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Yeah, it's it's been amazing. 
I mean, the fact when we look 

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back at when we first recorded 
that episode and what I was 

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saying then is love of Mario 
Kart's gone, but it's now turned

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to Mario Olympics and Mario 
Judo. 

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You're randomly seeing him 
falling on the floor. 

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Like you OK, Max? 
And look at why he's watching on

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the video. 
He's reenacting what he's seen 

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in this judo fight on on his 
tablet and good. 

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Job, He's moved away from Mario.
Kart. 

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Yeah, yeah, definitely. 
I'm glad he's got a space for 

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it. 
Yeah, he's absolutely amazing. 

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The way he's coming on, he's now
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hub because. 
We were talking about it, 

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weren't we? 
We're going, yeah, going through

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the process of isn't. 
Specialist now, so is school 

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from it's year 1 to year 
11:00-ish and the school as a 

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whole, there's only 15 children 
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Well, so there's key stage one 
and two combined and the three 

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and four and the five. 
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children. 
So it's you've got 1 teacher who

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is an Sen teacher and then 
you've got 4 teaching assistants

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and they do sort of, it's all 
very child LED. 

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So they do 20 minutes of 
learning followed by 10 minutes 

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of free playing. 
That is generally his day, every

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day. 
So it gives him a chance to go 

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out, regulate, do what he needs 
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We actually got him to sit down 
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the first time in two years 
because we know he can read, but

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it's very much of Magnus as and 
when he wants. 

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To but it's very much like it 
was in this previous setting 

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where you can't get him to do 
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It has to be on his terms and 
it's not the fact that he's 

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arguing about you. 
It's like Magnus Squan, do some 

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reading, nothing. 
Do some reading nothing. 

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Unless. 
There's gig involved. 

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Yeah, unless there's gig 
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But obviously normally he'll, 
he'll just turn up, there's a 

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book on the table, he'll read it
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it, walk off almost like a mic 
drop moment. 

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But you, you can't plan for 
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You can't direct it. 
It's on his terms always. 

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But it it then separates itself 
from being that PDA that we've 

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already discussed where he's not
demanding to do stuff is just 

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avert in doing it. 
But I don't think. 

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It's Pedia. 
I think the fact is that it was 

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a mainstream hub and they didn't
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him. 
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been, yes, I mean, very good, 
but essentially he was shoved in

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a converted staff room and left 
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years. 
Whereas now he is in a setting 

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which knows how to teach 
autistic children. 

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So they said when he first got 
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problems getting him to comply 
because he has been left to his 

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own device for so long to do 
what he wants, when he wants, 

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how he wants. 
But know the brain that in a 

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little bit he is complying, he 
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he needs to do because as he's 
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it's been like night and day, 
hasn't it? 

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I mean, he's, he's 
comprehension. 

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He's thing that we've noticed 
the most is that he is, we use a

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lot of then and next language 
with him. 

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Well, now a next language with 
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So if we want him to do 
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him, now we tidy up dinosaurs 
next we're going to do play 

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dough. 
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been full on mouth. 
Then he's actually putting the 

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dinosaurs in the box and then 
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dough. 
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perspective, from my 
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lighter look at it. 
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where Alex might not do. 
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mummy, mummy, mummy, mummy, 
mummy, mummy. 

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And you see that little GIF of 
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Guy going on. 
That is life. 

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That is what happens. 
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seconds, I'll be with you. 
Mag sense up there Din Table 12 

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3-4 and just kept counting until
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And it's just little things like
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previously. 
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what we're saying so he has a 
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And it's such a basic thing in a
neurotypical world that somebody

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says something. 
This is reaction, cause and 

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effect and he's he's now 
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behind what he's doing, why he's
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other. 
People, The thing is that it's 

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just in our language as well, 
and it's not when I said when 

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we're on holiday, we went with 
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together and I said to Meg say 
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other way. 
So he's just saying cheese into 

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the wind in the opposite 
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specify before I said say cheese
that he needs to turn around 

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fast. 
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mindful. 
It's literal. 

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Thinking and yeah. 
Why did I just did that? 

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Why didn't mum ask me to just 
shake cheese? 

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Yeah, it's literally just 
shouting cheese into the sea. 

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I'm like, you need to turn 
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The school photo as well. 
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it's stood by the door facing. 
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the door. 
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Trying to get a school picture 
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there facing it's it's literal. 
It's very literal. 

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and one of the dads? 
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I think it was you that was 
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You were like annoyingly laid 
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Is it you that said that? 
Yeah, you are. 

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Yeah. 
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What is it him? 
Alex. 

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Yeah, no, that's yeah. 
It's only because you were here 

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now. 
Like what? 

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What did he mean by that? 
Like, is it? 

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Does he just take everything in 
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And you? 
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everything. 
But then I also said to you the 

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other day, I think he is on the 
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these people that needs to know 
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I'll ask him to do something and
I how many times I've lost my 

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temper this weekend. 
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form at the minute and I said to
you, can you get me some paper 

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clips? 
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He said I couldn't get any paper
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Can you not do it at the post 
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I was like, no, because I've got
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submit. 
Oh, why? 

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I'm like, what do you mean? 
Why? 

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It wasn't Why an argument Why 
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documents while stood in the 
queue waiting to post them? 

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But apparently I didn't explain 
it well enough. 

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Yeah, Alan is it's, I think 
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Close, right? 
Yeah, bars close. 

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Downstairs bars open though, so 
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Mean you catch it because we 
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is ADHD at the moment. 
So we were probably 90% up there

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and you. 
Are catching up to the thought 

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now. 
So those that don't understand 

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this, we've got twins, Magnus 
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Freya is neurotypical somewhat. 
Magnus is definitely. 

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I think you said that last time 
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Yeah, So Freya has a moment 
where she's quite emotionally 

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involved. 
She can't. 

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She can't. 
Handle her emotions. 

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But she just, she doesn't 
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But I think the biggest issue 
for us is delivering on both of 

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their needs at the same time. 
So we have to say I have to take

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Magnus Freya for certain days 
out and stuff, just me and her 

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so that she can have a time away
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So he's in centre of attention. 
It in a way it kind of feels bad

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because you're not giving Magnus
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Freya. 
So next weekend I'm taking her 

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ice skating, Yeah. 
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I would not wish about that, but
also he wouldn't, he wouldn't 

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expect that either. 
So it's just trying to balance 

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that relationship between not 
only yourself and Alex in 

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managing it, but the kids in 
what they what their 

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expectations. 
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downstairs that their 
relationship's starting to 

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change as well? 
Yeah, I mean the the disgusting.

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I mean, last night in the past 
they were spitting water at each

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other and it was the funniest 
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And then? 
Not to us, to them to. 

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Them and then when say not they 
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and they both thought it was 
nice and so. 

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Freya tries to hug Magnus and he
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Ow ow or help me is another. 
But he was saying ow and 

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laughing at the same time, so he
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something out of that. 
But she is. 

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She is wicked protective and not
My parents took them to soft 

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play a couple of weeks ago and a
little boy tried to grab Magnus 

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and Fred was MMA so Fred 
literally Sparta kicked him down

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the slide and this little. 
Boy, this is Sparta. 

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Literally Sparta kicks him down 
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pretty bad. 
Well, you're proud. 

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And you were like, yes, I 
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Understands Magnuson is 
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obviously like people picking on
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in that regard. 
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The fact that she's got so much 
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old just turned 7 year old is 
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it's changed their approach to 
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that she'll meet along the way. 
She's shown up with caring 

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nature with other kids that she 
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She'll go soft play and forget 
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It's always the younger brother 
or sister that she wants to play

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with and look after and she's 
got a caring nature about. 

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It I mean not she won that 
raffle. 

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Didn't as well as a good 
Roundhouse. 

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Yeah, she's got a good 
Roundhouse. 

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She won that raffle at school 
and as another little boy who is

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upset, so she took something out
of her raffle basket and gave it

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to. 
She didn't have to do that. 

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I think because of the wine that
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Magna she is more empathetic 
than most 7 year olds. 

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That's really good. 
That's really So what's 

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Christmas going to look like in 
your household this year? 

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So generally at Christmas we 
stay at home just because it's 

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easier. 
We have to wrap the top of the 

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stairs. 
We do them also so we can get a 

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slight line so we're not 
downstairs at 5:00 in the 

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morning. 
So if you get rolls of. 

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The elves did. 
It the elves did it, when you 

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wrap it up good, they can't get 
through the paper, so you get an

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extra. 
That's a Christmas tip. 

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That's one for you. 
Yeah, Brilliant. 

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We normally we're quite lucky 
that they both like roast 

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dinner, but we tend to stick to 
timings of a normal day. 

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And so we do dinner, dinner 
about four or 5:00 and then 

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they'll have like the normal 
lunch and we generally we go 

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out. 
That's an interesting point, 

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actually. 
So yeah, a lot of people will 

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bring Christmas dinner a lot 
earlier, 1:00 to 2:00. 

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You keep it at the same. 
Yeah. 

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We tried that, not last year, 
the year before, and it was just

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Magnus Wood not stay at the 
table, would he? 

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No, I mean, he, he jump, he's 
jumping like that anyway. 

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He's, he's up and down from the 
table. 

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He grazes rather than eats. 
Eats a meal, I mean. 

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You call it the Chronicles of 
the Travelling Spaghetti, don't 

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you? 
It's. 

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Literally it's. 
Just handfuls of pasta around 

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the house. 
Running after him with a plate, 

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trying to get anything in him at
the time, just trying to get 

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quite around his interest. 
But he's been, he's been a lot 

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better with his feeding that the
weird one for us with Christmas 

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Day is we'll have the Christmas 
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It's been up since fucking out 
the beginning of November. 

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I feel like, I feel like our 
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Lampoon's. 
You know, the battle against the

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neighbours beginning of 
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lights up outside. 
But because Magnus comes outside

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and stems about it, it's a great
thing. 

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But me hanging off the gutter 
isn't. 

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But but yeah, come Christmas 
Day, there's two piles of 

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presents, one for Freya, one for
Magnus. 

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Freya will go full taz ripping 
everything open. 

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Brilliant. 
Thanks. 

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Brilliant. 
Thanks. 

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Love it, love it, love it. 
Magnus will open one. 

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I go, oh, that's nice. 
Take it into the kitchen, start 

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playing with it. 
He won't address the rest of his

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presence for a couple of hours 
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attention. 
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for our be like, can we go and 
open the rest of Magnus's 

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presence? 
She knows they're not for her, 

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but she knows. 
She knows that she just wants 

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them open Excitement needs to be
there. 

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She needs the big reveal. 
So. 

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Just take a couple of days just 
to get through Magna's opening 

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like Lydia last year. 
We just like OK one. 

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Then they're like, we still have
the big bag of just presents a 

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couple of days later and you 
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Like you got pressure and yeah, 
open it. 

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Open Mags is very methodical 
isn't he? 

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Sort of like open something, 
open the box, go and play with 

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it, and then he'll come back, 
open the next one, open the box,

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but it's from what, 3-4 years 
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It's worlds apart from what it 
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what a present was. 
He didn't understand that he had

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to open it. 
Well, I went round my mum's 

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house yesterday and I had the 
message her in advance saying 

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anything that you've got on the 
Christmas tree, can you please 

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remove it because Magnus CS 
present, Magnus opens present 

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and he he would have just worked
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front of it. 
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and I was the last one at the 
sports centre, so the Sports 

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Village, we had Banks Castle 
going on for somebody's birthday

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and then there's a separate 
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You can go and eat in there and 
Add all the presents in the 

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corner. 
Might just ushered his way into 

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the room, stood in the corner 
going Oh. 

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Shit. 
Yeah, but it asks it, It says 

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presents like it's a question. 
So we're standing next to him. 

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We'd be like presents. 
But thankfully he didn't open 

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anything because he obviously 
was in his party. 

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But yeah, that, that's how we 
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Christmas. 
So my car is full of presents. 

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There's presents dotted around 
the house in locked cupboards. 

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If we get any more, we're in 
trouble, let's put it that way. 

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Yeah, Because you've got no 
sight. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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The loft is the next option. 
No, our next door name, because 

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our next door name. 
But is an absolute gem. 

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Not a shout out to Anne, of 
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Literally though Max has got 
this thing where he jumps on the

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trampoline and anything and 
everything he can get his hands 

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on goes over Anne's fence. 
Her a greenhouse is still 

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standing, God only knows, but 
she comes back once a week with 

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a carrier bag. 
For us. 

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Yeah. 
She's what? 

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Legend. 
Dinosaurs, Teletubbies, number 

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blocks, anything that he's done 
in any certain order, it will 

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come back in that bag. 
Yeah, and, and, and once a week 

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she brings back a carrier bag of
stuff that Max has bounced off 

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her greenhouse. 
Oh. 

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Yeah, what a legend. 
Nice name. 

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Yeah, pretty nice. 
Understanding of all the shit 

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ending up in her garden that she
doesn't want there. 

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She's a. 
Babe, Yeah. 

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Sorry. 
If it's not the kids, it's a 

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cat. 
Sort of, yeah. 

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Well done, Anne. 
Well done Anne. 

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Shout around. 
You're a babe, as they say. 

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Oh, amazing. 
Well, look, thank you very much 

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for for coming on again. 
Again. 

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DOGII just want to say a massive
shout out to everybody that 

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spoke tonight and especially 
Charlotte, who sat right in 

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front of me at the minute when 
she was speaking and was talking

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about 16 years old speaking in 
Parliament. 

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And then you have that flashback
of what park was I in at 16 

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years old, but the side were in 
my hand. 

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And yeah. 
Absolutely amazing. 

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I think it's nice to. 
An autistic. 

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A person's point of view, 
especially a teenager's point of

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view, because you tend to hear 
sort of older people or parent 

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carers. 
There's nobody sort of I mean, 

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Magnus is 7. 
So it's nice to hear your point 

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of view, which is a few years 
down the line and it it gives us

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an insight into how you. 
There's a lot of us, Steve. 

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I was saying earlier, you've got
that two opinions of the inside 

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looking out and the outside 
looking in, and it's something 

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that everybody's parents doesn't
tend to see, the outside looking

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in. 
Yeah, his. 

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Parents, as much as we know 
about it, we can we we don't 

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know what it's like to be 
autistic. 

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If we did, we'd have that 
massive exactly. 

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This wouldn't even be a thing. 
But the more of that that comes 

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along, the more instant 
everybody's going to get 100%. 

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You guys are absolutely opening 
the doors to everybody to have 

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this conversation. 
I know it's called the dad cast,

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but the so people involved, it's
got such a valid opinion and a 

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point of view. 
We're all learning from it along

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the line. 
Yeah, man, appreciate it. 

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Thank you mate. 
Thank you very much. 

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Right.