1 00:00:13,710 --> 00:00:18,510 I opened this up to nothing but just the box of black with the 2 00:00:18,590 --> 00:00:20,310 with the overhead lines. What's up everybody? 3 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:21,910 This character with ACG and I'm here with Johnny. 4 00:00:21,910 --> 00:00:27,670 We're doing the best gaming podcast #588 that's it, have a 5 00:00:27,670 --> 00:00:29,590 good one. Hope you guys enjoy yourselves. 6 00:00:29,590 --> 00:00:32,670 Super chats are appreciated dude, that's how tired I am. 7 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,520 We're done instantly. We're done. 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,240 We're fucking done. We're done. 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,080 Yeah, I am tired, man. Hopefully I can make it through 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,200 this. I mean, I don't know. 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,280 Whenever anybody says that, what do you think would happen if 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,440 they couldn't make it through? Like when they say hopefully I 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,400 made it through, isn't that a call? 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,200 Isn't that a signal to, like, get some chats or something? 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,720 I hope I make it through. It's like, what do you think? 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,120 You're going to die, I think. Partly yes, but once you get 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,960 going it, it's just like, you know, going to the gym. 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,400 Why would you say it though like? 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,680 Because that's your feeling in the moment, Yeah, but I mean 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:03,760 are. You going to die during a 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,760 YouTube chat? You're going to like this die. 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:06,560 Is it going? To be that hard. 23 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,280 But you're like, dude, I don't know if I can do this, but then 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,400 you kind of start doing it and you get going. 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,920 Johnny, if I can do it, I can make it. 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:16,440 I can make it. We'll make. 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,680 It you're like Kate Winslet in the Titanic? 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,880 No, sorry. You're Leo DiCaprio in the 29 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,920 water. I'd be Leo. 30 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. You know there's enough room. 31 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:32,360 I feel like both, you know, they, they would both fit on the 32 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,000 yeah on the board. Dude, I'd cut her open and sleep 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,720 inside of her like a fucking tauntaun to live. 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,560 I'm, I'd, I'd grease her. I would right there. 35 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,640 I'd be like, you got to go, 'cause no one's going to be able 36 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,400 to tell you killed her. Already banged her. 37 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,640 That part's done. You already painted her. 38 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,120 You already like beat up her boyfriend. 39 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:50,480 You stole her from her boyfriend. 40 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,240 Your that your story arc is over. 41 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,480 You need to go under the sequel. Leonardo DiCaprio lives through 42 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,800 the Titanic and bangs everybody as a hero story. 43 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,120 That would be your sequel. So yeah, I'd cut her open. 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,840 I'd sleep inside of her body, and then I'd just slide it off 45 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,200 with my foot into the ice and water later on. 46 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,000 Be like she was cut up by a propeller, man. 47 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,479 Sad. You know, she wasn't that nice 48 00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:11,320 of a person anyway and she picked that. 49 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,280 Not really, when you think about it. 50 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,200 Yeah, that guy was a stroker that she was with the first time 51 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,040 and what the fuck? Anyway, yeah, we already did the 52 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,520 opening. We're we're going to talk about 53 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,040 a bunch of stuff. There's actually some pretty 54 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,160 cool news this week. We'll go down the list on some 55 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,200 of the stuff we're going to talk about. 56 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,320 Nintendo has decided, thankfully, to raise the price 57 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,040 of the Switch, to which I think is really cool. 58 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,640 They apologize to gamers for that impact, but I think that 59 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:37,320 that apology is definitely enough and we should all pay 60 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,600 more. So I've got my second through in 61 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:40,120 line. Yeah. 62 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,920 Let's see. Bungie caused a $765 million 63 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:46,960 impairment loss to PlayStation. I think impairment is like, you 64 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,720 have success and then you are impaired. 65 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,640 You know, you like, you slowly lose your hearing. 66 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:54,960 But I guess, I guess a hearing impaired is blind, right there 67 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,720 is deaf red starting. But I don't know. 68 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,560 I feel like they should have known as what I was saying. 69 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,760 Like, if you go back and look at what everybody said who's ever 70 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,360 worked with Bungie, it's basically like, these guys are 71 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,960 herpes. Feels good to get it, but it 72 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,640 doesn't feel good to have it. I'm just saying dude, I'm 73 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:15,880 telling you, the pattern is with Bungie. 74 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,800 It feels good to get it, it sucks to have. 75 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,280 I'm just saying that's what it is. 76 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,200 Valve realized that the year is 2026 and there's such a thing as 77 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,040 a fucking reservation program. Suspiciously after they were 78 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,480 able to bloat their numbers with their inability to do their own 79 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,760 reservation program. This is a company that's either 80 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,880 inept as fuck or just scammed everybody because there's no way 81 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,400 way around it. They know what a reservation 82 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,920 program is, right? They've done reservations 83 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,640 before. So they either tried to scam you 84 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,560 or they're incompetent as fuck as a company, you should never 85 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,400 trust them again. They didn't even figure out how 86 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,200 to do a reservation system. Come on, come on, we know what 87 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,000 they're doing. They were, they were upselling 88 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,440 their piece of shit controller and they were trying to get the 89 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,200 scalpers to end up being like, look how cool this system is 90 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,240 dude, there's such a player of the game. 91 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,040 People like to pretend that they're not, but they are. 92 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,440 They're like the chick in Kingdom Come to you Bang, and 93 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,400 she seems all innocent. When you go back and talk to 94 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,000 her, she tells you you're not as good as everybody else and 95 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,400 you're like, yeah. Yeah. 96 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,519 She is that. Let's see. 97 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,360 Yeah, I saw some crazy prices for the controller, some people 98 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,040 paying like 300 bucks. Yeah, complete scam. 99 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:30,880 Average console hardware prices move from $250 in 2019 to 500 100 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:38,080 plus as of today. So in six years it's doubled. 101 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,320 Damn. Would you rather have the price 102 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,800 of the console double or the price of the games go double? 103 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:46,680 No, let's say the games go to 80. 104 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,760 I'd say the average price turns to 80 or the single one time 105 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,280 purchase is doubled of a console. 106 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,440 I think still the single time purchase me too because just 107 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,320 like PCI feel good about the purchase, you know, even though 108 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,080 it was expensive, it kind of over the long the very long run 109 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:11,400 pays off, yeah. Yeah, I think it sucks, but I I 110 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,480 would I would rather pay a little bit more upfront. 111 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,600 No might might make me think about buying your system a 112 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,000 little bit harder before I do it. 113 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,600 But when I do, I would have more of an investment because that's 114 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,680 how humans work. Have a little bit of investment 115 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,680 in that purchase and then and then those games which I buy 116 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:32,080 more of because I think a person who pays 60 once has a slightly 117 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,240 less friction to get 60 again. But a person who pays 80 once 118 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,080 has a reservation or at least a friction even spending 40 again. 119 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:41,280 That's the honest. Truth. 120 00:05:41,280 --> 00:05:45,480 Yeah, it's almost, almost like you have a high cooldown, you 121 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,200 know, like. That's absolutely right. 122 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,800 You got your normal attack and you have your area of your old 123 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,840 thing attack. That's the same attack, but it 124 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:55,800 does more, but it's cooldown is much longer. 125 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,560 Yeah, yeah, so true, man, So true. 126 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,600 Let's see. Hope everybody's doing well. 127 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,120 I'd like to know what games you guys are playing. 128 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,200 If you are playing anything, that'd be great. 129 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:09,560 I saw some people playing Soros, which sold like shit, like utter 130 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,280 damnation, man. Really surprising. 131 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,960 Not, not surprising because we brought this up before the sales 132 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,240 were announced, that nobody was talking about it at all. 133 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:23,600 And it felt very weird that like no one was really discussing it. 134 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,960 And then to see that like it, it really had done poorly. 135 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,520 Sad because it's a good game. I enjoyed it or I've enjoyed 136 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,200 most of it. Yeah. 137 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,560 Yeah, a lot of positive reviews, very positive. 138 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:39,080 Yeah, we're going to talk about. We're going to talk about that 139 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,400 and talk about I dude, I think we're headed for not headed. 140 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,360 We've talked about it before, but I think there's going to be 141 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,000 a lot of changes in how like people react to reviews, people 142 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:56,080 react to well, people react to anybody else's reaction. 143 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:02,040 I think humans are reacted out meaning it we we all know the 144 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,640 game of reactions of any kind, whether it be reviews, whether 145 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,240 it be watching a YouTube channel and watching somebody else's 146 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,120 channel and using it for your content. 147 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Feels like we're all so there's so much now that like nothing 148 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,840 matters anymore, you know, like just nothing matters. 149 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,640 So but sad to see that do poorly. 150 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,880 Hopefully that means nothing for them in some way. 151 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,880 But yeah, it it definitely. I think they were saying it's on 152 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:31,160 track for like 1 3rd 11, less than 1/3 of the numbers of 153 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,000 Returnal, but we'll have to see. That's surprising too, because 154 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,440 Returnal new IP kind of came out of nowhere. 155 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,080 Yeah, later on it became a really acclaimed game, but it 156 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,440 wasn't like the biggest hit early on. 157 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:52,480 Well, I mean, who knows? Like it's hard, especially when 158 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,080 you look at pre-orders these days. 159 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,520 I mean, do pre-orders mean how many people get a pre? 160 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:57,760 Let's say how many people get a pre. 161 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,840 Let's say your game is available like this was a bit available 162 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,920 for pre-order. You buy the game for pre-order. 163 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,280 Does that mean you're going to hold on to it? 164 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,040 Probably wish list. No. 165 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,640 Right. Wish list, no. 166 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,520 But I think there's so many ways to get a game now. 167 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:17,480 And like Returnal, yes, it it was the original, so maybe it 168 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,920 didn't have as much heat in in the known like what it's known 169 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,720 for. But in a way, I think it handled 170 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,960 the story a lot better. And I think a lot of there was 171 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,560 like a lot of really cool Cthulhu style stuff. 172 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,720 And this one was more demons. And there might for a lot of 173 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,600 people who don't know Cthulhu, you might think they're 174 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,159 identical. They are not identical. 175 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,720 Demons and Cthulhu are way different vibe. 176 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,120 Yeah. Way different vibe. 177 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,840 Yeah. That's like assuming like, Hard 178 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,920 Rock and death metal are going to be the same when you go to a 179 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,440 concert, right? You might, they might. 180 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,000 They might both have two guitars, but it's going to be 181 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,560 weird. Let's see. 182 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:55,800 What do we got? PS Five games or 80 in my 183 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,520 country. Damn, that's too bad. 184 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,320 Damn. Gabe knows how to make a 185 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,080 reservation for a yacht. Yeah. 186 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,400 No shit. Nintendo should have been. 187 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,280 Nintendo should have been raised the price. 188 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,000 Mask and mask and off says Nintendo should have been raised 189 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,440 the price. Such a small company needs AI 190 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,600 think that's two sentence. I think that's two comments. 191 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,640 Is one or something? Yeah, something happened there. 192 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,800 Something. Happened there, Starla, Starla 193 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,680 says. How dare you insult my raycons. 194 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:31,920 I bought some, so I made them my entire personality as a result 195 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,840 of some cost. Oh, you're responding to the 196 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,360 yeah, to the to the video at the starting. 197 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,360 Yeah, as you guys can tell, I I, I said it was almost a year and 198 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,400 a half ago now. I'm just, that's not me, man. 199 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,080 If I don't like something, I'm just going to tell you. 200 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,720 I don't, I don't care. Like that kind of stuff pisses 201 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,560 me off. The, you know, like every four 202 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:55,440 or five weeks there's some new thing. 203 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,680 Hewell was the big one. Hewell. 204 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,680 I don't even eat. I don't even shit. 205 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,000 I just drink this small jug of Hewell and everything I need my 206 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,440 children pop out of my wife with no labor. 207 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,560 And you're just like, dude, shut the fuck up. 208 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:12,680 It's everything is so commodity now. 209 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,160 Like it's just Yeah. And then people become so 210 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,920 accustomed to it that you can get, you can be like, oh guys, I 211 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,920 got this. I got flown out to a special 212 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,640 place, got a series of substantially increasing and 213 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,880 magnitude blowjobs for three weeks. 214 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,320 And I'll be reviewing this game, but in no way shape or form did 215 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,520 the ever escalator of fellatio in any way, shape or. 216 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,440 Form change in any way? Yeah, I'm going to get my bag. 217 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,920 And that doesn't mean I'm bag. No, that means exactly what it 218 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,040 is. Otherwise we wouldn't have the 219 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,120 entire goddamn laws based around it. 220 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,520 Yeah, let's see. I love the idea of increasing 221 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,680 intensities of fellatio, just getting you to the peak 222 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,440 influence. Dude, one to 10 man, you don't 223 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,520 know like that could yeah, you by the time that 10 comes up 224 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,760 you're like, I'll do anything just stop I'm dehydrated. 225 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,200 I need and then you sell more of the Huell. 226 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,640 So you get to 10 and then you need the Huell and it's just 227 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,520 this never ending cycle, right? So. 228 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:15,360 There you go. Marcus Nintendo fan says 229 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,320 Nintendo bump in the switch of the bump in the price of the 230 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:23,080 Switch 2 to 400-9999 in the US. Are we officially past the point 231 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,680 where Nintendo hardware feels like the affordable console 232 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:27,720 option? No, because it's more 233 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,160 affordable, right? It's still more affordable than 234 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,160 the other two. Yeah. 235 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,800 But if you look at history, what's affordable means, I 236 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,920 think. Is Xbox now the most affordable? 237 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,680 One Oh yeah. Series S, Series S, Yeah. 238 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:45,080 Series S You are right, man. You are right. 239 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,040 Yeah, yeah. Happy Friday, you 2. 240 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,200 That's either Joe Sayahoo or Jose. 241 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,400 Jose Josiah. It's either Joe's or it's 242 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,680 Josiah. Yahweh. 243 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,760 Don't have no clue how to pronounce that one. 244 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,920 Giabroni is playing some Diablo Four. 245 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,520 Yeah. Not buying Soros full price 246 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,080 after Returnal. I like 30. 247 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,400 You didn't like Returnal? That's fair. 248 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:14,440 OK, Yeah, that's fair. Let's see. 249 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:15,680 Yeah. It's not the most affordable, 250 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:19,800 right? Switched Series s s. 251 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Oh yeah? Yeah, I thought you were talking 252 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,760 about Cyrus I. Know. 253 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,520 No apologize. No, I was talking about the I 254 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,040 was talking about the ever escalating series of blow jobs. 255 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,800 OK yeah, moving on from there. As you can tell I have no 256 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,200 filter. I'm really tired so there's a 257 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,000 high chance that I'm going to get arrested. 258 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:40,160 Let's see let's move on from there. 259 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,320 What else do we got for news? Yeah, Bungie, let's talk about 260 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,280 this. So Sony did a bunch of financial 261 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:49,560 stuff. They talked about a bunch of 262 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:52,400 shit, which we'll get to today. A lot of it is, it doesn't 263 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,920 matter much unless you're some fucking, you know, YouTube with 264 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,400 like a goddamn PlayStation fetish or something creepy like 265 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,160 that. But Bungie caused $765 million 266 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,080 impairment loss for PlayStation. So diving into it more, Marathon 267 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,160 and Destiny developer Bungie underperformed all of last year, 268 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,040 which basically hit Sony's books finally this year. 269 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,400 Other than, like I said, being the, you know, the developer 270 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,320 version of herpes, what is what's your take away? 271 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:35,800 What do you think when I say? This I, my instant reaction is 272 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:41,920 that we're looking at it with a very short horizon. 273 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,800 And I think Sony views it as a more of like a long term 274 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,320 investment that certainly hasn't paid off yet. 275 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,960 But you know, they, they kind of have a vision of what they want 276 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,320 to do with it. At least that's, that's maybe 277 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,000 the hopeful version of that is that, you know, they, they kind 278 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,520 of have a vision of where they want to go and they're not there 279 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,720 yet. It's not really paid off yet, 280 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,640 but it it's it's going to kind of build into something with 281 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:15,640 time. So do you think maybe that made 282 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,720 more sense two years ago when they had got it versus 2 years 283 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,640 into it and it still hasn't turned into anything? 284 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,880 Now that you put it in numbers, yes, I, I think I, I think I was 285 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,800 way too charitable. You were, but I I Yeah, Yeah. 286 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,240 No, man, I get where you're coming from. 287 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,360 Like, like there's a thought process. 288 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,680 You buy, you know, you pay more for a top star, right? 289 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,680 They're going to jump on your basketball team, but it might 290 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,040 take them a year to pick up your game plan. 291 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,000 That makes sense. Yeah. 292 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,480 But year 2, you expect some, some solid returns? 293 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,000 Probably, yeah. Yeah, and it's just been, you 294 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,200 know, issue after issue, whether it be with the the major game, 295 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,320 whether it be with this, whether it be their inability to assist 296 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,560 other devs with making live games. 297 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,560 But I get where you're coming from. 298 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Yeah, I it's, it's almost a billion dollars is all I'm 299 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,920 saying though. And if you pay a billion dollars 300 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,760 and you lose another almost billion dollars and they paid 301 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,240 many billion, at some point, don't you like go that's too 302 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,840 many billions. It's still a better investment 303 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,520 than Meta with VR, yeah. Yeah, that's for sure. 304 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,440 By like 20 or 30X. 20 or 30X? Yeah. 305 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,240 They're playing the Super long game. 306 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:39,240 Yeah, I've no clue. I think it's very cool that the 307 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,280 game Marathon, they tried to sort of massage the numbers 308 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,160 yesterday, which was at first when you read the numbers, 309 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,000 you're like, oh, this doesn't sound so bad with Bungie. 310 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,240 And then you realize they're talking about the people who got 311 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,200 it happiness with the game. They were like, yeah, there's 312 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,480 yeah, there's a lot of happiness around this. 313 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,200 And I guess I just at first when you read it the way it was 314 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,400 written for PR stuff, it sounded like a bunch of people bought 315 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,000 it. But that isn't what it, that 316 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,080 isn't what it was. It was that the people who the 317 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,080 people who have bought it are still playing it or there's a 318 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,480 high retention rate, but the actual overall numbers. 319 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,360 Are still that is a good signal. That's a good signal for the 11 320 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,720 people playing for sure. I'm just joking. 321 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,920 It's not 11, but yeah, yeah. Yeah. 322 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,600 Yeah, but the numbers are low, I mean. 323 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,680 They're low. Yeah, any way you slice it, you 324 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,320 look at the concurrence, which I hate talking about, but it's 325 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,320 like, it's a live game. It's different than, you know, 326 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,720 we don't even need to bring them up with a single game, really. 327 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,480 But when you look at a game like this where your bread and butter 328 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:41,480 is on it, you know? Yeah, maybe maybe we're seeing 329 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,320 the impact of the game being a bit more hardcore than something 330 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,080 like Arc Raiders, where like the player base is going to be like 331 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,200 who who is playing it that they're likely to kind of stay 332 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:58,440 on it because it takes a certain kind of skill level to to be 333 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,320 able to play the game well. So like the people who get there 334 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,320 are likely to stay. Yeah, true. 335 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,480 But then a ton of people will just bounce off or not even get 336 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,720 there in the first place. Yeah, yeah, it's a good point. 337 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:14,000 It's even better if you make a good game at first. 338 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,160 So people who continue to play will want to get better. 339 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,880 But hey, you know they got. It really is. 340 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,000 They got half the equation and getting that balance right is 341 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,800 tough. Right between like having a a 342 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,520 good skill cap in the game that feels rewarding when you get 343 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,840 better at it compared to the like the price of entry, like 344 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,160 how long it takes you to do. You know, you need to be this 345 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,840 tall to ride the roller coaster type situation. 346 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,160 Like how long does it take you to get to that level where you 347 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,120 can play the game and have some good fun. 348 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,560 It feels like that's quite high for Marathon compared to Arc 349 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,520 Raiders where it's pretty much pick it up and go. 350 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,120 Yeah, seeing a lot of people saying they're playing pregmata, 351 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,000 that's very cool. Yeah, I finished it as well. 352 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,720 Good game, solid game. Is it your game of the year? 353 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,800 I've seen a lot of people saying that they expect that pregmata 354 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,880 will be game of their game of the year and I'm, I guess I 355 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,400 assume they're, they're stopping their year at 508-2026. 356 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,400 Yeah. I don't understand how that 357 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,000 would be a question or a discussion right now, but has 358 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,040 it? Was it that good to you? 359 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,840 No, for me, it's not in that conversation, even compared to 360 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,120 the games that I've played already this year. 361 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,760 It's a solid game and for a new IPI think it's very cool and 362 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:35,880 it's it's sort of fresh. It's got a nice touching 363 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,320 narrative and and good relationship between the 364 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,960 protagonist and the kid. Probably one of my favorite like 365 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:48,320 kid characters in a game, but it's not at that level that I 366 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:55,440 would put it up there in terms of holy mole, you know, But it 367 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:00,960 is very solid, very good presentation, solid technically 368 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,880 as well. It kind of like hits all the 369 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,920 boxes and and has some really interesting and and fresh 370 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,560 elements to it. That's when I assumed I assumed 371 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,800 that any of the you know, but. I also had a clear feeling that 372 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,400 if it lasted, I, I think I put in 12 hours. 373 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,760 If it lasted 20, I don't know if I'm there all the way. 374 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,400 I, I kind of had that feeling that it was a good length, you 375 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,400 know, that's what she said. But I don't know if I was in for 376 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,160 double that duration necessarily. 377 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,200 So it was a good short experience as it was. 378 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,720 That's cool yeah, I've seen a lot of people saying that so 379 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,680 it's good. It it definitely seems more 380 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,000 generic than I thought it was going to be in its gameplay just 381 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,240 because when I first saw that Tetris like I thought that shit 382 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,280 was going to be I don't know, I guess I just thought it was 383 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,280 going to be experimentation the game, but it actually wasn't 384 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,560 that which in a way I actually think it's probably better if I 385 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,800 decide to play it versus like every two minutes they're trying 386 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,480 some new mini game thing, but. Yeah, I don't know. 387 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:08,640 I don't know what you would feel about the mini game, because 388 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,240 that's the part Yeah. Did did you like it? 389 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,600 Does it feel like a whole game around? 390 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,520 No, no, yeah. OK. 391 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,240 So I like the idea. If like it was against one boss, 392 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,080 he had to do it like he wrote, reprogrammed your computer and 393 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,200 you had to hack his back. That's one thing. 394 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:26,440 Doing that all the time. No, even watching it is 395 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,360 insufferable. I tried to watch when some 396 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:30,040 people in our chat were streaming it and I was like, 397 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:35,600 there's no that is not just not for me, but for me. 398 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,680 Yeah, that's the main reason I felt like. 20 hours might be 399 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,440 too. Much a longer game would not 400 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,480 have been a good idea around that system. 401 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,400 So I was OK with what I got. That's cool. 402 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,800 But you're doing that a lot. I know you have some ways around 403 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,680 it where you can like auto hack. I didn't do those. 404 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,040 I I just did it all the time. So I was really, you know, doing 405 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,920 that all the time. Yeah, I think I'll, I'll 406 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,280 probably check it out when I get a chance. 407 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,120 We'll just have to see. It's one of those games. 408 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:09,640 It is very cool though. Maybe I'll watch a video of it 409 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,600 too, you know, like I just any game that tries to like I'm just 410 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:20,680 not at any game that's like hinges too much on the emotional 411 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,960 stuff. Just doesn't I it feels for 412 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,880 somebody else. It's that it's hitting. 413 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,280 It's not that it's not hitting for me, it's that it quite 414 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,880 literally feels like nothing's happening. 415 00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:35,120 I don't even feel the, I don't even feel like they're tempting. 416 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:37,960 I can tell they are. But I'm saying from an emotional 417 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,200 standpoint, I'm just sitting there going like, what's 418 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,160 happening right now, Why are we talking? 419 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,600 Let's move on, or why are we doing this or why do I care what 420 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,280 the kid was doing or why do I care? 421 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,360 But then a game will hit in that way and suddenly I'm right there 422 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:53,360 with you. I just don't think for a 423 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:56,520 pragmata it would work and I don't know why Life is Strange 424 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,800 would work or a pragmata, wouldn't I? 425 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:03,880 I I can't, I can't quite grasp why one would work for me and 426 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,760 one wouldn't, where maybe both would work for you, which is. 427 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,120 You're a bit of a tough customer. 428 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,880 How dare you. Just not like every. 429 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,680 Yeah true. You know, how dare just not like 430 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,840 every game. Yeah, yeah, that is true. 431 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaking of, no, we'll go. We'll do that one out in a bit. 432 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,680 Let's see, let's let's talk. Also, let's continue a little 433 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,920 bit of the Sony discussion, though we branched out for a 434 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,840 second. Sony hasn't decided on PS6 435 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,120 release date or price, may even change their business models in 436 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:33,320 response. I love how everybody's so 437 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,120 surprised, man, They're so surprised to come. 438 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,960 They're just like, Oh my God, somebody's changing. 439 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,680 We've demanded game companies change for 20 years and they're 440 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,800 finally doing it. They could do whatever they 441 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,160 want. The maybe they could sell it, 442 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,160 they could package it, they could give you a payment plan so 443 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,400 they can grift you more. I mean, what other way are they 444 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,640 going to deliver to you an entire piece of hardware, right? 445 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:01,520 Like what other ways are there? Build it yourself. 446 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,440 OK, so how? How many different ways are 447 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,360 there? What other models there's? 448 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,400 There's Nintendo grifting you to build your own fucking headset. 449 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,200 The Labo thing, OK, so you could go the, you know, the mafia 450 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,960 style Yakuza Nintendo piece of shit way. 451 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,600 You could go payments and you could use a company like 452 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,600 Affinity I believe is what they're called through Amazon, 453 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,480 which is about 6000% interest is what it feels like. 454 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,760 Complete scam. Like I don't know how they're in 455 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,560 business. They're like there's they are a 456 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,640 scam. They the amount of interest they 457 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:39,360 charge is ridiculous for people. In the old days they did 458 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:42,160 consoles with cable companies, but there's no cable. 459 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,960 I mean, there are cable companies, but they're not as 460 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,280 big as they used to be. What other ways are there to get 461 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,440 you a console? Unless they're talking about 462 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,880 streaming, right? Yeah, unless they're talking 463 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,600 about streaming. Yeah, and remember, they're the 464 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,920 ones who made such a point that a streaming game just really 465 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,760 isn't a game. That's not the way they ever 466 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,080 wanted to go. But times changed. 467 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,720 Times are rough for these giants. 468 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,160 Times are rough for these giant multibillion dollar companies. 469 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,880 They're singing the Blues. They're on a crossroad somewhere 470 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,360 making a deal with a demon to try to figure out a way to 471 00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:21,240 grift. You have more cash then Xbox. 472 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaking of Grifton, dude, this is the, this is probably one of 473 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,480 the more embarrassing things I've seen in a couple weeks. 474 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,880 So Xbox is like, look at us, we've changed the shape and 475 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,040 color of the Xbox achievements. Look at us. 476 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,440 And they did like 3 super small software things. 477 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,960 Now admittedly those software things have to go through 478 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,800 certifications, so they most likely were already in effect or 479 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,520 being decided upon prior to the new CEO replacing Phil. 480 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,520 But dude, people are like this is a huge change. 481 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,560 It's a game changer. This is a sign of Xbox. 482 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,080 Oh that's what they did. They changed the fucking boot of 483 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,480 the Xbox to the old. Xbox, they changed the logo, 484 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,320 right? Yeah, Yeah, it has like the 485 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,400 yeah. Green dude it this is right out 486 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,480 of PR one O 1. It is weaponizing dumb 487 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,320 influencers like this is exactly what it's for. 488 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,720 Like if like this would be something that you and I would 489 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,640 be like, look, this is a great if we were, if we were like just 490 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,760 one company and we saw our company doing that. 491 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,120 We talked for 15 hours about how this was intrinsically connected 492 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:29,720 to the massive, incredible down to the minutiae changes that 493 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,000 were existing at this company that will see us into the future 494 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,280 forever as success. It's like, no, they changed a 495 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,360 fucking MP4. Yep. 496 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:45,040 They changed an MP4 dude. And it's weird how something 497 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,040 like that could be spun as positive or negative. 498 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,520 You could say, well, look at this, you know, new person, 499 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,720 they're trying to seem like they're changing stuff, but 500 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,680 really what they change the color of the logo, you know, 501 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,400 like they change the PR or it's, it's a nothing burger. 502 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,960 And then on the flip side, you you can you can do what a lot of 503 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,400 people are doing, which is making a big deal out of it. 504 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,440 No, no, This marks change. This is a time. 505 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,080 This is a time to. Change. 506 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,680 And, and it's weird that we've gone that way because out of the 507 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,840 two, I would have almost expected the the -1. 508 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,640 Or negative. Yeah, but it's interesting. 509 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,280 I, I really don't make anything out of it, you know, I. 510 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,120 Mean there's nothing even to make I mean I don't even know 511 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:38,440 how you would make something out of it. 512 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,200 How stupid would you have to be to be like, dude the MP4 changed 513 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,440 Let me describe to you for 15 hours why this is the biggest 514 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,640 change known to man it's like dudes stop, stop yeah whatever. 515 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,760 But anyway. Yeah, because even the the other 516 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,520 stuff that people raised is she's made claims that we will 517 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,120 stay away from AI slop and, you know, focus on great creative 518 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,400 projects and games. I mean, that's fine. 519 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,840 I feel like that was already stated as a preference, you 520 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,640 know, way before. Yeah. 521 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,640 But also for them to state that doesn't mean anything because 522 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,760 what what what matters is what actions they actually take. 523 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,720 You know, and we've seen them say one thing and then change it 524 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,680 when it makes sense to change business. 525 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,400 Wise so they're saying that they're not doing AI yet on the 526 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,200 same day these changes happened they hired 3 of the top tier AI 527 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,960 guys to now run Xbox. Right. 528 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,680 And they have the massive AI data centers, Yeah. 529 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,560 By the way, you know me, I don't care about the AI thing at all. 530 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,840 They can go for it thing. You know, I did see that they 531 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,880 stopped doing Copilot and people thought that that was an active 532 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,800 choice. And I'm like, it probably was 533 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,760 just save money because of the development of Copilot on a 534 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,520 console is going to cost you millions of dollars. 535 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,120 So you cancel it. You now have saved cash and you 536 00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:57,160 can appear like you're gamer centric. 537 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,880 Look how gamer centric I am. It's like, not so much, but 538 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,200 yeah, I don't know. I the AI thing doesn't bother 539 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:11,520 me, but it is weird to be like, don't we find it interesting 540 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,360 that an entire console, and this will be a PlayStation as well, 541 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,880 this will be Nintendo's new one as well. 542 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,320 That now it's going to be about the negation of something in a 543 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,360 system. It will no longer be about the 544 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,600 positive added parts of the system. 545 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,240 It's going to be about the negation of something we will 546 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,440 not have blank in our system. That shows how bad the industry 547 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,640 is right now. Now an industry can be good 548 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,000 money wise and it can be good happiness wise. 549 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,320 Because I love my games. But it can show you how bad the 550 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,920 industry is in its curvature of like, especially innovation 551 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,080 where you're actively going out of your way to tell people. 552 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,120 The big thing about our blank is that it won't have this, you 553 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,000 know, which is that is weird. That is weird. 554 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,960 Also, you've heard the story. The more you concentrate on your 555 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:02,480 enemy, the more the enemy wins, even if they don't show up for 556 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,600 the game. So if you continually say we're 557 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,400 not doing AI, we're not doing this and that, guess where AI is 558 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,440 just consistently getting mentioned everywhere. 559 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,880 It's sort of weird. Yeah. 560 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,200 Is Manny 500 DOP? Are you down with DOP? 561 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,640 Sup, guys, What did you both make of Stranger Than Heaven 562 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,640 showcase? Thanks to the pod. 563 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,600 I thought it was great. I thought it was. 564 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,880 We sat, had about 20 people in chat. 565 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,200 Looked, fucking looked great. Did you see it, Johnny? 566 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,760 You were in. There. 567 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,560 Yeah, this was like a day ago or something. 568 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,360 Weren't you in there with us? Or were you not? 569 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,760 No, no, it wasn't there for this one. 570 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,760 I I saw it early today. Johnny out of this thing. 571 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,200 What a piece of shit. I'm sorry. 572 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,840 What did you say? I'm just joking. 573 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,000 Go ahead. You saw it. 574 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,120 What'd you think? I honestly, I didn't see 575 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:57,760 anything that different that we hadn't seen but but I'm liking 576 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,080 what I'm seeing. You know, I like the time skips. 577 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,400 That's exciting. Looks good. 578 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,080 I. Feel like time skips, True death 579 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,480 with weapons and stabbing guns. We saw. 580 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,640 We saw dynamic weather for the first time ever. 581 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,960 Time skips I thought were pretty a pretty big deal. 582 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,520 Those were the major ones. And then the entire switch over 583 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,720 to its focus on music was really interesting. 584 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,800 Now, I don't know if that's going to turn into anything 585 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,120 because it could be the world's worst game ever. 586 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,560 When he's like doom, doom, doom. When a dog barks near him and 587 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,440 he's like collecting the dog bark tone. 588 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,960 I don't know what that's going to mean. 589 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,000 So yeah, but I would say universally positive is what I 590 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,560 basically heard. I don't know if that'll turn out 591 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,720 any anything. It also graphically looked a 592 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,200 good deal better. Holy shit where the city's busy? 593 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,680 I think when we were counting typical cities in Yakuza versus 594 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,720 this, it was over 2 times as many MPCS which that could help 595 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:56,320 it be feel more at life. You know, feel more like real 596 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:01,400 people are running around. I also like the idea of do the 597 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,840 protagonist and they even stated that they weren't doing the 598 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,760 typical thing, which is like 2 guys split up at the start, one 599 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,520 becomes a millionaire, 1 does not, and at the very end they're 600 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,600 going to have to battle like 1 with yeah. 601 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,960 The classic. Yeah, the, I can't remember 602 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,400 who's who's in one, not Jackie Chan, the other one. 603 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,440 But anyway, yeah. And it's like, you're going to 604 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,120 have to battle blah, blah, blah at the end of this movie or 605 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,640 whatever. And instead they're like, Nope, 606 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,200 they end up teaming up and, you know, putting their, their, the, 607 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,280 the skills they've learned throughout the time to use and 608 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,000 become partners. Now, it doesn't mean they won't 609 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,560 battle at the end. It doesn't mean like there won't 610 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,560 be some like ultimate turn, which like I was always the bad 611 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,160 guy. I've I I lacked my position in 612 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,200 the sphere of influence I have. I like my money. 613 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,240 Yeah, they got some strong aesthetics. 614 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,400 Very strong aesthetics. It looks very stylistic. 615 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,760 They got Snoop Dogg. They got the murderer Snoop 616 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,160 Dogg. Everybody forgets Snoop Dogg. 617 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,880 Murder. Have we confirmed it's actually 618 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,760 him? Yeah, it literally said his name 619 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,200 and he talked in the video. Multiple times. 620 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,640 Yeah, he did interviews. Yeah, it's for sure him. 621 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,760 Yeah, the murderer once known as what? 622 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,600 It was his real name, Calvin or whatever. 623 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,640 I do love that we celebrate murderers in our video games. 624 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,680 We're like, dude, I love that he murdered somebody, put him in 625 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,720 our Yakuza. But but by the way, lost 626 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,600 judgement. Guy did cocaine off a hooker's 627 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,920 belly. He's gone. 628 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,720 We're firing him. That guy did cocaine. 629 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,880 He's gone forever. Can't ever work in games. 630 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,640 This murderer, he can be here. He's all right. 631 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,520 Dude, games in a nutshell right there. 632 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,840 Like that is some crazy shit. How weird we are when it comes 633 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,720 to what we accept what I think graphically yeah it looks good I 634 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,760 think they showed him fight a little bit they they showed 635 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,280 Snoop fight a little bit they did some interviews different 636 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,200 characters they showed the music system lot of weapons combat is 637 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,280 2 hands what your your right your right bump buttons are your 638 00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:00,320 right hand your left or your left hand, which gave me an 639 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,280 advent rising Oh my God we're fucked kind of feeling but. 640 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,440 Was it bad in that one? Yeah, Rising was so bad that 641 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,360 they couldn't even do the contest that they had planned 642 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,680 out. So. 643 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,000 Pretty bad. Any any let's see what's let's 644 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,840 see. Snoop will never turn down a 645 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,280 paycheck. They will 100% show baby Kiryu 646 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,120 being born in an epilogue. Oh, true they will. 647 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,520 Snoop's bodyguard killed somebody, not Snoop, this person 648 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,920 says. That's weird because literally 649 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,720 didn't he go to jail for the murder? 650 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,880 Oh, maybe it was a maybe it was a what's the what's the term 651 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,760 assisted murder? Assisted assisted bodyguard 652 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,560 influence murder. I'll have to look up, I'm out of 653 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,480 the loop. Snoop was. 654 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,560 Acquitted. Therefore he's fine. 655 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,160 Snoop was acquitted. Hey, if the glove don't quit or 656 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,640 if the glove don't fit a quit, right? 657 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:02,040 So that's the way it is. What do we got for any questions 658 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,560 in discord? Do we have anything cool? 659 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,320 All right. Let's amazing. 660 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,840 Cal here says, is there a classic game that you never 661 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,360 played but you would happily dive into if an updated version 662 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,000 were to be produced? Looking at you Advent Rising. 663 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,760 What are the chances he mentions that game too? 664 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,320 I don't know, but I feel like that's weird. 665 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,880 Yeah, we're, I guess we're living in a simulation. 666 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:45,760 I guess that's it. What was? 667 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,280 What was the gist of it though? What was the gist of Cal is? 668 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,920 There a classic game that if you were to be. 669 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,159 Continue. Sorry, I got to put. 670 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:58,840 You were to be produced in an updated version today you would 671 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,160 you would be down to to play classic game. 672 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,480 I. Don't know. 673 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,560 Do you know any? I don't really know any. 674 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,440 Like I mean the ones we always bring up, I would say like. 675 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,560 There are tons, yeah, for sure. I'd love to see the graphics of 676 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,320 Space Harrier improved. You know, somebody was right. 677 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,600 It was. It was Snoop's bodyguard that 678 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,640 killed somebody. So Snoop had nothing to do with 679 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,080 it whatsoever and wasn't even in the state. 680 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,200 In fact, they're saying he wasn't on the planet when it 681 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,000 occurred. So it was definitely. 682 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,360 His He was off planet. He was on the planet he. 683 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,800 Was off planet, so I take it back. 684 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,400 I take it back. Rightfully corrected for sure. 685 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,400 He did not murder anybody. So therefore he could be 686 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,360 nothing. Chrono Trigger, you know the 16 687 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,560 bit stuff. Yeah, the 16 bit, that's what I 688 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,800 was thinking. Too, Yeah, those are rough for 689 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,760 me to play so I I definitely would would love a full on 690 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,960 remake. Yeah. 691 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,840 But I mean any I I can, I point it out here that anytime anybody 692 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,880 asks any in this questions asked all the time, I would say that 693 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:29,080 generally all the time. A lot of the games we play are 694 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,080 good now. They have multiple avenues of 695 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,880 gameplay. Now. 696 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,480 You can get out of the car in a third person game, blah, blah, 697 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,320 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But in the old days you couldn't 698 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,160 even do that kind of stuff. So I don't even know how they 699 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,120 would play now. I mean, there were a lot of 700 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,960 racing games that you're like, this is just a racing game. 701 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,960 Would they have loved to put on foot? 702 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,000 Yes, But they couldn't do we would we need to see that now. 703 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,200 So a lot of my games are better in their old times. 704 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,560 Yeah, somebody said Mercenaries. I would say Mercenaries is 705 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,280 probably the closest because back then it was already going 706 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,520 the third person get out of the truck lot of destruction. 707 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,160 So yeah, Mercenaries. It would be so different, right? 708 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:11,160 I mean, think about Final Fantasy 7, like the remake is so 709 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,440 different from the original game in many, many ways. 710 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,440 Yeah, yeah. They still try to retain, you 711 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,560 know, some of the spirit, of course, but inevitably it's 712 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,840 going to be completely different. 713 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:31,600 Inevitably spanky Steve #2 in the top chatters $2.00 super 714 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:37,600 chat mercenaries one with one thumbs up 1211. 715 00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:39,720 That's like a code if you believe in like. 716 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,120 But, you know, but do you think that Steve likes to be spanked 717 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,920 or he's the spanked? No, no, no. 718 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,200 If you're spanky Steve, you like to spank somebody. 719 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,520 No spank or Steve would like to spank somebody spanky Steve. 720 00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:52,720 Yeah, that sounds like a name in. 721 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,040 High school. No, it sounds like you're 722 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,040 spanking it in high school and somebody's like, oh, that's just 723 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,960 that's just spanking Steve over there. 724 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,120 Just just marking out a spot territory over there by those. 725 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,360 Lockers that sound that way. Yeah, respectfully. 726 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,520 Yeah, you're right about Final Fantasy. 727 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,000 It really did change a lot, didn't it? 728 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,720 Yeah. Do you think that game has been? 729 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:19,400 Do you think that game is a really good indication of just 730 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,960 how poorly gamers handle excitement and a new thing 731 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,680 coming out? Or do you think it hit every 732 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,640 high it should have? Because if you were to ask me 733 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,000 what the expectation was before Final Fantasy 7 Remake came out, 734 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,840 it was the identity. It was the this is going to be 735 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,640 like if whatever system this is on, it could be on the Sega 736 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,000 Master System and it would sell the most that year. 737 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,760 Like there is no game bigger. This is the biggest news of all 738 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,360 time in gaming and history. Humanity ever larger than the 739 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,680 moon landing. And then it got released and 740 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,480 then you got people. Even on the game. 741 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,000 Even on the second one, people started bitching about the game 742 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,840 being too big and all these like, you know, the the reality 743 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:09,440 of the dream that you hold aloft sort of gets, yeah, corrupted. 744 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,040 I don't know. I like them. 745 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,160 I like both of them, Yeah. But I feel. 746 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:20,320 Like that, it's a good example of how bad hope can be. 747 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,160 Yeah, yeah, the if if you think it's changeable, Yeah. 748 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,480 I mean, I'm really biased, right? 749 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,960 Because I I love, I love those games, love the music, like 750 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,120 everything about it. So for me it was magical being 751 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,520 able to re experience that through the lens of a modern 752 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,880 game. I think they did a great job 753 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,360 still representing a lot of the elements of the original, some 754 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,960 of the mini games and stuff, you know, bringing you back to the 755 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:52,080 gameplay as well. So for me the hype was really 756 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,640 well realized. I it met my level of excitement, 757 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,000 but I think some people had impossible expectations too. 758 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:07,040 The fact that it hit like as a really competent game that even 759 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,720 someone like yourself, not a fan like traditional fan enjoy the 760 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:17,160 had a good time with the game. To me that's really high bar for 761 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:22,720 success where even your non fans find it to be a solid, you know, 762 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,720 competent game. Let's forget about the jumping. 763 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,720 At least in the first one, the jumping was a disaster, right? 764 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,400 But. Yeah, I. 765 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,360 Yeah, the second one was a bit bloated, if I'm honest. 766 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,080 I I do agree with that actually. But on the at the same time, it 767 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,880 had some really fun open world, maybe some of the most fun open 768 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,680 worlds I've played. So it's a there. 769 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,200 There is a bit of a mixed bag to it, but overall it did really 770 00:40:54,200 --> 00:41:05,990 well. Yeah, it's it's a very, very 771 00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:09,710 interesting title because the way it was held aloft before it 772 00:41:09,710 --> 00:41:12,790 came out was that this is going to change the world and that, 773 00:41:13,550 --> 00:41:16,390 you know, like you just you, you have, you're not a gamer unless 774 00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:18,230 you played these games, whether it be old or new. 775 00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:21,830 And then they came out and competent is just not a word I 776 00:41:21,830 --> 00:41:24,310 would describe for this dream and hope that people had. 777 00:41:25,150 --> 00:41:30,000 But I like them. But I think it just goes to show 778 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,800 that people, I guess, gaming might be past the point, 779 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,520 especially with how many games that come out. 780 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,520 It may be past the point that you can have the same youthful 781 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,040 hope that maybe you had prior because there's so many titles 782 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,760 and they're coming so fast and they're like you. 783 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,720 So it's hard because it's so few and far in between. 784 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:54,240 And every game seems like it's the greatest thing ever for 785 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:59,680 exactly 8 hours. Yeah, I've, I've seen it a lot 786 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,120 over the years. You know, that it, it always 787 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,720 seems like the the next thing in the horizon is going to be the 788 00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:09,520 next big thing. I know that now it's GTA, which 789 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,520 admittedly might actually be the biggest thing ever. 790 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:17,080 But like Starfield kind of felt like that, you know? 791 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:22,720 Oh, Starfield is going to be the Magnus opus, right? 792 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,760 Or, and it was a game, right? That that's it at the end of the 793 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,440 day. Yeah, I and I don't even 794 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,360 remember it being a magnum opus. I just remember that it was like 795 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,800 it was Bethesda's next thing. So that means 50% of people 796 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,680 think it'll be terrible, 50% of people think it'll be the best 797 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,600 thing ever. And there's almost never a 798 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,400 person who just says, hey, I had a pretty good time. 799 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,920 You know, it's, it's almost like you got to get your stamp in in 800 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,240 a shorter, a shorter amount of time. 801 00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:53,280 You got to get your, you got to, it's like everybody is talking 802 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,920 with the same focus as a person who wants to write an article 803 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,080 that needs 800 words and no more. 804 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,880 That's how we now talk. It's like, I can't just tell 805 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,520 you, so today I played blah, blah, blah because that's not 806 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,600 going to work. That's not, you can't even talk 807 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,240 that way right now. It doesn't work that way. 808 00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:11,120 You can't, you won't garner attention. 809 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,080 To give an example, go into our chat. 810 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:18,560 If you're not the loudest talker in the chat, you're not talking 811 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,280 you, you may be making sounds, but no one's listening. 812 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,720 And that's the way it's become now is that it's just the chaff 813 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,160 and the way people talk about games and the elevated, it's 814 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,680 like, this must be, this is the greatest thing ever. 815 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,200 I've had reviewers be like, oh man, you know, the worst kind of 816 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,520 game to review the mediocre ones. 817 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,720 And I'm like, then you should never review because they're the 818 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:43,800 majority of fucking games. The majority of games, I'm 819 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,560 sorry, are mediocre. And that's fine. 820 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,480 But if you're having trouble, you should just jet. 821 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,080 You should just get the fuck out because like that it that 822 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,080 indicates you have, you know, a pretty pretty big emotional 823 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,120 problem which seems to be coming into games. 824 00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaking of getting the Frick out, Chadley in those games, as 825 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:08,560 ASA said in chat, is an absolutely abominable like game 826 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,480 design decision. The the Final Fantasy games, you 827 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,920 you have this kid, the the small blonde kid that's always talking 828 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,160 to you like oh, go here, do this. 829 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,720 Cool that you did this and that like it, just like calling you 830 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:25,400 constantly. And do you remember this or no 831 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,200 in these games? I have no fucking like the 832 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,240 little kid. I don't remember a little kid. 833 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,600 Final Fantasy 7, I know what you're saying. 834 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,760 Like I bet you the little guy. Dude, I'm sure I just. 835 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,920 I hated that that guy with a passion who gave him my number. 836 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:46,840 Why am I getting like constant DMS from this guy that's. 837 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,360 Funny that that is funny just because I don't remember. 838 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,920 I mean, I'm sure he was there. It's just I bet you I tuned him 839 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,040 out after a very small amount of. 840 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,160 Depressed memories. Yeah. 841 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,120 Yeah. Debate Nate says we need a video 842 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,560 essay on why video game creation takes longer than ever, even 843 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,520 when technology has gotten faster and better and everything 844 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,080 else is faster except video game creation. 845 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,520 Why is that? It is not correct. 846 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,280 Video creation is actually, I think the last word was about 847 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,120 40% faster. Now what you're probably 848 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,800 ascribing it to is very specific AAA large games. 849 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,320 But if you want to do that, remove AAA because Zombieoid 850 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,520 took thirteen years. So there's there's a, there's a 851 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,000 huge number of of indie games that take a long time too. 852 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,800 You actually seen the majority of games. 853 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,320 Now we're seeing a huge increase in speed in the, in the time of 854 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,880 games. What you're seeing is the ones 855 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,480 that people track. So you're seeing, you can't just 856 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,440 go on what people are telling you as being the ones to put 857 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,880 into your data set. But if you go out and you look 858 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,880 at other games, you'll see that many are coming out quite 859 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,480 quickly. Let me give you an example. 860 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,440 Three years ago I bitched because I was very upset that 861 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,560 the Yakuza devs got away with so much asset reuse, which I 862 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,840 believe in fully, but they were getting away with it when other 863 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,840 developers were being told you cannot use the same M16 sample 864 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,880 for an M16 or an M4 or A2, you know, whatever you may be using. 865 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,600 And I felt that that was completely unacceptable as this 866 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,480 sort of dividing line between one company and another company. 867 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,800 And it took years for that to happen. 868 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,840 But they're a company that reuses assets and releases games 869 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,360 faster than almost any company currently on the market. 870 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,680 Yakuza titles come out at a rat, a tat tat rhythm that is 871 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:27,840 absolutely like it's sort of awe inspiring. 872 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,560 After a while you're just like, dude, there's a New York as a 873 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,240 game. There's a like a pirate, you 874 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:34,560 know, like a like an astronaut, like a whatever. 875 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,440 You know, there's just always something new coming out. 876 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,360 That would be a good one that. Dude, I play, I play the shit 877 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,120 out of like an astronaut. But yeah, so there there's 878 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,000 multiple games coming out all the time, but you have to take 879 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,640 away, you cannot listen to me, can't listen to you can't listen 880 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,760 to anybody out there. Literally go out, find your own 881 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,840 information, track some games on your own. 882 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,320 You're going to be able to. You're going to be able to 883 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,200 figure it out for. Sure. 884 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,320 But it's interesting, right? Because you can do something 885 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:04,480 really quickly now because of all the, you know, blueprints, 886 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,920 all this kind of ease of use stuff. 887 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,360 So a single dev could actually put together a demo pretty 888 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,720 quickly. But when it comes to like 889 00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:18,320 putting together a full game, now the standard for textures 890 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:24,680 and, and just everything in a game is so high that that now to 891 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,160 scale to a full game, it's, you know, you require a lot of 892 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,760 people, a lot of time. Whereas before you just didn't 893 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,520 spend that much in like texture work, you know, all this type of 894 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,760 crap for it to look good in 4K or whatever it may be and not, 895 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,960 and it just doesn't scale that well. 896 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,920 You know, this is the kind of thing that does take just a lot 897 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:51,120 of manual labor and yeah, just people working on the project 898 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:56,120 for years, you know? I take full responsibility. 899 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,040 Like especially when I first started review and I'd see, you 900 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,400 know, cottage cheese texture. I'd be like, what the fuck is 901 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,560 this doing here? But I always. 902 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,080 Try to make sure. I tried to make sure people knew 903 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,600 it wasn't everywhere or there's a reason why I'm noticing it. 904 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,840 Because if everything looks like cottage cheese, you're just in a 905 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,280 game about dairy, right? That's fine. 906 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,280 You'd be like, this game is about dairy, therefore cottage 907 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,720 cheese textures aren't bothersome. 908 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,080 But you'd see those cottage cheese textures and be like, OK, 909 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,600 I have an issue with this. I have an issue with that. 910 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:28,440 I do take I do I do even watch when I'm talking about games to 911 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,360 to make sure to add a tiny bit of context in there. 912 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,200 Sometimes when I think that it's going to impact a viewer to to 913 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,760 like come across as the idea that oh, every game needs to be 914 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,720 able to do this and that because I don't believe it, not only not 915 00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:44,920 believe it, I think that we've given developers a I'll I'll 916 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,360 smash on anybody. It doesn't matter if it is Xbox 917 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:52,160 like today or whatever, but when you have a developer get smashed 918 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,720 on for no reason other than, you know, a reused rock texture, 919 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,440 that is bothersome. And I do think it needs to be 920 00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,920 pointed out that it's like that's how it works. 921 00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,400 Also, can I point out that one of the best technological 922 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,720 advancements in the last 20 years in video games is now one 923 00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:09,280 that people are literally losing their mind over? 924 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,960 And that's fucking photogrammetry. 925 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,840 So when photogrammetry first came up, it was considered one 926 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,880 of the holy grails. It was like, we can take a 927 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,280 picture of a rock and we can get this really cool rock and we can 928 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,400 shade it to look like a cartoon, but we still have that rock 929 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,360 formation. It's going to look real. 930 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,200 It's going to look natural, look better than anything we can 931 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,680 create because you know, nature, nature's better than me. 932 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,440 It's going to be awesome. We're going to put it in our 933 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,800 games. And now I'm seeing this 934 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,960 everywhere by the way that people are saying that if a if a 935 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,880 if a texture or slash model is photogrammetry D in without AI, 936 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,240 people should not consider it an asset from the game maker. 937 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:52,520 And I'm like, you need to just walk off a very short dock into 938 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,720 some water. Like dude, Can you believe that 939 00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:57,680 one of the best photogrammetry is one of the best? 940 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,360 Like real cool advancements for gaming and and force magnifiers 941 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,120 for or multipliers. Sorry for a developer to make 942 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,280 better games, make them faster. And would we really want our 943 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,040 developers to have to spend their time creating like a rock 944 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:18,200 face when realistically, you know, Unreal Engine gives you, I 945 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,000 forgot what it's called. You have these like super high 946 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:26,680 res rock surfaces you can pull in like, you know, it's sort of 947 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:31,360 like a library you can pull in. I want them to use that, you 948 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:36,480 know, and, and, and there's such variety of those that it, it 949 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,880 will never get repetitive because you can still get 950 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,120 creative. Those mix them up and, you know, 951 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,760 merge them and all kinds of stuff. 952 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,600 So yeah, I just don't want my developers to spend all their 953 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:52,240 time redoing something that's been done really well in a way. 954 00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,720 Agreed, always be cooking. PLN 25 super chat thank you very 955 00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:58,640 much. Always be cooking. 956 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,720 Always be cooking dude. I feel like you'd be real fat 957 00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:06,280 after a while though man. Yeah. 958 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,320 IA couple days ago I ate. I don't even think it was a lot 959 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,800 but I ate enough to feel uncomfortable. 960 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,440 I was like, I never want this feeling again. 961 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,480 Dude, that was me today because I, I had like a meal prep 962 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,200 container and I was committed to eating the whole thing, but it 963 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,920 was the last, you know, like I prepped a few containers but the 964 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,800 last one was packed. Bro. 965 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,920 It was like a lot of grams of like pasta with meat and stuff 966 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,760 and just it, it was heavy. You're making me sick just 967 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,040 talking about it, man That. Was good, yeah. 968 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,640 I needed a yeah, needed some coffee to process that. 969 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,760 Fallout 5 launching the same day as World War Three. 970 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,920 Yeah, it's going to be a while for some of those games. 971 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,800 But yeah, I would like to see more smarter asset reuse. 972 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,600 That's probably the major one I'd like to see. 973 00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,800 Yeah, it's the same with programming. 974 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,320 You know, like when you use libraries like. 975 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,320 We don't want to reimplement. Can you imagine making your own? 976 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:11,200 Library each time, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's weird. 977 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,480 Moving on from there. What do we got? 978 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,280 Oh, Xbox did an event yesterday called A Closer Look at Project 979 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,440 Helix. So I watched this. 980 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,680 It was sort of like, you know, when you who's the guy who looks 981 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,720 like The Who looks like he murders people, puts him in his 982 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:35,120 trunk. He works for Sony Cerny, Mark 983 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,280 Cerny. It this reminded me of a Mark 984 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,280 Cerny event where they have their nerd come out. 985 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,480 By the way, I love Mark Cerny. I'm just saying when he when he 986 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,080 does this today we'll be talking about cracking compression. 987 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,000 Cracking compression. That is haunting. 988 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,880 Man. I'm sorry, that is weird. 989 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,440 But Jason Reynolds talked at an event for Xbox Project Helix 990 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,080 yesterday, mostly tech. Talked about a new compression, 991 00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,720 Z standard compression, couple other things. 992 00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:02,960 There was really nothing. It was too crazy during this 993 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,560 discussion. It really was for developers. 994 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,760 It was about how to get developers into the ecosystem 995 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,920 more quickly. There's also about their their 996 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,560 plans, as Sony announced recently there, Sony's got plans 997 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,000 for this, for the RAM situation. A lot of neural texture 998 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,600 compression, a lot of compression, you know, new 999 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,520 libraries trying to figure out ways to compress to get as much 1000 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:29,920 as you can into these small, well, I say small games, but 1001 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,960 into a game package that doesn't grow, you know, insidiously 1002 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,080 large. So yeah, we'll have to see. 1003 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,080 Very weird time to be alive, man. 1004 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:45,480 We got a time when the majority of games now more than 50% are 1005 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,280 bought, are bought on PC. But the majority of people who 1006 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,280 think or desire to purchase APC for gaming are not going to be 1007 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,080 purchasing, purchasing APC for low end gaming really super low. 1008 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,600 And they're going to want to future proof a little bit, but 1009 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,480 then the cost raise dramatically now. 1010 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,080 So it's just a weird time, man, such a such an odd time to be 1011 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,840 like looking at who's moving around in the gaming like 1012 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,640 ecosystem. Do you have friends who've moved 1013 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:17,560 from console or from from handheld to to PC or from PC to 1014 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,720 handheld or from PC to console and. 1015 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:26,240 I feel like a lot of my my circle has has gone more towards 1016 00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:32,320 PC because of especially because of like game pricing and stuff 1017 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,880 because you you can find even day one pretty decent sales 1018 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,640 already on games. Like I don't remember the last 1019 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:45,000 time I had to buy a game like full price day one on PC. 1020 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,880 Usually you can kind of find it with, with at least a bit of a 1021 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,240 discount. Whereas in like PS-5 or, or any 1022 00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:56,840 of these consoles you're, you're buying, you know, pretty much 1023 00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,000 doesn't matter what game you're. That's not true. 1024 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,400 Sometimes you do get the reduced price once. 1025 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,760 But for example, I bought Cyrus the other day and I mean, it's 1026 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,160 stings. You know, you, you, you pay full 1027 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,800 price for that. Doesn't matter if you buy 1028 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,320 digitally or what. Can I ask you a question on that 1029 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,600 is not to be a Dick I'm just making sure I understand. 1030 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,280 If it stings to pay the the normal price for a game it 1031 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,400 stings. What do you mean exactly by 1032 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,400 that? Yeah, because I I think I've 1033 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:36,200 gotten used to paying less for a game because on PC the price is 1034 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,720 lower every time. So instead of paying maybe it's 1035 00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:42,640 60 for you. I'm not, I'm not sure. 1036 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,800 Depends on the region. Right? 1037 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,880 Say like 60? Yeah, I'm used to paying 50 or 1038 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:53,400 40 for APC game of that price simply because PC we have, you 1039 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,680 know, sites that sell, you know, codes for the game or you can 1040 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,080 kind of find deals everywhere and stuff like that. 1041 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:07,800 And then when you compare that to PS-5, it's it's just I have 1042 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,520 to think a lot harder about getting getting a game there 1043 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,320 because also there's a question of or probably runs better on my 1044 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,640 PC. So it's kind of like everything 1045 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,320 is leading me to want to buy it on PC more. 1046 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,480 Really the only thing pulling me to the console would be just a 1047 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,040 comfort because I do have it on the TV. 1048 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,320 It's a bit easier for me. I could hook up the PC, but 1049 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,800 realistically I don't want to have to deal with APC from my 1050 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,520 couch. So all this kind of stuff is 1051 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,960 what I think about, like do I buy it here or there? 1052 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,320 That's really the main variable for me is just like the comfort 1053 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,600 of it. But on the technical side, I 1054 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,400 would always just pick PC. And that's kind of what I see 1055 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:55,480 from a lot of my friend group as well, is that when the game is 1056 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:59,080 available on both, they're getting it on PC for sure. 1057 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,520 And the only times it's like Sorrows because it's an 1058 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,200 exclusive or we're getting it on PS-5. 1059 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,440 Yeah, So I've seen exactly the opposite, mostly revolving 1060 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,960 around Game Pass on the console where they're like, why should I 1061 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,840 do any of that when I know half of these games, like I'm not 1062 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,360 going to sit there and worry about for an extended period of 1063 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:19,760 time and I'm just enjoying games. 1064 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,000 And then I've heard a lot of people moving to mobile and I've 1065 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,720 heard a lot of mobile people moving to console. 1066 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,440 I think overall it depends on, not to be rude, but I think my 1067 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,920 friends probably don't have the money your friends have. 1068 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,280 So like the idea of buying APC is completely gone. 1069 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,800 Like it's gone. Yeah, if you have to buy APC 1070 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,040 now, it's very different. Well, that's what I was asking 1071 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,160 about moving, not owning right now. 1072 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,040 Like what are you hearing from friends moving? 1073 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,440 Because the friends moving was a thing prior to RAM and it was 1074 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,280 definitely feeling like it was becoming a thing prior to RAM. 1075 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,920 But as of now? It's it's hard to get into now. 1076 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,840 Dude, it's just, and that's what I was saying is like to buy one 1077 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,840 that you know, will let's say perform identical in Soros. 1078 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,840 It's more expensive than ever and it's more expensive for the 1079 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,080 console, right. So then is it like, OK, is that 1080 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,760 going to feed into subscription services, which we know Sony's 1081 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,600 looking more into? We know Microsoft is is going to 1082 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,280 continue to invest into and trying to make it sort of 1083 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,040 cheaper. So yeah, dude, it's just, it's 1084 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,520 ridiculous, right? But it also, yeah, it depends on 1085 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,440 where people are currently, what they have currently for cash, 1086 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,560 what their, you know, your current employment is. 1087 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:34,040 Because when you look at like the cost of something now to 1088 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,280 give you an example, and I'm not saying you would do this, I just 1089 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,320 want it. This is just a money example, 1090 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,960 but it's 33 consoles for the top tier video card. 1091 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,400 Just for the card. That's just one component, not 1092 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:54,120 the RAM, yeah. So when you talk about moving 1093 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,840 into something, it just becomes this whole rigmarole. 1094 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,640 I was putting together PCs. I like, for example, I was 1095 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,040 putting together PCs prior to the Rams situation at about 5:00 1096 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,960 or 655 to 10 a month. Sometimes it was 20, but it was 1097 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,240 5 to 10 a month where I would help somebody put it together 1098 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,000 or, or put it together myself or even just walk somebody through 1099 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,120 the different things and it that's gone to 0, just 0. 1100 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,520 Even people who were planning on it were just DM and me going 1101 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,480 yeah, it's completely gone. In fact, the majority of people 1102 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,440 that I saw bought 2 consoles instead. 1103 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,240 So what I've been hearing is buying 1 main and then the 1104 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,440 Switch too. Yeah, so I've heard a lot of 1105 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,080 people deciding to just get 2 consoles. 1106 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,240 Switches have got a lot of exclusives because of Nintendo. 1107 00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,920 So it's just like, I'm going to go to a Nintendo and I'm going 1108 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,920 to go to a Sony or an Xbox. A lot of people go to Xbox. 1109 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,920 People want to pretend like they don't, but a lot of people go to 1110 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,600 Xbox in some way. Certainly not anywhere near the 1111 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,480 numbers of Sony, but because of a Game Pass, if they don't have 1112 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,360 it on PC. So that so it does come up in 1113 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,760 conversations, but yeah, I'm in. It's a weird time, dude. 1114 00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,200 Because in a time frame no one we all saw happening, but if you 1115 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,040 were, if you were outside and the news of what was going on 1116 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,600 was only inside your house, you would feel like you teleported 1117 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,960 20 years into the future. And the reason why I bring that 1118 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,480 up is because in six years the console prices doubled. 1119 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,440 And that's not even the best indicator because in two years 1120 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,080 it went up by more than 1/4. So it's just like it's actually 1121 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,200 gone up more in this small amount of time than, you know, 1122 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,800 percentage wise than if you look at the entire six years. 1123 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,600 So it's just like, dude, no wonder people are not knowing. 1124 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,200 And then a lot of my friends are not doing games at all, man, I 1125 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,240 that's something I do worry about. 1126 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,800 A lot of my friends have stopped doing games at at all Johnny 1127 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,320 like at all where I noticed somewhere in that, because 1128 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,520 that's what's what do we have 8000 people are in in our land. 1129 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,680 Discord stopped all together and I was like, what are you doing 1130 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,320 there? Well, there were too many shit 1131 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,320 games on PC, like steam. You have no clue if a game's 1132 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,400 shit or if it'll run on your system or whatever. 1133 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,760 So they let me go get a drink real quick. 1134 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,160 I'll still hear you. I'll be right back. 1135 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,840 So these people were getting games and they were deciding 1136 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,800 that and they were enjoying some of them, but they were just 1137 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,680 having probably a bad feedback loop that occasionally occurred, 1138 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,160 especially with like you get multiple drivers, multiple 1139 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,480 systems. And definitely when you look at 1140 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,840 like these companies releasing versions where one does ray 1141 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,120 trace and one doesn't, that kind of stuff. 1142 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,360 And yeah, I was quite surprised. That's why I was telling Johnny 1143 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,280 I was quite surprised to see a big drop. 1144 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:27,480 And I, I, I get it. I get it. 1145 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,680 Weirdly enough, I'm very anti purchase for no reason. 1146 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,160 I, I say that weirdly enough, I guess that fits my psyche, I 1147 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,520 guess. But anyway, weird. 1148 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,080 I'll just say, weirdly enough, I'm anti purchase something for 1149 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,600 no reason. And so I don't do Humble Bundle 1150 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,360 just so that I can like have some arbitrary library. 1151 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,160 I delete my library a lot of times on steam if I know I'm not 1152 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,600 going to play the game again, I don't need to ever see it. 1153 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:57,200 I don't buy arbitrary games. However, even I've noticed that 1154 01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,080 even with those caveats, I'm still thinking harder on games, 1155 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,840 on getting a game. And it's not, weirdly enough, 1156 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:05,480 it's not always about the money I have. 1157 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:10,480 This is sounds odd. It's not the money I have, some 1158 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,240 money I'm worried I won't have that's been popping up into my 1159 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,440 head recently. And I think that might be 1160 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,840 something that revolves around every single human on earth 1161 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,880 right now, where with all of the shit going on everywhere, there 1162 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,560 really is nowhere where you can say we're not touched by some 1163 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,440 weird financial situation or some weird company situation. 1164 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:35,760 And I think that a lot of people are looking at maybe sticking 1165 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,960 with what they know and sort of waiting times out. 1166 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,800 I could be wrong on that. I'm not actually asking for that 1167 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,040 data, but I'm definitely, definitely starting to hear it 1168 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,520 more, Panero says. I think current time people who 1169 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,440 want PC might go for a ROG Ally or something. 1170 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,920 I mean they could ROG allies gone up in price too man. 1171 01:02:55,200 --> 01:03:01,920 You know, Like it's, it's gotten rough, very rough. 1172 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,840 Noorb says a lot of AAA games play just the same. 1173 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,640 And if you're not into Indies, you can get bored. 1174 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,280 I get bored from Indies. The, the number of Indies, 1175 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,560 especially when you look at the percentage of Indies, the number 1176 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,880 of Indies that copy one another is infinitesimal. 1177 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:18,880 If not like a good deal even more often because there's so 1178 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,640 many of them versus the occasional AAA's that do copy. 1179 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,200 So basically you have an occasional AAA's that do copy 1180 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,320 and feel somewhat the same and a fucking litany a buffet of 1181 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,800 bullshit from indie devs that just copy paste from one 1182 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,640 another. But you guys know me man. 1183 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:39,280 I, I just, I have, no, I have no care for the Indy dev versus AA, 1184 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,720 AA versus AAA kind of shit. Frankly. 1185 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:48,160 The every single group is 100% accountable and 100% guilty of 1186 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,480 copy paste and we see it all the time. 1187 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:56,120 So I wouldn't even say AAA, AA, Indy budget, whatever at all. 1188 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,560 When I buy a game, I don't even think of that until I'm 1189 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,680 reviewing it so somebody can understand the price point. 1190 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,200 For the most part, when I buy a game, I'm like, what does that 1191 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,960 game look like? I don't look. 1192 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,800 I don't give a fuck who makes it or who how many people make it 1193 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,240 because that's a social signal that I'm not. 1194 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,640 My job isn't to be a charity. So but yeah, man, I was telling 1195 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,840 Johnny. I was telling them that I feel 1196 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,800 like I'm, I feel like I'm worried about what I will have 1197 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,760 in the future, not what I'm paying right now. 1198 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:23,360 And I'm starting to slow down on games. 1199 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,600 Like there's a fear. I have No Fear that I can think 1200 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,560 of that something's happening. But it's because every single 1201 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,600 person every day wakes up to some new news thing that's like, 1202 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,600 seriously, we did that or seriously, somebody's doing 1203 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:36,960 that. Or seriously games have done 1204 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,160 this or seriously like nothing fits. 1205 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,520 Have you ever felt like you woke up in the morning and you are 1206 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,160 one inch to the right or left of where you should have been that 1207 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,360 day and you're bumping into shit like the day that is just 1208 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,400 uncomfortable. You're you spill a pop and 1209 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,040 you're like that doesn't make any sense. 1210 01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,280 I've been here for years. I shouldn't be doing that. 1211 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,480 I feel like we all woke up in a world where we are shifted and 1212 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,920 like the universe is 1 tick past us and we're behind it. 1213 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,920 And the reason why I say that is because even the companies that 1214 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:10,240 we people trust, like Steam are just completely shafting 1215 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,120 everybody. So it's like, OK, so what's 1216 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,040 going on? It's like, Oh no, here's the the 1217 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,600 Steam Deck or the Steam Machine or whatever absolute shit specs. 1218 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,360 So you're like, OK, that used to be a place where they would 1219 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,400 offer something that would do a little bit more for the money. 1220 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,520 And now we're not even getting a price point. 1221 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,640 And you know what I mean? Like it's like every company, 1222 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,440 it's almost like every man out for himself is true versus the 1223 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,040 worry and sarcasm that it was true 10 years ago, but now it 1224 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:43,200 seems a little bit more true and and the consoles were a place of 1225 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,480 safety for years. Get a pretty good return on your 1226 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,280 investment was what a console was day one. 1227 01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,400 Get a good return on your investment because it usually 1228 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:58,400 meant it it ran pretty well. Now buy a console and it's like 1229 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,880 I don't know like I, I I don't know and buy APC doesn't even 1230 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,240 make sense. I mean PC is literally if I 1231 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,840 would didn't have APC right now, I would never buy APC. 1232 01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,520 The amount of return I would need 'cause I'm also buying 1233 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,360 games. You don't just buy APC and all 1234 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,160 the fucking games are free unless you're a pirate. 1235 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,360 So like you're still buying games and if you save 10 bucks 1236 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,120 on APC game, let's say you spent save 10 bucks, which by the way, 1237 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,440 most people can't save like you're talking about because a 1238 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,680 lot of games are locked to one of the stores anyway. 1239 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,240 Or you're going to a shifty shady CD key place, which a lot 1240 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,320 of people don't trust. I'm not saying I don't, I've 1241 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,040 used them, but a lot of people are not going to go to ACD key 1242 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,880 place or they're just going to buy the game on the major store 1243 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,120 so they don't have to get a code from somewhere else and enter 1244 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,520 that code into here, blah, blah, blah. 1245 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,520 Sure. Or they don't go to the store 1246 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,120 because stores will have sales. They will have retail store 1247 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,200 sales. Like you can go to my Walmart 1248 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,520 and get a store and or get a game for a console that will be 1249 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,800 $510 off because they want you to go in. 1250 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,800 Or you have a Sam's Club. Maybe it's not same clubs, but 1251 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,160 you have a membership. You can go into a store and get 1252 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,120 a game, you know, for cheaper so you can get those games. 1253 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,520 But right now getting into it's hard. 1254 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,560 Like dude, if somebody said buy a ROG Ally and I'm like, man, I 1255 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,680 don't even know if I can sell somebody on a ROG Ally right 1256 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,280 now. I don't know if I'm, I'm just 1257 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:18,360 biased, but a lot of my friend group, they don't use the PC 1258 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,320 just for gaming. It's like that is their kind of 1259 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:25,360 like station. So everything is happening 1260 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,160 there. You know, they're multitasking, 1261 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,760 they're on Discord, they are watching a stream. 1262 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:37,560 All this stuff is happening and you can't do can't do that with 1263 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,680 only a console or with you know, like just your handheld. 1264 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,760 Maybe you can if you have a laptop next to it, you know what 1265 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,200 I mean? But if you want your one device 1266 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:51,520 to kind of run everything. But then right, but that's 1267 01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,000 that's getting out of games at that point. 1268 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,720 You're now like do you buy a super cheap ROG Ally to not play 1269 01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,120 games on because it can stream on Discord and you can watch a 1270 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,160 show because you can do both of those on the Xbox. 1271 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,320 It that's why I say I'm biased in that way because a lot of my 1272 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:07,840 friend group I. Don't think you're biased. 1273 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,760 They are. They're just online a lot in 1274 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,400 that sense, you know, they're like actively doing other stuff, 1275 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,200 not just playing games. And so there's an overlap there 1276 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,399 of utility that makes sense then for them. 1277 01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:25,800 But for someone who just wants to sit down and play a game, I, 1278 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,600 you know, yeah, I see those other options as probably, 1279 01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,960 probably better right now. It's getting tough too because 1280 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,720 especially now with consoles able to stream, consoles able to 1281 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,760 watch a Discord, still take some power from the system. 1282 01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:44,240 So the next systems, they're going to want to stop that power 1283 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,000 from being taken. So they'll probably put a chip 1284 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,359 in there to handle stuff. So now does now does that cost 1285 01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:51,520 even more now? Like what do you think the cost 1286 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,479 of a PlayStation 6 is $1000? Yeah. 1287 01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:00,399 We we kind of touched on that. But I mean, now that Sony has 1288 01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:03,200 gone out of their way to say that they are looking at other 1289 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,600 ways to get their consoles, I feel that if you had said it was 1290 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,960 $1000 two weeks ago, I would have been like, I don't know. 1291 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:15,200 Now, though, with Sony themselves saying we got to look 1292 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,200 at other ways to even get our console into people's hands, 1293 01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:21,840 that feels feels rough. Feels like, feels like they're 1294 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:27,240 warming us up. Yeah, yeah. 1295 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,080 I have no idea what they would. I think going higher than what 1296 01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,439 it is now. Would be is a mind killer? 1297 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,439 Yeah, yeah, I do too. I'll stick with that too, but I 1298 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,640 feel like we probably shouldn't because they're doing the 1299 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,560 signaling, you know, We're starting to get the. 1300 01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:45,560 Signals, yeah, for. Sure, something's changing. 1301 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,560 Let's see, that's a that was a good discussion. 1302 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,560 I like that Hell Divers too address some future plans and 1303 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,360 player feedback. So I don't know if this is true 1304 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,800 and I don't think you do Hell Divers as much anymore, but if 1305 01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,360 you do, you can shine some light on it. 1306 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,000 I feel like Hell Divers vacillates between very positive 1307 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:09,120 on Steam and very negative. So like 2 days, which I think in 1308 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,200 all honesty is terrible. I don't think the devs should 1309 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,440 look at that for the most part because that's like you can't 1310 01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:16,080 dev that fast. You got to, you got to give it a 1311 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,560 little bit more time. But it, it seems like there's a 1312 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:19,720 lot of up and down with that game. 1313 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,520 Do you know anything about the down right now? 1314 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,200 Do you know any? Do you know the reason why 1315 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,440 they're getting hammered on? And when you answer, I'm going 1316 01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:27,280 to let my dog out. And if you don't? 1317 01:10:27,480 --> 01:10:32,400 Right now enjoy indie hill divers No, I, yeah, I, I have 1318 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,440 enjoyed the game. I I think those games have an 1319 01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:42,800 issue with being held hostage by the player base. 1320 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:49,040 We see that with a lot of games that where they, they might make 1321 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:55,760 an adjustment to, you know, to, to a boss or to a weapon or Slay 1322 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,720 the Spire changes a card and now, you know, people are 1323 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,600 annoyed. So they're review bombing the 1324 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,200 game. And it generates a lot of 1325 01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:09,160 pressure for devs to react on a very tight loop, like very 1326 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:13,000 quickly to some of these things. And then you can have like a, an 1327 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,520 opposite reaction where like now something else is broken as a 1328 01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,200 result of that. I think that's the big problem 1329 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,400 is that they they have to show themselves to be responsive to 1330 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,280 this feedback. But at the same time, you know, 1331 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:31,800 they they can't make these changes so radically that they 1332 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:36,400 generate all kinds of secondary order problems as a result. 1333 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,080 So it's a tough line to walk. I think Hell, divers overall 1334 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:45,040 does a pretty good job that yeah, it goes up and down with 1335 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,520 the sentiment maybe, but overall people stick with the game, 1336 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,720 right? That's ultimately, I think the 1337 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,520 the testament there that like people are still, you know, 1338 01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,240 bought in. They keep playing incredibly, 1339 01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,880 after all this time that you know they're still playing it, 1340 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,480 still enjoying it. I don't know Spear he he's 1341 01:12:03,480 --> 01:12:04,760 asking why it's mostly I don't know. 1342 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,040 I just saw a news thing that it and the news thing could have 1343 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,840 been a day or two old, so it could be back to whatever, but 1344 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,120 it was just like this. They just seem. 1345 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,960 A lot of times they nerf a weapon right to balance it out, 1346 01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:20,680 and I think that's mostly the frustration people get is when 1347 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:25,840 something they like gets nerfed, which I get because if that was 1348 01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,880 your bread and butter and like what really worked for you and 1349 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:33,840 now it's not working because no fault of your own, they just 1350 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,840 decided to nerf it, That to me feels kind of bad, especially in 1351 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,280 a game like that. That's PV, right? 1352 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:46,800 Yeah, that's true. I mean, if you like a weapon, 1353 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,280 like really like a weapon and get really good at it, and now 1354 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:56,840 it's not viable anymore. I I swear to God, like with 1355 01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,440 service games, that'd suck to try to make one. 1356 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,440 Yeah. Change anything and you have 1357 01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:08,560 some dude who like you spent you know cool 50 million making the 1358 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,600 game. Some dude who spent 61 time 2 1359 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:16,040 1/2 years ago is mad because his fucking special gun doesn't do 1360 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,080 6. You know, 6.2 shots every second 1361 01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:22,760 it does 6.1 and you're like, God damn. 1362 01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,520 And by the way, I'm not even really dissing on that. 1363 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,840 But like the the gamer who does that, it's like, yeah, you 1364 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,560 bought it into the game and you're, you're why they're still 1365 01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:33,880 there. So you have you have the right, 1366 01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,400 you know, I just don't like Steam reviews, man. 1367 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,400 I just don't like them. I think they're a bad feedback 1368 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,360 loop. And I think they do way more. 1369 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,600 We're seeing at least that they're doing a lot more damage 1370 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:49,600 to like developers and how they even try to figure out what they 1371 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,600 want. But of course, what do you do? 1372 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,520 The only other thing you can do is a Discord, right? 1373 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,440 Which sort of I don't want another Discord, dude. 1374 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,440 I can't handle it. I can't handle it, man. 1375 01:14:01,480 --> 01:14:04,360 Every single company that wants me to review a game is like go 1376 01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,720 under a Discord and I'm like I am not going to thank you but no 1377 01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,160 A. Billion Discords. 1378 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,280 Oh my God, yeah. There's so many dudes. 1379 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,160 So many. Yeah. 1380 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:15,600 It's a tough time, man, to make a game. 1381 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,680 Fun time but tough. If I was going to make a game I 1382 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:24,360 would make it one that I would sell it on like H IO so barely 1383 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,520 anybody would buy it. But also, I wouldn't have to 1384 01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:30,840 worry about the fucking, you know, the Steam analytics 1385 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:35,920 bullshit and some fucking influencer like me covering the 1386 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,480 sales and the concurrent players. 1387 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,560 Just be. Like, I mean, ideally the way it 1388 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,920 works right is that you as the developer don't have to worry 1389 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,640 about that stuff. You're kind of insulated from it 1390 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:52,000 while the the more like business facing side of of the team 1391 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,920 handles all that. Yeah, I mean the publisher and 1392 01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,880 you just worry about making a great game. 1393 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,400 But we've heard from people where that's a big part of their 1394 01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,760 stress is like how they get the game out and how it's being 1395 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:10,000 received and everything. And that seeps into into the dev 1396 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:14,920 side in a big way as well. The pressure is massive nowadays 1397 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,600 for how your game is received. Yeah, and there's also the big 1398 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,160 story. You know, you'll get some guy 1399 01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,760 who's like, I want to thank everybody from the bottom of my 1400 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,520 heart. My game Epic called, you know, 1401 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:30,600 missing one sock mail sold 100,000 copies and blah, blah, 1402 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,200 blah. And it looks like shit and I 1403 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,200 want to celebrate that. It looks like shit, but I still. 1404 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:40,040 And you're like, I mean, I'm literally not yeah, I am pretty 1405 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,800 sleepy vapor. That's why I'm leaning back. 1406 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:43,840 I am. Well, I'm actually super 1407 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,040 uncomfortable with my back is fucking killing me. 1408 01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,080 But what I was going to say was I think for a lot of people, 1409 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,560 well, I don't know. For a lot of people, that 1410 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:57,680 feedback loop that's in the zeitgeist of Twitter and all 1411 01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:01,440 that kind of stuff combined with Steam telling you everyday how 1412 01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:05,080 good or bad your game is by 100,000 gamers playing it is 1413 01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:08,200 just rough. So yeah, I don't know, just 1414 01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,760 feels odd, but hopefully, yeah, you didn't know, I didn't know. 1415 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,080 But hopefully it, you know, I, I think the game is doing 1416 01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:15,600 incredibly well, so good for them. 1417 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,760 Yep. LLMAAO, that was my favorite 1418 01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,640 game. Missing one sock male. 1419 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,400 Yeah, yeah, it's missing one sock male. 1420 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,520 If anybody any of your if you're living with roommates and 1421 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,320 anybody keeps missing one sock check next to their bed because 1422 01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,800 that dude's jacking off into it. Next up, Piscatella, this is 1423 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,520 Matt Piscatella. I believe he does NPDI could be 1424 01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,440 wrong on that, but he's one of the analysts who covers games. 1425 01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:45,520 He said PS five and his biggest sales week of 2026 after a price 1426 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,960 increase announcement followed by the lowest weeks afterwards, 1427 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,680 suggesting demand was pulled forward. 1428 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,640 No shit, Sherlock. No, I'm I'm by the way, I'm 1429 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,040 totally not teasing him. He literally I bet you would 1430 01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,440 have said that that was going to happen. 1431 01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:02,200 But basically what it did was it pulled all the people who are 1432 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:06,200 going to purchase it out of the woodwork and then it and then it 1433 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:12,080 went to where sort of it's true request level is, which is 1434 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,280 insanely low. And I think that makes sense 1435 01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,200 with them not releasing anything that's massive right now, It 1436 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:18,800 makes sense that it wouldn't be super high. 1437 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:23,080 FOMO's a thing, you know FOMO's a thing, right? 1438 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,760 By the way, Speaking of FOMO, if you join our Patreon now and you 1439 01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,760 leap into the Patreon, there's a special, there's a special deal 1440 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,160 on the $5 Discord, which it cost you $5. 1441 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,720 Amazing, incredible deal right there. 1442 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,040 Incredible deal you you can run deals. 1443 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,560 But only now, by the way. But only right now is your last 1444 01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,760 chance. And then the $5 deal to get into 1445 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,840 Discord will go to $10 and it won't have Discord. 1446 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,080 I'm just joking. I don't know. 1447 01:17:50,440 --> 01:17:52,200 But I, I have. Yeah, those do. 1448 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,240 I mean, you know, sales do work. Like, yeah, for sure, for sure 1449 01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,520 sales work. Yeah, so like raising the price 1450 01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,120 basically less people want to buy PS-5 now. 1451 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,240 After, Yeah, because. Yeah, because the purchase went 1452 01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:07,160 forward, everybody basically panicked. 1453 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,680 Makes total sense. You know, that's how you do. 1454 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,320 That, yeah, some people were saying we might see the opposite 1455 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:18,080 where because like the price is going up, we might see a lot of 1456 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:24,680 people wanting to get it now. Yeah, but yeah. 1457 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:35,000 OK, give me one second. OK, all of my devices, There we 1458 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,080 go. It's back. 1459 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,680 My mouse, my keyboard, everything stopped working. 1460 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,880 And I was sitting here going, oh, oh, what's going to happen? 1461 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,040 Yeah. Classic. 1462 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:45,920 Yeah, hopefully people get what they want. 1463 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,280 Hopefully people get to play the games that they want and stuff 1464 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:49,840 like that. It just, it does suck. 1465 01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:55,600 It it sucks, but it's expected. I mean, maybe ultimately this 1466 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,960 will result in, you know, more scientists going out there and, 1467 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,280 you know, investigating rocket technology because gaming's too 1468 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,960 expensive and they put all of that extra energy into something 1469 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,920 vital and worthwhile. Do I think that'll happen? 1470 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:13,160 No, I do not. But it could, I think the random 1471 01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:16,680 purchase everything type of gamer, it might be nice to slow 1472 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,720 them down a little bit so that you didn't have the arbitrary, 1473 01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,040 here's a high sales number of a game, but nobody plays it kind 1474 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,640 of thing that we saw for so many years. 1475 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,760 Might be might be nice to sort of see a true replication of 1476 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,960 desire versus what you get because dude, I know so many. 1477 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,320 People who more signal. Yeah, more signal versus the 1478 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,360 FOMO. Just like, oh, this new game's 1479 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,040 coming out, I need to get it. And then two days later, are you 1480 01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:39,400 playing it? Oh no, I'm going to turn it on. 1481 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,320 It's like, damn, seriously, like at all. 1482 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,480 So we'll have to see what else we got for questions in 1483 01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:53,880 Discordian. All right, let's see this one 1484 01:19:54,440 --> 01:19:57,240 from Pillowcase. What game are you most looking 1485 01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:01,600 forward to for May? And do you think the Lego Batman 1486 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:05,160 title will do well seeing how it's been a while since the last 1487 01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,120 decent Batman title? Sorry, I'm stretching my back. 1488 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,040 Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, no, no worries. 1489 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:12,400 Take your time. God, it's. 1490 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,920 Ramped up so bad. I'll have a crack at it first 1491 01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:21,080 while you come back. Yeah, I think it will do well. 1492 01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,760 I think Lego, by the way, is on the rise. 1493 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:28,040 Just just Lego itself, because they've gone, we talked about in 1494 01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:32,880 the past how they've, they've made a really smart PR shift in 1495 01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:37,680 the last few years going away from marketed for kids to 1496 01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:42,880 marketed for adults. Sounds weird but the the focus 1497 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:47,880 on IP Lego sets has been massive for them because now it's all 1498 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,560 like Star Wars, you know? IP stuff. 1499 01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:55,800 Yeah, all IPS, the Pokémon, you know, big IP stuff and it sells 1500 01:20:55,880 --> 01:21:00,520 incredible for adults and adults are much more interested now in 1501 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:05,080 Lego and kids too, by the way. It kind of works for for both 1502 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,640 groups as well. So I think Lego is on the rise 1503 01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,760 for interest. And the title itself looks more 1504 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,200 interesting, right? I mean, they got some real 1505 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,680 gameplay in there this time, that look that actually looks 1506 01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,400 good. No offense to the other games, 1507 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,040 but they were very surface level. 1508 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,960 So it's cool to see. I think it will do really well. 1509 01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,080 And then what game are you most looking forward to? 1510 01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,200 Did you pull your back by the way? 1511 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,360 You. Hurt yourself, I think. 1512 01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:37,760 I, I think I have a chip in my back, not a chip on my shoulder. 1513 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,760 I think I've something's been creaking around back there for a 1514 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,720 while now. A couple days ago during 1515 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,360 practice, I, I moved and I heard a weird sound and I was like, 1516 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,760 well, that's fucking odd. And it feels like something's 1517 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,640 there. And then, yeah, I cramped up 1518 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,480 because I was sitting weird. You're never, you know, isn't it 1519 01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:56,520 funny that bad posture feels so fucking good, dude, dude, 1520 01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,560 somebody will say so I so when we're here normally I try to sit 1521 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,080 like this. So you know, you're doing your 1522 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,880 prim and proper, you know, get your book on the top of your 1523 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,960 head like a nice English royalty, like a nice woman. 1524 01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:11,000 And then when you guys go away and when I sit to play games, 1525 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,680 I'll be like, and I feel way better. 1526 01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,680 I feel way better. Yeah. 1527 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,320 Your back is like, oh, thank, thank Christ. 1528 01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,480 And I'm like, listen, I spent a lot of time on podcasts. 1529 01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:22,960 So if there's anybody who is in a good posture for a lot of a 1530 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,760 lot of time, it is actually me. I'm actually in a good. 1531 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:27,240 And dude, we're doing martial arts. 1532 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:28,360 You in a pretty good posture there. 1533 01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:29,760 Got to make sure your back is strong. 1534 01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,480 But fuck, man. Yeah, I fucked it up. 1535 01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:37,680 I fucked it up bad, man. It's giving me a migraine 1536 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,120 talking about Lego, though, real quick. 1537 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,400 This new game, yeah, it's it's doing more than the other ones. 1538 01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:47,280 I think there's been ones like City Town, City City that had 1539 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,960 some extra stuff, but I think Horizons didn't hit very many 1540 01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:51,960 people. I don't think Horizons like sort 1541 01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,640 of seem to take off so. Yeah, not at all. 1542 01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:01,760 It's also kind of a weird fit. I I don't think the the Horizon 1543 01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,600 theme in general kind of fit with Lego, oddly enough. 1544 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,760 Star Wars seems to fit really well. 1545 01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:09,520 Yeah, for sure. A lot of the other stuff they're 1546 01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,440 doing. Flash Gordon had fit, Pirates of 1547 01:23:12,440 --> 01:23:14,440 Caribbeans fit. I think they've got one or two 1548 01:23:14,440 --> 01:23:16,240 of those, right? Don't they have one or two 1549 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,240 Pirates of the Caribbean, Caribbean, Caribbean? 1550 01:23:18,440 --> 01:23:19,440 Depends where you're from. Yeah. 1551 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,640 When you were growing up, did you say Caribbean or Caribbean? 1552 01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:27,320 None, because I grew up in Brazil. 1553 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,200 So we did. We spoke Portuguese. 1554 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:29,720 What? What is it? 1555 01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,880 What's it called in? Portuguese what? 1556 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:34,720 That's how we would say caribbee. 1557 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,840 Caribbee instead of Caribbean. Yeah, so Pirates of the 1558 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,560 Caribbean, Caribbee. No, it wouldn't be pirates 1559 01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,080 either. What's the word? 1560 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,400 Pirates. Piratas. 1561 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,680 Piratas do Caribbee. Do Caribbee Piratas do 1562 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,200 Caribbean? Nice, yeah. 1563 01:23:50,440 --> 01:23:51,640 Piratas do Caribbean. Yeah. 1564 01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,960 I still to this day, I don't know if I'm supposed to say 1565 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:58,400 Caribbean or Caribbean. I kind of, Oh yeah, just flow 1566 01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,520 with it. Yeah, Yeah, it's all good. 1567 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:04,560 Caribbean, Caribbean Cruise Lines, Pirates of the Caribbean. 1568 01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,880 I don't know why. That's how it. 1569 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:07,840 Works. That sounds better. 1570 01:24:11,480 --> 01:24:14,040 Yeah, somebody with a really long name with just fucking 1571 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:18,640 words says Speaking of, I can't even read that username. 1572 01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,320 Revola Krevolikin. That sounds like I was speaking, 1573 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,240 Simlish says. Speaking of pirates, how about 1574 01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,000 the rumored Frumsaft pirate game? 1575 01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:31,600 Is that a thing? I haven't heard those rumors, 1576 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:36,200 man. There's a little leak or 1577 01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,000 something the day before and then something from a like a 1578 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,400 notorious leaker, the notorious leaker known as, you know, DOJI 1579 01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,240 have no fucking clue. But yeah, there was there was 1580 01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,440 some there was a couple little things that popped out, but 1581 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,880 yeah, I couldn't care less. Really not a big frum soft look 1582 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,880 forward to fan. I need to be right there. 1583 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,800 I need to have them get all of the bullshit the the fake fandom 1584 01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,160 stuff out. I need to see. 1585 01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,080 I need to be like 2 weeks prior to the game. 1586 01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:02,560 Yeah, let's see. Yeah, let's see what you got 1587 01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,720 now. Like when, when people are like, 1588 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,040 you know, a little quieter. I mean, they're still ramped up, 1589 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:08,240 but it's like none of that other stuff. 1590 01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,680 It's like, what do we, what have we got right now? 1591 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:14,240 And I then I'll, I'll look at it like I did with Elden Ring. 1592 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:18,760 So let's see, release the Kraken. 1593 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,600 But seriously, Reva Cleva Cleva Corinne. 1594 01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:26,840 What the fuck is that username man? 1595 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,160 What's it from? Yeah, way too much. 1596 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:36,200 Too many consonants in there. Wait a minute, Relieve relieves 1597 01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:39,320 the Kraken. Release the Kraken but with AV. 1598 01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:42,920 There you go. Yeah, we, we. 1599 01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:47,840 Got it is release the Kraken with AV Who does you mastered 1600 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,880 you got us. I would never I don't even know 1601 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:53,360 how to figure that out. I think it's because Kraken 1602 01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:58,320 pirates blah blah blah but. Kraken with AV Wow. 1603 01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,240 Release VE the Kraken VE is still. 1604 01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:04,760 Got us a little. XM So you got us. 1605 01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:05,800 Yeah. Well played, Juice. 1606 01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:07,160 Well played. I mean, damn. 1607 01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:08,840 All right. What else do we got? 1608 01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:10,520 Anything. Anything cool? 1609 01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:19,200 Most look forward to game in May Any anyone standing out right 1610 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,640 now? I mean, we've said we've, dude, 1611 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,640 my patience is at a zero. Can you tell I'm tired? 1612 01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,560 My back hurts. What comes to mind? 1613 01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,280 It doesn't have to be the top. 50th fucking time. 1614 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:32,160 What game? OK. 1615 01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:36,360 But like top of mind, if I go like top of mind for May, what 1616 01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:37,920 do you got? Aren't we in May right now? 1617 01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,480 Yeah. That's what I thought, OK, Just 1618 01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:42,760 making sure I wasn't fucking having a stroke. 1619 01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:47,440 Yeah. I mean, Soros came out and I 1620 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,000 that was like. That could be it. 1621 01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:53,520 Yeah, I mean, fuck, I don't know, man. 1622 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,080 Come on, come on. Quit asking that question, man. 1623 01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,160 We need to just be like, you can't ask it. 1624 01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,920 We need to like, have a requirement on that 'cause that 1625 01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,640 I remember it would piss off Abzi so much 'cause they would 1626 01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,400 ask him and he, he was given the same answer each time. 1627 01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,680 And it was like 6 months in a row and people still hadn't 1628 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,040 picked up on it. Jet Black Ninja, $50 Super jet. 1629 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:13,000 Happy Friday, gang. What's up, Sir? 1630 01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,800 Hope you're doing well. Hope you're getting some Diablo 1631 01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,360 Diablo in. A lot of people do in Diablo 1632 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:19,920 four, man. Holy shit. 1633 01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,680 Hang on, I'm going to go get a a fucking aspirin real quick. 1634 01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:23,160 I'll be. Right back. 1635 01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:24,960 Yeah, go for it. Continue talking, I can hear 1636 01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,680 you. All good. 1637 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,400 I'll hit the next question while you come back. 1638 01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,280 Unless. It's unless it's what game we're 1639 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,080 looking forward to. It is not OK, It's not somebody 1640 01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,600 OK, all good. It's not. 1641 01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:45,560 It's this one from level 52. Make making Shin boom Pandora 1642 01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,800 box has been opened and mythological and supernatural 1643 01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:53,080 creatures now inhabit the earth. What creature do you think you 1644 01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,760 have a decent enough chance at dispatching, and what do you 1645 01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,720 pray you'll never run into? Centaurs I could take out. 1646 01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,240 Centaurs I could take out easy. Nah, yeah. 1647 01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,840 Get out of here. No, a Centaur I can take out 1648 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:08,280 easy. Centaurs aren't really built the 1649 01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,160 best man. They're they too much top weight 1650 01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,960 because like when you look at a horse, it's not big heads, but 1651 01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,080 when you look at their bodies, it's actually a pretty spindly 1652 01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,000 head on the end of that giant barrel body. 1653 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,320 But if you get a Centaur and you get a huge human body, that's 1654 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,240 some way in. Proportion plan of attack. 1655 01:28:22,480 --> 01:28:23,840 Like do you have a weapon? Like what? 1656 01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:26,160 What are you doing? Have you ever seen in the Street 1657 01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,080 Fighter games or whatever where a person leaps forward with 1658 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,240 their fists out and does like A twist and punches? 1659 01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,320 I would do that up. It's anus most likely because I 1660 01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,680 can pull that move off in real life life without without 1661 01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,320 hesitation. Yeah, I'm always able to do 1662 01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:39,920 that. Like that's that's a move that 1663 01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,400 that's my go to move. Whenever we're sparring, I just 1664 01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,040 leap up in the air and I spin. I do. 1665 01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:49,400 I, I, I think I could take on a Pikachu, I think just like a big 1666 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:56,120 rock and like just toss it. I I think I can pull that up OK, 1667 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,080 but what's the scariest in your mind? 1668 01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:59,720 Like you're opening Pandora's box. 1669 01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,880 What is the scariest thing that could come out? 1670 01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:05,000 The Gorgon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably, yeah 1671 01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,320 if. It's maybe a mind flayer for me. 1672 01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:08,640 I always have that image. Are we? 1673 01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:10,960 Oh, we're not talking. You know, I thought when he said 1674 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,800 Pandora's box, I thought he meant our history and our myths. 1675 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:15,360 But we're talking like. D. 1676 01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:19,600 And D&D and everything. Yeah. 1677 01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,840 Yeah, that's pretty scary. Yeah, Mind Flayer's pretty 1678 01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:25,360 scary. Yeah, yeah. 1679 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:29,280 Wow. Man, my stomach. 1680 01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,240 I'm not usually into Lego games, but this one looks way deeper 1681 01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,040 and hits on all the beloved parts of Batman. 1682 01:29:38,480 --> 01:29:42,840 Yeah, Batman seems to be sort of attracting people's attention in 1683 01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,400 a good way. Yeah, a bit of pop culture too, 1684 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:46,680 right? Because they're referencing 1685 01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:50,520 constantly stuff of the games and kind of, yeah, breaking the 1686 01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:54,560 4th wall a little bit. What else do you got? 1687 01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:56,080 Anything. What do you have? 1688 01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:59,600 Yeah, this one from Get Tricky. I have been. 1689 01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,480 Sounds like a a Daft Punk song, yeah. 1690 01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:06,320 A little bit. Like that? 1691 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,600 Or an old N64 skateboarding game. 1692 01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:12,280 Yes, tricky. Yeah, yeah. 1693 01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,320 That get tricky what you say. What was the? 1694 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:18,080 First, it says I have been personally enjoying Marathon, 1695 01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,640 but any thoughts on the financial loss from Sony after 1696 01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,960 they bought the bungee? Yeah, funny enough, we did kind 1697 01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,720 of touch on that. Yeah, I think we got to that 1698 01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,000 one. I mean, what about marathon? 1699 01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,560 Do you view it as something that's going to last when you 1700 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:42,210 look like next year and beyond? Would you put your money on 1701 01:30:42,210 --> 01:30:43,730 people are still playing Marathon I? 1702 01:30:46,450 --> 01:30:50,450 Mean dude people still play DC universe I just don't know 1703 01:30:50,450 --> 01:30:55,450 what's still playing and valid successful long term game mean. 1704 01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,920 But but I think that is a successful. 1705 01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:00,680 Game. No, no. 1706 01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:02,960 We talked about this last week, a little week before, prior a 1707 01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:04,720 little bit. If there's a difference between 1708 01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:10,640 800 people total playing your game and how many devs you can 1709 01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,600 keep staffed. Well, that's true, right? 1710 01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,520 And like Bungie, Bungie atypical numbers. 1711 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,360 Can you sustain that big of an operation? 1712 01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:25,360 Yeah, I would say looking at it, seeing what's in it, seeing the 1713 01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:31,000 people I've seen play it and being brutally honest with no 1714 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:33,960 positive or negative towards it, like it's just, it is what it 1715 01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,000 is. I would say that game is pretty 1716 01:31:36,440 --> 01:31:43,680 close to a failure when you look at like continued not its sales, 1717 01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,640 even though those weren't great, but it's it's it's chance to be 1718 01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:51,360 Bungie's next thing. How about that Marathon doesn't 1719 01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,680 appear by any way, shape or form. 1720 01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:59,080 Sales, talk, game players, whatever to be Bungie's next 1721 01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:00,280 thing. And I think it would have been 1722 01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:04,320 nice if it was It'd be nice to not be talking about Bungie next 1723 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,640 year, man, It'd be really nice. It'd be really nice because 1724 01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:09,920 there's few things in the world that is less interesting than 1725 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,000 Bungie. And there's few things in the 1726 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,680 world that like a, a feel like they should fix themselves but 1727 01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:20,680 don't aren't able to do it. So we keep, since I started the 1728 01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:25,760 podcast, I feel like Bungie has been on every single month. 1729 01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:30,480 There's been something about Bungie, and it almost was never 1730 01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,160 Halo because it was. After that, it's almost always 1731 01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,160 been bad stuff. I mean, originally it was about 1732 01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:40,560 Destiny doing really well, but then it started, you know, it's 1733 01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,000 like once they got success, they started having issues pretty 1734 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:44,240 quickly. And then the big cut. 1735 01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:46,880 Remember that where they cut story out, that sort of started 1736 01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,320 the big arc, the big slide of success for them. 1737 01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:55,640 Yeah, I almost feel like they might be pulled into other teams 1738 01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:59,240 if Marathon doesn't really pan out. 1739 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,960 You know, instead of having a next big project, they might 1740 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:07,840 kind of, yeah, integrate into other stuff. 1741 01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:14,400 Agreed, I'm going to play mixtape on game pass even though 1742 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,720 reviews are strong. Yeah. 1743 01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:19,240 What was mixtape? 3 hours? 1744 01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:20,280 3 or 4 hours? That's great. 1745 01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:22,600 I don't know what the cost is, but I still think that's. 1746 01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:23,440 Right for that. Kind of game. 1747 01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:25,360 No, no, no, that's not what I was saying, sorry. 1748 01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:27,520 I was saying that's great that it's a different style of length 1749 01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,040 because we get a lot of games that are like, oh, this game is 1750 01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,440 we don't get many three unless it's a episodic. 1751 01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:36,240 So to see one that's just like, hey, here's a 3 or 4 hour game 1752 01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,360 and we hope you like it at a blank price. 1753 01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:43,440 I sort of dig that, you know, even if it turns out to be a 1754 01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:46,400 failure, you now know what a failure in that area looks like. 1755 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,240 If you're a game dev, you can aim, you know, aim away from it 1756 01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,120 next time. But yeah, and those are the good 1757 01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:55,520 Game Pass games as well. You can jump into, even if you 1758 01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:59,400 don't know whether it's for you. You can have a crack. 1759 01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:03,080 What? Else have we got? 1760 01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:08,000 Well, funny enough, Salem here was saying excited to play 1761 01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:09,960 mixtape. Do you have a favorite game 1762 01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:15,520 soundtrack, licensed or not? We have talked about this, but 1763 01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,000 is there like a top of mind, like maybe something you've been 1764 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:26,600 listening to recently, any like game OS, TS you've been banging 1765 01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:40,040 out? No, actually, no. 1766 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,200 There hasn't even been. Huh? 1767 01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:45,240 There hasn't. Yeah. 1768 01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,240 No, there hasn't even been something that I've been. 1769 01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:50,600 No, no, not even in a bad way. It's just for whatever reason, 1770 01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,080 my music tastes aren't on that right now either. 1771 01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,320 Yeah. I've been listening to a lot of 1772 01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:01,440 synth wave edits of OS DS. So you have like. 1773 01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,360 OS DS. Like, you know, coronal trigger 1774 01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:09,000 but synth wave or like Final Fantasy but cyberpunk, this type 1775 01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,720 of stuff. I really enjoyed those because 1776 01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:16,760 they're familiar but they got a cool spin and synth wave I think 1777 01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:21,680 is great for focusing on stuff doesn't really distract. 1778 01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:26,840 But I've also been listening to the Stellar Blade Osta lot for 1779 01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:30,840 reading because it's quite, it's not like they're not really 1780 01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:34,120 speaking words a lot of the time, weirdly, they're kind of 1781 01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:37,560 like mumbling stuff and it's so great because then my brain is 1782 01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:41,760 not trying to process words, but it's super, super, that super 1783 01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:45,400 melodic, super musical. There's like some jazzy stuff in 1784 01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,120 there. I love the vibe and to kind of 1785 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:50,120 sit back and read a bit with that. 1786 01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:54,840 It's been, it's been awesome. Anything else? 1787 01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,280 No, that's been it really recently. 1788 01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,760 What else? Do you have Any cool news? 1789 01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,640 Any Yeah, we talked about the switch to price hike, right? 1790 01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:08,760 That's going to be like September. 1791 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:18,960 Yeah, I saw, I saw a post about a Crimson Desert dev explaining 1792 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,960 how they're able to update the game so fast. 1793 01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:30,200 I don't know if you saw this, the kind of the summary of it 1794 01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:36,120 was because the game had the bones of an MMO and the team is 1795 01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:42,560 so used to developing for Mmos. They are kind of uniquely 1796 01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,440 prepared to respond very quickly to feedback. 1797 01:36:46,440 --> 01:36:49,520 And part of the reason they didn't have a road map was 1798 01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:53,200 because they wanted to be reactive to what people were 1799 01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,640 requesting and this type of stuff. 1800 01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:02,360 I wanted to hear your take because we thought for sure they 1801 01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:07,720 had some stuff prepared on what they expected to be feedback 1802 01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:11,560 from people or might be stuff that, you know, people would 1803 01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:16,680 request. It does seem like they were very 1804 01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:21,040 fast with some of these. Do you does does this kind of 1805 01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:26,520 pass the sniff test for you? Well, they are talking about 1806 01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,600 public road map. They definitely had stuff 1807 01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,320 planned for afterwards because we literally saw it. 1808 01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:36,720 So I can't speak for but I mean what they're it sounds like what 1809 01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:38,960 they're talking about is like we're going to do a suit armor 1810 01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:40,480 on Monday, we're going to do blah, blah, blah. 1811 01:37:40,480 --> 01:37:43,080 That wasn't there. But they definitely were talking 1812 01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,680 about patches and stuff they were planning, and many of them 1813 01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:47,920 were our complaints during the review. 1814 01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:52,400 But yeah, that's the exact same thing I said in the, I can't 1815 01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:55,440 remember when it was, but the the podcast after the game came 1816 01:37:55,440 --> 01:37:57,040 out was that, yeah, they're MMO devs. 1817 01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:00,600 They're accustomed to doing patches in a particular way and 1818 01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,480 the game isn't contained. One of the nice things about 1819 01:38:03,480 --> 01:38:05,960 Crimson Desert is it's not like you're in a small spot and every 1820 01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:07,800 single system feeds into every other system. 1821 01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:10,520 It's super difficult to do. They've already it, it really is 1822 01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:13,800 Black Desert Times 2 with some of their own stuff in there. 1823 01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:18,680 So if they want to double the health from food, it may just be 1824 01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,120 an easier thing for them to double the health for food. 1825 01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:23,920 So. Yeah, yeah, there's stamina for 1826 01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,960 the jump. You know these quick fixes. 1827 01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,000 That's weird that a dev would say that, because that doesn't 1828 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:35,520 even sound like a dev's language like that doesn't are they said 1829 01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,440 a dev said that because that doesn't even sound like the 1830 01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:39,560 words a dev would use. That sounds like a words the 1831 01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,120 publisher would use because a dev wouldn't. 1832 01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:47,400 He, he said quote, we're not, we're not onerous about if an 1833 01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,800 idea didn't come from us, then it can't be in the game. 1834 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,120 I think that's some still quoting him. 1835 01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,080 I think that's something that other companies are too ego 1836 01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:00,200 driven a lot of the time to be able to accept other people's 1837 01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,800 ideas. It's almost Silicon Valley 1838 01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,320 esque. A good idea can come from any. 1839 01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:07,160 Now that doesn't sound like a dev would have said that. 1840 01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:12,600 That sounds like a publisher or. Who said like PR? 1841 01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:14,320 Yeah. Do they have the person? 1842 01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:15,920 Do they have the dev's name? Who said that? 1843 01:39:16,480 --> 01:39:17,600 That doesn't even sound like what? 1844 01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:21,360 A dev name is power. Try to dig up. 1845 01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:27,880 Powers. No will powers just power 1846 01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:30,400 singular. Right willpowers. 1847 01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,720 No, it is. No, you're right, it is PR. 1848 01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,560 Sorry, it's PR. Prolibis PR and Marketing 1849 01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:39,200 Director Willpowers. OK, you, you are right. 1850 01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:42,360 OK man, dude, I'm telling you I have a sniff test for who says 1851 01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:43,960 what. And I was, I'm sorry, no. 1852 01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,200 Chance that the dev. Said that this is an IGN article 1853 01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:49,560 by the way. It's very deceiving. 1854 01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:54,240 The title literally says Crimson Desert dev explains how it's 1855 01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:59,880 able to update the game so fast and then in the in the body. 1856 01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:05,160 It's not a dev, it's literally the PR marketing director. 1857 01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,200 PR or not devs. They got me, they got me. 1858 01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:11,480 I mean, unless we want to say that any dev who randomly tweets 1859 01:40:11,480 --> 01:40:14,560 their Twitter can then just say they're also PR and you could 1860 01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:17,240 say that technically. Or or any member of the team 1861 01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:19,720 tangentially. You could say that you wouldn't. 1862 01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:22,440 Yeah, yeah, every developer I've talked to definitely wouldn't 1863 01:40:22,440 --> 01:40:25,760 say that PR was dev. That wouldn't even make logistic 1864 01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:27,920 sense. It that's more of an inclusion 1865 01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:29,480 thing to make everybody feel hunky Dory. 1866 01:40:29,480 --> 01:40:32,200 But you wouldn't want APR person like answering dev questions 1867 01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:35,840 that were in depth because and by the way, it would be the same 1868 01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:40,280 as me if I was trying to answer questions of my old job that I 1869 01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:42,720 may have a certain amount of data about the job. 1870 01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:45,960 But when you start getting into idiosyncrasies of game 1871 01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:49,120 development, like, you know, how do you guys handle trash 1872 01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:51,720 collection? Now, if your PR person can can 1873 01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:54,880 answer that off the cuff or answer like 50, give me 50 1874 01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:56,640 questions. If that person can handle those 1875 01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:58,120 50 questions, we're in pretty good shape. 1876 01:40:58,120 --> 01:40:59,960 But yeah, no, that sounds good PR. 1877 01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,960 Like I said, I have a really good sniff test for. 1878 01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,280 Yeah, good catch there. Yeah, you're instantly. 1879 01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,080 New thing that is not that does not sound like what a dev would 1880 01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:09,800 say. There's certain things that a 1881 01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:14,480 dev would and and there yeah, there's certain things that a 1882 01:41:14,480 --> 01:41:16,720 dev would say. Also a Korean dev dropper 1883 01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:20,680 dropping onerous is the equivalent of me dropping a 1884 01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:25,160 super in depth mythical name of a Korean deity while translated 1885 01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:28,400 into Korean from English. There's like, the moment you 1886 01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:32,800 hear it, you're just like, what? Yeah, good catch. 1887 01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,240 You've talked to enough devs to know. 1888 01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:41,120 Yeah, going to get mixtape a go a bunch of people talking about 1889 01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:42,680 that. What else do we got? 1890 01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:44,840 Oh, by the way, that was about the patch. 1891 01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:46,320 No, it's good. I'm glad I'm glad they're 1892 01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,240 continuing to patch That's that's what should happen. 1893 01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:50,960 That was my last word was like I'm just glad that they're 1894 01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:53,640 they're they are putting stuff in the game Seems like they've 1895 01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,880 done a good job. People are happy and he's done a 1896 01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:57,600 good job. I've only dealt with him a 1897 01:41:57,680 --> 01:41:58,800 couple times. Super nice guy. 1898 01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:02,120 He's done a good job dealing with the the feedback because 1899 01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:04,200 there was negative feedback the first couple days with some 1900 01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:05,800 difficulties, you know, stuff like that. 1901 01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:07,800 They've done a good job. It's been good. 1902 01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:12,320 Yeah, it's, and my hope is I don't really want to see any 1903 01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:15,280 more games like that. Weirdly enough, I liked it. 1904 01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,680 What I mean by that is I don't want to see that become its own 1905 01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,960 genre. Like, what'd you call it? 1906 01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:22,360 Sprawl. Sprawl Questing, sprawl 1907 01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:26,600 questing, mini Maxine boss runish, you know, blah blah 1908 01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,760 blah. I don't want to see that, but it 1909 01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:33,280 it gives developers another cue towards what they want to make, 1910 01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:34,880 how they want their game to feel. 1911 01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:39,200 And the big exploration run for hours feel is unique to that 1912 01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:43,400 game and they did a great job. Yeah, I'll probably never play 1913 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,640 it again. And that, I know that sounds 1914 01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:49,440 harsh, but I'm OK with that. You know, I'm embracing the 1915 01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:53,600 opposite of FOMO. I'm like the eager to miss out. 1916 01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:56,000 Yeah, yeah, I'll never play it again. 1917 01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:58,440 Great time. I did it or pretty good time. 1918 01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:00,440 But a lot of games I don't return to. 1919 01:43:00,440 --> 01:43:01,960 It really has nothing to do with Crimson Desert. 1920 01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:04,200 I mean, there's a ton of games that I'm like, I really enjoyed 1921 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:05,040 that. Would I return to it? 1922 01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:08,600 No, no. Yeah, like, it's just like food, 1923 01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:12,000 you know, you once you had a burrito, do you need to have 1924 01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:15,440 another one? Maybe no, but no. 1925 01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,440 Just no. What did I tell you that one day 1926 01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:22,000 we were talking when I said that would be like having three 1927 01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,360 favorite Chinese food? Restaurants. 1928 01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:25,920 Like why? What? 1929 01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:27,480 What does that even mean? What? 1930 01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:30,000 Is that it? Doesn't mean you need a second, 1931 01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:31,760 yeah. It's like, great. 1932 01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:35,160 Chinese dress, Yeah. What? 1933 01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:36,720 What else we got? Good. 1934 01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:43,960 We covered that. This survey was talking about 1935 01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:48,960 people leaving the dev industry. So developers wanting to leave 1936 01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:53,040 the dev industry due to all the mass layoffs that have happened. 1937 01:43:53,040 --> 01:43:58,240 So what they did is they collected data from 1000 video 1938 01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:03,160 game professionals, well like industry professionals, video 1939 01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:08,360 game industry and they they were asking about salary satisfaction 1940 01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:11,520 and stuff like that. And apparently 44% of the 1941 01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:15,840 respondents, we're looking to leave the the games industry 1942 01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:20,640 because of the layoffs. Yeah, I don't think it's even. 1943 01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,240 Just the layoffs. It's everything combined, 1944 01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:27,000 negativity, layoffs, game. You know how the business is 1945 01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:30,800 done. Like investment into games, 1946 01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,440 everything. Yeah, we always say, you know, 1947 01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:39,640 tough industry to get into, to continue to be in and to, to 1948 01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:42,760 want a, a future in all of those. 1949 01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:48,440 Yeah, 44%, though I, I know it's not a big number like 1000 1950 01:44:48,440 --> 01:44:51,880 people, you could kind of, you know, get a lot of variance in 1951 01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:58,000 there, but I feel like 44 is significant enough that, you 1952 01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:04,800 know, it's a big signal. Yeah, if there were 44 given out 1953 01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:08,040 like so how you handle a study normally, so you would have to 1954 01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:11,080 make sure there was no pre filters on the study of 1000 1955 01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:12,720 people, meaning you couldn't do it in an event. 1956 01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:14,840 So you couldn't go to GDC and do it. 1957 01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,760 You you could, but you would have to understand that the 1958 01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:22,000 people there are going to be people who would be invited 1959 01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:25,040 there, which means they have to be on a list in a certain tier 1960 01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:26,800 or they would have to know about being there. 1961 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:28,400 So. Selecting already. 1962 01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,520 Yeah, if you go to a Chinese food place and you say how's the 1963 01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:33,800 chicken, it's going to be really fucking weird. 1964 01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,280 People love chicken. They're going like. 1965 01:45:36,440 --> 01:45:38,720 Yeah, yeah. So you get, so you have to you 1966 01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:40,240 have to know where your filter's coming from. 1967 01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:45,280 But if it's 1000, who let's say showed up, you know, and and a 1968 01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:48,160 developer can still be a dev prior to releasing a game, but 1969 01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:51,160 they'll be on no data anywhere. You won't see their names or 1970 01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:52,360 anything because they haven't done it. 1971 01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,080 So I don't know where these came from, but I still think 40 is 1972 01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:58,600 probably accurate. It it definitely feels accurate 1973 01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:02,480 to what I'm hearing. And what's weird is what's what 1974 01:46:02,480 --> 01:46:05,160 is crazier is it's not the bigger companies I'm hearing 1975 01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:07,480 that from. It's actually a lot of the 1976 01:46:07,480 --> 01:46:12,880 people in the in the space that you would say where money is 1977 01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:17,760 required via investment, personal money that's required 1978 01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:23,720 or yeah, those are the two that I'm definitely hearing couple 1979 01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:26,600 couple dozen indie devs that I know have stopped making their 1980 01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:29,320 game recently. Games, games. 1981 01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:30,680 Yeah. Well, they called Indy. 1982 01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:32,960 They weren't we that that was how I got to know him because 1983 01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:38,200 they were they were like coming at me here for me saying like 1984 01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:40,080 what Indy is. And then once I talk to them 1985 01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,040 like, oh, no, actually now I understand where you're coming 1986 01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:44,080 from, but it doesn't matter anyway because we're leaving. 1987 01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:46,320 And they just, they all they evaporated. 1988 01:46:46,440 --> 01:46:48,360 They were just couldn't handle it. 1989 01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:51,480 Nothing against them, by the way, Like they were working 1990 01:46:51,480 --> 01:46:53,680 hard. It's just getting a game made, 1991 01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:56,120 man. It's like, remember when for 1992 01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:58,320 years now it's a little easier, but for years there were no 1993 01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,560 independent movies. There's still some issue making 1994 01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:04,080 them, but you've still got some companies, companies that are 1995 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:07,480 independent, but you have a, you have sort of a, a way, but it's 1996 01:47:07,480 --> 01:47:10,000 nowhere near what it used to be where an independent movie was 1997 01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,920 possible pretty easily. And now that's gone, you know, 1998 01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:15,640 there's just no, not enough money to get over the hump of 1999 01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:19,280 investment for Indy. Remember when you used to be 2000 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,480 able to start a YouTube channel and you know, people would even 2001 01:47:22,480 --> 01:47:24,800 tell you, dude, I remember seeing people say it doesn't 2002 01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,160 even matter how good your quality is, you just got to be 2003 01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:29,080 consistent with it. And I'm like, God damn, 2004 01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:30,920 seriously? We're setting everybody up for 2005 01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:32,720 that. Like that sounded like something 2006 01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:35,720 you would say to your friend to set them up for a bad day. 2007 01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:38,200 But now it's like you have to be on top of things. 2008 01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:40,200 You have to be like, invest, dude. 2009 01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,880 There's companies that contact me all the time willing to give 2010 01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:49,440 me cash for a back end on videos so that I can get whatever I 2011 01:47:49,440 --> 01:47:51,840 need or go on trips. They're like, hey man, we'll 2012 01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:56,640 give you like $100,000 and you can get a YouTube Red or not a 2013 01:47:56,640 --> 01:48:00,520 YouTube Red, sorry, but a red, the red cameras, the I can't 2014 01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:02,480 really accompany the black magic or whatever red cameras. 2015 01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,160 And I remember I was like, you guys do know who I am, right? 2016 01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:07,080 And I'm like, yeah, you're ACG and I'm like, so you know, I 2017 01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:11,080 don't go anywhere or care about that or do anything sponsored, 2018 01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:13,760 right? Never got a response, but I was 2019 01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:16,360 like, you could tell they were just sending random emails out. 2020 01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:18,000 I was like, dude, I'm the wrong guy to talk to. 2021 01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:19,240 Like I'm not going to care about any of that. 2022 01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:21,520 But it was crazy they were offering and they're a real 2023 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,320 company. I did check they, they've 2024 01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:25,440 definitely worked with some people that I've even worked 2025 01:48:25,440 --> 01:48:29,680 with YouTube wise where they've been able to get 20 grand to 2026 01:48:29,680 --> 01:48:33,480 start out a studio, you know, get a nice camera, whatever. 2027 01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:38,600 And then if they do well, the company takes, you know, a 2028 01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,040 percentage from videos. But I'm telling you right now, 2029 01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,280 dude, how does that even paying out right now with so many 2030 01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:45,200 YouTube? I mean, and making 20 grand on 2031 01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:48,520 YouTube and then making enough on YouTube that you could, you 2032 01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:52,640 could basically give out 20 grand to a company to pay them 2033 01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:55,200 back. I don't know, seems like they're 2034 01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:58,440 really, really, really thinking like everybody's going to see 2035 01:48:58,440 --> 01:49:00,960 success. They I wonder if they forced you 2036 01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,760 to do shit though, like drama stuff, you know, I wonder if 2037 01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:06,120 they like do we'll put you in charge, we'll give you all this 2038 01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,120 cash, right? And you can make whatever you 2039 01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:09,640 want, dude, you can make whatever you want. 2040 01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,160 We we don't want, we don't want to interfere. 2041 01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:13,800 With your spirit, throw some drama. 2042 01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:16,960 We don't throw some drama. But but we're going to have this 2043 01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:20,960 PR guy who calls himself a dev come over to your house and 2044 01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:24,160 he'll just, you know, just talk to you about things you could do 2045 01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:26,000 in the future. He's not a manager, man. 2046 01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:29,080 He'll manage some of your stuff and he's not a producer, but 2047 01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:32,400 he'll produce some shit and he'll control everything that 2048 01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,240 you want to make in the future. But I mean, he won't control me. 2049 01:49:34,440 --> 01:49:37,040 Can he just come over? If you sign here, we'll send 2050 01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:38,560 him. But don't worry, man, that 2051 01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:40,800 paperwork, it's not binding. If you're unhappy, you can 2052 01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:45,000 always quit 1.2 seconds after you sign. 2053 01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:47,880 The ability to quit ends, but go ahead and sign up. 2054 01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:51,280 Yeah, boy, that would work well. I'm imagining someone over your 2055 01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:55,840 shoulder and he's like, Carrick, can we run that part again, but 2056 01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,480 like, throw a bit more drama in there? 2057 01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:06,240 Yeah, great. A AAA development doesn't seem 2058 01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:08,080 appealing right now to the lack of job security. 2059 01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:13,080 I mean dude, triplet no, no. What do you think of that? 2060 01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:16,680 I think it's by far the most because it quite literally even 2061 01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:20,160 if they have layoffs it is the place giving you a check and 2062 01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:23,040 actually health and life insurance without having to pay 2063 01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,240 off the side like. Probably. 2064 01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:28,960 I mean, it's just like everybody I talk to is like, no, even if 2065 01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,920 we know it may go bad at some point, it's better than being at 2066 01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:35,880 a smaller company and doing all that shit and still not knowing 2067 01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:37,120 if it's going to go bad at some point. 2068 01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:40,440 Feels. Like there's if you're at 2069 01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:44,320 Ubisoft, you have pretty high confidence that it's not like 2070 01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:47,440 even with their. Layoffs you have exactly, 2071 01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:49,720 exactly because you'll get reconstruction, not layoffs. 2072 01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:51,680 I've worked through H PS reconstruction. 2073 01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:56,160 That was probably 10 to 15 years in total of reconstruction. 2074 01:50:56,160 --> 01:51:00,200 That's how long it took. And I remember there's a massive 2075 01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,160 amount of job security there versus just working on the 2076 01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:05,760 street and hoping that if you watch somebody with some soap, 2077 01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:09,000 he'll give you a a dollar. Like there's a huge difference 2078 01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:10,400 because at least they were there. 2079 01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:13,960 Even if you did have to worry, you still could, you know, you 2080 01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:16,040 had a chance to move somewhere. You had it. 2081 01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:17,960 You know, there were there were ways and and there were 2082 01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:19,960 mediations. A lot of times we did just like 2083 01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:22,720 most of these companies do. They'll give you like, I guess 2084 01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:24,960 what you would say, contacts within the industry that you 2085 01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:26,600 wouldn't get if you were just laid off one day. 2086 01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,040 But yeah, yeah. I don't know. 2087 01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:32,520 Sucks no matter what. I don't know why everything 2088 01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:34,000 seems to be a comparison anymore. 2089 01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,360 It's like, who cares? It just sucks. 2090 01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:40,480 Sucks to get laid off. Been laid off from very few 2091 01:51:40,480 --> 01:51:43,080 companies but I can tell you I only need to have it happen once 2092 01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:44,840 to go. Well, that is a shitter. 2093 01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,200 You know what's tricky too? Because you would assume that 2094 01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:51,800 the, let's say, bad people are being laid off or the bad 2095 01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:56,120 apples, but that's not the case. Actually, even in my company 2096 01:51:56,120 --> 01:52:01,000 we've had this where so we've lost some really good people to 2097 01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:05,880 layoffs and it was simply due to circumstance because their role 2098 01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:10,160 maybe wasn't as critical or like the product they were on was 2099 01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:12,840 something that they could kind of cut back on. 2100 01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:16,600 It's nothing to do with them. They were great in the role. 2101 01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:20,680 You know it happens. Yeah, it's sad too, because 2102 01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:26,760 especially like, luckily I get to luckily because I do sort of 2103 01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:29,440 try to ask them questions. I get to, you know, talk to 2104 01:52:29,440 --> 01:52:32,960 people who do work at the major companies, talk to people who do 2105 01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:34,960 this is their first day or whatever. 2106 01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:44,440 And I just think that until you do, there is a massive lack of 2107 01:52:44,440 --> 01:52:48,320 information or understanding of what goes on other than your 2108 01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:51,240 typical social signal, like news article. 2109 01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:54,240 And it's like once you start talking to people, for example, 2110 01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:56,400 you might ask a question, why would you say it? 2111 01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:58,560 Activision, right? I think that's a valid question. 2112 01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:02,040 Let's say, let's say, OK, this came up last time, why are these 2113 01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,280 guys staying in Activision? They must hate working on Call 2114 01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:08,160 of Duty. Legitimately, of the 20 or so 2115 01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,560 random people I've talked to who worked on Call of Duty, 2 2116 01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:15,800 disliked it 2 out of 18. There is a higher success rate 2117 01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:19,520 there than any job I've ever worked at when So if I went to 2118 01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:22,240 my old job and said, how many of you like doing what you're 2119 01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:25,840 doing, Johnny, it would be two out of 18 if I was lucky, if not 2120 01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:29,680 zero. And I, it's crazy. 2121 01:53:29,680 --> 01:53:32,040 It's just like, dude, you guys need to actually talk to some of 2122 01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:34,400 these people before you just come up with like random things, 2123 01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:38,360 because I especially, you know, being in the creative part. 2124 01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:41,360 I think people forget that like it there is a magic there. 2125 01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:45,240 Even if you're creative in a in a in a place that you're still 2126 01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:48,840 making games, man, it's worse being a database administrator 2127 01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:51,400 and you think you're going to help new companies with 2128 01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:53,640 inventories and instead you're working at a big company 2129 01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:57,400 inventory and paint. You know, and you have to read 2130 01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:01,200 about cerulean blue for fucking 18 hours of your day and sort 2131 01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:05,880 Crimson versus, you know, puse like that right there. 2132 01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:08,560 That makes me want to die. Even saying it out loud, like, 2133 01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:12,120 Jesus, that's a horrifying. That would be a horrifying job. 2134 01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:16,120 Paint database administrator. Yeah, Wait a minute. 2135 01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,440 Yeah, Paint, paint database administrator. 2136 01:54:18,480 --> 01:54:21,440 That's a job right there. That be like, I'm not sticking 2137 01:54:21,440 --> 01:54:24,880 around. Carrot, can you please drop 2138 01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:26,160 that? This is by the way, he's not. 2139 01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:28,160 He's not saying this. This is a joke because of what I 2140 01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:30,280 said about the company or about a manager. 2141 01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:31,960 Carrot, can you please drop that Johnny guy? 2142 01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:36,480 He's cringe and good for our product and I don't even know 2143 01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:38,000 if. There's not good for the brand. 2144 01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:45,280 Not good for the brand dude. I will have people, we, we have 2145 01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:48,920 great fans, like for the most part, but you will get somebody 2146 01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,760 who gets so irate about something that's so small. 2147 01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:56,720 And a couple weeks ago we had somebody who was really mad. 2148 01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:06,240 They were really mad that a review had come out when a game 2149 01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,800 was buggy. I'm going to use an example 2150 01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:12,360 because I don't remember the game, but let's say hunt Hunter 2151 01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:15,600 simulator, which they did the they did the patch, the patch 2152 01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:16,920 came out. It was worse than the original 2153 01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:18,240 game and I had to go back and review it. 2154 01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:21,360 But they were saying something like, Oh my God, I can't believe 2155 01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:23,720 this review, blah, blah, blah. And it was, you know, 5-6 months 2156 01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:26,200 later, you know, blah blah. But they were so mad that I 2157 01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:30,160 found that they had posted like 28 times on various YouTube 2158 01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:35,960 channels and I was just like, damn, that's, he's a paint 2159 01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:40,920 database administrator for sure. That guy has spent most of his 2160 01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:44,880 day sorting between puse and salmon cerulean. 2161 01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:49,160 And he just, he, he's probably next in line to be on the news. 2162 01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:51,360 Just saying. That would be a, that's a, 2163 01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,560 that's a, that's a hard, that's a person who's having a hard day 2164 01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:55,800 right there. What else do we got? 2165 01:55:56,960 --> 01:56:02,600 Oh, I got to stretch my back. If you can, if you can code a 2166 01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:06,200 game, you can make more money coding something else. 2167 01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,480 Nope. I think it was true. 2168 01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:15,880 I think he's absolutely right. If we said six months ago, maybe 2169 01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:18,080 8. But I think that the new, what 2170 01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:21,440 we're seeing now, especially with the new augmented assistant 2171 01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:25,040 Kleies, the, the, you know, command line interfaces, that's 2172 01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:27,280 pretty tough. I'm going to let this dog in. 2173 01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:30,080 Can you fucking continue this? Let's talk about it. 2174 01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:34,400 What do you think? Yeah, I think it the devil's in 2175 01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:41,280 the details because if you are Bush guy, you can you're a dev, 2176 01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:44,800 right? And you technically you may call 2177 01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:49,080 yourself a game developer, but do you really know much about 2178 01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:51,680 coding? Like a lot of your skill set is 2179 01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:56,160 around making some really good looking bushes. 2180 01:56:57,120 --> 01:56:59,960 And like how much of that is going to be transferable to 2181 01:56:59,960 --> 01:57:04,600 other industries? You know, I mean, in, in that 2182 01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:07,600 space, you can always reinvent yourself and say, you know, 2183 01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:11,960 screw it, I'm just going to study Python for two months and 2184 01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:13,960 I'll, I'll become a Python developer. 2185 01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:18,840 And a lot of the stuff that you've learned is at least the 2186 01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:23,320 mindset of it is transferable or like the pseudocode level. 2187 01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:33,320 But there are certain like dev types, game devs that are highly 2188 01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:35,600 coupled with, for example, the game engine. 2189 01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:38,280 So they know how to do a lot of stuff in Unreal Engine. 2190 01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:42,160 But if you take them out of that and away from the blueprints and 2191 01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:45,400 a lot of those things, they can't really do something from 2192 01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:51,120 scratch and let alone code in a different context that much. 2193 01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:56,040 Now with all the help you have from like like Carrick was 2194 01:57:56,040 --> 01:58:01,040 saying from AIS and stuff, you can probably, you know, get into 2195 01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:05,360 something different much more easily and definitely vibe code 2196 01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:10,640 your way into stuff. So it's possible, but I wouldn't 2197 01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:14,200 say it's maybe as easy depending on the role. 2198 01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:22,160 Eternal says it's cringe and Lex Luthor. 2199 01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:28,240 No, as cringe and as Lex Luthor looking as he may be, Johnny is 2200 01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:31,520 the only Co host who reliably shows up weekly. 2201 01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:35,240 True. Whether for good or bad I am 2202 01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:39,720 here like that cyst or like that herpes that Carrick was 2203 01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:43,720 referring to. Did forget about AIA. 2204 01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:47,360 Lot of jobs are going. I don't know if jobs are going 2205 01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:54,920 so much as they are changing and like the, the day-to-day is 2206 01:58:54,920 --> 01:59:02,200 changing a lot for sure. But I still, I still view it as 2207 01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:07,160 a, you know, very good field, someone who's in it. 2208 01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:11,800 I'm not worried about my job going away basically, but it is 2209 01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:16,840 changing very quickly. The number of jobs is probably a 2210 01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:19,920 huge obstacle. The job market is terrible right 2211 01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:21,000 now. That is true. 2212 01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:25,200 The market is tough. The industry overall is tough, 2213 01:59:25,840 --> 01:59:30,480 especially I think for gaming it's been, it's been very rough. 2214 01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:33,680 I love the one about you being as cringe and Lex Luthor and 2215 01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:36,880 you're the only show host who is the permanent show host so you 2216 01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,800 got a kudo for doing what you should be doing anyway. 2217 01:59:40,280 --> 01:59:42,720 That's the way life should be. That's the way it should be. 2218 01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:44,840 That's like tipping your delivery guy. 2219 01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:46,200 Yeah, sorry. Sorry. 2220 01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:48,000 What were you saying? I had to yell at the dog. 2221 01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:50,320 What were you saying? I was saying that's like tipping 2222 01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:53,160 your delivery guy because they did their job, Yeah. 2223 01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:55,960 You know, I still do. Do you? 2224 01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:58,400 I do, yeah. I tip them. 2225 01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:00,000 I tip them because dude I. Was. 2226 02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:01,920 I just don't trust the companies any. 2227 02:00:02,160 --> 02:00:04,400 Well, I never did. Like this isn't something magic. 2228 02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:08,000 The companies just magically were, you know, filled with bad 2229 02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:11,240 people. When there's a when there's more 2230 02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:15,560 than one hand between my dollar and the person, I start to get 2231 02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:17,800 nervous. So if I'm paying you for 2232 02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:20,440 something like I pay you through pay PayPal, right? 2233 02:00:20,440 --> 02:00:21,880 If I pay you through PayPal, that's fine. 2234 02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:25,240 But let's say you had PayPal and let's say you lived in a place 2235 02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:26,880 that didn't, so maybe it was Bitcoin. 2236 02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:29,440 I wouldn't be nearly as comfortable because there's just 2237 02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:34,160 too many steps between my money and your money and the 2238 02:00:34,160 --> 02:00:37,560 translations across them. So yeah, I definitely give money 2239 02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:41,960 to, I give a little extra because, you know, company will 2240 02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:45,000 be like, Oh yeah, we got database coverage costs of like 2241 02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:47,160 $3. It's just be like, whatever. 2242 02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:50,480 So I, I try to give. I'm not the greatest all the 2243 02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:51,720 time, but yeah, I try to give some. 2244 02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:55,680 I try to at least be very nice to them because I, I feel a lot 2245 02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:59,440 of gratitude like, dude, you actually delivered this. 2246 02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:02,720 You know, you didn't just toss it like some other delivery 2247 02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:05,840 people or just like leave something behind a rubbish bin. 2248 02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:12,600 It's like delivered. Fuck it is, you know anything 2249 02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:15,880 else We got like dude, the other day I had someone delivering a 2250 02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:20,000 package and they first of all, they didn't ring at all because 2251 02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:22,480 I, I was home. They did not ring, right. 2252 02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:24,440 They didn't even attempt to like ring it. 2253 02:01:24,760 --> 02:01:28,840 But because my balcony, I can see the outside, right? 2254 02:01:29,000 --> 02:01:31,560 I'm like ground floor. I see the outside, I'm sitting 2255 02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:34,280 on the balcony and I see this motherfucker, right? 2256 02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:38,520 He approaches my door. He doesn't ring. 2257 02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:45,760 He doesn't ring my whatever he simply looks and says OK turns 2258 02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:52,480 around ghost leaves my package behind one of our dumpster you 2259 02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:57,720 know bins and and he's got headphones so he doesn't answer 2260 02:01:57,720 --> 02:02:01,520 when I call out so he just leaves it there and and it said 2261 02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:03,680 like. Then I see in the app delivered. 2262 02:02:04,480 --> 02:02:10,080 Fuck off. So yeah, I I do have gratitude. 2263 02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:12,720 You know when people do a good job with that stuff. 2264 02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:15,840 Oh man, what else do we got? I'm going to probably have to go 2265 02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:17,920 here in a second. I'm dude my dog. 2266 02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,160 The reason why it took me longer, my dog ran to the fence 2267 02:02:21,160 --> 02:02:23,360 so I was just like I'm going to get him and he did the thing 2268 02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:25,720 where he laid down and I was frustrated so I picked him up 2269 02:02:25,720 --> 02:02:27,120 and fucked up my back completely. 2270 02:02:27,120 --> 02:02:28,600 So now it's like twice as bad as it was. 2271 02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:30,200 I've already taken blood. I'm. 2272 02:02:30,440 --> 02:02:32,080 I'm not. Going to take a ton of pain meds 2273 02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:34,520 so I just took aspirin but it's not doing anything. 2274 02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:37,360 One last fun one I wanted to run by you. 2275 02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:41,600 I saw Andy Serkis was talking about acting in games. 2276 02:02:42,680 --> 02:02:46,240 So he said on on one hand, Hollywood is using video game 2277 02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:49,840 engines already, so that's there's some crossover. 2278 02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:54,760 But he never viewed acting in movies and video games very 2279 02:02:54,760 --> 02:02:57,200 differently. They kind of view, you know, he 2280 02:02:57,200 --> 02:02:59,880 kind of viewed both as the same thing. 2281 02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:02,960 And I thought it was interesting because he's been one of the 2282 02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:08,040 best like mocap actors in movies, you know, Gollum, 2283 02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:11,720 obviously all this stuff. And he's been great in some 2284 02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:16,120 games too, so it's kind of cool to see his perspective on it. 2285 02:03:16,240 --> 02:03:18,920 I hadn't thought for you. Like, do you view it 2286 02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:21,440 differently? Like when we see Keanu in 2287 02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:25,880 Cyberpunk versus him in a movie, do you feel like his acting is 2288 02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:28,360 different because it's a different medium? 2289 02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:30,080 Yeah, but it's still the same skill. 2290 02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:31,920 It's just some people are better to watch. 2291 02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:34,280 A person who does TV shows, they'll go to a movie and suck. 2292 02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:36,280 Some people do movies, they're amazing actors. 2293 02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:39,600 They try ATV show and suck. So games just different format, 2294 02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:41,640 different people directing you, different style of doing it. 2295 02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:42,680 But he's right. Yeah. 2296 02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:44,960 There's not much of a difference in the in the idea of that Your 2297 02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:46,320 instruction might be somewhat the same. 2298 02:03:46,320 --> 02:03:48,760 You are a fake person in a fake world pretending to do fake 2299 02:03:48,760 --> 02:03:50,120 things. Fake Allee. 2300 02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:53,040 That's your Yeah, ultimately that's it. 2301 02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:55,680 But I also think he's talking from a position. 2302 02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:58,520 It's almost like talking down to everybody, not in a bad way, but 2303 02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:00,800 from a position of knowledge that he probably doesn't 2304 02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:04,680 remember he's gleaned since he's been the leader of that due to 2305 02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:08,520 Lord of the Rings, which Lord of the Rings entire way of filming 2306 02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:12,160 is identical to your Uncharted or identical to whatever. 2307 02:04:12,640 --> 02:04:15,200 What he's talking about is not the same thing that a lot of 2308 02:04:15,200 --> 02:04:20,080 actors think when they see like Rigs or they see old style of 2309 02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:23,560 filming stuff where it was FMV. So most actors you talk to when 2310 02:04:23,560 --> 02:04:26,560 you say you're going to be in a game, they think FMV. 2311 02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:30,120 Why would they not? FMV is film, so they think it's 2312 02:04:30,120 --> 02:04:31,880 to choose your own adventure. So they turn it down right away. 2313 02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:34,040 And this has been brought up by 1001 actors. 2314 02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:36,200 They bring it up all the time. They're like, they have no clue 2315 02:04:36,200 --> 02:04:38,520 that that's a real person. Most of them think that the 2316 02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:42,000 character, like Johnny Silverhand, there's no mocapping 2317 02:04:42,000 --> 02:04:44,240 below it. They think it's just an animator 2318 02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:47,520 because the only comparisons they have are movies and 2319 02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:49,600 animated cartoons. Yeah. 2320 02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:53,240 So it's not going to match up with them, but yeah, he's right. 2321 02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:55,080 Yeah, they're pretty close and we get some. 2322 02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:58,440 I mean, I don't know. I didn't think Keanu was very 2323 02:04:58,440 --> 02:05:00,720 good, but I don't think Keanu is very good. 2324 02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:07,160 Really, I'm I'm a little shocked. 2325 02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:09,440 I'm, I'm talking about in cyberpunk. 2326 02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:11,960 Yeah, yeah. I don't think Keanu's the 2327 02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:14,040 greatest actor in the world. He's pretty wooden, which is why 2328 02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:18,640 John Wick works. I think Johnny had a couple 2329 02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:22,160 moments of outbursts that didn't work well, because Keanu. 2330 02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:24,240 Have you ever heard Keanu scream in a movie? 2331 02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:29,480 He's like. I don't know if I have it. 2332 02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:31,680 Dude, watch. Him in speed man, like, you 2333 02:05:31,720 --> 02:05:35,360 know, get under the bus. He just doesn't even have the he 2334 02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:38,600 doesn't have the throat and watch somebody doesn't have the 2335 02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:41,240 throat sounded really weird. But if you watch somebody scream 2336 02:05:41,240 --> 02:05:43,440 in real life and then fake scream, you can tell a mile 2337 02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:45,800 away. Watch somebody fake scream and 2338 02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:48,080 watch somebody really scream. It's it has to do with like the 2339 02:05:48,080 --> 02:05:51,520 movement, the body, the larynx, the chest, and you can hear it 2340 02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:54,400 in the sound. You can hear it in the actual 2341 02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:56,640 output. Keanu Great. 2342 02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:58,640 Loved him. Like, I didn't even mind that 2343 02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:00,200 character in it. But yeah, there were times where 2344 02:06:00,200 --> 02:06:02,400 I was like, he's pretty, he's pretty wooden, you know? 2345 02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:04,240 Pretty wooden. Yeah, but still I. 2346 02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:06,200 Can see that. Super happy he was in there 2347 02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:08,600 because he helped, you know he's in there. 2348 02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:12,680 Definitely. Admittedly, I think we were more 2349 02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:15,160 excited than other actors were assuming. 2350 02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:18,360 That meant that the inroads to the next $1,000,000 was a game, 2351 02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:20,720 meaning we thought it was a big deal. 2352 02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:26,040 But I'm pretty sure most movie stars weren't like Oh my God 2353 02:06:26,320 --> 02:06:27,200 Keanu. Same. 2354 02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:30,560 I think that. Now, maybe as a result of those, 2355 02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:36,080 you know, big hits, Hollywood actors start to view it more as 2356 02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:38,720 a serious. It could be, but look. 2357 02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:41,760 Look at what happens on YouTube Shorts, Look at Hemsworth. 2358 02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:44,040 Look at all these guys, every single time they're asked about 2359 02:06:44,040 --> 02:06:47,360 doing a superhero movie, a video game, what have you. 2360 02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:49,400 What did they say? Every time I asked a friend or 2361 02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:50,960 asked my son or asked my daughter? 2362 02:06:51,120 --> 02:06:56,160 So at at currently it doesn't seem to be other than money, 2363 02:06:56,360 --> 02:07:00,360 meaning there's good money to be made now because remember, FMV 2364 02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:02,400 is fast. You you're not like having 2365 02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:04,880 somebody mocap. You're basically hitting, you 2366 02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:06,840 know, sort of record and you get to choose. 2367 02:07:06,920 --> 02:07:09,360 Yeah. So with these now, I mean, every 2368 02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:11,960 dude just recently on YouTube, there must have been sixty of 2369 02:07:11,960 --> 02:07:14,520 these in a couple days time. I watched because I love these 2370 02:07:14,520 --> 02:07:18,120 kind of videos. Be like, yeah, so whatever made 2371 02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:22,320 you be Thor, whatever made you be Johnny Silverhand or whatever 2372 02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:24,920 made you be this, the majority of them all say the same thing. 2373 02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:28,120 There'll be one or two that like games very low. 2374 02:07:28,280 --> 02:07:31,000 Many will be like Cox, who will be like, I'll do anything. 2375 02:07:31,320 --> 02:07:34,240 The guy from Expedition 33 where he's like, it looked 2376 02:07:34,240 --> 02:07:36,640 interesting, blah, blah, blah, but then has no clue what a game 2377 02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:39,840 is afterwards and admits it, which I thought was hilarious. 2378 02:07:40,640 --> 02:07:42,440 And then you. The rest are like, yeah, I had 2379 02:07:42,440 --> 02:07:44,920 to ask a family member. I had to ask my son or daughter, 2380 02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:47,280 like, should I do this? And the son or daughter's 2381 02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:49,480 usually like, what the fuck of. What do you mean? 2382 02:07:49,480 --> 02:07:51,840 Of course you should do it, but you and I've had the same 2383 02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:53,480 problem. It's basically, if you think 2384 02:07:53,480 --> 02:07:55,920 about it, video gaming is like the roadblocks to the rest of of 2385 02:07:55,920 --> 02:08:01,320 us where we didn't know Roblox had deathmatch racing, rally 2386 02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:05,000 fucking, but it's even in our bailiwick. 2387 02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:07,040 It's something we should technically know, but how would 2388 02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:09,240 you know you need to know it if you were never told you need to 2389 02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:12,880 know it And it's in a section of area that you don't know, right? 2390 02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:16,200 Like you would literally that's an invisible fucking wall that 2391 02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:19,360 you could crash into. But you there's no need for us 2392 02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:21,600 to have known that. And I think with actors, they 2393 02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:26,440 know TV shows, commercials, movies, and I think now you 2394 02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:29,640 would say series are different than TVI think that's fair to 2395 02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:31,840 say. Like your Netflix, your Toby, 2396 02:08:32,080 --> 02:08:34,760 those guys, Toby's another one, dude. 2397 02:08:34,760 --> 02:08:39,240 These, these small streamers, they're doing their own shows 2398 02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:42,800 and they may not be huge, they may not be like Plytoscope or 2399 02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:45,920 whatever on Netflix. Yeah, but independent shows? 2400 02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:49,680 Yeah, and they're like they keep a person who maybe is accustomed 2401 02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:52,200 to 100,000 to 400,000 a year living. 2402 02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:55,800 They keep them comfortable. You know, it shows in the income 2403 02:08:55,800 --> 02:08:59,920 is is somewhat commensurate. And I found out Tubi has some 2404 02:08:59,920 --> 02:09:02,120 originals that just surprised me that people weren't. 2405 02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:04,520 I mean, well, the Hallmark Channel I think is probably the 2406 02:09:04,520 --> 02:09:07,120 starting of everything because the Hallmark Channel, once they 2407 02:09:07,120 --> 02:09:10,160 really got into streaming, dude, there's a bunch of people who 2408 02:09:10,160 --> 02:09:12,880 don't do nothing but homework stuff ever. 2409 02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:15,840 They just act entire actors and actresses who show them. 2410 02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:18,080 You're like, dude, I haven't seen this guy in this movie. 2411 02:09:18,080 --> 02:09:22,800 He's like, why would I ever, why would I ever go and do that when 2412 02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:27,320 I can have them who have a body of my work come to me and say we 2413 02:09:27,320 --> 02:09:29,600 would love to make you more comfortable today than you were 2414 02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:31,680 yesterday and still have a good time and feel good about 2415 02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:33,840 yourself. That's a fucking hard way, dude. 2416 02:09:33,840 --> 02:09:35,800 Can you imagine that? I mean, you, you know, some 2417 02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:37,600 people say they like to challenge themselves. 2418 02:09:37,600 --> 02:09:39,840 How many people, Johnny, how many people do you think out 2419 02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:41,080 there? Give me the honest truth. 2420 02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:43,760 How many people do you think out there out of 10 when you, when 2421 02:09:43,760 --> 02:09:45,920 they're like, when you hear them say something like I love to 2422 02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:47,560 challenge myself. I love to be uncomfortable. 2423 02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:53,080 How many people out of 10 who say that 1/2? 2424 02:09:53,080 --> 02:09:56,440 Yeah, they they might say it right, but I think when when the 2425 02:09:56,640 --> 02:10:00,960 chips are rubber hits the road, yeah, yeah, you know, you're 2426 02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:04,000 staying at your job, at your. Dude, it's crazy comfort. 2427 02:10:04,040 --> 02:10:07,320 Exactly how many times have you had a friend who's like, I'm so 2428 02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:10,240 cool, man. I fucking I, I tell, I tell 2429 02:10:10,240 --> 02:10:12,560 anybody anything. I'll I'll fucking do anything, 2430 02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:13,760 blah, blah, blah. And you're like, what are you 2431 02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:15,120 doing? They're like, I'm a database 2432 02:10:15,120 --> 02:10:17,600 fucking paint administrator. You're like, how long you been 2433 02:10:17,600 --> 02:10:18,560 there? 12 years. 2434 02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:20,880 And you're like, do you like it? Nah, I fucking hate it. 2435 02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:23,520 You're like, dude, then what are you saying? 2436 02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:26,280 Like you're lying about one of those two things. 2437 02:10:26,360 --> 02:10:30,080 Either you love it inherently or you dislike it and you would be 2438 02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:32,600 fired because you, you know, most places you can't talk about 2439 02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:34,120 back to your boss the entire time. 2440 02:10:34,880 --> 02:10:36,040 Yeah, I love that kind of shit, man. 2441 02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:39,480 I love that there's always something funny about like the 2442 02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:42,160 idea of somebody just having a job they're comfortable with and 2443 02:10:42,160 --> 02:10:44,440 love and I love. I don't, I never watch them. 2444 02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:45,680 I don't even know what they're like. 2445 02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:48,360 But like a Hallmark Channel, I know what that is because 2446 02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:50,520 Hallmark are the cards, the love cards. 2447 02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:54,680 The you know, I love that we had anal sex yesterday. 2448 02:10:54,680 --> 02:10:56,560 Let's I hope we do it again on our anniversary. 2449 02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:58,440 I don't know what they say, but they say something in there 2450 02:10:58,440 --> 02:11:00,640 that's like lovey. That doesn't sound lovey, but 2451 02:11:00,640 --> 02:11:02,000 you know what I mean? They say something in there 2452 02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:04,800 that's lovey and they have an entire channel and the idea of 2453 02:11:04,800 --> 02:11:07,120 like being able to just act in those would be sweet. 2454 02:11:07,120 --> 02:11:09,360 If that's your thing. If that's your thing and then 2455 02:11:09,360 --> 02:11:12,880 you go off on your other, you know your three months or 2456 02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:16,360 whatever that you're not filming that show and you know you make 2457 02:11:16,360 --> 02:11:19,440 your more risky stuff. If that's what you or or do, 2458 02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:24,800 just go fucking water tubing. Like, I don't know, it'd be, 2459 02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:27,440 it'd be sort of hard if you were getting everything paid for and 2460 02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:30,080 you were working at let's say nine months out of the year. 2461 02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:33,800 And then three months out of the year, if you could just live and 2462 02:11:33,800 --> 02:11:37,360 just gel in your house and do nothing, it'd be hard to like 2463 02:11:37,360 --> 02:11:40,200 want to get up and do. Would you if you if you if you 2464 02:11:40,200 --> 02:11:42,440 had 9? That would be tough. 2465 02:11:42,440 --> 02:11:44,880 It'd be tough. Yeah, yeah. 2466 02:11:45,760 --> 02:11:50,320 Let's see. Oh God, I mentioned Keanu and 2467 02:11:50,320 --> 02:11:56,040 everybody's talking about Keanu. I think Keanu Constantine. 2468 02:11:58,000 --> 02:11:59,760 I'm trying to think of what Keanu's been good in. 2469 02:12:02,200 --> 02:12:06,480 Yeah, he always kind of plays Keanu, doesn't he actually? 2470 02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:07,440 And and that's. Why? 2471 02:12:07,440 --> 02:12:09,720 I mean, he's good. When he chooses a good movie, 2472 02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:12,440 Johnny, it works out. When he chooses a movie that 2473 02:12:12,440 --> 02:12:16,240 fits him, you're like dude, like dude, I'm telling you straight 2474 02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:23,240 up, Johnny Utah bank robbers. Patrick. 2475 02:12:23,240 --> 02:12:26,640 Swayze yeah, yeah. Point break, Point break in it, 2476 02:12:26,640 --> 02:12:27,320 man. Yeah. 2477 02:12:28,080 --> 02:12:31,000 Going on some gnarly rides like it's just everything. 2478 02:12:31,000 --> 02:12:34,120 About the lawyer one with the Al Pacino. 2479 02:12:34,240 --> 02:12:35,760 Oh yeah, You remember that? Yeah. 2480 02:12:36,120 --> 02:12:38,240 Then deal with the devil, I think. 2481 02:12:38,240 --> 02:12:40,760 Or something with the devil. Devil's advocate is what you're 2482 02:12:40,760 --> 02:12:42,480 talking about, yeah. Oh, yeah. 2483 02:12:42,560 --> 02:12:45,080 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to wrap this fucking 2484 02:12:45,080 --> 02:12:46,520 thing up because my back is killing me. 2485 02:12:46,520 --> 02:12:49,280 I got to go and figure out what the hell is going on. 2486 02:12:49,960 --> 02:12:51,200 You're streaming tomorrow. What are you doing? 2487 02:12:51,960 --> 02:12:53,680 What game? Stream tomorrow. 2488 02:12:54,280 --> 02:12:56,880 I think we're just doing some community day. 2489 02:12:56,880 --> 02:12:58,640 We do a bit of league, a bit of snow. 2490 02:12:58,640 --> 02:13:02,360 Runner A. Bit of league, a bit of a bit of 2491 02:13:02,440 --> 02:13:06,080 Lol and a bit of snow runner. All right everybody, you'll see 2492 02:13:06,080 --> 02:13:08,480 some videos from me next week. I hope you guys all have an 2493 02:13:08,480 --> 02:13:11,520 excellent weekend. Enjoy yourself, stay safe, peace 2494 02:13:11,520 --> 02:13:13,200 out. Bye bye.