1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,880 Nursing is rewarding, important, and often all consuming. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,920 And let's face it, it's been a rough couple years. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,440 You deserve a laugh. Enter a card game called Nurses 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,680 Against Insanity, a fun, slightly scandalous take on the 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,800 work and life of a nursing professional. 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,440 This game has over 300 cards that we hope will make you and 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,840 your nursing colleagues laugh hard enough to pee. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,040 Unless you've been doing your Kegels, who should play the 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,680 game? 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And she has a master's degree 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,800 from Texas Women's University. She's a registered nurse and 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,360 she's a nurse practitioner. And her expertise lies in 23 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,680 helping engage firms secure mass torts, mass actions, data 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,720 breaches, toxic exposure and personal injury cases. 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,720 I know you're wondering how the heck is she a nurse 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,000 practitioner? And she does all these things. 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,400 Trust me. We're going to piece it together 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,520 for you today on the episode. She's happily married, which I 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,160 love. And she has a dog child named 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Chef and a free rage Bunny named Cookie. 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,960 That's hilarious. We are so happy to have you on 32 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:45,720 today, Sierra and I just cannot wait to share your incredible 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,800 journey. Thanks for coming on. 34 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,240 Thanks for having me, Sandra. I'm excited to hear my story 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,840 finally and finally tie it all together. 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,760 Yes, today, like literally I've been like having the most 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,400 incredible conversations with nurse practitioners in non 38 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,600 traditional spaces and it's everything. 39 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,480 I also know that you're a model, which if anyone's like watching 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,320 on YouTube, you can tell she is a model and a lifestyle content 41 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,160 creator. I just think you're just 42 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,760 incredible. So let's get started. 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,960 Kind of what inspired you to move from clinical practice to 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,320 marketing? And I think your journey is 45 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,960 really interesting because you came to this spot in your 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,280 nursing career. That was a pivotal moment for 47 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,440 you. And I want you to describe that 48 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,960 to my listeners. Yeah, for sure. 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,360 So basically what had been going on is I was working as a 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,200 pediatric nurse for a couple years and something that really 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:42,280 bothered me was that regardless if I was working 110% the nurse 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,120 next to me, if they had been there longer, they were making 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,360 significantly more than me. So to me that meant regardless 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,240 of how hard I work every day, I'm never going to make a wage 55 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,520 that is satisfying unless I fully commit for the next 10 to 56 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,640 15 years. And then it's like, what's 57 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:00,960 what's the price of money then in 10 to 15 years? 58 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,440 And I just going to keep staying at the same level when I think 59 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,440 I'm going upwards, you know, like am I on an Ant and going on 60 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,120 elephants back backwards when you think you're going forward? 61 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,440 Yeah, so I started asking you around opening it up to my 62 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,160 community, just telling them the things I wanted. 63 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,560 So what I knew I wanted was potentially to get into some 64 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,640 sort of business development Wellness role. 65 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,840 I feel like that's every nurses kind of stuff launched into 66 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,080 quote UN quote getting out right. 67 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,080 We we talked about how I got shipped into a couple pyramid 68 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:41,240 schemes happens to the smartest. So got you a couple of those. 69 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,040 But then my girlfriend who I actually worked with mentioned 70 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,000 that Hurst that I'm football coach on the preventative 71 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,520 Wellness clinic and a nice part of town. 72 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,480 They wanted to hire a lead nurse with a big personality. 73 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,600 So I ended up having a conversation with them in a 74 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,080 couple of weeks. They hired me as a lead nurse 75 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,160 and then a month until I left pediatric nursing. 76 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,080 I was there at a preventive medicine clinic for about 6 77 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,080 months. Conflict with my manager 78 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,240 Sandberg. I was actually fired from that 79 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,600 job, which was really appalling for me because I've never been 80 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,200 fired before and I've been there for six months and honestly had 81 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,519 completely made that job like my life, my personality, and my 82 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:25,640 satisfaction. Highly do not recommend that you 83 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,560 have to find value of yourself outside of work. 84 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,280 But that was hurtful for me but a really big lesson. 85 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,720 The same owner of that clinic when I had he was the one who 86 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,400 like brought me on but not the one who fired me. 87 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,240 The manager have fired me. Yeah. 88 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,480 And so I knew I'm going to go talk to the owner. 89 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,680 Like, how could you pull me away from PDF and nursing, bring me 90 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,520 on for the Super exciting role, and then just let somebody fire 91 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,440 me over nothing. But he seemed more relaxed about 92 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,080 it, which is surprising to me because I felt like my world was 93 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,520 on fire. And you wanted me to read him 94 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,440 for coffee in the next couple of days to kind of talk things 95 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,080 over. So I met with him for coffee and 96 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,480 he mentioned that he had another business helping around a lot 97 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,160 longer than the clinic. Great group of people that he 98 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,000 always thought he could see me with but just didn't know when 99 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,120 he could offer some sort of transition. 100 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:21,400 They pretty much offered me a role at his legal marketing 101 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,840 company as an account executive that I could interview with his 102 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:28,760 CEO and his director of the time and just kind of feel out what 103 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,160 they were doing. But at this point I wasn't super 104 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,160 trusting because I just got hired from another business. 105 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,920 Yeah, OK. Sure. 106 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,120 I believe you. Something a great opportunity to 107 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,600 get like. Like it's to set up. 108 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,800 Yeah, like getting hungry now. That's the result. 109 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,840 So I ended up interviewing with the guys that he had mentioned, 110 00:05:56,840 --> 00:06:01,360 the CEO and the and the director and it went well, but I still 111 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,400 just in general had no idea what they were doing. 112 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,880 Like I didn't know what SEO was. I didn't know where mass tour 113 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:13,120 was but I told them I would think about it after the 114 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,720 conversation and so I asked for another conversation a couple 115 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:23,960 weeks later and in that time I had decided if I hate this and 116 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,280 have no idea what's going on after giving it my best I can go 117 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:28,680 back to nursing. Right. 118 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,640 It's always kind of your safe out. 119 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,440 So I took the job. I'm more reluctantly since I had 120 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,440 no idea what was going on, to be honest. 121 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,960 I just kind of love the personality and the people that 122 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,600 I loved that they were taking a chance on me. 123 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,160 And I've been with Teesside, the legal marketing company in 124 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,560 Austin, for three years. Wow, wow. 125 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,400 And so one of the things that I think was also super interesting 126 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,640 is that during this time, you kept your nurse practitioner or 127 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,240 your nurse job also working for you, right? 128 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,680 Because I know you were getting, you got your master's degree 129 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:08,680 during this time, like you were still grinding on your nursing 130 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,320 career while pursuing another career in a completely 131 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:17,200 different, you know, segment of the industry, the job industry. 132 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,600 I mean, we're talking about like healthcare and marketing. 133 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,360 These are very, they're intertwined, but they're not 134 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,640 especially for a nurse practitioner necessarily 135 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,280 something that we get ourselves involved in. 136 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,480 It's definitely super cool that you still kept what I would like 137 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,840 to call your golden ticket, your backup plan, like whatever it is 138 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,000 that I just, I can go do this at any time. 139 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,760 I'm going to keep investing in me while I'm still learning what 140 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,000 I want to do and not do. I just think that's incredible 141 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,640 and kind of what kept you still fighting for that while you were 142 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:54,240 pursuing this other industry. So when I started at Teaseg, I 143 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:59,480 was already almost two years into my master's program and I 144 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,080 had already paid off all my loans from undergrad. 145 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,680 So I decided that I was going to pay for my master's completely 146 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,480 out of pocket with monthly payment. 147 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,760 Go girl. I joined Teaseg and was like, I 148 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,400 want to quit this program. I had already personally 149 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:22,040 invested like 15 K into my cell and so not to, you know, say 150 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,400 that's the only reason I finished it. 151 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,360 But just from like a personal investment piece, it'd be a 152 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,960 really poor investment to just flush 15K down the toilet 153 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,000 towards an education that was a golden ticket to a six figure 154 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:41,120 income, which is gives me a lot of security about being in a 155 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,840 sales role is that at any point I could be a nurse practitioner 156 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,480 and still, you know, make my bills. 157 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,640 Exactly. Money for my family. 158 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,800 Yeah, Yeah. One of the things that I like to 159 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,640 tie a lot and and to encourage nurse practitioners is that our 160 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,280 nursing skills translate into so many other jobs. 161 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:08,040 One of the things that I always like to kind of pull from nurses 162 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,120 that are not do or nurse practitioners that are not doing 163 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,640 traditional stuff is like, OK, so how do your skills translate 164 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,240 into what you're doing right now? 165 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,360 So I hear a COI hear reaching out to law firms like, you know, 166 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,800 law firms figuring out how your business at T sag can help them 167 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,040 in their marketing needs. Kind of what have you found? 168 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,480 You're tapping into your pediatric nursing skills? 169 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,080 Are you tapping into everyday that you do a job in a 170 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,040 completely different field? You know like. 171 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,080 Sometimes I have crazy people I deal with. 172 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,440 I always tell my boss I think I have the pediatric nursing 173 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,320 skills. Finance. 174 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:49,840 To deal with these babies. But to be honest, I wish that 175 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,600 every nurse or nurse practitioner knew the power and 176 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,920 completing a tough program against all the odds and how you 177 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,320 can apply that to anything in your life. 178 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,080 Like the fact that we could go through some of the toughest 179 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,280 programs, how people fall out around us, listen to directions, 180 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,200 show up to things that we don't even think make sense, but still 181 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,320 do 110%. If you apply that to any program 182 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,080 in your life and just realize, say, if I can get through this, 183 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,320 I can get there. Anything. 184 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,640 Number one, I think that's a nurse's biggest skill #2 I think 185 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,160 the biggest skill that a nurse can bring into any type of 186 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,360 business space is assessment and intake. 187 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,400 The the fact that I have this edge of asking open-ended 188 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,320 questions and providing A thorough assessment, whether 189 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,320 it's a head to toe or your intake process at your law firm, 190 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,360 that is something that has taken me really far and it's the 191 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,360 easiest way for me to apply my nursing skills directly into my 192 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,080 business skills. And three, as a nurse, we have 193 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,400 the hardest conversation on planet earth. 194 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,040 The hardest. So I have no shyness when it 195 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,120 comes to hard business conversations or cold calling 30 196 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,360 people because I've already had life changing conversations with 197 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,760 people. I really don't care if you say F 198 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,560 you and hang up on me, that's still better than my worst day 199 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:21,200 ever. And treat to what you just said. 200 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,200 I mean, just, yeah, I, I took that abuse for way less. 201 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:31,720 Like I was doing that for free. I was like one of the things 202 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,080 that wait, oh, you're saying I've had another, I think it was 203 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:40,040 PP nurse, nurse Papa. He came onto my podcast and he 204 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,520 said, if I can convince somebody crazy to take their pills, like 205 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:50,240 I can buy anyone into something and it's facts, I can dump 206 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,240 somebody into logging after surgery. 207 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,320 Like you just had your attribute opened up and I can get you up 208 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,360 and get you to walk. Conversations you've had with 209 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,360 Siebel handcuffed to a bed like. Think about it. 210 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,040 I don't think about it, but. Every day I try. 211 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,360 To forget. Yes, exactly. 212 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,760 And so I think that nurses are just always thinking like, I 213 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,640 don't have the skills or I need an MBA before I can go do 214 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,320 marketing. And it's like, no, no, no, 215 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,360 friend, you've been doing it. You've been doing it for a 216 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,800 while. Exactly. 217 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,360 Every time I say hi, my name is Sierra, I'm going to be a nurse 218 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:30,560 as your first markings. Well said, well said. 219 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,520 What is a typical day look like for you? 220 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:37,880 As a nurse practitioner working in marketing and doing something 221 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,440 different? What is your typical day look 222 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,480 like? Hey, I hate to interrupt a good 223 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,440 conversation, but I have to tell you about the newest sponsor for 224 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,640 the Success NP Podcast. Now, do you ever feel like you 225 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,520 can't get ahead on charting? 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Check out our success NP Etsy 257 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,200 shop, LinkedIn, the show notes for our digital guides and other 258 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,720 digital clinical resources. Now let's get back to the 259 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,760 conversation. Are you work from home? 260 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,160 Are you out in a shrinky events like like what are you doing? 261 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,400 Like? What's it look like for you, 262 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,880 Sierra? Most days that I work from home, 263 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,320 I wake up really early every day. 264 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:04,040 Yeah, sitting for my boards, actually, at the end of April. 265 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:08,480 So every morning I do my little online course. 266 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,560 For your N keyboards. Yeah, Oh. 267 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:12,680 My gosh. OK. 268 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,240 So you're like getting in the middle of it? 269 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,720 Yeah, well, I graduate in December. 270 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,480 I take my boards in April. Good for you. 271 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,120 Yeah. So every morning I still wake up 272 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,680 and do school really early just like I used to. 273 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,000 And then I probably work on school for maybe 90 minutes. 274 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,360 And then from 7:00 to 8:00, I work on my lifestyle brand, 275 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,920 which is the already online. And then my first work meeting 276 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,800 every day starts at 8:15. And then after that, I'll 277 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,960 probably have either like some client meetings, maybe do some 278 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,160 preparation to meet with them for I'll have a lunch, which 279 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,440 were I'll always do some sort of like exercise. 280 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,560 And then after that, I might do some cold outreach, post on 281 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,840 LinkedIn, catch up on my inbox, submit any new projects to my 282 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,360 team. So that's what like my typical 8 283 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,120 to 5 would look like. But I do probably once a month 284 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,440 travel to legal conferences for work, can meet lawyers I haven't 285 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,880 met before or connect with current clients because I work 286 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,000 with law firms across the country. 287 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,040 So a lot of my firms that I've worked with, you know, for three 288 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,440 years, I've actually never even met in person. 289 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,920 Wow, so. What? 290 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,480 Training. Have you had to do, if any, to 291 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,440 kind of walk into this space right? 292 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,800 Like, there has to be some type of, I had to brush up on. 293 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,600 I had to buy a, you know, Law Firm for Dummies Buck. 294 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,080 Like something we know what you got. 295 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,680 Yeah, because it's really impressive. 296 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,280 You've got to be able to hold your own. 297 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,560 Like, we got to hold our own with docs and nurse 298 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,440 practitioners. We can have those conversations. 299 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,000 But this is a whole different jargon. 300 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,280 It's a whole different space. How do you navigate? 301 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,200 Yeah, well, I have two weeks of training with I bought before 302 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,040 going out into the field. Whoa, OK, sounds pretty quick. 303 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,560 We did some remote training and really the training was pretty 304 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,440 straightforward. You know, we would only meet for 305 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,000 a few hours in the morning and then the rest of the day I would 306 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:09,119 whatever they taught me to do that day. 307 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:15,240 But I would say most of my skill comes from my colleagues who 308 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:21,440 trained me for making mistakes. But it, but it's the best 309 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,160 training and my bosses will tell you that. 310 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,720 And they always told me don't get too involved in the weeds, 311 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,480 like don't be too concerned on how everything works all the 312 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,480 time because I would say that was my biggest fault as a man. 313 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,360 It's like, I need to know how everything works. 314 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:39,120 Is it like, well, you're not in operations and that's making too 315 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:41,160 much of your brain power. We want you to be an account 316 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,520 executive full time. Like you don't, you don't need 317 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,200 to be thinking about how we're doing everything. 318 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,040 You just need to be the account executive. 319 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,320 So that was something that was really hard for me to let go of, 320 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,000 but launch me forward. I think one of the things I'm a 321 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,000 homeschooling mom, so I teach my little one like mistakes or how 322 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,880 you learn because school And the reason why I I'm really 323 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,560 passionate about homeschooling him is because I think school 324 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,640 teaches you mistakes are bad. You make a mistake, you get a 325 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,280 bad grade right. Then what you just said is 326 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,440 tantamount. And I think to a certain extent 327 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,680 makes people afraid to go out and try things that they might 328 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,120 make a mistake in. I might fail. 329 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:20,160 I might not look like I know what I'm doing. 330 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,760 I'm not like all these different concepts that it's like, no, you 331 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,360 can do it sloppy. You can build the plane as it 332 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:28,600 flies. Like these are things that 333 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,240 people do, just take action and that action matters. 334 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,440 You'll be above all the people that kind of like what your Co 335 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,960 worker said. I need to know everything about 336 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,960 everything and then I will get started. 337 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,040 It's like, no, you just need to get started. 338 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,360 Focus in on this part and then build the plane as you go. 339 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,320 Make mistakes, pick yourself up from mistakes, don't do them 340 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,160 again and keep moving on. It's here, this really cute 341 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,760 book, it's called Beautiful Oops. 342 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,520 And it's a paper that's been destroyed. 343 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,640 You've either crumpled it, you splattered paint on it, and I'm 344 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,080 literally teaching my 5 year old to take the splatter paint and 345 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,040 to make little bugs like we're take the little splatter paint 346 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,920 and create a tree. These are the things and the 347 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,880 concepts that I think nurses need to hear that it's OK. 348 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,360 Yes, we want to be perfect with administration. 349 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:17,640 We don't want to make mistakes with giving people drugs, so we 350 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,680 don't want to make mistakes. But in other fields, you learn 351 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,040 through the mistakes. You're not a bad nurse because 352 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,440 you made a mistake. You're going to be OK. 353 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,200 You got to pick yourself up and keep trying. 354 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,320 Make mistakes in nursing. I feel like my personality 355 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,320 completely changed. I'm sure that for you having a 356 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,920 child and realizing that like because the nursing there's no 357 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,600 room for error. You lose your license, you'll 358 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,160 lose your livelihood. Yes. 359 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,240 My girlfriends and I always talk about how that happens day one 360 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,360 you go to nursing school. Do you remember if you didn't 361 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:49,760 pass your dosing exam before every quarter you couldn't 362 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,640 proceed in your program? Yes, and my program only allowed 363 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,920 you to get 2 mistakes on a 12 question quiz for dosing. 364 00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:00,880 Yeah, it's like it's ingrained on us that you can never make a 365 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,080 mistake. And I don't know if you remember 366 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,800 a nursing if you made a mistake, it felt extremely shameful and 367 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,200 like my entire career could be taken away from me. 368 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:10,720 Exactly. No, exactly. 369 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:16,280 And that is the antithesis to, in my opinion, growing level of 370 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,880 confidence and resiliency. Nurses, I think to a certain 371 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,120 extent they get into their minds that like, we could be perfect. 372 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:25,040 It's like, no, no, the whole system's already making 373 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,160 mistakes. Like Swiss chains model of the 374 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,800 whole where the doctor misses it, the nurse misses it, the 375 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,640 pharmacist misses it. There are multiple layers of 376 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,000 mistakes that can occur because we're that last line between 377 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,040 them, that whole system and the patient. 378 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,240 We feel a super big pressure to not make any mistakes. 379 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,240 And it's just the antithesis of that in the business world. 380 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,840 Your mistakes are how you learn. When you read these books by 381 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,880 Napoleon Hill and, and Stephen Covey and all these incredible 382 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,480 genius minds of people that study business, they talk about 383 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,720 their mistakes, that they learn more from their mistakes than 384 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,760 they ever learned from their successes. 385 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:10,080 And I think to a certain degree, I don't know how nurses embrace 386 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,360 the mistakes without the shame, or I don't know how we overcome 387 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:16,760 that because it's so tough. They look at the nurse like, 388 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,560 well, why'd you give it? It's these mistakes that we 389 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,880 make, we learn from, and they're important there to create 390 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,360 systems so that the mistakes don't happen again. 391 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,000 That shame in the business world, you'll never move 392 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,600 forward. Yeah. 393 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,520 You really can't incent carry that same nursing shame into 394 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,520 your career. Yeah, I agree. 395 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,320 I agree with you. By the way, you know what? 396 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,880 The podcast on your Instagram. 100% yeah. 397 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,640 I mean, I, I started that and I'm going to just tell you like 398 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:50,800 I started that while my son was napping and I'm like, I'm 3334 399 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,480 years old. Like, what am I doing? 400 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,560 Like I have a doctorate in nursing. 401 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,200 Like, what am I trying to like come up with something new? 402 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,080 Like, what are we doing, Sandra? And I'm like, no, like, I 403 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,200 shouldn't have to go someplace to make money. 404 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,760 There should be other options. And just that belief that even 405 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,360 if this fails, even if this doesn't work, like even if I 406 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:15,040 never make it, the fact that I just put action into something 407 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,240 and made messy action steps and built the plane when it was 408 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,880 flying, I'm never going to look back and regret that. 409 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,760 I think that more nurses and nurse practitioners need to hear 410 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,600 like, it's OK if you try something and it doesn't work. 411 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,760 You're trying something that is above what most people ever a 412 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,640 dream and aspire to do. They don't even dream to do 413 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,680 anything and you've at least given it a shot like. 414 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,560 It's so anti nurse to be creative and to take risk and to 415 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,320 prowl. It's that's literally anti 416 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,080 nurse. I think that there's so many 417 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,160 nurses that have so much creativity bound up inside of 418 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,200 them that never gets expressed. And I had these wonderful 419 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,560 conversations with nurse creators that they were like, it 420 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,480 took getting sick, it took getting laid out, it took some 421 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,000 event in their life where they couldn't work as a nurse that 422 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,640 made them go. I just started doodling, I just 423 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,000 started creating. And then they create these 424 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,160 beautiful things that I'm like, see nurses like we have this 425 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,920 bound up in US already. Like, don't just think that has 426 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,760 to be this one grind, have to just be here. 427 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,920 No, you have so many options. You have so many things. 428 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,320 And I think it's so inspiring that you have carved and created 429 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,520 yourself a career in a field so different from nursing, but you 430 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,800 find your skills translating so perfectly. 431 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,760 What advice would you give to a nurse practitioner who's 432 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,960 interested in saying, what if could I get involved in 433 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,600 marketing? Like, could I give that a try? 434 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,160 Like, what would you tell him or her you know to be thinking 435 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,280 about? Like what to be searching for? 436 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,720 Not not pyramid theme. I have to I never wanted to have 437 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,400 this to stay with her. I'm here with seriously, the one 438 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,440 thing I would do is just start talking to your community and 439 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,720 people that you trust. Even I didn't really even know 440 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,200 what it was going to be for me. I just knew I like business 441 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,840 development. I like Wellness. 442 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,760 What does that look like for me? So I just started calling out 443 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:17,040 entertaining and whatever me who even and my husband introduced 444 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,280 me to somebody he's working with. 445 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,240 I would say I'm a pediatric nurse, but I'm looking to get 446 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,520 into sign of like Wellness business development is more my 447 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,760 interest. And then I was going to, you 448 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,000 know, marketing events saying these are the things I'm open 449 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,400 to, not marketing events, just networking events in Austin in 450 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,640 general. Like I would just go Google 451 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,600 Austin networking events and if there was one that looked cool, 452 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,040 I would go show up and just talk to everyone about what I'm doing 453 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,040 now and what I want. And so I would just urge every 454 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,320 nurse. I know you guys have crazy 455 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,000 schedules, but just start talking to the people around 456 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,920 you, your roommate, your neighbors. 457 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,760 You never know whose ears they're going to be. 458 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,720 And if you just start speaking life into what you want, you 459 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,240 might find yourself at a legal marketing company three years 460 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,120 later. And and I feel the mother good 461 00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:05,400 soft transition spot that people like to land in as any type of 462 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,720 like medical cells. Yeah, yeah. 463 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:11,680 You know what I think a really important thing to touch on and 464 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,120 just stop at real quick is about speaking life into something. 465 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,400 I think that when you keep bringing up and you keep saying 466 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,560 it's just like I kept putting it out there and like you'll be 467 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,720 kind of surprised how what I like to call the laws of 468 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,560 attraction, you can call it like, you know, if you have 469 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,920 faith, like if that goes against your faith beliefs, like fine, 470 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,520 you know, whatever that is that you just start putting that 471 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,600 energy out there. Things start kind of finding 472 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,360 you. It's because you're putting out 473 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:39,520 that energy and it's starting to attract back to you. 474 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,520 Kind of interesting how when you start to believe in yourself, 475 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,240 others around you begin to believe in you too. 476 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,760 And so they end up kind of pushing you towards the things 477 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,680 that you're saying that you're wanting because other people 478 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,560 start to get on board with what it is that you're hoping for. 479 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,040 And so I remember when I'm. People who are on board, they 480 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,520 got off the train. I mean, I used to know those 481 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,240 people fall off and like I remember when I went part time 482 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,320 as a nurse practitioner and there was no part time like 483 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,760 nurse practitioners. They were like, you can't have 484 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,640 this. And I was like, hold this, I'm 485 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,240 going to go find it. You know, So like went and found 486 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,760 a part time nursing job as a nurse practitioner. 487 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:19,840 Everyone was like, how'd you find this? 488 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,800 And I'm like, I just put it out there like, you got to go, you 489 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,000 got to go try and, and like, now another nurse practitioner went 490 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,720 part time at my job. And she was like, this was easy. 491 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,440 I think because you've already done it. 492 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,880 Like we need other nurse practitioners in these spaces to 493 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,760 show us what we can do to break the mold, to kind of hit that 494 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,240 glass ceiling, to bust it through and just be like, you 495 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,720 don't like, did it, you can do it. 496 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,280 Because I feel like a lot of people put degrees on what they 497 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,160 think below and you'll meet small minded people who try to 498 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,480 put boundaries on yours. But I'm telling everyone 499 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,200 listening to completely deny and disregard anyone who puts 500 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,000 boundaries on you. Yeah, it doesn't matter how 501 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,040 crazy or you have to be deletional. 502 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,400 Yes, right. Like you have to be crazy. 503 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,520 Well, we're like we. You have to be crazy crazier. 504 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,800 I mean, it's again like I, there's so many things that I 505 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,320 think on my mind, I'm like, this is a Sunday, right? 506 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,920 We're doing this on a Sunday. Other people are grinding, doing 507 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,960 like, or maybe doing nothing. Like, hey, hear our voices. 508 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,440 Like you got to be crazy about it. 509 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,320 You got to be. There's 1000 things that could 510 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,440 be doing. But no, this is important to me. 511 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,920 I enjoy this. I enjoy putting my heart and my 512 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,440 soul into this. Find the thing that does that 513 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,800 for you that you're like, I just I want to talk about this for 514 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,400 forever or I want to encourage other nurses because I remember 515 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,320 that feeling of being like, I have to go kind of like what you 516 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,320 were saying on the on the floor, like I have to go back to work 517 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,880 and leave my baby, but with a stranger, like, wait, what? 518 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,080 Like no, no, that can't be. I've got to start attracting and 519 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,680 finding those things that are different for me. 520 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,880 And every nurse has those moments. 521 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,800 Every nurse that breaks out of the mold has a moment of this 522 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,240 cannot be how this continues. What are some of the challenges 523 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,760 that you find in this career that you're that you're in? 524 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,880 I know things are new. I know it's not what you spent a 525 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,240 lot about it a lot of time learning about. 526 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,680 So what are some of the challenges that you find in this 527 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,440 in this space? I mean, it kind of feels like 528 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,160 maybe a little bit of like a like a bro world that you're 529 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,320 kind of in. I mean a lot of lawyers or guys. 530 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,080 So like I'm in like you're this like model nurse. 531 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,840 Like how do you overcome the challenges? 532 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,960 Well. Let me think about my challenge, 533 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,800 Jared. I would say, OK, I love that. 534 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,560 You remember, think about them. That's that's great. 535 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,120 Like the number one challenge that I had is that I don't get 536 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,360 warm fuzzy feelings at work. I don't meet new parents and 537 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,160 help them build their confidence and feel connected with their 538 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,680 families. I remember going to a football 539 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,360 game in my neighborhood and have a mom come up to me and said, 540 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,160 like, you are my pediatric nurse. 541 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,560 I remember I was so low and I had the lowest amount of 542 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,480 confidence. And you made me feel like I 543 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,760 could take over the world every time I came and saw you. 544 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,000 And like for me, like I don't get those type of compliments in 545 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,440 my job anymore. So sometimes it's hard for me to 546 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,200 feel like I'm not using God's gift to my fullest advantage to 547 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,640 care for others. That I would say is like largest 548 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,400 insecurity of Christian. But you know, with the 549 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,960 insecurity, there's things that make me secure and what I'm 550 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,560 doing now and give me people. We're talking about the 551 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,280 challenges. Is that the first one? 552 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,720 I actually get that comment a lot about the bro world and 553 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,560 working with a lot of math. In fact, I probably get the 554 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:47,400 question every time people find I work with lawyers and to be 555 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:55,080 honest, it's something that someone would no likelihood on 556 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,320 me at a conference. I wasn't going to be blind to 557 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:03,200 that people things like that. But I've never been in a 558 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,120 business meeting and felt undermined or not respected 559 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,840 because I demand it. Oh come on, girl. 560 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,320 And if people even try to edge towards any type of joke that I 561 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,560 think it's disrespectful to me as a woman, I will correct them 562 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,480 really fast and then it never happens again. 563 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,560 So to be honest, I don't have any situation for you know, I 564 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,160 was like super uncomfortable and didn't know what to say. 565 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,040 I that my brown juice really fast and I talked about my 566 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,800 husband really quickly to other men. 567 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,400 Yeah. Oh, interesting. 568 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,000 I didn't even think about that aspect. 569 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,880 I think I was thinking more along the lines of just 570 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,040 commanding authority, just feeling like you're an expert in 571 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,600 this area, you know, just the different things related to the 572 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,320 job. I feel like I noticed that 573 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,920 female physicians that it's tough. 574 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,000 It's tougher because, you know, physicians are mostly male 575 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,120 dominated. And so I know that there's a 576 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,120 struggle in that space to show your competency, to show how 577 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,720 serious you are about the career when like there's a, there's an 578 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,200 element where I feel like I'm like, we're still with like we 579 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,360 still want family. We still want things that I 580 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,080 think could make it hard for us to be career drivers per SE 581 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,560 forever. But it sounds like in, in 582 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,040 regards to, you know, having those interactions, they're 583 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,800 pretty positive. I mean, it sounds like in 584 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,440 general you have, you know, no real big issues outside of 585 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,000 inappropriate stuff that just comes with walking down the 586 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000 street as a woman, you know, like it's got a. 587 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,720 You can work for the surgeon. You can work for the lawyer. 588 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,960 Exactly. I see you're coming from in 589 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,800 terms of like leadership and feeling like, yeah, he had to go 590 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,960 through that after my first year. 591 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,680 Legal marketing is like, I work with this and my boss is that I 592 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,320 have to demand and make a seat for myself at the table, he 593 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,200 says. I was starting to get invited to 594 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,000 bigger dinners with big industry leaders and I thought like I I'm 595 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,520 not. I wasn't making space for 596 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,080 myself. I was trying to keep my volume 597 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,360 as small as possible because I knew I was half the age of 598 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,600 everyone at the table. No one time expect me to be an 599 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,720 expert but I decided I'm going to make room for myself by being 600 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,720 genuine regardless as I'm acting like a female in my 20s. 601 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,160 I am a female in my 20s and I am an expert on this. 602 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,600 It made me feel better because I don't act like I'm an expert 603 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,560 personal injury lawyer. I'm an expert legal difficult 604 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,000 marketing. Yes, OK. 605 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,000 That's an important distinction. I definitely think that you 606 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,080 answered that question very well because it's it's multifaceted. 607 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,760 It's not just in one area and then tell for. 608 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,880 Yourself though, make room for yourself at the table. 609 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,720 Don't. Don't make yourself small and 610 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,840 make room. Scoot over. 611 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,920 Yeah. No, I think that's really good 612 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:48,920 here. Yeah. 613 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,960 And to cultivate that confidence in your 20s is tough. 614 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,120 I mean, I feel like I'm still struggling with that a 39 years 615 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,280 old. It's like whoa. 616 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,520 And with the skill and the time that I've had, I think it takes 617 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,800 time to cultivate that. I think it's really inspiring 618 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,640 that you've been able to just kind of go like I felt that. 619 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,400 I noticed it in myself, the self-awareness and I was just 620 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,520 like, I don't need to be cocky, but I just need to be confident. 621 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,760 And that's, that's different. Well you feel the dislike, like 622 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,200 I have sat at a table and felt the dislike from people near me 623 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,160 thinking I'm not an expert. And I used to make myself quiet. 624 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,720 But then I decided if I hear something that's incorrect you 625 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,600 should say that because they would correct you as well. 626 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,040 And I noticed by being genuine saying hey like that's not 627 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,160 right. Like that's not a real diagnosis 628 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,880 that you're talking about. That made room for me at the 629 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,760 table. How do you see the role of nurse 630 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,520 practitioners in the marketing world growing? 631 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,680 Do you see this is something that more M PS can crack into? 632 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,200 I really do think that any nurse practitioner or nurse who wants 633 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,880 to get in a marketing or sales role should 1000% take the 634 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,440 opportunity if they're interested. 635 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,520 And I see more healthcare people moving into the industry. 636 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:11,199 I've met other nurses in similar roles, so I know that marketing 637 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:15,800 companies are open to hiring us and love to have people who 638 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,199 care, have high emotional intelligence, and like I said, 639 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,880 you have the power to complete a Critical thing program. 640 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,840 You have the power to complete self raining. 641 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,199 That's so good. And where can listeners connect 642 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:31,239 with you? Meet you, Sierra, you're so 643 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,679 wonderful. And your content is so great 644 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,360 online. I just was like, scrolling. 645 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,159 I was mindlessly scrolling. I was like, oh, my God. 646 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,080 Our wedding was like, I love her bride. 647 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,360 It's her dog. Like, it's just such cute 648 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,199 content. You also work as a model. 649 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,199 Where can people find you, Check you out? 650 00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,520 How do you find how to? Yeah. 651 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,199 Everyone can find my more candid lifestyle stuff on Instagram. 652 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,880 It's Sierra D online, but if you're more interested in my 653 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,080 career type of content, I'm on LinkedIn as well. 654 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,680 You can find me under my name Sierra D Rosinski or I believe 655 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,480 after LinkedIn back slap it's legal marketing expert. 656 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,720 OK, great guys. I'll put all of her links in the 657 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:11,720 show notes. And so before we close the 658 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:14,080 episode, I do a rapid fire question. 659 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,520 OK, excellent. What book would you give to 660 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,400 someone? If you're like this book, this 661 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,840 is the book, Read it. What would it be? 662 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,520 I'm like Med surd can our saying bye Lewis. 663 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:31,600 I'm limping if you never want to read again. 664 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,760 What's your goal? To never read Med Search Nurses. 665 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,680 Volume funds. OK, so the book I recommend 666 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,280 anyone read is called The Defining Decade. 667 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,240 Using your 20s to their full advantage to have tools in your 668 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:51,680 tool belt for the future. Oh, and I'm going to put it down 669 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:53,880 and I'm going to read it myself. That sounds great. 670 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,320 You don't need to be in your 20s to read it. 671 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,360 OK, good. Excellent. 672 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,640 Hopefully I don't apply it. I can make my 30s in the last 673 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,280 year, my 30's the best ever. OK. 674 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,280 And then the first couple. Times. 675 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,040 OK. Got it. 676 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:03,600 Thank you. Thank you. 677 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,640 Yeah, Big threw heads up. OK, so if you had to pick 678 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,040 someone to play you on TV, who would it be? 679 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,360 I mean, you might say yourself because you're about, but who 680 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,520 would you? Who would you pick? 681 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,040 Aubrey Plaza. Wait, do I? 682 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,200 Oh, she's funny. She's a funny girl. 683 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,200 She's, like, weirdly funny, Yeah. 684 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,360 I love her. You love her spirit animal like 685 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,280 you think like part of her is inside of you and you feel like 686 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,600 that would be expressed. Like that she's genuine and dry. 687 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,880 I feel like I am also dry so I think she'd be a good for me. 688 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,680 Yeah, that's really funny. OK. 689 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,080 And then what was your first job? 690 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,200 Emperor. Like under the age of 16, like 691 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,520 before I could legally. Work legal, illegal. 692 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,720 What was your first one? My first job ever I've door to 693 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:52,560 door to my neighbors and they were older so like they needed 694 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,200 any help going the house so hold up like come on the trash out 695 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,680 for 5 bucks or whatever they want to pay me. 696 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,840 And for my first job on AW2 I have bus tables. 697 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,960 Bus tables stop underneath like behind like underneath the table 698 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,520 was like, I don't know, like very nursing like it was very 699 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,720 good kind like it's like for sure to nursing or. 700 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,960 Something, I mean, I wish so little. 701 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,360 My dad was like standing. Thanks Sir. 702 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,760 OK, don't snatch her, but she's offering to help you with her 703 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,600 do. We have to say yes, like you're 704 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,120 done. The Success MP quote of the day 705 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,720 is they succeed because they think they can. 706 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,120 By virtual and again Success MP, we are all about what it looks 707 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,520 like to make your life successful as a nurse 708 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,240 practitioner for you. And this is just another 709 00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:48,640 conversation about what it looks like to create and carve the 710 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,360 life that you want. And I think Sierra is so 711 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,000 beautifully put that there's a moment that you decide what your 712 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,480 life is going to look like and you decide if that's successful 713 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,120 or not to you, and you determine that doesn't look like success. 714 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,480 Me being here for 20 years and chasing after inflation and not 715 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,680 feeling like I'm getting compensated, that was not it for 716 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,200 her. And so she changed it. 717 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,000 And every nurse has that capacity to build that for 718 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,160 themselves. She did it because she thought 719 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,040 she could. And look at her. 720 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,840 And I just think it's so incredible. 721 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,360 And thanks for coming on today, Sierra. 722 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,440 Having me it's just such a pleasure to just meet with 723 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,440 another like minded nurse. Nothing like minded delusional 724 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,480 person. Another crazy. 725 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,600 But I think it's great and it's super inspiring. 726 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,920 The fact that you mentioned you're a mom, you have your 727 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,160 doctorate's degree. You knew you didn't want to 728 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,440 leave your cadet home full time. And now you get to home school 729 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,120 like you are living the life that you imagine and spoke into 730 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,800 this world and like you are a reflection of that success. 731 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,720 So I it has been an honor to be honored with you. 732 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:54,960 Thank you. Thank you, Sierra, for saying 733 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,040 saying all that is so kind. All right, guys, thanks for 734 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,840 hanging out and join us next week. 735 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,680 Thanks for tuning into another episode of Success and P. 736 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,800 We hope today's discussion has shed some light on the diverse 737 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,880 career options or taught you how to improve your clinical 738 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,480 practice as a nurse practitioner. 739 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,320 Remember, whether you're considering a specialization, 740 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,360 pursuing advanced certifications, or exploring non 741 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,160 traditional roles, there's a wealth of opportunities out 742 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,080 there waiting for you. Be sure to subscribe to the show 743 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,760 so you don't miss an episode and leave us a five star review. 744 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,360 It helps the podcast grow. 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