Welcome everybody, to the Men's Sexual Mastery Podcast.
This is Ian Hawkes, one of your hosts, and I'm joined by Ben
Timby, our other host. What's up, everybody?
We are Co founders of men's sexual mastery.
MSM is a holistic, educational and empowerment community and
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integrity and empowerment as I spoke to of men with their
sexual life force energy and ultimately in service to long
term, long lasting thriving relationships where we as men
understand our role in intimacy as being Firekeepers of the
relationship. So that we have a hot burning
hearth in the home that spreads love and well-being to our
family, the children sharing that home, our partners, and
ultimately everyone in our lives.
We're going to talk today about one of the foundational
practices with sexual energy transmutation, which means the
circulation of our sexual energy.
This is an integral part of learning how to be with our
sexual energy in command, not controlled by it, but actually
commanding it within ourselves to fuel us in our life, rather
than being drawn into impulses and other reactionary behaviors.
So then let's start off talking about the microcosmic orbit, one
of these energy circulation practices that comes from the
Taoist. I'd love to hear your take on
what is the microcosmic orbit and why should we care about it
as men learning to harness and circulate our sexual energy.
Yeah, thanks, Hawks. And I think that keyword you
just brought up circulate the energy.
This is one of the primary beginner's tools and
foundational tools in circulating your sexual energy.
So for a lot of guys who may be practicing semen retention who
are new to this work, a question that often comes up is what do I
do if I start experiencing blue balls?
And that's the common experience for a lot of guys, right?
And so practically speaking, when you're experiencing blue
balls, that is the congestion, if you will.
It's the build up of sexual energy in your testicles because
it's not being properly circulated.
So this is a tool that'll help you circulate the energy in the
bedroom but also out in the world.
It's going to be awakening these subtle neural pathways as we
describe them, these other conduits you could say of where
the sexual energy can run. And this can open up states of
non ejaculatory orgasms later on, you know, and this can help
redistribute the sexual energy throughout your body in this
practice of sexual transmutation.
This is just one of the core, core practices.
So yeah, that's that's why we why it matters, why we teach it
and why it's a great place to get started for a lot of guys
who are just beginning this journey, as well as seasoned
veterans. So.
All right. Thanks for that.
So if someone out there is listening and they're like all
right, I'm intrigued, what is this microcosmic orbit?
How do I do it? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, happy, happy to dive in on it.
So the microcosmic orbit runs from the perineum, from the base
of of your spine, from your sexual center, all the way up
the back of your spine to the top of your head and then down
the front side of the body. Ben, can I pause you real quick?
You said perineum. What's the perineum?
Oh, the perineum, yes. Is the taint it's it taint the
asshole, it taint the balls. It's that little patch of is it?
I guess it's like a muscle between your balls and your
anus. Is that actually?
Yeah, the the pelvic floor muscle is beneath the surface
there, the perineum, I think of it as, yeah, that patch of skin
in between the testicles in the anus.
So we can locate it on our body just by placing our hand right
underneath our root there in that area of skin between the
balls and anus. And yeah, there's more to the
perineum then lies on the surface.
The public floor as we know is is right underneath there.
But just to help men understand and locate that, if you're not
already aware, that's the perineum.
So you're saying that's that's where the microcosmic orbit
starts or that's one of the nodes within it?
Yeah, that's that's a lowest point you could say in the orbit
and the the top point just being the top of the head.
And just for context, this is coming from a lot of the
traditional Chinese medicine approaches to some of the
energetic bodies, if you will, of, of our physical bodies.
You know, there's like the, the physical plane, the emotional
plane, there's this energetic plane.
And the best is we can describe it right now, because I think a
lot of science is still catching up with ways of monitoring and
measuring this stuff is, is that it's essentially electromagnetic
energy that's moving through the body, through the fascia and
through these energetic meridians as they're taught in
traditional Chinese medicine. And as we learn to direct our
focus into moving this energy up and down in a practice that
we'll we'll give guys a little bit later here, you can start to
feel this energy actually moving up and down your spine.
So yeah, the the circuit runs from the perineum, from the the
sexual floor, the pelvic floor, you know, up the back of the
spine and then to the top of the head.
And as I mentioned, down the front side of your body, through
your tongue, they teach. And then down the fascia all the
way down through your organs and down into your sexual center,
again reconnecting to the perineum.
So it's kind of this loop, if you can imagine, that runs over
your entire spine from front to back.
All right, so if you're listening in and you're a little
unclear on what this is or where it is, just hold tight because
Ben, I know you're going to offer up a little guided
practice, which if you're listening and you're driving a
car or wherever, if you're out for a walk, no worries.
This is a really simple guided practice that we can engage
wherever we are in life. And it's a great one to engage
with during lovemaking. So let's just get into it.
Ben. Yeah, I'm going to turn it over
to you if there's anything else you want to speak to before
dropping us into a little guided practice.
I feel like getting into it with some experience, experiential,
you know, practice is going to be the best way to really
explain what this is, how we use it.
So over to you. Yeah, yeah, I know.
Happy to get into it. I think the best way for people
to understand it, as you said, is to experience it.
So the only last disclaimers I would give besides, yeah, don't
be operating machinery or doing this practice while you're
driving or you know, make sure you're in a safe place because
sometimes. So just disregard what I said
earlier I guess. What did you say?
I was like, no worries if you're driving.
Oh, you'll be fine. No, sorry, I thought.
You know, just keep keep a good amount of your awareness and
attention on the road or on you wanna.
You wanna retake it actually. No, no, no.
Let's keep it. We're not.
We don't do retakes in here. I mean, I just wanted to get
clear on the logistics 'cause I I this camp of people into like
kind of a trance, so I just don't want them to be driving
actually. But we could include all of this
too. But.
So follow along at your own discretion.
MSM is not responsible. Let's get into it.
I'll just, I'll just run with it.
OK. So yeah, I would love to guide
everybody in experiencing this first hand here.
So what we'll do is guide you in a short practice.
I would recommend not doing this while you're driving or
operating machinery. Hawks, I just had a quick cut
talking about that. But yeah, the one little
disclaimer with this is that in the beginning, for a lot of
guys, they can be completely numb.
They cannot feel anything. And then when they're not
feeling anything, there can be this kind of loop that can
happen where they get frustrated and their breath gets shorter,
they start clenching and it just compounds the the numbness.
Actually, my invitation for you is no matter where you are, just
allow your experience to unfold and just keep staying in the
breath. This is kind of like a
meditation. You could say this is a form of
a meditation. We say this is like a
psychosomatic training wheels to guide you into the sensations,
you know, using prompts, using concepts from the mind to get
you into the feeling. And we say in our practice, the
more you relax, the more you feel, the more you feel, the
more the energy moves. So as you're following along in
this practice, just release all expectations of anything
happening. Some guys can really feel it out
the gate, some guys don't. But I guarantee you if you
practice this over time you will begin to feel it.
OK, so with that, I'll invite everybody to find a place
wherever you're listening in from.
Closing the eyes, seated, taking a big breath in, excelling with
a sigh. This might need a nice upright
posture. And we're going to begin just by
breathing into the what's called the lower Don Tien.
This is the area just below the belly button so you can place
one hand over the other over your lower belly.
And as you inhale, allow your hands to slowly move out and
then let out a sigh on that exhale.
Just finding your own deep rhythm of belly breathing here.
Big inhales sign on the exhale. Now, just continuing to stay in
that rhythm of deep belly breathing, what we're going to
be doing here is stacking some practices on top of this
foundation. But it's important for you to
know that if at any point you lose your breath, that is the
foundation of the practice, the rest of the practice will fall
apart. So if at any point you lose
yourself, you get caught in the mind, you lose your breath, the
invitation is just to come straight back into this deep
breathing into the lower Don tien to the lower belly.
So as you listen to my voice now continuing to stay in this
relaxed, gentle, deep, deep breathing into the lower belly
sign on that exhale. All right.
And now as you continue breathing, I'm going to invite
you to take your finger and place it between your the back
of your, underneath your balls, behind your balls, between your
balls and your anus. Just pressing up here into this
area, the taint, the perineum. This is just to bring awareness
here. Now just breathing into this
area, feeling any sensations here.
We're going to guide you in a few basic practices that will
assist in building the microcosmic orbit.
The 1st is the Kegel, and many of you may be aware of this
practice. This is essentially the motion
you make if you were to imagine you're peeing and you stop
peeing. So when you stop peeing, you
feel that lift up. Imagine you're peeing, let's say
like on a tree and someone walks up and see with your finger
placed there, if you can feel that little muscular contraction
drawing up, just pulse it a few times.
OK, that's a kegel. This is a pump for our sexual
energy. Now the inverse of the kegel is
what's called the reverse kegel. And in this motion, it's, it's
similar to, to begin it, you imagine you're pooping and you
kind of can push out just a little bit on your rectum and
then see if you can relax your whole pelvic floor.
It's like the that little push initiates it and then you just
relax everything and let it drop.
And this might just be very almost imperceptible, like
dropping at a millimeter. So see if you can pull up a
kegel first of all, and then see if you can release it with a
reverse kegel. Slight pooping motion, just
letting the whole perineum droop down.
OK, that's a reverse kegel complete release.
OK, so kegel up, stopping the flow of urine and reverse kegel
letting it all drop down. And you should feel your finger
raising and lowering with that. You can also practice this in
front of the mirror. You can see your balls come up
and down if you do it that way. OK, so we're going to be using
the reverse kegels and the kegels now in combination with
the breath. So before we begin, we're going
to place the tongue to the roof of the mouth.
So take your tongue and just gently place it up to the upper
palate of your mouth, just behind your front teeth or the
center of your mouth. Can even be in the back of your
mouth anywhere. We'll do this is what is taught
to connect the Renmi and the Dumai.
It's like a little circuit breaker.
When babies are born, they have their tongue sitting here.
And this is where traditional Chinese medicine got this
practice. And they say this is connecting
the the full microcosmic orbit circuit.
So with your tongue now connected to the roof of the
mouth as you inhale, I'm going to invite you to imagine that
there's golden light streaming in through the air, through your
nostrils, big breath into your belly, allowing your pelvic
floor to drop with that reverse kegel.
And then as you exhale, you make a slight kegel and reimagine
that golden light is traveling up your spine from the back of
your tailbone all the way up your spine to the back of your
head, spilling down the front of your head.
And as you inhale again, it's traveling down through the
tongue, down, down, down golden light all the way into the
belly. As you inhale with a reverse
Kegel, exhale with a kegel engaging, pumping that golden
light in the sexual center up the back of the spine, all the
way the top of the head, and continuing with the synchronized
breathing. Inhaling down with a reverse
Kegel golden light down, exhale with a Kegel golden light coming
up the back. This can be a lot to juggle at
once, so give yourself a little bit of time here.
Breathing down, Exhaling up. With every breath, seeing if you
can slow it down, see if you can relax even more.
See if you can bring a little smile to the face, remembering
this is just a game. Softening the shoulders, the
jaw, sinking into your seat. Notice if you relax a little
more, you may feel just a little more following your awareness,
this golden light streaming down the front channel, up the back,
inhaling down with a reverse kegel, filling that belly,
filling the sexual center, and exhaling with a kegel, sending
it up the back all the way to the top of the head and down the
front of the face. Taking another breath here, one
more cycle. On this next exhale, I'm going
to invite you to imagine that there's a fork that's being drug
from your tailbone, your butt hole, let's say, right as you
engage your perineum on that kegel.
And that fork is tracing the golden light coming up your
spine and it's dragging all the way to the top of your head.
And as you inhale, it's coming down over the face of the neck,
down the front of the torso, over the sexual organs with that
reverse kegel with the balls to the perineum.
And then as you begin that kegel, it continues tracing a
fork just being drug lightly over your spine.
Imagine the sensation of what that would feel like staying in
the breath. Staying in this relaxed focus,
taking one more circuit here in your own timing, and we'll
slowly close the practice there, releasing all the practice,
slowly opening the eyes, seeing if you can stay in the feeling
of the practice with your breath and notice if you can continue
doing the kegels and the reverse kegels with your eyes open.
The invitation is to bring this practice not just to the
bedroom. It's a powerful way to be moving
sexual energy up your spine when you're in lovemaking or solo
cultivation. Self pleasure, but also notice
what this does when you're out standing in line at a coffee
shop, when you're sitting in traffic, when you're at your
computer, when you're with your partner in a non sexual way just
having dinner. When we bring this practice into
our daily lives through consistent daily practice.
Again, this is internal martial arts.
With consistency, it can start to.
Bring presents and state change to every moment and when we can
regulate ourselves and we can tap into this subtle pleasure.
And some of you may have already felt there's like a subtle
amount of pleasure or tingling moving up and down the spine
which comes online little by little.
The more you practice it, the more we can learn to Make Love
and all the subtle moments. And this allows us to build a
sexual simmer you could say with our partners but also with life.
So this practice is a really powerful way for us to regulate
our nervous systems, to get into really deep coherence within
ourselves and circulate sexual energy even in non sexual
spaces. So that's a basic practice of
the microcosmic orbit, everybody.
I hope you enjoyed it and Hawks, I'd love to pass it back to you
and see if you had any additional thoughts or
adaptations. You you give men who are just
beginning this practice. Sure.
Thanks for guiding that, Ben. The reverse Kegel that you got
it there on the inhalation, just to reiterate, the reverse kegel
which is the relaxing and the opening of the pelvic floor is
going to be done on the inhalation the majority of the
time during a practice like this.
And that opening of the pelvic floor and the bringing the
dropping of our awareness and attention down into the pelvic
floor, which is a new place for many people to actually bring
their awareness to. I was sharing with you just
before the call ban. I was had a visit with my mom
who's 72 years old this last weekend.
And she through some guided breathing practices that I
shared with her, she connected with her pelvic floor for the
first time in her life consciously.
So whether you're 70 plus years old or you're 17, if you have
not yet connected with the pelvic floor through the breath,
this practice of breathing down into the pelvic floor and
expanding outwards and downwards those pelvic floor muscles as
though you're pushing out a bowel movement like you were
cueing Ben, is the way to bring that awareness into the pelvic
floor and to open and create some softening.
And as you're speaking, Ben, the more that we relax, the more the
energy moves. And as you started out this
podcast speaking to blue balls, that congestion of energy, that
stagnant sexual energy locked in the root and in the testicles,
one of the remedies for that is by keeping the pelvic floor open
so that that energy isn't trapped in there.
It's all it's able to expand upwards.
And that softening on the inhalation and that expanding
and opening of the pelvic floor is one of the keys to this.
And so that's a practice that we can do anywhere, anytime,
whether you're driving or standing in line at the checkout
or, you know, working at your desk or going for a walk or
making love. That simple act of breathing
intentionally down into the pelvic floor opening, expanding
is going to do wonders for so many aspects of life and
including that movement of sexual energy.
So yeah, I just wanted to reiterate the reverse kegel as
an integral practice for just about everyone, I would say.
And yeah, just appreciate you guiding us in that.
I hope it's valuable for any of the listeners out there tuning
in and and dropping into the practice with us.
This has been a really simple, practical introduction to the
microcosmic orbit. And there's many deeper layers
that we could go into. But yeah, we like to keep things
simple and allow the elegance to be there in the simplicity.
And there's always opportunities out there if you want to dive
deeper into some of the concepts around the microcosmic orbit.
But what you shared with us today, Ben, is a great place for
anyone to start or continue to deepen in your practice,
wherever you're at. So yeah, I feel complete with
that. Is there anything else that,
that you'd like to share before we sign off here, Ben?
No, I think that feels complete for this one.
And yeah, thank you brothers for tuning in.
Again, always huge shout out to the brothers in our community
and the training program. You guys make these podcasts
possible. If anyone listening is
interested in joining our community, check out our
website, menssexualmaster.com. We got this and a whole lot
more, a whole boatload more of tools and practices and daily
accountability support, you know, meetings every week.
So I would love to have you and brother if you feel the call and
thanks for tuning in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Next group training. 12 week group training starts up March
26th, I believe. We'd love to see you there.
We got a seat at the table. Let's go.
Yeah. Brothers, see you soon.
Bye. Bye.