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Revelation chapter 4, Revelation
chapter 4, verses one through 

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11. 
I'm going to read the whole 

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chapter. 
It's really powerful. 

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But I want to give us give us a 
picture. 

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And this here is after the 
catching away of the church. 

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You know, I'm convinced this is 
after that particular event 

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because you know it, they're the
first 3 chapters have been 

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dealing with the church in the 
earth that John saw by the 

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Spirit of God some things going 
on. 

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And then it said after these 
things, I looked up and hold the

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door standing open in heaven. 
And the first voice which I had 

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heard like the sound of a 
trumpet, OK, speaking with me 

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said, come up here and I will 
show you what must take place 

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after these things. 
So there was a catching up of, 

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of John into the heaven, the 3rd
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And it says in verse 2 
immediately I was in the spirit 

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and behold a what? 
Come on, What was it? 

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What is it? 
It's a throne was standing in 

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heaven and one sitting on the 
throne. 

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Thrones are in kingdoms, not 
religion. 

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So he's caught up to the throne 
room. 

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Hallelujah, Amen. 
Could you imagine right now just

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being translated to the throne 
room? 

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Who? 
Glory to God, because the Father

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is seated on the throne. 
I said he's seated on the throne

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and Jesus Christ is seated on 
the throne right at his right 

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hand. 
Verse 3 and he who was sitting 

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was like Jasper stone. 
And it goes on with the 

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appearances here and emerald 
appearance. 

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Let's go on a rainbow's all 
around the throne and the 

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throne. 
Around the throne were 24 

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Thrones and upon the Thrones I 
saw 24. 

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What were they? 
Elders sitting clothed in white 

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garments and golden crowns on 
their head. 

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Now this is a future thing that 
he saw after the church age that

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he's caught up. 
And here he is in the throne 

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room and there is this throne 
that the Father sits. 

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Yet there are 24 other Thrones, 
of which 24 elders are seated 

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clothed in white garment, and 
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This is all about a king, his 
Kingdom and his royal offspring.

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The Bible's not a religious 
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It's about a king, his Kingdom 
and his royal offspring. 

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And here he is, the king of so, 
the king of the kings that are 

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sitting around him, 24 elders 
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heads. 
Are you hearing me? 

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It said. 
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flashes of lightning, lightning 
and sounds and pills of Thunder.

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And there were 7 lamps of 
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which are the seven spirits of 
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We ministered on those in the in
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there was something like a sea 
of glass like crystal and in the

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center and around the throne 4 
living creatures full of eyes in

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front and behind. 
This is going to be a spectacle.

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The first creature was like a 
lion, the second creature like a

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calf, the third creature had a 
face like that of a man, and the

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fourth creature was like a 
flying eagle, and the fourth 

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living creature, each one of 
them having 6 wings full of eyes

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around and within. 
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night and day and night. 
They do not cease to say Holy, 

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holy, holy is the Lord God 
Almighty, who was, who is, and 

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who is to come. 
Glory to God. 

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So what is being sung around the
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Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God
Almighty who is, who was and who

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is to come. 
That's being sung right now, 

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right now, right now, right now.
If you want to get a sound of 

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heaven, there it is. 
That's what's being sung in 

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heaven right now and it doesn't 
cease. 

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And when the living creatures 
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giving glory and honor and 
thanks to him who sits on the 

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throne, to him who lives forever
and ever, the 24 what what are 

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they? 
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Will fall down before him who 
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worship him who lives forever 
and ever and will cast their 

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crowns before the throne saying,
Oh my Mama, worthy are you, O 

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Lord and our God, to receive 
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For you created all things and 
because of you your will, they 

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exist and were created. 
Did we not just saying glory and

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honor and power. 
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on? 
How long do you understand? 

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We were picking up a course that
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I cannot tell you. 
It's the same musical tone but I

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can tell you it's the same 
wording. 

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Hallelujah. 
Cause the king of kings in his 

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throne room with 24 other kings 
known as elders wearing crowns 

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will bow down and cast their 
crowns to him. 

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Just acknowledging you are 
supreme in authority, You are 

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Lord and glory of all and they 
are there to submit to him, 

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yield to him, carry out anything
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He is life, He is love, He's 
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just. 
Come on. 

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Can you get a picture of this? 
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a hard imagery for the US 
Christian Church is because we 

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tend to be a little more 
democratic in our Christianity 

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than we are Kingdom. 
Because, you know, we don't want

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a seat of someone over us. 
But the reality is there is a 

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seat and he seated on it. 
Come on, He is seated on it. 

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He's not voted into power. 
He cannot be voted out of power.

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He is the king of glory. 
Hallelujah. 

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And there are 24 elders. 
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I don't know who those elders 
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Now, some scholars speculate 
that's 12 could be one from each

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tribe of Israel, the 12 tribes 
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and the other 12 could be the 
apostles of the Lamb. 

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And that may be true. 
That could very well be true. 

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That would definitely equal 24 
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There are someone specific. 
Remember there were two of the 

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disciples that came with a Mama 
to Jesus. 

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Come on, Mamas, quit meddling, 
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want you to give me just one 
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Tell me you'll do it. 
And he's like, tell me what it 

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is first, right? 
That's kind of like a Mama, tell

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me you're going to do it. 
Well, I don't even know what I'm

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doing yet to tell you I am. 
They want, they want commitment 

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before they even communicate. 
And so she says I want my sons, 

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each of them, when you get in 
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right and one to be on the left.
He said it's a hard thing You're

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asking for your boys might be 
easy for you, Mama, but you're 

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asking a hard thing for your 
children. 

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Mama. 
Sometimes you need to watch out 

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what you're asking for your kids
because some things you may be 

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asking, it's a hard thing. 
Maybe better you just pray that 

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they come to the realization of 
the will of God for their life 

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is try to determine where they 
should go and then where God 

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should use them. 
Amen. 

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And so with that being said, he 
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the cup that I'm about to drink?
They're like, oh, we can do it. 

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But you understand they also 
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He did say you're going to drink
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martyred like he would, but he 
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left. 
I don't have the authority for 

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that. 
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determine that. 
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You don't determine that. 
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And here's the thing, I have no 
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You should have no issue that 
right now there's 24 elders that

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Lord. 
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could be there now that they are
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They're there in his throne 
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doing his bidding, and they are 
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Now, why do I start with 
Revelations today? 

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Because I want you to see that 
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leaders. 
And here we are in heaven. 

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And God has placed men in his 
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Now he's God supreme in 
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sufficient. 
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has elders. 
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that God the Father is so secure
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righteousness, his justice, his,
his walk of love, who he is as a

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being, that he has no problem 
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That even in heaven he has 24 
human spirits, 'cause you're not

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on a throne unless you're in 
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Are you hearing what I'm saying?
You're not on the throne unless 

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you're in power. 
So there are 24 human spirits, 

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humans that he has hand picked 
to put in his throne room that 

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have authority. 
And if God is supreme and has 

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layers of leaders, then don't 
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The church does. 
If God the Father doesn't do it 

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without delegating and then 
giving them very specific 

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responsibilities within those 
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These elders have specific 
responsibilities assigned to the

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throne that they are on. 
Wow. 

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And they have been been found 
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They have been found worthy 
through the obedience they had 

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with the Lord. 
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are correct that 12 of them are 
from the tribes that technically

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could be in the Old covenant. 
I, you know, I don't know too 

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many people who will argue that 
Moses could be on one of those 

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Thrones, right? 
Maybe Abraham could be on one of

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those Thrones. 
David could be on one of those 

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Thrones, could be right. 
No one argued. 

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But if they are, these are men 
who were not born again in the 

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time they lived on the earth, 
but they lived a righteous life 

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by faith-based upon what was 
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until the death, burial and 
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earned them the seat. 
If it's true, and we know this, 

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if you take time to read the 
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reign, when it comes back, the 
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David, the one we read about. 
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ruling in Jerusalem. 
Isn't that amazing? 

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So here's God in heaven with 
layers of leaders, and these 

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leaders are called elders. 
Well, are there arrow elders in 

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the church? 
Look what it says in Acts 

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chapter 14 verses 21 to 23, it 
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And after they had preached the 
gospel to that city and had many

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disciples, they returned to 
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Iconium is modern day Albanium, 
strengthening the souls of the 

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disciples, encouraging them to 
continue in the faith and saying

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through many tribulations we 
must enter the Kingdom of God. 

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And when they had appointed 
elders for them in every church,

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having prayed with fasting, they
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whom they had believed. 
Hallelujah. 

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So here the Apostle Paul, if you
get this full context, he's 

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actually was ministering in a 
particular community that the 

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the officials of that town 
incited a riot against Paul and 

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they drug him out of the city 
and stoned him to death. 

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Now the Bible doesn't say this, 
but it could be that this is 

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where Paul in another letter 
says I knew a man in body or out

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of body, I do not know, called 
up to the 3rd heaven and he 

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begins to see unspeakable things
that God wouldn't let him talk 

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about. 
But he returned to his body 

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because they drug him out, 
supposing he was dead all right.

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And back then they knew how to 
check a pulse people, they knew 

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how to determine somebody was 
breathing. 

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So all indication is when he was
stoned, then they killed him. 

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But God, I said, but God, I 
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they can't kill you. 
Are you hearing what I'm saying?

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If you're walking in the planet,
God, they're not going to be 

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able to kill you. 
God to get you right back in 

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your suit, of which he got back 
in that suit and that suit did 

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not get immediately healed, but 
he picked himself up, went on to

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the next city. 
These three mention are are I 

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think it was Derby and ends up 
preaching the gospel when he 

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shows back up a little bruised 
from the stoning back to this. 

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These churches, they're like 
Paul, we thought you were dead. 

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He begins to instruct them more 
and says to them, look, in the 

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Kingdom of God, you're going to 
have some sufferings. 

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There's going to be some trials 
and tribulations. 

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In essence, we don't stop just 
because of opposition, because 

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you understand, in the world the
Kingdom of God will have 

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opposition against the forces in
the earth that do not want the 

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Kingdom to manifest. 
And that's through the domain of

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darkness. 
And the domain of darkness loves

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religion, loves religion, and 
loves to keep people in religion

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and loves for people. 
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religion? 
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their terms instead of God 
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terms. 
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city and what does he do? 
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Now Paul is an apostle to the 
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He has planted these churches 
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authorized to appoint elders in 
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Now one particular commentary 
concerning the things of God and

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appointments within the church 
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Our Lord Himself is the sole 
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ministerial power. 
Do you believe that He is the 

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head of the Church? 
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He is our great High Priest. 
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by His appointment. 
He is our King. 

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None can bear rule in His 
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Commission. 
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but that is a true statement 
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tells us that God places us in 
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So you understand, everyone is 
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the King himself. 
The positions are the things 

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that you do within the church 
body are not your picking. 

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You should be finding your 
assignment because when you find

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your assignment, you will 
thrive. 

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And let me tell you something, 
God loves you, loves me. 

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Religion places us in 
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The Kingdom were complementing 
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in Christ there is no 
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It's just complete. 
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other. 
It is complementing each other. 

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In fact, Pastor Joshua was 
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went to Daytona, he had a 
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was there. 
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But with that being said, he was
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row where they jump across the 
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said I forgot to bring gear 
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So the crew that he was with, 
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owners of a NASCAR, gave him a 
headset that he could hear the 

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conversation between the pit 
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This is inside stuff here. 
I mean, this is this is not a 

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NASCAR experience. 
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And he said they considered the 
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In fact, they consider them 
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And that he said every time one 
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responsible to fuel the car. 
They got this big jug that they 

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stick in and you have two 
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a can, put it in two seconds, 
you're pulling it back out and 

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jump back over the wall. 
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did it, he stopped, watched 
himself on film. 

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Oh, y'all don't want to hear 
this? 

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Washed himself on film, Pastor 
Joshua said in his ear. 

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He was here in the crew. 
You got to do it better than 

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that. 
You got to get over that wall 

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quicker than that. 
You've got to do it. 

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But what are you doing? 
You are an elite mechanic. 

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Now. 
There was a few other words that

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I'm not at liberty because the 
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if there was an opportunity for 
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guy holding the can. 
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But here's the thing, when 1 
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whole team gets bonuses. 
So this guy holding a gas can is

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just as significant to this race
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seconds. 
And then how can I do my 20? 

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Y'all don't want How can I do my
2 seconds better? 

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I mean how many you coming? 
How can I get my praise better 

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today? 
How can I get my praise better 

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today? 
How can I get my giving better 

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today? 
How can I get my welcome better 

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today? 
Do not let the world out. 

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Praise us for the God they 
serve. 

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And here's the thing, when you 
know the Kingdom, you are 

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absolutely jacked, excited to 
grab hold of a can and jump a 

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wall and hit it for 2 seconds 
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And when your team crosses the 
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flag, you're like, I did that, I
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You don't feel inferior, you 
don't feel like you're second 

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fiddle. 
You don't go home cried 'cause 

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you were not upstanding and 
popping to champagne. 

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Now, if the world's got this, 
there's no reason the church 

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shouldn't have it. 
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doesn't have it is because 
pastors aren't making the demand

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out of the Saints to rise 'cause
we're too sensitive to 

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correction. 
Yet every time he jumps the 

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wall, they're being corrected on
how they could do it better 

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every race. 
Hallelujah. 

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Say Amen anyway. 
Oh, but I got some Saints in 

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here who like to jump a wall. 
They leap over a troop. 

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They're ready to do their part 
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about their part. 
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Kingdom and we keep advancing 
and we take another territory 

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and we take another town and we 
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do another book and we have 
another song to sing That when 

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you're driving a golf cart and 
bringing someone up, you're 

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like, I did that, I did that, I 
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need everybody, Hallelujah. 
So quit cheapening positions. 

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Quit being carnal in your 
thinking and cheapening 

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positions because at this house,
every place is important. 

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Get self aware and know your 
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Hallelujah. 
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the King. 
All right. 

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So this minister of power, our 
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in Acts, in the Acts of the 
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the New Testament, we learn how 
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ascension, that's when Jesus 
went up and they watched him go.

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They, the apostles brought in 
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had betrayed. 
It was the apostles, the 11 that

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came together say we are here to
appoint by the Holy Ghost the 

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next person into the role of the
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And so they cast loss for him, 
which means God was in the midst

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of that. 
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communicating to them, but it 
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lot fell to Matthias and they 
brought him in and he became the

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12th apostle of the Lamb. 
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this apostle that he had to have
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miracles walk with him. 
He couldn't be someone that just

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got that was started to show up 
at a prayer meeting, right? 

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That the apostle said, hey, you 
know, we got a prayer meeting in

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this upper room. 
You know what, I think I'm going

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to come and they're like, oh, I 
want to be apostle. 

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You just got here, son. 
I said, you just got here. 

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But the point is, is you say, 
what's wrong with that? 

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Well, the Bible tells you she 
can't put a novice in leadership

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position or they'll get lifted 
up in pride like the devil. 

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So again, there's 
qualifications. 

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This is in the Kingdom. 
Don't get offended by that. 

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This is a safeguard to you. 
This is to strengthen you. 

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This is to help you become all 
that God wants you to be. 

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After this time, as the church 
grew, it required additional 

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officers or what they called 
subordinate officers, meaning 

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those in a different layer of 
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And the first ones they did were
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And these deacons were the ones 
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Hellenistic Jews. 
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They had to be full of faith, 
full of wisdom and full of the 

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Holy Ghost just to distribute 
food. 

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Are you hearing me? 
Well, a couple of those deacons 

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out of being in that office or 
that role and their 

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faithfulness, God ultimately 
placed them in the gifting that 

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He always ordained for them. 
Philip being an evangelist and 

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Steven himself becoming someone 
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Word and have done something 
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Now some believe that he himself
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With that being said, there's 
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they ended up placing and they 
were called elders. 

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Now these had a higher function 
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flock of God. 
They helped with oversight in 

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the congregation. 
In fact, some even moved into 

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the role of pastoring. 
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pastoring or feeding the flock 
for a season until the gift came

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in or they themselves, through 
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became an actual pastor of that 
particular flock. 

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Are you hearing what I'm saying?
So we already see beyond the 

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time we're in that elders exist,
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elders also exist. 
In Titus chapter 1, verses 5 

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through 6, I want to look at the
Amplified classic. 

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It says this. 
For this reason I left you 

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behind. 
Now Paul's talking to Titus that

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many believe Titus is an 
apostle. 

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You understand the 12 apostles 
of the Lamb, and then you have 

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of which Matthias is one of 
those because Judas betrayed 

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himself. 
But then you understand there 

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were other apostles because Paul
is obviously called an apostle, 

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but there are many others that 
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OK. 
Titus is believed to be 1. 

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For this reason Paul the Apostle
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Crete, I left you behind in 
Crete, that you might set right 

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what was defective and and 
finish what was left undone, 

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that you might appoint elders 
and set them over the church's 

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assemblies in every city, as I 
directed you for next verse. 

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Is that the second verse? 
There it is. 

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These elders should be men who 
are unquestionable, have are of 

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unquestionable integrity and are
irreproachable, the husband of 

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but one wife, those children 
whose children are well trained 

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and are believers. 
These elders are not open to 

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accusations of being loose and 
moral and and conduct or unruly 

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and disorderly. 
OK, so here a church is 

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established, but the church is 
not given the right by the head 

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of the church. 
Who who created this order? 

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Jesus Christ, the head of the 
church. 

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Then through the gift of the 
apostle from the apostle the 

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appoint the particular leaders 
of the church. 

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Saints do not vote for their 
elders. 

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Apostles appoint the elders of 
the church now. 

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Just because we are a couple of 
1000 years removed from the 

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writings of the book of Acts, 
the original occurrences, does 

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not mean God has changed His way
of doing church now. 

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Man has changed the church 
according to their ways and 

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there are many denominations and
things that they do that are 

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probably more in line in the 
government's that they, their 

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natural governments and they are
in a Kingdom. 

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But we endeavor to follow the 
voice of the Lord. 

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Are you hearing me? 
And so we see here that the 

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apostles, Paul specifically 
telling Timothy, who was 

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submitted to the authority of 
Paul and the churches he 

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planted, 'cause he helped Paul 
plant those churches, he said, 

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you appoint the elders in every 
city. 

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I'm giving you the direction of,
in essence, I'm authorizing you 

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because this is the order the 
head of the church is telling 

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us. 
And these are the qualifications

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you are to look for in order for
us to have them as elders in the

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church. 
Are you hearing me? 

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So here's a few things that 
Scripture tells us that elders 

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will do within a church body. 
The first thing that we can see 

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is elders aid in establishing 
church doctrine and culture. 

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Elders are pretty it's pretty 
serious business being an elder.

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OK Acts chapter 16 verse 4 says 
it this this way. 

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Now, while they were passing 
through the cities, they were 

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delivering the decrees which had
been decided upon by the 

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apostles and elders who were in 
Jerusalem for them to observe. 

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So here we have Paul coming into
another area, some other 

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churches outside of Jerusalem, 
that they are communicating 

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decrees. 
These are orders, say orders. 

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It's OK to say stuff like this 
in the Kingdom. 

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Now, if you're in religion, you 
have a problem with this, but in

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the Kingdom you have no problem 
with this because you understand

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they had orders. 
In essence, they went to the 

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church and says this is the 
culture and doctrine that you 

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are to stand with. 
And this decision is not been 

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taken lightly. 
It has been through a process of

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of seeking the Lord and knowing 
what His thoughts are on this 

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particular matter. 
Are you hearing me? 

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See, in our society today, we 
have taken a few scriptures and 

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we have turned them with our 
government. 

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What we've done is we've taken 
the scripture that we're all led

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by the Spirit. 
We've taken the scripture that 

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no one teaches you but the Holy 
Ghost. 

453
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,240
We've taken these scriptures, 
you know that all of us can hear

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00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,280
the Holy Ghost. 
And so the minute we do that, we

455
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,560
say, well, you know what? 
I can hear God just like you 

456
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,600
can, and you can't tell me. 
And I'm listening to God. 

457
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,080
He's the only one teaching me 
anyway. 

458
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,720
So we take the independent 
spirit of our U.S. government 

459
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,520
and we apply it to our spiritual
walk, and we use Scripture to 

460
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,440
back our rebellion because 
independence is the most 

461
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,200
dangerous word in the Kingdom. 
The second most dangerous word 

462
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,880
is rebellion. 
Now, no one's telling you to 

463
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,760
listen to a pastor just because 
he says it, because Paul says 

464
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,040
search the Scripture for 
yourself to see if it's so. 

465
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,840
But here's the thing, it it when
they're in the gifting and 

466
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,120
they're truly seeking God, 
they'll come to establish the 

467
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,000
truth that you yourself will 
come in line with that same 

468
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,520
truth. 
You're not going to have your 

469
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:14,040
own truths. 
They are not your own truths in 

470
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,320
God's Kingdom because Jesus said
that straight. 

471
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:23,160
I am the way, the So you don't 
have a truth. 

472
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,320
I have a truth. 
No, there's the truth of how God

473
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,360
sees it. 
And if we haven't come to that, 

474
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:37,040
we need to stay on it until we 
hear the word of God. 

475
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,800
But you understand God has no 
problem with going through his 

476
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,960
layers of leadership. 
None. 

477
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,160
He has no issue because he knows
those gifts of apostle, prophet,

478
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,720
pastor, teacher and evangelist 
are to what equip the Saints. 

479
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:58,040
It's within their gifting to 
have insight to doctrine and 

480
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,800
culture of the Kingdom by which 
then they would communicate that

481
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,800
when you hear you would go yes. 
Now the problem is your spirit 

482
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:11,800
says yes, but your flesh will go
no because you have to change 

483
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,800
your thinking. 
Well, this chapter 16, verse 4, 

484
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,600
where did it come from? 
Back up a chapter. 

485
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,560
We won't read the whole thing, 
but I'll give you the context of

486
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:26,640
this decree, these orders, these
commands, these things that the 

487
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,560
church is to yield and submit 
and obey and teach because it 

488
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:38,520
has come from the apostles and 
elders of Jerusalem that are 

489
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,200
yielded and submitted to the 
head of the church. 

490
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,920
Acts chapter 15, verse one and 
two, it says some men came down 

491
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,280
from Judea and began teaching 
the brethren. 

492
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,960
This is what they were teaching.
Now unless you are circumcised 

493
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,520
according to the custom of 
Moses, you cannot be saved. 

494
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,080
And when Paul and Barnabas had 
great dissension and debate with

495
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,440
them, notice what they didn't 
do. 

496
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,600
Well, brothers, we can just 
agree to disagree. 

497
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:11,360
I mean, we've really developed 
kind of a church culture in the 

498
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,880
US Like, you know, it's like 
it's so bad for us to debate 

499
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,840
Scripture. 
I mean, when you have a heart 

500
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,560
just to know truth, what's the 
problem? 

501
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,480
There's really not a problem. 
I mean, we even see it in our 

502
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:29,239
own government. 
I mean, there's technically two 

503
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,239
sides and nobody wants to come 
together and collaborate or 

504
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:38,840
really, you know, say, OK, what 
is the best thing here 'cause if

505
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,639
one says this, the other hates 
it. 

506
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,960
When the other one says 
something they had, the other 

507
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,120
ones hate it. 
And there's no common ground. 

508
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,040
There's no dialogue. 
There used to be a time we 

509
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,480
debate. 
I saw this on a Instagram Reel. 

510
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,120
So please forgive me. 
Let it just popped in my head. 

511
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,199
And it is pretty applicable. 
A particular lady, she was a 

512
00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:01,040
comedian, and she says, you 
know, us Generation X, you know,

513
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,680
which is my generation, you 
know, it says, you know, we did 

514
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,560
some crazy things back in the 
80s, crazy things. 

515
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,040
She goes, this is one of the 
weirdest things we did in the 

516
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,640
80s because it's so weird. 
I can't even believe we did it. 

517
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,240
We did this thing called 
critical thinking. 

518
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,000
And that was the same response 
she got from the crowd. 

519
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,320
Yeah, I know. 
You know, there was this time 

520
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,800
where somebody would give a side
and somebody else would give a 

521
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,440
side and then we between both 
sides would form an opinion and 

522
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:41,280
then we would make a decision. 
We did this thing called 

523
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,360
critical thinking, Amen. 
If you use that term now, they 

524
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,520
just call you critical. 
But the Bible says seek. 

525
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,200
And how can you seek first 
unless you can become critical 

526
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,840
at how you think compared to 
what he's saying, Amen? 

527
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,560
And so we see here that 
somebody's preaching a thought 

528
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,880
process that Paul and Barnabas 
oppose. 

529
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,120
And it said when Paul and 
Barnabas had great dissension 

530
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,360
and debate with them, the 
brethren of this particular 

531
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,680
church determined that Paul and 
Barnabas and some others of them

532
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,560
should go up to Jerusalem. 
To who? 

533
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,600
The apostles and elders 
concerning this issue. 

534
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,680
Hallelujah. 
So notice, yeah, this is real 

535
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,720
good notice that the church 
didn't say, well, we're going to

536
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,560
believe what we want to believe.
They're like, you know what? 

537
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,280
We're going to go to the 
leadership. 

538
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,440
It's what we're going to do. 
So Paul and Barnabas take off 

539
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,600
and go to Jerusalem. 
Are you hearing me? 

540
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,440
Let's follow this account then. 
So the next verse, then we'll 

541
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,240
look at jump down to verse 4. 
And when they arrived at 

542
00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:00,200
Jerusalem, they were received by
the church and the apostles, and

543
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,080
the well are they. 
And they reported all that God 

544
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,680
had done with them. 
But some of the sect of the 

545
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,200
Pharisees who had believed stood
up, saying, now these Pharisees 

546
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,040
are believers, but what's the 
problem with the Pharisees? 

547
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:22,360
These particular Pharisees have 
a old way of thinking that they 

548
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:28,280
brought into the new covenant. 
They're born again, but their 

549
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,200
mind is not renewed to this 
thing called the life of faith. 

550
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:37,160
And so they believe stood up, 
saying it is necessary to 

551
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,600
circumcise them and to direct 
them to observe the law of 

552
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,960
Moses. 
Because even even Paul and Jesus

553
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,280
said that the the law itself is 
righteous and just. 

554
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,520
But you of your own nature 
that's cut off from God cannot 

555
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,280
live according to it. 
You'll never measure up. 

556
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,600
Christ is the only one who did. 
So the apostles and the elders 

557
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,920
came together to look into this 
matter. 

558
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,000
So what do they do? 
They looked in and there's from 

559
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,680
the next few verses, there's 
this dialogue that's taking 

560
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,440
place concerning something 
because again, what are they 

561
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,000
posing? 
Unless they are in essence, they

562
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000
were concluded, I'm born again 
because I'm circumcised. 

563
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,160
And if these guys are truly 
circumcised or born again, then 

564
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,560
they would be circumcised. 
So again, they were looking for 

565
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:30,000
this physical manifestation of 
their salvation as opposed to 

566
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,520
fruit manifestation because 
there should be some 

567
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,360
manifestation of your salvation.
I'm just going to say that if 

568
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,440
you're truly born again, there 
should be fruit associated, 

569
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,880
There should be a lifestyle 
change. 

570
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,000
You should function differently.
And the apostle Paul wrote in 

571
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,360
many of the churches certain 
decrees as an apostle that you 

572
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,200
live this way. 
You do not live this way in the 

573
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,640
Kingdom. 
Are you hearing me OK? 

574
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,520
And the reason you don't is 
because you're a different 

575
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,640
nature because the those actions
you'll never see in heaven. 

576
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,160
Jump down to verse 13. 
After they had stopped speaking,

577
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,560
James, who is an apostle, 
answered saying, brethren and 

578
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,160
pastor of this church, brethren,
listen to me, we get down to 

579
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,200
verse 19. 
Therefore, it is my judgment 

580
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,320
this is the apostle. 
Now. 

581
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,400
This is after they had heard 
everything he himself had 

582
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,040
discussed with the other 
apostles of the Church of which 

583
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,920
he oversaw that church and was 
pastoring that church, plus with

584
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,360
his elders, they're having 
healthy conversation. 

585
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,120
He's like, what do you think? 
Where's this at? 

586
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,240
Now I do this with my staff. 
I will throw thoughts out to 

587
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:38,400
them. 
I said, what do you think? 

588
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,680
You know, now the Bible says 
this and the Bible says this. 

589
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,680
We call that those sessions Iron
Sharpening Iron. 

590
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,880
And I don't mind looking at 
something from a totally 

591
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,680
different angle because anything
that is of truth will be 

592
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,760
strengthened and anything that 
is alive will be destroyed. 

593
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:55,360
I have no problem. 
See, some people won't ask 

594
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,840
because they're afraid they'll 
get deceived. 

595
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,240
How can I be deceived when I 
follow the spirit of truth and 

596
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:03,000
truth is available? 
When you have a heart to know 

597
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,480
truth, you won't be deceived. 
The only reason people get 

598
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,560
deceived is because they want to
hold to their truth. 

599
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,200
Therefore, he said, it's my 
judgment that we do not trouble 

600
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:19,040
those who are turning to God 
from among the Gentiles, but 

601
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,720
that they but that we write to 
them that they now there are 

602
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:26,200
things he told them to do now 
that they're born again, abstain

603
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,600
from things contaminated by 
idols, and that from and from 

604
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,360
fornication. 
So having sex before marriage is

605
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,000
never acceptable in the eyes of 
God. 

606
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:44,720
It is always sin, period. 
He does not say it's OK ever. 

607
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:51,960
There is no sexual engagement 
that God ever says is OK except 

608
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:58,120
for husband and wife, period. 
So they are to not fornicate and

609
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,560
that and from what is strangled 
and from and from blood. 

610
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,600
So there were things that 
they're saying now in our 

611
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,880
culture because we're in the 
Kingdom. 

612
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,880
We're not of this world, we're 
not saying you have to be 

613
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,760
circumcised. 
You can be born again and keep 

614
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,880
your uncircumcision. 
But what we are saying is there 

615
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,360
are some things you used to do 
potentially when you were pagans

616
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,120
that you don't bring over into 
this Kingdom because it's never 

617
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,240
part of this Kingdom. 
Are you hearing what I'm saying?

618
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,160
And really this statement is 
basically saying some of the 

619
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,240
same things that they were 
saying to the Pharisees. 

620
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,560
I know you live according to the
law to try to follow God, but 

621
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,200
you know, we didn't make it. 
Jesus was our substitute. 

622
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,760
So at the end of the day, you 
couldn't do it. 

623
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,200
And part of his discourse was, 
look, if we couldn't do it, what

624
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,800
makes us think that we going to 
put this burden on these guys? 

625
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:49,920
You know, we're just faith in 
Christ. 

626
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,160
However, you're trying to bring 
your religion into the Kingdom 

627
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,840
and we don't want them to bring 
their religion into the Kingdom 

628
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:07,800
because for some of these, their
worship was sexual intercourse 

629
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:14,960
in the temple. 
And they're like, no, this is 

630
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:21,880
not how we're not that close. 
We're unified, but not that way.

631
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:28,040
Are you hearing me? 
OK, so the the apostles and the 

632
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,680
elders were a part of this 
process. 

633
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,640
Now jump down to verse 22. 
Then it seemed good to the 

634
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:40,080
apostles and the notice they're 
here the whole time with the 

635
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,600
whole church to choose men from 
among them to send to Antioch 

636
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,200
with Paul and Barnabas. 
Judas called this guy and and 

637
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,600
Silas leading men among the 
brethren. 

638
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,280
So they were leading men among 
the brother, or something about 

639
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,400
their character that set them 
apart. 

640
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,000
And they sent this letter by 
them, the apostles and the 

641
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,840
brethren who are elders, so that
not every brethren is an elder. 

642
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,760
So not every brethren carried 
this authority. 

643
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,200
But yet we're not working 
against each other. 

644
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,400
We're all just stepping within 
the assignments we're called. 

645
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,920
It goes on to say to the 
brethren in Antioch, Syria, 

646
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,800
Sicilia, who were who, who are 
from the Gentiles, and 

647
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,440
greetings. 
So again, elders help the 

648
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,920
apostle to establish church 
doctrine and culture. 

649
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,520
Another thing elders will do, we
can see here in Scripture 

650
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:41,080
they're church leaders who help 
in making disciples. 

651
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,800
Look what it says in First 
Timothy 517 and 19. 

652
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,920
The elders who rule well are to 
be considered worthy of double 

653
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,400
honor, especially those who work
hard at preaching and teaching. 

654
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,960
For the Scripture says you shall
not muzzle the ox while he is 

655
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,000
threshing and the labor is 
worthy of his wage. 

656
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,200
Do not receive an accusation 
against an elder except on the 

657
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,720
basis of two or three witnesses.
So here we see that elders are 

658
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:10,680
part of this process of actually
helping disciples, which means 

659
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,560
elders can help fulfill the 
pulpit. 

660
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:15,000
They can even do it for a season
if necessary. 

661
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,880
But they're definitely in the 
process of rightly dividing the 

662
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,440
word of truth. 
And why wouldn't this be true? 

663
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,960
Because they're part of the 
process of making sure the 

664
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:30,080
doctrine of the church is pure, 
has a purity about it, and that 

665
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,080
we're not going into our own 
thinking and what we want to do.

666
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,280
And they themselves then, you 
know, continue as the apostles. 

667
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,480
This is it. 
Then they carry that teaching 

668
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,760
all the way through the layers 
of the church. 

669
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,560
Elders do not preach their own 
truth in Sunday school class, 

670
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,520
right? 
Come on now. 

671
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:59,000
They uphold the doctrine of the 
church, even to the point that 

672
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:04,280
in some of these scriptures, the
elders can help correct the 

673
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:12,960
church body when they're off. 
They can help stop issues that 

674
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:18,440
take place within the church 
when people are saying things 

675
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:23,080
and trying to, you know, carry 
certain thoughts about Scripture

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across the congregation. 
That isn't right. 

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They can do this. 
But last little note concerning 

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this, although I'm not going to 
deal with it a whole lot today, 

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but you do not receive an 
accusation against an elder 

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except base two or three 
witnesses. 

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You'd never let one person come 
up and talk to you about an 

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elder ever. 
They better have a handful of 

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people with them, number one, 
and then at that point, if 

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there's they're you know, 
accusations collaborate. 

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It is only to be able to go 
bring restoration. 

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But you understand Jesus had 
collaborated and non 

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collaborated witnesses against 
him. 

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At no place do you just talk 
about an elder ever. 

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You don't do it. 
I said you don't do it. 

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Now I'll give you a little 
nugget real quick. 

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Peter in one of his writings who
was an apostle and John himself 

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who is an apostle. 
Peter said in one of his writing

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he said the elder to the elders.
John said the elder to the lady 

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elect. 
Both of them acknowledged we 

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were elders because the simple 
definition of elder is old man. 

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But it's not just age, it's 
wisdom, OK? 

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It's wisdom in the word, 
experience, character through 

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trials and tribulations. 
So not only do you not talk 

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about elders, the gift should 
not be talked about either. 

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Are you hearing me? 
OK, Elders pray and lay hands on

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the sick of the church. 
James chapter 5, verses 14 to 

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15. 
Y'all doing all right? 

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Is anyone among you sick? 
Then he must call for the elders

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of the church and they are to 
pray over him, anointing him 

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with oil in the name of the Lord
Jesus, and pray. 

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And the prayer offered in faith 
will restore the one who was 

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sick, and the Lord will raise 
him up. 

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And if he has committed sins, 
they will be forgiven him. 

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So again, an elder can come to 
your hospital, anoint you with 

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oil, or can come to your house. 
Now again, the this the context 

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here is if someone cannot make 
it to church, they are to call 

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the elders know what it doesn't?
James, who is the apostle, who 

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was the one who gave the decree 
so that Paul the apostle and 

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Barnabas could go out and and 
along with Silas and tell the 

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churches, this is our doctrine, 
these are our values, this is 

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our culture. 
He says, now listen, I'm the 

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apostle and pastor of Jerusalem.
I'm just going to let you know 

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that if somebody's sick of the 
house and you can't get to us, 

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I'm sending an elder. 
James is saying I'm not coming. 

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Now, it's amazing how many 
Saints get offended if the 

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senior lead pastor doesn't show 
up. 

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He didn't even come to pray for 
me. 

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I sent you an anointed office. 
That's their gifting. 

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And we're here to complement 
each other. 

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I mean, the Bible says believers
can lay hands on the sick, but 

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we're not just sending a 
believer, we're sending an 

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elder, someone appointed by God 
within that vision that it will 

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have an anointing to lay hands 
on you to be healed. 

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Can I get an Amen? 
So again, just thank God for the

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body of Christ. 
Can we say that thank you, Lord?

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Come on, say thank you, Lord, 
for the body of Christ. 

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We are all very important in our
assignments, Amen. 

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Just just be thankful, OK? 
The last thing I'm going to show

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you real quick today is that 
elders can take part with a 

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laying on of hands at 
ordinations. 

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First Timothy chapter 4 verse 
14. 

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The amplified says it this way, 
Paul talking to Timothy, he says

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do not neglect the gift which 
which is in you, that special 

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inward endowment which was 
directly imparted to you by the 

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Holy Spirit by prophetic 
utterance when the elders laid 

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their hands upon you at your 
ordination. 

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So elders can participate in 
laying hands on those who are 

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called into the ministry. 
Can I get an Amen?

