1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,600 Hey everyone. Welcome back to San Portland 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,000 podcast, the home of authentic conversations between coaches. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 That sounds good. I literally just made that up. 4 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:15,600 So if you like it, let me know because that's what it's sort of 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,000 becoming, which is wonderful today. 6 00:00:18,300 --> 00:00:23,200 I've got Robin are cool with me now, he's very humble and he 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,600 won't tell you how good he is. So I'm going to tell you how 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,900 good he is, he's amazing. He is one of the best and 9 00:00:28,900 --> 00:00:33,400 smartest coaches, I know and I'm So, honored to have him on the 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:34,300 show. Welcome Robin. 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,300 Thank you. Thanks Sam. 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,600 First of all, I like to introduction. 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,900 I thought I was great. Like it sounded like you had 14 00:00:41,900 --> 00:00:44,600 rested for years. Thanks very much for having me. 15 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:47,200 Now you're very welcome that you're very welcome. 16 00:00:47,500 --> 00:00:51,700 And so so we're not going to drop CVS or know that boring 17 00:00:51,700 --> 00:00:54,300 stuff. But what we actually want to 18 00:00:54,300 --> 00:00:57,300 know is what's your story? How did you? 19 00:00:57,300 --> 00:01:01,100 How did you start? What what what drove you to 20 00:01:01,100 --> 00:01:02,000 where you are? Today. 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,700 I think it's probably a very similar story to a lot of people 22 00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:10,500 and I think I've heard you talking about it before and 23 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:13,800 obviously over time you evolve and you thought you both but I 24 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:16,600 traditionally effectively got interests and see because all 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:22,200 the failed athlete myself but that purpose has changed 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,300 obviously over time and it's more what drives me now is is 27 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:30,800 trying to optimize Human Performance and trying to give 28 00:01:30,900 --> 00:01:34,900 other people You know, the best opportunity in life that they 29 00:01:34,900 --> 00:01:38,500 can get, and it's not because I didn't get it, but it's just 30 00:01:38,500 --> 00:01:41,700 because I'm passionate about trying to get other people to 31 00:01:41,700 --> 00:01:43,900 achieve what they are capable of achieving. 32 00:01:44,700 --> 00:01:48,500 I think so often you come across, people who've got the 33 00:01:48,500 --> 00:01:51,300 talent but donations don't necessarily achieve what they 34 00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:56,500 can achieve. And I just want people to 35 00:01:56,500 --> 00:02:01,900 succeed, so that's what sort of drives me today in terms of 36 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:05,100 doing what I do. Nice man, not many people say 37 00:02:05,700 --> 00:02:09,100 they old athlete and then all that they want to do is drive 38 00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:11,800 people to succeed. I think it's wonderful and like 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:17,000 that's It's so broad which is great because it doesn't 40 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 pigeonhole you to any think it does. 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,900 It shows No Boundaries into the type of work that you want to do 42 00:02:22,900 --> 00:02:29,400 and where you want to go, what I to you have the we have this 43 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,600 failed athletes story. Then when was your first 44 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:38,500 opportunity at coaching, First opportunity and coaching was 45 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:43,800 doing University pretty much. I did a sport Science degree so 46 00:02:43,900 --> 00:02:48,200 naturally through that course you start coaching but I'd say 47 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:52,100 my first proper experience of being an Essence see coach was 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,600 during my time as a master's student in Cape Town and I got 49 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,400 involved with the University team as an SMC and assistant is 50 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:07,300 and see with our under-20 team. And that's kind of where I think 51 00:03:07,300 --> 00:03:10,900 the passion grew it for me at the time, it was just filling. 52 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:15,900 I'm off to Union and doing something, you know, and I think 53 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:19,400 the club that I went into helped a lot, just because of what the 54 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,500 passion that they had the community that they had, and I 55 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:26,800 wanted to be part of it and it just went from there, to be 56 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,400 honest. It went pretty quick. 57 00:03:29,300 --> 00:03:33,200 But yeah, my first experience of coaching was under 20 Rugby 58 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,600 Union Couple of nights a week, bring up the cones, collecting 59 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,700 the cones and you do and it went from there. 60 00:03:41,300 --> 00:03:44,000 And you also, what were you 18? 19 at that time. 61 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,900 At that time, I was probably a little bit older 23, I think 62 00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:55,400 probably 24. Now, 23, probably because by the 63 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,700 time I was 26, I was the head of essence, he had a Premiership 64 00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:05,400 Club. So and so, so your and before 65 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,300 that you had never done any form of coaching. 66 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:12,100 No other than just our practicals at University during 67 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:17,200 our lectures and even that. And even that as you probably 68 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,700 know, is not very comprehensive in terms of teaching you how to 69 00:04:21,700 --> 00:04:25,700 actually coach. And I still think today that 70 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:27,800 I've probably missed out somewhere along the line, but 71 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,000 I've just tried to be curious and everything I do and learn 72 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,400 from what I do. And listen, so I asked for a lot 73 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,100 of feedback, a lot of the time from people around me and Just 74 00:04:39,100 --> 00:04:42,800 trying to use those experiences to grow my ability as a coach. 75 00:04:43,300 --> 00:04:47,100 Yeah, one of the things I've listened to on podcast and 76 00:04:47,100 --> 00:04:50,500 listen to interviews with people. 77 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:54,700 Bypass the notion of curiosity, you're very curious human being 78 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,600 I know you are but what are the types? 79 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,500 Everyone, everyone's like I'm curious but they don't actually 80 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:05,000 tell people how they're curious. They don't tell them like how 81 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,200 curiosity manifest themselves in themselves, scuse me. 82 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:11,700 So, So when your bring you get the itch for a topic or you get 83 00:05:11,700 --> 00:05:14,200 the itch for something called, there's some reflective practice 84 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,400 that you've gone through. What type of questions are you 85 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:21,200 asking yourself? What else is there to know? 86 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,400 I think. I think I'm an individual, as a 87 00:05:25,407 --> 00:05:29,000 lot of other people. Are that questions myself a lot? 88 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,600 Like I don't think I know anything, although I probably do 89 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,400 know, I approach the subject. Why approach an individual with 90 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,900 the mindset that I don't know anything. 91 00:05:37,900 --> 00:05:41,600 So the type of questions are asked the most probably sound 92 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,000 quite Elementary and maybe even talking to someone, they 93 00:05:44,008 --> 00:05:47,200 probably think this guy knows nothing but what I'm trying to 94 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:52,500 do is just get their perspective or just trying to get you all 95 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:53,800 the information that actually matters. 96 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,700 As opposed to trying to come across like someone that knows 97 00:05:56,700 --> 00:06:00,300 something because then you, you changing their narrative. 98 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:04,800 I think. And so I think I'm always 99 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,600 asking, like, there must be something else there. 100 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:11,100 There must be something more that I don't know about 101 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:13,500 anything. Whether it's warm ups, 102 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:15,700 cooldowns, the most Elementary stuff that we do. 103 00:06:15,700 --> 00:06:19,100 It's, there's there must be something else out there that I 104 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:22,000 don't know already and I just I think I approach any situation 105 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,700 or context or any conversation With that sort of mindset. 106 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,300 Yeah, that's awesome. And that's The Beginner's mind 107 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,300 beginner's brain. It's amazing. 108 00:06:31,700 --> 00:06:37,300 And it's the one that removes blind spots for you or shows you 109 00:06:37,300 --> 00:06:39,200 where they are at least and you're right. 110 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:42,400 The element of conversation. There is if you go into a room 111 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:47,400 and you're asking we've all done it, we've gone to observe other 112 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,300 coaches for the day and stuff like that, and then you ask them 113 00:06:50,300 --> 00:06:52,500 the questions like you're on their patch. 114 00:06:52,700 --> 00:06:55,900 And, you know, there, Either they're the hot shop for the day 115 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,900 and there's almost this kind of like, protective element that 116 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:02,500 comes over. No, I'm just asking a question 117 00:07:02,500 --> 00:07:04,800 because I want to, I want to know. 118 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:08,300 And and I think it's a, you know, that process for anyone 119 00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:12,300 listening like write that down. That's that is the way to do it. 120 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,900 It's the way that you develop. So, you're there in 2023, your 121 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,500 you've been putting out cone to be in writing programs. 122 00:07:20,500 --> 00:07:23,800 You've been doing all that sort of stuff that You know, everyone 123 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,000 turns into here, but it will be a point and then so then you're 124 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,800 heading up a team. What's that? 125 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,700 Like, It was tough in the beginning. 126 00:07:37,900 --> 00:07:39,900 I don't know what I was doing to be honest. 127 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:43,200 I just went with what I thought was, right? 128 00:07:43,700 --> 00:07:47,700 Yeah, and I think like if I reflect a little area so far, 129 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:51,900 I've always had every opportunity I've got, I've had a 130 00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:57,100 coach that's been very open to allowing me my space and being 131 00:07:57,100 --> 00:07:59,400 able to do what I think is, right. 132 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,800 And I think that was, I was very lucky in my first full-time job 133 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,600 with the university. I got promoted to the first 134 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,000 team. And they play in the, in the, in 135 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,800 the National Varsity Cup in South Africa, which is quite a 136 00:08:12,808 --> 00:08:18,400 big competition in South Africa. And at the time when I was 137 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,900 promoted to the first team, there was a new coaching staff 138 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:22,400 as well. So we were basically a 139 00:08:22,407 --> 00:08:27,400 completely new group of coaching staff and the guy that came in 140 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,600 as the head coach, Kevin music and that was a big Jim guy 141 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,000 himself. So he placed a big emphasis, on 142 00:08:34,299 --> 00:08:38,299 my line of work in the team, and he just said, go Runner that do 143 00:08:38,299 --> 00:08:40,299 what you want. Basically just said what he 144 00:08:40,299 --> 00:08:43,400 wants his the guys to be fit, strong powerful fastest as 145 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,700 everyone wants, but he said, whatever you need to do do it 146 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:49,600 develop the program at the time, there was no full time program 147 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,900 at all. So we set up a whole high 148 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:54,600 performance center. We stood up structures to get 149 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,600 the boys in training or five times a week. 150 00:08:59,900 --> 00:09:02,400 Yeah, we basically started it from scratch and I didn't know 151 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,100 what I was doing. I just I just went along with 152 00:09:06,100 --> 00:09:07,400 it. I knew the guys. 153 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,800 Had to train a certain time for a certain number of times a 154 00:09:09,808 --> 00:09:12,300 week. And I knew, you know, Basics. 155 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:14,600 But I didn't know how to run a high performance Department. 156 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:20,000 I was 23, but I think from that experience and put it threw me 157 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,700 into the deep end. And I think I learned a hell of 158 00:09:22,708 --> 00:09:27,200 a lot jackpot. Yeah, we are fridge. 159 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:33,700 I mean and Yeah, I think are super lucky because we were 160 00:09:33,700 --> 00:09:35,600 tipped to be relegated That season as well. 161 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,400 We had 12 games in the previous two years across those 162 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:41,600 tournaments and we came into that third season. 163 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,000 The one that I joined for and we were odds-on favorite to be 164 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,900 relegated. New coaching staff young group 165 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:50,900 of players and we actually ended up winning the final. 166 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:56,100 We won the varsity Cup and the nature of how we did it. 167 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,800 Also, I think helped me we were 21 points. 168 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:02,900 Down with four minutes, left of the game. 169 00:10:04,700 --> 00:10:08,500 And we ended up winning. We ended up winning by Four 170 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:11,000 Points. We, it was ridiculous. 171 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:17,500 We went we went to 84 minutes and so yeah, it went a bit crazy 172 00:10:17,500 --> 00:10:20,500 after that like because he wanted the car so fit and all 173 00:10:20,500 --> 00:10:22,200 the stuff. And we didn't have any injuries 174 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,200 the season, like it was just a perfect environment for 175 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,500 everything, everything came together and we are after a 176 00:10:28,508 --> 00:10:29,700 season and a half with their, my God. 177 00:10:29,900 --> 00:10:35,500 Got recruited and moved up into the Premiership teams and also 178 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:39,500 continue to learn. Yeah, I probably should have, I 179 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:43,100 probably should have your team turns around that Lake and 180 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:45,400 fully. The Almond is game over. 181 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,800 Let's just do something else. Next, that's great. 182 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,100 That's great. And then didn't indict. 183 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:56,800 You, if you think about it there, You know, you're you're 184 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,600 you're literally learning through experience. 185 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,300 Like, you are getting the best on-the-job training, along 186 00:11:05,900 --> 00:11:12,100 moving it, out of that out. So yeah, yeah. 187 00:11:12,100 --> 00:11:14,500 You're getting literally the best on-the-job training. 188 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:20,200 And what, you know? When you when you put yourself 189 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,600 by her 23-year old and you're, you're setting up these 190 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,700 schedules and you know, you're applying the basics with over 191 00:11:27,700 --> 00:11:29,800 there. Was there any time where it went 192 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,500 really wrong? Although it is there anything 193 00:11:32,500 --> 00:11:36,400 that pops out in your head? You're like, oh my God, that was 194 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,000 bad. All that was really good. 195 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,400 That was lucky. I think often actually reflect 196 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:47,400 back on to the back on that time and I'm like, it felt like at 197 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:52,300 that time. I knew the most hmm in my whole 198 00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:57,500 career, but it was because I was I'd been exposed to the least 199 00:11:57,500 --> 00:12:01,400 amount of information. The least experienced, I hadn't 200 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,500 been exposed to all these other Essence. 201 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:06,400 He coaches the information that time wasn't so available. 202 00:12:07,100 --> 00:12:10,500 I didn't have any preconceived ideas about What worked, what 203 00:12:10,500 --> 00:12:14,000 didn't work? So I literally took programs 204 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,200 that, you know, I'd been influenced by from other coaches 205 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,600 around me are implemented that. And I went with it, I kept it 206 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:29,700 simple and As soon as obviously, you get to you you expose 207 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:31,100 yourself to so much more information. 208 00:12:31,100 --> 00:12:33,600 You start questioning to this work, does that work? 209 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,600 You try this, you try that. So I would say like during that 210 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:44,100 period, it felt like I'd like a new the most compared to what I 211 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:46,100 have over the last 10 to 12 years to be honest. 212 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:50,300 But obviously what I was doing then doesn't compare to what I'm 213 00:12:50,300 --> 00:12:53,300 doing now. Yeah it just worked at that 214 00:12:53,300 --> 00:12:55,200 time. I kept it super simple. 215 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,000 We didn't have a lot of technology or equipment, so I 216 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,500 mean, everything was pretty standard and easy. 217 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:05,100 There was not much that could go wrong. 218 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:10,700 Basically, I think my biggest challenge was probably moving up 219 00:13:10,700 --> 00:13:14,300 a level in to the Premiership where I think I got a lot wrong, 220 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,600 and probably learned a lot from that experience as well, 221 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,400 obviously. But I would say that, that was 222 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,000 probably my biggest challenge or like, just Wake up call. 223 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,100 Yeah, now that's great. Like you're ignorant to your own 224 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:32,700 flaws. At that stage, aren't you? 225 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:36,300 You're just exactly. Yeah, I mean also saying that is 226 00:13:36,300 --> 00:13:39,500 I I did come across a program. The other day from that period 227 00:13:39,500 --> 00:13:42,600 when I was with the university and I was like, oh my God, how 228 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,300 did I put this together or how did the boys actually get 229 00:13:45,300 --> 00:13:48,200 through that? It was a preseason, happy trophy 230 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,600 based program and I was just like holy shit. 231 00:13:52,700 --> 00:13:57,500 But yeah, they got through it and And did pretty well. 232 00:13:57,500 --> 00:13:59,600 So, that's yeah. It's it. 233 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,300 When you do I found some old programs as well. 234 00:14:03,500 --> 00:14:07,900 And, and it's true, and it's always the sobering reminder, 235 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:10,500 that actually everything, can the weight rooms General? 236 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:14,700 And pretty much the lot of the other stuff is General as well. 237 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:20,300 Just like when I am shocked at what they did, but then also I'm 238 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:24,400 like that's okay because if it was really important they 239 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:29,500 wouldn't have survived you know. Exactly. 240 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,200 Yeah. That's great. 241 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,900 And then and I It's a useful fact, you know, drawing lessons 242 00:14:36,900 --> 00:14:39,300 out this for, for any coach listening. 243 00:14:39,300 --> 00:14:41,800 I think the coaching landscape is very different. 244 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,700 Now, there's not that many of those opportunities around to 245 00:14:45,700 --> 00:14:48,400 getting getting those reps to get out coaching. 246 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,100 As soon as possible with with what Emmy other means, you have 247 00:14:52,100 --> 00:14:55,700 is really important today start going through that process. 248 00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:59,000 So when you've got to the Premiership made a lot of 249 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,200 mistakes, they started to realize some of the mistakes 250 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:06,000 that you are making and Then you ended up changing sport, right? 251 00:15:06,700 --> 00:15:11,900 Yes, how did that happen by chance? 252 00:15:11,900 --> 00:15:16,200 I think to an extent, as a lot of them come to context, 253 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,800 probably more so than anything else. 254 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,000 But yeah, I think I was lucky enough to always have had 255 00:15:23,300 --> 00:15:27,400 someone slightly ahead of me and their Journey on the same path. 256 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:32,800 And when Lombard was has, always sort of been, you know, 257 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,200 Colleague and friend of mine. And he was a couple years ahead 258 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,900 of me. And he had already being 259 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:43,300 recruited or moved over to India and he had got the opportunity 260 00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:45,000 to work with Indian women's hockey team. 261 00:15:45,700 --> 00:15:48,900 And when he started, they then asked him or do you know someone 262 00:15:48,900 --> 00:15:52,900 else that could come across the only maze? 263 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,900 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 264 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,800 So yeah, yeah, they contacted me and they, this director of 265 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,700 performance called me and said, do you want to come And I said, 266 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:07,800 yeah, sure. And yeah, it is a pretty quick 267 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,100 process. There was no real interview 268 00:16:09,100 --> 00:16:11,600 anything, it just kind of likeable can you start in two 269 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:18,100 months time type of thing. And yeah, I went, it was All art 270 00:16:18,100 --> 00:16:19,900 is an opportunity. I can really turn down to us, 271 00:16:19,900 --> 00:16:21,800 although it was a big change in sport. 272 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,300 I always had aspirations to be in rugby, to go to Rugby World 273 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:30,100 Cups and stuff that was always my dream and never thought about 274 00:16:30,100 --> 00:16:33,300 working in field hockey, but I did always also have the 275 00:16:33,308 --> 00:16:36,200 aspiration of going to an Olympic Games and obviously 276 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,100 being successful and look at games and that opportunity gave 277 00:16:39,100 --> 00:16:41,200 me the chance to achieve that goal. 278 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:46,900 And as soon as I realized that it was kind of an Brainer for 279 00:16:46,900 --> 00:16:50,500 me. It was why not try the 280 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:51,600 opportunity to challenge yourself. 281 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,500 Again, completely new cultural experience, completely new 282 00:16:54,500 --> 00:16:58,000 sport. And I think I was at the right 283 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,400 age to do it as well. It's not an opportunity that you 284 00:17:00,408 --> 00:17:04,400 can do all the time I think. And at that stage, I was 27 or 285 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,400 28. And I had the opportunity to go 286 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,200 and Lead an international snc program, so yeah. 287 00:17:13,099 --> 00:17:14,599 Yeah. It was, it was a good 288 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:16,200 opportunity I think to take in it. 289 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,700 Turned out pretty good as well. Yeah I think it turned out 290 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,500 pretty good and and so obviously you've got the differences in 291 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:29,100 sports but what what makes transition hard is culture and 292 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:32,400 we you know, one of the things, the realities of strength and 293 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,000 conditioning as well. Sometimes, if you do want to 294 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,700 work, you have to relocate. And sometimes people like 295 00:17:39,700 --> 00:17:43,300 yourself relocate, thousands and thousands of miles away from 296 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:45,900 family, friends, and and all those sorts of things. 297 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:47,900 But Then you touch down in India. 298 00:17:49,700 --> 00:17:53,000 And I'm what was the, you know, you could, you could be good at 299 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,800 your job at. But but when you're in places 300 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,100 that are so different in culture, How did that have an 301 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:04,600 effect on user as a coach? But then also, just as Robin has 302 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:09,400 left home? Massive actually understated and 303 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,400 probably difficult to put it into words, to be honest. 304 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,100 It was. And if you haven't been to Asia 305 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:17,700 or a country like India, it's so difficult for people to actually 306 00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:21,100 understand the extent of what the country is like. 307 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:27,300 Yeah, I arrived in India and knowing a little bit because of 308 00:18:27,300 --> 00:18:29,500 communication and conversation with people that were already 309 00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:34,500 there, but it still didn't prepare me for what the what the 310 00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:37,600 reality was like. I didn't, I actually didn't 311 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,900 unpack my suitcase for my the first month I was there because 312 00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:43,500 I was convinced. I was not going to stay. 313 00:18:44,900 --> 00:18:48,000 It was a super super overwhelming just from every 314 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,100 aspect of life. Mmm of your senses were on 315 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:55,500 overdrive. The cultural change was 316 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:58,900 difficult from sport, the different sports as well, just 317 00:18:58,900 --> 00:19:00,600 like our Miss rugby. I'm a strike. 318 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,500 Be I miss working with the guys that I was working with. 319 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:05,900 I miss doing the type of stuff that I was doing was right 320 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:10,400 because Aki. At this, at the time, the boys 321 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,800 couldn't really understand English or talk English, show 322 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,300 communication and bent to between you and the athletes 323 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:21,200 wasn't their facilities. Where a challenge, it was food, 324 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,600 will have to return to living the. 325 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:26,700 Everything was a big Challenge, and yeah, it took a lot of 326 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:33,800 resilience and a lot of Sort of belief in my purpose as to add 327 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,600 actually taking the job in the first place to work through that 328 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,000 and stay. I was lucky enough that my 329 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,200 girlfriend came with me, she joined me after a month of me 330 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,900 being there and I think if she hadn't come, I probably wouldn't 331 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:50,900 have stayed. But yeah, she, she actually came 332 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:54,600 with me and spent three months with me, in India, and I think 333 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,100 that just helps settle in. And by the time you do, get a 334 00:19:58,108 --> 00:20:03,200 little bit more familiar and comfortable with things and But 335 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,700 you are a super tough. I mean, I wouldn't always say to 336 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:07,800 everyone that it's the right thing to do in terms of 337 00:20:08,100 --> 00:20:11,100 uprooting and traveling 20,000 kilometers to a new country, 338 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:14,900 just to pursue a work goal. Because I think along the way. 339 00:20:14,900 --> 00:20:18,400 And on reflection I have lost out on a lot of life in terms of 340 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,800 friendships relationships. I've missed family, gatherings 341 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:27,100 weddings, miss my mom's wedding. So, like those things, it comes 342 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:29,800 with challenges like that. And I think at the time, I was 343 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,900 just too naive and I was very siloed My Approach and all I 344 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:38,500 wanted to do was achieve Olympic, you know, qualification 345 00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:39,500 and success. Ultimately. 346 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:46,500 And yeah, although the journey and the process was super cool 347 00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:48,900 and interesting, and I wouldn't change it reflecting on it. 348 00:20:48,900 --> 00:20:51,000 You can obviously do things a little bit differently. 349 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,300 Yeah. Obviously you actually answer 350 00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:55,100 the question. I was going to ask you, you 351 00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:58,600 said, and this is the another buzzword resilience and then you 352 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,900 are you today took a lot of resilience and then you Was 353 00:21:02,900 --> 00:21:05,200 going to say what's resilience and you actually said it is the 354 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,700 belief in my vision and my purpose for what I want to 355 00:21:09,700 --> 00:21:13,200 achieve that is resilience is reminding yourself of what you 356 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,900 want to achieve. And I think it's admirable, you 357 00:21:16,908 --> 00:21:22,100 know, saying that it wasn't easy and it wasn't fun, and it was 358 00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:25,300 hard, and I had to sacrifice a lot to get there. 359 00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:28,900 And then, looking back on reflection, maybe some of those 360 00:21:28,900 --> 00:21:32,700 things weren't worth the sacrifice and our butt. 361 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,200 I think the most important thing that I draw out of that, if 362 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,700 you're going to do something, do it be prepared to take the 363 00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:44,800 consequences of that. But if it is part of your plan, 364 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,500 then get after it, don't waste time, do it because when since 365 00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:55,500 danice tan and, and that's so powerful, so, so admirable for 366 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:57,700 you. I just love the fact that you 367 00:21:57,700 --> 00:22:02,000 didn't unpack his suitcase very good and I says, you are 368 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,600 sleeping on my couch. Action for a month. 369 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:19,500 I was just like I'm not even a purpose and perseverance, led to 370 00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:24,200 the LED to me being able to stay there for as long as I did 371 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,200 because it wasn't only those first six months that were 372 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,200 challenging. It was four and a half years 373 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,700 that were challenging of course they periods in time doing that. 374 00:22:32,900 --> 00:22:36,600 Phase that we wouldn't change for anything and it was super 375 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,400 fun. We had a group of 12 foreigners 376 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,200 there. Australians Dutch South African 377 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,800 everything in it was we had a great time, but we went through 378 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,200 a period of time in lockdown covid, where we spent nine 379 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,500 months locked inside a wall. We couldn't go anywhere 380 00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:55,800 couldn't, and I'm not saying that that my situation is worse 381 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,300 than anyone else. Is everyone went through a tough 382 00:22:57,300 --> 00:23:02,200 period but being in a foreign country like that locked in 383 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,300 walls. For nine months, you couldn't no 384 00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:06,000 one. Saw their families couldn't go 385 00:23:06,008 --> 00:23:07,800 to shop for my months, couldn't do anything. 386 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,800 It was that was also probably one of the most challenging 387 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,200 times. Yeah. 388 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,700 As a probably was for everyone. But yeah, those times just make 389 00:23:16,700 --> 00:23:18,200 you grow. I think it's an individual as a 390 00:23:18,208 --> 00:23:22,100 coach and I think I've probably come out of it stronger and 391 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,800 better than yeah, what I was when I went into it. 392 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,100 That's awesome because there's a there's an opportunity in that, 393 00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:30,500 man. And I am obviously covid-19. 394 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,300 Everyone. And it's kind of like one of 395 00:23:35,308 --> 00:23:38,300 those things is that everyone's worst day is their own worst 396 00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:40,200 day. Nothing is comparable. 397 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,600 And my uncle got stuck in India. There are he said, we were given 398 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,900 four hours. It was like grab your shit 399 00:23:48,700 --> 00:23:51,100 because when it's done, you ain't coming out. 400 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:52,100 Exactly. Yeah. 401 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,800 And he must have felt like a bit of a prism It was show. 402 00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:00,800 Yeah, I won't go into too much detail because as you said, 403 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,500 like, everyone's got their own reality, so you can always 404 00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:09,400 identify with someone else's reality, but it was for sure a 405 00:24:09,408 --> 00:24:12,400 good personal learning period, for sure. 406 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:17,200 And an opportunity where I did take a lot of time to invest in 407 00:24:17,208 --> 00:24:18,800 myself with personal development. 408 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,400 And it's basically how I started on this journey with you 409 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,500 actually. Yeah, it was a period of 410 00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:28,700 Personal growth and just exploring other avenues, 411 00:24:28,700 --> 00:24:32,800 basically of how to become a better person and how that can 412 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,700 translate into becoming a better Coach. 413 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,000 Yeah, I love them. That's so good. 414 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,500 And another see you have the who's Rio Olympics, wasn't it? 415 00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:44,100 Tokyo Tokyo. Sorry. 416 00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:48,700 And then and you got where did you guys finish in that finished 417 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:51,500 third. So one time and we got the 418 00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:52,400 bronze. Yep. 419 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,900 And there's it's actually interesting. 420 00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:58,500 Anything there as well as that you said is you know, some 421 00:24:58,500 --> 00:25:01,000 people only sign like a one-year deal as a coach. 422 00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:05,900 You're in for an Olympic cycle. In you, when you go into these 423 00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:09,600 things like you're in this for years and that's overwhelming in 424 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,900 itself, there's like a lot of coaches, don't even know what 425 00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:14,200 they're having for breakfast tomorrow. 426 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,600 Let alone a four-year commitment because there's none of them. 427 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:23,300 Had relationships, have lasted that long and and so you do 428 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:26,000 that, you get the bronze medal and your kind of, that's the 429 00:25:26,008 --> 00:25:27,800 Mountaintop we can sit back here. 430 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,000 Like I've actually achieved a goal that I set out to achieve 431 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,100 its tangible. What's right in front of me? 432 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,500 What's the conversation like about well, what's next? 433 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,000 I was contemplating will just curious as to how you're going 434 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,700 to ask a question like this. And how are they going to answer 435 00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:48,800 it? Because I can answer it in a 436 00:25:48,808 --> 00:25:53,400 very philosophical way and and get quite vulnerable about it. 437 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:59,900 But to be honest it since the day the moment that we won the 438 00:25:59,908 --> 00:26:03,900 Olympic medal and onwards as really been the most challenging 439 00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:10,300 time in my life. Just because everything I've 440 00:26:10,300 --> 00:26:14,800 done up until that point that led me to getting to that 441 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,400 moment. And once I'd got that moment, it 442 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,400 was almost instant that, all that stuff. 443 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,700 And then vanished it was like, I don't know what my purpose is 444 00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:27,500 anymore, I don't know what I'm doing. 445 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:34,300 And yeah, the conversations with myself where well, what next 446 00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:35,400 what am I going to? To do next. 447 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,200 Am I still do still have the passion purpose and the and the 448 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,400 resiliency to keep doing this type of job. 449 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,900 I knew that I probably had to leave India, just for personal 450 00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:51,500 reasons and like social life relationship perspective, but I 451 00:26:51,508 --> 00:26:55,600 didn't know where to go. I had built up, obviously, a 452 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,700 good relationship with the players and the coaching staff 453 00:26:57,700 --> 00:26:59,800 and India. And just, in terms of the 454 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,900 country, it turned out to be a place that I absolutely love. 455 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,700 And it was difficult to leave, to be honest. 456 00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:10,300 But I also knew it was probably the right thing for me to do, 457 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,700 but I left not having another job and that came with obviously 458 00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:19,200 another Morissette of more questions of like, what's my 459 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:24,300 purpose now? And what next and I didn't know 460 00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:30,300 what next, to be honest. So I teach answers is super 461 00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:32,200 tough period. But again, it's always an 462 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,900 opportunity to grow and I think From those type of questions, 463 00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:39,900 you start developing, what, what your next purpose is, what your 464 00:27:39,908 --> 00:27:44,400 next sort of goal, is in life. And that's where I'm at the 465 00:27:44,408 --> 00:27:47,100 moment. Yeah, I love that again. 466 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,200 It's super fun durable and, you know, thank you for that because 467 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,500 it's, it's so easy to be like, Arch, get another job. 468 00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:58,900 I'll just do it again. I'm thinking it'll be any 469 00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:03,200 different. And it's you know I was thinking 470 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,200 about myself when you know the day I got the first team trouble 471 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,800 was just like I've done it. Three years, or whatever layer 472 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,000 or resigned. And it was like an hour. 473 00:28:16,008 --> 00:28:19,200 Remember when I remember walking out that day, the exactly the 474 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,500 same Jesus. What am I going to do now? 475 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,600 Because I knew that that that was done. 476 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,500 It closed and you know your medal was the closing ceremony, 477 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:38,000 Olympics closing, ceremony it was done and then you're faced 478 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,400 with all these questions and life. 479 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,500 Throws you different curve balls and then you're trying to figure 480 00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:47,100 out but you still and I think it goes right back to correct me if 481 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,700 I'm wrong that. Now when you describe what, you 482 00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:53,500 know want to do stuff like that, no passion to improve 483 00:28:53,500 --> 00:29:00,000 performance improve people as that kind of a resounding result 484 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,100 of the experience of going through that change. 485 00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:10,100 Yeah, for sure. I mean, it's sort of come out of 486 00:29:10,108 --> 00:29:13,700 the whole experience of being in India's Bob, just because what 487 00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:17,800 drove me there, big time was just trying to give those type 488 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,700 of athletes the opportunity and life, that there were so 489 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:23,400 desperate for that. If they achieve that would 490 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,600 significantly change their life and I saw how, you know, impact 491 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,900 that I could have on an individual, how it could change 492 00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:33,500 their life and their family's life and potentially 493 00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:36,200 Generations, especially In a country like India. 494 00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:40,000 Now, it's not the same in my soul in my in my current 495 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,300 context, but the principle Remains the Same around. 496 00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:47,000 Okay, I'm not attaching my purpose to winning a tournament 497 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,300 or winning a gold medal. It's more around touching my 498 00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:55,500 purpose to maximizing someone else's potential and I think 499 00:29:55,500 --> 00:30:01,000 that can be endless as opposed to something that's definite. 500 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,900 Because once you receive that medal at the closure, where's I 501 00:30:03,908 --> 00:30:07,300 think with Having a purpose of enhancing the person's 502 00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:10,700 performance that performance is never closed its infinite. 503 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:16,200 You can always keep chasing and I think, yeah, that's what sort 504 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,900 of drives me now and I hope it's something that can keep, you 505 00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:23,500 know, the passion going, as opposed to reaching that sort of 506 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:27,000 end point again. You know next year? 507 00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:31,900 Yeah, wow. I'll try, I think, I think what 508 00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:35,400 also keeps me going is I've transitioned into new Ouch in a 509 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,300 new environment again and it's kind of like restarting again 510 00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:43,700 because it's it's a system that has worked in the past. 511 00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:45,900 It's a decentralized setting. So it's completely different to 512 00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:49,100 what I was doing before. It's a different language again. 513 00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:52,900 So I think those like constant changes as well keeps me on my 514 00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:57,700 toes a little bit and evolving personally, and professionally 515 00:30:57,700 --> 00:31:00,000 as well in terms of how I need to coach and stuff like that. 516 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:08,300 So, Yeah that's so good. They honestly that that but any 517 00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:12,000 I think any coach at any level of their career needs to listen 518 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,200 rewind the last five minutes and this and tagging. 519 00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:23,900 Because what that shows is is what someone who's actually done 520 00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:28,000 the work in going through that process rather than spiritually 521 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,000 by passing. It think look how Philosophical. 522 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,000 I am in my thinking because I've won and now Ivory reoriented my 523 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,300 life, but they still end up doing the same thing. 524 00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:41,900 You are complete. You're doing the same thing but 525 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:45,600 completely differently, the completely different intention. 526 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,400 And you said it's actually become endless now. 527 00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:53,900 And when it becomes endless you have freedom of choice and 528 00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:57,100 you're a perfect example that so you should be so proud of you, 529 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,600 like that's just bloody awesome more coaches, should be like 530 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,200 that. Yeah, thank you. 531 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,300 I mean some I offer nothing. I don't know what I'm doing. 532 00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:12,000 Because yeah, you can get caught into cycle as, you know, in this 533 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,800 industry. But what I have definitely tried 534 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,500 to do is we talk about a lot is like set boundaries and create 535 00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:23,300 the life that you want. I think in that in the time in 536 00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:25,200 India allowed me to do that. It was kind of like it. 537 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,800 Go with. This is what I actually want and 538 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,300 slowly over the last two years since moving on. 539 00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:34,600 I've I have probably achieved a lot of that in terms of getting 540 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,900 into an environment which is more personal friendly, you 541 00:32:37,908 --> 00:32:41,100 know, being able to set up my life and going into a job. 542 00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:44,900 Like, I've got now which is a little bit more flexible and has 543 00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:48,600 more freedom, allows me, you know, the opportunity to do a 544 00:32:48,608 --> 00:32:50,900 little bit more outside of just working. 545 00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:54,900 And I think that's, you know, what will keep me going as well. 546 00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:58,600 Because I've got the opportunity to be a little bit more diverse 547 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,000 as opposed to spending. You know, 16 hours at a 548 00:33:02,008 --> 00:33:08,100 facility, seven days a week. It's keeps you fresh as well. 549 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:13,700 I think and yeah. Enhances your coaching because 550 00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:16,700 when you do have the time with the athletes, you switched on 551 00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:20,600 and you've had time to freshen up and come into the environment 552 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,600 and really give you 100%, That's the best place to finish it. 553 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,700 That's brilliant. That's so good. 554 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,900 And we didn't even get to the next part. 555 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,400 That's that's part to you coming back part 2. 556 00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:36,400 So for anyone listening to us then some people may feel 557 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,300 compelled to reach out to you they've got experience you've 558 00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:41,200 got a lot of experience, a lot to offer. 559 00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:44,700 Is there any way particular that people can contact you? 560 00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:48,400 Yeah for sure. Through any other social media 561 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,900 channels? Instagram is probably the most 562 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:55,800 is the easiest Through my personal account, Robin are 563 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,400 curl, or through one of my business accounts as well. 564 00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:04,500 APA, Training Systems as well, you can reach us through there 565 00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:09,500 or yeah, email, Robin Dyke 007 at gmail.com. 566 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,100 There you go. Easy, easy. 567 00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:13,699 I love that. Well, thanks for your time 568 00:34:13,699 --> 00:34:15,300 today, Robin, I really appreciate it. 569 00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:17,300 Everyone else. Listen to this. 570 00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:21,000 Make sure you get on the list for the sport speed system. 571 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,500 But looks amazing, just let You know, and and proceeds are going 572 00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:29,199 to charity. Let's use sport to kick 573 00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:35,100 homelessness in to touch big event August 8th, which is still 574 00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:39,000 a top secret location, but it's going to be massive Centre of 575 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,199 London. Kings Cross August 8th, Legacy 576 00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:45,300 showcase, you are going to have your bloody socks blown off 577 00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:47,199 right there. So Robin, thank you so much for 578 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:48,600 today. I look forward to speaking to 579 00:34:48,607 --> 00:34:50,800 you again soon. Thank you sir. 580 00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:51,699 Thanks for the opportunity.