1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 No, masculinity is a positive thing. 2 00:00:02,280 --> 00:00:04,600 And you know who believes that more than anybody? 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,120 Women. Liberal women believe that. 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,480 And here's how you know, we need more men that understand that 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,800 it's not good enough to just be intelligent. 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,200 It's not good enough to just be wealthy. 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,600 And ultimately, it's not good enough to just be strong, too. 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,120 You have to be honorable. You have to be noble. 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,680 It's protect, it's like it's oriented. 10 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,720 It's not. It's the difference between I 11 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,560 want to be capable because I want the Bugatti and the women 12 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,480 versus I want to be capable because I want to be able to be 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,560 there for the people I love and the moment they need me the 14 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,840 most. Nick Freitas, welcome back to 15 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,800 the podcast. Oh, it's great to be back on 16 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:41,680 Lila. Thanks for having me. 17 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,760 You're amazing. Green Beret, combat veteran, 18 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,080 elected House of the Virginia House of Delegates. 19 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,640 Also social media and podcast sensation. 20 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,120 I think you're in many ways like the new Jordan Peterson for 21 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,640 many, many young men. And I'm grateful it's you 22 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,160 because you're doing a phenomenal job of it. 23 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,520 So, yeah, thanks for coming on. I think there's a lot to a lot 24 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,000 to catch up on and talk about. Well, I, I really appreciate it. 25 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,120 I'll, I'll, I'll take all those compliments even though I'm 26 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:11,080 deserving of none. So you were, you are right. 27 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,120 Now, I know you're working, you have multiple jobs, but one of 28 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:20,240 your key jobs is you are with the Virginia House of Delegates. 29 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,160 You're an elected, elected member, and you just did a crazy 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,320 vote yesterday. Can you just share what you've 31 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:27,520 been up to in the last couple days? 32 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,280 Sure. Well, the, the Democrats control 33 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,760 the Virginia General Assembly by one seat in the House and one 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,560 seat in the Senate. We have a, a pretty, a pretty 35 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,120 detailed process for many in the Constitution of Virginia. 36 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,040 And one of the things that you have to understand about the way 37 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,160 that process works is the governor has nothing to do with 38 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,200 it. It's the House, the Senate, and 39 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,080 a referendum to the people. And the way it needs to work is 40 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,040 in order to pass the constitutional amendment, you 41 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,360 have to pass it through the House and the Senate one year, 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,480 have an intervening election, then pass the exact same 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,600 language to the House and the Senate the following year. 44 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,760 Then it goes to the referendum for the people. 45 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:09,320 And the three, three amendments that they proposed was an 46 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,080 automatic restoration of voting rights for convicted felons upon 47 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,360 the completion of their sentence, which there's elements 48 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,360 of that that I agree with. The problem is that some of the 49 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,560 most egregious crimes get treated like, you know, petty 50 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,320 larceny. There was the they're they're 51 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,320 enshrining same sex marriage. They're attempting to enshrine 52 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,040 not just same sex marriage, but a differentiation between sex 53 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,640 and gender in the Virginia Constitution. 54 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:42,920 And then HJ one, which is arguably the most pro abortion, 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,760 it's arguably the most pro abortion policy and almost 56 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,720 anywhere in the world. I, I think North Korea beats us 57 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,600 out, but it is, it is more extreme than anything that you 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,120 would see in Europe, more extreme than anything that you 59 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,520 would see in again, any other state. 60 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,040 It would essentially allow abortion all the way up to the 61 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,800 point of birth and the third trimester. 62 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,480 All you would need is 1 doctor and that includes the 63 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,400 abortionist to say that you need it for mental health reasons. 64 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,120 So if you say that pregnancy makes you stressed, then the 65 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,800 doctor that's getting paid to perform your abortion can bless 66 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,680 off and say yes, you need an abortion at month 9. 67 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,640 And so we're going to perform that very robust floor debates. 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,200 We had some guys do a great job, Delegate Mark Early, Delegate 69 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,040 Carrie Coyner, Delegate Tom Garrett and myself all spoke on 70 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,960 this Delegate Tim Griffin and it passed 51 to 49. 71 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,600 And so that's that is the state of things in the Commonwealth of 72 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,200 Virginia. And, and this would have been, 73 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,360 this would have been thought, this would have been unthinkable 74 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:59,560 five years ago, but here we are. What is your take on how we got 75 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,960 to that place politically? I mean, I have a lot of 76 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,440 opinions, as you know. I know you have opinions we're 77 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,120 dealing with. We're about to have the 78 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,680 inauguration of, you know, President Donald Trump. 79 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:15,040 And he's, you know, obviously on the right, he's elected as a 80 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,079 Republican, all of this. But he has backed down on life 81 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,640 in a lot of ways, which has been really tough. 82 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,520 And I think that sent a message to a lot of other politicians. 83 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,080 Someone Like You who I think is doing an incredible job, is 84 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,560 persuasively standing for life and fighting for the protection 85 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,320 of children. But unfortunately, there's other 86 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,760 politicians that are not doing that. 87 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,040 And then certainly the Democrat side, there's complete chaos. 88 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,160 I mean, everyone's just pro abortion endlessly. 89 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,560 But what's your take on how things have changed so quickly, 90 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,600 especially in Virginia, in the last five years? 91 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,440 There's a lot of things we can point to and I, I don't want to 92 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,960 over, I don't want to oversimplify it, right? 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,560 I I think that we, there's both a political side of this and a 94 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,200 cultural side to this. And we could, we could sit here 95 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,280 and wax intellectual about postmodernism and 96 00:04:58,280 --> 00:05:01,880 deconstructionism and rampant hedonistic secularism and 97 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,680 everything. And all those are, are useful 98 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,840 conversations. But here's one statistic that I 99 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:10,880 think tells us a lot about how we got to where we are when 100 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:17,160 roughly 85% of sex education curriculum is blessed off and 101 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,280 approved by the abortion industry. 102 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,640 What you have is a systematic approach in order to change the 103 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,880 way that young people think about a particular topic. 104 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:30,400 And Speaking of Jordan Peterson there, there's a book that he 105 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,240 talks about called Ordinary Men. And one of the things that they 106 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,200 tried to analyze and that is how do you convince otherwise 107 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:43,120 caring, compassionate people to agree to truly horrendous 108 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,680 things? And when you start to understand 109 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,160 that it's this, it's this process of of dehumanization, of 110 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,720 flipping the victim, this versus perpetrator narrative. 111 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,640 And then perhaps the most pernicious of all of it is when 112 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,840 you can convince somebody that what they're doing is for the 113 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:06,240 good of the victim, you can get someone to not only agree to do 114 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,400 something, but celebrate it. And I, and I think that says a 115 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,560 lot about where we are culturally, is that there's been 116 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,120 a concerted effort, not just within politics, but within 117 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:19,760 education and within Hollywood and popular culture to convince 118 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,720 women that pregnancy is something that stands in the way 119 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,000 of them being able to achieve the things that they want. 120 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,800 And that if there's any chance that a child is going to grow up 121 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,120 in an environment that less is less than ideal, then it is 122 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,080 actually an act of compassion and responsibility to kill that 123 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,320 child. And if you can convince people 124 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,560 of that, then again, they won't just support it, they'll 125 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,720 celebrate it. And that's where we're at. 126 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,680 And it's been a long process, but it's here. 127 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,520 Well, and I think it's the direct fruit, and we've talked 128 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,880 about this, I know before, and you talk about this a lot, you 129 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,200 know, masculinity, femininity, the fruit of modern feminism, 130 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,280 the sexual revolution, all of these things. 131 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,720 And you end up with right is left, up is down, you know, 132 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,320 complete moral chaos and people just not seeing a life is a 133 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,080 life. What is sex designed for? 134 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,400 What is marriage? All these things. 135 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,520 There are two things that. Yeah, go ahead. 136 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,200 Can I say one thing on that too? Because I, I said, I said what 137 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,760 they've convinced young women of, but I think we also need, we 138 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,240 also need to understand what they've convinced young men of. 139 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,400 They've, they've convinced young men that every instinct that 140 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:31,240 they would have to protect a woman, protect a child, as in, 141 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,120 in many respects, just been beaten out of them. 142 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,960 This idea of a, a healthy look at masculinity, everything has 143 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,720 been encapsulated this, this false concept of toxic 144 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,240 masculinity. And the end result is, is that 145 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,160 rather than correcting for certain behaviors, which, which 146 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,960 may have, may have needed reform or, or, or a different way of 147 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,600 looking at something, they just simply branded masculinity is 148 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,800 the problem. And I think a lot of a lot of 149 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,840 men have been not only and not only just giving up on, they 150 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,800 haven't just given up on the responsibility because that's 151 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,240 what they wanted to do. They were deliberately told 152 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,440 that's what they should be doing, that this is this is not 153 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,720 their issue. And the end result is, is that a 154 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,000 lot of men looked at it as, OK, this is not my issue. 155 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,760 And when you look at young women in crisis with respect to 156 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,760 whether or not they're going to keep their child, the most 157 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,040 influential person in that decision making process is 158 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,840 generally whether or not the father of the child is going to 159 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,040 stand by them and the child. And if he says that he's going 160 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,280 to do that, the odds of them keeping the child increase 161 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,240 significantly. And that tends to change one's 162 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,320 mindset about how they look at this issue. 163 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,640 But if they go through with the abortion, then all of a sudden 164 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,880 there's the sense of loss, there's the sense of shame, of 165 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,880 pain, of abandonment. And now they're looking for 166 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,720 someone to support them in the abortion industry. 167 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,160 And the abortion movement is more than happy to pretend as if 168 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,120 they're they're real family. And I think that men need to 169 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,440 understand that they play an incredibly important role in 170 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,040 this process and that when they do stand up and actually fulfill 171 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,440 that role, it has an incredible impact on the cultural attitudes 172 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:11,040 toward this. We had a guy in studio, a former 173 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,240 Fire Chief, a retired fire, excuse me, a retired fire 174 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,120 captain, Paul Ibarra. And he used to work for the 175 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,120 LAFD, the Los Angeles County Fire Department. 176 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:25,520 And he was sharing about, you know, very politely because he's 177 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,080 like a very noble, nice guy. He's not trying to like, hurt 178 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,240 people or be mean. He's there. 179 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,920 He served as a firefighter for, I think it was 37 years, you 180 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,920 know, doing incredible stuff, helping save lives, helping 181 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,920 protect homes and cities and everything else. 182 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,720 And he was talking about how, like, he's basically talking 183 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,680 about DEI and how no longer is the firefighting mantra like, 184 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:48,280 find the best man for the job, you know, find men that have. 185 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,920 He talked about virtue. They're strong. 186 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,600 I mean, Paul is, you know, 6/1. He said 200. 187 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:55,440 Now he's like a big guy. He was saying now it's about 188 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:59,640 like inclusivity, like everybody should be, you know, able to be 189 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,440 a firefighter if they want. And then the the head of the 190 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,560 fire, the head of the fire department now in Los Angeles 191 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:10,320 responding to these crazy fires out here is a woman. 192 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,280 She's lesbian. And she's on record saying we 193 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,320 need to be more inclusive. We need more people who look 194 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,040 like me to be here at the fire department. 195 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,960 There's also this viral clip going around. 196 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,560 I don't know if we can pull it up to play at Harrah's. 197 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:24,680 I'm putting on the spot here, but there's a viral clip going 198 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:27,760 around of a firefighter in Los Angeles, a woman, I don't know 199 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,800 if she's like LGBT identified, whatever. 200 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,640 And you you probably saw this next. 201 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,360 We actually, we actually just did a reel on this. 202 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,200 Of course you did. Before yesterday, yeah, Said, 203 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,640 you know, I've had somebody ask me, could you pull my husband 204 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,280 out of a fire? To which I respond, if your 205 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,560 husband got himself in a fire, he got himself in the wrong 206 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:47,320 place and. Like it's his fault. 207 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:50,800 The ultimate victim shaming. Well, and I did a response to 208 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,320 that and I said, you know, I got a slightly different take on 209 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,440 this. I think this was the only person 210 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,560 in the Los Angeles Fire Department actually being honest 211 00:10:57,560 --> 00:10:59,160 with what you could expect in a fire. 212 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,520 Wow. This is, This is what happens 213 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,440 when you prioritize characteristics that have 214 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,040 nothing to do with the substance of the job. 215 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,360 And, and I've been, I've been working through this in my mind 216 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,040 for a while now to try to explain in a way that I would 217 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,720 hope people would understand why concepts like DEI are so 218 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,920 harmful, not just to the people you think, but to everybody. 219 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,000 And, and it was fascinating. I was, I was, I was watching 220 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,560 something about Jackie Robinson and I've, I've always been a 221 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:32,120 Dodgers fan. And so I was a big Jackie 222 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,040 Robinson fan. It was like, you know, the the 223 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:40,000 number of ball clubs that refused to make their team 224 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,680 better because they elevated characteristics that had nothing 225 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:47,240 to do with the substance of the job versus those characteristics 226 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,160 would had everything to do with the substance of the job is 227 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,320 incredible. And it didn't just hurt Jackie 228 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,800 Robinson, you know, and delay him being able to play in the 229 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,360 major leagues. It actually hurt every ball 230 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,720 club. It hurt everybody that was 231 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,840 watching baseball because they were all being denied the best 232 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,560 game possible. And it's, and it's tragic when 233 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:06,840 people are denied opportunities and denied the best game 234 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,720 possible because of arbitrary and superficial reasons. 235 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,920 But it is absolutely horrifying when you do the same thing in 236 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,640 professions and situations where lives are on the line instead of 237 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,880 runs. And, and that's where we're at 238 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,360 right now. And it and it doesn't make 239 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,200 anybody better. It doesn't make anybody better. 240 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,360 You do not do anybody a favor by putting them in a job for which 241 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,320 they have no capacity to perform the necessary tasks. 242 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:35,680 In fact, what you do is you deny someone with the necessary skill 243 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:38,160 sets the opportunity. 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And so, but what's more 277 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,600 important to you is saying winning the Notre Dame, like 278 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,280 winning the Notre Dame team winning or your wife and your 279 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,440 child and your home and your pets and your property being 280 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,760 saved from a crazy life threatening event. 281 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,520 Like who do you want saving you, you know, in the middle of a 282 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,680 catastrophe, right? So, you know, you, you've been 283 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,840 such a wonderful voice on this. And I think you know, but but 284 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,560 you know, your husband, your father, you're a businessman, 285 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,160 you're obviously a communicator. You're a you're a politician, 286 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,800 you're a green Beret combat veteran. 287 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,560 Like this is this is this makeup that you I think, you know, I 288 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,200 think some people say, well, people like, you know, right now 289 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,600 Andrew Tate has announced that he's going to be running for 290 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,680 office, I guess in in Britain, you know, he's an online yeah, 291 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:01,960 you know, past, past involved in pornography, all this 292 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,280 entertainer. And there's this voice on the 293 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,400 right or people on the right who are saying the reason that men 294 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,760 are attracted to what you could call, yeah, there's toxic 295 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,920 masculinity. Let's say that that's it is 296 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,320 because there's a lack of masculine role models on the 297 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,440 right. And so I want to ask you about 298 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,920 that. And then I want to ask you about 299 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,640 some Mark Zuckerberg statements that were made recently, as well 300 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,200 as the Andrew Tate stuff. But let's start there because I 301 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,560 see you as a as a role model on the right and a great one that 302 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,440 like checks all the boxes. And so I don't know that there's 303 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:32,920 a lack of role models on the right. 304 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,000 I think maybe there's just a lack of awareness perhaps that 305 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,440 people may have. But I also think someone like 306 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,280 and Andrew Tate who has done all of this, you know, horrible 307 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,760 background, even just recently talking about women as sex 308 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,200 workers. I mean, he's not like a reformed 309 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,960 guy. He's going out and saying and 310 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:52,960 doing really dark things, right? He is very loud and abrasive and 311 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,640 knows how to obviously get go, you know, make posts on the 312 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,840 Internet go viral. And he has built a whole kind of 313 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,600 media empire for himself to do that to get clicks and 314 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,920 attention. And so if that's what people 315 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,760 think is out there, right, then that's what they might say, 316 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,400 well, there's not an alternative. 317 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,080 So what's your take on that? Because I know you're in the 318 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,960 media space and you're putting in the work every day and you're 319 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,440 reaching millions of people as well. 320 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,320 How do you how do you see this complaint on the from some that 321 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,400 there's not enough role models? So let me let me try a different 322 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,520 take it Andrew Tate, because I, this is another thing I thought 323 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,920 a lot about recently. And, and I will say this. 324 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:35,400 The left is absolutely adamant that anybody that's in the 325 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,480 masculine space online has to be fighting with Andrew Tate. 326 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,360 And I think the reason for that is because they realize they 327 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,520 can't take him down. Because whenever you have an 328 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,840 ideology like woke progressivism, which has become 329 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,440 increasingly built upon the idea of alienating young men, what 330 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,320 that means is you deprive yourself of the very thing you 331 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,040 need to fight. Woke doesn't win. 332 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,560 I've said this before. No matter who wins, it isn't 333 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,440 woke because you cannot win when you have completely alienated 334 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,480 young men. So they need men on the right to 335 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,599 fight Andrew Tate. And I understand this and I 336 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:12,000 understand the strategy behind it because Andrew Tate stands 337 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,200 for a lot of find a lot of things that I find morally 338 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,400 reprehensible. The the stuff that has happened 339 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:24,680 with respect to the pornography, the, you know, quasi 340 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:29,920 prostitution really is just that it's, it's horrific. 341 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,320 On the other side of this, there's no question that Andrew 342 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,320 Tate is highly intelligent, very competent, is a champion 343 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,600 kickboxer. I despise the business that that 344 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,440 he was largely in and and really made a lot of his money in, but 345 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,480 there's no question that he was immensely wealthy. 346 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,800 So if you're a young man and what you're being fed by the 347 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,440 left is you need to be emasculated. 348 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,840 If you're looking around at the right and all you see is a bunch 349 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,720 of men that you don't feel are willing to actually step up. 350 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,920 It's a it's another problem we've had in the church where 351 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:08,240 we, we have a lot of men that just maybe they are 352 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,480 intellectual, but they, they come off as weak. 353 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,600 They just come off as weak. And I'm not surprised why young 354 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,040 men look at someone like Andrew Tate and say, you know what, say 355 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,800 what you want. He's powerful, he's competent. 356 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,600 He's actually addressing the issues that I feel as a man. 357 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,920 I'm being just blamed for things I've never done or never been 358 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,560 guilty of. I'm being told that I'm 359 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,120 responsible for all of society's ills and I'm 16. 360 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:38,000 How am I responsible? And yet this guy seems to have 361 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,440 answers, at least for the the basic things that men tend to 362 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,840 want. We want respect. 363 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,000 We want to be, we want to be admired. 364 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:47,040 We want to be loved. We love the idea. 365 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,160 I mean, we, we want to, you know, we want to have a 366 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,280 beautiful woman like, and he's got these things. 367 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,680 And so I understand where young men are coming from. 368 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,600 And I think that there's an element to the things that 369 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,760 Andrew Tate has identified that are legitimate problems and in 370 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,240 some respects has done a very good job of effectively 371 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,120 discussing them. So the question is, is what is 372 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:12,680 the response from the right? If we're saying don't be that, 373 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,840 well, what are we giving them as an alternative? 374 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,880 And right now what they're seeing as well, I guess I'm 375 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,640 supposed to be emasculated, weak and have 47 pronouns and like, 376 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,160 well, I'm not going to do that. The thing that I would say is 377 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,680 that it, it is, it is always going to be harder to combat 378 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:35,400 what in many respects is not totally, but certainly more 379 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,680 hedonistic in nature because there's, there's that impulse to 380 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,840 want nice things to again, want beautiful women. 381 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,520 Like all of that. Like there's, that's just there. 382 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,520 It's it's easy to identify and it's easy to sell. 383 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,760 We need more men that understand that it's not good enough to 384 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,240 just be intelligent. It's not good enough to just be, 385 00:19:56,360 --> 00:19:59,240 you know, wealthy. And ultimately it's not good 386 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,080 enough to just be strong too. You have to be honorable. 387 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,600 You have to be noble. And you don't, you don't get 388 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,880 that through secular humanism. There has to be an objective 389 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,360 standard of right and wrong in order for you to even have a 390 00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:20,000 concept of honor and nobility. And so I was speaking at, I was 391 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,920 speaking at liberty a while back and I said, you want to know why 392 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,720 nice guys finished last? Because they should. 393 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,240 He said Jesus was not a nice guy. 394 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,680 He was intelligent, he was compassionate, he was tender, 395 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,760 but he was also incredibly bold, courageous, willing to 396 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,240 sacrifice, willing to endure pain, willing to engage in 397 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,360 physical violence when necessary, but all for an 398 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:53,320 incredibly pure purpose and to protect the innocent from those 399 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,960 that would harm and exploit them, up to and including his 400 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,560 own life. Now, obviously, I believe that 401 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Jesus is more than a man. I believe he's the son of God. 402 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,280 But the idea that he would take that privileged position he has 403 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,160 as God and actually take on human Fort in order to endure 404 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,280 all of that, he provided us the perfect example of courage and 405 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,600 honor and nobility. And you know what we get in our 406 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,120 churches? Nice guy Jesus, don't offend 407 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:18,800 anyone. Be tolerant. 408 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,880 The truth is offensive to those who reject it. 409 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,720 I I should be compassionate toward people, but I should 410 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:33,720 never be tolerant of evil. And so I think it's relatively 411 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,560 simple. If you're going to get up and 412 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,200 you're going to tell young men what you think they should do, 413 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:41,120 the first question you should ask yourself is have you put 414 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:44,480 yourself in a position to be the sort of person they'd even want 415 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,560 to listen to? Leadership is a responsibility. 416 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,880 It's not something you just get one day. 417 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,880 It's not something you get by virtue even of position or age. 418 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,320 You have to get it through competence and capability and 419 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,920 that is an ongoing process. It's never complete. 420 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,040 It's like sanctification. I don't think it's complete. 421 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,760 When we finally get, get to go home, you know, to, to God and 422 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,880 stand before our creator and hopefully hear well done, good 423 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,800 and faithful servant. So I, I think that there has 424 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,520 been a, a, there has been an absence on the right. 425 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:25,560 However, that's not as true as it was 10 years ago. 426 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,480 Now. There's, there's always been 427 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,880 role models that we could look up to, But it, it's this 428 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,480 combination of things and I and I, I usually, I put it into five 429 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,560 different categories. It's, it's the spiritual, the 430 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,320 intellectual, the emotional, the physical and the professional 431 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,400 that the spiritual is the most important because it provides 432 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,200 the bedrock for your entire worldview. 433 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,680 Again, it provides the standard for what is right, what is 434 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,760 wrong, what is honorable, what is not. 435 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:52,080 The intellectual is, and Jordan Peterson talks about this a lot, 436 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,400 right? It's this idea that one of the 437 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,600 most one of the most intimidating things and 438 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,880 formidable things that you can do is develop your mind in such 439 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,760 a way to not only be intelligent or articulate, but also funny, 440 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,320 to have wit, to be able to engage. 441 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,760 The emotional component has to do with being able to not hide 442 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,480 one's emotions, but to understand that emotion is an 443 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,720 invitation to thought. So you regulate them, you 444 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,640 control them in such a way to where you can be tender to the 445 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,080 people that you love and dangerous to the people that 446 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,400 would be threats to them. The physical is obvious and 447 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,560 honestly, it's one of the areas that has been missing the most 448 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:30,240 out of the right guys. Get to the gym, right, whether 449 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,480 it's lifting, whether it's learning how to fight, whatever 450 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,400 it is. I'm not saying you got to be an 451 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,440 MMA champion like Chad Robashaw, right, Who's a great example, a 452 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,960 great male role model. But you do need to be someone 453 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,600 that if you're going to say, I cannot stand it when I hear a 454 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,080 man say I would die for my family, good. 455 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,080 Would you live for them? Because they actually need that 456 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,840 from you a lot more on a day-to-day basis. 457 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,920 And when you say you would die for them, OK, great. 458 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,120 But wouldn't you rather be victorious for them? 459 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,400 Wouldn't you rather be in a position where you get in that 460 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,320 fight for your family and you win? 461 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,760 So do the things necessary to do that. 462 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,760 And because I believe men are not just protectors, but also 463 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,440 providers, yes, develop the necessary skill sets, the 464 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,000 marketable skill sets, so that you can be effective and 465 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,120 competent and capable professionally. 466 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,840 Because that's not just good for you, it's also good for your 467 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,760 family and it's also good for others. 468 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,120 Because one of the great things about a market system is the 469 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,480 only way I'm able to attain wealth is by providing somebody 470 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,160 else something that they need. And so developing those skill 471 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,600 sets across those lines are incredibly important. 472 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,240 But I'm starting to see more people like Chad Robichaud that 473 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,720 that has done that, like John Lovell from, from Warrior Poet 474 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,240 Society. I mean, just these guys are 475 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,800 stepping into this space and they have credibility because I 476 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,480 can tell you from my own, my own spiritual walk, my own Christian 477 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,120 walk. 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It's my husband, it's my dad, 529 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,560 you know, people that are just good, but they're salt of the 530 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,640 earth men that they're not online, right? 531 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,400 They're not building brands online. 532 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,120 I think that's a particular calling that is very important. 533 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,240 And so I think already there's a sort of fakeness right to I 534 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,800 think the undertake Empire, which is that he's built a brand 535 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,240 to show off wealth, to show off women, to show off strength. 536 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,600 When really when it comes down to it, you know, what is really 537 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,080 a man? Yeah, he's going to be have 538 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,400 competencies. He's going to be able to 539 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,720 provide. He's going to be strong. 540 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,480 But there's so much to, I think a, a, a man to aspire to be that 541 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,720 you're describing like it. And the first thing that you 542 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,800 mentioned is spiritual, like having that spiritual 543 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,360 foundation. I think, you know, separate from 544 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:24,560 the tape thing. I had to throw that in there 545 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,280 because that's trending on X right now. 546 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,200 And you know, it's, it's, it's, it's interesting to watch how 547 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,600 the right is handling it because I think that we can either 548 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,920 double down on standing up and putting up true men that are 549 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,080 leaders. I think you're one of those. 550 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,800 And I'm so grateful for that, Nick. 551 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,960 Or we can say, well, we're going to have to just kind of go 552 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,680 common lowest denominator here because it's better, you know, 553 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,720 there's people out there, at least they're saying some of our 554 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,360 talking points and sharing some of our ideologies, right? 555 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,720 So I'm going to look past, you know, sex trafficking and 556 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,760 pornography, God forbid, or whatever other fake things are 557 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,760 going on because there's also fake stuff going on that's not 558 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,320 even real. And I think there's an obviously 559 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,640 another way and but this isn't just happening on the right. 560 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,680 I wanted to share this clip from Mark Zuckerberg and I found this 561 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,440 so fascinating. I want to hear your take on it 562 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,040 because Mark Zuckerberg, the founder of Facebook, you know, 563 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,600 one of his, his COO was Sheryl Sandberg and she wrote that book 564 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,680 Leanin. She's this woman who, you know, 565 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,280 horribly donated like I think a couple $1,000,000 to Planned 566 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,440 Parenthood. So super Lib. 567 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,880 I liked some elements of her book because she was about like, 568 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,440 you know, being, you know, using your talents as a the woman, 569 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,640 whatever. But the part that was I think 570 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,840 really wrong was she was saying, well, women need to be 50% in 571 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,080 the boardroom. You know, women belong in the 572 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,320 workplace. And it's like not if they're not 573 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,200 built for it, not if they don't want it. 574 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,720 There's certain places that actually women I don't think 575 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,160 belong, like combat veteran, you know, combat roles. 576 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,760 All this to say, Mark Zuckerberg is now making the rounds on on 577 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,240 podcasts right now talking about how we need more masculine 578 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,480 energy in corporate America because because of DEI, women 579 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,200 have now just like taken, you know, literally over the 580 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,840 boardroom in a lot of corporate America. 581 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,080 Not totally, but there's a lot more women. 582 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,160 It's all about inclusivity to women, all of this stuff. 583 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,960 So I want to play this clip. I let me see if we can get you 584 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,920 to hear it's from Joe Rogan. Just, I think a lot of the 585 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:23,120 corporate world is, is like pretty culturally neutered and, 586 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,000 and I, I, I just think like having, you know, I, I grew up, 587 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,880 I have three sisters, no brothers. 588 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,760 I have three daughters, no sons. So I'm like surrounded by girls 589 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,880 and women like my, my whole life. 590 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,560 And there's something the, the, the kind of masculine energy I 591 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,480 think is, is good. And obviously, you know, society 592 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,440 has plenty of that, but, but I think corporate culture was 593 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,760 really like trying to get away from it. 594 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,880 I think having a culture that like celebrates the aggression a 595 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,560 bit more has its own merits that are really positive. 596 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,960 The intent on all these things I think is good. 597 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,960 But I think these things can always go a little far. 598 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,520 And I think it's one thing to say we want to be kind of like 599 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,760 welcoming and make a good environment for everyone. 600 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,160 And I think it's another to basically say that masculinity 601 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,480 is bad. And I, I just think we kind of 602 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,240 swung culturally to that part of the, the kind of the spectrum. 603 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:23,600 And I didn't really feel that until I got involved in martial 604 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,240 arts, which there are these things, there are like a few of 605 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,800 these things throughout your life where you just, you have an 606 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,680 experience and you're like, where has this been my whole 607 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,560 life? And it just like it just turned 608 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,040 on like a part of my brain that I was like, OK, yeah. 609 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,080 Like this was this was a piece of the puzzle that should have 610 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,800 been there. And I'm glad it now is. 611 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,680 It's true. It's true. 612 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,800 I getting getting back in, getting back into, for a while 613 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,440 there I was getting back into MMA training and I need to get 614 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,120 back into it again. I had to take a break just 615 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,320 because I was gone so much. I wasn't able to keep up with 616 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,000 it. But there, there's something 617 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:06,160 about the physical, physical competition that is very, very 618 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,000 important because it actually it, it, it's not only important 619 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,400 for practical reasons, it's also very important for psychological 620 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,920 reasons for, for a man. And so I, I think he's, I think 621 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,840 he's right about that. I think it's interesting too 622 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,160 that when they, I can't remember what the study was, but they 623 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,800 started giving, they, they did a study where they were giving 624 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,520 more left wing men testosterone replacement theory. 625 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,400 And the more testosterone, the higher testosterone levels went, 626 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,320 the more right wing they started to be on, on topics. 627 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,480 And, and again, I don't think that's just gimmicky. 628 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,480 I think there's actually something to that. 629 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,120 And it's, it's one of the reasons why we're investigating 630 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,240 so much now into what these various medications have done 631 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,440 and what are, what's in our food and everything else and how it's 632 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,640 impacted things. But the larger point about 633 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,240 masculinity, I will say I, I was working when I got out of the 634 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,360 military, I was working in the defense space still and one of 635 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,840 the most formidable, capable people I ever worked with. 636 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,640 Her name was Michelle was a woman who I like. 637 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,200 She scared me, but I loved working for her because she was 638 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,600 just, I, I mean, she was so good at her job. 639 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,120 And, and the point of that is to say that when he says more 640 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,200 masculine traits, we typically assignment, we, we associate 641 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,800 masculine traits with things like competitiveness, 642 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,880 aggression, physical prowess, you know, sarcasm. 643 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,760 Like there's, there's various things like that are, that are 644 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,040 generally associated with masculinity. 645 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,560 They're not exclusively masculine traits. 646 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,360 They're just predominantly manifest themselves in, in 647 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,400 masculine figures. She had those skill sets. 648 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,600 Again, she was incredibly intelligent, very witty, 649 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,600 sarcastic, like very competitive. 650 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,840 And so she flourished. And the reason why she 651 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,280 flourished is because she had the necessary attributes which 652 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,200 were relevant to the job. So it doesn't have to be 653 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,600 contained exclusively in men. But to your point, I, I know a 654 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,920 lot of women that would never been able to do that job as well 655 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,480 as Michelle. I know a lot of men that 656 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,639 wouldn't have been able to do that job as well as Michelle. 657 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,159 This is where I go back to the idea of part of what we're 658 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,880 talking about here is if the environment requires certain 659 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,199 characteristics and attributes and you are selecting people for 660 00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,360 that because of other attributes that have nothing to do with it, 661 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,320 they're going to fail and they're not going to feel good 662 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,679 about themselves and nobody else is going to feel good about that 663 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:32,520 environment. In fact, if anything else, 664 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,159 you're going to reinforce negative stereotypes. 665 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,080 See, we told you they're not capable in this particular 666 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,480 field. No, that person wasn't capable 667 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,440 in that this particular field. So no, masculinity is a positive 668 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,040 thing. And you know who believes that 669 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:52,000 more than anybody? Women, liberal women believe 670 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,760 that and here's how you know, because every time they poll 671 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,200 liberal women looking for a long term relationship with a man, 672 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,800 they always demonstrate frustration with the sort of men 673 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,840 liberal women have helped create. 674 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,600 Non aggressive right. They don't even like they're not 675 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,000 attracted to what they've created. 676 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,360 And, and, and so this, I, I think what I think what Mark is 677 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,680 talking about is that there, there is a, sometimes there's a 678 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,240 point in time where, where you, you attain such a degree of 679 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:29,920 generalized wealth and security that it allows you to ignore 680 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,440 certain realities about life, certain realities about biology, 681 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,320 certain realities about threats in this world or what's really 682 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:43,120 needed when things get bad. And so we have a tendency to use 683 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,520 certain things in order to build the sort of society that is safe 684 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,640 and prosperous and then forget the things that were necessary 685 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,000 to build it, because those, those things always they never, 686 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,000 they never lose necessity. They just become less obvious. 687 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,480 Did you know that every year 200,000 families go bankrupt 688 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,320 from medical bills? Even with health insurance? 689 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,360 For many people, insurance is simply not working for them. 690 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,600 That's why I'm excited to share with you about Crowd Health, 691 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,400 which is an alternative model for paying for your healthcare. 692 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,280 Crowd Health takes your bills personally, negotiates them on 693 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,280 your behalf, and then sends out a request to the community to 694 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,080 help cover your bills. The Crowd Health community has 695 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,520 fully funded more than 5000 medical bills over the last two 696 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,360 years. 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Mark Zuckerberg thinks companies 719 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,280 need more masculine energy. But I thought this was so crazy. 720 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,680 And it kind of goes back to what you're saying at the end. 721 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,960 She says, anyways, she says this sounds like the perfect 722 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,160 opportunity to reinstate those Meta fact checkers considering 723 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,400 men have held about 90% of CEO positions over that for over a 724 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,200 decade. ANYWAYS, sad to see a one time 725 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,280 wife guy go full manosphere. Sending our best to Priscilla. 726 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,480 Priscilla Chan Zuckerberg. This is the wife of so super 727 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,760 condescending, super like mean girl. 728 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,440 But what's so crazy to me is that they're basically because 729 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,120 Mark Zuckerberg is now into, you know, physical fitness, 730 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,640 basically having guy friends and saying masculine energy is not a 731 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,760 bad thing. All of a sudden, he's no longer 732 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,480 a wife guy and he's now part of the manosphere. 733 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,880 And by manosphere, you know what, she's kind of getting out 734 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,720 here. She's not getting out like you, 735 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:30,400 Nick, you know, or even maybe she hates Jordan Peterson too. 736 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,280 I don't know. But she's in her mind is Andrew 737 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,320 Tate. Like basically, if you like to 738 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,160 be strong, this is what's so sick about it and so sad. 739 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,720 If you like to be strong and you're, if you're in the online 740 00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:41,960 world, if you're on X, you know, if you're in this media space, 741 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,720 if you like to be strong, if you think masculine energy is a good 742 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:49,080 thing, and if you, you know, think we need more male men and 743 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,720 leaders and leadership and you're kind of against woke DEI 744 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:53,560 stuff, then all of a sudden you're a manosphere. 745 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,000 Yeah, Yeah. It's like there's no mid, 746 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,120 there's no middle way here. So, well, this has always been 747 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,320 the tactic, right? This is this is the everyone is 748 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,640 literally Hitler, right? Yes, yes. 749 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,320 It's always the engaging and hyperbole, hyperbolic rhetoric, 750 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,400 but but again, it, it, it doesn't play out even on their 751 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,640 own dating apps. So the thing I would go back to 752 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:21,840 is, is again, the it's the idea that those characteristics that 753 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,280 we associate with masculinity have positive manifestations and 754 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,600 negative manifestations. Now, if every time you have a 755 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,840 negative manifestation of of a masculine trait, let's use 756 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,640 aggression, you have somebody that's an aggressive guy that 757 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:40,960 then uses that to exploits a woman or steal something or 758 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,760 intimidate somebody weaker than them for their own personal 759 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,000 gain. Of course, those are negative 760 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,800 manifestations of the trade of aggression. 761 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,840 But if you didn't say aggression is the problem, well then OK, 762 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,600 Riddle me this. What are you going to use to 763 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,480 stop the guy engaging in aggression? 764 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,760 An emasculated man. No you you send him to DEI 765 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,920 training. Yeah, you just and this is the 766 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,440 Part 2 where the. Guy is chasing you with a gun, 767 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,640 you just say hey, that's not very nice, it's not inclusive, 768 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,960 please go and put the gun down. Well, even when they say things 769 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,240 like, you know, 90% of whatever corporate boards or 90% of CEO 770 00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:19,880 positions, OK, now go to the HR department. 771 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,360 What is that comprised of? Now go to the people that are 772 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,440 setting policy. Now go to the people that are, 773 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,280 are this idea that if you have a male CEO, therefore you have a 774 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,840 masculine CEO is not true. The idea that you might have a 775 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,680 male, you know, more male members on the board means that 776 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,080 you have a masculine board is not true, especially not in the 777 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,000 society where you've emasculated a lot of people or what they do 778 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,280 is in their, in their private life, they may be more 779 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,640 masculine, but in their public or corporate life, they decided 780 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,600 that it's a liability to be masculine. 781 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,480 And So what do they do? They just, they just try to stay 782 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,600 on the fence. Don't make anybody mad, say 783 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,800 whatever, repeat whatever lines have to be repeated. 784 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,440 And the end result is, is everybody suffers eventually as 785 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,360 a result of it. And so I know, I think 786 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,400 Zuckerberg is, is correct. We, we do need more masculine 787 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,760 energy and we need more men that want to not only be leaders, but 788 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,320 actually possess the appropriate attributes and the appropriate 789 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,560 character. Now, I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw 790 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,160 something out there that probably sounds kind of weird, 791 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,320 but it is potentially a good indicator. 792 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,160 Go for it. OK, so I don't know, are you 793 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,880 familiar at all? Like, I'm gonna, you're probably 794 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,160 gonna be like, wow, this guy's a nerd. 795 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,800 Are you familiar with like Warhammer 40K or anything like 796 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:43,960 that? No. 797 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,600 OK, so it's. This tell me about it. 798 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:49,840 It's this kind of like war tabletop war game that you play, 799 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,920 right? And they came out with a video 800 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,120 game called Space Marines, which is kind of based on the lore of 801 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,480 and all that. Henry Cavill's a big fan of it. 802 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,280 And, and I don't, I don't play it like I don't have it, but my, 803 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,760 my son started to play the video game because he liked it. 804 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,480 And he's going off to the army next month. 805 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,720 And so we started talking about it. 806 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:11,400 He was kind of talking to Laura of it or whatnot. 807 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,760 And then all of a sudden in my Instagram feed, I'm getting more 808 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,240 and more of these these things coming up. 809 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,320 And it's these, it's these like memes of these videos. 810 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,880 And it's usually something from that video game or something 811 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:32,800 similar or, or, and it's always a man or a group of men making a 812 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,600 last stand. And and the meme always says 813 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,360 like. Like a, like a, like an Alamo, 814 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,840 like yeah, yeah. And the, and the meme always 815 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,560 says women, I want to go quietly in my sleep surrounded by the 816 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,480 people I love. And then it goes men. 817 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,120 And it shows the video of the last stand holding the flag, 818 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,560 fighting off, you know, the, the, the hordes of, you know, 819 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,040 whatever it is coming to get you. 820 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,720 Or it's the, it's, there's another one of a guy where it's 821 00:42:59,720 --> 00:43:02,200 this helicopter in the middle of fire and they picked up a bunch 822 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,400 of kids and the helicopter doesn't have enough, too much 823 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,640 weight. He can't lift off. 824 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,840 And, and the, and the guy on there in the back with the kids 825 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,760 is like, all right, everyone take off your shoes, throw the 826 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,440 shoes. OK, dump as much fuel. 827 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,040 And then finally the helicopter start starts to lift off with 828 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:22,120 the kids and they look out the window and the guy got off, you 829 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,080 know, and he's, he's, he's going to die, right? 830 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:30,400 But he's, but he saved the kids. That is noble, right? 831 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,720 And, and obviously, you know, I don't, I don't want, I don't, I 832 00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:37,880 certainly don't want my son to, to die in a valiant last stand 833 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,240 or whatnot. But there is something there 834 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,400 about. It's protect. 835 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,720 It's like. It's oriented or it's not. 836 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,400 It's the difference. It's the difference between I 837 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,040 want to be capable because I want the Bugatti and the women 838 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,440 versus I want to be capable because I want to be able to be 839 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,520 there for the people I love in the moment they need me the 840 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:06,720 most. And there's something to that if 841 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,360 we can direct it in the way it needs to go. 842 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,800 I love that. Well, the Bugatti and the woman, 843 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,120 like for most people, I think your average person, it's our 844 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,600 yeah, it would be cool to have, you know, a super fancy car and 845 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,320 like you can unfortunately, in the in the world of only fans, 846 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,400 pornography, prostitution, like those that's cheap. 847 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,560 You know, sex is so cheap today. It's like one of the cheapest 848 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,160 things. Like the thing that is one of 849 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,680 the most sacred things in the world has become the cheapest. 850 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,280 But the measure of a man, it's like, what does he do? 851 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,480 He treats things with the respect and the the gravity that 852 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,000 they deserve. He's willing to, you know, 853 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,360 protect the weak, is willing to see sex as, as something sacred 854 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,560 and be willing to and able to commit to one woman and be able 855 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,320 to provide for her and build a life with her. 856 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,200 I mean, that's the model of masculinity that, you know, I 857 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,000 was blessed to grow up with. And it's kind of a no brainer, I 858 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,080 feel to me. But again, when so many people 859 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,920 are hurting out there and there's so much confusion, 860 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,440 they're drawn to these more radical figures online. 861 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,120 All right. I, one of the things that you 862 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,400 said earlier, Nick, that I want you to share more about because 863 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,280 I think it's really important was about the importance of, you 864 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,720 know, talked about masculine masculinity, men having 865 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,840 spiritual, emotional, intellectual, physical strength. 866 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,200 And then you also said professional. 867 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,360 And I think that's one thing that obviously Zuckerberg, I 868 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,040 think is putting out a token here of like saying, hey, we 869 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,560 want men in the workplace like we, we, we want you. 870 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,840 We want your competitiveness, we want your aggressiveness, we 871 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,480 want your sharpness. It's a good thing and you're 872 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,160 welcome, right, Right. There's been a reverse of that 873 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,920 over the last, I would say decade plus where it's like 874 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,960 women are being encouraged to be the be the ones to go into 875 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,520 business in law school and some of these professions. 876 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,200 Women are being encouraged to graduate college. 877 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,120 Women are being encouraged to get some of these jobs. 878 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,040 And that's not to say women can't do those jobs. 879 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,040 And again, I think you can have a very, you know, a man who's 880 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,920 totally masculine, who the way that he's masculine is not going 881 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,720 to look the same way as the next guy, right? 882 00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:59,360 Just because you're like shorter or you have a different body 883 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,520 type or you have different talents or skills, does it make 884 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,440 you less of a man? I think that's important because 885 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,160 we have these stereotypes about masculinity. 886 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,560 But all that being said, I do think one of the challenges a 887 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,120 lot of young men face is that it is hard today to find a career, 888 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,360 to build up professional competency, to be in the 889 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,120 position to even support a family because of the way the 890 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,680 economy has changed, because of the really the advent of women, 891 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,720 you know, taking over so much of the workforce. 892 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:26,760 I'm not saying it's that there's a lack of opportunities. 893 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,360 I think that's just part of also the way the economy is changing. 894 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,840 But you could, you know, we could have a whole discussion 895 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,000 about that. But what would be your advice? 896 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,920 What's your take on that? And then what's your advice for 897 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,440 men, especially younger men, to develop their competencies so 898 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,000 that they can be professionally strong and be able to not just 899 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,560 survive in this world, but thrive and if they feel called 900 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,240 to have a family and lead a family? 901 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,320 Yeah, I think, well, again, going back to the spiritual 902 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,040 thing, I think that's really important because what what the 903 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,920 spiritual component of this does is not just provide motivation, 904 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,840 it provides discipline. It's not just about doing 905 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,800 something because you want it, it's about doing something 906 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,680 because it's necessary. And it's a very, very different 907 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,840 mindset because if you're just doing something because you want 908 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,760 it, well, then the moment you don't want it or the moment 909 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,800 you've done the cost benefit analysis and well, it's not 910 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,680 really worth it, then you stop. And there's no moral implication 911 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,800 to that. But the moment you actually have 912 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,960 a sense of right and wrong and necessity, discipline is able to 913 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,360 take over when motivation fails. And that's really important. 914 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,120 The other thing is, is that for, for the men that do want to get 915 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,520 married, which I think is the vast majority of men, I, I think 916 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,240 it's about look at this sort of characteristics and attributes 917 00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:36,640 that you would want in a wife. And then ask yourself, am I the 918 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,040 sort of person that would attract that? 919 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,400 Because just like, and, and I will say this too, for, for 920 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,480 young women, there's been a great deal of emphasis on what 921 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,680 women need from a man. There hasn't been much emphasis 922 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,600 on what men need from women. And we have, we have needs, 923 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,560 wants and desires as well. And those needs, wants and 924 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,440 desires are not bad simply because they're a little bit 925 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,560 different than what women want sometimes or what they or what 926 00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,760 we prioritize. But men should be focused on how 927 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,800 do I become attracted to the sort of woman that I want to 928 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,360 marry and build a family with? And one of those things is 929 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,840 providing. And so I think when it comes to 930 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,040 developing necessary skill sets, one of the things we always told 931 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,080 our children was dreams are good, but they don't feed you, 932 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,320 right? Or they don't necessarily feed 933 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,080 you is the better way to put it. So we're not telling you to give 934 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,680 up on your dreams, but you need to develop marketable skill set. 935 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,320 You then you need to find a dream that feeds you or you need 936 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,720 to find an occupation that allows you to, to pursue your 937 00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:35,400 dream because nobody else is responsible for your well-being. 938 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,200 That's just the reality. We, we have a lot of, I think we 939 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,760 have a lot of people now that, that feel as if they are 940 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,520 entitled to their dreams. You are entitled to pursue 941 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,720 happiness. Nobody is required to, to give 942 00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:50,360 it to you. And, and if you go into it with 943 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,320 that mindset, that, look, this is, if it's my dream that it's 944 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,480 mine to accomplish. And there may be people that 945 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,280 help me along the way. In fact, there most probably 946 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,840 will be. And you should treat those 947 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,640 people with respect and admiration and use them to be 948 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,960 able to provide the same for other people that are coming 949 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,520 after you. But it's your responsibility. 950 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,720 And that's not that's not just a burden, it's a privilege. 951 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,040 It is a privilege to be able to live in a society where you can 952 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,880 have options to make your own way. 953 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,000 And if you want to look at what it, what constitutes A 954 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,440 marketable skill set, it's very easy supply and demand, right? 955 00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:28,960 In those fields for which there is low supply and high demand, 956 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,920 that is a highly marketable skill set. 957 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,560 And so you need to look at that part practically, what are the 958 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,680 things that I, I have natural talents and inclinations toward 959 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,800 and then what it within the professional space, the ability 960 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,320 to meet the demand, what sort of skills that I have to develop in 961 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,760 order to be competitive in that environment. 962 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,280 The other thing too, that I would tell young man is that I 963 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,320 don't think there's ever been a better time in many respects to 964 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,360 be entrepreneurial. I don't think everyone is 965 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,480 necessarily, you know, inclined to own a business, right? 966 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,600 We need, we need good technicians or good artisans 967 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,760 that want to be at the top of their craft but don't want to 968 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,960 manage payroll. Like, you know, I get that, but 969 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,960 don't ever forget that, you know, that that skill set that 970 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,720 you might develop is not just so that you can perform that 971 00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:22,200 particular task, but that's so one day you might be able to 972 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,080 provide other people an opportunity to provide that same 973 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,920 task, while at the same time that you're expanding your, your 974 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,560 own professional competence capability and developing 975 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,560 expanding opportunities for yourself and at the same time 976 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,400 expanding them for other people as well. 977 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,560 And, and I think we need to once again look at the, the enormous 978 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,960 practical and moral benefits from the free market, right from 979 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,240 recognizing that being able to find your place in an 980 00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:53,680 environment where you can provide the best of your skills 981 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,640 in exchange for the best of other people's skills is a, is a 982 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,280 noble thing. It's a good thing. 983 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,760 I heard someone say the other day that, you know, you know, 984 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,160 out of, out of the 33 years that that Jesus had on earth, he 985 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,520 actually spent more time in carpentry than he did in 986 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,360 evangelism. So I, I think finding skill sets 987 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,000 that you, that you enjoy and develop in them is very 988 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,800 important. The other thing that I would say 989 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:25,680 is the practical side of that as well is that, you know, my, the, 990 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,680 the number of jobs that you go into and you stay with the same 991 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,200 company for 30 years, it is diminishing significantly. 992 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,480 And I, I think to some degree we have still raised a generation 993 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,800 to believe that, well, that was the ideal. 994 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,800 And it's like, well, no, it maybe it was for some people, or 995 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,800 maybe it was for a particular time, but we are more and more 996 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,200 going into an environment where it is highly likely that you 997 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,280 will change. You may change careers two or 998 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,080 three times. And, and instead of dreading 999 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,920 that, or instead of creating this false expectation in your 1000 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,160 mind that you're going to do the same thing for 30 years, embrace 1001 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,280 the excitement and the adventure associated with developing 1002 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,040 multiple skill sets, looking for opportunities, and then having 1003 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,600 the capacity and the wisdom to seize them when they present 1004 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,720 themselves. And so that, that would be the 1005 00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:17,600 advice. I would never stop learning, 1006 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,720 never stop developing new capabilities. 1007 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,760 Unfortunately, our public school system is is not very good at 1008 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,200 fostering that kind of entrepreneurial mindset. 1009 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,000 I think in some respects it's trying to be better, but it's a 1010 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,640 government run institution, so don't be shocked when it doesn't 1011 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,600 produce great results. But I do think there's a lot of 1012 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,800 other opportunities out there. You know, we talked a lot about 1013 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,720 the dangers of the Internet and appropriately so, but there's 1014 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:41,640 also opportunities within the Internet. 1015 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,080 It's never been easier to learn new skill sets. 1016 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,440 It's never been easier to find networks of people that, that 1017 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,440 share your, your convictions and, and your worldview and, and 1018 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,480 to develop the sort of communities where you can't work 1019 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,560 together. And so that's, that's what I 1020 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,640 would encourage people to do. And look, you can start small. 1021 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,960 Not every skill set you have to develop is something that you 1022 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,280 have to have completed by the time you're 24. 1023 00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:08,120 Not every skill set that you're trying to develop has to be the 1024 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,360 one that is going to be your primary, that is going to 1025 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,000 provide your primary earning potential, right? 1026 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,440 I didn't learn how to grow and raise my own food until I was 1027 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,400 really in my late 30s and 40s. And it's still not a primary 1028 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,640 story. It's not any source of my 1029 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,080 income. I probably spend more money on 1030 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,360 it than I do at this point. But I'll tell you this much. 1031 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,560 I don't got to worry if the grocery stores get shut down 1032 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,880 again. I know what to do and just 1033 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,640 knowing how to do it and knowing the network of people, because 1034 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,160 in order to learn how to do it, I had to find this network of 1035 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,680 people gives you an incredible sense of both capability, but 1036 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,520 also community. And so that's, that's what I 1037 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,520 would tell young men to do is, is be constantly looking to 1038 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,760 develop skill sets. Some of them are going to be 1039 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,440 major, some of them are going to be minor. 1040 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,680 But the more capable you become, the more and the more skills you 1041 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,800 develop, the more able you are going to be to seize 1042 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,720 opportunities when they present themselves. 1043 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:05,200 And then never ever doubt the impact of effective 1044 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,000 communication. If you were the sort of person 1045 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,560 that can think critically and simply articulate what you're 1046 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:18,200 thinking and what you are trying to do, that in and of itself is 1047 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,720 a marketable skill set. You can you combine that with 1048 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,640 work ethic? Are are you willing to, are you 1049 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:31,080 willing to get there on time, do the work and and not quit the 1050 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,280 moment things get difficult? Oh my gosh, you're like a golden 1051 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,960 employee at this point. It's so true. 1052 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,680 I mean, I think even just in my experience hiring people, 1053 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,880 whether it's for GTB who runs the show, the media company, for 1054 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,320 live action, for other projects or collaborations. 1055 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,360 It's so hard to find people that are willing to put their heads 1056 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,360 down and work hard, who are willing to develop the skills 1057 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,480 and the talents they need, who are willing to be reliable. 1058 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,520 I mean, it's just, but there's so much opportunity out there 1059 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,400 for people who are willing to put in the virtue to develop. 1060 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,600 I mean, really it's it's a virtue. 1061 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,040 It's a developing of a virtue. I want to ask you one more thing 1062 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,960 about this whole, you know, the ongoing debate about masculinity 1063 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,720 and that's having to do with sexual integrity, because I 1064 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,800 think this is something that there's so much confusion about. 1065 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,440 I mean, the post sexual revolution people are confused 1066 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,920 about because we were told, you know, feminism, all of this. 1067 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,200 Women can do whatever they want with their bodies. 1068 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,160 Sex is totally recreational as long as there's consent. 1069 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,520 Men, you know, if as long as there's consent, it's really 1070 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,240 whatever you want to do. But don't be gross. 1071 00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:39,440 Like, I mean, there's kind of so many mixed messages. 1072 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,000 And now if we see today, it's like, what is sex? 1073 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,320 Well, there's gender identity. Now. 1074 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,640 Are you even a man or a woman based on your biology? 1075 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,000 No, I mean, there's complete chaos, right? 1076 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,000 And I think one of the things that I'm seeing more of on both 1077 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,160 the left and the right, which is not a surprise because you see 1078 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,360 these extremes on both sides. But is this total decay of what 1079 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,560 is sex for? Like a, a, a rejection of what 1080 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,600 is sex for? And, but how do we present this 1081 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,680 especially to a younger generation, especially of men, 1082 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:13,040 women too, but especially of men who are so inundated with porn, 1083 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,840 They're so inundated with these false view of what woman is. 1084 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,600 And they're being told by some of these kind of very loudmouth, 1085 00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:23,920 you know, online personalities that but the measure of their 1086 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,040 manhood is basically how many women they can sleep, literally 1087 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,200 they can sleep with, and their power to have whatever woman 1088 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:35,240 they want sexually. So I got married at 19 and I'm 1089 00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:37,680 very proud to say I've been with one woman my entire life. 1090 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,360 That's it. And I wouldn't want it any other 1091 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,840 way. In fact, when I when I hear guys 1092 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,880 talk about casual sex, I'm like, what a crappy way to describe 1093 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,880 sex. I have no idea what casual sex 1094 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,280 is like. I only know what it's like to 1095 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,280 have sex with a woman that I love, admire and like, 1096 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,400 incredibly attracted to and want to be with And oh, by the way, 1097 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,000 wants, desires the same of me. So you're right, I have no idea 1098 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,680 what casual sex is, but it sounds horrible. 1099 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,720 It's, it's the, I mean, if we wanted to use an easy analogy, 1100 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,600 it's, it's and filling yourself with, with fast food or, or junk 1101 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,400 as opposed to actually having the real genuine article. 1102 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:26,600 I don't just advocate for the sort of of sexual purity of 1103 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,920 waiting until you're married and then and then being and then, 1104 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,200 and then that purity goes beyond marriage because the marriage 1105 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,200 bed is not defiled, right? That's scriptural. 1106 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,640 But it's the idea that if you, if you're filling your head full 1107 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,560 of things that are supposed to be reserved for your spouse, and 1108 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,080 this goes for men and women that are supposed to be reserved for 1109 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,000 your spouse, then you're robbing yourself of something. 1110 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,480 You're not just doing something that is wrong. 1111 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:54,640 It is wrong, But part of the reason why it's wrong is because 1112 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,400 of the damage it does and because it robs you of something 1113 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,400 that is better. And so I think part of this is 1114 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,280 getting people to understand that when Christians say, or 1115 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:09,680 when people advocating for this sort of approach to sex say 1116 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,840 don't do this. We're not just doing it because 1117 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:17,160 we're married to some sort of, you know, arcane or puritanical 1118 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,680 approach. We're we're basically saying 1119 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,400 like, I mean, that's it. How do I put this? 1120 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,520 It's like, you have no idea how good this is going to be if you 1121 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,120 just do it right. But the more, the more ways you 1122 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,720 cheapen it or make it perverse, you're going to make it more 1123 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,120 difficult to get the thing you really want. 1124 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,960 And so it's like anything else, it's delayed gratification. 1125 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,840 When we talk about delayed gratification with respect to 1126 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,560 the economic world of the professional world, everyone 1127 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,040 understands what it means and it makes perfect sense. 1128 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,160 And we, when we talked about in finance or saving a retirement, 1129 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,960 it's like, Hey, look, if you can just, if you can just take this 1130 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,800 little bit of money and you can put it away in a, in a 1131 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,240 portfolio. I mean, the difference when you 1132 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,480 hit 60 is going to be millions upon millions of dollars. 1133 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,200 I'm not even asking you to wait 40 years. 1134 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,120 I'm asking delayed gratification until you find the woman you 1135 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,480 want to marry or the man you want to marry. 1136 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:24,520 And then doing that and then you get the next 60 years, right? 1137 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,560 Like you get that. And I had a I'll put it this 1138 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,760 way, I was an Army special forces. 1139 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:37,400 Army special forces is generally comprised of guys that are 1140 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:42,920 reasonably fit, pretty confident and fairly confident in who they 1141 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,400 are, right. You ask women what they like in 1142 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:51,200 men, competent, fit and come and capable or confident. 1143 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,600 OK, so you're going into and then take those same group of 1144 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,240 guys and now put them in a foreign country. 1145 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,560 We're not only. You know, would they be already 1146 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,320 desirable? But now you're also the 1147 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,200 opportunity to marry an American, right. 1148 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,960 And I'm just being real here with the with the reality of 1149 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,080 this. You had a lot of guys that were 1150 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,760 able to pretty much do whatever they wanted with whoever they 1151 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:19,200 wanted. And, and I remember sometimes 1152 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,600 getting getting teased about this idea that, you know, well 1153 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:27,560 mix only you know, it, it, it was the jokes of again, we're, 1154 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,760 we're the, we're the inexperienced ones, right? 1155 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,440 Like me and my wife, we're the inexperienced ones. 1156 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,080 We just don't know. We just don't understand. 1157 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:39,480 And isn't that kind of quaint? And I remember a buddy was, was 1158 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,080 and he wasn't being, he wasn't being vicious about it, right? 1159 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,400 He was just teasing me. He was just guy talk, what we 1160 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,640 would call locker room talk. And I finally looked at him and 1161 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:53,160 I said, dude, you got a GED and a bunch of girls that don't care 1162 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,200 about you and you don't care about, I've got a PhD in this 1163 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,800 field with one woman that I am passionate about. 1164 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,520 Who do you honestly think is having a better time? 1165 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,320 And he's like, all right, that's actually a good way to put it. 1166 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,720 Yeah, and who's also the person you're entrusting your children 1167 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,800 to? When many times children 1168 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,600 inevitably are brought into the world, it's like, what do you do 1169 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:16,120 then? What is your? 1170 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,120 Offspring and that's all true, right? 1171 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,560 And that's all part of the larger responsibility of this. 1172 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,440 But if I can, the reason why I'm the reason why I'm focusing a 1173 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:28,320 little bit more on this side of this that is not as associated 1174 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,920 with the practical considerations with it. 1175 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:36,000 But the part that is that is pleasurable, that is fun, that 1176 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,320 is intimate. It's because I'm looking it's 1177 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,360 it's I'm not just doing this because this is the best way to 1178 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,800 raise kids. And it is I'm not just doing 1179 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,680 this because this is the safest and most responsible way to do 1180 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,240 it to avoid things like STD's or I think because it is. 1181 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,720 I'm not just doing it because it's the way to avoid 1182 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,720 potentially people coming back, you know, at, at a confirmation 1183 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,160 hearing and being like, did you do this? 1184 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,760 Did you do that? Because it is. 1185 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:09,320 I'm also doing it because God created this to be a wonderful 1186 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:14,640 expression of physical love and beauty between a man and a wife. 1187 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:19,000 Why would you want to diminish it with something so much less 1188 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,760 than that? And, and when we don't talk 1189 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:28,440 about that side of it, not in a, not in a graphic or, or, you 1190 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,640 know, inappropriate way, but just in a very sincere, like, 1191 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,360 no, please understand, it's so much better when you allow for 1192 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,640 this. And then you get that additional 1193 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:45,800 benefit of the that that communion producing a child from 1194 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:50,120 both of you, because a child is a child is always a wonderful 1195 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,520 thing. But if you, if you ever want to 1196 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,480 avoid this kind of like inappropriate mindset of, Oh my 1197 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,880 gosh, this is a burden. We'll then create one with the 1198 01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,480 woman you love, create one with the man that you respect and 1199 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,920 admire. And then when you see that child 1200 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,520 and you see your spouse in that child, Oh my gosh, man, when one 1201 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,560 of my kids does something wrong, like, oh, that's team. 1202 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,440 That's the best, right? It's just like, so, so all of 1203 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,280 it, all of it is so much better. Don't, don't throw it away. 1204 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:28,000 By the same token, if you've already made those bad 1205 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:33,040 decisions, one of the most wonderful things about the 1206 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:39,240 gospel is this idea of the never ending capacity for redemption 1207 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:45,520 and reconciliation. But the bottom line is there are 1208 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,120 practical consequences in this world. 1209 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,280 And the the closer you can get to just following that, that 1210 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,760 guideline, following those principles, the more likely you 1211 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,480 are to have all of those things that God meant for that 1212 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,920 relationship, the emotional, the intellectual connection, the 1213 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,840 physical connection, all of it. And so I, I do, I do want, and I 1214 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,880 do think we're, it's incumbent about those of us who have 1215 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:14,080 chosen that path to, to highly recommend it, right? 1216 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,920 Not just for the practical reasons, but also for for all 1217 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,600 the other reasons. Well, I love what you and Tina 1218 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,360 do. I mean, even Co hosting a show 1219 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,880 and you know, doing the work together and being that example, 1220 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,520 I think it's really inspiring for a lot of people. 1221 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,280 And it's it's important because I know it takes work to put 1222 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,920 yourself out there when you've got your day job, you've got 1223 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,520 multiple day jobs, and then you're making the work to put 1224 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,000 yourself, you know, be available to people on social media that 1225 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,800 takes that's like a job. You know, that's that's 1226 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,760 important work. But you're presenting a vision 1227 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,200 of masculinity that is rooted in Jesus Christ, the ultimate man, 1228 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,760 man and God, but is also, you know, loving his family, serving 1229 01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,760 his family, serving his country. And I think that is the vision 1230 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,440 that young men need. And so thank you. 1231 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:03,240 Thank you for doing it, Nick, and thank you for your service 1232 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,440 in more ways than one. It I think it's helping a lot of 1233 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,560 people. Well, I, I mean, I want to, I 1234 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,200 want to thank you, Lila and really the entire live action 1235 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,280 team. You guys have done it. 1236 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,880 You guys have done an incredible job, not just defending life, 1237 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,120 but I think defending a life in the way that needs to be 1238 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,720 defended, which is defending the entire family structure, 1239 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,600 defending the entire world view. Because if you're not defending 1240 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,520 a society that welcomes life, then you're not winning this 1241 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,080 just by hopefully getting some legislation passed. 1242 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,400 And I was especially thankful for live action. 1243 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,280 I was especially thankful for live action on that floor debate 1244 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,000 because as I was sitting there and I was, I was going over in 1245 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,320 my head like what is the best way that I can try to articulate 1246 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,720 to the audience that I know that is going to watch this, whether 1247 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,600 it's on that floor debate or in social media. 1248 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,960 When I published that speech later, and I've already got it 1249 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:59,680 up on Facebook, but the place I went for not just the resources, 1250 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:05,760 but the stories which articulate the data, it was live action. 1251 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:11,840 And so, and so I, I read, I read off, I read off a story shared 1252 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,760 by one of the people that, that you guys put a program for and 1253 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,200 gave a platform to. And if I hadn't have had that I, 1254 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,840 I can tell you right now, it, it, it wouldn't have been, it 1255 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,200 wouldn't have been as impactful as I, I think it was. 1256 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,840 And I, and I hope it will continue to be. 1257 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,320 So please never doubt the, the work that you're doing both on a 1258 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,520 cultural level, but also on, on a, on the political level as 1259 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,640 well. It's it is very much 1260 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,400 appreciated. I'm so glad to hear that. 1261 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,240 Thank you so much Nick, you're amazing. 1262 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,480 Where can people find you online? 1263 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,800 Well, we try to make it easy if you just go to. 1264 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,000 It is easy, Nick. J Freitas Yeah, Nick, J Freitas 1265 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,640 is, is pretty much what we use for our YouTube, our Twitter, 1266 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,160 all of our social media. And then we also have a couple 1267 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,560 of shows that we do. We do one called Making the 1268 01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,480 Argument. That's when you mentioned before 1269 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,720 with my Co host Tina, who's my wife and then Christian Heinz. 1270 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,240 We have another show we call the Y Minutes and I think we're 1271 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,160 actually going to be launching another one here pretty soon as 1272 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:11,400 well, kind of focusing on the work that's been going on with 1273 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,760 Doge. So Nick Jay Freitas is the best 1274 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,320 way to find it. Love it. 1275 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,320 Thank you so much, Nick. Thanks for making the time today 1276 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:18,160 great to. See you a. 1277 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:23,720 Huge thank you to our partner. EWTNEWTN is the largest 1278 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,640 religious network reaching millions of people with the 1279 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,400 truth of the faith, entertainment and news. 1280 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,920 Check them out at ewtn.com.