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Hi guys and welcome to another 
week of the doctor nurse 

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podcast. 
I hope you guys are having a 

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great start to the week and you,
if you're listening to this 

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podcast, towards the end of the 
week, you were having a 

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wonderful week. 
Is this week, we will be hearing

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from mr. 
Rommel who is the owner, CEO and

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founder of the points. 
Retreat, we talked about her 

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journey to developing and 
starting up her business as well

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as what she's really providing 
for healthcare workers. 

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Hers, who are burned out and 
really need to get away and 

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reset their lives, their 
careers, her Retreats offer, 

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really good, reset to kind of 
getting back to why we do what 

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we do. 
She really does want to bring 

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not just health and wellness 
together which she does, she has

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a big focus on continuous. 
Glucose monitoring Mossad 

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healthy eating but she also just
wants you to leave with a 

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renewed sense of why you got it.
To health care. 

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listening to the podcast. 

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And let's dive into today's 
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I'm ready. 
Hi Christa. 

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Welcome to the doctor nurse 
podcast. 

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I'm so excited to give you this 
conversation. 

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I really want you to just Take 
it from the top and actually the

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top being. 
What is your current job title? 

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What do you do for a living? 
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thanks for asking. 
So I currently run a health and 

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wellness Retreat Center. 
So my exact title is CEO 

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co-founder and co-owner of a 
retreat center in northern 

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Minnesota and at a retreat 
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We host some General Health and 
Wellness Retreat, for those 

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looking to improve their overall
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And chronic disease. 
Live a great in particular, 

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second half of life and then we 
also host a number of retreat 

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specifically for healthcare 
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background where we offer 
continuing medical, education 

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credits and really focus on 
helping healers heal thyself. 

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So, giving nurses doctors npa's 
the whole gamut and opportunity 

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to say I matter. 
My health matters and it's okay 

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that I take time to take care of
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I That company in 2017. 
It actually used to be a family 

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property that we then kind of 
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retreat center but that was 
catapulted by some of the things

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we were talking about before we 
hit record which was having an 

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abundance of time in my focused 
on the impact that lifestyle 

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medicine and functional 
medicine, can have an improving 

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health and that was really 
unexpected juncture in my career

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in healthcare. 
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bedside did a number of 
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From ICU Telemetry. 
Med-surg spent about seven eight

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years of the bedside nurse, but 
pretty quickly into my cursor to

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just shift into different 
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hospital to supervisor of our 
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Healthcare System to being the 
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endocrinology for local, 
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Twin and added Health Care 
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and through. 
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I thought people's so hungry for
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not just patients, but it was 
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were so burned out on 
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algorithm medications, that 
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dreaded, which was insulin. 
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medication. 
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that there are certain people 
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They need either in the interim 
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disease is that advanced, but 
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people to improve their health 
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nutrition, sleep, Stress 
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that they want to recommend 
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themselves back because they 
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enough about how to do it. 
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implement some programs through 
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I'm where we took patients and 
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like a local, a kind of 
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could work with a chef on, how 
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had endocrinologist there and we
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we really talked about the whole
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Because it's so interesting to 
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medication and then we're like 
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patients often times you're like
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eat erratically if at all. 
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the component of nutrition and 
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improving health and disease 
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And then we also talked about if
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time that. 
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I've got families involved, 
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Because changed as a solo, human
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I mean, change is hard all the 
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you have your family, if you 
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it with you, oftentimes that 
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So and Sandra as much as like, 
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like so accustomed to seeing 
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Really also very healthy to talk
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white walls of clinics and 
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it feels really relatable for 
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live, like, we do or have inside
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They need to know how to work in
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They need to know how to take a 
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take outside the box and then I 
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So, created, all of that up 
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different way. 
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retreat, the point, if their 
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take classes on health and 
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nutrition. 
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different things. 
You offer that would like CME 

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credits and stuff. 
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you, I am so grateful the 
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most of my career with in terms 
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traditional medicine, they have 
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they have been so gracious in 
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for yoga for meditation for 
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wellness chef and I think if 
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cool. 
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realized the rate of the rate of
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Center, it was there before the 
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So we've been doing this for 
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been easier to capture Health 
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leaders. 
Attention, because everybody's 

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like, I don't really know what 
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Everybody still going out and 
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fortunately, I'm healthy review 
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I spent most of my career with 
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supportive of giving providers, 
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how to practice, lifestyle 
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medicine, but also like just 
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So, usually, what's good for? 
Our patient is good for us for a

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long time, like it. 
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has to be for the patient. 
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professionals who are patients 
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We don't do something about it. 
Things you have for CME credits 

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which is great because it's 
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professionals to take time away,
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It's not always easy to get away
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family or your dirty work, long 
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So, we quickly saw the need for,
that should be kind of valued by

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also offering the CME credits. 
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you're describing in this 
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just time away from the hospital
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Nurse Practitioners Pas, other 
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really kind of isolate 
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Which is something that I talk 
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because I don't think that we 
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We spend a lot of time 
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distracted by life and family 
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And we don't spend enough time 
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It places of meditation spending
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connected with what we're doing.
And I know you've told me this 

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before but people have gone out 
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just been like I can't go back 
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attention, my soul was screaming
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And so I'm going to go back with
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going to go back into that same 
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I do want to kind of hear about 
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you've had with Health Care 
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kind of in that acute burnout 
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that your retreat has been able 
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Yeah and it's this the last year
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that have unfolded at the point 
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mindful to create a very safe 
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emotional fragile notice that 
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particular, has been really 
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We have one Retreat. 
I'll never forget this in our 

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introductions within the first 
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Not one health care. 
Professional can get through 

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without just breaking down. 
Sobbing, they finally felt like 

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they had a place. 
What I realized is they finally 

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felt like I had a place that 
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health matters being in a 
community of support matters and

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that just allow them to just 
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really intensely the last couple
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And we've had a couple of 
keynote speakers who really do a

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great job helping guide people 
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trauma, while finding gratitude 
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mindfulness and I had one nurse.
I'll never forget this. 

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She said, Krista this place is 
like a hospital for healthcare 

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professionals and I was like, 
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I love that. 
I just love Actually makes me 

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tear up a little bit as I'm 
saying that, but I don't think 

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the general population realizes 
what Healthcare professionals, 

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give it tends to attract a 
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someone who's gonna give 110% 
and they will often put people 

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others before themselves. 
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where it's like no this is you 
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else. 
And that is incredibly important

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not I mean for first and 
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that old saying right? 
Like we all hop on a plane and 

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took put your own oxygen mask on
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that's so hard to do in 
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is. 
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to their purpose of why I became
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because I think that's so easily
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It's always do. 
We have enough Staffing. 

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This patients coding. 
All of these other things that 

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we kind of sometimes disconnect 
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into it. 
And that's usually to make a And

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so a lot of people realize the 
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it's been so clouded by all the 
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So it's reconnecting to that 
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what I know I can do and how I 
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just like the student class, 
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need to eat and I don't need to 
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and the end of the day it leaves
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Little Health, little more to 
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fatigue, is so great. 
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If you want to come back and 
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we're kind of here just to be 
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medicine and Healthcare like I 
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right? 
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probably would have beat my head
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write a grant for that. 
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a grant for and I just finally 
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I think I can do more good in 
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say, we're going to learn and do
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ability to really change 
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underneath a corporation, you 
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created this, but you also took 
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that she got out and she's 
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game. 
You're not just getting a Out 

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and running on other people's, 
good graces and you're just 

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unicorns and ponies. 
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everything works out like, no, 
like you're taking the risk, 

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just like the Corgan ization is 
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they can't just let you do 
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because they don't want to risk.
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instead of being up underneath, 
someone who's going to tell me 

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what to do because they don't 
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I'm going to risk my livelihood,
my home. 

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I find It says, and I'm going to
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the hospital's can't do because 
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You need to feel. 
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man, she got out. 
Put your skin in the game and 

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you can get out. 
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maybe a listener is thinking, 
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a brownie and like things 
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What is She doing at these 
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go back and question their lives
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can give us like a rundown of 
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looks like if you can break down
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Most people spend, this is 
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I know that there are nurse 
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like, I'll take a week off. 
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what can I expect from this 
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I just wondered if maybe you 
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Yeah, and then we'll transition 
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I want to hear about a challenge
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putting your skin in the game. 
I know that someone that's like,

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oh, she got out like, you got 
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rainbows and butterflies and 
everything was great like you've

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had challenges. 
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So tell me about the retreat and
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challenge. 
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with the premise of at a client 
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And I was a little nervous to 
introduce it to a couple of 

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fish. 
Oceans who are going to be 

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keynote speakers at whenever 
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The first Retreat, we had was 
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pandemic, I should say. 
And I said came up with his 

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tagline. 
What do you think of it? 

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of sat there and looked at me 
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And they're like, we love it. 
Like you do. 

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Okay, that's nice. 
It kind of gives us that like 

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rise up and like that empowering
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we don't have to do and I I'm 
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Healthcare professionals because
I spent a lot of my leadership 

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career trying to be a translator
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Right. 
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lines do you? 
And I also value at leadership 

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Jazz and often. 
They're just speaking really 

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different languages but for 
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Hands-On care, it really just 
Empower them to say like my 

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health matters, my well-being 
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huge Focus for us these last 
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the pandemic and since March of 
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Healthcare professionals, if you
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Well, even though there's all 
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world inside Healthcare systems 
and how that looks in particular

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the last few years is oftentimes
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We'll start with a couple of 
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People can do yoga, or we have a
log garage Jam because at our 

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retreat center, it's all a big 
log buildings. 

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Kind of on this beautiful 
Peninsula, surrounded by lakes. 

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So you feel like you're in 
nature, Everywhere. 

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You Go including our gym so 
people can work out in the gym. 

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With the trainer who take yoga, 
class with a yoga instructor and

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then our Wellness chefs will 
have like this beautiful 

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breakfast spread and no, it's 
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It's all very healthy. 
Our chefs are very Versed and 

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creating healthy delicious 
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But I always like struggle when 
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they're just eating my tofu and 
bean sprouts. 

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I'm like no. 
Like these are like I'm 

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starving. 
You just even forget like that, 

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it's insanely healthy but 
because it's so delicious. 

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So, So good they did was they 
prepare three meals a day for 

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everybody there all five star 
we've so many gorgeous pictures 

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of that our chefs create on our 
website and its people in. 

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Like I think they just come for 
the food which is fair. 

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It's very fair. 
Sheffster that great. 

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And then we often do we have a 
variety of speakers? 

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So I speak on continuous glucose
monitors preventing chronic 

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disease, how lifestyle medicine 
can improve and functional 

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medicine can improve health and 
well-being and kind of go to 

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some of those foundational. 
I've like, we talked about 

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inflammation and glucose 
management. 

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So some of its really tangible 
relatable science data 

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experiential. 
I'm wearing everyone gets a 

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glucose monitor at a lot of our 
Retreats so they get to see how 

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things are impacting their 
health. 

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Like really stressed, what 
happens when I eat a good meal? 

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What happens if I do? 
Work out versus not, you get to 

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experiment with all that and 
then we also have a lot of great

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keynote speakers that come in 
and focus on how do you process 

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trauma and how do you create 
healthy goals for yourself? 

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How do you get back to 
mindfulness and gratitude and a 

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time of deep stress and 
Brokenness. 

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So we have psychologists to 
leave this. 

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We have Physicians who read this
done a lot of work in and around

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self-care. 
And so we have like this huge 

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gamut and so we kind of break it
up into different small groups 

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or larger groups. 
When I say large groups, it's 

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usually like 30, 35 Max. 
So it's kind of an intimate 

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group, you get to know each 
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Like right in front of the 
presenter in the speaker to ask 

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questions and engage and our 
setting is really different. 

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I mean, sander. 
You've probably been to like, 

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over 100 CMEs, we are in a hotel
conference room, right? 

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Angles? 
So, therapist. 

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And we're like this. 
It's just the thought of it is 

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so draining me. 
I thought it was just raining 

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me. 
I'm like, yeah. 

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Our siding is very different, 
urinal big, log cabin and 

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there's a fire going, and we're 
like, where your baseball cap 

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put on your yoga pants. 
You don't? 

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Care, like, drink coffee, drink 
a tea, sit there and learn and 

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then after you don't let people 
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few years. 
I'm like, hey, let's go and take

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a hike. 
Let's go out on the water and 

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kayak or paddleboard or like 
let's move for a little bit and 

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then come back and oftentimes 
our Shuffle have another 

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incredible meal and or they can 
hop in the kitchen with the 

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chefs, actually get CME credits 
for taking a culinary class with

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them, where they go through from
the oils that you use at the 

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beginning of your cooking. 
Experience to the things that 

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you table off your avocado 
brownie with and everything in 

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between about how you can kind 
of fall back in love with 

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cooking and culinary experiences
but make it doable, right? 

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Like our chefs, make it really 
attainable and something that 

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they can translate to like, oh I
could do this at home and we do 

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some more conferences. 
Sometimes we'll go out. 

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Take like a sunset pontoon ride 
and have a little dry Farm 

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wines, which is a lower sugar 1.
Yeah. 

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And we have done so many things.
We had a another physician come 

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in. 
She's Dynamite. 

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She's written a book on Forest 
bathing, she's an OB but did you

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say forest bathing bathing? 
Yes. 

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So it's this practice of going 
in and she's really used it for 

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clinicians experiencing burnout 
and she actually works part-time

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at deepak's Retreat centers to 
but she let us through the 

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process of forest bathing which 
is really tapping into all of 

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your senses and how you can buy 
the practice of being in nature.

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Take all your senses from a 
sympathetic state to Our 

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sympathetic State and she 
actually is part of our national

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park system. 
She's also medical director of 

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all trails and she helps people 
figure out how to write nature 

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prescriptions for naturally. 
There's actually a prescription 

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you can write for nature therapy
and Forest bathing. 

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And it's so cool. 
So, I mean, we have so many 

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different things. 
We usually close the evening 

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with a soundboard meditation. 
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take the sound was outside. 
We kind of gather around this, 

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beautiful fire, everyone lays 
down, you're looking at up but 

455
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,000
obviously, Or just pine trees 
with the Stars just above and we

456
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,600
have a couple of sound both 
therapists who just play this, 

457
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:12,300
beautiful sound Bowl meditation,
which would take people down 

458
00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:18,500
into a very deep relaxed State. 
And I mean we just it's it's 

459
00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:20,800
honestly, I have to sometimes 
after you've worked in a 

460
00:24:20,808 --> 00:24:23,100
hospital setting every now and 
then I'll have this moment where

461
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:24,800
I look around. 
I'm like, this is my new 

462
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,700
hospital. 
Like this is my new place, like 

463
00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:32,900
this is so exciting and I'm so 
happy to see We do practice the 

464
00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:38,500
obviously a lot of learning, but
it it's so personal and it's so 

465
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,100
impactful and it's so 
meaningful. 

466
00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:44,500
That Even our education 
sessions. 

467
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,800
Feels like a 180 from what most 
clinicians are used to 

468
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,600
experiencing. 
And then we do a lot of 

469
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,200
experience alone this because 
what good is learning it, if you

470
00:24:52,208 --> 00:24:55,600
don't practice it, right? 
Like do it, like learn it and 

471
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,800
live it. 
So we give people an opportunity

472
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,800
to really do both in their time 
They're so, yeah, it's really 

473
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,100
fun. 
Everyone is a little bit 

474
00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:05,700
different, but part of our Core 
Curriculum is we always have 

475
00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:08,400
these five things for people to 
experience themselves. 

476
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,800
Which also benefit their 
patients, which is sleep 

477
00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:14,800
Community restoration movement 
and nutrition. 

478
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:18,200
So you will always experience 
the gamut of those. 

479
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,200
Whether it's a two-day or four 
day or five day Retreat, those 

480
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,800
will always be immersed into the
experience and then kind of 

481
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,400
depending on the retreat topic. 
People can learn and experience 

482
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,000
many others. 
Things to hearing you talk about

483
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:34,600
what goes on there. 
I could just see being 

484
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,700
underneath the Stars, having the
really cool holes and the 

485
00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:42,500
background just creating that 
Ambience of just peace and 

486
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:45,500
tranquility. 
And it's just kind of again, 

487
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:48,600
just quieting your soul and 
seeing what floats to the top 

488
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,200
and what what themes or thoughts
or feelings. 

489
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,400
Just you give space for those 
things. 

490
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,300
And yeah like I kind of got 
emotional just like thinking 

491
00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:01,300
about like oh my God, how much? 
That would comfort the soul, 

492
00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:03,900
regardless of like, what your 
religious background is, 

493
00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:06,600
regardless of like, what your 
political all that other stuff 

494
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,500
is, meld, all that stuff away, 
because it's just overwhelming 

495
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,000
and just really, just quiet down
this part of yourself that you, 

496
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,900
you don't really give a lot of 
space for my no more nurses. 

497
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:21,900
Want that as well. 
And again, you didn't wake up 

498
00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:24,400
one day and have this Retreat. 
Somebody didn't just walk over 

499
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,600
and say, like, here's all your 
dreams on a silver platter. 

500
00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:30,500
You had to fight for this. 
You said, you're not Against the

501
00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:33,200
system because you were that 
person that was translating. 

502
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,700
What leadership needs to have 
done to the people. 

503
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:39,500
But you know they've been some 
challenges along the way. 

504
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,800
Could you describe may be a time
that you really had to fight for

505
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,300
what you believed in or had to 
overcome something that you're 

506
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:49,500
like? 
This is so scary and you just 

507
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:51,500
fought through it to get to the 
end. 

508
00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:55,200
Hey guys, thanks for listening 
to the podcast. 

509
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,200
I hope you're enjoying the 
conversation. 

510
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,200
I want to take a second to 
remind you guys to join the 

511
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,400
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list. 

512
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:07,600
Weakly I send out emails about 
podcast episodes blogs and 

513
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,000
creating with information about 
nursing motherhood, Finance 

514
00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:15,500
health and wellness. 
How to build side hustles. 

515
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:18,500
It's all there. 
I want to provide nurses with 

516
00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:21,900
information that I'm gleaning. 
As I grow my business, and my 

517
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:23,400
podcast. 
Let's get back to the 

518
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,600
conversation. 
Yeah, it's a great question 

519
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,000
because being an entrepreneur is
not something I don't, even if I

520
00:27:29,008 --> 00:27:32,000
took a business class in my 
undergrad, I should lie. 

521
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,800
I'm like so being an 
entrepreneur is a whole nother. 

522
00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:38,900
Yeah, unique challenge, a very 
rewarding one. 

523
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:42,500
But there's I mean I could spend
hours talking on the podcast 

524
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:45,400
about like what it means to be 
an entrepreneur and, and that is

525
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,300
something I've definitely grown 
a deeper appreciation for I look

526
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:51,000
at people now we started 
something round up and like, 

527
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,700
blown it up and I'm like Oh my 
gosh, like I can't even imagine 

528
00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:56,900
what that took you because I'm 
doing something a little here 

529
00:27:56,900 --> 00:28:01,100
and it's like a lot. 
So I will say, I want to go back

530
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:03,000
to one other quick thing that 
you mentioned, Sandra. 

531
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,100
And interestingly enough and I 
guess this probably flows into 

532
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:08,400
the principle of what happens at
the point. 

533
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,900
Retreats is I initially left my 
leadership position, Health Care

534
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:16,000
to take care of my dad 
full-time, who is terminally ill

535
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:20,600
and I after it took me stepping 
out. 

536
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:23,100
And even though I'm still caring
for somebody, In a very 

537
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:28,100
different circumstance leaving, 
Healthcare gave me kind of a 

538
00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:31,800
backwards view of what was 
happening in healthcare, right? 

539
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,900
So that process of just stepping
out for some significant time, 

540
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:37,000
gave me a different lens that 
which I could look through. 

541
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,400
It was still with so much 
admiration and Beauty, but that 

542
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,500
process of doing and being 
somewhere, different helped 

543
00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:49,800
catapult me into saying, okay, I
can go a little further with 

544
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,900
this, right? 
And I had I mean, I learn 

545
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,700
everyday. 
I mean, I almost like a big 

546
00:28:56,700 --> 00:29:00,600
lesson that comes when we got on
a regular basis, some of them 

547
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,300
are hard. 
Yeah, so I would say, just 

548
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:09,600
looking at life, as it's been in
the last few years, the, it was 

549
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:13,900
challenging to figure out how to
get a group of 30 to 40. 

550
00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:17,300
Nurses, Nurse Practitioners, 
doctors, and peace, who are 

551
00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:21,300
coming from here. 
I see all over them, right. 

552
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:25,400
And everybody's Ideas around 
creating a safe space. 

553
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,500
Safe space looked a little 
different, right? 

554
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,900
So I had to navigate, like, do 
we have people test? 

555
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:35,500
Do we check vaccine cards? 
Do we wear masks? 

556
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:39,100
Do we just do? 
I mean, how do we gather people 

557
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:40,000
safely? 
Right? 

558
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,800
But still make this a really 
profound experience. 

559
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:50,100
And honestly, I really what I 
first and foremost is obviously 

560
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:53,200
making sure everybody's health 
and well-being is Acted. 

561
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,300
But second part of what I want 
to offer is a space where people

562
00:29:57,300 --> 00:30:01,800
can leave all of that behind and
that was really hard to find us 

563
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:04,600
a spot in the middle to do that 
the last couple years. 

564
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,200
And I thought I just kind of had
to like hold my ground and trust

565
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,800
me, I had a lot of different 
opinions for rolling around me 

566
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,600
about it like you should be 
doing this. 

567
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,700
You should be doing that, or 
this is too much for, that's not

568
00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:18,700
enough and I had to just like 
literally at times go outside 

569
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:20,500
make around to myself and be 
like Krista. 

570
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,200
You're doing 30 people as safe. 
As humanly possible here. 

571
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,300
But you're also giving people an
opportunity to tap into 

572
00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:31,800
something that distances 
differences them from that 

573
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,800
because that's their life all 
the time right now. 

574
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,700
And they actually I really saw a
need for people not to ignore it

575
00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:40,000
because it was a huge part of 
what people had to release 

576
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:46,000
process but not make it this 
thing that was like, this 

577
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,500
constant like gosh, almost like 
a battle wound. 

578
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:50,500
So they were just, like, 
carrying all the time. 

579
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:52,700
It was like, he had. 
Yeah, I just, I gotta pick Her 

580
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:55,700
of like, like a weight, like 
carrying this constant weight, 

581
00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:58,700
like a yoke around your neck, 
that just caught some of you 

582
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:01,500
constantly have to drag or like 
one of those guys that are in 

583
00:31:01,508 --> 00:31:04,100
those silos where you're like, 
arms and your head and just your

584
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:07,000
head is like sticking out and 
you're like, stuck in this thing

585
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,500
that you have to drive that 
around. 

586
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,500
It's exhausting and I like, I 
agree with you. 

587
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:13,800
I think what you're saying is 
people are burned out from 

588
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,800
having to be hyper-vigilant, 
right? 

589
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,200
Like there's a hyper-vigilance 
that you can only keep up for so

590
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:25,100
long and it's crazy because You 
you get burned out from not 

591
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:28,300
being able to stay vigilant 
forever because just like, I 

592
00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:31,000
can't live like this. 
Like I can't constantly be in 

593
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,100
this state of fear with every 
single thing that I do and 

594
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:38,900
second-guessing it over checking
and cleaning and wiping down and

595
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:42,900
masking, it does begin to wear 
on your soul in a way that you 

596
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:46,700
just you kind of get used to it.
But then the moment that you're 

597
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:50,100
like wait I can drop all this, 
you just realize how heavy that 

598
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:52,000
yolk has been that you've been 
carrying. 

599
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,900
So I Hear exactly what you're 
trying to do. 

600
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:55,500
You're trying to keep people 
safe. 

601
00:31:55,500 --> 00:32:00,300
But also just let people drop 
that yolk for a period of time 

602
00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:03,900
to get a break and rest from it.
Yeah, that's a really hard hard 

603
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:04,900
thing. 
So what did you end up? 

604
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:12,000
Finding that was actually kind 
of wondered initially when we 

605
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:17,500
relaunched Retreats 20, early 
early 2021, if initially kind of

606
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:19,600
that Healthcare professionals. 
Be like, the last people have a 

607
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,300
common, but, ironically Sandra, 
they were the first people like,

608
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:24,900
not, At the door. 
Like, help us like we need a 

609
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:28,000
place to go like we don't need 
any more pizza parties or 

610
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,300
doughnuts for at it. 
Like we need a place like a 

611
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:33,400
respite really. 
So we just worked through it. 

612
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,700
And of course, as the world like
changed constantly during these 

613
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:39,400
last few years, we tried to 
morph with it respectfully and 

614
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,900
appropriately. 
But we also really did want 

615
00:32:41,900 --> 00:32:44,600
people because we saw the trauma
that, that broad right for 

616
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,500
people. 
Whether but in the world, you 

617
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:49,600
think it's necessary or not? 
It's, it was really traumatic. 

618
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,000
But Healthcare professionals 
went through and and Giving them

619
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,700
a space where they could work 
through that, right? 

620
00:32:56,700 --> 00:33:00,400
And it's hard to work through 
something if part of what was 

621
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,600
causing trauma is there, so we 
had to follow you. 

622
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,500
Yeah, Eiffel got so and and 
everybody came to feel like the 

623
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:10,700
whole world, right? 
Everybody came from a little bit

624
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:14,100
different place. 
So we somehow navigated through 

625
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:19,300
it like just shy of a miracle I 
guess I would say but our team, 

626
00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:22,300
we really supported each other 
and our keynote speakers to. 

627
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:25,900
We Truly mindfully and just had 
really great conversations 

628
00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:28,200
around it. 
And so it was not the end of the

629
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,700
day I had to stay grounded in 
like, okay. 

630
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:32,800
Here's what we're going to stand
on it but it was a collaborative

631
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,100
effort of our whole team, 
really, bringing a lot of 

632
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:39,700
different great perspectives. 
So we have a dynamite group of 

633
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:44,400
Health and Wellness. 
Experts from rekey to massage to

634
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,200
health and wellness. 
Shafts to mindful coaches, just 

635
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,600
psychologists to Physicians to 
nurses. 

636
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,300
And we just have this, like, 
phenomenal team of people that 

637
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:54,700
come. 
Together and made the last 

638
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,600
couple years. 
Incredible. 

639
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,000
Interestingly, yeah. 
So and how often do you do your 

640
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,400
Retreats? 
Is it like three times a year or

641
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,800
five times a year? 
Good question. 

642
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:08,400
And obviously, this last couple 
years was just a little bit 

643
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,699
different because we kept our 
spacing our numbers down. 

644
00:34:11,699 --> 00:34:14,400
So we had a little bit more 
space in other room for people, 

645
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,400
which we have a lot of that. 
Anyways, but we really extra 

646
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,800
mindful of that, you know, the 
last couple years we had about 

647
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,600
six to seven years. 
They are now moving forward, 

648
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:28,300
will hope to have more but we're
also looking to reach out not 

649
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,000
going to obviously to healthcare
professionals and Health Care 

650
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,500
system. 
So but Healthcare professionals 

651
00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:36,500
have their own unique stressors 
for certain. 

652
00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:39,400
But what we have found is we 
started to get these calls from 

653
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,699
people. 
Like I'm a teacher, like, I need

654
00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:47,100
this to, or I'm preventive is or
I'm in an office and you need 

655
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:48,900
this. 
I mean there are so many other 

656
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:52,500
industries that also really need
these same principle. 

657
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:56,300
So we're also going to spread 
her wings a little bit and open 

658
00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:59,400
up more opportunities for 
additional professionals and 

659
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,100
people to come in because 
burnout is so prevalent across 

660
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:06,500
the world right now, everybody 
needs effort. 

661
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:08,300
Yes, yes. 
And well-being. 

662
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:12,200
So we are going to hopefully 
have more World, allowing will 

663
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,000
have more in the year ahead for 
healthcare professionals and 

664
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,500
Beyond and then it is so 
fantastic. 

665
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,400
We have other groups in between 
our Retreats that will come. 

666
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,500
In and rent the space and host 
their own events to. 

667
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:30,600
So we we have a great space that
we want to see more people have 

668
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,700
the opportunity to use it and 
experience it because humans are

669
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:36,200
humans are humans. 
No matter what you do and most 

670
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,700
of us need the same thing. 
That's really what part of 

671
00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:42,900
business has been may be the 
most challenging for you to 

672
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:45,400
master coming from your nursing 
background. 

673
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:49,100
And what have you found has been
the easiest because you are a 

674
00:35:49,107 --> 00:35:52,200
nurse and your background is in 
nursing. 

675
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,900
So What has been the most 
challenging that you had to 

676
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:58,400
master and then what has been 
the easiest transition because 

677
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,700
of your nursing background. 
That is a great question. 

678
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:04,300
I love that question. 
Okay, most of Channel, I just 

679
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:05,800
thought about it. 
I was like, I didn't let you 

680
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:11,700
prepare for this so sorry. 
So I had a father with a great 

681
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:14,700
deal of business Acumen, so he 
was like this business 

682
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:18,600
Superstar, right? 
So I washed him function and run

683
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,400
a company and do really well in 
a business operation. 

684
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,000
And Leadership standpoint. 
I learned a lot from him, kind 

685
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,900
of by osmosis and observation 
but without actually falls on 

686
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:34,200
your shoulders, I was like I 
haven't done a piano like I 

687
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,400
haven't. 
I mean, I've done a lot of 

688
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,300
leadership things like managing 
a team and leaving, people was 

689
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:43,200
easy ish for me like all the 
details business elements that 

690
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,700
are needed to run a business or 
challenge. 

691
00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:47,400
We're challenging, still are 
challenging. 

692
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,900
To be honest, I still have to 
really think about them and rely

693
00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:54,500
heavily on other people. 
And our accounting team and I 

694
00:36:54,508 --> 00:36:56,700
like it going backwards. 
Irish are taking some more 

695
00:36:56,700 --> 00:37:00,000
business classes and in my 
Master's, a leadership that 

696
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,500
leadership was a big Focus but 
again and not like operations of

697
00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:05,600
running a business. 
And when you're a smaller 

698
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,700
business, you kind of have to 
wear a lot of hats. 

699
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:10,900
Like I wish I could have a CFO, 
would be awesome. 

700
00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:12,800
That's not in my budget. 
So, yeah. 

701
00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:16,600
You just have to figure out and 
do a lot on your own and that's 

702
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,200
been a huge Challenge. 
And, and I'm going to beg to 

703
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,800
say, most people in healthcare 
haven't had a A lot of us even 

704
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,800
leadership courses. 
So that's been the biggest 

705
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,800
challenge. 
But here's the cool thing about 

706
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,200
why, I think nurse and 
Entrepreneurship, I don't know 

707
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,700
if there's another profession 
that has more great than nursing

708
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,800
really truthfully, like, so much
great. 

709
00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:45,900
I mean, we as a, as a profession
will do whatever it takes to 

710
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:49,200
make sure our patients are well 
here cared for, and I don't know

711
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,300
if the general population 
understands what that means, but

712
00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:56,000
you And it means like the to be 
easy things. 

713
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,900
We see crazy things, we hear 
crazy things. 

714
00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:03,700
We absorb a lot from the 
healthcare system from the 

715
00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:07,700
patients, from their families 
from our colleagues, and what I 

716
00:38:07,707 --> 00:38:10,500
have yet to see a nurse who does
not rock a shift. 

717
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:13,700
And make sure that like, 
everything is as good as it 

718
00:38:13,700 --> 00:38:17,300
possibly can be given that 8, 12
16 hours, whatever. 

719
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:20,900
They're they're working for so 
that grid that same grit that it

720
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:24,700
takes to get through. 
The clinic day or a hospital day

721
00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:27,900
is the same grit will take you 
to get through a day as an 

722
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:31,200
entrepreneur. 
And I have some good friends who

723
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,500
are now who are nurses, who are 
now running their own 

724
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:36,500
independent businesses, and I 
see it all the time and it's 

725
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:40,500
like, it gives me like great joy
just to share that nursing 

726
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:44,900
camaraderie of like, dang were 
strong like stronger than. 

727
00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:47,700
Yeah, sometimes give ourselves 
credit for and maybe stronger 

728
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:53,100
then is recognized right. 
So there's a lot of Jillian, 

729
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,100
determination great in every 
single nurse segment and I've 

730
00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:00,900
got pulled on really deeply but 
that's I think that's the 

731
00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:05,400
greatest gift and the greatest 
asset of being a notch, a nurse 

732
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,400
entrepreneur. 
And at the end of the day 

733
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,500
Sandra, I mean, we you can 
appreciate this also is probably

734
00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:13,500
a lot of people can, we've had 
some really crazy days happen. 

735
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:16,200
Like, you don't run a retreat 
center and have everything go 

736
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,400
perfectly like. 
We've had water leaks or the hot

737
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,500
water heater. 
Go out or the oven stop working 

738
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:22,800
or something. 
Something's not Going right? 

739
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,300
And when we have 50 people that 
are arriving in two hours, I'm 

740
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:29,200
like oh no panic mode. 
And then I have to stop and I'm 

741
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,800
like Krista. 
And like you've liked run codes.

742
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,200
You had like people almost died 
revived people, you had family 

743
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,200
members make death threats to 
positions, you've had nurses 

744
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,000
walked out on the job. 
I'm like nobody's dying here the

745
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,300
cube like we'll figure this out,
nobody's died. 

746
00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:47,800
So it gives me a different 
perspective. 

747
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,800
We just good and I just kind of 
maybe a little that's with my 

748
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,100
God. 
That's my Absalom. 

749
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,100
Yes I do a lot of business 
people like I'm going well, 

750
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:57,600
nobody's dying this time, but 
doesn't the first? 

751
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,000
You just have a different 
perspective. 

752
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,100
Like nobody's fallen out of 
their bed when he's all those 

753
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:03,600
things, right? 
But you three inches in her 

754
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,300
starts taking out there any of 
the year and pulled out their NG

755
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:08,700
tube. 
It's like I can handle a broken 

756
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,000
water heater. 
Yes. 

757
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,500
Well said, I love that and I 
agree with you 100% that there 

758
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:19,000
is a resiliency in nurses and 
almost every nurse now, it's not

759
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,300
a blanket statement and it's not
one fits all some people just 

760
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:24,900
don't don't have what it takes. 
But I feel like if you've been 

761
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:29,000
nursing for any period of time, 
you have made it, you have 

762
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:34,000
resiliency to start something on
your own and continue to fight 

763
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,700
and push to see a completed to 
work through all the issues. 

764
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,100
I love that perspective of no 
one's dying. 

765
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:43,300
And that is something that I 
talked to my husband about, to, 

766
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:45,800
about his job. 
And I'm like, did anybody die? 

767
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,900
Nobody died. 
So you're fucked like it. 

768
00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:50,900
So, it's true though because we 
legitimately have that 

769
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:55,000
perspective at our jobs. 
Like people do do pass away and 

770
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,500
that is something that is a very
present, real, real and present 

771
00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:02,700
danger every point of our jobs. 
And so again, like I used to 

772
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:06,300
have dreams that I would have 
never checked on my patient, the

773
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:08,700
entire shift and the patient had
died in the room and I never 

774
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:10,200
like it would be a nightmare I'd
wake up. 

775
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,700
Like, how was I? 
So negligent, I never went into 

776
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:15,600
the patient's room and I never 
had done that, but it was just 

777
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,500
constant real fear that I would 
just never go into the room and 

778
00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:21,800
find the patient not alive. 
And so again, I just feel like 

779
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,500
when you do To put it in 
perspective and you do weigh it 

780
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:28,300
against things, you can look at 
a situation and just go, I could

781
00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:30,900
do with this, it's fine, it's 
just neat, we can just keep 

782
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:35,100
going and then also I feel like 
nurses are so Innovative and be 

783
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:39,200
able to create things to help 
them in moments, that they're 

784
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,000
short and nurses were so Geared 
for entrepreneurship because you

785
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,700
are able to just create things 
on the whim, be resilient stay 

786
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:49,600
in the fight. 
So I guess we're the last 

787
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,200
question is, if you go back to 
Krista when she is Just started 

788
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,500
off in her career. 
She was a baby nurse and she was

789
00:41:56,500 --> 00:41:59,300
working all those different jobs
Cardiology saw that you were in 

790
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:01,000
Ortho. 
You've been in Primary Care. 

791
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,500
Cardiac Care, you've done all 
the things. 

792
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,000
If you could go back to her and 
let her know one thing about her

793
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000
career that you would want her 
to keep and wanted piece of 

794
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,400
advice, you'd wanted to toss and
say, hold on to this throughout 

795
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,800
your whole career. 
Don't let it go. 

796
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,200
Don't ever lose sight of this 
and then one thing that you 

797
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,600
would tell her and don't you 
dare listen to this? 

798
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,300
Gosh, it's such a great 
question. 

799
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,500
One really good question. 
And I love your answer to the 

800
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,200
entrepreneur part of the last 
question to an innovation. 

801
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,900
Like that was great. 
I love that. 

802
00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:32,500
Such a great point. 
In terms of nurses, were 

803
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:34,700
considering being entrepreneurs 
or our. 

804
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,600
I love that. 
This is a good question. 

805
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,100
I haven't been asked that one 
before, but I would say no 

806
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:44,000
matter what you do, as a nurse, 
I really believe in the sounds a

807
00:42:44,008 --> 00:42:46,600
little cliche that like, you 
really make a difference. 

808
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,700
And I think that difference 
initially, when I started 

809
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:55,000
nursing and I did my EMT And I 
did some extra emergency 

810
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,700
medicine training because I 
thought I was going to be a 

811
00:42:56,700 --> 00:42:59,100
flight nurse and I thought I had
to do like this. 

812
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,400
These really big interventions 
to make a difference in 

813
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,800
someone's life. 
Like the like the bigger the 

814
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,000
better, right? 
Yeah. 

815
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,400
Serious the better. 
The more dramatic, the more, the

816
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,800
better. 
And what I found in my career is

817
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,100
often, it was like those little 
soft things that really like 

818
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,100
that actually was what really 
made a difference in somebody's 

819
00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:22,300
day or the family's day and 
those are taught in yours. 

820
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,300
Sing school and some things you 
have to experience. 

821
00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:26,700
It can't be taught everything. 
Like, you have to figure them 

822
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:30,400
out on your own and my first 
couple of years of nursing are 

823
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,800
so focused on clinical 
intervention of what I was doing

824
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,900
that. 
I maybe didn't Focus as much on 

825
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:38,900
the soft skills that were 
needed. 

826
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,600
And then I started having more 
opportunities where I was like. 

827
00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:44,200
I mean of course you have to do 
the things right? 

828
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,700
Like have to hide hang IVs and 
get the medications and change 

829
00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:51,100
the wound dressings above it. 
It was the moments where I 

830
00:43:51,107 --> 00:43:55,400
stopped to have the Relations or
listen to somebody or address 

831
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,700
somebody's deepest, concerns or 
let them release something that 

832
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:01,600
they've been holding onto, and 
we're worried as they approach 

833
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:06,900
to surgery, or death, or those 
were the moments that like made 

834
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:11,400
a huge impact in someone's life.
So I guess if I could, as a 

835
00:44:11,408 --> 00:44:13,800
nurse, you're going to always, 
always, always make a 

836
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,300
difference, no matter what 
you're doing. 

837
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:17,900
Like I can just tell you if 
you're nursing, you are making a

838
00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:20,900
difference, but don't let go of 
those soft skills. 

839
00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:24,500
I mean, it's kind of Of, almost 
like this full circle, right? 

840
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:27,900
Of an icy clinicians 
professionals meeting at the 

841
00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:30,300
point Retreat. 
So they just need someone to 

842
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:33,600
genuinely care about them and 
care about their well-being, and

843
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,100
our patients need that to they 
at. 

844
00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:37,900
So it's kind of goes back to 
that. 

845
00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:40,200
We all kind of need the same 
thing at the end of the day, 

846
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,600
right? 
And it's just being listened to 

847
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,200
being understood having someone 
care how we're doing, on the 

848
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,600
outside, and on the inside, and 
giving us permission to take 

849
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,500
care of both. 
And I wish I knew that a little 

850
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:54,100
bit earlier on in Career. 
But again some things you just 

851
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:58,700
have to learn on your journey 
and so yeah it's kind of that 

852
00:44:58,700 --> 00:45:01,500
whole spectrum of it doesn't 
always have to be the biggest 

853
00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:03,400
intervention to make the biggest
impact. 

854
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:06,100
Yeah. 
Yeah sometimes less is more. 

855
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,500
The things that you think are 
going to be making a huge 

856
00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:13,000
difference or sometimes a little
things and it's not even in 

857
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,900
marriage. 
I mean, we can apply that to 

858
00:45:14,908 --> 00:45:17,100
almost anything in any 
relationship. 

859
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:20,500
It's the little things. 
It's my husband making me coffee

860
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,000
and he's like I got coffee for 
you. 

861
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:22,700
No more. 
My God. 

862
00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:25,600
Thanks like it's a cup of coffee
but it's that. 

863
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,100
Yeah, exactly. 
But it's the thought of like, 

864
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:31,400
he's taking care of me and he's 
doing the little things to show 

865
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,300
that he cares and so, yes, he 
could do big things, big 

866
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:36,400
gestures. 
I'm not gonna like turn it away.

867
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,700
Like new diamond earrings are 
flowers and I'm not going to be 

868
00:45:39,707 --> 00:45:41,800
like, no, I don't want that. 
But I'm just saying when he 

869
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,100
makes me a cup of coffee. 
I feel loved and stuff, honey. 

870
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:47,000
I'm if you listening, you can do
that stuff. 

871
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,300
I just feel most loved your cup 
of coffee. 

872
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:53,200
So yeah and I get, I don't think
there's anybody Doesn't intend 

873
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,100
on urgent, wish they had time to
do all of those but just find 

874
00:45:57,100 --> 00:46:01,200
that if there is that moment 
right for anybody it's it's an 

875
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,800
opportunity that we will 
sometimes pass up quickly 

876
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,200
because we don't think it's 
relevant but sometimes it has a 

877
00:46:07,207 --> 00:46:10,200
bigger impact like, I know but 
you Sandra but I can think of a 

878
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,000
couple of patients in particular
where they were carrying 

879
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:18,100
something really heavy inside. 
And I'm sure I missed to this 

880
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:21,800
many times that these particular
few stop saying you, hey, it 

881
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,000
seems like There's something 
more that you want to share or 

882
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,000
that you need and and I don't 
want to miss it and then they 

883
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,900
let go of whatever it is that 
you and and I was like wow. 

884
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,300
Like that was a lot to hold onto
for a lot of years and I can see

885
00:46:36,300 --> 00:46:40,600
where yeah the fear and the 
stress that you were carrying 

886
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,300
are impacting you and very 
profound ways. 

887
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:47,400
So letting them release that was
important and important for 

888
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,100
their gear important for the 
right. 

889
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:52,200
Yeah. 100%. 
That those are all things that 

890
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,100
Again, was why nurses can never 
be replaced by robots and no one

891
00:46:56,100 --> 00:47:00,700
else can do this job but a nurse
and it is imperative that 

892
00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:02,900
nurses. 
See their value at the bedside 

893
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:05,800
because and to be compensated as
so as well. 

894
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:11,500
Because it is something that if 
you are well and if you are well

895
00:47:11,500 --> 00:47:15,100
inside, you could have these 
moments where you look and see 

896
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,700
that someone suffering or that 
someone is going through 

897
00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:20,100
something. 
And that is something that a 

898
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:24,700
robot dispensing meds can I'll 
never do because it requires a 

899
00:47:24,707 --> 00:47:27,000
level of empathy that we learn 
in school. 

900
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,500
The ability to really sit with 
people in these hard times of 

901
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:34,200
being in the hospital and not 
being well and really get into 

902
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,500
that space with them that I 
believe brene. 

903
00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:39,400
Brown talks about in her 
different books that I've read 

904
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,700
about empathy and what that 
looks like and sitting in those 

905
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:45,900
dark spaces with people. 
Nurses get access to those spots

906
00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:50,400
all the time and we are invited 
into really stuff spaces with 

907
00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:53,100
with with nurses and so 
Summarize. 

908
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:57,500
You would say, hold on to the 
little things that you're doing 

909
00:47:57,700 --> 00:47:59,800
and what would you say for 
someone to toss? 

910
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,400
So you would say, don't listen 
to this piece of advice because 

911
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,800
I just don't think it matters or
it's not going to be as big of a

912
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,600
deal. 
If I don't know if you touched 

913
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,100
on, maybe I missed it. 
But what did you say? 

914
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:11,100
Would be a piece of advice. 
You would just say, don't listen

915
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,500
to this. 
Okay, we go back to that and 

916
00:48:13,508 --> 00:48:16,400
honestly like know your value 
kind of what you hit on but I 

917
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,400
think nurses often need that. 
Reminder. 

918
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,000
It's like we all know it 
intrinsically, right? 

919
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,000
But we aren't always. 
Ways, externally validated in 

920
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,200
that and some biscuits two 
things come to mind, 

921
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:30,000
occasionally, although I think 
it's becoming less and less to 

922
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,300
be like, weird, just the nurse I
want to hear what the doctor has

923
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:34,300
to say. 
I'm kind of laughing because I'm

924
00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:36,300
like, but you have occasionally 
as a physician. 

925
00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:40,900
I believe in the family too. 
Could you explain that to us? 

926
00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:42,300
Can you help us understand in my
chair. 

927
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,200
So there's a great language and 
skill set clearly that is deeply

928
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,600
respective, The Physician 
population and and the mid-level

929
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,800
providers and in Arcing. 
It's like don't devalue your 

930
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,800
skill set. 
Don't evaluate yeah. 

931
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,400
Equally as important as every 
other person and I don't care if

932
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,100
you have a two-year four-year 
six or eight year 10, I don't 

933
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:04,100
care how long you got to 
college. 

934
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:08,700
I mean it's just you have yep, 
deep value and nobody can take 

935
00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:11,500
that from you and don't don't 
let anybody take that from you 

936
00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:15,200
because I see that happen a lot 
and Healthcare systems. 

937
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:20,100
And and then the other thing 
would would be just dream. 

938
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:23,800
Big like in nursing to you like 
Like I honestly I have a 

939
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,200
daughter who I just dropped off 
at College who's going to now go

940
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,800
into nursing and I'm like, 
honey, like it is a fast and far

941
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,200
and wide. 
Like there's a million things 

942
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,100
you can do. 
So don't feel like you have to 

943
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:37,500
lock into like I can just do 
this. 

944
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,100
That's the beauty of the 
profession. 

945
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:43,600
Is, you can do 20, 30 plus 
things in your career or you can

946
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,400
stay in your one specialty, and 
that's okay too, but it's 

947
00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:49,900
awesome. 
That like, you can do so many 

948
00:49:49,900 --> 00:49:51,200
different things. 
Agree. 

949
00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:55,800
Beautifully said, The different 
things and honestly, like loved 

950
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,800
them all just different phases 
of life and different things 

951
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,800
calling you. 
And it's great that you can 

952
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,000
pursue that in your career. 
So I would say two nurses, like 

953
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:12,100
if you're someone who wants to 
experience do try like go do it 

954
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:13,700
and and don't hold yourself 
back. 

955
00:50:13,900 --> 00:50:16,000
So that would be my other piece.
Nice. 

956
00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:18,700
That's very good. 
So for the last part of the 

957
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:20,500
interview, it's the rapid fire 
questions. 

958
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,500
So are you ready? 
Let's do it. 

959
00:50:24,500 --> 00:50:25,500
I thought you probably don't 
eat. 

960
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:27,300
So I was going to ask you a 
pizza question but I don't even 

961
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:29,900
know what do you eat pizza? 
Okay, well, not okay, what's 

962
00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:34,200
your favorite holiday because I 
do but it's not that often and 

963
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,500
it's gluten free to be like, oh 
this is so boring. 

964
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,900
It's gluten-free. 
I like the last thing I just 

965
00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:44,400
made is I use the venison basil 
tomato as no cheese and 

966
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,200
gluten-free crust and we made it
in our wood fire sister girl 

967
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,000
just so good he's really nice so
good. 

968
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:51,800
Yes. 
Is that sounds good? 

969
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,100
Sign me up for some of that I 
would love to just do you 

970
00:50:54,100 --> 00:50:56,300
Chicago deep dish every day 
because I actually would that 

971
00:50:56,300 --> 00:50:58,300
would be great. 
That would work for me. 

972
00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:02,000
Then I will be able to live to 
be 80 and I will be super 

973
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,600
unhealthy and like not able to 
get out of here. 

974
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,600
I'm making a choice 100%. 
Yeah, it doesn't mean. 

975
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,400
I don't think us to find 
different things. 

976
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,200
I like English that are just 
better healthier. 

977
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:15,400
Yep, I do the same because my 
knee would flare up really bad. 

978
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,600
My portal? 
There would be an like covered 

979
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,900
in eggs, IMA. 
And so, yeah, we're like, as 

980
00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:23,200
much as I would love to eat. 
Eat, regular gluten full pasta. 

981
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,700
I mean not pasta. 
I'm, I love all the alternatives

982
00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:30,800
to Pasta now that I eat but like
gluten free, I wouldn't Laden 

983
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,300
Pizza. 
I would just be punished for it.

984
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:35,600
I'm like, bam. 
Okay, I'll pass this is not 

985
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,800
funny anymore and then oh, I 
feel like because you're at this

986
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,100
beautiful Retreat. 
Like what's your favorite 

987
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:43,400
season? 
Like and the retreat? 

988
00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:47,400
Good question. 
I love fall in Minnesota. 

989
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,800
It's so beautiful. 
It's like comfort. 

990
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,700
Temperature, like a little bit 
of monies were just like orange 

991
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:57,200
red colors all over. 
It's so pretty. 

992
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,300
But I'll tell you that 
interestingly enough there, we 

993
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:03,700
treat season that people tend to
come the most to is Venture, so,

994
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:06,800
really, yeah. 
Which is very interesting in 

995
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:07,800
Minnesota. 
She's sick. 

996
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:12,500
Yeah, it's cold. 
Yeah, I feel like, but maybe 

997
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:16,700
it's again just that like, the 
atmosphere like quiet, calm is 

998
00:52:16,700 --> 00:52:19,900
something about winter. 
That is like slowing. 

999
00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:24,500
It's just a Be like yeah, it's 
just like chill it. 

1000
00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:26,900
Maybe like the cold Retreat. 
I think you guys do like, cold 

1001
00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:29,600
plunges and stuff like that, you
guys to cool plunges we do. 

1002
00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:31,300
Yeah. 
And that actually is really. 

1003
00:52:31,300 --> 00:52:37,000
Yeah, last winter. 
So yeah, we did some interesting

1004
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,600
things, and it is so peaceful 
Winters, beautiful, but I'm 

1005
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,200
always intrigued in. 
It's like that wasn't Retreats. 

1006
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,800
That are like waiting list. 
Oh my gosh. 

1007
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,500
It's so interesting to me, but I
love it. 

1008
00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:50,300
I mean, it's great. 
Very cool. 

1009
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,500
He's so I would imagine it'd be 
beautiful. 

1010
00:52:53,500 --> 00:52:57,100
Yeah, for sure, Krista thank you
for coming on and chatting with 

1011
00:52:57,100 --> 00:53:00,400
my listeners and sharing 
everything that you've gone 

1012
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,000
through and building this 
business of yours and as a 

1013
00:53:04,008 --> 00:53:07,500
nurse, like the challenges that 
are specific and unique to 

1014
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:12,000
nursing and how you've overcome 
them with the simple and more 

1015
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:16,200
complex elements of business and
combining that with nursing and 

1016
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,800
figuring out how to do something
to help impact the lives of not.

1017
00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:25,800
It Just other patients, nurses 
and PAs and doctors but also 

1018
00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:28,800
expanding out to teachers and 
office workers. 

1019
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,300
Anybody that just needs space to
rest and relax and to learn 

1020
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:34,700
about how to care for their 
bodies. 

1021
00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:36,800
You're making a bigger impact 
than you would ever. 

1022
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,400
Realize then you were in those 
moments at the hospital, you 

1023
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,600
even have more impact. 
Now, that's further reaching 

1024
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,500
that people go back to their 
jobs or back to their homes and 

1025
00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:49,100
back to their perspective areas 
and they're different from the 

1026
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:51,400
time that they spent at your, 
Treat. 

1027
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,300
So it is far reaching the 
tentacles of change that you're 

1028
00:53:55,300 --> 00:53:59,100
able to do with what you've done
with what you've built. 

1029
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:01,000
So it's very inspiring. 
So thank you. 

1030
00:54:01,300 --> 00:54:02,800
Yeah. 
Thank you for having me. 

1031
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,900
And thank you for having this 
platform to it's so needed. 

1032
00:54:05,900 --> 00:54:09,600
I mean what a beautiful gift. 
You are giving our profession, 

1033
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,900
right? 
Just to continue to push them to

1034
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,500
be the best they can be and not 
a self limit. 

1035
00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:19,700
And just embrace all that the 
nursing profession and Health 

1036
00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:22,800
Care Professionals can An 
experienced do be give. 

1037
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,500
So thank you for that. 
Thank you. 

1038
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:28,500
And guys, thanks for tuning in 
to this week. 

1039
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:32,400
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All her places that you can find

1040
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,200
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1041
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:46,600
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1042
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,700
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1043
00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:53,600
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00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,400
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00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,900
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00:55:13,900 --> 00:55:16,600
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00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,200
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1052
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,500
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1053
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:25,500
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1054
00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:28,700
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1055
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,500
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1056
00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:34,400
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