. 505 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,640 It might be Donnington because that's that's that's momentum 506 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,960 all. I ran Healy as well. 507 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,920 Yeah, I, I. I don't know. 508 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,840 I don't remember that it may. Have been earlier in the season 509 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,080 but I remember people at the time talking about the fact he 510 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,880 may have dropped back a tad and thinking ahead to the next round 511 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,360 makes sense. Makes sense, It was actually a. 512 00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:01,920 Very open season. When I was going through the 513 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,200 stats earlier, there were nine different race winners in 2000. 514 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,280 Well, yeah. Rademacher was the only one, 515 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,880 yeah, the works drivers that didn't win a race. 516 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,600 It was all. The works drivers apart from 517 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,160 Rademacher, Matt Neil had a winded near term brands, but 518 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,560 nine winners 19939899 and 2009 winners. 519 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,240 That is the most in any season. Interesting. 520 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,040 Yeah. In terms of race winners, it was 521 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,400 one of the most competitive of the lot, but that's really. 522 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,880 Interesting actually, because most. 523 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,200 Consistency wins titles, isn't it people? 524 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,600 Sort of forget about 2000. Yeah, Yeah, that's an 525 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,000 interesting one. I thought it was a great year 526 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,720 personally, but. And it is looking back now is 527 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,840 even we still enjoy it 30 now, don't we? 528 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,480 But at the time we'd come off the back of 98 Nitro, we'd lost 529 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,440 all those manufacturers. That's true. 530 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,240 Aiello had gone, I suppose everything. 531 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,920 Are the reigning champions not even on the grid? 532 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,320 No, you know. And some of those, the iconic 533 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,320 Renaults and Volvos and others were gone. 534 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,040 But it's still great looking back now compared to some other 535 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,400 motorsport we've seen since, I think it's fair to say give me 536 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:12,520 two. 1000 / 2001 any day. Independent ace Matt Neil only 537 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,400 just made it to the grid for the season finale, and it wasn't 538 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,800 because of fuel. Neil was the first driver to hit 539 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,960 a large quantity of oil during the test session on Friday. 540 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,080 He'd left the circuit at Beckett's at 120 miles an hour 541 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,440 and hit the crash barrier head on with no marshals nearby. 542 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,080 Several other cars spun and had near misses. 543 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,400 Even the truck that collected Matt's damaged Nissan spun 544 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,160 immediately afterwards. Neil was furious there were no 545 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,120 oil flanks or Marshalls around at all, he said. 546 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,040 Silverstone bosses hit back with Dennis Rohan saying the MSA sets 547 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,840 the marshalling levels. We use the same level for 548 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,120 Formula One. Having said that, we've all got 549 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,320 to learn from these things. The Team Dynamics squad quickly 550 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,440 got Neil's 1998 Premiera from a barn in Wiltshire where it was 551 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,720 being stalled and down to Silverstone for the remainder of 552 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,520 the weekend and Matt raced on despite a sore back. 553 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,000 Greg. Not a good start to the weekend 554 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,360 for Matt and the Dynamics Scott at all there was it? 555 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,400 Not really, no. When you described that he left 556 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,960 the circuit at Beckett's at 120 miles an hour and hit the crash 557 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,560 barrier head on. I think it is fair to say that 558 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,200 was not an ideal start to the race weekend. 559 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,400 And we probably just should explain to everyone as well what 560 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,720 this fuel crisis was all about because it's nearly 1/4 of a 561 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,920 century ago already isn't it? Basically what was happening is 562 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,480 the government at the time in the UK was hiking up surcharges 563 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,280 and taxes on fuel. So protesters were blocking the 564 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,560 refineries, blocking motorway, stopping the tankers from 565 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,040 delivering the fuel to the petrol stations. 566 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,880 Similar thing happened two years ago. 567 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,200 So that's what that was all about. 568 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,960 I don't know why they I don't know why they didn't just get 569 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,680 Vincent Rademacher to ram them out of the way. 570 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:00,640 Yeah. Exactly. 571 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,120 I'll tell you what though, I don't know if it was, it was 572 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,320 either producer Matt or yourself, Levi, just before we 573 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,680 started recording this, but did you not say it was twice? 574 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,600 Matt still qualified that 98 car, 5th on the grid, 2 separate 575 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,280 sessions for the two races. So I mean incredible. 576 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,520 It makes you think how good those premieres were and what on 577 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,760 earth was everybody else doing? Because he was still fighting 578 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,200 with Hondas and Vauxhalls, wasn't he? 579 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,040 And with Anthony Reed's Ford. But no, not a good start and 580 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,200 great stuff from Team Dynamics again, you know. 581 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,280 What was that car doing in a barn in Wiltshire anyway? 582 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,640 I guess. Bizarre. 583 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,480 Bizarre that, isn't it, actually. 584 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,720 Trying to find it in all the hay bales and getting all the hay 585 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,440 off it. Move a horse or a cow out the 586 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,200 way. There it is. 587 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,640 It's like. Something from a Hollywood 588 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,320 maybe, or something that they find this precious car in a 589 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,320 barn. It was. 590 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,560 I was impressed that they stick it up to the 2000 livery as 591 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,360 well. That was impressive. 592 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,320 Yeah, because it didn't look obviously the the headlamps were 593 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,480 a very different shape, weren't they? 594 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,520 But it didn't look too dissimilar. 595 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,400 But Matt was quite a lucky pre race. 596 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,240 I remember the Sprint race in 98. 597 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,480 He stopped on the warm up flapper, never got started. 598 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,280 So Silverstones, Matt Neal were a bit unlucky at that time, but 599 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,760 great, you've got to say, great stuff from Team Dynamics yet 600 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,880 again, putting everyone in the shade. 601 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,360 They'd won a couple of meetings earlier in the in the Sprint 602 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,920 race at Brands Hatch as well. So again, although as John 603 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,080 Watson said, a lot in the coverage in 2000, Matt probably 604 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,120 should have been a lot higher up the field, shouldn't He was 605 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,040 getting himself into a lot of scrapes, certainly earlier on in 606 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,040 the season. Yeah. 607 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,280 And lost a lot of points there. Yeah, yeah. 608 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,440 He had, he had a weird season with Christensen, didn't he? 609 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,840 They always seem to be banging into each other and and and 610 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,520 whatnot, Yeah. But no, great, you've got to say 611 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,840 that to, to recover. And obviously considering, as 612 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,080 you just said, Levi, Matt was in pain as well after an impact 613 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,680 like that. It's just a shame now we know 614 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,280 Matt's OK. It's a shame there's no footage 615 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,680 as far as I'm aware. I don't know if there's any 616 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,840 stills images. Oh no, there's nothing. 617 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,560 Nothing that I'm aware of anyway. 618 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,880 Maybe. Check with our friend Greg 619 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,960 Denton to see if there's any images of yes yeah. 620 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,800 Because it sounded like a hell. Of an impact, let's not. 621 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,080 Forget the irony, of course, of fuel shortage everywhere, but it 622 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,280 was all over the yeah. Yes, it's true. 623 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,600 Exactly. Do we know where the oil came 624 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,520 from by the way, is that, was that specified? 625 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,560 Was it one of the other touring cars or a support race or and 626 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,520 did I also read the the truck that went to recover Matt's car? 627 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,240 Did I read that in our script? It's. 628 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,240 Been. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, it did. 629 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,760 Yeah, yeah. That's that's, that's the 630 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,960 footage I'd like to see. To be fair, yes. 631 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,600 As expected, the focus on qualifying would be on the free 632 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,320 forwards, but Matt Neil stunned the paddock by sticking his two 633 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,440 year old Primera in 5th place for both races. 634 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,680 The team worked on the calf throughout the night and I hope 635 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,560 this rewards all their hard work. 636 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,920 A delighted Neil said after the session. 637 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,760 Adam, after the troubles and drama he'd had so far that 638 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,240 weekend. That's a fairly incredible 639 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,680 performance, isn't it? Completely. 640 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,160 I mean, exactly what Greg's just spoke about there. 641 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,320 I mean, absolutely applaud every person involved in making that 642 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,280 happen. You know, to go from a, not just 643 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,600 a normal, you know, a shunt, but it's a bloody quick one. 644 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,320 So yeah, it's a lot of damage caused. 645 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,560 So to come back from that really, I mean, you know, 646 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,600 there's plenty of teams out there in different championships 647 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,160 that probably just put a sheet over it and and walked away. 648 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,760 But and just, you know, just accepted the fact that we're not 649 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,920 going to continue that weekend. So to to do what they did, mega, 650 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,280 mega job, mega job. You know, I'd be surprised if 651 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,920 you could see in many teams repeat that now you know, to go 652 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,440 and get a car from to not, you know, most teams that have spare 653 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,680 parts now, but to go actually go and physically get another car 654 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,600 that exists to use parts from. It was just outstanding work 655 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,240 really. Richard Riedel won the Battle of 656 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,480 the Fords with the Swede taking pole for the Sprint race and 2nd 657 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,120 for the feature race, whilst Tom Christensen's hondered at second 658 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,320 in the Sprint and pole for the feature. 659 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,600 Meanwhile, Alan Menu was faster than Anthony Reed in both 660 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,160 sessions, which Reed expected, having to carry the extra 40 661 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,160 kilograms in weight. He was pleased to be so close to 662 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,239 Menu with 4th and 6th in the two sessions. 663 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,000 Alex, The grid made for what was hopefully going to be an 664 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,840 incredible night of racing, wasn't it? 665 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,239 Yeah, it. Was a good grid. 666 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,120 I mean that that 40 kilograms really made the difference. 667 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:26,560 And you know, no wonder that menu was trying to, to avoid it 668 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,199 earlier on in the season because yeah, he would have been a lot 669 00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:34,280 closer to the front of the grid had he not been carrying the 670 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,280 extra 40 kilograms. Impressive that he was so close 671 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:44,679 to many with 4th, actually 6th not too bad, but it's just 672 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,000 tough, isn't it? It just really is tough. 673 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,480 He he would he would have to fight his way through the field 674 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,960 to to get to the front and get the results he needed. 675 00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:55,159 And that wasn't going to be easy. 676 00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:58,360 When you've got the likes of Thompson, Talquini, Christensen 677 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,920 menu right out around you, you know, there's no slouches there, 678 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,960 is there? So yeah, it was going to be an 679 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,560 epic night. And I'd like to say that it did 680 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,440 turn out to be an epic night of racing, but probably not for 681 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,960 Reedy. Rydell did everything he could 682 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,200 to keep his championship hopes alive as he took the lead at the 683 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,920 start into cops reps are. Up, ready for the off. 684 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,760 Rydell on the right. He's away cleanly. 685 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,040 So is Christensen. A pair of Fords right behind 686 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,840 them, all the Class A cars crew cleanly. 687 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,680 That's Dan Eves and the Class B having a Dart now coming towards 688 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,080 us for the first time. Christensen on the left, that's 689 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,560 James Thompson lunging up the inside right. 690 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,720 Dell is through cleanly. Then it's nose to tail read and 691 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:45,000 menu that Neil trying to move around the outside. 692 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,080 On board with Matt Neil, now James Thompson ahead of us. 693 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,400 That's all our. Menu right beside us in through 694 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,040 Maggot's corner. We've got to turn right in the 695 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,800 second Neil and menu very close. Jason plate Menu is off Menu is 696 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,000 spinning. Can he hold it? 697 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,000 Menu is off and Plato Jason Plato has collected him the turn 698 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,920 into Beckett's that's that's off. 699 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,640 That's the end of his race in. Contrast Menu had a poor start 700 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,000 as Reed, Thompson and Neil all past him as he came around. 701 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,720 Beckett's Menu lost the rear of the car, slooed sideways and 702 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:20,880 collided with Jason Plato's Vauxhall. 703 00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:24,600 Matt got down the inside of Alan and I followed him through. 704 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,320 Alan saw me and thought I best cover that and lost the rear of 705 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,800 his car. I was waiting to see which way 706 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,880 you'd go and pick the inside line, Plato explained. 707 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:39,360 After the race, both Plato and Critically Menu were out. 708 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,920 Greg an extremely dramatic first lap there for the championship 709 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,000 leader. Yeah, I mean, this was just 710 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,760 about the biggest drama we could have possibly seen really, 711 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,760 wasn't it? And looking back now, I guess it 712 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,280 put even more pressure on Anthony Reed because he had the 713 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,120 pit signals from the board and we had the ready communication 714 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,240 played into the BBC grandstand broadcast. 715 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,400 The menu is out, Menu is out. Big. 716 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,040 Time back on board with. Anthony Reed, he will know that 717 00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,600 LM menu, the man he's challenging most, is now out. 718 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,320 Menu is out, menu out. There's the confirmation and it 719 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,640 just. Seemed like from that moment 720 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,120 onwards RE tightened up even more and was making more 721 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,120 mistakes. Got tangled up, as we'll hear 722 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,160 later with with Taquini. But yeah, I mean, Menu must have 723 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,320 been thinking at this this point, well, this is I don't 724 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,280 think he would have given up. He knew it wasn't over, didn't 725 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,560 he? But had Reid then got to finish 726 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,800 where he was at the time, it would have looked very 727 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,160 different. Going into the feature race. 728 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,320 Plato was unlucky. You have to feel for Jason. 729 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,880 He was so often not on the receiving end. 730 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,240 He was so often causing the incidents, I think it's fair to 731 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:44,320 say, through his BTCC career. But on this occasion, he was the 732 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,640 innocent victim. But I think Menu just lost it on 733 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,920 cold tires, didn't he? The pressure was on a rare error 734 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,640 for Alan Menu. I remember him spinning off at 735 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,600 Knock Hill earlier on in the season and I remember him 736 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,000 getting turned around at Thruxton. 737 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,920 But there's not often you saw a menu mistake. 738 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,600 Maybe in 98 there are a few boisterous moments, but then you 739 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,120 didn't often make a mistake through the whole of his career. 740 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,480 Did we say no? No, he was spinning like that on 741 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,680 the 1st lap at a crucial time. But the title on the line was 742 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,960 very rare indeed and it just makes you think again. 743 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,160 How on earth did Anthony Reid not end up winning that 744 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,120 championship? And of course, ironically, it 745 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,520 was in exactly the same part of the track where Reid ended up in 746 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,320 the gravel later on in the evening in the next race. 747 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,320 Adam, do you think that was a do you agree with Greg, an error 748 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,720 from Alan there or was it just a racing incident from you? 749 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,520 Yes, it's. A racing incident, although 750 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,880 there's an error from Alain, just purely, you know, you look 751 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,480 at the camera footage facing them as they're coming towards 752 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,720 you. It looks like he's been hit. 753 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,120 But it was just the literally it's a change of direction. 754 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,360 I know we spoke about this before we started to record, but 755 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,920 this was the first year where tire warmers were banned. 756 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:49,480 Now, I know they've gone all season knowing what this feels 757 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,080 like, but you know, it's, it's a difficult corner because you've 758 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,160 always got that, that danger. And it was the same when I raced 759 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,480 on that same circuit. You, you flat out through the 760 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,600 left, you're braking into the right, but you're also putting 761 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,600 all that pressure and you cut, you're trying to concentrate by 762 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,440 not braking too hard because you don't unlock the inside front, 763 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,000 but you're also doing a brake too hard. 764 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,360 So it pitches the rear end on cold, on cold attires because 765 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,240 the rears aren't really doing a great deal around there. 766 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,880 And that's exactly what we did. He just got caught out. 767 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,200 He went in there a little bit too quick and just got caught 768 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,800 out on, on cold rear tires. So. 769 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,480 And then, yeah, for once, Jason was the innocent party and that 770 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,040 and ended up colliding into the side of him and and that was him 771 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,600 done with a broken suspension. So it's a difficult corner, Ben, 772 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,080 you should have done better. But it is what it is. 773 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,600 And you know, it could have been have already did like most 774 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,320 things by most incidents within touring car racing. 775 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,720 But yeah, Jason was just the innocent person that just 776 00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:47,960 happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and 777 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,640 actually. As well. 778 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,440 You've got to say sorry, Alex. It was a great it was a great 779 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,240 save by menu actually, wasn't it? 780 00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:54,560 Yes. It was obviously then he just. 781 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,040 Got tagged. Menu joined the ranks of 782 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,640 spectators and spent the rest of the race doing sums in his head. 783 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,080 If Reed finished third, the task would be much more difficult 784 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,000 than before. I thought about everything. 785 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,720 I was pretty cheesed off. I can tell you I could only 786 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:17,040 watch the race, he said later. Alex, a tough moment for Menu 787 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,560 there. For once watching helpless as 788 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,880 his rivals raced on a championship battle. 789 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,160 If if I didn't know that that was an Ala menu quote, I would 790 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,600 have assumed it was an Anthony Reed quote being pretty cheesed 791 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:36,000 off. But no, yeah, that must be just 792 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:41,360 the most horrible feeling just watching your Championship 793 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,640 rivals. Both of them, obviously, because 794 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,240 Ryder was leading going round, you're already behind in the 795 00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:51,640 points. And yeah, Reedy was third and 796 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,560 Rydell was leading. His heart must have just sunk at 797 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,240 that. Point. 798 00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:58,000 You would have thought he was over, Yeah. 799 00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,000 Done. It's done. 800 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,480 Yeah, yeah, I I definitely agree that that that he he would have 801 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,640 thought that's it. No, it would have been a little 802 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,120 part of him that would hope. But yeah, if, if it was me, I'd 803 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,680 have been like, yeah, that's. Everything was against him at 804 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,960 that point, wasn't he thinking the fact that, like the readies 805 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,200 in 3rd, you know, Rydell's up there, like, it's just it's 806 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,720 over. Like, you know, he needs an 807 00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,480 absolute miracle to happen. And a little did he know what 808 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,800 was going to happen? But yeah, at that point, yeah, 809 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,640 he'd have been ready to pack his bags. 810 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,920 Can anyone? Remember the the points gap 811 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,680 going into this last meeting? Three points. 812 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,040 I think it was 3 or 4 points read. 813 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,760 Ahead, yes. Reedy was leading, yeah. 814 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,880 Back in the race, another Ford was leading championship. 815 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,720 Outsider Ricard Rydell was doing his best to even the odds, 816 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,080 chased by Honda's Tom Christensen. 817 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,760 The Ford Honda pattern continued in 3rd and 4th with Reed and 818 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,440 Thompson followed by Gabrielli Tarquini who muscled past nil at 819 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,160 Brooklands on the 1st lap. On lap 6 Thompson took a chance 820 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,400 at bridge knowing that Reid would not want to risk a decent 821 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,280 points. All it worked and Thompson's 822 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,440 timing could not have been better as they then came across 823 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,120 Jeff Kimber, Smith and the other Class B runners who held up 824 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,160 Reed, allowing Tarquini and Co to catch up on the Scotsman they 825 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,040 threw Nick. James at play again. 826 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,680 Seems to like the gravel here at Silverstone that's. 827 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:25,520 Comfy stuff, but this isn't comfy for Anthony Reed because 828 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,000 he's weaving all over the place trying to hold Tarquini off. 829 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,120 This is the drag down into Abby. Reed's got the defensive line. 830 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,240 Tarquini is side by side. There's AU turn coming up. 831 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,480 This is maximum pressure. Muller's trying to get past as 832 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,680 well. Matt Neil is bunching up all 833 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,960 over the back of Anthony Reed. They're swarming on him. 834 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,760 Greg Clansby. Didn't get the best club version 835 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:50,680 2000 and I know some people on this podcast looking at Alex 836 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,480 Clark here weren't the biggest fans of Class B seem to be later 837 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,760 renamed the production class. What did you think of the 838 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,080 category at the time? I will answer, but can I just 839 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,880 throw this to Alex Clark first please? 840 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,400 Yes. It's a game show, yeah. 841 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,120 Question or nominee? Yeah, I've. 842 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,000 Started so I'll finish. Get your little roller skate out 843 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,840 of my way. That's how I felt about Class B. 844 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,520 But Alex. It was the. 845 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,280 Future of the British Touring Car Championship. 846 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,320 It was a transitional season. A bit like 1990 had been, yeah. 847 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,920 You know. With the two litre formula 848 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,480 alongside the coterus. Did you see it like that? 849 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,200 I wonder if people felt that way. 850 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,360 They get that little lawn mower out of my way, out of the way of 851 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,280 my Sierra Cosway. I wonder. 852 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:41,520 But no, they they just looked so basic compared to when they used 853 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,880 when they used to cut to the in car and it was like the H 854 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,520 pattern box. It was like Jesus Christ. 855 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,320 And the pit stops that threw X2 and they didn't have to make 856 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,720 stops, but they did anyway, didn't they? 857 00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:56,080 Because of the crazy of nature that every every wheel note was 858 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,080 done separately. I have expected them to bring 859 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,520 out the old Jack. Yeah, the. 860 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,240 Spare wheel. They just looked awful and the 861 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,520 the speed difference between a super Torah and one of those was 862 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,960 big. Compared to later years where 863 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,760 they were against those BTC Torah things, that was not so 864 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,920 much of a gap so. Some of the on board footage 865 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,680 down in places like the cradle curves. 866 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,800 Yes, I was. Just thinking that yeah, yeah. 867 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,720 Or. Leading to the s s at Croft, 868 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:30,560 Yeah, I mean, luckily there was no incident, was there no bad 869 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,280 incident anyway? I mean, there was an incident 870 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,840 with James K at Brands, yes. Yeah, there was when, Neil? 871 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,280 Used James K on purpose to pass Christensen. 872 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,960 There were dangers in the wrong place at the wrong time there, 873 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,800 but luckily there was no no super tour assigned into the 874 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,360 back of the Class B. No, that would have been bad. 875 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,440 Yeah, that would have been nasty. 876 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,600 But they did get sort of caught up with Reedy and Tarquini and 877 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,360 Co in this race. Yeah, true. 878 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,080 So I think Jeff Kimber Smith and Nick James were trying to 879 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,600 wrestle each other off the track at some point and the big boys 880 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,920 came round and just get out of my way, sort of, I don't think. 881 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,280 It made it worse. With the with the looks of the 882 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,320 cars that designed everything, like you said, this was the way 883 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,440 it was going. The fact that they were on the 884 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,960 circuit at the same time I do. I do remember the season opener 885 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,600 brands on the GP loop in the feature race, Morrison ends up 886 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,640 on his roof in Peugeot 306. And I remember thinking, oh for 887 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,880 God to get these things off the track, what are they doing? 888 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,840 You know, in hindrance it was a bit like that, you know, and 889 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,880 obviously looking back now and with with an older head on, I 890 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:38,000 could see the reason for it. But I was very, very, very 891 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,320 distinct. I didn't have much time for them 892 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,120 at all. It was like, even when they cut 893 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,840 to them on the footage, like nobody cares where there's good, 894 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,680 you know? It did. 895 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,400 It did actually bring an interesting element into the 896 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,960 races to put a positive spin on this in the pit stop races in 897 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,840 particular, didn't it? Because if you stayed out 898 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,640 longer, you know to lead a lap and get the point, you would 899 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,240 then catch Class B runners. So it was quite crucial to make 900 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:03,680 sure you caught them in the right place. 901 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,880 Yes, Class B runners needed to not lose too much time being 902 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,680 that because they were racing against one another as Alex was 903 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,960 following in great detail with massive zest and enthusiasm. 904 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,960 Yes, these stupid. Sewing machines I. 905 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,840 Liked how old were? You were you, Alex, back then in 906 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,680 the year 2016. So. 907 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,000 Very angry 6 disappointed 16 year old. 908 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,600 I liked the neon lights that Bar Whale put on the bottom of the 909 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,280 Hondas, but it did look a bit chabby I guess. 910 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,800 Isn't it the little Curt show and those neon lights in the 911 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,400 night races? This was going through the Max. 912 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,280 Power era, so you're pretty good at free the Max Power magazine 913 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,880 and very. Year 2000, yeah. 914 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,880 Didn't the Honda have on its aerial? 915 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,640 Yes. Yeah, a little. 916 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,800 A little flashing. Ball. 917 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,200 Yeah, on the little flashing. Ball on the on there, wasn't it? 918 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,600 What is? A fascinating fact, gentleman, 919 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,520 Is that something I didn't know until today is that after Reed 920 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,360 and Tarquini, it was a Class B runner who completed the most 921 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,000 racing miles. Laps of kilometers. 922 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,000 James K It was. Mark Lemmer, actually. 923 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,280 OK, in the. Integra OK, fascinating detail 924 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,960 there, but yeah, I mean to answer yeah, the. 925 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,720 Reliable sewing machine. I remember Nokia I. 926 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,760 Remember. The difference in speed coming 927 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,760 out the heap and over the line at Nokia up the hill. 928 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,560 Yeah, it was scary actually, if you if they were on board with 929 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,800 the Super Tour or vice versa. It was scary seeing the the the 930 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,040 speed differential especially. In blind places like Nokia, up 931 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,240 over the top of the chicane, if there's a Part A Class B car 932 00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:35,400 parked on the top of it. I didn't think it was too bad. 933 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:40,160 It was important for the future. It was a transitional year and I 934 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,240 guess we are lucky we didn't get a nasty accident which could 935 00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:44,800 have happened and luckily didn't. 936 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,000 There's a bit of content, but nothing. 937 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,040 I think Reed pushed one wide as well. 938 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,400 Actually at Padakil Bend in the first feat Race of the Year 939 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:52,600 remembers one of the cars. That's right. 940 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:53,480 That's right. Yeah. 941 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,000 Yeah. But I've been Lemma then. 942 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,160 That's right. So yeah. 943 00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,680 What did I think of the category? 944 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,200 I thought it was fired. Oh, sat on the fence I liked. 945 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,840 The Peugeot. I remember that Peugeot catch in 946 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,480 my eye when I was 10 years old with its luminous livery. 947 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,960 I remember looking down on that Abbey hairpin where Matt was 948 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,520 describing he was on the inside marshalling in the mid season 949 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:17,680 round back in. When was that? 950 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,880 In June. And I remember seeing that 951 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,080 Peugeot go round and you could see it coming from miles off. 952 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,320 I like that about it. That was good but and also the 953 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,320 Peugeot was way ahead of the rest of the field. 954 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,680 Wasn't it earlier in the season? At least it was. 955 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,080 Win win or Buster? Wasn't it with Alan Morrison? 956 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,920 So. When he was sat next to a quick 957 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,440 fit sponsored Ford Pro Dr. Mondeo. 958 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,120 What do you think of the Peugeot then? 959 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:46,840 I thought it was very green. Alex. 960 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,720 Was just very happy that he saw the luminous green poetry. 961 00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:51,560 So we need the selling machines are on their way. 962 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,080 It was a. Singer It was a. 963 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,640 Reliable one here's. The thing? 964 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,800 I wouldn't do where those Class B cars are now because nobody. 965 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,960 Cares. Well, that's what Alex thoughts 966 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,040 are. No one doesn't Care now. 967 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,880 Big care then, I joke. I joke 20. 968 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,720 Four years later, he still doesn't give a shit. 969 00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:12,560 And he's. Saying I joke, I joke, you don't 970 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,320 joke. It's still not joking at all. 971 00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:16,520 You absolutely mean every word of it. 972 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,880 There might be a really big Class B enthusiast listening, so 973 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,880 I don't want to upset them. Look how look how much I upset 974 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:29,920 the Citroen BX community. So you know, I, you know, hype 975 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,360 balls. Going to start coming in now for 976 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,680 you again, Alex, Let's not. Go there, you know the only 977 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,840 thing. We could say, I guess, is that 978 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,240 at least if you have a proper, I'm not saying Barwell and the 979 00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:40,240 others weren't proper teams because they're good teams, but 980 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,680 Big Lee running that Peugeot and even when they had Will Hoy in 981 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,520 the car, I remember seeing Will Hoy, yes. 982 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,160 Will yeah at the. Right old age of 47, raced at 983 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,760 Silverstone mid season. Danny and and whoever was in 984 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,920 that Peugeot alongside Morrison went well didn't they that year? 985 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,680 Well, they normally. Beat Morrison, didn't they? 986 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,160 Will Holly, Will Holly got two poles, but then the car broke 987 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,600 both times. Did well. 988 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,080 Yeah. Mix and Lee raced at Donnington. 989 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,000 I think it was. Yeah. 990 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,560 Lee Linford raced at Donnington. I just like, you know, I didn't 991 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,800 have anything against the cars, but they were National Saloon 992 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:21,200 Cup cars and they had their own championship and yeah, Tony. 993 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,560 It's a bit like what class D used to be if I'm not wrong. 994 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,360 Yeah, before when? We had the original four class, 995 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,360 yeah. With the golfs and the yeah. 996 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,240 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're right. 997 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:35,080 But yeah, I just didn't didn't have much time for them 998 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,080 personally. It's I'm sure, I'm sure someone 999 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,000 out there loved them. And sorry, I think producer Matt 1000 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,200 was going to say something before and I interrupted you so. 1001 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,200 All of all I was going to say was that the much anticipated 1002 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,920 spin off series of stories from the production class. 1003 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,360 Yeah, that may not be happening after all. 1004 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,720 Cancelled. It could. 1005 00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:58,680 Happen, but it just won't feature Alex Clark. 1006 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,440 I don't think I'll get an invite on that one. 1007 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,920 Yeah, you. Know no guest on that one now. 1008 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,560 Ahead of the mayhem, Tom Christensen was all over the 1009 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,880 back of Rydell's car and on lap a made a clean move at Priory to 1010 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,280 slip past into the leads. Concerned. 1011 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,960 Rydell and the bridge corner. Coming up into the complex. 1012 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,160 Christensen lines him up, down the inside, and he lunges. 1013 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,880 Big pass. Tom Christensen. 1014 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,600 His lunge deck can ride. He'll fight back. 1015 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,280 No, he can't. He's made it stick. 1016 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,200 Great stuff. And the Honda boys know it. 1017 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,880 Just. Behind on the same lap, Tarquini 1018 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,640 tried the same on Reid, but the Pai contact and the Ford slewed 1019 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,640 sideways between Priory and Brooklyn's great. 1020 00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:44,160 Pass up again. Coming out of Abbey track 1021 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,280 position was critical. He got the drive up the hill. 1022 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,560 Look at this. That Tarquini tries to do 1023 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,080 exactly the same thing and it doesn't work and more impact 1024 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,680 that's Anthony Reid that's. Anthony. 1025 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,640 Reid, that's his championship hopes out. 1026 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,480 There's a Honda off. That was Tarquini. 1027 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,960 There was a foxhole. The guys in the Ford camp trying 1028 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,160 to sort that out. We're talking about deja vu. 1029 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,920 We saw the same thing happen to Anthony Reid some months ago in 1030 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,120 the first round here at Silverstone Reid's. 1031 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,120 Fan Pack was through Brooklyn's and was collected by Sarquini. 1032 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,760 The blame differed, according to he asked. 1033 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,560 So guys, where does the blame lay for you on that instant? 1034 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,720 The first thing I'd say is it's strange because we had a such a 1035 00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:27,440 similar incident at the first Silverstone meeting earlier on 1036 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:32,040 in the season when Thompson spun Rademacher, who went backwards 1037 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,680 straight into the side of Reed's driver's door and he was very 1038 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,400 lucky to get away with that. I don't think a very rarely if I 1039 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,200 seen a touring car damaged as badly as Rademacher's Vectra was 1040 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,520 on June the 11th, 2000, but fast forwarding to September. 1041 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,880 It's a really tricky 1 isn't it? Because Reed was slow at that 1042 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,840 point of the race. Tarquini was desperate to get 1043 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,120 through. I think it's a racing incident. 1044 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,960 Adam can give us the drivers inside, but Tarquini is 1045 00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:02,160 attacking. Reed's moved across, they've 1046 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,000 touched front wheel drive, so you could spin them around, 1047 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,720 couldn't you, from with your little finger? 1048 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,240 You've come through bridge, you don't position yourself over to 1049 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:11,680 the right hand side, you don't go through the left and 1050 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,840 naturally you're going over to the right then to break for 1051 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,880 Brooklyn's. But as he's done it, he's trying 1052 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,560 to just keep it tight Yeah talk when he's at the inside he's got 1053 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,320 his momentum as well, so his nose is ever so slightly by his 1054 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,000 back bumper. So there was only going to be 1 1055 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,080 winner in a position like that. And then let's bear it in mind 1056 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,720 that really is trying to win the championship here. 1057 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,440 He just needs to finish as high as he can, collect some points 1058 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,080 letting by. There you go. 1059 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,200 Don't put up the fight. Don't put yourself in a 1060 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:44,680 situation where it's going to end up in tears like most 5050 1061 00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:46,440 sort of do when you're in touring cars like. 1062 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,920 Tarquini. Had nothing to to win. 1063 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,760 He wasn't in a championship. He didn't give a shit about 1064 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,800 really. He was just trying to get past 1065 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,640 like any other race. And the fact that he's tried to 1066 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,880 hold it tight, he he sort of created the problem himself. 1067 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,720 Anthony did and I just feel like a disappointed parent when I 1068 00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:06,640 watch it and and. Kirk, you mentioned this before. 1069 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,920 It was Honda again, wasn't it? I would say I don't think 1070 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,840 Tarquini. Tarquini didn't do it on 1071 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,600 purpose, I don't think. Whereas with no, no, not at all. 1072 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,200 And the Thompson Rademacher won earlier in the season, I think 1073 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,160 James could have lifted off and he spun the Vauxhall round. 1074 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,760 This one was more I think like you said, Adam reading a quick 1075 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,440 corner. So you break down a day gear, 1076 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,360 maybe what, 2 gears and you're back on the throttle again into 1077 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,240 Brooklyn's. So the fact that really sort of 1078 00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:34,120 kept it turning left, which the cars are going right. 1079 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,600 So what did he want Tarkoini to do? 1080 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,480 I don't think he even thought Tarkoini was bumper was towards 1081 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,080 his rear wheel. But I personally wouldn't have 1082 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,280 took that risk. I. 1083 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,360 Thought really tried to take both lines. 1084 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:53,840 It's funny if Silverstone 898 he went so aggressive, didn't he on 1085 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,000 a. Honda again on. 1086 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,880 Thompson, he went so aggressive and absolutely wiped Tomo out, 1087 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,760 dropped them down the field, and this time he sort of went into 1088 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:08,240 his shell totally. It was just, yeah, it's so 1089 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:10,600 frustrating looking at now, you just want to sort of give him a 1090 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:11,960 shake and say, come on, Anthony. What? 1091 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,160 Yeah. Sort of. 1092 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,520 What are you doing? You know. 1093 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:16,240 And then real. Shadow. 1094 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,000 A shadow of his for myself as well. 1095 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,520 Sorry to let. In yeah, yeah, if you look at 1096 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,440 the previous. Rounds. 1097 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,120 All those points really had been scoring. 1098 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,360 The winner at Donnington won again at Alton. 1099 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,240 Mr. Sensible, Mr. Points Man and yeah, he just, he lost his head, 1100 00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:29,760 didn't he? Sadly, yeah. 1101 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,040 Good, good. The. 1102 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:36,560 Italian was out on the spot and Reed dropped to 8th cure Swiss 1103 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,400 sigh of relief from Beckett's. Let's hear what Tarquini had to 1104 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,080 say to BBC grandstand after this incident. 1105 00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:46,520 I was. In battle with Anthony, Anthony 1106 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:51,080 was very slow. Compare me and he was changing 1107 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:58,480 line every time and he changed line in between two corners like 1108 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:03,960 I was in so he spun in front of me and he went into the grass 1109 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,280 and he come back onto the truck and he. 1110 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,600 He take. Me. 1111 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,080 Take me off. Meanwhile, Thompson had pulled 1112 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,880 himself up onto the towel of Rydell and on lap 12 squeezed 1113 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,440 past on the exit of wood coat to drag past the Ford. 1114 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,360 The Honda 12 didn't last long though, because Rydell lunged 1115 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,920 back at Maggots, giving Thompson a clip on the way through and 1116 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,640 sending the Englishman free. The gravel Adam was it. 1117 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,720 A bit of tit for tat from both of them there. 1118 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:43,320 You look at the move that JT had put on on Rydell, he just just 1119 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,160 forced him wide, really came around to the straight, 1120 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,840 obviously got him and Rydell needed the points. 1121 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,640 But also, I know I've spoken about this in previous podcast 1122 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:57,320 and this is of how touring cars works really tit for tat. 1123 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,640 If you just take it, never give it, you're always going to get 1124 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,600 bullied. So you sort of give it back. 1125 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:06,160 So and I think even if you asked Thompson now today, you know, 1126 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,000 have you got a problem with what he did coming back? 1127 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,760 I don't think he would. He'd have just thought, well, I 1128 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,040 did it to him and he got me back and I deserved it. 1129 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,200 Really. I pushed my luck. 1130 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,720 And if you can get through with someone that way and then pull 1131 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,880 in a big enough gap soon enough, then obviously you can get away 1132 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,520 with it. But even then going into the 1133 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,400 next race or the next round, generally throughout a 1134 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,400 championship, you've always got it in your head thinking I mowed 1135 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,000 one from him. So when it comes at the next 1136 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,120 race or two races, 3 races, 4 races down the line when you 1137 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,080 want to kick off to to them about it, you know, Jack 1138 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,760 Thompson wanted, you know, if that was halfway for the season, 1139 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,240 it got 4 races down the line, then he wanted to mode it in for 1140 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,360 doing something. Rydell, I'll go. 1141 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,080 Well, do you remember that time when you'd beefed me off coming 1142 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:46,960 around onto the straight Silverstone? 1143 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,240 Oh, yeah. You know, and it's sort, that's 1144 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,680 sort of how it works. So I wasn't surprised. 1145 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,760 And, and honestly, Thompson wouldn't have had an issue with 1146 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,040 it, I don't think. I think knowing how he is and 1147 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,560 his personality and everything, he, you know, he's, he's all for 1148 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,200 dishing it out, but he wouldn't have been surprised at all to 1149 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,600 get that back from someone who's experienced as Ryder. 1150 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,960 The Accord pilot was uncharacteristically forgiving 1151 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,440 after the race saying I have the legs on record and got past him, 1152 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,400 but he repassed you and I had a trip through the gravel. 1153 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,720 There was a bit of an assist but I appreciate his position and 1154 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,200 probably would have done the same. 1155 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,720 Yet more chaos was unfolding behind as a battle between Neil 1156 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,040 Vincent Rademacher and Ivan Mueller reached boiling point. 1157 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,440 Mueller pulled off at cops with a puncture whilst the front of 1158 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,200 Rademacher's Vauxhall was damaged from hitting Neil's 1159 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,360 Primera and then Vincent. Rademacher using what's left of 1160 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,560 the front of his Vauxhall to barge Matt Neil out of the way. 1161 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,800 This scrap has been going on all race long. 1162 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,600 Muller Rademacher and Matt Neil side by side down the pitch 1163 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,440 straight. This is a. 1164 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,040 Complicated little bunch of bread. 1165 00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,240 Matt Neil forces Rademacher over towards the pit wall and 1166 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,680 amazingly, he's screwed. Nice. 1167 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,800 Nicely done. And that's Muller. 1168 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,760 Hey, Muller's a problem. OK, Muller's just dropped out of 1169 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,880 that race, but his issue is we're running out of laps fast 1170 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,480 here. But these two still going out of 1171 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,880 hammer and Tom kneel in front. Ratamaka coming back at him now. 1172 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:19,400 Never. Say dive. 1173 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,360 Vincent Ratamaka. Like a pair of little terriers 1174 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,840 squabbling in the kennel, neither prepared to concede 1 1175 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,800 inch still. Side by side down towards Abbey 1176 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:33,160 Corner, banging panels that Neil seems to have the corner but 1177 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,480 Ratamaka is going to muscle his way through Izzy. 1178 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:40,400 He pushes him out of the way. Isn't that more like, oh, it 1179 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,640 almost picks up David Leslie and the Nissan, as well as more like 1180 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,920 an episode of the Three Stooges than a motor race? 1181 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,560 Take that, take that, push him off. 1182 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,880 So. The pair finally ran into each 1183 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,840 other at Abby, with Rademacher on the inside. 1184 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,360 Neil ran wide, the Vauxhall was delayed and David Leslie passed 1185 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,800 them both. Greg, a good battle between 1186 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,720 Rademacher and Neil there, or a little bit too much for you? 1187 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,760 No, it wasn't too much. I thought it was great. 1188 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,080 It was great. TVI suppose it was too much for 1189 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,200 Matt Neil's point of view. Rademacher was actually on the 1190 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,040 grass on the inside, as Matt mentioned before, because he was 1191 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,520 marshalling there. But Rademacher was completely 1192 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:18,200 locked up. Actually. 1193 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,480 There was smoke pouring off his tires trying to get it stopped. 1194 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,880 He's on the grass. It was just a mess of a corner, 1195 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,120 really. A little bit similar to menu 1196 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,120 headbutting Klenandoff 2 years earlier. 1197 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,480 Yeah, with a voxel involved in that one as well, obviously. 1198 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,120 But great stuff from Leslie, wasn't it? 1199 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,400 Real opportunities. We obviously saw that coming and 1200 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:36,960 he positioned himself brilliantly and straight 1201 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,440 through. And the Pro Motorsport Nissan, 1202 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,720 which had been driven by Colin Blair hadn't it for most of the 1203 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,800 season, was through. And it was nice to see that 1204 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,960 other Nissan independent team having some success. 1205 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,200 And he would have actually finished ahead of Neil, I guess, 1206 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,040 in that race, wouldn't he, as the top independent. 1207 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,440 Yeah, as Alex said earlier, Vincent Rademacher seems to be 1208 01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,600 all over the place, just causing carnage all across that race 1209 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:01,760 weekend. Alex. 1210 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,080 Was it good for you to see Leslie up there and performing 1211 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,160 well in the Pro Motorsport Nissan too? 1212 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,360 Yeah, it. Was nice to see that car up at 1213 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:14,800 the sharp end because Colin Blair, bless him, didn't didn't 1214 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:19,600 get much out of it. In fact, he would quite often be 1215 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,000 a few seconds a lap off the pace. 1216 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,440 So yeah, to have that car up there and competitive, it 1217 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:30,000 reminds me a bit of when Will Hoy jumped in the arena Laguna 1218 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,600 in 99 when Russell Spence was having similar levels of luck 1219 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,840 with with that Renault and Holly got in the car. 1220 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,760 And when two or three independent races, I don't think 1221 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,240 Leslie won this one. I think that going on the last 1222 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:50,120 lap, sadly, which is a shame because it would have been nice 1223 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,200 to have seeing David of a bit of silverware, but he finished 1224 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,200 sixth in this race. So, you know, fair play as as 1225 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,560 the as the Pro motorsport team went, that was that was a pretty 1226 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,960 good result. And and dare I say it, that 1227 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,160 shows just how good Matt was performing because David was in 1228 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,880 a 99 Nissan that he had driven all last year. 1229 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,040 And still, Matt, admittedly, it wasn't prepared to the same 1230 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,840 level of RML with Pro Motorsport. 1231 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,120 And I don't think I'm doing them a disservice by saying that. 1232 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,160 But yeah, Matt was beating Leslie in a 98 Premiera. 1233 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,920 So you know, we've already mentioned it, but fair play to 1234 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,680 to Matt. He was really getting the most 1235 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:36,720 out of that car this this weekend. 1236 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,880 I was also thinking it was quite ironic just going back briefly 1237 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,280 to the pass between Rydell and Thompson at Maggots because 1238 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,160 Thompson put a great pass on Rydell there. 1239 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,760 Remember in 98 in the Honda and the Volbert it was almost roles 1240 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,800 reversed wasn't it? Not quite the same move, but 1241 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,120 very similar. Christensen won, but what did 1242 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:55,960 the results mean for the championship? 1243 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,480 I'll let the protagonists explain. 1244 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,040 Yeah, I mean. Obviously, no, I don't drop 1245 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,360 that. These two. 1246 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:08,440 Points anymore so I'm on 184 so I need to finish in the first 3. 1247 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,080 3rd. Minimum third Friday. 1248 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,520 Wins doesn't matter. I'm champion as long as Anthony 1249 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,760 is. No better than two places. 1250 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,160 Behind me. So it's all to. 1251 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,720 Play for it. Won't be. 1252 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,360 Easy. It's very, very tight. 1253 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,640 So I think I mean, I haven't. I'm not a mathematician, I never 1254 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,600 will be. But. 1255 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,080 I just got the feelings very tight. 1256 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,720 It could go any one of three ways between Ricard Allen 1257 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,720 myself, so. I'm sure it's going to be very 1258 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,280 exciting. For all concerns. 1259 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:46,200 Tonight. 30 laps were to decide the final ever Super Touring 1260 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:54,440 champion of the BTCC, Ricard Rydell founded the reckoning in 1261 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,440 the cruelest way possible when his Mondeo, which had a new 1262 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,120 engine for the feature race, sprung a water leak on the grid. 1263 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:07,040 I've had the pace but not the luck this year, Read the speed, 1264 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,880 Adam. That must be a really tough way 1265 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,320 to miss out on a chance of a title, even though it was a bit 1266 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,280 more remote for Riccard by that point. 1267 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,920 Yeah, absolutely devastating because I'm sure he was still 1268 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,120 mathematically with the chance if if he didn't win the race and 1269 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,600 the other two, you know, out of DNF, which everything was 1270 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,360 possible. And look what the outcome of 1271 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,800 menu was after his DNF. So yeah, absolutely devastating. 1272 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,360 I think it's especially when it wasn't a fault of his own, like 1273 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,240 in a racing incident or anything like that. 1274 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,040 You know, this was something that was completely out of his 1275 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,480 hands and like you've you're virtually about to start the 1276 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,960 race and then you discover it like you couldn't have left it 1277 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,640 any later to find this out. So I think that, yeah, just 1278 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,880 absolutely devastating. I mean, what you know, for the 1279 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,040 team to tell you like we've got a problem, we've got a water 1280 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,200 light and we can't fix it. We need to push you off the 1281 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,080 grid. Like no. 1282 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:06,680 Words really, but you can only imagine, can't you, what that 1283 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,320 would have felt like it. Especially when you with the 1284 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,760 chance, if another driver that you're not in with a chance of 1285 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,880 winning the race or even the championship, yeah, you're 1286 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,440 gutted and it's not the way you want to finish the season or 1287 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,800 that era really. But when you've actually got a 1288 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,720 chance of winning. It doesn't. 1289 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,880 Get much tougher than that. Rozelle really had the bad luck 1290 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,080 of the of the Mondeo was when it came to reliability that year. 1291 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,920 There were a few occasions where his Mondeo broke down or 1292 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,880 something broke on the car in the middle of a race or or 1293 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,000 whatnot. Do we know why? 1294 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,760 They had to change the engine for that last race I remember. 1295 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,280 I think, I think Charlie Cox said on the grid what they were 1296 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,640 getting water in the cylinder heads for some reason. 1297 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:43,560 Oh, that's. Right. 1298 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,040 Yeah, yeah. But yeah. 1299 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:47,640 Yeah, how? Unfortunate though. 1300 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:52,160 Kristensen LED from pole with Thompson jumping menu to make it 1301 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:57,360 a Honda 1/2 into Cops menu, hung onto Thompson's bum pillow and 1302 01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,680 pounced after Thompson caught a big slide as he came out of 1303 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,920 bridge. Down through Bridge Corner for 1304 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,280 the first time, still looking to fight big. 1305 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,560 Slide there from James Thompson and menu. 1306 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,600 Seize the opportunity. Muscles down the inside takes 1307 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,920 the pass Tough stuff. Thompson have trouble now 1308 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,160 defending trying to fight back. He's in fourth position. 1309 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,120 Not for long. That's a bottom. 1310 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,400 It's Matt Neely, independent in the Nissan. 1311 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,520 He muscles passed as well. I just went for it. 1312 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:26,680 I decided I was going through whatever and it works, said Menu 1313 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,080 Greg With the championship on the line, that's a ballsy move 1314 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,760 from menu there, isn't it? That was a great move actually, 1315 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,000 wasn't it? Thompson had a big wobble on 1316 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,960 between Bridge and Priory and many people would argue Anthony 1317 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,560 Reed lost this championship. But you can also very much argue 1318 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,280 that Alan Menu won it, can't you, because he had some great 1319 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,240 drives that year. He was quick in all the token 1320 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,120 test pre season. I think he was first and or 1321 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:54,120 second in pretty much every test pre season when the first race 1322 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,920 at Brands had a really good brands win in mixed conditions 1323 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,640 at the the later season brands meeting. 1324 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,480 And that was a great move for many because had he not passed 1325 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,520 Thompson there, he might not have got him all race long once 1326 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,080 had settled in. So he he took advantage, didn't 1327 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,680 have that wobble from Thompson and and he won the championship 1328 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,280 in some ways with that move. I thought it was a really, it 1329 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,320 was classic out of menu actually, wasn't it in many 1330 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:16,960 ways. Yeah, it's a great move. 1331 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,120 Meanwhile. Reed was struggling and on lap 1332 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,840 five he was passed by Van Mueller for 5th. 1333 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,640 The Scott later admitted it took a while for the car to settle. 1334 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,720 Alex wasn't looking good for Anthony at this point, was it? 1335 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,200 No. And again, I mean, we've we've 1336 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:37,560 already mentioned it several times. 1337 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:41,040 It's just another example of Anthony not being able to settle 1338 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,840 something which he was great at all year. 1339 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:49,120 But when it came to the final reckoning, he, I don't want to 1340 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,720 say bottled it. I don't think that's fair. 1341 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:55,880 He didn't bottle it, but he became very insular and yeah, 1342 01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,520 just there was just no need for it. 1343 01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,720 Just just do you. He, he should have gone out 1344 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:06,920 fighting. You know, it's, it's a tough 1345 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,520 one, isn't it? But yeah, Anthony really, really 1346 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:13,240 didn't do himself any favours this weekend and this was just 1347 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,080 another example. Just couldn't settle the car. 1348 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,640 With every point counting Read a Menu each ensured that they 1349 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,600 scored a point for leading the race. 1350 01:08:22,359 --> 01:08:26,080 Reed was the last to pip and rejoined fifth behind Plato, 1351 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:30,720 Thompson, Menu and Christensen, who led by some 6 seconds. 1352 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,240 A typical gutsy drive from Plato was dragging his vector up the 1353 01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,240 order, while teammate Vincent Rademacher seemed more intent on 1354 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,880 biffing his roles into the darkness to progress. 1355 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,600 First it was Tarquini who was hit at Priory. 1356 01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:49,800 Both went sideways, but the Vauxhall came out on top. 1357 01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:53,080 Adam. We've mentioned it a couple of 1358 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,880 times already on this episode, but it was a pretty physical 1359 01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,439 night for Rademacher in what would be his final BTCC race. 1360 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,600 Yeah, I think you could just the music, you could play over the 1361 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,840 top of all these maneuvers. Let's get physical, I mean. 1362 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,760 I mean. Like that's, that's literally 1363 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,240 what he did for two races, yeah. Amongst others throughout the 1364 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,279 season. But he, he and you look at the 1365 01:09:16,279 --> 01:09:18,800 footage, he was quite hard. He actually, I mean he, it's so 1366 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,479 hard to overtake into there generally because you carry 1367 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,279 quite a lot of speed in there. So if you to actually get a 1368 01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:27,040 manoeuvre done properly clean, you know, he's a tough thing to 1369 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,840 do. That's why you'll always see any 1370 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,359 manoeuvre sort of done really as you're coming out of bridge, 1371 01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:34,560 you've got that momentum coming out of bridge and you're just 1372 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,120 getting your nose belong towards the back of the bumper and then 1373 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,399 you make the move. You seem to come back from quite 1374 01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:41,960 a long way and talk when he's broke legs as well. 1375 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,600 And, and, but you actually look at the the footage and you can 1376 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,960 hear the sound of the bang actually from inside Tark when 1377 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:50,080 he's on board footage, you can hear the crash coming into the 1378 01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:50,680 side. So. 1379 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:53,200 He was. Coming through where the Tark 1380 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,720 when he likes it or not, to be honest. 1381 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:59,560 But yeah, it was a tough move That that was, that was, that 1382 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,880 was, you know, if that might have been towed, Well, I 1383 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,240 probably, I don't know. It depends where you apply. 1384 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,920 You want to take things. But it wasn't Tuck when he 1385 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,000 didn't do anything wrong. I don't think he did anything to 1386 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,080 deserve it. And and when you force your way 1387 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,800 through that hard, that means the manoeuvre was never on. 1388 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,320 And I'm joking here obviously, but the fact it was the last 1389 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,600 Toker race and it would have been 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning 1390 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,000 rather time the stewards looked at it probably just went. 1391 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:22,880 Home. Yeah, he. 1392 01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,400 Didn't give a crap. He didn't crap. 1393 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,080 We just thought sadly. So I'm just going for it. 1394 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,880 And I think the way we watched, you know, we could see all these 1395 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,160 manoeuvres that he was pulling off. 1396 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,760 It seemed like that, like he just didn't care. 1397 01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:34,520 Like. Well, that's one of the things 1398 01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,440 that is great though, isn't it, about front wheel drive touring 1399 01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:38,640 cars, The fact you can just floor the throttle with a load 1400 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,640 of smoke pouring off the front tires and and keep it going. 1401 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:42,960 I mean, it's what an amazing man. 1402 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,200 I think Charlie Cox said. Ladies and gentlemen, take your 1403 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,400 partners, please, because they were both sideways. 1404 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:49,960 Yes, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, the headlights. 1405 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,600 It was a great, a great TV moment. 1406 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,720 It must have been great to witness that if you were 1407 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,640 watching trackside. Yeah, I'd just say I felt sorry 1408 01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,920 for Rademacher that yeah, because there were team orders 1409 01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:02,480 weren't there within Vauxhall. And it was clearly, certainly 1410 01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:05,000 earlier in the season. Mullet #1, Plato 2, Rademacher 1411 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,560 3. He wasn't even a #2 driver. 1412 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,880 He was a #3 driver. He had to. 1413 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,800 I remember he him having to give his car up. 1414 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,800 Yes. Mueller commanded his car was 1415 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,760 his nettleton after he trashed his car. 1416 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:20,400 Yeah, yeah, just so by the back. I think by that point he didn't, 1417 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,200 he didn't really he. Didn't care. 1418 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,240 He just smashed his way through probably. 1419 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,480 Knew he didn't have a drive next season so yeah. 1420 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:32,160 Plato battled past Thompson who then pitted for a punctured tyre 1421 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,800 with four laps to go. This elevated Reed to 4th and if 1422 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:41,880 Plato took Menu 2nd place and he was catching fast, the Scott 1423 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,960 would be champion. With three laps to go. 1424 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:49,080 The tension was unbearable and Rademacher was now challenging 1425 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,600 Reed for 4th. Down the pitch, straight 1426 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,280 Rademacher trying to draft around through Cop's corner. 1427 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,000 He's getting closer, not further away. 1428 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,120 This is a problem for Anthony Reed over the rise. 1429 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:00,960 Now here's the view from Rademacher's car. 1430 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,880 Let's read right ahead of us. And then he's trying to defend 1431 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,840 Vincent is trying to ease his way around. 1432 01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,800 There's a left and a right coming up here. 1433 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,680 There's the left, here's the right and Reed is around. 1434 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,240 I don't know if there was contact, but Reed sliding across 1435 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,440 the track and off and in the gravel. 1436 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:16,680 Well, that's. Awful. 1437 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,600 Anthony Reed, His championship was gone. 1438 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,560 I couldn't tell if there was contact or not. 1439 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,640 If it was, it was very slight, but if there was, it doesn't 1440 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:24,640 really matter. It's over. 1441 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,800 And those. Faces really tell the story that 1442 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,400 has really shot the fox. Rademacher drove into the back 1443 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,760 of Reed at Beckett's and pushed him on day off into the gravel. 1444 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:39,000 Reed's championship was over and after the race he could barely 1445 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,880 find words to describe his anger. 1446 01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,480 There is no point talking to him. 1447 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,640 It is way beyond talking, Reed said after the race. 1448 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,640 Once I got into 4th, it felt like I had one hand on the 1449 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:55,480 trophy, Greg thought. Something all pretty gutting way 1450 01:12:55,480 --> 01:12:57,120 for Reed season to end, wasn't it? 1451 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,360 Yeah, One thought I will just throw in is that I think Jason 1452 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,480 Plato had a magnificent race because he was 8th or 9th coming 1453 01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:06,600 out of the first quarter on the opening lap and fought his way 1454 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:07,760 back through. Obviously there was a bit of 1455 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,440 carnage ahead, people having punctures and Mother had a 1456 01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:14,440 puncture as well as Thompson didn't even Even so, yeah. 1457 01:13:14,440 --> 01:13:16,760 What a shame. People forget how close that 1458 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,640 season was, don't they? A bit like F1 was very close 1459 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,480 that year with Hakkinen and Schumacher and it's almost like 1460 01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:25,440 the forgotten season. And you know, with the the 2000 1461 01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:28,680 year there it was two points, it was two points. 1462 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,720 It was the closest ever margin in the whole of the Super 1463 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,720 Touring era. We had had three between Harvey 1464 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:39,000 and Hoy in 92, but we ended with the closest ever championship. 1465 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,400 But again, it felt like Reid put himself. 1466 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,640 It's easy for me to say this, but it's it's as though Reid was 1467 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,120 just being overly defensive. Yeah, it didn't need to be. 1468 01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,560 Again, like I just said before, Rademack is coming. 1469 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,480 Let the bloody guy past. Of all the. 1470 01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:59,240 People let him past yeah, just like Menu did when Playtake came 1471 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,440 up behind him. It's play sound like it's only 1472 01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:03,240 going to go on my if he's trying to get Yeah because. 1473 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,800 Menu Also menu must have had the presence of mind to be 1474 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,360 calculating that because he I guess he wouldn't have let Plato 1475 01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:09,920 pass the. Breed Absolutely no. 1476 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:13,200 Generally, absolutely no, you wouldn't, but he thought. 1477 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,520 But you swallow your pride at times and just let it be. 1478 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:19,680 But it's almost like, like, like Rady's hair had just completely 1479 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:24,960 gone and, and he didn't think about it like we were winning a 1480 01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,760 championship, you know, like a champions win really well. 1481 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,400 And it was. It was similar to as well, 1482 01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:30,120 wasn't it? I didn't. 1483 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,960 It was the way we're spin around from the rear quarter it almost 1484 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,800 identical what? Were you the first race? 1485 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,080 Why are you putting the fight in? 1486 01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:37,600 Why? Why are you putting the fight in 1487 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,680 like you're at Knock Hill or part what? 1488 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,240 Why are you you? You've just won the previous 1489 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:47,120 race at Knock at Alton Bar. What just do you do the do you 1490 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,040 normal professional the the right thing? 1491 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,320 And that's why I just find it really disappointed. 1492 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,760 I generally think his head went with it all because the. 1493 01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,280 The quote Once I got into 4th, I felt like I had one hand on the 1494 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:02,240 trophy. That's him defending 4th at all 1495 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:07,040 costs against Rademacher and that, you know, I suppose he 1496 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,600 would need to hold on to 4th to win the championship. 1497 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,000 So. Because even if he had stayed in 1498 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:17,080 Fourth and that hadn't happened, he still needed help elsewhere. 1499 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,680 He still. Needed Plato to get past menu 1500 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,800 and that was so. He was closely quick because 1501 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,200 that would have you know. It was. 1502 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,240 So mad, but it's the permutation it all. 1503 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:29,720 Went wrong in race one, didn't it? 1504 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,000 Yeah. If he didn't let Tarquini 1505 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,760 through, yeah. Yeah. 1506 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,000 If he didn't let Tarquini through, he might have ended up 1507 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,200 5th, whereas instead he ended up 8th, I think so. 1508 01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:44,640 There's just four or five points, yeah. 1509 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:45,960 Yeah, that's the. Difference the sort of tags you 1510 01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,680 only got to win by one of you. Yeah, because also there was no 1511 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,080 obvious mistake Reed had made earlier on in the year. 1512 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,000 You couldn't really look back as I'm just looking down the 1513 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:54,720 calendar thinking what happened earlier in the year. 1514 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,200 Did he throw something away here or lost big points there? 1515 01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,160 He didn't really. He was Mr. Consistency in the 1516 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:01,960 2000, wasn't he? Which is. 1517 01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,160 Why he had to drop points but. Yes, exactly. 1518 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:09,440 I mean, Reed did race and finish the most laps of any other 1519 01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:11,680 driver in the whole of that campaign, but ended up dropping 1520 01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:12,680 points. God I. 1521 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,520 Hate drop scores and. Alex, you did say before, I 1522 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,240 think I can't remember whether we were recording, but a bit 1523 01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:22,200 like Levi mentioned earlier as well tonight before we started 1524 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,240 Center and Prost, yes, scored more points than centre in 88, 1525 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,000 but because of drop scores lost the championship. 1526 01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,880 Reed scored the most points, didn't. 1527 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,240 He did. Yeah. 1528 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,880 Yeah, he did. So I've got the table here. 1529 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:39,440 Alan Menu scored 195. Anthony Reed with drop scores. 1530 01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:42,320 As you said, Greg, the two point cap at 193. 1531 01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,400 But if there were no drop scores, really would have had 1532 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,960 201 points, would have won the title by 6 points. 1533 01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,160 So galling. Very, very galling. 1534 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,120 Then again. Could you argue that's just 1535 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,800 about devil's advocate here, knowing you've got to drop 4 1536 01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,000 scores when the season begins, is it better off taking a risk 1537 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,480 sometimes and going for win or burst, knowing if you do go off 1538 01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:03,800 you're going to drop the score anyway? 1539 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,960 I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. 1540 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,920 There's different ways because it is the same for everyone. 1541 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,560 You could argue I mean looking. At his, you know, racing career 1542 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,920 in touring cars pre and post 2000, Anthony Reed wasn't very 1543 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,880 Mr. Conservative, was he? You know, he was normally he's 1544 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,600 normally ended up annoying somebody. 1545 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:22,760 Yeah. And. 1546 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,680 And. And he'd often get into scrapes 1547 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,520 with high pressure. Yeah, it was always. 1548 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:31,720 Aggressive, the amount of post race arguments he ended up with. 1549 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:37,000 Rydell, Thompson and Muller, Matt Neil, they've all, they've 1550 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,640 all had arguments with him, mostly at Brands Hatched, yeah. 1551 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,040 Alan, Alan. Menu in 97. 1552 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,880 Menu in 90. Seven, He wound up a lot of 1553 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:49,240 drivers with his with his driving standards before. 1554 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:55,680 So very unusual to see Reid behaving so sensibly. 1555 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:57,800 I don't. Think he was carrying around 40 1556 01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:59,320 kilos of ballast. Yeah, yeah. 1557 01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,880 Yeah. Like so he wasn't going to be 1558 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,520 the fastest 1. He was going to struggle in 1559 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,600 certain that's chance the circuit. 1560 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:10,560 So you're carrying that that burden almost of of what what's 1561 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,120 happening. So sometimes you just got 1562 01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,400 conceived and just like I let him by doesn't matter. 1563 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,800 Like just it's hard and obviously it's one of the 1564 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:19,680 hardest things you could possibly do as a racing driver 1565 01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,400 is to think that way is to let somebody pass. 1566 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,720 But that's where you've just got to be clever about it and think 1567 01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,200 this, this is it. Now everything that I've done 1568 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,720 this season has come down to this and sometimes you've just 1569 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:34,000 got a box. Clever Ave. 1570 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,880 That is true actually though, because maybe we're being a bit 1571 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,320 too hard on really because you had the ballast. 1572 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,280 The Hondas were very quick on the international circuit at 1573 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:43,760 Silverstone. They had the best straight line 1574 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,920 speed of anyone that year. And that's already you're going 1575 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,240 to be what, 6th or 7th by default or most aren't. 1576 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:49,320 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 1577 01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:51,880 So he's carrying that going in the yes, championship leader, 1578 01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,440 however, he was carrying the most ballast. 1579 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:58,160 I just felt he could have tackled those that weekend, that 1580 01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:02,720 race, that day differently. And I'm sure he looks back on 1581 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:07,440 that now and thinks the same. Place, Who did pass Menu when 1582 01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:09,560 the Swiss made room on the penultimate lap? 1583 01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:13,200 Alan's no full. I was flashing my lights and he 1584 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:17,360 had a championship at stake. Had Reed still been in the race, 1585 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,120 Menu was confident he could have helped Plato back. 1586 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:24,640 He was very fast, but if I had to defend he would have stayed 1587 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,840 behind. Alex, do you agree with Alan 1588 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,080 there? Do you think he'd have held off 1589 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,200 Plato? It really came to it. 1590 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,040 I'm not sure really. I don't don't know if you can 1591 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:39,560 say definitely either either way, but what I do know is that 1592 01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:44,520 Jason suffered a little bit at the hands of Alan at Renault for 1593 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,400 a couple of years. They had a couple of set twos, 1594 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,640 didn't they? Yeah. 1595 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,600 I can imagine Jason wanting to put the shits of Alan a bit. 1596 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,960 Yes, I can imagine. That's why I like. 1597 01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:59,280 Just letting through, didn't they? 1598 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,240 Yeah, I'm not even going to go there. 1599 01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,160 I can. Imagine that, that, that that 1600 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,880 would have been very much. And he was catching him fast. 1601 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:13,080 So you can't say for sure. I would like to think that Plato 1602 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,600 would have been able to pass. And I'm, I'm rewriting it so 1603 01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,200 that really wins the championship here. 1604 01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,080 But yeah, I would like to think it would have happened. 1605 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:25,200 But I don't know. Alan was pretty gutsy that day, 1606 01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,040 wasn't he? As Greg said about that pass on 1607 01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:32,880 the open lap, he wasn't afraid to sort of get stuck in. 1608 01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:37,480 So I'm not sure. I would like to think it would 1609 01:20:37,480 --> 01:20:40,840 have happened and really would have won the title and would 1610 01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,600 have. He would have deserved a title, 1611 01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,720 but Alan was not going to let go of that title easily either, was 1612 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,920 he So. So what of Christensen, the last 1613 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:54,800 man to win a BTCC Super Touring race in the UK but almost 1614 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:59,360 forgotten the title melee. It's been a frustrating season 1615 01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,200 so it's good to end on a high note. 1616 01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:06,120 I had all the luck today. It was a masterful performance 1617 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,560 from the Dane, but he was right about the luck. 1618 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,840 Just ask Anthony Reed and Richard Rydell about their luck. 1619 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,600 Adam, a double win. Not a bad way to sign off from 1620 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,400 your time in the BTCC is it? Absolute perfect. 1621 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,800 It was just absolutely perfect. I think he had a it was a first 1622 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:26,080 class performance from him really. 1623 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:28,960 And and he was a first class driver and I think you saw more 1624 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,480 of that as the years went on with what he achieved with 1625 01:21:31,480 --> 01:21:34,240 Lamont and, you know, you put your money on him winning and 1626 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:39,040 and he just absolutely top class driver in every way. 1627 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,880 An Ambassador Ferraldi. I believe he still is. 1628 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,160 And you know, he's brilliant. So yeah, to sign your season off 1629 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,720 like that, absolutely brilliant. You couldn't really want from 1630 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:50,560 anymore, really. The car was quick and like I've 1631 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:54,880 said before about some of the easiest races, the ones that you 1632 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:58,280 win because you're at the front, you start at the front, you're 1633 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,200 out of the main lie of all the shenanigans that can be going on 1634 01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,200 elsewhere and wrong place, wrong time moments. 1635 01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,120 You got cars to your left to your right in front of you, 1636 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,680 behind you. And as we know in BTCC racing, 1637 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,240 anything can happen at any time, but to just be in that position 1638 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,600 at the front, just to have the car quick enough to win the 1639 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:20,360 perfect races are and then the easiest ones that you'll ever 1640 01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,480 with and you just did what you needed to do. 1641 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,120 We had the car to do it, which was really good. 1642 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:31,320 Meanwhile, Alan Menu became the only person to win two BTCC 1643 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:36,080 titles in the Super Touring era. Let's hear his faults after the 1644 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,880 race and this. Man, Alan Menu, well done. 1645 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,920 Congratulations champ. The year 2000 champion Alan 1646 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:48,000 Menu, tell us how you feeling? Much better than 97. 1647 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:50,160 It's amazing. I mean on the. 1648 01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:53,920 I think I started to cry with two corners to go. 1649 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:55,560 On that. Last lap. 1650 01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:57,280 Just. Amazing. 1651 01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,800 You know, after that first race where I went off and then I knew 1652 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,400 I had to finish in the first 3. And. 1653 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,200 For Anthony Reid not to finish better than 5th. 1654 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,400 And so I I. I pushed and I got Thompson at 1655 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:08,840 the. Priori. 1656 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,440 On lap 2, I think it was, I was like there I, you know, like 1657 01:23:12,440 --> 01:23:14,440 daring move, but. I thought I've got nothing to 1658 01:23:14,440 --> 01:23:16,680 lose and then I mean the car was. 1659 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:18,160 Fantastic. And the guys did. 1660 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,400 A very good pit stop and then I drove it well and. 1661 01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:21,840 I'm. Very, very happy. 1662 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,560 Greg over the course of that season, a dessert accolade for 1663 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:30,960 menu. No doubt about it whatsoever you 1664 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,920 heard that, how emotional he was saying it meant a lot more than 1665 01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,240 97. And just think 97 was the 1666 01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,440 culmination of finishing second in the championship for the 1667 01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:42,280 previous three years. Guitar Queenie, Clayton and 1668 01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:47,320 Beela, but the challenge Menu had in 2000 up against Anthony 1669 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,160 Reed, who'd already been teammate with the year before 1670 01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,760 they developed that car together, and Ricard Rydell. 1671 01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,800 I mean, what a challenge. All in the same car, same team, 1672 01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,400 same people around there. You could say in some ways, you 1673 01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:04,080 know, that 2000 title was won by whether it had been Reed or Menu 1674 01:24:04,440 --> 01:24:09,000 by their decision to switch to Ford in 1998. 1675 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,880 Bearing in mind one of them was a well paid Renault factory 1676 01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,560 driver and the reigning champion at the time. 1677 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,280 The other was a well paid Nissan driver, even better paid at Ford 1678 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,000 as we now know. But they had that presence of 1679 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,080 mind, didn't they? To think ahead to the future 1680 01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,240 isn't easily done in life in general, is it? 1681 01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:29,120 So both Reed and Menu had that foresight back in 98 to think 1682 01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:30,280 where, where, where are we going to go? 1683 01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,920 How's this going to pan out? You know, they obviously had a 1684 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:34,720 lot of connections in racing and in the paddock. 1685 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:39,160 So that was clever, very clever. But let's have no mistakes, as 1686 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:43,560 unfortunate as it is for for Anthony Reed, Allan Menu as we 1687 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:48,400 all, we collectively decided in our previous series was the best 1688 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,360 driver in the Super Touring era, one of the best touring car 1689 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:55,120 drivers worldwide we have ever seen and the best of that era. 1690 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:58,640 It is fitting that if anyone was to win two titles in the Super 1691 01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:02,200 Touring era, it was at our menu because it was brilliantly done 1692 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,680 and he was so clever in 2000 in the way he looked at the format. 1693 01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,400 Where can I drop some scores? Where might I not want the 1694 01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,480 success ballast? Drop a place here or there, but 1695 01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:14,920 right from day one Rosny from the first Toker test pre season 1696 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:19,560 before Brands Hatch, he was the man in the year 2000. 1697 01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,600 Do you know what? No one was. 1698 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:25,840 Surprised were they go on I'm. Reminded of that pre season 1699 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:30,560 piece they did on the live episode and they asked all the 1700 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,480 drivers who they thought was going to win it and everyone 1701 01:25:33,480 --> 01:25:38,480 else said someone else true and Allan menu turned to the camera 1702 01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:41,800 and said if I've got to tip someone it has to be me yeah and 1703 01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:45,560 then just and then just winked yes yeah he. 1704 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,800 Menu was the Schumacher of the Super Touring era, wasn't it? 1705 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,680 There's no doubt about it, He. Was no doubt about it. 1706 01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:55,360 Absolutely. It is. 1707 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,560 Now that time of the show to head over to producer Matt, who 1708 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,680 hopefully has got some status for us. 1709 01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:07,640 I hope, yes. Certainly do so as we as we 1710 01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:12,200 know, the wonderful drop points system hurt Anthony Reed, 1711 01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:15,480 costing the championship. There were two other drivers 1712 01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,400 that year who also lost points in the end, and they were Ivan 1713 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,760 Mueller and Matt Neal, but neither of whom actually lost a 1714 01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,160 position in the championship. As a result, the Silverstone 1715 01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:29,000 feature race was the eighth time in the 24 races of 2000 where 1716 01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,480 the podium featured 1 Ford, 1 Honda and one Vauxhall. 1717 01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:36,120 On a further 3 occasions, there were three different makes of 1718 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,600 car on the podium as Matt Neil's Nissan joined 1 Honda and one 1719 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,840 Ford. So in virtually half the races, 1720 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,400 three different types of car on the podium. 1721 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,200 And I think that shows the competitiveness of the series 1722 01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:51,960 despite fewer cars, yeah. You wouldn't have said that if 1723 01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,000 you just looked on 2000 as a whole. 1724 01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,000 That really surprises me actually, because everyone would 1725 01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:58,600 just go off. Ford walked it, but they 1726 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:05,080 actually didn't, and that shows. So during 2000, despite 1727 01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,360 finishing on the podium five times, Matt Neil never shared 1728 01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:09,960 the podium with a Vauxhall driver. 1729 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,320 This, this next one, this next 1 is my favorite. 1730 01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,120 It's one that it's one that I uncovered, and then I checked it 1731 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,280 three more times just to make sure it was true. 1732 01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:26,200 There was at least one Ford on the podium in every single race, 1733 01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,120 really. I. 1734 01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,960 Didn't, I didn't know that until a couple of days ago. 1735 01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:35,840 And I've, I've looked it up again and again and even a few 1736 01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,800 minutes ago, because that really surprises me. 1737 01:27:38,440 --> 01:27:40,960 But yeah, in every single race there was at least one Ford on 1738 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:42,040 the podium. Yeah. 1739 01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,760 I can. I'm looking at the the grid of 1740 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,680 results on Wikipedia. Now. 1741 01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,680 There was times that it was only one, but they were certainly 1742 01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:50,240 there. Yeah. 1743 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,840 So that. Explains again why they were. 1744 01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,240 Let's just put this into perspective. 1745 01:27:54,840 --> 01:28:00,160 Ford was 104 points ahead in the Manufacturers Championship with 1746 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:04,720 only two rifles. Yeah, yes, yeah, that's mad. 1747 01:28:05,480 --> 01:28:08,120 It's. A It's a it's a statistic that 1748 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,200 helps go on to the next fact, which is that the 72 overall 1749 01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:15,920 podium finishes for the season, Ford took 34 of them, which any 1750 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,600 Carol of alderman's out there, that's very nearly half of them, 1751 01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:23,000 half of all the podiums. Honda took 17 and Vauxhall took 1752 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,480 16, with the final five being taken by Matt Neil. 1753 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,280 So my. My final little set of stats. 1754 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:30,600 It starts with a question for you. 1755 01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,640 Let's pop you on the spot here. So in in the whole of the Super 1756 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:39,640 Touring era, what won more races, Ford Mondeo or the Honda 1757 01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:40,720 Accord? Oh. 1758 01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,280 I'm gonna. Go with the EI. 1759 01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:46,240 Mondeo is the first one, I would think. 1760 01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,280 I'm just trying to think about this because they had so many 1761 01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,880 wins in 2000, didn't they? So what? 1762 01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:51,680 Happened. Did they win it? 1763 01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,120 Menu 16 write down 1/3 and read 1/2. 1764 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,880 So that's 6789. That's 11 in 2009. 1765 01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,560 And then what? What the 495? 1766 01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,160 And it all went downhill. They went low, 161 each. 1767 01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:07,960 SO2-IN-95. One in 99 with menu, yeah. 1768 01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:12,160 One in 98 with Will Toy, Yeah. So what did I say? 1769 01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:15,960 2006 Seven eight 910-811-1213 How many rat? 1770 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:20,880 What about rat? Rat 6. 1-6, Ratat 16, Bert 1. 1771 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,760 Oh yeah, Bert 11. Yeah, but. 1772 01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:34,160 That was in 95 S Ratatitch 16 so 678 Wilhoi 9 menu and then 1773 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:40,040 however many it's. 19 in 2000. OK. 1774 01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,440 And then Honda. So Leslie won. 1775 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,720 Was it 2 in 96 with the 100 chord? 1776 01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,560 Are we talking about the 100 chord at the hold of this 4? 1777 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:52,200 Did he win 4 Leslie? Won four I think and or three I 1778 01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:53,480 I. Think it might be cool because 1779 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,040 they did get quite a few wins in 2000. 1780 01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,320 They were just, yeah. Yeah, yeah, 99. 1781 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:05,400 Jimmy T won four in 99. Peter Peter Cox won 198. 1782 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,120 Tomo won four or five, two in 97. 1783 01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:10,560 Yeah, I reckon it might be the accord you know did. 1784 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,920 Tarquini win in 97. Yes, he won. 1785 01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:14,600 One. Yeah. 1786 01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:16,280 One each. Yeah, one each. 1787 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,560 Two in 97 I. Want to say Honda? 1788 01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,120 How many did? Tomo Tomo went four in 99. 1789 01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,160 Did he? I reckon we could actually work 1790 01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:26,520 this out if we've got the patience. 1791 01:30:28,480 --> 01:30:30,120 We. Don't want to bore the listeners 1792 01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:30,840 though. I'm going. 1793 01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,560 To be I'm going. To plant, I'm going to plant my 1794 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,720 flag in the Honda. I am as well. 1795 01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,240 AM. I the only ones I'm getting the 1796 01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:40,920 Mondeo, then I'm going to be the outlier. 1797 01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:45,240 Here we go. Well. 1798 01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,840 I can tell you there was one in it. 1799 01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:52,960 So in its eight years in championship, the Mondeo took 1800 01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:57,320 twenty wins, and in its six years in the championship the 1801 01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,720 Accord took 21. Oh. 1802 01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,160 Well, how to have a go so? It was actually this weekend 1803 01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:12,040 that changed that, yes. So 11 of the Monday's twenty 1804 01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:16,840 wins came in 2007. Of Honda's 21 wins came in 2000, 1805 01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,760 The Vauxhall Vectra took ten wins during its five years in 1806 01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:25,480 the championship, meaning the Mondeo won more races in 2000 1807 01:31:25,480 --> 01:31:30,120 than the Vector did during Super Touring, and five of those 1808 01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,480 Vectra wins came in the year 2000 itself. 1809 01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,880 The. Final ever BTCC meeting held as 1810 01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,600 Super Touring regulations went with a bang as Alan Menu 1811 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,840 triumphed under the lights at Silverstone. 1812 01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:48,760 With there being plenty of uncertainty to the future of the 1813 01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:52,320 championship at the time, nobody knew quite what the series would 1814 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,040 look like once they headed to Brandon Thatch again for the 1815 01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,080 start of the 2001 season in April. 1816 01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,600 I'd like to thank Greg Haynes for joining us once again to 1817 01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,560 look back at this race and we hope we'll see your stories from 1818 01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,200 Super Touring again soon. Greg, thank you. 1819 01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:08,320 Very much, Levi. Thanks, guys. 1820 01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:12,160 It's been a pleasure and I will just add it's good the BBC and 1821 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,880 Charlie Cox and John Watson carried on into the next season 1822 01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:16,920 because I think that would have been a too big a change for the 1823 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:18,920 viewers, wouldn't it? If all the rules have changed 1824 01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:22,160 and the TV coverage, the whole look, that would have really 1825 01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,720 been a shock, I think. Thank you. 1826 01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:26,240 Very much. I've never really thought of 1827 01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:30,080 that, but that really would have just felt like an entirely 1828 01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:31,480 different show altogether, wouldn't it? 1829 01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:35,240 Yeah. It's I do like the way they they 1830 01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:37,560 closed it though. It was somebody switch the 1831 01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,240 lights off. Yeah, yeah. 1832 01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,800 Our thanks as ever go to you guys for listening to the show. 1833 01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,600 And if you enjoyed today's episode, please make sure to 1834 01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,920 give us the review five star rating and subscribe to the 1835 01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,640 podcast feed on your podcast app of choice. 1836 01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:55,480 In the meantime, we'll see you next week. 1837 01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:56,400 Goodbye.