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Choosing life or death is what 
we're talking about today. 

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So I said last week that I was I
was feeling led to preach on and

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address the the conflict between
Israel and Iran and the Middle 

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East and ask for your prayers 
about that. 

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And then I'm going forward with 
that today. 

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Will you can let me know at the 
end of the message whether this 

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is was was God's plan or or just
too much sun yesterday. 

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This I will tell you upfront, 
this is a hardest sermon. 

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I I have never had such 
difficulty preparing messages 

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for this one today. 
And so if I stumble a little 

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bit, I ask your your 
understanding and your patience.

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I have committed to you and to 
myself over the years not to get

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partisan or political in in 
certain not to get partisan. 

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You can't help but be political 
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and things that that affect the 
polity, the community, the 

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country, but not to be partisan.
And, and, and I, I am committed 

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to that this morning, too. 
I believe what I'm going to be 

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sharing is not partisan. 
It might look like it at times. 

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And I'll tell you up front, Full
disclosure, I'm, I'm going to 

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take a side in this conflict and
in this sermon, but not based on

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partisanship or politics. 
I tell you that there are some 

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things that I believe that that 
are in line with what the 

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Republicans do. 
There's some things that I 

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believe that are in line with 
what the Democrat Party does. 

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There's some things that I 
believe that neither of them 

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care about and some things that 
they care about deeply that I 

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don't care about at all. 
I'm, I'm all over the board when

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it comes to politics. 
And, and my goal here, and the 

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intent here is not to preach a, 
a, a message that would be 

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better suited for a news outlet,
but to preach the good news of 

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Jesus Christ as it bears upon 
this situation. 

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And, and I this conflict in, in 
its renewed form has been going 

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on for well over a year and a 
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2023. 
And I haven't addressed that 

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from here. 
And part of that is because it 

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felt like in many respects from,
from this ministry setting, from

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our community setting, it really
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It's very important, but it's, 
it's doesn't seem to directly 

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bear upon us. 
We don't have a large Jewish 

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population in Meggs County. 
We don't have a large Muslim 

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population in Meggs County. 
We don't have military or at 

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least then we didn't have 
military actively involved in 

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the conflict, military from the 
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So it seemed like this is this 
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It's very divisive. 
It doesn't directly bear on the 

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ministry that we have right here
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And so I'm I'm maybe I was just 
a chicken, but I just said I'm 

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not going to I'm not going to 
talk about it from the pulpit. 

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Then a couple of things happened
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One is the United States got 
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is, is I found myself involved 
in a very distressing 

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conversation at a local small 
retail establishment where I was

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waiting to check out and the 
person in front of me was 

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speaking to another person that 
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And I, I, I walked up, I 
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I don't apply. 
Apologize for it. 

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You're really interesting 
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And this guy was talking loud so
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it. 
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heard it midway through the 
conversation, but he was saying 

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something that affected not an 
exact quote because he was 

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talking fast that that there's 
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American vessel in the Middle 
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And, and it's going to be under 
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It's going to look like it's 
Iran, but it's really Israel 

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attacking the United States to 
make sure we get involved in the

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war over there. 
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nuts. 
I just interjected myself into 

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the conversation and said, 
that's nuts. 

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That's not going to happen. 
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Israel's one of our strongest 
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And he immediately went on all, 
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The Jews do this and the Jews do
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And then the other person that 
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said, yes, and they are 
demonstrating for our freedom in

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Germany. 
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So I looked at her and I said, 
freedom from what? 

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And she said the Jews, and I 
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This is right here, this is 
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And, and, and I need to address 
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There's no room in the Kingdom 
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whether it's anti-Semitism or 
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against women, any ethnic class,
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There's just no room for it in 
the Kingdom of God. 

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And, and that conflict that's 
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on the other side of the world 
is in reality part of a larger 

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war that affects all of us, 
particularly those of us who are

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committed to following Jesus 
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And, and so as it was at that 
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think, I need, I need to start 
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And so here we are. 
And, and this, I got way too 

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much material and, and, and I, 
I'm not going to be able to, I'm

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going to forget stuff. 
And, and this is not going to be

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a perfect sermon. 
I apologize for it. 

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I'm going to be sharing 
information because there's so 

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much material. 
I'm not going to give source 

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citations if you, I have source 
citations. 

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If you want source citations 
later, feel free to reach out to

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me and I'll provide those if if 
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saying today, as again, that no 
one ever goes to hell for 

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disagreeing with the pastor, OK,
particularly when the pastor is 

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me. 
So feel free, feel free to share

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that with me. 
I'm happy to have conversation 

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about this. 
It's incredibly difficult 

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subject. 
It's incredibly divisive. 

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And there are there are people 
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positions on this. 
And, and I am sharing to you 

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what I believe to be a faithful 
way to look at this conflict 

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through the lens of the gospel 
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And like I say, I don't want to 
do this from a partisan 

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perspective. 
This isn't about, you know, 

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political alliances. 
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biblical framework that says, 
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people and Israel is the 
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Therefore we have to support 
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I don't I don't think that's 
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I think the Jewish people are 
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Jewish doesn't inoculate someone
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simply, you know, Christians are
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now. 
And, and Christian people do 

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awful things sometimes and, and 
Jewish folks do awful things 

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sometimes. 
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analysis is too simplistic and 
and lends too easily to simply 

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offering a blanket endorsement 
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But I do believe that the heart 
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the Scripture give us a 
framework that we can use to 

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look at this and analyze this 
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say where and how can we step 
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Whether it's through political 
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military participation, if we 
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have loved ones that want to do 
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through how we have conversation
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community and on social media 
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And that framework has to do 
with the scriptures that we read

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already this morning. 
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I don't always do it because 
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God in any situation that I'm 
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Where is God and what is God 
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And one of the things that we 
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the Scripture, it's repeated 
over and over again in the Old 

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Testament and in the New 
Testament, is that God is a 

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giver of life. 
God created life and he called 

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it good. 
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middle of the Garden of Eden, 
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needed for a wonderful life. 
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that was the tree of life. 
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rule. 
Don't eat. 

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I don't know. 
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Why are you saying this again, 
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It's short this time. 
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There's one tree. 
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the knowledge of good and evil. 
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tree, you will surely die. 
And they did, and they brought 

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death into the world. 
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Evil is a bringer of death. 
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we're faced these with these 
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what is bringing life into the 
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bringing death into the world. 
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indication, or at least a way to
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is and what God is doing and how
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him in that by action and by 
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We Rayan read this from John, 
Jesus saying quite upfront, I 

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came that you might have life 
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So the thief comes to steal, 
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killing, destroying. 
There's a lot of that going on. 

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But Jesus said I came that you 
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would have it fully. 
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give it even a starker, clearer 
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This is this is the children of 
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They've they've left slavery in 
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They've journeyed through the 
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They're on the verge of entering
the after 40 years in the 

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wilderness, they're on the verge
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promise that God is giving to 
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And Moses gives this very long 
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behalf of God and he's saying, 
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I'm giving you this land. 
It's, it's in, in some respects,

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a second Eden. 
It's not perfect like the Garden

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of Eden was, but it's a land 
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It's a land of abundance. 
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out my way in this land, you 
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And if you don't, you will have 
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And Moses offers this startling 
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I've lain before you. 2 choices,
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Choose life, choose life. 
And I think that's a framework 

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that we as God's followers can 
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Now, there's a lot of things 
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that we cannot directly apply to
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God was making a land covenant 
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his people, the Israelites, to 
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That land covenant is not part 
of our covenant that we live 

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under. 
We live under the new covenant, 

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a covenant of forgiveness of sin
through the life, death, and 

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resurrection of Jesus Christ. 
And so this is not appropriately

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used to say we get to go and 
take whatever land we want in 

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the name of Jesus and claim 
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That's not what this is about. 
But what it is about and where 

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we can find a place to intersect
with this story in our thinking 

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is this business of the choice 
between what brings life and 

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what brings death. 
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the way of evil brings death. 
And when our choices are 

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bringing death in our own life 
or into the lives of others, we 

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need to ask real hard, am I 
following God? 

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When our choices are bringing 
life for ourselves and those 

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around us, we need to look 
around and thank God and thank 

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God for that. 
And so that's the framework that

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I want us to take into this and 
the mindset who and what is 

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bringing life and who and what 
is bringing death. 

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Now, that question is 
complicated in the midst of a 

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military conflict where both 
people on both sides are 

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bringing death. 
That's how war works. 

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And, and we, you know, I, I've 
grown up in a generation far 

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removed from war long past, You 
know, I, I was still very young.

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Some of you will be jealous of 
this and think, man, he's just a

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kid. 
Others of you will think, man, 

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he really is old. 
But I, I was a little kid when 

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the, when the Vietnam War ended.
I have no living memory of the 

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Vietnam War. 
I have no living memory at all 

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of World War 2. 
And the other wars we fought 

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have been real. 
There's been conflict, there's 

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been trauma, there's been death.
But, but they were far removed 

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from me. 
Nothing really ever touched 

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American shores aside from the 
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But war is hell. 
I don't know who originally said

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that. 
I can't remember. 

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I've been told, but it is 
reality. 

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There is no war without death. 
There is no war without killing.

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And that includes the killing of
military combatants, and it 

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always includes the killing of 
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Always. 
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everybody's bringing death. 
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commit to the path of pacifism, 
total pacifism, and some 

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Christian groups have decided to
do that, our Amish sisters and 

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brothers committed to pacifism, 
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will, maybe not gladly, but will
faithfully suffer death 

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themselves rather than lift up 
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another Quakers or other 
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have committed to pacifism. 
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pacifism is that I don't think 
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any meaningful way unless 
they're so small that no one 

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really cares to conquer them or 
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nations that do their fighting 
for them. 

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To be a nation in the world 
where there are bad actors means

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sometimes committing to 
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I think it is worth asking 
what's the purpose of the 

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violence? 
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ultimately to pave the way for 
bringing life, or is the purpose

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of violence simply death and 
destruction of the enemy? 

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And, and again, this is, I wish 
this, I wish I could lay this 

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out and say it in a, in sort of 
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but but I can't see it that way.
So I can't lay it out that way. 

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If you can see it that way 
again, come talk to me. 

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I'd be happy to hear that too. 
But I think there is, when you 

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look at history and when you 
look at culture, that there is a

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group in this conflict that is 
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And there's a group in this 
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to bringing death. 
And I just want to take a look 

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at that. 
I'm going to start with Israel 

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and this. 
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I don't think there is a perfect
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world. 
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Israel or the United States or 
any other nation, no nation is 

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perfect. 
All make mistakes, all do bad 

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acts at times, all have done bad
acts at times. 

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There's plenty in the history of
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which is not praiseworthy or 
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But what's the overall impact? 
What's the overall movement of 

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the culture and civilization 
that that nation is moving 

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forward and out into the world? 
I can tell you this, that, that 

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Israel, Israel small, the only 
Jewish nation in the world, the 

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only Jewish nation in the world.
They have a population of right 

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around 7 million people. 
By contrast, there are 56 Muslim

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nations in the world with a 
population of about 2 billion 

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people. 
If you do the math, and my 

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calculator did that relative, 
that makes the number of Jews in

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Israel .35% of the number of 
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countries in the world. 
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Israel, it is the most 
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within the Middle East. 
Now, all of those other nations 

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are not in the Middle East. 
There's, there's, and I get, I 

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don't want to get lost in the 
weeds, but Israel has a 

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democracy, a Democratic Republic
similar to ours with free 

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elections and minority 
representation. 

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There are Arabs and Muslims in 
the Hebrew Knesset, which is 

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their version of Congress. 
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Supreme Court and the nation of 
Israel and, and there are equal 

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rights, sort of, sort of Jewish 
folks have advantages in terms 

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of land ownership. 
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in Gaza, in the West Bank, have 
fewer privileges and fewer 

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rights and live under a 
different kind of system than 

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the Palestinians that are 
citizens in Israel. 

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There are many Palestinians that
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government is inclusive. 
Citizens, regardless of 

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ethnicity or religion, can 
participate in the democratic 

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process and have representation 
in their government. 

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Israel supports and affirms 
freedom of speech and press and 

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religion, including the freedom 
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You can say bad things about the
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You're free to, just like you 
are in the United States. 

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Israel guarantees freedom of 
religion to Jewish, Muslims, and

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other religious minorities, 
including the freedom of worship

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and the ability to practice 
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Religious freedom for Christian 
worship, including in Israel, 

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freedom for limited 
proselytization to go out and 

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seek converts to Christianity. 
You can do that in Israel. 

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They have restrictions. 
You can't proselytize. 

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You can't evangelize children 
without the permission of the 

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parents, and you can't offer 
incentives for conversion. 

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Hey, convert and you get a 
timeshare. 

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Nothing like that. 
But you can't proselytize in 

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Israel. 
Christians can. 

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And there's tension in Israel 
between the secular and the 

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religious, just like there's 
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between the secular and the 
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The role of women in Israel. 
Women and women's rights are 

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strongly protected in the nation
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Israel guarantees equal 
opportunities. 

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Women can work in all sectors, 
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positions. 
There was gold in my ear, one of

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the his first female, the first 
woman Prime Minister of the 

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nation of Israel, one of the 
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According to some, not everyone 
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There are no clothing 
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They can wear what they choose, 
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style. 
Ultra Orthodox Jewish women have

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cultural pressure to dress in a 
certain way, but that's not. 

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Legal pressure and they're free 
to address our And when there's 

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marriage equality, women have 
the right to choose their 

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spouses, their work and leave 
marriages. 

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The law supports women in family
court and protects their rights 

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in divorce and custody cases. 
There's freedom of expression 

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and arts, music and media in 
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Just a small look at it. 
And again, it's not to say 

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Israel's perfect, but these are 
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I want to compare that with Iran
under the current regime, the 

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Islamic Republic of Iran, which 
is very, very different than the

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government that existed in Iran 
before the Islamic Republic, 

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which was established in 1979. 
In Iran, freedom of speech is 

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restricted and it's heavily 
controlled, and criticism of the

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government and religious 
leadership is punishable, 

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sometimes by imprisonment, 
sometimes by violence. 

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The media is subject to 
censorship. 

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The government controls media 
outlets. 

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Journalists who challenge the 
regime face harassment, 

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imprisonment and execution. 
There are people in jail in Iran

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now because they've criticized 
the government. 

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Media state controlled, with 
most outlets promoting 

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government approved narratives. 
Independent journalism has 

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stifled. 
Websites including social media 

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like Facebook are censored or 
banned. 

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Widespread Internet censorship. 
Online dissent is monitored by 

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the government, and political 
protests and dissent are 

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prohibited in a harshly 
repressed civil rights are 

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limited. 
The regime operates under 

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Islamic law, Sharia law. 
Religious minorities have 

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limited rights. 
Now, interestingly, the largest 

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Jewish community in the Middle 
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Iran. 
It's in Iran. 

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They are very, very limited. 
They're not allowed to 

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participate in government, don't
know if they can participate in 

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elections or not. 
Government limits personal 

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freedom of political opposition.
Only those loyal to the 

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government are allowed to hold 
high office. 

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The Supreme Leader and religious
figures hold ultimate power and 

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opposition parties are banned or
repressed. 

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Religious minorities face 
persecution, including Muslim 

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minorities, and have limited 
rights and subject to 

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discrimination. 
Government crackdowns. 

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Women's legal rights are very 
limited in Iran. 

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They're restricted under Islamic
law imposed by the regime, and 

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while they can vote, work and 
attend university, they're 

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subject to strict rules 
concerning dress, behavior and 

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movement. 
Women face gender segregation in

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many areas of their life. 
Their rights are often curtailed

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by male guardianship. 
They face significant 

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discrimination at work. 
Equal pay laws are weak. 

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They're underrepresented in high
political positions and 

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professional positions. 
Their ability to travel and 

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pursue certain professions is 
controlled by the state of their

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dress codes. 
Women are required by law to 

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wear the hijab, and that's any 
woman, not just Muslim women. 

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Any woman, visitors or citizens 
are required to wear the hijab. 

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Women who fail to comply face 
punishments including fines, 

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imprisonment, and harassment by 
the morality police, including 

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violent physical harassment. 
Marriage and family rights are 

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limited. 
Women's rights within marriage 

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are controlled by Islamic law. 
They must obtain permission from

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their husbands for certain 
things, including traveling. 

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Women's testimony in court is 
considered to be half as 

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valuable as a man's, and 
polygamy is allowed for men 

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under certain situations. 
Hamas, which is the governing 

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body, The political military 
governing body in Gaza right 

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now, or was, is even more 
restrictive. 

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Iran's attitudes toward Israel 
have been clearly stated. 

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The Ayatollah Khomeini, who 
founded the Islamic Republic, 

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says Israel must be wiped off. 
Well, he said he's dead now, 

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said Israel must be wiped off 
the map. 

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He made that in a speech in 
1980. 

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They're different. 
They're very my phone. 

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I apologize for doing so much 
reading today, but I could not 

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hold all of this information in 
my head. 

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The Ayatollah Khomeini, who is 
the current Supreme Leader, 

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published a nine point plan for 
eliminating Israel back in 2014,

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where he refers to armed 
resistance until Israel is 

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destroyed. 
He did clarify that he doesn't 

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support genocide of Jews, but 
rather the elimination of the 

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Zionist regime. 
The Constitution of the Islamic 

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Republic of Iran explicitly 
states that the oppressed well 

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promote Islamic unity and defend
the rights of the oppressed. 

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And they oppose all forms of 
domination, especially by the 

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world of arrogance, which is a 
phrase that they use to refer to

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the United States and Israel, 
IRGC Commander Hossein Salami in

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2019 said the Senate, Speaking 
of Israel, the Senator Stur 

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regime must be wiped off the 
map. 

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And there is no longer, this is 
no longer a dream, it is an 

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achievable goal, Former 
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad 

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said. 
Israel must be wiped off the 

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map. 
Hamas's attitude, Iran, and it 

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has to be acknowledged, 
explicitly denies genocide and 

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explicitly and all their 
official publications call only 

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for the destruction of the 
nation of Israel, only for the 

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destruction of the nation of 
Israel, but explicitly do not 

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call for genocide of Jews 
everywhere. 

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However, Iran is the sponsor, 
trainer, equiper and supporter 

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of Hamas and Hezbollah, and they
are not nearly so discerning. 

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Hamas's founding charter in 1988
said this Israel will exist, and

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will continue to exist until 
Islam will obliterate it just as

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it obliterated others before it,
and that Hamas strives to raise 

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the banner of Allah over every 
inch of Palestine. 

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And that the day of the enemies,
the day the enemies usurp part 

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of Muslim land. 
Jihad becomes the duty of 

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individual, every individual 
Muslim. 

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Their 2017 revision endorses 
complete liberation of Palestine

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from the river to the sea, which
can only happen if the nation of

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Israel is destroyed. 
It does not recognize the 

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legitimacy of Israel. 
Some key leaders in Hamas have 

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said things like this. 
Deputy Speaker Ahmad Bar in 2012

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said called to eliminate for the
eliminating the Jews and says O 

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Allah destroy the Jews and their
supporter And Imam Yusuf Al 

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Zahar in 2008 said it more 
clear, said this Jews are people

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who cannot be trusted. 
Fadi Hamad, former Gaza Interior

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minister, said, all of you, 7 
million Palestinians abroad, you

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have Jews everywhere and we must
attack every Jew on the globe by

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way of slaughter and killing 
with Allah's help. 

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Ghazi Haman, Hamas's political 
Bureau, said Israel is a country

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that has no place on our land. 
We must remove the country. 

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We must teach Israel a lesson 
and we will do this again and 

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again. 
This was, he said this, by the 

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way, in 2024. 
So the AL Aqsa flood, which was 

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the name that Hamas gave to 
their attack on Israel in 2023, 

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the AL Aqsa flood is just the 
first time. 

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And Hamas affiliated TV says our
doctrine and fighting you, the 

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Jews, is that we will totally 
exterminate you. 

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We will not leave a single one 
of you alive. 

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I see, and I'm going to say that
this is, I see a world of 

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difference between those two 
cultures and those two regimes. 

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I see one of them as life 
bringing, not perfect but life 

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bringing and the others as 
committed to death, destruction,

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00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,040
stealing, killing and 
destroying. 

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Part of that has been the rising
tide of anti-Semitism around the

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world. 
Literally riots. 

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00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,960
Hundreds of thousands of people 
rioting in the United States, 

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00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:12,200
Canada, Europe, Australia 
calling for global Intifada. 

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Globalize The Intifada, which is
a call for global violence 

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against Jews. 
The nation of Israel has been 

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accused of genocide or attempted
genocide against the Palestinian

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population. 
Interestingly, in 1948, when the

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modern nation of Israel was 
established, there were 156,000 

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Palestinian citizens in Israel. 
In 2024, there were two million 

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Palestinian citizens in Israel. 
Palestinians in Gaza, in the 

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West Bank when they came under 
Israeli control and directorship

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in 1967. 
There were 1.4 million 

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Palestinians in Gaza. 
In the West Bank in 2024, there 

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were five and a half million. 
If Israel's attempting genocide,

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they're doing a terrible job. 
The calls and claims that Israel

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is an apartheid state like South
America, South Africa are at the

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very best, misleading. 
The rights that Palestinians, 

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even those in Gaza and the West 
Bank, have are far greater than 

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the rights that blacks ever had.
Under the apartheid regime of 

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South Africa, Blacks couldn't 
vote. 

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Blacks couldn't participate in 
the legal system, not as judges 

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at the higher levels. 
And all of those are allowed for

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Palestinian citizens of Israel. 
Now. 

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Israel withdrew from palace, 
from Gaza in the West Bank in 

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2005. 
Hamas took over in Gaza in 2007.

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I believe there is war going on 
in Gaza that has been horribly 

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destructive. 
I might get this number wrong. 

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00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,080
I heard it said. 
I believe I'm getting it right, 

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but if you want to challenge me 
on it again, challenge me on 

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00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,480
anything, we'll look it up 
together. 

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00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:37,360
If I'm wrong, I'll own it. 
The international standard for 

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legitimate urban warfare. 
The the standard to which all 

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nations participating in 
international law or to strive 

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00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:52,240
in urban warfare, you will be 
horrified to know is that for 

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00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,280
everyone Military death. 
It has allowed three civilian 

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deaths and urban urban warfare 
is awful. 

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It's a warfare itself. 
Urban warfare is the worst. 

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00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,760
But the international standard 
is if you go, if you have more 

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than three civilian deaths for 
everyone military death, that's 

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bad. 
That's a violation of 

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00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,560
international law. 
That's war crime area. 

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00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:25,080
In its war in Gaza since 2023, 
the ratio has been 1:00 to 1:00.

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00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,560
It's the most precise urban 
warfare in history. 

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00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,000
And lots of civilians are dying,
but not because Israel has been.

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00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:42,040
Israel drops Flyers and sends 
out messages to alert civilians 

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00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,480
when there's going to be a 
military strike so they can get 

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00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,200
out. 
Hamas hides their military 

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00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,640
behind civilians to say if you 
want to kill us, you have to 

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00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:59,600
kill them too. 
As IDF forces have gone through 

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00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,920
Gaza inspecting homes, looking 
for entrances to tunnels and 

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00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,520
hidden armaments and music 
munitions, they consistently 

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00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,159
find the entrances to the 
tunnels and the weapons and 

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00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:14,320
explosives in the nurseries of 
the Palestinians. 

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00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,159
They hide the weapons in the 
tunnels in their children's 

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bedrooms. 
To me, there's no It's hard. 

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00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:37,320
I find it hard to support war of
any kind. 

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00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,320
I do. 
I can't say that I'm a pacifist.

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00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,480
I'm not. 
But every time someone is killed

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00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,719
in a war, someone that Jesus 
died for has been killed and 

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00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,440
placed beyond the possibility of
repentance and redemption if 

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00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,840
they were not already a 
Christian. 

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And yet, if you have an enemy 
that is explicitly stated and 

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00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,760
and graphically and violently 
acted upon their intention to 

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00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,760
destroy your country and to kill
every single one of your Jewish 

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00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,240
citizens, both in that country 
and if possible around the 

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00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:22,520
world, and to defend yourself, 
you have to attack the enemy and

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00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,240
the enemy's hiding behind 
civilians. 

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00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,000
Here's the thing. 
I can sit back and armchair 

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00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,840
quarterback those decisions all 
day long because I have 0 

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00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:40,960
responsibility politically, 
legally, officially, for 

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00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,240
protecting Israeli citizens. 
The government of Israel has a 

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00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:47,920
responsibility to protect 
Israeli citizens. 

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00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,320
And if they are not to be 
destroyed, I don't know how they

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00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,200
do it without violence. 
And when the people firing the 

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00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,400
guns and the Rockets are hiding 
behind children in places of 

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00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,120
worship and hospitals, I don't 
know how they do it without 

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00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:08,120
awful civilian casualties. 
And I don't say that to excuse 

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00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,160
those things. 
I say that to say as as we're 

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00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:19,040
talking about these things, our 
perspective is different because

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00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,240
we're not the ones responsible. 
Benjamin Netanyahu is not 

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00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:27,680
perfect, but if I were Prime 
Minister of Israel, I don't know

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00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,320
what I would do if I had a 
response. 

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00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:37,160
And I it's my job to protect. 
It's my job to protect. 

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00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,840
I think God, I don't have to 
make those decisions, but we as 

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00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,880
followers of Jesus Christ, we do
have a responsibility to seek 

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00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,680
out and look for where is the 
life, what culture, what 

547
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,200
civilization, what regime seems 
to be more like it's promoting 

548
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,080
life and which one seems to be 
more like it's promoting death. 

549
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,760
As followers of Jesus Christ, we
have a responsibility to stand 

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00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:11,560
against bigotry, whether it's 
Islamophobia or homophobia or, 

551
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:17,680
or, or anti-Semitism or sexism 
or racism or any of these other 

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00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,320
things. 
We have a responsibility to 

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00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:24,400
stand against that. 
And, and when we look through 

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00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:30,800
history and see that for at 
least the last 2000 years in 

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00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,040
Christian civilizations and 
Pagan civilizations and 

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00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,280
atheistic civilizations, the 
number one scapegoat always 

557
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,640
seems to be the Jews. 
When you look as far apart as 

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00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,440
the Nazis were and the Soviet 
Communists were ideological 

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00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:54,960
opposites in every way, nearly 
every way, the one thing the 

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00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,480
Nazis and the Communist Soviets 
agreed on was scapegoating and 

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00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,600
killing Jews. 
The Nazis murdered 6,000,000. 

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00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,160
The estimates are that the 
Soviet empire murdered 7 million

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00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:14,800
or more Jews. 
Why is it always the Jews that 

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00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,000
get made the scapegoats? 
I heard one person say recently 

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00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,600
when before the creation of the 
nation of Israel, one of the 

566
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,640
reasons used to justify 
suspicion of Jews is they're 

567
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,800
just a Vagabond mongrel race 
with no nation of their own. 

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00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,000
That's why we hate them. 
After the nation of Israel is 

569
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,480
created there, they have this 
nation, and that's why we hate 

570
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,760
them. 
They don't have a right to have 

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00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,880
their own nation. 
We as Christians have a 

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00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,680
responsibility to stand against 
scapegoats, whoever they are. 

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00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,800
And lots of different groups are
scapegoats. 

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00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,800
There are lots of different 
groups that have been scapegoats

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00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,440
in the history of the United 
States, including Jews, and we 

576
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,520
have a responsibility to stand 
against that. 

577
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,480
As followers of Jesus, our 
responsibility is to take 

578
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,720
responsibility for the problems 
in our cultures, in our 

579
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:10,680
communities, and work as hard as
we can in the name of Jesus to 

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00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,360
make our communities better and 
more life giving, not to 

581
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,760
scapegoat and blame people for 
problems. 

582
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,080
That Jesus has sent us to be 
part of the solution. 

583
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:29,280
And so all I ask for us as we 
look at this situation is to ask

584
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,520
where's the life and where's the
death? 

585
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,200
And that we would faithfully 
choose life. 

586
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,560
Lord gone for times when we have
chosen death rather than life. 

587
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:46,840
Have mercy on us, Lord, for 
times when we choose life over 

588
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,920
death. 
Give us strength and grace and 

589
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,560
mercy even when opposition 
rises. 

590
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:59,160
We pray your grace and your 
wisdom and your mercy on us, on 

591
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,680
this community, on in this 
world, in Jesus name, Amen. 

592
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:03,520
Amen.
