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Look, there's been a big break 
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And sometimes in situations like
this people say nasty things 

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that they don't really mean, but
also sometimes they say nasty 

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things that they do really mean.
And I get the feeling that we're

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in the latter type of situation 
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Just six months ago, Elon Musk 
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He had funded Donald Trump's 
election win, jumped around 

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behind him on stage in a show of
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a civil service job, something 
to do with procurement, as a 

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reward for his help. 
Early on, there were signs that 

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things might not work out. 
I feel there's a slight 

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expression of irritation or 
maybe even disgust on Trump's 

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face in the iconic jumping Elon 
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The biggest sign that things 
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the Jim Cramer tweet. 
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bullish on the friendship, you 
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to it, knowing that disaster was
looming. 

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At first, though, everything was
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Elon Musk tweeted on his version
of Twitter that he loved Trump 

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as much as a straight man can 
love another man. 

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And I think that Trump tweeted 
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too on his version of Twitter. 
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the drama yesterday, everyone 
was trying to see what was being

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said on Trump Twitter, and the 
website crashed, leaving only 

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this somewhat sad message that 
there are no truths. 

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But it did. 
Please let us know that in this 

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post truth world that in the 
event that Donald Trump does 

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compose a truth, we will be able
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So I suppose we should keep an 
eye out for that. 

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There's no way around it, 
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Elon Musk was off to a great 
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Tesla hadn't really had its best
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While it was still being priced 
as a growth stock, it appeared 

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to have entirely stopped 
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The company had just had its 
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2024. 
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from the big automotive brands 
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in the Cybertruck. 
Tesla's newest model had missed 

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Elon Musk's stated sales goal by
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Judged on sales alone, the 
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flop than the Edsel. 
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the Edsel has gone down in 
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failure in the automobile 
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According to Encyclopedia 
Britannica, ineffective 

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marketing, flawed design, a high
purchase price, and poor 

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workmanship led to consumer 
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When the Edsel was released in 
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sell 200,000 Edsels a year, they
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and had to scrap the new brand 
entirely. 2 years later, Elon 

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Musk predicted that he would 
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first year. 
After all, he had taken a 

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million deposits. 
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under 50,000 cyber trucks. 
The failure could possibly be 

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blamed on ineffective marketing,
a flawed design, a high purchase

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price, poor workmanship and 
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But none of this actually 
mattered, as despite the decline

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in sales, Tesla stock rose 62 
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2024. 
I asked Grok, Elon Musk's 

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chatbot, why the stock had gone 
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bad news and the corporate 
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I figured Grok would be the best
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whatever it is to ask, as Elon 
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scary smart. 
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despite a decline in Tesla's 
vehicle deliveries, Tesla stock 

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surged because of Elon Musk's 
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of optimism about Musk's close 
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advisory role within the US 
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Rock said that investors were 
betting that Musk's influence in

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government could lead to 
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for his businesses. 
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thought that the investors had 
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and it told me that their 
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riding more on hope than on 
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I wasn't really sure about the 
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either, so I asked Crock if it 
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of crony capitalism, and it 
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I'll tell you, life has gotten a
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outsource my morality to a 
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Despite all of the optimism from
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promise of the high investment 
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capitalism, Tesla stock has been
sinking this year and Elon Musk 

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and Donald Trump have had a very
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There's been name calling and 
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wouldn't normally expect from 
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such dignity. 
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It seems like only a few weeks 
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in on cabinet meetings wearing 
his Trump was right about 

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everything had or making 
everyone laugh with his 420 

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jokes. 
I was born 69 days after 420. 

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Wow, I know, right? 
53 years old, I'll tell you, 

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that guy could really work as a 
comedian if he wasn't so busy 

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doing whatever it is that he 
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Despite the great start, last 
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that his time as a special 
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an end, and he thanked Donald 
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him to work a federal job for 
130 days each year, and that 

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time was almost up. 
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leaving did come a day after he 
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disappointed with Trump's budget
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undermined the work of Doge, 
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the $2 trillion he had initially
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federal budget. 
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his version of Twitter. 
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Twitters. 
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But he announced that Elon would
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conference and that while it 
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work, he would always be with 
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Trump finished up by saying Elon
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See you tomorrow at the White 
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The next day, Elon turned up at 
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eye, which some media outlets 
have amusingly blamed on Stephen

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Miller or Scott Percent. 
But Musk claims it came from his

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child, a serial number. 
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the White House in a goodbye 
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that he has since called in a 
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locks. 
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Designer who's one of those 
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by pretending that the stuff 
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real in order to be retweeted by
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In the coming days, legacy media
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President Trump and Elon Musk 
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why Musk left. 
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more right about that. 
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filled with that exact story. 
It was very prophetic of Dodge 

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Designer. 
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pretending that the stuff Elon 
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in order to be retweeted by Elon
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It's wise of him to stick to his
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It's worth noting how difficult 
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been for many political 
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last year or so praising both 
Elon and Trump and now they have

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to choose a side. 
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with danger as if they pick 
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overthrow him, it's career 
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They'll get banned from Twitter 
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If they pick Elon and Trump then
ships him off to an El Salvador 

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prison, well they'll have to 
delete their tweets rather 

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quickly and be careful not to 
leave their homes without a 

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passport and a long form birth 
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never know what irreversible 
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Obviously the person in the most
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as Musk tweeted that he thinks 
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replaced by Vance. 
Vance will have to be very 

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careful picking a side. 
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quick to rush to the defence of 
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resigned after he was linked to 
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The Stafford tweeted things like
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condemned these posts or even 
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It's reasonable, after all, to 
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is too busy to know about every 
HR issue in the government. 

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That's not what happened, 
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As soon as Elon Musk tweeted his
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Vance joined in, possibly 
momentarily forgetting that his 

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wife, Usha Vance, is the 
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It was clearly very important to
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Musk. 
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to pick a side yesterday. 
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a photo of himself sitting next 
to the podcaster Theo Von and 

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wrote Slow Newsday. 
What are we even going to talk 

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about? 
Musk then replied to Vance with 

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a laughing emoji in a second 
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Vance followed up with. 
President Trump has done more 

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than any person in my lifetime 
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movement he leads. 
I'm proud to stand beside. 

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I imagined that Vance, who we 
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politeness and etiquette, is 
probably torn over who should 

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have said thank you to who. 
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should have worn a suit more 
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After all, he was at the highest
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refused to wear a suit. 
And in rap news, even Kanye West

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stepped in, urging Trump and 
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Bruise, please, new. 
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people hugging and it says we 
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So much. 
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Trump seems to have started when
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budget bill a few days ago, 
calling it outrageous, pork 

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filled, and a disgusting 
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Trump at first avoided directly 
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snapped, calling his former 

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backer crazy, suggesting that he
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and most shockingly of all, 
threatening to RIP up his 

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government contracts. 
I'm not sure if he stuck one of 

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those. 
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Elon was crazy. 
Stickers on the Tesla that he 

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pretended to buy from Elon at 
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But things were getting serious.
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perspective, losing his 
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worst thing that could happen to
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If you take the crony out of 
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left now? 
I haven't been logging into 

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Twitter very much over the last 
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what was going on, there was 
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To quote Cliff Asness, the world
may be imploding, but it's the 

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best Twitter Day ever. 
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and Musk began when Musk 
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the assassination attempt in 
Pennsylvania. 

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Musk then spent $250 million on 
getting Trump elected, which was

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the largest financial 
intervention in any election in 

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human history. 
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sweeping Republican electoral 
victory, tweeting Without me, 

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Trump would have lost the 
election, Dems would control the

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Such ingratitude, he added. 
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Musk is right in saying that he 
made Trump, Trump should 

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probably be a little bit nervous
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noticeable over the years that 
pretty much everything Elon Musk

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makes burns to the ground. 
Later that day, Musk posted a 

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poll on Twitter asking his 
followers is it time to create a

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new political party in America 
that actually represents the 80%

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in the middle? 
He later retweeted someone who 

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was calling for Trump to resign,
argued that Trump's global 

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tariff plan would trigger AUS 
recession, and many people think

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that he suggested that Trump was
involved in nefarious activities

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with Jeffrey Epstein. 
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Elon Musk for any length of 
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during the Thai Caver lawsuit 6 
years ago, Musk explained to a 

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court that such accusations 
don't mean much and are common 

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in South Africa, where he grew 
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There's also nothing new about 
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It's not the nuclear bomb that 
many in the press are making it 

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out to be. 
We know that both Musk and Trump

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were in that circle. 
Everyone's seen the photos of 

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Musk, which Elaine Maxwell and 
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In a 2002 profile of Epstein by 
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even quoted describing Epstein 
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the company of beautiful women 
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In my opinion, it's not bringing
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got Trump so upset. 
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angry about Elon's tweet is that
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Epstein files, Musk was implying
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Epstein's jet. 
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wasn't rich enough to have his 
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And Trump is hugely insulted 
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poor or ever was poor. 
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bribe jet now, but a big part of
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been the private plane that he's
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according to Forbes, which he 
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gold letters so that everyone 
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It was heavily featured in his 
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businessman. 
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knew Epstein in the early 1980s 
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Trump finds it really 
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bring that to the publics 
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It was a low blow and I think 
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Trump came back with the threat 
that he would take away the 

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billions in government subsidies
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But then, through the hardest 
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throw, he gave Elon one of his 
trademark illiterate of 

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nicknames, which always stick 
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political careers. 
He called him mediocre mosque 

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and then told him to go back to 
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Now, there's no sharper weapon 
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alliterative nickname and the 
accusation that someone might be

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a migrant worker. 
Musk, of course, shot back, 

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tweeting that he would 
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spacecraft immediately, as 
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provider that can transfer 
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International Space Station. 
Musk later walked that back 

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after some guy on Twitter with 
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cool off for a few days before 
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And this whole situation led 
many to question how the US U.S.

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government ever found itself in 
a position where one guy could 

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threaten the entire US space 
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wrote a mean tweet about him. 
That's not really supposed to be

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how things work. 
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makes this whole feud so 
hilarious to me is that there 

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seems to be no way that these 
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without making themselves look 
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When Trump accuses Elon of being
high, it leads to the obvious 

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question of why did you allow 
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the federal workforce if you 
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that? 
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each other for power, and for 
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serious damage to each other. 
Musk might be right that Trump 

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would not have won the 
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but Musk's money alone wasn't 
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Supreme Court. 
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buy the election, he still 
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Musk might be right that NASA 
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SpaceX, but SpaceX is also 
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government contracts. 
They could each damage each 

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other, but not necessarily 
without damaging themselves in 

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the process. 
Anyway, the FT reported 

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yesterday on who the big winners
and big losers were 20 weeks 

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into the Trump presidency. 
Some of the biggest winners so 

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far are European defence 
companies and Chinese tech 

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giants. 
In terms of market cap, Tesla 

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was one of the biggest losers, 
having lost $304 billion over 

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the last 20 weeks, and Meta was 
one of the biggest winners, 

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having gained $177 billion. 
Now, Trump never really hid his 

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distaste for Mark Zuckerberg, 
but it's possible that by 

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disguising himself with baggy 
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Zuckerberg managed to slip under
the radar and is becoming the 

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new Elon Musk. 
We'll have to just wait and see.

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