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Hello mate. 
Hello again. 

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It's been a little while, hasn't
it? 

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I feel like I haven't seen you 
in ages. 

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I know, what's it been two 
weeks? 

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2 fucking weeks too long. 
Too long. 

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Yes, two weeks too long. 
Two weeks too long. 

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So sorry, everybody. 
We've kind of just been basic. 

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I mean, there's no work's been 
mental fourth quarter of the 

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year. 
Yeah, it's standard stuff 

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sometimes. 
Family life, work life. 

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You know, we'd love to say we do
this full time, but obviously we

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don't. 
It would be great to do this 

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full time. 
I just have sponsorship deals. 

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Oh, man, it'd be amazing. 
HelloFresh. 

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Unfortunately. 
I mean, the reason we do this is

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therapy. 
Yeah, it's therapy. 

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It's absolutely nothing to do 
with any kind of financial gain.

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No, no, all this does is cost 
money. 

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It doesn't, and that's fine. 
Somebody asked me the other day 

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going, oh wow, you've got so 
many followers of Instagram, you

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must be coining it in. 
And you went. 

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I was like, Instagram's the one 
format that doesn't pay you for 

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for kind of Reels and everything
else like that. 

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It actually costs US money to to
do this, but we love it. 

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Yeah, we do. 
It's absolutely fine to be 

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honest, like and the other part 
of the being so busy is 

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obviously I've been throughout 
the last couple of weeks trying 

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to chip away at the messages 
because it's hard to get through

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and you've gone ham today. 
I've I've on some messages. 

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Yeah, and and I was just like 
apologising to people going oh 

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shit, you've actually messaged 
us in September. 

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But we're just like. 
Yeah, and it actually, I mean, I

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saw the the one lady was like, 
don't worry about it, just 

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appreciate you responding at 
all, which is nice because most 

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people are like that. 
Most people are just appreciate 

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it. 
Like which, yeah, we're busy, 

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but by no means are we ever 
looking at a message and going 

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Nah. 
No. 

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Do you know what I mean? 
We're always we're. 

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Always we, we get them, they 
come up on our phones, they 

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might look like we've read them 
and we'll be like, oh, there's 

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one quick. 
I need to get back to that when 

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I get a spare moment. 
But the other thing, oh, I 

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forgot to mention this. 
We've also got autistic kids. 

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So that does take a little bit 
of time away from our, our date.

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Like Lydia last night. 
Gee, I've said she's been 

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sleeping better. 
We're in half term now and I 

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think you're right at 7:30. 
She should be going down soon, 

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won't she? 
She was so wired last night, 

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like just bouncing between her 
bed, main bedroom, going back 

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and forth, dangling little 
things in front of her eyes. 

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It's like 12:30 until she really
fell asleep. 

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Yeah, there's no school. 
No school. 

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And then she was up at 6:30. 
So it's like, again, it must be 

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that school thing that 
absolutely knackers around. 

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Mentally stimulating those. 
Yeah, I think so. 

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And then she's like, right, I'm 
just going to like, do 

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trampolining for four hours, 
five hours, which was great fun.

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Actually, and what's the reports
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Back really positive, Yeah, 
really positive. 

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She settled in really well. 
Staff staff have been superb 

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with her, her teachers been 
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Amy coming out giving little 
daily reports on her and 

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everything like that. 
And she sent back towards the 

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last week, they were noticing 
that she's becoming sociable. 

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She's recognising the kids that 
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when there's a mixture of kids. 
So she's and then they said 

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she's like walking up to these 
kids, but then like doesn't know

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what to do and just kind of 
backs off and does her own 

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thing. 
And then we found out last week 

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that she's got a boyfriend 
already. 

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So typical Williams doesn't 
doesn't hang about. 

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But notice they said there's 
this boy that she just like, 

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just goes up to and just like 
taps his belly. 

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Like apparently this this lad is
he's quite like typically like 

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an autistic kid, standoffish. 
He's not like his personal space

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is his personal space. 
But for some reason, Lydia's 

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managed to charm him. 
That's nice. 

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So she just walks over, gives a 
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then off she goes, trying to 
think what else there was. 

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And then there was another girl 
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I think this is like the day 
that Lydia broke up. 

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There's like, Lydia stood on one
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table and the other girl on the 
other side, and they just kind 

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of stared at each other and then
took it in turns at just 

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laughing at each other. 
So like, one girl was going ha, 

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ha. 
And then she'd stop and Lydia 

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stare at her go, oh, it's all 
social. 

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And this was just going on. 
So like, the teacher came out 

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and goes, yeah, this happened 
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And it was hilarious. 
That's nice. 

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So yeah, that's only, like, the 
first term. 

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Yeah. 
And I've kind of mentioned to 

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you, we've seen little things 
like that one day when she just 

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like randomly started grabbing 
cards off the board and we put 

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it on the channel just like 
showing me different types of 

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biscuits that she wanted, what 
else that we had. 

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That's huge. 
Yesterday I was getting in the 

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shower and I did ready, steady. 
And then what do we say? 

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Thinking that she'd say nothing 
And then she went go. 

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I was like, Oh my word, she's 
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So she did. 
She did that. 

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And what did we say the other 
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I think it was at the weekend. 
We were just kind of, I said to 

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her, do you love Daddy, like 
messing about, Like, do you love

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Daddy? 
And then she's just going, yes, 

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I the like that. 
And Selena heard it and I think 

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she did it twice. 
And then Selena was like, you 

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heard it right? 
And I was like, yeah, it's 

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always that bloody. 
Yeah, I did hear it. 

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And it was like, we are like, 
it's like when you see a ghost 

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in it. 
Like, did you see what I just 

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saw? 
Like, yeah. 

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Oh, confirmation. 
I'm not. 

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Mad. 
It's always like that. 

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The parents kind of look each 
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And then we found it is that I 
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it. 
That is it that simple songs. 

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Super simple songs, super 
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Songs. 
There's a song there. 

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It's like, do you like? 
Is it? 

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Do you like broccoli? 
Yes, I do, and. 

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We're like, it must have come 
from that or something. 

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So yeah, like that's in a 
snapshot. 

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I'm sure there's like 100 other 
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So don't be interested in 
obviously you don't have to talk

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about it if you don't want it. 
Do you remember you obviously 

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had that there was a concern 
with something the school were. 

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We're asking. 
That that might be helpful for 

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people to understand. 
Absolutely. 

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So obviously Lydia's now in a 
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verbal safeguarding and this is 
a new thing. 

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So every day I think you kind of
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actually doing it. 
There's a book that goes between

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the school and ourselves. 
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morning. 
Lydia's had a so and so night. 

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She's in this sort of mood and 
she's eaten this and they'll 

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fill out what's happened in that
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And we filled it out and then 
Selena went to pick Lydia up and

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I think one of the Tasmania came
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bruise. 
Do you want to tell us how she 

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got it? 
Instantly? 

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I think you're on the back foot 
a little bit going whoa, whoa, 

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what do you mean? 
What do you mean? 

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And she kind of showed her the 
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she's four years old, she's a 
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various things and just being a 
general toddler. 

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And Selena came back, told me 
about it and I was like, well, 

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what they on about? 
Like you just think what they're

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trying to suggest. 
Are they trying to insinuate 

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that we're harming Lydia or 
something like this? 

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So we kind of just dropped an 
e-mail back going like, what is 

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going on? 
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about marks on on Lydia. 
I believe it was kind of the the

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principle rang back to saying 
like, Oh, this is part of 

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safeguarding that we have to do 
anything like this. 

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We've got a kind of got to keep 
a a record of not to say that 

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you guys are are bad or anything
else like that. 

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It's just to kind of register it
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accounted for and it kind of all
right, No, fair enough. 

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And then there's like another 
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they're like, oh, Lydia's got a 
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And I'm like, Jesus Christ, man.
We, I was like saying to you, 

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have we literally got on put 
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bruised scratch mark, that 4 
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And I was like, you know, they 
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They like throw their arms 
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rigid, like trying to get Lydia 
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Sometimes she just thinks it's 
funny to go completely rigid. 

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And anybody who's got an 
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incredibly strong they suddenly 
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It's like you've just got like a
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that. 
And you're just like trying to 

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manipulate her out of the car. 
And I was saying to Selena like,

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I can't have I got to be really 
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Like obviously I would be 
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I'm trying to like go in, like, 
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car. 
I'm I'm not going to wait. 

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Like just stand there going OK. 
And I'm just going to go, great,

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come on, we need to go now. 
And that not grabbing. 

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Yeah, under her arms. 
Well, they're resisting. 

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Yeah. 
So now I'm like, am I going? 

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To cause a bruise. 
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Am I going to leave finger marks
on her? 

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Or especially, and this, this is
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with a lot of these kids, 
there's kind of iron 

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deficiencies and stuff like 
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Some of them bruise. 
Quite easy, yeah. 

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Honestly, like Thomas does, he 
bruises quite easily because 

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he's, you know, his diet's not 
amazing. 

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His iron levels probably aren't 
as high as they should be. 

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I mean, I mean, we got him 
tested a couple of years back 

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and they were like really low. 
And we could say we could see 

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now from the amount of bruising 
he's getting, you know, that 

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that it was probably related to 
that. 

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But yeah, we, we kind of, we 
talked about it bit, didn't we? 

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Like you, it was kind of like a 
sanity check with. 

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Nick yeah. 
I was like, I was like, can I 

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just, am I being accused? 
Of abusing my kid here. 

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Because do I need to need to go 
to the nearest airport and get 

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out of the country? 
But. 

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But you but very quickly if we 
had the same, we didn't have 

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anyone to bounce off apart from 
Miss's mum. 

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But very quickly. 
All you got to do is like think 

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about what's been in the papers 
the last few years and you'd go,

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OK, hang on a minute. 
We'd we'd be giving them shit if

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they weren't being this strange 
with our kids. 

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So when you do that, you've and 
you did. 

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Sure, I said that to you when 
you went. 

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Yeah, that makes sense. 
I think it was it baby pee you 

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mentioned. 
And so, yeah, where there have 

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been kind of failures in the 
system. 

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Yeah, and it was even when, when
Thomas is off sick and he was 

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off sick a lot, you know, just 
every year ago. 

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And when he's off for more than 
two days, I think the school 

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they, they ask you to get on a 
video call because they won't to

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see you and see the kids. 
Literally proof and. 

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And and you're like, this is 
feels messed up, but once you 

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just kind of get out there, get 
out your head space a little bit

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and go why they doing it? 
Well, they don't know you 

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really. 
They don't know what you're 

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capable of. 
They didn't know what baby Pee's

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parents were capable of and they
were capable of for some pretty 

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fucking awful things. 
So yeah, it's it's when you 

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think, hang on, this is 
safeguarding. 

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It's not personal. 
They're just doing what's in the

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kids best interests. 
You're very quickly kind of 

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it's. 
One of those things that again, 

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one of those things that you 
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It well, and they're they're the
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Kids are non verbal. 

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They can't They're. 
Getting abused they. 

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Can't report it. 
So, so yeah, we got to the stage

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where like we were saying like 
we're going to have to make a 

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note of every bruise mark and 
put it in this book in the 

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morning before she goes to 
school with an explanation of of

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where we thought she got it 
from. 

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So like, yeah, just remember, 
like shower time, it'd be like, 

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right. 
Lydia's in the shower. 

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Let's do a full 360. 
Where are the where are the 

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bruises? 
You know, like when you get a 

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rental car and you've got a mock
down here every scratch and bump

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on it before you get fined. 
So we were doing that. 

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And then we just kind of said, 
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isn't it? 
We'll put what bruises are there

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and if one knows, we'll notice 
if there's bruises when she 

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comes back, we'll have to 
question them as well because 

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it's a two way St. 
And to be fair, Lydia's teacher 

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on the very last day I Can't 
Sing a praise is highly enough 

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came out and she said, I just 
want to speak to you about this 

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because I know a lot of parents 
are new to this. 

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We are not suggesting anything. 
We're not insinuating 

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everything. 
And exactly what we've just said

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there, it's like it's literally 
safeguarding so we can account 

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for everything. 
God forbid that something does 

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happen or there is a case, we've
got to treat everybody exactly 

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the same. 
So yeah, it's just get your head

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around it and once you do, fair 
enough. 

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Yeah, it does. 
You feel like you've been 

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accused at. 
First, massively, yeah, like 

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and. 
You've just sent your kids to 

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this new school and you're 
excited about how they're going 

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to progress and all of a sudden.
All the other parents heard. 

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What is everybody getting asked?
You know, and they are, 

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everyone's getting exactly the 
same. 

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Treatment. 
This is it. 

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This is it. 
So now it's, it's been a good 

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first first term and good, Yeah.
And now she's in. 

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Yeah, now. 
She's got a boyfriend. 

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Now she's got a boyfriend and 
she's in half term, so yeah, 

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it's all moving very, very 
quickly. 

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What's she doing in the half 
term? 

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Where did she go? 
Wednesday and Friday, luckily we

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are getting her back in with 
Suit the amazing Child minder, 

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so it's going to be a reunion 
for the two of them which is 

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great. 
Today Selena tried to fill the 

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day by taking her to a soft 
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Here we go. 
That wasn't even intentional 

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that. 
Just it's just amazing how it 

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all just interconnects 
sometimes. 

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Yeah, took her to a soft play, 
which I'm not going to name who 

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it is, but it was marketed as 
being a send session. 

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And yeah, Lydia, Selena took 
Lydia there. 

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Selena's mum went with them. 
It was supposed to be a nice 

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experience. 
Got there. 

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I'm a little bit I've mentioned 
them early on some in in the 

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podcast, I think where I. 
Can't. 

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You are going to give them away 
now. 

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Yeah, go back and watch them 
all. 

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I won't say which episode, but 
yeah, you. 

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It's one of those places where 
they charge adults, Yeah, to 

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enter, which just gets my go 
anyway because I'm not going in 

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the fucking ball pit and down 
the slide or anything else. 

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Like that? 
But yeah, they charge for the 

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adults and obviously the adults 
are then going to buy drinks and

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everything else. 
I just like, part of me just 

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doesn't like that idea. 
I just think, why pay for the 

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kid? 
Obviously the kids not going to 

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go there by itself. 
It's a fucking sense session. 

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Parents, carers, grandparents 
are going to go, but they're 

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always going to end up buying 
drinks, Chris snacks, everything

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else like that. 
That's how you get the money out

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of out of the adults. 
But no, they charge for for the 

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adults as well. 
When there's supposed to be a 

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sense session, all hell broke 
loose in it. 

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It was absolute chaos. 
There wasn't any limited 

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numbers, by the looks of things.
From what Selena said, it turns 

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out that on this particular day 
there'd been a miscommunication 

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with some of the staff and 
they'd let non send parents in 

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there with their kids. 
Need to say, absolute chaos. 

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Yeah, Lydia was in there, 5-10 
minutes at very most. 

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Didn't use any of the actual 
play apparatus. 

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Had a complete fucking meltdown 
because it was so wild. 

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Selena's mum went to reception 
just, you know, they've just 

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bought coffees as well. 
So that's the bloody tenor down 

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the drain. 
Went to the staff. 

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Like, you know, we've not, we 
can't keep Lydia in here, we've 

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got to go. 
It's a sense session, you know. 

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Would you be compassionate 
enough just to refund the the 

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price of the tickets? 
Obviously, you know, we'll take 

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the coffees with us. 
Apparently the staff rung there,

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the owner, and the owner said 
absolutely not. 

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So they just left that 
experience. 

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Yeah. 
Not. 

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Not very good, to be honest. 
Not very good. 

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And they did reply with an 
apology, didn't they? 

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Now it's interesting to know who
that apology came from because 

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did that apology come from the 
same person that said fuck off, 

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you don't have any money back 
because. 

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I, I, I can only imagine there 
might be, it would be the owner 

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that would look after these 
social media account. 

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But yeah, they, they apologised 
profusely, which again, which is

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fine. 
That's great. 

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I'm not going to hammer anybody 
today. 

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It sounds like they've they've 
had to learn a lesson from this 

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experience and maybe a few 
things did go wrong with some of

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the staff, but that. 
Place has been there long 

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enough. 
Now it's been there long enough.

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And I said to you like their 
Facebook page got hammered. 

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It got hammered by so many 
other. 

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I thought it was just us. 
It just like so many send 

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parents, just hammered that. 
And that was today. 

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Well, that was that was the 
people that went today. 

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Going this is out of order. 
It's been an absolute joke. 

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You had you. 
It was supposed to be a send 

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session. 
You mark it as a send session. 

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And this is the other thing that
pisses me off is like a lot of 

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companies out there will market 
stuff. 

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Hey, it's send friendly. 
It's all this. 

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It's great. 
Come on down. 

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We're we're all inclusive and 
sometimes it's just a gimmick. 

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Yeah. 
I just feel sometimes it's a 

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marketing employee, we'll get a 
bit goodwill, but let's let's 

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make sure we're absolutely chock
a full makes some dollar. 

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And it gets people in there when
it's usually quiet. 

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So it's another way of kind of 
getting more bums on seats, as 

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it were. 
I just got quite. 

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I just. 
Think, you know, if you're doing

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a sense session just it's it's 
got to be, it's got to be 

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capped. 
It's got to be ticketed. 

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Yeah, yeah, You know, it can't 
be crazy. 

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I know what send kids are like 
Lydia, you know, she can be 

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Really. 
Even though they're non verbal, 

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they're the loudest fuckers in 
the room so I know what it's 

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like but. 
Did you read, did you read in 

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the comments that there was some
of the, some of the typical kids

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were like making the noises that
the autistic kids were making 

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like. 
Imitating them. 

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Yeah. 
Imitating, yeah. 

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So there was, Yeah. 
So there was kids there that 

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weren't autistic or Sen, just 
neurotypical kids, but basically

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at their age just find it 
extremely funny to. 

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Which I get. 
At the rate I get it. 

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But that's where your parents 
call you. 

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Let's go oy. 
Fuck up. 

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That's when the parents should 
take the kid to one side, don't 

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do that and should apologise 
profusely to. 

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Any other parent. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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So no, not a great, not a great 
experience, which is a shame. 

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We took over the previous Sunday
to is it Little Rascals? 

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Yes. 
Dave Edwards. 

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Dave Edwards. 
Yeah, because they. 

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I I think they genuinely do 
care, yeah. 

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They they don't mark it around 
send for anything other. 

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Than no and they they do 
actually have a dedicated room 

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which is like a a chill out room
for the kids with the the light 

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the lamps with the bubbles yeah 
yeah absolutely amazing place 

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went there just paid for Lydia 
didn't pay for the adults Lydia 

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was absolutely fine loved it 
yeah loved it yeah so. 

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Does make a? 
Difference. 

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It's one of those when it, when 
it starts crossing into well, 

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it's, it's more about money and 
everything else like that, which

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I totally get. 
It's a business. 

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It's got, it's got overheads, 
everything else to run. 

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Yeah, there's no overheads 
though. 

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To adults sitting on seats, No. 
When the place isn't full, yeah,

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you're not losing anything. 
No. 

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So it's, it's one of those in 
the same community, I think 

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wherever you are, you can be in 
like Shrewsbury, Lycaster, you 

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can be in, you know, suburb of 
Birmingham or just, you know, 

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Falkirk, whatever the case may 
be. 

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If you're a part of a Sen 
community, you all talk and if 

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something great happens, you 
know, in that community, like 

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people will say, oh, this has 
been fantastic, try this or in 

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the network and, and vice versa.
There was something just riles 

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people up and, and it spread 
like wildfire. 

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Selena was showing me like she's
in like a Sen mum group and 

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yeah, there was a lot of really 
unhappy people in there, yeah. 

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Because life's hard enough as it
is. 

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Yeah, this is it. 
And it's half term and you want 

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to do something with your kids 
and you're just like, I need to 

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get out of the house. 
And then you're like, oh fucking

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hell. 
Great. 20 minutes later, we're 

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back in the house. 
And with the lack of 

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communication that we have with 
our children, if the one thing 

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you managed to communicate to 
your kid is we're going to this 

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place, whether that be on a 
picture card or something like 

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it would like with Thomas, if 
you managed to communicate that 

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to him. 
And then you get there and not 

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only does it not meet 
expectations because it's so 

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busy or whatever it is, but you,
you can't stay for more than 10 

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minutes and then you have to 
leave. 

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Yeah, you, you then you gotta 
leave. 

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That's. 
A That's a fairpoint because I 

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think in the screenshot, like 
Selena sent me, there was a one 

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mum who who'd exactly made that 
point going. 

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Yeah, but they don't take into 
account how many hours we've had

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to spend getting the kid ready 
to go out there, I think. 

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She'd come quite a bit of 
Stafford in the head or 

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something, wherever it was she. 
Must have travelled to to go 

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there and just like we have to 
do all this prep before we get 

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there, which is unseen by places
like this, you know, to 

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hopefully have an enjoyable hour
or so. 

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You'd happily make that trip if 
you were gonna have. 

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I'd travelled, yeah, two hours, 
I reckon. 

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I travelled to Birmingham. 
We travelled to the seaside just

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to drive to the. 
Seaside, I remember you saying 

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that just for like half an hour 
wasn't. 

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It it's worth going to these 
places if you're gonna have a 

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good time and give your kid a 
good hour of fun, yeah. 

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But this is it. 
You will travel if you know that

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your kid, you really will get 
something out of it. 

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You go. 
Doesn't matter. 

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Yeah, we'll go there. 
We'll go there. 

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Absolutely. 
But. 

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But you can imagine like if if 
you went there and. 

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I'm picturing the place. 
Yeah, I'm just picturing it. 

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And it just like, oh, you build 
it up and then you get there and

450
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,920
you're like, Oh no, this ain't 
going to work. 

451
00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:36,960
No. 
And then you're like, oh geez. 

452
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,560
Yeah, no mate, that it sounds 
around us. 

453
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,440
We should. 
Just then lead onto we. 

454
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,120
Should start home. 
Yeah, which then led on to 

455
00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:52,200
another conversation that popped
up and I believe the former 

456
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,080
guest of the show, 1 of the dads
that came on in the early days 

457
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,240
and his wife. 
We're kind of catching up with 

458
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,080
Selena and some of the mums and 
made a great suggestion. 

459
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,680
It's like, why don't we have 
somewhere in Shropshire which is

460
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,600
simply like does office soft 
play, you know, office, that 

461
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:17,480
kind of coffee shop, maybe some 
rooms for treatment, you know, 

462
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,640
or we're going to get somebody 
down using a specialist in 

463
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,360
speech and language or, or 
therapy and just have a 

464
00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:26,680
dedicated Sen centre in 
Shropshire which can offer all 

465
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,200
of this. 
And every day, doesn't matter 

466
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:34,120
whether it's Tuesday at 2:00 or 
a Friday at 3:00, it's just for 

467
00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:37,760
Sen families and you're with 
people that absolutely get it. 

468
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,880
Yeah. 
But then that's the other thing 

469
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,520
I see if you've got people 
working, when you said it 

470
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:47,320
earlier, just like obviously a 
non profit run by parents, when 

471
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,320
the people that are serving the 
coffee also really get it. 

472
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,480
And when one of the kids comes 
around and walks up behind the 

473
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,560
back, it's not like, Oh my God, 
you know, why'd you kid it? 

474
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,040
They just get it. 
If everyone that was in there, 

475
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,920
the cleaner, the purpose work 
person dishing out the coffees, 

476
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,880
like everybody just gets it, 
that would make the world a 

477
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,560
difference. 
You'd walk in there so less 

478
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,720
anxious. 
You just don't have to explain 

479
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,600
yourself and you know, some of 
these places, again, you know, 

480
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,840
it's not having a bash of the 
people that work there, but you 

481
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,840
get kind of very young, you 
know, 16/17/18 year. 

482
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,080
Olds cheaper. 
Yes, because they probably are 

483
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,400
slightly cheaper. 
I'm not suggesting they are 

484
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,600
getting paid a lesser wage 
because we don't know. 

485
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,480
But in terms of life experience,
yeah, none. 

486
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,440
Like Selena said, she went there
and they said, you know, it's a 

487
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,360
sense session. 
Yeah, it was like, yeah. 

488
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,880
Yeah, I know. 
I know this, this thing's been 

489
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,920
with us 4 1/2 years. 
We're aware. 

490
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,240
But then it's like, all right, 
Are these people that work at 

491
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,000
these places, Like if, if I then
get I'm going to drill you now. 

492
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,440
What does send mean? 
What, what, what we looking out 

493
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,480
for here? 
What's the signs that we're 

494
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,520
looking out for? 
You know, what could possibly go

495
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,160
wrong? 
What do you do if a kid has an 

496
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,720
absolute meltdown now? 
Yeah, it's like, but again, not 

497
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,160
all of them. 
But if you're 16171819, you may 

498
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,600
not even have kids of your own. 
And then you've got people 

499
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,000
coming in here with like kids 
with real kind of additional 

500
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,280
needs. 
But then if you've got somewhere

501
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,480
around Shropshire, like you say,
which it's not-for-profit, 

502
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,440
everybody in there has a, has a 
kind of an understanding, but 

503
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,920
also a link to why they want 
this to be a success. 

504
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,080
Yeah, it'll be a success. 
It'll just be that safe space, 

505
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,080
yeah. 
Because everyone's there for the

506
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,560
right reason. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

507
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,520
And then, you know, you sell 
your coffee to tea, your cakes, 

508
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,400
and the money just gets put back
into into it. 

509
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:48,200
So yeah, I think it's something 
that we might have to explore. 

510
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,920
Yeah. 
Through the dad cast. 

511
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,600
Yeah. 
And see if we can catch up with 

512
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,360
our former dad. 
Yeah. 

513
00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,280
Alan and his wife Alan Alex and 
see if we can get everybody 

514
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,600
together and work out a way of 
how we can explore this idea. 

515
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,680
Yeah, If anyone's got any ideas,
let us know. 

516
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,760
Because it's solely needed. 
It's solely needed everywhere. 

517
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,080
It's, it's, yeah, it's needed 
everywhere. 

518
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,920
I mean, we're like Shropshire, 
yeah. 

519
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,840
It's lovely to live here. 
We've got, you know, beautiful 

520
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,240
town in Shrewsbury and you know,
got some like great areas, 

521
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:24,320
lovely countryside, the biggest,
you know, maybe highly density, 

522
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,680
densely populated areas, 
probably around the Telford 

523
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,360
area. 
But we don't have a a major 

524
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:31,600
city. 
No, we don't have that kind of 

525
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,960
infrastructure where? 
And even even the kind of 

526
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,200
paradoxically, the local 
authority, as far as SEND is 

527
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,640
concerned in Shropshire is one 
of the better ones. 

528
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,800
It's it's it's it's. 
You know, but that's the local 

529
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,160
authority, that's. 
The local authority. 

530
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,800
As far as businesses, you know, 
there's, there's not really 

531
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,760
anything here. 
No, no. 

532
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,760
We take along it's it's a nice 
place to live. 

533
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,080
It's yeah, lovely, a low crime, 
absolutely love it, picturesque 

534
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,600
and everything else like that. 
But again, with those sort of 

535
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,240
errors, you don't have the same 
sort of money coming in as you 

536
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,960
do in Manchester, of course, 
Bristol, where the case may be 

537
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,280
in typical cities. 
So again, if there's people out 

538
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,280
there that have set up these 
kind of community hubs, I've 

539
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,240
done really well. 
They become a real centre for 

540
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,640
send families then yeah, let us 
know. 

541
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,640
We'd be interested to hear your 
your expertise and advice and 

542
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,840
and then we can kind of. 
Yeah. 

543
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,480
And the the idea of it being 
parent run just that just sounds

544
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,640
amazing. 
That just seems. 

545
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,760
It's just like a like a football
club that's owned by its fans, 

546
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,280
you know what I mean? 
Their heart's in the right place

547
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,600
then, isn't it? 
It's like, no, we want this to 

548
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,560
be a success. 
It's not there to make money or 

549
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,440
to. 
We just wanted to keep running, 

550
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,560
keep like pumping the money in 
there, helping the parents and 

551
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,080
families out who are here today.
Also be a place for the and 

552
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,880
families that, you know, over 
the next couple of years are 

553
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,040
going to find out they've got 
children with additional needs. 

554
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,040
At least there's a sense of 
people they can connect with and

555
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,440
get information from. 
We can have experts coming 

556
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,320
through there. 
But yeah, I'm making it sound 

557
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,040
like it's a DIYSOS. 
It's not exactly, but do you 

558
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,840
know what I mean? 
Even with the. 

559
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,280
Podcast that we keep, we keep 
kind of we started it and then 

560
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,880
it's like, what do we do with 
it? 

561
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,320
Yeah, we've got this vehicle, 
but we'd like we've got no 

562
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,440
destination of we. 
Something to do with it. 

563
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,120
We're not trying to make money, 
but we want to. 

564
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,160
We want to create something 
that's meaningful and beneficial

565
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,800
to the community, rather than 
just me and you chatting all the

566
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,040
time and releasing podcasts and 
throwing reels up. 

567
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,440
It'd be lovely to have. 
Something. 

568
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,520
Something tangible positive end 
product that we can go do you 

569
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,120
know what fucking hell, we've 
made this work. 

570
00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:32,440
We've had to hammer our local 
MP. 

571
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,120
We've you know, we've gone to 
some contacts that we've now 

572
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:37,480
made you know, within the 
charities. 

573
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,840
We've, we've got kind of, oh. 
We could run the podcast from 

574
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,680
there. 
As I said that to Selena, I said

575
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,920
we can have a dedicated podcast 
area where we can do ours and. 

576
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,520
The parents could come in there.
Yeah, it would. 

577
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,600
Be superb and then obviously 
hire it out to bring income into

578
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:57,200
the yeah, into the facility as 
well yeah And then there's no 

579
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,440
reason why if it doesn't work in
Shropshire, we, you know, if we 

580
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,600
do, you know, a long way away, 
but we somehow. 

581
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,360
Replicate it and. 
Yeah, manage to do it. 

582
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,600
Franchise it, essentially. 
Well, if we've got a blueprint, 

583
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,600
we can then go, hey, guys, 
Herefordshire. 

584
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,560
Yeah, you know, you've been 
calling out for it. 

585
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,520
This is what we did. 
This is the blueprint that we 

586
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,960
followed. 
As you said, let's, let's make 

587
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:16,880
it happen here. 
Yeah. 

588
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,160
And then just, yeah, see if we 
can help out other areas. 

589
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,600
Yeah, it would just be, it would
just be amazing. 

590
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,440
It'd be amazing to bring 
everybody together in that 

591
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,600
community. 
T-shirts, mate, I like your 

592
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,600
T-shirt. 
Drama T-shirt. 

593
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,760
Yeah, Where do you get that 
from, Dad? 

594
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,520
For Kurt, I got it from you 
mate. 

595
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,960
Thank you very. 
Much no problem at all. 

596
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,720
Neuro small yaps as well. 
Really. 

597
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,840
Weirdly, we're on their website 
as well. 

598
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,920
Oh shit. 
Yeah, so this is from Charlie 

599
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,800
Neuro, Spicy and Co. 
We'll put a link to the website,

600
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,200
but yeah, T-shirts, hats, 
everything's there. 

601
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,360
At the moment. 
Good looking chap. 

602
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,760
Yeah, he's did. 
He do a podcast. 

603
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,720
Who him? 
Yeah, he doesn't. 

604
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,680
Oh, is it? 
Oh, that guy, Yeah. 

605
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,720
Oh, I saw that one. 
Sorry. 

606
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,720
I was looking at this guy who's 
way better looking at me and you

607
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,080
I was looking at. 
Him, he looks like a proper 

608
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,320
model. 
He looks like the guy that was 

609
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,360
on Charlie. 
Is this the guy that was? 

610
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:15,720
Was he on? 
Was he on Love Island at some 

611
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,320
point? 
I feel like I recognise him. 

612
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,040
Look at us on there. 
I know, yeah. 

613
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Yeah, Charlie's been good to us.
Thank. 

614
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,720
You very much, Charlie. 
Thank you very much, the hat. 

615
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,120
Awesome. 
The hat will be worn, as you 

616
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,680
know, I quite like a hat. 
Yes, absolutely. 

617
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,000
So also mate, we had a, we had a
lot of questions. 

618
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,160
I'm just trying to catch up with
obviously the messages we had 

619
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,040
and people were asking about the
app that Thomas uses. 

620
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,640
Mate. 
Grid. 

621
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,880
That I was going through the 
inbox today and literally we 

622
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,160
couldn't get back I said to you 
at the time there were so many 

623
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,880
messages of people going when 
you shared that reel what's this

624
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,200
app? 
What's this app Yeah, yeah, it 

625
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,320
looks amazing What's this app? 
And we couldn't get back to 

626
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,640
everybody. 
So I said let's do a short 

627
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,680
section on it. 
And you that was. 

628
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,120
The other one you said let's 
talk about something. 

629
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,160
I was like, you said something. 
Else. 

630
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:02,960
Yeah, that's it. 
Yeah. 

631
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,960
So, yeah. 
So you explain it. 

632
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,880
So is it right? 
Thomas got his AAC device and we

633
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,280
got what we we were waiting for 
it. 

634
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,160
And guys in the community, 
you'll have seen it. 

635
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,360
We put it out there and we were 
saying he's on the list. 

636
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,840
The school have recognised that 
he's, he's kind of going the 

637
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,960
right direction to get one. 
But to fund it, we need him to 

638
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,920
kind of tick a few boxes. 
And as far as we were concerned 

639
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,240
at home, we were like, he's 
ready, but I get it. 

640
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,480
They have to tick the boxes to 
get it funded. 

641
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,200
I don't understand that. 
So we were like in the summer 

642
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,080
holidays, we were like, I feel 
like he's he's losing precious 

643
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,080
time where where he could be 
learning to use this thing. 

644
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,840
So we ended up just getting an 
app. 

645
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:52,240
Now it was called Pro Loquo and 
it was like 200 and something 

646
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,680
quid just for the app. 
But the app is amazing. 

647
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,120
It does all sorts. 
But then not long after getting 

648
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,640
it, I mean about 48 hours later,
his speech and language 

649
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,160
therapist rang and she went, 
it's come. 

650
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,200
And I was like, what US she's? 
Got 2 of. 

651
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,560
Them his device is here and I 
was like, oh, that's fucking 

652
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:14,120
great news anyway, so so she 
came I think it was about 3 or 4

653
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,800
days later bought the device. 
It was a it was a brand new iPad

654
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,920
in a case screen protector on it
and it had an app called grid on

655
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,200
it. 
Now we've talked before about 

656
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,360
you can get 11 labs and stuff on
it, see him get some crazy 

657
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,400
voices put in there like Morgan 
Freeman. 

658
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,320
But ultimately the app is called
Grid. 

659
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,600
You can get it on on iOS, 
Android and it's really simple. 

660
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,760
You can literally just get the 
squares and there's kind of an 

661
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,160
unlimited amount of levels you 
can go through. 

662
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,640
So you can have like Thomas on 
his, he's got like places, food,

663
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,920
people. 
So then when he he can see it 

664
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,360
clearly and he can click on that
and then it opens up the places 

665
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,880
and then from the places he can 
pick. 

666
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,040
But you can go another level 
deep with this. 

667
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,800
So you can go food and then 
inside there you could have a 

668
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,440
tile that says breakfast and 
another tile that says snacks 

669
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,480
and another one that says lunch,
another one that says dinner and

670
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,640
go in further which mesh is 
actually just set up. 

671
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,960
Recently you have a section, 
then in in that you'll have a 

672
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,880
subsection. 
Exactly that, yeah. 

673
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,720
So folders within folders. 
Exactly. 

674
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,040
OK, that's all different fruits 
that's. 

675
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:23,920
It. 
Yeah, so. 

676
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,840
So that's what that's what it 
is. 

677
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,840
But what's really interesting is
it's also got a keyboard on it. 

678
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,920
And we were fully expecting 
because he'd gone from the 

679
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,720
picture cards like what Lydia's 
amazingly started doing now 

680
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,080
because he went from this 
picture cards to these, we 

681
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,840
thought that that would be the 
the, the natural progression and

682
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,520
that's where he'd end up. 
But he's kind of just chinned 

683
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,880
that off and gone strict because
because of his spelling, because

684
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,400
he, you know, because we took 
two months ago, whatever it was,

685
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,320
he suddenly realised you could 
spell stuff. 

686
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,560
Now he just walks around with 
his AAC device. 

687
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:09,320
He's probably on his 
communication iPad more than his

688
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,080
other iPad watching YouTube 
videos now. 

689
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,080
Oh wow, he's probably on that 
more mate. 

690
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:19,680
He spells everything. 
If he sees a word, he goes, you 

691
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,000
know, it'll like, it'll look at 
it. 

692
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,240
So he's learning. 
He's types it in like that. 

693
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,920
But then what's really cool is 
when you type something in on 

694
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,080
the keyboard, the picture still 
comes up. 

695
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,800
That would have been a tile. 
So if you type frog, frog comes 

696
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,480
up. 
If you type fro, a man with an 

697
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,680
Afro comes up. 
So he essentially likes if he 

698
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,680
sees like, I don't know, a 
picture of an elephant. 

699
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,480
If he sees the word elephant, 
he'll copy elephant down. 

700
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,880
The picture of an elephant comes
up. 

701
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,320
And that's a really good way of 
training his brain that this is 

702
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,160
this. 
And that is the same as that. 

703
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,680
And that picture of an elephant 
that came up on here. 

704
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,360
And this is the interesting bit,
I think, is that if there's like

705
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,840
a real life elephant on this 
picture with the word elephant 

706
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,040
and he types it on here and it's
a cartoon of an elephant, he's 

707
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,800
starting to learn that, OK, they
look a bit different. 

708
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,280
This is a real version of it. 
This is a cartoon version of it.

709
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,320
But they're the same. 
They mean the same thing. 

710
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,720
And he's learning that a lot 
where he'll where there's like, 

711
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,560
oh, OK, because they, they can 
be quite, you know, logical 

712
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,080
thinkers. 
And he's like, OK, that's the 

713
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,880
same thing. 
And a good example of him kind 

714
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,080
of just chinning off, You know, 
the the pictures. 

715
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,600
We went to ALDI yesterday. 
I went and met Mish and Thomas 

716
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,920
there. 
I again, as always, I'd just 

717
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,800
walk around and run around 
chasing him while he just goes 

718
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,480
around whistling, which is to go
off on one slide when when he he

719
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,880
just whistles constantly now 
he'll just go like. 

720
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,680
Yeah, that's. 
All he does constantly. 

721
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,040
Imagine you walk in an ALDI and 
people are going, oh, you can 

722
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,640
see them like almost going. 
And then when it gets a bit 

723
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,120
closer and they see them go 
past, they look as if to say, 

724
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,280
oh, that was the noise. 
And then they look at you and I 

725
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,639
smile and they're like, OK, I'll
smile back. 

726
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,639
Your kids really annoying the 
shit at me. 

727
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,920
It's like, so then I start 
whistling. 

728
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,080
I'm like, yeah, he's whistling. 
And so am I you. 

729
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,320
Know get used to it, 
motherfucker. 

730
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:18,440
What the fuck are you going to 
do about it? 

731
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,159
So anyway, so when we left 
there, we also needed to go to 

732
00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:26,040
Sainsbury's. 
So Miss said right, give them an

733
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,960
option of of home or 
Sainsbury's. 

734
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,880
So she got the iPad 8 and she 
was like home or Sainsbury's 

735
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,679
picture the the picture cards on
the on the tablet home or 

736
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:42,800
Sainsbury's. 
And he went keyboard and spell 

737
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,800
out house. 
So he knows if he'd have just 

738
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,480
tapped on that, it would have 
said house, he would have got 

739
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,000
what he wanted and we would have
gone there. 

740
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,440
But he didn't. 
He chose to get rid of that and 

741
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,040
spell it. 
He wanted to spell it. 

742
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:56,840
That's really. 
Good. 

743
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,360
So I think that's what I think 
he's going to be a spell. 

744
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,440
They call them spellers, don't 
they? 

745
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,560
I think that's what he's going 
to be. 

746
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,360
I think he just likes there must
be dopamine or something they 

747
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:07,720
get from it I. 
Was I was going to say there 

748
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:10,840
must be some joy. 
Yeah, outgoing. 

749
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,920
I've got this new skill. 
I'll type it in that's amazing. 

750
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,960
I. 
Think that's what it is I think 

751
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,760
he's getting a bit of a dopamine
hit when he he spells something 

752
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,720
out the picture comes up and 
then we go that's correct and he

753
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:24,240
gets he gets to do that thing 
it's like multiple levels of 

754
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,560
dopamine. 
I get that I get that so yeah, 

755
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,760
so but it's called grid. 
It's a really good app. 

756
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,720
It's not expensive compared to 
the Prolo code that was 

757
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:36,840
ridiculous. 
And honestly, if you can and 

758
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,520
you've got an iPod at home, just
get one and get the app. 

759
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,960
Don't necessarily wait for 
funding. 

760
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,800
If if you feel, if you feel your
kids ready, go for it, go for 

761
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,280
it. 
And I think not with Lydia with 

762
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,840
if, if they're doing picture 
cards and they can get deal with

763
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,720
a variety of picture cards and 
then those are in a kind of a 

764
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:58,840
book where they can select them.
I mean, that's that's the next 

765
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,760
best thing, so, but that's it. 
It's called Grid. 

766
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,360
It's a really good app. 
Was there another app you were 

767
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,760
using which was like a de stress
or Ant? 

768
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,640
Oh shit. 
OK, so that was the other one. 

769
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,240
Yeah, because that got a lot 
called. 

770
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,280
Was it Ant? 
I can't remember. 

771
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,760
Something about anxiety I can't 
remember. 

772
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,080
Yeah. 
But that was I think that got a 

773
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,960
lot of. 
It did you? 

774
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,600
Put the real I think you put it 
as a story and everyone's like, 

775
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,920
what is this? 
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to call 

776
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,080
Mitchell on the phone. 
Yes. 

777
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,000
And it was actually somebody on 
the podcast who who recommended 

778
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,680
it. 
Sorry, not the podcast, someone 

779
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,520
in the in the community that 
recommended it. 

780
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,640
Yes, that's right, it was 
another parent. 

781
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,600
Yes, it was. 
It was another. 

782
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,680
Parent give this a go. 
Yeah, and we did and it was 

783
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,720
really good. 
And there's so many, Nigel 

784
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:54,360
Ansford, there's so many games 
on there, just loads. 

785
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,560
And he was just like bang, bang,
bang. 

786
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,480
He actually got bored of it in 
the end because he was just, he 

787
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,360
was finding it too easy. 
But yeah, really good app. 

788
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,480
I can't remember who it was. 
I. 

789
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,360
Can't remember, I'm just trying 
to see. 

790
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,600
If we know him though. 
Yeah. 

791
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:16,880
But yeah, it was it, it was it 
was just a really good way of, 

792
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,840
oh, I can't find very quickly 
seeing, very quickly seeing like

793
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,960
OK, because that's he hadn't 
been playing it for long. 

794
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,640
Yeah. 
Very quickly. 

795
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,520
He's like that there that there 
that there that there great. 

796
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,280
OK, sorted. 
I mean, even there's, you talked

797
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,840
about Super Simple Songs. 
It's a Super Simple Songs app. 

798
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,560
Actually, you should download 
the app. 

799
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,200
Where is that? 
Yeah, Super Simple Songs app. 

800
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,120
And instead of it being stuck on
YouTube all the time, they've 

801
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,400
put all of their videos on the 
app. 

802
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,360
That would make sense. 
And there's also games in the 

803
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,920
same kind of animation. 
We've tried these games, we 

804
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,120
might need to try them again. 
But you know, like the BBC, 

805
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,200
we've got games for children, 
There's various sort of things 

806
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,400
there which just can't get 
Lydia's attention. 

807
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,880
Yeah, for any of that, 
unfortunately. 

808
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:05,320
So yeah, we'll persevere. 
We'll persevere because she's 

809
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,720
only kind of two years behind 
Thomas and we're always in. 

810
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,200
Thomas has come on leaps and 
bangs in a very short. 

811
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,840
Yeah, time like so. 
It's. 

812
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,600
From what's happened since the 
start of the summer holidays to 

813
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,280
now, just looks phenomenal, 
Yeah. 

814
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:24,640
All I would say for anybody 
that's kind of, and I think it's

815
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:30,720
very easy to, I'm not dissing 
anybody by the way, because we 

816
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,480
did it. 
And the reason I'm saying this 

817
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,720
is because we did it is to 
underestimate what your child's 

818
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:41,600
capable of. 
Our kids, all of them, even the 

819
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,640
ones that have been told they've
got a global developmental 

820
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,120
delay. 
Our kids have got way more going

821
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,960
on in their heads then we are 
not necessarily told, but we 

822
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,040
assume maybe so much. 
I mean they are literally 

823
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,280
waiting for us to find the right
way to get through to them, not 

824
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,800
the other way around. 
It's not about getting because 

825
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,760
that's the other thing, like 
with autism, they always say 

826
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,360
like you need to get into their 
world. 

827
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,680
That's all good and well, but 
when you get into their world, 

828
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,720
you can't stay there. 
You get into their world 

829
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:16,120
momentarily to then give them a 
bridge to our world because 

830
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,080
that's where they're going to 
live. 

831
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,520
Like your post the other day, 
beautiful post where we were 

832
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,560
talking about when we're no 
longer here. 

833
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,400
That's why we need to build that
bridge to our world because 

834
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,480
eventually we're not going to be
and they're still going to be in

835
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,960
this world. 
So we've got to help them do 

836
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,960
that. 
And the earlier you can do it, 

837
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:36,200
the better chance they've got. 
And yeah, these kids like. 

838
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,280
And it's very easy, isn't it? 
It's like I say, Selena 

839
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,080
sometimes, like This is why 
sometimes when Selena, when 

840
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,480
Lydia does something, it's such 
like, whoa, moments. 

841
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,440
Do you know what I mean? 
Because every day we can just go

842
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,680
through and everything's like, 
as it is, nothing's changed and 

843
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,360
you just expect it. 
That's the norm. 

844
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,560
And it's very easy to maybe take
your foot off the gas or just 

845
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,840
become a little bit complacent. 
And I'm very much guilty of it. 

846
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,080
And then all of a sudden there's
a, there's like a moment you're 

847
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,920
like. 
How does she know this? 

848
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:08,480
How does she understand this 
sort of thing? 

849
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,080
So it's all in there, as you 
kind of say. 

850
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,120
And we saw Lydia, was it 
yesterday? 

851
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,480
Selena was asking her a 
question. 

852
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,280
And we're always talking to 
Lydia, like, you know, asking 

853
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,400
her questions and all this sort 
of stuff as if she understands 

854
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,680
and she must understand. 
And then she could just see the 

855
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,840
frustration on Lydia's face. 
She was almost going trying to 

856
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,000
get the connection between her 
mind, what she wanted with her 

857
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,560
mouth. 
And it's just like, like, you 

858
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,560
know, just trying almost like a,
do you mean like, almost like a 

859
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,360
stroke victim after they're 
trying to recover. 

860
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,960
Do you know what I mean? 
Like trying to get the language.

861
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,400
Back eternally. 
They're completely capable, I. 

862
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,520
Know what I'm trying to say, but
it's not coming out. 

863
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,160
It was almost like that with 
with Lydia. 

864
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,600
And then she just has little 
moments where all of a sudden, I

865
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,440
don't know whether it's complete
chance or or not, but the sound 

866
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,200
she makes is absolutely in 
correlation with what we've just

867
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,720
asked or what we've been, you 
know, going through. 

868
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:09,600
And it just marries up. 
And the thing to do is, is we 

869
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,000
didn't, we were guilty of it. 
But like assume, assume 

870
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,400
competence. 
That's kind of what they say. 

871
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,520
It's it's there's there's 
nothing wrong apart from maybe 

872
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,000
you get a bit butthurt if you 
assume competence and it doesn't

873
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,240
happen. 
But the other way around, if you

874
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:24,240
if you don't assume competence 
when there is competence and you

875
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,920
don't give them the opportunity 
to show you, that's really sad 

876
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,000
you're. 
Doing them a disservice. 

877
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,600
Course you are. 
I'm just massive disservice. 

878
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,400
All do it. 
We're all guilty of it. 

879
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,600
And and I said hello Sophie and 
hello Sophie. 

880
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,880
I've actually finished what I 
was going to say. 

881
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:43,600
She's got a little boy, Alby and
he's him and Thomas are weirdly 

882
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,720
alike. 
It's it's so strange. 

883
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:53,720
And they talk all the time 
because, you know, in this 

884
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:55,640
circle, you don't have many 
people you can talk to where you

885
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:01,120
can kind of relate to. 
And she, Mish suggested to 

886
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,000
Sophie. 
There was a couple of things 

887
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,840
that Abby was doing. 
And Mish was like, Oh my God, 

888
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,880
Thomas did that. 
You need to do this. 

889
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,000
OK. 
Oh my God, right. 

890
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,680
Do this and do this like shoes. 
Like get your shoes out when you

891
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,000
go. 
If he wants to go out or you 

892
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,840
think he wants to go out, get 
his shoes, show him his shoes. 

893
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:26,440
And the other day he I got back 
and Mish went. 

894
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,000
You won't guess what? 
You won't guess what happened 

895
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,920
today. 
So why she went? 

896
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,120
Albie went and got his shoes and
came to his mum and Mish went to

897
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,680
Sophie. 
I fucking hope you went out 

898
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,000
because that's. 
Why, yeah, you've got, you've 

899
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,000
got to follow through. 
That's. 

900
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,680
The thing as well, I mean, you 
don't always, you might just 

901
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,400
have one chance every 12 months 
you could be going to go for it.

902
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,840
That might. 
Our kids take these chances to 

903
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,440
communicate and they're not that
it's like a lack of confidence. 

904
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,040
Sometimes they're like, they try
something in the hopes that 

905
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,440
they're going to get it right 
and they'll go like, for 

906
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,040
example, with Alby, he's kind of
got the shoes and gone, like 

907
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,160
taking his shoes to his mum and 
like, does this mean we can go 

908
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,520
out? 
And if she went, wow, yeah. 

909
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,080
But you know, we don't have time
at the moment, so he might think

910
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:09,400
that wasn't correct. 
Yeah. 

911
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,520
Whereas if you just go fuck, 
I've got to go out in the car 

912
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,040
now. 
Do you know what, though? 

913
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,520
If if your kid does that. 
Yeah. 

914
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,200
The kids all of a sudden brings 
you a pair of shoes and just 

915
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,160
hands them to you. 
Yeah. 

916
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,240
You don't want it. 
Doesn't matter what time of the 

917
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:21,800
day. 
Yeah, he's pissing it down. 

918
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,800
Snowing, sunny, windy. 
Yeah. 

919
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,320
Get those bloody shoes on. 
Get out for a period of the 

920
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,400
time, even if it's 10 minutes, 
just so their brain goes. 

921
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,120
You've just triggered them to 
realise. 

922
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,680
That that's what that means. 
Eureka, this is what I, if I, 

923
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,360
yeah, I bring you stuff to 
communicate. 

924
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,120
Yeah. 
And then that leads on to like 

925
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,480
what Thomas is doing now. 
It exactly it's it's all not on 

926
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,440
the same thing, Yeah. 
We've got these make these 

927
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,240
connections, get these neurons 
going like, Oh yes, that's 

928
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:45,560
connection. 
I understand this and that's 

929
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,680
why. 
We talked, we talked about 

930
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,680
choices, didn't we had I with 
with early on when they said to 

931
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,800
you give them two choice, give 
them a choice of two things that

932
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,840
are that are like almost polar 
opposites of each. 

933
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,200
Other bottle of milk, pair of 
socks. 

934
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,560
What would you like to, what 
would you like to drink milk or 

935
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,760
would you like to drink some 
socks? 

936
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,120
Like it sounds ridiculous, but 
if you allow them to realise 

937
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:08,120
that the choice is an easy one, 
then eventually they're going to

938
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,480
go, OK, these are options, OK. 
And it's hard because you have 

939
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,080
to, they don't think the same as
us. 

940
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,840
And even with the global 
developmental delay, I, I, me 

941
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,400
and Mitch. 
And The thing is, they they 

942
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,800
might do it. 
And you think, yeah, success. 

943
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,960
But then don't be alarmed if 
nothing happens again for three 

944
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,440
months. 
No. 

945
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,280
And then all of a sudden they're
just going, Oh yeah, try that 

946
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,040
again. 
Try that thing. 

947
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,080
Again, do that again and it can 
be literally like that and then 

948
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,240
it just goes boom. 
So yeah. 

949
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,080
I've talked about it before. 
I always harp on about it, the 

950
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,040
global developmental delay. 
GDD. 

951
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:47,720
Yeah, Yeah, it's have giving 
that as as a diagnosis, I think 

952
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:50,280
it's quite. 
When they're 18 months old. 

953
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,480
I think it's quite dangerous in 
that you, you you then put into 

954
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,960
the parents an assumption that 
there's something mentally wrong

955
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,240
with their child. 
My kids, my kids slow just won't

956
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:03,000
pick it up now so. 
I just won't. 

957
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,040
How can they possibly diagnose 
that at such a young age? 

958
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,760
How can they possibly diagnose 
that? 

959
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,040
As far as I'm concerned, and 
I've said it before and I'm 

960
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,800
going to say it again and I'm 
going to say it so many times, 

961
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,280
the reason our kids are delayed 
isn't because there's something 

962
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,600
wrong with the brain. 
It's because there's a 

963
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,400
disconnect with communication. 
If you could communicate, you 

964
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,440
could teach them things, but 
when you can't communicate with 

965
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,760
them, you can't teach them the 
things that, yes, we think are 

966
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,880
so simple and so 
straightforward. 

967
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,280
But when you can't communicate 
that in the 1st place, I can 

968
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,400
understand why it looks like 
there's something wrong with 

969
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,280
your kid. 
But communication is like, we 

970
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,880
take it for granted so much. 
It's such an important piece of 

971
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:49,280
growing up and learning things. 
And that's why Thomas is all, 

972
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,680
yeah, 100% self-taught how to 
spell. 

973
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,520
No one has taught him. 
He wants to communicate and how 

974
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,000
he's found a way that works. 
He's found an Ave that works for

975
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,520
him and he'll just absolutely 
nail that now go down that route

976
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,400
until he's a master. 
Of it and we are lucky in that 

977
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,960
that's his special interest like
he always even when he didn't 

978
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,480
know there were letters he would
always like look at them and you

979
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,560
know like he's a weird little 
shape It's like why they are so 

980
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,320
different why is there so many 
of them so we are fortunate that

981
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,440
that is kind of a a kind of a 
special interest that he's got 

982
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,280
you know like it was traffic 
signs like that's gone out the 

983
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,000
window now now it's just letters
it's not even numbers it doesn't

984
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,560
count anymore he's like I'm just
spelling all the time so we have

985
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,560
that that is fortunate but all 
it means is like just let your 

986
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,520
kids don't keep your kids off 
iPads. 

987
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:40,960
Honestly, if if your kid hasn't 
got much in this world at the 

988
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,880
moment, let them do whatever the
fuck they want to do. 

989
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,640
Again, this is just my advice. 
I'm just a parent. 

990
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,320
I'm just another parent. 
Just let them do whatever they 

991
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,920
want to do. 
Let them find their own way 

992
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,360
because we can't find that for 
them. 

993
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,480
Because we can't. 
It's still. 

994
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,720
Learning though, isn't it, you 
know, all this like playing or 

995
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:58,840
do whatever they do, there's 
little special interests. 

996
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,920
It's all learning and it's, 
it's, it's stimulating something

997
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,880
in them. 
Like if you'd listen to a lot of

998
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,600
people and go, all right, I know
Thomas is autistic, but the rule

999
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,080
is too much T VS bad for you. 
You get square eyes. 

1000
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,120
We're not putting that on. 
You'll have an hour a day or see

1001
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,040
BBS. 
That's great. 

1002
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,480
Actually, It wouldn't be where 
he is now. 

1003
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,240
That's perfect. 
The reason he's where he is now 

1004
00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:21,320
is, yeah, maybe there's an 
element. 

1005
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,000
I'm. 
I'm guilty of this. 

1006
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,760
Selena will, will probably 
agree. 

1007
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,520
There's an element. 
When they're little, you're just

1008
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,160
like, oh, do you know, I just 
want you to be interested in 

1009
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,880
something and I, I just want you
to stop crying or I just want 

1010
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,000
you to, to be happy. 
I'll just put this on. 

1011
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,600
Do you know what I mean? 
And I can then try and do 

1012
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,520
something that normal families 
do, like tidy up and get rid of 

1013
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,320
the constant chaos that's 
around. 

1014
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,360
Us. 
Oh, and by the way, like us 

1015
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,520
letting him be on his iPad all 
the time, It was not because we 

1016
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,800
thought, you know, we understand
the autistic brain. 

1017
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,360
We know that you're going to 
learn to. 

1018
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,240
Spell. 
We were just being parents that 

1019
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:57,040
needed a fucking break. 
We were like, kid, if if you're 

1020
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,000
not going to have a meltdown 
because you're staring at the 

1021
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,760
screen, go for it. 
We weren't doing, we weren't 

1022
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,000
like some fucking amazing 
parents by this. 

1023
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,880
This is just something that 
we've learned as a result. 

1024
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,840
Tiger Mum, I'm going to make 
that. 

1025
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,160
It's not, it's not. 
It's like please, just please 

1026
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,440
find something you're happy with
so I can just like stop the 

1027
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,840
noise or just get on with 
something. 

1028
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:20,160
But by doing that, though, the 
positive is you've got subtitles

1029
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,560
on YouTube. 
Everything else like that is 

1030
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,840
clearly taking it all in as 
other children will have done. 

1031
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,320
Yeah, it's, you know, that's 
their way of absorbing 

1032
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,880
information. 
Is is that method? 

1033
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,680
Great. 
But if you'd gone the other way 

1034
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,120
and just gone right, only an 
hour a date. 

1035
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,320
Yeah. 
We wouldn't be sat here having 

1036
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,840
this conversation where he's now
on AAC. 

1037
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,440
Oh, no, it's absolutely going. 
No way. 

1038
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,000
Oh, that's elephant blue. 
I'll spell that. 

1039
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,720
Ego. 
If it was an hour a day, he'd be

1040
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:45,480
so much more delayed. 
He'd be so much more delayed. 

1041
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,080
He, he, I mean, I, I can't 
imagine how bad he's 

1042
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,800
communicating would be. 
He's communicating would 

1043
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,520
probably just barely be cards. 
Barely. 

1044
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,040
Yeah. 
Yeah, it's mad. 

1045
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,720
It's absolutely nuts when you 
think of it like that. 

1046
00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:58,440
Yeah, if if he'd been limited to
RAD. 

1047
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,280
Technology. 
Use it to your advantage. 

1048
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,640
And if anyone tells you not to 
use too much screen term, tell 

1049
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,360
him to fuck off. 
Yes, that's it. 

1050
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,200
Yeah, Yeah, I'd do the same. 
Unless unless it's like your 

1051
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,720
parents or something, then don't
tell him to fuck off. 

1052
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:15,480
But no. 
Just ask for a new iPad. 

1053
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:17,720
Yeah, but no, I think that's 
good. 

1054
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,760
Yeah, it's amazing. 
Yeah, it's really good. 

1055
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,200
It's really cool. 
I think what else? 

1056
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:23,480
What else is coming about? 
Well, we've got the Christmas 

1057
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,960
special. 
Christmas special. 

1058
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,080
I'm looking forward to that. 
We have a date, Sunday, December

1059
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,360
the 14th. 
Yeah, we have a location. 

1060
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,000
We do. 
Henry Tudor in and. 

1061
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,120
They're not charging us. 
They have been superb. 

1062
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,480
They've given us the top. 
Henry Tudor in is absolutely 

1063
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,400
lovely pub in the heart of 
Shrewsbury and I remember it 

1064
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,000
when I was it was it's it's 
recently sort of last couple of 

1065
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,600
years changed hands. 
But what was it when ad pool 

1066
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:51,280
table was at the bottom? 
We used to be in there all the 

1067
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,440
time. 
Oh, I can't. 

1068
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,240
Remember, it was cold. 
I I I remember it. 

1069
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,880
Pretty sure we were smoking 
around the pool table as well I 

1070
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,480
think. 
It's probably those days, yeah. 

1071
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,640
I think the the landlord also 
had a 1/2 queue behind the 

1072
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,920
behind the bar in case there's 
any trouble. 

1073
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,480
It's not like that anymore. 
It's a lovely, lovely pub. 

1074
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:11,120
It's. 
A lovely venue. 

1075
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,720
Owned by Jewels, It's historic 
pub or 16th century, something 

1076
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:15,720
like that. 
It's Jewels pub. 

1077
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,120
It's a Jewels pub. 
I didn't know that. 

1078
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,800
Yeah, they've re kitted it out. 
They've. 

1079
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,040
Got a few jewels? 
Oh, that really nice. 

1080
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,120
As well. 
Yeah, really, really good. 

1081
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,200
It looks absolutely amazing. 
We've got the top floor. 

1082
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,400
They've kindly waived the fee 
for us. 

1083
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,360
I think it's a great 'cause I'm 
doing a Christmas special there,

1084
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,200
so they're happy to be on board 
and it's going to be a ticketed 

1085
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,360
event. 
We're not going to charge for 

1086
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,480
the tickets, but we've got to 
give tickets because there's a 

1087
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,080
capacity for what is. 
It 80 or 60? 

1088
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,240
I think they put it as 65. 
OK, so they're going to be. 

1089
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,200
If more people come, I mean, you
can still go to the pub. 

1090
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,040
Oh. 
Yeah, we'll be downstairs. 

1091
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:53,840
I'm in a few. 
Beverages. 

1092
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,400
I was going to say it. 
Yeah, I mean absolutely if if 

1093
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,080
anybody and we're going to be 
running it, we've got it from 12

1094
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,880
till 10 or is it a bit later 
than that? 

1095
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,920
Is it 2 till 10? 
I think it's 12 till 10. 12 till

1096
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,680
10. 
So I mean, what I, we haven't 

1097
00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:08,360
really talked about it properly,
but what I'd like to do is get 

1098
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,000
there for, I mean, I suppose 
you'd be good to get a feel of 

1099
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,080
when people want to come because
it's on a Sunday. 

1100
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,680
So there's going to be a lot of 
parents that, you know, won't be

1101
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,920
able to stay for long, but if 
anybody wants to come and and be

1102
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,520
there a little bit earlier, I 
think it'd be good if we were 

1103
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,920
there. 
Well, I was, I was thinking 

1104
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,360
we'd, we'd go there, do a set 
up. 

1105
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,600
Yeah. 
So it's all done and, and 

1106
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,640
literally, you know, maybe press
record at about 3330, but from 

1107
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,800
like 1:00 onwards, yeah. 
Just have a couple of drinks. 

1108
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,200
We'll, you know, mix it in, talk
to the various parents, We'll 

1109
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,640
have a chat with you and you 
know, all the other dads. 

1110
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,080
Hopefully there's a few dads 
from the the previous episodes 

1111
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,920
are able to make it one or two 
sadly, who've got prior 

1112
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,880
commitments and can't make it. 
But yeah, just like be part of 

1113
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,520
it. 
We'll have a good, good show. 

1114
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,560
Yeah, we're going to. 
So we're going to basically 

1115
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,120
record. 
Just do it live. 

1116
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,360
We're. 
Just going to record, keep doing

1117
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,120
it live. 
People can dip in and dip out. 

1118
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,040
Yeah, absolutely. 
We'll have a pint in our hand 

1119
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,320
and some Christmas jumpers and 
yeah. 

1120
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,240
Christmas hats. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1121
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:06,240
Just have a good one. 
See the end of the year out. 

1122
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:10,440
Yeah, yeah, it'll be good. 
So if if anybody does just want 

1123
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,680
to come earlier rather than 
later, that's fine, We'll be 

1124
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,880
there. 
I mean, I'll probably just get 

1125
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,920
there whenever it starts, 
whenever it opens. 

1126
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,560
So, you know, get there not long
after dinner time. 

1127
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,800
Yeah, just come down and just 
shoot the shit and just just 

1128
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,520
chat and mingle and it'd be 
good. 

1129
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,360
It'd be good. 
Again, isn't going to cost 

1130
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,880
anything. 
Just I mean the staff that the 

1131
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,520
owner would probably just 
appreciate if you bought a 

1132
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,080
drink. 
Yeah, if you do come, please at 

1133
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,760
least buy a drink. 
I think it would help the pub 

1134
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,920
out massively and thank them for
for giving us this amazing 

1135
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,040
space. 
And and do you know what? 

1136
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,520
It's just, it's just a nice, 
nice pub as. 

1137
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:49,760
Well, it's lovely. 
It's a lovely. 

1138
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,800
Lovely pub and you'll see. 
You'll see that when you get 

1139
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,280
there. 
Smack. 

1140
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,560
Bang in the middle of the 
street. 

1141
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,480
It's lovely. 
Great stuff, I thought that. 

1142
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,520
Was what I was going to say. 
I was going to say something 

1143
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,240
else in a big hurry. 
Can you think of it? 

1144
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,400
I think I can Bollocks. 
We're there. 

1145
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,480
It's. 
The sort of thing that just pop 

1146
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,120
into your head as soon as we 
start recording isn't. 

1147
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,600
It oh, Mitch did ring me back. 
In fact, I'm going to quickly 

1148
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:16,880
ask her. 
Okey doke what? 

1149
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,440
The app was called. 
She want to answer this time 

1150
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,120
please hold. 
Hi there, what was that app 

1151
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,360
called? 
The game app. 

1152
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,680
I. 
Don't know, not on his iPad. 

1153
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,560
A phone. 
It's on his. 

1154
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,560
It's on his phone or his No, 
it's on his iPad. 

1155
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:49,000
Anti stress, What's it called? 
Anti stress. 

1156
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:50,960
Anti stress. 
It's all right. 

1157
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,920
That was on the podcast. 
I'll just let you say that into 

1158
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,880
the mic. 
You said he'd really grumpy anti

1159
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,120
stress. 
You did really, really 

1160
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,200
miserable. 
She needs to get on the app. 

1161
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:01,240
She's lovely. 
Really. 

1162
00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:03,280
Everybody OK? 
Anti stress. 

1163
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,160
It's called anti stress. 
OK, All right. 

1164
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,080
Love you. 
Bye. 

1165
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,440
That was a good phone. 
A friend. 

1166
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,640
Yeah, it was. 
It was, it was very, it was very

1167
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,000
much like that. 
Anti stress so. 

1168
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,360
I think, I think and you might 
want to do the same with Selena.

1169
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,760
I want to drag mesh on at some 
point and do and do a podcast 

1170
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,200
just. 
I think it'd be nice just to get

1171
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,360
the the. 
Other side. 

1172
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,880
Get the other side. 
Yeah, get the other side and 

1173
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,400
almost. 
Where they tell everybody that 

1174
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,560
what we've said is completely 
wrong. 

1175
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,920
Complete horseshit. 
He didn't do this, he wasn't 

1176
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,200
there when I went, when I needed
him, but probably quite good. 

1177
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,840
I reckon I'll just talk to 
Mitch. 

1178
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,640
I reckon I'll learn a lot just 
having an open. 

1179
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,400
Yeah, it'd be really insightful.
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it'd be good, 

1180
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:46,600
yeah. 
But it'd. 

1181
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,280
Be like one of those episodes of
Married at First Sight where the

1182
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,240
truth comes out. 
You're like, oh shit. 

1183
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:59,600
So that was 21. #2120. 22 We, we
will yeah, we'll get back up to 

1184
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,520
date. 
It's just been so busy. 

1185
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,520
Q4 Oh my God, mental. 
But you know, Christmas has come

1186
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,800
in and that's why. 
Yep. 

1187
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,480
All right, mate. 
Thank you very much. 

1188
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:10,400
No problem at all. 
What? 

1189
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,680
Time is it, It's 7:15. 
That's good. 

1190
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,600
Thank you guys. 
Again, just thanks for all your 

1191
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,360
support and all your messages 
and we will get back to you as 

1192
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,160
quick as we can. 
It's just just life gets in the 

1193
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,200
way sometimes. 
So if you send us a message and 

1194
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,520
we don't reply straight away, 
please don't think we're 

1195
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,640
ignoring you. 
We'll just fly. 

1196
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,720
But we love you all and we thank
you very much. 

1197
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,400
Have a great one, see you soon. 
Bye. 

1198
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:33,600
Bye.