1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,100 Welcome to the doctor nurse podcast. 2 00:00:03,100 --> 00:00:05,100 I'm your host, dr. Sandra contenta. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,400 I'm a doctor, Lee prepared nurse practitioner. 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,300 And I am so glad you decided to join me today. 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,900 The doctor nurse podcast is a podcast for nurses and nurse 6 00:00:13,900 --> 00:00:17,400 practitioners that are wanting to understand what exactly their 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,400 degrees can do for them. After the birth of my son, I had 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,500 this baking desire to have more flexibility in my career 9 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:27,100 choices. Despite feeling like all the 10 00:00:27,100 --> 00:00:30,200 alphabet soup, after my name didn't really afford me. 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,900 Me very many options, I launched the podcast to find the answers 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 that I so desperately needed. But I also knew I couldn't be 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,800 the only nurse who felt this way. 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,200 This is sound like you, if so, come and hang out with me as I 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,100 figure out what our nursing degrees can give us access to, 16 00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:51,000 as far as career flexibility control, over our schedules and 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,600 Entrepreneurship my talking with NPS and our friends who are 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,800 doing exactly that. Sit back and enjoy the 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,100 conversation. Doctor nurse Spam. 20 00:01:01,100 --> 00:01:04,500 Welcome to another episode of the doctor nurse podcast. 21 00:01:04,500 --> 00:01:08,800 Today on the podcast, we have Melissa Pauline, she graduated 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,200 from nursing school, with her associate's degree in the 2003 23 00:01:12,500 --> 00:01:15,100 she worked in, emergency medicine for 10 years before 24 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:18,500 going back to get her BSN, which that just goes to show you, you 25 00:01:18,500 --> 00:01:20,900 don't need to be assigned to get working as a nurse. 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,300 And then she went back, finished your BF that in 2013, and then 27 00:01:25,300 --> 00:01:28,600 she got her first master's degree in adult geriatric, 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,600 primary care. And And then she went back in 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,800 2017 and got her acute care postmasters. 30 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,300 So she is working as a ICU intensivists or ICU nurse 31 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:43,800 practitioner and then on the side, she has her own rejuvenate 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:48,100 you Wellness Clinic where she's doing IV, hydration drains, 33 00:01:48,100 --> 00:01:51,400 weight loss, Aesthetics. She works part-time at that and 34 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,100 she works full time. I don't know how as an ICU NP, 35 00:01:55,100 --> 00:01:58,100 welcome, Melissa to the police and the thank you for having me. 36 00:01:58,300 --> 00:02:01,700 I'm so glad to chat with you and I And there were talking before 37 00:02:01,700 --> 00:02:04,700 the podcast. She is just she's crushing it. 38 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:08,400 She's the literally just moving from space to participate. 39 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,300 She's got goals, she's got vision and she's knocking them 40 00:02:11,300 --> 00:02:15,600 down so I can't wait to hear. So Melissa, tell me a little bit 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,200 about how you kind of see your role. 42 00:02:18,300 --> 00:02:20,800 I've briefly introduced, you kind of what you're doing but 43 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,300 really explain what you're doing in the ICU setting. 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,800 And then what you're doing in your senior side, hustle 45 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,300 business, ISO and ICU setting. I a massacre I see nurse 46 00:02:29,300 --> 00:02:32,900 practitioner or I I see you intensivist and what we do is a 47 00:02:32,900 --> 00:02:38,400 group of us nurse practitioner. We run a n bed, medical ICU 48 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,100 unit. That means we go from omitting, 49 00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:45,200 the patience to providing this, as far as putting in lines. 50 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,100 So, arterial line, Central lines, it sebacean chest tube, 51 00:02:49,300 --> 00:02:51,300 lumbar puncture you name it. We do it. 52 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:54,300 And we also with multidisciplinary rounds, we 53 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:58,200 also manage the patient's putting in ordering medications 54 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,100 figuring out. What course we want to take when 55 00:03:00,100 --> 00:03:03,100 it To antibiotic figuring out the social aspects of our 56 00:03:03,100 --> 00:03:05,900 clients because because I do work in a level one, Trauma 57 00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:08,900 Center in an urban area. So, we have a lot of social 58 00:03:08,900 --> 00:03:11,400 issues in regards to our patient population. 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,600 So we do a lot of that with the help of Art and we switch out a 60 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,200 10 minutes once a week. But pretty much we run the, I 61 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,100 see. Wow! 62 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,100 Wow! So I've had one other acute care 63 00:03:22,100 --> 00:03:24,800 nurse practitioner on and that's pretty much what she said 64 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,400 because the residents cycle through the attending cycle 65 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,900 through, but then NPCs are They're Monday through Friday 66 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,600 and they know what's going on. And so the docks were really 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,900 rely on them heavily to carry the unit and let the, you know, 68 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:40,500 kind of let the boss know what's going on. 69 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:43,300 Tell me what I need to do, tell me how to help problem solve 70 00:03:43,300 --> 00:03:46,000 think through things, but you guys are the ones running 71 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,900 running the show. Is that is that kind of what 72 00:03:47,900 --> 00:03:50,200 you're doing, where a constant on the unit? 73 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,700 I was say that we're like an island of our own. 74 00:03:52,700 --> 00:03:55,700 So we're not registered nurses, which means we're not following 75 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:57,900 orders, but we're also not positioned. 76 00:03:57,900 --> 00:04:01,100 So, you know, we're not an MD so we're like, A little first 77 00:04:01,100 --> 00:04:04,500 practitioner Island owned. Those really hard when it comes 78 00:04:04,500 --> 00:04:07,800 out liberating us, right? So, do we fit into nurses week, 79 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,600 but we're not that. Do we fit into dr. 80 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,000 Dave, we're not physician, so, it's kind of like, you know, 81 00:04:13,008 --> 00:04:16,500 we're kind of like the in-between between the two, the 82 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:20,500 two islands, what we are, what links we link the nursing 83 00:04:20,500 --> 00:04:24,000 bedside at the MDF. Because, you know, in order for 84 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,000 us to be nurse practitioners, had to be fed signer begin with. 85 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 So we can we can get acclimated know what? 86 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:33,400 Rose need to be played. Yeah, what I like to is, I'm 87 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,200 kind of seeing this word picture, you guys are like a 88 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,900 bridge, right? And unfortunately, the bridge 89 00:04:37,900 --> 00:04:40,200 never gets recognized. You just walk across the bridge, 90 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,300 right? And so the people on the ones 91 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:43,700 that are just like the bees on there. 92 00:04:43,700 --> 00:04:44,900 Sorry. Like and you're like, listen, 93 00:04:44,900 --> 00:04:47,100 you guys can't talk and get things done, if it wasn't for 94 00:04:47,100 --> 00:04:49,700 us, unfortunately, I agree. There isn't a great way to 95 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:52,400 celebrate nurse practitioners and what we do in the different 96 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,000 areas that we work in, so definitely can understand the, 97 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,500 the kind of disappointment that can be for sure. 98 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,200 So, Tell me a little bit about your side hustle as well because 99 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,500 again in the middle of rock, in the ICU and keeping patients 100 00:05:06,500 --> 00:05:09,900 alive in the acute care setting doing incredible procedures that 101 00:05:09,900 --> 00:05:13,000 again nurse practitioners can do within their appropriate scope. 102 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Tell me a little bit about what you decided to build on the side 103 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,000 though because I am double board certified. 104 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,600 So I can be an office versus and also being hostile to decided to 105 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,600 open up rejuvenate you want this class. 106 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,700 This was in May of 2020. So, right in the heart of covid, 107 00:05:26,700 --> 00:05:30,100 we realized that, you know, we need, I had of the hospital. 108 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,900 Because it's actually in a room for them so but other way to 109 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:35,400 help them is through the wellness clinic. 110 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,200 So we provide IV vitamin. So high dose vitamin C a 111 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,900 cocktail weight loss trips buttock performance trip. 112 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:46,500 So it's just a way of keeping clients hydrated without 113 00:05:46,500 --> 00:05:48,600 actually having to go to the emergency room. 114 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,400 We also do like Aesthetics so we do see him in for the fine 115 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:56,600 wrinkles we do lip fillers on the post-op side. 116 00:05:56,900 --> 00:06:00,100 You like sir a drainage is for clients that hypo sucked in. 117 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:03,300 Have like the fluid collection and can't get that massage shop. 118 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:06,400 We remove drains for clients that come in from out of the 119 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,200 country that had like three stalks and stuff and they come 120 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,700 back with the brain. Normally you can't just go to an 121 00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:13,700 urgent care or your doctor's office. 122 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,500 Get those taken out because, you know, if they don't put it, they 123 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:18,500 don't want to take it out for an instant removal. 124 00:06:18,500 --> 00:06:22,300 So I do a bit of a lot of things clinic but I can be able to help 125 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:26,700 keep my client the hospital. Yeah, so tell me a little bit 126 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:30,100 about your time split between the two for someone that's like 127 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,600 Okay. Wait, how is she managing all 128 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,000 this and in the day, how do you kind of work out your schedule? 129 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,500 So you can keep up with both of these? 130 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:39,200 Well, am I in my office right now? 131 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,300 I did have a medical assistant working with me who just 132 00:06:42,300 --> 00:06:45,400 recently quit. So, right now, their goal the 133 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,700 to. So I do 36 hours the, I see. 134 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,200 I'm also the team lead, so I'm in charge over there, so, I do 135 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,400 three days. So I'm gonna do like day Monday, 136 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,400 other day during the week and then, in my office, I'm normally 137 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,100 here two or three days a week, but it's Bayou. 138 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:03,700 My only can't just like walk in and think some here. 139 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,200 So it's just everything is by appointment only and I try to 140 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,100 kind of gauge it where I kind of front-load everybody. 141 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:12,500 So like I'll have like my busy, today's Tuesdays and Thursdays 142 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:16,400 where I put everybody in that on the schedule for those two days 143 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:19,200 and then that way, you know, I still have I'm a wife, I'm a mom 144 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,000 of two like I still have, you know, my responsibilities at 145 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,900 home so I still have to give them at least a day if. 146 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,700 Yeah. Exactly that's crazy. 147 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,900 So how did you so we know that You learned all your skills for 148 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:34,300 your. I see you work through it 149 00:07:34,500 --> 00:07:37,700 working as an RN but then also going back for your master's 150 00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:39,500 degree. Now, these other things that 151 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:42,400 you're doing at your clinic at your personal, you know, 152 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,200 part-time job, how did you learn these skills? 153 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,100 Because it's something that you went to school for, you took a 154 00:07:48,100 --> 00:07:49,600 course. Like, how did you learn how you 155 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,000 take courses? So, my best friend, she also 156 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,700 does what I do. But she's like an hour and the 157 00:07:54,700 --> 00:07:57,400 way from where I'm okay. So she started doing it first 158 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,400 and then we took courses and I was very interested in the IV, 159 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,300 vitamin therapy because June of 2020, I had weight loss surgery 160 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:10,300 at the we've done and you know, that we that done like, you 161 00:08:10,300 --> 00:08:13,100 don't process and digest your foods and your vitamins. 162 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,100 I'm supposed to take, you know, calcium and magnesium, and all 163 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:20,300 that every day, I realized what the class that I just can't do 164 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:23,300 it once a month. And it's the same amount of 165 00:08:23,500 --> 00:08:27,100 vitamins and flu, is that I get every single day versus taking 166 00:08:27,100 --> 00:08:29,800 every single day. I do an IV every month to keep 167 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:30,800 my body. Many levels. 168 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,000 So we just take classes, you can take any type, of course, as 169 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,100 long as you're depending on your state that you're in some states 170 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:40,000 are completely independent and the state of Georgia, we're not 171 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,299 independent. So I have a collaborate in MD 172 00:08:42,299 --> 00:08:46,200 that I said, I work, I don't work alongside but he checks my 173 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,100 charts, every quarter to make sure that I'm doing everything 174 00:08:49,100 --> 00:08:53,600 that they need to do. Yeah, so interesting as you were 175 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,900 as you were talking about, you know, learning about the 176 00:08:55,900 --> 00:08:59,400 different courses, taking the different things and then doing 177 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,700 it. What was the turnaround time 178 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:04,900 between learning and then starting to implement these 179 00:09:04,900 --> 00:09:07,200 things in your own practice? How long did you give yourself? 180 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,300 I started taking the course maybe Mark, so hard to 2020. 181 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:15,200 I took a took IV by is called IV Therapy Academy. 182 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,900 I took their online course and it was like a self-paced type of 183 00:09:18,908 --> 00:09:21,700 course, and everything that I need to learn how to open up the 184 00:09:21,700 --> 00:09:25,200 business, how to do everything, and then I register business 185 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,500 name, May of 2020 and that I opened up the door. 186 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:32,600 September. 20th. Okay, so it wasn't long at all 187 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,300 like six months from taking the course to starting opening 188 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:36,400 pretty much. Yeah. 189 00:09:37,300 --> 00:09:40,300 If you're if you're passionate about something and you really 190 00:09:40,300 --> 00:09:43,300 want to get it done like this should be no barriers just be 191 00:09:43,300 --> 00:09:45,400 able to say yeah. Yeah. 192 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:47,300 One of the things too. I love about what you're 193 00:09:47,300 --> 00:09:49,400 describing and how you kind of got started. 194 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,400 With the idea is you solved your own problem, you know what I'm 195 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,000 saying? So like a lot of entrepreneurs 196 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,800 come on here and there like I noticed that this wasn't being 197 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,500 solved and so I Sweat and solved it. 198 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:05,800 And so you had to kind of assess where to put your business, how 199 00:10:05,900 --> 00:10:07,100 what would be the great location? 200 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:08,800 What would be the structure of it? 201 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,200 And one just get started. You'll figure it out as you go. 202 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:16,200 But how did you kind of assess where to put the business when 203 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,700 you were looking for a spot for someone that's like, okay, maybe 204 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:21,200 I could do that. Where, where do I even start 205 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,200 with a business? Where do I even put it though? 206 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,100 I mean, the right answer to that question is market research, 207 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:28,500 right? But as a nurse, we didn't teach 208 00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:30,000 us any of that stuff. They don't date. 209 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,500 What I learned as a nurse, when I graduate in 2003 was, you need 210 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:35,900 to start in men, searched. A need to turn your pain every 211 00:10:35,900 --> 00:10:38,500 two hours and a right. Don't teach you about being 212 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:39,400 business. My nail. 213 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,000 They don't let you know that you can be an entrepreneur and you 214 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,100 know these are the things that you can do to make that happen. 215 00:10:45,100 --> 00:10:46,600 So I just kind of had to figure it out. 216 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,900 Myself course, you know, it wasn't losses, it was Lessons 217 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:53,400 Learned through this process, but I just know my area. 218 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,800 I know what area, I know what kind of business I have. 219 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,700 So, I have a cache based business, right? 220 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,000 So they don't take insurance. So I what do I need to say? 221 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,100 Myself. I need to be in a place where I 222 00:11:02,100 --> 00:11:06,400 know that their household income is at a certain price point, 223 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:10,000 because then I know that this is not a, some people would say 224 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,800 it's a necessity but it's really not a necessity preventive. 225 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,300 Care is something that you want to do. 226 00:11:14,300 --> 00:11:17,200 So it has to be with people that have disposable income to be 227 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,800 able to pay for a treatment out of pocket. 228 00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:25,200 Yeah, for exactly. So again, kind of looking at the 229 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,700 area around where you're thinking about putting a 230 00:11:27,700 --> 00:11:32,300 business is a great way to Start because it allows you to kind of 231 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:34,700 go, like I'm going to be able to make money here. 232 00:11:34,700 --> 00:11:39,000 People have that disposable income and I'll be able to, to 233 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,600 have the clientele to meet when I'm when I'm servicing, when I'm 234 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,700 offering. So tell me, what was one aspect 235 00:11:45,700 --> 00:11:48,400 of starting a business? That was challenging because of 236 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,500 your background, as a nurse, kind of like what you said. 237 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,700 I just, I they don't teach us the stuff in school and then one 238 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:57,200 thing that you're like, this is easy because I was a nurse and 239 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,000 this is an easy part of owning a business. 240 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,400 Let me see the Hardest part is all of it, all of it. 241 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,800 We, you know, you are behind you. 242 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,300 They give you all the paperwork. OSHA HIPAA privacy. 243 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:11,700 You do all of it. You find four days. 244 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:13,800 You do the classes go, right? You don't care. 245 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,600 If the electricity is paid or not, like it's Hospital though. 246 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,500 It's not. Let me flip the light is gonna 247 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:21,900 run, right? So, all of it was really, I just 248 00:12:21,900 --> 00:12:24,600 had to like really do my research and really learn the 249 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,500 ins and out of the business. I mean, I'm sure for you to 250 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:30,000 still things that I need the working on that I need. 251 00:12:30,100 --> 00:12:33,100 It's like perfect but I think a lot of it was hard. 252 00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:36,800 The one thing the when you ask me like what was not hard client 253 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,000 relations customer service right into your winter people, they 254 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,400 taking care of people is like, I've been doing it for so long 255 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,600 that that's not the problem marketing Network. 256 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,000 I mean not marking but networking and talking to 257 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,600 clients and tell them about your business. 258 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,500 That is not hard. That's the easy part. 259 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:55,200 Thanks for listening to the episode. 260 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,300 I hope you're enjoying the conversation. 261 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,000 I wanted to take this time and remind you to check out. 262 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:05,100 The success and P at Z shop. It's a shop that I design with 263 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:10,000 my best girlfriend, cute nurse, practitioner gear, hats bags, 264 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,900 anything you could think of, as well as adorable, digital 265 00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:19,800 products, mom life stuff. So resources for nurses to come, 266 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,900 we're just excited about our shop, it's another way to 267 00:13:22,900 --> 00:13:25,800 support the podcast and to get really cool gear. 268 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:29,100 Check it out and be sure to tell your friends about the podcast 269 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:31,500 as well as the SUV. Op if you'd like and when I'm 270 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:36,700 building here, any promotion, any sharing helps build my 271 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:38,800 audience and I greatly appreciate it. 272 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:40,900 Now, let's get back to the episode running. 273 00:13:40,900 --> 00:13:45,300 The business marketing is not as easy as people make it seem just 274 00:13:45,300 --> 00:13:48,600 like the financial back off. A lot of that stuff is just it's 275 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,900 just a lot but you learn, as you go. 276 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:53,900 Yeah. And with hiring your ma, I know 277 00:13:53,900 --> 00:13:57,700 you said you lost your ma, are you looking to hire have you 278 00:13:58,100 --> 00:14:00,000 been thinking of ways of making this more? 279 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,700 - so that you can kind of step away from the business and let 280 00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:06,700 the business kind of run itself. Let that be a passive source of 281 00:14:06,700 --> 00:14:09,100 income, which again, nothing's ever really past it. 282 00:14:09,108 --> 00:14:11,000 That's one thing that I've been noticing as well. 283 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:14,400 The different conversations is that, yes, money might be coming 284 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,400 in, but you have to manage it. Anything that doesn't get 285 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:19,600 managed. You can't measure, you can't 286 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:20,900 determine. Is it growing? 287 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,000 You have to measure and you have to manage passive income period. 288 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,700 But is there an attempt that you're trying to make to keep to 289 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:29,900 make this business with the attempt is? 290 00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:33,000 Is what I've learned is that people are like fickle they'll 291 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,700 start off and you're hired them everything and they're like this 292 00:14:36,700 --> 00:14:39,300 is not my thing. So I've dealt with that. 293 00:14:39,300 --> 00:14:42,800 So what I've learned is to kind of take a step back, reassessing 294 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,500 re-evaluate and see really where I'm trying to go and where I'm 295 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:51,000 trying to go is to have to be to manage the back office and not 296 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,100 necessarily be in the front office all the time. 297 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,100 So I'm I will be looking to hire like an end to be able to do the 298 00:14:57,100 --> 00:15:00,000 things that I can do and then I could be in the back office. 299 00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:02,500 And just manage it that way. Yeah, yeah. 300 00:15:02,500 --> 00:15:05,300 That's a really good thought. Because if you can get someone 301 00:15:05,300 --> 00:15:08,100 to do a certain amount of it, even if you offload, a portion 302 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:11,500 of it, certain amount of visits that are ongoing, you've got it 303 00:15:11,500 --> 00:15:14,300 visits in between that you can then get in the back do that 304 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:17,700 work come out, do a patient, she's done two or three, you're 305 00:15:17,700 --> 00:15:20,800 going to be making more money and you're not doing all the 306 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,700 work necessarily by yourself. Of course offsetting her salary. 307 00:15:23,700 --> 00:15:25,600 But the more productive she is the more money. 308 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,200 She makes me make that an incentive. 309 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,900 If use you, if you hire someone. So, yeah. 310 00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:33,600 That's really, really good. So for an inspired an aspiring 311 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,600 entrepreneur. That's like I really want to I 312 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,300 really want to get into this. What is something that you would 313 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:42,500 tell her that she needs to do to get started him or her, you need 314 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:44,000 to do this? If you want to get started with 315 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:49,100 a business idea, I think what I would, her would be just to 316 00:15:49,300 --> 00:15:52,400 figure out what your goals are in life because I'm like, if 317 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,500 you're, if you get, anybody can say, anybody can take a course, 318 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:57,700 you can teach anybody anything right. 319 00:15:57,700 --> 00:16:01,400 But like, they like the good old saying, said, Take, you can take 320 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,700 a horse to water but you can't make them drink it. 321 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,500 And that's what I've learned everybody. 322 00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:07,000 You know, they'll get on social media. 323 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,900 Oh, this looks so cool. And I want to do this and I want 324 00:16:08,900 --> 00:16:11,000 to do that. And then of course it but don't 325 00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:13,500 execute but what I would tell people to do is like if you're 326 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:15,700 going to put your money out there, put your money where your 327 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:18,100 mouth is, if you're going to put your money out there and take a 328 00:16:18,100 --> 00:16:21,600 course, then you need to at least execute because you can 329 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,200 never stay that you never accomplish anything without 330 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,500 trying after try. You know this is not a hard to 331 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:29,900 get into any vitamin there. You won't make. 332 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,300 You like a millionaire but you just have to know in your 333 00:16:33,300 --> 00:16:37,300 surrounding area, what you can add on to that and build and 334 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:39,500 expand. So like for me in my area, 335 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,500 started with IV vitamin therapy and quickly realized that my are 336 00:16:43,900 --> 00:16:47,500 they have fine lines and wrinkles if they like fillers 337 00:16:47,500 --> 00:16:50,100 and xeomin and Botox and all that. 338 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,600 But then I asked the class and I added that to the business to 339 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,800 start scaling and then you know, to be able to get Revenue. 340 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,900 So you just have to know what is area 2. 341 00:17:00,100 --> 00:17:03,500 Able to skip bill. Yeah, so that's kind of going 342 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:06,500 back to that market research and just kind of listening to what 343 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:08,800 the clients need when they come in, right? 344 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,599 And they'll start to tell you like, hey, do you do this? 345 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:16,900 And you're like, no, but I could write like so that again, is 346 00:17:16,900 --> 00:17:19,400 something that, you know, as I've been building my Etsy 347 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,599 business, and we've been kind of creating content digital content 348 00:17:22,700 --> 00:17:25,700 shirts, things like that. I've been pushing more towards. 349 00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:28,300 Like, I need to ask people, what they need, what they want. 350 00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:29,600 Like, what is it that you guys want? 351 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,600 What is it? That you need so that I can then 352 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,300 fill those gaps. Because if you again, get in 353 00:17:34,300 --> 00:17:38,800 that mindset of, I'm here, as a gap to fill gaps to create 354 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,900 Solutions, then those Solutions can end up turning into 355 00:17:41,900 --> 00:17:44,700 profitable side. Hustles businesses, business 356 00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:47,600 ideas, and things that you can end up scaling, which is really, 357 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,800 really great. And so working in the ICU, doing 358 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,100 the part-time side, hustle business. 359 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:55,300 What would you, what would you be? 360 00:17:55,300 --> 00:17:57,500 What would be one thing? You would tell your younger self 361 00:17:57,500 --> 00:17:59,900 you go back and tell, you know, Melissa. 362 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,300 Hey, you're starting off your career. 363 00:18:02,300 --> 00:18:06,000 This is something that you need to remember at the start of your 364 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,500 career and carry it throughout your the rest of your career. 365 00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:10,600 Anything is possible. Anything, you put your mind to 366 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,500 as possible. Had I known in 2003 that there's 367 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:16,800 a possibility that I can leverage my nursing license to 368 00:18:16,808 --> 00:18:19,100 open up my own business. I would have done it a long time 369 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:20,900 ago. I think you get errors, 370 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,200 especially younger, she get caught up, you get caught up 371 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,400 with the income and you don't realize that you need to 372 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,900 leverage the income in order to do bigger things. 373 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,400 Cuz I mean, I was young, I was 12 years old, I had just turned 374 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,400 21, I became a registered so I was just like I was all about 375 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,500 working in the ER, making some money and going on vacation. 376 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:41,100 That's what I really need. You see, it, took me 10 years to 377 00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:43,200 get my bachelor's. The reason why I got my back 378 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,900 because I was getting passed up on opportunities in men because 379 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:49,200 of the fact that you have my bachelor's. 380 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,800 So that's really why I went back and then quickly realized that 381 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,600 when I was working as a, how supervisor in this in the 382 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,400 c-suite as you know, administrator that I'm like, 383 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,000 okay, this is not what I want. I want to open up my own 384 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,600 business. I wanted to still take care of 385 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,500 clients but actually make an impact. 386 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,900 Hmm. How did you change your mindset? 387 00:19:06,900 --> 00:19:09,600 What's something that you did to kind of get yourself out of that 388 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,800 mindset of employee to now business owner? 389 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,300 Because that's sometimes really hard for people to make that 390 00:19:16,300 --> 00:19:21,200 switch from like I'm working for the man to I am the man, how do 391 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,900 you make that? How did you make that switch and 392 00:19:22,908 --> 00:19:25,500 your career? I think everybody's different. 393 00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:29,100 My personal switch was when I realized that I was nothing but 394 00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:32,500 a number in your there. But then when you're not there I 395 00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:35,500 mean you can they'll forget about you in a second 396 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:38,600 personally. In 2018, I had lost my son and I 397 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,000 was same time so when he was sick in the hospital, it was 398 00:19:43,100 --> 00:19:45,900 what are you coming back? Not that I'm doing. 399 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:48,000 Is he okay? It was like, Hey, we're short 400 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,100 and we need you to come back to work and you know, from then I 401 00:19:51,100 --> 00:19:53,200 started thinking about it, I was just like, you know, I'm just 402 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,900 nothing. But if something were to happen 403 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:58,600 to me, I could have they would send my family, a fruit basket. 404 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,400 Then by the time, Basket was delivered. 405 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,900 My job would have been on the newspaper or online in to fill a 406 00:20:05,908 --> 00:20:08,600 spot, right? So I think since then I was 407 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,300 thinking about a way to get away from the bedside or get away 408 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:14,500 from working for the man and solely. 409 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,700 And it's not even, there's nothing wrong with the working 410 00:20:16,700 --> 00:20:19,300 in a hospital system of working for the man, right? 411 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,200 Just like now, I know that when I go to work, isn't it isn't, it 412 00:20:23,208 --> 00:20:26,500 isn't an option because I know that, you know, if I didn't feel 413 00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:28,900 like going to work, if I wanted to be a full-time entrepreneur, 414 00:20:28,900 --> 00:20:32,200 I can just be like, okay, Well, here's my notice and I'm gone, 415 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,500 you know what I mean? I love what I do in the hospital 416 00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:38,300 and that's why I'm there. But I realized during those 417 00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:42,000 trials and tribulations with my family, I realized that I was 418 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,000 nothing but a number and that I needed to find a way to give 419 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,700 myself that option and opportunity to do something 420 00:20:48,700 --> 00:20:52,300 bigger - I'm so sorry for your loss of your son. 421 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,500 That is being a mom like, that is the hardest thing I can ever 422 00:20:56,500 --> 00:20:59,900 imagine going through period and your Y is bigger. 423 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,800 And that I think people need to take home right now is 424 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:06,400 Melissa's. Why for why she is an 425 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,800 entrepreneur, why she hustles like she does is your Y, is 426 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,100 huge, your Y. And again I talked about as well 427 00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:16,500 as how my podcast is, what are your, what are you chasing 428 00:21:16,500 --> 00:21:19,100 after? And you're chasing after and not 429 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:21,700 just the coin that's I mean, whatever. 430 00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:23,500 You can always make more money and that's one thing we learned 431 00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:25,800 is Nurses. You can go make money but the 432 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:30,500 freedom, the security that, you know, trusting in your Skills, 433 00:21:30,500 --> 00:21:34,500 those things like that stuff. That's that's that's the real 434 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:36,900 meat and potatoes of life is being able to go. 435 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,300 I don't, you do this anymore, I'm not happy. 436 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,600 I get to go do something else. And that was what again, that I 437 00:21:42,608 --> 00:21:45,700 talk about on my podcast, at my son was the thing for me to that 438 00:21:45,700 --> 00:21:49,300 made me go, like, wait a minute, like I've been spending all this 439 00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:51,900 time at this place, which is fine. 440 00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:55,300 There's nothing wrong with that job, but you are right, you are 441 00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:58,600 replaceable, and you are irreplaceable in your home. 442 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,100 Your people around. You that you love are 443 00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:04,700 irreplaceable. So yeah, I think that's 444 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,400 incredibly emotional and thank you for sharing that with me 445 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,600 because again it is, it's the truth. 446 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,600 It's really what? We need to be chasing and I want 447 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,100 more nurses to have that same sense of like I go here because 448 00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:20,700 I want to not because I have to and I think needs a y and that's 449 00:22:20,700 --> 00:22:22,700 that's one thing to tell people. If you want to be an 450 00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:23,900 entrepreneur, you have to have a. 451 00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:27,500 Why can't just do it? Because it's a fad, it's cool. 452 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,200 You have to have a, why? Because, you know, It's not easy 453 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,800 when you have to do things on your own. 454 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,400 When you work in a hospital you can clock out right? 455 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,400 No call, no show you lose your job but here in as an 456 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,800 entrepreneur like you it's a struggle. 457 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,100 You have to force yourself every day to come in, whether you have 458 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:47,700 people on the books or you don't have anybody here, you still 459 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:51,100 have to struggle them and make things have been on your own. 460 00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:53,700 There's nobody, that's gonna be like, well, you're supposed to 461 00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:55,900 clock in at 7:00, a.m. where are you? 462 00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:57,500 Nobody's gonna actually use your business. 463 00:22:57,500 --> 00:23:01,100 If I don't show up today, I'm not gonna, I'm not For myself. 464 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,900 You know, I'm not not any but I'm not showing up for myself. 465 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:08,100 If I don't come in today. So I so you have to be able to 466 00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:11,100 be. You have to be able to have a y, 467 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,400 and you also have to be structured enough to show up for 468 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,500 yourself. If you can't show up for anybody 469 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:18,100 else, you need to show up for yourself. 470 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,200 Yeah, yeah, that's incredible. Incredible. 471 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,900 I love that. And I think that's the take-home 472 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:27,500 message is showing up for yourself and have a really big 473 00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:28,700 why? As to why you're doing it 474 00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:32,700 because you won't keep Going and it's the same for working out 475 00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:35,200 eating. Well, all the different things 476 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,300 motherhood parenting. These are all the same Concepts, 477 00:23:39,300 --> 00:23:42,200 they're just, they're all the same theme, they're just that 478 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,900 same work of both are harmed. Both are hard, right? 479 00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:48,300 So choose your hard. What's your hard going to be? 480 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,400 Yeah, working out, hospitals hard. 481 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,400 And whenever you whenever you have, you know, something tragic 482 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,100 happened there, like, when you coming back, that's hard, but I 483 00:23:57,100 --> 00:24:00,200 thought the same thing as hard showing up for your Use your 484 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,900 heart and think that's what I hear you saying, which I love. 485 00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:05,200 I love that. Give me a Shameless plug for 486 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,100 your business for people to find you on. 487 00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:10,200 And if anybody wants to reach out, Say, Hey, I want to know 488 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,800 how you did it. I want to know how you became a 489 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,000 double board certified nurse practitioner. 490 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,400 I want to know how you started your business, give a Shameless 491 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,500 plug for you and your side and your side household. 492 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:22,400 Girl, we do have a Instagram page Missy the IQ which names 493 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,100 don't change sooner rather than later. 494 00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:26,800 It was the MRP Wellness Consulting. 495 00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:29,900 So, what I've decided to do is take all the knowledge that I 496 00:24:29,908 --> 00:24:33,400 have in the business that I have start teaching other nurses, how 497 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,000 to find their wise, help them start their own Wellness Clinic 498 00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:40,000 is coming soon, so you guys can follow me on Instagram. 499 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,300 And my page is at rejuvenate you Wellness click and that. 500 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:46,600 Gotcha. Perfect and guys, check her out. 501 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,700 Thanks for listening to the podcast. 502 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:52,400 As always enjoy the journey of your career and if you have any 503 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,400 questions, reach out to me, reach out to her and we'd love 504 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,400 to just feel them. And yeah, thanks for listening, 505 00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:02,600 Emily. Okay, I love you mama and thanks 506 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,300 for letting me so that's a wrap. 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