Hello everybody, welcome back to the Lila Rose Show.
We are diving in with our weekly roundup.
We did not do one last week our live last week because I was in
Washington DC for a number of meetings, including with the
administration and Secretary of HHSRFK, Robert F Kennedy.
Also for the wonderful March for Life, 100,000 people marching
out in the cold in DC for life. It was so beautiful and amazing.
Today we're going to be tackling, yes, what happened.
I'm going to share some behind the scenes of what happened in
DC. We're also going to be talking
about ICE. Our ICE deportation is humane.
And what is my take right now and what's happening in
Minnesota and Minneapolis? What is the Christian
perspective on all of this? What is fact versus fiction?
There's a lot of media narratives spinning everywhere.
It is out of control. You open social media and there
is somebody shouting about this issue.
I hope to bring some facts that I think are really important for
us all to look at and a perspective that I believe is
rooted in our faith. And then finally, Meghan
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Congratulations to her. There's a new beautiful baby in
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why I think it matters because this is a new trend among the
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All right, everybody. So what is happening right now
with Minnesota? What is happening in
Minneapolis? I'm sure unless you've been
living under a rock, you have seen news stories about this and
maybe you already feel passionately about this.
And I think it's good to feel passionately about this because
it matters. It matters how we secure our
borders. It matters how we treat
immigrants. It matters how our law
enforcement and our federal agents are treated.
It's matters how those federal agents and law enforcement treat
people. All of these things matter,
which why people are so hotly debating it and feel so strongly
about it. So what I want to do first is
something maybe a little bit different.
I want to paint some of the factual background that this
issue that underlies this issue. I think these facts help put
into perspective what is happening in the midst of all of
the inflamed emotions and again, understandably inflamed.
So let's take a step back and look at just kind of globally
immigration for just a moment. Immigration with regards to
illegal entry, people that enter countries illegally, immigration
with regards to, of course, our country in the history of
illegal immigration and the the treatment of the past few
administrations of illegal immigration and of our border.
So first of all, I think it's important to note that here's a
map out here that's so interesting.
It's important to note that it is the case for most nations
today to have punishment for illegally entering their
country. So this is exceedingly normal
that countries have rule of law around their borders, they have
borders that they secure and they have punishments for people
who enter their country illegally.
If you've been to a country in Europe and you needed permission
to be there, there as an example, that country has laws
that govern who can enter the nation, right, Their nation.
There are countries that these are countries that deport.
These are countries that also many of them detain those that
are under deportation, potential proceedings.
And there's other punishments too for illegal entry that
include fines. So if you look at this map right
here as an example, most nations in the world do have punishment
for illegal entry, including deportation, detainment, which
is what happens often in the United States too, as well as
fines and other punishments. Most of Europe has this,
certainly in the United States has this.
Most countries, many countries in Africa has this.
So this is exceedingly normal. And the United States of course,
has it. And that's what's under under
the debate right now, is the debate right now.
Are these just, are these proceedings just secondly, what
is the state of immigration in the United States?
Well, as of just 2023, it was estimated that there was up to
14,000,000 undocumented immigrants in the United States.
Some people are saying now it's 20 million.
So in the last, under the Biden administration, the borders
were, you know, left largely unsecured.
Many people accused the Biden administration of that.
We had a huge influx of undocumented immigration, of
illegal immigration into the country.
Another thing that's really important to note is that
America is one of the top nations that has illegal
immigration. So when you look at the kind of
swath of nations globally and you look at which nations have
illegal immigration into their country, America is only second
to one other nation. So I'm going to pull up this map
here, Harris, if you've got this.
So if you click on, if you click on illegal immigration rate, the
second tab, here we go at the top of the document, you got it.
It says that Russia, according to this 2025 data, Russia has an
8% illegal immigration rate, very high.
I don't know if this is the case actually as of today.
This is in I think in the last two or three years, it's saying
this is 2026 data. But I'm going to give a little
nuance. It might be actually immediate
to January of 2026. the United States has 3%, a 3% illegal
immigration rate. Malaysia is at 2%, France is at
less than 2%, South Africa is at 1.5.
All right, so then you look at the estimated maximum illegal
immigration population and according to this data, and
again, this is not perfect data, but you can see roughly the,
the, the, the ranges here. Russia, it's saying, has 12
million illegal immigrants, America 11.4.
Again, that might be as high as 20 million, depending on what
statistics you're looking at. India is saying 10 million,
France 1.2, Bangladesh 1.2. I bring this up because I want
people to understand this is a uniquely intense problem in the
United States, that we have issues with our border and
issues with undocumented immigration in our country.
Now, you might not have to, you know, you'd have to be living
under a rock and have no sensibility of what's happening
globally to know why that might be.
At least one reason why that is, is because America is an
extremely attractive place to go to.
And this should be everyone living in the United States
right now, everyone who is blessed to be an American
citizen who is able to live in this beautiful country for all
of our problems. We are so privileged.
And I want to just take a moment as we're talking about this
issue that has so many important angles and there's so much to,
you know, explore about, you know, how do we protect human
dignity and also rule of law? Just to be grateful to thank God
that you have the opportunities you have in America.
And may we all, and I'm going to just say this almost as a prayer
here, may we all use the freedoms and the security that
we enjoy in America for the good of other people.
That's, I mean, our responsibility as certainly for
us who are Christians right now. And certainly I think the good
responsibility of any citizen is to use our freedoms for the good
of other people, to use the gifts we've been given,
including the security, the economic opportunities for the
good of other people. And for as hard and as bad as it
can get for people individually and collectively in the United
States, we are doing so well. When you compare us at large to
other nations globally, we have so many freedoms, so many
blessings. So let's see all of this through
the lens of, I hope, magnanimity or generosity.
When we're considering other people who want a piece of
America, I want a piece of what we have have because we are so
blessed, we are so privileged. And we should treat that with
special consideration when we think about how we use our
lives. And also to respect rule of law,
because we want to respect our nation's laws and to be grateful
for the freedoms that we've been given.
So the reality is illegal immigration is a real problem.
There's real challenges beyond just the fact of more
undocumented people here. There is the problem of illegal
immigrants, immigrants who are committing crime.
You've heard the horror stories of some of the violent crimes
that have been committed from people who have come across the
border illegally. You may have also heard some of
the horror stories of human trafficking that occurs at our
border. When there is porous, A porous
border, you have the coyotes or you have the, you know, gangs
who are doing the cartels, who are doing drug trafficking, who
are doing human trafficking. So there is real human cost to
undocumented immigration to a porous border.
And this is one of the many reasons why so many people
support enforcing our immigration policy.
There is majority support, including among Democrats and
Republicans, for the deportation of illegal immigrants who are
violent offenders. That is something that most
people agree on. So where does the controversy
come in? The controversy comes in when
you're dealing with this mass influx of illegal immigration
like we had under Biden because of a porous border.
Trump is in office now, and he is now doing mass deportations.
I want to take a minute to look at what those deportations look
like and compare them for just a moment to Obama, because Obama
was the last Democrat president who also did mass deportations.
He was criticized for it. By the way, some people say, oh,
nobody criticized Obama for this.
Yes, he was criticized for it. I know people personally that
were doing advocacy, see, against Obama at the time for
his deportation policies. And there was certainly outcry,
not as much as there is against Trump now, but there was outcry
about Obama's mass deportation policies.
Biden didn't have these same policies, so he adjusted
deportation policies, but it was pretty strong.
You know, the deportation numbers were very high under
hundreds of thousands annually under Obama, as they are now
under Trump. So let's just take a look at
what does deportation look like both under Obama and Trump.
Again, this context I think is really important. 5% Let's talk
about Trump first, according to the Cato Institute, which is a
pretty bipartisan, nonpartisan institute, pretty libertarian.
5%, Let's pull up the statistic if you can.
Harris, 5% of people detained by ICE have violent convictions.
73% have no convictions. So this is from November 2025.
So this is the current look at how we're deporting people.
So most of the people, the large majority of the people who are
being deported right now do not have violent convictions.
Now, if you look at Obama, let's just just for context, go back
to the, you know, eight years of Obama and his administration.
You can pull up this article here at the New York Times.
So this is from the New York Times, the source, and I'll just
say what it says. It says that since 2008, so this
is under Obama, 2/3 of the immigrants deported from the
United States committed only minor traffic violations or had
no criminal record at all. So Obama was deporting 2/3 of
immigrants with no violent record and another 20%.
So this was his, you know, the cohort of people that had a
criminal record, 20% had a criminal record or faced drug
charges. So it has been a typical policy
of both the Trump administration, now even more
under Trump, but it was the same case under Biden to deport
nonviolent, sometimes people with no criminal record, not
even a drivers driving infraction under those
immigration policies. Now, how can we, how do we, how
should we look at this as Christians, as Christians that
we know, we know that the rule of law does matter.
We have a responsibility to live by the rule of law.
We also know that we've been told again and again, Scripture
tells us again and again to welcome the stranger, to treat
the foreigner with justice and mercy, to be hospitable.
So we have these two things that we are weighing.
And I want to actually read some of what you all know, that I'm
Catholic. I think the Catholic Church has
done some beautiful work in developing a a better
understanding of how to see immigration and how to look at
immigration policy. And I want to read some quotes
from an encyclical called Brotherly Love that that was
published, I think just a few years ago.
It's fairly recent, Fratelli Tutti, as well as some language
from the Catechism about immigration law and the
treatment of immigrants and also respect for for for law.
So I'm going to start with this quote from Fratelli Tutti.
This is 2253. This was an encyclical, one that
came out when Pope Francis was our Pope.
He says this is about how we should think about immigration
enforcement in part. And I'm going to tie this in
more later, but listen to what? Listen to what Pope Francis says
here. He says when injustices haven't
have occurred on both sides, we're going to get into it.
I haven't even mentioned the name of, of of what's happening
specifically in Minneapolis, of Alex Jeffrey Petty.
I haven't even talked about this specifically.
We're going to get to that. But I think this context is
really important. When injustices have occurred on
both sides, it is important to take into clear account whether
they are equally grave or in any way comparable.
Violence perpetrated by the state using its structures and
power is not on the same level as that perpetrated by
particular groups. Now, this is, I think, a very
important point and a lens for us to understand the violence
that's happening in the streets of Minneapolis where we see
violent altercations between protesters, some of them
behaving very improperly. And then we see violence by ICE
officers, some of them even using guns to shoot protesters
because, you know, in their case, they will say, well, I was
fighting back in self-defense. And here Fratelli Tutti is
telling us, and I think this is something that any conservative
could agree with, violence perpetrated by the state using
its structures and power is not on the same level as that
perpetrated by particular groups.
So while I think it is very important to urge respect for
law enforcement, to urge the peaceableness of communities to
cooperate with law enforcement, to cooperate with federal
agents, there's also, of course, a right to protest, to peaceful
protest. And the government has a
responsibility even when there is unruly protest, even when
there are criminals. And this isn't just for the
issue of illegal immigration. This is for the issue of any
issue, right? Anytime when there is violent
crime in your city, the government has the
responsibility to hold itself to a high standard where, yes, if
there's a violent criminal doing terrible things terrorizing a
city, the government still has to hold itself to the high
standard of, of enacting justice.
It can't just go out vigilante justice just shooting the
criminals because we're mad at the criminals.
Of course not. That's not how our law
enforcement works. Good law enforcement officers
every day doing the brave work that they do.
They're out there holding themselves to the high standard
of we're going to give due process even to this criminal,
even this criminal who is a maybe a raving lunatic or this
person that is doing total crime and chaos in my city, they still
deserve due process. And that is of course, our
American system of governance. And This is why one of the many
reasons you and me should be so grateful to live in this
country, because our government is held to the standard and
holds itself to the standard. So let's go now zoom back to
immigration. This is a a very important,
another very important quote, I think from Fratelli 2D that I
wanted to read. Complex challenges arise when
our neighbor happens to be an immigrant.
So now it's talking specifically about the issue of immigration.
Complex challenges arise when our neighbor happens to be an
immigrant. Ideally, unnecessary migration
ought to be avoided. So they're saying ideally
unnecessary migration ought to be avoided.
What the Pope is saying here is that you shouldn't be just
immigrating for the sake of immigrating.
People who immigrate should be doing it because of a serious
reason. So people that just say, well, I
have a right to just show up in every other country and just
show up and let me in, that is actually not the right of any
person to do so. You don't have the right to just
enter another country because you want to.
And this note is being made here very clearly.
It goes on to say this entails creating in countries of origin
the conditions needed for a dignified life and integral
development. Yet, until substantial progress
is made in achieving this goal, we are obliged to respect the
right of all individuals to find a place that meets their basic
needs and those of their families and where they can find
personal fulfillment. Our response to the arrival of
migrating persons can be summarized by 4 words.
Welcome, protect, promote, and integrate.
Now, this is challenging and this is also, there's so much
scriptural basis for this about welcoming the stranger, opening
your arms to welcome the person that is the the foreigner.
There's a challenge here. It's not just welcome them when
it's convenient, it's welcomed them regardless of the
challenges that it may pose. If they are in need, if they're
destitute, if they need, you know, they're fleeing something,
you know, war or poverty, they need help.
Do your best to help them is really the underlying principle
here, scripturally and biblically and and as
Christians. So what does that mean for
immigration policy? Well, it's messy, of course.
What does that look like? Many of the people entering this
country are not entering this country on a lark.
That is true. They're not entering this
country because they're like they woke up one day and like it
would be fun to live in America. I'm going to peace out and go
live in America. Many people who enter this
country, including illegally and legally, because you can come
both ways, are entering this country because they are really
fearing the conditions that they're leaving, whether it's
the poverty, it's the economic uncertainty, it's violent gangs
in their nation of origin. It's, you know, a government
that's chaotic. There's no security where
they're come from. They're seeking better freedom
and opportunities. And I think people addressing
this issue on both sides need to acknowledge that.
We need to acknowledge that this isn't like they're showing up
and coming on a lark. There's often desperation and
and destitution that can drive it.
Not in every case, but in many cases.
Can you come here legally? Yes.
Should that be the pathway that we celebrate and promote the
most? Yes.
But when there are more spots, there are more people who want
spots and spots available. This is where you see the
temptation, of course, for many now millions of migrants to come
here illegally. What is the Christian response?
What is the response of of people that we should, that we
should have? Ultimately, it should be a
posture of welcoming, protecting, promoting and
integration. Now, some people have said,
well, the Catholic Church is getting political here.
They're criticizing President Trump and they don't criticize
the Democrats. It's not fair.
This looks political, etcetera, etcetera.
And I do want to point out that even under Obama, Catholic
Bishops were criticizing Obama. Pope Francis, when he came to
the United States, when Obama was the president, he actually
was criticizing our deportation policy and saying calling it
inhumane. So, you know, well, it may seem
because of media reports that, oh, Catholics bishops or
Catholic leaders are more hard on Trump versus others, there's
been a fair amount of consistency from the Catholic
Bishops about immigration deportation policy and the
criticism that they've had of immigration deportation policy.
I want to read one more quote here for context, though, from
the Catechism, the Catholic Catechism about the treatment of
immigrants. And this is about affirming that
governments have the right and they should regulate immigration
for the sake of common good, public order and safety.
So everything that I said, you know, people are listening to me
like, well, yeah, welcome to stranger, you know, integrate
immigrants. Be understanding all of this.
But Lila, what about rule of law?
And what about the importance of a strong border and national
sovereignty because of all the harm that illegal immigration
can pop, can cause, especially if you're bringing in drugs,
human trafficking and violent offenders.
And this is from the Catechism, and it says 2241.
It says political authorities for the sake of the common good
for which they are responsible. Keep that in mind.
President Trump, he's responsible for the common good.
Your government is responsible for the common good.
You can agree or disagree with how they're living that out.
You might hate, you know, policies or like policies, but
that is their job. The common good they may
exercise. They may make the exercise of
the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions,
especially with regard to the immigrants duties towards their
country of adoption. So this is very important
because it's saying that yes, the government has a right to
regulate and it should regulate immigration, especially with
regard to the immigrants duties towards their country of
adoption. When an immigrant comes to the
United States, they have a duty to follow the law of that
country. They have a duty to assimilate.
They have a duty to live by the laws and the customs, the good
laws and customs. You know, again, if the custom
is we abort our children, the immigrant is adopting that.
I would say that that is immoral and wrong.
They should be here to actually bring as much justice and, and
goodness as they can bring. But if there's good, if there's
law, if there is good customs, then the immigrant should be
working on integrating and adopting that.
That is also part of the responsibility of the immigrant,
just as the government has a responsibility to act with
justice. So I'm going to lay that.
Thank you for for letting me lay that groundwork.
I think that groundwork really matters.
And I think it also helps us understand what's now taking
place in Minnesota. Now, before Alex Pretty was shot
in Minnesota on the streets of Minneapolis, there was a tweet
by Bishop Baron who spoke out about what was happening and
unfolding in in Minneapolis. And this was also after Alex
Good had been shot on the streets.
And so he he what he said, I felt was very on point.
And I remember retweeting it. And I think there was some Flack
that he got from some folks. I may have gotten some too.
But I felt that. And I believe that what Bishop
Baron has to say about what's happening in Minnesota is spot
on. And it appears that now the
Trump administration seems to be aligning more with the
recommendations of, at the time, Bishop Baron.
Now, not because of Bishop Baron necessarily, but I think because
of the fallout and the backlash of what has happened in
Minneapolis. So let's pull up this tweet from
Bishop Baron. He says as a resident of
Minnesota. So he, in the last few years,
was moved to Minnesota. Before that, he was in
California, he says. As a resident of Minnesota and a
Bishop and as Bishop of the Diocese of Winona Rochester, my
heart is breaking over the situation in my home state.
Violence, retribution, threats, protests, deep suspicion of one
another, political unrest, fear, all of it swirling around all
the time. May I make a modest proposal for
exiting this unbearable state of affairs.
The Trump administration and ICE should limit themselves, at
least for the time being, to rounding up undocumented people
who have committed serious crimes.
Political leaders should stop stirring up resentment against
officers who are endeavoring to enforce the laws of the country.
And protesters should cease interfering with the work of
ICE. And everyone on all sides must
stop shouting at one another and demonizing their opponents.
Where we are now at is untenable.
There is a way out now. I believe it was just a few days
later that Alex Pretty was shot, and things have just become even
more inflamed since. But I think this modest proposal
from Bishop Baron still stands. And I think there's some
direction moving. There's a direction now towards
more of a acceptance of such a proposal.
And we'll get to that in a minute.
All right, so let's take a look now at what just happened.
I don't want to get I mean, I have we spent a lot of time at
the show building up a a play by play about what happened with
Alex Pretty what has been the response on the left and the
right? What have been as I see at the
excesses, what are what do I think, you know, what is the
solution? We're going to run through some
of this. There's a lot more I wanted to
get to today. So I think it took a lot of time
ground, you know, laying the ground as I just did.
And I think that is really important, laying that ground of
where we're at and what is the Christian teaching on how we
should see rule of flawed immigration.
But let's just run through this quickly.
You may have heard a lot of this, but I think there's some
important things to point out. So first of all, the day that
Alex Pretty was shot and you probably have seen this footage,
it's just, it's totally tragic. It's devastating.
And if you're somebody in Minnesota who's already upset
about ICE, who already feels that ice is there and shouldn't
be there, who's already upset about, you know, a friend that
feels terrified, terrified because of ice, because of the
color of their skin. And maybe they are an actual
citizen or they are documented, but they're they're asking for
their papers to be checked. And it's they feel terrified.
They're like, where are we? What's going on in my hometown
now or in my city? You can understand how much fury
and pain there was when this viral video went around of Alex
Freddie getting shot to death. Anytime you see anybody shot to
death on video, it should break your heart.
It's a horrible thing. Alex Pretty should be alive
right now. It's devastating.
So let's walk through what happened and also what is the
the reported understanding or experience of ICE who was part
of this altercation? Of course, it was the one that
pulled the trigger. So the day that Alex Pretty was
shot, there were a there was a mission by ICE agents to go
after an illegal immigrant who had an extensive criminal
history, including domestic assault, disorderly conduct,
driving without a license. So they were going after
somebody who did have that criminal history.
And as they were working to do this, there was a protest, a
counter protest ultimately that sprung up against ICE and
Jeffrey Petty was there. Now, Jeffrey Petty, apparently,
as of I think just today or yesterday, there's another story
going around about Alex, Jeffrey Petty, not Jeffrey, Alex,
Jeffrey Petty, about how he has been basically showing up at
these protests now for weeks. And there is a video now of him
clashing with ice. I think it was 11 days before
his death. Let's take a look at this one.
This is another clip that's just going out about Alex where he is
having a tussle with ice. I think he's spinning in their
direction. Let's take a quick look at that.
Can you play that video, Harris? This morning, two of the agents
involved in the fatal shooting of Alex Preti are on
administrative leave, according to DHS officials.
The move comes as a new videos have emerged of Preti from an
incident 11 days before he was killed.
Here you can see Preti approaching the area where a
crowd was already interacting with federal agents.
And in this angle captured by online media outlet The News
Movement, Pretty kicks their car.
The agents respond by tackling him to the ground.
At one point, you can see what appears to be a gun.
It tucked in Pretty's pants. Local officials say Pretty was
legally allowed to carry a handgun.
Pretty's family says they were aware of the previous
altercation, writing a week before Alex was gunned down in
the street. Despite posing no threat to
anyone, he was violently assaulted overnight.
President Trump sharing the video and another user's post
calling Preti a domestic terrorist, despite his previous
efforts to back away from that language used by administration
officials after Preti's death, which has come under fire from
both Democrats and Republicans. OK, so the.
Trump administration has now acknowledged mistake.
So this report here, we can pause it.
So this report here is it's, it's interesting on a number of
levels. So first of all, it notes that
as of now, DHS has put the agents on administrative leave
who, who shot Alex Preti. So that happened that has
happened just recently. It also talks about the this
altercation that Alex pretty had that was captured on camera.
He's kicking the tires of the ice vehicle.
He's spitting in their direction.
He was tackled to the ground after that.
According to some reports, he broke a rib after that and then
he's back out on the streets within 10 days later to do
another ultimately altercation with ice.
Now I'm already looking at the chat.
So thank you guys. The chat is already engaging
here. I promised I would get to it.
And I I think there's some comments here that I want to
just read one chat. One person says Emily says shame
he wasn't arrested in that earlier altercation.
Letting him go emboldened him. It is a good question.
If Alex had been arrested then when he got in a tussle with Ice
and literally was fighting with them, would he be dead today?
You know, would it, would he, would he be with us today if he
had been arrested at that time? I don't know the answer to that
because he could have been arrested and let go.
I'm not sure. But the point is there was
already hostility happening and Alex getting involved in this,
these tussles even before the altercation that took his life.
Now, the fact is, Alex Pretty, and I think everybody agrees
with this, including the left and the right, Alex Pretty was
in fact, impeding law enforcement.
So they were federal agents. People are saying there's a
distinction. Obviously there are federal
agents enforcing federal law. They are federal law
enforcement. He was trying to stop their
missions. That's what he was trying to do.
And he had the right to conceal carry.
He did have that permit. That is a constitutional right
to carry a gun, to be a gun owner.
And so the fact that he had a gun on him and the fact that he
was protesting is within his rights.
It now is no longer within his rights if you get into the area
of he's actually actively impeding an operation because
ICE has the right to arrest someone who is actively impeding
an operation. Sounds like there's an operation
happening off camera right now. By the way, there's, I don't
know if you guys can hear the, the sirens, but I bring this up
because what, what, what Alex pretty did could have, could
have led to his arrest. Instead, it led to his death.
And that's what of course people are outraged about.
They're outraged that ICE was there in the 1st place.
Many people oppose the ICE operation to begin with.
And then second of all, they're outraged because he was shot and
how he was shot. He was shot where he was prone
on the ground in the scuffle. You know, those that defend ICE
said, well, the ICE was, wasn't sure it was going on.
They saw a gun, they knew there was a gun.
They didn't know if Alex was going to be able to grab that
gun. That is all going to be lit
again and I'm not going to litigate that right now because
I that is not my pay grade and that is requires a level of
expertise to understand exactly what was the intent of the ice
officers, what was the experience of the ice officers?
What are all the different camera angles?
What is the time sequencing of all of those actions.
I can say confidently that it is a horrible tragedy that he is
not with us that Alex was killed.
I would say confidently that it appears to most people, and I
can say this for the left and the right, because I've seen,
you know, the the coverage, the wall to wall coverage on this.
It appears to most people that he didn't need to get shot
because he was largely shot in the back.
He was on the ground already and most people are saying, why did
you do that? Doesn't look like you had the
you needed to do that. There could be a case made for
the ICE officer. And I'm sure they'll make the
case that they thought that they were under threat of their life
and they felt they had to do that.
So that's going to be their case.
That's going to get litigated. But I think the bottom line is
we're seeing the inflamed. We're seeing the inflaming of
factions now on both sides, certainly in Minnesota.
And we're seeing the responses from the right saying that DHS,
you know, is doing their job. They're trying to enforce the
law. They're just being attacked by
protesters. You saw the response from the
right. And this was the administration
specifically, when this first took place a week ago, the
administration called Predi a domestic terrorist, saying that
he was on a mission to potentially massacre law
enforcement. So they had already begun to
paint him in the narrative as this violent offender against
ICE. Is there evidence to bear that
out? I don't think so, even with this
previous clip. So that was a very intense stand
that they took. Obviously on the left, the left
is saying that ICE is like the Gestapo, that ICE is, you know,
literally Hitler. I mean, that's really the
argument that they are on this, you know, this, this, this tour
of just terrorizing communities, attacking people.
Is that really the case for every ICE officer?
Of course not. You know, I know people in law
enforcement and Border Patrol and involved with ICE who are
truly trying to restore peace in communities, doing doing the
best that they can. And they believe that they're
doing what's right. They're trying to respect human
dignity, trying to do the right thing thing is that every ICE
officer. No, of course not.
But is that many of them? I would say yes.
So you're seeing this you know, polar hyper polarization on each
side calling each other these names domestic terrorist Hitler,
the Gestapo, modern day Gestapo. I think the the truth, the truth
is somewhere in the middle. And some people who hear me say
this, if you are very much conservative, which I am myself,
but if you are very much involved in these, you know,
aware of these political narratives, you want maybe to
take a strong firm stand in one camp or the other and say, well,
nuance here is not really good because we need to take a strong
stand one way or another. ICE, all bad.
ICE all good. Immigration, all bad.
Immigration, all, all good. Administration, all bad.
Administration, all good, I don't think.
And, and I've heard some conservatives reference the
issue of abortion as a reason as, as almost like a
justification for why we need to take a strong stand on these
other issues. Meaning abortion is black and
white. It's always wrong.
One side is always wrong on it, which is the side that supports
it and the side that rejects it is right.
And use abortion as an example to compare immigration to
saying, well, immigration is black and white too.
And this issue is also black and white.
They are different. These issues are different.
Abortion is black and white. The baby's killed or not killed,
and when you kill a baby, it's the direct and intentional
killing via an abortion that's always wrong.
In the issue of immigration enforcement, there's a lot more
complexity and nuance, and that's where good people on both
sides will have disagreements and have some things that
they're right about. And people on the other side
will have some good points. And I would urge the posture of
understanding and listening to each other instead of going to
war to say you're all bad, you're all wrong, I'm all right,
I'm all good. Because.
And back to our, our, our view of this as Christians and back
to what many of the many Christian leaders, Catholic
Bishops have been recommending. When you're doing mass
deportations of nonviolent offenders of people who came
here illegally, maybe when they were very young and you're we're
tearing apart families. You're basically trying to put a
Band-Aid on the bleeding wound that was the US border.
And the Band-Aid is let's just RIP people out of their
communities and deport them, including against 70 to 95% of
them who are not violent offenders.
It does open the door to tremendous chaos in communities,
to the potential for human rights violations in
communities, to many of the issues that we're seeing right
now. And I think to pretend like,
well, that's not going to happen.
You're not going to have any human rights issues, you're not
going to have any disturbance, and any chaos is not reality.
The reality is, especially if someone's brought here as a
younger person, as a young child, and they start to build a
life here, they're brought here as a young teen and now they're
in college and they've assimilated largely, but they're
not documented. Deporting them is going to
create chaos. And you're seeing the chaos in
many of the stories of fear and consternation coming out of our
communities. Now, some people say, well,
Lila, that's just the left wing media constantly trying to
attack Trump, attack, you know, the right.
They're constantly making these sob stories to try to undermine
rule of law. Yeah, the left wing media does
do that. The left wing media is often
dishonest. They're certainly very dishonest
on abortion. I've seen them be dishonest on a
lot of things. I've seen some right wing media
be dishonest at times. I think overall it's less
dishonest, but I've seen it be dishonest at times.
But we're not like, Oh well, the left wing media is dishonest.
Therefore I think we should do mass deportations.
I don't think that should necessarily be your conclusion
of, well, the right wing or the the left wing is dishonest and
left wing media is dishonest. What I'm trying to say here is
just because the person criticizing your party, your
side is sometimes dishonest or is dishonest on other things or
otherwise you don't respect them, that doesn't mean they're
100% wrong all the time. A broken clock is right, you
know, twice a day. So the fact that somebody, this
is what this is my caution, this is my caution to conservatives
right now, to Christians, to Catholics, My caution certainly
to people who are more on the right like myself, who's a
conservative, Leave a put tribalism aside, put US versus
them, left versus right, left wing media, right wing media,
put it aside. Look at it from a perspective of
what is our posture that we're called to have as Christians?
What it what are the facts of the situation?
And step inside and step out of this warring narratives game.
Because as a Christian, your concern should not be
narratives. Your concern should not be,
well, I need to fight their narrative with my narrative.
Your concern should be the truth, the truth of what it
means to be a Christian and the truth of what is actually
happening in any given situation.
And sometimes your political opponents will be telling the
truth about some things, and we should be listening to both
sides, to our side and to our opponents.
Sometimes we may, we may have something to learn from the
people who politically oppose us.
Your political party should not be your first guiding star for
how to think about politics. Your political media should not
be your first guiding star for how to think about what's
happening in the political realm or in our culture.
Your guiding star should be seeking out the facts as best
you can and navigating how they might be represented differently
from different sides. And your guiding star should be
Scripture should be your faith. As a Catholic, my guiding star
is the tradition of the Catholic Church and the and the wealth of
knowledge of 2000 years of its teachings on faith and morals,
which is all scripturally based. That should be your guiding
star. So where do we leave it with
this, you know, tragedy unfolding in Minnesota?
The good news is after the horrific controversies and by
the way ICE has been hit, you know, ICE agent hasn't died in
Minneapolis. But there was an ICE agent who
had his finger chomped off by a protester.
He is in a tussle with another protester.
She bit his finger cut off. She literally chomped off part
of his finger. So ICE agents are also
experiencing bodily threat and harm.
It's not just protesters. Now, back to that original
principle. The government has a special
responsibility to do justice. And even when the protesters
aren't doing justice, the government still has to do
justice. That's a very important point.
But where are we going to leave it?
OK. The good news is it sounds like
there is some lessening of tension.
I want to credit. Let's see what this pull up.
The quote from President Trump. He had a statement here.
Do we have it to Tim Walz? He had a conversation with
Governor Walz. Tim Walz has been in the news
quite a lot lately. I am glad for one, that he is
not our vice president right now.
I, I will say that. But let's pull up, Governor,
this tweet from Governor Walls. I, I don't know if I have it on
my computer. Do we have it?
Pull it up here. OK, Governor.
Tim Walz, can you zoom into Tadmore Harris?
Governor Tim Walz called me with the request to work together
with respect to Minnesota. It was a very good call and we
actually seem to be on a similar wavelength.
So this is very conciliatory from President Trump, which I
applaud him for. I told Governor Walz that I
would have Tim Holman call him and that what we were looking
for are any and all criminals that have in their position,
any, all criminals that they have in their possession.
And I will be speaking to him. The governor respectfully
understood that and I will be speaking to him in the near
future. He was happy that Tim Homan was
going to Minnesota and so am I. We've had such tremendous
success in Washington, DC, Memphis, TN and New Orleans, LA
and virtually every other place that we have touched.
And even in Minnesota, crime is way down.
You can Scroll down a little bit, Harris.
That's all that we have. So this is and Tim Homan, who is
an American law enforcement officer.
He was designated as the czar for Trump's second presidency.
Tim Homan or excuse me, Tom Homan served during the Obama
administration. So this is a really important
because Tom Homan in that sense is a nonpartisan figure.
He served under Obama. Now, some people on the left
just hate this guy. So, again, I'm not pretending
like the left loves him, but the point is he served under Obama
and he was given, I believe, a presidential rank award.
He was given an award in 2015 by President Barack Obama.
So leave your partisanship behind for a moment, left versus
right. This is somebody that Obama
liked a lot and actually celebrated, you know, gave him
an award. And now President Trump is
saying, OK, I'm going to send this guy because it sounds like
the left can handle him or as liked him in the past.
So I think that's progress. And I like that President Trump
is indicating we're going to pull the criminals.
I think he's referencing, you know, criminals with a criminal
record beyond illegal entry. And those are the people that
we're going to be targeting now, focusing more on in Minnesota
and allowing tensions hopefully to be less inflamed.
And I think this is the right direction for President Trump to
take. All right, you guys, so much
more on this topic to talk about and I'm sure we'll be covering
it in the future. I appreciate everybody for your
comments here. We're going to get to some of
them soon. I want to briefly touch, though,
on Meghan Trainer and my trip to DC.
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All right, so let's move to this other news story that caught my
eye recently. Meghan trainer, a singer, and
she actually has this very beautiful family.
She recently announced that she had given.
She had not given birth. Excuse me.
She had welcomed a new child into her family that she had,
yes, not given birth to, but it is her biological child.
Let's pull up this picture here of Meghan Trainer's announcement
of the birth of this beautiful baby.
Congratulations on this baby. They named her Mikey Moon
Trainer January 18th, born just last week or a little over a
week ago. You can see in this picture
Megan is doing skin contact, cuddling with this newborn baby.
But here's the thing, this baby was born via surrogacy.
Now I'm bringing this up because of course I'm excited about any
new baby. Every new baby is a gift from
God. This is a gift to Megan and her
husband Daryl. What a blessing.
But the the choice of surrogacy is what I want to talk about
because this is an increasing trend.
You might have remember, you might remember when Kim
Kardashian, this was several years ago now, was one of the
first big actors slash models, slash celebrity types to use
surrogacy. She had given birth herself to
her first few children and then she chose a surrogate.
This is what happened in the case of Megan.
Megan emphasized that surrogacy wasn't our first choice.
This is Megan Trainer, she says, but she decided it was the
safest choice after extensive conversations with doctors
because of gestational diabetes and because of traumatic birth
experiences. So she had a body birth
experience and she experienced gestational diabetes in one of
her pregnancies. So then she said I'm not
carrying my future kids. I think this is absolutely
tragic. I, I do not think surrogacy
should be permitted. It should be allowed.
The human rights abuses that open that the doors have opened
to with surrogacy are devastating.
There is basically no checks and balances for people who have
babies via surrogacy. Today.
You can be a single man with even a criminal record and you
can go buy ultimately a baby via surrogacy, get hire a woman even
in another country to be a surrogate for you and have a
baby. This is something that is
happening across the country. It's being used as elites,
though, to sidestep the risks or challenges of pregnancy and
instead have pay someone else to take those risks and challenges
on. Here's the reality According to
surveys and data that has been collected, surrogacy is actually
dangerous for surrogates. So there was a a study done
recently, this is from the Guardian 2024.
Surrogates face higher risk of pregnancy complications.
Women who act as pregnancy surrogates appear to have a
higher risk of pregnancy complications than those who
carry their own babies. The use of surrogates or
gestational karyos have boomed in recent years, but the risks
are increased, including severe postpartum hemorrhage and severe
preeclampsia than women who conceive naturally.
So the reality is, of course, pregnancy comes with risk.
Birth experiences can be beautiful or not so beautiful.
I know many first time moms have a really rough first birth
experience. It's really tough.
My second birth was much easier than my first.
I'm not trying to downplay Meghan Trainer's maybe fear of
birth or maybe gestational diabetes.
That is not, you know, not not something that shouldn't be,
that should be ignored. Of course, if you have
gestational diabetes, you need to work better on monitoring
that pregnancy and and your health.
But these are the reasons now we are buying another person's body
temporarily to literally gestate our own children.
And I think about Megan's other kids.
I think about the fact that they were safely nestled and bonding
with their mother in so many beautiful ways as unborn babies.
And now this third child didn't get that opportunity.
And that is a tragedy. And so I think along with all of
the abuses that surrogacy opens the door for, there's also the
tragedy of the lack of that bond that is immediately formed
because that little baby spends its entire first nine months of
life nestled inside the body of his or her mother and hearing
literally the heartbeat and the voice of his or her mother.
Keep that in mind. Like this baby that was handed
over to Megan has never heard her heartbeat before, has never
heard her voice before. She's a completely foreign
entity to this baby, almost like she's an adoptive mother or
someone that's a complete stranger as opposed to getting
the welcome of the voice and the the warm embrace of the mother
that had carried carried her. So I don't want us to normalize
surrogacy. I don't want us to celebrate it.
I don't think it should be permitted.
And as wonderful as it is that this baby is welcomed now
safely, praise God, it is not a practice that we should be
celebrating. The practice is the problem.
The baby's never the problem. The practice, the method of the
carrying or even the conception can be the problem.
All right, I promised you guys I would talk to you about DC.
So I just got back from Washington, DCA few days ago.
It was an amazing trip. I was really moved by the
they're estimating 100,000 people.
I don't know if we have a marked picture.
I know we're going to show the picture with Secretary Kennedy,
but there were an estimated, if you go to my Instagram, you'll,
you can pull some of the images. There were an estimated 100,000
people marching the streets of DC.
Now I've had some people tell me, Lila, why are we still
marching for life? Roe V Wade is overturned.
The reason we marched for life in January was because of Roe V
Wade back in 1973 being decided in January.
And so people say, you know, it's overturned now because of
Dobsy Jackson and so and you know, in June 2022.
So why are we still marching for life in DC in just in January?
And my response is this, I see truly how life changing this
event has been now for decades for millions, ultimately of
young people who do brave the snow and the sleet and the cold
to stand up for life. And we are living in a post Roe
America. But the impact of Roe V.
Wade continues to live on because it didn't just change
our law when abortion was legalized on demand in 1973.
It changed the country's culture.
It changed our society dramatically because now the
law, being a teacher, the law is a teacher, the law was now
teaching people that abortion was totally OK and it was a
woman's right and all the rhetoric and the politics that
came with that. And so I think marching, you
know, do I wish the March was a different month?
In one sense, yes. Would I like to see a March in
June to March about, you know, to celebrate the good parts of
Dobsy Jackson and call for complete abolition of abortion,
make it completely eradicated federally?
Yes. And and we do have events around
the time of the Dobsy Jackson case in June.
But I think there's a legacy here that's valuable and there's
a habit that's been formed that's valuable because I know
for a fact that when young people March for life, I've seen
it myself, it inspires them in a special way to be out there with
10s of thousands of other people marching also for life.
It leaves an indelible mark that they remember and it helps with
their own journey of pro-life advocacy and activism.
So also being out there for the March for Life, I gave a ton of
talks I was doing. I was very busy and I was
blessed to go out there with my kids.
So we were able to have some wonderful play dates with
friends that I have out there as well.
And then I just tried to cram work and just get a bunch of
work done. And what I was able to do was a
debate at Georgetown University that was great.
You can see that on the live action YouTube.
We did a press conference on Capitol Hill calling for the
abortion pill to be taken off the market.
We had meetings with the administration and Secretary
Kennedy. One of the the facts that many
people don't realize on the pro-life issue is that the
majority of abortions today are done via the chemical abortion
pill. This is the reason abortions
have increased in the last three years.
Some people are saying, well, pro-life laws don't work.
Pro-life laws work if the federal government isn't
allowing the abortion pill to be illegally sold across state
lines. And that's what's happening.
Tragically, the reality is the abortion pill is being sold
across state lines. And you can order the abortion
pill to your home by literally pressing a button.
You can do a very brief Zoom call effectively with a medical
provider who's not even necessarily a medical provider,
who will ship the mail, the pills to your doorstep or your
mailbox. And This is why over 60% now of
abortions are the abortion pill. Now what does this mean?
And not only means that we have over 1,000,000 abortions a year
now, with over 600,000 of them being the abortion pill.
It means that it's the Wild West for unregulated and very
dangerous abortions. Not just lethal for the baby,
but dangerous for the mom. There was a study by the ethics
public, the Ethics and Public Policy Center that came out last
year that surveyed insurance data of women who had abortion.
So it was anonymized data. It wasn't like telling any
people's personal medical records.
But it found from Acesta, a sample of hundreds of thousands
of women that the women that took the abortion pill, one out
of every 22 of them landed in the emergency room and one out
of every ten of them had serious adverse side effects from the
abortion pill. So the abortion pill almost 100%
of the time kills the baby. Sometimes actually the baby
survives. It's very rare.
And sometimes the baby can be saved via the abortion pill
reversal method that women may opt to take.
Thank praise God, 7000 babies have been saved that way.
But in virtually every case, the the large majority of the babies
killed and then in one out every 10 cases, the woman has serious
adverse side effects. One out of every 22 cases she
lands in the emergency room. To put this in perspective, and
this was even shared with me in the meeting I'm about to tell
you about. To put this in perspective, if
the FDA, the FDA knows of any drug that is causing one out of
every 10 people who take it to have serious adverse side
effects, they have the policy to pull that drug from the market.
You take that drug off the market should not be on the
market because that is a dangerous drug.
Well friends, the abortion pill is on the market right now and
not only is it on the market, it was illegally put on the market
under President Clinton way back when.
In 2000. The Food and Drug Administration
bypassed their own protocols and illegally authorized its use
without any really studies or regulations being followed.
Protocols being followed and they put the abortion pill on
the market RU 486. They were required at the time 3
doctors visits to confirm that the baby was in the womb instead
of in the fallopian tubes. To confirm it wasn't an ectopic
pregnancy. To check gestational age of the
baby because these pills are supposed to be taken in the
first trimester when the baby is little, not when the baby is
older. And also to check on the woman
after the abortion pill has been taken to confirm that there's no
baby parts left inside of her and the babies actually had been
killed. I mean, it's horrific, right?
But that was the original policy under Clinton, who was a raging
pro abort. Remember, President Clinton
refused to sign the Partial Birth abortion ban act.
He wanted partial birth abortion to be legal.
That's how pro abortion Clinton was.
But he even said there should be 3 doctors visits.
Obama removed one of the doctor's visits or actually two
of the doctor's visits. And then President Biden during
COVID removed the last doctor's visit.
So now you can order these lethal drugs directly to your
door. No doctor to be seen.
What does this mean? It means that if you're a woman
with an ectopic pregnancy, that's one to 2% of all women
who get pregnant have an ectopic pregnancy.
The baby is not in the womb. She's he or she is not in the
uterus. They're in the fallopian tube or
elsewhere. You take it.
You take an abortion pill with that situation, the baby can
still be killed, but the baby can't be expelled in the same
way because they're in the fallopian tube.
It can kill the mother. There could be an internal
hemorrhaging, bleeding and death for the mother.
It's extremely dangerous. Also, these babies could be a
lot older and the mother's taking the abortion pill.
There's no way to ascertain the gestational age because there's
no ultrasound right now. So the mother and this this has
happened. These are horrible cases.
Live Action News reports us all the time.
The baby could be 20 weeks old. The baby could be 8 months old
and a mother can take the abortion pill and it can cause
profound horrific suffering for that baby.
It can cause a late term abortion.
Sometimes the baby can be born alive.
This has happened by the way. And again, it's the Wild West.
So let me just share briefly my meeting, what I can share with
you. We were able to meet with
Secretary Kennedy. Here's a picture of from that
meeting. I was able to talk with him.
I was surprised. I was impressed that Secretary
Kennedy knew as much as he knew. I went in there not sure about
the posture because Secretary Kennedy has said before he
supports abortion. This is not some pro-life person
saying I love being a pro-life and I wanted to protect babies.
He said some comments that seemed to indicate pro-life
support. So it's been a bit mixed.
But overall he's said as when he campaigned for president that he
supported abortion. He seemed well aware of some of
the risks of the abortion pill. And I can say that the
administration is, is indicating publicly and and privately that
they are looking into the abortion pill.
They're doing their own research to ascertain whether it's safe
or not. Now, none of that is acceptable
when you consider it is definitely not safe.
Forget for the mother for a minute, it's lethal for the
baby. There's no way for the abortion
pill to be made safe, safe. It's designed to kill a baby,
starve to death and forcibly expel a baby.
So in that sense, there is no grounds whatsoever under which
the abortion pill should be legal and on our market, because
the FDA is supposed to protect the American people, that
includes unborn people, from lethal drugs that are designed
to harm and not heal. And the abortion pill is
designed to kill. That's its whole job is to kill.
And I'm talking about mythopristone used as an
abortifacion because some people are listening and say, well,
Lila, it's also used to complete a miscarriage after the baby has
passed. That's totally fine.
Sell that all you want. If the baby has already passed
and you're trying to complete a miscarriage, it's totally
acceptable. The baby is living and you're
trying to kill the baby. It is completely unacceptable.
So where I'll leave it as this. We were able to have a
conversation. I do think the administration
cares about what the base is saying, what the pro-life people
care about and say the pro family base.
We need to raise our voices very loudly right now and say,
President Trump, pull the pill for the market.
It's deadly for babies, it's dangerous for women.
And they are hearing. They are hearing it and it does
impact what they do. So that is my bottom line here
after my meetings, after my advocacy and activism in DC, we
have to speak louder. Live Action will be doing more
investigative reporting. So go check out what we're doing
over at Live Action and support what we're doing.
And we're going to continue to raise the alarm about these
deadly drugs. And I believe that if enough
people speak out, we will see action.
So pray for the abortion pill to be taken off the market and call
on Congress. We have a petition over at
liveaction.org. We are doing a lot of activism
around this and work. Call on Congress, call on the
FDA. Congress does have a role to
play, but I'll, I'll, I'll explain what their role is in a
minute. Call on the FDA, call on the
administration to pull the abortion pill.
What are we calling in Congress to do?
And ultimately it will include Trump.
Complete defund of Planned Parenthood.
That's the other big objective this year for the public
movement politically pull the abortion pill and we need
complete defunding of Planned Parenthood.
They have been defunded for one year and it is time, you know,
and this is not even all of their funding.
It's most of their funding federally, but not all.
We need to make that funding complete and permanent.
So please, if you're not already following live action, please do
that because we need the whole movement to be engaged right
now. And these are the political
fights that we are fighting. All right, I'm going to take a
minute to look at the chat here. Thank you everybody for tuning
in today. So First off here, this is from
Silver Bear saying I truly do hope this administration does
something about the prevalence of these pills.
I totally agree, Wandervy says. Ali Beth Stuckey says that
adoption fixes a broken situation and that surrogacy
creates 1. Yes, this is the messaging also
of our the great Katie Faust. I'm very proud to be part of a
campaign she's running about how children deserve a mother and a
father. And she says this as well, that
adoption fixes a broken situation.
This is why we celebrate adoption as pro lifers, but we
don't celebrate surrogacy because surrogacy is designed to
bring a new life into the world, often to break those core bonds
that that they deserve to have with their mother and their
father. But adoption is when their
mother and their father isn't able to care for them.
And so there's somebody else that can help heal that broken
relationship. Another comment here, this is
from K Fine. He says, or I think she says.
I remember when our when my sister, a nurse in the
Philippines back then, tried to visit the US to see our
relatives but was asked to turn back around because she was seen
as a potential illegal immigrant.
And this was during the Obama administration.
So, you know, again, nations have the right to do this.
They have the right to regulate their borders.
This is where I think people accuse the left of being
inconsistent because some people on the left, when you really
push them, they're like, yeah, open borders.
I support no border. And that's not tenable.
No, virtually no country has that.
But borders matter. And this is, again, where rule
of law matters. But then how do we humanely
enforce rule of law and also recognize if someone's been here
illegally for many decades, brought here illegally as a
child, is it worth the chaos and the potential inhumane
treatment? Is it the right thing to do, to
do a mass deportation policy? And that's why a lot of Catholic
Bishops are saying, no, actually, that's not the right
move, Secure the border. But mass deportations,
indiscriminate deportations is not the solution.
Chicago says whatever you did for the least of my brethren,
you did it for me. The Lord allows us to see you in
the most marginalized. Lord allow us to see you in the
most marginalized of society. Allowed us to remember that
undocumented immigrants are still human beings.
It's not about Democrats or Republicans.
It's about 1 nation. We are in this together and
Christ wants unity, not division.
I love that sentiment. I think that's that is that is
true God. That is what Christ wants
ultimately. But we also need to unify with
what is true. And I think what is true is both
protecting human dignity, not creating chaos in communities,
being realistic, and then also having a secure border and
recognizing that there are agents of chaos in politics who
are trying to just create chaos and not have a secure border and
not have any rule of law. A few more a few more comments
here. This is from Illani says you can
support secure borders and rule of law, but also insist on
treating all human beings with dignity.
And I do think that that take is what a lot of people are saying
right now. And that's not to say, oh,
you're becoming a leftist or oh, you're just hating on the right
or Trump. I think that's what most people
are saying. We don't want to see violent
altercations in our communities. Yeah, the protesters have a
responsibility to not show up and do violent protest 100%.
But also law enforcement has the federal law enforcement has a
responsibility to to be as thoughtful and strategic as
possible with how to carry out missions that make sense, that
are as much in line with those communities will.
I mean, some people have even said, well, if Minneapolis
doesn't want them want, you know, federal law enforcement
there, why is federal law enforcement showing up?
Well, they'd have a responsibility to enforce
federal law. But at the same time, you know,
maybe go to communities that and, and this is, you know,
Bishop Baron to some degree saying let's deport the violent
criminals. But maybe we should have a, a, a
softening period here. And it looks like President
Trump is moving in alignment with that, which is, I think,
great progress. All right, everyone, thank you.
Thanks for joining and letting me talk through my thoughts here
on immigration. And I very much welcome your
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