Hey guys, this week on the podcast we hear from Tammy
Boswell. She is a board.
Certified neonatal nurse practitioner, which means that
she helps provide care to high-risk newborn.
Infants, who require postnatal care due to low birth weights,
heart abnormalities infections and other complications.
She has over 30 years of nursing experience, and she has done
everything from flight, nursing to, for nursing, but fell in
love with neonatal care. She does a fantastic.
Job sharing her wisdom and knowledge and her mission for
nurses to have this abundance mindset.
So I really hope that that comes across today.
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Welcome, Timmy to the podcast today.
Well, hello had. Thank you for having me.
I love the opportunities, like beds to kind of tell my story
and my journey and nursing to hopefully, encourage others out
there to pursue their dreams in nursing or even a change in
their clinical specialty. We love that and I love what
you're doing, you were doing some cool stuff and you've done
even cooler stuff. Being a flight nurse and just
things that we haven't had on the podcast yet.
So I'm super excited to hear all the things that you've done in
your career and kind of how you let up to the spot that you're
in today, which I believe your kind of part-time low gums or
just getting full autonomy over what you want to do because
you're just, you're so specialized and your sewing need
that you can just be like I'll give you what I can give you.
Which Just incredible spot to be it.
And you worked really hard to get there so I can't wait to
hear about it and I want let's take it from the top.
Okay, sounds good. So, tell me a little bit about
kind of like I was saying, what your current role is kind of
what you're doing for a living, how you divide your time and
your different roles my main role.
Now, obviously is a neonatal nurse practitioner, and I have
been in nursing overall for 30 years, first 10?
Well, yeah, Yeah, 10 of it. I did in the NICU.
As you said, I was a flight team nurse for six years.
I was a NICU bedside nurse for four years or even had a short
step for a little over a year in the picu.
But then decided after my six years and as a flight team
nurse, which is a whole nother realm of nursing very
specialized, which I enjoyed greatly.
I can't, if anyone out there has an interest in it, I suggest
that you talk to someone who's a flight team nurse, Be if there's
an opportunity in your Healthcare organization to
Shadow, someone that would be awesome.
Because my institution, we do a lot of services.
My home base institution, we do ground fixed-wing, Jet and
helicopter transport. So we have four modes of
Transport baby. Not it's just hard tertiary
Center, like bringing babies from outside communities in my
area, to our children's hospital.
But also we do Fort out of the country.
We go and pick up children. Yeah, from out of the country
and bring them to us and even from one state to another that a
hospital organization May hire. So to speak our institution to
move a patient from one organization to another for NICU
specialized treatment. So but after six years of doing
that, I decided that maybe I want to Step away from that.
And I went back to get my masters and become a neonatal
nurse practitioner. That took me three today, three
years, it was three years and felt more like five but actually
started out in an orientation with one child.
And by the time I graduated, I was pregnant with my fourth one.
So that was a journey in it of itself.
Oh my goodness. It was crazy but he was crazy.
Did you have twins in there and who it was?
No. I Oh my gosh, how I were to turn
around him for are very close together.
There was a lot of crying. I'll just leave it at that.
A lot of them. It's whatever.
I said, I can't do this. I'm quitting.
You know, had awesome advisor. My husband was incredibly
supportive and basically said, listen, tomorrow is going to
come whether you're in school or not, so you might as well just
finish it. And side note, we've spent a
bunch of money for you to do this.
So you need to finish so, but he was hot.
This is very encouraging because he had to pick up a lot of slack
home. Then, you know, they're all just
people who want to do that but they're discouraged because they
don't maybe have a significant other who's willing to help them
while they pursue their dreams, maybe, you know, people at their
workplace or not very supportive.
And I want people to know from my message, overall, that there
are people out there that will help you.
Even if they are not in your workplace or in your personal
life, there's somebody there that you're not aware of that.
That will help you pursue your dreams, whether that's just
encouraging you through school or helping you.
If you have children at home that the taking care of while
you pursue your dreams to make your lives better, and still do
what you want as a career aspiration there once I did that
I got out and I worked for a while here my home hospital soon
as I let me stop you real quick, your new needle specific are
specialty. That is a completely separate.
It degree from like appease nurse practitioner or like wait
least, you know? Okay.
So you are only neonatal a DNA or can you do Pete only need a
okay because you have to be certified.
So now it's a four-year, you know, you have to have a BSN
then an MSN, your MSN has to be a specialty in neonatal nurse
practitioner. So does every school offering
that is? How do you think every school
offers? Yeah, great university offers
that. That.
Yeah, interested, you can always contact me.
I'm on Instagram, nursed and NP nerves to and it be.
And I will direct you to where you can go to investigate your
options as universities. But you have to be in a program
that specializes in neonatal nurse practitioner ship.
That is an actual degree. Yes.
Just like in Peds. There's a cute and as well as
Primary Care. Are two separate entries in a
master's program. Nikki was just the one for a
neonatal nurse practitioner. But then, when you graduate from
that accredited program, then you go, you sit for your Ford's,
yes, you do have to take another boards, another certification,
it's through the NCC, the national certification
Corporation, what do you pass that exam?
Then you're off and running? Got you can cut that and so you
set you way back for your masters, Sad for boards, had a
bunch of babies when you're in the school, that's insane.
And then that's exactly right, probably?
That's say eight years. And then I decided, you know
what, this is a really working for me because I had my kids
were still fairly small and I needed more flexibility in my
schedule in life before the pandemic long before everyone
was like, I'm going to do try Well, nursing I was traveling at
an NP, which people don't realize nurse practitioners,
traveling is different than nursing, because so much goes
into being working as a nurse practitioner, regardless of your
specialty, because you have to be go through the Board of
Nursing, the medical board, who have to have a DEA in some
states. You have to have a control
substance certification as well, in some states, you know, And
then you have to whatever organization you're going to
work for if you're traveling there as a Locum.
So that's what they call it when you are a nurse practitioner PA
or position, then you have to go through credentialing at the
hospital, which is basically, I told people, it's basically a
vetting process. So and that generally takes
anywhere from 30 to 90 days depending on how fast that kept
do, that as opposed to our. Yeah, she just has to get your
license in that state and then you go to an And see they
present you. The hospital says, they take You
Bing Bang. Boom, you're working there.
It's not that simple. When you're working as a nurse
practitioner and that is another fighter.
Do they have to clear your your your National provider
identification number there's so many things that go into it when
you're working as a love. So I started dabbling into
working as a low cones and I love the idea of going to
different hospital organizations to see how they practice.
Just did that for, you know, kind of on the side.
So I was full time at my home hospital.
Then I went in my home. Stay then I went part-time and
then I went here in after doing locums for two years because I
said, you know what, I can get as much work as I want or work
as little as I want in. Do my own schedule.
I can make my schedules flexible for me and I know people are
always interested. They're like, how do you real
did? I was like, yeah, I've been
doing this for the better part of eight years now.
Do you think that you've got a lot of options because you are
so specialized in the fact that you can set your own schedule,
if you're super bra, then I feel like maybe there's less options,
but because you were so Niche down, do you think that you've
got more outside? I think I'll tell you.
I'll be honest with you because like, I get people contact me
because they just see nurse practitioner, they don't even
see, neonatal nurse practitioner.
And once you work with an agency and they present, you at various
hospitals across the country that have openings, obviously
with your permission, your name gets flooded out there.
I have companies that I've never even worked for, send me jobs
for things that I don't even have a specialty yet.
Like, Psychiatry interesting. That are like I mean like I am a
neonatal nurse practitioner thank you for the offer so
there's some yeah it's out there and I tell people who are nurse
practitioners regardless of their specialty or those who
want to pursue a degree in a nurse practitioner specialty
that go ahead and do that and then get out there, get your
bearings work for at least two years in one setting.
I did learn as much as you can because then if that is your
goal or something, you may want to dabble or pursue, then try
doing locums because I love, I personally have had a great
experience, not just in my I don't have to ask anyone for PTO
ice, make my own schedule. When I want to work, I work.
When I don't, I definitely know. I know some people were like,
well, what do you do about insurance and whatnot?
You know, I don't work have to worry about that.
I'm very Fortunate, that my husband has excellent insurance,
but there are plans their companies out there who just do,
like, the ones I work for, because most companies that do
just Physicians Pas and nurse practitioners, they don't do
nurses because it's so specialized and getting them
credential. Yeah, through the process.
So much more advanced. It's not a want to say Advanced
more complex than You're saying that getting nurses and using
nurses is more complex than but the dividers Pas and nurse
practitioners into another, it's a big deal for them to get me.
It's harder to. Yeah, it's harder.
Yeah. Like I'm getting credentialed
right now. From getting chicken like
organization and Arizona. And you would believe just this
morning before this phone call, I had to go and do a drug screen
that has led to do that. And that's Little things today.
That's not all the paperwork that has to go through because
they have to present me through credentialing and I just
finished and got all my information back from the
Arizona Board of Nursing so. And so now I'm going through the
medical board. So did some whole it's a whole
process but if you want to go go to the original Point, go with a
staffing company once your practitioner and you're out
worked for two or three years. And they have options where you
can get insurance through them and they have full benefits.
I just don't need that fortune of it, right?
My husband who does have a financial background, so he we
run me working as a locums and at home.
I work p RN and a lot of local hospitals.
We run it like a business. We have.
What do you mean? How do you mean?
If I was full time, they would take out taxes.
I would have benefits. I would contribute to a 401k.
I don't have that anymore because PRN, well, they
obviously take out taxes but like, I don't, I don't work with
the W2. I don't work like that with
locums. So we manage all of my sure.
Enhances like it's a business. So how many hours a week are?
You were? Working.
I mean if you're wrong you're Ren, the Home Hospital.
Like my home, I'm sorry hospital.
So to speak. I'm not working there at all
this week but say Daddy I'm not working.
I haven't worked since last Friday.
I flew home. So I have been off, I will fly
back out on Wednesday and I will go to another state to work
Thursday and Friday, and then I will fly back on Saturday.
So far this work when you had little tiny babies and you were
you flying out, or were you just doing the pr end?
I dropped a part-time. And then I started working
locums, like I would work one day at home and then fly out and
then work two days someplace else and fly back late that
night. Oh wow.
I had to be tough with heads. My goodness, you know we're
about a year and then my husband.
Like yeah, we can do this. We can do this.
In fact, he'll be better if you do this because you know when
you're at X hospital they are you're working around everyone
else. They're telling you your
schedule. No one's telling me I work like
no I if I'm Hospital asked me. Well, hey we need you to work
three days this week. And I was like, well just
depends on the day because it's how you set up the purse.
I do shift work, I don't do contract work.
I've been at a very well-known Hospital organization.
I won't mention the name, obviously, for the better part
of three and a half years. And I basically make my own
schedule. I work at Several of their
Hospital, prior to coming to this organization, three, and a
half years ago constantly calling my stabbing puppy.
You see? Well, is she available?
Can she do this? Is she available and they come
to me my Staffing diet and I said, no, I cannot possibly do
that I can because I'm I'm not going to over because that would
defeat the purpose of why I'm doing this.
I did the hours that I want. I worked the days that I want.
Yeah, we're because you re then see weekend.
So if I work a weekend, it's because I choose to work that
weekend. Now, because I have a weekend
requirement. I still get to do what I love.
That's incredible. I learn so much from different
institutions because I can see like to say This institution,
they did that. This institution, they do.
This is, he's a dude also with it.
Yeah, good outcome. Or, you know, they have a better
outcome than this organization. So it's really a learning
experience almost as much as it's a convenience for many.
It's a benefit for me. And that's what I tell people
all the time on my lives is that nursing is so flexible about
its, you can do anything anything, and you can make it
work for yourself. So when I hear people where they
contact me and they're like, oh I just don't know if I can do
it. You know, I don't know if I can
do this or how would I do that? You will know until you try and
your options are in abundant especially right now and I
definitely wouldn't say go to school.
Come pop right out would not me personally I wouldn't recommend
that but it's definitely an option and I think If you're
someplace where you're getting a lot of experience and truly are
enjoying what you're doing and you feel that you could benefit
from the flexibility, I definitely would encourage
somebody to do it in any specialty.
Once they've gotten at least about two years of experience as
a practitioner. So, Gotcha.
So I was gonna couple things came to mind when you were
talking. One of which was, I was
wondering how you got started in in the NICU and neonatal.
And why are you chose that field?
Because I was thinking like, you know, again everyone gets a
calling and has a dream and they like this is what I meant to do
and it sounds like you've been pretty laser-focused from the
time that you graduated as a nurse in, Treating children and
taking care of kids, and that's been something that you've liked
from the beginning. Which I think is great.
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in my show notes and Get back to the conversation and I think
that a lot of nursing programs, you know, kick out nurses in
there. Like, you have to do med-surg,
it'll give you your, get your feet wet and med-surg, but you
really just kind of laser focused in on.
This is what I really, really like, which I think is really
cool. And can you touch on?
How did you discover that? This is what you want to do?
First off, if not, everyone knows what they want to do,
right? When they get out of school and
that's out of nursing school. And that's okay, that's
completely okay. But for me, I'll be honest when
I was in nursing school. My first thing was, I'm going to
be an adult ICU nurse, that was what I was going to do.
I was going to be a CVS, you nerve work with cardiac
patients. That's what I was going to do
loved it. And when I went through that
rotation, but they don't have my Peds rotation and peace, I
liked, I really liked it, but then we got to go to the NICU.
And we only spent, I think three days in The NICU and I was like,
I love this. This is what I want to do.
I'd love that and I got cuz, you know, go ahead.
Wow, nursing school quite some time ago, nursing 30 years so
you guys can do the math. But all my instructors were
like, well, you'll have to be a med-surg first.
I was like, okay, well when I graduate just before I graduate
and in my home City, I'd come home one weekend.
And my mom had told me that she It heard that there was a
program for nurses who were going to be new grads at my now
hospital. My home Hospital shows say and
so I called them up and they were like, yes, we have a Peds
Residency program and those that are accepted in the program,
they'll rotate through various speeds units.
Such as the general, pediatric floor, Peds rehab, newborn
Nursery, the Pediatric ICU and the nickname.
A NICU in the NICU step down. So there are six areas.
So it's like, ooh, I want to apply and they were like, okay,
so I applied. Yeah, you enough to get in
because that every week, pick me.
You got it in. You know, obviously they have a
limited spots. So I was lucky enough to get
ensure the rotations definitely like some more than others.
Love the nikto. That's so it didn't look
rotations, they tell you that you know the nurse managers will
come that have spots open and offer those who they are
interested in spots. It's you desired, you can take
that spot. So I was like, okay, yeah, the
NICU person like me, please. Let the like me.
Well, I didn't get a call Smart. I didn't get a call from her.
Yeah, I got a call from the picu newborn nursery and one of the
Pete's floors and so I was kind of disappointed.
So I ended up taking the Pediatric ICU job that's where I
was for my first year and a half but That's who you were.
Yeah, I see one day I was actually going to elevator and I
saw the nurse manager and else could I ask for shit?
A score. And so because she had said,
hello. And so I asked her, I was like,
oh, do you know if you have any positions coming open system?
Because I'm really still interested.
If that would be an option for me, and she said, oh actually,
we would love to have you and I would love to have taken you and
it wasn't because they don't like me at all, is because they
had no position. So she was like, if one comes up
we will call you so blue when she called someone had went out
on maternity leave and it was only part time that it was on.
Not cool. So, it's yeah, you take it.
I was like I'll take it so that's how I got into the
vacuum. I got certified in the
peritoneal dialysis or neonates. A are ya?
Learn to put in pick lines. Both president babies have been.
I was in the flight team. My gosh.
You just got in and you just had such a lucrative that's like,
lucrative a very fulfilling and rewarding career.
It's something that you put initially picked for and that
you went back. And we're like, no not us.
This is my calling. I know this is what I meant to
do and so you can Circle back. You didn't let it go.
I loved that scene. You don't know, unless you ask
and if they say, no, you're nowhere.
Yeah, before. And I remember I was this little
fairly new nurse. Well, I was until I was at that
time. I think there may be six months
six or seven months and I asked her, I was like scared.
I was like, here's this nursemaid or drip, this huge
Nikki. What do I say?
I was in the elevator with her have her?
She was like yeah, sure. If something comes up and we'll
just let me just don't have any positions open when you came
through the residency. I think it's neat that if you
would have been like well they didn't want me, I wasn't good
enough. If you were living in that and
that mentality and you would have never had the strength or
the courage to a Ask and then to find out that it wasn't anything
about you. They just have positions and so
it's like, yep, I would have been but like listening to this,
and I just listened drum, or whatever her negative mindset
and it wasn't the true because what did they let you decide?
You don't think that's such a great lesson.
Think that's a really good message to eat for nurses to
hear. Just not to give up one of the
other things. I was thinking about while you
were talking along your path. And, again, one of the things I
like to encourage our students to create Mentor relationships,
finding people that You can learn from I do here that you
often throw yourself out there. Like if you're interested in
this give me a call Reach Out. Has anyone done that for you
throughout your career? Have you had any mentors or are
you really into mentorship because you didn't have time or
something? I'd really had someone when I
was starting out as a nurse practitioner and the enable
nurse practitioner, who was really my biggest advocate well
to people outside of my advice. Zur and my graduate program who
were like you can do this because I had a dart a manager
as an MP, who really wasn't one of my fans.
We'll just leave it at that and this is one of our sister
hospitals was like she reached out to me actually the medical
Ha, his wife reached out to me and said, hey, we have this
position. One of the other hospitals, do
you want it? What an init?
Be position because her husband, she said, he really wants you to
take it. And I said, yes.
So this person who was the in NP coordinator reached out to me.
She was my biggest Advocate, I can't even tell you.
I love her affectionately. Call her up like mother.
She gave me the best hummus. As soon as you and tell people
all the time it is, if you listen to the voices outside
your head, they will become the voices in your head.
You create the voices in your head, So, come on, I like that
line. That is what I Oka is.
I had got in my head, with this other manager said, and it was
hard because I grew as a clinician As I Grew as a person
because I didn't and now I have, I honestly when I see this
individual who wasn't my fans still probably is it, but she's
still at this institution and still a man.
Coordinator of in impedes at our main Children's Hospital.
I honestly want to thank her and I don't mean this being
sarcastically me now, sincerely because her lack of support is
what drove me to where I am today because I have some to be
past hospitals in the country that people come from all over
asking me to come back. To come back medical director,
love where I am today. I have no regrets zero.
Regrets about my past. I mean, I would tell the then,
Tammy that girl, you have no idea what your future is ahead.
They remember Buns of people out there who want you, not just to
fill a position but because they see your word, they see your
work. And that typically is kind of
the last question that I ask is a piece of advice.
You would give back to your younger self, to hold, on to it.
A piece of advice to toss because again, kind of in that
state of okay, wish what do I wish?
I would have known. What do I wish I would have not
listened to. You've kind of answered that
question about. I wish that I would have told my
younger self, like, it's going to be okay.
Like, and I love how you describe it.
Nothing happened on accident. Everything that was meant for
you came. To you throughout your career.
And I wanted my listeners to know that since you do Locum,
right? And you're not kind of at the
mercy of One hospital, how's your pay?
Because I really want a little more pay transparency for nurse
practitioners and that may make people uncomfortable.
So you don't have to say numbers, but it would be nice to
know, like, okay? No, working my schedule.
As a Locum, I'm making more less or the same.
If someone offers me 95 an hour, Our kind of low-balling me and I
determine what the Acuity is of the NICU that I'm working in for
a little Nook. No, I'm not, you're no not,
you're kidding me. That's low-balling me.
That's what that's a little low. That's low-balling you $95, an
hour. Yeah.
Okay. Full transparency.
I make fifty two dollars an hour.
Hmm that's it's a Eureka moment. Double know what I think.
But like an hour that's insane. Let's just say ninety dollars
and that's incredible. Still have to take my taxes out.
Okay, my husband always says and my husband is very much.
My husband is CP of former CPA. He needs a project manager, he
has like very oh wow background, I know nothing else.
Like her husband. Yeah.
If you are getting paid more than what you come on, and
that's hot, just a little bit. Let's just say just $10 more.
What is your time worth? You're not asking anyone for
PTO. Your scheduling yourself.
You're not involved in any of the unit politics you?
Yes, he says, you think of yourself s Li?
I hired hit me. You come in?
You job done. You'll eat your ears.
In you do the job mercenary. That's it, you're not going to
staff me. You're getting your tied back
that your time is valuable team. He says that all the time.
Then people don't think about that.
You knew too many of your quarter, reminding you of these
things. As you pursue things that might
be not the norm or a little more uncomfortable.
I mean, it's not comfortable to travel.
Want people to know if you are considering locums as a nurse
practitioner know, first off? Yes, you're going to be away
from home, and that's something you need to.
It's uncomfortable to go to a new hospital.
Learn a new EMR to be in a new setting, learn new policies.
Always tell people, don't even worry.
So much about the policy. Worry about your clinical
practice because trust me, the nurses are going to tell you.
You're doing it wrong and you'll be easy for you to figure out.
The thing that I remember most is, yes, I'm awake sleeping in
my bed. I still have tons of have as my
travel person at the Staffing. Come because they booked all my
flights. She was like, honey, you can
literally early by every seat on the plane.
And that's not an understatement.
She said, and you would still have points left.
Do you get to pick your hotels units?
Break your heart. Uncle if if there's 1 plus ba.
So if you like Hilton only baby. That's all.
I say. The only one that they know is
Marriott and only because Mario, you still get the point, Mario
ice, you have to present a card as like a Ritz of check in and
they won't. My company doesn't do that.
They paid prepaid Hilton will do that, but if I want to stay at a
Marriott, I can stay out of Mayor out, pay for it.
And then submit Get it and then they give me the money back.
Yeah, they pay for my rent, a car.
The only thing I have two papers, the gas, they even pay
for my toll. This.
What about like food and like what do you know, give you like,
the him, your stipend, and or voucher?
Every day you were like, you know, you get $20, okay. $20 per
day, how many days out there? Do you do like, in a city could
end up being like six days or five and a half days?
Because I got to fly out there the day before.
Then I work, you know, 34 days and if I don't fly back the
travel, it's in the fourth day that night.
If there's not a lie depend on, what time, I must shift is over
I have to fly back first thing that morning, so I keep all that
in mind because again, I don't want to the money is fantastic
and that is the darkness podcast.
It's all about creating the life that you want.
Because so many nurses are burned out and tired and
exhausted. And they think I've got to just
keep sitting at this table eating this food.
There's no other options for me and I'm like, hello know, we're
we have a buffet like go put that plate back.
Go get you another plate like because with theirs.
Too many options, you shouldn't be unhappy.
And if you are, you just need to move yourself because there's
just so many things you can do, and this is again.
Another one, I've had another locums nurse practitioner on,
and she again said, a very similar thing.
I feel like I work for myself and a lot of the things that she
was describing, you know, you've also touched on that.
You've got to be a little more proactive with certain things
that you typically kind of leave on autopilot and you don't
really pay attention to. But I think when you're in
Vested in how you're investing your money when you're invested
in, okay. So how much taxes am I paying
and you start to see these numbers.
It's kind of like it doesn't just come out of your paycheck
in your sleep. You're like, I've had what
attack surface. Okay, we need to get somebody
else in office because this too much run, you know what I'm
saying? Like, it does make running start
to Big Tipper decision on it, like this differently because
you are managing this stuff by yourself, and so it's not a bad
thing, it's not a bad thing. It's the smart thing to do
because you're totally aware of what's going in and out.
You're managing your life more so than just letting it kind of
just happen on its own. So, I actually kind of like,
what you're describing. I didn't have a baby, I would
probably be troubled or seeing right now because it just seems
like such an incredible thing. My husband works from home, too.
So, it's like, you could just pick up and go, we could go
someplace over a week and be someplace new would be traveling
because it's so wonderful that I think for children, they need a
level of stability and I don't want to be away from him any
more than I have to. So that might not be the thing
for new moms or mom's of Littles, but it might be a thing
for moms that are their kids are a little bit older.
So it's like what have that do locums here or there?
And I've been reached out to do locums Urology because there's
just not a lot of Neurology nurse practitioners.
It was hard enough to leave me going to school when when they
were also little because I was gone so much and wow, but I
don't, I don't know if I could do it, I probably could do it a
little bit when they were little.
But how At the extent that I'm doing it now.
Because I wouldn't want to be away from them that much, but
but yeah. So I personally encourage
everyone who is thinking about lunch, practitioner you reach
out to a nurse practitioner and especially that you're
interested in even if you're not quite sure, if that's what you
want to do. Because I am a huge huge
advocate of mentorship because there were so many good ones
that were there. So many good ones out there, and
I had two amazing ones, so I would not be doing them Justice.
Because they reached out to me and they helped me and listen,
I'm getting older every day, we all are.
So I'm not going to be doing this forever.
So I mean wart you didn't pee and I especially trying to get
more nurse practitioners in general of color and whatever,
especially, obviously I have a key interest in neonatal nurse
practitioner and anything for that matter, maternal Health.
But I want more people to consider Are there options?
Don't feel like you're trapped. You never know unless you try
and for goodness, sakes for goodness, sakes.
Do not. Let people guilt you into
burning yourself out on something Thuggin lat, then if
you love it and you get burned out on it, I promise you.
You're not going to like it. I've been doing this for 30
years now and believe me when I say and people always say 30
years. Oh my gosh, please no and say
that. That people who loved it?
It that I work with and burnt himself out and now they're not
even in nursing including me and it'll nurse practitioners and
Piggies you, burn yourself out to the point where you leave
something that you love, and that's how you protect.
I think that you protect yourself from burnout.
I listening to yourself and determining, I'm not happy at
this place because there's a trifecta, right?
Like, there's the right box, the right job at the right time in
your life, right? And so if you are somewhere out
of Relied on that Trifecta. It's not going to work.
Like the job isn't going to be perfect.
You want all of them to be aligned and so it can be the
right job, be verbally, bad boss, kind of like the story,
you were describing before. It was like this woman just
didn't like you and you're like, I don't understand.
And so this other person came in and then you were in the right
job at the right place at the right time.
Boom, you were happy. And so again, if you are okay,
that sounds really cool. That sounds like a really good
job. It's the boss.
How about great, like, but I'm a mom of a little and I can't do
that. So now there's a misalignment
but you know what? I said, you have to be at that.
Right? Is Hobby spot in your life, is
that working for your job or professed?
And that's where people get confused.
And now, I'm a little bit older, a little bit wiser and I know if
it don't work for my life then we can't work together.
And if you keep that perspective in your mind and you learn to
use the word no when appropriate you'll be okay, but a percent.
Yes, you have to, you have to nor work in your profession, has
to work for your life. Focus on your kids.
You know, we can't make every event that your children are in.
Yeah. That somewhat on a special event
that your loved one has. I get it, but you shouldn't feel
that you are missing everything or you're so exhausted.
You can't participate in a outside of work though.
That that's not good. That's really good.
Can we find that work-life balance by listening to your
heart and realizing in knowing that the truth of nursing that
we want to plant today? You know, you have option.
There is an abundance of opportunities.
Do not let yourself be miserable and burnout from a career that
you love. Don't let it happen.
You have to, you have to protect that.
You have to protect your piece. You have to protect what you
love. And if a job is taking you and
making you You not love something that, you know, you
love, then it's time to go. It's time to go do something
else because I love this and I know that I do.
So this must not only in that triangle for my life, right?
- I gotta go, it's not lining up, thank you, thank you,
Auntie. I called Cass, you and sharing
your story. Gee Mom, Dad.
I love you mama. So that's a wrap.
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