1 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,640 Welcome to Pitch It to Me podcast, a show about the 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,320 subjective past, present, and potential future of Fletch and 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,480 Blood design. In this episode, we'll talk 4 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,680 about the latest band and restricted announcement, as well 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,880 as how Legend Story Studios handles the game. 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,320 Having a variety of formats, You can find us across all socials 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,160 such as Blue Sky and Instagram at Pitch It to Me Podcast. 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,320 I'm Clark. I'm Buzzy and I'm Joel. 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:40,040 So an apartment update. We still don't have a dining 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,880 room, but we do now have a functional kitchen. 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:43,840 Yeah, we have. Forks. 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,040 We have forks. We have spoons, we have knives, 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,880 we have a cutting board. I did see a pan in there 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,760 somewhere. Too, we do have three pole pans. 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,040 Well, I mean. And how old are you guys again? 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,880 Look, it's been. Low blow, man. 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:02,640 What the fuck? It's. 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,120 Been a long fucking week my guy. Like, OK, OK, never mind. 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:06,760 Forget. I asked. 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,640 You know what? Also, Crucible has been a little 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,840 fun this this time around, I'm not going to lie. 22 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:16,160 I I picked a good format this month, yeah. 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,200 I didn't think this was going to be as good as it was. 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,920 So it's you have to run 10 copies of each card that you put 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,280 in the deck. Yeah, all of the same color. 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:33,280 Yes, so you could run 10 blue copies of disable I best know 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,760 for random card to pick. So like in one of my decks I'm 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,480 running 10 channel like frigids and I'm running 10 blue windows 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,080 by looking channel. Like frigids every single red 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,320 line deck that was like oh good I can have consistent red line 31 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:48,240 deck just immediately shit their pants. 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,360 That's part of the fun of the format is like your six card 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,080 idea is going to have strengths and weaknesses and you can 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,960 exploit those strengths. You can fall to your bad 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,600 matchups. You know, it's it can feel very 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,960 rock paper scissory, but just is really fun to be able to say 37 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,440 like look, I've always wanted to build a deck around these 4 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,400 cards and I'm really mad I have to throw other cards into my 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,560 deck already. With this format you don't have 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,520 to worry about that. You just run the cards you want 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,520 to run. It is. 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,760 It is the essence of the play. Yeah, in case you have no idea 43 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,720 what we're talking about, Crucible is our monthly rotating 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,760 changing format that I put on every month as part of our 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,760 Patreon rewards, but we also post the format publicly so 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,160 anybody can build a deck and jam games on our Discord if they 47 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,480 want. Yeah, we've also already played 48 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,080 the first round and all three hosts won their first round. 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,320 I mean, what can I say? Guess we're just go to like 50 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,840 that. It it also sort of feels like, 51 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,920 and maybe this isn't always the case, but I feel like with like 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,640 video game developers, they're always really good at the games 53 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:55,600 that they design. The deck that I was playing was 54 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,080 fine, but the decks that I've done the best on were the ones 55 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,880 that I ripped straight from Clark, so I feel like it's 56 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,240 really. Funny how you're like, oh, we're 57 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,840 playing the same hero. Oh yeah, that card's just way 58 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,680 better. Oh yeah, that shit card's just 59 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,080 way better. Like at first I was trying to 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,360 have fun with it. I like I built Embolden. 61 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,040 Like I think last week I talked about how I really wanted to 62 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,280 play Embolden in CC Embolden. It's the aura that draws a card 63 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,080 if you have an aura out already. And I figured it'd be really 64 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,360 good in this format. And it was OK. 65 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,600 It was like a fun deck to test against other people who were 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,720 like, oh, I don't think my deck is very good. 67 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,760 And I'm like, well, let's see if it can beat this, you know, and 68 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,680 it's much better to do like Oakenold. 69 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,360 Much better to just throw Oakenold for 9 off of the same 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,600 crumble six turns in a row. Yeah, much, much better. 71 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,880 Joel, do you want to tell us what you've been playing in 72 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,080 Crucible? No, I figured that would be your 73 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,600 answer. I have a record to protect. 74 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,240 I have screenshots of Joel giving us his record at an RTN 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,840 and it's a draft RTN so there's only so much you can do as far 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,120 as secret sauces. But his discord messages are one 77 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:11,520 O on Secret Hero 2O on secret hero 3 O on secret hero because 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,120 at that. Point. 79 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,920 We're not in his. Pod Yeah, like once you have 80 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,279 three wins, that that information doesn't do anything 81 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,560 for you, right. But it's still a secret like you 82 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,040 never. I still don't know why Hero he 83 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,520 was playing that event. I'm not gonna give you access to 84 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,280 data like that. An old place for keeps. 85 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:34,200 Dude. He's he's all fucking around 86 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:34,560 here. So funny. 87 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,600 Crucible monthly rotating format with you get nothing for 88 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,440 winning. That'll be, that'll be and 89 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,800 you're like, no. No, I won't tell you what I'm. 90 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,160 Playing the Captain America mean no, I don't think it will. 91 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,400 I had fun screenshotting those messages. 92 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:57,080 So for today's episode, we're going we've we've given you a 93 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:02,640 month now of like hard hitting intelligent dev conversation 94 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,920 because we're just talking about the BNR in the upcoming skirmish 95 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,920 season. So we just had to ban and 96 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,960 restrict an announcement. Typically whenever those come 97 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,800 out, we like to at least work it into something that we talked 98 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,000 about. And with skirmish season on the 99 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,240 horizon, there were no CC changes, but there were blitz 100 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,800 and living legend changes. And so we're going to talk about 101 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,600 that and we're going to talk about how LSS sort of handles 102 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,040 doing dev work for multiple different formats and we are 103 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,840 going to talk about why you should play in Skirmish season. 104 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,080 So with that in mind, Joel, why don't you take it away? 105 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,920 Why don't you lead us through red pitch with the ban and 106 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,000 restricted announcement? Yeah. 107 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,160 So I I really don't think this is a surprise to anybody, but 108 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:51,400 there are no changes in CCI feel like whenever a hero LLS, that 109 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,160 in itself is a very big change to the meta game. 110 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,560 We already talked about Viceroy a 72 living legend status last 111 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,880 episode. So I'm not going to dive into 112 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,720 that too much. So obviously the no changes to 113 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,960 CC are basically to see what happens, who's taking advantage 114 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,360 of this extra space in the meta game. 115 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,800 So you guys have any other thoughts about why we did not 116 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,760 see any changes in CC? I don't think there's like a 117 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,240 demon of CC. Yeah, right. 118 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,880 There's no one for the community to very easily point their ire 119 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,080 at other than like individual play styles and things that 120 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,600 players don't like. Right, Right. 121 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,400 I play aggro. I don't like new, I play 122 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,480 guardian. I don't like Enigma, you know, 123 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,000 like, but outside of that, it didn't feel like there was a 124 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,400 universally like, man, fuck this strategy. 125 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,280 Yeah, going on. Cyb wasn't dominating the meta 126 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,360 but it still got banned right? Yeah, so because there was so 127 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,880 many people complaining about it. 128 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,760 And on top of that, I think they were come back complaining came 129 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,520 from somewhere legitimate, which is that there isn't enough tools 130 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,640 to deal with this strategy or the tools that exist don't do a 131 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,520 good enough job, right? And but I don't feel like that's 132 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,320 the case right now in this meta. I think Syndra could have very 133 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,640 easily been a deck that felt like nobody could really be. 134 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,160 And yet we see plenty of heroes that have been above and have 135 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,800 remained above her in terms of RTN wins globally. 136 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,360 So it's not like she has become some overwhelming force. 137 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,560 Yeah, I think the next best I can format is going to be 138 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,040 Aurora. And I don't think that Aurora is 139 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,280 like, at an unhealthy level of strength. 140 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,320 Yeah. She's annoying because 141 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,040 everything swings for four, but it's not like game breaking. 142 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,440 They're still slink below. Yeah, and there's still clear 143 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,360 weaknesses, yeah and in the decks and strategies like Aurora 144 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:50,040 runs 0 poppers, so Prism is just this like really solid anti meta 145 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:54,640 strategy, but then Aurora. But then Prism also has 32 146 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,920 health so Aurora can like really threaten that life total. 147 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,840 Yeah. Aside from that though, Blitz 148 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,200 got a lot of really unprecedented changes #1 Crown 149 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,480 of Seeds got unbanned, and Traverse the Universe and Zephyr 150 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,920 Needle were both banned. Yeah. 151 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,360 So those were the. Changes like I do and don't 152 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,240 understand the Crown of Seeds unbanning because it was very 153 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,400 strong when Oldham used it and there's like three people that 154 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,640 can use it now as compared to two the last time it was legal. 155 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,200 So it just seems like it's going to be a very interesting meta 156 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,880 game for sure. Yarl can't be played in blitz. 157 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,159 No, he cannot. There's no baby yarl. 158 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,080 That is silly. Well. 159 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,120 I would like to see a baby yarl. Do you think we're going to see 160 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,880 his face? No no, we'll probably have like 161 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,680 a smaller mask. Traverse, Traverse the universe 162 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:53,200 and Zephyr needle. I understand why they were 163 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,040 banned though. Zephyr Needle was also banned 164 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,440 before the release of the Haunted because of. 165 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,840 I mean they're they're. If you have been paying 166 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,040 attention to CC at all you already know why Brian Go does 167 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,840 not like that card specifically. But Traversal Universe is 168 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:11,960 interesting to me because they unbanned Zen and increased the 169 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,560 amount of living legend points and banned A. 170 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:16,680 Few of his key cards in blitz and they thought like, let's 171 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:19,760 take it a step further so that he doesn't elegant. 172 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,720 I don't think it's not just a step further. 173 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,280 I think it's also to slow down Enigma. 174 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,920 Like I think just the ability to tutor out a chi does way more in 175 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,640 blitz than it does in CC maybe. Yeah, sort of in the way of like 176 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,880 any equipment that says this is now a power turn is going to be 177 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,920 more powerful in blitz than in CC, because in CC you have twice 178 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,880 the life to absorb that power turn, Yeah, than in blitz. 179 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,240 And you know one thing they mentioned in the article is that 180 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,640 you have a higher density of chi cards when you can only run one 181 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,200 copy of each one and your deck is. 60. 182 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,480 Like 40 instead of 60. Then you're gonna have like way 183 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,280 more control over the ratio of cheat cards do you want to have 184 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,720 in your deck. And you can like transcend turn 185 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,400 0 or turn one way more commonly in blitz than in CC. 186 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,000 True, and it means a lot more in blitz since you're already at 20 187 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,080 live. Yeah, notably Mask of the 188 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,320 Pouncing Links was banned a long time ago when Benji and Phi were 189 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,240 around. So Zen basically has like Mask 190 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,400 of Momentum and like the the mask of recurring whiskers or 191 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,520 what's the the one where you put a pop combo card on the bottom 192 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,400 of? Your that is Whiskers. 193 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,120 Yeah, Mask of Whiskers. Why isn't whiskers? 194 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:37,200 So yeah, I'm really interested to see how much that traverse 195 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,840 specifically impacts the meta, but Tara seems like he's gonna 196 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,920 be fucking insane. Also Living Legend. 197 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,680 I mean, my eyes always kind of glaze over it whenever I see 198 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:50,640 Living Legend changes, but I think this is a pretty big one. 199 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,480 The electromagnetic somersault has been restricted, which is 200 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,680 the one that lets you return action cards on the combat chain 201 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:01,000 to your hand at the end of the resolution step. 202 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,600 And with Aurora, this card's really annoying. 203 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,880 But like, if you're returning Crippling Crush, Starstruck or 204 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,600 Okanal to your hand for like a second use on the following 205 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,080 turn, Man, that seems absurd. Yeah, it's so interesting 206 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,520 because the electromagnetic somersault, that red can return 207 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,400 A0 cost or higher. And that yellow, it's A1 cost or 208 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,480 higher, and then a blue it's A2 cost or higher, which really 209 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,080 matters for Aurora, right? Because like you really want it 210 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,040 to be red so that you can get your nice red 0 for fours and 211 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,040 avoid pitching on your turn, right? 212 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,960 But Guardian just runs the Blues and is super happy. 213 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,240 Yeah. So there is 0 downside to Starvo 214 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,960 running 3 blue electromagnetic somersaults. 215 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,480 So now he can block 6 and return them both to his hand with a 216 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,320 blue. Yeah, Starvo got a lot of really 217 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,720 good and I don't think this is something we talked about in the 218 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,520 pod yet, but he got a lot of really good. 219 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,040 Sorry, I don't think we've talked about this on the pod at 220 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,840 all, but he Starbuck got a lot of really good upgrades in 221 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,960 Rosetta because Electro all the like lightning Blues were super 222 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,600 bad when he was relevant. So the fact that he got current 223 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,760 funnel and electromagnetic electromagnetic somersault just 224 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,440 skyrocketing back to like the same power level that he entered 225 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,440 a living legend with. For sure and it's so funny to me 226 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,480 every time like a card gets banned and or restricted in 227 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,080 living legend, it's always like other heroes that are catching 228 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:36,840 the catching the heat. Like Aurora is just like excited 229 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,520 to play Art of War and Tomo Fine Doll in Living Legend, I assume. 230 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,520 But like suddenly she can't play like electromagnetic Somersault 231 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,960 because Starvo's taking it. And because Starvo has so many 232 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,760 talents that like, if you look at the roster, there's like 10 233 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,840 heroes on that list out of the 45 that you can run other than 234 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,600 Starvo that might get cards banned just because they share a 235 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,920 talent with the strongest hero in the format. 236 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:01,800 And that's a really funny dynamic. 237 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,840 It's like this little like subcategory of like people of 238 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,280 like heroes that might lose cards has nothing to do with 239 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,160 them being like unfair necessarily. 240 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,000 Yeah, that's so funny. And there's only like 2 cards on 241 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,160 the band list that have nothing to do with Starvo. 242 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,960 It's Bonds of Ancestry and Open the Floodgates. 243 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:26,480 It's almost like Starvo wants a really broken overpowered hero. 244 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,400 I can't wait for the day we finally get the next like, well, 245 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,440 I mean, I can't wait. But it would be really funny if 246 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,520 we saw a hero that was stronger than Starvo in some way. 247 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,640 Like, oh. My gosh, I guess you could 248 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,680 technically say that like Shane has that. 249 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:42,720 Capability. Yeah, but he's not winning the 250 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,280 same way he is, but the same way Starvo is. 251 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,200 Yeah, At least not yet. I mean, Monarch 3 point. 252 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,400 I might have something to say about that. 253 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,720 I should also mention Kraken's Ether Vane. 254 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,840 You're right, you're right. There are three cars. 255 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,200 I misspoke a little bit earlier and. 256 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,400 Arguably, Cracker's aether vein was the most broken. 257 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,960 Yeah, yeah, that was pretty bad. That was pretty bad. 258 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,600 So. Funny. 31 Draw 30. 259 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,480 Also a commoner got a ban and restricted update which is not 260 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:15,280 all that common. Wink wink. 261 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,640 They lost, or they So in that format, Waning Moon, Zephyr 262 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,800 Needle and Rosetta Thorne were all banned and Ball Lightning 263 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:29,240 was unbanned. Holy shit, that's. 264 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,480 Fucking wild. They took the weapons from three 265 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,480 of the top heroes, namely Chain, Icelander and Ira. 266 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,360 And those heroes will probably still be pretty viable without 267 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,360 their weapons. But like the weapon is the game 268 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,600 plan and commoner like you. Just when you have the best 269 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,160 weapons in the format, you build your deck around those weapons, 270 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,960 you know? And they're gone now. 271 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,440 And surely there are better options, but it's a big meta 272 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,800 shake up. Yeah, it really, really is. 273 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,520 And also, Fuzzy and I were talking before the pod, we're 274 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,960 sort of talking about how enigma and reality fracture with like 275 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,760 the big ward attacks are the best deck in the format. 276 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,800 And comparing that to like what was banned, it seems like she's 277 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,640 only going to get stronger because Waning Moon can at 278 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,600 instant speed get, you know, threatened damage to destroy 279 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,760 these spectral Shields while they're talking now they can't. 280 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,680 Zephyr Needle also just insanely aggressive option and Rosetta 281 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,280 Thorne having the two into arcane. 282 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,440 That's like usually unless you have AB three, you're usually 283 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,400 destroying the wards. Yeah. 284 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,960 And also, so with these changes, I think not only does Enigma get 285 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,040 a lot stronger, but I think it opens up the door for more 286 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,560 heroes to like, find more aggressive options. 287 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,480 Because like, if you're like a ninja, you can probably deal 288 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,200 with Enigma pretty well. But if you're also getting 289 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,000 hammered by Icelander and Chain, I don't think you're getting 290 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,960 anywhere close to the top tables, you know? 291 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,800 Yeah, one of the reasons why I've stayed away from commoner 292 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:58,120 in the past is because I feel like it's just a few decks. 293 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,040 It doesn't feel like actually an open meta where I can play lots 294 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,760 of different decks and experiment and be flexible. 295 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,800 It's like dash boost is just better numbers than everybody 296 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,880 and you either need the like high roll potential of Chain or 297 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,640 the disruption of Icelander or the consistent grind value of 298 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,880 IRA to beat them. And if you're not doing that, 299 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,000 then why are you playing this format? 300 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,920 Which is wrong. It was a wrong assumption, and 301 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,440 if I actually bothered to play the format, I'd probably learned 302 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,960 that, but it kept me away from it. 303 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,960 Like I saw these decks just having way better numbers and 304 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,280 everybody else. And so it's like, well, why 305 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,000 would I want to try to make my Enigma brew work if these decks 306 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,920 are just going to run over me every single game? 307 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,640 Yeah, and these sort of changes do make me want to play 308 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,360 commoner. It just seems more accessible 309 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,400 because like now I'm like, OK, well, the worst for worst, the 310 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,560 worst offenders are out of the way. 311 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,880 So maybe it opens the line up for like Kasai or Bolton or 312 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,440 whatever, yeah. And you know, the price to enter 313 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,440 the format is really low because it's just Commons. 314 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,280 Yeah, I love that. And then we also got one big 315 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,079 shake up recently with the Blade Beckon airline that was printed 316 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:11,079 in the Haunted because those are like rare equipment. 317 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:13,560 They're playable in common air and the fact that they block for 318 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,240 two actually makes them better than many, many, many equipment 319 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,160 that already exist. So as long as they're still 320 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,720 swinging weapons, at some point, you're going to get 2 value out 321 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,920 of your equipment. And it's actually like pretty 322 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,320 Dang good. So like a lot of heroes are 323 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,000 running those now. It's not like a huge shake up, 324 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,720 but it's kind of interesting how commoner like we'll get the most 325 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,120 random tools sometimes and you're like, oh, I guess that is 326 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:39,480 strictly better than all the random equipment we've already 327 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,920 been running. And like where else are you 328 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,760 going to use like the cold foil Commons from? 329 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,680 Like the boxes you are, the packs you Rep? 330 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,200 I legitimately love commoner for that. 331 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,960 Yeah, I I've had a commoner Betsy list that's been sitting 332 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,680 in my back pocket for a while and I've been slowly getting the 333 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,880 cold foil because I'm like, I'll be flipping through someone's 334 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:01,040 binder and I'm like old foil vigor, if you say. 335 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,720 Yeah, like you're. So much for that. 336 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,680 They're like, I do not give a fuck about that card and I'm 337 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,960 like. Like how much did it cost you to 338 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,640 get Max rarity on your commoner deck Like. 339 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,200 Like 5 old dollar. Yeah, Max rarity and commoners 340 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,240 like peak masculinity. Don't have me. 341 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,080 Oh yeah. So that's pretty much all the 342 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,520 updates. They're pretty boilerplate. 343 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,920 I just wanted to go over them and sort of get our thoughts on 344 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,560 there. I personally am very excited to 345 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:31,920 play Blitz and Commodore, but I want to talk about how LSS 346 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,720 approaches design and balances in these different formats. 347 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,480 So let's go to our yellow pitch with Fuzzy. 348 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,200 What do you got for? Us Oh hey, that's me. 349 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,160 So I think it's really interesting that LSS has the 350 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:48,800 duty not just to make one awesome game, but really like 6 351 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,520 nice, well balanced ish, like fun creative games. 352 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,920 But it's the same cards that are in all these games, which seems 353 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,800 like a very challenging proposition. 354 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,880 And I just want to talk about how hard that can be or how LSS 355 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:09,280 has chose to handle it. And yeah, I want to point out 356 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,000 that it's always been Legend Story Studios Intent for Flesh 357 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,080 and would be played in multiple different ways with the same 358 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,680 cards being printed. Which is why ever since Welcome 359 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,600 to Wraith, heroes were printed as young versions and normal 360 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,400 versions. They're not called young and 361 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:28,960 old, they're young and blank. And for most heroes across the 362 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,760 entire like history of the game up until Rosetta, they had 363 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,680 exactly the same hero text, they just had half the life total. 364 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,040 Because young heroes are meant to be played for shorter games 365 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,560 of flesh and blood. And also notably it took a long 366 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,520 time before those adult heroes had any other format other than 367 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,800 classic constructed that was recommended for play. 368 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,480 You know, we had Blitz since I assumed the early days and I. 369 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,040 Want to say Crucible was when Blitz happened, right? 370 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,640 It wasn't there from Welcome to Wraith, was it? 371 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,080 Were they just for draft then? Well, they had the blitz decks 372 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,760 for Welcome Wreath, so there was blitz even back then. 373 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,040 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like the IRA, Welcome deck 374 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,000 is also blitz. Yeah, like Blitz was before CC. 375 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,440 Technically. Yeah, cuz the IRA welcome decks 376 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,080 were like the prototype. So this has always been the 377 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,280 intention of LSS and it's a little bit bold because there 378 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,760 are clearly some strategies or cards or even heroes that are 379 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,880 stronger in one format compared to the other. 380 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,720 It's a challenging task to design your cards for them to be 381 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,200 balanced in both of those formats. 382 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,560 And we've seen them in sometimes like sort of fail to design then 383 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,280 in a way that's balanced for one format and not the other. 384 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,920 Yeah, the only like saving grace is some of the power cards that 385 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:53,080 they've been designing lately requires some sort of quest to 386 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,360 be met. Like for instance, failing at 387 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:57,960 the crown would be insane if it said like each player put a card 388 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,560 from the hand on the bottom when you decompose. 389 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,520 But the fact that you need a threshold of earth cards to be 390 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:09,040 able to get the power buff too makes it a lot less overbearing. 391 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,320 But they haven't always done that. 392 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,720 Yeah, you have to read your engines a bit before you get the 393 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,320 full power of your cards or the full power of your hero. 394 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,840 That's a pretty easy way to do it. 395 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,000 You know, It's something that I'm not surprised. 396 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:24,880 LSS like utilizes very often. So one thing I want to discuss 397 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,600 today, and we might not be able to get any conclusive answers 398 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,080 because none of us actually work at Legend Story Studios yet yet. 399 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,560 But how much work do we think they put into designing and 400 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,640 practicing and balancing for each of these different formats? 401 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,960 Because we know they have classic instructed. 402 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,000 That's their favorite format. We know they put a lot of time 403 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,720 and concern into Classic Constructed, but they also have 404 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,880 Blitz, Living, Legend, Commoner, Ultimate, Pit Fight, as well as 405 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,320 Draft and Sealed for each of their limited environments. 406 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,120 I think they put a lot of effort into draft because I think so 407 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:01,040 much of their dev work has to go into balancing for draft and 408 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,640 creating the cards for draft in limited environments. 409 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,360 And then probably classic constructed is their second one 410 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:08,960 that they spend the most dev time on. 411 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,600 I actually I would say that was that is my hot take. 412 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,000 I think they spend more time designing for limited than they 413 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,360 do for classic constructed. You know, I think that's 414 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:20,680 actually kind of Fair only because draft takes a lot of 415 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,880 time to get it the balance just right, right? 416 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,680 I think also like the shape and resource curves and the amounts 417 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,480 of everything, like I think they're just way more goes into 418 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,720 it because Designing Limited is designing the set. 419 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,360 Well, like, I mostly I agree with that list that I think 420 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:40,080 there are formats that LSS has chosen to not worry about when 421 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,040 it comes to like what cards they print. 422 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,240 However, I wouldn't put Blitz on that list if only because we 423 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,880 have seen LSS specifically print heroes only meant for Blitz. 424 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,320 You know, when they print young only heroes, I have to assume 425 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,560 that they're testing those heroes, they're building decks 426 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,120 with those heroes before they're released and then seeing what 427 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:02,000 they can do in at least Blitz before they like, put it out 428 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,960 into the main world. To be fair, I think they are 429 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,960 moving away from that, as we've seen by their push to try to 430 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,800 print all those young only heroes with adult versions. 431 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,600 That's true. I think the last one we saw was, 432 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,640 was it Arachne solitary confinement? 433 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,200 Yeah, which would have been like a lot. 434 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,600 That was a while ago. Outsiders. 435 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,360 There is that one slipped through the cracks as the quote 436 00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:22,320 UN quote adult version even though they have slightly 437 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:27,040 different text boxes. But it's so far as they talked 438 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,280 about wanting to put Benji in part that miss failed and 439 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,360 wanting to put data doll and bright lights. 440 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,880 The fact that we saw Kasai got an adult version like just 441 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,120 consistently. I think they are trying to 442 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:42,000 replace young only heroes with and give them adult versions. 443 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:48,000 So I don't know how much they're still designing solely for 444 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,760 Blitz, but I think what is actually good about all of these 445 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,040 decks sharing the same card pool is that the same guiding 446 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,160 principles of card design will keep things balanced across all 447 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,520 the formats. Like as long as your red Commons 448 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,640 with no go again can only generate 4 points of offensive 449 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,600 value by playing it, it is an OK card right? 450 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,480 Yeah, that's true. There's a lot of overlap between 451 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,720 what makes a card balanced and constructed and what makes a 452 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,240 card balanced and blitz, you know? 453 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,200 So I think they only really need to pay attention when there is 454 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,680 something about the format that would break the parody. 455 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,160 So I think that was the Earth heroes and their decomposed 456 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,520 limit, right? They had to actually take a look 457 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,360 at and test, well, what number should this be? 458 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:38,080 How quickly should this be happening in the faster blitz 459 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,640 format? Right, that was kind of a 460 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,760 radical when they decided Florian Inverdants only need 4 461 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,480 cards in banish for their young hero versions, but the adult 462 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,200 heroes need 8. It's literally the only time 463 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,640 we've seen heroes printed in young and old together have 464 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,640 different texts. I was also going to say, look at 465 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,120 one of the unbannings that they did. 466 00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:01,920 They did end up undoing it, but one of the unbannings in the 467 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,800 past that was very interesting to me was drone brutality in 468 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,000 blitz. Because they're like, look, if 469 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,480 blitz is just this incredibly fast format where aggro 470 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,240 dominates, can we reintroduce this thing that causes longer 471 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,760 games? Can this actually be OK in a 472 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,760 blitz format that's way faster and way more aggro oriented 473 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:24,360 then, say, CC, where Drone of Brutality is an absolute fucking 474 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:25,960 monster? That would ruin the game. 475 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,360 Yeah. And they gave it a season and 476 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:35,760 turns out, yeah, it was still pretty rough, but they tested 477 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,760 it. So I do think that they give 478 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,080 some attention to blitz. I think they'd certainly word 479 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,760 some cards so that it is more UPF playable right? 480 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,560 By being able to target any heroes or however many heroes 481 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,600 lost life this turn. Think about Vincent's hero 482 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,400 ability actually scales really nicely. 483 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,520 If you can throw an attack at the player at your right and the 484 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,120 left and if they and if everyone takes damage, then you're 485 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:03,880 deathly whales. Make 3 room chants and you're 486 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,680 deathly delight gains you three. Life now like that is fun. 487 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,800 It is fun to see that interaction and then take it 488 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,360 into UPF because the wording works for it. 489 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,400 So I think they maybe have like a team member who's like tasked 490 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,120 with keeping their eye open and it's like, hey, if we change 491 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:24,200 that wording to this, it can actually be better for UPF and 492 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,600 more interesting there. And it doesn't change how it 493 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,520 works in classic constructed at all. 494 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,040 And then they go make that change. 495 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,120 Hey oh Jimmy, do you like UPF? Would this be cool? 496 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,680 Yeah, Jimmy, do your UPF check and for a week he just like 497 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,920 reads all the cards. I definitely want to talk about 498 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,240 UPF, but I actually want to pivot a little bit back to what 499 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,960 you're saying about the balance overlap between Woods and CCI. 500 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,960 Think you're really on to something there because if you 501 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,560 look at the ban list from CC and Blitz, a lot of the cards banned 502 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,080 and Blitz like we just saw Zephyr needle, right? 503 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,200 Are there cards that have either been talked about banned in CC 504 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,160 or already were banned in C previously and they just decided 505 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,160 to wait in Blitz for whatever reason to see if it's OK because 506 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,240 there is a little bit of difference. 507 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,000 But like it happens multiple times where they're like, look, 508 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,360 this was bad in CC and Blitz wasn't like churning through 509 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:14,840 this meta. Game was still trying to figure 510 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,120 it out because there aren't as many players and they eventually 511 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,000 figured out it's it's broken there. 512 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,600 Yep, just like it was broken in CC, you know, and there's a 513 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,120 couple of cards that like are abandoned Blitz, but not CC For 514 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:27,640 the most part. It's like the same list. 515 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,280 You know they have the same balancing. 516 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,200 The very, very similar balancing, yes. 517 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,000 Like when they did the book burnings, they're just like, 518 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,840 look guys, we've decided we want the entire fucking game to move 519 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,240 away from these cards, so we're taking them away from both 520 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:49,200 banned lists. A Cilio with Toma Fine doll, my 521 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:55,560 beloved, gone too soon. So we've talked about the cost 522 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,200 and time and resources for a company to design around 523 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,600 multiple formats, but now I kind of want to shift it in the other 524 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,840 side of the coin, the benefit of having multiple formats in the 525 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,480 game. Yeah, because like if this is 526 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,960 taking a bunch more time and a bunch more money, then why do 527 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,600 it? Yeah. 528 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,760 Is it worth it? Everyone plays CC anyway right? 529 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,120 Like here in Socal all the armories are CC armories, right? 530 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,760 Basically, yeah, we don't have a lot of blitz players or commoner 531 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,360 players in our local meta. I mean, we can play online, of 532 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:36,680 course, but 1 I think the first reason why I think it's really 533 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,800 good to have these alternate formats is because CC is not the 534 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,960 most approachable format for newer players. 535 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,360 I think it's good to have these stepping stone formats like 536 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,360 blitz and commoner, especially where you can introduce players 537 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,360 to the game in a lower stakes environment. 538 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,720 And that way they can decide that they actually love the game 539 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,320 and they're willing to invest in ACC deck because to play classic 540 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,480 constructed kind of it costs like probably at least 100 or 541 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,880 $200 even to play more casually. And if you wanted to have a 542 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,160 really like top tier deck, it might cost more like 4 or $500 543 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,040 if you haven't like made any of the initial investments off the 544 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,600 bat. Would you guys agree with that 545 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,080 kind of investment? Whereas like a blitz deck might 546 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,040 cost like $50 or common or would cost much less than that even. 547 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,840 It also depends on the class. Like there's just a lot of 548 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,680 nuance with the price of decks. I know people like saying, oh, 549 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,360 Nu was a $2000 deck. I'm like, yeah, if you shove 550 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,360 every, you know, generic majestic that's good in the game 551 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,840 and codex of Frailty and stuff. But if you play casually, you 552 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,160 can get it down pretty low, Yeah. 553 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,280 Yeah, like sink blows instead of shelters. 554 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,880 Right, exactly. I would also say that in blitz 555 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,000 it is easier to play at a slightly lower power level and 556 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000 probably get away with it in muscle metas. 557 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,360 Because a lot of times the numbers do just a good job as 558 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,520 the powerful disruption effects you'd find on CNC or whatever. 559 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,000 Yeah, And certainly if you're going to say a Battle hardened, 560 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,600 a blitz Battle Hardened, yeah, you want the top tier deck. 561 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,440 But if you're just playing at your armories, you don't need 562 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,920 all that jazz. I mean, I, I've, I myself when I 563 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,240 take long breaks from flesh and blood or when I see new players 564 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,320 return from breaks, I always say just bring an Armory deck for a 565 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,440 few weeks. Like you don't need to start 566 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,880 buying the the latest staples that just came out. 567 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,240 Just play, you know, get back to the foundations of flesh and 568 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,200 blood. You're going to lose if you buy 569 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,520 all the expensive shit anyway, so you might as well lose and 570 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,400 not have as much capital invested upfront. 571 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,960 So yeah, I just really encourage people picking up like the Bree 572 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,840 Cons. I think the Armory decks have 573 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,000 helped to make the game approachable and maybe that's 574 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,840 why we've seen even less players playing like blitz and commoner 575 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,320 because the way to get invested into the game is like there's a 576 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,640 different ladder other than these alternative. 577 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,040 Formats, Yeah, very successful marketing campaign for sure. 578 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,240 I still think that blitz and commoner do have the appeal of 579 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,320 like you can make an extra deck for your buddy to get them into 580 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,440 the game a lot easier with blitz and commoner. 581 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,240 Oh yeah. What was it? 582 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,640 We just had two new players show up at Spell Hold this week, and 583 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,120 they're talking about how they were playing with a bunch of 584 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,320 blitz stacks, and that's how they were getting ready to show 585 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,840 up to an Armory for the first time. 586 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,440 And when they showed up to the Armory, they bought the Armory 587 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,880 deck, they sleeved up and left. So they played with that week 588 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,480 and it was great. They had a great time. 589 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,440 I also specifically always bring an Armory deck so that when I 590 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,960 pair into one of those players, I don't crush them with my $1000 591 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,800 Aurora deck. I'm like, yeah, I'll also play 592 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,280 with a $50 starter deck and like, you know, then we're 593 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,880 balanced. But Dennis goes, oh, you like 594 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,400 blitz decks? Give me a second. 595 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:44,000 And he walks outside and carries in a crate of blitz decks that 596 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,160 he made just from chaff. Wow. 597 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,120 All of them individually sealed and wrapped up and said, go 598 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,040 through that. Take however many you want. 599 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,440 That's also How I Met Dennis when I first arrived at Finch. 600 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,960 I in addition to the three other people that were there, Dennis 601 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,000 was one of the ones who was just passing a blitz decks. 602 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,000 So he's been doing that for a while. 603 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,240 He's a, he's a really good community leader in that sense. 604 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,160 So it's very easy to put together Blitz 6 and use it as 605 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,440 an entry point, and that's why it's important. 606 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,800 I think one other thing that I really like about say, commoner 607 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,640 and definitely to an extent Blitz that I don't think I have, 608 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,000 I see as much in this classic instructed would be that it's a 609 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,840 little bit more Wild West of a format. 610 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,240 You could probably say this about Ultimate Pit Fight 2, but 611 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,840 with classic constructed, I think LSS knows what is strong 612 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,040 and knows what they want to be strong. 613 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,000 You know, like they've done this twice in the last year where the 614 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,880 community gets a hold of the new set and they start building 615 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,120 decks and they have the like, oh, Zephyr Neil is really strong 616 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,280 with pick up, pick up sticks and run. 617 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,600 And then the community's like sharing it all and LSS goes, we 618 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,840 already knew about that. We already knew it was strong 619 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,040 and now it's banned. You know, like they've already 620 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,960 done the testing. They can tell us like which 621 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,400 decks are good. They just don't want to tell us 622 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,600 because that's part of the fun, right? 623 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,160 But I think like the fact that LSS has their thumb on the pulse 624 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,520 of the format is both good for the format, but also it can be 625 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,680 like, I don't want to say stifling, but it's nice to be 626 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,200 able to play commoner where I think LSS that does not have 627 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,120 their eyes on it. And every time you come up with 628 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,720 a new strong deck idea, it can feel like it's yours. 629 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,320 You know I. Mean, I think they're, they have 630 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:31,280 their eyes on it. It's just, they know you're not 631 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,760 going to get in that much trouble, you know, and but if 632 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,000 they hear a vase shattering, they're, they're going to run 633 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,120 into the room and say, what have you been doing in here? 634 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,760 That's a good metaphor. Yeah, it's a mom with a lot of 635 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,720 kids, and there's a problem kid, and the problem kid is classic 636 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,400 instructed. But they also just gave us a 637 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,800 vase when they when they unprint Unbanned ball lightning in 638 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,520 commoner. And when you give the kid a new 639 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,240 toy, you watch him for a little bit. 640 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,680 They're going to be safe and responsible with that. 641 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,000 That's so fucking funny. We are the children and James 642 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,920 Light is the tired dad just desperately begging us to not 643 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,920 hurt each other. I think there's been at least we 644 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,000 talked about on the pot is if there's a problem with a lack of 645 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,800 brewing in flesh and blood that because it's so competitively 646 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,600 minded, people don't feel brave enough to reach out and try new 647 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,920 strategies, new combos, because there is like a really big hoop 648 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,600 you have to jump through for a deck to be good. 649 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,280 You know, you have to be able to bring your opponent from 40 life 650 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,760 to 0, even if they're blocking you a bunch. 651 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,719 You have to have consistent strategies. 652 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,400 And with the lower life totals, that's less important. 653 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,760 You can like leak some games with your random like 2 card 654 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,400 combos lining up together and you can also lose in the same 655 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,719 way by not finding them. You know, it's, it's a little 656 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,400 bit more forgiving for you to, to build around. 657 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,560 So Brewer is being attracted to Blitzer commoner. 658 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,080 And you also want to try your ideas really quickly, right? 659 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,360 Like if you're like, OK, I think I have this really fun idea. 660 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,480 I pulled it together in like 10 minutes on a whim. 661 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,160 I'm not going to sit down for an hour to play it out. 662 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,760 You know, it'd be more fun to just like, play a few games for 663 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,400 1015 minutes. The very last thing that I want 664 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:20,200 to point out is that I do know that LSS does not ultimately put 665 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,760 that much effort into curating the way that blitz and commoner 666 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,280 and UPF run. And I know this because, well, 667 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,560 to be honest, we don't know what is happening behind the scenes. 668 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,520 But when I typically hear about interesting blitz and commoner 669 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,800 ideas, it's from the YouTube channel DICE Commando. 670 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,160 It's from people in the community who are dedicated to 671 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,480 those formats and who care about those formats. 672 00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:48,840 DICE Commando recently put out a video in terms of when this 673 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,920 episode will come be coming out. Maybe it was 2 or so weeks ago, 674 00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:56,520 two or three weeks ago that said that Blitz should actually 675 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,520 increase its card pool. Not deck size, but the available 676 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,920 card pool so that there can be more tech options to deal with 677 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,440 different strategies because of the increasing hero pool. 678 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,360 And that was a fascinating idea. He had solid arguments to back 679 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,520 it up and I would not be surprised if at the end of this 680 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,400 skirmish season or before next skirmish season those rules are 681 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,080 incorporated. And I think that's because the 682 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,600 community has a better idea of what's going on in blitz. 683 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,880 You mean the size of the deck list? 684 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,760 Like yes you still bring in 40 cards, but you can have like a 685 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,160 60 card list instead of 52. I think his specific number was 686 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,520 56 instead of 52 or something along those lines. 687 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,760 OK. But yes. 688 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:42,520 Cool. That makes a lot of sense to me. 689 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,080 And we've seen in the past that LSS is willing to change the 690 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,120 rules set for Blitz, you know, like it used to be you couldn't 691 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,560 have any sideboard cards. Main deck. 692 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,200 And they're like, OK, we need a sideboard. 693 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:02,040 Yes, that's about all I got for my pitch. 694 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,440 I think next and Blue Pitch Clerk's gonna talk about 695 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,120 skirmish season and why you should sign up for your local 696 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,360 skirmish. Yeah, so skirmish seasons 697 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,120 definitely feel like the competitive season of flesh and 698 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,640 blood. That is the weird cousin at the 699 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,560 party, right? I'm going with a lot of family 700 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:27,080 metaphors today in that, yeah, he's there and you'll like hang 701 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,160 out with him at dinner, but you're not like going to spend a 702 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,800 bunch of time with him, right? It's just kind of odd. 703 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,720 He can he can go over there and play by himself. 704 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,640 And I would say I don't know a ton of people who play in 705 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,280 skirmish season, right? Skirmish events are typically a 706 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,800 lot smaller and I don't always hear about my local stores 707 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,600 getting a skirmish, but skirmish seasons are actually very very 708 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,320 healthy for the game and very important to take part in one 709 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,600 the rewards are fucking. Cool. 710 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,520 Yeah. Cold foil channel, like frigid. 711 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,200 Come on. Come, come. 712 00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:02,040 Like everybody's going to want that card. 713 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,600 I was. I was really happy to get my 714 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,200 cold foil channel on that heroic. 715 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:14,120 Yeah, I think also the young art, like I'm no shade to any of 716 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,160 the artists who have done any of the work on Flesh and Blood Hero 717 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,320 cards. Sometimes the young art is just 718 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,280 better. It's just better sometimes. 719 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,800 Do you have an example? Tara. 720 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:34,080 Tara only has young. Yeah, it's a fucking guy. 721 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:37,840 He does. He does have good art. 722 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,640 I'm not gonna lie. Tara does have insanely good 723 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,600 art. Very flavorful tree. 724 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,360 Daddy's cool, but. It makes me think of Marcus 725 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,520 Brown local who really likes Betsy's young hero art cuz in 726 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,440 the young art she's smiling and also she's like leaning on a 727 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,560 beast that. She's just sat down. 728 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,880 Yeah, the Betsy young art's so much better. 729 00:38:57,240 --> 00:39:02,240 I also think that young old him is a better art than then old 730 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,360 him. Grandfather of eternity. 100% 731 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,600 agree. Old him, grandfather of 732 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,040 eternity. I'm like that man's about to 733 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:08,840 die. Yeah. 734 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,240 He's he looks like he doesn't complete sentences anymore. 735 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:22,480 Family metaphor. Also, skirmishes are a little 736 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,760 bit more easygoing in terms of competition. 737 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,760 They're less mentally fatiguing. This is typically things that 738 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,360 people also just say about blitz in general. 739 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,840 But if you are someone who's trying to take that next step in 740 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,160 your play, right, if you think of the tears of play as like 741 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,400 there's kitchen table, sometimes you're messing up rules a bunch. 742 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,480 Then you go to armories and like one of the players there will be 743 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,200 a judge. So they'll like remind you of 744 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,160 like, hey, make sure you're showing your resources, hey, and 745 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,640 make sure that that's not actually how that card resolves. 746 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,320 So there's that going on at armories. 747 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,480 So you're getting a little bit more serious rather than jumping 748 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,920 right up to like RTNS and PQS. I think Skirmish season is 749 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,280 actually a way better next step. Absolutely from the Armory 750 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,600 level. Yeah, yeah, I feel like Flesh 751 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,040 and Blood just kind of needs more weekend events, yeah that 752 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,800 aren't like qualifiers or. Yeah, it's one of the reasons 753 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,640 why I love the age so much, right, Because it's a place to 754 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,000 go compete. But it feels a little bit lower 755 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,800 stakes and I don't have to get first. 756 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,960 There's not as much pressure on going to top four. 757 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,760 I can get 16th and get some points. 758 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,160 Yeah, skirmish season feels very similar, right? 759 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,840 You can go and compete and be in the competitive environment, but 760 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,200 it's blitz. The games are over quicker. 761 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,960 You can just be like, yeah, he drew the nuts and just, you 762 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,880 know, brush off bad games. You can go to an event and have 763 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:49,760 it end by 4:00 PM. You can have a whole other part 764 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,760 of your day. Yeah, imagine having dinner at a 765 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,120 reasonable time, bro. I could not be me. 766 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:02,520 The ability to eat dinner, to have evening plans on the same 767 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,520 day that you're going to a flesh and blood tournament 768 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,400 unparalleled. If you have not had the 769 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:14,040 experience of competing in Flesh and Blood and having the rest of 770 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,680 your day available, play in your skirmish season. 771 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,440 I also want to point out. That right now the meta game for 772 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,760 Blitz, like the meta game for CC, is pretty open. 773 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,760 There's not huge dominant forces that are just completely 774 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,520 steamrolling everybody now. I suppose we'll truly find that 775 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,600 out in the skirmish season, right? 776 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,080 Because Haunted just came out. Maybe Arachne Marionettes just 777 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,400 fucking cracked? Or Slippy. 778 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,080 Slippy was already strong before Haunted, maybe now Slippy is 779 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,840 just insane. Fang was also extremely strong 780 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,160 in draft because attack reactions with lower life totals 781 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,040 is very strong combination. So maybe he, but I think the 782 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,120 larger point that I think you're alluding to Clark is like 783 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,200 there's no more Kano, there's no more Ryanar, Briar or Dash. 784 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,520 And those I feel like we're some of the biggest offenders for the 785 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,400 format. I played a lot of Ryanar. 786 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,680 That was basically the only thing I played in Blitz for like 787 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,520 a year. Because whenever there's 788 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,080 skirmish season and I want those promos, I'm gonna kill you at 789 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,920 turn one, turn 2. I don't want to play that long, 790 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,880 you know? And I think Kano was something 791 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,520 similar like like the realist skilled Kano players will just 792 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,960 kill you really quickly get it done, but at least you don't 793 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,760 have objectively strong heroes doing objectively broken things. 794 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,720 Yeah, Reinhard's like quad intimidate deal 20 damage is not 795 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,040 in the game anymore. Kano just randomly hitting the 796 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,520 nuts off the top is not in the game anymore. 797 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:41,320 Yep, there are still ridiculously powerful agro 798 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,760 heroes I know, like flicker, wisp combo. 799 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,040 Aurora can very much just be like, I got Arsenal and you 800 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,320 didn't disrupt me, Flicker wisp, arc lightning, break all my 801 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,360 equipment. Here's a 30 damage turn that you 802 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,080 can't reasonably survive through. 803 00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:01,480 That can still happen, but it's still fairly rare or it comes 804 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,720 with big downsides, right? It's not quite the same level 805 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,360 and I think defensive decks have started getting a little bit 806 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,360 stronger talking back to our red pitch or circling back to our 807 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,040 red pitch. Crown of Seeds getting unbanned. 808 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,040 The Earth heroes are going to be really, really good at stalling 809 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,760 out the game with that. Absolutely. 810 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,160 And I think that could make a very big difference in the speed 811 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:30,200 of the blitz format, which I think typically if we're going 812 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,800 from like hyper aggro rules to now we need to all be a little 813 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,000 bit more mid rangey soup. Oh baby, how fucking back are 814 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,360 we? Soup is when most heroes end up 815 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,840 being viable. It isn't the best meta to 816 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,200 probably exist forever. Like we like having meta shake 817 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,240 UPS where like there is a dominant deck that we all need 818 00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:53,720 to play against and and alternating back and forth. 819 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,400 But it's good to have a nice soupy meta where everyone's just 820 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,200 getting along in the bra. Not to go off on a tangent, but 821 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,160 I also like the fact that chronic seeds are being 822 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,880 unabandoned Blitz because maybe it's a testing period for LSS to 823 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,440 see if it could exist in CC very soon. 824 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,640 Oh. You know, that's something we 825 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,960 didn't talk about in yellow pitch, how blitz can oftentimes 826 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,240 be a proving ground for classic constructed. 827 00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:24,640 It's kind of not unlike the drone of brutality. 828 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,120 Yeah, I don't. Know I don't think that. 829 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,160 Like that kind of can never exist in CC, but maybe ground of 830 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,680 C they did once already. Yeah. 831 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,920 The final point that I'm going to make for why you should play 832 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:46,040 in your skirmish season is that in a very important part of 833 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,880 enjoying a game like Flesh and Blood is giving yourself new 834 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,720 experiences. If you play one deck all the 835 00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:57,800 time for every event at 2:00 to 3:00 armories a week and every 836 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,520 single competitive event, you are going to burn out on that 837 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,720 experience. Sorry, most people are going to 838 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:07,800 burn out on that experience. Some people are just built deaf 839 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,600 but. Yeah, like, I know Talon really 840 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,080 enjoyed playing Riptide in blitz because there's like ways to 841 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,000 play Riptide that you just can't do in constructed, But he got to 842 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,200 experience his favorite hero, but in a completely new context 843 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,120 and kind of like fall in love with it all over again. 844 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,680 Yeah, you got to mix it up. You got to give yourself new and 845 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,240 different experiences. For example, I play Assassin in 846 00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:34,480 blitz, but I don't play it in classic constructed one. 847 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,560 I got to spend a little bit less money and only get the the two 848 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,960 playsets of Bonds and Persuasive Prognosis and Justinic. 849 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,040 Yeah, you saved like 33% of your full price. 850 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,920 I I saved a surprising amount of money by by playing in blitz 851 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,080 instead of CC. Also two codexes instead of 852 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,800 three codexes. Yeah I I saved a good amount of 853 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,480 money by just saying Assassin is my blitz deck. 854 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,480 But also, when I play Assassin in Blitz, that's when I get the 855 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,360 experience of playing Assassin. Yeah, I don't get it in Classic 856 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,120 Constructed. So I get to play Assassin in a 857 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,440 lower stakes, nicer, easier way. And that means it's going to be 858 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,400 more refreshing to me when I do get to play the rune blades that 859 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:24,040 I love in Classic constructed. It's kind of like, I know that 860 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,400 when I think about new formats, I'm like, do I really want to, 861 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,400 like, learn a whole another format? 862 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,800 It feels like I'm learning a whole another card game, you 863 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,360 know? Yeah, I don't need a whole 864 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,720 another card game. But what if I told you this card 865 00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:39,360 game is just as fun as flesh and blood because it is flesh and 866 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,680 blood? Yeah. 867 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,600 It's just is refreshing. And it gives you that feeling of 868 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,840 newness that can like make you go back with a new set of eyes, 869 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,280 a fresh perspective, and a fresh like palette for going back to 870 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,200 CC. Yeah, Especially if like the 871 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,920 meta in CC is just terrible and you're like, I want to go back 872 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:04,200 to simpler times, so I'll play. I don't know, Zen or not Zen? 873 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,640 Zen. Bad choice. 874 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,120 What's a derpy hero? I'll play dated doll and Blade. 875 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,400 So let's switch it up a little bit. 876 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,200 Play my little wacky 3 card 3 card. 877 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,200 Hero. I'm gonna boost micropressor off 878 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:23,200 the top and be fucking broken. And that kind of Speaking of 879 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:28,040 nostalgia, Living Legend is one of the formats in the skirmish 880 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:33,440 this time and there are lots of heroes and individual cards that 881 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,880 we have seen leave the classic constructed game that you might 882 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,040 have fond memories over. You know, Art of War was fun to 883 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,880 slam on the field and you can go back and play Art of War in 884 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,880 living Legend format and it was strong in classic constructed. 885 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,440 It's still strong in living Legend. 886 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,720 And they're combinations of cards that have never existed in 887 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:53,160 classic Constructed like Aurora and Toma. 888 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,440 Find all that you can play with in Living Legend, Even the 889 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,800 heroes that you have already played before but you haven't 890 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,640 had a chance to because they rotate it out. 891 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,120 You can go back and play them. I know that deck that you used 892 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,880 to play is still in your house somewhere. 893 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,520 You just have to find it. Sleeve it up and let them know 894 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,320 like you've always loved her and you miss her every day and you 895 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,080 can't wait to play her again. It's a skirmish. 896 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,560 Go, go. Run to the airport, my taxi flow 897 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,400 through the red. Light. 898 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,520 You mean I can play my explosive growth Briar? 899 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,160 You're loose now. Absolutely. 900 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,800 Yeah, with dust blade. Yeah. 901 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,320 Wait, is that legal? It's legal. 902 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,040 Living what? Yeah. 903 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,800 Oh shit dude, it's. Also not that good. 904 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,960 That's why it's legal. Warmongers got printed like 905 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,520 warmongers is restricted in the living legend, never mind dust. 906 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,800 Blade is back room. Blade is back, baby. 907 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,040 They only get one copy of the fuck you dust blade car I. 908 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,080 Think Crucible might set me up to win a Living Legend skirmish? 909 00:48:55,160 --> 00:49:00,120 Hell yeah, that's pretty cool. I also want one more thing on 910 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,040 the side of why Living Legend is fresh and wonderful. 911 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,040 If you played those old heroes and you're wondering what they 912 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:11,520 could look like with new cards, The chain list that is all about 913 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,840 the room gate cards and like destroying the soul shackles 914 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,000 using your Deadwood dirt. Oh my God. 915 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,680 It's such a cool fucking list. Yeah, I have never. 916 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:27,040 I have really not liked chain. I like the idea of chain and 917 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,520 then every single time that I like think about sitting down to 918 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,400 play them, I'm like actually, no, fuck this shit like I don't 919 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,480 want to have to worry about my pitch stack like that. 920 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,640 I don't want to have to worry about like milling 6 cards off 921 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,920 the top. All that sounds like a nightmare 922 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,720 to me, but like creating a token for free go again and then 923 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:47,680 destroying that token for three rune champs that lets me throw a 924 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,280 three for seven for free for my bandage zone. 925 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:57,120 That sounds so sick and like so much fun to set up, and I love 926 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,800 that. I love how new cards can make 927 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,920 old heroes who have already hit Living Legend get completely 928 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,880 reimagined. Also, I just lost Viscerai. 929 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,760 Well, I'm sure I won't be on Viscerai and care about playing 930 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,840 him in the Living Legend format right now. 931 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,520 Maybe later this year. I'm going to be like, you know 932 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,440 what, I'm going to sleep up my Viscerai again. 933 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,440 Yeah, I can't wait for the cause. 934 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,280 One thing IA little bit of drool or here. 935 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,880 One thing I really like about Magic the Gathering still is I 936 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,560 believe it's called Legacy, where everything's broken. 937 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,840 Like there's a lot of power in the format and in that way a lot 938 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,000 of stuff is viable. Like the playing field is 939 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,120 surprisingly wide. Mind you, I haven't paid 940 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,640 attention to it in a while, but when I used to watch it 941 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,160 religiously, that's what it felt like. 942 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,000 And I think living in Legend could be that way, assuming we 943 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,920 find the right amount of cards we can give Starvo without 944 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,640 giving everyone else specifically like Moment. 945 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,520 That we finally just decided that Starvo was a mistake, even 946 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,880 in living legend. I mean, I, I think LSS needs to 947 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,640 get comfortable with the idea of like choice banning, where like 948 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,800 if you play Starval, you cannot play these cards and just call 949 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,960 it a day. But overall, I am excited to see 950 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,320 like, you know, eventually Bolton when he gets asked here 951 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,440 and being able to play against all these other heroes that he 952 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,160 was getting stomped by previously. 953 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,080 But with these new cards like that might be fun down the line. 954 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,920 Yeah. This is what I could have been. 955 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,040 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 956 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,800 All right, that is why you should play in Skirmish season. 957 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,920 It is fun, it's refreshing, it's lower stakes, and there's some 958 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,800 really wonderful rewards that you can get and community that 959 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,080 you can find. Absolutely. 960 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,320 It's the kind of thing where, like, there's a little hump to 961 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,960 get over where you actually have to build a deck for it, but 962 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,080 you're going to have fun. Once you actually decide to put 963 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,880 that little time and energy, you're going to get what you get 964 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,280 out of it. Yeah. 965 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:59,240 Definitely. OK, I think it is now time to 966 00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:01,440 move on to our arsenal. Zone. 967 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,360 I'll do that. And listeners, if this is the 968 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,960 first time you're joining us for the podcast ever, the Arsenal 969 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,640 Zone is where we pick a card, a card that we like, a card that 970 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,600 we hate, a card that we like to hate. 971 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,880 Either way, we're going to talk about it right now, and we're 972 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,200 going to start it off with a Patreon submission. 973 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,440 That's right, we're going to give a shout out to a Patreon 974 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,680 member every episode. Even if, like, God forbid, 975 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,400 someday we don't have an Arsenal zone, we'll still give it a 976 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,040 Patreon shout out even if that happens. 977 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,480 Yep, and not that we would ever do that for any reason. 978 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,120 Arsenal Zone is one of the best parts of our podcast. 979 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,440 When we did Arsenal Zone the episode, it performed great. 980 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,760 We should totally do another one of those. 981 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,360 You should. So without further ado. 982 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:53,800 Let's make our selection. We have put all of the names of 983 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,880 the $5 and $10 subscribers who have given us a card and their 984 00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,520 little snippets. We have put them into a big 985 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,040 list. We have assigned them a number 986 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,440 and now we will roll the dice to the side. 987 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:10,600 Natural noise, and it's Henny. Ha, fun fact, he's been 988 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,320 submitting null time zone for I think the past four or five 989 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,720 episodes. Yeah, I got to say Han love you 990 00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:19,600 buddy. Little annoying that you kept, 991 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,280 you kept. There are other. 992 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,360 Cars that exist. Partially because. 993 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,200 We got that AT and was like I don't have to think of a new 994 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,920 card copy paste. Well, also like. 995 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:35,280 We love Han. Han is the artist who has done. 996 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:41,320 He did the Crucible logo, he did our logo, he's done our banner. 997 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,760 So if you see like any Pidim branded art, it is Han who has 998 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,040 has done that work. Yeah, so shout out to Han for 999 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,880 the art. He also wins all of our local 1000 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,080 armories. So he submitted a few blurbs so 1001 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,200 I'm going to read all of them. The 1st relevant 1 he says 1002 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,680 stopping a person from playing what you think their biggest 1003 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,800 threat against you for two to three turns feels great. 1004 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,680 And acro matchups deal only needs the opponent to falter 1005 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,320 once. And for teclo stopping an 1006 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,280 opponent gives set up time. Also super fair because Mex 1007 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,960 can't target Arsenal if the opponent stores the named card 1008 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,440 and they all say that nine turns of back-to-back coverage. 1009 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,640 Enough said. And I want to also highlight the 1010 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:25,160 fact that Ben Friedman, who is also part of the Pitchatumu 1011 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,760 family, played all three null time zones against me as Zen. 1012 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,040 And I think that's the first time he's beat me as tag low 1013 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,160 against my Zen. Yeah, so it's it is more 1014 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,800 impactful than I thought it was. I still think it's like a really 1015 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,120 really niche hate piece, but it can be used to great effect if 1016 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,960 you like have a really good understanding of your decks, of 1017 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,560 your opponent's deck and and strategy. 1018 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,520 It's very similar to like Censor, right? 1019 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,560 Like it's the if you know what the opponent is playing, you can 1020 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,080 definitely get a big reward off by pulling this off. 1021 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,000 Do remember that you can still play the card from Arsenal. 1022 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,360 Yeah, I was playing a Crucible game against Daniel and he 1023 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,080 played this as one of his Crucible cards, which means he 1024 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,560 had 10 copies of it and. The if the only for the other 1025 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,880 person only has 6 cards, so you can name one card and just take 1026 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,560 out a 6th of the opponent's deck. 1027 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,720 That's funny and. He's playing system reset for a 1028 00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:20,880 permanent lock. Oh wow so I could I was locked 1029 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,240 out of my entire deck. I could only play from arsenal 1030 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,440 and I lost that game. I kind of like threw it because 1031 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,920 it actually takes a long ass time to win this way because 1032 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,160 he's just swinging with his symbiosis shot and I'm blocking 1033 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,760 with my cards because I can't play them. 1034 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:42,360 But he also doesn't have a lot of blocking cards you just had 1035 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:43,200 like. Oh yeah. 1036 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,760 It was a really weird deck, but like it was working really well 1037 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,480 and you have to like type the names of all the cards and you 1038 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,480 have to keep track of which cards which you've already named 1039 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,240 off of null time zone. That's funny. 1040 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,120 Yeah, multiple copies of Null Time Zone actually seems like a 1041 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,360 bit of a nightmare. Yeah, I like how Han gave a 1042 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,600 mention of why this card is great for Dash IO right in the 1043 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,520 aggro deck. Just getting that extra little 1044 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,240 bit of space is all she really needs. 1045 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,920 Tecla with the setup time. I also want to suggest that this 1046 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,080 card is great for Max if you're playing Banksy, because if 1047 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,840 you're on Banksy baby, Oh no, just keep that in old time zone 1048 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,840 up forever. Hey, one for three, you still 1049 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,960 can't play your card. One for three, you still can't 1050 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,880 play your card. Bong bong, bong bong. 1051 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,240 And it's soon going to be a one for five wrench. 1052 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,800 Oh yeah. Though Banksy can only protect 1053 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,080 one of your two things. But I like that, right? 1054 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,200 Like the moment that you start getting multiple items out that 1055 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,080 you want to sit on the board for a while and then the opponent's 1056 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:48,040 like like, I really don't want that one to stick around, but 1057 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,000 I'm fine with that one. And like you can, you can flex 1058 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,240 based on the plan. It seems really, really cool. 1059 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,480 I like it. So thank you Han for the shout 1060 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,120 out. I know you were really wanting 1061 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,920 us to talk about this card, so I'm glad we got out of the way 1062 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,480 and you can make a new suggestion. 1063 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,880 Yeah, I can't wait to see what new suggestion he's gonna put in 1064 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,960 there. I can't wait to see what other 1065 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,080 mechanologist majestic item that you. 1066 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,160 Submit for the He also plays Victor that's. 1067 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,320 True. Victor Maine over here and thank 1068 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,640 you everyone else who submitted. Please keep submitting your 1069 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,440 ideas. We will get to yours at some 1070 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,720 points and we're excited to see what else you guys come up with. 1071 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,560 I normally try to stay away from cards that we've already talked 1072 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,840 about on our episode, but today I'm talking about Rosetta 1073 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,200 Thorne. Oh, I think it's so funny that 1074 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,760 it's been years since this card was printed. 1075 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,320 We've all known that it's been busted this entire time, and 1076 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,040 it's still getting banned out of format. 1077 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,400 What's next? Are they going to like 1078 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,160 restricted in Living Legend now because it's already rotated out 1079 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,080 of Classic instructions and Blitz, and now it's banned from 1080 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,520 commoner because this weapon is so good? 1081 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,240 It's one for four and it's split damage unprecedented for 1082 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,280 weapons. It's fucking crazy and I love 1083 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,560 this card and now I can't even play it in commoner. 1084 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,480 Yeah. That's so funny. 1085 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,360 One of the things that I heard is that Rosetta Thorne is the 1086 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:07,440 reason why they incorporated rotating out weapons with heroes 1087 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,160 with signature weapons. I don't know if that's true or 1088 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,720 not, but it makes sense. So true. 1089 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,640 Aren't we glad that we don't have to worry about Rosetta 1090 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,440 Thorn anymore? So I brought a copy to sign, and 1091 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,800 I'm going to give one to each of you. 1092 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,600 Here you go. Thank you, Fuzzy. 1093 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,800 For my card I'm talking about snatch. 1094 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,880 It's a red 04 that says on hit draw card. 1095 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,400 I'm talking about Snatch because I haven't had a copy of it to 1096 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,560 run at the past few armories in my room. 1097 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,960 Snatch list. Yeah, I have been Snatch list. 1098 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,600 I have been without snatch. Wow. 1099 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,960 And I really love this card. I love how it's one of the few 1100 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,680 common generics that's really, really good for an aggro deck. 1101 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:55,320 It's almost like a Ponder token in a way when it hits. 1102 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,800 Because very rarely will this have go again for you to 1103 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,200 actually play the card that you draw, but it's really nice for 1104 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,000 simply giving you an Arsenal card. 1105 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,320 I kind of love that because I think that is what Agradex need 1106 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,920 to start leaning towards with their card draw is consistency, 1107 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,400 turn over turn and giving them a little bit more flexibility to 1108 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,880 block and deal with disruption. So I think Snatch is a really, 1109 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,520 really cool card. I'm going to try to incorporate 1110 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,560 into more Agradex. I know that like I've seen some 1111 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,360 bang lists running it. Wow. 1112 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,240 I know that I've seen like even some inset lists running it. 1113 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,800 It's weird. Snatch is just sort of making 1114 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,160 its way into more lists because I think people are realizing how 1115 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,640 important it is to have an arsenal. 1116 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,320 Well, yeah, fucking Codex of Frailty is running every deck, 1117 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,760 yeah. And actually Codex of Frailty 1118 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,080 for a snatch? No, that'd be bad because Ponder 1119 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:50,080 and Snatch overlap. Yeah, that's my card. 1120 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,680 I don't give cards away so I'm just going to pass it over to. 1121 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,440 Dole. Y'all can get your own fucking 1122 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,680 snatches. I need mine. 1123 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:03,200 So for my card I'm choosing push forward which is A1 cost non 1124 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,960 attack action the blocks for three and it says your next 1125 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,400 weapon attack this turn gains +3 and if you have attacked with a 1126 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,600 weapon this turn your next attack this turn gains dominates 1127 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,960 with go again. And this was probably my 1128 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:22,680 favorite card on all of 2022 because I ran it in my Kasai 1129 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,240 Blitz list and with Kasai's reduction of her second sword 1130 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,080 attack, you would just use that extra resource for One Cause 1131 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,920 pumps. And this was my favorite card to 1132 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,840 pair it with. So I'd go like Centauri Sabre 1133 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,680 with Blade Runner into push forward for like a three card 1134 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:43,400 A10, but the second attack was always for 8 dominate which in 1135 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,160 blitz it's pretty good. And it helps you guarantee that 1136 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,040 copper. Exactly, especially on like a 1137 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,160 spoils of war turn super gas card. 1138 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,920 So just wanted to shout it out. It's one of my favorite comments 1139 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,840 and I'm still trying to figure out how to incorporate it in CC 1140 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,200 because I love playing with the card. 1141 01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,120 But yeah, that's pretty much it for me. 1142 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:04,400 Awesome, great shout outs. With all that being said, I 1143 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,120 think that's the end of today's episode. 1144 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,200 Thanks for listening everybody. Yeah, be sure to join the 1145 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,640 Patreon. We have Crucible pairings going 1146 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,080 live. I'm sure you can get added if 1147 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,720 you want to play with us. Otherwise, we have some live. 1148 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,920 Hangout dates that we've now scheduled where that's true if 1149 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,440 you want to test certain decks out, if you want to place in a 1150 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,280 draft with if you want to do like a draftmancer pod, right 1151 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,840 where like you actually know somebody in there and can talk 1152 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,960 to them like yeah or. If you want to play Crucible 1153 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,680 with us, that would be a good time to do it. 1154 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,800 Yeah, if you're like interested in Crucible. 1155 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,880 And these are for our $10 patrons. 1156 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,520 Yeah, I've really been enjoying that, the little bubble of 1157 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:45,160 Patreon people, just a, you know, closer or close knit group 1158 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,640 of people who are passionate about game design, which I love 1159 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:48,800 and. 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