1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:01,440 Good and tug. Good. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,840 And tug Gates. Yeah, listen, we haven't. 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,440 Done this in ages. We haven't, have we? 4 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,119 We haven't. What's this, Episode 33? 5 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,520 Yeah, we're back, 33. We're back and. 6 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,200 We're not because. We had George Gould didn't. 7 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,280 We yeah, we had George Gould. What did we do before that? 8 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,960 I can't remember. It's all white paper, wasn't it? 9 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,960 Mate, I'll be honest, I mean, you've said it before, I'm kind 10 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,200 of glad to see the back of the white paper, just for a little. 11 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,640 Bit for a little bit. It's been draining. 12 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,440 Yeah, and again, because we're still trying to muddle through 13 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,200 and understand it, Yeah, Rachel is still killing it. 14 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,200 Yeah, absolutely. She understands it. 15 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,280 I've been trying to signpost people here on the Facebook 16 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,440 group. We've got a Facebook group now. 17 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,560 By the way, guys, it's free. Join there. 18 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,520 I know the Discord is sometimes a little bit like, what's 19 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,440 Discord? Yeah, Facebook's nice and easy 20 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,280 click. They're in happy days. 21 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,400 But yeah, Rachel's been doing a lot, so I'm trying to signpost. 22 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,960 Send the lights. Yep, send the lights. 23 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,120 Exactly. They asked me a question and I'm 24 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:55,440 like, I don't fucking know, Rachel. 25 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,760 Yeah, every day. She's she's just a phenomenal 26 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,040 font of knowledge. She is, yeah. 27 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,680 Yeah, she's finger on the pulse. And all that. 28 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,080 Absolutely. Last week was obviously the the 29 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,320 episode with Mish. Yep, which has gone down very, 30 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:12,200 very well. Yeah, it was a bit impromptu to 31 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,880 be on what you can tell because we just sat in the fucking 32 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,560 lounge. But yeah, it was nice. 33 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,280 It was, it was kind of conversations we haven't had 34 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,920 properly even on the different stuff like our relationship and 35 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,160 things like that, Like we, we just wouldn't talk about it on a 36 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,920 day-to-day. Basis when you keep it opposed, 37 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:29,800 yeah, yeah, do you. Remember that time they slept on 38 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,160 the floor? You just wouldn't. 39 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,280 So it was kind of cool to get that stuff out. 40 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,440 And I think what what was nice is other people have gone again, 41 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,200 a little bit like when me and you talk, people have gone. 42 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,640 Oh my God, good. It's not only us. 43 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,120 It's not just you. No, no, no. 44 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,760 Well, I'm just sleeping on the sofa. 45 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,040 Yeah, yeah. That's, that's normal. 46 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,000 There's like there's the relationships that that kind of 47 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,360 breakdown entirely or are you lucky enough to scrape through? 48 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,200 You know it. It wasn't necessarily you. 49 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,920 You got through a piece of piss, no. 50 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,120 It could have been, it's it's hard, like I'm not going to go 51 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,560 into too much details, but obviously those closest to me 52 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,240 know that Selena and my relationship broke down in 53 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,360 August last year. Sure. 54 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,320 So we've just been kind of Co parenting and muddling through 55 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,880 it. So it does happen, doesn't it? 56 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,400 So yeah, yeah, it's one of those. 57 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,240 Yeah, you said, didn't you? Like we've become one of the 58 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,360 statistics. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, 59 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,880 absolutely. Yeah, it's, it's, it's rough in 60 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:18,560 it. It's awful. 61 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,680 It's tough in it. Like with you, I'm not going to 62 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:26,080 talk too much about it, but like, if you've got a family 63 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,600 unit and it's a struggle. Yeah. 64 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:30,280 Because it's a struggle anyway, because you've got your, you 65 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,640 know, you've got your kid with all these other needs, the 66 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:37,800 stress that puts on the relationship and then just just 67 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,280 poof like that. It's just burns. 68 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,120 And then you didn't see that coming. 69 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,880 And all of a sudden you're then trying to rethink. 70 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,920 OK, back in your head and everything else. 71 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:47,360 What do we do now? Right, I've now got to find a 72 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,600 new direction. And this is it. 73 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:49,960 Yeah. And then put arrangements in 74 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,600 place for obviously Lydia, for for both of us to carry on Co 75 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,200 parenting effectively. So yeah, yeah, just a a new 76 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,400 journey, a new new way of looking at things. 77 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,960 But yeah, down the line, I'm sure there's plenty of parents. 78 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,960 I can relate to that as well. We'll be able to cover both 79 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,080 angles now. Yeah, Which is more content, 80 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,000 more content. Something good would come out. 81 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,520 Come on, let's go, let's go. Yeah, So yes, I'm back this 82 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,000 week. So obviously you had the 83 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,600 pleasure of a better looking Co host last week. 84 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,400 So. We did have a, we did have a 85 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,320 comment today actually, someone said, are you not doing the 86 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,040 podcasts with the other man anymore? 87 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,080 He's back today, actually, he's. Loved to be known as the other 88 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,000 Man. Why? 89 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,440 I can't tell why we didn't do one last week. 90 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,720 I think life just got in the way and and we had that, we had that 91 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,400 that podcast, we admission the bag. 92 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,680 So we just took a break off, didn't we? 93 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Yeah, absolutely. But I'm glad to have you back, 94 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,320 Sir. Thank you very much. 95 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,040 Good to be back. Good to be back. 96 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:44,680 Part of the autism diecast again. 97 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,400 Yeah, exactly. Well, it is called the diecast. 98 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,840 To be fair, anything happened with you the last couple of 99 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,680 weeks? Oh, goodness me, it's just been 100 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,480 full on at work. Yeah, yeah. 101 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,040 Oh yeah, yeah, you gave. You had a bit of a. 102 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,040 Mental week, it's been full on. So yeah, a lot to get through 103 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,200 and yeah, got a bit of annual leave coming up, but obviously 104 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,000 whenever you go and you leave, work just ramps up right before 105 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,440 it. And then, yeah, you've got to do 106 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,520 your out of office, get all the bits and bobs in there for 107 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,399 everybody else to handle whilst you're away in that list. 108 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:17,560 It's just getting bigger and bigger. 109 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,040 So yeah, yeah. And Lydia's all just Lydia in. 110 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:25,200 Lydia is Lydia ING at the moment, Yeah, absolutely. 111 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,240 So yeah, still doing what she does best. 112 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,080 Still going well at school, which is good. 113 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,880 So yeah, awesome. Still going well. 114 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,560 And Thomas? Yeah, fine mate, absolutely 115 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,920 fine. Obviously half term at the 116 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,200 minute he's he's chilling at home. 117 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,360 Actually today he's just, we thought we kind of thought he 118 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,760 said at the weekend. We actually, we intentionally 119 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,240 tried to stay at home Saturday and Sunday in because we were 120 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,840 like he's going to want to go out Monday, today's Monday and 121 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:56,720 he hasn't bothered again. It's like I was staying. 122 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,480 So now, miss, she's like, no, I want to leave last night, 123 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,600 please. But you know, he's got a few 124 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,440 more days and he's two weeks, isn't it, that he's done? 125 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,080 Two weeks, yeah. Two weeks, yeah. 126 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,440 Bank holiday Friday as well. Is, yeah. 127 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:08,400 Friday. Monday. 128 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,400 Good Friday I. Forget every year, it's a long 129 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:15,040 weekend, hell of a long weekend. So we had and this is something 130 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,040 I'd never really thought about. Well, I thought about it, but I 131 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,160 didn't know about is there was a petition going around and 132 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,520 somebody messaged about it. So they sent a petition in this 133 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,960 week and, and when I read it, I was like, this can't, this can't 134 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,200 be right now. Loads of loads of people 135 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,680 listening to this. They're going to be like, yeah, 136 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,040 that's absolutely right. I looked it up. 137 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,800 And it's so when Thomas is going to turn 18 and Lydia turns 18, 138 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,960 we basically stop being parents in the eyes of the law. 139 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,200 And you have to apply to the court and pay for permission to 140 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,680 keep doing what you've been doing their entire life. 141 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,560 So. Is that because they're 18? 142 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,400 They're officially adults, yeah. So it it makes sense. 143 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,920 So, Lydia. Can go out drink yeah and. 144 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,800 Now you could be like, no you can't. 145 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,120 No, you can't. You're staying here. 146 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:00,960 And I didn't. I always, I always kind of 147 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,680 considered like what happens? But I never considered that you 148 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:06,680 they're an adult. Yeah, you will. 149 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,040 You'll have to I. Suppose it's not coming our 150 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,560 radar because our kids are relatively young still so we're 151 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,840 in in classic autism parents. Yeah, we look to the future, but 152 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:19,480 we're very much trying to take day as it comes, week as it 153 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,120 comes. We're not kind of thinking 154 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,360 what's happening in kind of 10/12/13 years time, are we so. 155 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,720 No, I've never had anyone mention it. 156 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,400 I've never had anybody that has gone through I. 157 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,840 Didn't realise you could pay just to carry on, yeah. 158 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,240 Yeah, it's called deputyship. OK. 159 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,080 You apply for it. So you apply to something called 160 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,400 a Court of Protection. There are two types, one's for 161 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:49,600 money and one's for welfare. OK, it costs £421.00 to apply. 162 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:53,440 OK, so when our kids are 18, that'll probably be about 4 1/2 163 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,040 grand. Yeah, that's a good point with. 164 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,840 Inflation's going, yeah. Yeah, and it takes four months. 165 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,360 And during that social services, they get told that you've 166 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,920 applied and that they they can then oppose it. 167 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,760 And they could say, no, actually we think someone else should 168 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,040 make those decisions about your child. 169 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,640 And OK, I mean, I'm sure they don't in most cases, Yeah. 170 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,240 But yeah, it's just the thing I'd never. 171 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,640 It's just a hurdle I'd never considered. 172 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,920 So this is like, I don't know, this is America. 173 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,960 It's like power of attorney, you're you're in charge of their 174 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,680 well-being and how their finances are. 175 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,560 Yeah. So they don't, I don't know, get 176 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,760 taken advantage of or things like this take place. 177 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,440 I mean I get I get why it exists but actually the idea of paying 178 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:41,400 420 odd quid for it then again is that oh each one of them 179 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,760 costs £421.00 so there's 2 so 1's for money and the other 180 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,200 one's for welfare and health decisions. 181 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,480 So you're looking at best part of a grant. 182 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,560 So yeah, you're paying like like £850. 183 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,680 OK, and that gives you the control. 184 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,400 Yeah, And if you don't apply for it, you've got no legal 185 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,840 standing, so you can't touch bank accounts. 186 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,680 Hospitals won't listen to you. Yeah, wow. 187 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,880 I know. And this, this petition 188 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,480 essentially I think is around like doing something about that, 189 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,240 whether it's to do with reducing the funds. 190 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,200 I didn't actually look that much into the petition itself. 191 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:15,440 I just saw the headline and I was like, Nah. 192 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,080 So that can't be true. Yeah. 193 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,720 And I don't know how I feel about it. 194 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:27,560 I, I, I like that they're recognised as just being an 195 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,040 adult, not an autistic adult or, you know, an adult with 196 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,400 additional needs. I like that they're, you're 18, 197 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,080 you're an adult now. I like that. 198 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,159 And I like that you don't just automatically get to make 199 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:39,200 decisions for them. I like that because it seems an 200 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,240 individual. Yeah. 201 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,600 So there's a process you have to go through which I get makes 202 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,920 sense, that's important. And I suppose it's a stop. 203 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,080 Abuse, essentially. Yeah, abuse of the system or 204 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,000 people taking advantage, especially if there's money 205 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,200 concerned and there's there's kind of pit payments and 206 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,360 everything else going into their accounts that somebody's not 207 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:59,680 just kind of piggybacking on the back of that and just abusing it 208 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,280 and taking their their finances. Yeah. 209 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,680 Oh, here we go. Here's the petition. 210 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:06,320 So petitions. It's on the parliamentary 211 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,080 website. If capacity assessment between 212 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,360 16 and 18 confirms your child permanently lacks capacity, 213 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,520 parental responsibility should just carry on. 214 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,760 No court, no 421 LB and no four month wait. 215 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,720 You just carry on doing what you're doing. 216 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,360 Government's response said we need the court process to 217 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,880 protect vulnerable adults, which is kind of what you were saying 218 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,760 then, yeah. Well, they would be vulnerable 219 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,400 adults. Absolutely would be, yeah. 220 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,480 I think that the financial side is a bit and and the waiting 221 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,600 around. So that that must mean that 222 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,920 there's a four month gap. When what they are. 223 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:47,160 When they are adults, when they're they're adults And can 224 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,280 you apply before they're 18 maybe, I don't know. 225 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,400 That's really interesting. Very interesting. 226 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:54,920 So yeah, I just thought that was. 227 00:09:55,560 --> 00:10:00,680 EHCPS carry on until they're into their 20s I believe. 228 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:09,760 Yes, yes they do. The parent who's been of a No, 229 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,640 it doesn't say. Yeah, I'll have to look at that. 230 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,760 But yeah, I just thought that was quite an interesting little. 231 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,760 Yeah. But maybe some parents that have 232 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,160 gone through that can give us a bit of insight. 233 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:20,920 Actually, yeah. When? 234 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,760 We, I'm going to split these up into reels and everything else 235 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,360 like that. So it'd be interesting to get 236 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,040 some some other parents insight into that. 237 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,880 Yeah, I'm just going off some like cursory digging I just did. 238 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,400 But yeah, Mad 1 isn't it? How's the How's that marathon 239 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,560 running going? Yeah, yeah. 240 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:38,360 I'm really looking forward to it. 241 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,200 Really, really looking. Forward started that. 242 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,120 I thought you were being serious. 243 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,400 No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. 244 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:50,160 I'm just it's only this week that I can stand up straight and 245 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,600 not hurt, so my back's been in bits. 246 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,920 But again, that doesn't mean just this week you've just 247 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,200 started feeling better, so that means you should go for a run. 248 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,760 You probably. Yeah, I'm really, I'm really 249 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,280 conscious of not kind of just slipping the trainers on and 250 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,680 going for one and buggering it up for another couple of weeks 251 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:13,080 because we've got what, 3 1/2 weeks until until the marathon? 252 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,160 And the furthest I've run so far is about 5K. 253 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,120 And then and then Sean messages and goes, how's the running 254 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,280 going, lads? Yeah, it's going great, Sean. 255 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,880 It's. Going great, it's going really. 256 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,640 I had to look at the London Marathon thing and I think 257 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,680 you've got about 6 hours before the roads open again. 258 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,200 Is it? Or something along those lines 259 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,400 there so. You've got to get it done. 260 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,080 Or are you? Going to run over, yeah, pretty 261 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,520 much, which is which is good kind of motivation to carry on 262 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,520 running if you've got like a London cabbie behind you, yeah, 263 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,000 going at it, but. Six hours, yeah, yeah, OK, it's. 264 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,560 Something like 6 or 7 hours. So I I, it's going to be such a 265 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:53,400 mixture of like, I had a look, I said a ChatGPT. 266 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,640 I've done no bloody training for this because of XYZ. 267 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,640 Yeah. Can I still do it? 268 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,560 And it's like, yeah, you can still do. 269 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,760 It is always a little bit agreeable. 270 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,640 You'll be fine. It's it's you'll be no worries 271 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,320 whatsoever. But I think you were just saying 272 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,560 do something like you, you from the the get go, run 4 minutes, 273 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:14,640 walk one minute, run 4 minutes, walk one minute. 274 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,000 Keep that consistent throughout the whole thing. 275 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,000 So yeah, that's, that's going to be my plan. 276 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,280 It's just literally something to start. 277 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,920 I'm going to run, stop, walk, run, stop, walk and just keep 278 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,560 that going and hope that I can make it across. 279 00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:30,760 Chat would have got that from somewhere. 280 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,160 It must have worked for somebody at some point. 281 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,120 So yeah, maybe it was from Paula Rackriff. 282 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,680 Maybe. Maybe that's what she was doing. 283 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,600 Run, have a poo. Run I. 284 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,600 Forgot about. That oh, I. 285 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,560 Shouldn't laugh. No, but. 286 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,840 She's still carried on running. She did, and she'd bloody smash 287 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,520 it. Yeah, but how are you looking 288 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,880 forward to it? I'm not a training going. 289 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,760 Yeah. Yeah, try and do the mate I'm 290 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,600 doing. I'm doing three runs a week. 291 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:02,720 Yeah, 25KS and A10 Ki. Say A10 Ki did 3K on Saturday. 292 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,720 I tried to do a 10 and I got pins and needles in my left 293 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,800 foot, I think. I think it was something after I 294 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,000 was like, Oh no, I'm injured, I'm injured. 295 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,600 And I tried to ChatGPT. I was like pins enough. 296 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,880 Like I've always run like I've got pins and needles in my foot 297 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,160 and it was like, you probably just tied your laces too tight. 298 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,440 I was like, they were quite tight, simple as that. 299 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,600 I could just loosen my laces up, but I'm really like the 300 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,120 atmosphere is supposed to be like the atmosphere of Paris. 301 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,960 Half was amazing. That was really good. 302 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,360 Yeah, I. Imagine London is like it's. 303 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,200 Gonna be that times 10 exactly, yeah. 304 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,040 Times 10, yeah. I think once you get is it to 305 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:33,920 Tower Bridge? Yeah. 306 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,840 I think it just goes absolutely nuts there, isn't it? 307 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,760 So if I can make it to Tower Bridge, that would be good, 308 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:39,080 yeah. Right. 309 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,000 Even if you walk in. Yeah, they've just got this 310 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,400 image of the guy carrying that fridge freezer just overtaking 311 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,480 me. Yeah, yeah, That's pretty epic, 312 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:47,760 isn't it? Yeah, that's pretty epic. 313 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,520 Well, some firefighter and full equipment carrying everything 314 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,360 just lapping me that. Would be so demoralising. 315 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,000 Yeah, it's running past with a fridge freezer on his back. 316 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,360 Yeah, that's just me. Trying to encourage you. 317 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,800 Come on mate, you can do it. You can do it. 318 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,480 Fuck off. Or he just picks me up and just 319 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,000 carries on running and he. Puts you in the fridge freezer. 320 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,320 That'd be amazing. It'll be amazing. 321 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,240 But no, it's good. We're you know, the main thing 322 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,200 is that we're raising, we're raising what we know close to 323 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,360 7000, something like that in in funds for ambitious about 324 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,280 autism. So again, thank you very much to 325 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,560 everybody that has taken the time to to donate to us and and 326 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,240 wish as well. But yeah, I think the podcast 327 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,920 after we do the London Marathon, it'll be very interesting. 328 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,120 Yeah, it'd be interesting, yeah. It'd be interesting. 329 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,240 I can hopefully show you all the toenails that have fallen off 6 330 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,280 times. 6559 lbs. Brilliant. 331 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,000 Thank you very much. 390 of you. Yeah, it's absolutely superb. 332 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,640 Very generous, thank you, thank you, thank you. 333 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,600 And actually kind of, I think once we kind of hammered home 334 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,600 that the whole if it's 50P, if it's a quid, if it's £2, 335 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,280 whatever, that I think actually people start to understand it 336 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,960 wasn't about the amount. No. 337 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,480 Absolutely. Just loads more of those little 338 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,600 ones came in. Yeah, loads of those come in and 339 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:57,920 very quickly. Do you know what those those 340 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,040 people that were donating like like pound 2 lbs? 341 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,800 Yeah, it just added up so quickly and it took us over our 342 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,760 £5000 limit. Obviously, a couple of 343 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,720 individuals just dropped some very. 344 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,720 Crazy. They dropped some big numbers in 345 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,640 there. We're like internally grateful 346 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,000 for them, for those people as well. 347 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,040 But it's going to be good. It's going to be good. 348 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:18,760 It's. Going to be good. 349 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,280 I remember the Paris one they had like the Super Mario like 350 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,600 mushrooms. Didn't they like power boosts 351 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:24,760 and stuff like? That just tap those. 352 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,560 Yeah, tap them. That works. 353 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,640 Placebo, I'm sure. I don't think there's actually 354 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,840 anything about the cardboard mushroom. 355 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,360 No, I don't think there is anything about the cardboard 356 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,680 mushroom that does make you run faster. 357 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,480 But it seemed to work. It seemed to work. 358 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,800 I still can't get out of my head the I'd like with Paris 359 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,760 finishing that half marathon, us having a conversation going. 360 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,360 Could you imagine running that again? 361 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,760 Oh mate, And this is effectively what we've got to. 362 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Do first thing I did when I ran over that finish line was go. 363 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,320 How do people do that twice? No. 364 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,760 Like how did you twice think of how bad our legs were and how 365 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,600 bad your toes were bleeding weren't? 366 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:59,360 They. Yeah, they they. 367 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,800 Were think how bad they'd be doing that twice. 368 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,000 I can't. I can't. 369 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,520 I just remember finishing sitting in a doorway eating all 370 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,400 the goodies that we were given and then I just couldn't get up. 371 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,120 I was walking around like I was standing up eating all that 372 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,120 stuff that the game was like loads of food and yoghurts and 373 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,080 all sorts of stuff just to get your energy and your carbs back 374 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,640 up. I was thinking, I feel all 375 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,280 right. I mean, I'm tired. 376 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,560 I feel all right. That's because I hadn't sat 377 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,840 down. I was walking around eating this 378 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,320 food. But then when we did stop, we 379 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,760 couldn't get up the stairs. Like couldn't get up the stairs, 380 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,000 couldn't get down the stairs. I fell asleep in the shower, 381 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,840 just sat in the shower, just in a big heap. 382 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,800 Just. Yeah, it's going to be double 383 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,720 that. And Sean, who's been absolutely 384 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,200 smashing it. I've got to be honest. 385 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,760 You all right? We talk about neurodivergence. 386 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,480 I have a feeling this might be a hyper focus for you. 387 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,160 You don't come across as ADHD or autistic but this does feel like 388 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,440 a hyper focus this guy and it's definitely gone in your favour 389 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,760 because he's killing it. Is he? 390 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,360 Has he already done half marathons? 391 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:57,440 He's he's smashing half marathons. 392 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,720 He's. Just doing half marathons around 393 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,400 the town just for fun. Yeah, just for fun. 394 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,160 Oh, I've got a spare an hour. And he wasn't a runner before. 395 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,480 Before 0 runner, I think this is this is like his proper. 396 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,359 Running. Yeah, and he's just smashing 397 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,240 half marathons just two and half, just around the local 398 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,960 around the town. London landmarks and I'll just 399 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,319 do a quick 10K. Oh, there's never a personal 400 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:16,760 best. I mean you're like oh just 401 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,359 managed to do 5 jeez fuck it's. Going to be hard. 402 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,720 It's going to be really bad. It's going to be embarrassing. 403 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,920 Yeah, Yeah, it's going. To But there's going to be a lot 404 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,079 of people in exactly the same situation going how did we get 405 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,560 to do the London Marathon? And they won't do any training. 406 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,840 Yeah. And there's going to be people 407 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,120 dressed up as chickens and all. Sorts. 408 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:38,840 Oh, it's going to be all sorts. Isn't there going to be so many 409 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,360 different costumes that make us feel bad? 410 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:42,920 Yeah, yeah, because they're going to go faster. 411 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,640 Than we are, yeah, yeah, absolutely. 412 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,320 Yeah, I know. But it it'll be good and I think 413 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,520 once we've done the London Marathon I've made a promise to 414 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,560 myself I'm never doing 1 again so. 415 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,600 I don't know. I I there was rumours of 416 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,200 something happening in Cyprus. Iron apple, Iron apple the half. 417 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,840 Iron Apple half marathon We're we're all about doing it next 418 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,480 year. Got a few of us dads together, 419 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,280 just purely long weekend. It's just about the run. 420 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:11,200 It just happens. It just. 421 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:16,960 Happens to be an iron apple and it's just taken place on Sunday 422 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,880 a few days ago when they did the well yesterday is when they did 423 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:27,240 the this year's half marathon. It's just like bizarrely in in 424 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,280 IA, Napa and Famagusta area of Cyprus. 425 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,080 Every year they have this massive half marathon that takes 426 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,600 place and you can do like 10 KS and five KS as well, but there's 427 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:40,480 a half marathon that takes place and it is solely devoted to 428 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,520 autism. Is it? 429 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,880 I didn't know that. There's no other charities. 430 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,880 It is simply devoted directly for autism. 431 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,800 That's it. So everybody. 432 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,120 Wants it? How is fundraising spreading? 433 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:55,880 Awareness is affected. Has family members that are 434 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,280 autistic, neurodiverse, and that is the entire marathon and it's 435 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,520 going it's getting bigger and bigger every. 436 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,760 Year. How do you access it then? 437 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,720 I mean, obviously the London Marathon's really tough to get 438 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,040 it to get into. Simply you just lock up, just 439 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,000 Google it, get an entry place. It's, it's dead simple to get 440 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,480 through. Oh, we've got, I've been in 441 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,760 touch with the provider about it and they're keen to, to have 442 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,960 this kind of podcast and stuff. Yeah, absolutely. 443 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,960 Spread awareness. I think the the president of 444 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,160 Cyprus got involved in the one yesterday, right? 445 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:26,520 I come here. If you ran it, I thought you 446 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,480 were. Going to say the president 447 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,840 obviously sent us an e-mail. No, no, no. 448 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,320 Not yet. He might do after this, but I 449 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,320 think he got involved as well and they've just gone right. 450 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,400 He's something like 1.5 or 1.8 million euros. 451 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,960 We're going to build a dedicated autism centre in this part of 452 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,760 Cyprus, bloody hell. And we're going to have it 453 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,880 completed in under a year. That's amazing. 454 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,120 It's just like, wow. That's cool, and that's your 455 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:53,000 knack of the words. It's where mums from, yeah, mums 456 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,480 from Cyprus, so it's got a bit of a personal touch there as 457 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,200 well. But I think it'd be great just 458 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,080 to get a group of us out there, have a long weekend, run it. 459 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,560 If anyone's keen, oh imagine if we've got loads of us over 460 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,960 there, like not just the lads we know, but just oh, I'd be sick. 461 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,280 Well, even mums as well, yeah. Anybody, anybody, anybody. 462 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,880 That'd be so good. Anybody that can come across 463 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,120 then, you know, we try and get a group of us together, that'd be 464 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:17,760 superb and then have a couple of sherbets in, well, just NATA 465 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,920 we're. Just going for a run, aren't we? 466 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,400 We not. Oh yeah, sorry, we'll cut that 467 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:21,960 bit out. We're not having any drinks or 468 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,840 any fun whatsoever. Afterwards, I Napa is not about 469 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,040 drinking. No, it's not. 470 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,000 I say I, you say Napa. I Nappa used to be like when we 471 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,400 were like 2000s. That was like the place to go, 472 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,320 wasn't it? That's when Craig David and 473 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,120 Artful Dodger and all the garage team was coming. 474 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,240 I remember going out there, I would have been about 17 at the 475 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,680 time and just being in these clubs, just full of lads from 476 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,840 London enjoying the music and everything else like that. 477 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,720 There's skinny little 17 year old me going. 478 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:50,040 I've never been, never been. I went to my first holiday was 479 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:52,280 lads holiday was in Turkey, in Bodrum. 480 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,360 And I mean, it was a bit of a dive. 481 00:20:58,120 --> 00:20:59,640 Like the power kept going out randomly. 482 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,200 Like we kept trying to what there was a, there was a place 483 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,440 called the, it was called the golden plate, but we always 484 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,280 wanted to go to this. It's called the Sensi bar. 485 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,000 And it was the last bar at the end. 486 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,320 And it was just, we just liked it there. 487 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,320 But they try and catch you to get you to come in. 488 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,560 And these guys every time, oh, we were like 1718 or whatever, 489 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,760 maybe 19. And they just, we didn't have 490 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,040 the willpower to be like, no, we'd just go in. 491 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,000 Are they free shots? Free calm and come in, come in, 492 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,520 come in. And. 493 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,720 And one night the power went out and we were like, wicked, they 494 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,240 won't be able to see us. So we were just like walking 495 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,320 down the strip. Fucking lights come out like 496 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,800 mag, like, like proper big beaming lights right in our 497 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,800 faces. So all we hear is Gaz, Gaz, Ian, 498 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,840 come on, come in, come in. We were like, Nah, what? 499 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,040 So they still got us even though it's pitch black. 500 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,480 But I've only ever been, I've only ever been on like a lad's 501 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:57,520 holiday there and Ibiza. Yeah, that's it, Two holidays 502 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,400 notes written. Yeah, it was a stag, dude, so it 503 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,560 still counts. Stag do it. 504 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,880 Yeah. And that was very recently. 505 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,600 But yeah, yeah, I didn't get to do all the holidays at most. 506 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,440 No, I didn't do. I didn't do much of those 507 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,120 either. Did you not? 508 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:08,600 No. No, no. 509 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,520 No, no, absolutely not. I think the place I got to was 510 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,000 kind of stag dudes, where you go away for a long weekend and you 511 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,960 drink so much alcohol that you come back and you actually 512 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,320 genuinely think you are alcoholic. 513 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:21,640 Yeah, because you just start getting withdrawal symptoms. 514 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,960 That's my last thing to remember. 515 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,720 I think that was my brother in law's stag do. 516 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,600 I was getting I get withdrawal symptoms just from Ibiza. 517 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,520 Like I enjoyed Ibiza so much. When I got back I was like, 518 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,760 really sad. Yeah, yeah. 519 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,240 But So what? Sad coming back to the UK. 520 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,480 What I know, yeah, it was at the time I was having a lot of stuff 521 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,040 with, with my, my previous partner custody battles and 522 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,560 stuff like that with my, with my eldest. 523 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,360 So I think I was it was an escapism from that as well, so. 524 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,440 Switch off for a bit. Yeah, it was like, oh God, back 525 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,080 to the real world. It was probably a little bit 526 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,960 but. Yeah, no, it'd be good, I think. 527 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:02,080 I think that'll be the furthest I run in the future would be 1/2 528 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,960 marathon out of Bush. Yeah, I just. 529 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,040 Yeah, I can't. I know I've done. 530 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,840 I've done a few half marathons now and I've always said at the 531 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,280 end of it, that's my last one, Yeah. 532 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,200 And then a couple of days later I'm like, oh, let's book 533 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:13,840 another. Yeah, yeah. 534 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,240 I don't think I'm going to be feeling the same way with the 535 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,000 London Marathon. This is going to be like 536 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,800 seriously debilitating after I think like I couldn't walk for a 537 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,920 while after the half marathon. I'm probably a week. 538 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,840 It took me 6 months for my nail to grow back that. 539 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,240 Was great guys. Like the blood that came through 540 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,880 his sock, It was horrendous. One, it was pretty bad. 541 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,840 We've got to do things with our nipples as well. 542 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,720 What we doing with our nipples and? 543 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,440 You've got to protect them. Like the tape over there, She's 544 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,040 just getting pierced. She's going to do stuff with our 545 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:40,760 nipples. Like what? 546 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,520 Pierce them. I don't have any left after this 547 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,160 London Marathon. It'll be like a Kendall. 548 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:47,480 Have you had your, have they sent your tip? 549 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,440 We're just chatting. Absolutely. 550 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,360 Yeah, absolutely. We haven't caught up for a 551 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:52,280 while. We've not said anything remotely 552 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,080 about autism or we have a little bit, but have they have they 553 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,920 sent you the T-shirts? The last two, I've got the 554 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:57,680 T-shirts. Yeah, I. 555 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,680 Really like the ones we got from the Paris one, yeah. 556 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,600 You've got a vest and AT shirt. No, I just got a vest I think. 557 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,880 I've got a vest and AT shirt. But I think isn't some AH, isn't 558 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,840 someone supposed to be sorting this out with some some running 559 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,840 gear for the older? I don't honestly don't know 560 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,640 anymore. I don't know. 561 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,080 I don't know, but that's a nice T-shirt. 562 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:13,360 Thanks man. Thanks. 563 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,200 I like yours too. Oh. 564 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,520 Thank you very much. What did you just say? 565 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,640 Inclusion isn't optional. Inclusion is. 566 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,600 Damn right it's not. Silent isn't. 567 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,360 No, you've got a different. One what's right here? 568 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,440 Silence is an absence. I feel like we're doing. 569 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,320 Have you seen Dude, Where's My Car? 570 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:29,720 Yeah, it's written on the back. What does mine say? 571 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,800 It's. Mine say yeah. 572 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Dude, thanks Charlie. Thank you. 573 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,680 Sorry. Yeah. 574 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,480 Thanks, Charlie. That was. 575 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,680 All sorry you're a spicy in court. 576 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,760 Always appreciate you just sending us free shit every now 577 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,560 and then. Really good quality stuff. 578 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:47,000 Charlie's actually very recently got an actual shop. 579 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,320 She's. Built the building. 580 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,160 At the moment she's absolutely expanding. 581 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,880 And I'm so yeah, you, you'll be able to go out there, order your 582 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,240 stuff. She's not going to stock it all 583 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,560 because cash flow totally understand why you would just 584 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,280 order a shit load of stuff and leave it in there. 585 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,680 But you can just go out there, try some of the clothes on that 586 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,120 she's got the hoodies and all that kind of stuff. 587 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:08,160 Try stuff on get. Them sent to your house. 588 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,760 Get your order in and get them sent to your house. 589 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,920 So that's very cool. Very happy for her doing that. 590 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,880 That's very, very good. Nice mug. 591 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,800 Also also from a certain place also got a mug. 592 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,720 Yeah, got a mug. She does like cups, flasks, you 593 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,160 know, all sorts of stuff. So yeah. 594 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,240 Really, really good. All good. 595 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,800 Well, I think. What just happened because it's, 596 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,880 it's, it's one of those that's been a couple of weeks, isn't 597 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,360 it? I think there's. 598 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,600 We've been just white paper right there, just legislation 599 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,920 all. We've done is talk about the 600 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,800 white paper and then the all we did was talk about what we 601 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,680 thought the white paper was. Going to look like. 602 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,280 Then the leaks about the white paper and then actually get told 603 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,280 by the minister that's not entirely true because some of 604 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,360 the leaks were incorrect. Then we went to the the launch 605 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:54,960 of it and then we went down to see her and try and digest it 606 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,640 all and ask questions from the community. 607 00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,200 So yeah, it's just, it's literally been that it. 608 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,080 Was rough. I mean that that obviously we, 609 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,200 we, we kind of, we had like 10 questions, didn't we? 610 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,400 We had 1010 questions we had. 10 questions, yeah, but we had 1/2 611 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,680 an hour window. Half an hour window and. 612 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,400 We got through 5. And, and the minister gave very 613 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,200 detailed responses, which totally get, but obviously I 614 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,760 just meant we ran out of time, but credit to it, she said. 615 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:27,000 The rest of the questions, you know, you want to send them over 616 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,320 and I want to get them answered. In all honesty, I think I don't 617 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,600 know. I don't mean this from from her 618 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,320 point of view, but I don't think people trust everything that's 619 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,480 being said anyway. No, because even when she did 620 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,480 answer those questions, well, the response was don't believe 621 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,520 it, don't believe it. You know this is wrong or or 622 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,640 they've kind of slipped a bit of a snake around this stuff. 623 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,040 The the the trust is gone, isn't it to a certain? 624 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,080 Degree the trust has gone. So essentially, I don't know 625 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,360 what good it would have been to get all those answered anyway, 626 00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:01,440 not because the minister wasn't being honest, but because even 627 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,680 if she was being honest, people are so sceptical that, you know, 628 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,840 I don't, I don't know. But I, I appreciated her having 629 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,120 us down there. It was very good of her. 630 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,160 And we were more than happy to to have her on. 631 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,800 It's quite nice to see the podcast somewhere else for a 632 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,160 change. But but yeah, it's, it's one of 633 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,480 them. And I do very much feel like if 634 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:27,120 anybody wants to have their say, play it written, Rachel made a 635 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:30,400 point of this. Like make sure you go on the 636 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,840 website and be part of that consultation, because if you 637 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,320 don't do that and then you bitch and moan about how things have 638 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,240 turned out, you, you're in no position to say, well, I tried 639 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,440 to get my voice heard. If you didn't do that and you 640 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,160 don't like how things turn out, it's like it's like not voting 641 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,480 and then moaning about which party it's in a. 100%. 642 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,080 So not that our voices are going to be heard, or I don't, I don't 643 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,120 know, but at least if we try. Do as much as you can to at 644 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:04,200 least do exactly, yeah. MPs like get right to your MP. 645 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,080 Again, I don't know how much that works, but if you don't, 646 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:09,160 try. Yeah, trying to think what else 647 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,080 we we need to discuss really because there's been what has 648 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,320 really pissed people off, however. 649 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,240 How should we discuss what's pissed people off? 650 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,840 Even about how have I pissed people off? 651 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,880 Oh, we know there's a couple of ways, isn't there? 652 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:31,320 That's easy. So I think a few episodes ago we 653 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,200 made a comment or I, you know, between the two of us, we said a 654 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:43,960 lot of people now will vote on a policy that directly effects 655 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,280 them because it's so crazy out there at the moment in politics. 656 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,520 And I think not just in the UK, but it seems to be across 657 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Europe, across America, politics just seems to be absolutely 658 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,640 nuts. And you don't, you don't know 659 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,040 where you stand because it changes day-to-day and and 660 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,160 everything else like that. I think we made a comment that 661 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,480 for me personally and probably for yourself, because the number 662 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,480 one thing, if you were looking at a rap sheet or a manifesto of 663 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,440 policies, I would automatically go to what is SM policy? 664 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,200 What are they going to do over the next 4-5 years that could 665 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,920 affect my child in a negative way, in a positive way? 666 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,920 And that would probably draw my eye to a manifesto. 667 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,840 And obviously if the rest of it's absolute bollocks, I'd 668 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,920 probably go do you know what? I don't believe it. 669 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,360 I'm not going to go there. I'll make an educated decision, 670 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,200 which again has proved really difficult to do in UK politics 671 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,840 at the moment. And I think we said tongue in 672 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,640 cheek and it's just, I want to stress this because I think 99% 673 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,480 of people got that it was tongue in cheek, but there's always 674 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,880 that 1% who are very, very loud. We said something like, do you 675 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,840 know what if a certain party came? 676 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:54,760 Out, I said. Reform. 677 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,640 All right, Gaz said reform, and it was said in tongue in cheek, 678 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,360 right? I'm amazed that we've got to 679 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,120 explain this. But that was kind of the point. 680 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,360 The whole point. Yeah, I used an extreme example 681 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,520 to make the point. Yeah, to highlight the policy. 682 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,280 Like, do you know what? Even if even if the Lib Dems 683 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,640 brought a really good send policy, we know they would. 684 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,320 And that wouldn't that wouldn't be make the point look extreme. 685 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,920 So the whole point was we choose a ridiculous party in that sense 686 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,880 to go. So do you know what? 687 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,280 If they came out with a SEM policy that was cast iron and 688 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,040 was really good, Yeah, you'd probably have a look at it. 689 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:30,840 Yeah. All right. 690 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,480 And that was it. And that was the end of the 691 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,400 conversation. And we thought most people would 692 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,160 actually get that and not go. Do you know what I think most 693 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,640 people did, to be fair? Yeah, I think most people did. 694 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,520 I think Gaz and Andy are going to vote reform. 695 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,080 I think Gaz. And Andy are Nazis. 696 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,040 Yeah, I do. Flipping out. 697 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,280 Luckily no one said that word, but they were probably thinking 698 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:55,440 it and certain group of of people and they weren't even 699 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,800 following us. They weren't even part of the 700 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,000 autism community. No, they just came out and go, 701 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,200 how dare you say that you're going to vote reform? 702 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,360 I was like, well, firstly, it's the UK, you can vote for whoever 703 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,680 you want. I'm not going to judge anybody 704 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,080 for who they vote. You know, they're voting 705 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,360 against. I've got too much shit going on 706 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,920 in my life to go, oh, you can't vote for them, but you must vote 707 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,400 for them. I'll just vote for whoever I 708 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,320 want to, all right? But it was just the fact that we 709 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,280 had to explain it again and again. 710 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,720 I really hate that shit. I really hate that like and I'll 711 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,880 use an example in a minute and I won't mention their name. 712 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,680 They we've obviously got the discord Discord group. 713 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,120 Yep, highly recommend joining it. 714 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,280 We please do chat. We go into the little. 715 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,280 Virtual pub, you can just go in there. 716 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,240 There's different threads and different topics affecting 717 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,760 autistic kids, and you remember those kids. 718 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,400 It's really good. I actually signposted a lot of 719 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,920 people in the Facebook group to there just because it's got that 720 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,840 kind of granularity and it's got more of a community feel. 721 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,400 You can go in there, ask a direct question. 722 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,560 I've got an issue with PDA. I don't know what this means. 723 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,720 Go in there, choose APDA topic thread, go in and ask the 724 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,200 question. And there are loads of parents 725 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,480 that are experiencing and all come and go. 726 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,440 This is the real life, you know, experience. 727 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,680 This is what you need to do. This is a good a resource to 728 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,680 look at. It's fantastic. 729 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,120 Exactly, it's really good. So somebody in there shared a 730 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,280 photo of something within the same community. 731 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,240 That's pretty shocking and shit. Can't remember exactly what it 732 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,160 was but it was a screenshot of their Instagram. 733 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,880 I'm trying to word this so I don't give up who they are just 734 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,360 because I haven't asked them, not because there's anything 735 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,600 wrong with what they've done. And at the top of it, I'm not 736 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,880 even going to mention the politician. 737 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,080 They, they follow a politician. You could see it in the stories 738 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,920 on the, on the Instagram, right? They posted it and then 739 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,400 immediately went, Oh my God. I just need you all to know that 740 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,520 I follow this person because they're my local MP. 741 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,960 I'm not a follower of of this. Particular party. 742 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,200 Personal party and I was like how awful that we're all just 743 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,280 autism parents trying to go on a journey and help each other out 744 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:50,400 and people are still scared to say who they vote for or who 745 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,080 they follow or any whether they're left-leaning or right 746 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,080 leaning. They're scared to say it because 747 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,760 they know, not think, they know that regardless of what we're 748 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,760 all here to do, that people will come at you and attack you. 749 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,360 We need to cancel that. Person, yeah. 750 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,320 And I actually say to it, I said, by the way, she goes, Oh 751 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,520 no, I said why did you feel the need to do that? 752 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,600 She went well, I'm just worried that people are going to get 753 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,880 offended and I'm like, the offence is taken, not given. 754 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,480 Like if somebody gets offended, that's on them. 755 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,920 It's not on you, especially for something like that. 756 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,800 As I say, it's it's taken on giving. 757 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,200 Like do not Honestly, it's awful that people have to be like on 758 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,920 tender hooks all the. Time justify everything I do and 759 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,120 it's a crazy situation that we've got ourselves into. 760 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,120 It's so nuts and and it never used to be like that. 761 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,120 Now it's like it's OK for you to just scream and shout and give 762 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,120 people shit based on politically where they lean and politically 763 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,080 where they lean. Doesn't mean you could have 764 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,560 someone that's and I say right wing and left wing, not far 765 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,040 right and far left. Right. 766 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,760 You can be on the right wing and be a good person and you can be 767 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,400 on the left wing and be a good person. 768 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,000 It's the extremes that are the issue. 769 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,720 It's. It's just even having that word 770 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,960 Wing. Yeah, yeah, I know. 771 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,680 Do you know what I mean it? Shows opposite your opposite 772 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,360 end. Polarised opposite where 773 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,280 historically you can be right, left, centrist, everything else 774 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,920 like that. Yeah, but it's it's very much 775 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,840 been politicised and no sorry, not politicised. 776 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,159 It's obviously political. It's been weaponized, Yes. 777 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,920 It's been weaponized to deliberately count to someone or 778 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,000 just, you know, the idea that you can't sit down on the table 779 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:23,880 like us. Yeah. 780 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,800 And have a conversation. Now, if you go, do you know 781 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,320 what? I'm. 782 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,199 I'm leaning right and I go, I'm leaning left. 783 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:30,920 And although that's the end of the conversation, well, you 784 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,880 obviously you obviously. Must you? 785 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,520 Clearly. You clearly fucking hate your 786 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,800 kids. Yeah, you're clearly a Dick 787 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,080 head. We can't have any conversation 788 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,080 whatsoever. Yeah. 789 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,199 And you just see that kind of chasm getting bigger and bigger. 790 00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:43,480 And it's now, like, people go, no, I can't even, you know, 791 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,360 associate with that person. I can't do that. 792 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,760 And how can you ever get to a common ground again and sit 793 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,360 down, have discussions? Do you know the, the big thing 794 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,040 about it, what I'm seeing is, is obviously there's, there's been 795 00:34:54,040 --> 00:35:00,320 like the use of like words like fascist and Nazi and racist and 796 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,000 all that kind of stuff like. Or even throwing in the the P 797 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,760 word, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 798 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,920 Like if you're if you're, if you're like towards the left, 799 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,960 then the right will shout you're a yeah, exactly. 800 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,600 If you're in the left, you'll shout you're a fascist. 801 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,040 Yeah, it's mental and and there's there's actual meaning 802 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,120 to these words and the more you use them at people where it's 803 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,680 completely irrelevant, like calling someone a fascist for 804 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,360 being on the right. Like do you know what fascism 805 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,720 is? It's it's about controlling 806 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:28,560 speech usually and might not listening to anyone else's 807 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,640 opinion and enforcing your opinion on someone else. 808 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,040 That's a part of what fascism is. 809 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,800 If you're shouting someone and stopping them speaking, by 810 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,920 calling them a fascist, you're doing the thing that you're 811 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,440 accusing them of. So anyway, all these things are 812 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,920 used and they're used so brazenly that they've lost 813 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,680 meaning. So now you've got people on the 814 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,920 right being called racist and they're like, whatever. 815 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,040 Well, this is. It they're like, they don't care 816 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,440 and they don't care because you've used it so much that it's 817 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,880 lost its meaning against people that weren't being racist. 818 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,760 No. Isn't that the real racists and. 819 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,320 And again, like you know the other side, just. 820 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,960 Shown this has gone off topic, I know I. 821 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,280 Don't mind just. You talked about UFOs and and 822 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,040 aliens on one. Episode yeah, I think we did. 823 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:09,280 And again, if you're the other, you know, if you if you lean to 824 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,840 the other side, you know, just shouting communist at somebody 825 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,680 and. Yeah, yeah, if you're on the 826 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,040 right and you're just calling someone on the left a communist 827 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,720 or like or, or Joseph Stalin. And you just got to look back 828 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:24,560 and just go do do you know what? Whether fascism, communism at 829 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,440 the extreme levels that these people are accusing others of 830 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,360 being. Yeah, they resulted in in 831 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,760 horrendous, horrendous crimes against humanity. 832 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,760 The amount of people and this is both sides. 833 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,600 It's not like, yeah, yeah, one side is no, we we know obviously 834 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,280 know, you know what happened in 1940s and everything else like 835 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,360 that. But equally what was going on in 836 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,080 communist Russia and all over the world, the same amount of 837 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,840 death, sometimes more were taking place. 838 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,600 But to start accusing people of being from both sides. 839 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,440 Yeah, yeah, it's. Yeah, and it's normally when 840 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,440 they're just asking questions. Well, this is this is it, yeah, 841 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,800 it's you've all probably seen the reels or videos of, you 842 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,640 know, from from from both sides that go on out there depending 843 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,640 on what your algorithms like, you would have seen both sides. 844 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,080 But it's just a horrendous place to get into. 845 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,120 And then you kind of feel like it has a knock on effect in in 846 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,680 every part of politics. And we, we, you know, you made a 847 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,040 point earlier on that regardless of what Georgia Gould said, 848 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,640 people now have got an opinion as it's going to be absolute 849 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,120 bollocks. I don't trust it. 850 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,520 I don't trust it. And she could have, you know, 851 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,840 again, we don't know until it's actually put in action, but she 852 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,600 could have been literally 100% truthful. 853 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,880 Completely. Truthful, but because there's 854 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,400 that kind. Of like the boy who cried wolf 855 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,840 kind of thing, isn't it? Yes, you know. 856 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,280 So that's that's one thing we have got down a bloody rabbits 857 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,840 more here, but trying to bring it back. 858 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,640 Oh no, that was it. So that's that's what he's kind 859 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,720 of said to to this person. I said like, you don't ever 860 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,480 worry. You don't ever worry in this 861 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,840 group that anyone's going to give you any shit because she 862 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,560 said. I thought you'd kick. 863 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,720 I was like, I was like, mate, it actually kind of works the other 864 00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:56,840 way around. If anyone's going to start 865 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,400 attacking you for for political views, when when you're being 866 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,240 the best parent you can to your autistic child and you're a good 867 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:04,960 part of the community and you're trying to help everyone out. 868 00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:07,040 You're not the one that needs to worry about getting kicked out. 869 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,760 It would be the person that starts attacking you for a 870 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,160 political. Belief 100% and. 871 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,960 That's what we need to be. Most of us are actually. 872 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,880 If some of us are a little bit on the left or a little bit on 873 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,080 the right, most of us are in the centre. 874 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,480 And I'm not just talking about autism parents. 875 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,600 I mean, like everybody, the bulk of people. 876 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,000 I'd like, I'd like to think regardless of what political 877 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,080 persuasion you are, and again, you know, going back to our, we 878 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,600 use the, the orders and community as an example. 879 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,880 I guess that, you know, if somebody came into the Discord 880 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,240 group or messaged us or we put a post up and they were really 881 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,800 struggling with something, I would like to think we wouldn't 882 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,640 go away a minute. Who'd you vote for? 883 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,640 Before I help you, I'd like to think that even if you knew 884 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,200 somebody was leaning one way or another that you would go, do 885 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,320 you know what I can help you out with that because we've got 886 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,120 compassion and we're understanding as to what you're 887 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,720 going through and it's not very, very easy to deal with on the 888 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:55,880 day-to-day basis. So we'll take everything out 889 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,000 there and we do the human side of things and actually try and 890 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,360 being compassionate and help somebody. 891 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,960 I'd like to think that's where the community still, and I got 892 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,320 no reason to say no it isn't because everything I've seen is 893 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,120 really positive. I think the kind of proofing is 894 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,680 in the pudding where everybody gets to know each other's 895 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,200 personalities first. And then if you later down the 896 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,160 line find out their political leanings, it's of a benefit 897 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,560 because you go actually, I know this person is a good person 898 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,000 before I found out the political leaning. 899 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,520 So. So actually, I know their heart 900 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,600 is in the right place. Actually, most people want the 901 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,720 same thing. They've just got different 902 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:28,480 directions to get there. Yeah. 903 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,520 Do you know what I mean? It's kind of a bit like that. 904 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,600 And I think that's what most people. 905 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,880 Are yeah, we all want the best for our children. 906 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,240 Yeah, we literally, we're all here because. 907 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,360 And if reforming at the best sent pop joker. 908 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,680 Again, again, how else have I pissed people off? 909 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,600 I'm. Trying to think of comments I 910 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,760 had that that 1 today. Yes, you did. 911 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,120 Can you? Please don't refer to your 912 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,120 children with I think they them pronouns. 913 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,040 I'll be honest. I don't understand what they 914 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,400 mean by it, but I I don't. I think what I think. 915 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,400 Do you know what? Please hold Andy talk. 916 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,840 Yeah, we're getting more of of I think these sort of comments as 917 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,040 we as the platform gets bigger, which is, you know, it's good to 918 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,160 hear other people's opinions, but great love hearing opinions. 919 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,960 But I think it was a bit of a strange one, this one, because 920 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,960 we do talk about the whole point of this. 921 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,840 We share our experience about our children. 922 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,880 Also you will talk about Thomas, I'll talk about Lydia. 923 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,880 And I think people sometimes will, certain persons wanted to 924 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:39,440 highlight a point that yes, OK. I'm going to read this out OK? 925 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,560 I've not seen this. One without any any I'm just and 926 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,600 people can try to help me understand this right so this 927 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,760 was about what we were talking about so it's one of the ones 928 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,880 with me and mesh OK and the comment was again no so it. 929 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,160 Was you and Mesh in the previous episode talking about Thomas, 930 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,640 your son? OK, yeah. 931 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,840 No, no, just put the context. No hate or anything like that. 932 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:07,520 It was essentially about talking to talking to Thomas and autism 933 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,480 generally. The a lot of these meltdowns can 934 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,520 come from life not meeting expectations. 935 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,960 I'm going to be direct. This is the comment. 936 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,600 I'm going to be direct. Calling your son they in 937 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,680 brackets if they've not chosen this as a pronoun feels 938 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,920 offensive. Especially as an autistic 939 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,160 parent. It can come across as 940 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,800 dehumanising. The autistic community already 941 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,640 struggles with being treated as less individual, so language 942 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:38,280 like that adds to the problem. OK, now I've never called Thomas 943 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,480 by the pro name. They I've called him he and him 944 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,640 because he's a boy. OK, OK, again, if I'm upset 945 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,320 anyone by saying that, like I from ignorance, I don't 946 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,760 understand why, but I understand some people get upset about 947 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,400 pronouns and stuff. Yeah. 948 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:04,760 OK, so so they're saying I called him they and I don't know 949 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,800 if they misheard that, but again, that's kind of a comment 950 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:15,600 that's coming in and. But the only time you would say 951 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,760 they if you were talking about the community. 952 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,480 Yeah, I'd say yeah, I'd say like the thing with the, the, the in 953 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,760 my experience trying to ad Libby, like my experience with 954 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:32,080 autistic, autistic children is for them, they might have more 955 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,960 meltdowns when life doesn't meet expectations. 956 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:39,000 So it might be like a a pluralistic they generalising. 957 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,880 And I guess what they're saying, are you stripping away them as a 958 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,520 human being? Maybe. 959 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:50,280 Referring to them as they as opposed to like they're what, 960 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,400 Substandard? Yeah, I don't know. 961 00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:56,880 Yeah, I don't know. It's. 962 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:57,880 Just. It's just. 963 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,040 So that's the kind that's strange. 964 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,240 Yeah, that's kind of a nerve with somebody. 965 00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:05,120 And you know, we that's, that's fair enough. 966 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,040 Everyone's entitled to their opinions. 967 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,120 That's the beauty of. 100%. And and do air them but. 968 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,600 But we do upset people. We do. 969 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,440 And I, yeah, I mean, we did the Hidden 20% podcast. 970 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,920 Oh, God. And if you, if you get a chance, 971 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,600 go on Hidden 20%. We were the guests of Ben. 972 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:29,720 It was so nice. And it was it's a it's a 973 00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:34,360 beautiful episode and the team heading to 80% when they're 974 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,560 doing the advertising, they took a, a section, put it into kind 975 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,960 of was it called a carousel? So image, we were a little bit 976 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,160 of text on it image, image about the conversation that took 977 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,600 place. And we were mid discussion about 978 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,600 the we want to say kind of the different abilities of of 979 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:59,040 individuals that are autistic that you can have in the 980 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,520 community can be so difficult sometimes with autism because 981 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,040 your your class is kind of autistic, whether you're high 982 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:13,240 functioning or with like our children profoundly autistic 983 00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:14,440 and. Some people aren't liking issues 984 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,360 in the word profane. No, and you know, have a Coke 985 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,960 and a smile. But with our children, they're 986 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,880 in specialist settings, they're non verbal nappies. 987 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,000 You know, they're profoundly autistic. 988 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,760 Yeah. So we're still, everyone's still 989 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,760 grouped as autistic, which is absolutely fine that we have no 990 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,000 opinion on, on, on, on that If you're autistic, you're autistic 991 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,840 regardless of. Highlights how different 992 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,080 everything. And this is the difficulty. 993 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,680 Sometimes you can see with the white paper that in the 994 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,680 mainstream and the same between us, this is a difficulty. 995 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,440 Yeah, yeah. Is that, you know, autism is a, 996 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,120 you know, it covers a lot of people. 997 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,200 We we mentioned the kind of the colour paint card. 998 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,800 Yes, different shades. It's like an infinite. 999 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,360 Version of man. Yeah, yeah. 1000 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,160 So we were talking about the different abilities of people 1001 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,640 who have autism. And we say sometimes we'll hear 1002 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,240 stories of, of like, I know somebody who's autistic. 1003 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,240 They've just completed their law degree. 1004 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,360 I was like, that's fantastic. On the other end, I've got my 1005 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:15,400 daughter, and I said, that's great for you, but to highlight 1006 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,680 her level of autism, you know, she can't still wipe her own 1007 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,240 bum. Yeah, I have to do that at the 1008 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:24,080 age of five and the foreseeable future. 1009 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,200 I'm going to be doing that for a couple of years. 1010 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:26,600 Yeah. OK. 1011 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,760 And that was like, this is the difference that a lot of parents 1012 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,480 will have to deal with. OK. 1013 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,440 Most people understood that. Yeah. 1014 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,480 And a lot of people can relate to. 1015 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,520 That and they understood your intent behind it. 1016 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,680 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, which is the important bit. 1017 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:46,920 Again, we had an individual comment on there who doesn't 1018 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,600 seem to be following any of the platforms. 1019 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,000 That's usually the way it is because they don't know you so. 1020 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,080 Yes, and they didn't have the context of it. 1021 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,320 They don't know what the autism diet cares does and they just 1022 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,400 went. I think that's really wrong that 1023 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,520 you have asked permission of your daughter to even mention 1024 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,960 that. I'm like, well you want me to 1025 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,920 ask my permission of my non verbal global developmental 1026 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,720 delay daughter whether I can talk about her? 1027 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:13,880 Yeah. And it raises the question like, 1028 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,880 you can't. So I mean, the babies are still 1029 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,920 in that piece and have to have their. 1030 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,520 So is there a point where the age comes in? 1031 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,480 Yeah, absolutely should. Like if I said I had to wipe my 1032 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,720 baby's arse, no one's going to go. 1033 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:26,720 Did you ask the baby's permission? 1034 00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:27,680 Did. You ask the baby permission to 1035 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:28,480 do. That to say that. 1036 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,240 Again, it's like the same sort of individuals go we need more 1037 00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:35,360 advocacy. We need more people speaking 1038 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,840 out. And this was an autistic person 1039 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:37,440 that said this. Yeah, I. 1040 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,480 Wasn't yeah, high functioning, Yeah. 1041 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,800 They, they, they work in mental health, I believe. 1042 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,400 So they're high functioning. They've got a job and everything 1043 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,200 else like that. We're laughing because we know. 1044 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,920 We know a bit more, but I tried not. 1045 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,280 We're not gonna. We're not gonna definitely. 1046 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,400 Look, it's not relevant, but we're kind of saying that you 1047 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,400 want advocacy. And what the whole point of this 1048 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,080 is that we went out there. We weren't the same as a lot of 1049 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,240 a lot of kind of advocates before us who were doing 1050 00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:05,920 sterling work. We were just kind of two idiots 1051 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,680 ago. Should we just talk about what 1052 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,000 real life is like? Yeah, Yeah. 1053 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,000 And not just the glossy rainbow part of it, but just actually 1054 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,120 say sometimes it can be really difficult, especially it can be, 1055 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,000 you know what, it can be fucking shit. 1056 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,960 You can sit there like rocking in the car, not wanting to go 1057 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,120 home. You can be desperate after being 1058 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,360 sleep deprived. You can be kind of resentful. 1059 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,560 Everything else, Like we, we talk about absolutely 1060 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,920 everything. And that's why the community's 1061 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,720 growing and that's why people go, do you know what? 1062 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,200 I thought I was alone. I thought was the only person 1063 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,080 experiencing this and I couldn't reach out to anybody. 1064 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,640 Now we've got a community of you know what about 100 and 4000 and 1065 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,360 50,000 people across the platforms which. 1066 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,640 Is in less than a year, which is mental. 1067 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,600 Which is great. Yeah. 1068 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,840 And that's through actually saying it as it is. 1069 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,080 Yeah. And sometimes having that dark 1070 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,120 humour and going, do you know what, fuck it, if I don't laugh 1071 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,280 at this, I'm going to cry. Yeah. 1072 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,160 And then you get again in the same kind of post, people going, 1073 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,600 well, that's typical of people like unit parents. 1074 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,680 Or was it autism? Parents always somehow make it 1075 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:03,960 about themselves. Yeah, Yeah. 1076 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,960 That was it, yeah. And that was the the other one 1077 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,440 you like. It's like, yeah, well, yeah, 1078 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,040 yeah, because it's about our personal experiences as as this 1079 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,920 is about the closing the fucking name Dickhead. 1080 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,520 Yeah, yeah. Autism dad cast. 1081 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,400 Yeah. It's, you know, we're going to 1082 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,200 be talking about it from a dad's perspective. 1083 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,480 I can't talk about it from a child's perspective, no. 1084 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,960 And they can't have a podcast. So we're just trying to raise 1085 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,680 awareness for all the parents and the children. 1086 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,920 We talk about the difficulties the children have, but it's, do 1087 00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:34,680 you know what the most vocal, in fact, yeah, most of the most of 1088 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,040 the grief we get is actually from not just the community, 1089 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,920 from autistic people themselves who are in comparison 1090 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,280 exceptionally high functioning adults. 1091 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,080 And they give us a hard time because they they feel like 1092 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:55,480 we're attacking them as autistic. 1093 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,160 Yeah, because in some sort of weird way we're saying they're 1094 00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,480 not autistic enough. Maybe. 1095 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,720 Yeah, I don't know if it's that at. 1096 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:01,960 All. Yeah, maybe. 1097 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:09,080 It's like, no, you know, what if if you are autistic, 1098 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,960 neurodiverse, you know, it can be whatever. 1099 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:23,400 And you've managed to kind of, I'm say, lead a very successful 1100 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,240 life in the sense that maybe you can live in your own home 1101 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,880 without additional support. You can hold down a job. 1102 00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:35,000 You can have a career, have relationships, have friendship 1103 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,400 groups. Do you know what fucking well 1104 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,400 done because I appreciate from a parent how difficult it is. 1105 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,640 And I would give anything for Lydia to be able to go. 1106 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,480 Do you know what, Lydia? Fast forward 21, she's, she's 1107 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,840 maybe living in an apartment, she's holding down a job, she's 1108 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,320 got friends. I'd I'd fucking give anything 1109 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,440 for that. Yeah, she could jump. 1110 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,280 In anything for that. She could jump into the comments 1111 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,920 on a podcast and start, you know, expressing a feelings that 1112 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,080 would be amazing. I would, I would love. 1113 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,520 It Thomas can do that, yeah. I would love her to live the to 1114 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,600 be able to live the life of that person there. 1115 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:12,440 Yeah, it is. In no way are we saying there's 1116 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,920 a clear divide. You're either profoundly 1117 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,280 autistic or you're not. Or you're all right. 1118 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,240 Or you're sound and. Life, you're not in the club at 1119 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:20,400 all. Life isn't difficult for you? 1120 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,880 Absolutely not. In fact, I think a lot of the 1121 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,600 time that we, when we talk about it, especially where like Send 1122 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,040 between is, for lack of a better term, we actually talk about how 1123 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,960 much more difficult their lives are. 1124 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,840 For the sympathy, you know, that's all we've said for the 1125 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,920 last four months is like, we are fortunate in the sense of the 1126 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,040 white paper because our children are profoundly autistic. 1127 00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:42,640 Yeah. So all we've really gone about 1128 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,400 and talked about is like what happens to those kids that send 1129 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:46,840 between us, the ones that are going to fall through the 1130 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,160 cracks, the ones that are going to be forced into mainstream 1131 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,240 school but are getting the. Correct. 1132 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,280 Yeah, they're going to have assistance and health care. 1133 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,160 Everything put into place to allow them to achieve their full 1134 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,480 potential. And not only the kids, the 1135 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,560 parents are having a harder time, so we've got it easier. 1136 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,760 Well, the parents are having to go to tribunals, fight, 1137 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,880 remortgage homes, everything else like that. 1138 00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:06,960 We, we literally could have gone. 1139 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,680 Do you know what? Our kids are all right. 1140 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:13,040 Fuck a lot of you. In really cold terms, we could 1141 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,320 have done that. Yeah, we are. 1142 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,960 Instead, we've gone. Do you know what? 1143 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,640 We're a community. We all stick together. 1144 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,920 That's why we can do this. Actually, is the only reason I 1145 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,960 personally can do this podcast is because my child is so 1146 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:29,000 autistic that he gets the support that he needs and I can 1147 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,840 find the time to do this because I haven't got a fight at 1148 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,320 tribunals. I haven't got a fight writing 1149 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,600 emails and paperwork every night. 1150 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,920 All the stuff that all these other parents are struggling to 1151 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:37,800 do. I don't have to do that. 1152 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,200 Have you asked Thomas if it's OK to say that he's that autistic? 1153 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,920 And I'm not going to ask him because it's a clear it's. 1154 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,200 A ridiculous comment. That's why we're not we're not 1155 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,120 entertaining ridiculous comments anymore. 1156 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,480 If you want to have a ridiculous comment, do you know what? 1157 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:52,240 Go for it. But. 1158 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:53,440 Yeah, I'm not. I mean this. 1159 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,840 I mean this just because I can't respond to those comments, I 1160 00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,120 just cock because it's just pointless. 1161 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,040 It's pointless what was dropping in all day. 1162 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,920 I will read them because I I'm more than happy to read you I 1163 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,760 think. We had another one going, a 1164 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,240 classic, and it wasn't just aimed at us. 1165 00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:13,120 I think it was aimed at autism parents that have a platform 1166 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,440 where they try and do good was something like, yeah, classic 1167 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,840 autism parents trying to make money off their children. 1168 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:25,000 As I make money, make money. Jesus we're still doing our 9 to 1169 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,080 fives like. Yeah, I'm still working our 1170 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:27,760 tits. Off. 1171 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,280 We're still working. That's why we that's why this 1172 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,800 podcast started at 5:30, because we had to wait till we both 1173 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,360 finish work. Yeah, finish work. 1174 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,360 Yeah, absolutely nuts. And again, it's it's like, do 1175 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,000 you know what you've not even taken the time to research like 1176 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,360 what we do watch the reels watch is going down to try and that 1177 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,800 make a difference the the the amount of emails and and 1178 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,880 messages that we responded to. Can you help with any HCP? 1179 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,080 I'm going through a tribunal. What would you do in this 1180 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,000 situation here? None of that you've just gone. 1181 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,200 Oh, that's really offended me. Yeah, I must write a comment to 1182 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,640 let everybody know how offended I am. 1183 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,920 It's like, you know when someone says I'm going to leave a group 1184 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:04,920 and like, well. Go on. 1185 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:05,760 Go on then. Goodbye. 1186 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,120 You don't need to make an announcement about it, just go 1187 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,600 close the door behind you. But. 1188 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,520 It's not going away. It's this kind of again, it's 1189 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,520 this. I must let everybody know that 1190 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,000 I'm offended. Yeah, no, like, again, if you're 1191 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,600 offended, that's on you. Yeah. 1192 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,160 And you know, if you are, you're, it may offend you. 1193 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,080 And you've got every right to to to feel like that. 1194 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,080 Absolutely. We're going to keep doing what 1195 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,080 we're doing. Absolutely. 1196 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,640 Everyone's got every right to be offended. 1197 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,720 By all means, be offended. But it it's, it's navigating 1198 00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:36,800 into kind of everywhere. We had the other one. 1199 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,920 We had another comment the other day which comes kind of from the 1200 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,840 other side. We've had a few of those where 1201 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,960 autism doesn't exist, it's just bad parenting. 1202 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,680 Those are still. Yeah, they still come about. 1203 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,400 We have one of those from a teacher. 1204 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,560 Yes, we did have one of them from a teacher. 1205 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,760 A mainstream school teacher who just said, I know what it's, I 1206 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,120 know these kids, it doesn't exist. 1207 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,760 It's just purely bad parenting and they're trying to label 1208 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,360 their children. I was like, great, look forward 1209 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,400 to you being trained. I just meant them, innit? 1210 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,160 It's just the ignorance is just absolutely on another level. 1211 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,880 And again, that's a teacher, that's one of these teachers 1212 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,040 that's apparently going to get trained by by 20-30. 1213 00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:11,520 Yeah, it's unreal, mate. It's absolutely not. 1214 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,880 So anything else? I don't think so. 1215 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,520 I think it's good to be back. Yes, it's weird. 1216 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,320 It feels like it's because all it's been is legislation for 1217 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,560 ages. And I get that it's really 1218 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,040 important to everybody, it's important to us. 1219 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,680 But I just started to get a little bit swamped. 1220 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,520 It's hardcore. Yeah, it's just a little. 1221 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,640 Bit. It's I just want to talk to 1222 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:36,120 parents and get some dads on and just talk parenting stuff and 1223 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,720 experiences. It's just like. 1224 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,240 This is well like for credit to Rachel because she is like. 1225 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:42,880 In it. She's in. 1226 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,480 It like Shawshank Redemption tunnelling through shit. 1227 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,160 Yeah, constantly tunnelling through it with no idea where 1228 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,280 it's going to end. Finding something else and 1229 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,040 making everyone aware of it and it's like. 1230 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,880 That's got to be, that's got to take a toll in it if we're we're 1231 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,960 like this after what, since January? 1232 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,240 Yeah, like we've not touched on it, I mean near as much as we. 1233 00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:01,760 Came back from the Christmas podcast, you know, doing the BBC 1234 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,800 sort of stuff and came back and they were straight into this in 1235 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,280 January. So what we've done like close to 1236 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,040 four months of this or three, you know, 3-4 months of this. 1237 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:11,920 Yeah, and yeah. So credit to anyone that's 1238 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,400 living in this cause. Yeah. 1239 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,040 Brutal. Yeah. 1240 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,000 Of course we had to go. We had the Rachel and Haley on, 1241 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:17,880 didn't we? No, Sorry. 1242 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:18,880 Haley and Emil. Yeah. 1243 00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:21,040 Talking about it. Why? 1244 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,120 God, we have. We've been. 1245 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,200 Yeah. So I am going to be glad to see 1246 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,200 the back of it. All right, mate. 1247 00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:28,840 I think that's it. I think that's it. 1248 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,960 I think that's. It if we have a friend that you 1249 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,800 please let us know, that'd be great to. 1250 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,600 We'll read them. We won't reply. 1251 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,680 Seriously. Like if anyone like just drop a 1252 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,760 message, let us know because if we might, we might say 1253 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,080 something. He's actually like, Oh yeah, 1254 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:46,600 maybe that shouldn't have been said. 1255 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:52,040 But feel free, let us know, and we might reply again. 1256 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,680 Please join our Facebook, we've got a Facebook group as well If 1257 00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,240 discord's a bit like what? If not, join the discord, it's 1258 00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:01,840 free. If you want to go a level 1259 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,320 deeper, we've got the stem and whistle where a couple of nights 1260 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,360 a week we all meet up, video chat and just shoot the shit 1261 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,240 with each other and laugh at each other at how shit our weeks 1262 00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:12,080 have been with our children. Yeah, and sometimes we don't 1263 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,000 even talk about our children. Which sometimes we don't. 1264 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,520 Sometimes we don't. Sometimes there was once. 1265 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,840 Conspiracy theories as well. Conspiracy theory night, which I 1266 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,440 missed. Actually I was quite as deep. 1267 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,960 I was gutted about that. That was deep. 1268 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,400 I was going to get a tinfoil hat out. 1269 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,840 Yeah, yeah. Flat, by the way. 1270 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,280 But was it? Was it Emma that was apparently 1271 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,240 a completely blown away? She was like, what? 1272 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,640 And what's really nice is we're building relationships with all 1273 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:32,800 these people, these parents. Yeah. 1274 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,560 Like we're chatting to people every week. 1275 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:35,920 It's it's good. It's good fun. 1276 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,840 You just get to know them and their lives and their. 1277 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:42,280 Kids, corporate wise, we've got a LinkedIn page, yeah as well. 1278 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,320 So if you are on LinkedIn, have a quick look on there, let us 1279 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,240 know. But yeah, I think, I think 1280 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:52,040 that's literally everything. Actually give us a follow on 1281 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,280 YouTube. Oh God, we've got 100 and 1282 00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,400 however many 140,000 cumulative followers across all platforms. 1283 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,280 We've got about 2200 people following us on YouTube. 1284 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,280 If you would like us to be able to make some money just saying 1285 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,680 YouTube is the place to go, give us follow on there. 1286 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:11,720 That would be absolutely amazing. 1287 00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:13,360 It costs you nothing. You can even turn off the 1288 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,760 notifications if you don't get bothered. 1289 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,080 This is good on YouTube is I think a couple of the dads 1290 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,520 mentioned it to us. There's a hype button for what 1291 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,680 hype? If you're watching a video, I 1292 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,760 think something like you, you've given 2000 points, for instance, 1293 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:33,520 every YouTube account and every month you can just hype a show 1294 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:38,120 or a video or a creator that you're following and it pushes 1295 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,800 their video up in the ranking so more people find it. 1296 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,920 It cost you nothing to do, and you can do it to any creator 1297 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,240 that you follow. But it'd be nice if we did it to 1298 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:45,960 us. Go and do that. 1299 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,960 Go and click. Because when we look at the 1300 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,680 Spotify charts, or is no, it's the Apple podcast charts, we 1301 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,600 always laugh because we're like, oh, you're ranked #4 in the UK 1302 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,680 for parenting or you're ranked #1. 1303 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,640 In the PowerPoint, no. No, they don't pay anything, but 1304 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,760 it's nice to know that. Oh my God, On Apple, we're doing 1305 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,000 really well. On Spotify, yeah, we're doing 1306 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,360 really well. But then on YouTube, you're 1307 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,240 like, come on, guys, give us a help out. 1308 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,520 If you, if you go on YouTube, you know, watch, watch our 1309 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:19,320 videos, like it, put a comment in there, share it, whatever you 1310 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,640 want to do and it would just mean so much. 1311 00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,440 To us, and if it feels like a pain in the ass because you're 1312 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,040 worried like, oh, follow it, I'm going to get all these 1313 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:26,600 notifications. Just turn the notifications off 1314 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,560 if if you don't want to be bothered by any of that shit. 1315 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:34,960 But honestly, if you do want to give us a Chuck in any way to 1316 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,560 help us pay for trains or just, hey, if you want to try and help 1317 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,440 us not have to do 9 to 5 jobs, this is the way to do it. 1318 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,960 Yeah, just give us a follow everywhere if you can, because 1319 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,240 it would be very much appreciated. 1320 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,120 We do this. I mean, we'd enjoy doing it, but 1321 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,520 if, if, if it means anything to you at all, us doing these 1322 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:59,120 podcasts, just go on those platforms and just give us some 1323 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,920 love. Very much appreciated. 1324 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,640 Obviously, ideally I would love nothing more than to do this 1325 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,800 full time. Oh my God, I would love to do 1326 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,560 this full time. Just advocating for your kids. 1327 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,760 Just. Offending more people 24/7. 1328 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,360 Offending people all the time now seriously, if you could 1329 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,040 like, imagine if you could make a living advocating for disabled 1330 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,960 kids like. Do you know it'd be it'd be 1331 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,800 fantastic. And what I'd love to do as well 1332 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,640 this year is. Set up a charity. 1333 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,440 It'd be so many different things, but what I'd love to do 1334 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,360 this year is also we've got a good following in America, 1335 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:38,080 Australia, UAE is is kind of maybe have a dad come on from 1336 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,320 those different regions go, this is how it works over here and we 1337 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,320 can go, Oh my God, it's so different in America to, to kind 1338 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,080 of mainland Europe to UAE. And just get a bit of an 1339 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,640 overview of that as well, because we all go through the 1340 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:55,280 same struggles, but how it's handled and derisate process, 1341 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,000 yeah, in those countries is obviously different to over 1342 00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:58,920 here. So it's good to get an 1343 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,440 understanding. And it's, you kind of see 1344 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,720 comments sometimes where people, we all think it's like 1345 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,520 everything's fucking terrible. Yeah. 1346 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,600 And it's better in certain countries, like Australia, for 1347 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,560 example. Australia might have some things 1348 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,400 really good, but then they look at something we have and go, 1349 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,240 wow, that's brilliant, that's amazing. 1350 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,080 And we're like, what really. We've got something that's good. 1351 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,280 Yeah, we did. That so sort of UAE was like, Oh 1352 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,000 my God, that's so different there. 1353 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,840 But then again, a lot of it, you've got to put your hand in 1354 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,080 your pocket and you go, oh, OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1355 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:23,680 It does you up a little bit. Yeah. 1356 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,040 Yeah, it's it's not cheap. Yeah, but all right, mate. 1357 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,360 Well, thank you very much. Glad to have you back. 1358 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:30,520 I say that like you've been away. 1359 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,000 So like, you've literally just missed one. 1360 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:33,840 Episode I missed one episode, yeah. 1361 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,640 But yeah, we'll get back into the swing of it, guys. 1362 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,440 Anything you want us to talk about in the next episode? 1363 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,000 Chuck's a message. We'll have a look at it because 1364 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,880 there's probably loads of stuff we still haven't touched on. 1365 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,200 Yeah, absolutely. All right. 1366 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,280 Thanks guys. Love you loads. 1367 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:47,240 Take care, bye bye.