1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,280 This podcast is recorded on Gadigal land. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,520 Always was, always will be Aboriginal land. 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,720 Hello and welcome to She said what I'm your host, Alyssa 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,320 Harper, and this podcast is all about unpacking the chaos and 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,440 the things we've had to push through to get to where we are. 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,960 This is your safe space to learn from others experiences, reflect 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,920 and then become your most authentic self. 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,920 You're going to giggle, you might cry, and you're definitely 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,880 going to get the tea. Let's get into it. 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,760 Thank you to Field for sponsoring today's episode. 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,280 If you don't already know about the exploration and dating app 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,720 Field, then we'll talk more about them later. 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,200 But let's get into today's episode. 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,560 Joining me today we have content creator, host of Sydney events 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,920 group, Pretty Connected, creator of ebook Happy Gut, Happy skin 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,760 dancer, skin care icon, Queen of confidence, Liz Claire. 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,360 So excited to be here. Thanks for coming on, Oh my. 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,720 Gosh, I can't wait to dive deep into all the topics and I'm just 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,440 bubbling with so much choice so thank you. 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,960 You're welcome. And we have so much to talk 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,000 about. I was saying it just before, 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,840 before we started today, that I have been so inspired by you for 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,040 years. I've been following along for 24 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,920 years and now we've known each other and we've gotten to see 25 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,800 each other so much. And everything you shared, from 26 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,640 your journey with cystic acne to when you shaved your head, What 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,400 a crazy time was. That sometimes I get the ish 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,520 because I want to do. Oh, really? 29 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,720 Oh, my God, I did love it though. 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,640 It was so fun on you. And I feel like everything that 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,320 you share, especially in your content, is just so much about 32 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,520 confidence and how much you've grown and going out dancing and 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,800 meeting new people. And it's what I think so many 34 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,640 people need to hear because so many of us are so trapped in 35 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,960 ourselves and we get so nervous and we don't know how to connect 36 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:48,520 with new people, especially going into our 20s and our 30s. 37 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,160 And so yeah, I want to get into starting out with what kind of 38 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,400 inspired you in the 1st place to start sharing your journey 39 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,840 online and why you started doing even content creation? 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,720 Absolutely. So I think we all experienced 41 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,040 that self doubt and negative talk and I think that dragged on 42 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,199 for way too long in my teenage years and it came to a point 43 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:10,199 where I just wanted to break free from that. 44 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:13,520 Especially as someone who was struggling with cystic acne. 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,280 It was such a visual thing, so everybody just staring at my 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,600 skin and I felt like a monster looking back on my reflection. 47 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,520 And I hated that feeling so much because I think at my core, I 48 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,800 knew that there was so much more to offer than what I looked 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,960 like. So one day, you know, this is 50 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,360 when Instagram was starting up. It wasn't as popular or as known 51 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,680 or used and it was all just picture perfect models. 52 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:42,080 And I found myself editing pictures of myself and I knew it 53 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,920 was bad. And so eventually I created this 54 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:48,480 Instagram page and I came up with the name pretty Progress 55 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,360 because I think I knew that my journey was about making that 56 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,120 progress. It wasn't about perfection. 57 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,960 I created this account and it was just an online diary of my 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,320 skin journey and it was nerve racking. 59 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,160 I was. I can't imagine. 60 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,960 From, you know, wanting to be this perfect girl to just 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,680 finally revealing my skin without the make up, without the 62 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,720 editing. And I realized that so many 63 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,120 women around the globe was struggling with the same 64 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,680 problems as, you know, looking back and not liking what they 65 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,880 see. So when I found that I could 66 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,360 connect with different people around the world, it gave me 67 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,360 confidence to continue sharing my journey. 68 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,720 And I started talking about skin care. 69 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,680 And then I realized it's beyond skin care. 70 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,240 It's more about how you feel on the inside, where you eat, how 71 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,040 you navigate lifestyle choices. So now I just dabble in 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,400 different niches and topics and I share about my journey to 73 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,040 confidence and now it's my full time job and I'm just just 74 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,120 honoured to be a part of this community to increase that 75 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,840 positivity and self loving people. 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,200 Yeah. So beautiful. 77 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,720 Yeah. Because I think back to the days 78 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,800 when I was in high school and I would edit my photos as well, 79 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,880 you know, big fan of face tune back in the day. 80 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,240 And I look back at some of those photos now and I'm like, first 81 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,040 of all, I was so cute and sweet and I didn't need to do anything 82 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,520 to those photos. And also they look so cursed. 83 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,480 Like they're so like washed out. You know, the whole face is one 84 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,040 tone. The eyes are like detailed, like 85 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,880 scary We. Couldn't tell, but if we're 86 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,640 looking at back at and now we know it's like heavily. 87 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,360 Yeah, wow. And I'm so glad to hear that you 88 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,920 recognizing yourself in that moment. 89 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,760 Like, I don't need to be doing this and I need to put myself 90 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,640 out there. And that's the like, the hardest 91 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,400 part is even starting the journey of being like, I'm going 92 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,240 to even let people see me like this. 93 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,800 Because I remember seeing at one point you posted something about 94 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:41,880 dating and going on dates with people and how your skin was 95 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,240 holding, holding you back. Can you talk a little bit about 96 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,760 that? Well, we live in an age where 97 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,840 it's all about how we look and we have dating apps, we have, 98 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:52,480 you know, these edited magazines, even ads online. 99 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:58,240 And I think we all want to make a great first impression for 100 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,040 towards the opposite sex. And the first thing they see is 101 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,680 your skin. And I think when my skin was 102 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,160 just red, irritated, and I had these large nodules on my 103 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,360 cheeks, I, they was terrified. I was like, they are not going 104 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,720 to even give me a chance. And that's and for a long, long 105 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,600 time, I would put dating off completely. 106 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,400 I wouldn't want to date. And as I started building my 107 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,560 confidence bias more steps, I realized that having acne is a 108 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,880 form of like a superpower. It's I'm allowed to filter out 109 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,560 people who are superficial. Yeah. 110 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,240 So yes, it's, yes, the first thing you see is your skin. 111 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,880 But if you don't even give me a chance to show my personality, 112 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,960 why would I want you in my life in the 1st place? 113 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,560 Right? So it's about reframing my 114 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,440 perspective and realizing that I have so much more to offer. 115 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,680 And I will focus on the conversation at hand rather than 116 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,280 focusing on what they think about me. 117 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:56,080 So the more I allow my energy to flourish, the more they see that 118 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,800 I'm more than my skin. And then I realize that dating 119 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,840 can be so much fun. So it's not about what I look 120 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:05,880 like, it's about how I feel. And if I feel confident, usually 121 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,640 the date does really well and I'm able to be myself. 122 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,480 And my first boyfriend of four years was somebody who saw past 123 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,400 that and, and I was able to find love. 124 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,160 And from there, I think he just gave me confidence that, yeah, 125 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,320 dating is meant to be fun. If it's not fun, why are you 126 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,840 dating in the first place? Hell yeah. 127 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,640 And I love that you pointed out like you had that moment where 128 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,200 you realized it was something that would actually turn off 129 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,480 potentially some people. And instead of being like, no, 130 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,280 that's not true. Trying to cover it or trying to 131 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:38,560 conform, you were like, hold on. Like this is something that, 132 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,080 yeah, could turn off some people and it's going to turn off the 133 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,920 wrong, like the wrong people, the people I don't want. 134 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,560 So who gives a shit? Like my person who I love, who I 135 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,240 know is going to want me and love me all the time when I'm 136 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,160 not wearing makeup, when my hair looks crazy, you know, when 137 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,080 you're shaving your head or you're doing whatever you're 138 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,400 doing, they're not with you because of their image or their 139 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,200 ego. And that's so cool that you're 140 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,880 able to make that like switch over because it's good for you 141 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,840 and it's so much better for the relationship and. 142 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:09,120 Yeah, even on that point about seeking that validation, I think 143 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,640 after overcoming my acne journey, I did have confidence 144 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,960 in my skin cleared up because I was doing all these lifestyle 145 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,040 changes. But at the same time, there was 146 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,720 still a part of me that needed that validation from men. 147 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,840 And so I took that step further by saying, OK, what is it about 148 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,480 me that makes me so vain? So I shaved my head. 149 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,360 Wow. That was the. 150 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,440 Doctor that came out, I've always been so curious. 151 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,120 So that was one that was one of the reasons I was like, OK, I'm 152 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:40,560 going to challenge myself, take my hair away from me, shave my 153 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:45,120 hair and just see what I'm like as a person beyond my outward 154 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,680 appearance. And of course, I've always 155 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,320 wanted to shave my head because I think a woman needs to do that 156 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,280 once in a lifetime. It is so liberating and so much 157 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,480 fun to do. And when I did that, obviously I 158 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,760 think I felt empowered in that moment. 159 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 And the next day I started crying and I said, I look like 160 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,600 an Asian boy. I was like, why? 161 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,440 Why did I choose this? But I, I could not do anything 162 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,160 after that. The hair is already gone. 163 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,240 And I had to force myself to feel empowered, force myself to 164 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,680 get that confidence again and base that confidence on things 165 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,520 that actually matter and not my parents or how pretty my 166 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,680 eyelashes look or how pretty my hair like was flowing that day. 167 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:30,280 And so confidence is not, it's not, it's a feeling you have to 168 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,360 build on that feeling. And I always tell people who ask 169 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,760 me like, were you always a confident person? 170 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,400 I always say it's not something you're born with. 171 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,200 It's something that you have to practice on. 172 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,799 It's a skill set. So when you know, it's a skill 173 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:45,520 set that gives you opportunity to build on it and actually 174 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,040 spend time building on yourself worth. 175 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,320 So as soon as I realized that I could feel powerful and 176 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,280 unstoppable, I realized that that's where confidence comes 177 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:56,800 from. And I don't need male 178 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,040 validation. And I can't believe that my 179 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,840 whole life centered around that when I was much younger. 180 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,600 And I think that's because I think the reason why we feel 181 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,560 that way is because that was the the narrative that, you know, 182 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:11,040 girls grew up in. Like we have to attract the 183 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,920 opposite sex. And movies and. 184 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,680 Everything else exactly. So it's like reframing your 185 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:19,720 perspective and finding your way out of it and growing from 186 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,560 there. Wow, and I love that. 187 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:24,240 And I think like self trust is so important in the process. 188 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,960 Like, you know, people say like nothing changes if nothing 189 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,920 changes. It's like you made such a big 190 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,040 step by shaving your head. And it sounds like kind of crazy 191 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,840 to go and do. But the fact that you went and 192 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,400 did something that was a bit of a shock to the system and it 193 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,840 forced you every day to like wake up and be like, yes, I'm 194 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,720 still going to do the things that make me feel pretty. 195 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Like you might still have been, you know, doing your skin care, 196 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,000 doing your makeup. It's not about completely 197 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,000 throwing away, you know, your appearance, but it's getting rid 198 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,200 of those specific things that you might have been doing just 199 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,840 because you were told that they were pretty. 200 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,280 Yes. And kind of redefining what that 201 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,200 even means for yourself. Like what a beautiful process. 202 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:57,600 Thanks. That's. 203 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,440 Amazing. But also you don't have to shave 204 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,920 your head to detach yourself from mail validation. 205 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,160 There are things you can do. What? 206 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,400 Are some other things that. You so yeah, I always say 207 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,440 obviously you don't need to do outrageous things. 208 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,280 You can if you want to, if you want that big challenge, but for 209 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,920 the most part it's those small steps. 210 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,480 So I always come back to having hobbies and people are like, 211 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,480 what do you mean? Having hobbies boosts your, your 212 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,520 confidence? But there are so many types of 213 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,400 hobbies that teaches you so many different things. 214 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,400 For example, I got into running and that taught me resilience. 215 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,120 You know, I got into dancing and that taught me to be free in my 216 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,120 body. So having different hobbies 217 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,040 allows you to hone in on yourself to realize that you are 218 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,280 so much more capable. And the more fun you have with 219 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,960 your life, the less you're going to focus on what other people 220 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,000 are up to or what other people think about you. 221 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,080 Absolutely. So hobbies is my little sacred. 222 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,040 I, I so agree with that. I honestly feel like even in the 223 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,240 last year, that's been a big thing for me is I always notice 224 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,800 if I am not doing much throughout my week or I'm so 225 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,720 focused on like trying to get people to think something of me 226 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,080 or even just working and not taking time to like just have 227 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,160 fun or be around my community. I go into all these things so 228 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,360 anxious. Like if we're going to an event 229 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,280 or something like that, I'll be walking into the event like like 230 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,640 nervous, like thinking like, oh, did I wear the right thing? 231 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,000 How am I measuring up? Like am I going to find my 232 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,160 friends when I first walk in or am I going to, am I going to 233 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,720 look alone? Like all these like really 234 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,240 negative thoughts. Whereas if I've been in my 235 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,000 community or doing things that actually build myself up 236 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,880 throughout the week, I'm like walking in like, you know, if 237 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,840 anything, I'm the person to go chat up somebody who's on their 238 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,240 own because I'm like, they seem like they might need a friend 239 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,120 kind of thing, you know? So it's like I get to be not 240 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,240 only better for me and my experience, but better for 241 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,880 everyone around me. When I realize, like walking 242 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,120 into room, how I look is the least interesting thing about me 243 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,440 and what I have to say and kind of how I leave people feeling. 244 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,360 Is the end goal like making them feel good? 245 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,720 Obviously, yes, yes. Yes, absolutely. 246 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,520 I feel that too. How you see yourself allows you 247 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,440 to show up better for other people as well. 248 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,640 Yeah, it makes such a huge impact and it's a ripple effect. 249 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,160 Yeah, Yeah. Well, and I want to just go back 250 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,560 a little bit into your, like journey with acne, cystic acne. 251 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,640 Is there anything in particular where you started to notice a 252 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,320 big shift when it came to skin care, things that you did or 253 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,000 even treatments? Because I know you've had a bit 254 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,600 of a journey recently with a newer treatment and there was a 255 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,000 big video where you were burning your skin or something. 256 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,080 Can you tell me about that? Oh my goodness. 257 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:24,640 So, you know, I want to go back to when I was a teenager and I 258 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,360 had these little puberty pimples. 259 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,280 Everybody told me it would go away at the same time. 260 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,800 I was so focus on what I looked like, you know, in high school. 261 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,040 So I went back to the doctors and they'll prescribe me 262 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,680 antibiotics. Now antibiotics is a quick fix. 263 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,680 And unfortunately, even though it, you know, gets rid of all 264 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:44,960 the bad bacteria, also wipes out your good bacteria. 265 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,280 So once you get rid of that good bacteria, body is completely 266 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:54,040 defenseless. So it is more likely to fail in 267 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,680 protecting your immune system, protecting you from getting acne 268 00:12:56,680 --> 00:12:59,480 again. So I went through rounds and 269 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,280 rounds of antibiotics destroying my gut. 270 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,920 My skin got worse. And then I was prescribed birth 271 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,160 control pills. Yeah, suppressing my hormones. 272 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,760 And then that didn't work. Guess what? 273 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,680 OK, why don't you go on veracetaine. 274 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:14,560 And I refuse to go on veracetaine, which is a more 275 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:18,200 intensive drug, quite harsh on your body because it's literally 276 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,360 getting and your mental health and your mental. 277 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,640 Health, yes. So my brother was on that for 278 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,960 nine months, and he had a whole host of side effects from hair 279 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,560 loss, you know, liver damage to depression. 280 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:30,880 And it was just a lot. So I knew I shouldn't go down 281 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,680 that route. And I had to push, you know, 282 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:38,640 every fiber of my being to think of the bigger picture. 283 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,240 What is it that is causing my acne? 284 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,440 Because I truly believe that acne is a visual symptom of 285 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:45,000 what's happening on the inside. Yeah. 286 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,240 So because I knew there was an imbalance, I started looking at 287 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:49,560 my gut health. Yes. 288 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,520 And, you know, I'm so glad that social media is talking a lot 289 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,480 more about your gut health because once you eat in a 290 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,760 balanced diet, you sleep well and you're making sure that 291 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,040 you're taking care of your mindset. 292 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,080 All of those holistic approaches will allow you to clear up your 293 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,920 skin because your skin is seeking that balance. 294 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,680 So I started changing everything about my myself, about my no, I 295 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:15,240 didn't eat junk food every day and which is? 296 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,600 So easy to do which? Is so easy to do and sleeping at 297 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,960 2:00 AM in the morning, you know when you're young you're flexing 298 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,960 or I only had four hours of sleep. 299 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,720 That is not a flex. It's not a flex. 300 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,320 No, not anymore. No, once you're getting older, 301 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,200 peeps like you realize how important your sleep is. 302 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,920 So it was a change over time and of course skin care played a 303 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,080 huge factor, but it's also that holistic approach by being 304 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,920 consistent with your skin care, eating enough fiber for those 305 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,280 new short fatty chain acids for your, you know, good bugs in 306 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:49,920 your in your body and, and making sure that you are just 307 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,640 energized for the next day so you're not always lacking on 308 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,320 sleep. All of that contributed to 309 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,640 clearing up my skin. And now I'm in this whole 310 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,720 journey of like revising my scar journey. 311 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,640 So I have scars from my acne. And then I'm doing that because, 312 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:03,760 you know, it's all about progress. 313 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,160 That's why it's pretty progress, yeah. 314 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,720 Beautiful. Yeah. 315 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,600 So it's when somebody asks me what really cleared up my acne, 316 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,160 I always say go through that holistic route. 317 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,200 And I know it sounds tedious. It sounds like it's so 318 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,160 exhausting, but this is your health we're talking about. 319 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,480 The greatest investment that you need to make is your health, and 320 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,080 it's going to be worth it in the end. 321 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,720 Yeah, and unfortunately, like a lot of people will initially 322 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,000 want to just fix that visual thing like because it does stop 323 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,120 them in their lives from feeling confident in so many ways. 324 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,320 But if you actually sit there and think about it, it's like, 325 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,000 wow, your health is actually so much more important. 326 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,240 We're talking about longevity. We're talking about like your 327 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,920 immunity, so many things that you want to be aware of. 328 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,920 So if you are having the symptoms showing you that your 329 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,800 body is in balance, like let's go in and actually figure out 330 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,960 what's kind of going on. How did you even start in the 331 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,280 1st place when you would see things on social media about gut 332 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,960 health? And were there things that you 333 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,640 tried that absolutely didn't work and weren't necessary? 334 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Were there things that you're like, I swear by this, you must 335 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,440 do this? Like what are we working? 336 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,640 Like when? We talk about gut health. 337 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,240 It's so scary because yes, you get so many different 338 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,680 recommendations on social media and it is unfortunately a 339 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,920 process of trial and error. And I've tried a lot of things 340 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,960 didn't work, tried a lot of things that did work. 341 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,880 And I think one thing I would say is that I want people to 342 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,520 focus more on what they're eating instead of focusing on 343 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,080 supplements. Supplements can definitely help, 344 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,080 but the word means you're supplementing what you're adding 345 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,080 on to what you've already done. Yeah. 346 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,440 So don't make it your Holy Grail. 347 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,280 You know, the pill that changes your entire life that doesn't. 348 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,000 That is not realistic. If only it were. 349 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,800 Oh my. Yeah, completely. 350 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:46,600 I hear you. Yeah. 351 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,960 So I mean, there are a couple of things that I absolutely love in 352 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,080 terms of supplements, but I always say focus on your your 353 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,600 food, focus on your sleep, focus on your stress, all the things 354 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,760 that you can actually do and then supplement. 355 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,240 Yeah, that's great. And I think that's great advice. 356 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,960 I think so many people will just look, especially on the websites 357 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,720 that are promoting these pills and we'll kind of go, OK, 358 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,400 perfect. I'll get one for sleep and I'll 359 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,599 get one for this and I'll get gut health and I'll get this and 360 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:14,440 that and that's everything. I'll get one for the skin. 361 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,720 Look at the complex, you know, and they you get all of them and 362 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:18,640 you're sitting there and you're taking all of it, but maybe 363 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,800 you're waking up every morning and you're not having any water 364 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,920 at all and you're drinking that coffee on an empty stomach and 365 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,560 you're running around with your cortisol all over the place all 366 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,560 day long. You're not right. 367 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,520 Not even eating enough, especially a lot of women. 368 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,720 So it's really cool to to hear that you found that balance with 369 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,840 all these different pillars of your life, and then you bring in 370 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,320 something else to help you along. 371 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:38,680 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 372 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,760 Don't just focus on one thing because again, I think we are so 373 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,240 inclined to try to have quick fixes. 374 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,880 Yeah, okay, so something I've found and what I've been hearing 375 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,000 from you guys on socials is that the dating app fatigue is real. 376 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,760 The same answers to the same prompts. 377 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,320 In trying to adjust your profile just to please someone, it's 378 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,040 making us feel more disconnected than ever. 379 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:00,360 And that's why I've partnered with Field because they've 380 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:03,560 carved out a space for you to find yourself on Field. 381 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,080 You have the breathing room to explore your desires and even 382 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,400 find communities that share your interests like Pilates, going to 383 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,440 the beach and new cafes. 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So cool and I'm so into it and 404 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,240 the feedback has just been amazing. 405 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,120 I think when I was younger, I just wanted something where it 406 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:14,960 was just straightforward. And he and that whole entire 407 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:20,600 book is just about making small changes, small changes that will 408 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,680 make a difference. Teaching them about food, 409 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,000 teaching them about fiber, teaching them about how to 410 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,040 better your digestion. And then at the end, there's a 411 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,960 couple of product recommendations and supplements, 412 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,440 but it's not the main focus of the book at all. 413 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,200 It's making people in control of their own health. 414 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,000 Yeah, which I'm really proud of. Well, and I love that you 415 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,800 mentioned digestion as well and being like it's not just about 416 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,040 even the food you're eating. It's about like, you know, when 417 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,040 we're eating as well too, considering like how our 418 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,520 hormones are affected as well too. 419 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,240 Like there's so many pieces to I think that's why for me, even 420 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,360 like I feel like it has been overwhelming to work on my gut 421 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:56,560 health. And I think sometimes I just 422 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,800 think I put it in the back, in the back out of my mind. 423 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,440 I'm like, you know, I take that probiotic at least once a week. 424 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,560 You know what I mean? That's got to be doing something 425 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,240 good for me. But the more I like take my time 426 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,080 with it and in the more I do one healthy habit, the more it makes 427 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,320 me want to do others. Like, I don't know if you're 428 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,840 like that. It's like you go to the gym in 429 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,280 the morning and then you come home and you're so much less 430 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,840 likely to want to even, like, have a glass of wine. 431 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,760 At night or like eat shitty food or whatever when you're out 432 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,720 because you're like actually I will go home and I'll make 433 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,600 myself something because you're in that mindset. 434 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,200 And so I feel like building on those habits can be really 435 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,680 helpful as well. That's one of like the key 436 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,280 pillars into changing your lifestyle. 437 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,680 It's about habit stacking. And the more you feed your brain 438 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,040 with the positive things that you're doing, the more likely 439 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,400 your brain is going to be like, OK, yes, I can do this. 440 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,800 I just got to keep on building that and it makes that possible. 441 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,400 Wow, amazing. Oh, well, thank you for sharing 442 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,280 all of that. I am I feel like that's kind of 443 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,680 most of what I want to hear about your journey and 444 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,040 everything that you have gone through when it comes to like 445 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,640 acne and gut health and all these things. 446 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,600 I love what you do and I love what you share online. 447 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,720 And but because you know, we love to talk about dating on 448 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,360 this podcast, of course we have our sponsor Field. 449 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:08,360 Thank you to field. Of course, we're going to talk 450 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:11,880 about dating a little bit here, and I know you are in a 451 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,720 relationship. I am a year and a half now. 452 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,720 Yes, we won't get too, too much into it. 453 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,560 I know you like to keep it a little sneaky sneaky, but you 454 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,480 post a little bit. Yes, I post a little bit. 455 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,200 I don't show his face, but I realized that it's nice to 456 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,840 protect your relationship a little bit. 457 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,440 As much as I love to overshare, he's he's a sweet boy. 458 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,760 That's sweet. I, I saw on your page the other 459 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,760 day you had like a photo of the two of you and there was like a 460 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,200 hat or something in front of his face. 461 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,360 And I was like, wow, she's really getting creative with 462 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:40,640 these now. Like this is good. 463 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,600 You went from like blurring from emoji, now it's actually post 464 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,280 into the phone. No. 465 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,880 We have like different props. So sometimes it's a big fat leaf 466 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,320 when we're like hiking in the in the middle of nowhere or we have 467 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,440 a cowboy hat when we're in in Uluru. 468 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,680 So it gets really fun. That's so fun. 469 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,160 Well, I want to although you are dating somebody, I I think this 470 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,000 is good because you do seem to be in a very happy, healthy 471 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,560 relationship. So maybe you can give the girlie 472 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,280 some advice here. Let's start off with what are 473 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,800 three green flags for a first date. 474 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,960 Oh, okay. The first one is honestly just 475 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,560 being really curious and enthusiastic with what you do. 476 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,720 I feel like sometimes people get so excited with the day and they 477 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,920 want to prove themselves, so their attention is all on what 478 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,200 they do and they forget to ask the girl a question. 479 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,920 Yeah. So I literally said the same 480 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,880 thing last week. My first one I think was 481 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,280 curious. Like it's actually crazy how 482 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,800 much like that doesn't come through with some people. 483 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,680 Yes, because I think when you're curious, obviously it means 484 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,560 you're actually interested in getting to know the person, not 485 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,280 just dating for the sake of dating, not just dating for the 486 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,080 sake of feeling good about yourself. 487 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,280 And I think unfortunately, sometimes people just get lost 488 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,160 in it all. Yeah, being curious is 489 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,240 definitely my first green flag. The second one is being 490 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,280 grounded. I can be, I used to be a very, 491 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,200 very chaotic person and I think I can be, I have like very high 492 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,480 energy and I can be quite extroverted. 493 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,400 But having somebody who has that personality, I think you need to 494 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,320 be also grounded in and calm. Yeah, yeah. 495 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,880 I love that calmness and it just makes me feel like I'm at pace. 496 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,280 So while still having fun not I'm not talking about don't 497 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,400 confuse calm like being grounded and calmness with boredom. 498 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,320 Being boring? Yes. 499 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,600 Being yes, absolutely. I completely agree. 500 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,840 Yeah. And I think you need someone who 501 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,600 makes your, like, nervous system feel calm in that way. 502 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,600 And I find like, that's where I noticed if that person is 503 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,360 actually doing that for me because it's like, I'll hang out 504 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:41,160 with them and then the next day I'm like, like, and what's on 505 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,320 for today? Like I just have more of a calm 506 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,280 vibe about me. And I think that's always a 507 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,560 really good green flag. Yes. 508 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,120 Do we have one more? We have one more the the third 509 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:53,720 one is if they are too quick to wanna create a life with you, 510 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,400 please, please run away. I love bombing. 511 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,800 It's horrifying. It's. 512 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,480 Horrifying, but The thing is, young little me would fall for 513 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,920 it 'cause I'm like, I mean, why wouldn't he be obsessed with me? 514 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,080 I. Was the exact same. 515 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:08,600 I absolutely have done that. I'm like, I'm so flattered by 516 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,560 it. Yes, In our house we're gonna 517 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,040 have this and this and this and I'm like our house, yes. 518 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:19,120 I remember I went on this day with this man and I remember it 519 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:22,040 was just like a cute picnic day. Very went very well. 520 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,720 Then he would like look into my eyes, hand on my cheek and say I 521 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:27,880 want to take care of you. Why? 522 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,920 Is that like such an egg? Like such. 523 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,760 An egg did You don't even know me. 524 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,320 Like why do you want to take care of me? 525 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,120 Am I this like weak little girl? Like it does not make sense to 526 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:42,600 you Talk about the future. Too much of that is it kind of 527 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,480 feels like you you are already in love with the idea of me. 528 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,760 You don't even know who I am. Yeah. 529 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,160 You're not even curious to know who I am. 530 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:54,080 So taking it slow, Yes. And making sure that he gets to 531 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,040 know you before he makes all these future plans with you. 532 00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:00,200 And I think it comes out of them wanting you to fit into their 533 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,720 life in a box that they've like created, like kind of like what 534 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,000 you said, like they've come into that moment to go like, perfect, 535 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,000 I've met this person. Yep, they'll do the job. 536 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,400 And then it's like they want that romance. 537 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,960 But if you're doing it from this like false reality or this false 538 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,360 version of it, it's so scary. It's so scary because that will 539 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,360 fade so. Absolutely, yes. 540 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:22,280 When it starts in 10s, it usually ends very intensely as 541 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,760 well. Yeah. 542 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,240 So avoid that. Been there, done. 543 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,680 Next scratch. Yeah, well, can we have two more 544 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,920 red flags? I think this is an important 545 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,120 one. If you cannot have a mature 546 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:39,000 conversation about finances, you're not in a mature place to 547 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,880 talk about a long term, serious relationship. 548 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,200 Yeah, I think you have to be very, very comfortable. 549 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,800 There's a lot of it's like hush hush under the table when it 550 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,800 comes to talking about finances with your friends, with people 551 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,520 around you. But if you can't have those 552 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,840 conversations, then why are you being in a relate? 553 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,920 Why do you want to be in a relationship with me? 554 00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:00,480 So a red flag is feeling uncomfortable about finances, I 555 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,280 think. Yeah, I really like that one. 556 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,720 I wouldn't think of that. But like as you're explaining 557 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,720 it, I'm like, wow. Because you do get people who 558 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,240 just will not dive into it or are very uncomfortable to even 559 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,240 share about maybe where they struggle, especially a lot of 560 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,040 men. Yes. 561 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,840 And like we need to, I like, I want to know kind of where 562 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,560 you're coming. From yes, be honest and yeah. 563 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,960 And then that way we can actually start a relationship on 564 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,760 an honest, transparent like foundation. 565 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,200 Yeah, well, I love that. That's a great one. 566 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:33,360 And I think the last red flag would just be not loving your 567 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:36,760 job. OK, yes, because. 568 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,760 I don't know if people realize this, but if you have a job that 569 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,200 takes up 80% of your life and you absolutely hate your job, it 570 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,800 will bleed into other parts of your relationship because that 571 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,480 disdain for your own life will be projected. 572 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,680 I think you don't have to absolutely fall in love with 573 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,320 your job, but at least enjoy it because this is what you're 574 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,840 settling for. Yeah. 575 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,040 I've had a relationship where he just hated his job. 576 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,720 So what happens when he comes home from a long day? 577 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,440 Yeah, Terrible. Yeah. 578 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,480 Terrible mood, terrible energy, and. 579 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,360 You're working to pull them out of that. 580 00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:17,200 It's like how exhausting it is, so exhausting. 581 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,760 And I think you need to make a decision as a, you know, as a 582 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,600 grown person, to find what actually makes you happy, or at 583 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,800 least something that lifts up your mood at the end of the day 584 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,480 because it takes up a lot of your time. 585 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,560 Or at least be like the kind of person where you can not maybe 586 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,160 like the work that you're doing, but know how to make your day 587 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,440 enjoyable. Like listening to podcasts on 588 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,840 the way in, enjoying like your lunch and really taking that 589 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,600 time to not just like doom scroll, but maybe like reading 590 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,440 or doing something that like fills you up. 591 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,520 Like I, because I've definitely been in that situation before 592 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,480 where I have really not liked my job. 593 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,720 Like I worked in hospitality for 7-8 years. 594 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,840 Like, I, you know, I would have these crazy 10 hour shifts and 595 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,800 sometimes barely get a break and I would like, I hate this. 596 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,280 Like, I'd be on the way in, like nearly crying, but I would be 597 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,920 like, you know what, like, I really like these people at my 598 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:05,800 work. Even there's people I don't 599 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,960 like. I really like these people. 600 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,200 That's cool. And I like that it's in a clean, 601 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,320 beautiful space. And I like that I actually don't 602 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,640 have to work past, say, 10:00 PM or whatever. 603 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,680 And I was trying to like kind of count my blessings so that the 604 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,720 energy would shift even if I didn't like the job. 605 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,760 So I think if you're going to be with someone who, yeah, doesn't 606 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,520 like. It that is absolutely important 607 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,840 to find the gratitude in a terrible situation. 608 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,360 If you completely wholeheartedly hate your job and you're you 609 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:32,760 know, you can't find any good in that, then yes, it will impact 610 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,160 the relationship that you're in. And unfortunately I was the 611 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,440 receiving end of that. So I think my red flags are the 612 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,160 indirect things that will impact the relationship. 613 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,560 Yeah, and it's so much more about that person, like their 614 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,480 lifestyle and how they live as well. 615 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,240 It's not just about how. And I think that's something 616 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,840 that a lot of people refuse. It's not just about how that 617 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,480 person treats you. It's so much too about how they 618 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,000 treat themselves, what their inner world looks like, like how 619 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,800 they treat their friends and their family. 620 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,920 Like you're going into somebody's whole life, not just 621 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,840 having a few interactions with them every day and they make you 622 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,640 feel special, right? It's. 623 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,920 Beyond that, it is beyond that how you treat yourself does show 624 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,520 up in how you interact with others. 625 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,080 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. All right. 626 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,280 Well, moving on, what's the best date you've ever been on? 627 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,640 Oh, OK. I think the best dates are 628 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,520 always the most spontaneous ones. 629 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,120 Yeah. And I genuinely like, love this 630 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,000 date. We, I was in Byron Bay at the 631 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,400 time, solid travelling and I had this guy take me and we did a 632 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,920 lot of movie references and do you know what to remember? 633 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,520 It's a chick flick, but. Basically I'm bad with names. 634 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,000 Maybe if I saw a little poster. So the protagonist had this 635 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,800 whole bucket list that she needed to finish and one of it 636 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,760 was being at two different places at the same time. 637 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,040 And I, I remember referencing it to that guy that I was seeing 638 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,240 and he was like, let's do it. So at the board of like 639 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,320 Queensland and NSW and he's like, put your foot here, put 640 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,280 your foot here and all that, you know. 641 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,040 And it just, it was just such a small little thing that I had 642 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,800 referenced and he was listening attentively, took me there and 643 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,880 it was just a cool little thing that we did. 644 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,280 And that day it was raining, was pouring and we did a, we're 645 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,880 chasing waterfalls. And I was completely unprepared. 646 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,840 I had thongs, shorts on and there was leeches on us and 647 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,120 we're just, Oh my God. I know like I didn't grow up 648 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,720 here Cora for me to be reacting this way, but what the actual 649 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,800 hell? There was a little risk factor 650 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,960 there, but I think our interaction with leeches and 651 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,720 having finding the joy and the excitement and the laughter in 652 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,880 that experience. Losing your mind, you're losing 653 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,600 so much blood. You're just, you're just knocked 654 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,760 out. And it was just so magical in 655 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,760 that we could find the joy. Yeah. 656 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,360 And the excitement in that. Yeah. 657 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,040 And of course, we caught these, these beautiful waterfalls. 658 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,960 I don't know if you know, but when it's raining, the waterfall 659 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:01,160 falls like the water cascades. I just so powerfully beautiful. 660 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,680 It's so majestic. It's amazing. 661 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,960 Like you should yeah, definitely see a rainfall when it's 662 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,240 raining. I. 663 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,280 Need to get over to a waterfall. Yeah. 664 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,520 I grew up in Niagara Falls, so I learned those. 665 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,560 I need to see one. Just a bunch of little ones that 666 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,400 will add up in my brain for me. That's great. 667 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,680 So that was my favorite date. That's lovely. 668 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,840 A risk factor in there a little bit, you know, being spontaneous 669 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,760 a. Little bit of drama, a little 670 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,640 bit of drama. And just having somebody who 671 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,320 doesn't take life too seriously, yeah, that's the best part about 672 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,480 it. I love that. 673 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,960 And not trying to, like, look a certain way. 674 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,760 Like one of my friends always says this, like, we all need to 675 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,880 have a little bit more ugly fun. Like we need to stop trying to 676 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,400 have pretty fun all the time. Like, I don't want to just 677 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,960 always be like, ha, ha. Oh my God. 678 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,800 Yeah. Like with a drink or something. 679 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,320 Like, no, Take Me Out somewhere where I can get a little bit 680 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,920 dirty. Like in Canada with Tom, my 681 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,120 boyfriend, We were going around on my like childhood bikes and 682 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,720 just like going up and down and going to like a little ice cream 683 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,600 shop and going to the lake. And like, that's one of the best 684 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,200 days I've ever had with him because we were just like having 685 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,320 fun and we were sweating and we just, you know, it wasn't 686 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,680 pretty, but it was just like natural and honest and yes, 687 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,360 connected. Connected. 688 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,920 And I think the only way you can feel connected is when you feel 689 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,240 like you're yourself. Yeah. 690 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,760 Yeah, it's beautiful. Well, let's switch it up. 691 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,520 What's the worst date you've ever been on? 692 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,880 Do you have a bad date story at all? 693 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,720 OK, so the thing with me is even. 694 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,600 Though even though The thing is. I I'd love to see the good in 695 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,600 things. So even though I've had like so 696 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,800 I had 2 1/2 years of being single before my current partner 697 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,400 and I love dating and I enjoyed the experience so much because 698 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,800 you get a feel of you know what you love what you don't like. 699 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,960 But because I was enjoying the experience so much, I didn't 700 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,240 really heavily focus on what went wrong. 701 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,640 But if I was to kind of dig through, I think it was just 702 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:54,400 this one experience when I was in, I think it was Brussels and 703 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,880 I was on a state with this guy and I really wanted to see a 704 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,520 live jazz band. Prior to that we had pre drinks 705 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,520 and we were dancing out in the open. 706 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,840 It was beautiful. I love dancing. 707 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,560 So anything to do with public dancing, you know, salsa, bit of 708 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,040 pachata with the crowd. I, I adore it so much. 709 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,240 This brings me so much joy. I think he had too many drinks. 710 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,400 And then after that we went to a live jazz band. 711 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,560 Have you ever been to a live jazz band? 712 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,520 It they, it's like each different instrument, like they 713 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,360 kind of compete against each other, all play seamlessly, 714 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:28,960 blend with each other. It's just beautiful. 715 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,280 So I was enjoying a jazz, you know, band in front of me. 716 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,600 But he was ready to like, you know, party and he was loud and 717 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,480 he kept drinking. And everybody who was enjoying 718 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,560 this jazz band obviously saw this like chaos in front of us. 719 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,240 And he was a little bit aggressive in his in, in his 720 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,160 advances. So I think I, I didn't, yes, 721 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,200 that was a bit of a disappointment, but I think 722 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,600 that's one of my worst dates. Yeah, I, I feel like a lot of 723 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,400 bad date stories come out of someone drinking too much. 724 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,760 That's the whole thing. I really feel like first dates, 725 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,600 yes, you can do you know, a few drinks or whatever, it's fine. 726 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,160 But I, I think a big, big, big night for the first meeting 727 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,520 might not be the way to go because especially like you're 728 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,320 trusting your time with that person too. 729 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,000 And especially if you're going to anyone's home, like you could 730 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,199 be mindful, could be mindful because it can get a little bit 731 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,080 crazy. Yeah, and there is such a thing 732 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,719 as self-control, you know. Yeah, absolutely. 733 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,280 Well, I hope you know for a. First date we would hope, Oh my 734 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,280 God. Yes, so. 735 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,040 While looping all the way back around, just going back to of 736 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,560 course your journey with your skin as well. 737 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,719 I want to ask one more thing if you could give someone advice 738 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,840 who wants to go on a date, want to get more confident in going 739 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,040 to meet new people but their skin is something that's holding 740 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,760 them back. Do you have any advice for? 741 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,639 That person, yes. OK, so I know that a couple of 742 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:50,880 people love dating via the apps and I've had a little bit of the 743 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,840 experience with the apps and I think a lot of women, myself 744 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,520 included, back then would post a beautiful photos of themselves. 745 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,920 And if that's not how you look, you will put more pressure on 746 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,800 yourself to present yourself a certain way when you do meet 747 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,280 someone in person. So I realized that if you were 748 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,240 doing dating apps, try to be realistic with your images so 749 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:14,840 that way you're not putting extra or unnecessary pressure to 750 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,680 be a certain way when you're meeting somebody. 751 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,040 So when you're crafting your profile, pick photos that 752 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,560 aren't, you know, the best photos, just pick realistic 753 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,040 photos of yourself, have fun with it. 754 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,840 And that way they know what to expect. 755 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,560 You know that you're not lying, and it allows you to be more 756 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,840 transparent with your own journey so you can show up more 757 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,600 authentically. So that's definitely A1 pointer. 758 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,800 The second one is to agree on dates that you will enjoy. 759 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,680 Sometimes you say yes to a dinner, a fancy dinner, but 760 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,080 maybe you're not a fancy dinner girl. 761 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,360 Maybe you like to have a picnic at the park. 762 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:54,440 So if you are enjoying an activity, you're more likely to 763 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,000 focus on the experience than what your skin looks like. 764 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,600 So those are my 2 pointers. I love that. 765 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,320 Making sure that you're enjoying the experience and being real, 766 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,920 being honest with yourself, because if you're honest with 767 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,960 yourself, you can be honest with the partner you're that you're 768 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,360 seeing and focus on the date. I love that because I think it's 769 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,120 so important where people go to do things that they don't even 770 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,640 necessarily like they don't even want to go to that place. 771 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,000 They don't even want to do that thing or like say a movie. 772 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,560 Like I remember when I my boyfriend always makes fun of me 773 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,920 now for it because when we first started seeing each other, he 774 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,960 would he have to ask me to the movies and I kept saying no over 775 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,440 and over and over again because I was like, I just don't like 776 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,680 first of all, you make me nervous. 777 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,760 I'm not comfortable around you yet and I don't want to sit 778 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,640 there awkwardly beside you in a movie and just the whole time 779 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,880 all I'm going to be thinking about is like, you and I, and if 780 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,880 I'm being weird or if I'm sitting the right way or if I 781 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,120 should be touching you or not. Like I'm too crazy like for 782 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,520 like, I can't be doing all that like. 783 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,080 No, you don't get a Tom movie day. 784 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:49,440 Exactly. I know. 785 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,080 I'm sorry, Tom, but I'm like, I was like, not good, you know? 786 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,960 And he always says it now, too, Like, every time we go to a 787 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,320 movie, he's like, finally, like, oh, yeah, OK. 788 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,160 But I had to, like, put my foot down and be like, no, like, I 789 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,800 want to go to this, like, Cafe or I think we should, like, go 790 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,280 on a walk. I like, botanical gardens or 791 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,800 like, something where I'm like, I know this is already going to 792 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,560 make me calm and feel good. And I would have fun even if you 793 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,000 weren't here, Like, so I'm not wasting my time, you know what I 794 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,360 mean? And you kind of need to do that, 795 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,960 especially at the start. Because you don't want to add on 796 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,280 an extra unnecessary anxiety. Yeah. 797 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,760 So just focus on what you actually enjoy and then that way 798 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,200 it's easier for you. Thank you so much for coming in 799 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,840 and joining me. Can you tell them where they can 800 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,120 find you? What, like talk about your ebook 801 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:30,240 Everything All the exciting things? 802 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:34,040 OK, so you can find me mostly on Instagram pretty progress 23. 803 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,440 I honestly just post my life and you know, share good tips about 804 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,600 how you can boost your confidence and feel good in your 805 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,360 body. The way I share my journey. 806 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,880 I hope that inspires you to live authentically. 807 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,800 You will find me on my now the social media is with the same 808 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,920 username pretty progress 23 And of course, if you want to take 809 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,760 control of your gut health and just feel good, you can 810 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,040 definitely check out my ebook and yeah, I'm excited. 811 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,280 Thanks for coming. Thank. 812 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,280 You so much, Melissa. Bye, bye everybody. 813 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,960 Quick before you go, if you want to have a say in future episodes 814 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,440 and you want to hear more from me, you can follow me at Alyssa 815 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,800 Taylor Harper on Instagram and TikTok, which will also be 816 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,920 LinkedIn the description. Also, don't forget to subscribe 817 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,160 or follow wherever you're listening from so you never miss 818 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,120 an episode. If you'd be so kind to leave a 819 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,880 review, it helps more people like you tune in. 820 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,960 Or maybe you want to share it with a friend who needs to hear 821 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,600 more chats like this. Love you lots and I'll catch you 822 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,080 next time.