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Today we have such a special guest Jackie.
King is a board, certified family nurse practitioner, and
she's been working In Obstetrics and Gynecology for 15-plus
years. And she is the founder of the
perfectly pregnant Collective, which is an online education
series that prepares extend mothers in their journey to
Motherhood. She's also some equipment Devers
involving being on Airbnb as a super host, owning short term
rental. She's So, recently, launched her
Etsy Shop success in p, and we actually heard this together.
That is my Etsy Shop partner and we are just enjoying creating
digital digital downloads and things on the internet to
support nurses. In her free time, she enjoys
spending time with her husband and her three bucks.
Just boys, that are just so sweet.
She's got the cutest little boys.
So yeah, welcome, Jackie to the podcast.
Thank you. I'm so excited.
Thanks so much for having, yeah, for sure, for sure.
I'm sure. So we wanted to just again just
chat. We've been friends for how long
Jackie friends my longtime. So we met an undergrad at the
University of Florida. So what was that?
What's not date ourselves too much, but I was about 16 years
ago that so, oh my goodness. Yeah, we were 20.
Yeah, jeez, yes, yes yes. Wow.
So, yes, as you can hear, guys, we've been friends.
Long time. So we are just decided through
all of our endeavors that we were going to launch her Etsy
shop together but I want to hear from the beginning.
Jackie kind of take me through a little bit about yourself what
you've been doing and all the hats are wearing, right?
Yeah sure. So like you just mentioned you
went to nursing school together at the University of Florida and
then after that, after graduating their I came back
home to Miami and just like all of your podcast guests say They,
they did not go into med-surg and they wanted to Specialty,
which is what I did, I did labor and delivery.
And so I started labor and delivery and work there for a
few years. And while I was working there, I
also went back to school, to get my masters degree in nursing to
become a family nurse practitioner.
Once I graduated there, I kind of went into private practice
and to women's health. I'm kind of never left Woman's
Health, so that my passion for my career still in it.
Still working part time, I do three days a week which is nice
and a private practice and then I round and Hospital for my
postpartum patients, kind of facilitate discharge and educate
them there as well. That's really cool.
You've got your foot in the hospital and you're also doing
Clinic work because I think a lot of nurse practitioners, I
think have to be grandfathered in like, with acute care crying.
You're a family nurse practitioner, right?
Yes. So I think it was a cut.
All these down here, know, like that's Nationwide, but a couple
of years back, they did transition.
We had to be an acute care nurse to round in the hospital and
Beyond medical staff. So we were 11 of three.
I know. No, and Women's Health that got
grandfathered in so it's pretty cool.
So, tell me a little bit about some of the other things you've
got going on, but that's the thing that's, I find the most
inspiring about your whole career, is the fact that you're
just simply doing something outside of your job to point
income. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I love what I do but I think there's always a time where you
kind of itch for a little bit more, you know, just kind of
support or your it aside and you just want something different.
So this last year, has really been.
I feel like my year of innovation I've No, just dived
into the whole side, hustle world and I like you mentioned
earlier, I started my perfectly pregnant Collective which is
that online on-demand education series.
I was doing 121 childbirth education for the pandemic which
was nice but also had some cons to it.
You know, you're sitting there for three hours with this couple
and you know pregnancy brain, you don't retain a lot of
information and so you know, it was it was nice to be in person
but I feel like the on-demand aspect is a little bit nicer
because Because you can actually, you know, just small
portions on your own time and it's pertinent to whatever
you're going through, you know? So the courses are prenatal,
education childbirth education cesarean section prop because I
feel like that's overlooked and a lot of the moms you know you
never think you're going to have one and then there you are in
the labor room. Someone's telling you about to
have a C-section. So we go over all of that as
well like what to expect in the case that you need it.
You know, breastfeeding postpartum recovery newborn
newborn procedures. And then just some pelvic floor,
trading, post partum. So there's a lot there that you
can kind of break up into different modules and take it on
as needed basis, or at your own pace.
So I did develop that. So, that's really fun.
Yeah. So, how did you figure out how
to do that? Because I know like, again, you
were to the hospital. It's not like you woke up with
this knowledge of, like, how to develop a course.
So, what did you end up? Do to, you know, for that nurse.
That's like, oh wait, I have knowledge.
How do I put that into a course. What did you do?
Absolutely, yeah. So I actually took took an
online course to teach me how to make an online course.
So I did that and that actually helped me.
Learn the tools. You know, the the tools I need
to create the course how to do it, how to Market myself, I type
of thing how to make it passive, right, because that's the big
thing is 121 was taken away a lot of my weekends with my kids
and so the online aspect makes it more passive.
I can provide that link for you if you like up onto the show and
yeah you can have your ear. That would be great if people
can tell me a little bit. About your Airbnb because you've
recently just in the last couple of years, picked up an Airbnb
and you've been kind of running that and you ended up just
recently getting super host title.
So, yeah, brag a little bit. So, you know, I mean, my
husband, I have always loved like renovation.
Like our first house was a fixer-upper.
Our current house is a fixer-upper and we do all the
projects basically ourselves. So we enjoy that and we always
knew we wanted to like expand our real estate.
Estate portfolio but Miami real estate is so expensive, so it's
really hard down here. So anyways, I happened to come
across Healthcare professionals or real estate, the Facebook
group, and a kind of joined that kind of started looking at what
was going on there. And a lot of people are doing
what's called, short term, rental also known as like
Airbnb. So I kind of piqued my interest
when I think I could do that. These people can do it.
They're working health care jobs.
I'm working, Healthcare job. I think I might be able to do it
so they still have a group, they're on Facebook, they're
still doing weekly Zoom meetings and I would go to every single
week. The meeting because I would have
a different gas then. I was listening to all the
podcasts that I could get my hands on.
I was reading, you know all the things they tell you to do when
you're interested in something, I was doing all of it and then
last year, we ended up getting a short-term, rental of actually,
out of state and Alabama. So we managed it remotely and
it's been going really well. Yeah, it's really, it's
definitely not passive. It's not past them like the
online course, too much. And there's a lot of involvement
that goes into it, but if I can manage it from Miami while
working part-time, I mean, there is some passive aspect.
There as well. Sure, sure.
And you've been doing the Airbnb for how long now.
So we have we went live in March so we're not quite a year.
Last December. Yeah, 11 March.
So, whenever you were going to these pot, you're listening to
podcast episode. You were just consuming
ferociously how to launch this, you know, Airbnb.
What are some of the takeaways that you felt like as Healthcare
Providers is, was the easy part to get into it?
Perks that took a lot of time for you to kind of develop for
someone that's interested in. Okay, well she's here.
She is course developing and she's in are be.
I'm a little more interested in the air being part.
How we're did you kind of how did you get started in that
sense? So for me, the analyzing the
financial aspect of it was the hardest part probably like
seeing what property would provide me my best return.
Luckily my husband is also my partner and it's all you helped
me a lot with that aspect to kind of find the perfect
property because That's the whole reason you get into right.
You don't want to get into a situation that you can hoard and
that's part of a side hustle to create passive income or
additional income so that for me was probably the hardest but
being a healthcare provider. The easiest part is probably
just being compassionate and having that Hospitality aspect,
right? We are certainly caring for
other people and that's really what it is.
And they are being people want to be cared for weather on
vacation. You know, putting that little
extra touch and everything you do and just reaching out and
say, hey I'm here if you need anything that came really easy
and that that has a lot to do. With a success of being Airbnb,
hosts and having to return and all that.
Is that what you're noticing? People are coming back.
Yeah, well I have had an in life you know it's a beach markets
haven't been live since a year but they're saying they're going
to come back and you just get better feedback I noticed when
I'm a little bit more personable with yes it's been fun.
You meet a lot of people from all over.
It's been really fun. That's really cool.
So it's kind of again, like expanding your network, your
meetings, and gold, and yeah, make it a little money on the
side. Hey listen.
Once again over time it'll just start to pick up and if you're
your reputation precedes, you and people are like no this
place is great. You've got to stay.
There you go word-of-mouth. Share it.
And yeah or maybe they won't because they don't want people
to take it from everybody. You know, side hostel is also
your NP P which is our Etsy shop that we've been working on
together. She developed first and I just
was like, I want to help with this endeavor, and grow this
business. And so, yeah, kind of take me
through, what does what made you decide to start your Etsy shop
and then I can come in with what made me want to join.
Yeah, so I don't know. I just I love, I love purchasing
things, I'm at Sea, so I hope you'll love.
It was always kind of My Little Dream on the side to open my own
Etsy as he shops. So did that and then, you know,
there's a huge market for digital Digital products, I
mean, they're super useful and a lot of aspects, you know, not
just like art, but resources study guys, I mean, you name it,
you can create it, you know. And so, I think how we kind of
came together is that we saw that there's a need there for
nurse practitioner students, nursing students just healthcare
providers in general, right? So have have resources available
to them. Ya know, I felt the same and
that's why I wanted to join in. You had because of my work on
the podcast and like creating Intent.
I have got a little bit of a skill with canva and I was like,
yeah, I'm Startin kind of really enjoy like creating things like
that and when I saw like, oh my goodness, she's doing this.
And that, and I was like Chucky. Like can we develop stuff?
And can I help like, you know, build and yeah, I really have
enjoyed getting to again create content that I feel like I would
want and I use rnp count. I do too.
Yeah, I use it, I use it every day.
Yeah, I've been I right in there and so for those of you who
haven't checked out our shop, we We actually have created a
couple things since we decided to link up, Endeavor, and we've
created a jaded calendar, as well as an undated calendar.
And people are, like, what a digital calendar, what do I need
that? But what's really great is that
every year we would pray, I would always purchase a plan are
to like keep my life organized every single year.
I would just go about finding this perfect planner and you buy
the stickers and you buy all the little pieces to it.
You sit there and you're like not just putting on the little
pieces together and then just begin realizing like putting
there's this digital space where you can.
Like creates like a, put it on your iPad and then, just go onto
your iPad and just erase it and you can add on and, you know, on
a paper planner, I would always make mistakes and have to erase
it and my God, man. I don't stick up for that and
like, you know, just stuff like that.
And then again, like I said, nothing was ever tailored to my
profession? It was always just, you know,
kind of, you know, random stuff. It was never a generic.
Yeah. It was generic exact.
Yeah, when you and I were thinking of stuff to create I
was like, I think this would be Be really, really good.
I think that again I think other people would want, you know,
this as well. And so it's neat for the Etsy
shop to kind of. It's almost like the world is
your oyster. You can just create endlessly
and then just posted and just say like hey, you know, this is
what we're thinking would be valuable like, what do you
think? Yeah, getting feedback on that.
So, what, what else have we created as well?
Just recently, we created something.
We did guys and thanks for listening to another episode.
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I've created really cute digital downloads for nurse
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We just started doing some personalized.
Nurse practitioner or health care provider portraits?
You know, I recently had a nurse practitioner student or rotated
with me. So I had created her one and she
loved it. I framed it gave it to her and
she was super taken aback by it. So I'm all about the
personalized gifts. Yes.
Like keepsakes. I think they mean so much to the
recipient so and it's fun for us to create it, you know.
Yeah, we've done that. We've done the planners.
Yeah, there's a lot of, a lot of stuff, we have a lot of stuff
coming up to that, we're going to be interesting.
So the shop yeah, study guides a lot.
Like, I wouldn't call it a study guide.
Maybe more like a notebook, like, a condensed notebook for
Specialties kind of an all-in-one type thing.
That's coming up in the months to come.
Yeah. And then, one of the things I
like about the portraits to is that like we're making them
individualize, so you can request to have like, hey, my
besties graduated from nursing school.
I want to give her something that will be like something
encouraging to her. And again, like you just
download you. Let us know like what you want.
We build it out for you and then we ship you the digital all
download and then you can use it as much as you want.
You could print it up for her, put it in the frame, it like you
can just do whichever, right? And yeah, it's just such a cute
thing and I was showing my mom. She's like, oh my God, this is
so cute. I was like, I know, isn't it?
Like it's mom's accident that you make for her.
It's pretty flat on to her. Like I was in trouble and I was
like, mocking her whatever and she said, okay, first off,
that's a really good accent better, stop, okay.
And so it was just hilarious. This moment with my mom wears
and then for our last Endeavor that were in Turkey, are you
tired? Because I'm tired, just
listening, but I feel like people are gonna think we're
making this up at this point. I know rustling rustling mothers
are that was gonna believe that we have families and children.
So the other thing that were involved in you and I again,
going back to the creating content part, we're also part of
and be Hub, which is Is something that we're going to be
rolling out as well, booklets with them and their company.
And it was just kind of crazy when I interviewed Krish.
For the podcast, I shared with him that we were creating these
booklets, which are again, they're going to be launching on
her Etsy Shop. You guys can definitely check
them out when they finally launched.
But yeah, we were chatting with him and he had said, oh wait a
minute, what are these booklets, you know, we'd explained it to
him, and he really wanted to get on board.
So we're creating a whole separate like collection of
workbooks for them. As we are kind of rolling out
stuff with our Etsy shop. So if you have anything, you
want to speak on that or so, I think they're really a valuable
resource for students that are either rotating in the clinical
specialty and you kind of don't know what your to expect.
You can get a leg up on the specialty before you step foot
in that office, you have to remember that clinical rotation
is like an interview. So you want to be prepared, you
don't want to be blindsided, not, they have to know
everything, but you're going to be super impressive.
If you can know a little bit right, or at least have your
hands on resources, Has to know the answer to a question and it
in so that it's nice to have it. If you're also transitioning
from student to actually being a health care provider because you
know, a lot of that is learning on the job, right?
So you may have Dinah labor and delivery rotation, but now
you're on the labor and delivery unit and you don't even know
what you're doing. So use that as like, a reference
tool, a refresher, you know, my, I just think it's wonderful.
Like, I wish I had something like this when we were in
school. Yeah.
You know, sure. Because I just felt like I was
always winging it. Like, Ever had a cheat sheet,
you know, it's so that's kind of what we're creating a cheat for
nurses and nurse practitioners that are that's, it's
aesthetically pleasing. So, like, you're in your
nursing, if your nurse being your nurse practitioner
rotation, you're in RN and you want something before you go to
clinicals, just, you know, your, your Peds rotation from a nurse
practitioner side, you'd be able to release happen to this
resource and immediately got a like, okay?
I got these things under my belt.
I'm not so green and so I think that I think it'll be a really
Nice thing that we're providing for the students.
And then, also, on our Etsy Shop will have that throw your whole
career. I know there's been highs and
there's been lows throughout your process.
So, could you tell me about a time that's been a real struggle
as we've been, creating all these side hustles, doing all
these jobs and again balancing motherhood and also balancing
your career would have been some moments that you're just like,
I'm not gonna make it. I can't do that.
Yeah, that you've been able to overcome when I first became a
nurse practitioner the first nurse Her job.
I I was offered, I took it, right?
And it was a toxic environment. It was it was really bad and I
was second-guessing my decision to go back to school.
And why did I do this? I should have just stayed as an
RN and so that was that was a low for me, but every time a
door closes, another one opens, it's so true because when that
door closes another door open, and I could just see how
unhealthy that first job was and how I, you know, meant to have a
healthier position now fast forward to all these side
hustles. It is a Challenge, right?
If I have three boys and I do work part-time, but that's three
days a week and being, you know, a mom is a full-time job.
And so it's a lot to take on but I think if you can really manage
your time well and remember why you're doing it and try not to
let the lows of maybe not an overnight success because if
nothing's overnight, right? Everything is a work in
progress. It's not let that get you down.
I think that, you know, you're only going to go up from there.
Yeah. And it's been one of the things
that I have also noticed, is that sometimes when you look at,
The whole elephant, it's daunting.
You're like, there's no way I'm going to eat this outfit.
This is nuts. Yeah, my God.
Yeah. Why am I eating?
Why? Why, why am I easy outfit?
Okay, all right. Yeah, that's that's of course it
always is going on in the back of my.
Yeah. And then again I just tell
myself, just take the next step, just take the next step and that
all toil brings about a profit. So it's just crazy that like
again, you and I were just creating this digital stuff for
my podcast, you repeating it for you.
Lets you shop. We were both kind of creating
stuff and then it was like, Hey, listen, like do you want to join
together? And I think that's been a really
nice Jen because it keeps you motivated.
When you're with someone like I don't want to let your partner
down. Your partner's won't let you
down. You're also like communicating
you're talking about it. You keep each other encouraged
kind of just hard by yourself you know.
Like it really is that it is. Yeah.
And then once you get somebody else that's kind of like no no
I'm grinding to like let's grind together.
Like yours. Yeah.
Do it. Okay.
All right. She's All right.
And, you know, sometimes like you'll say later, I don't know
how you do all that. I'm like, Jackie, I don't know
how you do all that, like children, it's so it's just nice
to see bielsa to relate to someone.
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah. And we all kind of knew that we
were going to do something together.
I feel like we always knew we were friends for too long that
it's true thing together. I know, right?
That funny ecology world and I'm over in my women's health field
but now here we are and our Etsy shop.
And again like you said, we're just, we want to create
beautiful. Things for nurses because or
nurse practitioners were noticing that like, we're kind
of Miss, like, nurses are hit on a lot.
Like, there's a ton of content and stuff for nurses, but nurse
practitioners are just kind of like, I don't know, we kind of
get lost somewhere between a doctor and a nurse, you know?
And so as we were kind of talking we're like, hey what do
we need like? Why isn't somebody like
targeting us with like cute stuff that we can use?
That is for us? And so I think that's what's
really special about Out, six SNP.
Etsy Shop is that, this is like, this is targeted nurse
practitioners. Like, that's what you want.
That's our Niche that were really trying to invent and
create content for. So we really encourage you guys
to check it out and like, and, you know, just again, give us
feedback to if there's something that you want us to create,
please message us. We are so open to creating for
the need, like, tell us where the hole is, tell us where
something's missing. Yeah.
Alright, so for the last question.
Russian of the podcast. I typically ask people you know,
would something that if you could go back and tell Jackie
you know when we first met in nursing school, 20 years ago,
that's the ourselves 16. Give me those four years that
you would have told her at the very beginning.
What would you have said? Piece of advice, was not going
to say, I'm not going to say what everyone else says.
Even though it's true about Jasmine surge.
Yeah, I think that if I think you need to know your value as a
new nurse, I think a lot of times, even though I feel like
it's moving away from it, there's a lot of the nurse
eating their young, So around. So now your value stand up for
yourself and you're going to be just fine, you're doing just
fine. What about it?
A piece of advice that if they hear is garbage toss it, it's a
device that make here I think is garbage.
Yeah, garbage. Trash trash a lot man.
Let me see something that you're like, if you hear this, don't
listen to it. Somebody tells you this don't
even pay attention to it. I don't know.
I just feel like Like follow your gut really because there's
a meal of nurses that are going to teach you that it's always
been done this way or just do it this way and, you know, I just
follow your gut, follow your protocols, stay safe and just
just, you know, that's especially as a new nurse.
I feel like you can get intimidated easily.
So just stick with what, you know, asked a ton of questions.
I mean, who cares if someone gets irritated hospitable
questions, you know it's better to ask than do something.
Yeah, I agree. Yeah I think just following your
gut. You know, I think we sometimes
Overlook what we feel kind of ignore it and being paranoid,
but following your gut is important.
Yeah, I think one of the things that you and I have talked a lot
about in regards to kind of looking back and thinking, you
know, we wish we would have developed side household sooner
like, yeah, you and I could go back.
Oh God, yes. You know what I'm saying?
Like we would have been hustling, you know.
Yeah, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, but I do not like at the
different time. Now, I feel like I feel like it
just wasn't a thing when we were younger.
You know, it's true. Its just, oh, you got a nursing
school. He become a nurse practitioner.
And you work in the hospital. Yeah, no.
But I love how it's just expanding.
Like you can we're seeing, I mean your podcast, right?
You're seeing all the ways that you can, you can use your
Nursing degree to do unconventional, nursing jobs or
even think outside the box. Yes, it's great.
And the skills. Triplet like you said, like,
absolutely caring for people. Oh, so what we do.
So you Totally be an Airbnb host because just Channel your
hospitality when somebody comes into your room.
That's assigned to you and you're like, welcome to the
hospital. Welcome to Mandy and I'm making
money in a different way than to do the things that I didn't ask
but also it is. Again, I think our skills equate
to so much more that I feel like when I went to school I was
told, okay, so your skills, allow you to work on the
hospital and do you think thats and also pass out meds?
No one told us that like no, no secret, like you don't realize
that these skills play into biss, things like, you can use
them to develop other things that could help you.
When you do have three children and you want to go back time.
And you're like, how do I make more income?
It's like, oh honey, you've got so many more skills than you
realize. Like, let us show you how you
know. So for the last part of the
interview Jackie, okay, the rapid fire questions, I saw your
son Music. Now was your very first job ever
CiCi's. Pizza, cashier.
I did not do. Yeah.
Hi. Welcome to Theses was like 15 or
16? Yeah.
And then I did a lot of
babysitting after that and I think that job lasted six months
and I was like, I'm not doing this.
What is your favorite board game or just like game that you like
parent board game? Is I put trouble.
With the kids a lot. It's kind of that little pop
game that my kids are little still so they can.
Yeah, yeah, that's fine. Yeah, you know what?
It's my favorite game that we play is when we beat our
husbands when we go on our vacation, has we beat our
husbands on charade? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
So, what was the last words you
had to look up to see what it meant?
Oh God, that's Max. No, I'm just kidding.
Yeah, I can't remember the word, but somebody commented a man
commented on. One of my Instagram posts, I had
to look it up because he felt like the male species was being
attacked by my Instagram when Pope Instagram post had to look
it up. And I was like moving on.
And I remember the word honestly, been one of the
challenging things, as well as the posting on social media.
Oh yeah, all that whole thing. That's a whole separate.
Yeah, I know. Good job.
Yeah, never set. Like, I know why people hire
people to do that stuff. Yeah, just yeah, it's a manager.
It's like I don't even want, people are posting sometimes,
people are not kind, so it's just like better not to know.
Well, I think Norman, thanks for coming on the podcast.
Girl. I just, yeah, I just talking
about what we're doing and what you're doing and where people
can find you again. Just share your handles and so
people that are listening can find out what Jack he's up to.
To not perfectly pregnant Collective and I have a little
Instagram profile there and you can find the healthcare.
Provider course that I took my link there as well and I'll
share it with you two. And yeah.
All my side hustles are there. Awesome, awesome.
Well, I will put it all in the show notes guys, check her out.
Yeah, thanks for calling. Gee mom back.
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