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Before I read the scripture, 
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not, that that last week I had 
said I was feeling led to 

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address the situation in the 
Middle East, particularly the 

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conflict between Israel and Iran
and Hamas and Hezbollah, from 

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the pulpit. 
And I am proceeding with that 

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today. 
I will. 

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For what it's worth, this is the
hardest sermon I've ever had to 

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prepare and I pray God's grace 
upon us as as I share it that 

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anything that's just of me that 
it would be quickly forgotten 

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and everything that's of God 
would would take root in US and 

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grow. 
I, I do want to say that I'm 

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Full disclosure upfront. 
I'm taking sides in that 

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conflict in in the sermon today,
but I I really don't believe I'm

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doing this out of partisan 
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I my political beliefs are all 
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some of my beliefs align with 
things the Democrat Party does 

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and teaches. 
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things Republican Party does and
teaches. 

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Some of my beliefs say, you 
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have anything to do with there 
is no party large, prominent or 

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small that I am aware of that, 
that I wholeheartedly brace and 

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endorse everything they say and 
do. 

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So, so I, I, I what I have 
sought in this is to share a, a 

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biblical faithful framework that
we can use to analyze this and 

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other situations. 
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takes us in a specific 
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I really don't care about the 
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which which operate out of 
motives that that generally have

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little or nothing to do with 
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except to the extent that those 
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their agenda. 
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that route either, but I'm 
treading as close to this line 

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as I ever care to get. 
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please see that as an 
inadvertent crossing of that 

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line. 
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again, as I've said before, you 
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to hell for disagreeing with me.
And, and if what I say today you

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take issue with and you want to 
talk about that, I am happy to 

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do that. 
I, there's a lot of, I went way 

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too long at Chester and, and, 
and so I got to even shorten it 

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down a little bit here, but 
there's a lot of information and

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data behind what I'm saying. 
But I don't have time in this to

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give source citations for 
everything. 

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If you want source citations and
want to talk about where I got 

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the information, we can talk 
about that too. 

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But it, it'll just slow down 
things too much if I, if I cite 

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sources for every bit of data 
and information I present today.

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So all of that said, I want to 
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don't know, free introduction or
disclaimer, maybe just fair 

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warning, but here we go. 
The Scripture reading today is 

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Deuteronomy chapter 15. 
I'm sorry, Scripture reading 

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today is Deuteronomy chapter 30,
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See, I set before you today life
and prosperity, death and 

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destruction. 
For I command you today to love 

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the Lord your God, to walk in 
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His commandments, decrees and 
laws. 

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Then you will live an increase, 
and the Lord your God will bless

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you in the land that you are 
entering to possess. 

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But if your heart turns away and
you are not obedient, and if you

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are drawn away to bow down to 
other gods and worship them, I 

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declare to you this day that you
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You will not live long in the 
land you are crossing the Jordan

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to enter and possess this day. 
I call the heavens and the earth

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as witnesses against you that I 
have set before you life and 

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death, blessings and curses. 
Now choose life so that you and 

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your children may live, and that
you may love the Lord your God. 

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Listen to His voice and hold 
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your life, and He will give you 
many years in the land He swore 

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to give to your father's 
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. 

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May the Lord add His blessing to
the reading and to the hearing 

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of His Word. 
I only have one slide today and 

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the rest I have in my notes, so 
I'm going to have my phone open 

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a little bit more than I usually
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This conflict has been going on 
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and years and years. 
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October 7th of 2023 and, and I 
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the conflict at that point, but 
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cowardice, I don't know. 
This is tough. 

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This is such a divisive thing. 
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important as it was, as 
significant it was, it seemed a 

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long way away from Meggs County,
Ohio. 

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We don't have a substantial 
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County. 
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Muslim population in Meggs 
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And the United States was not 
directedly or actively involved.

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And so it seemed, it seemed to 
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know, not my business to speak 
or preach on that, given how 

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little connection we had to it. 
But things have changed. 

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Things have changed. the United 
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in that conflict now. 
And even more than that, I had a

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recent interaction at a local 
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retail establishment. 
I was standing in line waiting 

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to check out and a conversation 
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I eavesdropped. 
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entertaining. 
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lot of choice. 
The guy was talking very loud 

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and very energetically. 
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through the conversation as I 
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the effect of, and you know, 
there's going to be an attack on

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American ship in the region and 
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destroyed. 
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did the attacking, but it'll be 
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flag. 
They're going to run up a flag 

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of Iran on their ship and attack
one of our ships to get us to 

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enter the war against Iran on 
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But it'll really be Israel 
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And I being who I am, 
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ridiculous. 
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Israel is one of the strongest 
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They're not going to attack one 
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or any other flag. 
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into, but don't you know, the 
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control the media, the Jews 
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And he started going on and on. 
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was present interjected and 
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they're demonstrating for our 
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At that point, I had that look 
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I had no idea what you're 
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I didn't say that out loud. 
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freedom from what? 
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the Jews and I realized this is 
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much as it's an American issue 
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an Israeli issue, that that the 
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anti-Semitism are rearing its 
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It's been around for thousands 
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nations and Pagan nations and 
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nations. 
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two, because not all of those 
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for 2000 years. 
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all of those different types of 
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people to blame them for 
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around them and their cultures 
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because they were Jews. 
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It's back. 
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continue to feel the need to 
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Now what? 
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is not to address this from a 
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My goal is not even to address 
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political National Alliance 
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Some histories involved, because
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happening and what's going on 
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But really my goal here today is
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faithful biblical framework 
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examine, and respond to this 
situation as well as many other 

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similar kinds of situations, 
whether on a very small personal

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level or a global, international
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And this framework, I believe, 
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Scripture and of the gospel of 
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And it really has to do with, 
and I didn't design things this 

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way. 
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not just getting too much sun in
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I really believe that the 
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life and death, which we've been
looking at since we jumped into 

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this walk through the Bible and 
the book of Genesis. 

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Again, I was not planning to 
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this series. 
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what I've been preaching for a 
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this today because we see from 
the very beginning, God is a God

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of life. 
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earth, and God brought life into
being and then and for humans 

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themselves, them, us, ourselves.
He breathed into us His very 

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breath of life, and we became 
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God treated a garden and placed 
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we had everything that we needed
for abundant, peaceful, joyful 

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life. 
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In that garden was a tree of 
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But there was another tree, the 
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and evil. 
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you can't eat from. 
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Don't eat fruit from the tree of
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If you do, you will surely die. 
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And Adam and Eve brought death 
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took it a step further and 
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brother. 
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downhill and out of control from
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destruction became the normal 
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Jesus touched on this issue that
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creation explicitly when he said
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He said I'm the Good Shepherd. 
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The sheep know my voice, they 
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They said thieves, Thieves come 
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But I have come so that you can 
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its fullness. 
Life is at the heart of God's 

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purposes in this earth and among
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And I think that gives us a 
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situations and making decisions 
in those situations to say, when

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we say where is God in this 
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God is almost always acting to 
bring life where our enemy, the 

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devil wants to steal, kill and 
destroy to bring death. 

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And that's why Moses, when they 
were at the edge of the promised

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land, they'd spent 40 years 
wandering in the wilderness. 

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God freed them from slavery and,
and, and they spent 40 years 

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wandering in the wilderness. 
Now they're on the verge of 

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entering the land that God had 
promised with him, not the 

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Garden of Eden itself, but a 
land of prosperity, a land of 

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plenty of land flowing with milk
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And Moses said, look, you can 
have life or death when you go 

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into this land. 
If you follow God and stay 

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faithful to him and faithful to 
his ways of doing things, you 

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will have life. 
If you do not, you will have 

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death. 
And Moses framed the question in

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very stark terms. 
I set before you life and death.

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Choose life, choose life. 
So I think when we're looking at

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challenging situations and 
divisive situations and 

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conflicts, including this 
conflict in the Middle East, a 

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good way to look at it is to ask
who's bringing life and who's 

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bringing death, Which culture 
and civilization is bringing and

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promoting life? 
Which culture and civilization 

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is bringing and promoting death 
now in the context of an active 

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war? 
Both sides are killing, right? 

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That's how war works. 
I don't remember. 

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I've been told I've read it 
before. 

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The first person that said war 
is hell, But war is hell. 

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There is no war without death 
and destruction. 

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Movies that glamorize it and 
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and heroic and wonderful and 
there are many acts of heroism 

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that happened during war. 
But war is hell. 

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Urban warfare is even worse. 
It's the worst kind of hell 

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because you can't engage in 
urban warfare without cantilling

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killing significant numbers of 
civilians, men, women and 

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children. 
And right now death and 

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destruction are coming from both
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So how do we sort out is 1 
civilization and one culture 

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promoting life and one promoting
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But if we look at those cultures
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believe you can disagree with 
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cultures and civilizations is 
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promoting death. 
Let's just compare. 

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And this is where I went along 
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I got into reading my notes and 
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I'm going to summarize because 
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all of the details, thinks about
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and civilization we know promote
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Things like the freedom of 
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allowing differences of opinion 
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openly. 
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press, and religion. 
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citizen. 
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government. 
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You can do it in social media. 
You can do it online. 

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You can do it on television. 
You can do it in print. 

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You can. 
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government. 
It's built into their 

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constitution, built into their 
DNA. 

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Israel and Hamas, the two other 
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criticize. 
There is no freedom of speech, 

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press and religion. 
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forbidden and punished, often by
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arrest and imprisonment if not 
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Israel is a democratic state. 
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people and it's an incredibly 
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and people, whether it's 
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citizens or Arab citizens or 
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citizens, they all get to vote 
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each one of their votes counts 
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Israel and Hamas are 
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Authoritarian 1's a military 
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theocracy. 
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those elections are controlled 
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particular outcome. 
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in the political process. 
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not part of the right religion 
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persuasion, you cannot hold 
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government. 
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are Arab members of Israel's 
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their equivalent to our 
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There are Arab members there. 
Did you know there is an Arab 

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person, I believe a Palestinian 
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Israel on this? 
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attempted to create a culture, a
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for freedom and openness and the
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viewpoints, many different 
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Arts and the media are 
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in Iran or with Hamas. 
The treatment of women might be 

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one of the clearest examples. 
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protected. 
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They can choose who they marry. 
They can choose to get divorced.

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They can choose what kind of 
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And no clothing is forbidden for
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nothing that's required or 
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reasons. 
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education as men. 
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professional jobs like men. 
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government and political jobs. 
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their first woman Prime 
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And when considered by many, not
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every group, every political 
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and detractors was certainly a 
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leader in Israel. 
Women cannot hold high level 

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positions in Iran or in Hamas. 
Their freedom and decision 

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making is limited. 
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court is considered legally 
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man's testimony. 
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they can wear. 
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Muslim or not are required to 
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doesn't wear it properly she can
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in prison. 
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freedom of movement and often 
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their husband or another male in
their in their family for travel

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and movement. 
One of the ways you can see the 

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difference between life and 
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is and the two cultures is how 
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There is no doubt in Israel's 
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and, and Hamas is a proxy Iran 
equips, trains, supports, 

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supplies, funds Hamas that in 
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Hamas, lots of civilians have 
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They know that. 
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I might, I heard this from a 
credible source. 

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There was I was listening to a 
podcast. 

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I didn't write it down. 
I might be getting these numbers

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wrong. 
If you want to challenge me on 

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it and check it if I'm wrong, I 
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But I believe I heard this 
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international standard for urban
warfare, if you're going to wage

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urban warfare, the international
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no more than three civilian 
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death and urban warfare. 
So if you if you go into an 

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urban situation and there are 
100 military personnel you're 

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trying to take out international
standard is as you can't kill 

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more than 300 civilians while 
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military personnel. 
More than that you're looking at

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war crimes. 
Israel's military urban warfare 

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against Hamas since 2023 has 
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They have killed civilians. 
They have gone out of their way 

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to limit the number of civilian 
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ratio than any nation in urban 
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They've killed civilians. 
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August 7th, 2023, they 
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They went to the homes of 
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and women and children. 
They raped women. 

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They put babies in ovens and 
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celebrated in it, and they 
rejoiced in it, and they gloried

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in it, and they were praised 
back home for it. 

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And here's the thing they were 
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They were just doing what Hamas 
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of Hamas's formation they wanted
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Built into Hamas's original 
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of the nation of Israel and the 
killing of Jews. 

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Now Iran has built into their 
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Republic of Iran, established in
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constitution the total 
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Israel. 
It's an explicitly stated goal. 

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They don't explicitly state 
anti-Semitism, that we're going 

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to kill as many Jews as we can. 
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that. 
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right? 
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The largest Jewish community in 
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Israel is in Iran, 8000 I 
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Largest community, Jewish 
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in Iran. 
Their rights and their freedoms 

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are restricted and limited, but 
they're there. 

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Iran doesn't have to, doesn't 
state it explicitly, but it's 

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very clear from their support of
Hamas and Hezbollah that they're

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perfectly OK with that ideology.
And some of their leadership has

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said off record not acting their
official capacities have called 

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for the death of Jews as well. 
But one Hamas leader, just as 

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one example said, and this was 
in 2024, said all of you 

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Palestinians living in the rest 
of the world, 7 million 

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Palestinians living outside of 
Palestine, you said there are 

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Jews all around you. 
It's your responsibility to kill

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as many of them as you can. 
It's not a direct quote. 

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Again, if I get into my notes, 
I'll get lost in the weeds, but 

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that's the substance of it. 
There is a a moral, spiritual, 

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qualitative difference, I 
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civilians in an effort to defeat
a military enemy that has 

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devoted itself to destroying 
you, and killing civilians just 

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to kill civilians to promote 
your own agenda and your own 

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politics and your own death 
seeking ideology. 

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I think there's a world of 
difference between those two 

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things. 
There have been accusations made

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that Israel is committing 
genocide against the 

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Palestinians. 
History simply does not bear 

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that out. 
I am. 

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I'm going to get the numbers on 
this, so I am going to look this

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one up. 
I got to get to the right spot. 

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Please be patient. 
See all of these notes. 

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This is why I was late getting 
here today. 

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Here we go. 
Palestinian citizens in Israel. 

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There have been Palestinians. 
Not not those living in Gaza, 

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the West Bank, but actual 
citizens of Israel. 

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Palestinian citizens in Israel. 
In 1948, when the modern nation 

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of Israel was established, there
were 156,000 Palestinian 

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citizens in Israel. 
In 2024, there were two million 

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Palestinian citizens living in 
Israel. 

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Palestine, Gaza and the West 
Bank came under Israel's control

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in 1967. 
Israel withdrew from them 

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completely in 2005. 
But in 1967 there were 1.4 

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million Palestinians living in 
Gaza and the West Bank. 

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In 2024, there was five and a 
half million. 

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You cannot claim genocide when a
population is growing dramatic 

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dramatically and when even in 
warfare, Israel is doing 

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everything they can to limit 
civilian casualties. 

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Israel has been called a 
colonial nation. 

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I think that's a misleading 
statement as best There's no 

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mother country. 
You can't leave Israel and go 

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back to the motherland of the 
Jewish folks. 

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Israel is the motherland of the 
Jewish folks. 

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Israel is a refugee country 
where Jewish folks from all over

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the world have moved moved to 
Israel. 

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More than half of the population
in Israel are Jews who are 

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native to the Middle East. 
They're not a colonial country. 

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They're a refugee country 
providing life and hope to a 

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group of people who have been 
persecuted over and over and 

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over again, discriminated 
against, shunned, limited and 

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legal representation and rights 
and privileges, and out and out 

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killed and driven out in country
after country for the past 2000 

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years. 
And Israel, the nation of 

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Israel, created to give them a 
safe place as refugees that they

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can go. the United States, you 
might know this already. 

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Prior to entering World War 2, 
Jewish refugees coming on boats 

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to the United States were sent 
back to Germany. 

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Our country didn't want Jews 
here or any more Jews here, so 

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we sent them back. 
We didn't enter World War 2 to 

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save the Jews from the Nazis. 
It was a happy accident. 

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It was good that it happened, 
but that's not why we entered 

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the war. 
We entered to collect, protect 

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political and economic 
interests. 

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I've heard this said. 
I don't know if it's true. 

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I haven't traced it out, But I 
challenge you. 

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I, I don't know. 
I'm not even sure how you do the

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research. 
I haven't had time to try, but 

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I've heard it said again from 
knowledgeable people that every 

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country in history that have has
welcomed and embraced the Jews 

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that lived among them has 
prospered during the time that 

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they welcomed and embraced the 
Jewish folks living among them. 

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But that takes us back to that 
promise God made Abraham. 

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Through you, all nations of the 
world will be blessed. 

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Through you all nations of the 
world will be blessed. 

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And we know that the most 
dramatic fulfillment of that 

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prophecy is through Jesus Christ
himself, who was and is Jewish 

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and is a blessing to all the 
peoples of the world so that 

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that family has been opened up. 
And we too can become part of 

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God's chosen people in the 
family of God through the saving

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grace of Jesus Christ. 
But it also seems to be true 

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that simply through embracing 
and receiving the people God 

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chose to begin with, the Jewish 
people, that nations are blessed

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with prosperity. 
There is. 

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I'm not trying to say Israel's 
perfect any more than I would 

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say that the United States is 
perfect. 

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I'm not saying that that being 
Jewish is an inoculation against

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doing evil things. 
There are plenty of bad actors 

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in the world who are Jewish, 
just like there are plenty of 

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bad actors in the world who are 
Christian, plenty of bad actors 

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who are atheists, plenty of bad 
actors who are Muslims. 

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It's not an inoculation, but the
culture and the civilization 

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that Israel is promoting and 
growing in that region is a 

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culture and civilization of 
life. 

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The culture and civilization of 
the Islamic Republic and of 

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Hamas and of Hezbollah is a 
culture and civilization of 

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death and destruction. 
And I believe that we as 

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followers of Jesus Christ have a
responsibility to promote life 

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and have a responsibility to 
support life and those cultures 

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and civilizations that are 
promoting and supporting life. 

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One of the ways we can see it's 
you and I, we don't have any 

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direct impact on what's 
happening in the Middle East. 

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We don't through prayer, through
prayer, but as individuals, no 

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one's calling us and asking our 
opinions. 

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And, and sometimes I think, boy,
I wish they'd call me and ask my

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opinion. 
I'm glad I don't have Benjamin 

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Netanyahu's job. 
I don't know what I would do if 

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if I had an enemy that was 
determined and equipped and able

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and demonstrated its willingness
to kill and destroy my entire 

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nation and every one of my 
fellow countrymen. 

468
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If I had an enemy that was doing
that and they were hiding behind

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hospitals and places of worship 
and and nurseries and preschools

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and schools. 
If they were hiding behind there

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saying you can kill us, but 
you'll have to kill them first, 

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I don't know what I would do. 
I'm glad that's not my 

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responsibility. 
So one of the things that we can

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and we need to do is to approach
this situation with humility, 

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recognizing that that that 
leaders get placed in very 

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difficult positions, having to 
make very difficult decisions. 

477
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And no matter what they decide, 
people will die. 

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And we can pray for those 
leaders that they listen to God,

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that they choose life when 
possible. 

480
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,960
I think the other thing that we 
have a responsibility for is to 

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stand up against scapegoating 
and bigotry in whatever form 

482
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they present themselves, whether
it's anti-Semitism or 

483
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,880
Islamophobia or racism or 
sexism, homophobia, any type of 

484
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,080
bigotry that looks at a group of
people and says, because they're

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like that, you know, we can 
treat them badly. 

486
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,600
And then when, when thing bad 
things are happening around us, 

487
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,880
we find ourselves sayings, well,
it's those people. 

488
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,440
It's those people. 
They're bringing the wrath of 

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00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,800
God on us. 
They're the ones causing it. 

490
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,800
They're the ones that we have a 
responsibility to stand up 

491
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,360
against that because there's 
nothing of Christ in that. 

492
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,400
Nothing. 
In fact, it's the opposite. 

493
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,240
I believe that to be a follower 
of Jesus Christ gives us the 

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00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,120
responsibility to take 
responsibility. 

495
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,240
There's a problem in our 
community that we don't get to 

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00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,160
look for scapegoats and point 
our fingers at them. 

497
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,520
It's our responsibility to bring
life into our community. 

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00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,680
And when there's death and 
destruction coming into our 

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00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,600
community, it's not. 
We don't get the privilege to 

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00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,040
find scapegoats and point at 
them and say it's their fault. 

501
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,160
Let's just get those people out.
It's our responsibility to take 

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00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:59,760
responsibility for bringing life
and hope and love and joy and 

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00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:05,080
peace into a situation. 
And so we can't directly affect 

504
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,719
what's happening in the Middle 
East, but we can stand against 

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00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,000
bigotry in our community. 
We can pray for leaders. 

506
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:20,080
We can take humility and, and, 
and, and, and exercise humility 

507
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,880
when engaging in conversations 
about the situation. 

508
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,120
We can do all of those things. 
And I believe that is choosing 

509
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,040
life over death. 
I believe that is our 

510
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,840
responsibility. 
I don't. 

511
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,520
Again, this is the hardest 
sermon I've ever had to preach. 

512
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,880
I've preached a lot of sermons 
over a lot of years and a lot of

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00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,880
difficult things. 
Hardest sermon I've ever had to 

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00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,040
preach. 
And, and, and if I have left you

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00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,600
dissatisfied or, or disgruntled 
in some way because of this, 

516
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,719
please come talk to me about it.
I'm, I'm, I'm going to be out of

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00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,880
town this week, but you can 
message me. 

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00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,360
We'll set up a time, we'll get 
together, have coffee, have a 

519
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,440
slice of pizza, foxes, whatever 
you want to do. 

520
00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:02,480
And, and we'll talk about it. 
We'll talk about it. 

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00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,800
But my hope and my prayer is 
that whatever we're doing, our 

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motive behind it is to choose 
life, the life of God, over the 

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death that our enemy wants to 
bring upon us.

