1 00:00:01,100 --> 00:00:03,200 Hey, guys, and welcome to another episode of the doctor 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,600 nurse podcast. Today, we're going to be 3 00:00:05,608 --> 00:00:08,800 chatting with a me, Felix. She's the nurse with over 18 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,200 years of nursing experience, a graduate of the Pennsylvania 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,600 School of Nursing with a bachelor's in 2004 and a 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,600 master's in 2008, as she's skilled and providing exemplary 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,100 care to Pediatric patients in the hospital acute and 8 00:00:22,100 --> 00:00:24,900 outpatient settings including the Intensive Care units 9 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:27,900 outpatient subspecialties in emergency medicine, she's 10 00:00:27,900 --> 00:00:30,200 passionate about quality improvement. 11 00:00:30,300 --> 00:00:32,500 But in health care, nurses well-being, leadership 12 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:36,500 development and diversity and nursing currently on sabbatical 13 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:40,900 to reinvigorate her passion for nursing through blogging and 14 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:43,700 leading a her start-up tech company called track. 15 00:00:43,700 --> 00:00:47,400 See guys, she comes on to the podcast today. 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,600 Don't really describe why she took a sabbatical, how she took 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,500 a sabbatical, and what it has done for her career. 18 00:00:55,900 --> 00:00:58,000 And the reason why I think this is so important. 19 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,200 And cool to discuss is because I think this might be a key to 20 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,700 burnout that allows nurses to still work in the thing that 21 00:01:06,700 --> 00:01:11,100 called them to nursing without becoming burned out in to take 22 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:15,500 these breaks to either explore side hustles to either find 23 00:01:15,500 --> 00:01:19,500 other passions and just take a break from pouring into people, 24 00:01:19,500 --> 00:01:23,000 like, we do at our jobs, I hope you enjoyed the episode. 25 00:01:23,100 --> 00:01:25,300 Again, check her out. All her links are in the show 26 00:01:25,300 --> 00:01:27,300 notes. Yeah, just explore. 27 00:01:27,300 --> 00:01:30,100 What she has to say. Keep your mind open. 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,700 Open to the idea. And I'd love to hear what you 29 00:01:32,708 --> 00:01:35,500 guys are thinking about what she's doing. 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,600 So guys, enjoy the episode doctors podcast, fam. 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,100 Welcome to another episode of the doctor nurse podcast, guys. 32 00:01:43,100 --> 00:01:48,100 Today we have on the show. Amy Felix, she is a nurse with 33 00:01:48,100 --> 00:01:51,200 over 18 years of experience, including Critical Care 34 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,300 outpatient, ambulatory, and Leadership. 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,500 And she is going to come on and talk to us a little bit today 36 00:01:58,500 --> 00:02:02,000 about her journey kind of She's been doing with her career and 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:08,199 how she's kind of metamorphosis test her career into now really 38 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:10,400 advocating for nurses to take care of themselves. 39 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,300 And I just think it's such a neat thing. 40 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:15,000 She's also developed an app, we're going to get into all of 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,200 that today on the podcast, guys. Welcome in the podcast. 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,300 Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here. 43 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,100 Yeah, oh my gosh. And so for those of you that 44 00:02:25,100 --> 00:02:27,700 aren't watching on YouTube, she's like super gorgeous. 45 00:02:27,700 --> 00:02:32,000 So we're just saying I'm just really happy. 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,600 I love your hair like I'm a little biased but it's fine. 47 00:02:34,900 --> 00:02:39,000 You know from one curly to the next, I'm just loving it. 48 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,300 All right, so again I'm kind of briefly introduced you tell my 49 00:02:43,300 --> 00:02:46,800 listeners kind of what it is that you're doing right now. 50 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:49,500 Well dive into kind of how you got to where you are but just 51 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:52,200 ten listeners, kind of how you see yourself, sure. 52 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,900 So especially as we're you know, talking about 20-23. 53 00:02:55,900 --> 00:02:59,300 I really truly see myself right now is an entrepreneur and 54 00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:02,100 sometimes I use it Lesnar's entrepreneur because the work 55 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:04,500 that I'm doing kind of encompasses so many different 56 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:09,200 things and yeah, as a nurse entrepreneurs / innovator, yeah, 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,900 myself right now. So, tell me a little bit about 58 00:03:11,900 --> 00:03:15,300 what you have been working on some of the projects that you're 59 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:17,300 heading up and leading in your career. 60 00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:19,500 When these are just kind of the major ones, your two major 61 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:21,300 buckets. At least, I think of, at least 62 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:24,200 two and if you have even more just break into all the 63 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,600 different areas that you're showing your in. 64 00:03:26,900 --> 00:03:30,100 So, the things that I'm working on is first I am the co-founder 65 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,300 Under of the nurses medical movement, which inspires nurses 66 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:36,700 to take career break so that they can restore themselves and 67 00:03:36,700 --> 00:03:39,900 do their best work and find joy in the work they do. 68 00:03:39,900 --> 00:03:43,500 Secondly, I am the co-founder and CEO of track C, which is a 69 00:03:43,508 --> 00:03:46,800 mobile application that supports the nurses and doctors managing 70 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,200 their renewals and for their licenses and certifications. 71 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,000 And then lastly, I am doing some kind of work on the side working 72 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,900 with a start-up tech company called burnout anticipatory 73 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,900 anticipation Technologies which focuses on anticipating bernau 74 00:03:59,900 --> 00:04:03,000 and Four units in hospitals. That is so cool. 75 00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:05,400 So in that last role are you working as kind of like a 76 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,700 consultant like, Korean Guys? These are the signs and if 77 00:04:08,700 --> 00:04:11,300 you're seeing this, you're about to lose a bunch of your staff. 78 00:04:11,500 --> 00:04:13,500 Exactly. So it's an amazing company 79 00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:14,900 that's just getting off the ground. 80 00:04:14,900 --> 00:04:17,700 We're keeping off this year, with using different hospitals 81 00:04:17,700 --> 00:04:21,000 to try out the model. It uses technology app, which I 82 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,400 love technology and really looks at different areas to see where 83 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,400 can we anticipate for now and not just prevent it. 84 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,100 So this is a hot spot area. How do we We start getting into 85 00:04:31,100 --> 00:04:34,200 these spaces and do almost like a rapid test to make sure that 86 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,300 we prevent burnout from happening. 87 00:04:36,300 --> 00:04:39,200 So, it's really from the spectrum of before we even 88 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,400 happens. Let's figure out how to deal 89 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,700 with it. Oh my gosh. 90 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:48,400 So, I love that, and because you remember, I don't know if you 91 00:04:48,407 --> 00:04:51,300 remember this, but if whenever I was in the hospital, we used to 92 00:04:51,300 --> 00:04:54,500 have this system, where we would type in your Vital Signs, it was 93 00:04:54,500 --> 00:04:57,400 called like the Muse. We would type in the vital signs 94 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,000 and then it would tell us if a patient was like, on the way 95 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,200 Like patient was crashing, right? 96 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,900 And so used to type it in and then every shift would get like 97 00:05:05,900 --> 00:05:08,300 a musescore. So, the musical would be like, 98 00:05:08,300 --> 00:05:11,500 ten or five or whatever and like correlated with, okay. 99 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:14,400 I think he's getting really sick stuff before the patient crops, 100 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,000 and then we're trying to do CPR and code blue and all this other 101 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,000 stuff. There might be little tiny 102 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,500 indicators that you should stop doing. 103 00:05:22,100 --> 00:05:24,000 So I think that's what it sounds like. 104 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,600 What you're what you're describing to me. 105 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,900 It's like an amuse. Mm, you score for nurses that 106 00:05:29,900 --> 00:05:32,300 are Are on the way out there on their own, the burnout. 107 00:05:32,300 --> 00:05:33,900 Browse. Exactly. 108 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:37,000 And really trying to help see how we can help institutions. 109 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Use that information to help retain nurses. 110 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,700 How do they make in the moment changes to support? 111 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:44,400 Not even just the nurses, but also the leaders who are leading 112 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,500 the nurses. So I'm really excited about that 113 00:05:46,500 --> 00:05:48,500 project. That's so cool. 114 00:05:48,700 --> 00:05:52,100 Okay, so Amy, tell me a little bit about how you got here in 115 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:55,100 your career. I mean, take me through, as 116 00:05:55,100 --> 00:05:58,200 you've been working as a nurse and you 18 years of experience, 117 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,900 you graduated with your bachelors, For and then your 118 00:06:00,900 --> 00:06:05,000 Masters and I have oh not for 0808 808, okay. 119 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,900 Because I think whatever we typed it, we type 2009, ate it. 120 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:09,800 So I was like, I don't know which one it is and that's why 121 00:06:10,300 --> 00:06:12,500 it's in 2008. So you finished your Masters in 122 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:15,900 2008 and you've been just kind of look at you. 123 00:06:15,907 --> 00:06:18,800 Remember when we talked before the podcast you were like I was 124 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,800 just cranking but I'm mostly working in Pediatrics. 125 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:22,700 I think. Yes. 126 00:06:22,700 --> 00:06:26,400 And so yeah, so kind of bribe to my listeners kind of what led 127 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,500 you to this point where you're like. 128 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,200 All right, I can't do this anymore. 129 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,900 Like I can't keep climbing the corporate ladder to like take me 130 00:06:32,900 --> 00:06:34,600 through your story and your dream. 131 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:37,200 Sure. So I think my story has been 132 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,700 unique to me and I'm so glad for the journey and all the 133 00:06:39,700 --> 00:06:42,700 experiences that I've had. I've always wanted to take care 134 00:06:42,700 --> 00:06:45,600 of kids, that's always been my passion and I've always wanted 135 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,800 to help people. And so in the work that I 136 00:06:47,808 --> 00:06:50,300 started doing, you know, my first role was a bedside nurse 137 00:06:50,300 --> 00:06:54,400 in the picu, 55 beds level 1 trauma center. 138 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,400 The hardest of the hardest, and I loved it, I call it almost 139 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,500 like it was boot camp that people talk about military. 140 00:06:59,500 --> 00:07:01,600 This was boot. Because people were crashing and 141 00:07:01,608 --> 00:07:03,100 we're dying. They were living. 142 00:07:03,100 --> 00:07:05,900 Like it was an amazing time within that space. 143 00:07:05,900 --> 00:07:08,400 I always knew I wanted to make more of a difference and I think 144 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,600 that's what's Driven, most of my decisions. 145 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,900 And so, when I decided to go back and become a nurse 146 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:16,000 practitioner, it was obvious that I wanted to have more of a 147 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,200 say, or a seat at the table and making decisions for parents for 148 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,400 patients and parents. And So within that, I did, I did 149 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,400 my NP and did outpatient G which was like, completely different, 150 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:31,400 right care to, you know, working out Patient ambulatory, with 151 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,900 guts and poop and all that great stuff, right? 152 00:07:33,900 --> 00:07:35,200 Yeah. And people are like, are you 153 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,200 crazy? Like GI patients are crazy and 154 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,200 but I knew I wanted a different experience. 155 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,200 I was feeling a little bit, fatigued from taking care of 156 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,800 them, really sick patients. And really just was open to the 157 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,700 experience and within that frame, like I got to learn so 158 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:50,500 much stuff and really use my skill set as a nurse. 159 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,400 As I was the nurse the MP, you know, the social worker that 160 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,100 care coordinator and kept finding certain things that I 161 00:07:58,100 --> 00:08:00,000 love to do and was passionate about it. 162 00:08:00,100 --> 00:08:03,700 Kind of thrive in that room but lo and behold after six years gr 163 00:08:03,700 --> 00:08:06,700 just wasn't the thing anymore. And I went to the emergency 164 00:08:06,700 --> 00:08:09,100 department, which kind of was like the bread-and-butter PDF, 165 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,900 again, an amazing time learned a lot and Leadership opportunities 166 00:08:12,900 --> 00:08:15,900 presented itself, right? So you think about the ladder, 167 00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:17,300 right? People tell you, okay, as a 168 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:22,100 nurse, you can become an NP or, you know, do research or you 169 00:08:22,100 --> 00:08:25,000 could go into admin and never in the mood. 170 00:08:25,100 --> 00:08:28,300 Did I think I would do admit? Like, I remember walking into 171 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:31,800 the job the first year and me, Eating with my boss for 12 and I 172 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,500 told her I could never do what you do like thank you for doing 173 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:37,900 it but little did I know five years later? 174 00:08:37,900 --> 00:08:41,200 I would be in her job, right? So it goes to show that you 175 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,700 never know what will happen and I found myself in leadership 176 00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:47,300 after doing a lot of clinical work and saying I want to make a 177 00:08:47,308 --> 00:08:48,900 difference. I want to have a seat at the 178 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:51,200 table. Have when I paid for my work 179 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,400 force, the NP Workforce, if you think about it, in the unit is 180 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,800 so small here to Physicians and nurses. 181 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,000 So how can I truly tell them what's happening? 182 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,300 13. And so, I did leadership for 183 00:09:02,300 --> 00:09:05,000 about five years and it was a great experience. 184 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,900 You know, people find their passion and maybe Cardiology in, 185 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,700 you know, ekron diabetes, it never was a thing. 186 00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:13,600 For me was always like, oh, this is kind of cool. 187 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,400 I like learning about it but when I got into leadership and 188 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,300 leading people and helping people do great work, I found 189 00:09:20,300 --> 00:09:24,700 myself light up, you know, covid happened, I became exhausted the 190 00:09:24,700 --> 00:09:29,000 demands and the role was just do more, do more, do more with less 191 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,900 time. And I felt burned out right, 192 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:35,400 like I was losing sleep, I had headaches, I had my friends, I 193 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,700 was breaking out, I felt like I had no energy and time for the 194 00:09:38,700 --> 00:09:41,800 things that I loved and even when I went on vacation, it's 195 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,800 still didn't feel. Like I would recover it, come 196 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,700 back and be like, here we go again. 197 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:49,900 And so I decided one day I was like, you know, I could look for 198 00:09:49,900 --> 00:09:52,100 another job which is what typically people do. 199 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:56,300 But instead I think I want to take a break and I'm going to 200 00:09:56,300 --> 00:10:00,000 call it a sabbatical because you know, Physicians get it and they 201 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:04,200 Clinically priest, get it. I mean clergy get it different 202 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,100 institutions offering it and even McDonald's offers it. 203 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:12,600 So like why can't why can't we as nurses the most trusted 204 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,800 profession in the United States? Take breaks. 205 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,700 So I think my sabbatical is truly led me to all these 206 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:21,300 various roles that I'm doing now and really focusing on self-care 207 00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:25,000 supporting nurses and inspiring them to do their best work while 208 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,400 taking care of themselves and that it is compatible. 209 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,800 Yeah. So what is the sabbatical? 210 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,100 Look. Like for you because I think 211 00:10:31,100 --> 00:10:35,500 that is so interesting, again, what you said, priest, who pour 212 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:38,600 into people, right? Like they come there to serve, 213 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,400 they have a lifetime, excuse me, of service and newsflash. 214 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,400 Nurses, all that's all that we do is serve people. 215 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,300 We actually serve them at the bedside where like right 216 00:10:47,300 --> 00:10:50,000 alongside their hardest times in their hardest Journeys. 217 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,500 Why don't we get sabbaticals and sabbaticals, from what I've 218 00:10:53,500 --> 00:10:54,700 known? And again, this might be a 219 00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:56,500 listener, might be like, okay, what is this about achill? 220 00:10:56,700 --> 00:10:59,000 But it's just this time where you just take a break and you 221 00:10:59,008 --> 00:11:02,000 just get a loan and you Quiet and you just kind of listen to 222 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,900 what your soul is saying. So what it is sabbatical look 223 00:11:04,900 --> 00:11:07,600 like for you and then what did you walk away from that? 224 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,600 Sabbatical with exactly? Does that do you define it 225 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,000 correctly? And while people might look at 226 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,600 my story and say that it wasn't necessary sabbatical because I 227 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,500 literally quit my job, but I will talk a little bit more 228 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:20,700 about that afterwards. My sabbatical really was to take 229 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:24,000 three months off to rest. Like I knew I was burned out, I 230 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,600 wanted to just buy it. My mind I wanted to sleep in, 231 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,900 maybe take a vacation on a beach and really just just refocus on 232 00:11:30,900 --> 00:11:34,500 my healing. Let my leg workout made and not 233 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:36,800 be disturbed by The Cutting noises of a ding. 234 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,600 Microsoft teams meeting non-stop. 235 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,700 Eat a real meal and not rush to do so, in front of a computer 236 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:47,200 while typing patient milk, like the little things that we take 237 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,200 for granted and so for the first three months, that's what I did. 238 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,700 I nothing people would say you're on your couch and I was 239 00:11:52,700 --> 00:11:56,200 like, yes, it's great to be on my couch and not having to focus 240 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,700 on the next 50 things that I have to do. 241 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,900 However, three I was like, you know, by the second month I 242 00:12:01,908 --> 00:12:04,100 said, oh I'll start looking for a job, but I wasn't ready. 243 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,100 I wasn't healed yet and So within how did you know that? 244 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:09,700 Don't, you know, you weren't ready. 245 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,400 I was so tired and every job that I looked at, I mean, I 246 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,600 look, I was looking at Raw jobs, because I was saying to my, you 247 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,200 know, once I take this break, I'm ready to get back out there. 248 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,500 I'm ready to hike the cause but nothing brought joy to me every 249 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:26,400 job that I've ever taken in my life. 250 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,400 I've been excited about every single one, there was nothing 251 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,600 that was Calling me to say the next step. 252 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,200 Now I do believe in God and I would say, maybe there's a 253 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,300 spiritual portion to this where he was like that's not it. 254 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:41,100 But for me in those moments I knowing that no job was 255 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:43,800 appealing. I realized I needed more time 256 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,400 and so I took more time. That's incredible. 257 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,000 I love that. So, with your time that you 258 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:53,100 took, excuse me, what were the questions you ask yourself, what 259 00:12:53,100 --> 00:12:56,700 were the the little Quiet Moments in The Whispers that you 260 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:58,200 heard from your soul? I hear. 261 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,400 You said you were tired. Is something that you began to 262 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,400 go. What does bring me joy of being? 263 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,700 These are questions. You had to ask yourself. 264 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,400 How do you explore? What what was going to be? 265 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,200 The thing that you would jump back into the workforce for? 266 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,000 Yes. Oh I think it was multiple 267 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,300 modalities. So I will say and really do 268 00:13:16,300 --> 00:13:19,200 support. Nurses are asking anybody really 269 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,900 talking to a therapist or seeking counseling because I 270 00:13:21,900 --> 00:13:25,400 think we see so much in our career that that also helped me 271 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,900 transition to this space so I will definitely say that was 272 00:13:28,900 --> 00:13:31,500 part of my journey. A part of it was thinking about 273 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:34,700 what are the skill sets that I enjoy the most in the work that 274 00:13:34,700 --> 00:13:36,800 I do and what are the skills that said I do? 275 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,500 Effortlessly that bring me joy which is mentorship talking 276 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:43,300 about will be supporting nurses, right? 277 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:47,200 So anything in that framework and then how did I see myself 278 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,800 wanting to work. So it's not just the role. 279 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,700 What did I want my day-to-day to look? 280 00:13:51,700 --> 00:13:55,300 Like, do I want 10 hour days? Do I want 12-hour days? 281 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,400 Did I want to be on a, you know, device, all of the time and I 282 00:13:58,408 --> 00:13:59,900 realized those things didn't take me. 283 00:14:00,100 --> 00:14:03,000 Anymore being busy, the excitement of walking to the 284 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,700 hospital did not resonate with me. 285 00:14:04,900 --> 00:14:08,600 I realized I wanted flexibility. I wanted to do my best work, but 286 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,300 be able to create and innovate without restrictions. 287 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:16,400 So what came to the surface? I mean what was it that you 288 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,800 walked away, from this sabbatical like rip-roarin ready 289 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,800 to do? Yeah, so I think two things 290 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,700 really surfaced in the midst of prior, to me leaving my role. 291 00:14:24,700 --> 00:14:27,900 I had been working on this app because I really got frustrated 292 00:14:27,900 --> 00:14:29,500 with the process of renewing. My three. 293 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,200 Isis and my two certifications, and I was like, this is 294 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,200 ridiculous copying pieces of paper putting them in file 295 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,600 folders. So my co-founder and I have to 296 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,700 Raj's Eyre had formed this company called track, see where 297 00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:43,300 we wanted to create an app to do so, but, you know, when you're 298 00:14:43,300 --> 00:14:45,400 kind of working on a passion project, and it's there, and 299 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,000 it's like, oh, we're slowly building it. 300 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,400 And so, in April, of last year, when I was ready to say, okay, 301 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,000 I'm going to find a job. The app was ready to go on the 302 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,900 market and I was like, wait like that wasn't part of my plan, 303 00:14:55,900 --> 00:14:57,400 right? But I was like here's this great 304 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,900 opportunity. Let's put it out there for free. 305 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,400 And see what happens. So, we did. 306 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,500 And we started getting some traction and then, within a week 307 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:06,700 or two, I entered my first pitch competition. 308 00:15:06,700 --> 00:15:09,400 Now, I can tell you, I may have watched a few episodes of Shark 309 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,100 Tank. I come from a healthcare 310 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:13,900 background. I know how to do budgets, but 311 00:15:13,900 --> 00:15:17,400 pitching like, what is it? And so, I entered my first pitch 312 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,500 competition in the city of Philadelphia against nine other 313 00:15:20,500 --> 00:15:24,200 countries and got third place. And we went ten thousand dollars 314 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,400 and I think it was like, ding ding, ding. 315 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,200 This is where you're supposed to be. 316 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:31,000 It's going to feel Rocky it. It's completely different than 317 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,700 you've ever done, but you're still helping people using your 318 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:35,100 nursing skills in a different way. 319 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,900 And I think those were the signs that told me you're entering an 320 00:15:37,900 --> 00:15:40,400 entrepreneurship plane and you're really going to create 321 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,000 this whole new thing that's different and that's okay. 322 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,400 It is so inspiring. I mean like update makes my hair 323 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,200 stand up on end. It's just so cool because I 324 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,500 can't like what you were saying about hearing and knowing from 325 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:55,700 something higher. Now, for me, that again, that's 326 00:15:55,700 --> 00:15:59,200 God too. Like he does direct us if we 327 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,500 quiet our Selves and we allow him to and we get so busy in the 328 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:07,200 hubbub of everyday work and we just think about the paycheck 329 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,800 and the stability and we talk about faith, we talk about 330 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,300 having faith. And yet, when we are asked to 331 00:16:13,300 --> 00:16:16,500 step out in faith and do the scary thing, we're like that's 332 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:18,400 real scary. This one security do that. 333 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:20,700 I think you just say I got faith but like, if you know, it's 334 00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:23,100 just, you know, it's like shaky faith and I'm there. 335 00:16:23,100 --> 00:16:26,300 But I'm not like 100% And so like what you're describing is 336 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:29,000 just like stepping out in faith and just being like, okay wait, 337 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,800 what is this look like. I'm taking a bet on me when I'm, 338 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,000 you know, able to accomplish. And when I'm able to push myself 339 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,600 to, in the limits that I'm able to do our least the limits, I'm 340 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,400 able to extend myself to and so I think that is. 341 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,900 So I think it's just so neat that you were able to step into 342 00:16:45,900 --> 00:16:48,500 that really out of that. And even though you were looking 343 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:51,200 for a job, you were looking to do that thing that we always do 344 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,000 is to get back in the rat race and to get back in the boat and 345 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,200 row, the boat something told you. 346 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,400 No wait, listen, wait, wait wait. 347 00:16:58,500 --> 00:17:01,400 And we're so busy rushing. Sheep all the time. 348 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:05,300 That it is so good that you spent that time and you were 349 00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:09,599 able to hear yourself, and you just seem like you're just 350 00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:11,900 living in. What is what you're passionate 351 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:14,500 about. So, tell me a little bit about 352 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:18,700 what you've done with the, excuse me, with the sabbatical 353 00:17:18,700 --> 00:17:21,200 thing, because I know that you were telling me you've been 354 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,800 encouraging other nurses, right? So you've got tracks ee, that's 355 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,599 making because I'm assuming it's like a subscription service, you 356 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:30,400 sign up, you get to serve rice. Exactly. 357 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,800 So we're in the beginning. Phases of developing, it was 358 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,300 running on, it's like initial version which we call the 359 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:37,600 minimal viable product. And then we plan to hopefully 360 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,500 watch this year as a paid subscription and collaboration 361 00:17:40,500 --> 00:17:42,800 with state board. So hopefully that system or 362 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,500 process can be more automated, that's so cool. 363 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,700 And then the sabbatical the sabbatical experience in that 364 00:17:49,700 --> 00:17:53,300 whole thing is made you go. Hey listen, I think more nurses. 365 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:55,600 Need this and that's watched another side. 366 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,500 Hustle thing that you've been a part of tell me a little bit 367 00:17:57,500 --> 00:18:00,700 about exactly. So really, a It was more of me 368 00:18:00,700 --> 00:18:03,800 just blogging to say hey this is my experience, is of the things 369 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,400 that I've been feeling. Is there anyone else feeling it? 370 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,400 But as I started sitting with it more, I was like I want to help 371 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,000 other people and people have reached out to me saying, hey 372 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,500 Mike are you still on sabbatical like what did you do? 373 00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:18,000 I had, you know, other people who also left the similar role 374 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,100 to me and took a month off. Like it doesn't have to be a 375 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:24,100 long period of time and they would just felt rejuvenated. 376 00:18:24,100 --> 00:18:26,500 I had people who question like I want to leave my role but I'm 377 00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:28,700 not sure. And I was like, well you can do 378 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:31,800 all these things don't Worried about the money but you can make 379 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,200 a different lifestyle for yourself because nursing is 380 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,800 truly a great profession and you can do thing you want, we just 381 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,600 have to be reminded to use those skills to do as such. 382 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,600 So I'm really excited that this year. 383 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,300 I'm going to be launching, of course, to support nurses with 384 00:18:45,300 --> 00:18:48,200 some group coaching and how to do their own sabbatical and use 385 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,900 their skill set, to ReDiscover their passion, for nursing and 386 00:18:50,900 --> 00:18:54,700 find roles that really are, you know, suitable to the lifestyle, 387 00:18:54,700 --> 00:18:57,000 they want to lead. So look out for more information 388 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,700 and that coming this February, who cool So what are some of the 389 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:03,300 goals that you have for the sabbatical course that you're 390 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:05,300 going to launch? Thanks for listening to the 391 00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:07,000 episode. I hope you're enjoying the 392 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,400 conversation. 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And when I'm building here, any 403 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:48,400 promotion, any sharing helps build my audience and I greatly 404 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,800 appreciate it. Now let's get back to the 405 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,100 episode. So really and truly to hopefully 406 00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:57,600 Inspire 50 nurses to take a career break, Andre kind of 407 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,300 refocus how they want to work and how they want to Babe. 408 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:03,700 And, you know, my big, big goal which is not. 409 00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:06,800 This here is really to get a sabbatical program within an 410 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,900 institution that is sponsored. So that nurses, you know, so 411 00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:15,000 many times were denied vacation can take a month off and rest, 412 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,100 and come back refreshed to do the work that they want. 413 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:19,100 Yeah, that's yeah. My big big goal. 414 00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:22,800 Yeah, that would be really cool. And again, just even if that was 415 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,700 something that we could do every year, I think that we would plea 416 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:31,200 retain more nurses where we could have the coverage Image to 417 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,300 step out, right? Because we're in this nursing 418 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:36,400 shortage and that I can imagine institutions being like, Oh my 419 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,800 gosh, how are we going to let a nurse, take a month off? 420 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,400 We're already short. Hey, you already short because, 421 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,600 you know, let nurses do this. So if you allow blacks to have 422 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,500 the break to have the space to have the time to go, I have the 423 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:53,100 next month off, I get to just think and create and because I 424 00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:56,400 believe we're creative people. Like I believe something inside 425 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,000 of us, when you think about biblically, we're from a 426 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,000 creator. Created the world in seven days, 427 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000 right? They that was his job. 428 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,700 He spent seven days, he created the world. 429 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:09,600 He spent the last day of rest, if the god of the universe needs 430 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,300 a day of rest, you don't think you do. 431 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,100 So, one thing I love about it is that he shows I love creating 432 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,300 and then I also need rest. Right? 433 00:21:18,300 --> 00:21:21,000 Exactly. So those are two themes that we 434 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,900 get from the Bible that are very clear on how we should live our 435 00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:26,600 life. Which again, I'm not saying we 436 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,600 can't work and institutions and systems that are already 437 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,800 created. Waited for us, that's not wrong. 438 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,800 But I do believe that there is something in all of us that 439 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,200 desires or is something that's been implanted in us for us to 440 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,400 build, for us to make because we all have a contribution to make 441 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,400 in this world. One of the things I noticed as 442 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,500 well and I was telling my husband this and before husband, 443 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:49,900 he probably thinks that trips super hard on stuff, but I 444 00:21:49,908 --> 00:21:53,900 noticed that in toddlers shows which I do. 445 00:21:53,900 --> 00:21:55,900 I'm a you know, I let my kid watch TV. 446 00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:59,600 He I'm sure people will be up in arms about that but yeah, I let 447 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,600 him I monitor what it is, but I noticed they all talk about 448 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,300 being a hero, all of them, you know, spider, he's a hero, he 449 00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:12,400 chase the heroes and it's always the heroes and the villains, 450 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,200 right? And I was thinking about it. 451 00:22:14,208 --> 00:22:17,500 I was like, why are all the shows for kids, based on the 452 00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:21,600 same premise? And I think it's because there's 453 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,500 something within us that wants to change the world contribute 454 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,700 to be this thing. That's like I did that. 455 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:35,000 That like I read that and so I think that that's a mile like 456 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,800 desire is on all of us, but we suppress it with pills with 457 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,900 bills with you know obligations with all the things that we 458 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:47,600 think are things were supposed to be doing and yet that child 459 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,600 still stays in there and it's like, I want to like, what am I 460 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,400 meant to do? Like, am I meant to be 461 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,400 Spider-Man. Am I meant to be gecko from PJ 462 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,300 masks? Like, what is it? 463 00:22:56,300 --> 00:22:59,700 Can I'm supposed to do? That's supposed to bring it. 464 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,200 That's my role as, you know, the hero in my own journey and my 465 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,800 own story. So I think it's something that 466 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,900 I've been looking at and I've been wondering, like, what is 467 00:23:09,900 --> 00:23:11,800 that? And then how do we apply that 468 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,700 ourselves, as adults? Because I'm starting to realize 469 00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:17,800 that toddlers are just uninhibited adults and this 470 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,300 wonderful, it's sometimes really tough but it's also super 471 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:23,700 wonderful to watch. Did you just realize like I mean 472 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:26,900 they're tired I need to eat food or you know like it's just 473 00:23:26,900 --> 00:23:29,400 certain things that really don't change about the way that we 474 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,500 are. But yeah, I think that that is 475 00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:33,600 something that I think is very interesting. 476 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:37,900 Anyway, it's probably a huge aside, but let's chat again, 477 00:23:37,900 --> 00:23:42,300 keep it on to on task here. What was one aspect of business 478 00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:44,400 that you have found something to overcome? 479 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:47,400 And then one aspect that you felt like your nursing skills 480 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,300 helped you in navigating? I think just understanding 481 00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:53,500 business. Like I said, I'm purely for my 482 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:56,000 nursing background. I have no idea about marketing 483 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,000 and different terms and Technology. 484 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,200 Like we Technology from our standpoint, but it could be very 485 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,900 scary when, you know, you're learning a business or even how 486 00:24:05,900 --> 00:24:09,000 to build it and the forms and everything you have to figure 487 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,300 out and I was nervous. I was like, am I really doing 488 00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:13,500 this? Like, am I doing the right 489 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,500 thing? But then, if you think about 490 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:17,700 nursing, right, like when we go to school, we get all of the 491 00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:19,800 books that tell us, okay? These are the things you do. 492 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:22,400 And it's that prepares us for when you're the patients in 493 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,900 front of you because things are always going awry and, you know, 494 00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:28,000 through my career, I've transitioned to different 495 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,800 Specialties so many times that I'm starting new fresh and 496 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,900 learning something new is not the first time and it's not 497 00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:37,600 going to be the last time, so going with that same mindset, 498 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,400 that it's not going to be perfect but I'm going to learn 499 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,300 it as I go. And get better. 500 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,100 Is really what's helped me get this far and especially in 501 00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:48,100 talking to people. It's like, as nurses, we talked 502 00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:51,000 to so many people all the time but even today, my friends are, 503 00:24:51,008 --> 00:24:53,100 like, everywhere you go, you meet people and I was like, 504 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:56,800 don't you talk to people, right? But I realize that's, that's my 505 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,700 special add. That's my my gift, right? 506 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,300 I just share it with others, so I guess you're super pup. 507 00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:04,500 Me, that's my super super right. Yep. 508 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:08,400 That's how I've found people. To help support me as I moved in 509 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,900 charge. Yeah, that's really good. 510 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:12,200 And then what is something that you felt like was a natural. 511 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,100 And again, that's probably what you're saying, my natural 512 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:16,700 ability is I was a nurse and so I'm able to just go into the 513 00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:18,400 room and talk to complete strangers and feel very 514 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,300 comfortable. And then the part is, I don't 515 00:25:20,300 --> 00:25:22,600 really know business and I don't really understand these things. 516 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,300 And so it's something new every day. 517 00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:26,900 It's something challenging, which is nice, right? 518 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:30,600 I mean, that's that plasticity. That nurses Has I think have to 519 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,500 have a lot of because we aren't specialized, whereas Physicians. 520 00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:38,300 You know, they they perfect in their little area, right? 521 00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:41,900 Urology, or GI or, and they get really, really specific and they 522 00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:45,000 Niche down really, really well. But nurse practitioners have the 523 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,300 options of walking into a GI clinic and taking patients and 524 00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:52,600 walking into urology clinic and we can just be really flexible 525 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,200 which, you know, again is more challenging but again, that 526 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,700 neuroplasticity that we've got to then use it can actually 527 00:25:58,700 --> 00:26:00,900 translate into. Hey, Need to learn business and 528 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:03,800 however, you learn it either through a course or through a 529 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,200 mentor or through asking or whatever. 530 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,500 Might take a little bit longer, but you'll get there, it's just 531 00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:11,200 going to take some time. So I think that's really, really 532 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,200 neat and if you can talk to a nurse that's burned out, she's 533 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,600 exhausted. I want to sabbatical, that 534 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,400 sounds great. Oh my gosh, I think there was 535 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,300 this John Crist. He's a, he's a comedian but he 536 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:25,700 did this. This act where he said he was in 537 00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:28,900 rehab because he had some issue. And so he went to rehab and he 538 00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:31,400 called his Ends. And he told his friends, I'm in 539 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,000 rehab, and they have children. So she was like, he's like, 540 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,100 yeah, I was complaining. He's like, they make my food for 541 00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:41,500 me and I just have to, like, go and like meditate and like, I 542 00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:43,900 just gotta like, be quiet. I can't like, you know, 543 00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:46,800 whatever, whatever. And I'm always outside and the 544 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,700 wife was, like, can I go to rehab like that? 545 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:53,400 It sounds wonderful. Like and so it was just really 546 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,000 funny, like skip, but I was just thinking, like, you know, what 547 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,400 is, what it, what if there was a nurse that's like, listen, I 548 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,300 want to Radical like that sounds great. 549 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,400 What would you? What would be one of the things 550 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,100 that you would tell her to do, or to start in order to maybe 551 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:12,000 get her doing a sabbatical? I would say. 552 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,500 Number one, first of all believe that it's possible like I never 553 00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:17,100 and I think it might be the tourist in me. 554 00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:20,200 The words, no, doesn't really exist if it's no this time, it's 555 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,900 find another way because anything is possible. 556 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,300 And then, secondly, I would say I understand, you're why? 557 00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:29,000 Like, I think I knew what I wanted from it. 558 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,200 Why? I I needed to do it but I think 559 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,100 once you understand that it's possible and why you want to do 560 00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,500 it, everything else can fall into line, right? 561 00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:40,300 Your why drives your wife feels feels your purpose and it helps 562 00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:43,200 you in the moments when you have doubt fear that you can do this 563 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,900 thing. So, those are the first two 564 00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:47,100 things that I would say that. Yeah, because I would imagine, 565 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:50,100 like, you know, again, if most Americans are living paycheck to 566 00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:55,200 back then how do you just break away from your job for 42 months 567 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,900 or whatever? Reister, you just just were like 568 00:27:57,900 --> 00:27:59,600 during your work hours or just like, put money. 569 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,800 Away you're like I know. This is what I'm doing. 570 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,200 So I'm going to prepare I'm going to build the nest I guess. 571 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,100 Well yeah and I think it's I mean there are two different 572 00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:10,200 ways you do it. I've met someone recently who 573 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,300 just really told their boss that and I think I would have had I 574 00:28:13,308 --> 00:28:16,800 had this option that I'm really exhausted and I need time off 575 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,400 and they were able to get a month off from work, right? 576 00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:23,400 So it's really if you think about it right now, it is the 577 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,900 nurses rule. You can decide how you want to 578 00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:27,600 do. Things people may look at you 579 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,000 differently. They may talk about you. 580 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,200 Like, how dare? Dare he, or she do this but 581 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,200 really and truly you can design it how you want it to be done. 582 00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:38,000 So there are some people who have taken paid. 583 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,500 There's some people have done vacation time in order to get it 584 00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:43,100 for me. Like I said, I needed to break 585 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:46,400 free completely and I was lucky enough that, you know, I came 586 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,800 off the year of the pandemic where I was able to save a lot 587 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,900 of money because I wasn't able to travel. 588 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,000 I paid off my student debt, and so I was debt-free and I was 589 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:59,500 like, I can afford to put money into me, I can afford. 590 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,000 Can afford to do this, right? And reading books. 591 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,100 Like the psychology of money time is money, right? 592 00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:09,200 And money buys your freedom and that's what my savings did. 593 00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:12,500 And having a strategic plan like looking at, you know, you know, 594 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:15,900 you're sick time, you're paid vacation and all of that and you 595 00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:19,400 just live differently like and not to say that I have not been 596 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,700 traveling and look you know the way that I normally am 597 00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:24,300 accustomed to but certain things I didn't need any more like I 598 00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:25,900 didn't have to buy lunch five days a week. 599 00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:27,300 Why? Because I could make food and it 600 00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:29,500 was like great like at 12:00 noon time. 601 00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:32,800 Eating lunch for myself, instead of ordering from GrubHub, that 602 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,600 would take an hour. Those were the benefits for me. 603 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,700 Yeah, that is so, well said. And then, if you could go back 604 00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:42,300 and tell yourself, one thing at the beginning of your career 605 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,100 that you would say, Amy, I want you to hold onto this piece of 606 00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,900 advice. What would you tell that tell 607 00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:51,700 that young Amy? And what is a piece of advice 608 00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:54,700 that you would tell her, this is garbage, don't listen to it. 609 00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:57,500 So a piece of advice that she needs to hold ghost, her heart 610 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,600 for the rest of her career, and then one piece of advice. 611 00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:02,600 You tell her. And this is garbage toss it. 612 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,800 I think the one piece of advice, I would tell her is that your 613 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,000 path is going to look different. And it's okay. 614 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,300 I think, you know, coming up as a young nurses, starting with 615 00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:15,200 other people in the ICU, you're always wanting your peers to see 616 00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:18,100 how far they scaling. I remember the first time that 617 00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:20,700 one of my peers was charge nurse after two years and I'm like, 618 00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:23,000 I'm just as good. Why can't I be charging us and 619 00:30:23,008 --> 00:30:26,500 then advocated for that and always trying to be on that same 620 00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:28,100 level, right? And they're probably many 621 00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:31,200 reasons for that I like push myself to be the best that I 622 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,100 could be. But understanding that my path 623 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,600 looking different than others. And that's okay because it's 624 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,400 still going to get me to where I want to be. 625 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,400 So I would say that would be the one thing that I would tell my 626 00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:44,900 younger self. The second question was, what is 627 00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:47,000 the piece of advice? You would tell her if she comes 628 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,500 to you and says this to you. This is not true. 629 00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:51,000 Don't believe it. This isn't true. 630 00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:54,800 Is it true? You have to work this hard all 631 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,000 the time? Oh, that's a good one. 632 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,000 That's a good. What? 633 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,000 You have one of my favorite is hard. 634 00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:05,700 Yeah, you have to work this hard all the time, I think, you know, 635 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:08,900 I'm also kind of like this anti hustle culture, I'm over it and 636 00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:11,500 I'm not about it, I'm not about checking emails and for 637 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:14,800 different devices, every single hour to make sure I'm super 638 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,600 aware. I think that it's important for 639 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:19,600 quiet time as we discussed before. 640 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,900 I think it's important for silence and you can still get 641 00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:23,400 the work done. But yeah. 642 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,500 That would be my one piece of advice. 643 00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:27,400 Yeah. Because when you think about it, 644 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,200 I got going back to a similar concept. 645 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,900 We were discussing about you know the the Lord built the 646 00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:35,500 world. That's always my project, it's 647 00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:37,600 not he did that in seven days, right? 648 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,600 And then he spent time for rest and so I just find it ironic 649 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,100 that he spent one-seventh of the time of the week in Rust in 650 00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:48,800 absolutely doing nothing. Which again is described what he 651 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,700 was doing but he was resting whatever that looks like to you 652 00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:54,000 and it wasn't a legalistic thing. 653 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,300 I think it's just the way that nature needs it to be like you 654 00:31:57,300 --> 00:32:00,700 can't just keep going and you do feel That way you do. 655 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,300 I mean we run low on sleep, we don't take our time to eat, 656 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,000 there's a lot of literature out there on taking your time when 657 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:12,300 you're eating to step away from the work, and go sit outside and 658 00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:14,500 eat. I find in my clinical space 659 00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:17,000 right now that I don't even have time to go sit outside and eat. 660 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,900 I have to be at the desk writing notes because if I'm not there, 661 00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:23,300 I'm gonna be there late and so that little 30 minutes we'll be 662 00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:26,400 going to say no, please don't finish, no, not, that was it. 663 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,800 That's always gonna say, well, that's so so it's not awful, 664 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,600 it's awful. I know it's awful. 665 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,800 So I think, you know, really how I got started in this well-being 666 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,100 work is that I was the manager of almost 40 advanced practice 667 00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:38,500 providers in a busy emergency department with over 80, 668 00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:40,700 something beds. And the thing that drove me into 669 00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:42,900 the craziest, the most, when some of these, I don't have time 670 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:44,400 to eat. I just have to keep going. 671 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,400 And I was like, what are you talking about? 672 00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:48,800 Because I also get hangry like the Snickers commercial if I 673 00:32:48,808 --> 00:32:50,700 don't use. So, that's really not at all 674 00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:52,200 blurry. That's right. 675 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,000 If I love but I know how to take care of it. 676 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,500 All right, but it's this idea of nurses. 677 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,800 We have to keep going. We can't take breaks, we can't 678 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,100 take vacation. The day that we have off, if 679 00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:04,300 they call us for overtime, I feel bad for my team so I have 680 00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:08,300 to go in or that extra x amount of money is when I need to 681 00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:10,500 propel me. But what is it that when you do 682 00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:13,000 go in, and you're tired and you're exhausted and you're not 683 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,200 giving your back right? Again, the toddler comes out and 684 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,400 I think it's us realizing like, wait a minute, maybe I do need 685 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,400 to take the 20 minutes, just to even talk to someone just 686 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,500 change, just take a breath. Would really just change how the 687 00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:29,500 rest of my day flows and also as an aside, as a nurse of the 688 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,300 embarrassing to go out and eat socially because I'm so used to 689 00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:35,700 doing this. That would your people like we 690 00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:37,700 just got the course, how are you done already? 691 00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:50,600 I was like oh you're not. Oh my gosh, that is so funny. 692 00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:52,400 Oh I can totally see that happening. 693 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,000 Yes for sure. And I think one of the things 694 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,200 that I listen to Tony Robbins and like one of the things he 695 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,400 said one time was he Like you need to take five minutes for 696 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,200 yourself to meditate and he goes if you don't have five minutes 697 00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:06,000 what kind of life are you living? 698 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,199 It was like such a statement and I just remember stopping and 699 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,300 just being like he's 100% correct if I don't even have 700 00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:16,900 five minutes, I've met in my life to sit down and deep 701 00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:20,000 breathe, what kind of Life am I living? 702 00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:27,199 And again, if I can't take a month, 30 days to 30 Bend out of 703 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:31,900 my out of my year. I'm just Going to listen to 704 00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:37,600 here, to rest to recoup again. What kind of Life am I living? 705 00:34:37,699 --> 00:34:40,400 And I don't think we ever stop and think about it. 706 00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:44,100 I don't think we ever stop and think I think I deserved rest, 707 00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:48,100 like, and I really believe that this rest will be restorative 708 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,699 and bring me back to work even better. 709 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,000 So you want me gone? You don't want me here. 710 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,700 I want my toddler to nap. I I miss him, the moment, he's 711 00:34:57,700 --> 00:34:59,400 asleep, I'm like, oh man, I miss that kid. 712 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,800 I want him to nap because it manages he's awful. 713 00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:06,200 So it's the same thing. It's so interesting that we 714 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,200 accept these things and other areas of our lives. 715 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,400 But for ourselves, we don't give ourselves the option to go but 716 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,200 I'm feeling a little toddler. Like, I'm gonna go take five 717 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,600 20-minute break during my day and I don't have 20 minutes 718 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,400 during my day for me. I got to find the job, like I 719 00:35:22,408 --> 00:35:24,700 got to go find something else because I can't keep doing this. 720 00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:28,400 This is not, this is not acceptable and when you set that 721 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,800 in your mind that this is Is not acceptable anymore. 722 00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:32,500 It changes. Everything. 723 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:34,200 You begin to just go. This is the standard. 724 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,500 You're not meeting at you. Need to go like I and you just 725 00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:40,600 you operate differently, you attract things differently. 726 00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:45,300 Now, you're able to help other nurses do exactly what it is 727 00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:48,200 that you needed to do, which is something unique to you, but I 728 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,800 think. Yeah, it's incredible, you know, 729 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:59,200 for them. Okay, so tell me. 730 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,100 The last part of the interview we're going to do rapid fire. 731 00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:05,100 OK, so rapid-fire, you can't prepare for which is Spyglass to 732 00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:07,200 your pants. Just give it to give what you 733 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,400 got, what comes to the surface and what's your favorite holiday 734 00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:12,800 coming up, Holly? So I just thought I would ask. 735 00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:17,500 What's my favorite holiday? I was a Christmas Christmas is I 736 00:36:17,508 --> 00:36:19,000 think? Yeah, I think it's all the 737 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,800 Traditions. The family traditions, my family 738 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,300 is from the Caribbean. There's to eat foods and things 739 00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:27,300 that we eat, and it's just like this homey, and, although homey 740 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,900 and what's your favorite color? Favorite color green greet? 741 00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:33,700 Like what kind of green like an emerald green. 742 00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:41,300 Like A kelly green hunter green. It's it's like a between which 743 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:44,100 is kind of the color of, like, dinner sabbatical because it's 744 00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:47,500 just so calming. Oh, I love that and if you had 745 00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:50,800 to give a gift to someone as a book, so you have to give 746 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,900 somebody a gift, a book as a gift. 747 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:54,600 Which book? Is it all my life? 748 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,100 Just went out, there it goes its back which book would you give 749 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,400 I've heard so many good. Most recently, I would say this 750 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,300 year, I would honestly say the psychology of money. 751 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,700 I think that we are driven so much by money, like, we need 752 00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:13,200 money in order to pay bills and live excetera, that we sometimes 753 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,400 don't really understand its power. 754 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,500 And if we have a better understanding of it than what 755 00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:19,900 have a better way of using it to design the lifestyle that we 756 00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:23,400 look. I love that because it's true 757 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,200 and there's a lot of trauma around money. 758 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,100 There's a lot of generational curses around money and so if 759 00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:32,100 you can break down what it is like you're just function is 760 00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:34,100 with money. I think you would learn a lot 761 00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:36,200 about yourself. I mean, even just in the time 762 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,100 that I've been an adult. I've learned there's certain 763 00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:41,500 things about money that are triggers and things that are 764 00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:42,800 just in there. Just rough. 765 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,400 I think that's cool. I'm going to I wrote it down so 766 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,200 I'm going to check it out. Yeah definitely Amy thank you so 767 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,100 much for your time today. No problem. 768 00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:51,200 Thank you so much for having me. It was a pleasure. 769 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,500 Is there any like Shameless plug you'd like to give so people can 770 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:58,200 find you on all your social medias sure. 771 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,500 It definitely follow me on. Graham, I'm the nurse about 772 00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:04,400 Uncle or fake opener sabbatical. Like I said, I am here to help 773 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,200 Inspire and support nurses, take breaks, so that they can do the 774 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,300 work. They love with ease and not 775 00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:13,000 stressed out and we'll be launching a group coaching 776 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,700 program. So please come find me, send me 777 00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:17,000 a DM. You can also email me, as well. 778 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,300 All of my information is on my blog as well ww. 779 00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:23,100 Dot the nurse about.com, fantastic ice. 780 00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:26,500 Check her out. And as always guys, enjoy the 781 00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:28,700 journey of your careers. Thanks for hanging out. 782 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,200 So that's a wrap, be sure to subscribe to the show so you 783 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,800 don't miss an episode and leave me a review. 784 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,600 If you like the show, I would love to get 5 stars. 785 00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:42,200 The doctors podcast is on the world wide web, YouTube 786 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,500 Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, patreon, and Tick-Tock subscribe 787 00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:50,700 to my newsletter for updates on new podcast episodes and other 788 00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:53,400 information to help you on your own nursing Journey. 789 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,100 You can always message me at the doctor nurse podcast at 790 00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:58,800 gmail.com with any career professions that you're 791 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,100 interested in. Hearing about and just a 792 00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:03,100 friendly. Reminder, the information on 793 00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:06,200 this podcast is for educational purposes only and the 794 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,200 information should not be used in substitute for Professional 795 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,700 Care by a medical provider. The information in this podcast 796 00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:16,600 does not represent medical or professional advice or services. 797 00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:23,200 Jim mom back. Bye.