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The S&P 500 is currently sitting
near an all time high. 

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Equity traders seem to have 
decided that a war in the Middle

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East, one that has effectively 
closed the world's most critical

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energy choke point, is simply a 
great opportunity to buy the 

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dip. 
And buying the dip has become 

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such a winning strategy in 
recent years that dips don't 

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really happen much anymore. 
The average consumer is a bit 

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less convinced. 
U.S. consumer sentiment has 

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recently fallen to a 74 year 
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To put that in perspective, 
those 74 years included the 

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assassination of JFK, the 1973 
oil embargo, September 11th, the

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global financial crisis, and a 
global pandemic. 

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And people are more miserable 
now than they were during any of

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those times. 
That is not a great number if 

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you're an incumbent politician 
running for office. 

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The immediate cause of this 
collapse in sentiment is the 

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closure of the Strait of Hormuz,
though as we'll see, the 

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problems run much deeper than 
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In late February, an assault on 
Iran shut down the transit of 

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roughly 20 million barrels of 
oil a day, about 1/5 of the 

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global supply. 
Martin Wolf, riding in the 

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Financial Times, points out that
the Strait is a vital artery of 

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the world economy, a place in 
which one starts a war only 

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after careful consideration of 
goals, means and risks. 

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He goes on to say that's not 
what happened. 

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Brent crude has, as of the time 
of this recording, been pushed 

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above $125.00 a barrel. 
As I mentioned in last week's 

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video, oil prices feed directly 
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fertilizer, and shipping, so 
that increase is rapidly working

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its way into everything you buy.
Politicians would very much like

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to blame our current cost of 
living problems entirely on this

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geopolitical bad luck. 
And while the energy shock has 

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certainly acted as a massive 
accelerant, several highly 

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credible economists had been 
warning that a surge in 

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inflation was sitting in the 
pipeline long before the 1st 

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missile was fired. 
The war merely exposed the 

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problem, according to a new book
by Manoj Pradhan and Charles 

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Goodheart. 
For three decades, central 

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bankers have been taking credit 
for a structural decline in 

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global prices that had almost 
nothing to do with their policy 

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decisions. 
They had the wind at their backs

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and mistook it for the power of 
their own legs. 

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Now that the windows changed 
direction, the job of central 

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banker has become one of the 
most difficult and politically 

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dangerous roles in public life. 
Pradhan and Goodhart argue that 

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from about 1990 until recently, 
the global economy was coasting 

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on what economists call a 
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The baby boomer generation had 
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labor participation rose 
sharply, and China and Eastern 

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Europe joined the global trading
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This essentially amounted to a 
once in history doubling of the 

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effect of global labor force, 
which is a very reliable way to 

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keep wages and prices from going
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Central bankers looked at this 
massive structural gift of cheap

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labor and cheap goods and 
concluded that their success was

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down to their own financial 
genius. 

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To understand why this matters, 
we need to talk about something 

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called the Phillips Curve. 
It's one of the most important 

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relationships in economics, and 
for years people thought that it

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was broken. 
The Phillips Curve is the idea, 

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dating back to 1958, that when 
unemployment is low and workers 

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are scarce, wages go up and 
prices follow. 

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When there's lots of spare 
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Simple enough. 
But for the last two decades, 

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central bankers kept interest 
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Unemployment fell to historic 
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inflation barely moved. 
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papers about the death of the 
Phillips curve. 

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Central bankers took credit for 
having conquered inflation 

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through sheer competence. 
Pradhan and Goodhart argue that 

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the Phillips curve wasn't dead, 
China had just put it in a coma.

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The author's insight is that we 
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inflation as one big number. 
There are two separate inflation

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dynamics running at the same 
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The 1st is a domestic services 
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Your hairdresser, your plumber, 
your lawyer, the people who have

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to physically be where you are. 
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local labour market. 
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prices go up. 
That relationship never broke 

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down. 
The second is a goods curve, and

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for the last 30 years this one 
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When you offshore most of your 
manufacturing to a country where

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labour is cheaper, the price of 
physical goods falls 

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relentlessly. 
And that goods deflation was so 

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powerful that it masked the fact
that services inflation, the 

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domestic part, was ticking along
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What this meant in practice was 
that central banks in the US and

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Europe were essentially 
outsourcing their inflation 

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targets to Chinese factories. 
Politicians got to enjoy solid 

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economic growth with low 
borrowing costs. 

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Workers in the services sector 
got steady pay rises and nobody 

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had to make any difficult 
decisions because cheap 

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televisions and cheap clothing 
from China were pulling the 

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average down. 
It was a great arrangement for 

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everyone. 
The workers who lost those 

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factory jobs didn't vanish. 
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services sector, which is one of
the reasons services inflation 

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never actually went away. 
But that era is now coming to an

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end. 
The world's population is aging 

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rapidly, and the global labor 
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China is still flooding certain 
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European car manufacturers can 
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But the structural force that 
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30 years is running out of Rd. 
China's own population is aging 

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faster than almost any major 
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It's workers are moving out of 
export driven manufacturing and 

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into domestic services, and on 
top of that tariffs and trade 

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barriers are now actively 
blocking whatever cheap goods 

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China does produce from reaching
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prices. 
The The structural tailwind that

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made central banking look easy 
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It's being erased by 
demographics, by geopolitics, 

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and by deliberate policy. 
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operating without that tailwind,
in an economy where workers are 

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scarce, where services inflation
is persistent, and where your 

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government is running enormous 
deficits that it has no 

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realistic plan to pay for, the 
job starts to look very 

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different. 
If you think this structural 

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shift sounds like an abstract 
long term problem for future 

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generations to worry about, it's
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The bill is already coming, due 
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Strait of Hormuz was closed, 
before Brent hit 125, Adam 

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Posen, the president of the 
Peterson Institute for 

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International Economics, and 
Peter Orszag, the CEO of Lazard,

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published a piece arguing that 
US inflation could hit 4% by the

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end of this year. 
That is double the Federal 

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Reserve's target. 
And their argument had nothing 

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to do with an energy shock. 
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ingredients for a resurgence in 
inflation were already in place.

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The war has simply thrown 
gasoline on a fire that was 

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already burning. 
Their case rests on several 

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reinforcing pressures. 
The first is the lagged pass 

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through of tariffs. 
When a government announces a 

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massive new tariff, businesses 
don't raise their prices the 

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next morning. 
They work through their existing

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inventory. 
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competitors do, and they wait to
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But eventually the old inventory
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Poznan Orszag note that 
businesses have now depleted the

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stockpiles they built up ahead 
of the tariffs, and they're 

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beginning to pass those costs on
to consumers in smaller 

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increments, which means the 
inflationary effect is still 

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building, not fading. 
Then there's the labor market, 

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which is tightening. 
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whether through aging, 
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the same thing happens. 
Labor is an input, just like 

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energy or raw materials. 
When it becomes scarcer, wages 

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rise and those costs get passed 
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Several Federal Reserve banks 
now estimate that the break even

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employment level, the number of 
jobs the economy needs to add 

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each month to keep unemployment 
stable, has roughly halved since

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early 2024. 
The labor market is considerably

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tighter than the headline 
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You might reasonably ask whether
automation and AI could fill the

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gap, and over time, they 
possibly will. 

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In some sectors, as Posner has 
argued, the history of 

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technological disruption 
suggests that the productivity 

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gains tend to arrive before the 
deflationary effects do. 

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In the near term, scarce workers
mean higher wages, and higher 

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wages in the services sector 
means higher prices at the 

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dentist, the care home, and the 
mechanic. 

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On top of that, fiscal policy 
remains remarkably loose. the US

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government is expected to run a 
deficit exceeding 7% of GDP this

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year, which is the sort of 
number you usually only see 

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during a war or a major 
recession, not during a period 

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of full employment. 
And financial conditions are 

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much more accommodating than the
Federal Reserve's headline 

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interest rate would suggest. 
Credit spreads are tight, 

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household wealth is at record 
levels, and private credit 

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markets are supplying nearly $2 
trillion of alternative 

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financing that sits completely 
outside the traditional banking 

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system. 
As Posen put it on the Odd Lots 

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podcast a few months ago, the 
Fed has tightened, but the 

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economy hasn't really noticed. 
Finally, and this may be the 

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most important piece, inflation 
expectations are beginning to 

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drift. 
When people experience price 

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increases on highly visible 
frequent purchases, eggs, 

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gasoline, home repairs, they 
start to expect higher prices in

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the future. 
They demand higher wages. 

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Businesses raise prices in 
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It becomes self reinforcing. 
This is exactly what Paul 

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Volcker warned about in 1979 
when he said that inflation 

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feeds in part on itself. 
The problem today is that after 

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the pandemic surge, inflation 
never truly returned to 2%. 

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We're entering this new energy 
shock with an economy that was 

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already primed for higher 
prices, which is not an ideal 

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starting position. 
This brings us to the question 

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of who actually pays for all of 
this, because the inflation 

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problem and the government 
spending problem are not 

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separate issues. 
They are the same problem. 

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To understand why government 
deficits are expanding at such a

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rapid pace, we have to look back
to the 1960s, when an economist 

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named William Baumol asked a 
fairly simple question. 

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He wanted to understand why a 
string quartet playing Beethoven

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should be paid any more today 
than they were 100 years 

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earlier. 
The instruments, he argued, are 

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exactly the same. 
The sheet music is the same, the

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number of people required to 
play the piece hasn't changed, 

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and the musicians productivity 
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The answer, it turns out, is 
that the rest of the economy had

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become more productive, and in 
such an environment, if you 

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didn't pay musicians a higher 
wage, they would simply give up 

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the violin and go work somewhere
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So to keep the quartet playing, 
the concert venue has to pay 

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them more and ticket prices have
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This concept is known as balm 
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it's very useful for explaining 
why concert tickets are 

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expensive, it also explains the 
structural nightmare currently 

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facing global government 
budgets. 

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I should clarify that when 
economists talk about a lack of 

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productivity in certain jobs, 
they aren't insulting anyone's 

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work ethic. 
In economics, productivity just 

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means output per hour. 
A factory worker with a new 

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machine can build 10 times as 
many cars today as they could 50

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years ago, but a nurse, no 
matter how hard they work, can 

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still only care for one patient 
at a time. 

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This type of work is strictly 
constrained by the linear near 

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nature of time, which economists
generally find quite 

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frustrating. 
As Pradhan and Goodheart point 

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out, the classic examples of 
balm oil's Cos disease are 

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education and healthcare. 
They are highly labor intensive 

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services that are provided in 
person and are thus famously 

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resistant to productivity gains.
And while an aging population 

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might not need much in the way 
of primary schooling, they do 

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require an exponential increase 
in medical care. 

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As the proportion of elderly 
people rises, so does the 

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incidence of neurodegenerative 
diseases and the complex 

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comorbidities that come with 
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And despite what our tech elites
might like to tell us, your 

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grandparents are highly unlikely
to be satisfied with a robot 

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visiting them in the care home. 
Japan has actually been trying 

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that approach for years, 
spending billions on healthcare 

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robotics, and only 2% of its 
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The elderly require human 
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have the option of working in 
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sectors of the economy, you have
to pay them steadily higher 

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wages to maintain the exact same
level of care. 

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You are essentially paying more 
and more for the string quartet,

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except the quartet is your 
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the audience is getting older by
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This all brings us to the fiscal
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Because healthcare spending is 
structurally locked in to rise 

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much faster than GDP, 
governments are staring down the

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barrel of massive structural 
deficits that have very little 

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to do with which party happens 
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In the United States, the 
nonpartisan Committee for a 

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Responsible Federal Budget 
estimates that the One Big 

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Beautiful Bill Act passed by the
current administration will add 

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roughly $4 trillion to the 
national debt over the next 

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decade. 
And there's also the well known 

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Social Security Cliff 
approaching in 2033, when the 

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trust fund that pays retirees is
expected to run dry. 

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Pradhan and Goodhart believe, 
and I think most honest 

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observers would agree, that when
that moment arrives, the 

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politicians of the day will bail
the system out rather than 

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impose a 24% cut in benefits on 
the most reliable voting bloc in

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America. 
If you ask a politician how they

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plan to pay for all of this, 
they'll invariably point to a 

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spreadsheet showing that their 
policies will generate a massive

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boom in GDP growth. 
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to huge primary surpluses at 
some vaguely defined point in 

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the future. 
This sounds great, except that 

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these promised future surpluses 
almost never actually 

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materialize. 
They serve as a convenient 

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accounting fiction, allowing the
current administrations to spend

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money today while leaving the 
bill for whoever happens to be 

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sitting in office a decade from 
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The result is a slow, grinding, 
structural deterioration in the 

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public finances of almost every 
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And when governments can't or 
won't fix their fiscal problems 

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through spending cuts or tax 
increases, the pressure 

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inevitably lands on the one 
institution that can still print

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money. 
If governments are unwilling to 

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cut spending or raise taxes, 
they have to find more creative 

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ways to manage the debt. 
In the United States, Treasury 

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Secretary Scott Percent has 
chosen a particular approach, 

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actively shifting the 
government's borrowing towards 

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the short end of the yield 
curve, issuing more Treasury 

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bills and fewer long dated 
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There's a certain irony in this.
During the previous 

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administration, Besant was among
the most vocal critics of Janet 

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Yellen for doing essentially the
exact same thing. 

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His argument was a serious one, 
that the Treasury market derives

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its special status precisely 
from not being managed for short

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term convenience. the United 
States government can borrow 

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more cheaply than almost any 
other entity on earth. 

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Because the Treasury market is 
the deepest, most liquid, and 

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most stable asset market in the 
world. 

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Investors accept lower yields in
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When you start gaming the 
maturity structure for political

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advantage, you erode the very 
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special and that tends to show 
up eventually in higher 

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borrowing costs. 
It was a compelling critique at 

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the time, and it remains A 
compelling critique today. 

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Which makes it all the more 
remarkable that the man who made

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it is now doing precisely what 
he warned against. 

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The logic behind the strategy is
straightforward. 

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Short term rates are lower, so 
borrowing short saves money 

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today. 
And if you believe that rates 

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will fall significantly in the 
future, you avoid locking in 

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today's higher long term yields.
The problem is the other side of

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that bed. 
When you borrow short, you have 

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to keep rolling the debt over, 
and if rates don't fall, you 

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find yourself refinancing at 
whatever rate the market is 

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charging at the time. 
Given everything that we've just

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discussed, structural inflation,
aging demographics, persistent 

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fiscal deficit, there's no 
obvious macroeconomic reason to 

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expect a dramatic decline in 
interest rates. 

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The strategy makes sense if you 
believe that the pandemic error 

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interest rate environment was 
normal and will return. 

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Most of the evidence suggests 
that it was not and that it will

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not. 
There is one component of the 

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inflation picture that both the 
Treasury and most traditional 

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macroeconomic models tend to 
quietly set aside, and that is 

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housing. 
Shelter costs make up more than 

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1/3 of the Consumer Price Index,
the single largest component of 

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any category. 
If you read the research 

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predicting a return to low 
inflation, you'll notice that 

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housing is almost entirely 
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That is quite an omission. 
In the year to March, US shelter

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costs rose by 3%, already above 
the Federal Reserve's 2% target,

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while overall inflation came in 
at 3.3%. 

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And critically, the official CPI
measure actually understates the

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real time pressure because it 
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existing leases rather than what
new tenants and new buyers are 

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actually paying today. 
Anyone currently looking for 

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somewhere to live knows that the
number on the ground feels 

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considerably worse than 3%. 
The reasons are structural 

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Tariffs have driven up the cost 
of construction materials, the 

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contraction in the labor force 
has tightened the supply of 

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construction workers, and 
mortgage rates above 6% have 

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created what economists call the
lock. 

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In effect, existing homeowners 
refused to sell because moving 

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would mean surrendering the 
cheap fixed rate that they 

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locked in years ago. 
The result is a market with 

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almost no supply, rising costs 
of new construction and no 

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obvious relief mechanism 
insight. 

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New household formation still 
happens. 

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People still fall in love and 
want somewhere to live. 

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But increasingly that requires 
building a new home at precisely

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the moment when building one has
never been more expensive. 

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And as I've discussed in 
previous videos, the broader 

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story of housing affordability 
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where house prices have risen 
far faster than wages for three 

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decades, is now creating a self 
reinforcing intergeneration 

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operational problem that no 
government seems willing or able

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to solve. 
Older homeowners vote in large 

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numbers and have direct 
financial interest in keeping 

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prices high. 
Politicians who propose serious 

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measures to increase supply are 
essentially asking their most 

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reliable constituency to accept 
a fall in their net worth, which

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is one of the reasons that the 
problem has persisted for as 

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long as it has. 
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though, the the key point is 
simpler. 

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Housing inflation is structural,
it's understated in the official

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data, and it's not going away. 
Which means that the single 

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largest component of the 
inflation basket is working 

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against anyone who's hoping for 
a return to 2%. 

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If you look at all of these 
factors, the housing market, the

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tightening labor market, the 
trade barriers, and the fiscal 

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deficits, you might assume that 
the public is fully aware of the

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inflation risk building in the 
system. 

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According to a recent NBE, or 
working paper on inflation 

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expectations, they are not. 
The researchers studied how 

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ordinary people and businesses 
formed their inflation 

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expectations, and they 
discovered a pattern they call 

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the of selective inattention. 
It turns out that when inflation

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is low and stable, people simply
do not pay attention to monetary

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policy. 
They ignore the Federal Reserve,

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they don't know what the 
inflation target is, and they go

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about their lives. 
This is entirely rational 

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behaviour. 
You don't tend to read the terms

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and conditions of your home 
insurance policy until water's 

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already pouring through the 
ceiling. 

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But when inflation surges, as it
did after the pandemic, people 

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suddenly start paying very close
attention. 

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They check the news, they learn 
about the Fed, and they start 

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tracking inflation data. 
The problem is that they're 

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learning about monetary policy 
at the exact moment when the 

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central bank appears to be 
failing, which means the only 

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lesson they ever absorb is a -1.
I mentioned earlier that 

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inflation expectations are 
beginning to drift. 

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The new research helps explain 
why this is so dangerous. 

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When people expect higher 
prices, they demand higher 

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wages. 
Businesses raise prices in 

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anticipation. 
It becomes self reinforcing, 

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which is precisely what happened
in the 1970s. 

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The paper points out that the 
recent trajectory of household 

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inflation expectations looks 
almost identical to the lead up 

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to the inflation surge of 1974, 
which is, generally speaking, a 

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suboptimal baseline for long 
term price stability. 

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This brings us to the political 
reality of central banking. 

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If the Federal Reserve wants to 
bring inflation back down, it 

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has to keep interest rates 
restrictive. 

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But restrictive monetary policy 
makes government debt more 

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expensive to service, slows the 
economy, and makes politicians 

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deeply uncomfortable, 
particularly politicians who are

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running for re election. 
As Pradhan and Goodhart point 

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out, in any lasting conflict 
between government and central 

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banks, the central banks lose. 
This is not a partisan 

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observation. 
It's been true under governments

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of every political stripe in 
every country for as long as 

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central banks have existed. 
When fiscal conditions 

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deteriorate and the debt keeps 
rising, the political pressure 

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to cut rates becomes 
overwhelming, regardless of what

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inflation is doing. 
We are already seeing this 

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tension play out. 
The current US administration 

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has offered some rather direct 
feedback to the Fed chair on 

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social media, initiated a 
Department of Justice 

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investigation into the central 
bank's office renovations, and 

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nominated Kevin Walsh to take 
over for the institution. 

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Borsch has called for what he 
describes as regime change at 

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the Fed, which is an unusual 
choice of words when discussing 

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monetary policy. 
But it would be a mistake to 

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treat this as a uniquely 
American or uniquely partisan 

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problem. 
The research on central bank 

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independence suggests that 
amongst the strongest predictors

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of whether a central bank will 
lose control of inflation or 

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frequent turnover of its 
leadership and being pressured 

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to buy government debt directly 
in Turkey and Argentina, we've 

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seen what happens when 
politicians take full control of

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monetary policy. 
You get rapid turnover of 

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central bank governors, the 
government forces the bank to 

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buy its bonds, and the currency 
loses its purchasing power. 

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The advanced economies are 
obviously in a very different 

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position. 
They've deeper capital markets, 

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stronger institutions, and the 
enormous advantage of borrowing 

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in their own currencies. 
But the underlying mechanics of 

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inflation do not change 
depending on the size of your 

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economy. 
When a government runs 

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persistent deficits and refuses 
to cut spending or raise taxes, 

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the pressure to monetize that 
debt to quietly print the 

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difference becomes very 
difficult for any central bank 

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to resist indefinitely. 
It is, for all intents and 

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purposes, a slow motion tax on 
everyone holding the currency. 

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And unlike an actual tax, no one
has to vote for it. 

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For the last 30 years, the world
essentially operated as one 

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massive optimized factory. 
If something was cheaper to 

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build in Germany or China or 
Taiwan, that's where it was 

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built, and we relied on an open,
peaceful ocean to deliver it. 

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That system was extraordinarily 
efficient. 

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It was also one of the great 
disinflationary forces of the 

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modern era. 
But as the events in the Strait 

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of Hormuz have demonstrated, an 
open and peaceful ocean is no 

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longer a guaranteed feature of 
the global economy. 

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The breakdown of international 
alliances and the return of 

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geopolitical conflict means that
countries are suddenly realizing

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that they cannot rely on their 
historical partners. 

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This presents a rather practical
problem for anyone who happens 

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to rely on electricity, food or 
the Internet. 

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Adam Posner's pointed out that 
Canada recently discovered it 

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has almost no Internet 
infrastructure that operates 

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independently of the United 
States. 

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All of their cables and 
satellites run through their 

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southern neighbor. 
For decades, this was perfectly 

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fine. 
You don't worry about 

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concentration risk when the 
relationship is stable. 

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But in a world where the terms 
of any international 

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relationship can shift rapidly, 
that kind of dependency starts 

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to look like a vulnerability. 
And Canada is not unusual in 

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this regard. 
Most countries have similar 

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single points of failure that 
they never thought to worry 

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about. 
So you have to build redundancy,

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and redundancy is expensive. 
Europe is facing its biggest 

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geopolitical challenge since the
Second World War Countries like 

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Poland and the Baltic states are
increasing their defence 

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spending dramatically. 
Germany has launched new fiscal 

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expansions to rebuild its 
military capacity. 

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Across the globe, governments 
are being forced to duplicate 

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supply chains, build redundant 
energy infrastructure and 

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onshore manufacturing that they 
used to happily outsource. 

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You are essentially taking money
away from productive private 

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investment and pouring it into 
government spending just to 

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ensure that the lights stay on 
and the Internet keeps working 

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when the next crisis hits. 
None of this adds to the 

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productive capacity of the 
economy. 

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All of it adds to the deficit, 
and this creates a cycle that's 

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very difficult to break. 
More defence and infrastructure 

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spending widens government 
deficits. 

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Those deficits put pressure on 
the central bank to keep 

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borrowing costs manageable. 
The central bank accommodates 

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the politicians, as Pradhan and 
Goodhart argue they eventually 

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will, by keeping interest rates 
lower than they should be. 

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That fuels inflation. 
The inflation erodes living 

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standards, which fuels populism,
which further undermines the 

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credibility of the very 
institutions trying to manage 

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the crisis. 
For three decades, central 

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bankers had the wind at their 
backs. 

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Cheap labour, cheap goods, open 
trade routes and falling prices 

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made the job look easy. 
Now the demographics have 

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reversed, the trade routes are 
contested, the deficits are 

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structural and the politicians 
are telling the central bank 

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what to do. 
The wind hasn't just changed 

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direction, it's blowing directly
into their faces. 

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Pradhan and Goodhart call this 
the age of the Unanchored 

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Central Banker, an era in which 
the central bank can no longer 

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single mindedly pursue low and 
stable inflation, not because 

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00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,840
central bankers have become less
competent, but because the 

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structural conditions that 
allowed them to succeed have 

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been removed. 
At this point, the data suggests

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that the only people left on 
earth whose inflation 

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expectations remain perfectly 
anchored at 2% is the Federal 

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Open Market Committee itself, 
which is nice for them. 

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For anyone who wants the 
detailed macroeconomic argument 

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behind today's video, I'd highly
recommend Pradhan and 

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Goodheart's new book, The 
Unanchored Central Banker. 

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Thanks for tuning into this 
week's podcast. 

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If you found it interesting, I'd
really appreciate it if you 

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shared it with a friend, as 
there isn't really an algorithm 

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00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,720
for podcasts. 
They grow based on word of 

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00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,040
mouth. 
Have a great week and talk to 

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you again soon. 
Bye.

