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Hi and welcome to another 
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podcast. 
I am so happy. 

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You decided to join me today. 
My name is Sandra Penta, and I 

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am the host of the podcast. 
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nurse practitioner who wants to 
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Today we have such a special 
guest Jackie. 

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King is a board, certified 
family nurse practitioner, and 

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she's been working In Obstetrics
and Gynecology for 15-plus 

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years. 
And she is the founder of the 

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perfectly pregnant Collective, 
which is an online education 

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series that prepares extend 
mothers in their journey to 

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Motherhood. 
She's also some equipment Devers

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involving being on Airbnb as a 
super host, owning short term 

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rental. 
She's So, recently, launched her

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Etsy Shop success in p, and we 
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That is my Etsy Shop partner and
we are just enjoying creating 

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digital digital downloads and 
things on the internet to 

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support nurses. 
In her free time, she enjoys 

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spending time with her husband 
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Just boys, that are just so 
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She's got the cutest little 
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So yeah, welcome, Jackie to the 
podcast. 

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Thank you. 
I'm so excited. 

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Thanks so much for having, yeah,
for sure, for sure. 

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I'm sure. 
So we wanted to just again just 

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chat. 
We've been friends for how long 

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Jackie friends my longtime. 
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University of Florida. 
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What's not date ourselves too 
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ago that so, oh my goodness. 
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Yeah, jeez, yes, yes yes. 
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So, yes, as you can hear, guys, 
we've been friends. 

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Long time. 
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all of our endeavors that we 
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shop together but I want to hear
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Jackie kind of take me through a
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you've been doing and all the 
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Yeah sure. 
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went to nursing school together 
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then after that, after 
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home to Miami and just like all 
of your podcast guests say They,

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they did not go into med-surg 
and they wanted to Specialty, 

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which is what I did, I did labor
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And so I started labor and 
delivery and work there for a 

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few years. 
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also went back to school, to get
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become a family nurse 
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Once I graduated there, I kind 
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and to women's health. 
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Health, so that my passion for 
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Still working part time, I do 
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and a private practice and then 
I round and Hospital for my 

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postpartum patients, kind of 
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them there as well. 
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You've got your foot in the 
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Clinic work because I think a 
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think have to be grandfathered 
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You're a family nurse 
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Yes. 
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All these down here, know, like 
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of years back, they did 
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We had to be an acute care nurse
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Beyond medical staff. 
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I know. 
No, and Women's Health that got 

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grandfathered in so it's pretty 
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So, tell me a little bit about 
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got going on, but that's the 
thing that's, I find the most 

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inspiring about your whole 
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just simply doing something 
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income. 
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So I love what I do but I think 
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kind of itch for a little bit 
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support or your it aside and you
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So this last year, has really 
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I feel like my year of 
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into the whole side, hustle 
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earlier, I started my perfectly 
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that online on-demand education 
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I was doing 121 childbirth 
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was nice but also had some cons 
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You know, you're sitting there 
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and you know pregnancy brain, 
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information and so you know, it 
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but I feel like the on-demand 
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because Because you can 
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portions on your own time and 
it's pertinent to whatever 

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you're going through, you know? 
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education childbirth education 
cesarean section prop because I 

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feel like that's overlooked and 
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never think you're going to have
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the labor room. 
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have a C-section. 
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well like what to expect in the 
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You know, breastfeeding 
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newborn procedures. 
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trading, post partum. 
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can kind of break up into 
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as needed basis, or at your own 
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So I did develop that. 
So, that's really fun. 

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Yeah. 
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to do that? 
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were to the hospital. 
It's not like you woke up with 

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this knowledge of, like, how to 
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So, what did you end up? 
Do to, you know, for that nurse.

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That's like, oh wait, I have 
knowledge. 

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How do I put that into a course.
What did you do? 

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Absolutely, yeah. 
So I actually took took an 

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online course to teach me how to
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So I did that and that actually 
helped me. 

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Learn the tools. 
You know, the the tools I need 

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to create the course how to do 
it, how to Market myself, I type

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of thing how to make it passive,
right, because that's the big 

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thing is 121 was taken away a 
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and so the online aspect makes 
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I can provide that link for you 
if you like up onto the show and

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yeah you can have your ear. 
That would be great if people 

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can tell me a little bit. 
About your Airbnb because you've

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recently just in the last couple
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and you've been kind of running 
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recently getting super host 
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So, yeah, brag a little bit. 
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husband, I have always loved 
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Like our first house was a 
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Our current house is a 
fixer-upper and we do all the 

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projects basically ourselves. 
So we enjoy that and we always 

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knew we wanted to like expand 
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Estate portfolio but Miami real 
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really hard down here. 
So anyways, I happened to come 

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across Healthcare professionals 
or real estate, the Facebook 

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group, and a kind of joined that
kind of started looking at what 

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was going on there. 
And a lot of people are doing 

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what's called, short term, 
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Airbnb. 
So I kind of piqued my interest 

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when I think I could do that. 
These people can do it. 

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They're working health care 
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I'm working, Healthcare job. 
I think I might be able to do it

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so they still have a group, 
they're on Facebook, they're 

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still doing weekly Zoom meetings
and I would go to every single 

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week. 
The meeting because I would have

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a different gas then. 
I was listening to all the 

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podcasts that I could get my 
hands on. 

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I was reading, you know all the 
things they tell you to do when 

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you're interested in something, 
I was doing all of it and then 

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last year, we ended up getting a
short-term, rental of actually, 

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out of state and Alabama. 
So we managed it remotely and 

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it's been going really well. 
Yeah, it's really, it's 

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definitely not passive. 
It's not past them like the 

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online course, too much. 
And there's a lot of involvement

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that goes into it, but if I can 
manage it from Miami while 

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working part-time, I mean, there
is some passive aspect. 

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There as well. 
Sure, sure. 

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And you've been doing the Airbnb
for how long now. 

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So we have we went live in March
so we're not quite a year. 

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Last December. 
Yeah, 11 March. 

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So, whenever you were going to 
these pot, you're listening to 

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podcast episode. 
You were just consuming 

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ferociously how to launch this, 
you know, Airbnb. 

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What are some of the takeaways 
that you felt like as Healthcare

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Providers is, was the easy part 
to get into it? 

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Perks that took a lot of time 
for you to kind of develop for 

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someone that's interested in. 
Okay, well she's here. 

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She is course developing and 
she's in are be. 

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I'm a little more interested in 
the air being part. 

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How we're did you kind of how 
did you get started in that 

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sense? 
So for me, the analyzing the 

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financial aspect of it was the 
hardest part probably like 

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seeing what property would 
provide me my best return. 

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Luckily my husband is also my 
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vacation. 
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extra touch and everything you 
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say, hey I'm here if you need 
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hosts and having to return and 
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Is that what you're noticing? 
People are coming back. 

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haven't been live since a year 
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to come back and you just get 
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I'm a little bit more personable
with yes it's been fun. 

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You meet a lot of people from 
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It's been really fun. 
That's really cool. 

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meetings, and gold, and yeah, 
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Hey listen. 

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Once again over time it'll just 
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your reputation precedes, you 
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place is great. 
You've got to stay. 

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There you go word-of-mouth. 
Share it. 

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to take it from everybody. 
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your NP P which is our Etsy shop
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was like, I want to help with 
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business. 
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through, what does what made you
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and then I can come in with what
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Yeah, so I don't know. 
I just I love, I love purchasing

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things, I'm at Sea, so I hope 
you'll love. 

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It was always kind of My Little 
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Etsy as he shops. 
So did that and then, you know, 

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there's a huge market for 
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mean, they're super useful and a
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just like art, but resources 
study guys, I mean, you name it,

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you can create it, you know. 
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nurse practitioner students, 
nursing students just healthcare

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providers in general, right? 
So have have resources available

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to them. 
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that's why I wanted to join in. 
You had because of my work on 

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the podcast and like creating 
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I have got a little bit of a 
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yeah, I'm Startin kind of really
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that and when I saw like, oh my 
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Like can we develop stuff? 

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And can I help like, you know, 
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enjoyed getting to again create 
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want and I use rnp count. 
I do too. 

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Yeah, I use it, I use it every 
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Yeah, I've been I right in there
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haven't checked out our shop, we
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couple things since we decided 
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created a jaded calendar, as 
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that? 
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every year we would pray, I 
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to like keep my life organized 
every single year. 

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I would just go about finding 
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the stickers and you buy all the
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You sit there and you're like 
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pieces together and then just 
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there's this digital space where
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Like creates like a, put it on 
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your iPad and just erase it and 
you can add on and, you know, on

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a paper planner, I would always 
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it and my God, man. 
I don't stick up for that and 

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like, you know, just stuff like 
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And then again, like I said, 
nothing was ever tailored to my 

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profession? 
It was always just, you know, 

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kind of, you know, random stuff.
It was never a generic. 

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Yeah. 
It was generic exact. 

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Yeah, when you and I were 
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was like, I think this would be 
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I think that again I think other
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this as well. 
And so it's neat for the Etsy 

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shop to kind of. 
It's almost like the world is 

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your oyster. 
You can just create endlessly 

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and then just posted and just 
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what we're thinking would be 
valuable like, what do you 

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think? 
Yeah, getting feedback on that. 

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So, what, what else have we 
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Just recently, we created 
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We did guys and thanks for 
listening to another episode. 

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The doctor's podcast unscripted 
Like to take this time to let 

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you guys know about the doctor 
nurse podcast, website on this 

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website. 
I have free resources for nurses

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that are looking to up their 
career, maybe start a side 

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hustle. 
I also have my Etsy shop where 

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I've created really cute digital
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practitioners in regards to 
life, pregnancy planning, as 

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well as portraits guys. 
Check out my resources at the 

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doctor's podcast.com and let's 
get back to the episode. 

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We just started doing some 
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Nurse practitioner or health 
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You know, I recently had a nurse
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with me. 
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loved it. 
I framed it gave it to her and 

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she was super taken aback by it.
So I'm all about the 

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personalized gifts. 
Yes. 

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Like keepsakes. 
I think they mean so much to the

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recipient so and it's fun for us
to create it, you know. 

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Yeah, we've done that. 
We've done the planners. 

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Yeah, there's a lot of, a lot of
stuff, we have a lot of stuff 

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coming up to that, we're going 
to be interesting. 

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So the shop yeah, study guides a
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Like, I wouldn't call it a study
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Maybe more like a notebook, 
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Specialties kind of an 
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That's coming up in the months 
to come. 

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Yeah. 
And then, one of the things I 

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like about the portraits to is 
that like we're making them 

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individualize, so you can 
request to have like, hey, my 

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besties graduated from nursing 
school. 

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I want to give her something 
that will be like something 

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encouraging to her. 
And again, like you just 

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download you. 
Let us know like what you want. 

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We build it out for you and then
we ship you the digital all 

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download and then you can use it
as much as you want. 

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You could print it up for her, 
put it in the frame, it like you

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can just do whichever, right? 
And yeah, it's just such a cute 

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thing and I was showing my mom. 
She's like, oh my God, this is 

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so cute. 
I was like, I know, isn't it? 

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Like it's mom's accident that 
you make for her. 

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It's pretty flat on to her. 
Like I was in trouble and I was 

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like, mocking her whatever and 
she said, okay, first off, 

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that's a really good accent 
better, stop, okay. 

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And so it was just hilarious. 
This moment with my mom wears 

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and then for our last Endeavor 
that were in Turkey, are you 

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tired? 
Because I'm tired, just 

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listening, but I feel like 
people are gonna think we're 

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making this up at this point. 
I know rustling rustling mothers

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are that was gonna believe that 
we have families and children. 

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So the other thing that were 
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going back to the creating 
content part, we're also part of

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and be Hub, which is Is 
something that we're going to be

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rolling out as well, booklets 
with them and their company. 

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And it was just kind of crazy 
when I interviewed Krish. 

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For the podcast, I shared with 
him that we were creating these 

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booklets, which are again, 
they're going to be launching on

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her Etsy Shop. 
You guys can definitely check 

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them out when they finally 
launched. 

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But yeah, we were chatting with 
him and he had said, oh wait a 

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minute, what are these booklets,
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him, and he really wanted to get
on board. 

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So we're creating a whole 
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workbooks for them. 
As we are kind of rolling out 

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stuff with our Etsy shop. 
So if you have anything, you 

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want to speak on that or so, I 
think they're really a valuable 

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resource for students that are 
either rotating in the clinical 

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specialty and you kind of don't 
know what your to expect. 

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You can get a leg up on the 
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in that office, you have to 
remember that clinical rotation 

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is like an interview. 
So you want to be prepared, you 

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don't want to be blindsided, 
not, they have to know 

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everything, but you're going to 
be super impressive. 

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If you can know a little bit 
right, or at least have your 

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hands on resources, Has to know 
the answer to a question and it 

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in so that it's nice to have it.
If you're also transitioning 

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from student to actually being a
health care provider because you

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know, a lot of that is learning 
on the job, right? 

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So you may have Dinah labor and 
delivery rotation, but now 

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you're on the labor and delivery
unit and you don't even know 

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what you're doing. 
So use that as like, a reference

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tool, a refresher, you know, my,
I just think it's wonderful. 

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Like, I wish I had something 
like this when we were in 

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school. 
Yeah. 

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You know, sure. 
Because I just felt like I was 

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always winging it. 
Like, Ever had a cheat sheet, 

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you know, it's so that's kind of
what we're creating a cheat for 

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nurses and nurse practitioners 
that are that's, it's 

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aesthetically pleasing. 
So, like, you're in your 

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nursing, if your nurse being 
your nurse practitioner 

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rotation, you're in RN and you 
want something before you go to 

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clinicals, just, you know, your,
your Peds rotation from a nurse 

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practitioner side, you'd be able
to release happen to this 

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resource and immediately got a 
like, okay? 

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I got these things under my 
belt. 

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I'm not so green and so I think 
that I think it'll be a really 

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Nice thing that we're providing 
for the students. 

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And then, also, on our Etsy Shop
will have that throw your whole 

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career. 
I know there's been highs and 

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there's been lows throughout 
your process. 

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So, could you tell me about a 
time that's been a real struggle

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as we've been, creating all 
these side hustles, doing all 

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these jobs and again balancing 
motherhood and also balancing 

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your career would have been some
moments that you're just like, 

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I'm not gonna make it. 
I can't do that. 

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Yeah, that you've been able to 
overcome when I first became a 

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nurse practitioner the first 
nurse Her job. 

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I I was offered, I took it, 
right? 

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And it was a toxic environment. 
It was it was really bad and I 

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was second-guessing my decision 
to go back to school. 

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And why did I do this? 
I should have just stayed as an 

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RN and so that was that was a 
low for me, but every time a 

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door closes, another one opens, 
it's so true because when that 

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door closes another door open, 
and I could just see how 

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unhealthy that first job was and
how I, you know, meant to have a

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healthier position now fast 
forward to all these side 

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hustles. 
It is a Challenge, right? 

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If I have three boys and I do 
work part-time, but that's three

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days a week and being, you know,
a mom is a full-time job. 

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And so it's a lot to take on but
I think if you can really manage

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your time well and remember why 
you're doing it and try not to 

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let the lows of maybe not an 
overnight success because if 

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nothing's overnight, right? 
Everything is a work in 

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progress. 
It's not let that get you down. 

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I think that, you know, you're 
only going to go up from there. 

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Yeah. 
And it's been one of the things 

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that I have also noticed, is 
that sometimes when you look at,

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The whole elephant, it's 
daunting. 

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You're like, there's no way I'm 
going to eat this outfit. 

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This is nuts. 
Yeah, my God. 

449
00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:07,400
Yeah. 
Why am I eating? 

450
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,800
Why? 
Why, why am I easy outfit? 

451
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,800
Okay, all right. 
Yeah, that's that's of course it

452
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,000
always is going on in the back 
of my. 

453
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,900
Yeah. 
And then again I just tell 

454
00:22:17,900 --> 00:22:21,400
myself, just take the next step,
just take the next step and that

455
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,200
all toil brings about a profit. 
So it's just crazy that like 

456
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,900
again, you and I were just 
creating this digital stuff for 

457
00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:29,500
my podcast, you repeating it for
you. 

458
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,300
Lets you shop. 
We were both kind of creating 

459
00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:35,500
stuff and then it was like, Hey,
listen, like do you want to join

460
00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:37,400
together? 
And I think that's been a really

461
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,200
nice Jen because it keeps you 
motivated. 

462
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,800
When you're with someone like I 
don't want to let your partner 

463
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,000
down. 
Your partner's won't let you 

464
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,600
down. 
You're also like communicating 

465
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,300
you're talking about it. 
You keep each other encouraged 

466
00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:49,800
kind of just hard by yourself 
you know. 

467
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,400
Like it really is that it is. 
Yeah. 

468
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,700
And then once you get somebody 
else that's kind of like no no 

469
00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:56,700
I'm grinding to like let's grind
together. 

470
00:22:56,700 --> 00:22:57,500
Like yours. 
Yeah. 

471
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:58,900
Do it. 
Okay. 

472
00:22:59,000 --> 00:22:59,900
All right. 
She's All right. 

473
00:22:59,908 --> 00:23:02,500
And, you know, sometimes like 
you'll say later, I don't know 

474
00:23:02,508 --> 00:23:04,100
how you do all that. 
I'm like, Jackie, I don't know 

475
00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:07,700
how you do all that, like 
children, it's so it's just nice

476
00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:10,200
to see bielsa to relate to 
someone. 

477
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,200
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah. 
And we all kind of knew that we 

478
00:23:13,208 --> 00:23:14,400
were going to do something 
together. 

479
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,400
I feel like we always knew we 
were friends for too long that 

480
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,800
it's true thing together. 
I know, right? 

481
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,000
That funny ecology world and I'm
over in my women's health field 

482
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,900
but now here we are and our Etsy
shop. 

483
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,000
And again like you said, we're 
just, we want to create 

484
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,000
beautiful. 
Things for nurses because or 

485
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,600
nurse practitioners were 
noticing that like, we're kind 

486
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,200
of Miss, like, nurses are hit on
a lot. 

487
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,700
Like, there's a ton of content 
and stuff for nurses, but nurse 

488
00:23:39,700 --> 00:23:42,700
practitioners are just kind of 
like, I don't know, we kind of 

489
00:23:42,708 --> 00:23:46,100
get lost somewhere between a 
doctor and a nurse, you know? 

490
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,400
And so as we were kind of 
talking we're like, hey what do 

491
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,800
we need like? 
Why isn't somebody like 

492
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,500
targeting us with like cute 
stuff that we can use? 

493
00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:58,700
That is for us? 
And so I think that's what's 

494
00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:01,400
really special about Out, six 
SNP. 

495
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,700
Etsy Shop is that, this is like,
this is targeted nurse 

496
00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:06,400
practitioners. 
Like, that's what you want. 

497
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,400
That's our Niche that were 
really trying to invent and 

498
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,000
create content for. 
So we really encourage you guys 

499
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,600
to check it out and like, and, 
you know, just again, give us 

500
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,300
feedback to if there's something
that you want us to create, 

501
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:24,100
please message us. 
We are so open to creating for 

502
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:27,100
the need, like, tell us where 
the hole is, tell us where 

503
00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:28,300
something's missing. 
Yeah. 

504
00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:29,500
Alright, so for the last 
question. 

505
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,300
Russian of the podcast. 
I typically ask people you know,

506
00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:34,600
would something that if you 
could go back and tell Jackie 

507
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,600
you know when we first met in 
nursing school, 20 years ago, 

508
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,500
that's the ourselves 16. 
Give me those four years that 

509
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:42,400
you would have told her at the 
very beginning. 

510
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,500
What would you have said? 
Piece of advice, was not going 

511
00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:46,500
to say, I'm not going to say 
what everyone else says. 

512
00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:48,400
Even though it's true about 
Jasmine surge. 

513
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,800
Yeah, I think that if I think 
you need to know your value as a

514
00:24:52,808 --> 00:24:56,200
new nurse, I think a lot of 
times, even though I feel like 

515
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,300
it's moving away from it, 
there's a lot of the nurse 

516
00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:02,900
eating their young, So around. 
So now your value stand up for 

517
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:06,500
yourself and you're going to be 
just fine, you're doing just 

518
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:07,800
fine. 
What about it? 

519
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:12,100
A piece of advice that if they 
hear is garbage toss it, it's a 

520
00:25:12,108 --> 00:25:15,100
device that make here I think is
garbage. 

521
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:20,100
Yeah, garbage. 
Trash trash a lot man. 

522
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:24,600
Let me see something that you're
like, if you hear this, don't 

523
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,900
listen to it. 
Somebody tells you this don't 

524
00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:28,700
even pay attention to it. 
I don't know. 

525
00:25:28,700 --> 00:25:32,000
I just feel like Like follow 
your gut really because there's 

526
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,000
a meal of nurses that are going 
to teach you that it's always 

527
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,900
been done this way or just do it
this way and, you know, I just 

528
00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:43,000
follow your gut, follow your 
protocols, stay safe and just 

529
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,900
just, you know, that's 
especially as a new nurse. 

530
00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:47,800
I feel like you can get 
intimidated easily. 

531
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:50,700
So just stick with what, you 
know, asked a ton of questions. 

532
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:53,600
I mean, who cares if someone 
gets irritated hospitable 

533
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,400
questions, you know it's better 
to ask than do something. 

534
00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:59,100
Yeah, I agree. 
Yeah I think just following your

535
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,000
gut. 
You know, I think we sometimes 

536
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,400
Overlook what we feel kind of 
ignore it and being paranoid, 

537
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,200
but following your gut is 
important. 

538
00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:09,300
Yeah, I think one of the things 
that you and I have talked a lot

539
00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:13,300
about in regards to kind of 
looking back and thinking, you 

540
00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:18,300
know, we wish we would have 
developed side household sooner 

541
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:20,800
like, yeah, you and I could go 
back. 

542
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,700
Oh God, yes. 
You know what I'm saying? 

543
00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:25,800
Like we would have been 
hustling, you know. 

544
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,600
Yeah, 10 years ago, 15 years 
ago, but I do not like at the 

545
00:26:28,608 --> 00:26:31,000
different time. 
Now, I feel like I feel like it 

546
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,000
just wasn't a thing when we were
younger. 

547
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,700
You know, it's true. 
Its just, oh, you got a nursing 

548
00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:37,800
school. 
He become a nurse practitioner. 

549
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,300
And you work in the hospital. 
Yeah, no. 

550
00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:43,300
But I love how it's just 
expanding. 

551
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:45,700
Like you can we're seeing, I 
mean your podcast, right? 

552
00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:47,900
You're seeing all the ways that 
you can, you can use your 

553
00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:50,800
Nursing degree to do 
unconventional, nursing jobs or 

554
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,400
even think outside the box. 
Yes, it's great. 

555
00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:55,800
And the skills. 
Triplet like you said, like, 

556
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,900
absolutely caring for people. 
Oh, so what we do. 

557
00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:03,800
So you Totally be an Airbnb host
because just Channel your 

558
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,100
hospitality when somebody comes 
into your room. 

559
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:08,400
That's assigned to you and 
you're like, welcome to the 

560
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,100
hospital. 
Welcome to Mandy and I'm making 

561
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:14,600
money in a different way than to
do the things that I didn't ask 

562
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,300
but also it is. 
Again, I think our skills equate

563
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:21,600
to so much more that I feel like
when I went to school I was 

564
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,800
told, okay, so your skills, 
allow you to work on the 

565
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,400
hospital and do you think thats 
and also pass out meds? 

566
00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:32,700
No one told us that like no, no 
secret, like you don't realize 

567
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:36,900
that these skills play into 
biss, things like, you can use 

568
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:39,800
them to develop other things 
that could help you. 

569
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:43,600
When you do have three children 
and you want to go back time. 

570
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,800
And you're like, how do I make 
more income? 

571
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,300
It's like, oh honey, you've got 
so many more skills than you 

572
00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:52,000
realize. 
Like, let us show you how you 

573
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,300
know. 
So for the last part of the 

574
00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:59,200
interview Jackie, okay, the 
rapid fire questions, I saw your

575
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,900
son Music. 
Now was your very first job ever

576
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,200
CiCi's. 
Pizza, cashier. 

577
00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:07,000
I did not do. 
Yeah. 

578
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,900
Hi. 
Welcome to Theses was like 15 or

579
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:12,100
16? 
Yeah. 

580
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,900
Yeah. 
And then I did a lot of 

581
00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:16,900
babysitting after that and I 
think that job lasted six months

582
00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:18,500
and I was like, I'm not doing 
this. 

583
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:25,000
What is your favorite board game
or just like game that you like 

584
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,300
parent board game? 
Is I put trouble. 

585
00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:31,300
With the kids a lot. 
It's kind of that little pop 

586
00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:34,300
game that my kids are little 
still so they can. 

587
00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:36,900
Yeah, yeah, that's fine. 
Yeah, you know what? 

588
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:39,500
It's my favorite game that we 
play is when we beat our 

589
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,500
husbands when we go on our 
vacation, has we beat our 

590
00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:44,400
husbands on charade? 
Yeah, yeah. 

591
00:28:44,400 --> 00:29:00,000
Yeah. 
Okay. 

592
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,100
Okay. 
So, what was the last words you 

593
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:03,800
had to look up to see what it 
meant? 

594
00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:06,100
Oh God, that's Max. 
No, I'm just kidding. 

595
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:09,500
Yeah, I can't remember the word,
but somebody commented a man 

596
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:12,000
commented on. 
One of my Instagram posts, I had

597
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,700
to look it up because he felt 
like the male species was being 

598
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:18,700
attacked by my Instagram when 
Pope Instagram post had to look 

599
00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:20,900
it up. 
And I was like moving on. 

600
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:24,600
And I remember the word 
honestly, been one of the 

601
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,400
challenging things, as well as 
the posting on social media. 

602
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:31,100
Oh yeah, all that whole thing. 
That's a whole separate. 

603
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:32,600
Yeah, I know. 
Good job. 

604
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,000
Yeah, never set. 
Like, I know why people hire 

605
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,800
people to do that stuff. 
Yeah, just yeah, it's a manager.

606
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,300
It's like I don't even want, 
people are posting sometimes, 

607
00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:44,400
people are not kind, so it's 
just like better not to know. 

608
00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:47,500
Well, I think Norman, thanks for
coming on the podcast. 

609
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:49,700
Girl. 
I just, yeah, I just talking 

610
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:53,400
about what we're doing and what 
you're doing and where people 

611
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,400
can find you again. 
Just share your handles and so 

612
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,400
people that are listening can 
find out what Jack he's up to. 

613
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:03,900
To not perfectly pregnant 
Collective and I have a little 

614
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:06,700
Instagram profile there and you 
can find the healthcare. 

615
00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:09,900
Provider course that I took my 
link there as well and I'll 

616
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:11,300
share it with you two. 
And yeah. 

617
00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:15,100
All my side hustles are there. 
Awesome, awesome. 

618
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,700
Well, I will put it all in the 
show notes guys, check her out. 

619
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:26,300
Yeah, thanks for calling. 
Gee mom back. 

620
00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:32,300
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621
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637
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638
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639
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