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All right, we're doing something
new on the podcast. 

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We're going to do a series of 
videos on dating, dating 

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etiquette, how to deal with 
tough things in dating. 

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It's kind of chaos out there. 
I hear a lot of Gen. 

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Z ers complain that dating today
is harder than it has been for 

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millennials or Gen. 
Xers are certainly boomers, that

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they have the worst of it. 
And I think from the stories 

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that I hear, I think that you're
right, my Gen. 

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Z friends, I'm a millennial. 
Dating was rough for me too. 

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I dated all through my 20s and 
in my late teens. 

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So have my stories, I have my 
experiences to share, but the 

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reality is a lot of people I 
think are interested in open for

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looking for love and struggling 
to find it. 

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So welcome to the dating master 
class we're going to talk about 

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today. 
Start with one of the hottest 

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topics in dating. 
Yes, you guessed it, breakups. 

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Who hasn't experienced A 

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breakup? 
OK, my producer here, Franco has

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not experienced A breakup. 
Many people have. 

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And you know what? 
There's blessings and breakups. 

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There's actually a lot of 
blessings and breakups. 

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So we're going to talk about 
today how to break up a little 

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bit, how to know that you need 
to break up and a lot how to do 

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the breakup because I'm of the 
opinion very strongly that how 

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you break up and how you are 
broken up with can make a huge 

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impact on you and on even your 
future relationships. 

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Now, you're not doomed to 
anything. 

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Even if you experienced the 
worst breakup ever, the person 

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you broke up with was completely
cruel to you. 

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It was such a confusing and 
chaotic relationship and then 

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they broke up with you in this 
completely unkind way. 

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That doesn't mean you're broken 
and that you can't go on and 

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have a wonderful, amazing future
and have find, find and marry 

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the love of your life. 
So no, no one is doomed to 

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anything. 
Or maybe you made a mistake and 

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you were a total jerk and how 
you broke up with someone. 

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That doesn't mean you're doomed 
in the future. 

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The point of this episode is 
what do we do? 

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How do we do this? 
And we're going to look at some 

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famous scenes in movies to learn
what not to do primarily. 

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Also, what to do. 
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examples, some good food for 
thought. 

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I'm going to share some personal
experiences. 

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It's going to hopefully be more 
than anything helpful. 

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All right, so first of all, 
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OG podcast episode was on 
principles for dating, core 

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principles for dating. 
And it was, I think it's to this

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day still the most popular or 
one of the very most popular of 

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all the podcast episodes I've 
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I think strongly believe that 
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ultimately to discern, is this 
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And if they want to marry you, 
you want to marry them. 

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You've done some of the basic 
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wonderful, get married. 
It's going to be amazing. 

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This doesn't mean that dating 
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Dating isn't, yes, about 
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someone and really getting to 
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having this agenda for them. 
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it than a friendship, right? 
You're seeing, is this somebody 

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I want to spend the rest of my 
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family with and have kids with, 
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Another important context here. 
All the advice I think I'm going

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to give or most of it, and that 
we're going to like journey 

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together on. 
Especially like looking at the 

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clips and everything else. 
It doesn't apply to you if 

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you're in a really abusive 
situation, in that situation, go

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to someone that you know, that 
you trust, that has wisdom. 

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If you need help with boundaries
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dealing with how to get out of 
that harmful situation and get 

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yourself to emotional and 
physical safety. 

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OK, All right, another sort of 
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I also believe that if you have 
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long time, let's say at least a 
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4:00, and you're still not sure 
that you want to marry them. 

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Do them the favor of lovingly 
letting them go. 

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Do yourself a favor. 
Do them a favor. 

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If you can't fully commit, if 
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And it has been a significant 
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know each other, gotten to know 
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spent that time. 
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you're not some teenager. 
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30s. 
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Let them go or let yourself go. 
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break up? 
We're going to start with a 

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scene of what not to do from a 
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and some have not. 
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have not seen this entire movie.
I have read the Wikipedia and I 

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have watched this clip. 
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It's about a drummer. 
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And what's going to happen? 
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breakup and you can tell me 
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a good breakup. 
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Don't think that we should be 
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And I've thought about a little 
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happen, OK? 
I'm going to keep pursuing what 

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I'm pursuing. 
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I do want to give him kudos that
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I don't see us together. 
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That's actually one of the first
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like, you've got to be direct. 
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somebody, don't hedge around, 
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bushes, don't hedge it and be 
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but I think maybe we need to 
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Like be direct if you're ready 
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us being together. 
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that way. 
I don't feel that connection. 

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I don't feel like we're meant to
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I'm not interested and make it 
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they're in a semi private, like 
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I'm going to get to that. 
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location is fairly neutral. 
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But it doesn't seem like an 
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restaurant or coffee shop. 
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going to take up more and more 
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thinking about drumming, I'm 
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making my charts and all that. 
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going to start to resent me and 
you're going to tell me to ease 

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up on the drumming, spend more 
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feeling important and I'm not 
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asking me to stop drumming. 
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explaining himself a lot. 
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explain this much, but let's see
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I mean, it it it, it looks like 
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little bit because he's a he's 
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things that he's not happy about
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And so instead of it being like,
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don't see a future with you. 
It's like you are not doing 

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these things for me, right? 
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gets into beating somebody when 
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them with leaving them with love
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So let's see where this goes. 
And we're just going to start to

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hate each other and it's going 
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ugly. 
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rather just, you know, break it 
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Not too bad, I mean could have 
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OK. 
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That's a little weird. 
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it's true because for him to be 
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relationship because he needs to
practice on his little drums, 

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you know, for 50 hours a week 
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can't be in a relationship. 
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it's her fault. 
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that he needs to be so 
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work that he doesn't have space 
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And if that's the case, which is
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anyone. 
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should just be honest and say 
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like she is holding him back 
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And when I did see you, you 
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some girl who doesn't know what 
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and you're going to be great and
I'm going to be forgotten and 

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therefore you won't be able to 
give me the time of day because 

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you have bigger things to 
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That's exactly my .0. 
My gosh, OK, so even if he 

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thought that, and yes, it's 
possible to think poorly of 

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someone that you've dated. 
I'm not recommending that, but 

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it's possible. 
You don't tell them, you don't 

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say that to them. 
So, so mean, I just want to 

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applaud the girl in the clip 
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her value. 
She's not groveling at his feet.

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She's not, you know, convincing 
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He just dissed her. 
He just put her down really 

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significantly. 
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She has a sense of herself worth

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and anybody in any relationship,
I hope that you have a sense of 

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yourself worth. 
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need to break up with somebody, 
you should start. 

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I would say #1 principle is 
don't delay, you know, get make 

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the make it happen. 
So don't wait around until, OK, 

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I'm going to wait till after 
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to wait until after the wedding 
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together or I'm going to wait 
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If you are already convinced. 
This is not someone I want to be

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with. 
OK, then you need to just call 

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it and be honest with them and 
set them free. 

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It's not kind or loving or fair,
in my opinion, to just continue 

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to date them. 
In addition, if this is someone 

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that is not long distance and 
there's someone that you're 

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dating in person, you know, 
that's not like a long distance 

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relationship. 
I think it's an in person 

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conversation. 
So it's good in this clip that 

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they did that. 
But obviously how we did it was 

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wrong. 
But it's good to sit down like a

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park or, you know, a coffee shop
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neutral, public, semi public 
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You know, don't do it at your 
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You know, I would avoid things 
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I would do in a neutral place, 
third party place. 

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And you know, then we're going 
to talk what comes next, like 

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how to do this. 
But don't make them. 

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If you're in a long distance 
relationship, I do not recommend

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flying across the country to 
break up with them or making 

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them fly across the country to 
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That can be a phone call that 
does not need to be an in 

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person. 
And again, if there's abuse in 

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the relationship, do you don't 
need any phone calls, You don't 

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need any in persons. 
You don't even need a 

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communication. 
If it's bad enough abuse, you 

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can just boundary yourself and 
stop talking. 

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Or if it's kind of a borderline 
situation, you could send an 

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e-mail and just be like, I 
cannot continue this And I, you 

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know, please do not contact me. 
So this is the one thing that 

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the guy did well, I think in the
whiplash clip clip is that he 

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was direct. 
He started out by just saying, I

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don't think I want to be with 
you. 

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I don't remember his exact 
words, but the first words are 

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fairly neutral. 
Basically, I don't see this 

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moving forward and I think 
people deserve that. 

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Oh, I think that maybe we should
break up because I am figuring 

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some things out and I really 
like you, but I'm not sure. 

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Maybe in the future, like, give 
them closure, give them the gift

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of closure and tell them I'm not
interested in being with you 

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anymore. 
And you know, I don't feel the 

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connection. 
Make that clear by just saying I

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do not see a future for us and I
do not want to continue dating. 

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Don't beat around the Bush. 
All right, this next point I 

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think is a little maybe 
controversial. 

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We're going to watch a clip from
a really fun movie. 

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This is one of my favorite books
when I was a little kid, Little 

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Women, and this is the Joe and 
one of the Joe and Lori scenes. 

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Don't keep shopping. 
Companies that hate your values.

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All these companies out there 
that hate pro-life, hate pro 

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family values. 
Instead, find the companies that

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share your values. 
How do you do that? 

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It's easy. 
Public Square is a free 

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downloadable app. 
You can find it in your App 

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Store at the link in the bio. 
Public Square is basically the 

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Yelp for companies that support 
your values. 

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There are over 75,000 pro-life 
pro family companies on Public 

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Square that you can survey and 
you can browse and you can 

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access for free. 
Download the free Public Square 

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app today at the link in the bio
and find the companies that 

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share your values. 
And now that you're a graduate, 

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you'll be off on a long holiday.
So gorgeous wherever they're 

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walking. 
So beautiful. 

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Why should we run off and join a
pirate ship? 

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Oh, the danger of having your 
best friend be someone of the 

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opposite sex. 
I. 

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Have loved you ever since I've 
known you Joe, I couldn't help 

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it and and I tried to show you 
wouldn't let me, which is fine 

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but I must make you here now and
give me an answer because I 

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cannot go on like this any 
longer. 

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I. 
Even. 

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Like I'm happy I did, it's fine,
and I waited. 

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And I complained. 
Because I, you know, I figured 

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you'd love me, John. 
I mean, you kind of got to give 

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them a little credit because 
they were best friends. 

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They did everything together. 
So it's not out of the ordinary 

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that if you're best friends with
some of the opposite sex that 

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you would figure that they would
love you. 

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I mean, they should. 
They do love you as a friend and

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that you'd want something more 
that. 

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So that's often what happens, 
right? 

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If your best friend is someone 
of the opposite sex, I don't 

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recommend that. 
I really don't like you can have

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deep friendships with people of 
the opposite sex, but I would 

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say your best bud should be your
mom. 

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I'm just kidding. 
I mean, it can be your mom of 

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you love your mom, but it should
be like your brother or your 

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sister or, you know, someone of 
the same sex because ultimately 

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it's just it's just rough. 
And then what happens when you 

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date someone? 
You're not going to be like best

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friends going, getting dinner 
and getting coffee and like, you

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know, going on hikes with this 
one other person of the opposite

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sex. 
Like it doesn't doesn't register

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right. 
So I think that a certain level 

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of decorum and sort of 
boundaries in friendships of the

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opposite sex, both before, 
during and after dating, meaning

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when you're single, when you're 
dating, and if you're married, 

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is absolutely essential. 
And I realize I'm not half good 

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enough and I'm not this great 
man. 

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And yes, you. 
Are you're a great deal too good

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for me and I and I'm so grateful
to you and I'm so proud of you 

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and I just, I don't see why I 
can't love you as you want me 

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to. 
I don't know. 

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Why not attracted? 
I also think he wasn't 

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intellectual enough for her. 
Like that was part of it. 

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She ends up marrying this 
professor and. 

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It will be a lie to say I do and
I don't, but she's. 

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Being so honest and I think 
that's awesome. 

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I'm so sorry but I just can't 
help it. 

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I can't love anyone else, Joe. 
I only love. 

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You Kenny, It would be a 
disaster if we it. 

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Wouldn't be a disaster, we'd be 
miserable, I. 

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Can't. 
I can't. 

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I've tried it and I. 
Failed. 

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So she's trying to like he's 
pushing her and she's like 

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saying I can't do it, I can't do
it. 

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And OK, first of all, she's 
being direct. 

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Fantastic. 
She's like telling him directly.

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There's no beating around the 
Bush. 

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She's like, I do not see this. 
I do not, you know, I don't, I 

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can't see us together. 
I can't love you like that. 

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So she's being very direct, very
good. 

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The other thing that I think Joe
does that I really love here 

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actually, and this is going to 
be kind of my last principle 

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that I wanted to share on good 
breakups is that she affirmed 

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him. 
Like she directly affirmed him 

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as being someone that she's 
proud of, that she thinks she 

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even says you're better than me,
you're too good for me. 

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I'm not saying you should tell 
the person you're breaking up 

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with or you're rejecting that 
they're too good for you unless 

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you sincerely think that, you 
know, that's a big thing to 

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think. 
But more that they are somebody 

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that has incredible value as a 
human being and they have 

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attributes. 
And if you believe that they 

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will be a good spouse for 
someone someday and it, you 

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know, make someone very happy 
one day, say that I really think

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that you can tell someone when 
you're breaking up with them. 

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Be direct, right? 
Keep it simple. 

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Find that neutral place, like 
the honoring of them. 

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Don't beat around the Bush, but 
say something affirming of them,

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you know, leave them with 
ultimately positive, a blessing 

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on them, saying like, look, 
you're an amazing man or woman, 

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you know, look, I think you're 
going to make someone so happy 

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one day. 
I don't feel that connection 

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with you, but I know you are a 
catch. 

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Like I know you are a great 
person and yeah they'll that 

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person may still feel terrible 
afterwards. 

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It still may be a blow to their 
self esteem depending on their 

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situation. 
But I guarantee you that those 

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positive words long term are 
good things to leave somebody 

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with. 
Now some people might argue and 

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be like oh that's leading them 
on. 

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Like oh to say someone oh how 
great they are while you're 

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breaking up with them. 
It's a mixed message. 

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I totally disagree. 
If you are breaking up with 

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someone, and this is not an 
abuser, you're breaking up, but 

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this is just a person you're not
connected to, you don't see a 

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future with for whatever 
reasons, and you are being 

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direct with them about it. 
You're telling them I don't see 

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us getting married. 
I don't feel that connection 

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with you. 
I don't desire that with you, 

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but you tell them that they are 
someone of value that you 

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appreciate and that you know 
will have a great future. 

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I think that that is honorable. 
The last thing is if they don't 

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take no for an answer. 
So in the scene with Joe and 

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Lori, I mean, he keeps pushing. 
Eventually he does take no for 

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an answer and he goes and 
marries his sister. 

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OK, So there's a half ending for
for Teddy. 

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But if they don't take no for an
answer in the conversation, like

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have a boundary, right? 
If they're just like really 

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struggling with it, just be 
like, listen, this is where this

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is where it is. 
This is where I'm at. 

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I don't see a future for us. 
And I'm I'm sorry. 

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And then call it, you know, to 
say like, I've got to get going.

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You don't have to talk for five 
hours about it. 

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Now, if you've dated them for 
five years, you know, maybe you 

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will talk for a few hours about 
it. 

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I'm not saying just to not 
answer any questions, not 

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dialogue with them. 
But ultimately you want to 

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signal that your no is a no, 
that the end is the end in how 

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you behave and how you talk, not
just in the physical words 

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you're using, right? 
Yeah, maybe. 

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Maybe it is a few conversations 
you'll need to have. 

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Maybe it is a couple meetings, 
especially if it's a very long 

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relationship. 
But ultimately, I think that 

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does more to make it hang on the
relationship than, you know, 

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giving them positive words about
how great of a person there, if 

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you have made-up your mind, 
right? 

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Meeting up with them 10 times to
talk about why you've made-up 

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your mind to pick up with them 
and having like 10 more dates 

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with them to talk about it, I 
don't think is a good way to 

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break up. 
What about just regular everyday

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rejection, though? 
What about if it's not some big 

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breakup, it's not some big 
relationship? 

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Maybe you went on one date, 
maybe you didn't go on any 

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dates. 
And like, this is someone who's 

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asking, asking you out. 
How do you reject somebody in a 

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classy way? 
Well, I think the most 

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fundamental way to reject 
someone in a classy way is the 

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very simple line that says 
something along the lines of I'm

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flattered you asked, but no, 
thank you. 

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I'm not interested. 
And maybe, yeah, you're not 

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flattered. 
Maybe you're, you're like, 

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you're only a teeny tiny, tiny, 
tiny, tiny bit flattered. 

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But the beauty of saying I'm 
flattered, you asked, unless 

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they're a complete creep, this 
does not apply. 

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Like if this is someone who you 
know, is like an abusive super 

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creep, like someone that's not a
safe person, you don't even need

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to respond. 
You can just ignore. 

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And you certainly don't need to 
say you're flattered. 

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But this is like just a decent 
person who went out of their way

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to ask you out. 
You know, that takes courage. 

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That takes a level of, like, 
oomph that you should, I think, 

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acknowledge because it's really 
hard to do today. 

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Women complain constantly to me.
I hear all the time, nobody's 

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asking guys anyone out. 
Like, guys are not asking girls 

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out. 
And then maybe they'll get asked

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out in some way by a guy that 
they're not interested in. 

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They're like gross. 
That's not the way to go. 

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Like if you want to further 
pollute the dating pool to make 

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guys even more discouraged and 
even more disenchanted and even 

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less likely to ask anybody out 
ever again. 

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Because like, you might not like
him, but your friend or your 

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friend's sister might like him, 
right? 

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So give him that. 
Give him a little positivity of 

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the I'm flattered you asked 
because it takes courage to ask.

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So that's why I really like that
line. 

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Keep it simple, keep it classy, 
keep it positive, be direct. 

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I'm flattered you asked. 
All right, so there's this 

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scene. 
You might have seen this before.

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I find it very funny, but I 
think it's a good, it has a good

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lesson for us. 
What do you think the chances 

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are of a guy like you and a girl
like me ending up together? 

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Well, Lloyd, that's difficult to
say and we really don't. 

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Hit. 
Me with it, just give it to me 

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straight. 
I already blew it, right? 

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It's difficult to say. 
She doesn't like him. 

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She does not see herself with 
him. 

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She just say zero. 
I'm not. 

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I mean, that sounds harsh, OK? 
She just say that's very sweet, 

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but I'm not interested in you at
all. 

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I mean, you got to you got to 
not lead them on, right? 

448
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,040
OK. 
Wait just to see you Mary, just 

449
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,400
at least you can do is level 
with me. 

450
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,040
He wants honesty. 
He wants honesty. 

451
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,520
What are my chances? 
Not good, Not good. 

452
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:25,760
OK, sounds pretty honest. 
You mean not good? 

453
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:31,160
Like one out of 100. 
I'd say more like 1 out of 

454
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,480
1,000,000. 
So you're telling me there's a 

455
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,880
chance? 
All right, let's curious. 

456
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,320
Yeah. 
What's the lesson here? 

457
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,960
Yeah, some people, they will be 
the eternal optimist. 

458
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,960
But if you know they're the 
eternal optimist type, it's very

459
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,960
sweet. 
But you're like on the receiving

460
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,440
end of that and they're 
interested in you and they're 

461
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,960
asking you about you. 
Just say I'm not interested. 

462
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,800
If you really are not 
interested, you do not see 

463
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,440
yourself with this person. 
Don't say that there's a one in 

464
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,760
a million chance. 
Do not say that That's actually 

465
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,600
the one of the worst things that
you can say is going to make 

466
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,000
them try harder. 
OK, so classy. 

467
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,840
Rejection is simple. 
It's final. 

468
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,480
And it has something like, I'm 
flattered you ask or, you know, 

469
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,680
it's really flattering of you 
and you know, that's really 

470
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,160
thoughtful of you to ask me. 
Or I really admire the courage 

471
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,120
it took for you to ask me, but 
I'm not interested, OK. 

472
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,760
And listen, I think at large, 
both men and women appreciate 

473
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,880
sincerity, appreciate respectful
communication and appreciate 

474
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000
direct communication. 
OK? 

475
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,080
So being direct with the other 
person in dating is always a 

476
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,200
good mantra, is always a good 
principle, always a good rule of

477
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,880
thumb. 
Last one we're going to do here 

478
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:48,120
is a, you know, a little bit of 
a what not to do, OK. 

479
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,480
You need to hear the truth 
Bella. 

480
00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:57,160
Understand all your options and 
I want you to choose me instead 

481
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:57,480
of. 
Him. 

482
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,120
I hate this movie, by the way. 
I don't understand. 

483
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,280
I don't feel that way for you. 
I don't buy it. 

484
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,680
Don't you buy, OK? 
Believe them. 

485
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,160
If they tell you that this is so
little freebie advice, believe 

486
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,360
them. 
If they tell you that they're 

487
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,320
not interested in you, believe 
them. 

488
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,160
Let's pretend they are, but 
they're saying that they're not.

489
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,360
You don't want to play be with 
someone who plays games like 

490
00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:21,840
that. 
You don't want that. 

491
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,600
That's going to be a mind trick 
for you. 

492
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,880
And it's not going to be a 
healthy, It's definitely an 

493
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,560
unhealthy, unstable place to 
start a relationship. 

494
00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:32,680
And if they're sincerely not 
interested, take them at their 

495
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,000
word and move on so you can move
on to something better for you 

496
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,200
and they can move on to 
something better for them. 

497
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,560
That's how I feel. 
You feel something else for me, 

498
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,720
you just won't admit it. 
So I'm not giving up. 

499
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,200
Yikes. 
I don't know. 

500
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,800
I think the, the message here is
first of all, I do think this is

501
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,400
like a genre in movies of like 
the overbearing lover who really

502
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,680
wants the girl. 
You know, sometimes it's the 

503
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,280
girl who wants the guy, but 
usually it's the guy who wants 

504
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,480
the girl and she's like 
rejecting him. 

505
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,080
And I think that there is sort 
of this fantasy is a strong 

506
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,280
word, but there's a sort of like
romantic narrative around like 

507
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,840
being pursued so heavily by 
someone that you don't really 

508
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,960
love, you don't really want to 
be with, but they're still 

509
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,920
pursuing you so heavily. 
Not taking no for an answer. 

510
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,680
I don't think we should 
glamorize that. 

511
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,400
I understand, you know, on an 
archetypal level that, you know,

512
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,080
I think about like salvation and
God, like God that loves us so 

513
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,480
much he sent his only son to die
for us, Jesus Christ in a cross.

514
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,640
Like he is the ultimate lover 
who took the worst rejection for

515
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,480
the sake of us, right? 
He took on all of our sin, on 

516
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,400
all of our rejection. 
And so I can see, you know, the 

517
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,840
temptation to kind of 
romanticize in like a 

518
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,040
relationship, a romantic 
relationship, the sort of, I 

519
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,240
guess, attraction of someone who
just like goes to the ends of 

520
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,240
the earth. 
But the reality is you want a 

521
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,640
partner. 
You know marriage is not about 

522
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,080
winning someone. 
At the end of the day, it's not.

523
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,880
Yes, you want to hold their 
heart and you want yours to be 

524
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,520
held too. 
So I do think a lot of the 

525
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,000
language of like, he wins her 
heart. 

526
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,520
Yeah, Yeah, he does and she wins
his. 

527
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,400
But at the end of the day, 
you're partners and you are 

528
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,680
going to be spouses in a 
marriage and you're going to be 

529
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,800
in it together. 
And there's not one who should 

530
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,080
be, you know, always pursuing 
the other more than the other. 

531
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,600
I don't think that, you know, 
yes, my husband and I are like 

532
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,160
dating and stuff. 
He totally pursued me. 

533
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,040
He did a beautiful job, but I 
also had to pursue him in terms 

534
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,880
of, you know, really love him 
and care for him and show him 

535
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,640
that I wanted I wanted to be 
with him. 

536
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,800
It wasn't just him loving me all
day. 

537
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,080
Like I wanted to love him too. 
What's the lesson here? 

538
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,880
The lesson is here is if you 
want to reject them, reject them

539
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,640
in a classy way. 
And you know, if you're 

540
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,240
listening and you're a woman who
is really into this guy that's 

541
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,760
just not into you, let it go. 
Like you are beautiful. 

542
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,000
God is a plan for you. 
You are unique. 

543
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,640
There's someone out there, I 
believe, for just you. 

544
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,320
If you're called to marriage, 
just someone out there for just 

545
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,080
you is going to love you as you 
are and help you be better and 

546
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,200
help you live a beautiful life. 
Don't waste your time and your 

547
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,080
emotional energy on someone that
is out of reach because they're 

548
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,880
not seeing you the same way. 
OK? 

549
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,560
And if you're a guy and you're 
really into this girl, like 

550
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,840
she's something that you're just
so in love with and she's just 

551
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,040
not interested, yes, I, I know 
that hurts, but there's 

552
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,480
something better for you. 
Not that she's not good enough 

553
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,560
and there's some better girl, 
but I'm saying better for you. 

554
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,360
Like there's someone that you 
will be loved by, who will want 

555
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:25,600
to receive your love and your 
affection and your attention and

556
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,320
it's going to be beautiful. 
But if you're just pouring all 

557
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,880
your energy emotionally and your
angst into like, this is someone

558
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,880
I want to be with so badly and 
they don't want to be with me, I

559
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,480
know it's hard, but you got to 
let it go. 

560
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,680
So my advice, I don't it's just 
a werewolf and the other guy's a

561
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,760
vampire. 
So don't be like the wolf I 

562
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,240
guess be the vampire and said 
no, don't be. 

563
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,960
Don't be any creepy guy from 
whatever girlfriend this movie. 

564
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:56,920
But the point is like unrequited
love hurts, but that's not your 

565
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,520
destiny. 
And the best way to move out of 

566
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:04,120
unrequited love is to direct 
your love towards the people 

567
00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:07,800
that do love you back and your 
energy towards building those 

568
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,680
strong relationships where you 
can grow as a person. 

569
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,720
Ultimately, I believe towards 
God who always loves us back. 

570
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,440
He is love itself and we're only
going to be fulfilled in God 

571
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,880
whose complete and perfect love.
But in this life, in our human 

572
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,640
affairs, you know, don't, don't 
sit in the unrequited love like 

573
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,680
it's not the place to end up. 
There's something that God has 

574
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,080
for you. 
So have hope. 

575
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,960
And if you are going on a date, 
you'll want to look great. 

576
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,040
So go to carlyjeanlosangeles.com
and find the cutest. 

577
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,840
And this doesn't have to be just
a date with someone that you're 

578
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,520
not married to. 
If you're married, you can go 

579
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,600
get an outfit and there's 
clothes for men too. 

580
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,880
But carlyjeanlosangeles.com is a
clothing company that shares 

581
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,480
your values that has on trend 
ethically sourced adorable 

582
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,800
pieces. 
It has capsule collection so you

583
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,720
can find the basic for everyday 
wear as well as those great 

584
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,560
special pieces to spice up that 
everyday wear. 

585
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,720
That special sweater, that fun 
pair of pants, that scarf, that 

586
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,440
special dress. 
Check out 

587
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,640
carlyjeanlosangeles.com. 
They have some great stuff in 

588
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,720
for the fall. 
Great jacket, some great 

589
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,440
dresses, some great 
sweaterscarlyjeanlosangeles.com.

590
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,480
And use the code Lila Rose at 
checkout for 20% off your order.

591
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,280
One more principle. 
Leave them better than they 

592
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,360
found you. 
We'll probably do a dating 

593
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:25,160
episode just on this, but I'm 
really, this is a really 

594
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,560
important one. 
Leave the person better than 

595
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,400
they found you. 
What do I mean by that? 

596
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,480
Don't sleep with them. 
Like you know, this is not 

597
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,160
someone that you're going to be 
using their body and giving them

598
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,160
your body for pleasure and 
connection, even though you're 

599
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,760
not committed in a lifelong 
marriage. 

600
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,760
Like don't do that. 
Give them friendship, share your

601
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,520
values, share experiences 
together that it may be 

602
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,720
beautiful, but have those 
boundaries in your relationship 

603
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,480
so that when you leave that 
relationship, they were edified 

604
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,120
by you. 
They were ultimately encouraged 

605
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,200
by you. 
They weren't scarred by you. 

606
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,040
And so my closing thoughts here,
God really does have a plan. 

607
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,280
He has a plan for your life. 
I do not know what it is, OK? 

608
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,840
I don't even know what God's 
plan is for my life tomorrow 

609
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,680
because I might not live till 
tomorrow. 

610
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,600
We are not promised tomorrow. 
This life is pure gift. 

611
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,080
We can't really fully earn those
gifts or lose those gifts. 

612
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,560
You know, we can try to be 
better people. 

613
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,720
We can try to follow God and do 
all of these things, but at the 

614
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,280
end of the day, when one door 
closes, God has a plan. 

615
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,960
And the most important thing I 
think in all of dating, yes, 

616
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,400
this is a Christian message. 
This is a message of faith is 

617
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,600
trust, trust that there is a 
plan, trust that it's going to 

618
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,000
work out and a willingness to 
treat the people that we 

619
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,960
encounter, whether we're dating 
them or we having to break up 

620
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,520
with them or we're being broken 
up with. 

621
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,440
Treating those people with 
respect the other day. 

622
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:56,120
We're all human beings who have 
dignity and who deserve respect.

623
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:01,960
So remember, every breakup is a 
preparation for meeting that 

624
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,920
love of your life. 
If you're called to marriage, 

625
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,280
hang in there. 
Have hope, it's going to be 

626
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:06,760
awesome.
