1 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,720 Guys, welcome to another episode of Metal Mastermind, cofounder 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,360 and your cohost me, Jason Stallworth and also cofounder of 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,160 Metal Mastermind and Cohost The Great. 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,360 Ken Candelas, good morning. How are you, man? 5 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:23,560 I'm great. We appreciate you guys. 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,640 I know we say that all the time. I hope you don't get tired of 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,160 hearing but we we dearly appreciate all of you listening 8 00:00:29,580 --> 00:00:31,580 and being a part of metal mastermind you you were so 9 00:00:31,580 --> 00:00:33,540 important to us. Thank you for being a part of 10 00:00:33,540 --> 00:00:37,220 this awesome metal musician community that you have built. 11 00:00:37,500 --> 00:00:39,460 We didn't build this. You guys built it right. 12 00:00:39,780 --> 00:00:42,740 We're all part of this together. But Ken and I, we always have 13 00:00:42,740 --> 00:00:45,700 discussions just him and I sometimes Ken because they they 14 00:00:45,700 --> 00:00:49,260 get a little you know we we share what we're going through 15 00:00:49,260 --> 00:00:53,540 with with the business and and some personal challenges which 16 00:00:53,580 --> 00:00:56,980 all these revolve around. Like Ken, our our home lives are 17 00:00:56,980 --> 00:00:58,860 good. We have zero issues in that 18 00:00:58,860 --> 00:01:01,060 department. But our a lot of our 19 00:01:01,060 --> 00:01:03,220 frustrations which is what we're going to be talking about today, 20 00:01:03,380 --> 00:01:08,660 frustrations and how to handle it and a lot of stuff that you 21 00:01:08,660 --> 00:01:10,900 just feel like your back's against the wall and things just 22 00:01:10,900 --> 00:01:12,780 aren't moving in the direction that you want. 23 00:01:13,100 --> 00:01:16,460 But Ken and I, you know, building a business and working 24 00:01:16,460 --> 00:01:20,740 on albums and everything that goes with that, you know, making 25 00:01:20,740 --> 00:01:23,880 a living in the arts, you had this pretty lengthy discussion, 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,520 dude, probably at least 30 minutes, man. 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,720 And we, we should have filmed that for like an insight 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,040 exclusive or something. But I just really, really good 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,880 heartfelt conversation, man. But frustrations can. 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,720 I'll, you know, I'll let you kick it off with just kind of 31 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,000 how you handle it in. When when we work on on our 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,240 music, I think one of the biggest things about working on 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,960 your music to get it to the other side of it being released. 34 00:01:51,700 --> 00:01:53,700 Especially if you care deeply about it. 35 00:01:54,260 --> 00:01:59,460 Is is is how long you realize the process takes. 36 00:02:01,780 --> 00:02:05,180 You know you, you come through and if you're if you've never 37 00:02:05,180 --> 00:02:11,460 released an album before, it's just to put it in in in. 38 00:02:11,540 --> 00:02:16,980 Especially as an indie musician, it takes it takes a lot of 39 00:02:16,980 --> 00:02:20,620 effort, especially if you want it to be of a high production. 40 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:25,990 These sorts of things take time and if you're doing them on your 41 00:02:26,030 --> 00:02:31,230 own, you just have to be aware and prepared that you will, you 42 00:02:31,230 --> 00:02:33,070 know, spend a significant amount of time. 43 00:02:33,270 --> 00:02:38,390 One of the things that I guess, you know, if we were to go back 44 00:02:38,390 --> 00:02:42,150 in history a little bit when we we had you know, record labels 45 00:02:42,150 --> 00:02:47,390 just constantly funding artists, literally living out of a studio 46 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:51,110 for months on end. Where they were able to just 47 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:55,870 create and capture those moments, we don't really have 48 00:02:55,870 --> 00:02:59,350 that kind of style of recording anymore, or at least it's not a 49 00:02:59,350 --> 00:03:02,230 common thing. Now it's a much more rare thing. 50 00:03:02,230 --> 00:03:05,310 You you have to have your own funding or if you if you're 51 00:03:05,310 --> 00:03:09,350 still with a label, they don't even, you know, give as much of 52 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:12,590 of an advance to artists anymore. 53 00:03:12,590 --> 00:03:15,830 So you have to be more creative with your time. 54 00:03:16,660 --> 00:03:20,860 And when you are sitting there and you're creating your song, 55 00:03:21,940 --> 00:03:25,300 creating the song is one thing Jason and I, you know, we're 56 00:03:25,300 --> 00:03:31,780 involved in, in my own music and you know, Jason played guitars 57 00:03:31,780 --> 00:03:37,580 for back in like 2019 and it's 2023 now, you know. 58 00:03:38,380 --> 00:03:41,500 And it's it's gone through a lot of its own hurdles. 59 00:03:41,500 --> 00:03:45,500 You know my own personal issues with my my record. 60 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,320 You know, that's just life, you know, making you take detours. 61 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:56,160 But we just had this small discussion on, you know, am I 62 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,520 holding myself back from, from releasing this? 63 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,880 And quite honest, I think it's not necessarily that I'm holding 64 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:10,160 myself back, but that what I'm building with my own music is 65 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,160 more than just an album. It's it's a story. 66 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:20,110 And there's. 27 pieces of artwork that goes along with it 67 00:04:20,149 --> 00:04:23,990 and you know, it's just this big conglomerate of you know, 68 00:04:23,990 --> 00:04:29,070 creativity. So struggled and been frustrated 69 00:04:29,190 --> 00:04:33,430 very much so with my own journey because this thing takes a long 70 00:04:33,430 --> 00:04:36,510 time to create. Frustration. 71 00:04:36,510 --> 00:04:39,710 Yes, very, very true. How do I deal with it? 72 00:04:41,020 --> 00:04:46,700 I remember why I do what I do. You know, I I am, I'm an 73 00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:51,700 educator, I'm a teacher. And you know, I whenever I show 74 00:04:52,140 --> 00:04:55,300 my students my work, it's still in progress. 75 00:04:55,300 --> 00:04:58,740 But you know, them knowing me personally gets them a little 76 00:04:58,740 --> 00:05:02,500 bit of access to it. They're very inspired by it and 77 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:08,180 they can't wait to hear it. So that certainly helps having 78 00:05:08,180 --> 00:05:12,280 having the feedback from. My students, my peers, and 79 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:16,160 people who have been on board and they're totally gung ho 80 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:21,840 about it, that that all helps. I think having a support that 81 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:25,200 you can rely on is is imperative. 82 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:32,600 If you if you are truly alone, it becomes very hard to move 83 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,200 past some of that mental blockage. 84 00:05:36,820 --> 00:05:39,220 I think you know, if you if you have somebody that you can lean 85 00:05:39,220 --> 00:05:43,460 on, whether that's a significant other, it's a business partner 86 00:05:43,460 --> 00:05:47,300 or it's a or, it's a really, really good friend because we 87 00:05:47,300 --> 00:05:51,220 we're human. We need to deflate, you know, as 88 00:05:51,220 --> 00:05:55,340 much as we need to also inflate our inspiration, you know, we 89 00:05:55,340 --> 00:06:00,020 also need to deflate certain things in life and decompressed 90 00:06:00,020 --> 00:06:03,580 and, you know, recenter ourselves and come back to it 91 00:06:03,580 --> 00:06:05,380 and be stronger than we were before. 92 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,640 It's not always easy getting back on that horse because when 93 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,280 you fall, you know you hurt your back, OK? 94 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:19,200 You know, because when you do, you're you're you're more 95 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,080 determined about it. It takes more to get back on 96 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,880 that horse the second time that it was the first time. 97 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,680 So you getting back on that is a telltale sign that you'll be 98 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,440 fine. You know, you just got to keep 99 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,440 going. And I I truly believe in that. 100 00:06:36,590 --> 00:06:38,190 You know, we've shared kind of the same struggle. 101 00:06:38,190 --> 00:06:40,750 You know, I've been working on an album as well, and I 102 00:06:40,750 --> 00:06:43,150 mentioned this on my channel on several podcasts. 103 00:06:43,150 --> 00:06:46,510 But Long story short, about 2 1/2 years ago, the album was 104 00:06:46,510 --> 00:06:48,470 pretty pretty close to being done. 105 00:06:48,910 --> 00:06:51,070 I even had the drums recorded for it. 106 00:06:51,070 --> 00:06:52,510 You know, Cameron Fleury out of Canada. 107 00:06:52,630 --> 00:06:55,430 He recorded the drum tracks for it and I had the rhythms down, 108 00:06:55,430 --> 00:06:58,330 had some of the leads down. But then I put everything on 109 00:06:58,330 --> 00:07:01,530 hold because Ken, you and I wanted to really pursue metal 110 00:07:01,530 --> 00:07:04,210 Mastermind and this was a a brand new adventure. 111 00:07:04,210 --> 00:07:07,850 So I'm like, well, chasing two large rabbits you you probably 112 00:07:07,850 --> 00:07:10,250 won't catch either one. So I'm like let me put that to 113 00:07:10,250 --> 00:07:14,610 the side because right now metal Mastermind is more important 114 00:07:14,610 --> 00:07:17,490 that we get this off the ground. You know, you and I had a vision 115 00:07:17,490 --> 00:07:18,890 for it. So we we've got to take this 116 00:07:18,890 --> 00:07:21,010 opportunity and run with it, which we did, which I'm, I'm 117 00:07:21,010 --> 00:07:23,890 proud of that decision. I would never take that back for 118 00:07:23,890 --> 00:07:25,330 anything. I love what we're doing. 119 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:27,830 Had we not started it, we wouldn't be sitting here right 120 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:31,390 now talking to you guys. But revisiting that album 2 121 00:07:31,390 --> 00:07:34,990 years later, it's like, oh, I don't like certain things. 122 00:07:34,990 --> 00:07:38,030 So I I have changed many, many things on the album. 123 00:07:38,470 --> 00:07:39,830 There are times where I want to scratch it. 124 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:42,510 I'm like, you know, maybe I'll just work on something another 125 00:07:42,510 --> 00:07:45,510 album and just scratch this whole thing, which I don't think 126 00:07:45,510 --> 00:07:47,070 that would be a good decision either. 127 00:07:47,070 --> 00:07:51,590 So anyway, I'm, I'm at the tail end of it here sometimes can and 128 00:07:51,590 --> 00:07:54,760 you, you and I both talked about this earlier and to everyone. 129 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,480 A lot of times our frustration can come in our ability and this 130 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,240 is something we talked quite a bit about, you know, metal 131 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,400 mastermind. And it's like we, you know, 132 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,760 you're an accomplished musician. Ken, you're an accomplished 133 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,760 composer. I've been playing guitar and 134 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,680 write music since 1989. I've been playing live, you 135 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:16,080 know, for just about that long. So but even with all that you 136 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,840 can, you can have those moments where you just lack off and it's 137 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,460 in yourself and your abilities. It's like okay was this, is this 138 00:08:23,460 --> 00:08:27,780 really good enough? You know, and out there nowadays 139 00:08:28,180 --> 00:08:30,060 everybody's a critic. I mean, I guess everybody's 140 00:08:30,060 --> 00:08:33,539 always been a critic, but you can base decisions off what you 141 00:08:33,539 --> 00:08:36,140 think others will think. And we've talked about this 142 00:08:36,140 --> 00:08:38,900 before as well. And I guess what I encourage you 143 00:08:38,900 --> 00:08:42,419 guys not to do is, well, it's just that don't worry about what 144 00:08:42,419 --> 00:08:46,540 others think, but don't worry about what you think others may 145 00:08:46,540 --> 00:08:48,500 think. A lot of that is just kind of 146 00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:50,580 conjured up in our own heads, right? 147 00:08:51,110 --> 00:08:52,510 There's a lot of negativity around. 148 00:08:52,510 --> 00:08:54,430 There is a lot of opinions floating around. 149 00:08:54,670 --> 00:08:58,110 But even the most confident people, you know, actors alike, 150 00:08:58,670 --> 00:09:00,270 they can lack confidence at times. 151 00:09:00,270 --> 00:09:02,390 And that's something I think we all can struggle with from time 152 00:09:02,390 --> 00:09:04,270 to time. Totally. 153 00:09:04,590 --> 00:09:06,870 Confidence is a huge factor in all of that. 154 00:09:07,070 --> 00:09:09,670 You know, the most successful people are usually the most 155 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:12,150 confident too. Yeah, they are. 156 00:09:12,310 --> 00:09:17,990 So building up confidence is a huge part of it and you know, 157 00:09:18,870 --> 00:09:21,420 is. You kind of have to grind 158 00:09:21,420 --> 00:09:23,340 through a bit. You know, you can't. 159 00:09:23,900 --> 00:09:27,140 You don't start off with just, you know, all this confidence, 160 00:09:28,500 --> 00:09:33,140 you know, sometimes, you know, even myself or you can feel like 161 00:09:33,140 --> 00:09:37,340 this imposter syndrome that, you know, are we, are we doing the 162 00:09:37,340 --> 00:09:39,340 right thing? Are we are we giving the value 163 00:09:39,340 --> 00:09:42,260 that we're supposed to give to people? 164 00:09:42,540 --> 00:09:46,380 You know, yeah, walk away thinking, oh, I can follow this 165 00:09:46,380 --> 00:09:50,260 guy. I mean as an educator, I I 166 00:09:50,260 --> 00:09:54,260 struggle with that for, for a while because you know just a 167 00:09:54,260 --> 00:09:59,380 little back story here at like 2019 was also when I started 168 00:10:00,180 --> 00:10:04,340 working as a as a professor, you know, a year before you know the 169 00:10:04,340 --> 00:10:08,740 pandemic and all of this was it kind of fell out of my lap. 170 00:10:08,740 --> 00:10:17,780 I didn't intend to go to my job that I have now as wanting to be 171 00:10:17,780 --> 00:10:20,560 a professor. I was actually going for an 172 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:28,240 interview to be a technician to to just you know run the studios 173 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,080 and things when they went down and all that kind of stuff. 174 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:39,560 But the my boss then had looked at my resume and said, hey, this 175 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:43,480 guy looks like he could be actually a decent teacher and. 176 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,360 You know, they asked me whether I'd be interested. 177 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:52,280 I said, I guess and you know, it went really well. 178 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,720 Well, and then I got the job. But even when I got the job, I 179 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,000 didn't, I didn't start off with like, hey, here's a handbook, 180 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,160 here's how you start teaching. You know, it's like, cuz I 181 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,920 wasn't, I wasn't involved in teaching at all. 182 00:11:08,210 --> 00:11:11,650 This straight like I actually told sometimes my teachers 183 00:11:11,650 --> 00:11:14,730 before I would say no, I I don't want to teach. 184 00:11:15,050 --> 00:11:17,010 Like I want to just be the engineer. 185 00:11:17,010 --> 00:11:20,970 I want to do that. And then coming here, I was just 186 00:11:20,970 --> 00:11:27,290 like, OK about and I was plopped into the middle of a semester. 187 00:11:27,290 --> 00:11:29,090 I wasn't even plopped in the beginning of 1. 188 00:11:29,410 --> 00:11:32,170 And they're like, OK you're just going to pick up where this guy 189 00:11:32,170 --> 00:11:34,530 left off. I was like, what? 190 00:11:35,970 --> 00:11:41,520 Talk about being. So, but it was a sink or swim 191 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:46,640 moment, you know. And I swam and it just kind of 192 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:55,760 naturally evolved over time as that I took on and became one 193 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,240 with being a teacher. I I say teaching chose me. 194 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:07,960 It wasn't me that chose teaching and that confidence over time. 195 00:12:08,470 --> 00:12:16,310 It became something that I embodied through the in some 196 00:12:16,310 --> 00:12:18,150 ways, the validation of my students. 197 00:12:18,190 --> 00:12:23,150 You know, when students had told me this was this was something 198 00:12:23,150 --> 00:12:27,830 that they benefited from, that certainly helped, or my 199 00:12:27,830 --> 00:12:31,590 employers, they told me that it benefited the school that 200 00:12:31,590 --> 00:12:34,750 certainly helped. And then, of course, there was 201 00:12:34,750 --> 00:12:39,940 my own nation. You know, to say that, yeah, you 202 00:12:39,940 --> 00:12:44,140 know, even though I don't know necessarily what this topic is 203 00:12:44,140 --> 00:12:46,100 about today, I'm going to figure it out. 204 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:48,620 I'm going to do a little bit of homework and I'm going to make a 205 00:12:48,620 --> 00:12:53,020 presentation about it to make. When I do talk about it, I can 206 00:12:53,020 --> 00:12:55,980 convey at least something that can get across to the student, 207 00:12:56,940 --> 00:12:59,300 and that was huge. You just nailed something very 208 00:12:59,300 --> 00:13:01,460 important, Ken, and something you and I learned from from Leah 209 00:13:01,460 --> 00:13:03,900 McHenry. In our time, the savvy musician 210 00:13:03,900 --> 00:13:09,560 Academy is we'll figure it out. You know, you're always going to 211 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:11,880 figure it out. If if you want to figure it out, 212 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,560 you'll find a way, man, you will find a way to do it. 213 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,920 So valuable lesson we learned is as simple as that is, you know, 214 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,360 very powerful. I mean, it's kind of like, you 215 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,720 know, when when I left my corporate job and I didn't have 216 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,360 the income that that that income was not replaced when I left my 217 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,080 corporate job three and half years ago, I took a voluntary 218 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,240 layoff and I've got it. I got a small severance, a 219 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,520 little bit of funds that they had in an investment account and 220 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,360 I'm like, all right, well this, this will hold us over till a 221 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,080 year, for about a year. And I'm like, well just I'll 222 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,680 have to figure out how this is going to work, you know and and 223 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:50,920 I eventually did and not to see it hasn't been a there are 224 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,000 always uncertainties when you work for yourself or when you 225 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,800 jump out there and do something that that is seemingly outside 226 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,360 of the norm. But, but again, you just figure 227 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,770 it out. Sometimes I believe that when 228 00:14:04,770 --> 00:14:07,250 you're back against the wall and certain things, man, because 229 00:14:07,250 --> 00:14:09,770 it's like, okay, I have to figure out a way. 230 00:14:09,770 --> 00:14:11,610 I don't want to go back to what I was doing. 231 00:14:11,770 --> 00:14:13,410 There's nothing wrong with what I was doing. 232 00:14:13,410 --> 00:14:15,690 I mean, I met some great people there, actually. 233 00:14:15,690 --> 00:14:18,330 I saw a dude that that I worked with, hadn't seen him and you 234 00:14:19,170 --> 00:14:20,410 worked there in the gym this morning. 235 00:14:20,410 --> 00:14:22,890 So, you know, I I met a lot of great people. 236 00:14:22,890 --> 00:14:25,610 I learned a lot of great things. So I certainly don't want to the 237 00:14:25,610 --> 00:14:28,410 same thing negative about my corporate gig. 238 00:14:28,410 --> 00:14:30,770 It was great. I if I didn't have this drive to 239 00:14:30,770 --> 00:14:34,970 do what I do now I'd probably still be no, it was it was it 240 00:14:34,970 --> 00:14:37,250 was a great position they had and I've worked with a lot of 241 00:14:37,250 --> 00:14:41,690 great people but I is I knew that there was something else 242 00:14:41,690 --> 00:14:43,650 that I wanted to do with my life and this was it. 243 00:14:44,370 --> 00:14:46,850 I just didn't know how I would I would make it as a fulltime 244 00:14:46,850 --> 00:14:49,570 musician. I'm like you know can we. 245 00:14:49,570 --> 00:14:52,330 We figured out this platform here metal mastermind and and 246 00:14:52,330 --> 00:14:56,570 some other things and you know here we are dude, we're we're in 247 00:14:56,570 --> 00:14:58,690 some people's eyes. We're living the dream and I'm 248 00:14:58,690 --> 00:15:02,330 very grateful for that. Even with the struggles, you 249 00:15:02,330 --> 00:15:06,630 know, and we probably won't get into that part on the podcast 250 00:15:06,630 --> 00:15:09,510 here, but you and I talked about some of the struggles. 251 00:15:09,510 --> 00:15:12,190 There's some financial struggles that come with with running your 252 00:15:12,190 --> 00:15:13,750 own platform. You know, there are some 253 00:15:13,750 --> 00:15:18,590 uncertainties that come, there are good times there, a lot of 254 00:15:18,590 --> 00:15:22,950 peaks and valleys, but you just have to know that no matter 255 00:15:22,950 --> 00:15:24,390 what, you're going to figure it out. 256 00:15:25,150 --> 00:15:29,030 Yeah, you have made a great point there. 257 00:15:29,230 --> 00:15:37,640 I I also really. Firmly believe that growth is 258 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,360 equivalent to recognizing resistance and so when you when 259 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:48,080 you come to a point where there's a there's your your 260 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:54,000 movement forward, it's all about deliberating and deciphering 261 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:00,560 what is the resistance that's in the way and how to you know. 262 00:16:00,900 --> 00:16:02,700 Get around. I actually received the 263 00:16:02,700 --> 00:16:06,300 compliment from a good friend of mine who said, you know, the 264 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:11,900 thing about you is you always seem to, you know, be like a cat 265 00:16:11,980 --> 00:16:15,060 landing on its two feet. Yeah. 266 00:16:15,060 --> 00:16:17,500 And I said, you know, I appreciate that. 267 00:16:17,500 --> 00:16:21,140 I, you know, I don't always know how things are going to work 268 00:16:21,140 --> 00:16:24,860 out. But you know that that does warm 269 00:16:24,860 --> 00:16:27,020 my heart. You have to be able to. 270 00:16:27,690 --> 00:16:31,810 Adapt and you know still land on your two feet and you don't know 271 00:16:31,810 --> 00:16:35,130 what you know and you take a risk here, you know that could 272 00:16:35,130 --> 00:16:40,290 mean cascading effect way or that way. 273 00:16:40,290 --> 00:16:43,810 And you know sometimes it's just it's okay you. 274 00:16:43,810 --> 00:16:46,650 Sometimes you just have to take a calculated risk and say you 275 00:16:46,650 --> 00:16:48,770 know this is what I'm going to do. 276 00:16:48,770 --> 00:16:54,490 And I will say this, ever since starting Metal Mastermind, 277 00:16:56,050 --> 00:16:59,240 things have been. Much easier for me to work 278 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,400 around. That is an absolute fact. 279 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,800 The challenges that come across with making a platform like 280 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,560 this, having to build the website, having to build the 281 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,000 intricate payment system, having to build. 282 00:17:14,430 --> 00:17:18,589 The marketing, the blogging, the YouTube video, Facebook ads, all 283 00:17:18,589 --> 00:17:20,990 this stuff that you don't really think about when you start 284 00:17:20,990 --> 00:17:23,069 getting into business. We've done so much, man. 285 00:17:23,310 --> 00:17:27,390 Yeah, there's so much that goes into doing an online business. 286 00:17:27,390 --> 00:17:30,990 And you realize you're like, Oh my God, this is like a behemoth. 287 00:17:31,350 --> 00:17:33,630 We built an entire course platform on top of that. 288 00:17:33,670 --> 00:17:35,230 So we didn't outsource any of this either. 289 00:17:35,230 --> 00:17:36,550 Ken and I built this whole thing ourselves. 290 00:17:36,550 --> 00:17:39,190 So yeah, not to say you shouldn't outsource things. 291 00:17:39,190 --> 00:17:42,030 I believe been getting getting proper help, but you know from 292 00:17:42,030 --> 00:17:44,510 from the ground up when you're just starting, it's like you you 293 00:17:44,510 --> 00:17:47,830 kind of take when when you we didn't have any funding or 294 00:17:47,830 --> 00:17:50,750 anything like that. We just like, hey, let's do 295 00:17:50,750 --> 00:17:52,150 this. So we just kind of did it, you 296 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:54,910 know, and boom. Yeah, I mean there's there's a 297 00:17:55,030 --> 00:17:59,070 there's a good and bad to that. You know when it's time to hire 298 00:17:59,070 --> 00:18:01,290 somebody? The bad news is that it takes a 299 00:18:01,290 --> 00:18:03,610 long time because in the beginning you're like, why do I 300 00:18:03,610 --> 00:18:05,370 need to hire this guy? I can do it myself. 301 00:18:07,010 --> 00:18:10,370 So you get a lot more time just doing things yourself and that 302 00:18:10,370 --> 00:18:15,850 can be very overwhelming. And my gosh, the amount of 303 00:18:15,850 --> 00:18:21,210 emails is like, how many emails do we have to? 304 00:18:21,570 --> 00:18:25,530 It's kind of insane, man. So it's a process, though, 305 00:18:25,530 --> 00:18:28,210 that's what we're saying. And when you decide that you're 306 00:18:28,210 --> 00:18:31,010 gonna build. Something that you want to 307 00:18:31,010 --> 00:18:34,730 create as your legacy, you know, whether that's your music or 308 00:18:34,730 --> 00:18:37,690 it's building a flower shop, who knows? 309 00:18:37,690 --> 00:18:41,810 It's it's all about, you know, making sure that you're staying 310 00:18:41,810 --> 00:18:45,210 true to what it is that you, you you stand for. 311 00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:47,970 You know, if you, if you don't really have your heart in it, 312 00:18:48,410 --> 00:18:51,850 it's infinitely more, more, more challenging. 313 00:18:52,370 --> 00:18:54,410 And you have to always remain true to that. 314 00:18:54,410 --> 00:18:57,330 You have to always say even though, despite the fact that 315 00:18:57,330 --> 00:19:01,130 you might be frustrated. Is this still your life's 316 00:19:01,130 --> 00:19:04,250 mission? And if you still say yes, then 317 00:19:04,610 --> 00:19:08,010 yeah, okay, then you, you know, this is just a hump in the road 318 00:19:08,730 --> 00:19:12,690 and you'll get through it. But yeah, if if you don't, if 319 00:19:12,690 --> 00:19:16,730 you don't feel that way, then you you need to really think 320 00:19:16,730 --> 00:19:19,570 about the resistance that you have in your life and why that's 321 00:19:19,570 --> 00:19:22,850 the case. I I love that resistance, man. 322 00:19:22,850 --> 00:19:25,450 You know, I I think I sent you a little video on the way home 323 00:19:25,450 --> 00:19:28,100 from the gym this morning. Being underweight. 324 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:29,740 You guys know, I I love weight training. 325 00:19:29,740 --> 00:19:33,460 That's something that's been a staple in my life from an early 326 00:19:33,460 --> 00:19:35,940 age, something I'll do for the rest of my life, just as much as 327 00:19:35,940 --> 00:19:39,500 I'll play music and know I'm competing and all that stuff or 328 00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:40,740 whatever. It's just something I love to 329 00:19:40,740 --> 00:19:42,980 do. But I was telling Ken, I'm like, 330 00:19:42,980 --> 00:19:45,660 think about you've got this weight on your chest. 331 00:19:45,660 --> 00:19:47,300 Let's say it's a bench press for example. 332 00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:51,370 And yeah, we want to be, you know, all in like we just push 333 00:19:51,410 --> 00:19:52,810 through it. But sometimes the weight is 334 00:19:52,810 --> 00:19:56,770 actually too heavy and it is not moving and it is crushing you. 335 00:19:56,770 --> 00:20:02,290 So you have to know when to make the appropriate move and pivot 336 00:20:02,570 --> 00:20:06,050 and like you said, can earlier adapt, adapt to the changes, 337 00:20:06,130 --> 00:20:08,650 pivot accordingly. I'm like you might sometimes 338 00:20:08,650 --> 00:20:11,010 need to slide out from under that weight. 339 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,760 Okay. And then go to something else 340 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,720 that's going to build that. Sometimes it's not about just 341 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,840 pushing through, because sometimes we can push towards 342 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,600 something and it's just not budging. 343 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,080 And then we'll spend a lot of time and energy trying to push 344 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,040 something that maybe it wasn't meant to be pushed at all. 345 00:20:28,690 --> 00:20:32,530 Now that thing you're pushing is not your your overall vision, 346 00:20:32,530 --> 00:20:34,770 your passion, your dream is above all that. 347 00:20:34,770 --> 00:20:36,850 Your vision for your life is above all that. 348 00:20:36,850 --> 00:20:38,930 It's above the weight that you're trying to push in your 349 00:20:38,930 --> 00:20:41,930 life right now, right? Some of you may be struggling 350 00:20:41,930 --> 00:20:44,890 with a certain thing, and you're just trying to push and push and 351 00:20:44,890 --> 00:20:46,770 push. Not in every situation, but 352 00:20:46,770 --> 00:20:50,090 maybe the answer isn't necessarily pushing through that 353 00:20:50,090 --> 00:20:54,610 particular weight, but pivoting and finding a way around that. 354 00:20:55,090 --> 00:20:56,650 This going to kind of make you flow. 355 00:20:56,650 --> 00:20:59,330 Like I love what Bruce Lee said, he's like, you know, flow like 356 00:20:59,330 --> 00:21:01,570 water. So maybe there's another crevice 357 00:21:01,570 --> 00:21:05,490 in there that you need to be exploring to get through or get 358 00:21:05,490 --> 00:21:09,370 around so that you can pursue that vision that you have. 359 00:21:10,170 --> 00:21:12,650 Hopefully that makes sense. Absolutely no. 360 00:21:12,650 --> 00:21:16,010 Yeah. Not forcing things to to work, 361 00:21:16,370 --> 00:21:19,900 you know, it's it's it's like. You know, it's another good 362 00:21:19,900 --> 00:21:24,100 analogy is you ever try, like, unscrewing something and you 363 00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:25,740 realize, oh man, this is really tough. 364 00:21:25,740 --> 00:21:28,420 So let me just, like, let me just wrench it and, like, really 365 00:21:28,420 --> 00:21:30,980 try forcing it out. And then all of a sudden it 366 00:21:30,980 --> 00:21:33,300 breaks the thing that you were actually working with and you're 367 00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:36,980 like, God Dang it, well, that's exactly the idea, you know. 368 00:21:36,980 --> 00:21:39,340 And if you keep forcing things, you're eventually just going to 369 00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:42,100 strip the screw. So we talked about this earlier. 370 00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:43,660 We know. We even talked about there. 371 00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:47,100 There's a fine balance because I I can be a workaholic coming 372 00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:50,560 from the corporate background. It's like always someone 373 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,360 creating more work to do and there's always stuff right. 374 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:56,200 But it it it's not necessarily things that are moving the 375 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,680 needle forward. It's this is just kind of like 376 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,000 busy work. It's not really not really doing 377 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,640 anything, you know. And I can, I have been, I've 378 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,920 been the king of just staying busy of of doing more and doing 379 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,200 more and doing more can run on the treadmill really, really 380 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,920 fast and just put all the effort into that and not go anywhere. 381 00:22:15,380 --> 00:22:19,660 So it goes back to that balance of do put in the work. 382 00:22:19,660 --> 00:22:21,180 Yes, you need to put in the work. 383 00:22:21,180 --> 00:22:24,820 You need to work hard work. I mean that that would get you 384 00:22:24,820 --> 00:22:27,900 so far, right. You need to work diligently and 385 00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:32,100 work smart and work on doing the appropriate thing to get you to 386 00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:34,140 that next level. Sometimes that might be a little 387 00:22:34,140 --> 00:22:35,620 difficult, sometimes it might not. 388 00:22:35,820 --> 00:22:38,220 There's a balance between putting in the time and putting 389 00:22:38,220 --> 00:22:40,780 in the the work and the energy of balance between that. 390 00:22:41,060 --> 00:22:45,700 And also can you and I talked about being the type of person 391 00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:49,420 having the type of mindset that attracts great things. 392 00:22:49,460 --> 00:22:52,580 If you marry those two concepts together, I believe you're 393 00:22:52,580 --> 00:22:55,900 unstoppable. Yeah, and if you can remove as 394 00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:59,380 much distraction as possible, that would be ideal. 395 00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:04,580 I have been turning off notifications from all of my 396 00:23:04,580 --> 00:23:08,140 apps, all of the social media apps, all of this, all of that, 397 00:23:08,460 --> 00:23:12,140 even when you don't necessarily respond to any of that. 398 00:23:12,570 --> 00:23:15,490 Your eyes wander. You know, they look at the 399 00:23:15,490 --> 00:23:19,290 phone, they looked at, there's a notification, your screen turns 400 00:23:19,290 --> 00:23:22,810 on, and just a second of time that is away from what you 401 00:23:22,810 --> 00:23:24,970 should be doing. And it could very much, like, 402 00:23:25,050 --> 00:23:27,690 lose your train of thought. When I started doing that, I 403 00:23:27,690 --> 00:23:30,850 started noticing that I was a lot less stressed about certain 404 00:23:30,850 --> 00:23:35,490 things and that I got just a little bit more done. 405 00:23:35,650 --> 00:23:38,410 Sometimes what you can do is set a timer for yourself. 406 00:23:40,130 --> 00:23:42,290 You know, let's say once every 30 minutes. 407 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,600 And at 30 minutes, a 2 minute break, a 5 minute break, 408 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,960 whatever, so that you can just alleviate yourself from just 409 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,960 constantly getting too swallowed in your work and just giving 410 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,200 yourself that mental break. These are all just tips and 411 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,880 tricks. You know, you find what works 412 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,800 for you, but eliminating distractions is super, super 413 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,640 helpful. And when you, you know, you do 414 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,240 something like turning off your notifications. 415 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,640 I mean, it's it's an amazing thing. 416 00:24:11,890 --> 00:24:16,690 How much you actually realize, Oh my God, like, I just spent 417 00:24:16,770 --> 00:24:19,570 time just like focusing on stuff that didn't matter. 418 00:24:19,810 --> 00:24:23,210 Like you were talking about the busy work, you know, and it's 419 00:24:23,210 --> 00:24:30,450 like okay I had I have to like recall my time and put this 420 00:24:31,410 --> 00:24:34,850 where where I really care about. Yeah. 421 00:24:35,050 --> 00:24:38,170 And that's that's so. That's so pivotal and it changed 422 00:24:38,490 --> 00:24:41,530 quite a bit of my focus. I've been really busy lately 423 00:24:41,530 --> 00:24:46,650 with just my job. But honestly, when I do get to 424 00:24:46,650 --> 00:24:48,890 work, I do get to work, man, it does. 425 00:24:49,770 --> 00:24:55,410 It does do a a a good deed. And you know, again, it it it 426 00:24:55,410 --> 00:24:58,850 is, you know, my project is something that takes so long to 427 00:24:58,850 --> 00:25:02,730 do because of all the detail that's required in it. 428 00:25:03,230 --> 00:25:08,430 But if I wasn't so you know determined and focused do it it 429 00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:11,630 it it would be it wouldn't see the light of day and I know it 430 00:25:11,630 --> 00:25:14,950 will it it you know I can be frustrated all I want that it's 431 00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:17,670 not out in the world now you just got to take the time that 432 00:25:17,670 --> 00:25:20,990 it's going to take it will happen when it was meant to 433 00:25:20,990 --> 00:25:24,310 happen like you said to you know not forcing it. 434 00:25:25,790 --> 00:25:29,110 Sometimes these things they they will come to fruition. 435 00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:31,790 When they come to fruition, it's not like. 436 00:25:32,260 --> 00:25:35,860 Oh, I got to get and catch the bus, you know, in 10 minutes, 437 00:25:35,860 --> 00:25:38,020 and that's my deadline. It's not like that. 438 00:25:38,020 --> 00:25:41,700 It's it's a longterm thing. If you're creating something 439 00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:45,780 from scratch and this is the first time anybody will hear it, 440 00:25:46,340 --> 00:25:48,300 give it the love that it needs the TLC. 441 00:25:49,420 --> 00:25:51,860 Don't stress about that too much. 442 00:25:53,180 --> 00:25:56,820 It's okay to feel a certain type of way of where you are in the 443 00:25:56,820 --> 00:26:00,420 project, but you just need to let it breathe. 444 00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:05,620 And let it do its thing. Do it right first, you know, you 445 00:26:05,620 --> 00:26:06,820 know. Then when you get the Netflix 446 00:26:06,860 --> 00:26:10,060 deal was like I mentioned, it's like the question I asked 447 00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:13,220 earlier and and and can correct me if you feel differently about 448 00:26:13,220 --> 00:26:15,100 this man. But I mean would you say there 449 00:26:15,220 --> 00:26:17,940 there's a balance between, you know what you're talking about, 450 00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:23,780 but at the same time don't allow that to be an excuse to not move 451 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:26,940 forward and not work on things. You know, sometimes you say, 452 00:26:26,940 --> 00:26:28,880 well, it's just the, and I've done this before, This is why 453 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,960 I'm sharing it. You know, it's like I won't work 454 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,760 as much as I need to on that project. 455 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,920 And I'll just say, oh, it's just taking time. 456 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,640 It's a big project. So I think maybe there's a fine 457 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,680 balance between maybe do give yourself some deadlines without 458 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,920 destroying the creative process. Because I understand that just 459 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,960 because I schedule time to write music today doesn't mean that 460 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,520 great music's going to come out, you know, So we all, we all get 461 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,680 that there, dude. It will take me days to write 462 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,520 lyrics for a song where other times I can crank it out like in 463 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,960 30 minutes. It just an I I don't know how 464 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,400 much control that we have over that may maybe more than we 465 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,000 think go, you know, go with a steady pace but also allow the 466 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,680 creative process to do its thing as well and understand it 467 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,920 doesn't have to be done right now. 468 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,800 I think it is a good idea to give ourselves certain deadlines 469 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,800 and schedule things out to where, OK, this is what I'm 470 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,680 focused. On 100% and and I I hope that my 471 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,000 message was not to to say that you can just relax about 472 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,720 everything. I think that not beat yourself 473 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,600 up if something's taking a long time. 474 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,480 Sometimes things just need to take a little bit longer than 475 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,290 other things. Yes, if if you want to continue 476 00:27:41,290 --> 00:27:49,090 to do you know music or anything that's in the arts, time in time 477 00:27:49,090 --> 00:27:52,570 is relative. If you are in the in the middle 478 00:27:53,290 --> 00:27:57,730 of, you know, creating your first album, then you should 479 00:27:57,730 --> 00:28:03,370 just take the necessary time in order to make the right album 480 00:28:03,370 --> 00:28:05,850 for yourself. Because you know, what if it's 481 00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:10,350 your first album? You don't have an audience 482 00:28:10,350 --> 00:28:14,390 that's begging you for this content. 483 00:28:14,990 --> 00:28:18,590 So just make it right, you know, take a little bit more time to 484 00:28:18,590 --> 00:28:22,270 make it right. Don't, don't put yourself in a 485 00:28:22,270 --> 00:28:27,470 predicament where you, you, you, you just want it out there and 486 00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:32,430 not necessarily the thing that you wanted to put, you know? 487 00:28:32,430 --> 00:28:34,950 And there there's a thing, there's a truth to it too of, 488 00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:37,110 you know, just do it and just move forward. 489 00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:39,190 But. Your intention is to create 490 00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:41,910 something, and if you don't know what it is and you need to just 491 00:28:41,910 --> 00:28:47,750 experiment to do that, but just do it in a way that you could 492 00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:50,550 live with yourself. Look, when I when I made my 493 00:28:50,550 --> 00:28:53,510 first Homeric album, I had no idea that it was cinematic 494 00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:54,710 metal. I had no idea. 495 00:28:55,150 --> 00:29:00,990 You know, I just experimented. I created a lot of music and I 496 00:29:00,990 --> 00:29:05,470 called it in the beginning, symphonic progressive death 497 00:29:05,470 --> 00:29:06,940 metal. That's what I called it. 498 00:29:07,260 --> 00:29:08,500 Yeah. Which is cool, man. 499 00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:10,380 Which is really cool, I mean. It's cool. 500 00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:15,180 Also didn't really understand at that time what I was really what 501 00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:18,260 I was really creating. So, you know, sometimes you do 502 00:29:18,260 --> 00:29:21,940 need to go through the process then find out this is where it 503 00:29:21,940 --> 00:29:25,300 takes you. That's another truth to it too. 504 00:29:25,780 --> 00:29:28,020 You know, there's a lot of truth to all of this. 505 00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:34,660 What what's important is whether or not you feel best represents 506 00:29:34,660 --> 00:29:40,020 you now. Because in the future, whatever 507 00:29:40,020 --> 00:29:43,700 it is that you decide to put out, it's always going to be 508 00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:47,940 using that as a reference. And you have to also be aware 509 00:29:48,020 --> 00:29:52,900 that your followers are going to expect a certain thing. 510 00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:57,020 So when you decide that you're going to get, you know, onto 511 00:29:57,020 --> 00:30:01,460 your second, your third, your 4th, there is going to be 512 00:30:01,540 --> 00:30:05,420 already some frame of reference for somebody. 513 00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:09,430 You're going to have to either step it up, you're going to have 514 00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:13,670 to either you know, make more. You're going to have to develop 515 00:30:13,670 --> 00:30:17,070 it somehow. It's a tough thing to to to 516 00:30:17,070 --> 00:30:19,750 really crack. It's it's not something that 517 00:30:19,910 --> 00:30:24,830 there's like a cheat code for it, just it's just you working 518 00:30:24,830 --> 00:30:28,070 at it. It's a tough thing to to to 519 00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:30,750 really crack. It's it's not something that 520 00:30:30,910 --> 00:30:36,010 there's like a cheat code for. It just it's just you working at 521 00:30:36,010 --> 00:30:39,650 it and enjoying the process as it goes along. 522 00:30:41,010 --> 00:30:45,730 Don't let the short term frustrations demotivate you to 523 00:30:45,730 --> 00:30:47,810 stop. You just gotta muscle through it 524 00:30:47,810 --> 00:30:50,850 man, and it's okay. Sometimes it can be a little 525 00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:55,450 hard but don't worry about it it'll the pain will pass. 526 00:30:56,060 --> 00:30:57,620 It will pass. I I think we did figure out a 527 00:30:57,620 --> 00:31:02,180 cheat code for that on down a B left right something like that 528 00:31:02,180 --> 00:31:04,860 oh the days of old school Nintendo man the spot of the 529 00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:06,580 times of that. There there's this real cool 530 00:31:06,580 --> 00:31:09,060 game by the way not to get off track but it was called Ultima 531 00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:10,540 4. It was a role-playing game. 532 00:31:10,540 --> 00:31:15,140 But yeah you know you mentioned the journey guys and I I you you 533 00:31:15,140 --> 00:31:19,980 must okay this is this is a command from Ken and I the like 534 00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:22,610 part of the whatever commandments however commands we 535 00:31:22,610 --> 00:31:24,890 have for metal mastermind well this is a command. 536 00:31:25,090 --> 00:31:30,090 You must enjoy the journey guys embrace the journey even even 537 00:31:30,090 --> 00:31:33,970 the hiccups man you know if you if you learn to even embrace the 538 00:31:33,970 --> 00:31:37,090 hiccups. I've learned so much about 539 00:31:37,090 --> 00:31:40,330 myself especially this year. One of the things like I don't 540 00:31:40,330 --> 00:31:43,090 get I don't get frustrated in traffic anymore you know I just 541 00:31:43,090 --> 00:31:45,370 I chose not to. It's a decision you make, right? 542 00:31:45,370 --> 00:31:48,060 You can choose. Because when we get frustrated, 543 00:31:48,060 --> 00:31:49,980 we're living in that past moment, right? 544 00:31:50,140 --> 00:31:53,780 Rather, I I choose to enjoy the journey along the way. 545 00:31:54,340 --> 00:31:56,700 So if I'm stuck in traffic, maybe I look off to the side and 546 00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:58,620 I see something unique. Maybe there's a Bunny rabbit 547 00:31:58,620 --> 00:31:59,940 over there. We saw some bunnies the other 548 00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:01,540 day. You know, it's just weird stuff, 549 00:32:01,540 --> 00:32:03,420 guys. Even the painful parts. 550 00:32:04,460 --> 00:32:05,940 Sometimes you can laugh at yourself. 551 00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:08,610 You can joke about it. Sometimes you have to be a 552 00:32:08,610 --> 00:32:10,850 little bit more serious about things, you know, depending on 553 00:32:10,850 --> 00:32:13,810 what it is, But allow yourself to be frustrated, but maybe just 554 00:32:13,810 --> 00:32:16,250 for a few seconds and you just go back to you know what, This 555 00:32:16,250 --> 00:32:18,410 is part of the journey and and I love what I'm doing. 556 00:32:18,410 --> 00:32:20,770 I love what I'm pursuing and I'm gonna enjoy the ride. 557 00:32:21,970 --> 00:32:27,570 Beautifully said, man. So Jason, what's your metal song 558 00:32:27,890 --> 00:32:31,330 of the week today? Dude, dude, it is. 559 00:32:31,770 --> 00:32:33,290 I'm looking up on my phone right now. 560 00:32:33,290 --> 00:32:36,600 I I sent this to you this morning when I was in the gym, a 561 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:42,200 song by a band called Deceased and it's called The Kept KEPT 562 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,280 the kept by Deceased and that was from their 2005 album. 563 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,480 As the weird travel on the recording of this album was kind 564 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,720 of, I don't want to say raw, not in a sense that they're not 565 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,200 tight, they're tight, but it kind of reminded me of player 566 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,880 type stuff. But this is more, you know, more 567 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,710 definitely. But just kind of you had that 568 00:33:03,710 --> 00:33:05,830 raw energy to it, if that makes sense, man. 569 00:33:05,870 --> 00:33:10,070 You know, it was overproduced. And I know we probably overuse 570 00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:13,270 that word these days. It's really kind of some classic 571 00:33:13,270 --> 00:33:14,990 death metal if there's such a thing. 572 00:33:14,990 --> 00:33:17,030 And I just, I don't know, man, there's a vibe to it that I 573 00:33:17,030 --> 00:33:18,830 really love. I'm like, you know what, This is 574 00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:20,070 the song of the week. This is it. 575 00:33:20,070 --> 00:33:22,390 We're going to. So yeah, they kept by the band 576 00:33:22,390 --> 00:33:27,910 called Deceased. My choice was warming. 577 00:33:29,220 --> 00:33:32,700 Warmin is a is a is a band that I think was an offshoot from 578 00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:34,580 Children Of Bodom. I think it's the keyboardist 579 00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:40,020 players band and there's this whole song on the album called 580 00:33:40,020 --> 00:33:43,420 Accept the Fate, The Return of Salieri. 581 00:33:44,020 --> 00:33:45,980 I like that one a lot. It's got a little bit of a 582 00:33:45,980 --> 00:33:50,020 neoclassical type of vibe and I'm into all that baroque stuff. 583 00:33:50,020 --> 00:33:53,500 So Salieri was actually a classical composer, which is 584 00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:54,380 pretty cool. So. 585 00:33:57,340 --> 00:33:59,700 Well, guys, that wraps it up for another episode of Metal 586 00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:01,380 Mastermind. Thank you so much for being a 587 00:34:01,380 --> 00:34:05,460 part of this awesome musician community that we've all created 588 00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:07,100 here. And we really hope you got 589 00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:08,980 something out of today's podcast. 590 00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:12,820 I mean, all of our podcast, but you know, we we kind of went in 591 00:34:12,820 --> 00:34:15,260 some heartfelt stuff. Hey, Speaking of Metal 592 00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:19,340 Mastermind and your skills and and, you know, really growing 593 00:34:19,340 --> 00:34:21,340 your confidence, do check out our courses. 594 00:34:21,340 --> 00:34:24,420 We have the guitar courses. Ken has a theory course. 595 00:34:24,420 --> 00:34:27,550 We've got vocal courses. We've got a whole library online 596 00:34:27,550 --> 00:34:31,429 courses you can take at metalmastermindcom, so do check 597 00:34:31,429 --> 00:34:34,270 those out guys. And until next time, as always, 598 00:34:34,270 --> 00:34:35,909 create your own sound.