1 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,520 All right. Welcome, brothers. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,920 Welcome, Ben. It's good to be with you. 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:17,960 Appreciate all of you tuning in. This is Ian Hawks and Ben Timby 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:24,200 coming at you from the MSM studios. 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:31,120 Yo-yo, let's go. Kelowna and Austin uniting 6 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:37,200 through the virtual space to bring you a little podcast. 7 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,120 Something raw, something intimate, something that's 8 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,080 alive. Let's just see what comes 9 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,120 through. So I'd love for you to start us 10 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,200 off with a little check in Ben. What's alive and moving in your 11 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,080 life? Yeah, thanks, Hawks. 12 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,680 Thanks for leading this and initiating it. 13 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:07,960 What's a life for me right now? Is the fall season shedding? 14 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,800 I've been feeling a lot of, a lot of shedding in my life and 15 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,280 also in a lot of the men I serve and men in community, the 16 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,240 brotherhood and also in the women, my partner sisterhood and 17 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,720 the collective as within. So without. 18 00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:31,760 And you know, something I'm really celebrating is moving 19 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:42,480 through shedding with more ease, with more awareness and and less 20 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:47,120 resistance, you know? Yeah, that's what feels most 21 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:59,800 alive for me right now. Yeah, feel you, brother. 22 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,800 Thanks for your check in. I'll check in here as well. 23 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,479 This is Hawks checking in from Kelowna, BC. 24 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,400 Also feeling the season of fall. The days are getting shorter 25 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,320 here. We have a little bit of frost in 26 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,560 the morning some days and it's getting cooler and darker. 27 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,960 And I've been feeling that shedding, the contraction, I 28 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,640 would say that actually comes before the full shedding is 29 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:35,360 where I'm at right now. And there's been some shedding 30 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:41,560 in my life. As you know, Ben, my father 31 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:47,960 recently passed away and that has been a very significant 32 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:55,000 shedding, letting go and still feeling very much in the 33 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:04,160 contraction of that. And there's been an impact that 34 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,480 the inner contraction that I'm moving through is having, you 35 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,960 know, my external life. And you know, what feels 36 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:19,200 irrelevant to speak to here is how it's influenced and impacted 37 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,520 my intimate relationship with my partner. 38 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,560 And this is not new to me. I have noticed this pattern when 39 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:33,200 I'm going through something internally that so often is 40 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,400 reflected to me externally and especially by my primary mirror, 41 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:47,320 my partner, my lover. And with my dad passing away 42 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:55,240 about two, 2 1/2 months ago, I've noticed there's less energy 43 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,000 and outward exuberance coming from me. 44 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,440 And that's impacting the polarity in my relationship 45 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:12,400 because I'm not feeling the same vibrancy to step into my 46 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,959 masculine role and to step into directing and initiating 47 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:23,960 intimacy. And there's this deep feeling of 48 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:29,360 actually just really wanting to go into my feminine, go into the 49 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,800 emotional experience, go into the the darkness per SE. 50 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,360 And it's been an ongoing challenge for me to honor that 51 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:45,640 and to also bring myself to show up in my relationship in the 52 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,160 ways that I'm used to, in the ways that I know really nourish 53 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:56,240 and nurture our connection. And my partner is immensely 54 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,560 understanding and patient and compassionate. 55 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:03,000 And I know this pressure is really just coming from me. 56 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:13,960 And there's a feeling of guilt that is emerging in me around 57 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,040 letting down the relationship, letting down myself, letting 58 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,880 down my partner by not showing up in the ways that I know I 59 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:30,240 can, in the ways that I know are are true to me and so positively 60 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,040 impactful on our relationship. And then when that is thriving, 61 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,720 how much that positively impacts me and helps to lift me up. 62 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,720 And I have felt recently like I'm in this kind of negative 63 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,240 feedback loop, which means that the action or lack of action is, 64 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,560 you know, actually maybe it's a positive feedback loop where the 65 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,760 action or lack of action feeds the cycle that depletes the 66 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:02,200 capacity to create the action that that would actually bring 67 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,840 about more balance. So as I feel the inner 68 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:12,200 contraction, I'm less inclined to engage intimately. 69 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,760 And as I engage less intimately, I feel further contraction 70 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,720 within me. And it's just this like 71 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:29,000 disconnecting force at play that that I'm I'm well aware of. 72 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:36,560 And and yet I'm still humbled as I witness that and and move 73 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:41,000 through it. So that's what's alive in me 74 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:50,000 right now. Yeah, bro, I hear you in that. 75 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,920 I see you in that. I feel you in that. 76 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,240 And that runs deep in me as well. 77 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,800 So I really appreciate you bringing it forward. 78 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,240 Yeah, that loop that I can often get caught in, which is very 79 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,360 similar of yeah, just I call it like a negative manifestation 80 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,800 loop. The way it shows up for me is 81 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:23,320 more in unworthiness, fear, fear of abandonment by my partner, 82 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,960 fear of not being enough, which feels maybe similar to what 83 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,960 you're talking about. Like I'm not performing. 84 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Like if I stop bringing value, I'll no longer be loved. 85 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,040 Yeah. That one runs really deep. 86 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:48,000 And that vicious cycle that often like manifests that 87 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,080 outward reality reflecting the internal state that you're 88 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,160 talking about is I think that's that's my my deepest pain point 89 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,880 of my entire existence as far as I've experienced it on this 90 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,920 planet. Like I've gone into really, 91 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:09,440 really dark spaces allowing that that vacuum, you know, to 92 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:15,160 consume me and to, to remain powerless to it. 93 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:20,080 And yet I know even in the surrender to it, even in the 94 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,840 crumbling and disillusion, you know, if that's what's called 95 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:31,040 for. Like I've also found new life on 96 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,159 the other side, just like the seasons going into winter, the 97 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:38,440 shedding, the death and then the new budding of life in ways 98 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,720 that, yeah, it's truly such a mystery. 99 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,760 But but I do think the theme of, you know, what comes up for me 100 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,160 is the, the theme of when to surrender and let it all be 101 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:57,400 fully felt and when to command and light the fire, you know, 102 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:02,120 and, and break the pattern, break the loop and just get the 103 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,960 fuck out. And that's been an ongoing 104 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,160 lesson for me of navigating both. 105 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,160 I sometimes I think there's a way of doing both actually at 106 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,280 the same time. I'm curious if anything comes up 107 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,440 for you and that and just how you're navigating this time 108 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:26,920 yourself. Yeah, I, I hear you on that 109 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,480 contemplation around when is it time to continue to go into the 110 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,240 darkness and to feel the feelings and to wallow per SE, 111 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,760 if there's ever a time for that, I think there's mixed, mixed 112 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,520 camps on that. But certainly to feel our 113 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,200 emotions is, is valuable in my experience and understanding. 114 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:55,720 And, and then the question of at what point is has that feeling 115 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:01,360 been felt enough? And it's time to, you know, step 116 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:06,520 up and step into the responsibilities and into more 117 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,680 exuberance. And, and actually, you know, 118 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:15,080 there's a faking it to make it per SE of, of being like, all 119 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,320 right, I'm just going to put on a smile and I'm going to go into 120 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,200 my day and I'm going to get up at 5:00 AM and go to the gym 121 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,440 right away and not stay in bed a little bit longer, you know, 122 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,760 kind of stuck in that immobility. 123 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:35,640 And when is it time to, to really kick into gear and, and 124 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,640 finding that balance? And you know, for me, it's a 125 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,840 day-to-day, it fluctuates day-to-day. 126 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,200 And, and certainly over the last 2 1/2 months, speaking 127 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,880 specifically to this, to this primary contraction I've been 128 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:54,440 experiencing, it's grief comes in waves and there's big waves 129 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,200 and little waves and I feel like I'm in a bigger one right now. 130 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,440 But even amidst that, there's, there's days when it's easier 131 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:06,640 and days when it actually for sure, I know it's right to just 132 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,280 get up and get to it. And I can have a powerful day. 133 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,320 And then the next day it might be completely different. 134 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,920 And, and then there can be a confusion within me of, you 135 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,800 know, OK, is this something that I can overcome if I just do the 136 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,840 things that I did yesterday? Why is it not feeling the same? 137 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:32,120 And so that's, you know, it's just a little, a little take on 138 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,920 that. I still, you know, my sense is 139 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,440 it's a balance and there's, there's a way to honor both. 140 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,040 And, you know, one of the, one of the insights I've had is, OK, 141 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:47,480 where can I createspace create the structure for me to really 142 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:54,840 unplug and go in inwards. And then through the structuring 143 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,840 of that, allowing the, the space, the container, you know, 144 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,560 creating the masculine container for me to really go into my 145 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:06,360 feminine and honour that. And then on the other side of 146 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,160 that, create the container for me to really go into my action 147 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,360 and my doing. And, and I, I know that there's 148 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,040 more opportunity for that. Something that's come clear for 149 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,720 me as it's time for me to get back out into the Bush and 150 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,280 actually immerse myself in the container of the feminine. 151 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:29,920 By being out in nature and removing myself from technology 152 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,960 and from the workspace where it's more difficult for me to 153 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,520 really let go and unplug from the responsibilities and, and 154 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:43,600 duties that continually, you know, present themselves and can 155 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,560 be nagging at my attention, asking for my attention. 156 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:54,440 And so that's one, that's one way that I'm, that I'm moving 157 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,640 through it and, and taking action is creating the, the 158 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,320 space and the structure to really unplug and go fully into 159 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,160 that. So then I can come back on the 160 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,760 other side and be fully here and be fully in my responsibilities, 161 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:12,600 in the business, in the relationships and and in my my 162 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:21,400 purpose. Yeah, appreciate you sharing 163 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,720 those, man. I think if anyone tuning into 164 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,560 this podcast might be asking, you know, what does this have to 165 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:32,440 do with men's sexual mastery? Well, you'd mentioned in the 166 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:37,760 beginning of your check in with noticing the effect of your 167 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,240 internal state in your relationship. 168 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:45,360 And just to just to tie it in a little more context, you know 169 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,400 that how we show up in the world is how we're going to show up in 170 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,400 the bedroom. We talk about this all the time. 171 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,280 How we show up in the bedroom is how we show up in the world in 172 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,520 this line of work. It's not performative. 173 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,760 Ultimately, like your partner is going to feel everything inside 174 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,840 of you. You know, your your partner is 175 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,840 she's an Oracle, you know, and she's going to feel, I always 176 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,280 say, like she feels things that I don't even know I feel or 177 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,560 she's like feeling things I'm thinking or contemplating before 178 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:20,880 I've even made the thought. It's just so I think this depth 179 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:27,640 of ownership of our experience and maintaining our own Wellness 180 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:32,120 and being able to lead ourselves through the inevitable storms of 181 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,840 life, through the weather, you know, and needing to go into 182 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,640 this more, you could call it more feminine or yen or, you 183 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,240 know, space this, the waters, the grieving, or even just what 184 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,000 you're talking about. Going out into nature, 185 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,480 replenishing ourselves and ensuring that we got us is 186 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,240 essential for us to show up in partnership. 187 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,840 In fact, if we can't do that, we're not fit to be in 188 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,280 partnership. Actually, you know, or we could 189 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,520 be figuring out as we go. We're all doing that. 190 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,680 But this is the core of leadership, ultimately, to be 191 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,400 able to face our own demons. And like we talk about Make Love 192 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,160 and not war with those demons. You know, we're learning how to 193 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,360 bring the compassion and love and, you know, care to these 194 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,800 parts like, like that motherly, feminine energy, while also 195 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,120 bringing the father, you know, the assertive father who's also 196 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,120 like, all right, son, I know that you're hurt. 197 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,400 Like, you know, the mom's there when he falls down on his bike 198 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,560 and she's there to help clean up his wounds and take a little 199 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,680 time to reset. And then when the time comes, 200 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,520 dad's back here like, all right, son, time to time to try again, 201 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,320 you know, time to stand back up again. 202 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:49,720 And I, I sense that when we have that support within ourselves of 203 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,200 integrated masculine and feminine, you know, leadership, 204 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,640 you could say when we have an integrated household within 205 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:01,520 ourselves and we have this range to embody that for our, our 206 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,840 partners, you know, whether or not they're feminine or 207 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,080 masculine, these things aren't gendered, right? 208 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,440 Like when your partner's going through her, her feminine mood 209 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,320 swings of her, let's say her cycle every month, you know, 210 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,520 you're always there. And maybe that's more of a 211 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:21,040 common experience for many women by and large, But also when 212 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,880 you're in, you're in, you're grieving or you're needing to 213 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,280 drop into your feminine to have a, a partner who's cultivated 214 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,960 her ability to be in a masculine. 215 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,400 And, you know, for us to be in our feminine and expand this 216 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:40,440 range of being able to attune ourselves to what's present and 217 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,920 become the solution and become the medicine. 218 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,920 Like the more we can bring that to ourselves, the more we can 219 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,280 bring that to partnership. You know, and I, this is a lot 220 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,720 of the work we do in brotherhood, you know, and 221 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,320 definitely in our community and men's sexual mastery and, you 222 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,080 know, even just you and I as brothers talking about it right 223 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,680 here. So that's just to connect the 224 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,640 dots a little bit more on, you know, the context of all this. 225 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,520 And I'm curious if you got anything else you want to add to 226 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,520 that. Definitely, yeah, a couple 227 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,319 things came up. You know, first, because you 228 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:23,960 spoke to it more recently, the, the dynamic of putting on the 229 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,119 different hats. I refer to it as energetic 230 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:32,720 flexibility and that ability to, to say, OK, actually, I'm 231 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,920 really, I'm, I'm really, it's important for me that I honor 232 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,600 the feminine expression within me right now. 233 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,280 And it would be really supportive if my partner could 234 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,120 put on her masculine hat for, for a time here and just hold me 235 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:52,000 in that with the understanding, with the agreement that we're 236 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,240 not switching roles here permanently. 237 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:59,720 It's a temporary thing so that so that this experience in me 238 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,200 can be honoured and, and moved through so that it's not 239 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,880 continuing to stay stuck and, and impact other aspects of 240 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,960 life. And, and I think that that's 241 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:14,520 something that my partner and I do effectively the majority of 242 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,320 the time and something I've noticed in this particular 243 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,360 experience because this contraction has felt much more 244 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:27,360 drawn out. There's, well, kind of what I 245 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:30,840 was speaking to earlier in the call, this dissipation of 246 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,520 polarity, which will happen when, when we're not in our 247 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:40,880 dominant pole. And so there's, you know, and 248 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,080 there's other, there's other ways for me to be held by the 249 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,920 masculine, which is what we we do in men's work. 250 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:51,280 There's so many opportunities in brotherhood and men's workspaces 251 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,680 for a man to actually go into his feminine experience, his 252 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,800 emotional body, his processing of that so. 253 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,720 His partner doesn't have to. Exactly. 254 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,320 Yeah. And, and I'm well resourced in 255 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,160 those ways. And, you know, Monday and 256 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,440 Tuesday of this week, I was in person brotherhood spaces in 257 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:15,200 town here, and I noticed a shift Wednesday morning, like a light, 258 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:20,360 a lightness and a more openness and connection and more polarity 259 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,680 in my relationship. And there's yeah, there's 260 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,720 there's so much there that I could go into. 261 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,960 But I actually want to kind of transition into the second point 262 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:37,160 that that came up for me after you were sharing there, which is 263 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:39,760 the ownership piece that you were speaking to a little 264 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,280 earlier. And this is, again, to bring it 265 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,960 back to how does this relate to our work in men's sexual 266 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,560 mastery? How does this relate to the 267 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,960 evolution of our approach and consciousness and awareness to 268 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:57,080 intimacy and polarity? Especially because a pattern 269 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:02,120 that I've noticed in my life is when I am in a contraction and 270 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:09,640 feeling less centered and feeling less grounded, feeling 271 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:14,400 less vibrant in myself. I'm being hard on myself in 272 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,760 certain ways. If I'm not meeting the 273 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,440 expectations that I've set for myself, that all depletes my own 274 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,880 sense of worth, like you were saying. 275 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,480 And how that actually, how I've noticed that shows up for me is 276 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:34,600 there's a tendency, there's an old pattern that attempts to 277 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:39,960 project that onto someone else. And so if I'm in, if there's 278 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,680 thunderclouds around me per SE, and I'm kind of in a mood, 279 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,920 there's this part of me that wants to externalize that and 280 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,000 say, like, oh, if my partner was different right now, I wouldn't 281 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,240 be feeling this way. And you know, this could show up 282 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,760 in polarity, like, oh, if my partner was more in her feminine 283 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,800 right now, I wouldn't feel like I'm out of my dominant pull. 284 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,200 And this is a pattern that I'm very aware of and I can notice 285 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:13,000 it right away these days. And and yet it's still, it's, 286 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,000 it's still there, it's still working in the background to, to 287 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:22,720 try and sabotage or evade the ownership that I know is 288 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,800 actually really just mine to take. 289 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,880 And so when I take a step outside of that and I become the 290 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,040 observer, I can look down at myself and realize, oh, like 291 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,760 this isn't actually about my partner and what she's doing or 292 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,240 not doing right now. This is happening internally for 293 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,000 me. And I'm just projecting that on 294 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:47,160 the world around me. And so I can catch myself before 295 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:53,040 criticizing or, you know, putting the blame on someone 296 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,320 else, my partner per SE in this example, and actually really 297 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,800 just turning that around and being like, all right, all 298 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,160 righty. And where am I not? 299 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,960 Where, where am I not stepping up here? 300 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,920 Where am I not living up to my expectations? 301 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:11,160 Where am I falling short of what I know is required of me right 302 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,640 now to actually feel really good in myself? 303 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,800 And and then the rest of the world around me is, is going to 304 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,560 feel good too when I'm in that place. 305 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:24,600 And so, yeah, I guess this would be, it's an invitation to myself 306 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,400 and to to anyone out there who might feel some resonance with 307 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:34,520 this to really check, check ourselves and notice if I'm 308 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,480 wanting or desiring my partner to be something different or to 309 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,080 be in a different way. Not even our part, my partner. 310 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,840 It could be anyone else that we're in relationship with in 311 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,120 that moment to turn it around and say, like, where, where am I 312 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:55,800 actually not meeting the standard within myself? 313 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,680 And that's all we can really control. 314 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,680 So taking that command as you spoke to earlier and saying, OK, 315 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,200 well, what's required of me being that assertive father, 316 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,920 like, yeah, OK. I, I, I see that you're feeling 317 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,480 down right now and I see that you're projecting that on the 318 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,640 world around you. And So what actually could you 319 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,760 do within yourself, for yourself to help create the shift that 320 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,440 you're looking to, to then see and receive from the world 321 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:32,440 around you? Yeah, yeah. 322 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:40,040 That, you know, there's one of my mentors said in any given 323 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:46,240 moment, we have a choice. We can be living in heaven or 324 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:53,840 hell, and heaven is being a creator, you know, is taking 325 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,880 full responsibility. That this is my experience, even 326 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:03,440 if it's difficult, you know, but I, I'm owning it and I'm not 327 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,000 blaming. I'm not a victim. 328 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,440 Anything outside of me, that's how we take our power back. 329 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,120 Hell is being the victim. It's the powerlessness, which I 330 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:18,440 think full circle coming back to that, the loop, you know, the 331 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,040 self sabotaging loop, which again, can also be there could 332 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,080 be medicine and letting things collapse and fall down 333 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,840 sometimes. But if it's becoming the a form 334 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,920 of victimhood, I think that's the subtle nuance where like 335 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,360 what we say all the time in this work, law is governed by 336 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:48,200 intention, which means like something could be medicine or a 337 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,840 poison, depending on our intention, consciously or 338 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,760 unconsciously, what's motivating it. 339 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,000 You know, for instance, BDSM or something we talked about in 340 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,760 this work, you know, someone spanking somebody really hard 341 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,080 could be traumatic or pleasurable depending on the 342 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,280 energy of what's behind it, the person delivering it, the person 343 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,640 receiving it. It's the same thing I think with 344 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:19,360 our reality that we find ourselves in and us, as, you 345 00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:24,960 know, conscious creators, how are we choosing to respond? 346 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,320 You know, we're dealt these hands in life and like the only 347 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,240 thing we're responsible for is playing our hands the best we 348 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,240 can. And cursing the cards or cursing 349 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:43,120 the game just just makes things a lot more, a lot less pleasant. 350 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:50,240 And yeah, and something else as you were sharing that, that 351 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,520 piece around even, you know, I'm just noting like even with the 352 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,720 level of work that a guy can be in, and we hear this all the 353 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,400 time. Guy shared it on the call 354 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,880 yesterday. Actually, some the new cohort we 355 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,560 just launched, there's some guys in our new cohort who are, have 356 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,720 done a lot of work. They've invested huge amounts of 357 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,720 time and energy into their self development and saying like, 358 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,600 man, I feel like I with all the amount of work I'm in, like it's 359 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:23,400 sometimes it's hard to to be feeling like a beginner again. 360 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,080 And we say all the time, new levels, new devils, that's it. 361 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:34,280 And I think learning how to dance with the seasons, dance 362 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,920 with the the challenges, smile into the resistance rather than 363 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,440 resisting it because what we resist persists. 364 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:47,520 All of these things are core reframes, core updates to our 365 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:53,200 software, shifting from the victim into the creator of our 366 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,200 reality. And man, just the massive 367 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,680 transformation that happens as we continue doing that, it's 368 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:13,280 just never ceases to amaze me. Yeah, it's humbling being in a 369 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,200 place like this. I can, yeah, feel resonance with 370 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,680 that feeling of come so far. I've done so much work. 371 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:27,000 And here I find myself again in this, in this difficult place. 372 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,200 And what's different is the level of awareness. 373 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:37,720 What's different is the tools that I have and the awareness of 374 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,440 how and why and where to apply them. 375 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:51,200 And yet it still requires that willful energy to really smile 376 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:58,000 through it, as you say, and, and apply and really integrate all 377 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,920 that I have learned and, and apply it to this situation. 378 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:07,720 And every time I do, when that exhale comes and it's like, oh, 379 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,240 OK, I'm on the other side of it now. 380 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,240 It further solidifies those teachings and further solidifies 381 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,720 that knowing of, Oh yeah, OK, I do know how to navigate this and 382 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,280 I'm navigating it way better than I used to. 383 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:30,320 And and yeah, I'm human, still gonna, still gonna meet these 384 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,280 edges, still gonna, still gonna be faced with challenges. 385 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:40,120 And it helps to to keep keep me humble and always a student. 386 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:48,480 Black belt swagger, white belt mind Hawks. 387 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:54,880 I know we're wrapping up here, but I, I wanted just for just 388 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,360 for anyone listening to hear about, you know, for me, when 389 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:07,080 your dad passed, the timing of that, this massive launch we 390 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,000 were in and how you showed up. Like as you were describing what 391 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:17,400 you just did meeting it and how you showed up on those calls 392 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,360 with the biggest launch we had, you know, a couple months ago. 393 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:31,600 I would love if you, if you're open to sharing it, just how, if 394 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,480 you could share just a little recount of what that experience 395 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,640 was like with your dad passing and how it affected you. 396 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,680 And, and yeah, how you ended up showing up on that first call. 397 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,520 Literally was it within 48 hours I think of your dad passings you 398 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,360 were leading. Yeah, more like 16 hours. 399 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,000 Say, oh, sixteen. OK, Yeah. 400 00:29:53,440 --> 00:30:00,040 Maybe 12, Yeah, yeah, I think our first call was at 9:00 AM 401 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:07,840 Pacific, which would have been, yeah, it was about 1214 hours. 402 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,480 It was the morning after. The morning after, yeah, yeah, 403 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:22,880 that was a wild time. You know, there's an element of 404 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:31,640 shock or disbelief I, I feel that was present in those 405 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:37,680 initial days after his passing where it hadn't really set in 406 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,360 fully yet. And and yet it was incredibly 407 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,000 real. As you know, I was there in the 408 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,400 hospital with him the week leading up to his passing and 409 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,360 the night that he passed. And, and I was very, very close 410 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:58,680 with that process of death and dying and had a lot of 411 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,160 opportunity to to be with that and to process it real time with 412 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,280 him in the hospital in those final days. 413 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:13,200 And I think there was, you know, the biggest thing that comes up 414 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,280 for me with showing up on those calls and in that big launch 415 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:23,360 that happened to coincide with with my dad's passing, was this 416 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:30,200 knowing of his support like this, this knowing that he's 417 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,280 there. And actually me showing up to 418 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:39,880 the fullest of my capability and capacity in this line of work, 419 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,640 in my business, in my purpose, in my mission. 420 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:49,040 That was in that moment how I could honor him and and what he 421 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:55,160 would have wanted for me. And so it was choiceless and 422 00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:01,560 effortless. And actually I felt a huge surge 423 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:07,880 of support in this. It's kind of like the night 424 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:14,680 after a medicine ceremony, staying up till 5:00 AM deep in 425 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,600 the medicine space, getting a couple hours of sleep, and then 426 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,240 waking up the next day and feeling like, whoa, I'm just so 427 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,360 full of energy. I could take on the world right 428 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,360 now. And even though I am physically 429 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,760 should be depleted from this massive experience, there's just 430 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,520 infinite energy for me to move forward with positivity and 431 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,160 light. And, and I really felt that that 432 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,920 next day, similarly, like I had very little sleep and had been 433 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,320 missed in the hospital for a week, living in the in the room 434 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,320 with my dad, not getting great sleep and physically very 435 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,360 depleted. But showing up that next day, I 436 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:59,160 felt this surge of support from him and the knowing that this is 437 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:04,760 how I, this is how I serve and this is this is what is right. 438 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,320 And this is what I'm being called up and into. 439 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:14,520 And so I felt a lot of strength actually, that that first day 440 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:20,360 when we were launching our cohorts and that, you know, now 441 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:27,320 having more time passed, I'm actually feeling more and more 442 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:34,640 as, as the time elapses. It's yeah, it's presenting 443 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:42,920 differently. And so that's where that's what 444 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,480 that's what comes through for to speak to that initial launch 445 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,880 that we were in and and where I'm at now, yeah. 446 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,920 Yeah, thanks bro. I remember you stepping into 447 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,520 that meeting and it just reminded me of what you're 448 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,640 speaking to. I'm just the, I felt like your 449 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:10,719 father moving through you, you know, and just that when we talk 450 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,040 about the, the fatherly energy to like pick up the little boy 451 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:20,719 who's struggling and like lift him up. 452 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,639 And I felt that in such a huge way. 453 00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:27,960 And I know everybody on the call felt that. 454 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:34,320 And it's just such an honor to, yeah, be sharing this journey 455 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,920 with you, man, building this out. 456 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,560 And I know your dad is with us and here in spirit even right 457 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:47,480 now. Shout out Tom, just as your 458 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,800 brother. I just want to continue to 459 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,199 remind you of his presence and that it's always there. 460 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,760 And may each and every one of us know that too. 461 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,760 You know, our whether our fathers are around or not, our 462 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,080 grandfathers or great grandfathers, we've got all our 463 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,520 ancestors just right there behind us. 464 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,760 And and we talk a lot about our higher selves, which to me feels 465 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:13,800 like a almost like a fractal in every single one of my ancestors 466 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,680 that I'm just the living manifestation of right now. 467 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,120 And continuing to come into that breath, just like you spoke of 468 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,840 slowing down, meeting it, you know, with as we've spoken to 469 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,280 with ease and stepping into the the eye of the hurricane if 470 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,800 we're caught in these storms and tuning into the energy of your 471 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,360 father and your grandfather and your great grandfather and the 472 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,880 truest version of you. You know who I know one day will 473 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,760 be a father and grandfather and become an ancestor. 474 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,480 It's just really worth highlighting that energy. 475 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,360 I know for me that just I can feel my whole body just lighting 476 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:04,760 up with honor and presence and clarity. 477 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:10,440 Like I know how to navigate any storm in life. 478 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,680 Even if I forget, even if I think I don't know, even if I 479 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,640 don't actually know what to do next. 480 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,280 It's just one breath at a time, one second at a time, moving 481 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,600 into the unknown, continuing to be the tip of the spear, you 482 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,040 know, standing on the shoulders of giants, you know, your father 483 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,560 being one of them. And my father, you know, when 484 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,800 everyone's listening is our fathers and mothers. 485 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:39,200 And you know, may we continue to, yeah, just show up in the 486 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,600 the most loving, compassionate and also heart aligned and 487 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,280 assertive ways possible in service to all those who came 488 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,440 before us and all those who will follow. 489 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,040 Cause ultimately, when it's not about me, that's when I can 490 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:05,840 unlock the biggest impact, you know, the biggest, just the most 491 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:12,280 epic life, you know, being able to be here as, as these amazing 492 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:19,040 creatures on this planet. So yeah, and just in service to 493 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,920 love ultimately, like that's what we're here for. 494 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,400 That's what the mission is at MSMI. 495 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,960 Think that's what every single human's ultimate desire is, 496 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:33,040 right? And we often say that within our 497 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,320 work, we're here to serve the future generations of children 498 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,720 who are waiting to be born into this world, into families that 499 00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:45,600 are cohesive, that are strong, where the men have integrated 500 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,240 sexual energy and so do the women. 501 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:54,120 The men are supported to be the most epic lovers, the most epic 502 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:59,040 fathers and brothers that they can be and to have, you know, 503 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,120 an, an intimacy in their partnership that a fire that is 504 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,680 stoked. We say that warms the entire 505 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,800 house like the hearth of intimacy of not just sexuality. 506 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,600 What we're talking about today is how to maintain that fire as 507 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,680 you're noticing it's getting, it's going down. 508 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,800 The polarity's dropping. I'm not making love as much with 509 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,320 my partner 'cause I'm in the season. 510 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,240 But still, I know that this is just a season like that. 511 00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:28,280 It's raining on my fire right now and I'm doing my best to 512 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,440 like keep it for, you know, breathing into it, still get 513 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,200 that fire and it's OK. And, you know, the more of us 514 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,840 are here together to, you know, I'm here alongside you too. 515 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,880 We're both stocking fires. And yeah, that's just what we're 516 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,880 doing here. But the more that we can support 517 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,480 that and men, the more stable homes will be, the more stable 518 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,120 the world will be. But you know, and these children 519 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,880 who want to be born into these, you know, the future families, 520 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,240 man, can you just imagine? Like I know you and I both like 521 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,000 being able to have loving, committed partnerships and 522 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,320 brotherhood, you know, and community and family. 523 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,200 That just deepens over time. And the intimacy deepens because 524 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:20,000 we are fire tenders of intimacy. That's what it's all about. 525 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,440 And if there's any chance for true love, you know, for stable 526 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,840 families, for strong tribes, strong relationships, like I 527 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,280 know it's this. It's us honing our fire, fire 528 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:39,160 keeping abilities and and it all comes back to keeping that fire 529 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:45,080 within us. And so all that to say, just a 530 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,000 huge shout out to the torch that's been handed to you by 531 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,680 your father and your ancestors and the ways that you're 532 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,880 continuing to stoke that fire and make it even bigger and 533 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,640 brighter than ever before and help all these other men light 534 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,640 their fires. You know, so that we can be the 535 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,040 light, we can be the warmth, we can be the safety and the the 536 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,480 nourishment in a world that is starving. 537 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,200 You know, for nourishment, for community, for relationship, for 538 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,920 intimacy, for. This fulfillment, you know, 539 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,240 which again, it all boils down the sexuality piece is just, we 540 00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:26,480 say it's the flower that blooms on the top of the plant that has 541 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,880 strong roots, strong stems, strong leaves. 542 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,640 It's just a by product ultimately. 543 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:37,240 But what we're talking about is from, you know, head to toe, 544 00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:43,320 just like every part of us being aligned with the men that we 545 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,280 came here to be. So yeah, brother, I just really 546 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,000 see you. I honor you in the season you're 547 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,960 in. And I trust your guidance and 548 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,400 your ancestors and your dad all having your back. 549 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,600 And I'm grateful to be here with you feeling strong in myself 550 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,400 while you're in this season, you know, running the business and 551 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,400 everything else. And I know we said this the 552 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,440 other day, it'll be seasons for me too, man. 553 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:17,160 And I know that you got my back. And it's just that's with huge 554 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,880 gratitude and honour, man, that I, yeah, that I share this 555 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,040 journey with you. So thank you, bro. 556 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:29,040 Yeah. Likewise, brother. 557 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,680 Yeah, so much appreciation for, for the way that you support me 558 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,600 and, and that we support each other and the the power that 559 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:47,560 comes in too, being able to navigate our individual seasons 560 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,840 and unite in the collected mission. 561 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:57,480 That's, that's ultimately, you know, fueling each of our 562 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,200 movement in life. And it's a real honor to share 563 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,080 the, the mission and the purpose with you with a brother who I 564 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,560 feel so aligned with and supported by and in such deep 565 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:15,360 relationship in connection with inside business and, and outside 566 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,680 as brothers checking in as we have today. 567 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:27,200 This is yeah, this has been pretty much a regular session of 568 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,920 listening and supporting each other as as we do starting our 569 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,480 meetings with a check in and noticing if there's something 570 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:40,440 that's that's there that could benefit from some massaging out, 571 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,560 could benefit from, from some compassionate listening and 572 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,400 counsel. So yeah, feeling really 573 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:56,280 supported and and grateful to to anyone listening in and being a 574 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,720 part of this and sharing a night intimacy and. 575 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,440 Thankful for all the brothers too within the MSM brotherhood 576 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,280 as as well right? And of course, like this is 577 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,200 shout out to all you guys, you know, this is a lot of the, you 578 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,200 know, the behind the scenes kind of deeper work. 579 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,960 Sometimes we're moving through outside of the training and the 580 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,600 tools and everything else, it's just deep, deep brotherhood 581 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,840 support. Like when my fire goes out, I'm 582 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,400 grateful that there's the circle of brothers who are keeping the 583 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,840 big fire stoked and I can put my torch back in there and relight 584 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:33,960 it. And that's, that's what we, 585 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,360 that's why we gather in these ways just to remember who we are 586 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,400 and and not get lost on our own. So yeah, big shout out to the 587 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,400 Brotherhood. Yeah, yeah, I love you brothers. 588 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:51,480 Every single interaction and win that's shared from from one of 589 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,960 the men in our community is a huge burst of fuel to the fire 590 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,120 that that keeps me going and I know keeps you going and fuels 591 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,800 us in in showing up. The the capacity to continually 592 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,680 show up despite and amidst whatever might be moving 593 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:12,240 internally to know that Oh yeah, this is so much bigger than me. 594 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,120 And every little win, every little opportunity to support or 595 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,280 celebrate another brother in in a way that feels so aligned is 596 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,240 an incredible gift. So thank you. 597 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,960 Yeah, the ripples in time and space of just those little wins 598 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,720 too. Like that's, that's ultimately, 599 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:37,520 that's that's why I'm in this. I know that's why you're in this 600 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,400 too. It's like man, just the smallest 601 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:46,240 shifts can have such huge ripples into not just one man's 602 00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:52,560 life, but everyone he touches. And may we continue to deepen in 603 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,760 coherence with that version of ourselves that is the most 604 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,960 aligned, compassionate integris, you know, bold version of us. 605 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,960 Yeah, for all generations. Amen. 606 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:13,200 Oh, so it is. So it is. 607 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:24,000 Thank you, brother. So he's nourishing and enjoyable 608 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,520 to sit down with you. And thanks again to anyone 609 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:35,000 tuning in, I feel complete. Yeah me too bro. 610 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,480 Thank you all for tuning in. Send a big love your way and 611 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,240 catch you on the next one. All right, bye everyone.