1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,640 Hi everybody, and welcome to another episode of Metal 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,960 Mastermind. I'm your host, Ken Candelas, and 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:20,440 we have here today the lovely wife of Ken Candelas, Elizabeth 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,760 Candelas. Hi. 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,840 How are you, Ellie? I'm doing good, I'm doing good. 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,560 I'm glad to be here. Yeah, things have kind of 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,520 switched up here at Metal Mastermind and we're going to 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,720 get to that shortly. But Ellie, it's been a while 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,840 since you've been on the podcast and you are actually our new Co 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,520 host and I want to just invite people to know a little bit more 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,400 about who you are. So why don't you just give 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,680 everybody a little bit of a back story of who Ellie is, where'd 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,120 you come from, all of that kind of good stuff so that everybody 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,200 has an idea of what we're going to be talking about today. 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,480 Yeah, sure. So yeah, I've definitely, I've 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,400 been on the podcast as a guest a couple times. 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,640 Love just hanging out and talking with you and Jason. 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:11,240 But yeah, I am the vocal instructor at Metal Mastermind. 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,600 I have been since the very beginning. 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:18,280 I have like my course on there, Metal Vocal Virtuoso and now 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,320 working very closely with you, Ken. 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,720 I am the operations manager and also instructor and coach and 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,880 the full time customer support team. 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,520 That's me. Yeah, and you've been killing 25 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,680 it, Ellie. Thank you. 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,480 So much for really working hard. Yeah. 27 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,040 Well, it's, it's really important that people get to 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,000 know a little bit of who you are because I think in the context 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,880 of what we're doing here at Metal Mastermind, it's a very 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:51,600 personal relationship as we have tried to increase with our 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,320 students and moving forward, everybody who's listening to the 32 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,480 podcast, that's what you're going to get more of with Ellie 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,000 on board. She is going to be able to 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,680 attend to, you know, a lot of the needs that everybody may 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,800 have, especially during this time of transition, which really 36 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,160 has sort of started since the beginning of November. 37 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,560 So let me just preface everything by just saying that 38 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,640 Jason walking away from mental mastermind has happened. 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,880 That is official. It was an amicable, you know, 40 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,880 separation. I I want everybody to understand 41 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,400 that Jason and I, we have no bad blood. 42 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,280 Jason decided he wanted to do just do his own venture and 43 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,520 that's totally fine. And so that left us, Elizabeth 44 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:49,160 and I, with the basically the reins to do Metal Mastermind as 45 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,000 we so see fit. And we're trying to elevate the 46 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,480 platform in order to be a better service to you. 47 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,840 So you probably, if you've been looking at metalmastermind.com, 48 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,400 you've probably noticed a couple of changes, and these are all 49 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,480 really important changes that I also want to discuss today with 50 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,400 Ellie here beside me. And I couldn't think of a better 51 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,720 partner than my wife. Thank you. 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:20,640 Yeah, so Ellie, you know, let's let's really kind of talk about 53 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:26,880 our vision here because Metal Mastermind, the entire slogan 54 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,880 that we've been using for, you know, years now, it's like 55 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:33,560 create your own sound and or it's really our tag and I'm 56 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,920 really proud of that. And but we're we're trying to do 57 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:42,200 this new thing which is being the ultimate resource for metal 58 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,640 artists. And let's just kind of start 59 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,880 with a little bit of your background as being a metal 60 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,840 artist. And how do you think, you know, 61 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,240 Metal Mastermind is going to help you as a metal artist? 62 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,080 Because I think if we talk about the story here, I think it'll be 63 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,080 a little bit easier to, you know, relate to other folks who 64 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,960 are listening on the podcast. So let's start with your 65 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,320 beginnings and then we'll sort of talk about the vision that we 66 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,520 have here. Yeah, absolutely. 67 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,279 I'm excited to talk about this. I think it'll just give our 68 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:21,600 listeners a chance to really understand who we are just as 69 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,160 partners in general. You know, Ken and I, we've been 70 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,440 friends. We've known each other since 71 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:31,320 high school and in our early 20s we reconnected, became friends 72 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,640 because we both shared this common interest that we had 73 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:41,040 these big visions for our music. We wanted to build an empire 74 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,400 with their music. We had a a deep, complex concept 75 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,760 and story and we we heard the melody swirl around in our heads 76 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,920 and very passionate about it. And it's something that we 77 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,360 related to, we understood about each other. 78 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,640 And I'm a singer, he's a drummer. 79 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,400 And you know, if you have like a specific vision and like, like 80 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,240 you hear the whole song play out in your head pretty much, but 81 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,720 you don't play all the instruments. 82 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,760 And you know, it's, it's important to learn what you can 83 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,480 learn, what resources you can to make that vision happen because 84 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,840 it's our purpose, you know? So he encouraged me to go back 85 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:22,360 to school to study music production, audio engineering, 86 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,400 which is where I learned how to use Pro Tools and Sibelius and 87 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,560 compose my own music the way that I wanted it to. 88 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,680 Meanwhile, I was watching him compose Homeric and getting 89 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,360 inspired by that. And as a singer, I felt like I 90 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,320 had so much power. I didn't have to rely on 91 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,520 musicians right away during my creative process. 92 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:48,760 I could just create this, build a, you know, with Sibelius, used 93 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,680 stuttering with Sibelius. I could learn how to create 94 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,240 musical scores and find musicians to play it, play my 95 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,800 music, my compositions. And that was such a big, 96 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,280 powerful moment in my life when I got to that point. 97 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:09,640 And the Inner circle, we both just knew what it needed to be 98 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,880 because that's who we are as a couple. 99 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:18,000 That's our our mutual understanding that artists, they 100 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,640 have a vision, they have, they see a whole story, they hear the 101 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,560 music in their head and they want to make it happen. 102 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,200 And the Inner Circle is going to guide them through that because 103 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,120 it's what we wanted when we were doing it. 104 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:32,880 And now we want to offer that to you guys. 105 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,920 So that's what the Inner Circle really came from with me and 106 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,960 Ken's experience together. Absolutely. 107 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,280 And with all that being said, Metal Mastermind as a whole 108 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:50,880 always was seeking to create a resource for people in the metal 109 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,560 community for them to empower themselves. 110 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,640 You'll notice that whenever we talk about Metal Mastermind, 111 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,520 it's always really about the independent artist, never really 112 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,920 about record labels or things like that. 113 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,480 Mostly because we are independent artists. 114 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,200 This is our Forte, this is what we focus on. 115 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,400 And So what we've learned across, you know, multiple 116 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,880 platforms of like educating ourselves on marketing or going 117 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,720 to universities and trying to learn audio production and all 118 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:25,120 this kind of stuff, these we found it to be a very disjointed 119 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,760 way of learning how to be a modern musician. 120 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:34,320 So Metal Mastermind became a focus point, especially, you 121 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,880 know, for me and Jason in the very beginning. 122 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,080 But you know, now it's sort of matured into its own entity. 123 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,280 Metal Mastermind is is sort of simplifying the process of being 124 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,920 the metal artist that you've always wanted to be and having 125 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,080 all of those resources in one place. 126 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,840 Now the inner Circle is a brand new product that we have on 127 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Metal Mastermind. Anybody who's ever bought from 128 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,040 Metal Mastermind before, you'll notice that you have your 129 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,680 courses that you can still purchase. 130 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,280 We we do not want to take away the power of you wanting to 131 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,920 actually just buy a course one time fee upfront. 132 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,880 You totally do that. We still believe in you owning 133 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,640 the product that you want to buy. 134 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,160 But we also have another option, which is just to make it a 135 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,000 little bit more accessible for folks who may not necessarily 136 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,400 know if they just want to buy one product, but they want to 137 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,320 become the total package. And that's the inner circle. 138 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:34,600 That's what it's really all about. 139 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,240 It's to give you a guide throughout your entire career. 140 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:44,560 And yeah, you, you know, you become a member that we update 141 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:49,120 the courses that we have in the inner circle exclusively so that 142 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,880 you're always getting the top notch value that you're, you're 143 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,680 paying for. And so the inner circle, it 144 00:08:56,680 --> 00:09:02,880 became part of this venture as a way to help us sort of formulate 145 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,880 in, in many ways, this is what I wish I was able to have when I 146 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,560 was starting out is to formulate structure in in in our lives, in 147 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:14,840 creating something that can hold us accountable. 148 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,520 I know, you know, maybe Elizabeth, you can help share 149 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,920 your own experiences with us. But anytime I've ever bought a 150 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,160 course and it was one time payment, it was very easy for me 151 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,120 to just, you know, sort of forgo or let it, you know, oh it. 152 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Just sat on my dashboard. Yeah. 153 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,960 Yeah, I would just gather dust on my dashboard. 154 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:39,080 That's something that, you know, we don't want you guys to do as 155 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,080 metal artists. It's so easy and just not even 156 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,240 metal, but I think in anything regarding music, it's so easy to 157 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:53,640 just put your ideas on the shelf because you know, music is not 158 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,680 necessarily something that it requires your immediate 159 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:00,520 attention, right? It it's something like, oh, I 160 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,280 have to do my chores today or I got to do, you know, groceries I 161 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,840 got to do. I could always put this off. 162 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,480 I could always put this off and then before you know it, you 163 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,200 know, 5-10 years, 1520, your whole life goes before you and 164 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,520 you haven't really worked on the thing that you really were most 165 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,520 passionate about. So that's why. 166 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,360 That's something that we like understand. 167 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,960 Well, yeah. Yes, and that and that's why the 168 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,360 inner circle is is designed the way it is. 169 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,160 It's because we want you to hold yourself accountable just as 170 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,120 much as you know we're holding ourselves accountable, right. 171 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,320 So it's. Can I tell you my favorite kind 172 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,440 of, Can I tell you my favorite kind of e-mail to receive from 173 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:42,000 previous students? I love, I just, I love the 174 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:48,720 e-mail that is like, hey, how do I become more disciplined with 175 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,680 my learning? Like how do I like the things 176 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:53,000 that you, you've taught me, the techniques you've taught me? 177 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,200 Like how do I make sure I implement that every single day? 178 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,680 I love that because I naturally want to go above and beyond to 179 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:05,320 like basically just create that schedule for you, even be like, 180 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,560 hey, I'm available between this time. 181 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:11,480 So do you have any questions I can answer you right away? 182 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,120 Like you just send me an e-mail. And that's like the important 183 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,440 thing of having that 24/7 customer support is that I'm 184 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:19,760 right on the other side of the screen. 185 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,520 And you know, if you do need help, you know, setting, setting 186 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,760 that discipline and trying to figure out where things fit in 187 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,920 your schedule to make this course happen, that's totally a 188 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,760 question you could ask me and I can help out. 189 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,080 I can get to know like, hey, what do you got going on during 190 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,360 the day? You know, and hey, I'm also 191 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,760 available during that time. Feel free to e-mail me with any 192 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,760 questions you have. We wanted to make sure that we 193 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,960 offer that with the inner circle because I've taken courses in 194 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,480 the past where I had that like support and it made the biggest 195 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,000 difference. So I was like, we need to bring 196 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,240 this into the inner circle because this is helpful. 197 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,480 Absolutely. I mean, having that resource 198 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,320 again, I mean really that's what the inner circle's about, right? 199 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,160 It's it's creating a resource where you can always have the 200 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,960 answers that you're looking for, you know, and we're we're we're 201 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,520 all human, of course, right. We're all we're all still doing 202 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,080 our own thing. You know, Ellie and I, we have 203 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,400 our own projects that, you know, we're using here in metal 204 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,440 mastermind to help teach you, right. 205 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,480 This is not like just some Joe Schmo stuff. 206 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,640 We're we're we're really showing you the stuff that we're doing 207 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,320 as well. We're here in a sense in the 208 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:31,440 trenches as well with you and that kind of concept of, you 209 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,080 know, learning about how to go and navigate the music industry, 210 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,440 which is always changing, right? There's there's literally 211 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,280 something new that comes around like every two to five years 212 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,800 that we have to be aware about so that we can. 213 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,800 In. Our own you know in our own 214 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,200 games right so we we're here to help you know you navigate that 215 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,520 because we. Did the work and found the 216 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,720 answers. As much as we can, right? 217 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:02,120 Because I mean here, here I am a university professor who's, you 218 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,520 know, taught at four different colleges in New York City about 219 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,880 music production and music performance and all this kind of 220 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,680 stuff where I'm here to try and share the same knowledge. 221 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:16,040 But really with the community that Ellie and I honestly are, 222 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,480 are most passionate about, and that's, that's metal. 223 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:24,160 I mean, we make metal music in our own way and we love sharing 224 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,160 and educating people. And that's why, you know, Ellie 225 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,920 and I are here today to, to share this information with you. 226 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,880 And, you know, beyond the, the scope of where metal mastermind 227 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,120 used to be, right? Which I, I have a lot of love 228 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,160 for, for Jason Stallworth. Don't get me wrong, but we were 229 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:49,240 we were struggling to find path to help you guys further your 230 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,800 development even more. And that's where, you know, 231 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,440 Jason decided he he felt he wanted to do his own venture. 232 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,800 And because we had different visions for what we wanted for 233 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,200 this to be. And so with Metal Mastermind 234 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,240 today, we're really growing it to be as widespread as possible. 235 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,800 You're going to see a lot of things come down the pipeline. 236 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,760 I'm already working on stuff like Dolby Atmos courses. 237 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,080 We have two guitar courses from Alfred Potter coming out this 238 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,760 month. Really excited about that. 239 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,280 We have other. Beautiful courses. 240 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,520 I love that, yeah. And we also have like, exclusive 241 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,560 interviews. Muncie Ritchie from Skateboard 242 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,440 Marketing is a good friend and he had an entire hour to discuss 243 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,040 with me on what are the things that you need to, you know, 244 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,440 think about for radio promo, you know, and advertising marketing. 245 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,600 I've also had a good friend of ours for both me and Elizabeth, 246 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,240 the Steve Selman videographer, cinematographer, brilliant 247 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,920 creative genius on his end. And he shares. 248 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,800 But I have to just add like brilliant, but also like the 249 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,400 sweetest, most humble, intelligent, empathetic person 250 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,200 I've ever met. You know, like so smart, but not 251 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,960 egotistical, like you, you. He wants to teach you. 252 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,920 And you can really learn a lot from that guy. 253 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,240 And he's a really good friend of ours. 254 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:21,880 This. 100% And you know, Steve worked on our music video for 255 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,160 Homeric's Godless. So if you haven't seen that, 256 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,120 check it out. It's on homeric.org. 257 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,120 You can find all the information about that there. 258 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,200 But Steve is the is the cinematographer, the video 259 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,000 editor. He did the color grading and 260 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,640 everything for that, which I am so proud of. 261 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,640 And we did that in Dolby Vision and we did it in Dolby Atmos. 262 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,640 So we're going to get a lot of. The Woods. 263 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,040 Yeah, we're going to you're, you're going to see like with 264 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,640 with that kind of conversation and that content you're going to 265 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,280 see. How do you actually prepare to 266 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,440 set up for music video? What does the documentation look 267 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:55,560 like? What does it look like to get 268 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,760 permits? All these sorts of things that, 269 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,200 you know, you may not think about as just an artist on your 270 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,560 own. But I felt, you know, Ellie, and 271 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,480 I think this goes for you too. But as you develop as an artist, 272 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,920 you know, in the very beginnings, it's, it's very, 273 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,960 very simple, very small in terms of the scope of what you're able 274 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,440 to do. But over time, things grow. 275 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,760 It's not just, oh, this is not pertaining to me, you know, now 276 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,080 this could pertain to you in the future too. 277 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,760 And this is information that if I had started in the very 278 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,600 beginning, I might have fast tracked a couple of things. 279 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,720 So. Can I tell you how how small it 280 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,720 started for me? Sure. 281 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:44,440 One of my songs in my album, which is going to be recorded in 282 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,200 a couple months and it's going to be mixed in Dolby Atmos and 283 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,600 has like a beautiful music video for it. 284 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,360 So much work went into it. It started off with me on my way 285 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:59,080 to work on the train. I was like a barista at the time 286 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,360 and I was just like, I had this melody in my head. 287 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,160 So I just took out my phone and my voice memos. 288 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:10,560 I was just like, try not to be stared at like a crazy person 289 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,200 humming into my phone because I was like, I will forget this 290 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,119 melody. I need to just record it right 291 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,560 now. I don't care who stares at me. 292 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,040 And I kept that. And then I put it into Logic, 293 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,400 turn it into MIDI. And that was the start of it. 294 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,560 Very small starts off very small. 295 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:32,000 I mean, for Homeric, it was, it was literally a dream I had. 296 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,960 And I woke up that morning and I did a voice memo, too. 297 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,640 Your dreams are so cool, by the way. 298 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,320 I wish I had dreams like that. Your dreams are so adventurous. 299 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:42,880 Mine are always so like traumatic. 300 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,240 And you're like, I was flying through space and then I don't 301 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,760 know, Zelda, I don't know. It's always like super fun 302 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,680 action filled. It makes sense my. 303 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,760 My, my dreams are very adventure based. 304 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,240 That is true. Sometimes they, they eek into 305 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,320 the horror realm, but they're usually very exploratory. 306 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:04,680 So yeah. And but for sure, I mean, as you 307 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,240 grow though, as a, as a musician, I mean, like, so does 308 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,320 your, your scope of, for what you want in the project. 309 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:16,920 And really a key part of being, you know, in metal mastermind is 310 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,600 that we're giving you a map, we're giving you a Rd. path that 311 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:25,560 you can follow in order to help do similar things for yourself 312 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,760 too. Because you know, we, we believe 313 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:34,360 in that your journey doesn't start and end with you wanting 314 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:37,240 to just make music in, you know, your base, right? 315 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,040 It's it's, it's here that we're trying to help elevate you to 316 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,560 get to the next level, whether it is that right now you need to 317 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,560 just really either, you know, work on your guitar technique or 318 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,000 your bass or your production skills. 319 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,960 It might start there, but then beyond that it's don't, don't. 320 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,600 Knock on the basement though, lot can get done in a basement. 321 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,360 Lot can definitely get done in a basement because we have that 322 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,240 technology we have that technology here today, right. 323 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,200 So it's that's really important to understand. 324 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,520 But as you're, you're growing, you're also, you know, seeking 325 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,160 out how to do this as a real business. 326 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,080 And we want to provide, you know, Rd. maps for that as well, 327 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,840 so that you get the most out of what you're trying to do and, 328 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,360 you know, making something that's sustainable for yourself. 329 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,840 I mean, how awesome would it be, Ellie, you know, to be earning 330 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,200 even an additional $20,000 a year off of whatever your 331 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,600 current job is just because of your music, right? 332 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,840 That would be a really nice, you know, just bonus whatever you're 333 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,760 already doing. And then? 334 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,440 Building an empire. Over time, yeah, exactly. 335 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,720 Over time, you then can grow that to A to a point where maybe 336 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,320 you can find your own financial freedom through the thing that 337 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,760 you love. Now, nobody here is actually 338 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,800 ever telling you and will never tell you in Metal Mastermind 339 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,080 that this is going to be something that is quick 340 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,120 turnover, get rich, you know, quick steam. 341 00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:03,680 That's not something that we believe in. 342 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:08,720 That's not something that we breach things that require, you 343 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,200 know, a lot of effort for. You know, your music, the thing 344 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,560 that you believe in the most, it requires a lot of time too. 345 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:21,680 And so the expectations that we're trying to give you is to 346 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:27,200 really think about why you're doing what you're doing, what 347 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,520 you believe in the most out of what you're doing, and then 348 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,360 focusing as much energy that you have at your disposal to make 349 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:37,880 your dreams come true. That's what we really want to 350 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,520 do. And for us, we've been working 351 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:46,040 at our music for, you know, over a decade, probably maybe even 2 352 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,720 at this point. For some of us, you know, it's 353 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,360 just we've been artists for all of our lives and we're still 354 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:59,080 here trucking away little by little, brick by brick, creating 355 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,400 our own, you know, castles and our own futures. 356 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,600 So I, I, I feel like that's a really important message, 357 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,920 Elizabeth, to really relate here for, for the inner circle and 358 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,320 why people should might find interest in enjoying our our 359 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,200 program. What I do like about The Inner 360 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,800 Circle is that, you know, there's a lot of bands, right? 361 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,320 So a lot of bands, they have a guitarist, they have a bassist, 362 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,040 they have a drummer, they have a vocalist. 363 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:31,080 And if you know, a whole band decides like, hey, let's check 364 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,400 out The Inner Circle, There's a little bit of something for 365 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,360 everybody and plus more, we can learn extra things. 366 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:40,360 You can learn production skills, you know, your drummer bait, 367 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,800 maybe using Garage Band or Logic and maybe wants to learn how to 368 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,840 use Pro Tools or use Sibelius. And you know, like everyone has 369 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,720 a little extra something going on. 370 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,120 And what I like about it is, you know, if you're already 371 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:55,040 splitting the bill for your rehearsal space, you know, $10 a 372 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,760 month for each band member, probably less depending on how 373 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,640 many band band members you have. You can get that education and 374 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,800 basically learn how to manage your own band within the inner 375 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,800 circle. Yeah, that's a really, that's a 376 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,600 really good point that I didn't mention, which is that the Inner 377 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,800 Circle was not just designed for, you know, one person to 378 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,040 take this. It's designed for all of your 379 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,440 resources. It's you know, if you if you're 380 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,720 running a metal band and you're not just a metal solo artist, 381 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,040 Inner Circle's great. I mean, like you're, you're we 382 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,040 we always see on like YouTube, you know, the bass is getting 383 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,320 chucked on in in metal bands. But really, I mean, like if you 384 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,640 if you really want to play into it, I mean, we have metal 385 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,760 bassmaster and your your bases can learn how to play their 386 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,000 lines finally. But in all of in all do fun, you 387 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,200 know, do respect really, it's that this is a more than just 388 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,920 for one person. This is for your entire 389 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,080 business, your entire band. Everybody can benefit from this 390 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,680 even off of just one subscription. 391 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,840 And that's so cool. I I don't know of any other 392 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,760 place that's really doing what I think we're trying to do here. 393 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,640 And I think for metal artists, because metal is such an 394 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,640 underground type of genre, I mean, it's hard for metal to 395 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,840 break into the mainstream. We finally did something with 396 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,080 that with Gojira and the Olympics. 397 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,840 I mean like that's as mainstream I think as you can that. 398 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,840 Was a moment. Right. 399 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,840 So you know, I mean the only big giant artist that you can 400 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,240 consider really are mainstream are like like the metallicas, 401 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,800 the you know, the Megadeths and stuff like that. 402 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,360 But I mean, even when you start talking about bigger bands like 403 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:52,800 Slayer, like Slayer still kind of falls a little off the 404 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,960 mainstream, you know, So it's it's very hard for metal to get 405 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,520 the same. Resource A lot of the times it 406 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,840 is the first band that people learn about. 407 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,320 Like the first like rock band in general that I heard about was 408 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,600 Nirvana. And like I saw Slayer 409 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,440 everywhere, you know, it's like the first like metal band that 410 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,640 people hear about and they dip their toes into it and they're 411 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,320 like, oh, I like this, you know, So they're mainstream in that 412 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,200 sense. They're out there, you know, and 413 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,200 they've established their, their style and they've established 414 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,440 their, their look and, you know, they draw people that way. 415 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,400 Kelly, let me ask you a question for the audience. 416 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,840 You know, what was some of the first metal that you experienced 417 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:38,440 in your life? Between the Buried and Me, I 418 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,520 answer that fast because I'm just a super fan. 419 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,240 I do like the technical progressive metal, maybe because 420 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,440 I have ADHD and I like something that's constantly changing and 421 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,520 simulating, and the music that I compose is very much like that 422 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,560 too. But also I really love anything 423 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:01,000 that Mike Patton does. Mr. Bungle was the first CD that 424 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,360 I bought when I got my first car when I was like 17. 425 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,960 And anything that Devin Townsend does, especially his new stuff, 426 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,160 I really like his solo stuff coming out. 427 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,400 I see the passion behind it. It's really exciting. 428 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,680 So yeah, just like that was that was my realm of metal in the 429 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,800 beginning and it and it carries me to this day and it is like a 430 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,400 little bit of everything really. Yeah, and. 431 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,120 How about you? Metal for me in the beginning 432 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:35,520 was probably a little bit of Metallica, but also disturbed 433 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:41,800 Godsmack saliva. Disturbed, yes, because I 434 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,480 watched. I watched wrestling with my 435 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,440 brother growing up. We watched WWF back in the day 436 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,280 with WWF, and the entrance songs were usually like Disturbed or 437 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,080 like Jimi Hendrix or something like that. 438 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,120 So that's how I learned a lot. I remember that metal too. 439 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,640 Drowning Pool was another one. Evanescence. 440 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:06,760 Oh, man, like 90s and early 2000s metal bands were, were 441 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,920 really huge for my library. Yeah. 442 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,240 I think I was like on forums around the Internet and I would 443 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,480 just always constantly listen to that stuff while typing out 444 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,920 thoughts on, I don't know, Lego When I was a kid. 445 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:28,360 I was like such a nerdy kid. I even like took my, my father. 446 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:34,640 No, my brother's Windows 98 PC and I remember logging on to 447 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:40,120 like AOL for the first time, Netscape, all these like what 448 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:41,040 was your. Screen name. 449 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,640 Stuff. Oh my God. 450 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:47,040 My, my screen name I think was called Flames of Agony. 451 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,080 Yeah, just. I know, right? 452 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,200 It was just like you. Good. 453 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,800 I'm such a, I'm such a metal head, you know, I, I just oh, 454 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,880 man, it's so, so typical of a kid. 455 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,240 Do something like that. Yeah, like come on, bro. 456 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,520 We didn't know what we had. Honestly, the millennials were 457 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,480 the last generation to just grow up without social media doom 458 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,080 scrolling. I mean, we had a little bit, we 459 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,200 hadn't Zynga, Myspace, but it was cutesy in the beginning. 460 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,840 It wasn't like everything, but we had like a real childhood 461 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,840 where we could just like discuss, you know, go into FYE 462 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,120 and find a new CD and discover things that way and. 463 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,920 You had a good FYE. Oh my gosh. 464 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,720 Name drop. Tower, yeah. 465 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,120 Times Square. Oh yeah, Tower Records. 466 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:37,680 Yeah, that was an amazing. Say it wrong, Tower Records. 467 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,960 Yeah, there you go. Yeah, No, it was amazing place 468 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,240 to go and find new music and FYE was definitely one of those 469 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,440 places as well. I mean, I guess. 470 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,920 Put on those dirty headphones and be like, oh, I like this. 471 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,920 Ditto. I'll I'll buy this one. 472 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,600 Cool. Yep, exactly. 473 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,360 Yeah. They used to have those stations 474 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:01,240 right at the corner of every single aisle. 475 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,000 You'd get to scan your barcode, you'd get to listen to the 476 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,880 track. It felt like sort of in a sense, 477 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,600 like the early version or the in person version of what would 478 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,400 have been like Apple Music or iTunes back in the day when it 479 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,880 was called iTunes. Yeah. 480 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,240 All these sorts of like ways of experiencing music that we don't 481 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,360 do anymore. That was the normal thing to do 482 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,400 at the time. I mean, CDs who? 483 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,840 Who who listens to CDs much anymore? 484 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,960 In the car I do, you know. Right. 485 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,080 And I feel like that's probably if anything, you know it's being 486 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,520 phased out too, don't you think? Right, because everybody. 487 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,080 Sometimes I can't figure out the Bluetooth. 488 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,880 I don't know. I get finicky in the car so I'm 489 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,920 like all right, I'm putting a CD and calling it a day. 490 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,640 Yeah. And I, I love that about, you 491 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,040 know, some of the older cars because you, you would have the 492 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,200 CD players just kind of inside them. 493 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,880 I mean, like you get like a, if you get a newer card nowadays. 494 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,720 I mean they don't even come with CD jacks. 495 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,120 Any really. I don't even know that Yeah, I 496 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,920 mean, laptops have still had Cd-roms like the little. 497 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,080 Yeah, they they got rid of those too, and now you have to buy a a 498 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,680 specific peripheral in order to use them. 499 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,520 Ken, I'm sad. Now let's change the subject. 500 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,680 It's so nostalgic over here. So nostalgic for us, but that's 501 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,240 OK. I mean like as we are, you know, 502 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,800 really talking about all of this. 503 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,720 I mean, I think the whole reason why we talk about where we come 504 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,000 from in all of our musical journey is because that when 505 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,440 we're on metal mastermind, I mean, we're, we're just so 506 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,800 passionate about music in general. 507 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,480 I mean, growing up as a kid, yes, we're millennials, sure. 508 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,520 But growing up and finding our own voice through music was a 509 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,400 big part of our lives is what we're really getting at here. 510 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,800 And metal was at the center of most of our experiences growing 511 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:03,240 up. And we're here to just like, I 512 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:08,160 think, you know, Ellie, it's really just I love music 513 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,200 tremendously from, you know, the bottom of my heart. 514 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,120 It's something of a sacred duty to always make music, 515 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,040 especially, you know, my project. 516 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,360 Of course, to American your project Deosa, it's evident that 517 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,680 our passion for what we do is present in those projects. 518 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,880 Yeah, that's why I felt really good about the inner circle and, 519 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,840 and just, you know, the next phase of Metal Mastermind, 520 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,280 because I know you and I can like how, I mean, our 521 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:41,080 relationship was, you know, driven from our passion for 522 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,320 music. And we just know what people 523 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,560 want. And, you know, we've we teach 524 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,840 it, we learned it ourselves where we are like a, a hybrid of 525 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,000 all the music that we listen to growing up and the music that we 526 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,360 create now. So yeah, that passion is very 527 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,360 apparent. And we we made sure to implement 528 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,360 that in every step of creating the inner circle. 529 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,600 Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, your, your 530 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,440 involvement in the Inner Circle as our general manager is to 531 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,720 essentially attend to everyone in their customer support needs. 532 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,640 So anybody, whoever needs any help, you, you know, anyone 533 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,600 who's listening on the podcast, if you're interested in, in 534 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,240 joining the Inner Circle, you could always reach out to 535 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,480 support@metalmastermind.com. And that'll send a message 536 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,480 directly to Elizabeth and she, she can help you navigate your, 537 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,040 your, your experience. We also are providing again, 538 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,600 like a new update pretty much every month. 539 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,280 That's our goal. We want to create constant 540 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,320 movement in the inner circle to give you guys value as you are 541 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,080 moving forward in your development. 542 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,960 We're already lining up several interviews with people that we 543 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,520 know that are going to give you things like, you know, business, 544 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:04,520 marketing tactics, publicity, more advertising. 545 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,440 We talked a little bit about Radio Chrome. 546 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,720 We talked about music video creation. 547 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,480 You're going to get more updates in, you know, Dolby Atmos and 548 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,360 what is immersive audio and why does, where does metal fit into 549 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,920 all of that? We're constantly just thinking 550 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,000 of ideas like it's basically all kind. 551 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,560 And I talk about nowadays and we get excited about it like, oh, 552 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,200 what if we do this? What if we do that? 553 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,080 And then we, we make sure that we break it down, organize it 554 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,680 because I want to make sure whatever we want to make sure 555 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,480 that whatever we put on there is polished and, you know, just 556 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,960 good quality and what you guys deserve to be honest. 557 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,000 But yeah, this is a, a, a project, a, a product that's 558 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,720 filled on passion and love. And I just want to also thank 559 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,800 you guys. I got a lot of emails and 560 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,480 feedback supporting the inner circle. 561 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,880 They really like what they're seeing. 562 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,520 And you know, I am on the other side of that screen. 563 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,920 So if you do reach out via e-mail, let me know what you 564 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,520 want like like what do you want to see in the inner circle? 565 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,160 And like we're going to take into consideration. 566 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,440 We do love to hear from you guys. 567 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,960 Just be, you know, just be nice. But I'll always. 568 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,400 Listen to you just. Be nice. 569 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,600 Yes, let me know, you know, I mean, it's actually that's 570 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,640 actually a really important topic to, to kind of come in on 571 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,320 too, right, Because a lot of the time I noticed even with my own 572 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,600 students outside of middle mastermind, like just in, in the 573 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:35,400 colleges and universities, a, a huge part of your growth as a, 574 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,720 as a creator of music and art is your relationships with people. 575 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,720 I mean, that's what is going to help you propel forward in many 576 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,200 ways that you couldn't do on your own. 577 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,760 So by you being a part of inner circle, that's your way of 578 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,600 establishing a relationship with us. 579 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,160 That's true. We want to platform your music. 580 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,360 We want, we want people to see what you're creating. 581 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,760 And yeah. I mean, in the in the future, 582 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,520 and I'm just going to, I'm just going to talk about this Ellie, 583 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,560 because I think. Go for it. 584 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,520 For people to understand where, where we're trying to go with 585 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,120 this. I mean, I want to, I want to 586 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,080 turn metal mastermind into a force to be reckoned with. 587 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,120 Where, you know, in back when I was a, a, a, a student, I would 588 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,440 go to metal festivals all the time. 589 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,199 I'd hear about Mayhem or Oz Fest and all these kinds of things. 590 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,080 Or Vodkan. Millennials. 591 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,080 I want to go. I want to go, you know? 592 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,920 Yeah, those are those are our festivities, right? 593 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,159 But I want to bring that to Metal Mastermind. 594 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,080 Imagine being able to go to a metal show. 595 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,280 But then there's also like workshops where you could learn 596 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,159 about, you know, how this particular artist who's playing 597 00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,360 on stage today and the little interview live in front of an 598 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,719 audience on talking about how do they go about rehearsing or 599 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,240 practicing or, you know, what is their production style like? 600 00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:00,360 Imagine having that experience of not only just paying for a 601 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,680 ticket to see a show, but you are basically going there for an 602 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,200 entire event that you can learn from and benefit from as well, 603 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,120 while supporting independent music, as well as maybe having 604 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,480 some guest artists who are more famous than, you know, the local 605 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,320 indie band. I think that would be such an 606 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,800 amazing front to have. And not only that, but imagine 607 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,240 all the resources and connections that we already have 608 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,360 and growing that into something where Metal Mastermind can, you 609 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:35,000 know, reach people in a larger scope in different ways all 610 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,680 together. We'll fund our own, you know, 611 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,880 record label, so to speak, making sure that we're putting 612 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,240 out the best music that we can possibly find out there in the 613 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,320 world. I mean, these are all things 614 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,440 that Metal Mastermind, that's its trajectory, right? 615 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,360 You know, and I'm talking about, you know, in independent music 616 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,200 and you're saying, oh, well, you know, record labels would Metal 617 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,520 Mastermind has a record label. Well, here's the difference, 618 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,400 right? Think about Metal Mastermind. 619 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,680 What does it do? Right? 620 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,920 It's it's an educational resources. 621 00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:13,560 So we don't necessarily need as an institution to focus all of 622 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,560 our money making efforts through the artists making music, which 623 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:24,400 means that we could really fervor and grow, nurture the 624 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,560 music for the artists by the artists the way the artists 625 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,920 intended and not have to really be dependent on the product 626 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,000 itself. That they remain independent. 627 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,000 They get everything, you know. So this is a new type of 628 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,240 approach and it's going to. Take like it. 629 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,560 But it's this is the long term goal of Metal Mastermind is to 630 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,280 be that beacon for people to follow and for it to be as noble 631 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,720 as it can throughout its process. 632 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:58,480 And it starts with you guys learning the ropes, learning how 633 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,640 to get to the next level for yourself, wherever it is that 634 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,400 you are, and committing to yourself that this is where you 635 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,080 need to be. Because we want to make it to be 636 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:15,120 your own hub, the place where you're like, I don't need to go 637 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,720 into, you know, 10 different other resources to find the 638 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:20,840 answers. I can just go to Metal 639 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,040 Mastermind and that's where I'll find my answer. 640 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,120 I'm going to have the community. We have Discord, you know, our 641 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,520 Discord is what is it like 600 members right now, you know, but 642 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,880 it's 600 very passionate members in the mental community. 643 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,560 So you'll find answers and we've got, I'll shout out to our 644 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,600 moderators, Emily and Bryden. You guys are fantastic 645 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,800 moderators. Thank you so much. 646 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,320 Now they're awesome you. Guys are helping the community 647 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,240 grow and you know, everybody is so engaged in. 648 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:54,120 And helping to maneuver through the this change too. 649 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,480 Like I see you guys. You guys are just really out 650 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,360 there. Yeah. 100%. 651 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,640 And we, I was just going to add something there. 652 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,080 You know, we got some people into the inner circle already 653 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,120 with this Cyber Monday, but it's more of like a cyber month. 654 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,400 So the month of December, it's basically going to be cheaper 655 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,600 than it's ever going to be for this month. 656 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,680 And people that sign up now, they get that price for a full 657 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,520 year. So, and you know, we really 658 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,040 appreciate those people at the very beginning there because 659 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,520 they're, they believe in the product and they're giving it a 660 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,200 chance and they're exploring all the, the courses. 661 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,400 They have full access to all the courses right now. 662 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,840 And I, I see you guys like, you know, like going through the 663 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,280 courses and like just kind of discovering what the inner 664 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,200 circle has to offer so far. And you know, you guys are the 665 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,920 Ogs and we appreciate that so much and just know that every 666 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,840 day we're building new stuff to upload there and to put on 667 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,120 there. And it's just going to continue 668 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,160 to grow and grow. But starting off having access 669 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,240 to all those courses that took years and many instructors to 670 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,760 put together, there's already so much on there that you that you 671 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,840 can stay busy with. Absolutely. 672 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,000 And that's just the beginning, right. 673 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,040 So if you are even just curious about what the industry has to 674 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,280 offer, there's actually free three day trial to join the 675 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,960 inner circle and see what we have. 676 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,200 And at the third day, that's when you get charged. 677 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,280 You don't get charged upfront so. 678 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,600 If you just look around. What that looks like, Yeah, 679 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:34,760 yeah, it's on metalmastermind.com/the Dash 680 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,160 Inner Dash Circle. You'll find your all your 681 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,800 information on that page and what the inner circle has to 682 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,080 offer you. I implore you to just discover 683 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,960 it for yourself. See what we have here at Metal 684 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,640 Mastermind and what our vision is moving forward. 685 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,240 I also want to just give one big shout out to Jason Stallworth. 686 00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:57,960 Thank you for everything that you've done for Metal 687 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,920 Mastermind. It doesn't go unnoticed. 688 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,160 It doesn't go also ungratefully noticed. 689 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,920 It's we are so grateful for Jason. 690 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,520 Jason, you really helped to bring Metal Mastermind up on its 691 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,920 feet in the beginnings and moving forward. 692 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,640 We'll make you proud, brother. So thank you for all the effort 693 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,920 and the love and the care and the dedication that you've shown 694 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,760 Metal Mastermind before. And we wish you the best of luck 695 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,640 in your new venture as to Jason Stallworth Guitar Academy. 696 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,200 So thank you guys. And Ellie, before we actually 697 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:41,080 wrap up our session today, typically we like to talk about 698 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,320 maybe a a metal song of the week. 699 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,760 And this is something that we like to just sort of share with 700 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,240 our folks. And is there something maybe 701 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:54,800 that you've been listening to lately that you'd like to share? 702 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,560 I got you one second. That's cool. 703 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,760 Take a look you go first, you go first because like my good 704 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,720 friend just recommended this one to me so I want I want to look 705 00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:10,960 it up I. I will share that I've been 706 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,720 listening to the latest album of Opeth quite a bit, the last Will 707 00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:19,000 and Testament, the first track, which is I think a Del Segno 708 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,120 symbol, and then a track number one. 709 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,760 They literally just put numbers on their tracks, which is pretty 710 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,480 cool. Really, really great opening 711 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,120 track. And I believe it was track #5 712 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,720 that had a really interesting like Latin beat going on with 713 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:38,600 the Mozambique. I was kind of like geeking out a 714 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,680 little bit about it as a drum. And I was like, Oh my God, 715 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,120 they're actually like using Latin rhythms in metal here. 716 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,960 And I was like, that's amazing. So Opeth, great job. 717 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,280 Your, your music is astounding. Phenomenal work on the mixed and 718 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,800 the production value and the songs are. 719 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,440 Great. So and the keep it up, the the 720 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,480 theater presentation was beautiful. 721 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:04,080 We we saw them, yeah, just in Kings Plaza a couple months ago. 722 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,880 And you just stare. You're just like, wow, like it's 723 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:13,280 beautiful music and the artwork, the digital art was so curated 724 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,360 with the music. It's, it's such a moment and 725 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,920 such an experience to see them live. 726 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,920 Flip it. But yeah, I found I found that 727 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,480 album. It's a new one for me, so 728 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,680 forgive me for not having it memorized to the top of my head, 729 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,040 but I've really been digging it. The name of the band is Wild Run 730 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,720 so WILDERUN. And the album I've been 731 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:36,120 listening to is Sleep at the Edge of the Earth and it's 732 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,200 beautiful. It's it's Froggy has like these 733 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,920 like really heavy metal moments, but then just beautiful, like 734 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,360 orchestration. I've been really digging it 735 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,120 while I was working so. Yes, you, you shared that with 736 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,000 me the other day and I'm listening to a little bit of 737 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,440 that too. And very, very cool. 738 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,160 I like the music and they're a little bit on the folky side of 739 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,520 things, which is cool. I like folky stuff. 740 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,960 You know my style. All right, well everybody, thank 741 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,360 you so much for tuning into another episode of Metal 742 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,200 Mastermind. Be sure to check out our 743 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:15,080 website, metalmastermind.com for all your resources for metal 744 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,560 artists. We are the ultimate resource for 745 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,160 metal artists moving forward. And of course, don't ever forget 746 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,840 that we are here to help you create your own.