1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,200 Hey guys, this week on the podcast we hear from Tammy 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,200 Boswell. She is a board. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,700 Certified neonatal nurse practitioner, which means that 4 00:00:09,700 --> 00:00:12,200 she helps provide care to high-risk newborn. 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,800 Infants, who require postnatal care due to low birth weights, 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,000 heart abnormalities infections and other complications. 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,600 She has over 30 years of nursing experience, and she has done 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,400 everything from flight, nursing to, for nursing, but fell in 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,900 love with neonatal care. She does a fantastic. 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,600 Job sharing her wisdom and knowledge and her mission for 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,400 nurses to have this abundance mindset. 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,600 So I really hope that that comes across today. 13 00:00:39,900 --> 00:00:42,600 I'm at I disappointed with the audio on this episode so I just 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,600 wanted to be up front about it. I worked really hard to correct 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,000 it with a Tools in my toolbox. I just don't know if it's up to 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,900 my normal audio quality. However, I know that I'm also 17 00:00:51,900 --> 00:00:55,300 super critical of just my work and making sure that I'm doing 18 00:00:55,300 --> 00:00:58,500 the best that I can, please forgive me for maybe a couple 19 00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:01,600 areas that are just not. 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Thank you for having me. 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:53,300 I love the opportunities, like beds to kind of tell my story 53 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:57,900 and my journey and nursing to hopefully, encourage others out 54 00:02:57,900 --> 00:03:04,100 there to pursue their dreams in nursing or even a change in 55 00:03:04,100 --> 00:03:08,100 their clinical specialty. We love that and I love what 56 00:03:08,100 --> 00:03:11,400 you're doing, you were doing some cool stuff and you've done 57 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:14,000 even cooler stuff. Being a flight nurse and just 58 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,800 things that we haven't had on the podcast yet. 59 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,600 So I'm super excited to hear all the things that you've done in 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,200 your career and kind of how you let up to the spot that you're 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,300 in today, which I believe your kind of part-time low gums or 62 00:03:26,300 --> 00:03:29,400 just getting full autonomy over what you want to do because 63 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,700 you're just, you're so specialized and your sewing need 64 00:03:32,700 --> 00:03:35,800 that you can just be like I'll give you what I can give you. 65 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,400 Which Just incredible spot to be it. 66 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,200 And you worked really hard to get there so I can't wait to 67 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,200 hear about it and I want let's take it from the top. 68 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,000 Okay, sounds good. So, tell me a little bit about 69 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:50,000 kind of like I was saying, what your current role is kind of 70 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,000 what you're doing for a living, how you divide your time and 71 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,800 your different roles my main role. 72 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,500 Now, obviously is a neonatal nurse practitioner, and I have 73 00:04:00,500 --> 00:04:05,400 been in nursing overall for 30 years, first 10? 74 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,500 Well, yeah, Yeah, 10 of it. I did in the NICU. 75 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:12,700 As you said, I was a flight team nurse for six years. 76 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:16,800 I was a NICU bedside nurse for four years or even had a short 77 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,000 step for a little over a year in the picu. 78 00:04:19,100 --> 00:04:23,500 But then decided after my six years and as a flight team 79 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:27,000 nurse, which is a whole nother realm of nursing very 80 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,500 specialized, which I enjoyed greatly. 81 00:04:29,500 --> 00:04:33,600 I can't, if anyone out there has an interest in it, I suggest 82 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,100 that you talk to someone who's a flight team nurse, Be if there's 83 00:04:37,100 --> 00:04:39,800 an opportunity in your Healthcare organization to 84 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,300 Shadow, someone that would be awesome. 85 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,300 Because my institution, we do a lot of services. 86 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:52,000 My home base institution, we do ground fixed-wing, Jet and 87 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,000 helicopter transport. So we have four modes of 88 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,300 Transport baby. Not it's just hard tertiary 89 00:04:58,300 --> 00:05:02,200 Center, like bringing babies from outside communities in my 90 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,100 area, to our children's hospital. 91 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:08,300 But also we do Fort out of the country. 92 00:05:08,300 --> 00:05:11,300 We go and pick up children. Yeah, from out of the country 93 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,700 and bring them to us and even from one state to another that a 94 00:05:16,700 --> 00:05:21,700 hospital organization May hire. So to speak our institution to 95 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:26,300 move a patient from one organization to another for NICU 96 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:29,800 specialized treatment. So but after six years of doing 97 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:35,000 that, I decided that maybe I want to Step away from that. 98 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,400 And I went back to get my masters and become a neonatal 99 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,800 nurse practitioner. That took me three today, three 100 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,100 years, it was three years and felt more like five but actually 101 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:49,600 started out in an orientation with one child. 102 00:05:49,900 --> 00:05:53,500 And by the time I graduated, I was pregnant with my fourth one. 103 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:55,500 So that was a journey in it of itself. 104 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,300 Oh my goodness. It was crazy but he was crazy. 105 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:01,900 Did you have twins in there and who it was? 106 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,200 No. I Oh my gosh, how I were to turn 107 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,000 around him for are very close together. 108 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,400 There was a lot of crying. I'll just leave it at that. 109 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,500 A lot of them. It's whatever. 110 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:13,900 I said, I can't do this. I'm quitting. 111 00:06:13,900 --> 00:06:17,400 You know, had awesome advisor. My husband was incredibly 112 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,700 supportive and basically said, listen, tomorrow is going to 113 00:06:20,700 --> 00:06:24,100 come whether you're in school or not, so you might as well just 114 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:27,100 finish it. And side note, we've spent a 115 00:06:27,108 --> 00:06:28,400 bunch of money for you to do this. 116 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,500 So you need to finish so, but he was hot. 117 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,600 This is very encouraging because he had to pick up a lot of slack 118 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,500 home. Then, you know, they're all just 119 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:41,200 people who want to do that but they're discouraged because they 120 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:44,900 don't maybe have a significant other who's willing to help them 121 00:06:44,900 --> 00:06:48,200 while they pursue their dreams, maybe, you know, people at their 122 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,000 workplace or not very supportive. 123 00:06:50,300 --> 00:06:53,600 And I want people to know from my message, overall, that there 124 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,100 are people out there that will help you. 125 00:06:55,500 --> 00:06:59,300 Even if they are not in your workplace or in your personal 126 00:06:59,300 --> 00:07:02,600 life, there's somebody there that you're not aware of that. 127 00:07:02,700 --> 00:07:06,200 That will help you pursue your dreams, whether that's just 128 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,500 encouraging you through school or helping you. 129 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:12,600 If you have children at home that the taking care of while 130 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,800 you pursue your dreams to make your lives better, and still do 131 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,800 what you want as a career aspiration there once I did that 132 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,900 I got out and I worked for a while here my home hospital soon 133 00:07:25,900 --> 00:07:29,800 as I let me stop you real quick, your new needle specific are 134 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,600 specialty. That is a completely separate. 135 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,200 It degree from like appease nurse practitioner or like wait 136 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,400 least, you know? Okay. 137 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,700 So you are only neonatal a DNA or can you do Pete only need a 138 00:07:42,700 --> 00:07:45,200 okay because you have to be certified. 139 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,700 So now it's a four-year, you know, you have to have a BSN 140 00:07:49,700 --> 00:07:55,300 then an MSN, your MSN has to be a specialty in neonatal nurse 141 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:58,500 practitioner. So does every school offering 142 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:00,000 that is? How do you think every school 143 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,300 offers? Yeah, great university offers 144 00:08:02,300 --> 00:08:03,000 that. That. 145 00:08:03,700 --> 00:08:06,500 Yeah, interested, you can always contact me. 146 00:08:06,700 --> 00:08:10,300 I'm on Instagram, nursed and NP nerves to and it be. 147 00:08:10,300 --> 00:08:14,700 And I will direct you to where you can go to investigate your 148 00:08:14,700 --> 00:08:19,700 options as universities. But you have to be in a program 149 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:23,800 that specializes in neonatal nurse practitioner ship. 150 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:26,400 That is an actual degree. Yes. 151 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:31,400 Just like in Peds. There's a cute and as well as 152 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,100 Primary Care. Are two separate entries in a 153 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:38,200 master's program. Nikki was just the one for a 154 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,900 neonatal nurse practitioner. But then, when you graduate from 155 00:08:41,900 --> 00:08:45,800 that accredited program, then you go, you sit for your Ford's, 156 00:08:46,300 --> 00:08:49,200 yes, you do have to take another boards, another certification, 157 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,100 it's through the NCC, the national certification 158 00:08:52,100 --> 00:08:55,200 Corporation, what do you pass that exam? 159 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:00,300 Then you're off and running? Got you can cut that and so you 160 00:09:00,300 --> 00:09:04,100 set you way back for your masters, Sad for boards, had a 161 00:09:04,100 --> 00:09:07,500 bunch of babies when you're in the school, that's insane. 162 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:15,400 And then that's exactly right, probably? 163 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,900 That's say eight years. And then I decided, you know 164 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:22,900 what, this is a really working for me because I had my kids 165 00:09:22,900 --> 00:09:26,900 were still fairly small and I needed more flexibility in my 166 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:31,200 schedule in life before the pandemic long before everyone 167 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,100 was like, I'm going to do try Well, nursing I was traveling at 168 00:09:35,100 --> 00:09:38,500 an NP, which people don't realize nurse practitioners, 169 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,300 traveling is different than nursing, because so much goes 170 00:09:43,300 --> 00:09:48,000 into being working as a nurse practitioner, regardless of your 171 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,200 specialty, because you have to be go through the Board of 172 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:57,000 Nursing, the medical board, who have to have a DEA in some 173 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,200 states. You have to have a control 174 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,800 substance certification as well, in some states, you know, And 175 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,500 then you have to whatever organization you're going to 176 00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:08,000 work for if you're traveling there as a Locum. 177 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,300 So that's what they call it when you are a nurse practitioner PA 178 00:10:11,300 --> 00:10:15,000 or position, then you have to go through credentialing at the 179 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,100 hospital, which is basically, I told people, it's basically a 180 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:20,600 vetting process. So and that generally takes 181 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,100 anywhere from 30 to 90 days depending on how fast that kept 182 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:28,500 do, that as opposed to our. Yeah, she just has to get your 183 00:10:28,900 --> 00:10:33,800 license in that state and then you go to an And see they 184 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,000 present you. The hospital says, they take You 185 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,300 Bing Bang. Boom, you're working there. 186 00:10:38,300 --> 00:10:42,500 It's not that simple. When you're working as a nurse 187 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:44,500 practitioner and that is another fighter. 188 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,900 Do they have to clear your your your National provider 189 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:52,800 identification number there's so many things that go into it when 190 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,600 you're working as a love. So I started dabbling into 191 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,600 working as a low cones and I love the idea of going to 192 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,500 different hospital organizations to see how they practice. 193 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,800 Just did that for, you know, kind of on the side. 194 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,600 So I was full time at my home hospital. 195 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,100 Then I went in my home. Stay then I went part-time and 196 00:11:13,100 --> 00:11:17,600 then I went here in after doing locums for two years because I 197 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:22,300 said, you know what, I can get as much work as I want or work 198 00:11:22,300 --> 00:11:26,500 as little as I want in. Do my own schedule. 199 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,300 I can make my schedules flexible for me and I know people are 200 00:11:31,300 --> 00:11:33,500 always interested. They're like, how do you real 201 00:11:33,700 --> 00:11:35,100 did? I was like, yeah, I've been 202 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:40,000 doing this for the better part of eight years now. 203 00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:43,200 Do you think that you've got a lot of options because you are 204 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,500 so specialized in the fact that you can set your own schedule, 205 00:11:46,500 --> 00:11:49,600 if you're super bra, then I feel like maybe there's less options, 206 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,200 but because you were so Niche down, do you think that you've 207 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,500 got more outside? I think I'll tell you. 208 00:11:54,700 --> 00:11:59,700 I'll be honest with you because like, I get people contact me 209 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:02,000 because they just see nurse practitioner, they don't even 210 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,200 see, neonatal nurse practitioner. 211 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:09,300 And once you work with an agency and they present, you at various 212 00:12:09,300 --> 00:12:13,300 hospitals across the country that have openings, obviously 213 00:12:13,300 --> 00:12:16,000 with your permission, your name gets flooded out there. 214 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,500 I have companies that I've never even worked for, send me jobs 215 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,900 for things that I don't even have a specialty yet. 216 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:27,200 Like, Psychiatry interesting. That are like I mean like I am a 217 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,000 neonatal nurse practitioner thank you for the offer so 218 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:36,000 there's some yeah it's out there and I tell people who are nurse 219 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,400 practitioners regardless of their specialty or those who 220 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:44,300 want to pursue a degree in a nurse practitioner specialty 221 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,500 that go ahead and do that and then get out there, get your 222 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:54,400 bearings work for at least two years in one setting. 223 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,600 I did learn as much as you can because then if that is your 224 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,100 goal or something, you may want to dabble or pursue, then try 225 00:13:03,100 --> 00:13:08,100 doing locums because I love, I personally have had a great 226 00:13:08,100 --> 00:13:12,300 experience, not just in my I don't have to ask anyone for PTO 227 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,800 ice, make my own schedule. When I want to work, I work. 228 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,600 When I don't, I definitely know. I know some people were like, 229 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,900 well, what do you do about insurance and whatnot? 230 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,800 You know, I don't work have to worry about that. 231 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,700 I'm very Fortunate, that my husband has excellent insurance, 232 00:13:27,700 --> 00:13:32,700 but there are plans their companies out there who just do, 233 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:37,500 like, the ones I work for, because most companies that do 234 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:42,200 just Physicians Pas and nurse practitioners, they don't do 235 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,400 nurses because it's so specialized and getting them 236 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,300 credential. Yeah, through the process. 237 00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:50,800 So much more advanced. It's not a want to say Advanced 238 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:56,700 more complex than You're saying that getting nurses and using 239 00:13:56,700 --> 00:14:00,500 nurses is more complex than but the dividers Pas and nurse 240 00:14:00,500 --> 00:14:06,300 practitioners into another, it's a big deal for them to get me. 241 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:08,000 It's harder to. Yeah, it's harder. 242 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,300 Yeah. Like I'm getting credentialed 243 00:14:11,300 --> 00:14:12,800 right now. From getting chicken like 244 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,400 organization and Arizona. And you would believe just this 245 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:21,900 morning before this phone call, I had to go and do a drug screen 246 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:26,400 that has led to do that. And that's Little things today. 247 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,100 That's not all the paperwork that has to go through because 248 00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:31,400 they have to present me through credentialing and I just 249 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,700 finished and got all my information back from the 250 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:39,700 Arizona Board of Nursing so. And so now I'm going through the 251 00:14:39,700 --> 00:14:42,300 medical board. So did some whole it's a whole 252 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:48,400 process but if you want to go go to the original Point, go with a 253 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:52,200 staffing company once your practitioner and you're out 254 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,500 worked for two or three years. And they have options where you 255 00:14:56,500 --> 00:15:00,300 can get insurance through them and they have full benefits. 256 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,000 I just don't need that fortune of it, right? 257 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:09,000 My husband who does have a financial background, so he we 258 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,800 run me working as a locums and at home. 259 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,000 I work p RN and a lot of local hospitals. 260 00:15:16,300 --> 00:15:21,100 We run it like a business. We have. 261 00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:22,500 What do you mean? How do you mean? 262 00:15:22,900 --> 00:15:26,300 If I was full time, they would take out taxes. 263 00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:29,500 I would have benefits. I would contribute to a 401k. 264 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,500 I don't have that anymore because PRN, well, they 265 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:38,200 obviously take out taxes but like, I don't, I don't work with 266 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,300 the W2. I don't work like that with 267 00:15:41,300 --> 00:15:45,300 locums. So we manage all of my sure. 268 00:15:45,300 --> 00:15:48,600 Enhances like it's a business. So how many hours a week are? 269 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:49,600 You were? Working. 270 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,900 I mean if you're wrong you're Ren, the Home Hospital. 271 00:15:52,900 --> 00:15:54,900 Like my home, I'm sorry hospital. 272 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:57,100 So to speak. I'm not working there at all 273 00:15:57,100 --> 00:16:01,600 this week but say Daddy I'm not working. 274 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,500 I haven't worked since last Friday. 275 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:08,400 I flew home. So I have been off, I will fly 276 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:13,900 back out on Wednesday and I will go to another state to work 277 00:16:14,300 --> 00:16:18,000 Thursday and Friday, and then I will fly back on Saturday. 278 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:25,000 So far this work when you had little tiny babies and you were 279 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,700 you flying out, or were you just doing the pr end? 280 00:16:27,700 --> 00:16:30,800 I dropped a part-time. And then I started working 281 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:37,200 locums, like I would work one day at home and then fly out and 282 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,100 then work two days someplace else and fly back late that 283 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:42,300 night. Oh wow. 284 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:46,100 I had to be tough with heads. My goodness, you know we're 285 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:48,400 about a year and then my husband. 286 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:50,800 Like yeah, we can do this. We can do this. 287 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,400 In fact, he'll be better if you do this because you know when 288 00:16:55,400 --> 00:17:00,300 you're at X hospital they are you're working around everyone 289 00:17:00,300 --> 00:17:01,600 else. They're telling you your 290 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,900 schedule. No one's telling me I work like 291 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:08,599 no I if I'm Hospital asked me. Well, hey we need you to work 292 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:11,599 three days this week. And I was like, well just 293 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:15,000 depends on the day because it's how you set up the purse. 294 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,099 I do shift work, I don't do contract work. 295 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:22,200 I've been at a very well-known Hospital organization. 296 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,000 I won't mention the name, obviously, for the better part 297 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,400 of three and a half years. And I basically make my own 298 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,400 schedule. I work at Several of their 299 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,200 Hospital, prior to coming to this organization, three, and a 300 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,000 half years ago constantly calling my stabbing puppy. 301 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,200 You see? Well, is she available? 302 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,000 Can she do this? Is she available and they come 303 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,000 to me my Staffing diet and I said, no, I cannot possibly do 304 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,500 that I can because I'm I'm not going to over because that would 305 00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:51,900 defeat the purpose of why I'm doing this. 306 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,500 I did the hours that I want. I worked the days that I want. 307 00:17:55,500 --> 00:17:57,800 Yeah, we're because you re then see weekend. 308 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,500 So if I work a weekend, it's because I choose to work that 309 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:03,000 weekend. Now, because I have a weekend 310 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,100 requirement. I still get to do what I love. 311 00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:09,600 That's incredible. I learn so much from different 312 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:17,300 institutions because I can see like to say This institution, 313 00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:19,300 they did that. This institution, they do. 314 00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:21,300 This is, he's a dude also with it. 315 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:24,100 Yeah, good outcome. Or, you know, they have a better 316 00:18:24,100 --> 00:18:27,800 outcome than this organization. So it's really a learning 317 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,000 experience almost as much as it's a convenience for many. 318 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,500 It's a benefit for me. And that's what I tell people 319 00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:38,900 all the time on my lives is that nursing is so flexible about 320 00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:44,100 its, you can do anything anything, and you can make it 321 00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:47,700 work for yourself. So when I hear people where they 322 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:51,300 contact me and they're like, oh I just don't know if I can do 323 00:18:51,300 --> 00:18:54,400 it. You know, I don't know if I can 324 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:59,300 do this or how would I do that? You will know until you try and 325 00:18:59,300 --> 00:19:05,000 your options are in abundant especially right now and I 326 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,000 definitely wouldn't say go to school. 327 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:12,100 Come pop right out would not me personally I wouldn't recommend 328 00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:16,200 that but it's definitely an option and I think If you're 329 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:20,000 someplace where you're getting a lot of experience and truly are 330 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,000 enjoying what you're doing and you feel that you could benefit 331 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,300 from the flexibility, I definitely would encourage 332 00:19:26,300 --> 00:19:28,600 somebody to do it in any specialty. 333 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,300 Once they've gotten at least about two years of experience as 334 00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:37,100 a practitioner. So, Gotcha. 335 00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:41,300 So I was gonna couple things came to mind when you were 336 00:19:41,300 --> 00:19:44,500 talking. One of which was, I was 337 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:50,600 wondering how you got started in in the NICU and neonatal. 338 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,400 And why are you chose that field? 339 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,800 Because I was thinking like, you know, again everyone gets a 340 00:19:56,808 --> 00:20:00,500 calling and has a dream and they like this is what I meant to do 341 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:03,300 and it sounds like you've been pretty laser-focused from the 342 00:20:03,300 --> 00:20:07,900 time that you graduated as a nurse in, Treating children and 343 00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:10,500 taking care of kids, and that's been something that you've liked 344 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:12,200 from the beginning. 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Like, you have to do med-surg, 374 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,500 it'll give you your, get your feet wet and med-surg, but you 375 00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:48,500 really just kind of laser focused in on. 376 00:21:48,500 --> 00:21:51,900 This is what I really, really like, which I think is really 377 00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:53,300 cool. And can you touch on? 378 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,600 How did you discover that? This is what you want to do? 379 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,400 First off, if not, everyone knows what they want to do, 380 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,800 right? When they get out of school and 381 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,500 that's out of nursing school. And that's okay, that's 382 00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:07,800 completely okay. But for me, I'll be honest when 383 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,200 I was in nursing school. My first thing was, I'm going to 384 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,700 be an adult ICU nurse, that was what I was going to do. 385 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,800 I was going to be a CVS, you nerve work with cardiac 386 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,500 patients. That's what I was going to do 387 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:24,600 loved it. And when I went through that 388 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:29,800 rotation, but they don't have my Peds rotation and peace, I 389 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:33,400 liked, I really liked it, but then we got to go to the NICU. 390 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:38,600 And we only spent, I think three days in The NICU and I was like, 391 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,600 I love this. This is what I want to do. 392 00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:45,600 I'd love that and I got cuz, you know, go ahead. 393 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:50,200 Wow, nursing school quite some time ago, nursing 30 years so 394 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,000 you guys can do the math. But all my instructors were 395 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,100 like, well, you'll have to be a med-surg first. 396 00:22:55,100 --> 00:23:00,200 I was like, okay, well when I graduate just before I graduate 397 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,500 and in my home City, I'd come home one weekend. 398 00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:07,700 And my mom had told me that she It heard that there was a 399 00:23:07,708 --> 00:23:13,100 program for nurses who were going to be new grads at my now 400 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:16,600 hospital. My home Hospital shows say and 401 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,900 so I called them up and they were like, yes, we have a Peds 402 00:23:19,900 --> 00:23:23,500 Residency program and those that are accepted in the program, 403 00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:26,700 they'll rotate through various speeds units. 404 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:30,600 Such as the general, pediatric floor, Peds rehab, newborn 405 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,700 Nursery, the Pediatric ICU and the nickname. 406 00:23:33,700 --> 00:23:37,200 A NICU in the NICU step down. So there are six areas. 407 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,400 So it's like, ooh, I want to apply and they were like, okay, 408 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,100 so I applied. Yeah, you enough to get in 409 00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:44,800 because that every week, pick me. 410 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,900 You got it in. You know, obviously they have a 411 00:23:46,900 --> 00:23:49,400 limited spots. So I was lucky enough to get 412 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:54,100 ensure the rotations definitely like some more than others. 413 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,400 Love the nikto. That's so it didn't look 414 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,300 rotations, they tell you that you know the nurse managers will 415 00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:04,600 come that have spots open and offer those who they are 416 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:09,100 interested in spots. It's you desired, you can take 417 00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:12,000 that spot. So I was like, okay, yeah, the 418 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,900 NICU person like me, please. Let the like me. 419 00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:19,700 Well, I didn't get a call Smart. I didn't get a call from her. 420 00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:24,700 Yeah, I got a call from the picu newborn nursery and one of the 421 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:29,300 Pete's floors and so I was kind of disappointed. 422 00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:32,800 So I ended up taking the Pediatric ICU job that's where I 423 00:24:32,808 --> 00:24:37,900 was for my first year and a half but That's who you were. 424 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:41,600 Yeah, I see one day I was actually going to elevator and I 425 00:24:41,608 --> 00:24:44,000 saw the nurse manager and else could I ask for shit? 426 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,500 A score. And so because she had said, 427 00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:48,300 hello. And so I asked her, I was like, 428 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,400 oh, do you know if you have any positions coming open system? 429 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,100 Because I'm really still interested. 430 00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:58,300 If that would be an option for me, and she said, oh actually, 431 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,500 we would love to have you and I would love to have taken you and 432 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:04,700 it wasn't because they don't like me at all, is because they 433 00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:09,700 had no position. So she was like, if one comes up 434 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:15,900 we will call you so blue when she called someone had went out 435 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:21,000 on maternity leave and it was only part time that it was on. 436 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,300 Not cool. So, it's yeah, you take it. 437 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:26,600 I was like I'll take it so that's how I got into the 438 00:25:26,608 --> 00:25:29,900 vacuum. I got certified in the 439 00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:35,300 peritoneal dialysis or neonates. A are ya? 440 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,500 Learn to put in pick lines. Both president babies have been. 441 00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:41,600 I was in the flight team. My gosh. 442 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,400 You just got in and you just had such a lucrative that's like, 443 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,400 lucrative a very fulfilling and rewarding career. 444 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,000 It's something that you put initially picked for and that 445 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,700 you went back. And we're like, no not us. 446 00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:57,900 This is my calling. I know this is what I meant to 447 00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:00,600 do and so you can Circle back. You didn't let it go. 448 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,800 I loved that scene. You don't know, unless you ask 449 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,900 and if they say, no, you're nowhere. 450 00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:09,200 Yeah, before. And I remember I was this little 451 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,500 fairly new nurse. Well, I was until I was at that 452 00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:14,700 time. I think there may be six months 453 00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:18,500 six or seven months and I asked her, I was like scared. 454 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:20,900 I was like, here's this nursemaid or drip, this huge 455 00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:22,300 Nikki. What do I say? 456 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,300 I was in the elevator with her have her? 457 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,700 She was like yeah, sure. If something comes up and we'll 458 00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:30,900 just let me just don't have any positions open when you came 459 00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:33,300 through the residency. I think it's neat that if you 460 00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:35,500 would have been like well they didn't want me, I wasn't good 461 00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:37,400 enough. If you were living in that and 462 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,000 that mentality and you would have never had the strength or 463 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,300 the courage to a Ask and then to find out that it wasn't anything 464 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:47,200 about you. They just have positions and so 465 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,200 it's like, yep, I would have been but like listening to this, 466 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,400 and I just listened drum, or whatever her negative mindset 467 00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:55,500 and it wasn't the true because what did they let you decide? 468 00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:57,100 You don't think that's such a great lesson. 469 00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:00,400 Think that's a really good message to eat for nurses to 470 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,500 hear. Just not to give up one of the 471 00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:04,200 other things. I was thinking about while you 472 00:27:04,208 --> 00:27:07,400 were talking along your path. And, again, one of the things I 473 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,500 like to encourage our students to create Mentor relationships, 474 00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:16,700 finding people that You can learn from I do here that you 475 00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:19,100 often throw yourself out there. Like if you're interested in 476 00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:22,700 this give me a call Reach Out. Has anyone done that for you 477 00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:25,400 throughout your career? Have you had any mentors or are 478 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,700 you really into mentorship because you didn't have time or 479 00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:31,700 something? I'd really had someone when I 480 00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:35,000 was starting out as a nurse practitioner and the enable 481 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:40,000 nurse practitioner, who was really my biggest advocate well 482 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:46,000 to people outside of my advice. Zur and my graduate program who 483 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:53,000 were like you can do this because I had a dart a manager 484 00:27:54,200 --> 00:28:00,700 as an MP, who really wasn't one of my fans. 485 00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:06,800 We'll just leave it at that and this is one of our sister 486 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:12,900 hospitals was like she reached out to me actually the medical 487 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,100 Ha, his wife reached out to me and said, hey, we have this 488 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:19,900 position. One of the other hospitals, do 489 00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:21,300 you want it? What an init? 490 00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:26,100 Be position because her husband, she said, he really wants you to 491 00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:28,600 take it. And I said, yes. 492 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,600 So this person who was the in NP coordinator reached out to me. 493 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,700 She was my biggest Advocate, I can't even tell you. 494 00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:40,000 I love her affectionately. Call her up like mother. 495 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,500 She gave me the best hummus. As soon as you and tell people 496 00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:50,200 all the time it is, if you listen to the voices outside 497 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,000 your head, they will become the voices in your head. 498 00:28:53,700 --> 00:29:00,900 You create the voices in your head, So, come on, I like that 499 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:02,800 line. That is what I Oka is. 500 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,200 I had got in my head, with this other manager said, and it was 501 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,300 hard because I grew as a clinician As I Grew as a person 502 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:18,200 because I didn't and now I have, I honestly when I see this 503 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,500 individual who wasn't my fans still probably is it, but she's 504 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:25,900 still at this institution and still a man. 505 00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:29,700 Coordinator of in impedes at our main Children's Hospital. 506 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,300 I honestly want to thank her and I don't mean this being 507 00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:41,100 sarcastically me now, sincerely because her lack of support is 508 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:47,000 what drove me to where I am today because I have some to be 509 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:52,300 past hospitals in the country that people come from all over 510 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:58,600 asking me to come back. To come back medical director, 511 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,500 love where I am today. I have no regrets zero. 512 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,600 Regrets about my past. I mean, I would tell the then, 513 00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:13,600 Tammy that girl, you have no idea what your future is ahead. 514 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,900 They remember Buns of people out there who want you, not just to 515 00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:24,300 fill a position but because they see your word, they see your 516 00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:28,700 work. And that typically is kind of 517 00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:30,700 the last question that I ask is a piece of advice. 518 00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:33,800 You would give back to your younger self, to hold, on to it. 519 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,400 A piece of advice to toss because again, kind of in that 520 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,000 state of okay, wish what do I wish? 521 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000 I would have known. What do I wish I would have not 522 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,700 listened to. You've kind of answered that 523 00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:46,300 question about. I wish that I would have told my 524 00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:49,000 younger self, like, it's going to be okay. 525 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,800 Like, and I love how you describe it. 526 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,100 Nothing happened on accident. Everything that was meant for 527 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:56,800 you came. To you throughout your career. 528 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,300 And I wanted my listeners to know that since you do Locum, 529 00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:02,200 right? And you're not kind of at the 530 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,600 mercy of One hospital, how's your pay? 531 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:09,200 Because I really want a little more pay transparency for nurse 532 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,400 practitioners and that may make people uncomfortable. 533 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,100 So you don't have to say numbers, but it would be nice to 534 00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:17,400 know, like, okay? No, working my schedule. 535 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,600 As a Locum, I'm making more less or the same. 536 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:27,000 If someone offers me 95 an hour, Our kind of low-balling me and I 537 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:33,600 determine what the Acuity is of the NICU that I'm working in for 538 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,400 a little Nook. No, I'm not, you're no not, 539 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,500 you're kidding me. That's low-balling me. 540 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,900 That's what that's a little low. That's low-balling you $95, an 541 00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:46,600 hour. Yeah. 542 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,000 Okay. Full transparency. 543 00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:49,900 I make fifty two dollars an hour. 544 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,100 Hmm that's it's a Eureka moment. Double know what I think. 545 00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:59,400 But like an hour that's insane. Let's just say ninety dollars 546 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,300 and that's incredible. Still have to take my taxes out. 547 00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:06,000 Okay, my husband always says and my husband is very much. 548 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,600 My husband is CP of former CPA. He needs a project manager, he 549 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,900 has like very oh wow background, I know nothing else. 550 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,100 Like her husband. Yeah. 551 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:20,800 If you are getting paid more than what you come on, and 552 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,800 that's hot, just a little bit. Let's just say just $10 more. 553 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,800 What is your time worth? You're not asking anyone for 554 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,500 PTO. Your scheduling yourself. 555 00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:36,300 You're not involved in any of the unit politics you? 556 00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:39,800 Yes, he says, you think of yourself s Li? 557 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,700 I hired hit me. You come in? 558 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,000 You job done. You'll eat your ears. 559 00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:50,000 In you do the job mercenary. That's it, you're not going to 560 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,800 staff me. You're getting your tied back 561 00:32:56,100 --> 00:33:00,000 that your time is valuable team. He says that all the time. 562 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,400 Then people don't think about that. 563 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,600 You knew too many of your quarter, reminding you of these 564 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,400 things. As you pursue things that might 565 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,200 be not the norm or a little more uncomfortable. 566 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,800 I mean, it's not comfortable to travel. 567 00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:14,900 Want people to know if you are considering locums as a nurse 568 00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:18,000 practitioner know, first off? Yes, you're going to be away 569 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,400 from home, and that's something you need to. 570 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,700 It's uncomfortable to go to a new hospital. 571 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:30,300 Learn a new EMR to be in a new setting, learn new policies. 572 00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:31,800 Always tell people, don't even worry. 573 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,900 So much about the policy. Worry about your clinical 574 00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:36,500 practice because trust me, the nurses are going to tell you. 575 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,800 You're doing it wrong and you'll be easy for you to figure out. 576 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,800 The thing that I remember most is, yes, I'm awake sleeping in 577 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,700 my bed. I still have tons of have as my 578 00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:51,000 travel person at the Staffing. Come because they booked all my 579 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,300 flights. She was like, honey, you can 580 00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:55,700 literally early by every seat on the plane. 581 00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:57,500 And that's not an understatement. 582 00:33:57,500 --> 00:33:59,800 She said, and you would still have points left. 583 00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:02,900 Do you get to pick your hotels units? 584 00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:05,800 Break your heart. Uncle if if there's 1 plus ba. 585 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,500 So if you like Hilton only baby. That's all. 586 00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:11,500 I say. The only one that they know is 587 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,400 Marriott and only because Mario, you still get the point, Mario 588 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,400 ice, you have to present a card as like a Ritz of check in and 589 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,500 they won't. My company doesn't do that. 590 00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:27,000 They paid prepaid Hilton will do that, but if I want to stay at a 591 00:34:27,007 --> 00:34:29,300 Marriott, I can stay out of Mayor out, pay for it. 592 00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:31,900 And then submit Get it and then they give me the money back. 593 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,900 Yeah, they pay for my rent, a car. 594 00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:41,300 The only thing I have two papers, the gas, they even pay 595 00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:42,400 for my toll. This. 596 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,300 What about like food and like what do you know, give you like, 597 00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:47,199 the him, your stipend, and or voucher? 598 00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:53,600 Every day you were like, you know, you get $20, okay. $20 per 599 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,200 day, how many days out there? Do you do like, in a city could 600 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,800 end up being like six days or five and a half days? 601 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,100 Because I got to fly out there the day before. 602 00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:10,600 Then I work, you know, 34 days and if I don't fly back the 603 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,900 travel, it's in the fourth day that night. 604 00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:17,700 If there's not a lie depend on, what time, I must shift is over 605 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,900 I have to fly back first thing that morning, so I keep all that 606 00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:26,500 in mind because again, I don't want to the money is fantastic 607 00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:28,300 and that is the darkness podcast. 608 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:31,300 It's all about creating the life that you want. 609 00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:35,000 Because so many nurses are burned out and tired and 610 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,600 exhausted. And they think I've got to just 611 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,600 keep sitting at this table eating this food. 612 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,100 There's no other options for me and I'm like, hello know, we're 613 00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:46,000 we have a buffet like go put that plate back. 614 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,900 Go get you another plate like because with theirs. 615 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,800 Too many options, you shouldn't be unhappy. 616 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,900 And if you are, you just need to move yourself because there's 617 00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:57,800 just so many things you can do, and this is again. 618 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,100 Another one, I've had another locums nurse practitioner on, 619 00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,200 and she again said, a very similar thing. 620 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,900 I feel like I work for myself and a lot of the things that she 621 00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:10,200 was describing, you know, you've also touched on that. 622 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,800 You've got to be a little more proactive with certain things 623 00:36:12,808 --> 00:36:15,600 that you typically kind of leave on autopilot and you don't 624 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,900 really pay attention to. But I think when you're in 625 00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:21,300 Vested in how you're investing your money when you're invested 626 00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:24,000 in, okay. So how much taxes am I paying 627 00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:25,800 and you start to see these numbers. 628 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,900 It's kind of like it doesn't just come out of your paycheck 629 00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:29,800 in your sleep. You're like, I've had what 630 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,900 attack surface. Okay, we need to get somebody 631 00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:34,300 else in office because this too much run, you know what I'm 632 00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:36,100 saying? Like, it does make running start 633 00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:38,700 to Big Tipper decision on it, like this differently because 634 00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:42,300 you are managing this stuff by yourself, and so it's not a bad 635 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:47,000 thing, it's not a bad thing. It's the smart thing to do 636 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,400 because you're totally aware of what's going in and out. 637 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,400 You're managing your life more so than just letting it kind of 638 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,700 just happen on its own. So, I actually kind of like, 639 00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:57,100 what you're describing. I didn't have a baby, I would 640 00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:59,700 probably be troubled or seeing right now because it just seems 641 00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:02,700 like such an incredible thing. My husband works from home, too. 642 00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:05,100 So, it's like, you could just pick up and go, we could go 643 00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:08,300 someplace over a week and be someplace new would be traveling 644 00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:11,900 because it's so wonderful that I think for children, they need a 645 00:37:11,908 --> 00:37:14,700 level of stability and I don't want to be away from him any 646 00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:17,300 more than I have to. So that might not be the thing 647 00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:20,400 for new moms or mom's of Littles, but it might be a thing 648 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,300 for moms that are their kids are a little bit older. 649 00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:26,400 So it's like what have that do locums here or there? 650 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,200 And I've been reached out to do locums Urology because there's 651 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,900 just not a lot of Neurology nurse practitioners. 652 00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:34,600 It was hard enough to leave me going to school when when they 653 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,900 were also little because I was gone so much and wow, but I 654 00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:42,700 don't, I don't know if I could do it, I probably could do it a 655 00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:44,600 little bit when they were little. 656 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,300 But how At the extent that I'm doing it now. 657 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,100 Because I wouldn't want to be away from them that much, but 658 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,300 but yeah. So I personally encourage 659 00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:58,200 everyone who is thinking about lunch, practitioner you reach 660 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,600 out to a nurse practitioner and especially that you're 661 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,100 interested in even if you're not quite sure, if that's what you 662 00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:06,400 want to do. Because I am a huge huge 663 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,300 advocate of mentorship because there were so many good ones 664 00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:12,800 that were there. So many good ones out there, and 665 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,600 I had two amazing ones, so I would not be doing them Justice. 666 00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:22,200 Because they reached out to me and they helped me and listen, 667 00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:25,300 I'm getting older every day, we all are. 668 00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:27,500 So I'm not going to be doing this forever. 669 00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:33,500 So I mean wart you didn't pee and I especially trying to get 670 00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:37,800 more nurse practitioners in general of color and whatever, 671 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,000 especially, obviously I have a key interest in neonatal nurse 672 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,400 practitioner and anything for that matter, maternal Health. 673 00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:48,600 But I want more people to consider Are there options? 674 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,400 Don't feel like you're trapped. You never know unless you try 675 00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,200 and for goodness, sakes for goodness, sakes. 676 00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:59,000 Do not. Let people guilt you into 677 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,100 burning yourself out on something Thuggin lat, then if 678 00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:06,600 you love it and you get burned out on it, I promise you. 679 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,600 You're not going to like it. I've been doing this for 30 680 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,000 years now and believe me when I say and people always say 30 681 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000 years. Oh my gosh, please no and say 682 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,500 that. That people who loved it? 683 00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:21,000 It that I work with and burnt himself out and now they're not 684 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,300 even in nursing including me and it'll nurse practitioners and 685 00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:27,500 Piggies you, burn yourself out to the point where you leave 686 00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:29,900 something that you love, and that's how you protect. 687 00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:33,700 I think that you protect yourself from burnout. 688 00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:38,400 I listening to yourself and determining, I'm not happy at 689 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,600 this place because there's a trifecta, right? 690 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,600 Like, there's the right box, the right job at the right time in 691 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,600 your life, right? And so if you are somewhere out 692 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,000 of Relied on that Trifecta. It's not going to work. 693 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,600 Like the job isn't going to be perfect. 694 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,100 You want all of them to be aligned and so it can be the 695 00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:58,400 right job, be verbally, bad boss, kind of like the story, 696 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,300 you were describing before. It was like this woman just 697 00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:02,400 didn't like you and you're like, I don't understand. 698 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,300 And so this other person came in and then you were in the right 699 00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:06,000 job at the right place at the right time. 700 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,800 Boom, you were happy. And so again, if you are okay, 701 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,500 that sounds really cool. That sounds like a really good 702 00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:14,400 job. It's the boss. 703 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,200 How about great, like, but I'm a mom of a little and I can't do 704 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,000 that. So now there's a misalignment 705 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,200 but you know what? I said, you have to be at that. 706 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,300 Right? Is Hobby spot in your life, is 707 00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:25,700 that working for your job or professed? 708 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,600 And that's where people get confused. 709 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,000 And now, I'm a little bit older, a little bit wiser and I know if 710 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:38,000 it don't work for my life then we can't work together. 711 00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:45,500 And if you keep that perspective in your mind and you learn to 712 00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:52,000 use the word no when appropriate you'll be okay, but a percent. 713 00:40:54,000 --> 00:41:00,000 Yes, you have to, you have to nor work in your profession, has 714 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,000 to work for your life. Focus on your kids. 715 00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:06,300 You know, we can't make every event that your children are in. 716 00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:08,700 Yeah. That somewhat on a special event 717 00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:12,400 that your loved one has. I get it, but you shouldn't feel 718 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,100 that you are missing everything or you're so exhausted. 719 00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:20,400 You can't participate in a outside of work though. 720 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,300 That that's not good. That's really good. 721 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,500 Can we find that work-life balance by listening to your 722 00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:30,900 heart and realizing in knowing that the truth of nursing that 723 00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:34,600 we want to plant today? You know, you have option. 724 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,700 There is an abundance of opportunities. 725 00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:42,300 Do not let yourself be miserable and burnout from a career that 726 00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:44,300 you love. Don't let it happen. 727 00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:47,200 You have to, you have to protect that. 728 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,400 You have to protect your piece. You have to protect what you 729 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,100 love. And if a job is taking you and 730 00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:55,600 making you You not love something that, you know, you 731 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,200 love, then it's time to go. It's time to go do something 732 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,700 else because I love this and I know that I do. 733 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,300 So this must not only in that triangle for my life, right? 734 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,300 - I gotta go, it's not lining up, thank you, thank you, 735 00:42:08,300 --> 00:42:10,200 Auntie. I called Cass, you and sharing 736 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:17,800 your story. Gee Mom, Dad. 737 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,200 I love you mama. So that's a wrap. 738 00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:25,800 Be sure to subscribe to the show so you don't miss an episode and 739 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,200 leave me a review. If you like the show, I would 740 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,400 love to get 5 stars. The doctors podcast is all in 741 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,100 the world, wide web, YouTube Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, 742 00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:39,600 patreon, and Tick-Tock subscribe to my newsletter for updates on 743 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,300 new podcast episodes and other information to help you on your 744 00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:45,700 own nursing Journey. 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