1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:13,800 This is At the Extremes, beloved. 2 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,480 Welcome back to At the Extremes, the podcast where we discuss the 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,400 extremes in our society and how we got here. 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,240 As always, we're your host. I'm Greg. 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,800 It's Judy. And today we're going to be 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,680 discussing Juneteenth. But before we get into all that, 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,080 Judy, you get a silver lining for us. 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,800 I do go for it. Well, first of all, thank you 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,800 for having me back. The fans have spoken and they 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,160 would like to see more duty in their lives, so it's really 11 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:44,600 great to be here this evening. I just came back from a really 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,000 big high as far as friend trips go. 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:55,640 I went to a undisclosed area of the Florida Panhandle on the 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:01,320 Gulf of Mexico side. Gulf of Mexico, they say, except 15 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,480 that a lot of businesses really took to the whole Gulf of 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,480 America thing. It was incredibly offensive. 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,600 It's America, We don't need to get into it. 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,600 But here's what I'll say in about Florida in general and as 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,440 a whole. Love your beaches. 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,720 Strongly, strongly, strongly. Dislike slash hate your 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:24,200 politics, but we had a beautiful time, me and my 2 very best 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:30,600 friends from 20 plus years and we just we reconnected and we 23 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:35,480 had solid like quality time together for the first time in a 24 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,600 really long time, probably in like a decade or more. 25 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,040 It's. Incredibly important too. 26 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:40,920 So good. Good on. 27 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:46,040 You it is and I really, I, I recognized how much I had been 28 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,360 lacking that and it was really just a lovely time for such 29 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,280 simple reasons. Like we, we all like, we got 30 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,200 along, you know, like we coexisted in the same residence 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,240 together, like just peacefully and easily. 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,800 We, you know, we, we were on the beach, we swam in the ocean, we 33 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,240 ate good food. We drank a lot of rose, like 34 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,680 probably my body weight in rose and we just had the best time. 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,440 And I cannot wait to do it again next year and all the years that 36 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,720 followed because we decided to make it an annual thing. 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,640 And I'm just really pleased as punch that that occurred. 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:25,440 So shout out to that whole trip and everything about it. 39 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,960 And today is 3 whole years since we brought our little Princess 40 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:36,480 home, Ruby Prinkles. She though she was not born 41 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,440 today, this is her gotcha day, the day she came, her coming 42 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,400 home day, and she has been with us for three whole years and 43 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,080 she's looking at me with stars in her eyes and we are obsessed 44 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,400 with each other. Well, that's funny because you 45 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,920 took my my silver lining. I just wanted to talk about 46 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:53,960 Ruby. So. 47 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,760 Oh. Sorry, but you still can. 48 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,120 You can. Talk. 49 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,640 Oh, no. I mean, she's a terrorist. 50 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:01,680 She she's my little, my little, my little sweet bird. 51 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,240 So I'm glad that she's here with us. 52 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,120 But yeah, I know you, you you kind of brought it home with the 53 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,600 three years in now. So she's, she's our, she's our 54 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,040 little little baby. We got to take her picture out 55 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,240 front, in front of the tree. We do. 56 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,760 We it's a it's a thing. OK. 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,640 All right, fair. Well, I'll, I'll let I'll leave 58 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:19,240 that to you. OK. 59 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,080 We'll do. We'll do it tomorrow. 60 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,160 Well, now that we've gotten our Silver Linings out the way, 61 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,960 let's go take a real quick break When we come back, Berger 62 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,640 actually going to discuss a surprise douche can do. 63 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:44,320 We're back. So this week, well, this special 64 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,480 episode, this bonus episode bonus owed. 65 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,880 Bronus. Bronus we we are going to cover 66 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,680 well, the the main story is Juneteenth is this is a holiday 67 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,160 episode. But Judy, I recognize that you 68 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,000 you've got a couple of things that you need to get off your 69 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,040 chest and it's been a couple of months. 70 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,360 So I'm going to turn it over to you for real quick. 71 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,240 What do you got? First of all, you can't see me, 72 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,520 but I'm shimmying. Oh, I can see you. 73 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:12,720 I'm shimmying. I'm. 74 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,600 Shimmying. So I actually put in a special 75 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,079 douche canoe request for KKK Caroline. 76 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:24,760 You guessed it. Caroline Leavitt, the White 77 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,440 House press secretary. The one and only, yeah. 78 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:35,480 So yeah, can I start now? Go for it, yeah. 79 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,320 So I don't really know where to begin, but I hate her. 80 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,120 Well, that's going to be a all right, let me let's start here. 81 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,240 Why do you why do you dislike her so much? 82 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,640 Like, what is it? I mean, I know why I dislike 83 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,160 Caroline Levitt, but why do you dislike Caroline Levitt so much? 84 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,480 Let. Me count the ways. 85 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,480 Yeah. I mean, like as a woman, I 86 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,840 really strongly oppose her views. 87 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,640 And that is my own personal plight. 88 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,800 But like I recognize. It what's what about her 89 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:09,600 personal views? Don't. 90 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:11,280 Don't you? Like, oh, she's a trap wife, 91 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,560 Sure, big time. I mean, like, as you know, 92 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,280 that's that's not my jam. So fundamentally we disagree. 93 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:23,840 But her politics clearly, I mean she is a staunch Republican and 94 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,920 big time Trump supporter. She's anti abortion heavily. 95 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,280 Like I grew up Catholic blah blah blah. 96 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:34,240 My faith is so important to me. She's a she's she's. 97 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,040 Like I know that you took a little bit of time this week to 98 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,120 like look into her a little bit like, so she is Catholic, She 99 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,400 grew up Catholic or like what's her, what's her back story? 100 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,360 So there's a really long back story, but since you asked about 101 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,840 her religion, we can go there first. 102 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,040 She's really big into like, family life and her Catholic 103 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,800 education. She went to college at Saint 104 00:05:53,800 --> 00:06:00,720 Anselm College in Amherst, NH, where she, I mean, really like 105 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,880 pledges, that whole sanctity in of human life, which is a big 106 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,400 thing that you hear in the Catholic Church. 107 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,800 It also makes me gag a little bit each time I hear it because 108 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,040 it's often said by a white man and it's just it's incredibly 109 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,560 triggering to be a female and to. 110 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,880 Say a man who's never been well, hopefully never been in a sexual 111 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,240 relationship. Or if if they have been in a 112 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,920 sexual relationship, hopefully it's been with a woman. 113 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,520 Well, you know, I sometimes, sometimes there are deacons in 114 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,520 the Catholic Church and they can, they can have wives. 115 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,840 But no, you're right. If it were a priest saying that, 116 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:37,360 let's hope not. But but even still, like priests 117 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,880 can have lives before and after becoming a priest. 118 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:46,320 So here's the thing. She was quoted saying the issue 119 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,120 of life is of the utmost importance. 120 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,360 It is very clear in our constitution. 121 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,400 Without the right to life, nothing else matters. 122 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:58,320 And right off the jump, we are a hypocrite. 123 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,120 Because here's the thing. Oh, you see? 124 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,120 You already know where I'm going. 125 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,160 You already know. Are we talking about white lives 126 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,200 only, Caroline? I think we are, Yeah. 127 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,760 Well, if you're associated with the Trump administration, I have 128 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,160 to assume that that's the case. I am annoyed with her on so many 129 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,440 levels but like the way she doesn't answer questions because 130 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,600 let's be honest, she doesn't answer questions but sometimes 131 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,840 she does, usually if it's a white person. 132 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,640 Happened to have noticed that in general, there aren't a lot of 133 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,960 like diverse folks in the press room at this point. 134 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,240 In addition to them eliminating like certain news outlets and 135 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:41,160 like limiting people's access, they've also begun this thing 136 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,240 called the new media seat where they let like, you know, 137 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,960 unqualified folks, Instagram influencers, for instance, to 138 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,640 like come in and like sit in that new media seat and you 139 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,000 know, like. Tik Tokers. 140 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,680 Get a get a crack at things. Yeah, in the press room. 141 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:04,320 So like they they allow for like even like like extreme right 142 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,840 wing people. Coming and have a new. 143 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,920 Media seat, Yeah, I've seen that. 144 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,120 I've seen that. That's a thing. 145 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so The thing is, is that she 146 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,320 is very like, and her, the beginnings of her, her political 147 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,360 career are, are pretty interesting too. 148 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,520 So first of all, she is 27 years old. 149 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,720 She's 28 this year, but like she graduated in 2019, which is like 150 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,720 we were literally in the house that we bought at that point and 151 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,480 well into our 30s. So like, I, I look at her and 152 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,120 I'm just like, Mar a Lago face. Is that you? 153 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,600 But also like wait. What's Mar a Lago face? 154 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,240 We're going to have to put a pin in that and come back to it 155 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:46,320 because we will. We'll come back to that. 156 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,680 There's another clip that I can send you if I can, like, fire 157 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:53,200 fingers, like fast enough. But her political journey began 158 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,720 when she was in college at that St. 159 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,880 Anselm College in New Hampshire that we talked about. 160 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,600 And she interned at Fox News and later in the White House Office 161 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:07,560 of Presidential Correspondence. So she served when she graduated 162 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:12,800 in 2019, she served as assistant press secretary under Kaylee 163 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,320 Mcanany, which is like the whitest Mcanny, sorry, which is 164 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:23,200 very white, that name. Kaylee Mcaney was the former she 165 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,840 had. She had her job before KKK. 166 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:28,600 Oh, neat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 167 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:29,160 All right. Cool. 168 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,320 And she served as the communicate communications 169 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,360 director for Representative Elise Stefanik. 170 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:37,640 Stefanik. Yep. 171 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:38,400 Stefanik. Yep. 172 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:43,000 OK, Sure. Did you want to get into her 173 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,160 personal life at all? Or her. 174 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,080 Husband. Get into. 175 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,760 It I mean, I'm here to listen. Absolutely. 176 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,400 Well, you know, her husband's net worth is valued at around 177 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:58,440 6,000,000, which is a little like, it's kind of small. 178 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,280 I thought what? What does he do for a living, do 179 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,640 you know? Or well, he is. 180 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,600 I believe he's a, he's a real estate developer, Nicholas. 181 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,600 Love it. Did she not take his last name? 182 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,120 No, his last name is like Ricchio or something. 183 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,520 So she so, OK, hold on real quick. 184 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,720 So she's like a trad wife, like I believe in, like the the 185 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,720 sanctity of marriage, like traditional women's roles 186 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:27,120 doesn't take her her husband's surname. 187 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,240 I don't think she's been married like super long. 188 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,400 I didn't I didn't do that deep of a dive on her personal life. 189 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,120 But like, I do know that he is 32 years her senior, so I think 190 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,840 he's around 59 years old. Interesting. 191 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,160 If my math is correct. Yeah. 192 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:45,560 So, yeah, so it's what's it what what I thought was interesting 193 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:49,000 was there were a couple figures around like her annual salary as 194 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,640 the press secretary, 'cause we know that like this party has 195 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,120 been purchased, you know, we can also put a pin in that. 196 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,200 But her annual salary is estimated to be somewhere in the 197 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:07,440 ballpark of around 180,000 to possibly up to $220,000 a year, 198 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,680 which actually in like 2025 economy isn't that much money. 199 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,200 But then so husband's net worth is around 6,000,000. 200 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,360 Her estimated net net worth as of 2025 is somewhere between 5 201 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,560 and 10 million. She does bring in. 202 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,920 Well. So I, if we did a deeper dive, 203 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,520 you know, we'd be able to see that she does some speaking 204 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,440 engagement, some book signing. So she's got some additional 205 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,000 income coming in as well. Sure. 206 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:45,160 But anyway, so I just, I find her very troubling. 207 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:52,120 I do think that she tells a lot of lies in that press room and I 208 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,800 I think she's an idiot too. She's not very intelligent, 209 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,480 although she seems to have the education and the, you know, 210 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,520 political accolades as a heavy Trumper to to back her. 211 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,560 But I think she's sort of a Ding Dong. 212 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:10,320 So you know. Well, that's funny because, you 213 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,640 know, in in anticipation for the show tonight, you sent me over a 214 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,160 couple of clips. You are flying on an airplane 215 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,560 with your loved ones, which every one of us in this room 216 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:21,080 has. Do you pray that your plane 217 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,040 lands safely and gets you to your destination, or do you pray 218 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,960 that the pilot has a certain skin color? 219 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,720 Think we all know the answer to that question. 220 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,000 And as President Trump said yesterday, it's common sense. 221 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,200 I'll, I'll, I'll turn it to you first. 222 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,120 I've got my own opinions about that on this Juneteenth episode. 223 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,800 No, I actually would like to hear from you first. 224 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,160 I've done a lot of talking, sure. 225 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:47,240 OK, fair enough. What I think about, the last 226 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,360 thing I think about is skin colour, and I think that white 227 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,960 folks in the MAGA party think way more about like people's 228 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,560 sexual orientation their. Race their. 229 00:12:56,560 --> 00:13:00,640 Skin colour more than like most. People do. 230 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,480 I've never thought about while there's turbulence in the air. 231 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,000 Oh my God I hope the pilot's white. 232 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,320 What a weird comment. Or that the pilot's black but 233 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,920 like why is there man like that? Because she's a racist. 234 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,440 It was such a weird way to say it though, like it's almost like 235 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,800 code language bullshit. Is it coded? 236 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,560 No, I don't really know what I'm I. 237 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:27,520 Feel like it's just like we're. We're saying any sense? 238 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,280 We're saying the quiet part out loud now though. 239 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,520 Well. Yeah, but she but she wasn't she 240 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:36,720 was vague and like, was she? Yes, I, I don't know her exact 241 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,600 wording. I I would need to hear the clip 242 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:39,960 played again. Let's play it one more time 243 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,400 because I think that that that it this, this, that, that, that 244 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:48,040 it's required at this point. Flying on an airplane with your 245 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,600 loved ones, which every one of us in this room has. 246 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,040 Do you pray that your plane lands safely and gets you to 247 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,400 your destination? Or do you pray that the pilot 248 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,360 has a certain skin color? Think we all know? 249 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:04,320 So she said, do you pray that your plane gets there safely or 250 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,040 do you pray that your pilot has a certain skin color? 251 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,280 And I just don't know anybody who's ever taken a flight who's 252 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,280 gone. I hope my pilot's white. 253 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:18,080 Like, I think that the white MAGA contingent feels like that 254 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,440 all of the time. I hope that my bus driver's a 255 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,360 white guy. I hope that my trash guy is a 256 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,120 white guy. I hope that the people who are 257 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,680 working in my fields, like picking food for us are white 258 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,360 people. Because that is. 259 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,680 Their well, that is how they think, but it was the way that 260 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,280 she phrased the question. She said are you praying that 261 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,120 your plane lands safely? Yes, everyone does. 262 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,840 But, she said. Or are you praying that the 263 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,480 pilot has a certain skin? Color. 264 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,680 So it's either your pilot's white and your plane lands 265 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,520 safely, or they're black and you crash, or you have a help like 266 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,600 or. OK, I guess I didn't hear it 267 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,360 exactly that way when I heard it the first time because I was so 268 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,120 confused by her choice of language that it was hard to 269 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,120 process, like the statement itself. 270 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,480 But then she went on to ramble about like common sense, which 271 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,720 is like, that's a thread that like you hear a lot as like a 272 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,480 almost like a collusion term, like, like over here, like 273 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,480 common sense, common sense. But the way that they're framing 274 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,920 it is not the definition of common sense kind of thing. 275 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,840 So yeah, like they're just, it's word salad. 276 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,480 That's what I'm, that's what I'm reaching for, is that I feel 277 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:24,600 like that was word salad, but almost as if to like, quell 278 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,520 anxiety. No, we're not racist. 279 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,560 But actually you are guys, because it's the way that you 280 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,080 speak all the time. You're racist. 281 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,400 Like it's ingrained in you. We're just looking for qualified 282 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,000 individuals. We're not looking for, you know, 283 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,400 oh, you know, who needs DEI when you've got qualified white 284 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,720 dudes? Not not to look there. 285 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,040 There's no one in no one would say anything different. 286 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,360 I think when when you're when you're flying on a plane, I 287 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,280 don't really give a shit what color you are, what race you 288 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,640 are, what sex you are. I just want to land safely. 289 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,120 Why is she worried about it other than being a racist? 290 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,240 Well, she's also she's a puppet for propaganda. 291 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,240 Like, that's her like little Nicki name. 292 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,840 She blames the left for everything. 293 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,440 And it sounds just like how Donald Trump immediately points 294 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,240 the finger at Joe Biden. Every time something goes wrong 295 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,600 and he's held accountable for something or someone points the 296 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,520 finger at him, he immediately points it back at someone else. 297 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:24,440 She does that too. Honestly, during my friend's 298 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,360 weekend it came up like, is she sleeping with Donald Trump? 299 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,680 Because she really seems to like, lick his balls. 300 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,560 Well, let's go ahead and spill the tea, Queen. 301 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,400 I'm saying like, I mean, is there not like kind of a weird 302 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,520 relationship between the two of them, but also like why are? 303 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,480 You starting a conspiracy on this show? 304 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,400 Perhaps I am next I'll start a cult. 305 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:45,560 No, no, no. This. 306 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,200 This could be like an E, not an E What is it? 307 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,600 Yeah. E like Real Housewives of like 308 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,600 Washington, DC, but exclusively for the White House. 309 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:59,680 Her, Melania, They're all like sleeping with Donald, watching 310 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,240 his big tubby body slam on top of God. 311 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,400 Yam tits. Well, you know, you you also 312 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,720 sent over another one that another clip that is that. 313 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,440 Yeah, while we're on the subject of how she may or may not feel 314 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,800 about specific races, why, why don't we go ahead and play this 315 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,800 clip, I mean. Warned that any protests on 316 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,000 Saturday would be met with force. 317 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,840 Can you clarify what kind of protest President Trump does 318 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,800 support or find acceptable? The president absolutely 319 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,760 supports peaceful protests. He supports the First Amendment. 320 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,720 He supports the right of Americans to make their voices 321 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,920 heard. He does not support violence of 322 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,000 any kind. He does not support assaulting 323 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,600 law enforcement officers who are simply trying to do their job. 324 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,400 It's very clear for the president what he supports and 325 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,280 what he does not. Unfortunately for Democrats, 326 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,800 that line has not been made clear. 327 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,040 And they've allowed this unrest and this violence to continue, 328 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,440 and the president has had to step in. 329 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,760 There were peaceful. Protests on Saturday for the 330 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,760 military parade. President Trump would allow 331 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,520 that. Of course the president supports 332 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,200 peaceful protests. What a stupid question. 333 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:09,320 In the president's comments yesterday, though, he just said 334 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,520 protesters would be strongly dealt with. 335 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,760 Why is he not out saying all peaceful protesters will be 336 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,640 protected? I think two things can be 337 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,720 important at the same time. And the president, as I just 338 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,720 answered, supports the right of Americans to peacefully protest. 339 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,200 He supports the First Amendment, but that is not the majority of 340 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,400 the behavior that we have seen taking place in Los Angeles. 341 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,200 We have seen Mom. Let me, I want to stop there 342 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,560 real quick because I, I take great issue with this because 343 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,440 I've been reading a lot of really good reporting from, from 344 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,120 a reporter from, from The Intercept by his name is Nick 345 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:46,720 Terse and he, he's been doing an incredible job on the ground 346 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,760 covering what's actually been happening. 347 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,800 Go off, King. And there is nothing more 348 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,480 frustrating than reading than reading like what's actually 349 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,560 happening versus like hearing like this nightmare scenario 350 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,480 that's coming out of the White House where there the entire 351 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,520 city of LA is on fire. We covered in the last episode 352 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,720 where it's like right, like a couple blocks away there's an 353 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,200 active pride parade. Like this is very localized. 354 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,000 There was like line dancing in the street. 355 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,720 Peaceful protests and they're out here saying things like, Oh, 356 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,000 well, there's violence in the streets. 357 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,520 There's cars are being when you send in Marines, the Nash, you 358 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,280 federalize the National Guard and then you start beating the, 359 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,320 I mean, not the LA police are doing a really good job. 360 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,600 I just watched a video before we got on the air where there was 361 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,800 Ala police officer. There was a woman who was 362 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:40,880 standing in the middle of the street. 363 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Her arms were up and they just came and just shoved her to the 364 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,200 ground, knocked her unconscious, dragged her off of the street, 365 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,760 found a woman in a wheelchair, rolled her into protesters. 366 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,280 I want to I'll link to it. And it's just like, what are we 367 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,040 doing? Like we're talking about 368 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:05,800 peaceful protests against something that is so UN UN 369 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:14,480 American and you have this this this woman who is up there 370 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,120 spouting off. Propaganda bullshit coming out 371 00:20:18,120 --> 00:20:20,840 of the White House and it is so upsetting. 372 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:26,480 And she she is a newborn baby as far as life is concerned, but 373 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,720 also just, I mean, she licked the balls of Donald Trump from 374 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,080 the moment she rolled out of her like, Catholic education 375 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,520 protected white life in New England. 376 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:44,840 And I'm just, I'm not here for it, if just to further the rage. 377 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:50,400 I mean, not only does she tell lies on behalf of Yam Tits McGee 378 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,360 up there, but like. I like that that you're calling 379 00:20:52,360 --> 00:20:55,160 him Yam tits. I, I can't claim that as my own, 380 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,720 but I am going to, I may, I am going to perpetuate it. 381 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:02,200 But she just, she's working for the devil and she knows it. 382 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,000 And This is why her net worth has increased and This is why 383 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:11,040 she is just, she shuts down anything that may or may not 384 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:14,840 remotely question like this administration and does not 385 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,120 allow for free speech and then tells lies in the face of 386 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:18,840 people. And it's just Fox News all the 387 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,200 way. And there's something else that 388 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,160 she said. I mean, she's, she is obviously 389 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,720 very pro pro-life apparently, except if it's a black or brown 390 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,920 life, obviously, but something that she said. 391 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,440 Gay queer life. Correct. 392 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,680 Anything other than, you know, white life. 393 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:45,080 White cisgendered individuals. But regarding abortion, she said 394 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,440 it's not about women's reproductive rights. 395 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,840 It is not about Women's Health, it is about life and protecting 396 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,760 that period. And I think I saw the surface of 397 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:03,440 the sun inside of my irises when I read that because I yes, it is 398 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,280 about women's reproductive rights. 399 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,480 Yes, the fuck it is about Women's Health, especially 400 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,560 people of color who die at exponentially higher rates 401 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,480 because of this bullshit, in honor of the woman who whose 402 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,800 baby was born to her lifeless body this week in Georgia while 403 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,840 her family pulled her off life support just a day or two ago. 404 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,160 What the fucking fuck? Yes, it is about that. 405 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,360 But you know what it isn't about? 406 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:36,480 It's not about protecting life, Not at all. 407 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,040 And that is why she is the biggest liar of all time. 408 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:45,480 And she is unequivocally her very own douche canoe of this 409 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,080 week. Yeah, no, Caroline is. 410 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,240 She's a special kind of bootlicker. 411 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:58,560 Caroline Lovett, she defended. This is one of the clips that I 412 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,440 found that I sent over to you where she defends the firing of 413 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,640 the Librarian of the Library of Congress. 414 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:06,840 Oh, boy. Carla. 415 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,040 Carla Hayden, Yes. Who, by the way, was not only 416 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,440 the first African American, but the first woman as well to hold 417 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,560 this post so. Yeah, like this is completely, 418 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,840 there's no coincidence here. This is this is completely 419 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,000 without coincidence question. The president fired the 420 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,320 Librarian of Congress. Why did he choose to do that? 421 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,400 We felt she did not fit the needs of the American people. 422 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,920 There were quite concerning things that she had done at the 423 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,640 Library of Congress in the pursuit of DEI and putting 424 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,040 inappropriate books in the library for children. 425 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,640 And we don't believe that she was serving the interests of the 426 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,000 American taxpayer well. So she has been removed from her 427 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,280 position and the president is well within his rights to do 428 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,360 that, John. So you're laughing, and I want 429 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:54,080 to know why you're laughing. Talk. 430 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,120 Talk to me about why you're laughing about that clue you. 431 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,920 Stupid bitch. Oh boy. 432 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,600 Oh, she doesn't know. She doesn't know that the 433 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,440 Library of the Librarian of Congress doesn't put, doesn't 434 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,320 doesn't doesn't rent books to children. 435 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,640 Yeah, the Library of Congress is. 436 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:23,600 It's one of those institutions that is without a preference 437 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,880 because it's a library and it belongs to the people of this 438 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,240 country. And when we come back, we're 439 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,240 going to talk a little bit about why what she just said there in 440 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,080 that last clip is so incredibly consequential, especially when 441 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,680 we talk about things like the celebration of Juneteenth. 442 00:24:55,580 --> 00:24:58,660 We're back. Oh, my goodness gracious. 443 00:24:58,660 --> 00:25:04,500 Well, I, I have to say, after listening to those clips of 444 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:08,340 Caroline, she is a, she is a proper douche canoe. 445 00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:10,580 So thank you for bringing that to to the table. 446 00:25:10,580 --> 00:25:14,240 She's a twat. I hate that motherfucker. 447 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:18,600 Let's go ahead and turn to something maybe a bit more 448 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,960 celebratory. We're going to start a little 449 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,120 bit more on the Caroline Levitt end of things and work our way 450 00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:27,960 towards something a little bit nicer. 451 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,440 So it's going to start a little darker. 452 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,200 We'll end up in the nice spot. But I I wanted to talk about 453 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,560 Juneteenth. And for the listeners who are 454 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,400 are tuning in, you might feel like, duh, of course we know 455 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,600 what this is, blah, blah, blah. But if you don't, here's a real 456 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,720 quick refresher. Juneteenth is significant in 457 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,720 American history because, and specifically in the African 458 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:55,440 American history because it is the day that the Union Army made 459 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,120 its way to Galveston, TX under the leadership of General Gordon 460 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,000 Grandeur. And he announced to the people 461 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,880 of Texas that all enslaved African Americans were free. 462 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,640 So this happened, I believe, two years after the Civil War ended 463 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,040 and they finally made their way out to Texas and said, hey, 464 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,720 listen, folks, you're, you're working in these fields. 465 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,720 You're free. You, you, you no longer have to 466 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,440 do this from the Smithsonian. With the end of slavery, 467 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,160 searching for family members who have been separated or sold away 468 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,920 became the focus of many formerly enslaved individuals 469 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,960 after the General grantor showed up. 470 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,200 The number of years of separation did not deter people 471 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,280 from hoping to reunite with their lost loved ones. 472 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,600 Newspaper advertisements, letters and word of mouth were 473 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,840 all employed as a part of the search. 474 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,440 The hope was that a positive response might lead to a 475 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,840 reunion. A family member. 476 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:57,240 So there's a lot of, when you think about just like the 477 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,200 general scope of history, right? Like this is a really big 478 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,760 moment, right? Like you've got these people who 479 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,960 didn't even know that slavery was over and now we're being 480 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,920 told, hey, you're free. Like, oh, and now you can like 481 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,080 you can leave this plot of land and just go do whatever you want 482 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,880 to do that that's incredibly like, imagine the weight of 483 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,120 that, that moment, right? Like probably. 484 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,120 Doesn't feel real. It can't, right? 485 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:26,480 Like, that's I, you know, I try to put, you know, when we went 486 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,040 to Rome, I tried to put myself in like the shoes of like Caesar 487 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,720 or Nero or like, you know, like, or, or a gladiator who is being 488 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,400 dragged through the streets. Like what? 489 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,160 Like we're walking through these cobblestone streets. 490 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,160 I'm going, Oh my God. Like the amount of history that 491 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,880 happened here. Imagine putting yourself in that 492 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,600 kind of place where you're just like, all right, now what do I 493 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,960 do now? Right. 494 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,400 Like what, what, what do I do now? 495 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,640 Juneteenth is often associated with celebrations of a physical 496 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,240 emancipation from slavery. It also signaled another type of 497 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:04,360 liberation for the newly freed. Between 1861 and 1900, more than 498 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:07,600 90 institutions of higher education were founded for Black 499 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,120 Americans who could not otherwise attend predominantly 500 00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,440 white institutions because of segregation laws. 501 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,400 These schools and historically blocked colleges and 502 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,080 universities. HBC US, of course, became 503 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,560 repositories for African American history, culture and 504 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,520 safeguarding generations of memorabilia and documenting the 505 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:32,800 rich history of HBCU traditions. For nearly 4 million mostly 506 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,600 illiterate and recently freed African Americans, education was 507 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,120 a crucial first step after emancipation to becoming 508 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,760 self-sufficient. Learning to read was not only 509 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,560 desirable, it was often times necessary to protect their 510 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,440 freedoms, find employment, and communicate with separated 511 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,040 family members. It makes me think back a little 512 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,520 bit a couple of episodes ago where we were talking about, I 513 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,960 think we actually did the straight of the Black History 514 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,040 Month. But the idea of like being able 515 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,480 to read like the, the whole like grandfathered in thing. 516 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,440 Like we were talking about that North Carolina thing, you know, 517 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,920 during during Black History Month. 518 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:19,000 And it was just like, Oh my God, like the amount of like catch up 519 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,440 work that was required to get to a place where you could settle a 520 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,960 town and make money and and have land and like all this stuff. 521 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,240 And people wonder about privilege. 522 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,360 That's what's crazy to me. It's like you when you set those 523 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:41,040 scales where they were set at this time, they had so much work 524 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:47,200 to do to catch up to where even the most basic idiot of 525 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,600 privilege was at a starting point. 526 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,360 And that's fucking insane to think about. 527 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,400 And. Let's also be fair and clear 528 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,320 here, right? Like a West Virginia coal miner, 529 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,480 you know, indentured servant didn't have like, through their 530 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,520 own power and persuasion, a leg up, but they did because they 531 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,800 weren't a slave and they could read and they could barter and 532 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,840 they had money. And that's not to say that oh, 533 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,280 they had it so much better. But when you're not a slave, Oh 534 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,840 my God, life looks a whole lot different for you than it does 535 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,920 if you don't know how to fucking read. 536 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,880 Reading is such an important piece of being a human being, 537 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,600 and to have that stripped from you, like intentionally stripped 538 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,560 from you is a really disastrous place to start. 539 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,600 It's it's that old adage, right? Knowledge is power. 540 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,320 And when you have no knowledge, you literally have no power. 541 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,080 That's right. And and there's no way to 542 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,360 navigate this world. You're right, like without 543 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,640 immense struggle. And that doesn't mean that the 544 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,280 kid in West Virginia who grew up in a coal mining town to drug 545 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,320 addicted parents perhaps, or in an in an abusive home. 546 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,040 Come back to the 1800s, where, like, they didn't have to worry, 547 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,760 like, drugs weren't as much of a problem. 548 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,200 It was just like, hey, this is your plot of land. 549 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,960 You're going to work it as an indentured servant. 550 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,320 But like, in 20 years, you're free from from the land. 551 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,200 There was no option for black folks back then, right? 552 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,880 Like, that was not an option. Yeah, so back to our story, 553 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,160 though. The first schools and colleges 554 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,480 for African Americans were created largely through the 555 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,960 support of civic and religious organizations like the Freeman's 556 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,640 Bureau, the the American Missionary Association, and the 557 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,920 African Meth Methodist Episcopal Church. 558 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,040 I went to an AME church when I was a kid. 559 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,400 My grandmother on my mom's side, her husband was a part of the 560 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,560 AME church. And if you ever want to go to a 561 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,480 church where like just the the music is really, really good and 562 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,080 like the people running up and down the aisles and AME 563 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,680 churches. I've never heard of an AME 564 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:54,680 church. Yeah, yeah. 565 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,320 So the African Episcopal, Methodist Episcopal Church is, 566 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:04,600 it is one of the more memorable experiences of my church 567 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,800 upbringing because it was just so the they had a live drummer, 568 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,760 they had a live guitar player, everyone was singing like they 569 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,160 had. It was incredible from a 570 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,840 performance perspective. Sounds very celebratory. 571 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:23,120 It was it, you know the AME church is very much tied to this 572 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,920 period of time, though, right? Like you're talking about people 573 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,400 who are coming out of slavery and, and slave songs. 574 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,120 You know, the, the whole thing, like that whole period of time 575 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,360 is really encapsulated the AME church where it's like, hey, the 576 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,720 Lord is going to save us and we're going to do our very best 577 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,800 to praise the Lord. Hell yeah. 578 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,920 I don't necessarily agree with the the church's stances on much 579 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,440 of anything, but if you want to go see a really good live show, 580 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,680 go to an AME church. Thanks for that hot tail. 581 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:58,040 But in 1890, the Second Moral Act required states to establish 582 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,120 or provide land grants to create separate colleges for black 583 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,480 people in admission to existing institutions was not offered, 584 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,480 leading to the expansion of black colleges and universities 585 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,600 throughout the Southern states. There are lots of incredible 586 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,160 black institutions all throughout the South. 587 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,320 Fucking think about Maryland. We've got Morgan, we've got 588 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,560 Coppin. Right, like. 589 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,800 Right up the road from each other. 590 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,040 Yeah, like, you've got these incredible institutions. 591 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,520 Bowie State. Bowie State. 592 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,760 I mean, there are plenty of them. 593 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,880 I'm forgetting Howard. Yep, Yep. 594 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000 In DCI. Mean so you've got all these 595 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,480 incredible institutions and and you know they're leading to the 596 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,040 expansion of black colleges throughout the southern states. 597 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,360 The these institutions became places not only of self 598 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,400 discovery and enlightenment, but places that helped define what 599 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,400 it meant to have and pursue freedom. 600 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:54,280 And that's an incredibly moving part of this story for me. 601 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,960 When I was, you know, going back and I was thinking about my 602 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,800 family's experiences and thinking about the people who 603 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,360 came before them. And just to think about my my 604 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,080 grandmother comes from my great grandmother comes from Opelika, 605 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,159 which is just outside of Auburn, but she comes from a slave 606 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,600 family. And to think like she was the 607 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,840 one who could not read. She could not read from my 608 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,040 understanding at least, right? Maybe she could read, but like 609 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,679 I, I didn't know her to be a learned person. 610 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,960 And from my understanding, my great grandfather on my mom, my 611 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,280 grandmother's side was, he was a laborer. 612 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560 Like that's what he did. He, he picked up shovels, he 613 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:39,840 moved dirt around, you know, to, to go from that place to having 614 00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:44,280 the opportunity to, to, to go to university and like to have like 615 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,400 what looks like on paper at least, equality. 616 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,920 Oh my God, like how? How? 617 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,400 Like how? That is generational wealth 618 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,600 right there. Yeah, yeah. 619 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,639 So when you, I don't know, don't enslave people, they can do good 620 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,560 things. As it turns, they are just as 621 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,800 capable as anyone else, as it turns out. 622 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,280 Yes and Speaking of anyone who's just as capable as anybody else, 623 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,800 Booker T Washington, the founder of the Tuskegee University, 624 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,400 describe the establishment of the first goals for black adults 625 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,320 and children as an act of quote lifting the veil of ignorance 626 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,440 from recently free communities who sought to receive the 627 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,280 education that had been barred from them during slavery and 628 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,480 entered to a whole new class of paid laborers. 629 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,160 Booker T Washington said this. If you can't read, it's going to 630 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:37,000 be hard to realize dreams and that that's hard to to they 631 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,920 conceptualize like you and I grew up in a world where reading 632 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,120 is a default. It's a default setting, but it's 633 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,960 a default setting for many people in the 21st. 634 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,560 Century it was always available, right? 635 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,840 We never had. We never had to question it, 636 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,920 not. Once and there are people who 637 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,240 who we're going to talk about here in a little bit who grew up 638 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:04,120 in a time where black people reading was seen as a danger. 639 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,960 And that's really, really scary because the folks like Caroline 640 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,960 Levitt might want to see that return. 641 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,600 How about that? So one of the, one of the dreams 642 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,640 that, that, that that sits in the hearts of many black 643 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,920 Americans during this period of time after General Granger comes 644 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,440 to town and, and, and says, hey, look, you're all free. 645 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,040 Now is, is this period of time where they are trying to reach 646 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,240 out to find their family members who have been sold or kidnapped 647 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:39,040 during a period of legal enslavement in the United 648 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,720 States. Reading would be critical to 649 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:45,600 communicating with the the newly created Friedman's Bureau. 650 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,240 The Bureau was created by Congress in 1865 to assist in 651 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:53,040 the political and social reconstruction of post war 652 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,960 southern States and to help formally enslaved African 653 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,800 Americans transition from slavery to freedom and 654 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,880 citizenship. In the process, the Bureau 655 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,080 created millions of records that contain the names and 656 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,560 information of hundreds of thousands of people across the 657 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,600 United States, including including formerly freed, sorry, 658 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,920 formerly enslaved African Americans and those who were 659 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,200 free before the Civil War, white Southerners, Northern educators, 660 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:24,200 elected officials and more. Now, I reached out to my dad a 661 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,560 couple days ago and I was like, hey, give me great grandma. 662 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,200 Great. Give me great grandma's surname 663 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:37,840 on both sides of the family, and I was able to locate like 10's 664 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,760 and thousands of records associated with those last 665 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,400 names. To be fair, I did not go through 666 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,600 every one of them. It's a lot of work, but it is an 667 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:53,280 incredible critical log of what our history is right. 668 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,280 And if you think about it like the Smithsonian is one of those 669 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,280 places in American culture where it's not very political, right? 670 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,760 Like when you think about the Smithsonian, you think about the 671 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,640 Natural History Museum, you think about all the museums that 672 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,120 are downtown in DC, right? And if you are. 673 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,520 Free, by the way. Free for all of us because we 674 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,600 pay taxes. And it turns out, folks, that 675 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,120 when you pay your taxes, they go towards good things. 676 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,680 But it's important for our country to recognize that this 677 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,880 indeed happened, right? Like that's why these records 678 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,760 exist. And as a result, a significant 679 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,440 part of our population can find out where they came from. 680 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,680 Well, at least here in the United States, right? 681 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,360 Like we can now know all right, well, hey, look, my great 682 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,320 grandmother came from OPA. Like there are only four 683 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,680 plantations in that immediate area. 684 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,480 So let's go ahead and like start to like circle in on that one 685 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,560 thing, right? But it's incredibly powerful 686 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,920 thing to see your family history show up, right? 687 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,120 Like there are lots of I was listening to a a podcast where 688 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,000 there's a a gentleman who was saying white folks, there are 689 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,120 some white folks who can go all the way back to the Township 690 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,960 that their families from black folks. 691 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,040 Unfortunately, in the United States, many of us, myself 692 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,160 included, can only go back to what farm we come from. 693 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:23,880 We don't know where we come from. 694 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,480 Many of us, a majority of us don't know. 695 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,360 And to at least have that one little piece of a record is 696 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,000 really important. And, you know, Juneteenth 697 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,080 becomes a holiday in our current environment in 2021, but under 698 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,680 the Biden administration and making it the first national 699 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,880 holiday that was created since Martin Luther King Junior Day in 700 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,160 1983. In a weird twist. 701 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:56,320 And, and we're about to take a turn to the left, so buckle up. 702 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,600 In a weird twist though, Opal Lee, who's considered to be the 703 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:07,120 grandmother of Juneteenth, walked from Fort Worth, TX to 704 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:12,920 Washington, DC at the age of 89. She walked the entire distance 705 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,440 at 89 years old to convince then president President Obama to 706 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,080 make it her federal holiday. Sadly, America's youngest 707 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,200 national holiday is now caught up though in the crossfires of 708 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,920 raging culture war. Trump has done his best recently 709 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,800 to end diversity, equity, inclusion programs and to end 710 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,000 funding that goes towards them, including the very fucking 711 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,360 funding that goes towards the Smithsonian holding the fucking 712 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:47,520 records of the Freeman's Bureau. It goes towards that. 713 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,680 That federal funding goes towards more than just Black 714 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,560 History Month, more than just Juneteenth, but Pride Month, 715 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,160 environmental justice agendas, Women's History Month, you know, 716 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,960 any program that might go towards providing assistance 717 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,440 towards communities that have been largely ignored or 718 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,480 intentionally excluded in this country. 719 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,680 Why do we think that in more recent years in our existence 720 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,200 here on Earth for the past 40 years? 721 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,160 Whoops. For the past 40 years, we've 722 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,240 been alive, right? And in our lifetime we have seen 723 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:28,440 an insurgence of being taught that these things, these people, 724 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,360 these groups are important. We've seen more inclusion, we've 725 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,440 seen more diversity. We've seen more equity across 726 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,520 groups in our lifetime. We are also watching it be 727 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,400 stripped away in our lifetime, in our very short, still very 728 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,520 young and youthful lifetime. In a blip in blip of time, 729 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,280 right? This is fucking wild. 730 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,880 Yeah, You're seeing something that back in the 1800s that 731 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,320 started, they're trying to do their very best to strip funding 732 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,280 from because the Smithsonian is participating in, quote, DEI 733 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,840 practices by just keeping records. 734 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,240 Of real people whose lives exist and whose families still exist, 735 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,480 who are equally as qualified as everyone. 736 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,040 Else just like the librarian who was fired. 737 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,240 Carla Hayden say her name. Carla Hayden. 738 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,160 Carla Hayden. Respect. 739 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,880 Shout out Carla Hayden. Big ups to Carla. 740 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,720 But the Trump administration has been talking about DEI and quote 741 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:33,000 woke culture as a hindrance to the American culture as it's 742 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,880 been called. And many times you hear Trump 743 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,360 and and the ones who are like him say things like it's a mind 744 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,640 virus, right? Like I've heard Elon Musk say 745 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,000 it. Woke mind virus, yes. 746 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,840 I've, I've heard that countless amount of times at this point, 747 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,880 but you know, can I ask you just for one second, if you could, to 748 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,160 put on your white supremacist hat? 749 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,640 No, you cannot. I'm sorry all. 750 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,680 Right. Well, let's just have a 751 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,840 discussion about this then. What does it mean to be like, 752 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,760 what does DEI mean? What does woke mean in the mind 753 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,640 of a white supremacist? Like, what does that like? 754 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,560 Like if we were both to like, go to a different world in our 755 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,280 minds. Like what? 756 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,680 Does that look like it's a threat? 757 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,200 What do you mean? It's a threat. 758 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,040 They are threatened to what? There is no other explanation 759 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:31,240 for why white supremacy exists other than fragile white men who 760 00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:34,680 feel like no one can be above me. 761 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,400 Like what? About. 762 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,680 But what about the likes of like a Caroline Levitt though? 763 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,480 Right? Like who? 764 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,360 I don't know that fully buy into this though. 765 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,400 You know what I don't? Know that she has freaking. 766 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,520 People that you know, that I know who are white women who buy 767 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,200 into this kind of shit, it's not just white men like let's, let's 768 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,800 well. Sure, I trigger warning. 769 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,600 Yeah, we do know women who participate in this as well. 770 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,480 Yeah. I mean, like, we know, we know 771 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,800 that in in the most recent election that a majority of 772 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,120 black men, a majority of Hispanic men all went towards 773 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,240 the right. Like what is it? 774 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,480 Majority of black men. I'm sorry, a majority of white 775 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,320 men and you saw in a gigantic shift. 776 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,720 A big shift in Hispanic men, but not majority black men, no. 777 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,920 Yeah, I apologize for for the for the language. 778 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,600 Yeah, you're right. Flying off the handle over 779 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,160 there. Get it together. 780 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,240 But my question then is like, all right. 781 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,120 I can't think from the mindset of a white supremacist, but this 782 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:41,880 is, you know how there's 4 main emotions? 783 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,040 Mad, mad, sad, glad and scared. This is scared. 784 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:52,320 That's what fuels all of this. So being scared that someone 785 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,680 other than a white person is going to take your job or fly 786 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,000 your plane or do this or do that, that's fear. 787 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,280 That's scared. That is that's reptilian brain. 788 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,160 And you know what, those of us who have arrived in our emotions 789 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,320 and can understand that it is healthy for humans to have 790 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:19,280 differences between one another. We are in our frontal lobe 791 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,640 brain. We are we are thinking 792 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,760 critically and we are not living in fight or flight or reptilian 793 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,680 brain. And sorry to bring brain into 794 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,440 it, but. Hashtag all brains matter. 795 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,560 All brains matter, and you know, some people are not fully using 796 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,400 theirs. But when you are fully using 797 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,720 your brain and you are fully living your life, you're not 798 00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:45,880 feeling as angry as these people are and you're not hating on 799 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,560 large groups of people and you're not white supremacists. 800 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,360 I mean, like, I this isn't woke. This is called compassion and 801 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,360 humanity. And many of us are living in 802 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,240 this world. And another reason not to keep 803 00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:02,920 throwing her under the bus that I really dislike Caroline 804 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,720 Leavitt is that she tells lies also about how many people in 805 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:07,720 this country actually voted for Donald Trump. 806 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:10,880 Because if you want to go down a rabbit hole with me tonight, 807 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,120 let's talk about how I don't think that many people actually 808 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,600 voted for this, to be honest. Like. 809 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,760 You're full of. Conspiracy it is. 810 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,320 It is reeking of conspiracy, like the the way that like all 811 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,400 those swing states, we can get into that on another episode. 812 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,880 But I'm just making a plug for it back on track. 813 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,360 Back on track, I think, you know, one of the things that 814 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,280 came to my mind when I was writing this up and it was like, 815 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,720 Oh my gosh, like, what? What does it look like to come 816 00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:43,440 from like an exclusively white space, right? 817 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:51,760 And to think about these issues in this way, I can't help but to 818 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:57,680 think that if you are looking at the Trump, the Trump 819 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,520 Organization, the Trump administration and their desire 820 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:07,960 and anyone who's around the Trump orbit to eliminate DEI 821 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:14,480 programs and initiatives, you know, just general, you know, 822 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,400 good heartedness and like being a good person. 823 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,320 I can't help but to think about it through the lens of like, 824 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,200 we're just trying to erase your history. 825 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,520 Yeah, we want to scrub it clean and make it white. 826 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,760 I mean, we're going. To white literally whitewash as 827 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,720 much as we can. Yeah, that's all I can think 828 00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:31,600 about. It's. 829 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,080 Because we're afraid it's. Believable. 830 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,720 Of the demographic shift that's coming. 831 00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:41,440 Diversity, diversity is a threat, except it's all so much 832 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,880 hypocrisy because y'all fucking came here on a boat. 833 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:47,760 None of you are from here. Like it's just and but I saw OK, 834 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,920 so like all of this is is making me recall and I hate when I 835 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,000 don't have something in front of me and I'm trying to recall it. 836 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,880 But like this mean it's like, you know, it says all of you who 837 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,560 basically these people that we're talking about, but you'll 838 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,040 be the first ones like on 23andMe trying to figure out 839 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,520 like which type of immigrant you are. 840 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,920 Have you? Did you see that this week? 841 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,520 I've seen something similar to. That yeah. 842 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,200 And it's just like, but it's but that's it's so true, though. 843 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,600 Like you are like, I'm so American. 844 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,360 I'm, you know, my feet are firmly planted. 845 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,520 However, like what you mixed with, you know? 846 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:25,640 Oh, you're French? Cannot wait to submit that DNA. 847 00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:28,200 Right. Yeah, No, you know, actually 848 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,080 very funny enough, I I was looking on blue sky and there 849 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,680 was a video that was posted of a Native American activist group 850 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,800 that I follow and they got arrest, not arrest. 851 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,320 They were pulled over. I think it was in Arizona or New 852 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,680 Mexico, and the police pulled them over. 853 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,560 They were ICE agents and there was two women in the car and the 854 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,160 driver was being very polite, doing like the thing that you're 855 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,400 supposed to do. Anyone who's ever been pulled 856 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,360 over by the police, who's any person of color, knows this. 857 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,440 Like Keep. Your head down. 858 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:01,960 Keep your head down. Do what they say. 859 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,400 You have your license, your registration out immediately, 860 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,600 Bop bop, bop, you're ready to go. 861 00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:10,840 And the passenger start recording the conversation. 862 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,920 And they were like, are you guys American? 863 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,840 And they were like, are you American? 864 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,680 Because we were here fucking first. 865 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,720 Like who's actually American? We're Native American. 866 00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:22,360 And they gave them like their Native American like paperwork. 867 00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:24,120 And then they were like, oh, go on your way. 868 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,040 And they were like the entire time. 869 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,320 This woman is berating these ICE officers. 870 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,680 Rightfully fucking so. Were they even in uniform or 871 00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:35,800 were they just the the unmarked kind as I like to call them? 872 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,960 We let's put a pin in that like we. 873 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,480 Another episode there's. There's so much, there's so much 874 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,440 material there. But yeah, I, I, I just 875 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,400 reflecting back on what you were saying about like real Americans 876 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,280 coming in on a boat, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like. 877 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,120 That's interesting. There's just a lot of like that 878 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,240 material there. And what I think that to me at 879 00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:00,200 least says is like, all right, let's stop thinking about who 880 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,200 was first. And let's just all consider each 881 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,920 other to be like, I don't know, human beings who deserve fucking 882 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,360 respect because we're here. And what are you going to do? 883 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,480 Like, are you going to arrest everybody and throw them out of 884 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,120 the country until the country is just exclusively white? 885 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,200 We are all like on, we are all on stolen land, right? 886 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,560 But like, OK, like we can do land considerations and things 887 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,720 like that, like this belong to this Susquehanna. 888 00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:26,160 And like I fully acknowledge that piece of it. 889 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,680 But like, even if we're to just say like, this is the 21st 890 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,440 century. Now that we're here, we're here. 891 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,840 Right, let's just accept the fact that. 892 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,880 The whole point, the whole point is to live together. 893 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,280 The whole point, the whole point is the melting pot. 894 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,160 The whole point is diversity, equity and inclusion. 895 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,960 It always has been. That was the founding fathers 896 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:44,840 vision. Sort of. 897 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,520 OK, go that far, but OK, well, you know. 898 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,480 But you know, I, I, I think it, it should be noted as a result 899 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,680 of all these federal actions, like the, like the things that 900 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,160 Caroline Leavitt are saying, the things that Trump has been 901 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,800 saying this entire time about getting rid of DEIJE Vance, 902 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:08,320 talking about white replacement. You know, Thomas Rousseau of, of 903 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,640 Patriot Front, who talks about having an America for Americans. 904 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,680 You've got, you know, countless others that we've talked about 905 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,200 this podcast. It should be, it should be 906 00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:22,680 noted, companies that once saw diversity, equity, inclusion as 907 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,640 righteous causes have dropped the mask now and have dropped 908 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,800 their DEI initiatives with their within their organizations. 909 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,040 These are not private firms. These are companies that are 910 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,800 traded publicly on the New York Stock Exchange. 911 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,240 I'm going to read off a couple for you real quick. 912 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,280 Pepsi, Home Depot, Target, Google, Microsoft, Ford, John 913 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,280 Deere, Meta, Amazon, Tesla and unfortunately, because they're 914 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,320 tied to federal funding, the National Endowment for the Arts. 915 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,320 God damn it. Comply or we're going to sick 916 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,400 our dogs after you, Home Depot. We're going to make sure that 917 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:05,080 anybody who doesn't appreciate diversity, equity, inclusion is 918 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,680 going to go after you. And that's a really fucking 919 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,200 shameful place to be in this country in the 21st century. 920 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:12,880 And. If you choose not to spend your 921 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,480 money at those places, fucking great job folks. 922 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,920 That's what I was going to comment on, which is that I 923 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,320 think a lot of times in all of this overwhelm with everything 924 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,960 that happens and all of these threats of things being stripped 925 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:31,040 from us that we fought so hard as a people to like make a 926 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,760 thing. You know, I, I know I will, I 927 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,080 will fight my ass off to keep Juneteenth a federal holiday, to 928 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,800 keep Black History Month, to keep Pride month, to keep 929 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,600 Women's History Month, Men's History Month, mental health 930 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,560 awareness month, all of the fucking months. 931 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,600 Like that's important and it. Is it's because representation 932 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,120 matters? Absolutely. 933 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,440 Representation matters. Diversity matters. 934 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,800 It all of it. All of it matters. 935 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,120 Before we take another break, many June tea celebrations are 936 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,200 being cancelled all around our country right now, and for many 937 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,720 reasons. It's not just because of racism, 938 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,880 although you know you could. You could. 939 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:11,040 A lot because racism. A lot of it. 940 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,720 Most of it, actually, probably all of it. 941 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,000 A large reason though, right now is due to a lack of funding, but 942 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,960 also fear of right wing retaliation, specifically in 943 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,800 Bend, OR where community organizers have cancelled this 944 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,720 year's celebration due to threats that are racially 945 00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:32,320 motivated. There are organizations, and we 946 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,120 talked about this in our earlier series, our first series that we 947 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:40,000 did on the Pacific Northwest and racism out there. 948 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,360 But the Pacific Northwest is a bastion for white supremacy. 949 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:49,760 And in Bend, OR there are outsider organizations, Patriot 950 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,760 Front as being one of them, who will have already said, hey, if 951 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,080 you celebrate Juneteenth, we're coming to your town. 952 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,480 And so it's really, really disheartening to hear things 953 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,400 like that, right? But in West Virginia, closer to 954 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,400 home, the governor refuses to give employees paid days off for 955 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,520 this federal holiday because of budget constraints. 956 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:16,600 I would argue that private firms and state governments and, you 957 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,160 know, even local governments are having to make hard decisions. 958 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:24,800 Or it's maybe it's an easier explanation, maybe for them 959 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,840 cutting funding to something that they don't see as valuable, 960 00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:31,160 like initiatives for celebrating DEI programs. 961 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,200 They don't want to put money towards that and support a 962 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,920 program that the country that the president has said is 963 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,880 ruining our country to extend that further. 964 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:49,680 Blacks, Browns, women, gays, they're ruining our country and 965 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,800 we shouldn't recognize them by putting any money towards 966 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,880 something that might ruin our country. 967 00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:01,640 According to yeah, evangelical Christian white nationalists. 968 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,080 Yeah, and I think the Trump administration falls firmly 969 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,320 within that, within that category at this point. 970 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,200 Recall this, though, when Trump got elected, they destroyed the 971 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:18,440 former Black Lives Plaza St. mural just two blocks N through 972 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,280 his EO. They're looking to rewrite our 973 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,720 history, not acknowledge those who suffered or those who have 974 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,480 of those communities that have been seen as equals in the eyes 975 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,160 of the law. This is a systematic breakdown 976 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,600 of our country's history, the people who inhabit our country. 977 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:45,360 And to see, even if it's just a symbol today, they renamed all 978 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:50,280 of the former Confederate Army bases back to from their 979 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,160 reformed name back to their former names. 980 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,880 Oh, fun. So they did that as of today. 981 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,720 So Fort Hood, who was celebrating A Confederate 982 00:55:59,720 --> 00:56:04,640 soldier, a Confederate general, someone who betrayed his 983 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:11,600 country's oath, Fort Polk, Fort AP Hill, all these, all these 984 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,280 forts and bases around the country are being renamed back 985 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,520 to their former glory, so to speak. 986 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:23,720 And while there's a law in place by Congress that you cannot name 987 00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:27,040 anything after a Confederate general or a Confederate officer 988 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,880 or anything like that, they are finding people with the same 989 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,760 last name and just renaming it after them. 990 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,760 You if do you know what I'm saying? 991 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:41,120 Like if your last name is Polk, well she fought in the Army at 992 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,320 on the island of Iwo Jima and earned a Silver Star versus A4 993 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:51,840 star Purple Heart awardee. They, so they renamed, just as a 994 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,280 real quick example, they renamed Fort Hood back to from Fort 995 00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:00,680 Cavazos back to Fort Hood, even though the one guy who they 996 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:05,040 named it after, they renamed it after in Cavazos was a Purple 997 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,560 Heart awardee, I think. And also was caught behind enemy 998 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,560 lines and fought by himself. And like was like fighting off 999 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:17,000 all these people and, and they decided that that wasn't good 1000 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,600 enough, that sacrifice for his country wasn't good enough. 1001 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,840 If sacrifices don't matter, like apparently not, lives don't 1002 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:27,880 matter. Apparently not. 1003 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,640 Not in any regard. Not in the military, not in not 1004 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,480 with regards to healthcare, not with regards to FEMA. 1005 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,080 I mean, don't get me started. But they want us all dead. 1006 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,960 Yeah, and and you shouldn't be surprised because the cruelty. 1007 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,560 I mean the point. I mean the. 1008 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,400 Cruelty's the point, right? Like that's, that is the whole 1009 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:50,800 entire point behind all this is that it is cruelty towards our 1010 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,600 sensibilities, cruelty towards our bodies, cruelty towards our 1011 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,600 minds. That is what this is about. 1012 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,560 Well, let me take it a step further. 1013 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,640 Not to go off the rails completely, but cruelty is where 1014 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,160 it begins, right? Treat the people cruelly and 1015 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,880 then what happens to the people then? 1016 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,360 Then they turn on each other. And we've already started to see 1017 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,440 that happen over the past week as as we've heard in the 1018 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,760 previous part of the week's episode of this podcast, you 1019 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,800 know, like a full recap of of the events that occurred that 1020 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,600 claimed the lives of two and almost. 1021 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,480 Four in Minnesota. They killed. 1022 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,240 He killed two more people or injured 2 more people. 1023 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,400 It did well, last I heard they were still in critical condition 1024 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,560 but stable. But but yes, well. 1025 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,320 And if we count the dog Gilbert, is that his name? 1026 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,360 Gilbert I. Don't remember the dog's name? 1027 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:40,800 That was that. Yeah. 1028 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,120 OK, well, here we are, you know, like we're already there. 1029 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,520 We're already at that point where you have the people 1030 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,520 turning on the people. You have the Republicans turning 1031 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,160 on the Democrats. And you hear this very coded 1032 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,320 language, but it's also very plain language. 1033 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,280 Caroline Levitt is guilty of it. She does blame the Democrats. 1034 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,640 She blames the left. She like this is the people 1035 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,400 turning the people against the people. 1036 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,960 Donald Trump junior said something earlier today. 1037 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:08,920 I don't know if you saw this or not, but they. 1038 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,520 I did not. They launched a Trump phone 1039 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,080 company. Oh, I thought that was a joke. 1040 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,600 Oh, no, it's not. It's very real. 1041 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,520 And there was an interview that they were doing with Don Junior 1042 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,840 where they were talking about they got the shooter in 1043 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,160 Minnesota and he was like, oh, well, he was a Democrat 1044 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,520 operative and he was like, well, no, he voted for your father. 1045 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,160 He's like, I don't believe that until I see it. 1046 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:33,160 You can tell them truth to their face, supported, and they don't 1047 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,560 care. They just don't care. 1048 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:40,160 Well, did you also see that Donald Trump was very blatantly 1049 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,760 like refusing to to telephone Tim Walz? 1050 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,760 Yeah, to extend because. It's not going to be any good. 1051 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:46,840 He's what he said I think, right. 1052 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,800 He said. He said why would I? 1053 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,960 I could be nice, but why would I be nice to him? 1054 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,040 He's basically like, he's crazy, he's off the rails. 1055 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,160 Like why would I call him? If if, if he doesn't like me, 1056 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,200 why would I call him? That's yeah, this is a temper 1057 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,280 tantrum like like this is. He's in a He's in a grown adult 1058 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:04,600 child. He is. 1059 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:09,560 I mean, he's, but I mean, again, that that reptilian brain like, 1060 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,840 and I, I think that that's so freeing for me to understand as 1061 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,000 a human being that oh, he hasn't arrived in anywhere past like 1062 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,800 the brain stem part of his brain. 1063 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,720 He is, he is completely reactive. 1064 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,040 He is operating in fight or flight at all moments. 1065 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,880 Like this man is completely traumatized and he is running 1066 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,080 our country and he's fully unhinged. 1067 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,080 He's at this point possibly senile, but let's continue to 1068 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,280 let him make calls about like what's best. 1069 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:43,040 And but these, these worshippers that follow him around. 1070 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,520 I, I, I know that like, you know, I don't want to get off 1071 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,800 topic, but. I think we've already done that. 1072 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,120 I you know, it, it just it all it all ties in with like trying 1073 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,320 to understand you. You asked the question actually 1074 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,720 about the white supremacist point of view. 1075 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,920 Like, I think you have to get inside the mind of Donald Trump 1076 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,680 and the people who who would follow you've. 1077 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,160 Got to say, you've got to say whites matter. 1078 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,920 Blacks don't. They say it, but I want to take 1079 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,880 a real quick break when we come back. 1080 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,520 I actually want to close the show out with some hope and good 1081 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,600 vibes because I feel like we've we've, we've, we've sat in the 1082 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,560 bathwater for a long enough at this point. 1083 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,600 Dirty, dirty bathwater. Yeah, I'm going to come back and 1084 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,320 I want to talk about celebrating us people, the people who fought 1085 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,920 for freedom, equality, equity under the law, and those of us 1086 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,760 who are continuing to do that yeoman's work today, pulling the 1087 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:35,400 equality plow further and further down, you know, our our 1088 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,920 own fields, so to speak. But when we come back, we're 1089 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,720 going to talk about a beautiful woman by the name of Opal Lee. 1090 01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:56,720 So we started our segment on Juneteenth discussing a woman by 1091 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,080 the name of Opal Lee, the grandmother of Juneteenth. 1092 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:04,680 Well, Miss Opal is still alive at 97 fucking years old. 1093 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,240 Hell yeah. And she wrote Trump earlier this 1094 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,400 year to discuss, to explain to him why his executive order 1095 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,600 wasn't good for the country. And I'd like to read it for you 1096 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:15,600 if I could. Please do. 1097 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,760 I'm going to cry during this, by the way, because this is this is 1098 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,040 absolutely beautiful. And I'm already starting up. 1099 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,280 Oh boy. Dear President Donald Trump, 1100 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,960 today is your Inauguration day and also the day for honoring 1101 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,280 the legacy of Doctor Martin Luther King Junior and his 1102 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:36,280 stance for unity and hope. As a lifelong educator, I know 1103 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,440 what the we teach people today shapes tomorrow. 1104 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,960 So if people can be taught to hate, they can also be taught to 1105 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:48,400 love. I've spent nearly a century 1106 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:51,600 working for human dignity and the simple right to enjoy. 1107 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,760 I've spent nearly a century working for human dignity and 1108 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,640 the civil right to enjoy the freedom of being an American. 1109 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,480 Lately, I've walked for miles in support of that freedom, not 1110 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,160 just for one, but for all. I found this promise of freedom 1111 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,880 is only as strong as those who choose to uphold it. 1112 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:17,040 The question is, will you rise to the occasion, or will you 1113 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,760 stand still as history passes you by? 1114 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:25,160 I've learned that courage is the only thing that can turn hope 1115 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,240 into action. Leadership is more than policy, 1116 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:32,200 it is example. Division is an easy choice. 1117 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:37,240 Unity is the courageous one. It takes leaders like you to 1118 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,120 choose that path, even if it's hard. 1119 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,640 You have that power to teach us all what is possible. 1120 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,720 When service replaces spectacle and humanity takes center stage. 1121 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,760 Let your legacy, one that lifts us, not one that weighs us down. 1122 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:56,080 The road to true freedom is long, but I've walked my whole 1123 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,960 life. Will you walk with me? 1124 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,880 Name the place, name the time, and I'll meet you there. 1125 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:07,000 Miss Opal is a beautiful soul, an advocate, and an agent for 1126 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:11,840 real change, positive change. But it would not surprise you, 1127 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,400 though, to find out that Donald Trump decided to not meet with 1128 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,760 her and walk with her. A woman who has walked her 1129 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:25,840 entire life for change, to bring us forward, to take us forward. 1130 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:33,720 A man who is so stubborn and so filled with his own ego that he 1131 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:40,400 cannot find it within himself to cross the barrier between his 1132 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:48,120 ego and being with people. I'd like to give my final 1133 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,320 thoughts and I want to pass it over to you, Judy, to close the 1134 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:54,280 show out. There are lots of really 1135 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,440 incredible people doing many incredible things to celebrate 1136 01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,400 Juneteenth and Pride Month and also Caribbean American History 1137 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,000 or Heritage Month. But however you celebrate, 1138 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,600 whether that's how to click out, listening to Motown's Best, 1139 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,160 celebrating Pride while listening to Motown's Best, or 1140 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,560 taking a personal day, closing your shades, putting on some 1141 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,720 white noise and forgetting that the sun exists for a day while 1142 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,840 listening to Motown's best, of course, take a moment to think 1143 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,360 about just how vibrant our history is. 1144 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,560 Think about Opal. Think about Miss Opal. 1145 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:32,600 She is a she's a Sentinel in our history. 1146 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,920 There are people who exist in our history. 1147 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,920 I'm thinking about maybe like the of the likes of Harvey Milk, 1148 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:44,120 an incredible activist for the gay community in San Francisco 1149 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:49,280 who were they are renaming the boat they named after him so 1150 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:53,680 that way they could get rid of DEI during Pride month. 1151 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:59,200 They did it during Pride month just to rub the salt in the 1152 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:03,600 wound some more. They are doing their very best, 1153 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:10,080 their level best to strip our country, our history books, our 1154 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:17,200 actual physical history from us. What I plan on doing this 1155 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,040 Juneteenth is reflecting on what this country can do. 1156 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:24,160 When good hearted men and women decide that enough is enough, 1157 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:30,560 you know it's time for change. And we saw that in LA this past 1158 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:35,680 week. We saw it the solidarity in 1159 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,880 Minnesota. We've seen solidarity all across 1160 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,800 this country with record setting protest numbers, people who are 1161 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,640 stepping outside of their comfort zone to say, I've had 1162 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:51,480 enough of this. We have to continue to do that. 1163 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,880 And on this Juneteenth, it's not just about black Americans as 1164 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,560 much as it is about our history, our black history. 1165 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,320 It is also about our history as Americans. 1166 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:07,360 If you cannot see yourself in that, I ask you to dig a little 1167 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:12,520 deeper because your history is is wrapped up in, in, in this 1168 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,560 history. Our history as black Americans 1169 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,320 is wrapped up in the nation's history and vice versa. 1170 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:23,680 So Judy, I'm going to toss it over to you to close this out. 1171 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,880 I'm sorry. I said, Lord, that was a, that 1172 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:29,720 was a. Emotional Roller. 1173 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,360 Coaster We're just playing volleyball with crying back and 1174 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,000 forth at the table. Roller coaster I'm. 1175 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:35,520 Sorry. Yeah, it was. 1176 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,760 Thank you for that. Well, in the true spirit of the 1177 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:47,080 feelings and the emotions, what I always think is what can I do? 1178 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,200 You know, like that's kind of where I begin. 1179 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,640 And when it comes to things like Black History Month, Juneteenth, 1180 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,840 literally every fucking day, I can continue to show up for the 1181 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:02,080 people of color in my life and lift them up to be the equals 1182 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,760 that they are. And I can do the work to 1183 01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,800 deconstruct what has been programmed in me. 1184 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,760 Simply put, as a white person, that is the work that I can 1185 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,680 actively do every day is to deep deconstruct and deprogram. 1186 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:24,040 So I, I enjoyed this beautiful history lesson. 1187 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:31,160 It, it's fun because we all all week at work, we've done Juteep 1188 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:32,640 lunches. Yes. 1189 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,359 And what that looks like is that we have catering from a local 1190 01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,319 black-owned restaurant with that's, you know, specializes in 1191 01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:44,760 like soul food, like Juneteenth type celebrations, black food. 1192 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,600 Oh my God, so good. So, you know, we had the, we had 1193 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,240 the baked salmon, we had the greens, we had the Mac and 1194 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,359 cheese, we had the cornbread, the banana pudding, like you 1195 01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:56,359 name it. There was fried chicken too. 1196 01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:58,920 Was there Mac and cheese? Oh yes, of course. 1197 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,399 Now let me ask you a question on the Mac and cheese front though. 1198 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,000 Was it? Could you taste the butter or 1199 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,439 could you not taste the butter? You could. 1200 01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:08,040 You couldn't taste the butter. Actually, it was good. 1201 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:11,720 Mac and cheese it was. Was it like, was it like my 1202 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,439 level Mac and cheese? It was. 1203 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,319 Or was it just different? I'm I'm going to give it the 1204 01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:21,359 shouts it deserves, but I also. Have you had better Mac and 1205 01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:22,279 cheese? Of course. 1206 01:09:22,399 --> 01:09:24,279 Yeah. I mean, yours is better, but it 1207 01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:26,520 wasn't. It was like it was more, it was 1208 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,760 OK. It was more Velveeta quality, 1209 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,880 but I don't think it was Velveeta kind of thing. 1210 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,880 Yeah. Like yours is more like chunky 1211 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,520 authentic. Like you know the shredded 1212 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,120 cheese is in there. No shredded cheese could be 1213 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,120 found in this SO. Black Mac and cheese. 1214 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,840 OK, so. Please, black cheese. 1215 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,720 But, you know, what was fun was sitting amongst my colleagues, 1216 01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:49,800 you know, of all backgrounds, just kind of honoring like why 1217 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,760 we do this. And we don't, in fact, we, we 1218 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:59,480 don't get all the federal holidays off, but but we, but we 1219 01:09:59,480 --> 01:10:01,080 find a way to. Yeah. 1220 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,280 And, you know, like, that's unique to my workplace and not, 1221 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:05,760 you know. Everywhere else. 1222 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:10,000 Most, most places do honor it and, and it is just as recent as 1223 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,200 20/21 that that became a federal holiday. 1224 01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,560 You know, so like what's important to do is to remember 1225 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,240 the reason why this was made a federal holiday and what people 1226 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:22,160 sacrifices led to in order to get this acknowledged and and 1227 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,800 and and recognize the privilege in just that people have to work 1228 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,120 that much harder to have their experiences acknowledged when 1229 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,920 they are not white an. 89 year old has to walk from Fort Worth 1230 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,880 to fucking DC to proven point yeah. 1231 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,280 And and more power to her. I mean, there are reasons why I 1232 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,280 say I want to live till I'm 100 and I know that that can be a 1233 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,120 lonely Rd. in some ways, but if I could dedicate my life to do 1234 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,520 this type of work, that would be pretty awesome, you know? 1235 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,520 So like, for sure, that's inspiring. 1236 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:53,040 Like I, I, I, I don't know if I have much else to say because 1237 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,560 this episode was geared towards like what it was meant for, 1238 01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:01,840 which is to recognize, like why Juneteenth has, has, has gained, 1239 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,840 you know, the, the notoriety, notoriety that it has well. 1240 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,640 Yeah, I think like, you know, we can really quickly close it up 1241 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,640 and wrap it up with this. Like I knew that I didn't get 1242 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,640 told about this in middle school or high school. 1243 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,840 Absolutely not. I, I mean, like I literally part 1244 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:19,600 of the luncheon experience this week was, was trivia and and 1245 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,680 we're not going to go through the trivia because honest to 1246 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,400 God, like you're going to get all the answers right. 1247 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,560 You like you covered it in the history lesson that was this 1248 01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:30,720 episode, which is cool, But like I, I, you know, that wasn't 1249 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,440 taught. And that already tells you that 1250 01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:37,800 like we don't do enough of a, of a good job in teaching black 1251 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,040 history and in teaching like actual American, our history, 1252 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,920 American history, right, Not just the parts that that favor 1253 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,640 like white folks and like paint the country in a exactly in a 1254 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,480 comfortable light. Tell, tell the truth, tell the 1255 01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:55,320 truth, Caroline Leavitt, tell the fucking truth. 1256 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,840 Like stop telling lies that make people comfortable because we 1257 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,040 don't want to like push outside the boundaries of that comfort. 1258 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,920 I don't want to feel bad about being white when no one's asking 1259 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,080 you to feel bad about being white. 1260 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,760 We just want you to accept the fact that, yes, bad things have 1261 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:13,320 happened because this country is the way that it is. 1262 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,640 And that's not like to say that you're responsible for slavery. 1263 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:23,560 It's to say, hey, look, you had a leg up generations before this 1264 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,840 because you weren't enslaved, and that's not your fault. 1265 01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:33,080 But let's also do our very best to, like, help balance the book. 1266 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,920 But let's just do that the cut our country. 1267 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,640 By the way, the United States has never actually done what 1268 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,320 Germany has done about the Holocaust, which is to claim 1269 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:47,080 full responsibility. Nope, we're instead we're just 1270 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,600 denying that it's we're gaslighting everyone. 1271 01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,600 To say that you can fly the Confederate flag in the United 1272 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:58,280 States isn't a hate crime is a really big deal to me. 1273 01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:02,760 For me, Judy, I, I feel like we could probably go on for another 1274 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:07,040 hour and a half. But in the sake of us getting to 1275 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,760 bed and getting this little Ruby dog to bed, I think we should 1276 01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,760 probably wrap it up. So listeners, we want to thank 1277 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:15,960 you again. You're enjoying another episode 1278 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,320 at the extremes. Do subscribe, do share. 1279 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,920 It goes a long way. Of course, you can reach out to 1280 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,840 us on Blue Sky. You can check the show notes and 1281 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,200 until next week, educate. Yourself, but you got to get out 1282 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,640 of bed, out of bed, out of bed. Yes. 1283 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,760 She don't know what to do. She's got everything.