1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Hello everybody, welcome back to the Lila Rose Show. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,160 We are diving in with our weekly roundup. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,400 We did not do one last week our live last week because I was in 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,440 Washington DC for a number of meetings, including with the 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,720 administration and Secretary of HHSRFK, Robert F Kennedy. 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,280 Also for the wonderful March for Life, 100,000 people marching 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,720 out in the cold in DC for life. It was so beautiful and amazing. 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,120 Today we're going to be tackling, yes, what happened. 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:29,760 I'm going to share some behind the scenes of what happened in 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,440 DC. We're also going to be talking 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,560 about ICE. Our ICE deportation is humane. 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,280 And what is my take right now and what's happening in 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,480 Minnesota and Minneapolis? What is the Christian 14 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:42,960 perspective on all of this? What is fact versus fiction? 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,200 There's a lot of media narratives spinning everywhere. 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,240 It is out of control. You open social media and there 17 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,040 is somebody shouting about this issue. 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,280 I hope to bring some facts that I think are really important for 19 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,680 us all to look at and a perspective that I believe is 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,080 rooted in our faith. And then finally, Meghan 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,520 Trainer, celebrity Meghan Trainer has a beautiful family. 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,000 Congratulations to her. There's a new beautiful baby in 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,040 her family via surrogacy. So I'm going to unpack that and 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,320 why I think it matters because this is a new trend among the 25 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:13,840 elites today is to use surrogacy to build their families. 26 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:15,200 Welcome back to the Lila Rose show. 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,000 All right, so I also will be keeping my eye on the chat, so 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,040 please feel free to weigh in. I love hearing from you guys. 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,640 We will do some questions and comments from the chat towards 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,520 the end of the episode, so please include them. 31 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,920 All right, everybody. So what is happening right now 32 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:39,880 with Minnesota? What is happening in 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,320 Minneapolis? I'm sure unless you've been 34 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:45,720 living under a rock, you have seen news stories about this and 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,840 maybe you already feel passionately about this. 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,800 And I think it's good to feel passionately about this because 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,560 it matters. It matters how we secure our 38 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,000 borders. It matters how we treat 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,080 immigrants. It matters how our law 40 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,000 enforcement and our federal agents are treated. 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,040 It's matters how those federal agents and law enforcement treat 42 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,920 people. All of these things matter, 43 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,039 which why people are so hotly debating it and feel so strongly 44 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:10,639 about it. So what I want to do first is 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,160 something maybe a little bit different. 46 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,640 I want to paint some of the factual background that this 47 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:20,080 issue that underlies this issue. I think these facts help put 48 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,480 into perspective what is happening in the midst of all of 49 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,640 the inflamed emotions and again, understandably inflamed. 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,480 So let's take a step back and look at just kind of globally 51 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,840 immigration for just a moment. Immigration with regards to 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,160 illegal entry, people that enter countries illegally, immigration 53 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,800 with regards to, of course, our country in the history of 54 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,040 illegal immigration and the the treatment of the past few 55 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,000 administrations of illegal immigration and of our border. 56 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,400 So first of all, I think it's important to note that here's a 57 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,720 map out here that's so interesting. 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,640 It's important to note that it is the case for most nations 59 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:59,320 today to have punishment for illegally entering their 60 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,000 country. So this is exceedingly normal 61 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,680 that countries have rule of law around their borders, they have 62 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,240 borders that they secure and they have punishments for people 63 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,840 who enter their country illegally. 64 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,760 If you've been to a country in Europe and you needed permission 65 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,080 to be there, there as an example, that country has laws 66 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,400 that govern who can enter the nation, right, Their nation. 67 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,680 There are countries that these are countries that deport. 68 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,640 These are countries that also many of them detain those that 69 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:29,080 are under deportation, potential proceedings. 70 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,480 And there's other punishments too for illegal entry that 71 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,840 include fines. So if you look at this map right 72 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,760 here as an example, most nations in the world do have punishment 73 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,160 for illegal entry, including deportation, detainment, which 74 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,960 is what happens often in the United States too, as well as 75 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,960 fines and other punishments. Most of Europe has this, 76 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,800 certainly in the United States has this. 77 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,640 Most countries, many countries in Africa has this. 78 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,080 So this is exceedingly normal. And the United States of course, 79 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,720 has it. And that's what's under under 80 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,360 the debate right now, is the debate right now. 81 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,680 Are these just, are these proceedings just secondly, what 82 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,360 is the state of immigration in the United States? 83 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,520 Well, as of just 2023, it was estimated that there was up to 84 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,480 14,000,000 undocumented immigrants in the United States. 85 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,560 Some people are saying now it's 20 million. 86 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,440 So in the last, under the Biden administration, the borders 87 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,560 were, you know, left largely unsecured. 88 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,600 Many people accused the Biden administration of that. 89 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,440 We had a huge influx of undocumented immigration, of 90 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,040 illegal immigration into the country. 91 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,280 Another thing that's really important to note is that 92 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,920 America is one of the top nations that has illegal 93 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,520 immigration. So when you look at the kind of 94 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,840 swath of nations globally and you look at which nations have 95 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,000 illegal immigration into their country, America is only second 96 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,960 to one other nation. So I'm going to pull up this map 97 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,880 here, Harris, if you've got this. 98 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,360 So if you click on, if you click on illegal immigration rate, the 99 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,040 second tab, here we go at the top of the document, you got it. 100 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,240 It says that Russia, according to this 2025 data, Russia has an 101 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,400 8% illegal immigration rate, very high. 102 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,720 I don't know if this is the case actually as of today. 103 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,880 This is in I think in the last two or three years, it's saying 104 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,280 this is 2026 data. But I'm going to give a little 105 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:16,880 nuance. It might be actually immediate 106 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,920 to January of 2026. the United States has 3%, a 3% illegal 107 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,040 immigration rate. Malaysia is at 2%, France is at 108 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,360 less than 2%, South Africa is at 1.5. 109 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,640 All right, so then you look at the estimated maximum illegal 110 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,000 immigration population and according to this data, and 111 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,760 again, this is not perfect data, but you can see roughly the, 112 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,960 the, the, the ranges here. Russia, it's saying, has 12 113 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,480 million illegal immigrants, America 11.4. 114 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,960 Again, that might be as high as 20 million, depending on what 115 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,560 statistics you're looking at. India is saying 10 million, 116 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,600 France 1.2, Bangladesh 1.2. I bring this up because I want 117 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,960 people to understand this is a uniquely intense problem in the 118 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,200 United States, that we have issues with our border and 119 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,120 issues with undocumented immigration in our country. 120 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,440 Now, you might not have to, you know, you'd have to be living 121 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,160 under a rock and have no sensibility of what's happening 122 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,920 globally to know why that might be. 123 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,880 At least one reason why that is, is because America is an 124 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,840 extremely attractive place to go to. 125 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,520 And this should be everyone living in the United States 126 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,040 right now, everyone who is blessed to be an American 127 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,920 citizen who is able to live in this beautiful country for all 128 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,720 of our problems. We are so privileged. 129 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,080 And I want to just take a moment as we're talking about this 130 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,520 issue that has so many important angles and there's so much to, 131 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,480 you know, explore about, you know, how do we protect human 132 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,320 dignity and also rule of law? Just to be grateful to thank God 133 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,920 that you have the opportunities you have in America. 134 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,160 And may we all, and I'm going to just say this almost as a prayer 135 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,080 here, may we all use the freedoms and the security that 136 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,400 we enjoy in America for the good of other people. 137 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:56,960 That's, I mean, our responsibility as certainly for 138 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,680 us who are Christians right now. And certainly I think the good 139 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,880 responsibility of any citizen is to use our freedoms for the good 140 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,800 of other people, to use the gifts we've been given, 141 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,880 including the security, the economic opportunities for the 142 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,720 good of other people. And for as hard and as bad as it 143 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,480 can get for people individually and collectively in the United 144 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,240 States, we are doing so well. When you compare us at large to 145 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,080 other nations globally, we have so many freedoms, so many 146 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,320 blessings. So let's see all of this through 147 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,280 the lens of, I hope, magnanimity or generosity. 148 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,960 When we're considering other people who want a piece of 149 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,000 America, I want a piece of what we have have because we are so 150 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,560 blessed, we are so privileged. And we should treat that with 151 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,200 special consideration when we think about how we use our 152 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,800 lives. And also to respect rule of law, 153 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,000 because we want to respect our nation's laws and to be grateful 154 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,320 for the freedoms that we've been given. 155 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,800 So the reality is illegal immigration is a real problem. 156 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,840 There's real challenges beyond just the fact of more 157 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,720 undocumented people here. There is the problem of illegal 158 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,400 immigrants, immigrants who are committing crime. 159 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,800 You've heard the horror stories of some of the violent crimes 160 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,360 that have been committed from people who have come across the 161 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,520 border illegally. You may have also heard some of 162 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,680 the horror stories of human trafficking that occurs at our 163 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,440 border. When there is porous, A porous 164 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,400 border, you have the coyotes or you have the, you know, gangs 165 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,760 who are doing the cartels, who are doing drug trafficking, who 166 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,280 are doing human trafficking. So there is real human cost to 167 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,280 undocumented immigration to a porous border. 168 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,120 And this is one of the many reasons why so many people 169 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,280 support enforcing our immigration policy. 170 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,679 There is majority support, including among Democrats and 171 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:41,000 Republicans, for the deportation of illegal immigrants who are 172 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,640 violent offenders. That is something that most 173 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,160 people agree on. So where does the controversy 174 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,960 come in? The controversy comes in when 175 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,360 you're dealing with this mass influx of illegal immigration 176 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,400 like we had under Biden because of a porous border. 177 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,760 Trump is in office now, and he is now doing mass deportations. 178 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,280 I want to take a minute to look at what those deportations look 179 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,640 like and compare them for just a moment to Obama, because Obama 180 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,960 was the last Democrat president who also did mass deportations. 181 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,160 He was criticized for it. By the way, some people say, oh, 182 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,480 nobody criticized Obama for this. 183 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,560 Yes, he was criticized for it. I know people personally that 184 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,640 were doing advocacy, see, against Obama at the time for 185 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,440 his deportation policies. And there was certainly outcry, 186 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,800 not as much as there is against Trump now, but there was outcry 187 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,480 about Obama's mass deportation policies. 188 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,520 Biden didn't have these same policies, so he adjusted 189 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,720 deportation policies, but it was pretty strong. 190 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,840 You know, the deportation numbers were very high under 191 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,040 hundreds of thousands annually under Obama, as they are now 192 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,240 under Trump. So let's just take a look at 193 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,280 what does deportation look like both under Obama and Trump. 194 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,320 Again, this context I think is really important. 5% Let's talk 195 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,600 about Trump first, according to the Cato Institute, which is a 196 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,920 pretty bipartisan, nonpartisan institute, pretty libertarian. 197 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,680 5%, Let's pull up the statistic if you can. 198 00:09:55,680 --> 00:10:01,640 Harris, 5% of people detained by ICE have violent convictions. 199 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,640 73% have no convictions. So this is from November 2025. 200 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,360 So this is the current look at how we're deporting people. 201 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:12,160 So most of the people, the large majority of the people who are 202 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,920 being deported right now do not have violent convictions. 203 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,920 Now, if you look at Obama, let's just just for context, go back 204 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,960 to the, you know, eight years of Obama and his administration. 205 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,040 You can pull up this article here at the New York Times. 206 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,360 So this is from the New York Times, the source, and I'll just 207 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,160 say what it says. It says that since 2008, so this 208 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,760 is under Obama, 2/3 of the immigrants deported from the 209 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:41,240 United States committed only minor traffic violations or had 210 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,880 no criminal record at all. So Obama was deporting 2/3 of 211 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,760 immigrants with no violent record and another 20%. 212 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,040 So this was his, you know, the cohort of people that had a 213 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,920 criminal record, 20% had a criminal record or faced drug 214 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,040 charges. So it has been a typical policy 215 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,520 of both the Trump administration, now even more 216 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,000 under Trump, but it was the same case under Biden to deport 217 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,920 nonviolent, sometimes people with no criminal record, not 218 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,440 even a drivers driving infraction under those 219 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,600 immigration policies. Now, how can we, how do we, how 220 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,200 should we look at this as Christians, as Christians that 221 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,000 we know, we know that the rule of law does matter. 222 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,080 We have a responsibility to live by the rule of law. 223 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,840 We also know that we've been told again and again, Scripture 224 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,160 tells us again and again to welcome the stranger, to treat 225 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,440 the foreigner with justice and mercy, to be hospitable. 226 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,800 So we have these two things that we are weighing. 227 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,720 And I want to actually read some of what you all know, that I'm 228 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,160 Catholic. I think the Catholic Church has 229 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,840 done some beautiful work in developing a a better 230 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,080 understanding of how to see immigration and how to look at 231 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,520 immigration policy. And I want to read some quotes 232 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,040 from an encyclical called Brotherly Love that that was 233 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,800 published, I think just a few years ago. 234 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,240 It's fairly recent, Fratelli Tutti, as well as some language 235 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,200 from the Catechism about immigration law and the 236 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,400 treatment of immigrants and also respect for for for law. 237 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,360 So I'm going to start with this quote from Fratelli Tutti. 238 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:19,160 This is 2253. This was an encyclical, one that 239 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,360 came out when Pope Francis was our Pope. 240 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,720 He says this is about how we should think about immigration 241 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,560 enforcement in part. And I'm going to tie this in 242 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,720 more later, but listen to what? Listen to what Pope Francis says 243 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,600 here. He says when injustices haven't 244 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:36,760 have occurred on both sides, we're going to get into it. 245 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:41,040 I haven't even mentioned the name of, of of what's happening 246 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,480 specifically in Minneapolis, of Alex Jeffrey Petty. 247 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,160 I haven't even talked about this specifically. 248 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,400 We're going to get to that. But I think this context is 249 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,400 really important. When injustices have occurred on 250 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,800 both sides, it is important to take into clear account whether 251 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,600 they are equally grave or in any way comparable. 252 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Violence perpetrated by the state using its structures and 253 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:06,000 power is not on the same level as that perpetrated by 254 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,600 particular groups. Now, this is, I think, a very 255 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,560 important point and a lens for us to understand the violence 256 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:17,000 that's happening in the streets of Minneapolis where we see 257 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,080 violent altercations between protesters, some of them 258 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,280 behaving very improperly. And then we see violence by ICE 259 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,160 officers, some of them even using guns to shoot protesters 260 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,840 because, you know, in their case, they will say, well, I was 261 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,160 fighting back in self-defense. And here Fratelli Tutti is 262 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,920 telling us, and I think this is something that any conservative 263 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,520 could agree with, violence perpetrated by the state using 264 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,400 its structures and power is not on the same level as that 265 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,040 perpetrated by particular groups. 266 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:53,040 So while I think it is very important to urge respect for 267 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:58,480 law enforcement, to urge the peaceableness of communities to 268 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,880 cooperate with law enforcement, to cooperate with federal 269 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,840 agents, there's also, of course, a right to protest, to peaceful 270 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,920 protest. And the government has a 271 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,880 responsibility even when there is unruly protest, even when 272 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,760 there are criminals. And this isn't just for the 273 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,720 issue of illegal immigration. This is for the issue of any 274 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,280 issue, right? Anytime when there is violent 275 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,360 crime in your city, the government has the 276 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,920 responsibility to hold itself to a high standard where, yes, if 277 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,920 there's a violent criminal doing terrible things terrorizing a 278 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,320 city, the government still has to hold itself to the high 279 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,160 standard of, of enacting justice. 280 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,080 It can't just go out vigilante justice just shooting the 281 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,840 criminals because we're mad at the criminals. 282 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,000 Of course not. That's not how our law 283 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,160 enforcement works. Good law enforcement officers 284 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:44,960 every day doing the brave work that they do. 285 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,520 They're out there holding themselves to the high standard 286 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,560 of we're going to give due process even to this criminal, 287 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,400 even this criminal who is a maybe a raving lunatic or this 288 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,720 person that is doing total crime and chaos in my city, they still 289 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,160 deserve due process. And that is of course, our 290 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,880 American system of governance. And This is why one of the many 291 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,560 reasons you and me should be so grateful to live in this 292 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,080 country, because our government is held to the standard and 293 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,720 holds itself to the standard. So let's go now zoom back to 294 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,440 immigration. This is a a very important, 295 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,360 another very important quote, I think from Fratelli 2D that I 296 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,920 wanted to read. Complex challenges arise when 297 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,920 our neighbor happens to be an immigrant. 298 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,040 So now it's talking specifically about the issue of immigration. 299 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,440 Complex challenges arise when our neighbor happens to be an 300 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,680 immigrant. Ideally, unnecessary migration 301 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,800 ought to be avoided. So they're saying ideally 302 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,960 unnecessary migration ought to be avoided. 303 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,520 What the Pope is saying here is that you shouldn't be just 304 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,120 immigrating for the sake of immigrating. 305 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,000 People who immigrate should be doing it because of a serious 306 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,720 reason. So people that just say, well, I 307 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,680 have a right to just show up in every other country and just 308 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,960 show up and let me in, that is actually not the right of any 309 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:01,520 person to do so. You don't have the right to just 310 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:02,960 enter another country because you want to. 311 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,760 And this note is being made here very clearly. 312 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,160 It goes on to say this entails creating in countries of origin 313 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,560 the conditions needed for a dignified life and integral 314 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,720 development. Yet, until substantial progress 315 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,640 is made in achieving this goal, we are obliged to respect the 316 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,760 right of all individuals to find a place that meets their basic 317 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,240 needs and those of their families and where they can find 318 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,080 personal fulfillment. Our response to the arrival of 319 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,520 migrating persons can be summarized by 4 words. 320 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,080 Welcome, protect, promote, and integrate. 321 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,320 Now, this is challenging and this is also, there's so much 322 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,880 scriptural basis for this about welcoming the stranger, opening 323 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,440 your arms to welcome the person that is the the foreigner. 324 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,400 There's a challenge here. It's not just welcome them when 325 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,960 it's convenient, it's welcomed them regardless of the 326 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,120 challenges that it may pose. If they are in need, if they're 327 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,920 destitute, if they need, you know, they're fleeing something, 328 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,800 you know, war or poverty, they need help. 329 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,800 Do your best to help them is really the underlying principle 330 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,119 here, scripturally and biblically and and as 331 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,200 Christians. So what does that mean for 332 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,720 immigration policy? Well, it's messy, of course. 333 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,680 What does that look like? Many of the people entering this 334 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,760 country are not entering this country on a lark. 335 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,680 That is true. They're not entering this 336 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,440 country because they're like they woke up one day and like it 337 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,160 would be fun to live in America. I'm going to peace out and go 338 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,520 live in America. Many people who enter this 339 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,960 country, including illegally and legally, because you can come 340 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,520 both ways, are entering this country because they are really 341 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,280 fearing the conditions that they're leaving, whether it's 342 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,920 the poverty, it's the economic uncertainty, it's violent gangs 343 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,320 in their nation of origin. It's, you know, a government 344 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,960 that's chaotic. There's no security where 345 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,960 they're come from. They're seeking better freedom 346 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,520 and opportunities. And I think people addressing 347 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,080 this issue on both sides need to acknowledge that. 348 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,120 We need to acknowledge that this isn't like they're showing up 349 00:17:56,120 --> 00:18:00,480 and coming on a lark. There's often desperation and 350 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,960 and destitution that can drive it. 351 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,600 Not in every case, but in many cases. 352 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,760 Can you come here legally? Yes. 353 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,720 Should that be the pathway that we celebrate and promote the 354 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,600 most? Yes. 355 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,080 But when there are more spots, there are more people who want 356 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,400 spots and spots available. This is where you see the 357 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,880 temptation, of course, for many now millions of migrants to come 358 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,040 here illegally. What is the Christian response? 359 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,960 What is the response of of people that we should, that we 360 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,920 should have? Ultimately, it should be a 361 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,440 posture of welcoming, protecting, promoting and 362 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,920 integration. Now, some people have said, 363 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,880 well, the Catholic Church is getting political here. 364 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,680 They're criticizing President Trump and they don't criticize 365 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,040 the Democrats. It's not fair. 366 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,720 This looks political, etcetera, etcetera. 367 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,040 And I do want to point out that even under Obama, Catholic 368 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,400 Bishops were criticizing Obama. Pope Francis, when he came to 369 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,920 the United States, when Obama was the president, he actually 370 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,120 was criticizing our deportation policy and saying calling it 371 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:56,920 inhumane. So, you know, well, it may seem 372 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,200 because of media reports that, oh, Catholics bishops or 373 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,320 Catholic leaders are more hard on Trump versus others, there's 374 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,640 been a fair amount of consistency from the Catholic 375 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,680 Bishops about immigration deportation policy and the 376 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,040 criticism that they've had of immigration deportation policy. 377 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,520 I want to read one more quote here for context, though, from 378 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,880 the Catechism, the Catholic Catechism about the treatment of 379 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,360 immigrants. And this is about affirming that 380 00:19:23,360 --> 00:19:28,320 governments have the right and they should regulate immigration 381 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,960 for the sake of common good, public order and safety. 382 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,600 So everything that I said, you know, people are listening to me 383 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,360 like, well, yeah, welcome to stranger, you know, integrate 384 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:38,360 immigrants. Be understanding all of this. 385 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:40,240 But Lila, what about rule of law? 386 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,680 And what about the importance of a strong border and national 387 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,280 sovereignty because of all the harm that illegal immigration 388 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,920 can pop, can cause, especially if you're bringing in drugs, 389 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,960 human trafficking and violent offenders. 390 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:57,560 And this is from the Catechism, and it says 2241. 391 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,320 It says political authorities for the sake of the common good 392 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,000 for which they are responsible. Keep that in mind. 393 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,920 President Trump, he's responsible for the common good. 394 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,280 Your government is responsible for the common good. 395 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,200 You can agree or disagree with how they're living that out. 396 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,080 You might hate, you know, policies or like policies, but 397 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,720 that is their job. The common good they may 398 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,760 exercise. They may make the exercise of 399 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,000 the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, 400 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,240 especially with regard to the immigrants duties towards their 401 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,520 country of adoption. So this is very important 402 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,720 because it's saying that yes, the government has a right to 403 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,600 regulate and it should regulate immigration, especially with 404 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,160 regard to the immigrants duties towards their country of 405 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,320 adoption. When an immigrant comes to the 406 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,520 United States, they have a duty to follow the law of that 407 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,800 country. They have a duty to assimilate. 408 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,600 They have a duty to live by the laws and the customs, the good 409 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,600 laws and customs. You know, again, if the custom 410 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,120 is we abort our children, the immigrant is adopting that. 411 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:56,840 I would say that that is immoral and wrong. 412 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,160 They should be here to actually bring as much justice and, and 413 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,200 goodness as they can bring. But if there's good, if there's 414 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,040 law, if there is good customs, then the immigrant should be 415 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,000 working on integrating and adopting that. 416 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:12,280 That is also part of the responsibility of the immigrant, 417 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,600 just as the government has a responsibility to act with 418 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,840 justice. So I'm going to lay that. 419 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,000 Thank you for for letting me lay that groundwork. 420 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,560 I think that groundwork really matters. 421 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,520 And I think it also helps us understand what's now taking 422 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,000 place in Minnesota. Now, before Alex Pretty was shot 423 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:33,120 in Minnesota on the streets of Minneapolis, there was a tweet 424 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,040 by Bishop Baron who spoke out about what was happening and 425 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,560 unfolding in in Minneapolis. And this was also after Alex 426 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,640 Good had been shot on the streets. 427 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,760 And so he he what he said, I felt was very on point. 428 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,160 And I remember retweeting it. And I think there was some Flack 429 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,320 that he got from some folks. I may have gotten some too. 430 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,800 But I felt that. And I believe that what Bishop 431 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,080 Baron has to say about what's happening in Minnesota is spot 432 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,200 on. And it appears that now the 433 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,240 Trump administration seems to be aligning more with the 434 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,120 recommendations of, at the time, Bishop Baron. 435 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:12,280 Now, not because of Bishop Baron necessarily, but I think because 436 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,160 of the fallout and the backlash of what has happened in 437 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,200 Minneapolis. So let's pull up this tweet from 438 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,520 Bishop Baron. He says as a resident of 439 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,680 Minnesota. So he, in the last few years, 440 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,640 was moved to Minnesota. Before that, he was in 441 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,920 California, he says. As a resident of Minnesota and a 442 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,200 Bishop and as Bishop of the Diocese of Winona Rochester, my 443 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,720 heart is breaking over the situation in my home state. 444 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,520 Violence, retribution, threats, protests, deep suspicion of one 445 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,800 another, political unrest, fear, all of it swirling around all 446 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,440 the time. May I make a modest proposal for 447 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,160 exiting this unbearable state of affairs. 448 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,440 The Trump administration and ICE should limit themselves, at 449 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,280 least for the time being, to rounding up undocumented people 450 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,200 who have committed serious crimes. 451 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,000 Political leaders should stop stirring up resentment against 452 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,520 officers who are endeavoring to enforce the laws of the country. 453 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,480 And protesters should cease interfering with the work of 454 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,080 ICE. And everyone on all sides must 455 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,160 stop shouting at one another and demonizing their opponents. 456 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,880 Where we are now at is untenable. 457 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,960 There is a way out now. I believe it was just a few days 458 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:30,600 later that Alex Pretty was shot, and things have just become even 459 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:35,200 more inflamed since. But I think this modest proposal 460 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,640 from Bishop Baron still stands. And I think there's some 461 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,640 direction moving. There's a direction now towards 462 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,800 more of a acceptance of such a proposal. 463 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,800 And we'll get to that in a minute. 464 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,720 All right, so let's take a look now at what just happened. 465 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,400 I don't want to get I mean, I have we spent a lot of time at 466 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,840 the show building up a a play by play about what happened with 467 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,400 Alex Pretty what has been the response on the left and the 468 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,800 right? What have been as I see at the 469 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,080 excesses, what are what do I think, you know, what is the 470 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,480 solution? We're going to run through some 471 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,960 of this. There's a lot more I wanted to 472 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,560 get to today. So I think it took a lot of time 473 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,880 ground, you know, laying the ground as I just did. 474 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,320 And I think that is really important, laying that ground of 475 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,680 where we're at and what is the Christian teaching on how we 476 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,400 should see rule of flawed immigration. 477 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,200 But let's just run through this quickly. 478 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,680 You may have heard a lot of this, but I think there's some 479 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:27,240 important things to point out. So first of all, the day that 480 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,960 Alex Pretty was shot and you probably have seen this footage, 481 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,760 it's just, it's totally tragic. It's devastating. 482 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:37,160 And if you're somebody in Minnesota who's already upset 483 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,040 about ICE, who already feels that ice is there and shouldn't 484 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,320 be there, who's already upset about, you know, a friend that 485 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,000 feels terrified, terrified because of ice, because of the 486 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,240 color of their skin. And maybe they are an actual 487 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,160 citizen or they are documented, but they're they're asking for 488 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,120 their papers to be checked. And it's they feel terrified. 489 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,200 They're like, where are we? What's going on in my hometown 490 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,320 now or in my city? You can understand how much fury 491 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,040 and pain there was when this viral video went around of Alex 492 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,640 Freddie getting shot to death. Anytime you see anybody shot to 493 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,960 death on video, it should break your heart. 494 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,400 It's a horrible thing. Alex Pretty should be alive 495 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,080 right now. It's devastating. 496 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,280 So let's walk through what happened and also what is the 497 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,600 the reported understanding or experience of ICE who was part 498 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,480 of this altercation? Of course, it was the one that 499 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,120 pulled the trigger. So the day that Alex Pretty was 500 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:33,960 shot, there were a there was a mission by ICE agents to go 501 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,520 after an illegal immigrant who had an extensive criminal 502 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,280 history, including domestic assault, disorderly conduct, 503 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,320 driving without a license. So they were going after 504 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,360 somebody who did have that criminal history. 505 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,600 And as they were working to do this, there was a protest, a 506 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,120 counter protest ultimately that sprung up against ICE and 507 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:57,920 Jeffrey Petty was there. Now, Jeffrey Petty, apparently, 508 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,080 as of I think just today or yesterday, there's another story 509 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,240 going around about Alex, Jeffrey Petty, not Jeffrey, Alex, 510 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,880 Jeffrey Petty, about how he has been basically showing up at 511 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,680 these protests now for weeks. And there is a video now of him 512 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,640 clashing with ice. I think it was 11 days before 513 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,400 his death. Let's take a look at this one. 514 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,480 This is another clip that's just going out about Alex where he is 515 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:24,840 having a tussle with ice. I think he's spinning in their 516 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,360 direction. Let's take a quick look at that. 517 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:29,960 Can you play that video, Harris? This morning, two of the agents 518 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,320 involved in the fatal shooting of Alex Preti are on 519 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,360 administrative leave, according to DHS officials. 520 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,800 The move comes as a new videos have emerged of Preti from an 521 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,320 incident 11 days before he was killed. 522 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,240 Here you can see Preti approaching the area where a 523 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,920 crowd was already interacting with federal agents. 524 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,160 And in this angle captured by online media outlet The News 525 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,440 Movement, Pretty kicks their car. 526 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,480 The agents respond by tackling him to the ground. 527 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,960 At one point, you can see what appears to be a gun. 528 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,560 It tucked in Pretty's pants. Local officials say Pretty was 529 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,960 legally allowed to carry a handgun. 530 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,360 Pretty's family says they were aware of the previous 531 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,640 altercation, writing a week before Alex was gunned down in 532 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,680 the street. Despite posing no threat to 533 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,080 anyone, he was violently assaulted overnight. 534 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,120 President Trump sharing the video and another user's post 535 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:24,440 calling Preti a domestic terrorist, despite his previous 536 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,400 efforts to back away from that language used by administration 537 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,560 officials after Preti's death, which has come under fire from 538 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,880 both Democrats and Republicans. OK, so the. 539 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,160 Trump administration has now acknowledged mistake. 540 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,040 So this report here, we can pause it. 541 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,000 So this report here is it's, it's interesting on a number of 542 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,960 levels. So first of all, it notes that 543 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,000 as of now, DHS has put the agents on administrative leave 544 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,280 who, who shot Alex Preti. So that happened that has 545 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,400 happened just recently. It also talks about the this 546 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,800 altercation that Alex pretty had that was captured on camera. 547 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,840 He's kicking the tires of the ice vehicle. 548 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,360 He's spitting in their direction. 549 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,200 He was tackled to the ground after that. 550 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,280 According to some reports, he broke a rib after that and then 551 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,120 he's back out on the streets within 10 days later to do 552 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:06,960 another ultimately altercation with ice. 553 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,840 Now I'm already looking at the chat. 554 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,880 So thank you guys. The chat is already engaging 555 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,120 here. I promised I would get to it. 556 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:13,840 And I I think there's some comments here that I want to 557 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,520 just read one chat. One person says Emily says shame 558 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,800 he wasn't arrested in that earlier altercation. 559 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,560 Letting him go emboldened him. It is a good question. 560 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,280 If Alex had been arrested then when he got in a tussle with Ice 561 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,760 and literally was fighting with them, would he be dead today? 562 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,840 You know, would it, would he, would he be with us today if he 563 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,920 had been arrested at that time? I don't know the answer to that 564 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,480 because he could have been arrested and let go. 565 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,640 I'm not sure. But the point is there was 566 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,400 already hostility happening and Alex getting involved in this, 567 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,880 these tussles even before the altercation that took his life. 568 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,600 Now, the fact is, Alex Pretty, and I think everybody agrees 569 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,640 with this, including the left and the right, Alex Pretty was 570 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,240 in fact, impeding law enforcement. 571 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,320 So they were federal agents. People are saying there's a 572 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,800 distinction. Obviously there are federal 573 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,840 agents enforcing federal law. They are federal law 574 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,560 enforcement. He was trying to stop their 575 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,160 missions. That's what he was trying to do. 576 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,200 And he had the right to conceal carry. 577 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,440 He did have that permit. That is a constitutional right 578 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,400 to carry a gun, to be a gun owner. 579 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,720 And so the fact that he had a gun on him and the fact that he 580 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,680 was protesting is within his rights. 581 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,960 It now is no longer within his rights if you get into the area 582 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,800 of he's actually actively impeding an operation because 583 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,480 ICE has the right to arrest someone who is actively impeding 584 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,920 an operation. Sounds like there's an operation 585 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,080 happening off camera right now. By the way, there's, I don't 586 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,480 know if you guys can hear the, the sirens, but I bring this up 587 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,680 because what, what, what Alex pretty did could have, could 588 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,520 have led to his arrest. Instead, it led to his death. 589 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,000 And that's what of course people are outraged about. 590 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,040 They're outraged that ICE was there in the 1st place. 591 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,000 Many people oppose the ICE operation to begin with. 592 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,040 And then second of all, they're outraged because he was shot and 593 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,760 how he was shot. He was shot where he was prone 594 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,880 on the ground in the scuffle. You know, those that defend ICE 595 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,920 said, well, the ICE was, wasn't sure it was going on. 596 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,400 They saw a gun, they knew there was a gun. 597 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,800 They didn't know if Alex was going to be able to grab that 598 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,600 gun. That is all going to be lit 599 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,560 again and I'm not going to litigate that right now because 600 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,800 I that is not my pay grade and that is requires a level of 601 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,920 expertise to understand exactly what was the intent of the ice 602 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,040 officers, what was the experience of the ice officers? 603 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,840 What are all the different camera angles? 604 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,560 What is the time sequencing of all of those actions. 605 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,000 I can say confidently that it is a horrible tragedy that he is 606 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,120 not with us that Alex was killed. 607 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,120 I would say confidently that it appears to most people, and I 608 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,560 can say this for the left and the right, because I've seen, 609 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,240 you know, the the coverage, the wall to wall coverage on this. 610 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,600 It appears to most people that he didn't need to get shot 611 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,320 because he was largely shot in the back. 612 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,760 He was on the ground already and most people are saying, why did 613 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,840 you do that? Doesn't look like you had the 614 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,560 you needed to do that. There could be a case made for 615 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,960 the ICE officer. And I'm sure they'll make the 616 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,560 case that they thought that they were under threat of their life 617 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,920 and they felt they had to do that. 618 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,200 So that's going to be their case. 619 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,840 That's going to get litigated. But I think the bottom line is 620 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,960 we're seeing the inflamed. We're seeing the inflaming of 621 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,520 factions now on both sides, certainly in Minnesota. 622 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,600 And we're seeing the responses from the right saying that DHS, 623 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,120 you know, is doing their job. They're trying to enforce the 624 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,800 law. They're just being attacked by 625 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,440 protesters. You saw the response from the 626 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,880 right. And this was the administration 627 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,080 specifically, when this first took place a week ago, the 628 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,000 administration called Predi a domestic terrorist, saying that 629 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,200 he was on a mission to potentially massacre law 630 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,600 enforcement. So they had already begun to 631 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,240 paint him in the narrative as this violent offender against 632 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,360 ICE. Is there evidence to bear that 633 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,080 out? I don't think so, even with this 634 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,800 previous clip. So that was a very intense stand 635 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,440 that they took. Obviously on the left, the left 636 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,600 is saying that ICE is like the Gestapo, that ICE is, you know, 637 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,160 literally Hitler. I mean, that's really the 638 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,800 argument that they are on this, you know, this, this, this tour 639 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,400 of just terrorizing communities, attacking people. 640 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,640 Is that really the case for every ICE officer? 641 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,280 Of course not. You know, I know people in law 642 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,720 enforcement and Border Patrol and involved with ICE who are 643 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,960 truly trying to restore peace in communities, doing doing the 644 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,520 best that they can. And they believe that they're 645 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,000 doing what's right. They're trying to respect human 646 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,600 dignity, trying to do the right thing thing is that every ICE 647 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,920 officer. No, of course not. 648 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,200 But is that many of them? I would say yes. 649 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,680 So you're seeing this you know, polar hyper polarization on each 650 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,920 side calling each other these names domestic terrorist Hitler, 651 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,640 the Gestapo, modern day Gestapo. I think the the truth, the truth 652 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,880 is somewhere in the middle. And some people who hear me say 653 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,440 this, if you are very much conservative, which I am myself, 654 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,480 but if you are very much involved in these, you know, 655 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,280 aware of these political narratives, you want maybe to 656 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,280 take a strong firm stand in one camp or the other and say, well, 657 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,840 nuance here is not really good because we need to take a strong 658 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,880 stand one way or another. ICE, all bad. 659 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,240 ICE all good. Immigration, all bad. 660 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,080 Immigration, all, all good. Administration, all bad. 661 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,080 Administration, all good, I don't think. 662 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,000 And, and I've heard some conservatives reference the 663 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,560 issue of abortion as a reason as, as almost like a 664 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,200 justification for why we need to take a strong stand on these 665 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,280 other issues. Meaning abortion is black and 666 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,080 white. It's always wrong. 667 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,360 One side is always wrong on it, which is the side that supports 668 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,160 it and the side that rejects it is right. 669 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,080 And use abortion as an example to compare immigration to 670 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,160 saying, well, immigration is black and white too. 671 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,120 And this issue is also black and white. 672 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,280 They are different. These issues are different. 673 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,800 Abortion is black and white. The baby's killed or not killed, 674 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,240 and when you kill a baby, it's the direct and intentional 675 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,760 killing via an abortion that's always wrong. 676 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,320 In the issue of immigration enforcement, there's a lot more 677 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,199 complexity and nuance, and that's where good people on both 678 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:17,760 sides will have disagreements and have some things that 679 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,000 they're right about. And people on the other side 680 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,320 will have some good points. And I would urge the posture of 681 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,639 understanding and listening to each other instead of going to 682 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,880 war to say you're all bad, you're all wrong, I'm all right, 683 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,600 I'm all good. Because. 684 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,920 And back to our, our, our view of this as Christians and back 685 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,080 to what many of the many Christian leaders, Catholic 686 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,400 Bishops have been recommending. When you're doing mass 687 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,920 deportations of nonviolent offenders of people who came 688 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,159 here illegally, maybe when they were very young and you're we're 689 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:56,000 tearing apart families. You're basically trying to put a 690 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,480 Band-Aid on the bleeding wound that was the US border. 691 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,200 And the Band-Aid is let's just RIP people out of their 692 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,720 communities and deport them, including against 70 to 95% of 693 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:08,440 them who are not violent offenders. 694 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:12,600 It does open the door to tremendous chaos in communities, 695 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,200 to the potential for human rights violations in 696 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,880 communities, to many of the issues that we're seeing right 697 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,600 now. And I think to pretend like, 698 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,800 well, that's not going to happen. 699 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,840 You're not going to have any human rights issues, you're not 700 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,960 going to have any disturbance, and any chaos is not reality. 701 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,160 The reality is, especially if someone's brought here as a 702 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,880 younger person, as a young child, and they start to build a 703 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,760 life here, they're brought here as a young teen and now they're 704 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,800 in college and they've assimilated largely, but they're 705 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,240 not documented. Deporting them is going to 706 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,440 create chaos. And you're seeing the chaos in 707 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,840 many of the stories of fear and consternation coming out of our 708 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,160 communities. Now, some people say, well, 709 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,120 Lila, that's just the left wing media constantly trying to 710 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,720 attack Trump, attack, you know, the right. 711 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,720 They're constantly making these sob stories to try to undermine 712 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,080 rule of law. Yeah, the left wing media does 713 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,160 do that. The left wing media is often 714 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,680 dishonest. They're certainly very dishonest 715 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,960 on abortion. I've seen them be dishonest on a 716 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,440 lot of things. I've seen some right wing media 717 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,080 be dishonest at times. I think overall it's less 718 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,160 dishonest, but I've seen it be dishonest at times. 719 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,440 But we're not like, Oh well, the left wing media is dishonest. 720 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,880 Therefore I think we should do mass deportations. 721 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,000 I don't think that should necessarily be your conclusion 722 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,920 of, well, the right wing or the the left wing is dishonest and 723 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,280 left wing media is dishonest. What I'm trying to say here is 724 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:38,600 just because the person criticizing your party, your 725 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:44,040 side is sometimes dishonest or is dishonest on other things or 726 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,480 otherwise you don't respect them, that doesn't mean they're 727 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,280 100% wrong all the time. A broken clock is right, you 728 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,720 know, twice a day. So the fact that somebody, this 729 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:58,200 is what this is my caution, this is my caution to conservatives 730 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,200 right now, to Christians, to Catholics, My caution certainly 731 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,040 to people who are more on the right like myself, who's a 732 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,280 conservative, Leave a put tribalism aside, put US versus 733 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,680 them, left versus right, left wing media, right wing media, 734 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,000 put it aside. Look at it from a perspective of 735 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,440 what is our posture that we're called to have as Christians? 736 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,400 What it what are the facts of the situation? 737 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,200 And step inside and step out of this warring narratives game. 738 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:28,120 Because as a Christian, your concern should not be 739 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,360 narratives. Your concern should not be, 740 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,440 well, I need to fight their narrative with my narrative. 741 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,480 Your concern should be the truth, the truth of what it 742 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,880 means to be a Christian and the truth of what is actually 743 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,680 happening in any given situation. 744 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,080 And sometimes your political opponents will be telling the 745 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,120 truth about some things, and we should be listening to both 746 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,600 sides, to our side and to our opponents. 747 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,880 Sometimes we may, we may have something to learn from the 748 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,560 people who politically oppose us. 749 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:01,040 Your political party should not be your first guiding star for 750 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,440 how to think about politics. Your political media should not 751 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,320 be your first guiding star for how to think about what's 752 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,160 happening in the political realm or in our culture. 753 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,960 Your guiding star should be seeking out the facts as best 754 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,760 you can and navigating how they might be represented differently 755 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,600 from different sides. And your guiding star should be 756 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,480 Scripture should be your faith. As a Catholic, my guiding star 757 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,280 is the tradition of the Catholic Church and the and the wealth of 758 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,800 knowledge of 2000 years of its teachings on faith and morals, 759 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,080 which is all scripturally based. That should be your guiding 760 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,000 star. So where do we leave it with 761 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,120 this, you know, tragedy unfolding in Minnesota? 762 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,840 The good news is after the horrific controversies and by 763 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,600 the way ICE has been hit, you know, ICE agent hasn't died in 764 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,400 Minneapolis. But there was an ICE agent who 765 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,960 had his finger chomped off by a protester. 766 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,360 He is in a tussle with another protester. 767 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,080 She bit his finger cut off. She literally chomped off part 768 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,360 of his finger. So ICE agents are also 769 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,440 experiencing bodily threat and harm. 770 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,400 It's not just protesters. Now, back to that original 771 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,440 principle. The government has a special 772 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,920 responsibility to do justice. And even when the protesters 773 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,040 aren't doing justice, the government still has to do 774 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,680 justice. That's a very important point. 775 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:18,240 But where are we going to leave it? 776 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:21,240 OK. The good news is it sounds like 777 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:23,280 there is some lessening of tension. 778 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,040 I want to credit. Let's see what this pull up. 779 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,720 The quote from President Trump. He had a statement here. 780 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,120 Do we have it to Tim Walz? He had a conversation with 781 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,240 Governor Walz. Tim Walz has been in the news 782 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:38,360 quite a lot lately. I am glad for one, that he is 783 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,480 not our vice president right now. 784 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,400 I, I will say that. But let's pull up, Governor, 785 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,120 this tweet from Governor Walls. I, I don't know if I have it on 786 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,440 my computer. Do we have it? 787 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,760 Pull it up here. OK, Governor. 788 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,240 Tim Walz, can you zoom into Tadmore Harris? 789 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,360 Governor Tim Walz called me with the request to work together 790 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,000 with respect to Minnesota. It was a very good call and we 791 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,040 actually seem to be on a similar wavelength. 792 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,400 So this is very conciliatory from President Trump, which I 793 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,760 applaud him for. I told Governor Walz that I 794 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,000 would have Tim Holman call him and that what we were looking 795 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,960 for are any and all criminals that have in their position, 796 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,720 any, all criminals that they have in their possession. 797 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,840 And I will be speaking to him. The governor respectfully 798 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,800 understood that and I will be speaking to him in the near 799 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,520 future. He was happy that Tim Homan was 800 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,120 going to Minnesota and so am I. We've had such tremendous 801 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:30,240 success in Washington, DC, Memphis, TN and New Orleans, LA 802 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,200 and virtually every other place that we have touched. 803 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,480 And even in Minnesota, crime is way down. 804 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,120 You can Scroll down a little bit, Harris. 805 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,320 That's all that we have. So this is and Tim Homan, who is 806 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,840 an American law enforcement officer. 807 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,640 He was designated as the czar for Trump's second presidency. 808 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,440 Tim Homan or excuse me, Tom Homan served during the Obama 809 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,280 administration. So this is a really important 810 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,560 because Tom Homan in that sense is a nonpartisan figure. 811 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,200 He served under Obama. Now, some people on the left 812 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,560 just hate this guy. So, again, I'm not pretending 813 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,000 like the left loves him, but the point is he served under Obama 814 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,880 and he was given, I believe, a presidential rank award. 815 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,120 He was given an award in 2015 by President Barack Obama. 816 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,960 So leave your partisanship behind for a moment, left versus 817 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,760 right. This is somebody that Obama 818 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,320 liked a lot and actually celebrated, you know, gave him 819 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,320 an award. And now President Trump is 820 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,160 saying, OK, I'm going to send this guy because it sounds like 821 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,360 the left can handle him or as liked him in the past. 822 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,000 So I think that's progress. And I like that President Trump 823 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,400 is indicating we're going to pull the criminals. 824 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,040 I think he's referencing, you know, criminals with a criminal 825 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,240 record beyond illegal entry. And those are the people that 826 00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:46,680 we're going to be targeting now, focusing more on in Minnesota 827 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,400 and allowing tensions hopefully to be less inflamed. 828 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,160 And I think this is the right direction for President Trump to 829 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,000 take. All right, you guys, so much 830 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,000 more on this topic to talk about and I'm sure we'll be covering 831 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,320 it in the future. I appreciate everybody for your 832 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,720 comments here. We're going to get to some of 833 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:06,280 them soon. 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Go to braveplus.com/lila. 865 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,760 That's braveplus.com/lila for a free seven day trial. 866 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,840 All right, so let's move to this other news story that caught my 867 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,960 eye recently. Meghan trainer, a singer, and 868 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,840 she actually has this very beautiful family. 869 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,040 She recently announced that she had given. 870 00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,160 She had not given birth. Excuse me. 871 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,000 She had welcomed a new child into her family that she had, 872 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,440 yes, not given birth to, but it is her biological child. 873 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,200 Let's pull up this picture here of Meghan Trainer's announcement 874 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,880 of the birth of this beautiful baby. 875 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,480 Congratulations on this baby. They named her Mikey Moon 876 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,160 Trainer January 18th, born just last week or a little over a 877 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,360 week ago. You can see in this picture 878 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,720 Megan is doing skin contact, cuddling with this newborn baby. 879 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,080 But here's the thing, this baby was born via surrogacy. 880 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,480 Now I'm bringing this up because of course I'm excited about any 881 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,160 new baby. Every new baby is a gift from 882 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,400 God. This is a gift to Megan and her 883 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,120 husband Daryl. What a blessing. 884 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,880 But the the choice of surrogacy is what I want to talk about 885 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,480 because this is an increasing trend. 886 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,160 You might have remember, you might remember when Kim 887 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,160 Kardashian, this was several years ago now, was one of the 888 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,200 first big actors slash models, slash celebrity types to use 889 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,800 surrogacy. She had given birth herself to 890 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,200 her first few children and then she chose a surrogate. 891 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,120 This is what happened in the case of Megan. 892 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,360 Megan emphasized that surrogacy wasn't our first choice. 893 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,720 This is Megan Trainer, she says, but she decided it was the 894 00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:18,760 safest choice after extensive conversations with doctors 895 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,200 because of gestational diabetes and because of traumatic birth 896 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,440 experiences. So she had a body birth 897 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,640 experience and she experienced gestational diabetes in one of 898 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,080 her pregnancies. So then she said I'm not 899 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,920 carrying my future kids. I think this is absolutely 900 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,760 tragic. I, I do not think surrogacy 901 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,040 should be permitted. It should be allowed. 902 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,600 The human rights abuses that open that the doors have opened 903 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,160 to with surrogacy are devastating. 904 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,240 There is basically no checks and balances for people who have 905 00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:47,200 babies via surrogacy. Today. 906 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,720 You can be a single man with even a criminal record and you 907 00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:54,400 can go buy ultimately a baby via surrogacy, get hire a woman even 908 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,520 in another country to be a surrogate for you and have a 909 00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,200 baby. This is something that is 910 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,560 happening across the country. It's being used as elites, 911 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,000 though, to sidestep the risks or challenges of pregnancy and 912 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,040 instead have pay someone else to take those risks and challenges 913 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,280 on. Here's the reality According to 914 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,600 surveys and data that has been collected, surrogacy is actually 915 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,040 dangerous for surrogates. So there was a a study done 916 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,000 recently, this is from the Guardian 2024. 917 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,440 Surrogates face higher risk of pregnancy complications. 918 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,920 Women who act as pregnancy surrogates appear to have a 919 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,800 higher risk of pregnancy complications than those who 920 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,560 carry their own babies. The use of surrogates or 921 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,360 gestational karyos have boomed in recent years, but the risks 922 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,360 are increased, including severe postpartum hemorrhage and severe 923 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,760 preeclampsia than women who conceive naturally. 924 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,520 So the reality is, of course, pregnancy comes with risk. 925 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,480 Birth experiences can be beautiful or not so beautiful. 926 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,960 I know many first time moms have a really rough first birth 927 00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:01,200 experience. It's really tough. 928 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,280 My second birth was much easier than my first. 929 00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:07,360 I'm not trying to downplay Meghan Trainer's maybe fear of 930 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,280 birth or maybe gestational diabetes. 931 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,560 That is not, you know, not not something that shouldn't be, 932 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,160 that should be ignored. Of course, if you have 933 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,960 gestational diabetes, you need to work better on monitoring 934 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,320 that pregnancy and and your health. 935 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,280 But these are the reasons now we are buying another person's body 936 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,520 temporarily to literally gestate our own children. 937 00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:30,520 And I think about Megan's other kids. 938 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,240 I think about the fact that they were safely nestled and bonding 939 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:37,840 with their mother in so many beautiful ways as unborn babies. 940 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,160 And now this third child didn't get that opportunity. 941 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,320 And that is a tragedy. And so I think along with all of 942 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,080 the abuses that surrogacy opens the door for, there's also the 943 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,800 tragedy of the lack of that bond that is immediately formed 944 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,560 because that little baby spends its entire first nine months of 945 00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:01,480 life nestled inside the body of his or her mother and hearing 946 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,200 literally the heartbeat and the voice of his or her mother. 947 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,720 Keep that in mind. Like this baby that was handed 948 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:11,320 over to Megan has never heard her heartbeat before, has never 949 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,480 heard her voice before. She's a completely foreign 950 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,960 entity to this baby, almost like she's an adoptive mother or 951 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,560 someone that's a complete stranger as opposed to getting 952 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,680 the welcome of the voice and the the warm embrace of the mother 953 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,040 that had carried carried her. So I don't want us to normalize 954 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,040 surrogacy. I don't want us to celebrate it. 955 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,400 I don't think it should be permitted. 956 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,920 And as wonderful as it is that this baby is welcomed now 957 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,560 safely, praise God, it is not a practice that we should be 958 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,800 celebrating. The practice is the problem. 959 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,440 The baby's never the problem. The practice, the method of the 960 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,480 carrying or even the conception can be the problem. 961 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,600 All right, I promised you guys I would talk to you about DC. 962 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,680 So I just got back from Washington, DCA few days ago. 963 00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,520 It was an amazing trip. I was really moved by the 964 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,200 they're estimating 100,000 people. 965 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,480 I don't know if we have a marked picture. 966 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,560 I know we're going to show the picture with Secretary Kennedy, 967 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,240 but there were an estimated, if you go to my Instagram, you'll, 968 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,280 you can pull some of the images. There were an estimated 100,000 969 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,040 people marching the streets of DC. 970 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,120 Now I've had some people tell me, Lila, why are we still 971 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,920 marching for life? Roe V Wade is overturned. 972 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,240 The reason we marched for life in January was because of Roe V 973 00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:28,680 Wade back in 1973 being decided in January. 974 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,680 And so people say, you know, it's overturned now because of 975 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,200 Dobsy Jackson and so and you know, in June 2022. 976 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,360 So why are we still marching for life in DC in just in January? 977 00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:43,600 And my response is this, I see truly how life changing this 978 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,960 event has been now for decades for millions, ultimately of 979 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,720 young people who do brave the snow and the sleet and the cold 980 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,880 to stand up for life. And we are living in a post Roe 981 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,920 America. But the impact of Roe V. 982 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,080 Wade continues to live on because it didn't just change 983 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,080 our law when abortion was legalized on demand in 1973. 984 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,560 It changed the country's culture. 985 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,760 It changed our society dramatically because now the 986 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,840 law, being a teacher, the law is a teacher, the law was now 987 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,760 teaching people that abortion was totally OK and it was a 988 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,320 woman's right and all the rhetoric and the politics that 989 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,720 came with that. And so I think marching, you 990 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:25,800 know, do I wish the March was a different month? 991 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,320 In one sense, yes. Would I like to see a March in 992 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,280 June to March about, you know, to celebrate the good parts of 993 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,520 Dobsy Jackson and call for complete abolition of abortion, 994 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,320 make it completely eradicated federally? 995 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,800 Yes. And and we do have events around 996 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,920 the time of the Dobsy Jackson case in June. 997 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,880 But I think there's a legacy here that's valuable and there's 998 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,440 a habit that's been formed that's valuable because I know 999 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,920 for a fact that when young people March for life, I've seen 1000 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,160 it myself, it inspires them in a special way to be out there with 1001 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,160 10s of thousands of other people marching also for life. 1002 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:01,920 It leaves an indelible mark that they remember and it helps with 1003 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,160 their own journey of pro-life advocacy and activism. 1004 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,880 So also being out there for the March for Life, I gave a ton of 1005 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,080 talks I was doing. I was very busy and I was 1006 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,880 blessed to go out there with my kids. 1007 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,520 So we were able to have some wonderful play dates with 1008 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:17,600 friends that I have out there as well. 1009 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,760 And then I just tried to cram work and just get a bunch of 1010 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,760 work done. And what I was able to do was a 1011 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,200 debate at Georgetown University that was great. 1012 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,000 You can see that on the live action YouTube. 1013 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,680 We did a press conference on Capitol Hill calling for the 1014 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,640 abortion pill to be taken off the market. 1015 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,600 We had meetings with the administration and Secretary 1016 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,920 Kennedy. One of the the facts that many 1017 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,680 people don't realize on the pro-life issue is that the 1018 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,960 majority of abortions today are done via the chemical abortion 1019 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,160 pill. This is the reason abortions 1020 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,360 have increased in the last three years. 1021 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,440 Some people are saying, well, pro-life laws don't work. 1022 00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:59,880 Pro-life laws work if the federal government isn't 1023 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,960 allowing the abortion pill to be illegally sold across state 1024 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,080 lines. And that's what's happening. 1025 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,040 Tragically, the reality is the abortion pill is being sold 1026 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,000 across state lines. And you can order the abortion 1027 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,960 pill to your home by literally pressing a button. 1028 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,440 You can do a very brief Zoom call effectively with a medical 1029 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,760 provider who's not even necessarily a medical provider, 1030 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,320 who will ship the mail, the pills to your doorstep or your 1031 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,880 mailbox. And This is why over 60% now of 1032 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,400 abortions are the abortion pill. Now what does this mean? 1033 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,640 And not only means that we have over 1,000,000 abortions a year 1034 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,880 now, with over 600,000 of them being the abortion pill. 1035 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,400 It means that it's the Wild West for unregulated and very 1036 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,120 dangerous abortions. Not just lethal for the baby, 1037 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,960 but dangerous for the mom. There was a study by the ethics 1038 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,880 public, the Ethics and Public Policy Center that came out last 1039 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,080 year that surveyed insurance data of women who had abortion. 1040 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,640 So it was anonymized data. It wasn't like telling any 1041 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,160 people's personal medical records. 1042 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,240 But it found from Acesta, a sample of hundreds of thousands 1043 00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:07,600 of women that the women that took the abortion pill, one out 1044 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:12,440 of every 22 of them landed in the emergency room and one out 1045 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:17,080 of every ten of them had serious adverse side effects from the 1046 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,560 abortion pill. So the abortion pill almost 100% 1047 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,400 of the time kills the baby. Sometimes actually the baby 1048 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,120 survives. It's very rare. 1049 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,440 And sometimes the baby can be saved via the abortion pill 1050 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,200 reversal method that women may opt to take. 1051 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,840 Thank praise God, 7000 babies have been saved that way. 1052 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:39,160 But in virtually every case, the the large majority of the babies 1053 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,360 killed and then in one out every 10 cases, the woman has serious 1054 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,440 adverse side effects. One out of every 22 cases she 1055 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:50,720 lands in the emergency room. To put this in perspective, and 1056 00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:54,080 this was even shared with me in the meeting I'm about to tell 1057 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,240 you about. To put this in perspective, if 1058 00:53:57,240 --> 00:54:02,000 the FDA, the FDA knows of any drug that is causing one out of 1059 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,240 every 10 people who take it to have serious adverse side 1060 00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:09,600 effects, they have the policy to pull that drug from the market. 1061 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,040 You take that drug off the market should not be on the 1062 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,040 market because that is a dangerous drug. 1063 00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:18,840 Well friends, the abortion pill is on the market right now and 1064 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,400 not only is it on the market, it was illegally put on the market 1065 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,080 under President Clinton way back when. 1066 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,680 In 2000. The Food and Drug Administration 1067 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,320 bypassed their own protocols and illegally authorized its use 1068 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,480 without any really studies or regulations being followed. 1069 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,680 Protocols being followed and they put the abortion pill on 1070 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,800 the market RU 486. They were required at the time 3 1071 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,800 doctors visits to confirm that the baby was in the womb instead 1072 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,000 of in the fallopian tubes. To confirm it wasn't an ectopic 1073 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,800 pregnancy. To check gestational age of the 1074 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,120 baby because these pills are supposed to be taken in the 1075 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,200 first trimester when the baby is little, not when the baby is 1076 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,440 older. And also to check on the woman 1077 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:05,240 after the abortion pill has been taken to confirm that there's no 1078 00:55:05,240 --> 00:55:08,120 baby parts left inside of her and the babies actually had been 1079 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:09,560 killed. I mean, it's horrific, right? 1080 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,600 But that was the original policy under Clinton, who was a raging 1081 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,280 pro abort. Remember, President Clinton 1082 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,080 refused to sign the Partial Birth abortion ban act. 1083 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,360 He wanted partial birth abortion to be legal. 1084 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,800 That's how pro abortion Clinton was. 1085 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,160 But he even said there should be 3 doctors visits. 1086 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,600 Obama removed one of the doctor's visits or actually two 1087 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:35,120 of the doctor's visits. And then President Biden during 1088 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,480 COVID removed the last doctor's visit. 1089 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,040 So now you can order these lethal drugs directly to your 1090 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,480 door. No doctor to be seen. 1091 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,320 What does this mean? It means that if you're a woman 1092 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,000 with an ectopic pregnancy, that's one to 2% of all women 1093 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,160 who get pregnant have an ectopic pregnancy. 1094 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,320 The baby is not in the womb. She's he or she is not in the 1095 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:55,680 uterus. They're in the fallopian tube or 1096 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,160 elsewhere. You take it. 1097 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,760 You take an abortion pill with that situation, the baby can 1098 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,240 still be killed, but the baby can't be expelled in the same 1099 00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:07,040 way because they're in the fallopian tube. 1100 00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:10,080 It can kill the mother. There could be an internal 1101 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,240 hemorrhaging, bleeding and death for the mother. 1102 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,880 It's extremely dangerous. Also, these babies could be a 1103 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,960 lot older and the mother's taking the abortion pill. 1104 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,200 There's no way to ascertain the gestational age because there's 1105 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,080 no ultrasound right now. So the mother and this this has 1106 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,320 happened. These are horrible cases. 1107 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,720 Live Action News reports us all the time. 1108 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,080 The baby could be 20 weeks old. The baby could be 8 months old 1109 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,360 and a mother can take the abortion pill and it can cause 1110 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,080 profound horrific suffering for that baby. 1111 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,840 It can cause a late term abortion. 1112 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,600 Sometimes the baby can be born alive. 1113 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,160 This has happened by the way. And again, it's the Wild West. 1114 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,160 So let me just share briefly my meeting, what I can share with 1115 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,400 you. We were able to meet with 1116 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,560 Secretary Kennedy. Here's a picture of from that 1117 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,680 meeting. I was able to talk with him. 1118 00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:59,360 I was surprised. I was impressed that Secretary 1119 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,000 Kennedy knew as much as he knew. I went in there not sure about 1120 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,360 the posture because Secretary Kennedy has said before he 1121 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,240 supports abortion. This is not some pro-life person 1122 00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:12,040 saying I love being a pro-life and I wanted to protect babies. 1123 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,400 He said some comments that seemed to indicate pro-life 1124 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,120 support. So it's been a bit mixed. 1125 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,960 But overall he's said as when he campaigned for president that he 1126 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,960 supported abortion. He seemed well aware of some of 1127 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,320 the risks of the abortion pill. And I can say that the 1128 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,520 administration is, is indicating publicly and and privately that 1129 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,960 they are looking into the abortion pill. 1130 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,040 They're doing their own research to ascertain whether it's safe 1131 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,560 or not. Now, none of that is acceptable 1132 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,840 when you consider it is definitely not safe. 1133 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,680 Forget for the mother for a minute, it's lethal for the 1134 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,840 baby. There's no way for the abortion 1135 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,680 pill to be made safe, safe. It's designed to kill a baby, 1136 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,440 starve to death and forcibly expel a baby. 1137 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,840 So in that sense, there is no grounds whatsoever under which 1138 00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,480 the abortion pill should be legal and on our market, because 1139 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,760 the FDA is supposed to protect the American people, that 1140 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,600 includes unborn people, from lethal drugs that are designed 1141 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,640 to harm and not heal. And the abortion pill is 1142 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,800 designed to kill. That's its whole job is to kill. 1143 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,720 And I'm talking about mythopristone used as an 1144 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,400 abortifacion because some people are listening and say, well, 1145 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,880 Lila, it's also used to complete a miscarriage after the baby has 1146 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,280 passed. That's totally fine. 1147 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,280 Sell that all you want. If the baby has already passed 1148 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,440 and you're trying to complete a miscarriage, it's totally 1149 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,600 acceptable. The baby is living and you're 1150 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,200 trying to kill the baby. It is completely unacceptable. 1151 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,880 So where I'll leave it as this. We were able to have a 1152 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,240 conversation. I do think the administration 1153 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,160 cares about what the base is saying, what the pro-life people 1154 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,680 care about and say the pro family base. 1155 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,720 We need to raise our voices very loudly right now and say, 1156 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,640 President Trump, pull the pill for the market. 1157 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,000 It's deadly for babies, it's dangerous for women. 1158 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,560 And they are hearing. They are hearing it and it does 1159 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,560 impact what they do. So that is my bottom line here 1160 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,760 after my meetings, after my advocacy and activism in DC, we 1161 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,240 have to speak louder. Live Action will be doing more 1162 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,360 investigative reporting. So go check out what we're doing 1163 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,360 over at Live Action and support what we're doing. 1164 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,640 And we're going to continue to raise the alarm about these 1165 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,800 deadly drugs. And I believe that if enough 1166 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,800 people speak out, we will see action. 1167 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:25,520 So pray for the abortion pill to be taken off the market and call 1168 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,000 on Congress. We have a petition over at 1169 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,560 liveaction.org. We are doing a lot of activism 1170 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,160 around this and work. Call on Congress, call on the 1171 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,840 FDA. Congress does have a role to 1172 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,800 play, but I'll, I'll, I'll explain what their role is in a 1173 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,600 minute. Call on the FDA, call on the 1174 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,840 administration to pull the abortion pill. 1175 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,080 What are we calling in Congress to do? 1176 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,240 And ultimately it will include Trump. 1177 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,400 Complete defund of Planned Parenthood. 1178 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,560 That's the other big objective this year for the public 1179 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,360 movement politically pull the abortion pill and we need 1180 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,360 complete defunding of Planned Parenthood. 1181 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,200 They have been defunded for one year and it is time, you know, 1182 00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,840 and this is not even all of their funding. 1183 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,200 It's most of their funding federally, but not all. 1184 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,840 We need to make that funding complete and permanent. 1185 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,040 So please, if you're not already following live action, please do 1186 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,720 that because we need the whole movement to be engaged right 1187 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,440 now. And these are the political 1188 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,040 fights that we are fighting. All right, I'm going to take a 1189 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,080 minute to look at the chat here. Thank you everybody for tuning 1190 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:23,200 in today. So First off here, this is from 1191 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,680 Silver Bear saying I truly do hope this administration does 1192 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,840 something about the prevalence of these pills. 1193 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:34,680 I totally agree, Wandervy says. Ali Beth Stuckey says that 1194 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,520 adoption fixes a broken situation and that surrogacy 1195 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,880 creates 1. Yes, this is the messaging also 1196 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,640 of our the great Katie Faust. I'm very proud to be part of a 1197 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,840 campaign she's running about how children deserve a mother and a 1198 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,560 father. And she says this as well, that 1199 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,720 adoption fixes a broken situation. 1200 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,840 This is why we celebrate adoption as pro lifers, but we 1201 01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,240 don't celebrate surrogacy because surrogacy is designed to 1202 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:04,320 bring a new life into the world, often to break those core bonds 1203 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,880 that that they deserve to have with their mother and their 1204 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,440 father. But adoption is when their 1205 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,280 mother and their father isn't able to care for them. 1206 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,840 And so there's somebody else that can help heal that broken 1207 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:18,320 relationship. Another comment here, this is 1208 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,600 from K Fine. He says, or I think she says. 1209 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,720 I remember when our when my sister, a nurse in the 1210 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,640 Philippines back then, tried to visit the US to see our 1211 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,880 relatives but was asked to turn back around because she was seen 1212 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,880 as a potential illegal immigrant. 1213 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,440 And this was during the Obama administration. 1214 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,160 So, you know, again, nations have the right to do this. 1215 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,800 They have the right to regulate their borders. 1216 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,640 This is where I think people accuse the left of being 1217 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,800 inconsistent because some people on the left, when you really 1218 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,560 push them, they're like, yeah, open borders. 1219 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,000 I support no border. And that's not tenable. 1220 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,880 No, virtually no country has that. 1221 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,560 But borders matter. And this is, again, where rule 1222 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,000 of law matters. But then how do we humanely 1223 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,400 enforce rule of law and also recognize if someone's been here 1224 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,640 illegally for many decades, brought here illegally as a 1225 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,760 child, is it worth the chaos and the potential inhumane 1226 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,480 treatment? Is it the right thing to do, to 1227 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,480 do a mass deportation policy? And that's why a lot of Catholic 1228 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,360 Bishops are saying, no, actually, that's not the right 1229 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,720 move, Secure the border. But mass deportations, 1230 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,880 indiscriminate deportations is not the solution. 1231 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,960 Chicago says whatever you did for the least of my brethren, 1232 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,920 you did it for me. The Lord allows us to see you in 1233 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,520 the most marginalized. Lord allow us to see you in the 1234 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,520 most marginalized of society. Allowed us to remember that 1235 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,880 undocumented immigrants are still human beings. 1236 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,000 It's not about Democrats or Republicans. 1237 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,800 It's about 1 nation. We are in this together and 1238 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,440 Christ wants unity, not division. 1239 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,920 I love that sentiment. I think that's that is that is 1240 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,440 true God. That is what Christ wants 1241 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,720 ultimately. But we also need to unify with 1242 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,000 what is true. And I think what is true is both 1243 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,320 protecting human dignity, not creating chaos in communities, 1244 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,400 being realistic, and then also having a secure border and 1245 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,800 recognizing that there are agents of chaos in politics who 1246 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,080 are trying to just create chaos and not have a secure border and 1247 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:13,560 not have any rule of law. A few more a few more comments 1248 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:19,280 here. This is from Illani says you can 1249 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,960 support secure borders and rule of law, but also insist on 1250 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,880 treating all human beings with dignity. 1251 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,760 And I do think that that take is what a lot of people are saying 1252 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,880 right now. And that's not to say, oh, 1253 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:37,360 you're becoming a leftist or oh, you're just hating on the right 1254 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,160 or Trump. I think that's what most people 1255 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,800 are saying. We don't want to see violent 1256 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,040 altercations in our communities. Yeah, the protesters have a 1257 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,360 responsibility to not show up and do violent protest 100%. 1258 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:54,440 But also law enforcement has the federal law enforcement has a 1259 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,840 responsibility to to be as thoughtful and strategic as 1260 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:02,080 possible with how to carry out missions that make sense, that 1261 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,920 are as much in line with those communities will. 1262 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,600 I mean, some people have even said, well, if Minneapolis 1263 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,800 doesn't want them want, you know, federal law enforcement 1264 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,440 there, why is federal law enforcement showing up? 1265 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,800 Well, they'd have a responsibility to enforce 1266 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,760 federal law. But at the same time, you know, 1267 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,360 maybe go to communities that and, and this is, you know, 1268 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,640 Bishop Baron to some degree saying let's deport the violent 1269 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,920 criminals. But maybe we should have a, a, a 1270 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,960 softening period here. And it looks like President 1271 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,880 Trump is moving in alignment with that, which is, I think, 1272 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,720 great progress. All right, everyone, thank you. 1273 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,360 Thanks for joining and letting me talk through my thoughts here 1274 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,240 on immigration. And I very much welcome your 1275 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,000 comments and your notes in in the comment section. 1276 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,080 Please leave them. And thank you so much for your 1277 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,760 support of live action. People have been so supportive 1278 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,640 of our our mission right now to take the abortion pill off the 1279 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,440 market, as well as to ensure that we completely defund the 1280 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,440 abortion industry. And the most important part of 1281 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,560 our mission is to change culture. 1282 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,640 Politics must change, but we got to change culture too, and 1283 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,320 that's one heart and one mind at a time. 1284 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,520 So thank you so much for your amazing support of live action. 1285 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,120 Thanks everybody and we will see you next time.