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Everybody to another episode of 
the Men's Sexual Mastery 

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Podcast. 
This is Ben Timby here joined by

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your fellow Co host Ian Hawks. 
Welcome. 

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What's up everybody? 
Thanks for being here. 

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Yeah, we're stoked to be here 
today. 

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We're going to have a drop in 
podcast today on the topic of 

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the nature of sexual energy and 
some of these deeper levels of 

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understanding that we can bring 
to ensure the best outcome as 

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we're practicing deepening in 
semen retention, semen 

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intention, Taoist sexual alchemy
as it's called, these tools of 

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transmuting sexual energy into 
new areas of our life and and 

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into deeper lovemaking and 
deeper orgasms as we talked 

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about, but the whole gamut. 
And also not only transmuting, 

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but also cultivating and 
generating more and more, but 

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knowing that more isn't always 
better and understanding the 

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nature, as you spoke to, of the 
sexual energy and how we can 

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cultivate that in a way that's 
truly beneficial for us and not 

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destructive. 
Yeah, well said. 

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Yeah, more isn't always better 
is exactly what we're diving 

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into today. 
We're going to be talking about 

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how in traditional Chinese 
medicine, it's taught, it's 

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understood that sexual energy 
binds and amplifies whatever is 

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present. 
So I like to think of this like 

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an accelerant. 
You know, it's like gasoline 

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that you can pour onto a fire 
and you better make sure that 

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your fire is contained or else 
shit can blow up. 

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Shit can get a little, little 
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And, you know, I often say it 
can be like turning up the 

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volume knob as well, you know? 
So what does this really mean? 

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You know, when I first heard 
this expression, sexual energy 

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binds and amplifies, I thought, 
yeah, I I took me a while to 

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wrap my mind around it. 
But the more I've gotten into 

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this work and the deeper we've 
gone Hawks and then the 

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trainings with all the men, I 
see it more and more and more. 

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So I'd love to pass it off to 
you a little bit to explain how 

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you see this show up or how you 
understand this concept of 

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sexual energy binding and 
amplifying. 

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Yeah. 
So something that comes up is 

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this, this energy, sexual energy
being somewhat neutral, it's, it

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has the capacity to greatly 
enhance and amplify our lives in

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all of the generative positive 
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And it also has the potential to
burn the house down, as we see 

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in so many relationships, so 
many, so many men and people in 

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general that are with this 
sexual energy in a way that's 

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that's not really supportive or 
generative for them or aligned. 

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And learning how to cultivate 
and harness that sexual energy 

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in a way that's truly beneficial
for our lives and for the people

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in our lives. 
And so you know what, to answer 

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your question about how this 
shows up, one of the one of the 

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ways that we see this showing up
all the time in the men in our 

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community is an illumination 
that comes when we start to 

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build and cultivate more sexual 
energy within ourselves. 

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That binding and amplifying 
nature of it will start to 

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illuminate the areas in our life
where we're not fully in 

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alignment yet. 
If someone doesn't have a robust

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community and social life, if 
they're inherently lonely and 

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they start to build and 
cultivate more sexual energy, 

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that's likely to show them that.
Oh, I need to get some more 

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community in my life. 
I'm actually lonely. 

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Or if where the environment that
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out of alignment and not for 
them that that will be revealed.

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If there's patterns in life that
aren't serving, that will be 

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revealed. 
You know, one of the another 

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common experience for men in our
program is the realization like 

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I got to get my physical health 
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It's really important for me 
that I start going to the gym, 

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that I go for long walks in 
nature or runs or get out 

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outdoors or start lifting heavy 
stuff and nurturing my body or 

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putting really healthy, good 
foods into my body. 

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Because that sexual energy, as 
it builds, if it doesn't have 

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outlets, if there aren't 
patterns that we've already 

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instilled within ourselves to 
circulate that energy and to 

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work with it in a good way, it's
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discomfort. 
It's going to start to, to 

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cause, you know, just 
illumination of the areas where 

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we're not yet fully in 
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And so that's, that's a couple 
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And I know there's lots more. 
So pass the ball to you. 

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What comes up for you with that 
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Yeah, I think about how so 
often, you know, ejaculation 

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porn sex can be an escape for a 
lot of men. 

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And if you think about the 
nature of how like as you start 

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to hold the energy, it becomes 
uncomfortable, like that feeling

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of discomfort is actually your 
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You know and. 
Like you could continue to 

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ejaculate and release your own 
sensitivity to the truth of your

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reality, or you can allow it to 
build up and actually take an 

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assessment. 
And This is why in module one of

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our training that we've got guys
in, we, we focus on energetic 

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leaks. 
We call it just all the areas of

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your life that are out of 
alignment where you're leaking 

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sexual energy. 
Because ultimately your cup, 

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your vessel, if you will, of 
your life force cannot be 

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filled. 
Like we can bring all the 

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practices in the world, but if 
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your cup, you can't fill water 
into it, You're not going to be 

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able to fill sexual energy into 
your life. 

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You're going to continue to feel
depleted until you address 

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what's out of alignment. 
And so that's why this is 

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foundational and that's why we 
created that as part of our 

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process before getting into any 
sort of sexual amplification or 

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building up of sexual energy, 
even semen retention. 

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I really encourage guys to get 
your house in order, get your 

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shit together, get your 
containment in place so you can 

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cook a meal rather than burn the
house down with this fuel. 

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I say it's rocket fuel for our 
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But if we're not clear and we're
not intentional and conscious 

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and aligned and in integrity 
with our our deepest knowing, it

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can actually be really 
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And, and that also is fine. 
You know, ultimately it's for 

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the best. 
Like some guys, you know, 

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another one I see a lot and 
you've seen a lot I know is 

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relationships being out of 
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You know, guys staying in 
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comfortable or maybe the sex is 
good. 

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But deep down, you know, this 
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It's unfair to you and to your 
partner actually to be staying 

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in something that's out of 
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That's a big one. 
And and the more the guys deepen

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in this practice and in these 
tools, everything is going to 

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become illuminated. 
Like like you mentioned 2 Hawks 

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like it's going to the noise is 
going to get turned up the 

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longer you're holding on to your
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Yeah. 
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relationships, not only our most
intimate relationships, you 

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know, a partner that we may be 
with, but also relationships 

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such as friends or people that 
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our time with. 
We see a lot of that as well and

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hear men speaking to the 
realization that, oh, actually 

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certain connections in my life 
are actually not in alignment 

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anymore. 
And the calling back in of that 

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energy, the realization of, oh, 
these, these connections, these 

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relationships are actually 
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They're not serving me. 
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They're no longer in alignment. 
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comfortable to remain in them. 
And there's there's a death and 

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a rebirth that's asking to 
happen here because we need to 

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createspace in order to allow 
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receiving the new connections, 
the new opportunities in life 

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that are more aligned for us. 
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come along with some of those 
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relationships as well. 
If you know, if, if someone has 

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been hanging out with the same 
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years, and the pattern is to go 
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and engage in surficial level 
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which is great, you know, some 
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And for some people, and also as
men, desire has been start to 

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desire more depth in their life 
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actually alcohol or these 
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are no longer in alignment for 
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And the relationships that I'm 
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around the consumption of these 
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these patterns. 
There's, there's a letting go 

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here that's required in order 
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some new connection, some new 
community, some new patterns and

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habits that are actually truly 
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And then one last thing that 
that came up for me is a 

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particular man in our program 
who not going to name, it's all 

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confidential, but even, well, 
actually, not just one man, but 

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the, the letting go of jobs like
an old way of being in service 

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or working that actually 
realizing, oh, my soul is asking

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for a new form of service in the
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I'm being called up and into a 
way of providing value in the 

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world that's different from how 
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whatever means for 
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transformation often requires 
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shedding of old relationships or
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patterns or substances or ways 
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And, and to have that 
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the generation and cultivation 
of more sexual energy, it starts

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to become really clear, OK, I'm 
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substantial shift in my life. 
And that could be uncomfortable,

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but I know that I trust that it 
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more comfortability. 
And and what or more fulfillment

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I'll say rather than 
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fulfillment. 
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the, you know, sort of negative 
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are out of alignment so far in 
the shedding processes that you 

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know, will be accelerated by 
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energy and building it. 
I'd like to talk a little bit 

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about the amplification that, 
you know, the binding and 

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amplifying of the positive 
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really what most guys show up in
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Can you speak a little bit about
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The one of the most common 
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and that we hear is just the 
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Like, oh, I'm, I'm so alive. 
I'm feeling powerful, I'm 

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feeling energized. 
I'm feeling like there's more of

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me to give and to be with for 
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me. 
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our being, I think is is 
inherently powerful, connected, 

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embodied ways of being. 
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ways of being allows us to to 
bring more of ourselves online 

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and creates a feeling of 
well-being that's that's 

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unparalleled. 
I mean, it's, it's part of the 

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journey of, of being a human 
here, as I've come to understand

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it is how can I tap into the 
truth of me and bring more of 

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that online? 
And so as we bring aspects of 

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our life into alignment and 
engage in practices and ways of 

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being and relationships and 
service that are really for us 

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that are aligned, the 
amplification of those allows us

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to step further and further in 
and give and give and receive 

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more and more of what we came 
here to, to give and receive and

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be. 
Yeah, I'm well said. 

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I definitely would resonate and 
echo all of that. 

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And you know, with the vitality,
with focus, creativity, some 

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guys even say like your 
intuition, it's almost like 

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you're micro dosing, I would say
is the best comparison. 

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You know, I would draw like for 
anyone who's microdosed 

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psilocybin or something, it's 
just like almost like a slight 

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dose of that. 
And yeah, what you said, just 

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this overall sense of 
well-being, this kind of 

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abundant amount of energy. 
And when it's brought into the 

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love making, of course, like 
this is then the final realm. 

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And this is the cherry on top. 
This is the you know, what 

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everyone wants above all, but we
often say that your love making 

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is just going to be a byproduct.
You know, the relationships that

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come into your life and 
especially with a romantic 

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partner is going to be the 
byproduct of your attunement, 

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your alignment and the 
amplification of the truest, 

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most heart centered, authentic 
version of you. 

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You know, like we, we often say 
you're the quantum field is 

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going to be rearranging around 
how who you are being. 

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And it can take some time at 
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in our training, we do six whole
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We're accelerating the timelines
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yeah, I think when it comes into
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attunement to your partner, the 
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body and intuit where they want 
to be touched, to feel their 

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pleasure in you and to allow. 
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ejaculation and these other 
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open up, which I think are also 
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of well-being we talk about 
that's just permeating all of 

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it's really turned up. 
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that binding and amplifying of 
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Taoist lineage, which is this is
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sexual technology, we like to 
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of China. 
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secret, were very guarded for 
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when Montag Chia brought it 
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energy will amplify love and 
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your life partner and you are 
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there's a whole nother level of 
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like this echo Chamber of 
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when we come into contact with 
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little far out, but and you 
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know deep down that true love, 
like who doesn't want true love 

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how to hold and build our sexual
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personal transformation journey 
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in alignment with who we really 
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sourced and no longer extracting
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love or our sexual fulfillment 
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When we can sit with all the 
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allow them to be transmuted over
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know, we have this in our 
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and guys in Group training, but 
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When you have a support network,
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But all this to say, when you go
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can start to show up in a way 
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kind of partner that is your 
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And what happened for you? 
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It's happened for many other 
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That ultimately is the end goal.

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You know, I think for almost all
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wants to be with a partner. 
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sexual quote UN quote sexual 
mastery, which actually is life 

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force mastery, which is across 
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And this could be a whole nother
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deeper levels of binding and 
amplifying and building sexual 

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energy. 
And I know our time is a little 

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bit limited today, but I think 
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the additional layer that love 
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love. 
And again, this isn't stuff we 

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made-up. 
This is from the Daoist lineage.

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So is there anything, Hawks, 
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on that? 
I'd love to pass it over. 

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What something that comes up for

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me as you're speaking to that 
bring it specifically into the 

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bedroom and with a partner in 
the amplification of love 

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through sex and sex through 
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I think also of the the role 
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this and speaking specifically 
to the act of making love with a

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partner and coming back to this 
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amplifying of what's already 
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And so I'm, I'm, I'm thinking 
about a situation where two 

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partners come together and there
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presence in the man for this 
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from himself, from his own body,
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his partner, the act of physical
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But that disconnection that's 
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will be amplified as he checks 
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thinking of someone else or 
something else in his life while

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going through the physical 
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presence there, if there isn't 
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the partner, then you're 
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to masturbate. 
It's not actually a true love 

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making. 
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disconnection, and it will serve
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disconnection between two 
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If this habit of disembodied, 
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repeatedly, if the man isn't 
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his partner, she's also not 
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her body will start to close up 
over time and contract and hold 

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tension in the yoni. 
That is an indication that, hey,

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there hasn't been true 
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further and further disconnect 
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example is showing up in his 
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presence, and then therefore 
also able to be present with his

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partner, that in itself the the 
practice of presence greatly 

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amplifies our energy as a whole.
We have more energy to give. 

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Wherever our attention goes, our
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elsewhere because we're not 

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present, our energy is also 
going elsewhere. 

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But if we're fully present with 
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the act of lovemaking, then all 
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And then that sex, that sexual 
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amplify that. 
It's going to amplify the 

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presence. 
And if there's eye contact and 

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that feeling of really like 
being attuned and understanding 

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what your partner is 
experiencing because there's 

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such a level of presence that 
you're reading and picking up on

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all of the subtle cues and the 
breath is synced up and the eyes

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are engaged and gazing into each
other, that presence is so 

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greatly amplified. 
And it's serving to deeply 

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nourish that connection between 
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then their love. 
And so I would say like sex 

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amplifies love if and when 
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And if there isn't presence 
there, then the energy isn't 

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there. 
And then it's actually serving 

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to amplify the disconnection. 
Yeah, Yeah, I love that you 

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highlighted that. 
And you know, I I love the whole

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idea of sexual energy just 
amplifying presence in general, 

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like outside of the sexual act. 
And this is something that you 

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also will find like your 
meditations are going to be a 

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lot. 
Deeper. 

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Your Qigong, you know, I notice 
it when I'm gone quite a while, 

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building up my energy. 
I can feel, it's like static 

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moving between my actually, I 
feel it right now, just like 

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this little tingling between my 
fingers. 

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There's, you know, I had a 
conversation the other day or 

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some comments on Tiktok with 
someone who was asking like, 

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I'm, I'm so connected to my 
meditation practice and I'm so 

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in bliss. 
Like, why would I need to change

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it? 
Or like, why would I try to 

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integrate sexual energy into 
that? 

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And I, it's hard to, to tell 
guys, it's like, if you know, 

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you know, this is basic synergy,
you know, like, well, why don't 

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you just try it, See what 
happens. 

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See what happens when you 
practice holding onto your semen

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for a while or practicing self 
pleasure or sexual pleasure with

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a partner with deep presence and
not ejaculating. 

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That's going to amplify your 
energy quicker. 

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And then notice changes in your 
meditation, notice changes in 

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your Qigong and all the other 
areas we've talked about, you 

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know, your workouts. 
That's another giant one people 

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know. 
And I've spoken to it before. 

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Like it's very known in the MMA 
space and boxing space, like not

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to have an ejaculation the week 
or so before your your big 

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fight. 
This has been held for a long 

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time. 
Like a lot of this stuff is so 

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hidden in plain sight. 
But yeah, coming full circle 

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into the awareness that sexual 
energy is going to bind and 

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amplify everything. 
So whether you are in coherence 

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with yourself, if you're using 
it in a very contained, 

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intentional way, it's going to 
be rocket fuel. 

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And if you're in dissonance with
yourself, if you're not in self 

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love or self acceptance, if 
you're out of integrity with 

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yourself or your inner guidance,
it's going to shed, you know, or

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your relationships or your job, 
all the things we've talked 

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about, it's going to shed that 
or it's going to make it so 

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uncomfortable until you shed it.
It's going to bring up the dis 

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ease. 
And ultimately this is kind of 

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what's at the core of our entire
being is, are we vital and are 

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we healthy? 
Are we in ease or are we in dis 

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ease? 
Are we deficient? 

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And our thoughts, our emotions 
are. 

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Yeah. 
All these different areas of our

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life are just going to be 
generated from our state of 

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being ultimately. 
So that's why we say it's so 

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hard to encapsulate these 
understandings of like what 

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sexual life force energy really 
is and what it is we're doing in

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this work. 
But this is it, you know? 

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And This is why I call this like
holistic men's sex Ed 'cause 

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this is a holistic program. 
The flower doesn't bloom in 

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nature until the roots are 
solid, the stem is solid, the 

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leaves are green, there's no 
disease, there's no past. 

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Sexual reproduction in nature is
the final stage of development. 

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It is the byproduct of a 
healthy, thriving Organism. 

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And you can be having sex. 
You can be having what you think

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is a lot of great sex. 
And you know what I call like 

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porn reenactment, which is most 
of our sex education. 

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And that's fine. 
Lots of ejaculations, lots of 

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penetration and primal energy. 
I, I love that myself too, but 

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it's almost like a flower that's
only partially bloomed. 

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Like you may only be 1% opened 
in your sexuality and you may be

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missing out on 99% of the 
pleasure that actually you're 

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capable of. 
And not just for you, but for 

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your partner and not just for 
the bedroom, but for your entire

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life. 
You know, your vitality. 

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This is your vitality. 
So we're here to spread the word

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and educate our brothers in 
this. 

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Just yell it from the rooftops, 
as we've said before, you know, 

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just to, to really educate and 
inspire brothers to try this 

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out, try this out first hand 
and, and just see what happens. 

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And you know, one final note 
here I'll just say is if you are

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just trying this out for the 
first time, part of the reason 

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we share this is just as a 
disclaimer and we share this 

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with all the guys in our 
training. 

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Too much too fast is 1 
definition of trauma and it 

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takes time, just like gardening,
you know, tilling the garden, 

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you know, you got to work on the
wedding and planting new seeds. 

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These are new neural pathways, 
new behavioral patterns and all 

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the rest. 
And with consistent repetition 

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and with you know, we're going 
to stumble as we learn to walk, 

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as we say all the time, This is 
why we have daily accountability

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for guys. 
And I encourage anyone 

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listening, if you have someone 
you can get in daily 

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accountability with, share your 
commitment, share what's going 

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on every day. 
Send these messages every single

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day. 
This is how it changes. 

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It's not, we're not a light 
switch. 

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It's not fixing something 
suddenly. 

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It's this binding and amplifying
and raising of the energy needs 

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to be done mindfully and slowly.
And This is why, you know, we 

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also created the training 
program to to give guys the 

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tools and the framework and the 
support to deepen in this work. 

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So yeah, that's, that's 
everything I wanted to say on 

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that. 
Is there any last thoughts you 

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have, Hawks, before we sign off?
Sure, just that as you were 

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speaking to it can. 
The journey can be a little 

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uncomfortable as we start out 
and that and that discomfort is 

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indication that change is 
happening. 

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And that's where sticking with 
it, being committed, having that

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consistency to continue to 
follow through because on the 

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other side of that discomfort is
a whole new you. 

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It's a whole new chapter. 
It's it's a shedding that can be

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uncomfortable. 
Change is typically 

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uncomfortable, but when we're 
aligned and when we're 

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supported, that change is 
orienting us towards something 

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that's even better. 
And so stick with it and know 

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that it's perfectly normal to be
a little uncomfortable at the 

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beginning, but that's what we're
here for, you know, that's what 

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that's what this is about. 
It's not all meant to be 

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comfortable all of the time, but
as we come more and more into 

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alignment, build our energy up 
more and more in our life force,

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things do become just naturally 
more blissful, which is is where

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we're ultimately headed. 
Yeah, that's it, man. 

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Yeah. 
We always say in our training, 

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it's like we're learning how to 
Make Love and not war with the 

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resistance because what we 
resist persists when we can 

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learn how to slow down, breathe,
penetrate with our 

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consciousness, with our smile, 
with our breath, smiling at our 

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demons, you know, and not 
running from them. 

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This is this is the way. 
The only way in is through. 

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And just like Hawk said, I want 
to double click on that and 

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highlight that. 
Like there is so much waiting 

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for you on the other side with 
just a little delayed 

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gratification. 
It's uncomfortable for a little 

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season, but once you've tasted 
this, it's like, it's like a kid

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who's addicted to eating 
Skittles and then, you know, 

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introducing them to creme brulee
or like these extravagant, you 

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know, desserts. 
And it's almost like letting go 

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of the known to open to the 
unknown. 

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Yeah. 
Or or fruit. 

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Yeah, or fruit. 
Something that's actually like, 

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once we allow ourselves to 
sensitize again to what's, 

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what's actually natural, we can 
fully appreciate and savor 

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what's, what's there. 
What, what, you know, God has 

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given us just inherently here to
nourish us and to bring great 

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pleasure and bliss. 
And, you know, for myself, 

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having gone through that process
of eating refined sugars for 

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much of my early life and then 
removing that stimulus from my 

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experience, now I bite into a 
fresh piece of fruit and I'm 

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like, this is better than any 
piece of candy I've ever had. 

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And it's also nourishing me in 
ways that that candy never did. 

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And there's no going back. 
It's just, you know, it's, it's 

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not even a, a question anymore 
at this point on my journey. 

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And, and there's a process to 
that, you know, there's often 

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the process of coming up and out
of engaging with that stimulus. 

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And then we might dip back into 
an old pattern and be like, oh, 

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this tastes really good in the 
moment. 

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But then 5 minutes, five hours 
later, we feel awful. 

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And then it's that reminder of 
like, oh, yeah, this actually 

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wasn't ever in alignment. 
Let me remove this again and get

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back to the really nourishing 
generative practices or ways of 

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being or foods that that 
actually feel good in the moment

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and serve me in the long term. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Well said, man. 
All right, Well, we'll close out

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with that. 
Thank you so much, Hawks, for 

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joining me today. 
And thank you, Listener, for 

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tuning in. 
I'll see you on the next one. 

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Sending lots of love your way.
