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This week, AUS General gets 
drunk in Kiev, falls over three 

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times and then has a meeting 
with the Secretary of State. 

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Classified maps go missing on a 
train. 8 million anonymous crime

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tips turn out to be not that 
anonymous. 

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The FBI seizes A hackers group's
website, but the hackers were 

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already building new ones. 
And a Chrome extension you 

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probably use this week I did has
been quietly stealing money from

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you for months. 
Not me, I don't think. 

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Maybe I don't know, and 
company's house here in the UK 

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left the front door open for 
five months. 

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You could get in just by 
pressing back a few times. 

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It's been a week. 
Let's get into that and a whole 

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bunch more on this week's The 
Awareness angle. 

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With me, as always, is my 
partner in cybercrime 

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prevention. 
It is of course, Mr Luke 

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Pettigrew. 
How you doing, Luke? 

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Hey, I'm, yeah, I'm Tim off. 
Thank you. 

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How are you? 
I'm good. 

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Yeah. 
It's, it's been a week. 

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Lots of planning and scheduling 
and conversations. 

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It's great. 
Things are growing, but not 

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ready to announce any of it yet.
So yeah, what about you? 

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Just all good. 
Yeah, I've been pretty, pretty 

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quiet one for me, thankfully. 
Nice, right? 

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Should we get into it? 
Should we get on with it? 

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Yeah, let's go for. 
It OK, Don't forget all views 

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and opinions expressed by me or 
Luke on the show. 

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I own it and do not represent 
those of our employers. 

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So let's get into this week's 
breach of the week. 

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And this week's breach of the 
week is the former US general 

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who got drunk in Kiev, suffered 
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And then they've classified maps
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A watchdog finds. 
This is a story. 

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I saw this posted on Reddit and 
it's one of those that, like, it

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sounds made-up, but it's too 
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So a Department of Defence 
Inspector General report has 

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found that Major General Antonio
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military assistant efforts in 
Ukraine from Germany, committed 

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2 serious security breaches in 
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In March, he left classified 
maps on Auk Ukraine train after 

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bypassing required career 
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The documents were only 
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And then two months later, he 
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alcohol at a Kiev dinner, 
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subsequent falls and appeared 
visibly impaired at a meeting 

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with Secretary of State Blinken 
the next morning. 

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We don't really care about the 
drinking. 

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He's allowed to. 
Where's the, you know, this 

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isn't the alcohol awareness 
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drinking moderation, folks. 
This is the awareness angle 

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focusing on cybersecurity. 
It's that one leaving the maps, 

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leaving stuff on a train. 
That's like, wow. 

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Skipping the official process, 
the official protocol. 

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That's the scary 1, isn't it? 
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And no, I was going to say it's,
that's the reason I brought it 

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because it's just, it's unique. 
It's you know, that's the, 

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that's the angle on this. 
You know, it's not, again, not a

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massive breach. 
You could have had serious 

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implications, but it's not a 
massive breach. 

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But it's just another, it's, 
it's different. 

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This is another case of someone 
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following procedure. 
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And I remember in the news all 
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government have left CDs on 
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trains. 
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something like this has happened
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No, but yeah, it's just going to
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days to really hear about stuff 
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Physical. 
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obviously always online and 
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but maybe remember of the story 
many episodes ago about the 

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sensitive military documents 
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It's very similar. 
That was the one where the bin 

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bags where someone had put them 
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just blowing in the street, 
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I think that's for for people 
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so like the privacy kind of side
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talk about documents and hard 
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and best practises and stuff is 
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these days, isn't it? 
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about similar sort of thing 
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news about like new iPhones or 
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being left somewhere and like, 
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something. 
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that's someone's prototype. 
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pub or something and it was a 
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design. 
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changed the physical design of 
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The websites just asked me to 
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can do if you want, but I 
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There's a 50 page report on this
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his handling of classified maps 
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trains. 
I'm just looking. 

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The report, which was compiled 
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complaints, notes that Aguto 
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the maps while on route to Kiev,
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hands of staff instead of a 
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upon the group's return to 
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as secret, was subsequently 

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misplaced and left on the train.
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stored in an unsecured 
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returned one day after having 
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software. 
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cylindrical tube. the US Embassy
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unattended classified documents 
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to Ukraine one day and later. 
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a day later when the US embassy 
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So. 
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Yeah, and then the drink. 
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talk about the drinking, but 
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drunk from 2 bottles of alcohol.
Yeah, and it's. 

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Yeah, very responsible, but does
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So Oh yes, two years ago, yes. 
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the comments on Reddit, but they
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not really on the data, so as 
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seat for the more interesting 
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So there's something in that as 
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Yeah, right. 
That is this week's breach of 

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the week. 
So now let's get on with some 

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news. 
And the first news story this 

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week comes from cyber news. 
And this is it's also a leak. 

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But this is not the breach of 
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A hacktivist group has breached 
P3 Global Intel, which is a 

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Texas based company behind Crime
Stoppers. 

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They're tip platforms which are 
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enforcement agencies, federal 
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So the 91.5 very specific there.
The 91.5 GB data set, which has 

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been dubbed Blue Leaks 2 Point 
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million submissions spanning 
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names, addresses, Social 
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criminal histories of both the 
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on. 
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tipster identities are protected
at all times, personal 

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information from those who 
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the leak. 
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360, has not responded publicly 
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written. 
So that's an interesting 1 isn't

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it? 
It's blue leaks 2 point O. 

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Love data again. 9191.53 I've 
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different article 91.53 that's 
eight point. 3,000,000 

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submissions. 
Crazy, it's. 

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Crazy, isn't it? 
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Do you know what Blue leaks one 
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Do you know what the original 
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I didn't know. 
For a bit of cyber history this 

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Blue leaks sometimes referred to
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Blue leaks refers to the 269.21 
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enforcement data that was 
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2020 and that was by activist 
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Secrets. 
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app on American law enforcement 
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intelligence bulletins, emails, 
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So very similar like big time 
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That's the original blue leaks. 
So yeah, it's if you tell people

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that they're reporting data and 
it's anonymous, surely it should

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be anonymous. 
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looking is this the actual so 
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have got a release website which
I've just landed on Cybernews 

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here. 
Claim that your anonymity, your 

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anonymity is protected at all 
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In many cases, your information 
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offered by a local programme. 
Clearly not, because they've all

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been leaked so. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, it said and yeah, it says 
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If your information relates to 
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please visit p3campus.com. 
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to be careful. 
It it does, it's the same group 

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DD DOS secrets, DDO Secrets, 
they were provided with the 

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data. 
They attribute the breach to a 

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group calling itself the 
Internet if Machine, but that 

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that threat has got no prior 
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could be someone new or someone 
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So yeah, be careful. 
You should be able to Crime 

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You should be able to report a 

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crime anonymously. 
Surely that should be a thing 

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you should be able to trust. 
If you're coming forward, you're

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putting yourself on the line 
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You should be able to trust 
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Now and move to the next one. 
Yeah, I'm just looking actually 

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I think there I said there was 
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then I've just read at the 
bottom article, OK, there is a 

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statement. 
It's been added. 

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We're currently working to 
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experienced an incident 
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and if so, the extensiveness of 
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involved. 
We've hired an independent third

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party to conduct a full forensic
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happened, said JP Gilbolt, CEO 
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information has been accessed or
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saying we're investigating. 
Someone else is saying the data 

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is out there. 
I'm wondering why this data has 

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been kept for 40 years. 
That's yeah, yeah. 

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That's a great one. 
Right, move on to the next one. 

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Cool. 
So this one is new Android 

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malware. 
It's hiding in streaming apps to

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spy on users. 
Personal notes. 

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This one is a researchers Fabric
have identified a new Android 

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malware called Perseus, and it's
hiding inside apps that appear 

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to offer IPTV streaming 
services, which quite often 

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stream television content over 
the Internet. 

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But they're obviously often for 
privatised content and you often

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get them outside of official 
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so sort of side loading or 
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And obviously then they're a lot
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malicious. 
And they, yeah, they're not 

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particularly, I guess they're 
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maybe the OS potentially 
monitors these days. 

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So yeah, this one as obviously, 
yeah, Android, once you 

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installed a malicious 
application, it captures your 

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credentials using fake login 
screens and also does key 

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logging. 
But this one targets your note 

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taking apps like Google Keep and
Evernote is 2 that I mentioned. 

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And ever see extracts the 
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And they're commonly used for 
storing passwords and sensitive 

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information, financial 
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things. 
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of this one talks about. 
I've seen credit card details 

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stored on the Notes app and, you
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accounts and sort codes and all 
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You know, I don't use passwords.
People do though I would imagine

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have passwords on note apps. 
Yeah, it says here that. 

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So it's primarily, it was 
actively distributed in the 

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wild, but it says here that it's
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Turkey and Italy, according to a
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Fabric. 
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on the leaked code of an older 
Android banking Trojan, 

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including Cerberus, which is a 
prolific malware family. 

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And the source code of that was 
exposed in 2020. 

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But yeah, fun to be wary of, I 
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risks of downloading these kind 
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Android, but really on any 
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content you're opening. 
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risks there. 
But to start on this one, it 

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says that earlier in October, 
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identified another and 
Contragion Herodotus capable of 

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mimicking human behaviour to 
avoid detection during remote 

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device control. 
And another malware known as 

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crocodiles can manipulate 
victims contacts, allowing you 

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to allow allowing attackers to 
impersonate trusted entities 

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such as banks. 
So yeah, lots of Andrew and 

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Malward to be wary of and yeah, 
that. 

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Crocodilus one's a really 
interesting one because last 

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week we spoke about SMS Blasters
because you've received the fake

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e-mail from Google, the fake SMS
from Google and something like 

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that, Matt, that Croc dealers 
malware would also enable that. 

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I'm not suggesting you've got 
like one of the latest Android 

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phones. 
It's probably patched tightly. 

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You know, it's not suspecting 
that you're infected. 

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I mean, you could be, but I'm 
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But it's, you know, there's more
than more than one way to skin a

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rabbit or whatever the saying 
is. 

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Do you know what I mean? 
Like there's multiple threats 

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that can cause many different 
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Yeah, this was that crocodile. 
This one was distributed through

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malicious adverts primarily on 
Facebook. 

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There's, there's guys there. 
Good old Met. 

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I saw him as a complete aside, 
Metro paying influencers 

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through, I think they're 
offering them $3000 to come back

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to Facebook. 
They want to like because 

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Facebook's dying like the 
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is quite old. 
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from other platforms to come 
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the younger generation to come 
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The IPTV thing, just to touch on
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IPTV is typically blocked by 
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because illegal streaming. 
The last two organisations I've 

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worked at, illegal streaming has
been called out specifically in 

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policies and, you know, is not 
being allowed. 

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And it's been something that's 
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anyone do it. 
And it's sports, it's films, 

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it's TV series, you know, and 
it's, it's, it's a dangerous 

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space. 
There's so many rogue websites 

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full of adverts. 
Lots of, you know, you, you are 

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really taking a real risk when 
you go and stream a football 

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match or a boxing match or the 
latest movie from a site that 

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might look really professional, 
but it's illegal content, which 

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means they're making money 
somehow, and they'll be making 

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money from your credit card 
details that they're taking 

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secretly. 
Yeah, it's, it's it's not worth 

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the risk. 
It's definitely not worth the 

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risk. 
No. 

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Yeah, right. 
I'll move on to the next one. 

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And this is an update on the 
Stryker incident we spoke about 

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last week. 
It was reported today at the 

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time time we're recording this 
and that the FBI has seized the 

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Handala data leak site after the
Striker cyber attack. 

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So 2 websites that belong to 
Handala which was the Iranian 

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linked hacktivist group have 
been seized and this is 

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following the attack on medical 
device giant Striker. 

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Obviously Striker was 
compromised the attackers. 

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Some details came out on this 
this week and someone commented 

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on a TikTok video I recorded 
actually to confirm that all of 

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my information was completely 
true. 

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I work for striker they said and
everything you've said is 

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completely true. 
I think it's reported that they 

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found old credentials in data 
breaches of admin accounts that 

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then gave them access to the 
Microsoft estate. 

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And then they used Microsoft 
Intune, which they had admin 

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access to, which obviously is a 
legitimate device management 

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tool owned by Microsoft. 
And they pushed factory reset 

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commands to 80,000 devices. 
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Striker, a lot of the medical 
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We did report last week about 
there wasn't. 

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Some weren't communicating back.
So I think some are impacted, 

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but I think the ones that 
actually save lives, keep people

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alive, help people remain alive,
I think they're still working 

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fundamentally. 
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So actually just on the back of 
that, there's a follow on, 

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follow up to that. 
CISA has since issued guidance. 

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Obviously, CISA is, jeez, what 
does CISA stand for? 

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Completely forgotten. 
An infrastructure Security 

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Agency. 
That's the one. 

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You can tell I'm not an American
because otherwise I'll probably 

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know that they are. 
America's cyber defence agency 

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cease to have issued guidance 
urging all US organisations to 

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harden their Microsoft Intune 
environments in response to the 

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Stryker attack. 
I think essentially this, this 

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attack could have been avoided. 
This is an administrative, it's 

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an, it's a they, they've left 
the door open somewhat. 

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So it wasn't as sophisticated. 
As that malware involves. 

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No, no, this is a human. 
That's why we're talking about 

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it. 
It's a human. 

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There's, there's been some human
decisions which have led to this

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attack. 
So, and this is a great one for 

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us. 
This is really important. 

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Why patching and installing your
updates and keeping everything 

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up to date is really important, 
but also access control. 

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Microsoft has published 
hardening advice this week as 

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well. 
So if you use Intune to manage 

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devices. 
Speak to your tech teams, 

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they're probably aware of this. 
But if you're a CSO or you're an

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awareness person, just have a 
word with those that manage your

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windows and stay and go. 
Have you seen this? 

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And because they might, they 
don't want to be remediating 

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this. 
You don't want to be on the 

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fixing side of this problem. 
You want to be on the prevention

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side of this problem. 
Yeah. 

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So there's there's an update on 
Handala right next. 

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So the next one we have is 
Marquee Texas based fintech 

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company says over 672,000 people
had personal and financial data 

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stolen in a ransomware attack. 
So this was something that 

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happened back in August 2025. 
And you mentioned to be earlier 

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that we previously spoke about 
this one quite a while ago. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, we did. 

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We covered this on an episode a 
while ago. 

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So this one is, yeah, a bit of 
an update I guess on this one, 

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basically notified 680,000 
people and the hackers stole 

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their information during the 
cyber attack. 

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And yet more than half of those 
lived in Texas. 

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Yeah, basically said the most, 
most information that this sort 

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of story had so far on the 
number which was previously not 

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reported. 
I mean, this breach allowed 

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attackers to still banking 
names, dates of birth, postal 

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addresses, financial 
information, their bank 

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accounts, credit card numbers 
and also took Social Security 

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numbers as well. 
Everything you need for a good 

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fishing pack campaign, Yeah. 
And yeah, one of the interesting

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points on this one is that 
Marquee themselves sued its 

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firewall provider Sonic Wall, in
February because they accused 

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the company of security failings
that allowed the hackers to 

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steal critical information about
its firewalls and which then the

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hackers used to compromise 
Marquis network and steal data 

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and deploy ransomware to it. 
So in the lawsuit, they said 

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that Marquis said that Sonic 
will create a vulnerability that

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allowed hackers to steal the 
configuration backup files, 

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including their own. 
Obviously Marquis, but yeah, 

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that's quite a wild story in 
itself. 

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I don't know if he spoke about 
that one last minute when it 

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happened in February. 
I don't remember hearing about 

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that. 
No, that's news to me. 

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It's interesting. 
Then there's two things that 

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interest me on this. 
It's number one, they've 

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obviously done enough analysis 
to work out where the 

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information came from, therefore
pointing the finger at Sonic 

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Wall to the case, to the amount 
that they're confident they've 

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got a legal claim against Sonic 
Wall. 

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So they've obviously got a good 
track record, but also this 

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happened in August and they've 
only just notified users. 

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I mean, surely in a breach you 
assume the worst and then it's 

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weird that this is where there's
different approaches and I'm not

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see so and I'm not PR. 
So then maybe they sorry, maybe 

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they I think they did notify 
them in February. 

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Yeah, I'm not really sure why 
this It says here that date of 

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breach occurred August right now
if they the reading that the 

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American dates is month first 
isn't. 

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It. 
So it's December 2nd was when 

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they notified consumers, right? 
OK. 

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So it did take four months for 
that. 

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And I think even then they just 
maybe didn't specify publicly 

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what was never involved. 
It's quite interesting, that 

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article that we, we've got this 
story in on TechCrunch. 

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They've listed, there's a link 
on that that goes to a data 

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breach notice filed in Texas. 
So yeah, on oag.my.site.com, 

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which is an awful, awful domain.
Office of the 

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attorneygeneral.my.site.com. 
Yeah. 

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Ken Paxton, Attorney general of 
Texas data security breach 

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reports and there's a list of 
all data breach reports so I can

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see at the time of recording 
yesterday, Kaplan North America,

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Open Loop Health, William Hart 
and Bound US LLP. 

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You know, there's and capital 
store oil and gas. 

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There's three that happened just
yet that were reported just 

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yesterday and then there's four 
more from the day before. 

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So this is obviously, you know, 
Texas is big, the UK is smaller 

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than Texas and Texas is just one
state in the whole of America. 

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So I think it's really good that
you get that kind of visibility 

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really good. 
And then I can't remember, we 

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spoke about this. 
I'm just, it tells you what type

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of information is it affected as
well? 

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It's a conduent business 
services. 

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I can't remember if we spoke 
about this, but we must have 2nd

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of February, 15,000,000 records,
number of Texans affected, 

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15,000,000 Social Security 
number, medical information, 

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health insurance. 
We must have spoken about that. 

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But it's really good that 
that's, I mean, it's probably 

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published publicly elsewhere. 
I'm probably being really naive 

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pretending that it isn't. 
Yeah, that's you can't find any 

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more information out just the 
address, the zip code, type of 

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information, number affected, 
notice provided to consumers. 

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Yes or no? 
That's an interesting one, 

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Marquee. 
So here we go. 

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Marquee Software solutions 
number affected this 12th of 

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February. 
This was filed 12th of February 

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2025. 
Yeah. 

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Marquee Software solutions 
354,000 Texans affected. 

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Notice provided to consumers. 
No, Right. 

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Yeah. 
There you go. 

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Yeah, have they got there's a 
search functionality here? 

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Yeah, that's the only one here. 
12th of February or is that the 

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2nd? 
2nd of December, isn't it? 

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I've just done the same thing. 
2nd of December 2020, five, 354.

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So that's less than the figure 
we've just spoken about. 

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It's half of the figure we've 
just spoken about. 

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And it says notice provided to 
consumers, No, So yeah, yeah. 

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OK. 
So third party vendors suing 

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Sonicwall is an interesting one.
Be interesting to see how that 

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lands. 
Yeah, I don't know if there's 

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any news on that one, but maybe 
we'll talk about it in a future 

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episode. 
Yeah, yeah, right. 

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I'll move on to the next one. 
I nearly brought this as a 

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topic, but it made the news so I
don't need to. 

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I received an e-mail related to 
this this week. 

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Company's house. 
In the UK, when you have a 

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business or a limited company or
something, you haven't 

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registered with Companies House.
Companies House is the house 

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that manages all the companies. 
It's a government entity. 

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Company's house suspends filing 
service after five months. 

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Security glitch exposed 
directors details? 

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So I got an e-mail telling me 
about this and my immediate 

457
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:13,920
thought was it was a security 
incident. 

458
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,240
It wasn't. 
It's a bug glitch that they 

459
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:22,000
claim hasn't led to any data 
breaches, but a routine IT 

460
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,840
update in October 2025 left a 
vulnerability in Companies House

461
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,920
web filing service that was 
undetected until now. 

462
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:37,800
So since October, any logged in 
user could access another 

463
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,200
company's private dashboard, 
including directors, home 

464
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,200
addresses, e-mail addresses and 
dates of birth. 

465
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,760
And that information is not 
publicly available on Companies 

466
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,800
House. 
And all you had to do was press 

467
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,920
the browser back button a few 
times, Back, back, back, back, 

468
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,000
back. 
I mean, it's like a seat. 

469
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,200
It's like a cheat code. 
It's like up, down, it's like 

470
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,120
the Capcom code, up, down, left,
right, yeah, press the back 

471
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:10,160
button a few times. 
The floor was accidentally 

472
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,760
discovered by business services 
provider, who then alerted a tax

473
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:19,000
campaigner, Dan Needle, who in 
turn then contacted Company's 

474
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,680
House. 
So the service was suspended on 

475
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,240
the 13th of March and restored 
on the 16th of March. 

476
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,320
Company's House says it does not
believe data was extracted 

477
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,000
systematically, but has reported
itself to the ICO and in the 

478
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,480
NCSC and has asked all UK 
companies to check their 

479
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,480
details. 
So if you are a director of AUK 

480
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,440
business, you need to go and 
check your company's house 

481
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,920
records. 
Or if you have minions that do 

482
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,680
that stuff for you, tell them to
go and check your company's 

483
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,520
house records. 
I'll be checking my own. 

484
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,320
I, I think it's amazing. 
It's yeah. 

485
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,520
Back, back, back, back, back, 
back, back. 

486
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,720
Oh, I mean, that's amazing. 
That's about coding bug or 

487
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,720
something there, isn't it? 
Yeah, it's one of those things. 

488
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,000
Not browser buggers it is. 
Tommy has something in their 

489
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,480
website that's, yeah, pretty 
poor, but I wonder how someone 

490
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,600
found that out. 
I don't know. 

491
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,320
No, it's mad, isn't it? 
It's really, really funny. 

492
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,840
Yeah. 
It's how would you even? 

493
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,120
Yeah. 
I mean, it's really. 

494
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,320
Accidental, right, But. 
I guess it is accidental. 

495
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:32,320
Yeah, I guess it is. 
It's, I just find it funny that 

496
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,360
that's that's done that. 
Worrying. 

497
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,960
So the vulnerability was 
discovered on the 12th of March 

498
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,200
by John Hewitt at Ghost Mail, 
who's a corporate services 

499
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,240
provider. 
He tried to contact Companies 

500
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,400
House, we didn't get response. 
Well that's even worse. 

501
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,920
And there's a video here, 
obviously amazing. 

502
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,040
So Tax Policy Associates is 
Dan's website. 

503
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,280
There's a video here trying. 
To explain. 

504
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,160
Once the company number is, 
yeah, So what he's doing, he's 

505
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:09,680
in company's house and he's 
basically got got the companies 

506
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,720
in front of him. 
And then very, very familiar. 

507
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,360
One of the options is he goes to
file for a different company, 

508
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,640
which is an option. 
And then it's asking him to put 

509
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:24,920
in a company number, these 8 
characters long, and there it 

510
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,680
looks like he's typing in a 
company number. 2296. 

511
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,680
He's pressed continue and it's 
showing a company, Yeah, OK, 

512
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,680
which is all. 
This is all public record. 

513
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,960
He's pressed confirm and 
continue, and now it's asked for

514
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,480
company authentication code. 
So the authentication code is 

515
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,280
what you need to access the 
actual specific data that's like

516
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,280
private to you. 
Now he's going and he's pressing

517
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,880
back and back again and back 
again, and it's taken him back 

518
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,560
through the pages he's been, but
rather than taking him back to 

519
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,400
the company that he would have 
was originally at, it's taken 

520
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,520
him back to the company he's 
tried to access. 

521
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,880
So it's bypassed that hidden 
access code. 

522
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,200
That's incredible. 
Yeah, that's a. 

523
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,600
That's a bug and a half, isn't 
it? 

524
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,200
Yeah, that's terrible. 
Yeah. 

525
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,120
So yes, there we go. 
If you have a limited company in

526
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,560
the UK or you've got a company 
registered company's house, you 

527
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,760
should go and check your 
company's house records now that

528
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,800
problem has been fixed, 
apparently. 

529
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,760
That's an interesting one. 
Yeah. 

530
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:34,960
Do you? 
Want to move on to the next one?

531
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,160
Yeah, yeah. 
So this one is popular crime 

532
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,680
extension Save images type has 
been removed after hijacking 

533
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,360
affiliate links for months. 
So this one looks like from a 

534
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,320
Reddit post. 
Yeah, I couldn't find any news 

535
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,880
on this. 
Yeah. 

536
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,360
But I found a couple of Reddit 
posts. 

537
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,640
So yeah, Google removed the 
Chrome extension save images 

538
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,320
type which had over 1,000,000 
users and a featured badge from 

539
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Google which has been no means. 
It's all safe and good to go. 

540
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,280
That's got to be good. 
Google have featured it. 

541
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,080
Yeah and yeah, after it was 
found to be silently hijacking 

542
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:17,640
affiliate links since November 
2025, the extension change 

543
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,280
ownership and was updated with 
malicious code that injected 

544
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,520
hidden iframes into pages to 
redirect shopping shopping 

545
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,320
commissions from retailers like 
Amazon, Adidas, Sheehan to the 

546
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,480
no owners. 
Malicious behaviour was designed

547
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,320
to evade detection, only 
activating after a user had 

548
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,920
saved at least 10 images. 
Microsoft Edge also removed the 

549
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,520
same extension, but they did it 
a year earlier, which is 

550
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,240
interesting. 
I wonder if that was same 

551
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,360
reasons or not. 
But. 

552
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:56,360
And yeah, I think as we know 
it's been removed, but it still 

553
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,800
could be in your in your 
browser. 

554
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,680
So. 
Is that sort of thing? 

555
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,760
No, Google have removed it now. 
So I used to, I had this, I had 

556
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,640
this installed. 
I used to use it quite 

557
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,720
frequently. 
I may have used it more than 10 

558
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,960
times since November. 
And the reason I used it is 

559
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,000
because when you're trying to 
get images, I recently built a 

560
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,360
slide deck and I needed some 
like logos. 

561
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,720
So Google image search, you 
download images from Google 

562
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:26,000
image search and they're web P 
files, webp files and Canva and 

563
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:32,560
stuff don't support webp files. 
So you use this save image as 

564
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,920
type, right click on the image, 
save images, type PNG and it 

565
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,000
saves it as a PNG. 
So I opened up Chrome and I can 

566
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,320
share my screen quickly to 
explain the experience. 

567
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,200
Here I'm going to show you what 
extensions I've got installed. 

568
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,840
So here we can see review one 
extension that may be unsafe. 

569
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,520
Chrome recommends that you use 
it. 

570
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,920
Save image as type. 
This extension contains malware.

571
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,640
So I can keep the extension or I
can remove it. 

572
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,719
Chrome recommends review this 
extension. 

573
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,320
So it's great that they put the 
remove it underneath. 

574
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,159
See more details. 
Yeah, not just like you can keep

575
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:16,600
it. 
That's the easy option. 

576
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,080
Yeah, I mean it is off and I 
can't turn it back on. 

577
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,920
But you could. 
But you could keep it. 

578
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:26,280
But I can keep it but it's. 
It's but it work. 

579
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,120
Maybe, maybe it won't. 
No, it won't because it's off 

580
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,880
and I can't turn it on. 
Which, yeah. 

581
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,719
So yeah, that's gone just. 
Remove it just just. 

582
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,000
Take it away and notify users? 
That's crazy. 

583
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,600
Yeah, it's quite, it's quite. 
Yeah. 

584
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,800
I've had, this was like one of 
the, this is like one of the 

585
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,719
three extensions that I've had 
for years. 

586
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,440
You know, it used to be there's 
like four that I've always had 

587
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,200
for years. 
There's this, there's you block 

588
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,640
origin that obviously got 
retired when Google Chrome 

589
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,040
decided they hated app blockers.
Go full page, which takes full 

590
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,160
page screenshots and a colour 
dropper. 

591
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,240
They're typically the four. 
Like they're my holy quadrantity

592
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:17,920
of things. 
There is, so I'm going to remove

593
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,920
that. 
Now it's asking me remove images

594
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,080
type by. 
So yeah, that's gone. 

595
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,320
Yeah, on the Reddit post. 
Yeah, as a success. 

596
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,000
Yeah, I see on the Reddit 
there's a few people talking 

597
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:36,720
about they've like forked the 
GitHub prepository for that old 

598
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,600
extension and cleaned it up and 
stuff. 

599
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,800
But I guess be careful anyway 
with those. 

600
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,160
You never know, yeah. 
There is a replacement called 

601
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,120
Save Images PNG which will be 
useful. 

602
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,120
It's this is a, this is a 
fundamental problem with 

603
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,840
extensions and it's a problem 
that everybody in every business

604
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,080
has. 
Extensions live in what is 

605
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,520
arguably one of the most 
privileged places on your 

606
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,040
computer. 
They have the ability to see 

607
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,800
everything you do. 
When we worked together a few 

608
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,120
years ago, I tried arguing that,
like we were talking about 

609
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,000
computers and hardware and they 
were moaning about the amount 

610
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,840
they were spending on laptops 
and you know, it's stuff. 

611
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,920
And I went, all these users, why
don't you shove them on 

612
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,680
Chromebooks? 
Because all they need is a 

613
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,480
browser. 
Like so many people, HR and now 

614
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,120
even more so HR functions. 
You know, anyone that doesn't 

615
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:31,920
use Microsoft Office or AutoCAD 
or Photoshop, any generic kind 

616
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,040
of general user could probably 
just work with a Chromebook. 

617
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,080
And then your hardware exposure 
is reduced, your hardware cost 

618
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:44,520
is probably reduced, and they're
more secure typically as well. 

619
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,360
But because the browser, 
everything lives in the browser 

620
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,120
now. 
And that's the problem and 

621
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:54,520
that's why these extensions and 
it this is exactly what happened

622
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,280
with you block like years ago, 
the the app blocker God, it must

623
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,360
be years. 
It's years and years ago you 

624
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,400
block trusted app blocker got 
sold, all of a sudden started 

625
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,120
doing dirty stuff, which is why 
we ended up with you block 

626
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,800
origin because the original 
developer was like, you're 

627
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,200
ruining my reputation. 
I'll recreate it and call it you

628
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,400
block origin. 
So. 

629
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,880
Yeah. 
You don't know. 

630
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,320
You don't know when something 
changes hands and every update. 

631
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,280
You're trusting so many third 
parties with every single 

632
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,320
browser extension you have. 
Well, yeah, and as well, the 

633
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,480
browser extensions update 
themselves, right? 

634
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,000
You don't, Yeah, don't really 
have to manually do anything 

635
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,000
there. 
And it's just silently do as 

636
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,760
we've turned in this one and 
many other stories we've circled

637
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,840
touchy browser extensions. 
And I think it's quite funny. 

638
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,640
Organisations are so tough about
what software you can install on

639
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,520
a computer. 
You'll have an organisation 

640
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,520
that's like, no, you can't 
install any third party 

641
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,320
software, you can't do this, you
can't do that. 

642
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,600
But they'll have no controls 
over the extensions all of us 

643
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,120
use all of the time. 
They won't be running a managed 

644
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,320
Chrome environment. 
It's. 

645
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,120
Yeah. 
And our users can use any 

646
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,680
browser they want, which means 
every browser has their own 

647
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,160
extensions. 
It's yeah. 

648
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,520
Anyway, if you had save images 
type installed, you still do 

649
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,240
have it installed, but it's 
permanently off. 

650
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:17,480
You can't turn it back on, I 
think is the summary of that. 

651
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:24,400
That is this week's news. 
Now it's time for this week's 

652
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,280
fish of the week, which comes 
from the threat intelligence 

653
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,320
team at Hawks Hunt. 
Let me share this with you. 

654
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,880
This week is Emirates airline 
impersonation. 

655
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,000
So this is a loyalty reward 
notification, and this one 

656
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,320
looks, well, you tell me, you 
look at it and you tell me what 

657
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,680
you see. 
Well, yeah, it's a typical typo 

658
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:59,520
to look like an M and or it's 
female campaign eventbrite.com 

659
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,560
that looks fairly legit. 
So let's just run through this 

660
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,760
really quickly bit by bit. 
So Eventbrite is a legitimate, 

661
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:14,840
is a legitimate platform and 
it's used to book events. 

662
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,480
We see this all the time. 
We saw it last week with, I 

663
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,240
mean, last week's wasn't the 
most convincing example, like 

664
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,320
not everyone's going to fall for
it, but people abuse the mail 

665
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,200
capabilities and trust of other 
platforms to get in. 

666
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,920
So I think on this one, 
someone's book, someone's 

667
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,960
planned an event on Eventbrite. 
The logo for that would be 

668
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,800
Emirates. 
The event name is probably 

669
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,600
loyalty reward notification. 
But before we get to that, 

670
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,600
you'll see the sender name is 
disguised like you said to look 

671
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,080
like Emirates, but the R and the
N together. 

672
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,960
And we've seen that with 
Microsoft before. 

673
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,480
So you know, some fonts, some I 
think Outlook, it looks quite 

674
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,240
convincing as an M some mobile 
clients as well. 

675
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,200
Brand logo. 
It's got an Emirates logo, 

676
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,680
which, you know, automatically 
reinforces the fact it's from 

677
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,320
Emirates. 
What if I'm really interested in

678
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,000
here is the disguised 
characters? 

679
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,560
So I looked at this and I 
thought, oh, that's displaying 

680
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,800
really weird. 
Is it like I thought the image 

681
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,600
that had been shared with me was
of a poor quality, which would 

682
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:29,320
be unusual because I know the 
person that makes it, but we're 

683
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,280
looking at it. 
No, it's they've disguised some 

684
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:37,320
of the letters specifically to 
try and bypass security 

685
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,760
philtres. 
So you can see here the value, 

686
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,440
the D looks really small and 
customer, the C looks different 

687
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,160
and the M looks different. 
So I think it's pulling from 

688
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:52,120
different alphabets. 
Yeah, yeah. 

689
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:55,760
It's quite unusual, that one. 
Yeah, it is. 

690
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,840
And then right at the bottom the
link. 

691
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:02,400
If the link doesn't open when 
clicked, please copy and paste 

692
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:08,240
it in your browser. 
It purposely doesn't click so it

693
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,160
doesn't look like a link and 
you're encouraged to copy and 

694
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,160
paste it into your browser to 
try and bypass the security 

695
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,160
controls. 
And when you when you do that 

696
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:26,160
straight there, there's a fake 
login to Emirates page pretty. 

697
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:27,760
So it's asking you. 
Convincing looking. 

698
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,440
Yeah, and it's credential 
harvesting. 

699
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,160
It's asking you to log in and 
enter your username and 

700
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,640
password, these things. 
I mean, you can Vibe code that 

701
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,120
in seconds. 
Now with Vibe coded something 

702
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,200
this week with Claude and it 
took no time at all. 

703
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,040
I was like, jeez, that's 
amazing. 

704
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,920
But that kind of thing, you 
know, it's shove an Emirates 

705
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,480
logo on Emirates font. 
That's probably not a font, it's

706
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,960
probably an image. 
And yeah, so I. 

707
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:58,200
Wonder what got me really do 
with your Emirates account. 

708
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,520
I guess you might have saved 
passport details and stuff in 

709
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,920
there, but I guess they maybe 
could book a flight, change 

710
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,400
these details and stuff. 
Don't know. 

711
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,080
Yeah. 
It's quite a. 

712
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,480
Specific thing, if you don't 
have a Emirates account before, 

713
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,680
you're not going to maybe fall 
for it, but. 

714
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,880
No, it does make you wonder if 
it's targeted. 

715
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,960
Maybe there's a list out there 
of Emirates users? 

716
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:31,760
Maybe in the current climate, 
Dubai and other areas, Emirates 

717
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,000
as the fly there and that 
they're a Middle Eastern 

718
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,440
airline, aren't they Dubai? 
Yeah, yeah. 

719
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,480
That hadn't even dawned on me. 
Yeah, hadn't even dawned on me 

720
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,640
on that. 
Yeah, That's that's interesting.

721
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,760
Yeah. 
So that is this week's Fish of 

722
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,320
the Week. 
Thank you very much to the 

723
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,920
threat intelligence team at 
Hawks Hunt for sharing that with

724
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,280
us. 
Thank you. 

725
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,720
Just one bit of admin before we 
move on this week's awareness 

726
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:07,240
Awareness. 
The call for presentations for 

727
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:12,640
the SANS Security Awareness and 
Culture Summit 2026 is open. 

728
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:16,760
If you've got something worth 
sharing, SANS wants to hear from

729
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,920
you. 
The call for presentations is 

730
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,520
open and the deadline is coming 
up real soon. 

731
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:26,200
February. 
Sorry, Friday, April the 3rd at 

732
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,960
5:00 Eastern Time. 
So you've got a couple of weeks.

733
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,680
The summit runs on the 27th and 
the 28th of August in Las Vegas 

734
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,880
and there is a virtual option. 
So if you can't get to Vegas, 

735
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,880
you don't fancy flying at the 
moment. 

736
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,600
You can present remotely and 
it's encouraged. 

737
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,520
They're looking for talks on the
human side of security 

738
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,800
awareness, culture, behaviour, 
has change, leadership training,

739
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,720
AI risk, the mistakes you've 
made and what you've learnt. 

740
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:58,240
So both in person and virtual 
speaker slots are available and 

741
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:01,800
the formats range from 25 minute
lightning talks all the way 

742
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,080
through to like 90 minute hands 
on workshops. 

743
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,080
So you might have made awesome 
AI deep fakes and you want to 

744
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,120
show the world this is your 
chance. 

745
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,400
You get a complimentary pass to 
attend the fall summit as well, 

746
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:17,480
which is worth $125. 
Plus, you get promotion and you 

747
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,160
get to be on stage in front of 
all your peers. 

748
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,320
It's awesome. 
But you do have to, obviously, 

749
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,040
if you want to go to Vegas, you 
do have to pay to get to Vegas 

750
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,360
if you want to do it or you know
someone that does. 

751
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,880
Submissions are available. 
The link is in the show notes 

752
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,440
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753
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,560
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754
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,120
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755
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,480
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756
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757
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760
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761
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,680
Right. 
Should we do some topics? 

762
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,280
Yeah. 
What did I call these? 

763
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,680
I called these. 
What did I? 

764
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,760
I came up with a name for these.
I can't remember what it was. 

765
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,160
Insert. 
Yeah. 

766
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:20,120
Now insert called Graphic here. 
The first thing I wanted to show

767
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,680
you was something I saw on 
Reddit. 

768
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,600
Of course, that's my my weak 
spot. 

769
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,680
So this is Idris Elba. 
Do we know? 

770
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,520
We know Idris Elba, the English 
actor. 

771
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,960
I saw something the other day. 
I think he's Sir Idris. 

772
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,360
Now I don't know. 
That may have been AII think 

773
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,400
he's Sir Idris. 
Idris Elba's got a wax model at 

774
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:47,160
Madame Tussauds. 
Guess what his iPhone did 

775
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,400
before? 
Have we covered this before? 

776
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,920
Maybe we have here. 
It's it's great though, yeah. 

777
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,560
Hold on, let's see if it I lost 
my phone. 

778
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,000
I did. 
That's crazy. 

779
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,280
Hold on. 
I've got to call my mum mate. 

780
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,800
She's you know, how amazing is 
that? 

781
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,560
I just just that little short 
bit. 

782
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,840
It's like, oh, now either, I 
don't know, like what can you 

783
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,040
do? 
We've speak about before with 

784
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,240
like Sam, there's a Samsung, but
looks of isn't it and it's not 

785
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,000
as sophisticated was iphone's 
Face ID. 

786
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,880
So, OK, Yeah, OK. 
Although Even so, like just the 

787
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,120
cameras on an iPhone, check for 
a pulse or blood flowing under 

788
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,000
the to check for body 
temperature. 

789
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:29,760
Yeah, probably get forward by 
that. 

790
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,280
Yeah, I guess you'll just be a 
celebrity to and you just have 

791
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,440
their phone as well. 
Or Tom Cruise in Mission 

792
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,640
Impossible, Right? 
I'll move on to the next thing. 

793
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:41,200
It's just a little quick thing I
saw on Instagram. 

794
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,680
And this isn't, it's not a 
massive cyber story, but I just 

795
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,560
thought this, this is like a 
little flashback. 

796
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,800
I just thought this was 
interesting. 

797
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,840
If you work in IT or with 
computers like we do. 

798
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,600
This is Pete Tong on BBC Radio 1
being interviewed. 

799
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,360
Just have a listen to this and, 
and watch this. 

800
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,280
It's, it's audible, so you can 
hear it flustered because we're 

801
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,080
getting a lot of people asking 
for the website address. 

802
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:13,640
The website address from 1995 S 
that's Greg James, I think, 

803
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,040
interviewing Pete Tong. 
Pete Tong's obviously been on 

804
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,560
Radio One in the UK for many, 
many years. 

805
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:26,000
And the website address from 
1995, I don't know. 

806
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,120
That timeline doesn't quite work
out for me. 

807
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,360
Maybe I'm wrong. 
That hurts my head. 

808
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,600
I didn't think the web. 
Well, yeah, it was. 

809
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,040
OK. 
Listen, anyway, listen. 

810
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,640
Oh yeah, I can't, I can't 
remember that, no, But luckily 

811
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,640
HTTP colon forward slash forward
slash 

812
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:56,760
www.bbcnc.org.uk/BBCTV/radioone/P/N/index
full stop. 

813
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,840
HTML just get told to say that 
by the way. 

814
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,560
Yeah, you can tell now they've 
got everything really, like 

815
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,360
short now at Radio One. 
It's like, you know, BBC Sounds,

816
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,080
that's all. 
Yeah, P slash pong. 

817
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,040
How amazing was that? 
God. 

818
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:19,240
So you can find us at HTTPS 
colon forward slash forward 

819
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:23,040
slash 
www.riskycreative.com/index dot 

820
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,920
HTML. 
That shows you how far times 

821
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,320
have changed, right? 
Like it? 

822
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,440
Does. 
Now you're just like you said, 

823
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,920
you just Google BBC Sounds or 
BBC Radio 1. 

824
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,400
Yeah, yeah. 
Whatever your search engine 

825
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,440
isn't is there. 
Search engines weren't a thing 

826
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,080
then. 
That's funny, yeah. 

827
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,720
One last thing I wanted to 
mention and I nearly brought 

828
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:48,480
this as news article, but it's 
kind of funny and terrifying and

829
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,760
we had lots of news articles. 
This was something I saw in four

830
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,320
O 4 Media, which is quickly 
becoming one of my favourite 

831
00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:00,320
kind of online news sites. 
Tinder plans to let AI scan your

832
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,920
camera roll. 
So Tinder is obviously the 

833
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,040
dating app that's made famous 
The swipe right, swipe left. 

834
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,320
The dating app says it's set to 
roll out in the US later this 

835
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,520
spring. 
Tinder plans to access users 

836
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:18,280
camera rolls to pick photos to 
determine what you're into. 

837
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,600
A slightly, slightly terrifying 
isn't it? 

838
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,440
The AI is going to scan users 
locally stored photos, 

839
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,920
everything from Jim's selfies to
pictures of their family, 

840
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:33,040
sensitive documents and intimate
pics to help construct profiles 

841
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,280
by determining what users 
interests and values are. 

842
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,960
Wow. 
I'm just wondering, let's have a

843
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,320
look. 
Hang on, I'm not going to share 

844
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,480
my photo Library, Dinosaurs, 
houses and stuff I'm selling on 

845
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,760
eBay and some flooring. 
Have fun. 

846
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,560
Tinder building a dating profile
off all of that. 

847
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:57,920
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

848
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,520
I just thought that was AI 
doesn't need to be going through

849
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,800
people's photo libraries. 
Not for a dating app. 

850
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,400
It's just going to. 
I mean, that's going to make 

851
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,680
Tinder such a massive target as 
well. 

852
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,680
Oh, we're not keeping any of 
that data. 

853
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,240
We don't keep it. 
OK. 

854
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,440
Yeah, right. 
That's me done with my whatever 

855
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,440
they're called. 
What have you got? 

856
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:26,800
Yeah, so I had an interesting 
story I saw just earlier today. 

857
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:34,080
This one is about Japan and how 
they're going to allow proactive

858
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,800
cyber defence from Oktoberfest. 
And I thought it was interesting

859
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,800
because there's a few sort of, I
guess, historical one, like law 

860
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:48,560
reasons why that wasn't a thing.
Active cyber defence. 

861
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:53,320
So, yeah, so it has sort of a 
funny line of description in the

862
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,800
news story, which is in less 
polite places. 

863
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,680
This is called hacking back or 
offensive cyber OPS, right? 

864
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,880
So essentially they're 
permitting offensive cyber 

865
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,840
operations. 
Under some new framework, 

866
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,240
Japan's self Defence forces and 
the police will be able to 

867
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:14,040
identify and disable 
infrastructure use to launch 

868
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,800
cyber attacks, subject to 
approval from government cyber 

869
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:25,680
crime management committee. 
And yes, it's quite an unusual 

870
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,760
story here. 
So like, yes, as it reflects 

871
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,280
growing concern about the 
scaling impacts of cyber threats

872
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,600
on national security, economic 
everyday life and marks a 

873
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,440
significant evolution in Japan's
long standing defensive posture 

874
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,360
shaped by article nine of his 
post war constitution, which was

875
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,280
way back in I think I saw 1946 
after World War 2. 

876
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:54,600
They basically poised themselves
of a defensive sort of military 

877
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,560
and other sort of areas. 
And obviously the cyber crime 

878
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,240
fell into this this clause. 
But now, yeah, they're looking 

879
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:08,040
to change that so that they can 
disrupt the attackers. 

880
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,520
It's up some things from 
happening and yeah, as far as 

881
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:20,120
quite an unusual thing there. 
And I looked quickly for some 

882
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:26,520
stats which I guess sort of 
chose maybe why they may want to

883
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,120
be doing that. 
As you can see. 

884
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,920
I mean, this is just Japan. 
I've not compared it to the rest

885
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,560
of the world. 
I imagine it's very similar 

886
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:38,480
trend across the world, right. 
But since like 2009, you're 

887
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,280
looking at like just under 7000 
annual crime arrests. 

888
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,080
I mean, it's been going up. 
So I mean, obviously able to to 

889
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,880
arrest people for cybercrime, 
but now they're going to 

890
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,800
hopefully go to do a better job 
of it. 

891
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,800
And yeah, another hope that 
didn't. 

892
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,720
There's another image could 
bring up. 

893
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:05,400
Let's talk, which is a number of
daily cyberspace intrusions, 

894
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:11,720
which in 2013 was under 500. 
And this is Jenny, because it's 

895
00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:16,280
2019, but it's almost reaching 
4500 daily. 

896
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,760
So I was face intrusion. 
And I imagine that numbers are a

897
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,440
lot bigger now. 
Yeah, if if you see. 

898
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,880
Happen with that path, yeah. 
Yeah, you can see it's quite 

899
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,040
aggressive linear line there 
going right up. 

900
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:33,680
Yeah, it's quite interesting 
story really. 

901
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,720
I wonder if there's any other 
countries that are in a similar 

902
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,240
phase. 
I think I did see on the news 

903
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:45,760
story, it talked about some 
other nations that had a similar

904
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,120
thing. 
But yeah. 

905
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,160
I get the cultural and that's. 
Quite a big shift, isn't? 

906
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,160
It, it is a cultural shift and 
I've, I've heard it said before 

907
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,600
that like war is bad for 
business, which is why Japan 

908
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,520
don't get involved, but also 
like don't forget Japan, Japan 

909
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,000
have some pretty traumatic 
history. 

910
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:08,160
So it's, you know, pieces pieces
good for business and it's good 

911
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,960
for Japan. 
So it's, yeah, I imagine that 

912
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,480
Article 9 kind of talks probably
about being the aggressor, which

913
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,880
this kind of kind of isn't. 
But is it's that hacking back. 

914
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,720
It's, it's a blurred line, isn't
it? 

915
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:23,800
At what point becomes defence 
and what defence versus attack? 

916
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,200
It's like the attack becomes 
part of the defence. 

917
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,600
Yeah. 
But it's, yeah, that's really 

918
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,320
interesting. 
It's a really different 

919
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,800
approach. 
Yeah, well, it's obviously it's 

920
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,240
a different. 
Approach for Japan. 

921
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:40,480
Anyway, yeah, I mean, it's taken
a long time to to get there, 

922
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,320
right? 
Yeah, Yeah, 80 years. 

923
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,920
That's the clause of nine has 
been there. 

924
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,520
I mean, yeah. 
It just goes to show, doesn't 

925
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,680
it, the state of the world at 
the moment. 

926
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,800
You know, it's yeah. 
Well, yes, I mean, yes, 

927
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,440
cybercrime that that that chart 
was 2019 for Japan. 

928
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,480
And that's, I don't know if 
that's so in nineteen, 4500 

929
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,120
daily intrusions and you imagine
that numbers probably doubled by

930
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,400
now, if not more. 
And that's just Japan. 

931
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,720
So yeah, be interesting to 
compare. 

932
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,880
This must all be they've just 
had elections in Japan. 

933
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,360
Haven't they? 
And I think there's a new, 

934
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,600
there's new leadership, new 
government. 

935
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,240
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, Excellent, brilliant. 

936
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,600
What's up, Lovely? 
OK. 

937
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,840
Well, I think that's us. 
Done for this week. 

938
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,520
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939
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:39,440
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941
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:46,600
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942
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,640
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943
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,640
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944
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,320
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945
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:01,920
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946
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947
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,120
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948
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,200
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949
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,880
and stay tuned. 
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950
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,240
I think that's everything from 
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951
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,920
Yeah, me. 
Cool, right? 

952
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,920
See you next week. 
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953
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,480
Catch you later. 
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954
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:24,040
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