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Hi there. 
My name is dr. 

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Presenta, and I'm the host of 
the doctor nurse podcast. 

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I'm an advanced nurse 
practitioner and I want to be 

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your guide into the world of 
nursing professions. 

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This podcast is a platform for 
nurses to share their Journeys 

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as they made their way in the 
diverse field of nursing as 

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either entrepreneurs, Academia 
private, practice or even the 

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corporate world. 
I think we should celebrate just

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how diverse the field of nursing
is through mentoring one. 

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Another, with the stories of our
career. 

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Our Journeys, nothing is too 
mundane because each journey is 

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unique. 
This podcast will showcase 

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career options to encourage 
nurses to view their degrees 

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with a business mindset. 
After all we work in the 

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healthcare business and 
ultimately I hope I might 

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inspire you to make a change. 
If you're looking for something 

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different, I am motivated to see
you live, your best, nursing 

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life and that looks different 
for everyone. 

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Thanks for joining me on today's
podcast. 

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And let's get started with 
today's guests. 

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Hi guys. 
Welcome to the doctor nurse 

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podcast. 
Today, I have a special guest. 

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Ashley Grimes is a BS n, RN. 
And the founder of cannabis 

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nursing Solutions LLC, she's an 
advisor to the Cannabis nurses 

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of color and the author of a 
children's book and 2021, she 

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was chosen for Baltimore's 
Business Journal leaders in 

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healthcare and native to 
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She is dedicated to empowering 
patients in nursing 

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professionals to make informed 
Formed medical cannabis care 

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choices with impactful education
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She serves to promote diverse 
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equality in cannabis. 
She has experience as a 

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registered nurse for over 12 
years, and she has a bachelor's 

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degree from coppin University 
and a master's degree in nursing

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education from Townsend 
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She has a certification in 
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a certified lean Six Sigma Black
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She's worked in various 
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Telemetry quality improvement 
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a nurse. 
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pioneering non-traditional. 
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in Maryland. 
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approaches to dispensing 
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professionals and children in 
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Welcome to the doctor nurse 
podcast. 

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Thank you so much. 
Let's Dive Right In and let's 

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get started with kind of what 
your current. 

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It job title, is it, what 
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day basis at your job? 
So I work for myself right now, 

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I am the owner, CEO marketer, 
social media poster, everything 

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for cannabis, nursing Solutions.
I recently quit my job in 2020. 

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I was working in quality looking
at crunching numbers and things 

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of that nature. 
So not so exciting but it did 

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allow me to work from home for 
the last year. 

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I was working there. 
But anyway, I digress. 

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So day-to-day like I'm 
constantly looking for Nurses to

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bring to educate them on 
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I'm constantly trying to empower
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worked with so that way, they 
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talking about cannabis medicine,
educating their patients about 

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cannabis medicine and finding 
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Like that's literally what 
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Take me through your journey to 
how you got to this specific 

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spot in your career. 
It's been a long one. 

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So, I actually wrote a book 
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now is called stigmatized, it'll
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but, you know, long story short,
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like every other nurse when I 
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program. 
They said, hey you need to go to

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med surg so I was like, okay I'm
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I went to med-surg my work there
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I had some great experiences. 
I met some great people and then

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experiences and anxiety written 
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And of course, I moved around, I
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my first job for about four or 
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And it was this the med-surg job
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for for 25 years. 
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Master's Degree. 
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floating and I had like three 
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I mean, true. 
The nurse fashion, you find a 

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million jobs, and you work them 
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I'm and that's what pay for most
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care of us. 
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ended up doing a transition to 
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But once new nurses graduated 
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who was helping them, but I 
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Residency program. 
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wash them, basically, just 
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Okay, that's where I discovered 
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Understanding that, I love 
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nurses people who are learning 
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grow, and they weren't all areas
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ICU. 
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the hospital. 
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like, I know what, it's like to 
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I know what it's like to be a 
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That, at that point, I was 
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which I didn't realize That at 
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babysitting new nurses and then 
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and working as a project manager
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the only nurse there. 
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was very few females in that 
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So definitely interesting 
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it just had a lot of bumps and 
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learn a lot just about how 
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hospital from not just, you 
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point of view. 
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that makes the hospital. 
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professional role and that 
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babysitting? 
Nurses, you go from ABC nurses 

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to. 
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to me? 
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that job. 
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projects, I'll say it like that 
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hospital money. 
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example, was to implement a 
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list of supplies I guess. 
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drug rep, but for the state No, 
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the drug raps, you see I'm 
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Okay, okay, okay, you were 
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we're trying to push this stint 
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So I had to help compare and 
contrast the cost, and then they

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in. 
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was to save one point four 
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new Step. 
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That was my job to figure out 
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quality for the best dollar and 
then push it out amongst all 14 

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hospitals. 
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interesting actually because a 
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Okay so I can only work at the 
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but when you hear about nurses 
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translate into other jobs here 
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almost like a quality 
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You're pushing through a 
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actually cost last. 
Is going to cause less patient 

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mortality and morbidity. 
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that we actually get to play a 
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we are at the bedside, we do 
understand the whole process and

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they're very little holes that 
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And I think that's really neat. 
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cool aspect to your career that 
hopefully another nurse can hear

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about. 
I didn't even know I could do 

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something like that. 
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because I was a nurse like you 
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in one moment and the next 
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corporate Environment where 
they're like, we want you here 

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because one, your diverse to 
your nurse and you come with 

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this clinical experience. 
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things or insert your opinion 
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So we think you're about you. 
Yeah, that's really cool. 

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During this process. 
You said you were getting your 

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master's degree or you just 
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I haven't. 
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corporate professional role, I 
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years, post, my Master's Degree.
So work, a couple years and that

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transition to practice program 
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corporate job and I see, Two 
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And at this point, I'm working 
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I'm making the six figures, 
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Like most nervous. 
Nurses are like, I wish I wish I

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could make this six figure 
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And here I am. 
I'm making it. 

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And I first, it was fun. 
It was exciting. 

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It was overwhelming. 
You know, I was a little fish in

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a big pond. 
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I was trying to push these ideas
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through, you know what? 
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It was a lot and I was like, I 
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I was like, this is not gonna 
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This just cannot work. 
What was it that you didn't? 

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Like, well one the expectation 
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week. 
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So and I also have two small 
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The other thing is so you heard 
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one point four million dollars. 
So that was the priority amongst

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all the other things. 
So you listed all the quality 

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factors that for me where the 
priority because I'm a nurse 

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like I care about the 
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So it was a lot of like friction
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So you brought me on because I'm
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But Exert my opinion from the 
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never really value when I 
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That's interesting that you say 
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you're describing is exactly 
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starting to see in the hospital 
right now with like covid and 

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how they're treating nurses. 
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from the hospital 
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don't feel like, are the 
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anymore. 
Like, what are we doing here, 

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when the companies bring his on,
they have to realize that like, 

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truly the reason why we went 
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We do our jobs is because we do 
care about people genuinely when

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you then start creating this 
dynamic between cost and patient

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care and patient outcomes, the 
nurse is going to always pick 

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the patient outcomes in the 
patient care aspect and so 

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you're almost asking us to 
operate outside of our gifting 

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and in our hearts. 
It's almost like our convictions

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are this, the patient care. 
And now you're asking us to put 

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money before that, and we're 
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Doesn't teach us that Right, 
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We are baby nurses to put people
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And that's pretty much why I do 
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All together, it might be in 
this is probably where you're 

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going with your next question. 
But it may seem a little 

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counterintuitive that like I 
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because of the stigma being a 
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Now the money does come first in
order to run the business, we 

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have to have the money to do it 
and I see it now I see the why 

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behind the money driving certain
aspects of things but I'm I 

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believe that there's a way to 
find balance when I describe my 

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business. 
Yeah, I talk about cannabis 

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being medicine but really is 
cannabis. 

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Creating this this alternate 
opportunity to make money and 

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Alternate opportunity to care 
for patients in a way that we 

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don't traditionally see it an 
opportunity to release yourself 

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from Hospital Systems. 
So that way now you can help 

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create your own. 
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So take me through when you 
decided to go ahead and start 

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your own thing because you're 
getting burned out from this 

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corporate job that you got 
actually working in as a 

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clinical coach between the Job 
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program, and that was just fun. 
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the book, like a lot of 
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coach job, I took two weeks off 
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me tell you something. 
I have never used my PTO. 

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I never liked Like knew what it 
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because like I said, I was 
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I was working three, float pool 
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had my two children, like I was 
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going and when I took those two 
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wait a minute, like people that 
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their day and I didn't even know
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freedom of choosing. 
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body, my own time, my own space.
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six-figure job, And I went went 
went went because I was excited.

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This is not how I can spend the 

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next 20 to 30 years of my life. 
I'm still young. 

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I'm in my 30s, I decided to 
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I started to, like, learn 

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different things. 
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where I thought I was going to 
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It was called the yogi Journey, 
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Like, I had gotten to yoga 
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It was life-changing, right? 
And it's like, wow, you know how

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amazing this thing like I'm now 
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My body, I'm paying attention, 
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things. 
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don't pay attention to it. 
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had margins and that you were 
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that you didn't even have time. 
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conversation with another nurse 
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You don't even have time to 
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breath moving in and out to 
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your shoulders and these things 
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to me that they are so busy. 
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ignoring what I call the little 
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The little thing that's inside 
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down, pay attention, and we just
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noise and all the hubbub, and 
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that, I believe, there needs to 
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the little quiet still voice 
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for something else. 
You are not meant to do this. 

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That's kind of what I found and 
I And I have these conversations

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and discussions with nurses is 
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life-changing moments where like
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listening to the fact that 
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Yeah. 
Don't need to be crazy. 

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What can this look like? 
What can I create? 

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That will give me a balance 
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I like the way you put that, 
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A lot of time. 
Talking about developing Concept

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in my mind because I'm trying to
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The things that are Man in the 
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Everyone's story, everyone 
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just had. 
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you're processing through, oh my
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take me through, what your next 
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different things, like just 
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yoga was the door that opened my
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aspects of what health and 
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true homeostasis means. 
Things that I need. 

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So I discover cannabis, I went 
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the country and I was like, oh, 
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I went and I learned about the 
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was like, whoa, wait a minute, 
like what is this whole system 

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that we know nothing about? 
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So what did you learn? 
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the largest neuroreceptor system
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responsible for homeostasis. 
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cannabis just the plant. 
For just smoking weed, but there

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are a lot of ways that you can 
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one of them, meditation, all 
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endocannabinoid system with 
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I'm understanding again, very 
basic knowledge. 

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That it's because the milk and 
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In the breast milk works on the 
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thought was incredible. 
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cannabinoids that live in our 
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endocannabinoids. 
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breast. 
That's what I heard you were 

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just saying you would on this 
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endocannabinoids, your learning.
Like, what is this system? 

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And yeah, it's opening you up. 
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everybody else needs to know it.
Like, I was like, how am I going

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to tell everybody about what I 
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organized everything, and I had 
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So, when I was sitting there 
with my patients, I would know 

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exactly what was here and we 
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things and I started Doing like 
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doing consultations and 
everything like that, just 

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friends family, things of that 
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And what I realized or what I 
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people to it, couldn't just be 
me. 

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So I made it into like a class 
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it on a PowerPoint slide. 
Put all the little documents 

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that I created for myself, you 
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I make them available to other 
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just telling people come to my 
class for day and I made it 

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super super cheap so that way 
anybody can get it because I 

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don't feel Like nurses should 
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I'm being yeah. 
Otherwise but so what is your 

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program teach nurses or other 
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So it starts it talks about the 
history, it talks about the 

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cannabinoids, you know, a little
facts, like the breast milk and,

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you know, the endocannabinoids, 
and it talks about, you know, 

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just generally plant genetics, 
but then implementation into 

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nursing practice so treatment 
care planning. 

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Anybody can use it in any area 
for if you're interacting with a

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patient who chooses to consume 
can you assess that patient? 

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Properly. 
So that's pretty much it in a 

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nutshell and then, after they're
done, they can get access or an 

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opportunity to sell a product 
and get commission off of it. 

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So, you know, what is your 
product is not mine? 

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It's actually associated with a 
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state. 
So they are looking for nurses 

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to be able to offer the 
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So what we decided we partnered 
up and I was like hey I teach 

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these nurses and that like we 
will need educated people to 

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talk about. 
The cannabinoid adjunct 

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therapies. 
So why don't we give them money 

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to sell it? 
And I'm like, yeah, what does 

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the product do for the patient? 
And what type of patient are you

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marketing this to? 
So what's the patient population

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that you're marketing to? 
And what does it bring about the

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product that you're selling? 
Can you can you name the 

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product? 
Yes. 

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It's called Caribbean cvd. 
Okay, care, beyond CBD. 

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And so what is it offer who you 
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And then what does it do for the
it is for anybody. 

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Suffers from sleep insomnia, 
anxiety or pain. 

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And so because all of the nurses
who have gone through my 

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training are from different 
areas Specialties they can 

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Market to whoever their patients
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For me is that it gives them 
more motivation to talk about 

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cannabis as an option for their 
patience and being able to 

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assess them properly. 
So if that is something that 

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they need and need to get relief
from they can they have 

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something that they don't have 
to invest more money in, they 

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don't have Have to whole bunch 
of product on hand. 

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It's super easy for the patient 
that kind of thing. 

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So really just taking that nurse
through, I'm interested. 

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I'm learning and I've learned 
and now I can do something with 

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it. 
It can be the way that it helps 

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fund their freedom if they take 
that money. 

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And that's how I coach them, you
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thousand dollars a month, take 
that money and invest it into 

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whatever it is that you want to 
do so fun and get you where 

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you're trying to go, gotcha, 
what have you seen in your 

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treatment process of patients? 
Are you seeing people being 

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affected by The CBD, is it a CBD
oil or CBD capsule or liquid or?

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So I have picture and they have 
gummies. 

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We usually stick with a tincture
because as usually medical 

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grade, we try and stay away from
the more smokable forms, 

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although it can be something 
that patients need just because 

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of the, the quickness of the 
relief. 

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So really cannabis medicine is 
is an individualized medicine 

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and everybody can benefit in 
different ways. 

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So sometimes it's a combination 
of cannabinoids AIDS or methods 

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of consumption. 
That is needed. 

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This product though is really 
cool because they don't have to 

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get a medical card for it. 
It's totally legal. 

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It takes away that extra barrier
of trying to access it. 

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Most people who reach out, who 
want cannabis medicine are 

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suffering from Pain and sure 
that that's the number one 

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reason why people ask or are at 
their wit's end or, you know, 

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frustrated, they don't want to 
take opioids because they hear 

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all about the micro terrible. 
Or they are taking opioids and 

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it's just not working. 
So No, when they're talking to 

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Providers, we're not offering 
them. 

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The vast array of solutions. 
We just only offer them, 

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opioids. 
So this is just another solution

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that these nurses can all hold 
on one second, okay? 

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Hey baby. 
It's okay, I'll be right there. 

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Sorry about that. 
Yes, he's too. 

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But go ahead. 
You're saying, yeah. 

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So most people reach out for 
pain. 

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And yes, if they are using it 
intentionally, they do see 

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results. 
Yeah. 

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And this down and Other thing 
about this product is that it is

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very fast acting where it's like
most TV products are lipid vase,

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and it doesn't absorb as quickly
through the body, everybody that

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I know that have tried this 
product. 

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It has like I slept well, the 
pain is gone, like period. 

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So wow, that's incredible. 
What are the drawbacks of taking

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this CBD therapy? 
That you're offering? 

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It does it has its effect on the
liver so definitely monitoring 

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interactions with the body. 
The other medications. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Actually, like with opioids, if 

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you're taking CBD and opioids at
the same time, it can increase 

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the amount and amount of opioids
in the in the blood and can 

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increase the risk of overdosing 
on the opioid. 

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So wow, really Bringing Down the
amount of opioids. 

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If you're going to be 
increasing, the amount of cat 

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cannabinoids and different 
medications as well because they

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could see beauty Vines, the 
different receptors in the body.

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And a lot of our hormonal based 
medications also buying with 

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those same receptors, so it 
blocks in that way. 

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So just be mindful of those kind
of Of things, which is why 

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Healthcare Providers and you can
argue about this. 

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But I think that's the biggest 
one. 

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I mean, most people, the other 
thing that people kind of shy 

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away from CD is because some CD 
contains THC in it and if it 

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shows up in their bloodstream, 
then they may not qualify for 

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the job they won. 
So but there are isolates out 

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here really for the maximum 
health benefit, having a 

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combination of all the 
cannabinoids is most optimal for

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my own edification, the 
endocannabinoid system and the 

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drug and the In the CBD that 
your company offers is that does

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it have t c in it? 
Or is it it does? 

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Yeah. 
So it has Okay, small amount. 

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So the legal amount of THC that 
across the country that you can 

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ship and do everything is point 
three percent. 

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So, and this company, actually, 
they adhere to the point three 

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percent. 
But then, they also take 

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advantage of Delta 8th. 
See in some of their products or

454
00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:29,500
so. 
It's a, it's a very chemically 

455
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Through process that I'm not 
aware of. 

456
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,600
I'll put it that way, got it. 
Got it. 

457
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,900
There's things that are going on
in the manufacturing level of of

458
00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:40,100
the medication. 
Gotcha, very cool. 

459
00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:43,500
So give us as you been going 
through this journey and now 

460
00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:46,100
that you're teaching nurses 
about the endocannabinoid 

461
00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:49,100
system, you're teaching nurses 
and other Healthcare 

462
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:52,200
professionals and I'm assuming 
patients as well. 

463
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,900
How to use safely? 
These medications that can help 

464
00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:58,800
mitigate pain, sleep? 
And all the other things that 

465
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,900
there might be dealing. 
What is as you've been going 

466
00:23:01,900 --> 00:23:03,300
through your career? 
What would you say? 

467
00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:06,300
Has been a really big challenge 
that you've had to overcome just

468
00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:09,900
the general stigma because as 
soon as I say the word cannabis,

469
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,800
like, people either shut down or
their eyes light up, because I 

470
00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:14,800
used to smoke weed back in the 
day or something. 

471
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,300
You know what I mean? 
And they already have this, 

472
00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:19,700
like, preconceived notion about 
what they think I'm about to say

473
00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:21,400
to them. 
And even if I say something 

474
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,000
exact opposite, they still 
think. 

475
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,900
I've, you know, I've had people 
get mad at me because I say that

476
00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:29,300
cannabis as medicine, if he had 
people shy away from me, just 

477
00:23:29,300 --> 00:23:33,200
because I say, That I educate 
about cannabis and like, oh, cuz

478
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,500
you smoke weed all day. 
No. 

479
00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:36,900
Really. 
I don't, you know, like so just 

480
00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:40,300
all of the assumptions that are 
made based on the media stigma, 

481
00:23:40,300 --> 00:23:43,400
the messaging that went out. 
You know back in the 80s and 90s

482
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,800
is your brain on drugs. 
Cannabis is a gateway drug, you 

483
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,800
know, the War on Drugs. 
You know we got to condemn it. 

484
00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:52,900
Whatever you know, whatever the 
Mantra is that you play in your 

485
00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:54,100
head. 
What is your response when 

486
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:57,500
people say those things? 
So in my own personal growth 

487
00:23:57,500 --> 00:23:59,700
that I've learned that not, 
everybody's going to be willing 

488
00:23:59,700 --> 00:24:01,800
to hear what? 
Have to say and just being, okay

489
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,700
with that is not here for you to
receive, but you do know that I 

490
00:24:05,700 --> 00:24:08,900
exist and when you're ready to 
receive it, you'll probably 

491
00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:11,400
reach out down the line. 
I mean, we have more than 30 

492
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,100
states that have legalized 
cannabis. 

493
00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:16,500
So, I mean, it's hard to not 
hear about it in the media. 

494
00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:19,700
So at least give me any time 
that you felt like was a really 

495
00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:23,700
big win. 
It was a peak, it was, this is, 

496
00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:26,500
this is a good moment for us or 
for me or for my family or 

497
00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:29,500
whichever I have actually have 
quite a few. 

498
00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:32,300
So I have really Ali really low 
lows and I have equally High 

499
00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:35,800
highs, like that's just kind of 
where things have gone for me. 

500
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,100
But I have to say when I was 
acknowledged as an honorary for 

501
00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:43,900
the Baltimore Business Journal, 
20, 21, and then the realization

502
00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:46,900
that in 2021, I actually was in 
high times and Baltimore 

503
00:24:46,900 --> 00:24:50,000
Business Journal, which are 
completely opposing media 

504
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,900
Outlets. 
Like I was like, wait, who does 

505
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:55,200
this? 
So that was super cool. 

506
00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:56,900
Yeah. 
Awesome. 

507
00:24:57,100 --> 00:25:00,400
And anyone Mentor you along your
career Journey has any Come 

508
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,900
along side and just said, hey 
like, you know, let me help you 

509
00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:07,900
build this thing that you're 
building or let me take you 

510
00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:10,200
under my wing and teach you 
about professional development. 

511
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:14,300
A lot of people, I have some 
very key people that have kind 

512
00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:17,000
of come and gone and stayed and 
love, you know what I mean? 

513
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,200
Like, I have a lot of people I 
can list out, like the person 

514
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,800
who hired me for that transition
to practice program. 

515
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,900
If I could, she is, I'll do 
anything for her bend over 

516
00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:32,300
backwards for her. 
Because I was a key moment where

517
00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:35,600
I was a staff nurse and then 
transitioned into leadership and

518
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,100
she mentored me throughout the 
process, I remember feeling a 

519
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:41,700
lot of culture shock when I 
first went into Hospital 

520
00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:45,300
leadership and she was able to 
kind of help me shift my mindset

521
00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:48,400
and helped me kind of move in 
confidence, and she was also a 

522
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,800
fellow fellow Brown woman. 
So we shared a lot of you know 

523
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,800
the issues with confidence in a 
lot of ways. 

524
00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:58,100
It was, I mean I've had people 
help me with my writing 

525
00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:01,600
throughout the years I've had 
The person who nominated me for 

526
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,200
the Baltimore Business Journal, 
like, definitely is a key 

527
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,900
person. 
And one of my favorite 

528
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:11,600
girlfriends actually met at one 
of my jobs or favorite person to

529
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,200
talk to you in this moment. 
She she mentions me every single

530
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,700
day. 
She is she's a person who 

531
00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:21,000
reminds me that I am Ashley a 
you need to remember that your 

532
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,900
Ashley and you need to walk in 
this purpose that you got that 

533
00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:26,000
has been placed before you and 
keep going. 

534
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:29,100
Yes, I love that. 
Yeah, it's so true. 

535
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,500
So what if Vice, do you have for
a new nurse who starting off in 

536
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:35,200
her career that you wish you 
would have known when you would 

537
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,200
have gotten started? 
I wish that I would have known 

538
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,300
to just be patient. 
I think that a lot of us tend to

539
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:46,900
be very driven individuals, and 
I thought I was I needed to go 

540
00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:48,400
somewhere. 
I need to do something. 

541
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,500
I need to be like the Superstar 
like things had to be perfect. 

542
00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:55,800
Like and I think that's that's 
what contributed to that go, go,

543
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,400
go mentality. 
Like I had to get my Master's 

544
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,200
Degree, I had to get to the 6th 
I had to get here, get there, 

545
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,100
get there. 
And I think in a lot of ways I 

546
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:07,700
checked out like I wasn't in my 
own body when I was on the 

547
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:11,000
floors, like I'm here to care 
for people and I was allowing 

548
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,100
like the pressures of the job 
not. 

549
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:15,700
Let me care for people the way 
that I care for the mess. 

550
00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:19,600
I'm a very empathetic person, 
but because I wasn't present, I 

551
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,900
probably didn't show that 
empathy for a lot of papers that

552
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:24,900
I care for, but self-awareness, 
that's pretty good. 

553
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:28,800
So the last part of the 
interview is the rapid fire 

554
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,400
questions. 
No. 

555
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:32,800
Oh, this is a good one. 
Do you recycle? 

556
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,000
Are you recycler? 
No, no, either, sometimes, I'll 

557
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,100
be honest. 
I don't recycle sometimes, I 

558
00:27:39,108 --> 00:27:42,500
don't, I just don't. 
Okay, I'm gonna do take my 

559
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:46,400
boxes, but I do get them out to 
on recycle day, but like, I 

560
00:27:46,408 --> 00:27:49,100
don't have a separate bin or 
anything. 

561
00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:51,700
Alright. 
And then what's the best age to 

562
00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:55,800
be 23? 
You think, 23 and 0? 

563
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,300
This is, I like this one. 
What do you say when you answer 

564
00:27:58,300 --> 00:27:59,900
the phone? 
What's your greeting? 

565
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,800
D. 
Hello well hello. 

566
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:06,900
Okay my answer for my business 
or my answer of my personal 

567
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:09,000
phone. 
Just answer your phone when you 

568
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,800
say, I say hello? 
Yeah. 

569
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:12,900
Hi. 
I don't even know how I do it. 

570
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:15,300
That's a really hard question. 
It was a close girlfriend. 

571
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,900
Girl. 
Oh my gosh, Ashley. 

572
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:21,200
Thank you so much for coming on 
and sharing about your journey 

573
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,600
and how you are growing your 
business and hopefully educating

574
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,200
more nurses and other and 
patience to be free themselves. 

575
00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:31,600
Where can people find you if 
they're interested in kind of 

576
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,600
what you're doing right now and 
they want to possibly see if 

577
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,300
they can learn from you. 
So I'm on Instagram and 

578
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:38,700
Linkedin. 
But Instagrams. 

579
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:41,300
Easiest to find me, so it's 
cannabis nursing Solutions. 

580
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:45,000
You can email me, gratitude, a 
cannabis nursing Solutions, LLC 

581
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,000
deaf, Or on my website, which is
www.hyken.com is nursing 

582
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,400
Solutions LLC.com. 
Okay, wonderful, well guys, 

583
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,600
check her out at remember to 
enjoy the journey. 

584
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,600
Yes, we are at the end of our 
time together. 

585
00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:04,000
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586
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00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,800
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00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:15,600
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00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,200
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00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,100
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594
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,300
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601
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:48,400
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603
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