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Take care. 
So, what's the difference 

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between rheumatoid arthritis and
osteoarthritis? 

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Think about this, the 
presentation? 

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Yeah, there is some 
similarities, the joint pain, of

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course, the female predominance 
age, things of that nature. 

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So there's a lot of overlap that
can happen. 

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So great way for the board to 
ask you questions. 

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However, One happens as wear and
tear. 

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While the other one is an 
autoimmune disease. 

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Let's learn about the disease 
process first, so it's 

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autoimmune. 
Meaning what our own immune 

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system is causing this damage. 
We've got elevated inflammatory 

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markers. 
What are some risk factors that 

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are going to lead. 
To rheumatoid arthritis is what 

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do I say? 
Risk factors and signs and 

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symptoms are your select all 
that apply questions. 

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Okay? 
Those are going to be a good 

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makeup of reselect other place. 
So what are some risk factors, 

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gender, family, history, or 
genetics? 

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Smoking positive rheumatoid 
Factor. 

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Anti cyclic to try, new lated, 
antibody ABS antibody. 

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And this is going to be your 
most specific test that you can 

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do. 
So this is the one that we're 

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going to want to do and then 
obviously an elevated ESR, you 

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see these different things. 
So what we can test for, as we 

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test for a positive rheumatoid 
Factor, Great that will, that 

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will help us diagnose it, but 
right off the bat, we don't 

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necessarily want to go right 
into rheumatoid factor or the 

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anti cyclic Citron elated 
antibody. 

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When a person presents, they're 
going to present with these 

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signs and symptoms of joint 
pain, maybe fatigue, maybe 

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fever. 
And I'll go through those signs 

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and symptoms, but we want to do 
an easier test a cheaper test. 

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So what we want to do is we want
to do an ESR, what is that? 

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That's an erythrocyte 
sedimentation rate with the 

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erythrocyte sedimentation rate, 
what is saying is you're saying 

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erythrocytes so that's your red 
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Sedimentation is how fast it 
falls to the bottom of Of your 

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tube. 
And the rate is actually how 

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fast it falls, right? 
So why do we do this test? 

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We do this testing inflammatory 
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It's not specific to rheumatoid 
arthritis but in any 

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inflammatory process we can do 
this test because it is cheap. 

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It's fast because what happens 
is when we have an inflammatory 

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process in our body, Release. 
Fibrinogen, which is 

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inflammatory marker and that 
fibrinogen. 

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It binds to the art, be season 
to your red blood cells. 

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So now that red blood cell that 
was floating around has its 

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inflammatory marker attached to 
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It's made it heavier, It's Made 
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Heavier when you have this 
inflammatory process in your 

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body, any inflammatory process 
in your body, You go for an ESR 

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because that erythrocyte 
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be higher. 
So that fibrinogen that's 

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released from inflammation, 
binds to the red blood cell, 

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makes it thicker, makes it 
heavier so that red blood cell. 

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Drops faster. 
ESR, it's not a specific test, 

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but it definitely can let us 
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That we have an inflammatory 
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Real life, right? 
For those of you that are in the

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course. 
So I say, when I break down labs

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and you look at them, you don't 
want to look at and say, oh 

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elevated ESR. 
Oh, they've elevated, limb 

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lymphocytes, or neutrophils? 
You know what it means, right? 

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That's why I'm just come out and
do so. 

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Well, in real life, what are 
some signs and symptoms that 

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we're going to see. 
We got to risk factors great, so

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I called applied question right 
there. 

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Understanding what we're going 
to do or what we would expect in

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lab values. 
What are some signs and symptoms

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that we're going to see? 
Well obviously I'm going to see 

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joint pain but more 
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When are we going to see in this
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In the morning or upon wakening.
I do. 

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I do like that. 
As a better term. 

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So upon Awakening, and it lasts 
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It lasts more than an hour. 
So you've got this pain morning,

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stiffness. 
And it will improve. 

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With use, it will improve with 
use. 

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It's an inflammatory process. 
I said osteoarthritis is wear 

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and tear. 
Do you think that rheumatoid 

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arthritis is going to be in one 
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Or do you think it's going to be
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That inflammatory process is not
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those joints? 
It's going after all of them and

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it likes to go after certain 
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And what you'll see is that 
Ulnar deviation ulnar deviation.

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So their hands. 
Will actually go out words yet. 

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I'm a horrible jar. 
This is my. 

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These are my hands. 
They're going out like this. 

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Alright, so you'll see this in 
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We'll also see it's an 
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So we're also going to see 
systemic issues, right? 

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And systemic issues that you're 
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With rheumatoid arthritis. 
If their bodies becoming 

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inflamed, their body's under 
stress, they're going to see 

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that low grade fever under that 
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If their body is constantly 
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disease, they're going to be 
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They may even experience weight 
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So when they wake up, we want to
be careful and educate them 

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because when they wake up 
they're going to be extremely 

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stiff. 
And at night time we want them 

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laying down straight, don't have
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It's going to make the process 
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So make sure that they are flat.
And if they need an immobilizer,

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Let them use one at night time 
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joints to get dysmorphia. 
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going to also cause tissue 
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So, all this that's going on. 
In their body. 

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Now they wake up and for about 
our they've got this joint pain,

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this stiffness, this fatigue, 
this swelling Tell them to take 

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a warm shower in the morning. 
Or warm bath because we want 

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those joints to get loose and we
want Mobility because it's going

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to take them an hour. 
And we know that if we are able 

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to have that blood circulation 
and that Mobility that it will 

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start to get better and better 
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the day. so, the problem with 
this is it affects their there, 

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daily Life right there, active 
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What's all this right here are 
signs and symptoms, perfect, 

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select all that. 
Apply question joint pain joint 

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pain upon Awakening for the 
first hour morning stiffness 

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improves with use warm shower or
more showers going to be more so

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education. 
They're going to experience 

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tissue swelling, weight loss, 
fatigue, fever, under 100.4. 

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It's going to be symmetric and 
you'll see that ulnar deviation.

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Owner deviation. 
Now that hand, if you guys have 

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not seen a picture of somebody 
rheumatoid arthritis, I want you

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to Google it. 
So with the joints that it's 

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going to affect. 
So this is your wrist. 

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So it's going to affect your 
wrist. 

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And then it's going to affect 
your proximal interphalangeal 

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joints, which are over here. 
These are your proximal 

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interphalangeal joints. 
These are your distal. 

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It does not affect your distal 
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Carpal phalangeal joint. 
Why is that so important? 

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Because if you just think about 
this, those joints are going to 

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now become the tissue around. 
It's going to be sold in those 

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joints are to become deformed 
and their hands are going to go 

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like this, so their activities 
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It's going to be tough. 
It's gonna be tough. 

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And that deformity is also going
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now, their body image is 
changing and that's, it's 

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something that you're going to 
see all the time, you can't just

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hide it under clothes. 
So people are going to start to 

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become self-conscious of it, 
right? 

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So very important to understand 
what's going on here because it 

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affects a lot of different 
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So what are we going to do about
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How are we going to treat this 
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Got to give them medications. 
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Well, we can't chronically take 
them, we've talked about that, 

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right? 
I talked about that a lot with 

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NSAIDs. 
We can't chronically, give it 

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coats our stomach. and when it 
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that lining goes away. 
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acid will eat at the lining and 
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So we can't clinically take 
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And it also causes constriction 
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the kidney. 
So the blood supply in the 

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kidney is going to be decreased.
So now we're going to have Renal

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issues. 
So, watch out for that person, 

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that's on a chronic NSAIDs 
because if this person has 

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rheumatoid arthritis and this is
exactly how I would word. 

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This question person comes in 
with the history of rheumatoid 

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arthritis and is that says that 
I don't need medication, I take 

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Ibuprofen over-the-counter four 
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You're gonna be like wait a 
minute, which of the following 

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statements is further teaching 
for the intervention moment. 

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100%, you're going to be looking
at that because you don't want 

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them chronically on NSAIDs. it 
will lead to ulcers or one of 

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ask graph, which is what 
Hemorrhage. 

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Right? 
You'll see that black tardy 

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story will start to see that 
pain so we want to educate them 

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that NSAIDs are great, temporary
relief but ultimately we want to

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get them on disease-modifying 
agents, right? 

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Or rheumatoid? 
Yeah, disease. 

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So, The one that comes up the 
most in my opinion on the boards

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is going to be Methotrexate. 
So let's get into some pain. 

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So with Methotrexate it is a 
folic acid synthesis inhibitor. 

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That's the reason why I can 
cause neural tube defects. 

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Definitely want to educate your 
patient. 

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Whoever is on it, that it is a 
teratogen the lack of folic 

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acid. 
Or the production of folic acid 

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or the conversion of folic acid,
that, that, that is decreased. 

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Because this person is on 
Methotrexate, can complicate the

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pregnancy because it's a 
teratogen, we're worried about 

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neural tube defects. so, if a 
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this is the way that I would ask
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I say this all the time to my 
students. 

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I go listen, if somebody's on 
whatever or lets you say forget 

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the question, okay? 
If you see in the answer choice,

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if you see an answer Choice, 
check pregnancy, ask him what 

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the last semesters tide cycle 
was do a upt doing. 

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HCG asking, if you're sexually 
active, why did they put that in

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the answer Choice? 
Well, this is a question that I 

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would ask. 
Person wants to ask about 

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pregnancy and they're currently 
taking Methotrexate. 

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What are we gonna do? 
Well, we're going to stop it. 

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And what if they got pregnant, 
while they were on Methotrexate?

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We're going to give good. 
We're gonna give folic acid. 

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In double the dose. 
This is not just limited to 

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Methotrexate. 
I also talked about this Insight

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when we talk about Fina Towing, 
right? 

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And what is the normal level of 
folic acid that we give 400 to 

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800 micrograms. 
So if we're going to double 

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that, make sure you're giving 
them 800 to 1600 micrograms. 

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So ask them if they're pregnant,
make sure they're not pregnant. 

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It is a teratogen and so think 
about this, right? 

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If it is a teratogen Do you 
think that if this is a drug 

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that we can use to get rid of a 
pregnancy on purpose? 

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Absolutely. 
Absolutely. 

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So now because of its nasty side
effect, we can use this drug in 

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ectopic pregnancies. 
We can also use this drug to 

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terminate and have an abortion. 
Metal track. 

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See? 
You gotta tie it all together. 

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You can't memorize. 
Yeah, if it's a teratogen. 

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We can also use it on the flip 
side to write when you wanted to

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eliminate. 
This is a safe one to learn a 

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not Auto driver. 
Genes are going to be good for 

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terminating pregnancy. 
This is actually a big one to 

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terminate pregnancy. 
This drug is also 

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hepatotoxicity, and I'm not 
talking. just like, oh, your 

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liver, check your liver enzymes,
which are what Peyote. 

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AST, this is severely, I had a 
toxic. 

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So this is going to be that 
further teaching further 

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intervention moment where it's 
going to be, oh, you know, I'm 

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on Methotrexate, whatever they 
got prescribed. 

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This and like, yeah, I'm gonna, 
maybe I won't drink a lot. 

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I'll just have like one beer, 
no, no, or like one glass of 

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wine. 
No, no further teaching further 

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intervention further 
understanding moment because in 

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this situation, you are going to
avoid alcohol. 

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There are three Drugs. 
That you need to know to avoid 

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alcohol that the board's love 
not decrease, alcohol. 

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Avoid alcohol metronidazole. 
So Methotrexate metronidazole. 

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How about you down iso-ne is it 
Isoniazid metronidazole and 

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Methotrexate. 
Now, these aren't the only ones 

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that you avoid completely 
stopped. 

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Not decrease, not have a sip, 
not have a glass of void. 

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These aren't the only ones, but 
these are the ones that the 

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board's love asking because 
they're severely hepatotoxicity.

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These two are and metronidazole 
will cause what's called a die 

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salt from like reaction. 
Disulfiram, like reaction, some 

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other side effects that you can 
see is some GI distress. 

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Nausea vomiting, diarrhea. 
That's shorthand for how you 

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write that. 
The other thing with 

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Methotrexate is it can cause 
mouth ulcers. 

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So kind of like at the angle of 
the mouth to kind of look for 

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those mouth ulcers. 
So what are we going to educate 

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the patient on? 
Educate them on. 

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Proper oral. 
Hygiene propyl or Oral Care. 

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Exactly. 
So definitely an educational 

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point right there as well, too. 
ultimately, The issue with 

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Methotrexate or sorry, the issue
that we're trying to solve is 

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what rheumatoid arthritis, which
is what autoimmune disease. 

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So what we're trying to do is 
suppress it immune system. 

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So you have to educate this 
patient to avoid large crowds. 

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They themselves cannot get live,
vaccines nor can they be around 

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somebody who just received it? 
Look out for signs of infection.

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because this person is not going
to be able to fight it off, so 

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that person that comes in And is
on Methotrexate or any other 

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immunosuppressant starts 
complaining of that sore throat.

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Or maybe they've got some GI 
distress, maybe they think 

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they've got the stomach flu or 
they've got UTI. 

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That's not just some 
run-of-the-mill issue that we're

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going to deal with here. 
You got to be able to identify 

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it. 
We are freaking out about that 

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because in a person that is on 
an immunosuppressant that shows 

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signs of infection, which one of
the eight of ask graph is it 

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Sepsis exactly sepsis. 
Hey guys, dr. 

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